#SV OU Rates

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limber spear
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for stall mu

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or for like max def sets

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such as here

quartz stream
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oops I thought it was 252 hp my bad

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the glimmora set is bad, you shouldn't be running red card if you have 0 defensive investment and are -spdef

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and tera rock is for meteor beam sets, use ghost tera

woeful flax
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Forgot to change to ghost

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And focus sash

quartz stream
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makes sense

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also tera dark gambit shouldn't be leftovers

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go 252 hp tera ghost or just glasses

gritty lake
limber spear
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(fixing ❌ getting a sample ⭕

gritty lake
jade cedar
scarlet nacelle
jade cedar
limber spear
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double ghost without a good ghost resist tho

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and prolly should be freeing someboots

quartz stream
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team should be playable into most matchups at least, if you play well you should have a shot

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meager minnow
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sun hurts

queen saddle
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t water gking eats anything Wake can do

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Lu soaks up Bolt with your only problem being solar beam

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and most physical attackers are soaked by Corvi

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You should def edit your sets and remove eq from lu tho

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stomping can work

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you also lack reliable hazard control

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You should be able to do smth like Gking Alo Treads with a Hawlucha over Sceptile

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and then last slot should be smth that can pressure birds and gliscor easier
imo you can run sub sd hawlucha which can beat gliscor, alongside tfire or electric to beat either zap or molt

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think electric works with sub so you can 1v1 zapdos and win

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Also better into brave bird no idef corvi but your last slot should def be smth that can pressure Corvi and whatnot
Imo I like scarf Bolt but you don’t outspeed za or pult w scarf

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Specs Pult can work too

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and make Rilla terrain extender

quartz stream
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no you need the immediate power from banded rilla

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future sight + CB rilla is your only way to cope into breaking any fat team

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and forget about beating stall

quartz stream
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you have a balance team, then a random sceptile that can only function once per game

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the sceptile has no ability to boost its power so any half competent defensive mon can easily stonewall it and after that it's totally useless for the rest of the game

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make a copy of the team, remove the sceptile from this team, and build a separate grassy terrain offense team around sceptile, it just won't work here

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you currently have no kingambit answer aside from sceptile which is a super cope answer, so you can replace it with like a lefties zama if you want to do something with gterrain

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with roar to defeeat boost sweepers which you have no answer to

meager minnow
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rip my goat, zu for a reason

quartz stream
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unburned got banned from ZU because sceptile and hitmonlee were too strong lul

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round portal
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ogerpon?

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never mind i forgot i get fried by other ogerpons

round portal
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okk

quartz stream
carmine oak
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carmine oak
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samu spread could def be better imo

gritty lake
noble hare
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https://pokepast.es/3a81e4b92f095add
rate? for tr glowking: i noticed i literally never use thunder wave but tr can and has come into clutch sometimes so thats why i put it. av tusk also, no rocks is wierd but i do ok with it on ladder, maybe js idk how to use rocks well but it never is useful for me and av helps me against ghold on hstack
alluring voice on mola is to punish sub dd kyu/nite and if i need to emergency hax vs pon and sd gambit (tho tbf i made this team before tera blast ban meaning i believe these would be less used and more counterable so i could switch to body slam or play rough, but i still like anti gambit/pon
wisp on molt + 16 speed is to speed creep 219 speed mons for gambit, and wisp is to beat gambit without taking a lot of damage after roaring (same can be done w. nite and scizor)

adamant pon as opposed to jolly bc it helps get 2hkoes (albeit wit roll) on kyu and rbolt and gets a ko on moltres after ivy cudgel or knock off

96 speed on tusk outspeeds pon after a rapid spin

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one thing im not sure of is gambit because its like weird, its not really used but sometimes clutches me up and no other mon felt right, tried scizor, icrown

glacial crypt
gray karma
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And maybe Thunder Punch on hands so u don't get Recoil Damages

glacial crypt
gray karma
dense quarry
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https://pokepast.es/c639f91c6ef54043

any recos? Aiming for an aggressive build with a little balance thrown in, slither looks amazing in the meta rn, able to threaten hat, cress, rai, deox-s, kyurem, and of course gambit while still doing ~70% at -1 to bulky lando after Tera fire

Im mostly looking for recommendations for the rest of the team, standard sets are due to me not having any experience this format, last OU I played was USUM

