Thats fair tbh
Thanks for your time!
Have a good day
#UM Rates
icy bane
empty ocean
If you really really really don’t want to use legendaries but still wanna play this tier… you could play fullpass teams.
Basically a team that stacks boosts and passes it to other mons, with various support from magic bouncers and ultimately passed to a power trip / stored power user to become unstoppable
I couldn’t find the replay link but the room link I hope still works.
It’s matchup fish but good enough to consider for tournaments… sometimes.
Not the most honest strategy nor is it something good to use for learning how to be good but it’s something.
tulip sinew
we all love ag
covert owl
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lime falcon
i think you forgot your koraidon evs
covert owl
oh yes
lime falcon
anyway that stellar caly set fell out of favor a long time ago
covert owl
should be ada
lime falcon
HO doesn't have scarfers or ho-oh
covert owl
oh
lime falcon
or boots on anything most of the time
HO also usually needs a suicide lead
something like a glimm or a ribombee
lime falcon
double korai balance / bo is feasible if the double korais are what you're really going for
yeah
lime falcon
in that case you need to thing about your switchins to opposing koraidon and miraidon
stuff like defensive ho-oh or fairyceus or waterceus and a tinglu
covert owl
do i get rid if zac then
lime falcon
probably
a simple way to convert to BO would be to go like
scarf korai / scale shot korai / encore grass caly / tinglu / physdef ho-oh / ekiller
lime falcon
idk
your call
you can run whatever feels best tbh
i personally don't really like sub iron head koraidon on most teams and it's probably not strictly necessary here but by the same token it'll probably work
lime falcon
caly should probably be grass
lime falcon
i think you need a secondary caly check
tinglu and offensive ho-oh just are not going to cut it for that
if you drop offensive ho-oh for a bulky ekiller of some sort that would probably work reasonably well
lime falcon
yeah
not like those stupid foul play sets just a normal sd / bu set with a lot of bulk
lime falcon
bulk up
covert owl
ok
covert owl
what will be my hooh counter/check for this team
lime falcon
fairy
lime falcon
blow it up with your korais
dire swift
Nope
covert owl
what if they para 5 times in a row
tera fire
wait
they did 58
oh wait
why does recover have 8 pp
lime falcon
it got nerfed
dire swift
That got changed in gen 9
^
I personally think that 16pp was balanced
But oh well
Here we are
@covert owl if you want a way to punish ekiller on that team run encore caly
Over psychic
You encore the ekiller in to espeed
And win
Well not actually bit you do get a free nasty plot
Which is just as cool
covert owl
<@1130401275272495204> if you want a way to punish ekiller on that team run enco...
i ran it
its a end game
i prob blundered 4 times or 5
covert owl
i smh totally forgot about scared fire
and i stared at the brave bird calc and i was like ok what can they do to me
barren turret
https://pokepast.es/7a8064f23b3605d0
I love this reverse sweep koraidon set.
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barren turret
Close combat was endure
lime falcon
koraidon when the fairyceus just clicks willo:
empty ocean
https://pokepast.es/7a8064f23b3605d0
I love this reverse sweep koraidon set.
This caly set when ting lu:
Unviable sets through and through
craggy oyster
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this looks passable
i don't really like the zac set
I can see that it's attempting to remedy the otherwise crippling inability to stallbreak
but it doesn't stallbreak very well and frankly misses out on a lot of other important zac things
I'm not sure that you can really fit both gira and lando
they're both fairly short-lived mons that usually fit better on more offensive teams where their lack of longevity isn't a big deal
but this looks like it's a lot slower
small heath
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fossil knot
you do not defeat volcanion
or meowscarada
luna mirror also bad
prob more cant check rn
think abt what u want to keep
and redo hitlist
@small heath
small heath
Ok ty
Luna loses to corv
But the other stuff is a problem
I don’t like ursa on this
fossil knot
Luna loses to corv
this corv set doesntwin
you need iron defense to be consistent
just run maranga
also you're using the old luna set
we are updating it rn but the setcomp is a resource u can use for sets
small heath
Ok
sage sigil
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noble cosmos
generally in uubers garchomp should be used as a hazard/utility mon, not a sweeper, arc ice needs recover and the magearna set feels weird, you'd prolly have more success with double dance + draining kiss and stored power, instead of chomp you could go something like dragonite
rustic apex
generally in uubers garchomp should be used as a hazard/utility mon, not a sweep...
Nah that mag set has historical basis it was cooking uuberpl guys last year
Don’t use chomp tho
Btw is there a way to be removed from rating
Also sword hasn’t played uubers at a high level in a year or so atp
Best to ask in the discord for rates these days
@ staff tho if y’all wanna keep uubers rates going in here I’d ask Celeste and Frito if they’d be willing
lime falcon
Btw is there a way to be removed from rating
probably just ask in is
noble cosmos
how do you get it such that you do get pinge
lime falcon
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Also sword hasn’t played uubers at a high level in a year or so atp
yeah yall should mayb remove me
i agree with sheep but i think magearna tera ground has some value
surely draining kiss > fleur cannon tho still
i am planning in locking hack in tho, the redemption is coming
crystal trench
https://pokepast.es/b4e6750ec617f95a
Some notes:
Hamu lead is fine, I would just change aqua cutter to razor shell for the defense drops
Chomp is a good mon, If you are open I would consider also looking at Dragonite here, DD Espeed Eq Dragon move is a pretty excellent combination of tools in the current meta, so its worth considering.
That magearna set has a lot of merit for sure, i think i twas better when magearna as a defensive piece was more common as well as arc poison, I would definately recommend dkiss > fleur as has been mentioned since you likely are not breaking lugia anyways
Arceus is always great, I would just swap Tbolt for Recover, and then be tera ground or fairy. As good as bolt beam is, you can still manage the waters in the tier fine without it on a set like this.
Good m2, you can consider life orb if you want to run three attacks but this will likely work as well
and Good rm!
