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whole tulip Oct 16, 2025, 4:49 AM

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Entei is your anti HO yes

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I would go with fairy ngl

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you have a ground for the t-wave mons

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Torterra is decently good on webs though

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since it means it can outspeed most scarfers now

safe geode Oct 16, 2025, 5:29 AM

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https://pokepast.es/c8cd84a114ea310e

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had prot pads gzap but now its banned so was wondering how this will be moving forward

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maybe low kick on bisharp?

whole tulip Oct 16, 2025, 6:14 AM

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Well, main issue now is that you don't really have a ground type switchin, something such as scarf krook can easily force you to tera bisharp. Low kick on bisharp is okay, but i prefer speedy bisharps for that. I think you swap out mamo for flygon (could do a standard scale shot set or fimp set) to help with that

safe geode Oct 17, 2025, 1:32 AM

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everything else is good tho? what abt the tera blast electric suicune. had that for when volc was in the tier

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was also thinking incin could work really well here with intim drops burns and more support

whole tulip Oct 17, 2025, 11:11 AM

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Tblast electric is still prob fine ngl

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You can fit ice beam or shadow ball on it easier though

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Incin idk about

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intim can backfire against bisharp

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+idt it really fits great here

safe geode Oct 19, 2025, 11:17 PM

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still resists everything that isnt lowkick, can burn or knock off or even ohko with flare blitz

vestal delta Oct 20, 2025, 2:58 AM

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not sure which of these to highlight, but thank you. I finally cracked top 500 with your recommendations. Number 476 as of my last check.

whole tulip Oct 20, 2025, 3:00 AM

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Thats great, gz

whole tulip Oct 20, 2025, 3:01 AM

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safe geode still resists everything that isnt lowkick, can burn or knock off or even ohko w...

issue is that if you aren't physically defensive (and you kinda wanna be spdef to help take on stuff like armarouge), then at +3 its doing 50%

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so its really dicey very quickly

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if you ain't at 100%

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cause you open yourself up to iron head flinch

lethal sierra Oct 22, 2025, 6:29 AM

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Made my first team ever :). Might be hot doo doo but it has chesnaught so its still goated tbh
https://pokepast.es/8a0361732c055ed0

vivid rootBOT Oct 22, 2025, 6:29 AM

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whole tulip Oct 22, 2025, 6:31 AM

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Chesnaught should probably be synthesis+body press, leech+spiky shield isn't really good. Gengar doesn't really have much reason to run tbolt, coverage like focus blast/d-gleam or utility like wisp/dbond is better. Cyclizar should probably be AV, think on this team you really want that. I think you could also drop garde/mien and make one of them a flying/levitate mon (flygon could work as it also gives you a volt immune).

lethal sierra Oct 22, 2025, 6:34 AM

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whole tulip Chesnaught should probably be synthesis+body press, leech+spiky shield isn't rea...

Thank you very much :), ill be back with a revised version at some point lol, also I put tbolt more so for talonflame but idk if that makes a lot of sense since im still figuring it out

whole tulip Oct 22, 2025, 6:35 AM

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Talon you should be fine against, shadow ball and sludge wave does a ton

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and empo should wall talon

lethal sierra Oct 22, 2025, 6:35 AM

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ah ok sweet, ill keep that in mind then

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@whole tulip I've got something different now by trying to follow you advice as best I could. I reverted chesnaught, gave gengar his FB back, and gave Cyclizar his vest. I also traded Mien for Flygon and tried to make this flygon set work, though I may have messed up so we'll see lol
https://pokepast.es/a514cae0e7207665

whole tulip Oct 22, 2025, 6:51 AM

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Taunt needs to be swapped out since its incompatable with AV (draco meteor or d-tail works well). But yeah, this looks good

lethal sierra Oct 22, 2025, 6:52 AM

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oh true 💀 , probably for like dragon tail right?

whole tulip Oct 22, 2025, 6:52 AM

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Yeah

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that works

lethal sierra Oct 22, 2025, 6:52 AM

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gotcha

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thanks for the help man, it took me a while to make this lol

whole tulip Oct 22, 2025, 6:52 AM

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Np

lethal sierra Oct 28, 2025, 1:08 AM

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Made another Chesnaught team, first five games im 3-2
https://pokepast.es/20aa5e5ddabf1e01

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whole tulip Oct 28, 2025, 1:50 AM

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Okay, noticing some issues with this team.
One, you don't have a ground immune. While ches can help, something such as gunk krookodile with choice scarf will kinda wreck you.
Two, you don't have any rockers. This seems to be going into a more defensive spikestack way so that would really help.
I think replacing mag with something such as registeel that can set up rocks is a good starting point. I think you might wanna make herscu scarf over specs, then drop mienshao for a flying/levitate mon.

lethal sierra Oct 28, 2025, 1:26 PM

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whole tulip Okay, noticing some issues with this team. One, you don't have a ground immune. ...

Yo mb man, I knocked out so bad yesterday 😭, I’ll definitely implement these changes tho, thank you

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supple raptor Oct 30, 2025, 2:48 AM

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https://pokepast.es/48194742eb981bd6
I am very, very new to RU

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whole tulip Oct 30, 2025, 2:57 AM

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Shao should be LO over e-belt, regen helps offset it a lot. I would make aura sphere on garde healing wish since its a lot more impactful ngl. You also don't really have any mons to take on special attackers so I would make gastrodon spdef, can still keep helm+tera ghost though. Also change slowbro tera type ofc

supple raptor Oct 30, 2025, 3:00 AM

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whole tulip Shao should be LO over e-belt, regen helps offset it a lot. I would make aura sp...

Made changes! thx

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viral lark Nov 2, 2025, 7:55 AM

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https://pokepast.es/b07355aa45521eb8

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viral lark Nov 2, 2025, 7:56 AM

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Hey so found this balance team in smogon, i wanted to make a balance team with mimikyu in it but i have a hard time finding one

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And this one has 2 members that is no longer legal (okidogi and salamence)

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What should i substitute them with?

whole tulip Nov 2, 2025, 8:38 AM

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There isn't really a direct replacement to okidogi and salamence, but gimme a minute to see what could be best

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For fighting types, you could use gallade or hilligant over okidogi

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maybe 3A synthesis hilli?

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ngl, i'm looking at it, and idk what replaces mence

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maybe like, SD/taunt talonflame?

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theres noivern which can somewhat break bulkier teams but they do it in very different ways

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https://pokepast.es/324d3607870095ba

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this is a decently old team, but it should still hold up well enough

viral lark Nov 2, 2025, 1:27 PM

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Ah ok, thx a lot! ^^

dense cargo Nov 5, 2025, 5:36 PM

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https://pokepast.es/2dd9735865ee05de

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faint panther Nov 5, 2025, 5:47 PM

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webs, sick

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thorns is a bit of an unmon but the general build seems fine, standard bish arma core and hili is a nice cleaner

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I think if you're going to stick with thorns (which is ok) you could probably do boots cm arma > wp

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gives you a little less tera reliance there and helps vs balance stuff a lot since you dont have removal or a meaningful tspike absorber with balloon gar

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also 100% on hili dont need ice spinner these days

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synth or tera blast psy are much better and for a team like this you probably do synth and use talon as setup fodder

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https://pokepast.es/da8d1729add47d3c @dense cargo good luck farming

dense cargo Nov 5, 2025, 6:27 PM

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Tysm

dense cargo Nov 5, 2025, 6:27 PM

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faint panther thorns is a bit of an unmon but the general build seems fine, standard bish arma...

Yea the team was built for thorns specifically

buoyant willow Nov 12, 2025, 11:56 PM

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did I make Orbeetle usable with this set? Dropping it is not an option; so I start battle by setting up agility/calm mind, if weakness policy goes off i use stored power, bug buzz for dark types, sticky web because it has it, and finally if I can, i gigantamax anduse G-max gravitas so (almost) all switch ins are affected by sticky web

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any pointers for screen setters so Orbeetle can survive and have weakness policy activate?

whole tulip Nov 13, 2025, 12:11 AM

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I think you have the wrong chat lol

vestal delta Nov 14, 2025, 1:21 AM

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I have a team which I'm terrified of using more than this one replay due to 80+ turns, but thoughts on SpiteStall? It managed to break through an Acid Armor + Body Press and some other setup sweepers through Spite, Haze and recovery.

EDIT: the team, also pasted below: https://pokepast.es/f77a6b4d8009c207

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ru-2480873486-v02m8hx3hewyapaixl3o2sblg7fyuxcpw

[Gen 9] RU: Clover218 vs. test_aura - Replays - Pokémon Showdown!

Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Clover218 and test_aura! Format: [Gen 9] RU; Date: Nov 14, 2025

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wait

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I didn't upload the team (EDIT: fixed)

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the team: https://pokepast.es/f77a6b4d8009c207

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vestal delta Nov 14, 2025, 1:47 AM

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Premise: That PP Stall I've sometimes been up against (triple beasts... and others) only more actively ...Spiteful.

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The theory is that most actual combat moves are to the tune of 8-16 PP with the occasional 24 (Moonblast, most of what Gallade does), or else don't actually do too much damage.

whole tulip Nov 14, 2025, 3:10 AM

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Spite isn't really good ngl, pressure stall is a strategy you can use with suciune, but the move spite isn't really good since the opponent can just switch, or they could use a move they don't care about at much beforehand. Only mon I would consider using spite on is sableye, but even then its kinda meh

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Yeah, not to dismiss your skill or anything but the team you faced wasn't good and the opponent didnt see to play well at all...

vestal delta Nov 14, 2025, 3:14 AM

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I also misplayed a lot; this was a proof of concept.

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and in retrospect, I can totally see how any other (useful) move in that Spite slot would have been helpful

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though I'm totally sticking with both haze and phaze on this

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thanks for confirming this was just a stupid gimmick where I got lucky; I'd hate to have found that something THIS time-consuming was good; now I can go back to something more sensible

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but if I swapped out the Spites, would it be decent?

whole tulip Nov 14, 2025, 4:42 AM

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Hm, I think if you swapped wo-chien out for something else then it would prob be good

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Just some breaker like LO mien or speed control

vestal delta Nov 14, 2025, 5:22 AM

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something with ESpeed or Sucker Punch?

