I have answers for jellicent as well
#Draft
lofty wigeon
lofty wigeon
I won it no need anymore
lofty wigeon
next match up in ubers, playing against one of the last 2 undefeated s
misty plumeBOT
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rancid kestrel
next match up in ubers, playing against one of the last 2 undefeated s
- Am I missing something or do they have a Tera Baxc with no way to set snow? I guess you want a dragon, but like, you have Zekrom? I must be missing something, maybe they just like Baxc and are relying on Tera to get it a DD or Scale Shot Band or something.
- 123 to 101 is rough, wow. And to think they have five Pokemon between 80 and 90 (inclusive)? I dunno. I get that Cutiefly's just for Webs threat (unironically somewhat worrying for you), but like, you couldn't find anything at 110 or 120? Talonflame's not super real when it comes to speed stuff too, so like, Zama-C Meow Lando as the topline is rough.
- Single removal in Defog is wild, a lot of setters though none of them are great. Seems like their goal is like, boots+hazard spam with relying on Pech to prevent removal? At least Exca threatens Pech, and if you can nab a +2 (if it isnt Balloon Pech) in sand then suddenly you've got like a 93% chance to KO? Beware Shuca.
- If I'm them, Zama Meow Zek/Lando seem mandatory. My guess is that Lando's the Scarfer since it has less devestatingly bad prediction fails compared to scarf Zek? But then you don't really have Rocks, Rocks Scarf seems terrible. Is it Rocks on Zek?
- If Zek doesn't come, Scale Shot Baxc might? But that seems bad into sand Exca, though at +1 you do outspeed Pao even if you're Ada which is interesting.
- I can see Talon coming if they dont go hazard-focused with Spikes Meow, since Pech is still good into Oger-W and can be kitted to be alright against Exca. It isn't great against Pao obviously, though.
- If I had to guess, Zama Meow Lando Zek Pech Baxc and just try to muscle through a more top-heavy team with just generically good Pokemon.
- If I'm you, TTar Exca Pao Palk Zap and then either Tinkaton or Cresselia. I like Tink generally speaking, but Tera Cress can be a decent end-game win condition? The team doesn't feel great, but, barring a TTar+Exca drop (seems odd against Zama Talon Zek Pech) I'm not sure what you do. PalkO drop maybe? but for what, surely not OgerH. Muk?? Clops?? I dunno.
lofty wigeon
- I can see Talon coming if they dont go hazard-focused with Spikes Meow, since ...
https://pokepast.es/daf8cf36ee506aa5
this is what I played against last week, rock blast scraf ttar was my webs answer for the match, it could be useful again here too
Zamazenta seems kinda like a nightmare to deal with for me, i'm hesitant to bring Pao into a match up like that where it's revenge range might not be able to kill it.
rancid kestrel
where it's revenge range might not be able to kill it.
Struggling to understand what this means
lofty wigeon
> where it's revenge range might not be able to kill it.
Struggling to understan...
chipping zenta into sucker punch or ice shard range
rancid kestrel
Fair. Yeah Pao is not exactly a Zama response but it seems pretty good into most other Pokemon your opponent has was my view
lofty wigeon
Clops seems like a decent answer to zenta
i'd have to see the amount of crunches it can survive tho
astral hatch
https://pokepast.es/d2f8f3c4afc080ee
Opps team is the image, the paste is my team
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astral hatch
I genuinely feel like I get near 6’0ed by Mamo until Sins sets up and teras
Not sure on what item my Tar should run
tera captain here is Sins
Speed investments outspeed a max speed timid/jolly Cele
Psychic is for Weezing
on Floette
Not too sure what to do with Drill
astral hatch
I genuinely feel like I get near 6’0ed by Mamo until Sins sets up and teras
Mamo is the reason why I decided to run slowking over Volc
tanks a banded eq, can swap to Sinistcha/Drill
If it clicks ice move, it can easily stay in
But knock off does kill
so I’m super concerned abt Mamo
Spdef Scizor with sitrus soaks up lorb hydros from Greninja and should be able to beat it without too much trouble
Although roost is there to assure it can pivot back in if it isn’t specs with relative ease
If it’s specs it might cause a little trouble but it’s much more easier to work around
due to slowking soaking up water hits and whatnot ykyk
same stuff same stuff
Ignore the tera on Slowking btw I can’t use it
Helm Sins punishes a lot of contact but also I think a yache berry could be nice
I’m not sure, I literally started planning today bc I forgot, so I’d like some help here
rancid kestrel
https://pokepast.es/d2f8f3c4afc080ee
Opps team is the image, the paste is my tea...