I think spikes offense is far from the best its been in the tier lately but this is still a good iteration
crystal trench
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barren turret
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noble cosmos
I think you should go for a life orb calm mind miraidon set, as well as recover over ice beam on groundceus and stun spore on ribombee
lime falcon
@barren turret id love to know why you changed this sample team
the sample teams are sample teams for a reason lol
you took a perfectly fine sample team and made it dramatically worse by changing sets
barren turret
I try to make it more offensive
lime falcon
but it's already a hyper offense team
barren turret
I doesn’t good at building anything goes team
lime falcon
so why did you change it lol
all your changes just made it worse
normalceus needs to be mental herb to avoid losing to encore calyrex-s
which is a very common set
barren turret
Ok
lime falcon
miraidon should not be speccs because specs miraidon is a massive momentum sink
basically one of the fundamental concepts of HO teams is that you cannot afford to give the opponent free turns
choice-locked mons, like specs miraidon, give up free turns in droves
lime falcon
I think you should go for a life orb calm mind miraidon set, as well as recover ...
fwiw the bee and groundy sets are unchanged from the sample and are probably fine
I'm not going to pretend to really like them but they work well enough
noble cosmos
fwiw the bee and groundy sets are unchanged from the sample and are probably fin...
yea makes sense
barren turret
Ok I will change back to a original sample then
lime falcon
like there's nothing wrong with riffing on samples and modifying them
but changing a couple sets and then coming here and asking for a rate is just a waste of everyone's time
last maple
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grim plinth
I'm working on a harvest custap berry trevenant with d-bond endure. Idea is pretty straightforward but Idk how to support it without drought, and helpful synergies would be nice. The team is obviously meant to be HO, all advice is welcome. Things of note: no hazard removal yet, don't judge minior EVs, no prankster switch in/counter, a bit lacking spatk wise, maybe flash cannon on vikavolt or i-head on minior, basically anything to take advantage of steely spirit, thinking abt bullet punch rapid spin hitmon___. https://pokepast.es/e83ef43c91d32d9b
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spring canyon
https://pokepast.es/fbb8c1d174a21e59 tryna see if my team is any good
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and what is the rationale behind the ekiller set?
wha..?
lime falcon
why is ekiller tera electric
what is that meant to do
overall this looks close to being ok but i think if you replace ndm with a physdef fairyceus and switch ekiller to boots tera fire you'll end up with a pretty solid team
I also think you'll get more mileage out of a different tera on zac (probably electric or fire) and possibly dropping one of behemoth or wild charge for close combat
also mirai should drop dgleam for taunt and taunt 3a korai is just bad so you'll get more from swords dance scale shot low kick flare blitz with tera fire or ghost
spring canyon
alr
misty mango
https://pokepast.es/0e2b8fef1d14a85e
A team I made for my Ultra Sun playthrough. I know this is overkill for the single player campaign but building teams is where I have fun, so the goal is to create a team that could theoretically take on anything. Playing on an emulator so I went kinda crazy with pokemon I like.
https://pokepast.es/359b808c36b81a96
After stress testing in showdown though, I found nidoking to be a little lacking (probably cause the only tier that showdown would let me battle randoms on with this team was national dex ubers, and people bring full teams of legendaries there), so I switched out nidoking for primal groudon and made some slight modifications.
Please rate these in terms of gen 7 anything goes. Further suggestions are appreciated as well.
empty ocean
https://pokepast.es/0e2b8fef1d14a85e
A team I made for my Ultra Sun playthrough....
You don’t want two Z users here.
Or well, you can but I’m not a fan of it.
But anyways a sample team should do you better
misty mango
But anyways a sample team should do you better
What do you mean by “sample team”?
If you’re saying my teams are not good, any specific reasons why?
burnt swift
What do you mean by “sample team”?
Sample teams are just teams made by strong players that cover a variety of styles while being proven to be good
They tend to be a good introduction to the tier
4/6 on your team is completely fine, maybe change a few small things on the sets but mega ray marshadow ndm pdon is a good core
The problem comes with greninja and ninetales being unviable
If you look at the last sample team in the sm ag section it has those 4 good mons + darkceus and fairyceus, which have the same typings as gren and ninetales but are just infinitely better in the meta
You’re not too far off where you started but the main thing is just that sm ag is so high power you really can’t afford even some ou level mons like greninja, but your core idea isn’t bad
misty mango
<https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ag-old-gens-hub.3718501/#post-9552572>
https://pokepast.es/d1fbc95d525f3fec
Alright, I tweaked my team a little after looking at those sample teams, and now I need some feedback on it excluding the two underpowered pokemon; although I am trying to make a powerful overkill team which is why I'm building in terms of AG, at the end of the day this is still an in-game team, and I'd like to avoid save editing in too many event pokemon (double arceus in an ultra sun save file just doesn't seem too realistic lol).
I'm mainly concerned about rayquaza's moveset and item, groudon's ev spreads, and the fact that I have 2 z move users on my team.
- Although I see choice items recommended a lot for rayquaza, I'm also thinking of utility with this team, so I don't really like the idea of being stuck using one move. Which is why I went with a weakness policy, but I'm open to changing my mind if someone can convince me of the benefits of a choice item being worth it despite the drawback. As for its moves, I've been told it's pretty bad. The only 'bad' part of its moveset that I can see is that it has a coverage move instead of dragon dance. I think earthquake is pretty useful on rayquaza, but since I have groudon for ground type coverage, I'm willing to go with dragon dance instead if it's really worth having. And I don't want to use v-create since that's another pokemon I'll have to save edit in (would like to minimize that).
- I deviated a little from the sample team here, so I'd like to know if this is an okay ev spread or not.
- I don't think this is too much of an issue, since ultranecrozium z isn't just for z-moves but also for allowing ndm to transform into ultra necrozma. But I've been told this is sub-optimal so I'd like to know if it really is.
Any other feedback besides those regarding my concerns would also be appreciated.
empty ocean
https://pokepast.es/d1fbc95d525f3fec
Alright, I tweaked my team a little after l...