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actually, my thoughts just went to NP Infernape

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ooh, mien would let me keep having another knock off user

wary phoenix Nov 22, 2025, 2:51 AM

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Rate this RU team https://pokepast.es/0622cec2707f0025

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faint panther Nov 22, 2025, 2:56 AM

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wary phoenix Rate this RU team https://pokepast.es/0622cec2707f0025

Unviable unfort

wary phoenix Nov 22, 2025, 2:56 AM

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faint panther Unviable unfort

Huh

faint panther Nov 22, 2025, 2:57 AM

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Maus kleav arma hili all fine for ho but these sets are bad, Cloyster could work and hoodra doesnt fit this team

wary phoenix Nov 22, 2025, 2:58 AM

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So how would you improve my team

whole tulip Nov 22, 2025, 6:01 AM

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What fp said, but to make it better:

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Make maushold wide lens so it can work well with pop bomb (since it will hit 10 hits most of the time) and replace crunch with either bite (90 bp due to technician) or encore

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Kleavor should be close combat over brick break and tera ghost, night slash also prob should be swapped for trailblaze or SD

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Armarouge should be psyshock over psychic and energy ball over aura sphere (to hit water types like slowbro). Also probably change tera to something like fairy or grass

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Cloyster's tera should be ghost probably ngl, sash is prob fine though white herb also works

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Hilligant should be hustle wide lens, thats what gives it most of its viability, could use synthesis or tera blast along with tera psychic

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if you don't go with tera blast, make it tera fire

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Hoodra should be swapped out, preferably for a special attacker like np gengar, weakness policy basculegion-f, scarf gardevoir etc

dense cargo Nov 23, 2025, 7:56 AM

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https://pokepast.es/d46ed01b664de663

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dense cargo Nov 23, 2025, 7:57 AM

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in the little testing i was able to do, found it weak to hlily, or just ho in general

faint panther Nov 23, 2025, 7:57 AM

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Fairy resist talon looks dire

dense cargo Nov 23, 2025, 7:58 AM

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faint panther Fairy resist talon looks dire

technically blissey also resists fairy

whole tulip Nov 23, 2025, 7:58 AM

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SD lycanroc should almost always be Lo and trailblaze doesn't really make much sense, gastro and quag already take a bunch from tera fighting cc and slowbro dies to crunch, I would change the tera and make blaze crunch

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uh, lemme look over the rest

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I think what fp said is true ngl, while you have blissey it will get tricked by garde and if the garde is psyshock/psynoise, it could get iffy

dense cargo Nov 23, 2025, 8:01 AM

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whole tulip SD lycanroc should almost always be Lo and trailblaze doesn't really make much s...

i just want a lycan that can reliably win when the desired chip etc has been achieved

whole tulip Nov 23, 2025, 8:01 AM

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Well, trailblaze doesn't help that much though, crunch does a lot more to slowbro and gastro takes a bunch from tera fighting cc

dense cargo Nov 23, 2025, 8:01 AM

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otherwise i wouldve gone the ho route

whole tulip Nov 23, 2025, 8:02 AM

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252 Atk Life Orb Tough Claws Lycanroc-Dusk Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gastrodon: 188-222 (44.1 - 52.1%) -- 16% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Tough Claws Lycanroc-Dusk Trailblaze vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gastrodon: 317-374 (74.4 - 87.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Like sure, you are doing more to gastro, but in reality, its still not going to like taking cc

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and if it tera ghosts at any point, your lycan can't break through it as easily

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if you go non LO especially

dense cargo Nov 23, 2025, 8:03 AM

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wouldnt lo just be out of place here

whole tulip Nov 23, 2025, 8:04 AM

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I think its fine

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you have pivots and decent removal

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and gives your team some breaking power

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also helps against HO

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252 Atk Tough Claws Lycanroc-Dusk Accelerock vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Maushold: 106-126 (36.6 - 43.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Tough Claws Lycanroc-Dusk Accelerock vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Maushold: 138-164 (47.7 - 56.7%) -- 84.8% chance to 2HKO

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for example

dense cargo Nov 23, 2025, 8:05 AM

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mhm

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do i tera fight or dark

whole tulip Nov 23, 2025, 8:05 AM

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Fighting I would

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LO tera fighting cc 2hkos hippo with a bit of chip

dense cargo Nov 23, 2025, 8:06 AM

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aight

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ty

whole tulip Nov 23, 2025, 8:06 AM

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you already OHKO slowbro with crunch at +2

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without tera

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so fighting is best

dense cargo Nov 23, 2025, 8:07 AM

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yeye

dense cargo Nov 24, 2025, 2:41 PM

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https://pokepast.es/6fc39e60b1173428

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whole tulip Nov 25, 2025, 2:42 AM

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Mew is just better as a suicide lead in general over deoxys as it can outspeed krook, which is definitely a common rocker. Does mean you can't have np mew, but something such as armarouge is good in that slot probably

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Not sure about scarf Gengar tbh, you have two priority users already

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You could just make it np balloon Gengar, but I think something like np tornadus is better

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Despite how much it misses

vestal delta Nov 25, 2025, 6:54 AM

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Got another team, that I mean to bring into the Lili suspect test when I have the time: https://pokepast.es/2be7f0b40df9bfec

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vestal delta Nov 25, 2025, 6:54 AM

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(way past time for me to get some sleep, so I'll be gone for a bit)

wary phoenix Nov 25, 2025, 10:54 AM

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Is hisuin militant getting a suspect test

dense cargo Nov 25, 2025, 2:05 PM

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whole tulip Mew is just better as a suicide lead in general over deoxys as it can outspeed k...

feel like psynoise+dkiss is a great stallbreaker so it would be good on ho

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and yea i want to use that set badly

whole tulip Nov 25, 2025, 8:36 PM

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I would use jirachi over deoxys defense then. A set of rocks, iron head, thunder wave/body slam, encore/healing wish should work

whole tulip Nov 25, 2025, 9:47 PM

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vestal delta Got another team, that I mean to bring into the Lili suspect test when I have th...

Will get to this later today also

whole tulip Nov 25, 2025, 9:47 PM

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wary phoenix Is hisuin militant getting a suspect test

Yes

vestal delta Nov 25, 2025, 10:24 PM

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whole tulip Will get to this later today also

Understood.

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 1:47 AM

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vestal delta Got another team, that I mean to bring into the Lili suspect test when I have th...

This is kinda a weird team ngl, main issue I see is that arma kinda is a pain if chandy has to take rocks chip, which it probably will at some point. I also think specs mag and scarf chandy want to be used on slower squads ngl, to allow them to be as destructive as possible

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I also don't think specs mag+scarf chandy works well together on the same team ngl, but maybe it could work

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actually, they prob are fine together yeah

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But yeah, if you want to go in a more offense route, prob need to drop mag+chandy, but if you wanna stick with that core, prob need to revise torterra+gatr

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 1:49 AM

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so I'm trying to do two things at once?

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in place of gatr, I could go for Swampert and give Jirachi another move in place of rocks

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or some sort of empoleon, keeping me at having some decent water options

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actually, better question: In what general direction would this reworking go? (I already tried a Band Crawdaunt, and it was lacking for my style.)

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hm, if replacing the special attackers, then a Feint Mienshao did well for me for a previous team

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or... do you think IronPress Chesnaught would work in place of Torterra?

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 2:08 AM

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vestal delta so I'm trying to do two things at once?

Basically yes

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 2:09 AM

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and my mind is going in two directions for which way to replace things

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one half wants Chandy -> Weakness Policy Armarogue; another wants that Terra -> Ches swap

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...My indecision is that Terra and Gatr have done a lot for me, but Chandy and Magnezone have, too.

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 2:11 AM

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vestal delta actually, better question: In what general direction would this reworking go? (I...

Can't really give a detailed response since my internet is out rn and I'm doing this on phone, but I would try to probably either a) go with good defensive mons/pivots that can help get your wall breakers or b) go in a more offensive route by dropping doom desire on jirachi and then prob swapping gatr for something a bit more physically bulky

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Basically you either go a balance route or you go an offense route

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 2:12 AM

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like a Swampert or Empoleon with Rocks + Flip Turn?

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 2:12 AM

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Yes

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Something like that

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 2:13 AM

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so the question for gatr's replacement becomes: Steel Type + Roost or STAB Earthquake?

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as for rethinking Torterra... I really want something that can crack walls open on the physical side and can punish ground types

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Terrakion?

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 2:16 AM

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vestal delta so the question for gatr's replacement becomes: Steel Type + Roost or STAB Earth...

Hm, I would just use something like crocune ngl

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 2:16 AM

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vestal delta as for rethinking Torterra... I really want something that can crack walls open ...

Think krookodile would be a good option

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Prob taunt krook

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Since it can wear them down

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 2:17 AM

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right. taunt.

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I keep forgetting that move exists

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so, specially defensive empoleon: Roost, Surf, Flip Turn OR Rocks (if I keep Jirachi, then that would work out there?), Knock/Roar/Ice Beam

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keeping Jirachi, how would Roost, Surf, Flip Turn, Ice Beam sound?

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 2:19 AM

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If you keep jirachi, then I would not do empo

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 2:19 AM

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oh

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my mainline Swampert then, and drop Rocks on jirachi?

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 2:20 AM

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Way too fighting weak

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Sure

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Though looking at it, IDT jirachi is the play here

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At all

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Cause like, you do kinda want a ground immune

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Only thing I can think of to keep rachi is having gligar over pert/krook but idk about that since you prob lose to mienshao still

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 2:23 AM

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hm, Tornadus time? (def not Rotom of any form, I hope)

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or Noivern or Talonflame...

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noivern would make me a fair bit weaker to ice, though a fast Taunt and a Super Fang would be lovely... Talonflame would make me VERY water-weak...

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Flygon makes me have a lot of ground moves

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oh, would Cresselia work?

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 2:33 AM

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Noivern I think is good ywah

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Yeah

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 2:40 AM

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whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 2:41 AM

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Hm, think you don't need both krook+pert ngl

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Just one or the other

faint panther Nov 26, 2025, 2:46 AM

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Scarf Chandelure yo

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Yeah pert cyc chandy mag are probably fine as a general team comp for this

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Vern and krook are kinda just overlapping roles unnecessarily

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 2:52 AM

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How do you regard their roles as overlapping?

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oh, both Taunt users?

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thinking Krook -> Chenaught (Iron Defense, Synthesis, Knock Off, Body Press)?

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or H-lili?

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 2:59 AM

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vestal delta How do you regard their roles as overlapping?

Mainly there typings

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I think ches could be fine here

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 3:01 AM

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I wince to select tera Steel because Mag + Tera on Noivern, but should I stick with that?

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thinking of an unorthodox Tera Fire to just eat burns

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(and get an edge on sun teams)

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 3:03 AM

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vestal delta I wince to select tera Steel because Mag + Tera on Noivern, but should I stick w...

You prob wanna swap out Vern for something else, but tera ghost or even water is prob fine

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And ches is already good against sun

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Due to bulletproof

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 3:04 AM

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RIGHT weather ball is a bullet

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okay

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swapping both krook -> ches and vern -> something else that at least is neutral to ground because chandy+magnezone?

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 3:05 AM

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Probably yeah

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 3:06 AM

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could be the first time in a while I ran Talonflame with Brave Bird instead of Roost+Defog+U-Turn+Wisp

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I definitely like having some flying coverage, so it's Talonflame or trying Tornadus unless you think that'd be a very bad idea

whole tulip Nov 26, 2025, 3:27 AM

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Talon could be alright, though I think you want to make pert spdef probably then maybe

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 3:28 AM

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talon failed first game, went tornadus and seeing how that's doing

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spdef pert hm

vestal delta Nov 26, 2025, 3:47 AM

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initial testing says I might want something very bulky with Unaware. Looks like Quagsire is joining the team

quiet cloak Dec 3, 2025, 11:00 PM

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https://pokepast.es/48fb8779bdbf9dc2 good for a starter?

