#LC Rates

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limber widget
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But yeah, what coco said

frail hedge
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Wait you’re right

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How can that even happen?

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I thought it auto switched to 31 if u had a physical move

limber widget
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Good question

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Idk

acoustic furnace
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curse power band gyro ball pineco with a trick room mon

sonic sentinel
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gyro ball uses raw speed stats lol

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so it's always gonna be lower power than at level 100

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setting aside major issues pinecone has like Vullaby existing

young grail
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Pineco is already p unviable unfortunately

Bro is mad slow and has no longevity

acoustic furnace
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so its a bad strat then?

sullen osprey
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yes

devout nymph
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Older team that i had made with snivy and porygon, now revised, so i was wondering now how to optimize it
https://pokepast.es/fc9f6965f1a0941c

I was wondering how to fit a good ground resist/immunity, but i didnt know where kirbyUH

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sweet ingot
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vullaby

sullen osprey
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yeah this needs a vull check

sweet ingot
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probably over corphish

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i would probably replace drilbur with a glimmet yea

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or a mudbray

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tho mudbray as ur vull answer is worrywhirl

sullen osprey
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i think one of one of mag/dogs gotta go

sweet ingot
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yea u dont need 2 scarfers

sullen osprey
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yea but i also wouldnt drop drilbur u rly want removal

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probably smth like tink over mag is what id do

sweet ingot
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id still put vull over corphish

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though i like ur idea

devout nymph
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devout nymph
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catheart ty

sullen osprey
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hf!

tall marten
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What do you think

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tender perch
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completely unviable

tall marten
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Why

tender perch
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all of these mons bar toeds suck

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and the sets are all over the place

tall marten
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Yea sorry bout that I just started and want to learn

tender perch
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i would recc checking out the samples first before making teams

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just to have a good idea of what to build

tall marten
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Ok thx

tender perch
vital crypt
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so, you are playing lc and have only 2 eviolites

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and besides toeds all of your mons are kinda bad

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vital crypt
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that you might like

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water toeds might be better

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kinda weak to lo gastly tho but every team is ig

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maybe scarf dog should help

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if you want more teams or any help you can pm me ^^

molten jewel
# tall marten https://pokepast.es/be3a8690b37377e0

for a spiker try glimmet or maybe chespin if you like being weird, quaxly gets completely outclassed at everything it trues to do, maybe vullaby? instead of solosis you could try gothita, nosepass is kinda bad, if you really want that rock you can use glimmet or rocks growlithe hisui, that eggs strat wont work, maybe you want a foongus?

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when building for a tier you arent experienced with yet you might want to have the lc resources open

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as andre said above you generally want eviolite on everything unless very specific circumstances

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you can see which mons are good or "viable" with this

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there are sample sets as well on smogon as well as analyses for most of them

stiff jungle
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Thoughts on this team? I've seen some success with this

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stiff jungle
# stiff jungle Thoughts on this team? I've seen some success with this

Impidimp does it's thing: set up the screens with light clay, then possibly get a parting to further weaken the opponent's offenses
Vullaby acts as a switch in to ground types which can tear by team apart otherwise, and y'know, knock off is actually very good move! It can also safe everyone from a high jump kick from Mienfoo if it's at full health, then KO it back with a strong brave bird. It's just the set from Smogon but it works very well here.
Cinccino really likes it's setup move in tidy up because it clears hazards without getting rid of screens, and then go to town with STAB tail slap (the acc may let it down) and bullet seed, which isn't thank god it's not contact. I'm actually thinking about replacing it with rock blast to hit H-Voltorb. Knock Off hits ghosts.
Larvitar is awesome with guts because it doesn't care about guts and can switch in on Toxic Spikes to get a boost. Also, tera dragon turns it's 4x weakness to grass and water into a resistance, and absolutely folds H-Voltorb if so. I could replace Iron Head for something else.
Croagunk acts as my special attacking backbone, which everyone expects to be physical. Immunity to water is very useful too. Shadow Ball can hit certain pokemon, mainly psychic and ghost types.
Meowth is here for revenge killing. Fake out + feint is a hell of a combo! Knock off is, again, to hit ghosts and take away some eviolites. U-turn does its thing.

young grail
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please use the pokepaste link in the future

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the images work, but having the paste makes it easier for adjustments and being able to have the entire team

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the issue is that most of that team loses to mienfoo + voltorb