A9 is bad
Greninja is also bad
Also Z marsh wants bulk up over thunder punch
Rayquaza isn’t bulky enough to take super effective attacks so wp is bad on it
Just use life orb or sth
Also why are you using brave necrozma
Jolly is better, and ultra wants earthquake for steel types and primal groudon
The main use of ultra is supposed to be able to one tap pdon after a single sd
Just go use shuckle webs lol, it’s the easiest one to build with only a single arceus
muted verge
Alright guys, I’d appreciate a little help because I have ZERO idea of what I’m doing. I’m doing a BDSP tournament between friends, there’s a lot of money on the line here. I came up with this team last month and I’ve been working on beating the game then breeding and training. I can’t ask my friends for help so I’ve come to the internet. Any suggestions would be welcome. Especially if you have any alternatives for the held items, I don’t think they’ll let me use leftovers multiple times. We don’t have any rules set up, but I only have 10 days left to prep. Thanks again in advance.
Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Scald
-Protect
Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
-Wish
-Protect
-Toxic
-Seismic Toss
Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
-Defog
-Roost
-Brave Bird
-Whirlwind
Garchomp @ Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake
-Outrage
-Stone Edge
Rotom-Wash @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
-Hydro Pump
-Volt Switch
-Thunderbolt
-Trick
Breloom @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
-Spore
-Bullet Seed
-Mach Punch
-Stone Edge
honest egret
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flint thunder
https://pokepast.es/84cb35b3e7fab0a2 good for a starter?
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drifting urchin
https://pokepast.es/7f1367bc4e2b4468 is my team good
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lime falcon
you forgot your mirai in
having to tera hooh to have a mirai in (and losing your fire / fighting resist in the process!) just isn’t it lol
drifting urchin
you forgot your mirai in
uh what
crystal trench
https://pokepast.es/84cb35b3e7fab0a2 good for a starter?
There are some good pieces here, sun is definately in a good spot right now! A few immediate things,
Ninetales > torkoal right now, i know dropping the hazard control on your lead sucks but the option for Healing Wish and encore lets you set up your pokemon a lot better
You don't have an arceus, which would probably be really helpful on this team since the stats are generally quite helpful. I think wake is a better special attacker then Chi-Yu on a sun team, so you could probably stand to drop it for an E-Killer set, pick your favourite of Arc Poison/Arc-Grass and pop on SD Espeed Eq and Recover
I like the rm, but you can't guarantee the sash popping so its probably best to opt for your attacking moves being Knock, EQ, and Outrage with your choice of tera that offensively boosts either. You can go Lum berry on this i think
CB Gouging is cool, i'd rather go all in on your physical attack and go adamant here.
Similar thing with tusk, i'd just go tera dark to help you have ensurance vs Mewtwo and Deoxys. Change EQ for headlong and Ice spinner for rapid spin if you are gonna be booster attack
drifting urchin
you dont have a mirai switch in (like ting lu)
i used to run that but changed cuz ive been gettin too many people that run double hazard setters
lime falcon
i used to run that but changed cuz ive been gettin too many people that run doub...
Tinglu is pretty important you should probably keep it
Besides, you can just switch it out
It’s not meant to be a suicide lead—you actually always want to lead with something else vs those dual lead HO teams
flint thunder
https://pokepast.es/c3304161d716d2c7 my first actual serious team, it feels like a flop 😭
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jaunty kernel
Replace Necrozma with Ting-Lu and then the team becomes fairly usable
I’d make caly HDB instead as well
I’d make korai Tera Fire or dragon as well
Also Calyrex replace taunt with encore
@flint thunder
You can make the caly tera normal if you want for opposing scarf caly or EKiller too
flint thunder
Replace Necrozma with Ting-Lu and then the team becomes fairly usable
let me guess it's for miraidon 😭 tinglu is the only thing that has a chance on walling it, if it doesn't have dazzling gleam
jaunty kernel
It’s moreso for Calyrex since your team struggles handling it defensively if it gets the opportunity to setup with webs
But your team is also pretty Miraidon weak since your answer is Ho-oh
You also really just want a hazards mon
flint thunder
ok then, btw what are the mons I should be worried about?
flint thunder
You also really just want a hazards mon
also what set I should use for tinglu?
jaunty kernel
EQ Payback Stealth Rocks or Spikes and Whirlwind
You can run ruin over payback if you want
jaunty kernel
ok then, btw what are the mons I should be worried about?
Just be careful of not letting your ting Lu get chipped too much
Since your main weaknesses are going to be Mirai and caly
flint thunder
okay then thx for the help
flint thunder
https://pokepast.es/c4805f346d692f67 is this good?
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empty ocean
https://pokepast.es/c4805f346d692f67 is this good?
No stab arceus is something
crystal trench
https://pokepast.es/c4805f346d692f67 is this good?
yes it is! i'd just swap iron defense for agility on magearna, and make sure you are running enough speed to outspeed deoxys at +2 which is 216 evs
crystal trench
No stab arceus is something
stabless arc is common for the ekiller sets, since you need to drop recover to make it worthwhile
you saw it more with arc elec running supercell espeed recover, but thats gone now so
flint thunder
yes it is! i'd just swap iron defense for agility on magearna, and make sure you...
sry took long to respond I thought that with iron defence+calm mind stacking up would build a tank that can regain it's health with draining kiss and do massive damage with stored power
flint thunder
https://pokepast.es/d0803bc98456db72 feels like a flop for some reason
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clever remnant
https://pokepast.es/01f6051c47c501c9 first time making a team in general. its just for gen9anything goes. i wanted to build around the snow
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frosty timber
https://pokepast.es/01f6051c47c501c9 first time making a team in general. its ju...
Weather teams in general arent viable, and most of those mons arent viable to begin with
crystal trench
https://pokepast.es/d0803bc98456db72 feels like a flop for some reason
ah i totally forgot to respond to this, the structure is very good, you may want to consider swapping cc on tusk for ice spinner and focus blast on lando for taunt, but this looks good
flint thunder
ah i totally forgot to respond to this, the structure is very good, you may want...
no worries, also is there any mons or archetypes I should be worried about in this team?
crystal trench
ho is always the worry esp with the minimal priority you have. If you find you are struggling into hyper offense of any kind my first suggestion would be drop shifu for palafin, either banded w/ close combat or mystic water with flip turn wave crash jet punch and encore
banded can be 252 adamant with a lot of hp invest and some speed, but encore you can run a lot more speed
both should be tera water
flint thunder
ho is always the worry esp with the minimal priority you have. If you find you ...