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whole tulip Dec 4, 2025, 1:06 AM

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The registeel, umbreon, and gengar are fine, but the rest of the team is iffy

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Jolteon is completely unviable

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Cyclizar should have d-tail over taunt since its running AV

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Kleavor is also not really good and not needed since registeel can rock here

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Swap out jolteon and kleavor for a spiker and some speed control and its prob decent

quiet cloak Dec 4, 2025, 8:18 AM

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whole tulip Jolteon is completely unviable

oh yeah I didn't notice the cyclizar thing already fixed that, also is jolteon really that bad?

whole tulip Dec 4, 2025, 8:22 AM

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Yes, doesn't have the coverage to beat a good majority of grounds and is outclassed by raikou, who has scald to hit grounds

quiet cloak Dec 4, 2025, 8:26 AM

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whole tulip Yes, doesn't have the coverage to beat a good majority of grounds and is outclas...

https://pokepast.es/238a44b57d442b3b better?

whole tulip Dec 4, 2025, 8:26 AM

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Forretress isn't really a good mon, if you swap it out for chesnaught though, team is good then

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could also use gastrodon actually

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up to you which one you pick

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also probably change one of the teras on umbreon, registeel or cyclizar, IDT you need three tera fairys here

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but yeah, make those small changes and its good

quiet cloak Dec 4, 2025, 8:31 AM

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whole tulip Forretress isn't really a good mon, if you swap it out for chesnaught though, te...

also does a iron defense set work on chesnaught?

whole tulip Dec 4, 2025, 8:31 AM

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It can yes, which you can put over spikes

quiet cloak Dec 4, 2025, 8:35 AM

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whole tulip It can yes, which you can put over spikes

anyways thx for the help

whole tulip Dec 4, 2025, 8:48 AM

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Np

quiet cloak Dec 10, 2025, 7:56 PM

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https://pokepast.es/0cafc9ce9bd5f36b feels like a flop

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vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 2:55 AM

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I decided to build a bulky pivot team that also has a bit of "Screw Weather" options. https://pokepast.es/214629389cc57523

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vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 2:56 AM

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and that punishes setup

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Focus Blast to surprise Magnezone and Ice types

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not perfect, but it's a bigger threat than Aura Sphere (EDIT: vs Assault Vest. I admit, it's still very strong vs Choice)

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 4:11 AM

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Oh, I just found out: Registeel shreds me

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so there's a problem there

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 10:22 AM

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quiet cloak https://pokepast.es/0cafc9ce9bd5f36b feels like a flop

For this first team, manual rain isn't good, as politoed is just better at setting up rain in general. I also don't think semi rain can really work, so I would prob just go full rain with toed, barra, herscu, electric type, then two fillers

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 10:25 AM

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vestal delta I decided to build a bulky pivot team that also has a bit of "Screw Weather" opt...

Registeel should be mostly fine for this team tbh, vapo can 1v1 it pretty well. That said, idk about this team. You double up on a lot of typings and its showing. Something such as gardevoir is going to eat this team alive. Change swampert to another ground type and then make flygon something else. Could go registeel over pert and then SD rhyperior maybe, or some other offensive ground, though not krook since I do think it wouldn't mesh well with this team.

quiet cloak Dec 11, 2025, 10:27 AM

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whole tulip For this first team, manual rain isn't good, as politoed is just better at setti...

I see, btw what set should I use on politoed? is it just the perishsong one or there is another?, also what is 'herscu' 😅

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 10:28 AM

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Herscu is basculegion-f, as for politoed, perish song is prob the best set yeah, politoed isn't a great pokemon, but for rain to work at its best, its required

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perish song potentially allows politoed to trap and remove certain mons when facing bulkier teams

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Something like perish song, whirlpool, then two filler is good

quiet cloak Dec 11, 2025, 10:29 AM

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whole tulip Herscu is basculegion-f, as for politoed, perish song is prob the best set yeah,...

ok then what electric type you recommand i should use?

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 10:29 AM

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Kilowattrel is usually the best, though raikou or magnezone are also decent

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Don't forget to use thunder on all three and weather ball on kilo though

quiet cloak Dec 11, 2025, 10:31 AM

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whole tulip Don't forget to use thunder on all three and weather ball on kilo though

ye I already had that in mind, but which move should I switch with weather ball? volt switch and hurricane are neccsery so I guess roost?

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 10:31 AM

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Thunder, hurricane, weather ball, volt switch

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while roost can be useful, typically rain teams play at a fast pace

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you can drop weather ball though if you really want

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To fit roost

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But I would advise against that, since weather ball makes kilo a lot more threatening

quiet cloak Dec 11, 2025, 10:33 AM

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okay then, hdb as an item right?

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 10:33 AM

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yeah

quiet cloak Dec 11, 2025, 10:34 AM

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whole tulip yeah

okay then thx for the help

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 10:34 AM

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np

quiet cloak Dec 11, 2025, 10:42 AM

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whole tulip np

also one more thing were chesn and cyclizar good as filers or I should replace them?

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 10:43 AM

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Ches I would probably replace for something such as jirachi (stealth rock, iron head, u-turn, filler. Filler could be encore, thunder, healing wish, body slam) since synthesis heals less under rain and it sucks out the momentum that rain typically wants to keep up

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cyclizar should be fine though

quiet cloak Dec 11, 2025, 10:49 AM

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ok thx

quiet cloak Dec 11, 2025, 10:11 PM

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quiet cloak https://pokepast.es/0cafc9ce9bd5f36b feels like a flop

after some testing the team is really good overall, at this point I haven't lost any battle expect for one where prediction made me lose, switching chesn with jirachi was really decent but can be replaceable, rocks and para/flinch is good, although I can feel like I can make barra modest with doubled speed it's faster then even scarfed mons

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 10:47 PM

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Oh yeah, ada barra is usually on rain

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I missed that

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 11:07 PM

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whole tulip Registeel should be mostly fine for this team tbh, vapo can 1v1 it pretty well. ...

How about Shell Smash Torterra for the offensive ground?

rocky jetty Dec 11, 2025, 11:09 PM

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Can someone put together a ru team without legendaries and without gen8 hash for me?

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 11:12 PM

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vestal delta How about Shell Smash Torterra for the offensive ground?

Torterra could be fine yeah

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 11:13 PM

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and looking at registeel's last move... debating between Iron Defense, Curse, Protect, or a gimmicky move to catch someone unaware

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wait, tera ghost. NOT curse

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maybe Facade to be a status absorber

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....though if I go for T-Wave, I could swap Umbreon to having Roar and have two Phazers.

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 11:29 PM

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Well, it would be rocks, bp, heavy slam

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the moves you listed aside from facade are fine

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Thunderbolt can be nice to hit bulky waters

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 11:39 PM

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wondering if I should swap from -SpA to -Atk on Registeel then

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since BP is defense and all that

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...or -speed since base 50 with no investment isn't going to care

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 11:42 PM

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if you go tbolt, then it would be -speed

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actually

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you should prob be iron defense on it

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you don't necessarily struggle with waters

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 11:43 PM

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yeah, and I think the t-bolt thing was written when Gyarados and Volcanion were still in the tier

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(and gapdos)

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 11:44 PM

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Well, its not for them

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its stuff like slowbro

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 11:44 PM

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whole tulip you don't necessarily struggle with waters

I made this team in part out of hatred for how I faced a bunch of weather teams in a row

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 11:44 PM

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slowbro, herscu, suicune etc

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 11:44 PM

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especially rain teams; losing to cetitan snow teams was at least pleasant

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 11:44 PM

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talon

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eh, I think vapo should solo most rain teams

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as long as you play somewhat carefully

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 11:45 PM

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should I swap that tera to poison, maybe?

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that way, I'd have the option to resist a barraskewda CC

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 11:46 PM

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yeah

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psychics you can deal with pretty easily

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so poison is better rn

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 11:46 PM

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coughUMBREONcough

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umbreon saved me so much vs a Psychic Noise Slowbro

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 11:47 PM

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yeah, umbreon should handle a good chunk of them

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 11:48 PM

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(having two Eeveelutions on the same team reminds me of Colosseum.)

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oh, do you know when the lilli ban will take effect? I'm a bit tired of people eking out one last uses of it before the ban comes

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 11:50 PM

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Idk, I'm guessing in the next week or so?

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its when dhelmise and marty implement it

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 11:53 PM

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so with the new build, my main win condition is to set up for a Torterra sweep, my secondary is for Gardevoir to nuke their way past things, and my tertiaries are Toxic damage and IronPress

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 11:53 PM

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Yeah

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 11:54 PM

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Looking at Tera Fire to not get burned, then

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(and to mess with Sun teams)

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Shell Smash, Headlong Rush, Rock Blast, and Bullet Seed; Loaded Dice

whole tulip Dec 11, 2025, 11:55 PM

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Tera fire is good yeah

vestal delta Dec 11, 2025, 11:55 PM

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and Umbreon keeps thunder wave because Registeel is not taking over paralysis duty

vestal delta Dec 12, 2025, 1:59 AM

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the changed team worked, especially vs that really cheesy team that's back

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no more weather to test it against fsr 🙁

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okay, big problem with the new team: no Knock Off. Stall walks over me now

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New version: https://pokepast.es/e106f7f53a025bc5

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vestal delta Dec 12, 2025, 2:29 AM

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my biggest issue is a Chesnaut + Blissey/Chansey core.

whole tulip Dec 12, 2025, 2:38 AM

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You could put knock on garde tbh

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Could also swap umbreon for a-muk

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actually yeah, swap umbreon for amuk

vestal delta Dec 12, 2025, 2:55 AM

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is there a reason that it recommends -- oh, in case I tera so that black sludge won't switch to hurting me

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~~if I wanted to NOT go RestTalk (which I'm aware is probably dodgy), then Knock Off + Haze + Poison Jab + ... Drain Punch?~~

whole tulip Dec 12, 2025, 3:42 AM

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Non rest talk isn't very good tbh

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but pain split is an option

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Rn I think amuk always wants haze and knock off

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so knock, haze, pain split, drain punch probably

vestal delta Dec 12, 2025, 3:50 AM

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after getting burned (literally), I went back to the safe resttalk

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:31 AM

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vestal delta New version: https://pokepast.es/e106f7f53a025bc5

@whole tulip I had an idea and wanted to get your opinion: Tera Ground and swap Focus Blast for Tera Blast. Would that be viable on Gardevoir? I mostly took Focus Blast for fighting types and just realized how useful it could be for other things

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or would losing the option for a tera fairy nuke on moonblast be too much of a loss?

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:32 AM

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I would probably not use tera ground and tera blast, maybe on cm garde, but thats a lot more specific set tbh

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tera fairy just allows garde to clean easier

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What were your issues with focus blast?