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screens puts in work, but your defensive backbone is really lacking for the most part

meowth has anti-synergy with screens as a result of not being a sweeper

it can revenge kill and is good speed control, but what you're aiming for with impidimp is a Hyper Offense team that utilizes the screens support to get your sweepers in position

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in addition, most pokemon aren't max speed. the reason why this is an issue is because at level 5, most pokemon's speed stats are extremely important in their matchups and are extremely close together

mienfoo's max speed is 17
vullaby's max speed is 16
voltorb's max is 20

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the team also struggles vs foongus, pawniard, mudbray and stunky

Foongus spores something and causes a big momentum loss in addition to being hard to break

Mudbray can use roar and is also just a very bulky mon that hits hard. Nothing on your team really wants to switch into it

Pawniard blanks a lot of that team outside of larvitar and croagunk due to its defensive typing

larvitar is weak to pawniard's iron head and croagunk doesn't have vacuum wave.

Stunky is strong against you for similar reasons in addition to sucker punch + aftermath

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Main suggestion to make the Hyper Offense better

shellder is the best sweeper in the tier due to its base 100 defense + skill link shenanigans. if you get it set up, it can easily just kill somebody no questions asked.

diglett-alola is a good hazard setter that has access to memento, is decently fast and slows opponents down with contact moves. Throw on a focus sash and you'd be set

magby with an oran berry is a better sweeper under screens or after a memento, although you need to be careful around scarf gastly

stiff jungle
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Got to read through it all, thank you for the feedback!! I'm very new to LC but it's just so interesting to me

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young grail
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Better for sure. Some optimization can made with the croagunk spread but I think it’s much better already

floral pollen
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this gets 6-0'd by opposing shellder

stiff jungle
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Not giving tips for how to deal with opposing Shellder sucks tho

sonic sentinel
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@stiff jungle

stiff jungle
sonic sentinel
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whoops sry

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butt tag

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but looking at this rn

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if ur going for screens ho you want more threats

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np vulla and magby come to mind

sullen osprey
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you should put on np vullaby over the current set

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and probably drop croagunk for magby yeah

molten jewel
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switch the shellder set

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try protect or some sub stuff

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everything else has been mentioned

molten jewel
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larv could be replaced with pawniard gastly etc

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try them out

fossil echo
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I do believe that just running a memento Pokemon: diglitt/stunky is viable but overall ur going to have a lot of flaws in ur team by the nature of ur playstyle - the metagame has F/O Mienfoo a common and dark-types in Stunky/Pawn kinda just smiles as u want to use parting shot too

molten jewel
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so....

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beating shellder is a matter of

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having screens up

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and u have your own shellder which survives a +2 rock blast

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as well as several pokemon that deny setup

fossil echo
molten jewel
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oh i went like

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29-2 on my suspect abusing minc

fossil echo
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Nice record

molten jewel
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tect is not the set tho

fossil echo
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I kept going against like kipfluif and regg during gastly meta - ig croak gets slightly better tho nowadays

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With gadfly gone

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Gastly*

molten jewel
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because generally imp is going to be good enough to screen

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and u need all the sweepers on the team

fossil echo
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U don’t like dug-a ? I rarely really see him on screens so they’d be on different play styles ya

molten jewel
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u need the defense abuser magby, the gamewinner shellder, the flinch=win vullaby that also checks some crucial stuff, the cleaner minc, the prio x defog abusing pawn

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just my thoughts

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are that imp is enough

fossil echo
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Magby is such noob bait lol I wanted to bring him in lc open 😭

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+6 flare / Tera ghost is rly epic

molten jewel
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my opinion on diglett is that its bad because you need the slot for something else, interferes with minc, and you are forced to memento early, which for good teams is easy to get around

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mainly the minc

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id rather both sides not get rocks up

fossil echo
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True

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I hope to see some impi cheese in lc open tho ladder vs tours are so drastically different 😭

molten jewel
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um

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i honestly have trouble focusing during indivs

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and i loaded screens during every round

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until i got lucked in the 3rd

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xDDD

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minc got crit so i couldnt tidy up hazards losing the game

waxen locust
devout nymph
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floral pollen
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you are completely 6-0'd by scarf mienfoo

sullen osprey
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sullen osprey
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i would probably reccomend shellder over corphish and make vull ada over jolly to get the ko on foo and would make the foongus tera steel for shellder

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but this looks chill already

sterile jasper
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can i post my dpp lc team here? if not where?

jaunty rune
sterile jasper
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spheal tspikes