ok then thx, btw are the teras good? I feel some are overlapping
crystal trench
they look good, you cover all the main bases
flint thunder
they look good, you cover all the main bases
okay then, again thx for the help 🙏 have a good day
crystal trench
okay then, again thx for the help 🙏 have a good day
you too!
covert owl
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covert owl
how does this look
lime falcon
bad
basculegion is an unviable shitmon lol
there are no contexts in which basc is justifiable in ag because pretty much every team has a normalceus
I can see what you're going for here with twave fairy to make basc's life slightly easier but this just looks janky since it's so reliant on rain staying up
something that you cannot rely on in this koraidon-infested meta
dire swift
yeah as geysers is saying it is hard to make rain work when koraidon is everywhere
Honestly that team wouldn't actually be too bad if you just replaced basculegion with koraidon
oh wait I just realized that is a sample team with basculegion over kora and with damp rock kyogre
yeah I would suggest just going back to the original sample team, rain is incredibly hard to make work in ag
flint thunder
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lime falcon
specs mirai shouldn't go on webs
it's a giant momentum sink
webs, like all other HO structures, is highly reliant on maintaining momentum and not giving away free setup turns, something that specs mirai does constantly
lime falcon
what is tera ground meant to do on bee?
it seems useless - usually you want steel to block mortal spin, dark to block prankster taunt, or ghost to block rapid spin
flint thunder
specs mirai shouldn't go on webs
sry took long to respond ye I did notice the mira's set was really unrelient, also the tera for ribombee was mostly bc of mira's leads, I don't know if it's even a thing or uncommon but I've been through 10 battles testing it 7 of those had mira and always lead with it
azure osprey
sry took long to respond ye I did notice the mira's set was really unrelient, al...
If you want to lead bee and use webs, scarf bee is a good consideration. Here's my favorite AG bee set.
Tera Ghost could be Tera Steel
Psychic Noise for Clod/Glim. Moonblast for cheap stab.
Stall also doesn't enjoy being tricked a scarf.
Ability: Shield Dust
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psychic Noise
- Sticky Web
- Switcheroo
- Moonblast```
Kingambit is *meh* in my experience. Encore Calyrex is on half the recommended sets on Smogon, making it common enough to consider. In a 1v1 last mon situation if you sucker or SD you just lose.
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/calyrex-shadow/ag/
This team is also incredibly weak to a few ho-oh sets.
I would personally swap that gambit out for another Arceus. Take your pick, water, fairy, ground, Probably a semi-bulky one. Slap a few SpAtk EVs and Power Gem on whatever set you decide.
Let us know how your team performed before and after the changes! I'd love to track your progress!it's hawt
lime falcon
scarf trick bee is ok but it's not good and definitely not something that you should be using on ladder
in any case the canonical scarf bee set is webs / trick / moonblast / stun spore
gambit's fine here
azure osprey
Certainly not good, but if you're hell bent on using bee, and concerned about Miraidon, it gets the job done for whatever role he envisioned the bee accomplishing.
lime falcon
who cares, don't run it on ladder
trust me I'm as big of a scarf bee enjoyer as you'll find anywhere but it's not splashable
the change to make is to switch ekiller to mental herb
that will handle encore caly
azure osprey
My Scarf Bee team can only get like 1650 on the ladder, so there's that xD
lime falcon
also the only cm arc that should ever be run on HO is groundy
frankly, that's probably just about the only cm arc you should be running period outside of some weird double dance fairy sets
empty ocean
Idcm fairy mentioned ❤️
flint thunder
https://pokepast.es/89bf8e7c22670a33 this feels bad 😭
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drifting urchin
If you want to lead bee and use webs, scarf bee is a good consideration. Here's ...
Scarfed bee caught me off guard so many time😭
lime falcon
again it's a perfectly fine set but for ladder play there's no real reason to use it over normal bee
drifting urchin
again it's a perfectly fine set but for ladder play there's no real reason to us...
yeah skill swap bee is just better
crystal trench
https://pokepast.es/89bf8e7c22670a33 this feels bad 😭
Webs are admittedly in a weird spot rn
big thing is how popular the elephants are
idt this team has the means to keep the webs up, which tbf most teams cannot do rn
Chi yu is a good meta call for webs, i think you should consider using a sweeper set > specs tho
Flame charge plot fire blast dark pulse w/ air baloon and tera ghost lets it check most elephant sets effectively
Palafin may not be the best pick since it has big potential to lose momentum here
maybe rm is a good one
dd acro is super strong rn and then its a good way to force tera on things like Lugia and defensive stuff you want the rest of the team to be taking advantage of
Arc poison is always good, i'd just not do E-Killer since you lack some breaking power, DD or SD with 3 attacks (add Gunk > recover) will work well imo
i like the lando a lot
and I think kyurem is fine, but a DD set is probably more effective (with loaded dice) and at that point i'd probably go a baxcalibur
DD still, scale shot icicle spear EQ
tera ground
webs are hard to build rn so i think this is a solid attempt
oh also consider araq as a lead since you offensively threaten the removal
flint thunder
Flame charge plot fire blast dark pulse w/ air baloon and tera ghost lets it che...
do you have specfic set
crystal trench
Chi-Yu @ Air Balloon
Ability: Beads of Ruin
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Flame Charge
- Fire Blast
- Dark Pulse
this is the version i like
flint thunder
and I think kyurem is fine, but a DD set is probably more effective (with loaded...
idk, I don't want to overlap on physical attackers especially with what you suggested most of the team will be setup sweepers, I'd like to have at least one mon that can be threating instantly
crystal trench
idk, I don't want to overlap on physical attackers especially with what you sugg...
running gunk on arc will help with that a lot
since both it and landorus will have a lot of immediate pressure
chi yu fire blast also threatens a lot with or without boosts
webs kind of necessitates being really greedy with setup mons
flint thunder
since both it and landorus will have a lot of immediate pressure
not sure if this is ideal but I REALLY don't want to use low acc moves, like seriously rng would decide most of my battles and I have a bad one
crystal trench
with physical arc you almost always need that
so maybe whats better for you is a CM arceus w/ a Dragonite somewhere
since dragonites appeal is getting easy setup turns
flint thunder
so maybe whats better for you is a CM arceus w/ a Dragonite somewhere
I guess I'll test, anyways this is the final result https://pokepast.es/a9dee5a2c10dc72f (edited it since i forget the chi yu set)
crystal trench
looks good, best of luck 😄
webs are hard so dont feel bad if it doesnt work out rn haha
but it needs experimentation rn
flint thunder
looks good, best of luck 😄
okay then thx for the help, would look forward to your help 👍
flint thunder
https://pokepast.es/4c28ad8e2248b880 is this good?