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Cause garde has a lot of other 4th move options

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:34 AM

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70% accuracy

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I'd go aura sphere, but it's not strong enough to 2HKO Magnezone and Registeel

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I like to play things safe if I can, with a minimum of luck if I can reduce it

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:35 AM

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Hm

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Mystical fire is an option, can't hit armarouge but the team should handle that well enough

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Wisp or knock are also 4th move options, which don't immediately defeat steels, but can heavily cripple them

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:36 AM

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*AV magnezone. Specs Magnezone dies in 2 hits still

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Goodra-H, AV Magnezone, and to a lesser extent Registeel are my issues; Focus Blast is needed for the 2HKO

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actually, I just remembered

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:38 AM

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Hm

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:38 AM

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that I changed Noivern to Boomburst + Flamethrower

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so the issue is getting Torterra a chance to shell smash

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though trading Umbreon for Muk reduced my survivability by an uncomfortable amount

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could swapping Registeel for Jirachi work?

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:43 AM

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you could yeah

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:43 AM

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current version, without Jirachi: https://pokepast.es/ccd8a1a4b87c1fdb

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whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:45 AM

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uh

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there is no jirachi

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💀

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its still a regi

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:46 AM

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"without Jirachi"

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:46 AM

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oh

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:46 AM

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before the swap

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:46 AM

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nevermind

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i'm blind

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IDL the noivern set at all ngl

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:47 AM

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Is Rocks/Wish/Body Slam/Iron Head + Tera Water on Jirachi good?

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or too many water options?

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:47 AM

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Hm, I think thats fine

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but about that vern set, IDT its really going to work well

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You could do offensive defog

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:47 AM

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it has often underperformed

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:48 AM

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with draco+boots

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:48 AM

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meteor, defog, roost, and u-turn? That standard?

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:49 AM

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I would suggest flame over u-turn, but yeah

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you don't have to do max hp though that helps with defogging

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though if you make it max special attack, I would consider boots on vaporeon so you have reliable healing even if hazards are up

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:51 AM

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I just realized: why not go Tera Dragon on Jirachi?

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it'd go against both rain and sun

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:51 AM

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That would be okay, but would make you weak to fairy

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which is a bit iffy tbh

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:51 AM

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ah, right

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:51 AM

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though you have amuk, it could get dicey against opposing gardes

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I would say its an alright option

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:53 AM

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I count 4 major moonblast users?

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or at least fairy attackers. Wait, 5 with Draining Kiss Mew

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er 6 with Mimikyu been a while since I thought about them

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:54 AM

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Well, really only garde is used much

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so i would only worry about that

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:55 AM

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Ribombee outspeeds, too

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:55 AM

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Eh, bee is a lot less threatening and is more confined to lead

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:55 AM

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so does A-Tales

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though Tales is weak to iron head, so yeah

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 3:56 AM

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a-tales has been picking up a bit, but you should mostly handle it with amuk

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 3:57 AM

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version 3: https://pokepast.es/4701f6224c7d11a5

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hey, quick showdown thing: what's box vs team?

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 4:23 AM

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uh

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box is where you can store sets for mons

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 4:26 AM

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...so all those times I recorded my standard stat spreads were wasted because I could have just used that?

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*recorded in notepad

whole tulip Dec 14, 2025, 4:36 AM

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Well, the standard spreads you can mostly access in the teambuilder without boxes

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Like, the standard bisharp spread you just can find without boxes

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You just click the "import/export" button when on a mon

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thats also how you access the box sets

vestal delta Dec 14, 2025, 4:40 AM

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I need to experiment with that when I'm not too tired

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like my favorite high-hp bisharp that kept surprising people

cerulean cape Dec 16, 2025, 10:57 AM

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https://pokepast.es/30aed0d1959c3727

here’s my Krookodile team but I kinda feel like something’s a bit off abt it

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cerulean cape Dec 16, 2025, 7:03 PM

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cerulean cape https://pokepast.es/30aed0d1959c3727 here’s my Krookodile team but I kinda feel...

Is it good

whole tulip Dec 16, 2025, 11:25 PM

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cerulean cape https://pokepast.es/30aed0d1959c3727 here’s my Krookodile team but I kinda feel...

Uh, this team doesn't look really good. Its kinda all over the place ngl. Iron thorns is unviable, focus sash intim scrafty isn't good at all (especially that set), tailwind talonflame is also unviable, AV herscu can be okay but I wouldn't really recommend it, and the garde set isn't really good

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I would just stick to the sample sets ngl

cerulean cape Dec 17, 2025, 8:33 PM

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Alr I see, thanks for the advice

cerulean cape Dec 18, 2025, 11:34 AM

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whole tulip Uh, this team doesn't look really good. Its kinda all over the place ngl. Iron t...

I tried to take what you said, tweaking Gardevoir’s entire gameplan, booting iron thorns for Cyclizar for easy hazard removal, and changing up Scrafty Basculegion and Talonflame just a bit

https://pokepast.es/5b27eca1424d909d

copper tulip Dec 25, 2025, 9:27 AM

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https://pokepast.es/1235026a5b114b87
please rate me team

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whole tulip Dec 25, 2025, 9:30 AM

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This is certainly an interesting team, but not a very good one. Power anklet is basically a useless item, as while I get the point of trying to cut speed in half for tr, its just outclassed by iron ball. But regardless, all these sets are kinda bad.

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TR in general is pretty bad in the tier

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Shaymin has little to no niche in the tier, especially SD

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meloetta isn't amazing and it typically prefers faster sets

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Diancie is mainly used with meteor beam power herb, defensive is not great

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Hoopa also isn't good

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I would suggest looking at samples

copper tulip Dec 25, 2025, 9:32 AM

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no i just wanted to use team full of mythicals

vivid rootBOT Dec 25, 2025, 9:32 AM

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RarelyUsed (Gen 9)

Overview

For more info, see this format's Dex page.

whole tulip Dec 25, 2025, 9:32 AM

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Well, we don't really help with specific rules

copper tulip Dec 25, 2025, 9:32 AM

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why is iron ball better?

whole tulip Dec 25, 2025, 9:32 AM

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If you want to use mew or jirachi on a team, I can help that

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Iron ball does the same thing tbh, but also if its tricked

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then it can ground flying types

copper tulip Dec 25, 2025, 9:33 AM

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can you help me improve the sets atleast

whole tulip Dec 25, 2025, 9:33 AM

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Okay

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gimme a min

copper tulip Dec 25, 2025, 9:33 AM

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sure

whole tulip Dec 25, 2025, 9:36 AM

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Mew I would make a lead set with stealth rock, spikes, taunt, and then one of knock off or misty explosion.
Jirachi should be the standard choice scarf set with iron head, healing wish, u-turn, trick.
Shaymin if you really wanna use it, should be a special attacking set with seed flare, earth power, d-gleam, healing wish or synthesis with LO.
Meloetta should cm with focus blast over trick room (also make it max speed and special attack too)
Diancie should be OTR with power herb (meteor beam, tr, earth power, moonblast)
Hoopa should prob be sub with salac/custap (only set I see working), with the set you have

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Idt this team is really going to work, but if you desperately wanna use it

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then these would be better sets

copper tulip Dec 25, 2025, 9:37 AM

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thanks for the suggestions i will try it

quiet cloak Dec 27, 2025, 5:49 PM

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https://pokepast.es/c224932488d81fbf is this good? I feels like it's not

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New [Gen 9] RU RMT @faint panther, @small spruce, @whole tulip, @spark sapphire. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

quiet cloak Dec 28, 2025, 1:12 PM

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quiet cloak https://pokepast.es/c224932488d81fbf is this good? I feels like it's not

still nothing 😭

whole tulip Dec 29, 2025, 1:34 AM

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I'll be getting to it later today, just wait a bit

whole tulip Dec 29, 2025, 3:31 AM

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quiet cloak https://pokepast.es/c224932488d81fbf is this good? I feels like it's not

This team looks mostly fine, but I do think there are some issues here. Firstly, IDT you need crawdaunt here, its not able to pivot into battles as easily as it wants to. Secondly, your ground resist being loon gengar is simply not it, something like krookodile kinda just wrecks this squad. I think a possible idea is scarf gengar over np, drop garde and craw. Then you could prob make craw something like a suicune and then have like wo-chien over garde.

quiet cloak Dec 29, 2025, 2:46 PM

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whole tulip This team looks mostly fine, but I do think there are some issues here. Firstly,...

sry took long to respond I was busy, but is wo-chien really that good? the 4x weakness to u-turn seems scary

whole tulip Dec 29, 2025, 7:33 PM

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Yes, while it does have some crippling weaknesses, it's very good into a lot of other mons like herscu and krook, while also being an excellent tera sink like garg

vestal delta Jan 2, 2026, 3:44 AM

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With the new meta (good riddance, Hippowdon), I've got a new team that's had some success: Dual Weather, to punish Snow (hate Belly Drum Sitrus Berry Slush Rush Cetitan, and Alolan Sandslash is a pain, too) and to work with/against any weather. Sun is setup, Rain is Banded power. That part of the team has been working. I'm more concerned about my supports: Lycanroc-Dusk and Maushold.

https://pokepast.es/35d6a74659879fd9

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vestal delta Jan 2, 2026, 3:45 AM

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Addendum: the idea is that I just plain win the Weather War no matter what the weather is

quiet cloak Jan 2, 2026, 10:54 AM

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vestal delta With the new meta (good riddance, Hippowdon), I've got a new team that's had som...

not really an expert but make the weather setters fully tank, their job is to set weather and be a annoying not for damage, I recommend using the smogon sets on them if you don't know the correct set, also just throw endeavor and accelerock on lycan, in most cases it's not surviving a lot so might as well take a mon with you with them

whole tulip Jan 2, 2026, 11:32 AM

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Yeah, lead you typically want endeavour+taunt

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But also

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Lycanroc midday is just better then that

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Faster+can beat scarf rachi lead due to steadfast

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Anyways, weather isn't already great, and while it might get better

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IDT double weather is every going to be more then incredibly gimmicky

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I would pick one or the other

vestal delta Jan 2, 2026, 8:37 PM

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whole tulip Lycanroc midday is just better then that

this one?

vestal delta Jan 2, 2026, 9:25 PM

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whole tulip Lycanroc midday is just better then that

the left one in the image above?

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and can you talk me through why it's gimmicky? I mean, I had to be careful with what order I sent them out in, but I never felt too constrained.

quiet cloak Jan 2, 2026, 9:38 PM

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vestal delta the left one in the image above?

not sure but I think they're talking about the dusk form, it's better as lead since it's slight stronger and very slightly slower with tough claws so it's generally better

vestal delta Jan 2, 2026, 9:39 PM

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but I was using dusk

whole tulip Jan 2, 2026, 9:40 PM

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Yes, the left one. But the primary issue is that you will struggle to perform well since you have to constantly have to change weathers to actually defensively check stuff, so you'll be overwhelemed as if say for instance, ninetales goes down, you basically have a dead slot in venu. Combine that with lycanroc already prob being down before then, and you are potentially play 3 v 5 or something, which is not good

whole tulip Jan 2, 2026, 9:41 PM

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quiet cloak not sure but I think they're talking about the dusk form, it's better as lead si...