Why do you have seven Pokemon with a set?
astral hatch
Why do you have seven Pokemon with a set?
Was gonna use volc
But changed my mind
top 6 r the mons I’m bringing likely
rancid kestrel
top 6 r the mons I’m bringing likely
Is this doubles or singles?
astral hatch
singles
rancid kestrel
https://pokepast.es/d2f8f3c4afc080ee
Opps team is the image, the paste is my tea...
Is ID and Sap both necessary on Sinischa? Seems like the latter serves the purpose of the former and it's not like you're relying on the IDef to boost Stored Power. Could drop it for coverage, could drop Sap for Matcha Gatcha, I dunno, something.
I assume you have your speed tiers and stuff in the proper place, gut instinct I'm not sure why TTar has boots here against this team, seems like it could benefit from something more effective?
astral hatch
Is ID and Sap both necessary on Sinischa? Seems like the latter serves the purpo...
Using idef to beat Mamo outside of boosts too, just to sweep
I’m not too sure on the item with Tar, could go lefties
rancid kestrel
Lefties or Sitrus, could also consider a Ground resist berry to better trade with something like Mamo, other resist berries exist but idt you really need one for like Hands. Celes maybe but IDT it'd take much from FBlast to justify anyway.
astral hatch
Lefties or Sitrus, could also consider a Ground resist berry to better trade wit...
I’m p sure Sins can handle Hands pretty easily, this is eved to outspeed adamant Mamo
Idef and sap is relatively free
I think I go with shuca on Tar
Getting that low kick on mamo can be big
rancid kestrel
I guess I'm just not super big on solo Shadow Ball.
astral hatch
I guess I'm just not super big on solo Shadow Ball.
I feel ya, I wasn’t thinking abt it but noticed that unpredictability in draft is also very strong
It threatens Gren if it tries to switch in with a matcha yk
But little do they know ion got it
and enough cms means I live a lot w twater
jade solar
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kCSagYjCsCsn-BjLL96dT3QWkpbL1PF7MM_At00Gfws/edit?gid=2063994506#gid=2063994506
need help patching up a team i just replaced, left is the original, right is my changes, also the -100 scov basically means that the old guy had 100 more pts that he could use to fill out his slots.
misty plumeBOT
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rancid kestrel
This sure is a draft board design.
jade solar
yeah this is a pretty old style one indeed
rancid kestrel
With the asterisk of you're trying to fill out a team limited by rebuilding after draft...
- Your defensive backbone seems not fantastic to me. Bellibolt+Glowbro+Apple doesn't seem great to me, some other mons can be defensive but at the cost of other roles/tasks.
- Solo removal from Tusk? Sure, MDia, but I dunno that I'd make that choice personally.