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dpp lc

true path
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true path
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Tried making a team with a suicide spike lead

sullen osprey
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u only have 5 mons on the paste

true path
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I didn't know what to put as the 6th

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Sorry :(

sullen osprey
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o

sweet ingot
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dcae strats

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put voltorb

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hisui

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most teams in this meta come down to the following structure

  • foo
  • vull
  • orb
  • foo counter (snubbul or one of foongus/mareanie, MAYBE a larvesta but he needs toedscool support)
  • vull counter and rocker (use glimmet if you chose snubbul)
  • filler (stunky goth toed growl shell, can be whatever)
sullen osprey
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few worries i have with this

a) glimmet
b) shellder
c) scarflithe as only breaker is really tough IMO bc ur breaker being choice locked makes it really hard to play and position yourself well

-i would probably drop snubbull and put on mudbray. gives you a rocker, gives you a better swap into glimmet, hard hitting mon too. can do tera water roar
-after that you're a little flexible on what you can do for the last team slot. i think hisuian voltorb is good here bc it gives you another way to break through vullaby
-i would make this vullaby physically offensive instead. np vull is nice but i find it pretty hard to pull off on non HO structures. i like roost knock bird tera blast ground and that gives you another good progress maker
-make your foongus tera steel and your foo tera water or steel for another good out into shellder

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i also like taunt more than fake out on fast mienfoo personally, but i think its really up to your preference

sweet ingot
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yea we basically agree

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tl;dr add a voltorb, replace snubbul with mudbray or foongus with glimmet

true path
true path
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How's this??

sullen osprey
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looks good

uneven zenith
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sweet ingot
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this teams issue is that it doesnt have a good foo switch in

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so if you wanna replace zorua i'd say snubbull is a decent idea

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since its more offensive than mareanie/foongus and you dont need the poison with glimmet

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@uneven zenith

uneven zenith
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O ty. I did notice in one game that I didn't have something for mienfoo. I'll try snubbull

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I played a while ago and had gastly in that place and had to replace it because it's banned now

ruby schooner
willow oxide
# ruby schooner sitting at 1350 with this sand (?) team. how can I improve it further? https://p...

I would recommend making the drilbur sand rush so you are actually out speeding things with your sand team, if you wanted to sand force stuff you could just use Dig-a. Cranidos seems like it does not fit with the team, growlithe-hisui to me is just the better scarf rock type. Finally, hippo should have a tera type that isn’t ground, and maybe the rock that makes sand last for 8 turns if you feel you aren’t getting enough turns to go win

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sweet ingot
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if it clicks volt switch ur only option is mudbray who dies to giga

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thats kinda a problem for many teams though

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vullaby could also be an issue

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mudbray isnt a super reliable switchin

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the core is good though

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if u run into issues try replacing tenta

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because rn a major issue your team runs into is the sequence of

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orb comes in

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clicks volt as you go to mienfoo or foongus

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and then vull comes in and claims one

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or gothita, if ur opp has one

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could try a wattrel over tenta

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since it comes in on volt and brave bird

true path
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How about toadstool? (Or however you spell paldean tentacool's name)

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It's immune to electric and neutral against grass

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And it can still serve as a spinner

true path
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limber widget
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Now one thing that could be improved is the EV spreads, some of them are suboptimal

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Try to drag and follow the notches in the teambuilder instead of going 252 EVs into one stat, then you can squeeze out more EVs to get an extra point in another stat

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For example : 252 Speed EVs is the same as 196 Speed EVs on Vullaby. So if you only put 196 EVs in Speed, and you cut the EVs in HP that don't actually make a difference, you can then put an extra 76 EVs in Defense, for example, to get an extra pt

true path
floral pollen
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Better but not quite, Mienfoo for instance needs 76 attack to get the jump to gain an additional point, 60 doesn't cut it

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floral pollen
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slow u-turn users are great on teams like this but the rest of the team struggles with trading pokemon to make it easier for hail to sweep

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something like foongus might help with putting something to sleep to give shrew more chances to win, or mareanie to cover a fire weakness over koffing which doesn't do either.

little cypress
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Should I slow down chinchou?

floral pollen
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it's worth considering but I'm not saying it's mandatory.

little cypress
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what are some good breakers I can try out?