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jade cedar
quartz stream
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but it's screens HO so you can get away with that

quartz stream
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trick room is in general worse than twave because it's temporary, but it's a strong surprise pick

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dislike non max speed tusk, you don't outspeed gholdengo and ceruledge so you can't remove on them reliably
+2 252 SpA Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 0 HP / 160 SpD Assault Vest Great Tusk: 345-406 (92.9 - 109.4%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

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also be very careful of ival since nothing on the team outspeeds it and if it's physical it dumpsters everything except moltres who hates taking knock off

quartz stream
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at least you have bulky ghold though which is a great check provided it's not a specs ival with shadow ball (fastest mon on the team is 300 speed great tusk !!!) which basically comes in 2-3 times and instantly wins

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but like if the opp has ival + zama + another strong physical attacker (dnite and cornerpon come to mind) then you might be boned since your team is overall very slow for an offense team (fastest mon is 300 speed great tusk !!!!) with only alo and ghold to beat physical attackers

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oh also another note, this team also mega loses to stall doesn't it, you might want to go black glasses gambit so you can cope you at least have a chance

dense quarry
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Might try an ival of my own ngl

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Maybe over alo to fully lean into the offensive side?

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Then I could swap my tusk for zapdos or smth to keep my types diverse

quartz stream
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the pivot is nice

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maybe AV mola and val over kyurem

dense quarry
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Sounds good, how do I threaten lando/gliscor with these changes tho

quartz stream
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it's gonna be difficult but you have spinner tusk and kingambit tera dark

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tough to build a team with only 5 mons because slither wing can't be counted to do anything

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so you will have some bad matchups

dense quarry
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Wdym?

quartz stream
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at least it has priority

noble hare
noble hare
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but glowking can check ival cuz i did put some defense investment

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if i can get ival to switch out im ok bc pon can outspeed and 99% of the time the tera is on p9n

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actuallt from full glowking wins vs ival bc of def investment, glowking can trick room and then sludge bomb forcing it out or letting me outspeed with pon next time, and if it teras then its forced out by tusk or gambit or pon

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4 Atk Iron Valiant Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 120 Def Slowking-Galar: 184-218 (46.7 - 55.3%) -- 71.1% chance to 2HKO
but 2nd time is ⅔ damage

noble hare
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i xont have goo much of a ghold problem which is why i kept it, and i prefer the bulk bc fast np ghold gets knocked off by pon anyway or 2hkoed by ivy cudgel

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and with max hp it sacrifices speed (tusk outspeeds) or spa (tusk survives{

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quartz stream
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woger and zama can appreciate fire punch to damage corv for ex

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or you just just do a more normal roost or ice spinner

noble hare
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the main issue i have rn is ceruledge so gambits prolly the best against that

lucid onyx
proud herald
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yes i didn't have that much of an idea of what i was doing

sharp bear
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Give me tips for this balance team

noble hare
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also why explosiom garg

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also sleep is banned in ou

sharp bear
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It's old and crappy

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I want some ideas on how to rework it

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All I did was remove sleep and replaced it with focus blast

sharp bear
noble hare
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oh

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protect would be better

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but it could work ig

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if there were one problem mon that explosion beats id say go for it but

noble hare
sharp bear
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Everyone else I think they will do fine

ornate crane
noble hare
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maybe change meta to av mola if you want a bulkier team, or change molt to av mola instead and choose another offensive mon for metagross psogiio

sharp bear
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I'll look for metagross replacements

sharp bear
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I have no form of hazard or speed control on this team lowk

sharp bear
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First balance Hazard spam team

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I feel like theres too much liabilities but what are yalls thoughts

noble hare
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n

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  1. whu avalugg and overqwil
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  1. feels like a like offensive team but glowking and avalugg slapped on
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if you want hstack balance maybe try like

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tusk and gliscor

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or tusk and hamurott with hamurott being more offensive e.g with scarf

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alomomola would also do good, mola glowking is a good core

quartz stream
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replcae avalugg with great tusk for the gambit and bolt and electric matchups

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then overqwil replace with maybe an ogerpon? if you really want an offensive spikes setter

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you don't need toxic spikes on teams like these, so don't be too worried about that

sharp bear
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jade pagoda
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kinda want to fit uturn on scor but can't find slots, is it worth replacing rocks or protect?