- Somewhat worried about your Ground weakness here. A resist that will usually be Tera'd into something that may not have that resist, OgerW which isn't super defensive, and Bombirdier as the only immunity? Doesn't seem great to me.
jade solar
With the asterisk of you're trying to fill out a team limited by rebuilding afte...
yeah those are bases i was trying to address but i couldn't exactly find options that meshed easily without cutting some corners
and i was not sure how to fill in that type holes too
rancid kestrel
Gliscor is a decent defensive 'mon with good setting/removal and ground immunity? I dunno.
jade solar
i don't rate it that high personally
rancid kestrel
Understandable.
jade solar
i would love to slap on torn here but personally that mon has screwed me over more times that i would've loved it too
definitely my liking of it has very much soured due to unnecessary misses
rancid kestrel
Galarian Weezing exists, Levitate as an ability is like, not the worst thing you could use especially since you have Dengo meaning there's never gonna be a "defog into gag" week question.
jade solar
and I missed an ever bigger detail.... i did not see that hydrapple was taken
rancid kestrel
Oh, yeah, you're going to basically need to rebuild from near scratch off that problem.
jade solar
i do have time until tmrw 4 pm my time
so i can take some more time
but man i shld not have taken up this draft so carelessly 😭
mlatias is free is it a worth pickup 🤔
rancid kestrel
oh the megas arent listed in the normal tiers...
jade solar
yeah....
rancid kestrel
if you wanna take chomp obv dont take mlati, but otherwise mlati is def one of the viable tier 1 options
jade solar
well i can drop moon in that case yes
damn it i really wanna gamble on getting torn
but
idk if it's worth the risk
rancid kestrel
number 1 goal in draft is to have fun.
rancid kestrel
somethign to consider is that there are a number of t3 megas that aren't the worst ever. clef, chime, beedrill, slowbro, all viable picks for a mega slot even if they arent mdia or mlati or what have you
rancid kestrel
i think i'll stick to the whole moon + dia part
also very valid
jade solar
tera cap wise there isn't much left hmm...
idk if double steeling with crown is still a solid idea
i'll see what i can do tmrw morning, getting especially late for me
jade solar
if you have any more suggestions/advice you'd give pls mention them and ping me too
i'll be able to check them and use them accordingly
ty so much for the help
rancid kestrel
if you have any more suggestions/advice you'd give pls mention them and ping me ...
Things that look good that are probably underpriced: Dusclops, Bronzong, Cofagrigus, Du(dudu)nsparce, GWeezing, Lokix, Metagross, Reuniclus, STail, Keldeo (if tera), Zarude (if tera)
Things that seem overpriced to me: Buzzwole, Clefable, DeoD, Espathra, Gothitelle, Ogerpon, Serperior, Chi-Yu, Archaludon, Annihilape
jade solar
Things that look good that are probably underpriced: Dusclops, Bronzong, Cofagri...
oh yeah i forgot to mention, t1 and t2 mons aren't allowed to tera
spare relic
DPP draft my mu looking bad
astral hatch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9natdexdraft-2617631397 torch v yori
Won my draft match!
Very close though
Scarily close
I completely forgot abt t blast flying being a possibility
rancid kestrel
DPP draft my mu looking bad
Blah blah "dpp so far from sv hard to give good rate" blah
- Not having anything faster than 100 is rough here. I guess there's a world where scarf Luc can click the right move every time? Beware scarf Gengar though.
- Probably need to leave behind Cress, I doubt DPP Cress has enough tools to handle Gengar+Weavile, and you have enough potentially to stomach Meta/Lax without it, I'd think. But then you're bringing at least one of your NFEs, so.
- I dunno what the other mon you leave behind is, though. Gligar feels fake, so maybe that? Sneasel also can't be real. Gut instict is that Sneasel does more (v gar, meg, claydol) than Gligar (defensively against non-hp ice mane, some snorlax and meta) and that you probably have enough defenses to not have to rely on non-Evio Gligar?
- There's a wolrd Magmorter can tank a hit and wreck Meta's day or something like that I suppose. Flame Body's not really reliable but it's potentially a pain for them to work around.