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lean holly
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lean holly
It’s my first time building a team, I got a bit lost with the EVs, and I’d like some help with them. I also want to know if this team has good synergy
lime falcon
ferro doesn't exist in gen 9
please at least try validating a team before you ask for a rate :/
azure osprey
ferro doesn't exist in gen 9
👆
flint thunder
https://pokepast.es/4c28ad8e2248b880 is this good?
five days and still nothing...😭
@crystal trench
rancid wing
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rancid wing
RBY ZU, I'm trying to proc para as much as possible.
https://teams.pokemonshowdown.com/view/1505196
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rancid wing
Dude the RBY server has like four guys who care about ZU and theres so little people to get advice from other than buttgallon what am i supposed to do
lime falcon
i think you're supposed to not play rby zu
there are some tiers that are just like that lol like nobody plays adv ag
rancid wing
It's fun when you get to actually queue though
Like on the rare occasion I am able to play I have a good time
But the only person I have contact with to play it with consistently is one of the top 50 players
so i always get steamrolled
crystal trench
five days and still nothing...😭
ahh im sorry! been a super busy week for school so since im the only one i must have missed this
😅
this does look pretty good tho
main things id suggest tweaking are some tera types rlly
flint thunder
ahh im sorry! been a super busy week for school so since im the only one i must ...
it's fine, I kinda forget about it not gonna lie got busy too
crystal trench
Steel on tusk has its merit but it notably makes you lose the tusk mirror a lot easier, since you dont have spinblocking i would probably lean towards ghost on this
water is good on both zama and magearna, but they do overlap in what water is checking so I would pick one that you would rather be flying to be better into DD EQ arceus forms/tusk
lastly steel is fine on the lando, but I think you want some more anti-setup tools on this team so id probably drop sludge wave for taunt
flint thunder
water is good on both zama and magearna, but they do overlap in what water is ch...
probably magearna bc its less physically tanky so it's more likely the one to die to EKiller or physicak arceus
@crystal trench also btw, mind I talked to you on dms kinda need help with something that isn't team help
crystal trench
go ahead
flint thunder
https://pokepast.es/c9e1ee85d18f4a98 feels like a mess
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meager wadi
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meager wadi
i cant use tera , ag
lime falcon
this won't be viable
I don't play natdex ag but this is going to be terrible because it's a meta with primal mons that will reset weather and make rain teams worthless
meager wadi
got any ideas maybe?
lime falcon
also it just gets shredded by revivecats
yeah throw it out and go play a different tier
ndag is a hellhole and nobody plays it seriously
if you just want to mess around and have fun that's fine but also you won't get serious games so there's no point really trying to improve your team
meager wadi
k ty
flint thunder
https://pokepast.es/bcf06490fad9e399 is this good?
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lime falcon
this likely won't be viable
I don't play ndag but this is just going to get cut to ribbons by revivecats and other cheese
my recommendation to fix it is to throw it out and go play a different tier
nobody plays ndag seriously
unless everyone's favorite ndag player @obsidian wind is interested in chiming in .-.
honest egret
Just a note that it'd be most likely easier to get feedback for NDAG stuff in https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1060037469472555028
sage sigil
why are we using regular ray over mega 😭
flint thunder
why are we using regular ray over mega 😭
it is supposed to be mega ray, thought you needed to use the move dragon ascent first for it to mega
gloomy stone
https://pokepast.es/db06e2d56172c43a i built this team and its won a decent amount, i just wanna know what type of changes i should make, i'm not super competitive usually but i wanted to try it out, any ideas? :>
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lime falcon
mew, sneasler, cinderace, and ceruledge are all shitmons
charred sorrel
How do I remove myself
lime falcon
https://pokepast.es/db06e2d56172c43a i built this team and its won a decent amou...
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ag-sample-teams-dlc-2.3727176/
we have some sample teams here if you want to get an idea of what good teams in ag look like
flint thunder
https://pokepast.es/1a64a55be6bc28f2 wanted to try using this chien pao tech my friend show me
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honest egret
As you've been told previously, NDBH is a https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1060037469472555028 thing
flint thunder
As you've been told previously, NDBH is a https://discord.com/channels/192713314...
a little tooo late for that but thx nonetheless
latent scroll
https://pokepast.es/528aace4e2ecfcaf
I wanted to help to know if this team is okay.
I wanted to add a mythical Pokémon to it and I believe the best option is replacing Zoroark. The mythical Pokémon I have in mind are Magearna and Marshadow (but if you have a better one, that's fine too).
And also, I wanted to know which Pokémon I should use with the tera type.
I'm thinking of adding Magearna and, instead of Zacian, adding Miraidon (I can only use 1 legendary).
honest egret
Can you clarify for what tier is this for? This certainly is not an UM as this'd only be legal in some National Dex metagame
Wait, "1 legendary"...
!nolegends
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latent scroll
Wait, "1 legendary"...
Oh, sorry. I thought I could ask for help assembling my team here.
latent scroll
What's the best moveset for Miraidon?
honest egret
Talks about specific sets would be more of a #comp-general topic
latent scroll
Talks about specific sets would be more of a <#393435165243867150> topic
OK thanks
bitter plinth
https://pokepast.es/c3006e2e1abd368e hows this?