While dusk is slightly stronger, that doesn't matter as much. The speed means that maushold cannot try to tidy up on you potentially, it outspeeds opposing dusk lycans and again, the steadfast ability to beat scarf rachi, which no other lead can do.

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The best leads on HO are the ones that are the most reliable, and base lycan is more reliable due to the above traits

vestal delta Jan 2, 2026, 9:59 PM

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so, which would be better then?

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I mean, I'm thinking of keeping that Maushold -> Hurricane/Flamethrower/Defog/Roost Noivern so that I have an answer to either weather.

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Hm, would Rain into having Kilowattrel for double hurricane work? ...It's Setter + 2 sweepers + something that works well in the weather, right?

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something that got used against me to great success a couple times was having a secondary setter with rain dance/sunny day as a move. Skill issue, or good idea?

whole tulip Jan 4, 2026, 3:35 AM

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Manual setters are not good

vestal delta Jan 4, 2026, 3:38 AM

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so, not even as a last-ditch thing?

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Heat Rock + Healing Wish Tales or Boots + Energy Ball or Rock + Energy Ball?

whole tulip Jan 4, 2026, 4:18 AM

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vestal delta so, not even as a last-ditch thing?

No, only thing that is even close to it is prankster users and even then, there are way more moves they want

whole tulip Jan 4, 2026, 4:18 AM

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vestal delta Heat Rock + Healing Wish Tales or Boots + Energy Ball or Rock + Energy Ball?

Heat rock 100%

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Hwish is also best

vestal delta Jan 4, 2026, 4:21 AM

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but then I lose my sun setter, and I hear Torkoal is horrible

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flamethrower + encore + healing wish + wisp, right?

whole tulip Jan 4, 2026, 4:25 AM

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Well, typically weather teams play at a faster pace, which makes the rocks weakness bearable

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And that set is fine yeah

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It's typically fire stab, encore, hwish, filler

vestal delta Jan 4, 2026, 4:25 AM

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a tiny part of me wants to swap wisp for Foul Play

whole tulip Jan 4, 2026, 4:25 AM

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That's prob fine

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Don't really see any issues with that

vestal delta Jan 4, 2026, 4:26 AM

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nails the Barraskewda switch in

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oh, though... I've found myself never using Encore on tales

whole tulip Jan 4, 2026, 4:38 AM

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Encore is really useful for stopping setup and giving your sweepers switchin opportunities

vestal delta Jan 12, 2026, 1:50 AM

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Got a new team that's been doing better than a bunch of recent attempts, but I've got a few concerns: https://pokepast.es/c1b57da832c35c81

2x Setup, 2x Encore (one of which is a setup), 1x Knock Off + Priority (I'm worried about not having enough there), a revenge killer (plus the priority user) and an attacking powerhouse, and a utility to spread paralysis.

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vestal delta Jan 12, 2026, 1:51 AM

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idea is to exploit the team members' immunities/resistances to the others' weaknesses and get a switch-in to set up and demolish the enemy, supported by paralysis and some choice users (I have band, scarf, and specs)

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Then just overwhelm

whole tulip Jan 12, 2026, 9:43 AM

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Ngl, I don't like this team at all really. This team is pretty offensive but has two breakers that really want pivot support, and thus they can't reliably switch in. It also has some pretty fake resists, for example craw isn't really a great water resist due to how it hates scald and its lackluster bulk.
I don't see a way to really keep the team mostly as is, you would have to drop craw and chandy for other things (or different set in the case of craw) or just totally restructure the team

azure scaffold Jan 12, 2026, 11:58 AM

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You are trying an offense with Gardevoir and it doesnt have healing wish?

vestal delta Jan 12, 2026, 7:22 PM

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I previously had Suicune over Craw, but it didn't seem to work. Too much threat of Encore.

vestal delta Jan 12, 2026, 8:12 PM

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azure scaffold You are trying an offense with Gardevoir and it doesnt have healing wish?

And yes. I lack the mindset to use h-wish correctly, so I like to find other options.

vestal delta Jan 12, 2026, 11:50 PM

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whole tulip Ngl, I don't like this team at all really. This team is pretty offensive but has...

I was working with Encore and Trick as my openings to switch. Hm. I could switch Crawdaunt to Empoleon for Flip Turn and Rocks, then switch Jirachi to a Choice Band set to spam Meteor Mash (and have Trick) so I'd have a different physical breaker. Or another powerful brute with fighting/dark moves (Night Slash Gallade, or Lucario to keep a poison immune, EDIT: or a Band Flygon?)

Current new version: https://pokepast.es/91b83db835cfbda5

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new set for jirachi to make it a pivot and my new physical breaker, losing Craw to get a new rocks user.

vestal delta Jan 18, 2026, 3:17 AM

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So, got a new team based on enduring and whittling down the enemy team until I have a chance to sweep: https://pokepast.es/bd7335bfd4929c02

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whole tulip Jan 21, 2026, 1:33 AM

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Uh, I missed this LOL

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I'll do it sometime later today

vestal delta Jan 21, 2026, 1:41 AM

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ah, no need

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I've changed it a lot

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and I need a very strong rework for my Typhlosion Eruption / setup physical sweeper balance

whole tulip Jan 21, 2026, 2:32 AM

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Kay

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I can rate the new team if you want to though

vestal delta Jan 21, 2026, 3:10 AM

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it's still very much in need of alteration

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but when I do settle on something, I've not been shy of coming here

vestal delta Jan 26, 2026, 12:10 AM

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New team entirely: https://pokepast.es/50ae69b7a82464dc

Strategy is to use Webs and then just powerhouse through. Porygon-Z has Agility for if Webs doesn't take, Armarouge to flip the table, a number of them are fast, and if for whatever reason I don't use Webs (Empoleon or Bisharp), then Araquanid has the option to use a slow Endeavor + Custap attack.

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shrewd storm Jan 26, 2026, 10:46 PM

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why not tri attack?

vestal delta Jan 26, 2026, 11:01 PM

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So that if I tera, I get to keep STAB.

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er, get improved STAB and can hit another type

whole tulip Jan 26, 2026, 11:12 PM

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Tera blast is indeed better yeah

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Okay, so think theres a few issues with this team though

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Banded gallade is def overkill

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sd would be way better

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but the primary issue is that there isn't really a great way for this team to punish defog/spin

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no ghost or defiant/comp user

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I'm also not sure about mag+mien

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they aren't too terrible here, but I think theres def better options

vestal delta Jan 26, 2026, 11:18 PM

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I could swap Mag to Competitive Empoleon

vestal delta Jan 27, 2026, 12:01 AM

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So with Competitive Empoleon over Magnezone, should Mien stay or be replaced?

vestal delta Jan 27, 2026, 12:15 AM

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whole tulip Okay, so think theres a few issues with this team though

would a Salac Berry be too niche?

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(meant to reply to the next line, Banded gallade)

whole tulip Jan 27, 2026, 1:53 AM

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vestal delta I could swap Mag to Competitive Empoleon

Thats maybe a fine option

whole tulip Jan 27, 2026, 1:53 AM

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vestal delta So with Competitive Empoleon over Magnezone, should Mien stay or be replaced?

I mean, idk, mien isn't a bad pokemon here, but its def what I would replace with a ghost first

whole tulip Jan 27, 2026, 1:54 AM

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whole tulip Thats maybe a fine option

Actually, just make it a bisharp

whole tulip Jan 27, 2026, 1:54 AM

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vestal delta would a Salac Berry be too niche?

Salac is prob too niche yeah

vestal delta Jan 27, 2026, 2:02 AM

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taking Lum berry then

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the ghost to replace mien... I'm thinking Red Card Mimikyu or something with Golurk

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Hmm, a really slow Golurk could be a counter to Trick Room...

whole tulip Jan 27, 2026, 2:05 AM

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Mimikyu or herscu are the main ones here I think

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gengar is also an option

vestal delta Jan 27, 2026, 2:08 AM

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looking to experiment a little on the bisharp. SD / Sucker / Iron Head / ...Facade, T-Wave, or X-Scissor? Assurance with basically nil for speed?

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...huh, can I make Metal Burst work?

vestal delta Jan 27, 2026, 2:37 AM

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Probably not

whole tulip Jan 27, 2026, 3:33 AM

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All of those aren't good options

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the only really experimentation bisharp has is either low kick or tera blast

static trout Jan 28, 2026, 7:47 PM

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putting a . to join forum thread

autumn ingot Jan 29, 2026, 2:10 AM

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Does anyone have a RU gen team?

safe geode Jan 30, 2026, 9:19 AM

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https://pokepast.es/5092ba0ade6ec53b

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languid lance Feb 7, 2026, 7:57 AM

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[Gen 9 RU Rain Team]
Politoed @ Damp Rock
Ability: Drizzle
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 Spe
Timid Nature

Whirlpool
Perish Song
Ice Beam
Encore

Feraligatr @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

Liquidation
Ice Punch
Tera Blast
Dragon Dance

Araquanid @ Focus Sash
Ability: Water Bubble
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 68 HP / 188 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

Liquidation
Lunge
Sticky Web
Endeavor

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature

Stealth Rock
Thunder Wave
Seismic Toss
Soft-Boiled

Bisharp @ Eviolite
Ability: Defiant
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 176 Spe
Adamant Nature

Swords Dance
Sucker Punch
Iron Head
Throat Chop

Kilowattrel @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Volt Absorb
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

Thunder
Hurricane
Volt Switch
Roost

(I am really bad at teambuilding)

whole tulip Feb 7, 2026, 7:58 AM

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Will review it in a bit, but for future reference you can use https://pokepast.es/

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helps with formatting and such

languid lance Feb 7, 2026, 7:59 AM

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Ohh mb mb

whole tulip Feb 7, 2026, 7:59 AM

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all g

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i can still review it in this state

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just makes it easier

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Okay, so poli and kilo are fine. Kilo I would prob do weather ball over roost though. Feraligatr I think you would prefer tera dark crunch, hits slowbro (which is the primary water) and liquidation in rain hits others like quagsire hard. Bisharp in of itself isn't bad here, but we might need to replace it in the future.
The primary issues I see are araq and blissey. They are fine pokemon on their own on rain, though more specific. The thing is, you don't have any swift swim mons. That is the core part of rain teams. The main ones would be barraskewda, basculegion-f and overqwil. I think theres three ways to do this.

Replace araq with a swift swimmer (keeps the structure the same. Would also need to do like, eject button or boots on blissey ngl)
Replace blissey on the team with a swift swimmer and that would also mean you have to make bisharp a jirachi (rocks, iron head, u-turn, filler would be fine) since you don't have a rocker now
Replace araq+blissey with swift swimmers and then make bisharp a jirachi.