- If I'm them I leave behind Meganium (into sneasel zap mag) and... Manectric? Maybe I'm overrating Qwil but I'd be somewhat worried about TSpikes if I was them, I dunno.
astral hatch
https://pokepast.es/750c1acf4329c52e
(Message says edited bc I edited paste)
My team vs my opp
misty plumeBOT
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astral hatch
My opp is my auntie so I’m uh
pretty nervous
She’s been playing for MANY years and as some
may know
this is my first draft
Sinistcha is tcaptain as always
I’m not too sure on what to do w the zap mu
I added pursuit on tar because Ion want zapdos to keep vswap for free
I considered toxic on Sneasler but I wasn’t sure
I meant to remove agility btw
it was gonna be a double dance set but just zapdos is so annoying
I think I can use taunt sneasler to prevent roost whenever it pivots in and just spam stabs + uturn
CM Sins looks amazing this game, as my auntie has a habit of bringing av luna
However their av luna is tera and I don’t want to get tera blasted into oblivion
She has no hazards I believe other than tspike, should I run defog over knock on scizor?
It’s spdef for Gren btw
I think Sins can check a lot like Ace, Luna, Alo, Rotom (although likely will use spdef scizor for it, I’m not sure if I should stack Excadrill + Scizor since they do such similar roles, but Scizor needs to check Gren and Drill can’t)
Floette is modest sub cm because it can beat alo, easily chunk Hgoodra, etc
And twave on Slowking will help a LOT with speed control, although lemme slot in teleport cause I forget it gets that
I think I should use fsight to get more pins
lofty sparrow
their zapdos comes and clicks volt switch for days no
also im not sure whos switching into gren
i guess ttar once but
idk if no atk investment does enough
astral hatch
also im not sure whos switching into gren
Scizor
I have spdef sitrus scizor so I can handle it
No it’s not the best switch in, but if it’s stuff like low kick/gunk shot it’s fine
astral hatch
their zapdos comes and clicks volt switch for days no
which is why I’m tryna get some help w that
thing is spdef drill and scizor feels weird
I don’t rlly know what to do bc Zap and Gren are like
not amazing mu’s
Could I use scarf drill maybe?
astral hatch
This Sins set is meant to break while also being bulky
Just to counter H Goodra and Ursa really
But idk if I want to make this faster than jolly Ursa or not
Excadrill outspeeds jolly bear while being slower than Zapdos
I want this because being able to rock slide and force it to not be able to roost is amazing for Sneasler
Should I go with sd unburden with lum then tho
I think I should
(Likely)
Final Paste
Here I’m gambling that their Goodra will be using heavy slam and not flash cannon with tera fairy sinistcha
This is due to M Floette
and even if they do bring that I’m fine since I have drill to call it out
Slowking is colbur due to me now having spin, and scizor is aquav
Aquav guarantees that even if I take two min roll surfs from max spatk Greninja, I will still proc it and live another one
This allows me to have more momentum in clicking uturn if I need to
hydro pump can still 2hko with a 16% chance though.. and tbh it’s likely modest anyways
Could go leftovers
rancid kestrel
(Likely)
Final Paste
https://pokepast.es/87a2f91628f8bb1e
What's Red Card for on Sinis specifically? Just general use "you are now out of position"?
spare relic
USUM draft. Pretty good top 4 ngl. Next step is getting a proper dark resist and a flying type. There’s a decent amount of options I can get.
rancid kestrel
USUM draft. Pretty good top 4 ngl. Next step is getting a proper dark resist and...
What options were you considering?
spare relic
What options were you considering?
Was considering Mandibuzz briefly but that got sniped
So I’m looking forward to getting togekiss as my 5th pick
And one of tenta/pex r6
rancid kestrel
Gut instinct, Tenta not Pex, but that's without any serious deep thought.
spare relic
Gut instinct, Tenta not Pex, but that's without any serious deep thought.
I’m thinking pex can give me more versatility defense wise
Tenta also has spin
So either option wouldn’t be bad
rancid kestrel
Yeah just Togekiss sole removal feels dangerous to me
spare relic
There’s also defog serp but like
Don’t wanna be forced to bringing that in too much games 😂
rancid kestrel
Yeah, probably
There's presumably cheaper removal, and its not like you're missing a base 100 anyway
spare relic
Also was considering muk too because it’s typing is good
spare relic
Tenta sniped, it’s game time
rancid kestrel
Pex and then a cheaper removal later, I suppose?
spare relic
Pex and then a cheaper removal later, I suppose?