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fossil knot
we only have 3 raters
buh
@bitter plinth ill do this tmr ping me if i havent by tmr
bitter plinth
<@1138974143203770520> ill do this tmr ping me if i havent by tmr
ok
fossil knot
bleh i forgot
ok herb moth is bad
u want ice shard on pao for pult idealy ada but u also need to beat spect
u lose to shifus
lose to hax
woger is among us
esp when ur mod moth
what do u want to keep @bitter plinth
woeful radish
Calyrex-Shadow @ Focus Sash
Ability: As One (Spectrier)
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Astral Barrage
- Grass Knot
- Psychic
Miraidon @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Hadron Engine
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Electro Drift
- U-turn
- Taunt
Zacian-Crowned @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Intrepid Sword
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Play Rough
- Wild Charge
- Crunch
Espathra @ Focus Sash
Ability: Speed Boost
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 152 HP / 244 Def / 112 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Protect
- Baton Pass
- Roost
Kyogre @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Water Spout
- Origin Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Koraidon @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Orichalcum Pulse
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Scale Shot
- Flare Blitz
- Low Kick
- Swords Dance
rate?
fringe totem
Calyrex-Shadow @ Focus Sash
Ability: As One (Spectrier)
Tera Type: Normal
...
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fringe totem
please take a quick look at this as it makes it easier for the raters to format and understand your team
woeful radish
please take a quick look at this as it makes it easier for the raters to format ...
thanks
fringe totem
New [Gen 9] Anything Goes RMT @lime falcon @burnt swift @dire swift @charred sorrel
noble cosmos
http://teams.pokemonshowdown.com/view/1595799-ggv9g7dl9ehx74koclh1
rate?
espathra is very out of place just unusable outside of full baton pass, sometihng like glimmora or deoxys would work better as a dedicated lead
dire swift
Yeah I agree with sheepie here
I espathra really doesn't make that much sense on this team and whirlwind ting lu and ho oh makes it too easy for a team to deny a baton pass
so I think you probably would want glimm as a dedicated lead here
I am not a big fan of pivot miraidon on hyper offense
so I would run some kind of double dance set
instead
fringe totem
!arbitraryformats
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lime falcon
nothing here is viable
check out the sample teams to get a good idea of what the ag meta looks like
leaden yoke
nothing here is viable
nothing at all?
atomic finch
nothing at all?
on ubers eternatus is viable i believe? i am not sure on national dex ubers but it is at sv ubers
leaden yoke
dragapult is viable no?
atomic finch
dragapult is viable no?
no not really. outclassed by giratina, adn that pokemon already bad
lime falcon
on ubers eternatus is viable i believe? i am not sure on national dex ubers but ...
this is an ag team
lime falcon
nothing at all?
eternatus is usable but not this set and only on some specific types of balance teams
atomic finch
this is an ag team
well i mean he can just play there
lime falcon
that's not how this works
atomic finch
fair enough
lime falcon
if someone posts a team I'm not going to say "go play this other tier"
in any case this team would be just as shitty in ubers as in ag
blaziken et al are not magically better there
atomic finch
true but eternatus would be better there, or so i thought.
lime falcon
that doesn't matter
atomic finch
anyways just.. never realized that, my bad
lime falcon
one mon being better does not a good team make
atomic finch
one mon being better does not a good team make
kay
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strange sun
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slate nova
So, uh, I kind of tried. I found a bit that, personally, Arceus Ground didn't work great; that's why I kind of swapped it with, like, Ribombee, which was quite useful. Maybe it's eccentric to have it like that and, like, 2 support pokemon, but still, I want to know what maybe would be better instead. https://pokepast.es/388f9d5382bd1503
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dire swift
honestly that team doesn't look too bad
I am personally a massive fan of dual suicide lead offense, however I would probably replace deoxys speed with glimmora
slate nova
hm ic may i ask why?
dire swift
glimm tends to pair better with ribombee
slate nova
glimm tends to pair better with ribombee
ahh ic
slate nova
Okay wow the amount of damage dealt by hazards is insane lol
It's funny how not many people have removal for them
empty ocean
It's funny how not many people have removal for them
cuz removal options suck
giratina is niche at best and even that is because it HAS removal
treads is fringe at best
pagos is fringe too
or niche but honestly not that bad
slate nova
ic
empty ocean
pagos is a shitmon
Treads is the shitmon pagos is the niche
Pagos at least has a thing called hazard removal +caly check
Even has use in Ubers, no reason to see why it won’t do any better in a tier where there is an extra ghost type that it deals with pretty nicely
lime falcon
pagos is terrible
using a strikethrough on that stuff doesn't make it somehow unserious lol
treads has more secondary utility as a miraidon check and knock user than pagos has as a terrible caly check
yes, terapagos is, on paper, sorta usable. Yes, it does get used occasionally, sometimes by good players! No, it is not somehow better than treads
arguably treads anchors a reasonably common BO structure where it is used alongside offensive mons that appreciate its hazard control (think lo mirai, specs caly, mherb ekiller, etc)
but please if you don’t know what you’re talking about (as you clearly do not), don’t try to help with people’s teams
lime falcon
~~Even has use in Ubers, no reason to see why it won’t do any better in a tier w...
This is a common misconception (namely, that <mon> should be good in ag because it has use in ubers and on paper checks <threat>) but in reality the reason it works in ubers is chiefly because the teambuilding environment is much less constrained than ag so such one-dimensional mons are easier to work in and support properly
earnest hawk
Im using
the ribombee webs ho sample team
is it ok to remove calm mind fo recover
lime falcon
no!
if you remove calm mind you just become setup fodder for all sorts of stuff
the extra longevity is useless since you just get set up on and lose
dire swift
if you want to replace a move for recover on the sample replace ice beam
earnest hawk
if you remove calm mind you just become setup fodder for all sorts of stuff
Oh I see
earnest hawk
if you want to replace a move for recover on the sample replace ice beam
guess il keep ice beam and not use recover
tropic cosmos
https://pokepast.es/bfbf2e3e7f1c55fd Good? Bad? TBH I am trying to team build to beat my friends in 6v6 singles on a Cobblemon server with Pokemon that are readily available
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honest egret
!cobblemon
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azure osprey
https://pokepast.es/bfbf2e3e7f1c55fd Good? Bad? TBH I am trying to team build to...
You borderline auto lose to mixed ice and electric coverage (good old bolt beam). Idk what cobblemon is.
tropic cosmos
You borderline auto lose to mixed ice and electric coverage (good old bolt beam)...