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Oh, actually, if you keep araq, make it another item

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sash is fine, but araq is bulky enough to live most hits

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would also make araq a lot slower since IDT the speed is needed

languid lance Feb 7, 2026, 8:08 AM

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I was worried about the team not having a defensive backbone without Blissey

whole tulip Feb 7, 2026, 8:08 AM

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You can keep blissey then yeah

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Rain teams usually are more fast paced

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so you can prob do option 1 I think

languid lance Feb 7, 2026, 8:08 AM

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Okie

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https://pokepast.es/e99c626ad42143a6

I changed Blissey for Choice Band Barraskewda & replaced Roost with Weather Ball on Kilowattrel

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languid lance Feb 7, 2026, 8:21 AM

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I kept Tera Electric + Tera Blast on Feraligatr just cuz I wanted to make the team around an Electric Feraligatr & kept Bisharp since I thought rain synergized well with it (helps with fire weakness & has Tera Fying for Fighting & Ground weakness)

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I am also thinking about maybe changing Araquanid for Quagsire with Stealth Rock which might be more useful than webs especially with Swift Swim Barraskewda & DD Feraligatr

whole tulip Feb 7, 2026, 8:30 AM

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Alright, so if you want to use any sorta tera blast feraligatr, it 100% has to be grass

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since gastro and quag are good water types in the tier and will just beat you

whole tulip Feb 7, 2026, 8:31 AM

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languid lance I am also thinking about maybe changing Araquanid for Quagsire with Stealth Rock...

I would make this change though. No rocks is def not good

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I would also change barra to a different set

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CC is necessary for barra to do damage, and adamant is better since you outspeed everything in rain already

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You could swap out jet actually too

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since you have bisharp for prio

whole tulip Feb 7, 2026, 8:32 AM

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whole tulip I would make this change though. No rocks is def not good

For rocker, I would do rocky helmet swampert

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keeps up momentum for the team

languid lance Feb 7, 2026, 8:39 AM

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Updated Team w/ Quagsire: https://pokepast.es/36214e2f1f294634
Same Team w/ Swampert: https://pokepast.es/880ec8b9233abfc7

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Tera Grass on Feraligatr would def be better but again I wanted to make a team around Tera Electric Gatr

whole tulip Feb 7, 2026, 9:03 AM

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this looks fine yeah

languid lance Feb 7, 2026, 9:09 AM

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Bettt tysm

languid lance Feb 8, 2026, 7:04 PM

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After doing some testing tera grass is def a lot better

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https://pokepast.es/3a22a3c358fb0f90 - Original Swampert
https://pokepast.es/dd02aa1fc02a8183 - Gastrodon Memento

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versed steppe Feb 8, 2026, 9:21 PM

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https://pokepast.es/de5530e5190f76d3 - gen 8

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whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 12:12 AM

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languid lance https://pokepast.es/3a22a3c358fb0f90 - Original Swampert https://pokepast.es/dd0...

Prob would go pert version ngl

whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 12:13 AM

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versed steppe https://pokepast.es/de5530e5190f76d3 - gen 8

Uh, I don't play gen 8 ru that much, but I think this looks fine

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Actually

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nah, nevermind

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geezing set you could do something over tspikes or sludge but it generally looks fine

quiet cloak Feb 9, 2026, 10:38 AM

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https://pokepast.es/3be87220b5521f0f is this good?

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whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 10:51 AM

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Uh, this team is a mix between a HO and a BO

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you have a-tales and a few sweepers

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but also have slowbro and cyclizar

whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 10:52 AM

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quiet cloak https://pokepast.es/3be87220b5521f0f is this good?

Do you wanna center it around veil a-tales or is that not really important for the team?

quiet cloak Feb 9, 2026, 10:52 AM

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whole tulip Do you wanna center it around veil a-tales or is that not really important for t...

to be honest I was going for BO with veil being there as extra protection

whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 10:53 AM

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Well, veil a-tales on BO isn't really worthwhile tbh. Its rocks weak and BO teams don't typically need the extra protection it provides

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You could do NP tales

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which is a fine set

quiet cloak Feb 9, 2026, 10:57 AM

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whole tulip Well, veil a-tales on BO isn't really worthwhile tbh. Its rocks weak and BO team...

can I switch it with something else that boosts the bulk?

whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 10:58 AM

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You could switch it for a defensive pokemon yes

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Idk how else you would boost the bulk though

quiet cloak Feb 9, 2026, 11:01 AM

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whole tulip You could switch it for a defensive pokemon yes

maybe something like spikes chesn?

whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 11:10 AM

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Hm, you need a ground here ngl

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yeah ngl, looking at it closer, think this needs a bit more of an overhall

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Maus I think doesn't really work as great here

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Prob could do like, ches over that

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and then put a ground with stealth rocks over atales

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then prob make gengar scarf for speed control and the team is prob fine then

quiet cloak Feb 9, 2026, 11:16 AM

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whole tulip Hm, you need a ground here ngl

something like gastro but with rocks instead of spikes?

whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 11:16 AM

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Yes

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Flygon is probably a decent option here ngl

quiet cloak Feb 9, 2026, 11:20 AM

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whole tulip Flygon is probably a decent option here ngl

flygon is actually usable?

whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 11:20 AM

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Yes

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definetely

quiet cloak Feb 9, 2026, 11:22 AM

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whole tulip Yes

https://pokepast.es/a6e9fb254f052c58 this the team with reworks, although idk if it's still BO right now

whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 11:23 AM

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Its more of a balance actually yeah, think making it flygon would quicken the pace a decent amount

quiet cloak Feb 9, 2026, 11:29 AM

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whole tulip Its more of a balance actually yeah, think making it flygon would quicken the pa...

hey say we to the HO route what are the changes I should make on it? (the original one)

whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 11:30 AM

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Hm, I would prob make slowbro a cetitan and cyclizar a meteor beam armarouge ngl

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And also maybe make crawdaunt focus sash

quiet cloak Feb 9, 2026, 11:42 AM

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whole tulip Hm, I would prob make slowbro a cetitan and cyclizar a meteor beam armarouge ngl

wait what's the set for mb armar?

whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 11:49 AM

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Meteor beam with power herb, rest of the set is normal armarouge (stabs+energy ball with weak armour)

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Cetitan is also slush rush with belly drum, ice stab, ice shard, eq and tera ground

quiet cloak Feb 9, 2026, 11:55 AM

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whole tulip Meteor beam with power herb, rest of the set is normal armarouge (stabs+energy b...

is psyshock good for stall match up

whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 11:55 AM

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Yes

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use psyshock

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thats prob its best stab move

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*psychic stab move

quiet cloak Feb 9, 2026, 11:56 AM

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whole tulip Yes

ok thx for the help

whole tulip Feb 9, 2026, 11:57 AM

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np

versed steppe Feb 10, 2026, 4:40 PM

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whole tulip Uh, I don't play gen 8 ru that much, but I think this looks fine

I don't lose to Toxicoroak?

whole tulip Feb 11, 2026, 3:41 AM

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Think the teams mu against croak is fine enough, either you can pp stall it with suicune or just beat it with xatu

azure scaffold Feb 13, 2026, 5:47 PM

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versed steppe https://pokepast.es/de5530e5190f76d3 - gen 8

Team is very slow, has trouble into electric + physical attacker and also heracross is annoying but the latter isnt too bad. Aside from that, Rose beats Xatu so spikes are annoying. Whats the plan on breaking milo?

versed steppe Feb 13, 2026, 6:29 PM

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azure scaffold Team is very slow, has trouble into electric + physical attacker and also heracr...

https://pokepast.es/584b3b447cae0a8f

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:01 AM

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I built this originally off of wanting to make a couple weaker mons work: https://pokepast.es/596a75cdca27fe35

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vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:02 AM

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I am aware that it has... issues.

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:03 AM

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vestal delta I am *aware* that it has... issues.

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-wink-yes-आँख-मारना-gif-8217027264632943344

Tenor

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Lemme just look over the team more

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:04 AM

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Typhlosion-H was meant to be the weaker mon to make use of

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:06 AM

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Okay, so first up, hyploshion is pretty bad, only niche it has is on sun, otheriwse its completely outclassed by chandelure who just does its wallbreaking job better.
Secondly, you have no entry hazards (tspikes is not enough to justify no rocks/spikes), so your team will struggle into teams that can just switch around threats.
Thirdly, you have two choice lock mons, but don't have the defensive backbone to support them, av mag+tenta is not enough.

IDT I can see a way to really make this team better without completely restructuring it.

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:07 AM

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that's what I was afraid of

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Tentacruel -> Swampert for rocks to start?

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:07 AM

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Theres just too many core issues I see ngl

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Idk, thats a start ig

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But three grounds seems a bit overkill though

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scald would also wreck you

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:08 AM

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Vaporeon, then, and someone else for hazards?

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:09 AM

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Yes

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:09 AM

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I could swap out Torterra for Maushold for hazard removal, leaving adding them todo...

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:09 AM

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I think vapo, garde, mag is fine as a starting core

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:09 AM

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vestal delta I could swap out Torterra for Maushold for hazard *removal*, leaving adding them...

I wouldn't run maus with vapo ngl

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They are used on different playstyles

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:10 AM

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so I'm restructuring to a more defensive playstyle?

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:10 AM

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I would yes

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If you want to go more offensive, there would have to be a different route

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Which we can do

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:11 AM

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typhlosion to defog/roost/u-turn/FB or BB talonflame?

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I specify Flare Blitz because I really hate Chesnaught

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and it often tries to tera steel in my face

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:12 AM

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vestal delta typhlosion to defog/roost/u-turn/FB or BB talonflame?

This is prob fine yeah

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And flare blitz is fine

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:13 AM

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I could swap Torterra for... Rock Polish Rhyperior?

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:13 AM

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You need rocks

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I would prob lean krookodile though

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Vapo, garde, mag, talon, krook

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Krook gives you a dark and ghost resist

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:14 AM

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leaves me vulnerable to freeze dry + tera blast ground from a-tails

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:15 AM

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Tblast ground a-tales is niche, but you can prob fit something last to help

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:15 AM

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flygon's a bad choice too, you think?

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(I like the +2 priority...)

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...Boots Entei?

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:16 AM

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Uh, boots entei is prob fine

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Could go lycanroc-dusk too

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:17 AM

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oh, I just remembered acid spray goodra-h

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swords dance on lycanrock or all-out attacker? ...Given base 110 speed, I'm thinking SD for the brutal Close Combat?

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:19 AM

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SD probably

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:22 AM

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Oh, since my style doesn't let me use Healing Wish on Gardevoir, perhaps I could use a different move?

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:24 AM

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You could drop h-wish yes, though its still a good tool

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:25 AM

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(oh, if I were using a Sun team, what item would Typhlosion have run?)

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:25 AM

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Specs or scarf

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:27 AM

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Figured.

