#SV OU Rates
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oops I thought it was 252 hp my bad
the glimmora set is bad, you shouldn't be running red card if you have 0 defensive investment and are -spdef
and tera rock is for meteor beam sets, use ghost tera
makes sense
also tera dark gambit shouldn't be leftovers
go 252 hp tera ghost or just glasses
https://pokepast.es/f3a8f53d6e1fd2bb here fixed it
(fixing ❌ getting a sample ⭕
cuz yes
our water & fire resists are horrendus
🤷
double ghost without a good ghost resist tho
and prolly should be freeing someboots
ceru looks like another really bad matchup
team should be playable into most matchups at least, if you play well you should have a shot
https://pokepast.es/92f4b5fa8fd0090d how we feel about my first svou build lol
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sun hurts
It shouldn’t
t water gking eats anything Wake can do
Lu soaks up Bolt with your only problem being solar beam
and most physical attackers are soaked by Corvi
You should def edit your sets and remove eq from lu tho
stomping can work
you also lack reliable hazard control
You should be able to do smth like Gking Alo Treads with a Hawlucha over Sceptile
and then last slot should be smth that can pressure birds and gliscor easier
imo you can run sub sd hawlucha which can beat gliscor, alongside tfire or electric to beat either zap or molt
think electric works with sub so you can 1v1 zapdos and win
Also better into brave bird no idef corvi but your last slot should def be smth that can pressure Corvi and whatnot
Imo I like scarf Bolt but you don’t outspeed za or pult w scarf
Specs Pult can work too
and make Rilla terrain extender
no you need the immediate power from banded rilla
future sight + CB rilla is your only way to cope into breaking any fat team
and forget about beating stall
the sceptile feels extremely out of place
you have a balance team, then a random sceptile that can only function once per game
the sceptile has no ability to boost its power so any half competent defensive mon can easily stonewall it and after that it's totally useless for the rest of the game
make a copy of the team, remove the sceptile from this team, and build a separate grassy terrain offense team around sceptile, it just won't work here
you currently have no kingambit answer aside from sceptile which is a super cope answer, so you can replace it with like a lefties zama if you want to do something with gterrain
with roar to defeeat boost sweepers which you have no answer to
rip my goat, zu for a reason
I mean technically it's ZUBL
unburned got banned from ZU because sceptile and hitmonlee were too strong lul
what do u think last mon should be 👀 https://pokepast.es/b9daec8c9fbbeca1
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dnite
okk
another vote for dnite here yeah
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samu spread could def be better imo
https://pokepast.es/3a81e4b92f095add
rate? for tr glowking: i noticed i literally never use thunder wave but tr can and has come into clutch sometimes so thats why i put it. av tusk also, no rocks is wierd but i do ok with it on ladder, maybe js idk how to use rocks well but it never is useful for me and av helps me against ghold on hstack
alluring voice on mola is to punish sub dd kyu/nite and if i need to emergency hax vs pon and sd gambit (tho tbf i made this team before tera blast ban meaning i believe these would be less used and more counterable so i could switch to body slam or play rough, but i still like anti gambit/pon
wisp on molt + 16 speed is to speed creep 219 speed mons for gambit, and wisp is to beat gambit without taking a lot of damage after roaring (same can be done w. nite and scizor)
adamant pon as opposed to jolly bc it helps get 2hkoes (albeit wit roll) on kyu and rbolt and gets a ko on moltres after ivy cudgel or knock off
96 speed on tusk outspeeds pon after a rapid spin
one thing im not sure of is gambit because its like weird, its not really used but sometimes clutches me up and no other mon felt right, tried scizor, icrown
https://pokepast.es/eede4fb36a3662d4
Could anyone help me improve this team?
it's a good tr team imo I don't rly see what to replace, Tera Normal can also be a good option for Ursaluna but Ghost is good too
And maybe Thunder Punch on hands so u don't get Recoil Damages
Should I play Hoppa as a physical attacker or leave it as mixed?
