#1v1 Rates

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pearl bane
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I killed 4 people with iron valiant

slow mica
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but u have an air balloon gholdengo

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ye iron val

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is very solid

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3rd best mon rn

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imo

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top 3 are gholdengo, gren and val

pearl bane
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Greninja fell off

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Was my fav mon but meowscarada took its place

slow mica
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meow also very cool in 1v1

pearl bane
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What's your elo?

slow mica
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i kinda fell off was using gimmicky teams

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i was uh

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1630 yesterday tho

pearl bane
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Holy

slow mica
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im like 1580 now

pearl bane
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I'm 1230

slow mica
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u can lose a lot of elo with a mistake

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ye dw

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it happens

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i remember when i was stuck in low elo very well

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u learn with experience

pearl bane
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Battling clawitzer

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With gholdengo rn

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I can't pick the right monss

slow mica
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dw dont get worked up abt it

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think abt preview more

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even though clawitzer is a bad mon thats never seen

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u should click iron val there

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bc it can beat gholdengo + iron moth

pearl bane
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I'll click iron Val if I know the opponents mon isn't faster

slow mica
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iron val is always faster

pearl bane
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Damn

slow mica
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the only notable mons that outspeed are great tusk, iron treads, flutter mane and iron bundle

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aka other paradox mons

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that can run speed booster energy

pearl bane
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Damn ceruledge clapped my val

slow mica
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that can happen bc moonblast wont hit as hard

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Greninja @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protean
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Hydro Cannon
  • Dark Pulse
  • Grass Knot
  • Ice Beam

Greninja @ Petaya Berry
Ability: Torrent
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Hydro Cannon
  • Substitute
  • Dark Pulse
  • Haze

gren seems like it can beat a lot of mons on low ladder

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try these sets and build around it mayb

pearl bane
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Avalugg hatterenne sableye

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What should I pick

slow mica
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click gholdengo

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it beats them all

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sableye encore and disable doesnt work bc of good as gold btw

pearl bane
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He chose avalugg

slow mica
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lugg can win with mirror coat

pearl bane
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Sturdy mirror coat

slow mica
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but its ra

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oh

pearl bane
slow mica
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physical gren is gimmicky

pearl bane
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I got used to it

slow mica
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u mainly rely on beating like flutter mane

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its baity

pearl bane
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I'll try your build

slow mica
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but def good

pearl bane
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Which one?

slow mica
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either

pearl bane
slow mica
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ye

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i havent built much teams since gren was introduced

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and none around it bc ive been building for tournaments

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so u can try to build urself

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when u do u can even post the team here

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and the raters can get to it

pearl bane
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It's alright

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I found the same guy

slow mica
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ye niceee

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u did the val thing right

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wp

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act o wait

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that works but

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he is prob specs

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so you should disable t1

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and then he will be forced to struggle

pearl bane
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Disable first?

slow mica
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i just realised u won bc he missed both pumps lmao

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ye

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if they hit you with a huge attack first

pearl bane
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How to know

slow mica
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it depends what they click after u prot t1

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well

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if ur going to get one shot

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u click disable

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252+ SpA Choice Specs Clawitzer Hydro Pump vs. 176 HP / 0 SpD Iron Valiant: 423-498 (127 - 149.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

pearl bane
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Oh

slow mica
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u can load up the calc to help too

pearl bane
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Idk if the mon has specs

slow mica
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u can click disable

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and then encore

pearl bane
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Works for every mon?

slow mica
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clawitzer will struggle

pearl bane
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I meant

slow mica
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then u can moonblast twice and kill

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it depends

pearl bane
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Just disable and encore

slow mica
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on some mons u encore into disable

pearl bane
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Not the opposite

slow mica
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in some u disable into encore

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it depends

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the general tip is if u dont live the first hit they throw out

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you disable

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if you live it

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you encore

pearl bane
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I almost messed up

slow mica
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no clue wat they were trying to do

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tinkaton beats u tho usually

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but ye wp encoring the swords dance

pearl bane
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Holy

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Flutter mane clapped

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Outsped

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And slapped my val

slow mica
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ye

pearl bane
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Who do I send if the opponent has flutter

slow mica
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moth

pearl bane
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Alright

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Damn I'm back at 1100 elo

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I fr can't pick which mon to pick

slow mica
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low ladder can be random sometimes