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new version: https://pokepast.es/1fdfce71000febd0

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well, entirely new team.

whole tulip Feb 18, 2026, 4:38 AM

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This looks fine I think. Personally think crunch over stedge on lycanroc though

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Also change talon tera type

vestal delta Feb 18, 2026, 4:41 AM

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Oh right

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thanks

split geyser Feb 18, 2026, 10:51 PM

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gen 3 ru rain team: https://pokepast.es/32bbe82ed8df3c6f

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whole tulip Feb 19, 2026, 1:18 AM

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Uh, idk if gen 3 ru rain is good at all lol

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idk, team looks mostly fine

split geyser Feb 19, 2026, 1:45 AM

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I just did it for laughs tbh

quartz dirge Feb 22, 2026, 8:45 PM

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Is it good

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Hoopa my fav pokemon so i dont really want to change it exept for the others on the team

whole tulip Feb 23, 2026, 12:48 AM

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Hitmonlee and galvantula are unviable while cincinno is niche. I would drop all of them. Additionally, your other sets are bad. Hoopa should always have either psychic noise or psyshock while gallade should be SD and noivern set doesn't make sense at all

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For your other mons I would just use the sample sets firstly, though if you go for a webs approach I would not run noivern

safe geode Feb 24, 2026, 6:58 PM

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https://pokepast.es/8aa9ab825e577771

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safe geode Feb 24, 2026, 6:58 PM

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wanna build around terrakion and reuniclus

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was wondering if suicune can do some damage here

whole tulip Feb 26, 2026, 2:22 AM

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If you want to use tblast Terrak, I would generally use tblast grass as it also hits quag/gastro. You also don't have any hazard removal on a squad which 100% wants it so I would do defog over U-turn on talon.

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Team looks generally fine though

quiet cloak Feb 27, 2026, 4:06 PM

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https://pokepast.es/04eeeecbbbc9e327

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quiet cloak https://pokepast.es/04eeeecbbbc9e327

uh, i forgor about this sorry.

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But on first glance, your team seems really fighting weak

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5 fighting weaks+gastro is not good

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IDT you need all the special tanks, I would prob drop one of them

shut venture Mar 2, 2026, 10:22 PM

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https://pokepast.es/1b0c6812cfd7cbdc What should i change for this team?

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shut venture Mar 2, 2026, 10:23 PM

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kinda help against ground types

whole tulip Mar 2, 2026, 10:25 PM

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Yeah, your team just kinda instantly loses to ground types. I would prob make gengar scarf then swap out terrakion for a flying type. Would also suggest you make regi rocks and make gastro spikes to give you a better wincon

shut venture Mar 2, 2026, 10:28 PM

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whole tulip Yeah, your team just kinda instantly loses to ground types. I would prob make ge...

wut flying type u think is da best

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for the team

whole tulip Mar 2, 2026, 10:43 PM

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Hm, I could see talonflame as a good replacement ngl

shut venture Mar 2, 2026, 10:44 PM

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aight

willow yarrow Mar 6, 2026, 1:28 AM

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https://pokepast.es/adf8351070b1034f any moveset/ev/item changes I could make to this team? I would also be fine with swapping blissey and piloswine out to fit the other 4 more (im not planning anything grand with this team)

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vestal delta Mar 6, 2026, 3:25 AM

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Old team stopped working for me, so now I have a team that's mostly brute force but can mode swap to a setup sweeper, weakened stall, or stallbreaker: https://pokepast.es/f312e68abd4e6c18

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(quite certain Coalossal would be worse than my unironic use of Forretress, and Tentacruel doesn't really work for my personal style. Really want hazards + hazard removal on the same one.)

whole tulip Mar 7, 2026, 7:54 AM

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willow yarrow https://pokepast.es/adf8351070b1034f any moveset/ev/item changes I could make to...

Yeah, this team is just pretty bad ngl. You have a grafaiai but then also a stall? IDT theres any way to salvage this team ngl, it just isn't good. I would use samples to get an idea of how mons function. Like for example, blissey would much prefer t-wave over body slam

whole tulip Mar 7, 2026, 7:56 AM

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vestal delta Old team stopped working for me, so now I have a team that's mostly brute force ...

I also think this team struggles in a key few areas. Firstly, you have no rocks. Secondly, you have a banded crawdaunt with only one way of pivoting it in (which is insanely easy to block). I think you just need to either stick to HO or balance for this team, its trying to do both and failing

amber falcon Mar 8, 2026, 12:01 AM

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https://pokepast.es/851deeb409ffc18e
how buns is this?

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whole tulip I also think this team struggles in a key few areas. Firstly, you have no rocks....

Would swapping Spikes to Rocks be good then? And maybe swapping Umbreon to Wish+U-Turn Jirachi?

whole tulip Mar 8, 2026, 2:53 AM

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vestal delta Would swapping Spikes to Rocks be good then? And maybe swapping Umbreon to Wish+...

maybe

vestal delta Mar 8, 2026, 2:58 AM

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in the time between asking and now, I did an overhaul

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...only Gengar stayed the same

vestal delta Mar 8, 2026, 3:57 AM

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but why are rocks so much more important than spikes?

spark sapphire Mar 8, 2026, 3:57 AM

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Rocks can’t be avoided unless they use HDB

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Spikes can be avoided by flying types, and levitating Pokémon

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When you get to the nitty-gritty, rocks ends up doing more damage in culmination

vestal delta Mar 8, 2026, 4:02 AM

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Hm. I like the option to set up a 2nd round if I anticipate a protect or something.

whole tulip Mar 8, 2026, 4:41 AM

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What angel said basically

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spikes are fine but they need to be paired with rocks

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rocks are not only able to be setup much easier due to the amount of setters but its also the fact its going to get value in 99% of games

vestal delta Mar 8, 2026, 5:21 AM

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maybe I should try Stall again

gentle coral Mar 10, 2026, 8:35 PM

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wanted to try at nat dex ru team idk if i did even slightly right
https://pokepast.es/79d0a3db1ddba901

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gentle coral Mar 13, 2026, 6:12 AM

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This dead

spark sapphire Mar 13, 2026, 6:13 AM

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I’m not sure if anyone of the 3 knows anything about Nat Dec RU 😅

gentle coral Mar 13, 2026, 2:52 PM

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spark sapphire I’m not sure if anyone of the 3 knows anything about Nat Dec RU 😅

ah

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well i mena ru is kinda similiar no? well at least partially-

spark sapphire Mar 13, 2026, 9:00 PM

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Lot more Pokémon and also megas and z moves…

whole tulip Mar 14, 2026, 2:39 AM

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Uh, i missed this lol

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But natdex ru and regular ru are very different

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however, I do know enough about ndru to rate it

whole tulip Mar 14, 2026, 2:42 AM

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gentle coral wanted to try at nat dex ru team idk if i did even slightly right https://pokepa...

I think frankly put, you struggle IMMENSLY into zeraora, since nothing wants to take its moves, best you have is latias but even then. I think amuk is redundant on this team, so put a grass like AV tang over it. For your other sets, I think the toge set is not justifying volcanion since it lets in glimm for free and your answers are meh. Would either replace toge with another hazard remover that does better into it or just make volc boots/another water.

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Latias should be mystical fire over aura sphere, would also consider firium z on it

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Krook IDT needs three dark moves, would prob make it something like gunk over darkest lariat maybe

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Cobalion set is okay ig, but I think a defensive set with t-wave volt is a lot better here

gentle coral Mar 14, 2026, 6:18 AM

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Aha oki

gentle coral Mar 14, 2026, 8:35 AM

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also ty

gentle coral Mar 15, 2026, 5:20 PM

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whole tulip I think frankly put, you struggle IMMENSLY into zeraora, since nothing wants to ...

ah question is a good idea for a slowking instead of togekiss or not really

whole tulip Mar 15, 2026, 8:53 PM

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Slowking isn't currently RU

gentle coral Mar 16, 2026, 2:41 PM

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whole tulip Slowking isn't currently RU

It showed it was national dex ru-

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Still if not it who can be good

rocky blaze Mar 16, 2026, 6:52 PM

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https://pokepast.es/55be8cf3961c1225
Fun team I build recently with my dpp knowledge. I love the random ass houndstone since nobody seems to know what it does, but certaintly I'm not experienced in this tier and I don't know if it will get me to 1400 on ladder yet. The body press slot on mew (or mew slot in general) can probably be replaced. Same with Flamigo. I'm not sure what is actually viable here or just happened to feel solid to me in bottom ladder

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rocky blaze Mar 16, 2026, 7:04 PM

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Oh btw, I forgot to put a tera on hound. I guess tera fighting can work

quiet cloak Mar 18, 2026, 1:45 PM

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https://pokepast.es/9d571182f4390750 how bad is this?

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vestal delta Mar 18, 2026, 5:41 PM

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Isn't Hippowdon UU now?

quiet cloak Mar 18, 2026, 5:44 PM

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vestal delta Isn't Hippowdon UU now?

wait

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oh damn it ;-;

quiet cloak Mar 18, 2026, 5:45 PM

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vestal delta Isn't Hippowdon UU now?

no one saw that

whole tulip Mar 18, 2026, 7:58 PM

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quiet cloak https://pokepast.es/9d571182f4390750 how bad is this?

I can't give a full review rn, but from first glance this seems to check all the main team building boxes

quiet cloak Mar 19, 2026, 12:32 PM

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quiet cloak https://pokepast.es/9d571182f4390750 how bad is this?

still nothing ;-;

whole tulip Mar 19, 2026, 11:00 PM

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Main change I would make is surf over flip turn on empo, sludge bomb over ice beam on gastro and potentially replace slowbro with reuniclus

quiet cloak Mar 19, 2026, 11:38 PM

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whole tulip Main change I would make is surf over flip turn on empo, sludge bomb over ice be...

is it good tho? also is the slowbro replacement neccesery?

whole tulip Mar 19, 2026, 11:42 PM

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the general team is fine, and while its not 100% necessary, 3 water types is a bit overkill

quiet cloak Mar 19, 2026, 11:44 PM

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whole tulip Main change I would make is surf over flip turn on empo, sludge bomb over ice be...

btw is surf and sludge bomb for some thing specfic?

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also yeah it might be too much but one immunity and resist that both can tank hit for a day SHOULD be fine and if anything tera is there soo

whole tulip Mar 20, 2026, 12:09 AM

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quiet cloak btw is surf and sludge bomb for some thing specfic?