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little cypress
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I did originally have torchic > bray, so that might be worth trying. Though losing rocks hurts a bit

true path
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true path
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This was my original team except I replaced growlithe with torchic

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Cuz imo it's a better breaker that doesn't rely on scarf

floral pollen
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running flamethrower is so much worse than fire blast

true path
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Dw I changed it back to fire blast a while ago

floral pollen
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the team is fine otherwise, there's changes I'd make personally but absolutely aren't mandatory

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like fire tera torb on a team with torchic can be something else

true path
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I'm thinking about changing it to tera ice

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For toed, vull, and opposing torb (assuming they don't have tera fire or used it up on another mon)

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floral pollen
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Rain needs slow foo, drop torb

little cypress
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thanks

tepid quarry
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i've been doing pretty decently in little cup i think? got matched up against the #300 in ladder and lost twice so that's skewed it a bit but can i get this rated?
https://pokepast.es/2b5d4d6e1cf50aa2

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floral pollen
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I don't see much value in snover on this team. Tell us how it helps you

limber widget
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The team also seems a little weak to Gothita, since there is no Psychic resist/immune to take advantage of the free switches it gives

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I would try to fit either a Dark or a Steel type on this team by switching around some things

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Without making the team over-reliant on Toedscool for Grounds

tepid quarry
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i also swapped mareanie out for speed boost life orb torchic

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snover provides a lot of great neutral damage in midgame once special counters might be taken out

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so something like vullaby, wattrel, mudbray, foongus, toedscool, shellder, grookey, trapinch etc will be pressured

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it cant be one shotted by physical attackers easily so at worst it's a trade and at best it can clean with giga drain

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tink/pawniard/growlithe are the only three commonly used ones it cant hit for at least neutral damage

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blizzard can't miss in snow and i think it resets weather too

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currently i'm 14-8 rn and have been experiencing a bit of an uptick in wins

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oh yeah snover also scouts potential choice users and cleans up low health mons with priority ice shard

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burn + poison + protect also helps stall a little

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im pretty sure it can unboosted ohko staples like vullaby toedscool shellder and bray if they dont tera

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and since its a special attacker it doesnt trigger toxic debris/weak armor and such

tepid quarry
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right now i got 1236 ELO which is better than any other tier i be in

tepid quarry
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yeah snover is kind of a legend for me rn

floral pollen
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The torchic change is really bad defensively, it gives you no switch ins to Mienfoo at all.

tepid quarry
tepid quarry
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that would solve the gothita/foo problem

floral pollen
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it's a start

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having a regen foo instead of inner focus is also a massive change

tepid quarry
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yeah but its funny to nail a fake outer

floral pollen
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alrighty, you keep having fun then

tepid quarry
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sorry

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guys, need your help to improve my team

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the idea is a tad silly but i want a team that can work with LC and later on in UU with their evolved form

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but i want to see if the LC form of the team works

sweet ingot
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i suspect this might be the answer you dont wanna hear

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but replacing nymble or growlithe with mienfoo would help a lot

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the structure of the team is fine, im just skeptical of a standard style team with no foo or even timburr

vocal badger
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is the move ok?

sweet ingot
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hm

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you could move rocks onto tink

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make mudbray scarf

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and then replace growlithe with mienfoo

vocal badger
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gotcha

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mudbray use rocks too?

sweet ingot
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not on scarf

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just run 4 attacks

vocal badger
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stone edge, earthquake, body slam, heavy slam works?

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actually, i'll just run CC

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decided to replace the ice beam from pex to toxic spikes

floral pollen
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looks fine

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personally don't love the scarf mudbray change but it's absolutely viable and could work

vocal badger
floral pollen
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just throwing rocks and an evio on it

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and giving twave back to tink

vocal badger
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how would that help the team?

floral pollen
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Gives you stronger switch ins and stronger checks to the top threats of the meta

dense apex
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@floral pollen Hello, how are you? I'm in a pl where I'm playing svlc, I wanted to know if you have any teams that are not very seen in the current meta to surprise the enemy.

fiery edge
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@limber widget

quick egret
limber widget
quick egret
limber widget
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Catches you off-guard? You tell me haha

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I think I'd say Scarf Mudbray

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Because people have an idea of what to expect

quick egret
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Hey, don't catch me off guard, don't catch my opponent

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I'll get straight to the point, you're good and I wanted to know if you could pass me all these teams for my leader to analyze (corsa__)

limber widget
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Oh no not the analysis D:

quick egret
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Because he hates everything that isn't meta, there's something in his head that I don't understand yet, but I'm finding out.

fiery edge
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Ace or Killua is all complicated, he wants his teams and doesn't know how to ask for them.