I really want a dark type but the pool seems rough rn
Definitely want pex to alongside togekiss aswell
rancid kestrel
There's probably a decent enough NFE to grab, not immediately sure what the goal is there (psychic type switchin? you havew jirachi) admittedly.
spare relic
There's probably a decent enough NFE to grab, not immediately sure what the goal...
I want a stored power immune and a ghost resist
spare relic
Thoughts on Ttar? Unnerve seems interesting to try
rancid kestrel
Can't immediately think of anything alarmingly bad with it if you're set on a Dark type
Dunno that it's really a SP switchin with how many weaknesses it has, but resist berries exist, I suppose.
spare relic
Can't immediately think of anything alarmingly bad with it if you're set on a Da...
Ended up just going with the original angle of kiss pex after thinking
Pex probably handles the only relevant ghost types(gengar, black phone, marowak, etc) although gut feeling is that I still want that dark typing
If Ttar gets sniped(which look at my pool) most likely to get sniped
jade solar
need help for this nd matchup, it's a bit tricky and i wanted advice on how to aproach this mu
misty plumeBOT
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rancid kestrel
need help for this nd matchup, it's a bit tricky and i wanted advice on how to a...
- They have a lot of focus on physical offense. Meow, Starmie, GDarm, even stuff like Cyc and Corv. You don't have like, an incredible physical wall, but stuff like Tusk or Weezing or MDia can help somewhat on this end.
- Their setting kinda sucks. Meow is half of their setting? Claydol is their only rocker? At least their removal is thorough, with two decent spinners and a Defogger. Guess that comes with the Shedinja plan. Hell, MStar probably appreciates the +1 Speed that comes from forcing a switchout, but maybe not specifically in this battle.
- You have a pretty glaring speed disadvantage here. Sure, RMoon can be faster (scarf RMoon sounds bad though), and sure Lycanroc can run scarf, but your scarf options are somewhat limited compared to theirs.
- If I'm you, I stack up on bulky offense and hope to just tank enough hits to be able to hit back hard enough. Beware Shed Tail.
- Something like RMoon / MDia / Tusk / Dengo / Weezing / Reuni. Prob don't need all of MDia Dengo Weezing Reuni but you probably do need RMoon for an end-game sweep.
- If I'm them, I bet on being able to just bring their six best 'mons, Meow / Cyc / Star / GDarm / Corv +1. That +1 is probably Swellow or Claydol here, but GKing can come if they want to juice up GDarm more. Swellow if they want more offense, Claydol if they want utility, Glowking if they need more pivoting/want to gamble on GDarm. ThundyT and Shed are like, outside picks, I don't value them highly here.
jade solar
- They have a lot of focus on physical offense. Meow, Starmie, GDarm, even stuff...
Is there any alternative option to weezing in this MU
jade solar
fair
rotom heat does give me a pivot tho
which helps me position my offensive pieces better
untold crag
USUM draft. Pretty good top 4 ngl. Next step is getting a proper dark resist and...
Im playing too
My draft meh
+mini hoopa
misty plumeBOT
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rancid kestrel
Feels like getting hazards up might be a tough difficult? Kinda reliant on Shuckle which rarely comes, unless you put Rocks on LandoI I guess
spare relic
Final USUM draft. Ended up getting sniped hard in my pool but it’s fine
untold crag
Feels like getting hazards up might be a tough difficult? Kinda reliant on Shuck...