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but I feel like replacing protect overloads scor, so maybe lando could be better here

inner terrace
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nah dont replace protect

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i think ghold + pult can be a bit redundant though

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maybe like rocks tran over ghold so you can fit uturn scor

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but then youd prolly want like boots roar zama over krai and knock on samu

limber crystal
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chilly tundra
round portal
gritty lake
inner terrace
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if you want darks then samu over rai and then tera water lando

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av samu

wooden linden
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could prob go lefties gambit

gray karma
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H-Samu in general is goated

jade pagoda
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don't I have a weak ass ghold mu then

boreal dirge
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final relic
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ceru is kinda random here

quartz stream
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delete heatran, change the ting lu to a rocks set

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then you need a gambit answer so try adding a zamazenta

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iron defense body press crunch roar probably

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then you have a nice offense team

boreal dirge
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should I run tera fire or dark?

quartz stream
boreal dirge
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ok

quartz stream
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gl

boreal dirge
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i realized my team has no special attackers and I just got dominated by a ironpress chesnaught

tame surge
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Slotted Terrakion over Zamazenta for Stealth Rock to ensure more kills with Grassy Terrain boosted Leaf Storm

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Taunt to shutdown setup sweepers & stall

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Iron Moth’s Energy Ball is also Grassy Terrain boosted

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Having a spinner for this team isn’t mandatory because there’s only 1 stealth rock weak mon

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Been contemplating booster speed on moth rather than booster special but I’ll have to play more games with the team to decide

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On one hand, booster special’s wall breaking power is vital

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On the other hand, moth’s speed tier leaves a bit to be desired (at least in terms of OU standards)

jade cedar
quartz stream
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especially if it's chipped earlygame setting rocks

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ngl this team feels like an HO with basically no setup

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if ur using a terrain extender rilla, why not add terrain abusers? zama, lucha, grassy seed ghold

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and you can remove the cope low kick from rilla for wood hammer and probably SD over uturn

quartz stream
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the fact a mon is taking rocks damage makes it rocks weak

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unless it actively resists rocks but even then it's probably taking spikes and tspikes

tame surge
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Grassy seed gholdengo??
Never seen that one b4

quartz stream
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it's a really common grassy terrain abuser ye and you already have a ghold so makes sense

tame surge
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Woodhammer over low kick makes sense

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I knew going in that this team lacked a bit of breaking power

quartz stream
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could try the classic tera dark gambit

tame surge
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I tried compensating with loaded dice rock blast but ig iron defense zama is just that good

quartz stream
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but the stall matchup is going to be bad no matter what you try cuz you have a serp and a terrain extender rilla

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and iron moth, those 3 are never doing anything to stall

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and the ghold doesn't want to be psyshock

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no stall ever loses to zama and definitely not terrakion

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so yeah probably just give up on the stall matchup and if you match into stall try to position around endgame tera dark gambit

boreal dirge
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and also any other fire type that outspeeds zama, which with webs, is almost all of them

jade cedar
tame surge
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  • Swapped Low Kick to Wood Hammer on Rillaboom
  • Swapped Terrakion for Zamazenta
  • Swapped to a defensive Gholdengo set with Grassy Seed
  • Swapped from Tera Fairy to Tera Dark on Kingambit
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(Sorry for double ping, had to edit the link)

jade cedar
tame surge
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What’s tusk doing against booster dgleam from moth
Hell even energy ball is doing a lot of damage under GT

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I haven’t done calcs but I wouldn’t be surprised if GT boosted leaf storm is a OHKO

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Bulky Gholdengo should be able to survive at least one Headlong at full, especially if it’s grassy seed boosted
I could slap dgleam on it as well to better the tusk matchup

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I haven’t tried this new version yet so I’ll just have to see what it does

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Plus, grassy glide

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I’m more concerned about opposing Iron Moth

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Ice spinner + Headlong is dangerous coverage for this team especially now that Gholdengo is lacking the air balloon

jade cedar
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except for like zama

tame surge
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I c what u mean

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Not many safe switch-ins

jade cedar
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and yes you can offensively check just fine, I said to you just have to be careful against it

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just don't like the no ground immunity in general

tame surge
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I mean the only other mon with a ground immunity I would’ve considered is hawlucha but like