quick egret
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Can you send me? All teams

limber widget
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I've never heard of this corsa person

quick egret
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He is well, strange

quick egret
limber widget
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Sure

floral pollen
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The cold tag asking for teams is wild

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Glad Ace was here to save the day though

quick egret
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@floral pollen If you want to be the 2nd lifeguard, give me teams, you can be there too

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Not sure what the last mon should be

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thinking maybe trapinch for arena trap?

devout nymph
# dapper badger Not sure what the last mon should be

You could add gothita rather then trapinch, would help you eliminate foongus better, as foongus can kinda mess you up. It could also give you secondary speed control other than your grookey

If you wanna big changes, you could swap grookey for a shelder, and mareanie for foongus, and then add a glimmet, but that would veer pretty far away from the original build

sullen osprey
# dapper badger Not sure what the last mon should be

very late but

justifying any item as non evio in general is pretty tough because of how significantly different evio calcs are from non evio calcs. if you pass up on evio generally u get ohkoed by a lot of stuff. toxic orb timburr is also just generally not worth it bc its really easy to get weakened and ur not rly sweeping with it or fast enough to break with it either. bulk up drain knock mach would be good for what your trying to go for there

av is also the same as evio but worse since both are 1.5x but evio helps physdef too

if you wanna keep the shinx torchic last would make sense since u can use shinx to pivot into it. also helps with the poor foongus matchup you have.

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This looks strong

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Glim looks annoying though so id consider making torchic magby since its less tera reliant and still does the same stuff here. Id drop heat wave on vull for tera blast ground too with that to hit glim. That means vull is tera reliant too but should make u good into glim and what would be checks to vull like tink too

left pulsar
sullen osprey
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That would be fine

left pulsar
sullen osprey
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Ya

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Team looks solid overall and is definitely playable, here’s some of the concerns I have for it though:

  • It’s slow. Chou and toed as your fastest mons could be concerning against scarfs and every mon over 18 speed
  • Your Foongus matchup looks annoying. I’m a big fan of TTM, but only vull and Timburr somewhat will actually scare it meaning 3 mons just lose, and tink technically wins by getting rid of its evio but it’s also very likely to just get rocks up and go to sleep
  • Where’s your go win mon (can’t think of a better name). Again big TTM fan since it’s a great defensive structure for enabling frailer more offensive mons, but your team is lacking that. It looks too reactionary of a team where you’re more likely to be on the back foot
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As for actual mons to watch out for, the fire types and plot vullaby look the most concerning. Magby/torchic commonly enough have SE coverage for mare and chou so you’ll commonly be put in awkward tera 50s. Plot vull is one flinch away from beating your entire team since your tink is air balloon, meaning +2 heat wave just kills you

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or magby instead of toedscool with defog vullaby

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There is also the option of the mienfoo choice scarf instead of timburr with evio tink

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zero complaints from me ironically

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Super standard team, not much to comment on with this one. Foongus could be annoying since you don't have your own, the likely counterplay for you is probably Tink on poison move, rocks/knock on spore, and then deal with vullaby with your own so you can keep the tink asleep. The team has 3 ground weaks so you could consider running a max Def Bold Nature Toed with 14 speed

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they have magby for foong

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you dont want to switch into sludge and take 60, nothing wants to switch into a foong

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double removal is prob unnecesary and could make vulla like scarf or nasty plot though

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And fires are scary so toed should be tera water

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otherwise just tried and true stuff

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Where did the second removal come from, am i blind

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roost uturn vull

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ngl i read as defog

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still stand by could experiment with vull set though

willow oxide
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Yeah probably can, but it's just a team of all time that should work

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I dont like IDef the more Im looking at that but that's most likely just a preference thing

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Does anyone have a Team LC Gen 8

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Slowpoke sticks out like a sore thumb

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Would switch it to mareanie, give mudbray roar to work with chespin, and consider evio elekid

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slowpoke for magby

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Then you have absolutely nothing to take an HJK

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it should just be diglett though yeah

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Mudbray also works to gives you a better defensive switch-in into a vullaby or stunky if you do not think the offensive pressure that Dig-a has is doing enough

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I’m most proud of the fake out normal gem covet meowth

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It’s pretty solid against eviolite

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He hits pretty hard

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I like Crabrawler too

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I was messing with Tarountula but I failed to make him useful

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completely new to tier

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for completely new to tier this is really good

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you check all the needed meta threats

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was thinking tera psychic over ground on torchic

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thats good yeah u nail foo

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and still hit mare etc

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i would probably consider moving rocks on bray to tink over encore and running ada with like roar or something

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tink is a rly good rocker, and while bray is good at rocking if ur running this 6

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i think running ada and just 2hkoing everything would be better

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diff tera maybe?