Cobblemon is Minecraft Pokemon
azure osprey
Oh... either way. Special attacker with bolt beam, or freeze dry and you're in trouble.
azure osprey
I don't know anything about whatever that is. Sorry.
tropic cosmos
It's pretty much just normal Pokemon if that is what you are talking about
lime falcon
please read the rules
they specifically enjoin asking for help with minecraft mods lol
@azure osprey this goes for you too lol
azure osprey
Feel free to make a gen9ag team and ladder with it! Plenty of help to be had there
tropic cosmos
Damn okay, I forgot to read the second half of the rules when I joined 😂
azure osprey
<@649448857960448025> this goes for you too lol
?
lime falcon
providing feedback encourages them to ignore said rules and keep asking lol
azure osprey
providing feedback encourages them to ignore said rules and keep asking lol
🫂
Btw @lime falcon I'm still trying to cook a scarf bee team that is stable at 1900s. Just for you. 😉
lime falcon
good luck
azure osprey
It's not going too well. My best rendition is like 1700 stable. 🧑🍳
empty ocean
It's not going too well. My best rendition is like 1700 stable. 🧑🍳
maybe in Ubers...
and spam idcm shi
sinful blaze
https://pokepast.es/4c4814971c20a7b4 struggling past 1560 in AG, someone help
i dropped from 270 to out of the top 500 😔
oh @lime falcon I played against you
lime falcon
yes most of this team is bad lol
clod doesnt belong on webs at all
neither does treads
pao is also just a shitmon
i can provide more detailed critiques in a minute lol
sinful blaze
okay
lime falcon
so the idea of having some sort of hazard control on webs is fundamentally sound
but the best way to do that is glimmora
it's just better than treads because it has the powerful effect of deterring opponents from clicking physical moves
clod is just too passive here, you'll be far better served by having an ekiller
pao is bad (choiced mons in general are terrible on hyper offense, because they give up too much momentum) and you'd probably be better served by a korai or a lo mirai or something like that
zac should never ever ever use sacred sword
close combat is far better
and bee should really be timid instead of jolly lol there's no reason to drop spa
sinful blaze
it's just better than treads because it has the powerful effect of deterring opp...
rn, I rely on treads as a backup when I can't get webs on and have to go against calyrex
sinful blaze
ekiller?
sinful blaze
and bee should really be timid instead of jolly lol there's no reason to drop sp...
oh shit, was actually running lunge on it before, I think I forgot to change the nature
lime falcon
ekiller?
swords dance normalceus
probably a mherb set, so something like sd / espeed / sclaw/ taunt
sinful blaze
clod is just too passive here, you'll be far better served by having an ekiller
alright
so, ribombee, glimmora, arceus, zacian, calyrex and?
sinful blaze
zac should never ever ever use sacred sword
it was for moody minimize smeargle
since it ignores evasion and defense boost
lime falcon
is it bulky enough to live a psyshock
you can ev for that
sinful blaze
you can ev for that
okay
wary vine
someone said geysers is the only ag player to exist in this day and age
mild granite
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bitter plinth
https://pokepast.es/33ecf04b7a7f3bfe
Sometimes, non attacking moves are cool
flint thunder
https://pokepast.es/33ecf04b7a7f3bfe
cb sd... kyogre with specs yet most of the moves are physical...
bronze lichen
https://pokepast.es/33ecf04b7a7f3bfe
this is just completely uncompetitive
not to mention gmax isn’t in gen 9
mild granite
this is just completely uncompetitive
Ik. But I fixed the team
atomic finch
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pliant mesa
Is this satire? Ragebait? Both? None?
Both, it would seem
Body press? 4 urshifus? Gimmicks that don’t exist anymore?
devout dagger
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devout dagger
So what should I replace
lime falcon
dozo as the only koraidon check is insane because it is reliant on rest and an opponent with a miraidon can simply block it from resting
pex?
pex is awful
if you drop pex for a mandibuzz you'll be in much better shape
also you don't really need corv here since you have so many boots mons you don't need the hazard control
if you drop dozo for dirge and drop corv for, like, gliscor or something so you have a knock user you'll be in much better shape
charred sorrel
I’m a fan
lime falcon
lol thanks taka
devout dagger
https://psim.us/t/1747560
This was the original idea
lime falcon
also the clod set you want is ```Clodsire @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Water Absorb
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Recover
- Toxic ```
well the original idea is much worse lol
unaware clod is an unviable shitmon because it actually loses to mirai
and because it doesn't wall kyogre
by moving rocks onto clod
you free blissey up to run a slightly better set as well
cm shadow ball stoss softboiled is what it normally runs
but frankly if you run mandi you don't even need bliss
you should probably just run this team lol it's pretty much a straight upgrade in every meaningful respect
lime falcon
np
devout dagger
you should probably just run this team lol it's pretty much a straight upgrade i...
https://psim.us/t/1747569
Would this be better
lime falcon
somewhat
mandi doesn't have room for uturn
tox is much better
bliss needs to be tera... grass or dark
most stalls kinda need ho-oh somewhere
devout dagger
I see
lime falcon
it's not strictly necessary but it mkaes a lot of matchups much easier
here bliss probably fills the same role
but with less longevity
so you can try both ¯_(ツ)_/¯
devout dagger
https://psim.us/t/1747578
Like this?
lime falcon
nah
should be max spdef tera grass
in any case gliscor is definitely not the mon to drop for ho-oh
otherwise you will instantly lose any and all stall mirror matches
you need gliscor to be a knock off absorber
devout dagger
Hmm
devout dagger
nah
https://psim.us/t/1747585
Like this?
lime falcon
idk man you kinda need mola
devout dagger
Isn't ho oh already a regenerator pivot?
lime falcon
they do different things
ho-oh helps with mirai and caly, mola beats korai and zac and ekiller
@dire swift can probably help more tho
i saw you typing there .-.
dire swift
Lol
I was going to say that team looks kinda weak to koraidon
Skele + gliscor isn't really good enough to beat koraidon
devout dagger
So who do I remove?
