#Ubers
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clod is not a reliable zac check at all
they wouldnt tera steel against clod
And tournament records as good as me
But still Oreo is more experienced here
Even if no Tera steel
Blade still does a lot
Unless you go max physdef
But at that point what’s the point of clodsire
to perfectly tank 3
clod is wall wiper
hooh lugia
all that
toxic
and its unaware is good anti sweep
nope
252 Atk Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 252 HP / 136 Def Unaware Clodsire: 226-267 (48.7 - 57.5%) -- 49.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
136
look at mine again
First
252 Atk Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 252 HP / 160+ Def Unaware Clodsire: 199-235 (42.8 - 50.6%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO
oh it is
Even with + defense you die
gimme a sec
Plus why are you using clod to check Zacian
There are better checks out there even among the shitmons
Use skeledirge atp even then that guy kinda niche at best
oh yeah
Or a more conventional check NDM but ehh… he isn’t so hot either on that front with the moveset nerfs of Gen 9
i ran the wrong set for this
lol
its 160 def
i clearly remembered
its 160 def careful
ice beam just gets the job done
Not rain that’s not real
Check the damage calcs
imrunning the wrong set on my pc then
yeah thats 252 spd clod
yeah i have the wrong set on my laptop
i do 160 def on my phone lol
forgot to change on pc
160 def tanks zac
25% chance to kill with bb
80 SpA Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 142-168 (30.6 - 36.2%) -- 51% chance to 3HKO
why are we running 80 spa kyogre
Plus, why are you using something with base 60 defense to check Zacian
thats a good point
but
thats the standard dex spread
oh
I personally like 168 or sth modest on cm but that’s for boost damage
lol alr
Wall breaker clodsire
can i play one of u guys
You win
toxic
I fell for the bait
unaware recover spam
Oreo I lost the game
pig
I fell for the ragebait again.
Broski
?
I fell for it once I won’t fall for it again
This was the same song and dance I’ve been baited into by someone else
This discord is not the place for asking games
Meanwhile I’m still arguing with a guy who thinks clodsire is a wallbreaker
I’ve already lost the game before it started
what is considered high ladder
1700+
You've come here for advice and Oreo has taken time out of their day to give it to you. You're free to disagree, but at a certain point just move on with your day
Anything can work on ladder
is there any tips for taunt arc fairy
Play a good team
The first time I ever played SV Ubers I used a team I built for a suspect in 5 minutes and got 1750. That didn't make it a good team
was it a good team tho
if you got to 1750 with a team like that it has potential
Probably not, but it did what it needed to do. This conversation has run it's course
u right
ill go back to my "clodsire wall breaker"
its quite a nice team tho ngl
won some impressive 1650s
oh yeah also random question
why do hrs in servers often type in proper grammar
is it an intimidation tactic
or is it just the way you speak
I genuinely do not have a response to that.
i see people doing it all the time
kinda funny beacuse if i see them talk in a different server they talk like this
but when they are HR they talk with grammar
If you'd like to get and listen to advice on a team in the future please feel free to come back, but we are done here for now.
no
is that not allowed at all
There are plenty on PS! try there
Clearly u just don't see the uniqueness of clodsire
Why use lando, ho oh, Groudon who can all check Zac + other physical attackers when u can
Specifically 2hko the only steel type physically offensive mon that's zacian with 60def clodsire [ndm makes clod setupfodder ]
U were not seeing uniqueness
That he was seeing
He has the vision
Let's not please
So it's only a problem when I decide to have some fun

Fun is a problem if it's the type of fun that makes you needlessly make worse teams if u add pokemon because they "fun" unfort
Clodsire is fine on some teams
But not on a team from a guy who calls it a wallbreaker
Nvm
The joke flew over my head
Can you guys rate my team for Gen 9 Ubers even if i intend to use it in showdown only?
Yes, that is what this channel is for.
Lando
Ig
Korais pretty much the only decent scarfer
Landos 2nd best imo might be a hot take tho
New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @steep tulip, @cinder fox, @crude turtle. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.
and how can i improve my team???
first off, you gotta be jolly on both of your scale shot mons, lol
whole point of running KyuB is outspeeding something like Zacian-C at +1
so you don't need to pop tera early
koraidon similarly you don't wanna lose to opposing Koraidons, ever
ditto on screens HO is also a lil' suspect, I get you wanna be safe vs something like Webs but it also invalidates your own matchup into balance as you give away too much momentum
you can load up your own tr mon to be able to beat dedicated trick room; probably NDM works best
as it stands, though, if your screens aren't up, any type of Tera Ghost physical sweeper runs through this entire team, ditto or not
I'd change Koraidon to Tera Ghost to be able to take on low kick korai and ekiller
scarf ogre also takes a bit of setup that your team doesn't have atm so I'd swap it out for (potentially) some type of CM arceus, maybe fairy
taunt cm seems fine here
or maybe roar over taunt
how do i counter setup without ditto tho?
i actually used that but swapped it cuz it kept loosing to ndm
sunsteel has fallen out of favor imho
so you can roar it out a bunch
you counter setup mons through your screens and good defensive teras and the sort
It just dawned on me you're on triple dragon no ground resist, too, which isn't optimal
New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @steep tulip, @cinder fox, @crude turtle. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.
What is iron treads doing here in a no miraidon meta?
Booster energy attack makes no sense at all too
Ndm doesn’t have a Tera type, and you really don’t got a lot of dark type attacks to threaten you here minus maybe kingambit attacks, but even then dual stab means ndm will be cooked by gambit.