I like this moveset mixed is goated
https://pokepast.es/c639f91c6ef54043
any recos? Aiming for an aggressive build with a little balance thrown in, slither looks amazing in the meta rn, able to threaten hat, cress, rai, deox-s, kyurem, and of course gambit while still doing ~70% at -1 to bulky lando after Tera fire
Im mostly looking for recommendations for the rest of the team, standard sets are due to me not having any experience this format, last OU I played was USUM
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https://pokepast.es/9a3ed86114757fd3 TIRED to fix this thing
team should be fine aside from having 3 ground weaknesses and not even a resist, so if the most common mon in the tier shows up you have to sac a mon
but it's screens HO so you can get away with that
W mon names
trick room is in general worse than twave because it's temporary, but it's a strong surprise pick
dislike non max speed tusk, you don't outspeed gholdengo and ceruledge so you can't remove on them reliably
+2 252 SpA Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 0 HP / 160 SpD Assault Vest Great Tusk: 345-406 (92.9 - 109.4%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
also be very careful of ival since nothing on the team outspeeds it and if it's physical it dumpsters everything except moltres who hates taking knock off
another team that needs to be mega careful of iron valiant
at least you have bulky ghold though which is a great check provided it's not a specs ival with shadow ball (fastest mon on the team is 300 speed great tusk !!!) which basically comes in 2-3 times and instantly wins
but like if the opp has ival + zama + another strong physical attacker (dnite and cornerpon come to mind) then you might be boned since your team is overall very slow for an offense team (fastest mon is 300 speed great tusk !!!!) with only alo and ghold to beat physical attackers
oh also another note, this team also mega loses to stall doesn't it, you might want to go black glasses gambit so you can cope you at least have a chance
Might try an ival of my own ngl
Maybe over alo to fully lean into the offensive side?
Then I could swap my tusk for zapdos or smth to keep my types diverse
Sounds good, how do I threaten lando/gliscor with these changes tho
it's gonna be difficult but you have spinner tusk and kingambit tera dark
tough to build a team with only 5 mons because slither wing can't be counted to do anything
so you will have some bad matchups
Wdym?
triple axel
yea for ival thats one issue i noticed for mixed
yep, the reason is i never use twave, like whenever i use twave it never does anything
but glowking can check ival cuz i did put some defense investment
if i can get ival to switch out im ok bc pon can outspeed and 99% of the time the tera is on p9n
actuallt from full glowking wins vs ival bc of def investment, glowking can trick room and then sludge bomb forcing it out or letting me outspeed with pon next time, and if it teras then its forced out by tusk or gambit or pon
4 Atk Iron Valiant Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 120 Def Slowking-Galar: 184-218 (46.7 - 55.3%) -- 71.1% chance to 2HKO
but 2nd time is ⅔ damage
i xont have goo much of a ghold problem which is why i kept it, and i prefer the bulk bc fast np ghold gets knocked off by pon anyway or 2hkoed by ivy cudgel
and with max hp it sacrifices speed (tusk outspeeds) or spa (tusk survives{
do u guys have any ideas on what my dnite set should be on this ho https://pokepast.es/03517c859fd9f270
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if you have doubts, you can try multiple ways
woger and zama can appreciate fire punch to damage corv for ex
or you just just do a more normal roost or ice spinner
te main thing im unsure of on this team is gambit, it feels like it doesnt do much any game i played but also it feels it sometimes more of a deterrent? i could try other proority mons but gambit has js felt the best, ive tried scizor, dnite and lokix. also experimented with fifth voltturners like iron crown or zapdos, and specs rbolt
the main issue i have rn is ceruledge so gambits prolly the best against that
https://pokepast.es/57e530921c78156b
Kyurem is a horrible mu
ok besides kommo-o and gweezing what did i miscook https://pokepast.es/466ffeff0f5fee54
yes i didn't have that much of an idea of what i was doing
why temper flare molt? and why 164 speed
also why explosiom garg
also sleep is banned in ou
I forgot to specify this is a old team from a thread that I wanted to work on
It's old and crappy
I want some ideas on how to rework it
All I did was remove sleep and replaced it with focus blast
I think the original user wanted explosion garg for an emergency wipe other than that beats me
oh
protect would be better
but it could work ig
if there were one problem mon that explosion beats id say go for it but
if you're keeping same mons chsnge molt to standard set with 248 hp 248+ def 12 speed, or 244+ 16 speed to speedcreep scizors and gholds designed to 219. and flamethrower
I want to get rid of moltres and metagross
Everyone else I think they will do fine
Any tips or changes to this rain team im tryna use? (Im tryna win with some of my favorites)
https://pokepast.es/a2e2962034384977
molt seems ok, meta is the weakest link tho
maybe change meta to av mola if you want a bulkier team, or change molt to av mola instead and choose another offensive mon for metagross psogiio
I see
I'll look for metagross replacements
Honestly I want to see how great tusk fairs as hazard control
I have no form of hazard or speed control on this team lowk
First balance Hazard spam team
I feel like theres too much liabilities but what are yalls thoughts
n
- whu avalugg and overqwil
- feels like a like offensive team but glowking and avalugg slapped on
if you want hstack balance maybe try like
tusk and gliscor
or tusk and hamurott with hamurott being more offensive e.g with scarf
alomomola would also do good, mola glowking is a good core
4 ground weaknesses no immunity
replcae avalugg with great tusk for the gambit and bolt and electric matchups
then overqwil replace with maybe an ogerpon? if you really want an offensive spikes setter
you don't need toxic spikes on teams like these, so don't be too worried about that
ok
I replaced overqwill with gliscor
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kinda want to fit uturn on scor but can't find slots, is it worth replacing rocks or protect?