Skele?
dire swift
Ok
On that team you need gliscor
Or corv
Basically some form of knock of absorbtion
So I would drop either clod or blissey
One of the two
Oh wait I was looking at the wrong paste
Ok for the most recent one drop either blissey or clod for mola
devout dagger
So what should I change for
dire swift
So drop one for ww
devout dagger
Dropped Foul play
lime falcon
in any case you should never be staying in
what if the caly is life orb? specs? tera ghost?
eving for that is pointless
dire swift
I mean in some cases you do stay in
The majority you don't
But against confirmed hdb caly on something like axis 6
When I have full health gliscor
Knock is usually the play
lime falcon
yeah fair
dire swift
252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 244 HP / 12 SpD Gliscor: 292-345 (82.9 - 98%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Poison Heal
Yeah you live
Without the spdef investment
Anyways I gtg
Here is an updated version of my sample stall
devout dagger
Ty
barren turret
https://pokepast.es/38dc5de913e190e5
Arceus-Dark web
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https://pokepast.es/38dc5de913e190e5
Arceus-Dark web
ok, team looks decently standard... but Calm Mind Arceus-Dark does not fit on webs, at all
Plus Sash Calyrex-shadow is bad
I'd use Heavy-Duty-Boots, or Life orb over sash with this nasty plot set
barren turret
ok, team looks decently standard... but Calm Mind Arceus-Dark does not fit on we...
What I should replace with arceus-dark?
bitter plinth
What I should replace with arceus-dark?
Arceus-Ground is quite scary
and gives u a nice electric immunity
barren turret
Ok
lime falcon
Plus Sash Calyrex-shadow is bad
sash caly is fine on this sort of team
specifically on webs teams like this that can keep hazards off it's totally viable
bitter plinth
sash caly is fine on this sort of team
ok
lime falcon
i think dropping darkceus for a glimmora
would probably make this dramatically better
although @dire swift is of course the local webs fiend
flint thunder
https://pokepast.es/e142810bfeed2830 does this suck?
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dire swift
Doesn't look awful imo
I think the biggest issue I see with the team is you don't have an ekiller
on there
I think every hyper offense team needs either a gambit or an ekiller so you don't get run over by calyrex-shadow
also I am not really a big fan of power herb etern
gets hard walled by ting lu which is on like half of all teams
flint thunder
I think every hyper offense team needs either a gambit or an ekiller so you don'...
I mean I can go for like gambit but Idk what to switch for
lime falcon
etern
etern does not work on this kinda HO team
it just gets walled by the omnipresent tinglu lol
flint thunder
it just gets walled by the omnipresent tinglu lol
is it fine for only caly as the special attacker?
lime falcon
yeah
fallen pelican
is this a good ag team? im thinking of replacing koraidon with smth else https://pokepast.es/d1a0b86978692d4b
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lime falcon
not great
why is there a blaziken
honestly if you drop blaziken for a swords dance arceus-normal and run real sets on everything it might be usable
specs mirai on webs is terrible because it's a gigantic momentum sink
it gives out so many free turns after locking into moves
calm mind caly is terrible. a much better set is nasty plot grass knot astral psyshock
the zac set is also terrible - it should be behemoth blade wild charge swords dance play rough or similar
korai needs a setup move too idk why it doesn't have any
swords dance scale shot flare blitz low kick or similar
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fallen pelican
why is there a blaziken
for swords dance speed bost baton pass into zacian or korai
lime falcon
for swords dance speed bost baton pass into zacian or korai
yes well unfortunately this sucks
hooh is super common and just phazes it out and you lose
or a fairyceus sits in front of it clicking judgment or whatever
lime falcon
https://pokepast.es/7b71bd8c41e86337 does this suck?
sorta
lime falcon
that does not make it better
lime falcon
sorta
it’s definitely not terrible although I think the zac is a bit out of place
it seems like this team loses really hard to physdef fairyceus and running a zac that can’t break it exacerbates that problems significantly
lime falcon
holdon i did NOT put curse on blaizeken
blaziken quickpass is an unviable gimmick that will not work reliably against anyone with a brain, no matter what set it runs
fallen pelican
ig half the people i fight dont have one cuz it works well a lot for me
lime falcon
yeah anything works in low ladder
fallen pelican
swords dance scale shot flare blitz low kick or similar
like my ubers set for korai?: cc scale shot flame charge sd
fallen pelican
im not seeing much abt ribombee other than the sticky web stuff
lime falcon
your options are three: run the sub tera steel iron head scale shot set, run sd three attacks with flare blitz, or run some kinda taunt 2 attacks set to try to beat cheese more reliably
anyway here in ag korai needs flare blitz over flame charge most of the time because physdef fairyceus is super common and flare blitz breaks it more consistently
fallen pelican
so collision scale shot flare blitz sd with dice works on korai?
lime falcon
collision course is bad
low kick is far better
it does a lot more to the very common waterceus or tera water fairyceus or other neutral targets
but aside from that yeah it’s good just make sure it’s tera ghost
fallen pelican
ty
fallen pelican
im not seeing much abt ribombee other than the sticky web stuff
so is ribombee good?
lime falcon
bee is fine but that set is bad
it can run a few diff sets but usually you want like
webs skill swap moonblast pounce or smthng
you can drop skill swap or pounce for stun spore or quiver dance or drop both and run webs qd bp moonblast
flint thunder
it seems like this team loses really hard to physdef fairyceus and running a zac...
oh, is there anyway fixing that?
flint thunder
Run a bb set, perhaps?
instead of what, play rough?
lime falcon
yeah
I assume you’re running crunch tera dark to get through dirge
bb helps vs that anyway because if dirge teras fairy then it still walls the current set
flint thunder
bb helps vs that anyway because if dirge teras fairy then it still walls the cur...
k then, is there any more problems?
lime falcon
it looks usable
you might want to consider going modest on mirai
but that’s mostly a personal preference thing
could also run an sd set on ekiller given that this is a pretty fastpaced team anyway but again it’s your call on that since it’s not a huge change
flint thunder
could also run an sd set on ekiller given that this is a pretty fastpaced team a...
I want some bulk on it so not only ho-oh and ting be the only one capable of taking a hit
fallen pelican
so what should i replace blaizeken with
lime falcon
so what should i replace blaizeken with
swords dance normalceus probably
you dont have any caly counterplay so that’s kinda important
fallen pelican
swords dance normalceus probably
is will o wisp earthquake extreme speed and sd a good set
lime falcon
is will o wisp earthquake extreme speed and sd a good set
what no
normally you’d run sd espeed shadow claw taunt lol