Surf on empo allows it to be a lot more immediately threatening

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Sludge bomb on gastro makes it spread poison which can be useful into some walls while you don't need ice beam since empo has it

quiet cloak Mar 20, 2026, 1:16 AM

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whole tulip Surf on empo allows it to be a lot more immediately threatening

sry forget to respond, okay sure on gastro but still on empo having pivoting isn't bad either right?

whole tulip Mar 20, 2026, 1:18 AM

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Pivoting isnt bad yes, but your empo currently doesn't exert a lot of pressure

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You also have three mons that can pivot already so it isn't the worst thing in the world to drop flip

gentle coral Mar 20, 2026, 5:37 PM

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whole tulip Slowking isn't currently RU

well so how i asked before even if its not what good water i can place instead

whole tulip Mar 20, 2026, 9:06 PM

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gentle coral well so how i asked before even if its not what good water i can place instead

Milo is prob the best replacement

vestal delta Mar 21, 2026, 2:00 AM

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So, I decided that I hate enemy items enough to take Knock Off x5 so there's no switching to an itemless mon when I bring a Knock Off user in: https://pokepast.es/9f8fa4ed16bd4447

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vestal delta Mar 21, 2026, 4:16 AM

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...I do notice that Fighting and Fairy are problematic to me

gentle coral Mar 21, 2026, 5:50 PM

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whole tulip Milo is prob the best replacement

who is milo-

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Milotic?

spark sapphire Mar 21, 2026, 5:52 PM

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yes

gentle coral Mar 21, 2026, 5:54 PM

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spark sapphire yes

so set like this? i dont get why not like flame orb but ig its separate story
Milotic @ Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 108 Def / 148 SpD
Calm Nature

Scald
Recover
Toxic
Ice Beam

spark sapphire Mar 21, 2026, 5:56 PM

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gentle coral so set like this? i dont get why not like flame orb but ig its separate story M...

Leftovers let’s you get recovery, you will be coming in on a slowbro scald, you will be getting burned eventually

gentle coral Mar 21, 2026, 5:57 PM

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well i didnt see many slowbros

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still is it good too if come to like toxic spikes or just stuff like that can condition if no really good switches?

spark sapphire Mar 21, 2026, 5:59 PM

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Maybe not 2 layers of t-spikes, but definitely 1 layer

gentle coral Mar 21, 2026, 6:02 PM

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yesh oki

vestal delta Mar 21, 2026, 9:30 PM

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So, my Knock Off team (and almost certainly how to make it less Fairy/Fighting weak)? https://pokepast.es/9f8fa4ed16bd4447

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vestal delta Mar 21, 2026, 9:57 PM

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(Mew in place of Chesnaught for pivot + knock off?)

whole tulip Mar 22, 2026, 12:51 AM

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Hm

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main issue I see ngl

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is that you have one ground resist but no immunes

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I think going something like talonflame over armarouge

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is prob best here

vestal delta Mar 22, 2026, 1:15 AM

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Sacrificing one of my sweepers?

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Oh, regarding my thought of Mew over Chesnaught: Body Press / Drain Punch / Knock Off (or other) / U-Turn, or keep as is, or another mon entirely?

vestal delta Mar 22, 2026, 1:40 AM

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actually nvm the Ches question, the ironpress hilarity wins so often

whole tulip Mar 22, 2026, 1:44 AM

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vestal delta Oh, regarding my thought of Mew over Chesnaught: Body Press / Drain Punch / Knoc...

Well, then you would have no ground resists

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which is a massive issue

vestal delta Mar 22, 2026, 1:49 AM

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I sort of just realized: lack of priority on my team = lack of revenge if someone sets up first

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could I swap Krook for a Bisharp or something with Shadow Sneak?

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Maybe Banded Gallade?

static trout Mar 26, 2026, 12:40 PM

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https://pokepast.es/cdd7bbf3d3b0348b

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static trout Mar 26, 2026, 12:41 PM

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just a dumb idea due to someone i know lol

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preferably keeping infernape for sun, that is all.

whole tulip Mar 27, 2026, 12:37 AM

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static trout https://pokepast.es/cdd7bbf3d3b0348b

Running sun is fine, but heat rock cyclizar is def not it, run either ninetales or torkoal if you want to use sun

flint roost Mar 27, 2026, 5:47 PM

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https://pokepast.es/8ce629e395be46a7
is this good for sv?

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whole tulip Mar 28, 2026, 4:12 AM

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this team seems fine yeah

static trout Mar 28, 2026, 5:05 AM

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whole tulip Running sun is fine, but heat rock cyclizar is def not it, run either ninetales ...

dude ngl i just thought it was banned due to natdexru banning it idk why 😭

dense flax Apr 3, 2026, 5:31 PM

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Really wanted to build around necrozma. First time buillding with RU: https://pokepast.es/d30a8285a513e722

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the necrozma set is fine, but aside from wo-chien, all the other mons you have partnered with it are either unviable or incredibly niche

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they don't even have bad sets, but these mons are going to struggle in the tier

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If you replace them with the mons that are more viable in the tier then I could prob more accurately rate it

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That would prob be gengar over chandy, terrakion/mienshao over tauros, noivern or such over gengar (some sort of flying type) and registeel over orthworm

vestal delta Apr 6, 2026, 7:51 PM

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With Talonflame being moved to UU, I replaced it with a Noivern on this team:

https://pokepast.es/07655f5a0ea9910f

I know I'm weak to Fighting and Fairy and I worry about it, but for some reason, I haven't really suffered too much because of it.

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vestal delta Apr 6, 2026, 7:51 PM

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or: if Iron Valiant dropped to RU, I'd just lose to it.

spark sapphire Apr 6, 2026, 8:46 PM

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Scarf Gardevoir though

vestal delta Apr 6, 2026, 8:59 PM

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Yeah, I am concerned there. My best hope there is to use my Tera to get a Knock Off in and then outspeed. Or Gallade catching Garde with a Shadow Sneak.

vestal delta Apr 6, 2026, 11:36 PM

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I considered TrickScarf + Healing Wish in Noivern's slot, either a Gardevoir of my own or a Jirachi

whole tulip Apr 7, 2026, 1:08 AM

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Yeah, this team struggles a lot with fairy types, your single resist is also a dragon type so...

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You also lack great speed control

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fastest mon vern with prio shadow sneak gallade isnt enough

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I think you replace goodra with a better steel type

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then maybe replace gallade with something else

vestal delta Apr 7, 2026, 1:20 AM

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Re Gallade: I have a weird Lucario build that's meant to play to the role, specced to outpseed things that beat scarfed timid rotom-H as well as Scarf Regidrago/Garde and +1 Necrozma

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...and tera normal is a holdover from a version that had Espeed

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-> fighting

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Regarding Goodra, I'm gravitating towards some sort of Bronzong

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Or this for my Goodra-H replacement

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(oh, question re the tier shift thread: "Also rises are frozen now so evil UU can never take Slowbro." Are all tiers fixed except for moves to BL?)

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Hm... Entei over Gallade?

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Or Terrakion? I want something that shreds defense boosters

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New version feels off to me, I think I want more special attack power than Noivern (and an odd Draco Meteor from Cyclizar)

https://pokepast.es/47505c2358a4d2b6

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whole tulip Apr 7, 2026, 2:02 AM

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I wouldn't run stored power on zong, psychic noise is way better

whole tulip Apr 7, 2026, 2:02 AM

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nothing can rise to a tier, drops are still able to happen

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this generally looks a lot better

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I think d-tail on bike though

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you have mmq but having a phazer is important against stuff like suicune and slowbro

vestal delta Apr 7, 2026, 2:05 AM

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so I now have a SD and two IronPressers

whole tulip Apr 7, 2026, 2:15 AM

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hm

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i would make ches spikes then ngl

vestal delta Apr 7, 2026, 2:25 AM

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changed, then. (A part of me still wants to find a way to make Lucario work as better than C- but every time, something better shows up.)

quiet cloak Apr 7, 2026, 2:00 PM

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https://pokepast.es/c4ca70e235219138

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Aside from maus, this team is mostly fine

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would make bisharp max speed low kick though

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but yeah, replace maus with a ground resist like torterra, torn or flygon

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cause removing your own webs isn't good

quiet cloak Apr 8, 2026, 12:19 AM

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whole tulip cause removing your own webs isn't good

..wdym by removing my own webs?

whole tulip Apr 8, 2026, 12:28 AM

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Tidy up removes sticky webs from your opponents side

quiet cloak Apr 8, 2026, 12:29 AM

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whole tulip Tidy up removes sticky webs from your opponents side

wait are you sure? literally the first time I heard about this

whole tulip Apr 8, 2026, 12:30 AM

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yes

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thats how it works

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tidy up removes hazards (which includes webs) from both sides of the field

quiet cloak Apr 8, 2026, 12:35 AM

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jut checked google, literally never know that, thought it just cleared your own hazards

quiet cloak Apr 8, 2026, 12:37 AM

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whole tulip yes

btw is sd breloom is good?

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in here

whole tulip Apr 8, 2026, 12:38 AM

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its prob fine enough yeah

quiet cloak Apr 8, 2026, 12:41 AM

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whole tulip its prob fine enough yeah

what's the set specfically

whole tulip Apr 8, 2026, 12:51 AM

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SD, CC, bullet seed, aerial ace probably

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with loaded dice

vestal delta Apr 8, 2026, 2:56 AM

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whole tulip SD, CC, bullet seed, aerial ace probably

quoting to note that I went up against a substitute + facade + focus punch + seed bomb Breloom, and a Tera Ghost Chesnaught considers it to be setup fodder. So, something that doesn't just lose to Ches is good.

quiet cloak Apr 8, 2026, 11:44 AM

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whole tulip SD, CC, bullet seed, aerial ace probably

full atk and spe?

whole tulip Apr 8, 2026, 11:55 AM

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Yes

quiet cloak Apr 8, 2026, 4:02 PM

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https://pokepast.es/9cc0299b17d670b8

vivid rootBOT Apr 8, 2026, 4:02 PM

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New [Gen 9] RU RMT @small spruce, @whole tulip, @spark sapphire. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

whole tulip Apr 8, 2026, 8:09 PM

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AV on Cyclizar, would prob do competitive on kilo and change stedge on krook for either cc or crunch

copper tulip Apr 11, 2026, 7:38 AM

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@whole tulip this was the team you helped me out with https://pokepast.es/a8a5094bb213f16c now mew is banned so i am using phione now this is the new team https://pokepast.es/841d8b36a3f92bee can you please help me with the phione set?

whole tulip Apr 11, 2026, 8:39 AM

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Phione is completely unviable

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Like, completely unviable

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AKA I would actively reccomend against it

copper tulip Apr 11, 2026, 10:41 AM

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whole tulip AKA I would actively reccomend against it

yeah but i have fun using the mythicals

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ig i will stick with this set cuz it worked out the best for me

half mulch Apr 12, 2026, 3:28 AM

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Plus your team too…

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Is very much unviable even from the perspective of a non RU player

trim parrot Apr 13, 2026, 12:03 AM

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my first RU team i built myself. after my first battle i won with this...thoughts?

whole tulip Apr 13, 2026, 12:25 AM

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Not trying to be rude, but this team is completely unviable. While the pokemon are fine, the sets and team comp are not

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I really think you should check out samples and see what they do in order to see what they employ

trim parrot Apr 13, 2026, 3:40 AM

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ah

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i wanted to have fun with making something on my own rather than just settling for the samples

whole tulip Apr 13, 2026, 6:49 AM

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I get the idea about having fun by making your own sets, you can still have that and I shouldn't be one to prevent you from doing that

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but these unfortauntely aren't viable

trim parrot Apr 13, 2026, 6:17 PM

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i see

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