but I feel like replacing protect overloads scor, so maybe lando could be better here
nah dont replace protect
i think ghold + pult can be a bit redundant though
maybe like rocks tran over ghold so you can fit uturn scor
but then youd prolly want like boots roar zama over krai and knock on samu
weakness policy espeed
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Make Gliscor the spiker and replace hamurott with Clefable I think
thx for idea will use
maybe could use a water resist here
if you want darks then samu over rai and then tera water lando
av samu
no
H-Samu in general is goated
why tho
don't I have a weak ass ghold mu then
https://pokepast.es/87d6efcc4fe27840 not sure if this is too much swords dance for a balance team
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ceru is kinda random here
rest sleep talk ting lu and ceruledge do not belong on the same team
delete heatran, change the ting lu to a rocks set
then you need a gambit answer so try adding a zamazenta
iron defense body press crunch roar probably
then you have a nice offense team
should I run tera fire or dark?
test it and see what you want more
ok
gl
i realized my team has no special attackers and I just got dominated by a ironpress chesnaught
https://pokepast.es/3852b9e53b3eb723
Grassy Terrain HO Feat. Scarf Serperior
Slotted Terrakion over Zamazenta for Stealth Rock to ensure more kills with Grassy Terrain boosted Leaf Storm
Taunt to shutdown setup sweepers & stall
Iron Moth’s Energy Ball is also Grassy Terrain boosted
Having a spinner for this team isn’t mandatory because there’s only 1 stealth rock weak mon
Been contemplating booster speed on moth rather than booster special but I’ll have to play more games with the team to decide
On one hand, booster special’s wall breaking power is vital
On the other hand, moth’s speed tier leaves a bit to be desired (at least in terms of OU standards)
https://pokepast.es/4c9780aa91ddd366 correct me I already posted this
the problem with terrakion over zama is that it's nowhere near as reliable for beating gambit
especially if it's chipped earlygame setting rocks
ngl this team feels like an HO with basically no setup
if ur using a terrain extender rilla, why not add terrain abusers? zama, lucha, grassy seed ghold
and you can remove the cope low kick from rilla for wood hammer and probably SD over uturn
spinner isn't mandatory because it's HO
the fact a mon is taking rocks damage makes it rocks weak
unless it actively resists rocks but even then it's probably taking spikes and tspikes
Grassy seed gholdengo??
Never seen that one b4
it's a really common grassy terrain abuser ye and you already have a ghold so makes sense
Woodhammer over low kick makes sense
I knew going in that this team lacked a bit of breaking power
could try the classic tera dark gambit
I tried compensating with loaded dice rock blast but ig iron defense zama is just that good
but the stall matchup is going to be bad no matter what you try cuz you have a serp and a terrain extender rilla
and iron moth, those 3 are never doing anything to stall
and the ghold doesn't want to be psyshock
no stall ever loses to zama and definitely not terrakion
so yeah probably just give up on the stall matchup and if you match into stall try to position around endgame tera dark gambit
update: I actually chose tera steel to beat gliscor, only problem is that now chandelure beats my zama
and also any other fire type that outspeeds zama, which with webs, is almost all of them
@quartz stream wdyt, does twave pult feels too much?
@quartz stream how’s this?
- Swapped Low Kick to Wood Hammer on Rillaboom
- Swapped Terrakion for Zamazenta
- Swapped to a defensive Gholdengo set with Grassy Seed
- Swapped from Tera Fairy to Tera Dark on Kingambit
(Sorry for double ping, had to edit the link)
honestly, would kinda advice you to be a bit be careful with the tusk mu, yeah you have two resists but the same two resists fold to it most common coverage ice spinner, and even with that your resist are too frail to be able to take a headlong rush and shrug it off
What’s tusk doing against booster dgleam from moth
Hell even energy ball is doing a lot of damage under GT
I haven’t done calcs but I wouldn’t be surprised if GT boosted leaf storm is a OHKO
Bulky Gholdengo should be able to survive at least one Headlong at full, especially if it’s grassy seed boosted
I could slap dgleam on it as well to better the tusk matchup
I haven’t tried this new version yet so I’ll just have to see what it does
Plus, grassy glide
I’m more concerned about opposing Iron Moth
Ice spinner + Headlong is dangerous coverage for this team especially now that Gholdengo is lacking the air balloon
I meant that it's hard for any of your mon to switch on a headlong rush, it just that if it ever got the chance to switch on it will do damage, bulky ghold with grassy seed is sure but it usually does it effect only once with seed
except for like zama
and yes you can offensively check just fine, I said to you just have to be careful against it
just don't like the no ground immunity in general
I mean the only other mon with a ground immunity I would’ve considered is hawlucha but like
We already have a fighting type in zama
I tend not to overlap too much unless it’s central to the team’s archetype or whatever
also tbf what I said can also be somewhat applied to lando
also quick question, what makes scarf sep special here?