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We already have a fighting type in zama

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I tend not to overlap too much unless it’s central to the team’s archetype or whatever

jade cedar
jade cedar
tame surge
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Tbh I’m not really sure
Serperiors speed tier is pretty solid but I guess scarf allows it to out speed a lot more common threats

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The main draw honestly are those grassy terrain boosted leaf storms

jade cedar
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I don't see the point of giga drain

tame surge
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Compounded with the extra speed from scarf and it’s really easy to start steamrolling

tame surge
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I figured “oh I’m already getting grassy terrain recovery why would I need ANOTHER grass stab

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Extra longevity is nice but I usually opt for more coverage

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Especially on a choice Pokémon

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But that’s the default OU set for serp

jade cedar
tame surge
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Yeah so it’s like what’s the point of recovery

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Just go all out

jade cedar
jade cedar
tame surge
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Fukk no 😂

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Dragon pulse all day

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What

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I usually run DP anyways

jade cedar
tame surge
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Hell yeah brother

quartz stream
quartz stream
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the team should mostly be fine though

quartz stream
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but it's HO, the only hazard you really have to respect is webs

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and you have 2 prio mons so you have a shot at least

vague gazelle
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Been working on it for a while, its suprisingly good imo

jade cedar
quartz stream
quartz stream
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the weezing and snorlax seem suspect

vague gazelle
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Snorlax walls most special attackers in the format and revenges fairys and gholdengo, weezing is a beast into ogerpon, great tusk, lando, etc. Currently hovering around 1300-1400elo @quartz stream

jade cedar
vague gazelle
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Considering fire punch over heat crash tho.

quartz stream
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gives you a dragon switchin as well

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I can trust the weezing but not the snorlax

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it has no recovery so it will be easily worn down and then it can't switch in anymore

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also you kinda lose 6-0 to stall

jade cedar
quartz stream
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try AV iron crown with volt switch maybe

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you need a steel type anyways

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oh that gives you no ghost resist though

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av kingambit 🔥

jade cedar
quartz stream
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ig you have enough fake flying resists with the double av that you can get away with no steel

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so lax -> hamurott

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and consider weezing -> geezing

vague gazelle
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Ill give that a try, & weezing has been more consistant for me in testing

jade cedar
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also yeah weezing is just a downgrade of geezing

quartz stream
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basically the only difference between regular and galar is +fairy type

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which is just a buff especially since ur team has no dragon resist

jade cedar
quartz stream
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both can be ground immune

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the ability difference is stench/misty surge

jade cedar
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why sd chomp kinda farms the original team 😭

quartz stream
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but the second advantage of geezing is that people won't do a double take when they see it, because it's OU viable

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so they might overlook that there was no neutralizing gas popup

vague gazelle
quartz stream
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ival and weezing galar are very strong into it though so it's not all perfect

quartz stream
jade cedar
vague gazelle
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Also moltres loves scale shot

quartz stream
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ig some cowards don't use tera dragon but that gives you a totally different problem now that you can't burn it

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moltres is oneshot by scale shot

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it's like a 55% roll to die counting the 90% miss chance

jade cedar
quartz stream
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and if it's tera fire you live but now instead can't touch it back

quartz stream
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the triple status double hex is worth a shot

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if you find that everything is always statused, yeah change twave on pult to uturn or whatever

vague gazelle
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Ill give the av hamurott a try over lax

quartz stream
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bless

jade cedar
quartz stream
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and galar weezing is a direct upgrade to regular so try that too

vague gazelle
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Ty for the feedback 👍 👍

quartz stream
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yea 🙏

jade cedar
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broken lark
limber spear
broken lark
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Anyone I could replace Weavile with?

limber spear
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doubles goes to doubles rate gmcat

limber spear
broken lark
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Who would be good at hazard removal for my team?

limber spear
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if u want to go fat h stack

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then it’s like either elephant or bolts

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boots

broken lark
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K, thanks

storm escarp
rapid sable
quartz stream
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also you have no ghost resist only tera normal, ceru could be a problem

gritty lake
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quartz stream
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you have a deo, a zama, a moth, a goltres, and power herb glimm

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but then it's not screens

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go screens deo here over skill swap and spikes

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and you can change red card and taunt for eject psycho boost maybe

gritty lake
quartz stream
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just use deoxys for screens