Yh
Lot of stuff i wanted got sniped before my turn
Scizor and pex would have been something different but there was only few good steel and grounded poision left
untold crag
Final USUM draft. Ended up getting sniped hard in my pool but it’s fine
Not bad ngl
jade solar
need help for this nd matchup, it's a bit tricky and i wanted advice on how to a...
won the matchup but was a close affair
playing aggresively and just u turn spamming at the end sealed the win for me
god bless scarf moon
i think the twave from ghold just helped get me back in the game
also no gdarm in sight
cunning rapids
Hey there everyone
I'm currently in a draft league, it's prolly my first time semi-seriously playing competetive pokemon and I'm doing it with friends
On the first round of the draft league I got tapu koko so I'm thinking future paradoxes next, iron bundle specifically, however I hear that great tusk which counters tapu koko a decent amount especially if I wanna use choice specs a certain game, also counters iron bundle
So I wanna ask for advice on whether I should go for iron bundle or try and recruit some other future paradoxes instead
The draft just started I only got Koko
rancid kestrel
I can’t say that “great tusk counters iron bundle” is usually how I see things. This is ND Draft?
cunning rapids
ND?
Sorry I'm still new to the terminology
I've just heard it here and there tbh, I can't see Great Tusk countering bundle myself but I thought I should trust people who know more than me on this.
rancid kestrel
National Dex - based on Koko and Tusk coexisting sounds like you aren’t playing with standard SV rules
cunning rapids
Oh what, Koko isn't in SV?
rancid kestrel
No
cunning rapids
Damn, sorry my bad, should I uh, get outta here if that's not allowed or something
Oh wait I can just link the draft hete can't I?
rancid kestrel
No, just a clarification since you haven’t linked the draft doc
cunning rapids
One second
Sending the draft board here then
There we go
So uh, whadoyouthink, should I draft Iron bundle as my next pick?
rancid kestrel
Are you dead set on doing a electric terrain future paradox team?
cunning rapids
Are you dead set on doing a electric terrain future paradox team?
Not dead set on it
But that's really the only direction I've got rn
Grabbing some future paradoxes, hopefully some strong mons on lower tiers and then winging it, I'm terrible at teambuildimg
rancid kestrel
I don’t really recommend it, gimmick teams are rarely worth it in draft and you already lost access to Val and Treads, the only other 2 Future Paradoxes worth anything
cunning rapids
Ah I mean okay then, couldn't I just take whatever 2 other paradoxes for synergy and build the rest of my roster the normal way?
Yknow whatever good ones there are, I really don't know much about the future paradoxes
rancid kestrel
I mean, Bundle is fine on their own, to be clear, I dunno that it’s worth the price listed but it’s a fine Pokemon in theory. The problem is then, what’s your next best Pokemon? Iron Moth? Meh. It’s a lot of commitment to a bunch of Pokemon that have very little value just because “oh well I have electric terrain shouldn’t I use that”
cunning rapids
I mean yeah I guess, I'll just take bundle for a little bit of synergy and then go a different direction from there probs
rancid kestrel
If you want Bundle that’s fine yeah, I wouldn’t recommend it personally though
cunning rapids
I mean that's alright, what would you recommend? I don't wanna be too demanding so I didn't wanna ask vague reccomendations really
rancid kestrel
MLati’s good, Meow’s alright, Terapagos is seriously underpriced, Darkrai Bundle Gren DeoS MDia MGall MLop MMedi all usable
cunning rapids
Yeah i heard terapagos is highly good depending on who's using it
"who's using it" is the phrase that scared me off haha
rancid kestrel
Probably not the best mon for a new player, but in the sense that you’ll probably fail to get it 100% useful, but it’ll still be good enough to justify considering
cunning rapids
Sooo maybe I should go for mega latias?
rancid kestrel
That’d be something worth taking, for sure
cunning rapids
Alright I'll lock that pick in then
Is it alright if I come here for advice later?
rancid kestrel
That’s fine yes
cunning rapids
Wonderful, Ill try not to be too annoying
cunning rapids
Is it alright if I come here for advice later?
Hmm I'm gonna be picking soon, so it'll probably sooner than one may think
Wait is that listed, the pick order?
Does that change anything?