Tbh I’m not really sure
Serperiors speed tier is pretty solid but I guess scarf allows it to out speed a lot more common threats
The main draw honestly are those grassy terrain boosted leaf storms
you can test it out ig, although I recommand running something other then giga drain, like leaf storm would your usual move to use for stab, make it dragon pulse
I don't see the point of giga drain
Compounded with the extra speed from scarf and it’s really easy to start steamrolling
See neither did I
I figured “oh I’m already getting grassy terrain recovery why would I need ANOTHER grass stab
Extra longevity is nice but I usually opt for more coverage
Especially on a choice Pokémon
But that’s the default OU set for serp
the problem is sep is painfully frail without defensive investments so in most cases you're not surviving a lot of hits
let me go check the set real quick
sooo, basically the thing is there if you run into a position where you run out of leaf storm pp....yea still doesn't feel justifiable but I guess it's your call if you wanna keep it
tbf you have a lot of tusk/dozo (the one they mentioned in the analysis) offensive answers so yea just go dragon pulse
Hell yeah brother
sorry I was playing ubers with a 5 mon team and was in brainrot mode
hmm you lose 6-0 to tera fire gambit
the team should mostly be fine though
yea no ground immunity is a bother here, hazards will also be a big probem
but it's HO, the only hazard you really have to respect is webs
and you have 2 prio mons so you have a shot at least
Rate my current team
https://pokepast.es/fb0c491fd6cc5e90
Been working on it for a while, its suprisingly good imo
won't I have the chance to twave it? like I should be able to do something with tera fairy molt
twaving it gives you an rng chance to beat it yea
what elo and what do you lose to
the weezing and snorlax seem suspect
Snorlax walls most special attackers in the format and revenges fairys and gholdengo, weezing is a beast into ogerpon, great tusk, lando, etc. Currently hovering around 1300-1400elo @quartz stream
bro that snorlax was a jumpscare
Considering fire punch over heat crash tho.
why not weezing galar
gives you a dragon switchin as well
I can trust the weezing but not the snorlax
it has no recovery so it will be easily worn down and then it can't switch in anymore
also you kinda lose 6-0 to stall
feel like you have no immediate power, also no wincon is rough
try AV iron crown with volt switch maybe
you need a steel type anyways
oh that gives you no ghost resist though
av kingambit 🔥
or just av samu 😭
ig you have enough fake flying resists with the double av that you can get away with no steel
so lax -> hamurott
and consider weezing -> geezing
Ill give that a try, & weezing has been more consistant for me in testing
also yeah weezing is just a downgrade of geezing
basically the only difference between regular and galar is +fairy type
which is just a buff especially since ur team has no dragon resist
and the fact that weez can be ground immune but ehh
why sd chomp kinda farms the original team 😭
but the second advantage of geezing is that people won't do a double take when they see it, because it's OU viable
so they might overlook that there was no neutralizing gas popup
Weezing walls it and has haze tho
sd chomp farms 90% of teams
ival and weezing galar are very strong into it though so it's not all perfect
+2 252 Atk Tera Dragon Garchomp Scale Shot (4 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing: 280-336 (83.8 - 100.5%) -- approx. 0.4% chance to OHKO
yeah I said kinda
Also moltres loves scale shot
ig some cowards don't use tera dragon but that gives you a totally different problem now that you can't burn it
moltres is oneshot by scale shot
it's like a 55% roll to die counting the 90% miss chance
also btw is twave too much on pult (my team)
and if it's tera fire you live but now instead can't touch it back
I think it should be fine ngl, maybe try wisp if it's troublesome
the triple status double hex is worth a shot
if you find that everything is always statused, yeah change twave on pult to uturn or whatever
Ill give the av hamurott a try over lax
bless
twave feels unexpected also it's annoying for fire switch ins
and galar weezing is a direct upgrade to regular so try that too
Ty for the feedback 👍 👍
yea 🙏
weird question but what's with the name 💀
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no removal cb weavile is bad i think
Anyone I could replace Weavile with?
doubles goes to doubles rate 
i mean woger without synthesis also needs hazard removal
Who would be good at hazard removal for my team?
K, thanks
https://pokepast.es/8424601912cccefc
how does this team look? weezing has been feeling a little mid on this team but that might just be a skill issue
helmet utility harc with an offensive statspread seems weird
also you have no ghost resist only tera normal, ceru could be a problem
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this feels like a screens team without screens
you have a deo, a zama, a moth, a goltres, and power herb glimm
but then it's not screens
go screens deo here over skill swap and spikes
and you can change red card and taunt for eject psycho boost maybe
because i want to use scizor+lo zama
just use deoxys for screens