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another nitpick of mine is i like tera grass on mareanie as an emergency check to stuff like alolan dig

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tera water is good

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and i think u should mess around with taunt on foo

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u dont have a spore immune so taunting foongus could be nice

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no tera drag?

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oh yeah that

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what do i drop for taunt?

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fake out is usually p expendable

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thats shocking to me actually

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being lc

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hjk knock off and u turn are all rly good and guarantee progress

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so do i go grass tera or taunt or both?

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i think both would be fine

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so np vullaby steamrolls this team

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maybe change flash cannon on tink to

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twave for that

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full baby team because im fucking evil

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magbys been taken to the back and SHOT and its completely fucking stumped me

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who can i use other than azurill

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ideally, pokemon who aren't babies

ebon hound
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but its a full baby team

floral pollen
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but if you're going to do that anyway

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you probably want mantyke

ebon hound
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oh fuck i forgot he was a baby

floral pollen
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budew is also one of the better ones

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but she's not in this game

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she

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great heavens

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actually mantyke might not be either

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wait no neither is mantyke

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you fool.

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ye thats why i never thought of him because i was just looking through the list

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theres tyrogue

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yeah you really are just missing all of the greatest hits

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wynaut, budew, mantyke have all been viable at one point or another

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i was gonna use wynaut but hes dead

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this is all because game freak lied in 2019 btw

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azurill might work actually

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Espurr doesn't outspeed foo

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Oh

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So that my team can someone do a feedback (thanks)

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No one really does team rating here so here’s the LC server

true path
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Snubbull desperately needs hazards removed bc of its lack of natural recovery

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And I would also replace slowpoke with mareanie bc it just outclasses it in terms of walling

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Better typing, better defensive stats, and can wall vullaby

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is eevium z legal

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isnt

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but its tournament with friends so

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yk

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i was thinking abt baton passing allat boosts to axew

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why

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then just killing them with scale shot

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idk seems like a good idea

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eevium z is one of the strongest mons to ever be in LC

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yeah im using it on eevee then passing the stats to axew

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passing the boosts to an objectively worse mon would be bad

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when you could just win with that mon

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i could but most likely there are gonna be some duskulls

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if you really wanted to pass boosts you could run something with stronger coverage

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duskull isn't really all that great, knock off is the strongest move in the metagame

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floral pollen
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just grab all the broken pokemon

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if you're running a format with no bans, take swirlix

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or run memento diglett and a shell smash user like clamperl

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clampearl we got banned

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only alola if so

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and swirlix also banned

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so should i change smth or ?

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and we also got levels 100 its dumb af ik

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there's nothing I can help you with then

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so its good or mid as hell?

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just need rating man

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its got probably the most broken pokemon to ever be legal in LC

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if you're allowed to use zeevee

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eevee but there is gonna be more eevee's

floral pollen
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then just run zeevee answers on the rest of your team

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yeah im also suprised but the friend organising it is absolute dumbass

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and it won't matter what you do

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level 100 is also a totally different metagame

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the problem is that other ppl are also gonna be using it

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so there's nothing I can rate.

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makes sense

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would it be good?

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nnnvm

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nvm

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also its hard to run scarfers in foongus structures rn, if you want to run dog i recommend running tink toed mare asw

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lc enjoyers

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Got a LC lv50 Bring 6 Pick 4 tournament coming up
I have Cutiefly, Riolu, Porygon, Gligar, Misdreavus, and Murkrow/Tangela/Sneasel
Cutiefly is Quiver Dance, Sticky Webs, Moonblast, Baton Pass
Misdreavus is Draining Kiss, Shadow Ball, Calm Mind, Perish Song/Taunt
Riolu is SD, Reversal, Copycat, Crunch/Zen/MeteorMash
Porygon is special wall with Twave, Triatk, Ice, Recover
Gligar is physical wall with Toxic, Knockoff, Quake Roost
Anything I should change? Who should take my 6th slot?

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https://pokepast.es/1ee34528e06fc612
so uh i wanted to ig try mainly Growlithe-Hisui cuz felt right so i tried to do with some popular mons bit overall team feels off like something is missing

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Doesn't have a rock setter, relies a ton on Mareanie

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Would suggest tinkatink over shrew. You lose spin but you have a more reliable vull and foo check and a SR user

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oke

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