Oh wait I'm picking again already haha
cunning rapids
MLati’s good, Meow’s alright, Terapagos is seriously underpriced, Darkrai Bundle...
Would taking any of these picks be too expensive now?
rancid kestrel
Well obviously taking MLati changes the priorities a fair bit
You have decent high speed and damage, with a touch of utility from MLati, but you’ll probably want at least one more “you absolutely need to respect the damage this mon can do” name
cunning rapids
Yeah I'll need to look into how to use latias later then, thanks for the utility hint
rancid kestrel
If you wanna take a big hitter, Gren adds another really terrifying mon with a good speed overlap w/ what you have currently
cunning rapids
Hmm, regular gallade is 9 points
rancid kestrel
Regular Gallade is not scary to anyone
cunning rapids
If you wanna take a big hitter, Gren adds another really terrifying mon with a g...
Oh neat, I wasn't sure whether to take it because of protean
Being nerfed
Doesn't greninja have a bad stab moveset tho
rancid kestrel
In what sense
cunning rapids
Idk that's last i heard of it's water STAB moveset
It has what like water shuriken for water?
rancid kestrel
You have Pump, you have Surf, Shuriken stab, what more could you need
cunning rapids
Idk I'll take it if you say so, i can learn how to use it later
rancid kestrel
If you want Gren, take Gren
cunning rapids
Oh right this is singles
rancid kestrel
You have many options
cunning rapids
Thank you fairy!!!
What roles should i prioritise after this? For future reference so i don't have to keep pestering you all the time
rancid kestrel
Here are some roles that people consider in ND drafts: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-natdex-draft-role-guide.3761184/
Non-exhaustive and may not be super easy to like, decode, but
cunning rapids
got it, thank you
drowsy hornet
Good morning,
I’m playing in a local Draft tournament using the VGC Reg. F 2026 format, and I would like some help building a team for my next opponent. I already have my 10 Pokémon selected, but I’m still fairly new to competitive Pokémon and would appreciate some guidance.
I’ve attached the PokéPaste with my 10 Pokémon, as well as an image showing my opponent’s 10 Pokémon. I’d like help identifying my team’s strengths and weaknesses, possible game plans, and which Pokémon and sets would be best to bring for this matchup.
Sorry if my message is difficult to understand. I’m using a translator because English is not my native language.
Thank you in advance for any help!
misty plumeBOT
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rancid kestrel
Good morning,
I’m playing in a local Draft tournament using the VGC Reg. F 2026...
Why do you have all 10 Pokemon with sets? Which ones did you intend to bring?
drowsy hornet
Why do you have all 10 Pokemon with sets? Which ones did you intend to bring?
They’re preset sets that I keep ready. Sometimes, because of university, I don’t have enough time to adjust my teams, so I keep them prepared in case a battle is scheduled at the last minute.
I was thinking of bringing Urshifu, Iron Hands, Heatran, Chien-Pao, Gengar, and Arcanine.
rancid kestrel
I would recommend building an actual team you intend to use and then coming to get that looked at. There isn't much I can do about a list of sets that exist outside of actual draft planning.
Like, it's already limiting somewhat to rate VGC Draft, but like, unless you want me to rate the lineups and give some teambuilding advice, you're probably better off building then coming for thoughts
drowsy hornet
Perfect, thank you very much. I’ll come back later.
rancid kestrel
If you want some immediate thoughts on those 6 - I wonder what Gengar's doing - it doesn't seem to be helpful against most of their mons? Sableye seems more useful for utility meddling, given that your six is otherwise mostly offensively orientated?
drowsy hornet
It’s just that I’m not completely confident in my choices. The last time I played competitive Pokémon was back in Black and White, and now there are Pokémon that can ignore Protect or lower your defenses just by entering the battle.
I’ll see how I can adapt and cover as many possibilities as possible. I really want to beat this person no matter what.
rancid kestrel
No, that's valid. Just some feedback since VGC Draft is pretty far from what this place usually does and trying to help what I can, yknow.