Arceus dragon isn’t real…
Ray is borderline bad rn, how does it rank on the VR right now? Pretty low.
And SD isn’t gonna fly (forgive me) in this day and age.
Aaaaannnnndddddddd you basically instalose to SD Tera ghost or maybe even Tera steel koraidon
Is my team okay yall
(My first double battle team set up sobs)
I let my Zoroark-Hisui disguise as Ursaluna with Indeedee-F
you're probably better off in #1208795569649356820
but at glance nothing in your team is viable in AG, like literally nothing, this looks more like a vgc or doubles team
New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @steep tulip, @cinder fox, @crude turtle. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.
Does anyone have any scarf Tera water Kroger teams also where do they get the sample teams from in singles like for vgc it’s just from regional n that
New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @steep tulip, @cinder fox, @crude turtle. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.
Not much to say, but this team is unfortunately entirely unviable for Doubles Ubers, nor SV Ubers
how so? I was able to use this team in SV Double ubers though?
The problem is simply the fact that the pokemon here, with the exception of Amoonguss and Incineroar, are UR
Plus the movesets here aren't at all good
this kind of team is better suited to the https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059655497587888158 channel
Does anyone have any ideas for what the 6th team member should be, and any changes to current mons?
Exactly 2 of these 5 mons are viable
flame charge is for stuff like fluttermane
so could I get actual advice other than a vague note
such as: which ones?
Ribombee and Koraidon
ty
https://pokepast.es/f9981e36fbb370fd Thoughts about this team?
New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @steep tulip, @cinder fox, @crude turtle. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.
Flame charge is very much a viable and tournament used set
Sometimes both are used
Sometimes I see it used on sub dice sets, I think running both can be good on some teams (or frankly just MU fish go brr)
Is this a good ubers team? https://teams.pokemonshowdown.com/view/1786953-nvu64x16srqwaft0cwe8
i learned scarf h-samurott from a tourney i just took part in
The team has two viable directions that it can go towards
It can either build around Sticky Webs or around Scarf Ho-Oh
The Scarf Hamu, Roaring Moon, and Great Tusk are unfortunately not good in Ubers
https://pokepast.es/55045bacb2db87e2 does this suck?
New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @steep tulip, @cinder fox, @crude turtle. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.
Darn
Surprisingly not even that bad ngl.
U talking about me team?
Yeah.
Although I am no niche mon expert, this is much better than the stuff we usually receive here.
Mostly picked Fezandipiti because it has a place in ND Ubers
Arc fairy check eternatus check ye
Life orb might still pose a little issue but this is neat versus IDCM mons
low kick on koraidon?
somthing i havent seen
thats standard
anyone 😭
Short answer, it doesn’t suck.
🥳
does it have problems tho?
actually it's more like 250+ bc a lot of teams similler but with different 2 or 3 mons
Yo can someone rate my Doubles Ubers team which I made out of some of my fav mons:
Sinistcha @ Focus Sash
Ability: Hospitality
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Trick Room
- Matcha Gotcha
- Reflect
- Shadow Ball
Chesgoat (Chesnaught) (M) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Bulletproof
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Drain Punch
- Belly Drum
- Thunder Punch
- Iron Head
Palossand (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Compaction
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Earth Power
- Curse
- Shore Up
- Poltergeist
Chi-Yu @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Beads of Ruin
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 208 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Flamethrower
- Nasty Plot
- Psychic
Iron Balls (Iron Bundle) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Quark Drive
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Freeze-Dry
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Taunt
Corviknight (M) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Mirror Armor
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Brave Bird
- Defog
- U-turn
- Roost
It's ass
Why
Only 2 pokemon here are actually viable
Iron Bundle and Chi-Yu
and even then, they're very niche in the meta
So what would you suggest
It’s a semi trick room
I trick room with sinistcha and chesnaught outspeeds which gives it time to set up belly drum
And then sweeps half of the team
Worked so often alr
But it doesn’t work always
Where to find them
And I kinda still want a team out of my fav mons
Welcome to Doubles Ubers! Like all official Smogon tiers, Doubles Ubers is restricted to Pokemon that are currently obtainable in Scarlet and Violet.
Doubles Ubers is a 6v6 doubles format with no Pokemon banned. Otherwise, it mirrors most clauses from Doubles OU, such as Species Clause and...
You can make different teams with your favorite Pokemon
In fact, building around them individually lets them shine more
And for future reference, go to https://discord.com/channels/192713314399289344/1059655497587888158 for Doubles Ubers rates
New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @steep tulip, @cinder fox, @crude turtle. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.
😔
New [Gen 9] Ubers RMT @lime prairie, @steep tulip, @crude turtle. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.
Now, not a lotta koraidon would stay in on Lando with a lowered attack, so I’d still rather go Tera ground instead and throw on rocks and give arc fairy something else…
can someone here help me make my gen 1 team?
my current team
Mega Blastoise
Aerodactyl
Zapdos
Snorlax
Machamp
Clefable
my team can have one legendary
any different type of the same pokemon (eg: Iron thorns(T-tar paradox form), Hisuian-Typhosion)
how can i change my team to be good enough for comp or is this good?
To make this a good team, don't use any of these pokemon, and use a sample team
I unfortunately think that this team is just not powerful enough for the Ubers tier, and the restrictions you have placed upon yourself dont really match any format that we have experience with
We can point you towards viable Ubers teams, but if those don't really help you then theres not much we can do
!arbitraryformats