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1v1 skill comes from picking and building

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so you just learn both of those

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so dw if u dont know which one to pick yet

pearl bane
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Someone has gholdengo Val and garchomp

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Who do I pick

slow mica
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what do u think you should pick?

pearl bane
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Moth

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I killed him

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Overheat

slow mica
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niceee

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moth is a good choice there ye

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u beat iron valiant + gholdengo

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a simple 2-0 choice that works well

pearl bane
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Chose Val for sableye

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Sableye reversed me

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Encore disable

slow mica
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ye sableye outspeeds with encore disable

pearl bane
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Okay I won

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I broke out almost died of Rocky helmet

slow mica
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im p sure u just win

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by clicking moonblast turn 1

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protect sab does exist but

pearl bane
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He protect

slow mica
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i think u can play around it

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ye

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im not sure abt that matchup

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havent seen much sableyes

pearl bane
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I've seen many

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I'm trying to get to 1300 elo

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I'm at 1230

slow mica
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it encourages ppl to use it bc it was banned in gen 8 1v1

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ye thats a good start

pearl bane
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I accidentally battled two people

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I died at the same dude I killed with iron moth and he sent out garchomp and killed me and I won at the same time

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Damn I lost all my elo

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Back to 1093

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I'm gonna continue tommorow

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Thanks again bye

warm charm
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This is common practice yea

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i only make a hitlist after i have 2 mons tho

eternal otter
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ive seen people do 1 or 2, i only do it after 2

slow mica
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i do it with all mons to build

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when im trying to make like an optimal team

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1st can take a bit too much time tho tbf

glacial flower
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I do general types / strategies I am weak to for mon 2, mon 3 is more specific

tropic zodiac
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I think I'm one of the few people who make hitlists after one mon

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ngl I have never seen anyone else make one after one

eternal otter
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pqs

signal pendant
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if ur using good mons, only need to do hitlist after 2 cuz its usually solvable

weary granite
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empty magnet
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pretty sure you lose into both iron valiant and sableye

weary granite
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ah

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i need to add encore shenangians counterplay?

empty magnet
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Waiting for a rater is best, but all choice-locked looks sketchy on that front to me

tropic zodiac
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not 100% sure

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You’re booster energy speed tho

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I can look a bit closer at this in 20 minutes tho

empty magnet
tropic zodiac
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oh.

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yeah I’m stupid you’re losing to both

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encore + disable do go brr

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Well

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Rather just disable here

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You’re also likely losing to disable pult and stuff

weary granite
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maybe roseli berry on tusk?

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i wonder if you would still die to gleam

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and whether you would revenge kill

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nvm make it rain kills if their specs

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av specially defenisve could be the play maybe

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but then you lose out on speed

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which actually probably doesnt matter

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since i originally put tusk here to counter opposing mag so all i need it to do is live gholdengo

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my brain is a bit 500 ping lmao

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and then i can probably take care of encore disable valiant

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so long as they are special variation with moonblast

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with tusk

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IDK

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Im rambling random thoughts

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me need rater

signal pendant
weary granite
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BET

eternal otter
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There’s a flutter that beats ape?

pearl bane
ruby sentinel
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doesnt cm flutter win?

signal pendant
pearl bane
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@slow mica is making a hitlist hard?

slow mica
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U just need to know matchups

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Analyses can also be a way to help new players

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Know good teammates for mons, what they beat and do

eternal otter
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It takes a bit to get used to but my main advice for making a hitlist is never blindly assume matchups based off typing and stuff. For every mu I’m not 100% sure and have tested before I make sure to calc and test to be sure ik what actually wins

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Like in gen 8 people kinda assumed avalugg or magnezone would beat gardevoir but because of trace and sturdy gardevoir actually wins

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Or a gen 9 example might be that band Meowscarada beats ghold when in reality it at best rolls physdef

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And can get focus blasted by scarf

tropic zodiac
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event raikou vs keldeo in bw as well

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keldeo just ohkos

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(Albeit it doesn’t if it’s not event raikou)

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but a ton of people didn’t know that matchup prior to 6 months ago and just assumed that raikou won, but actually keldeo just ohkoed lol

signal pendant
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imo when u make a hitlist, especially this gen with so few mons, you can often identify 3 or 4 mons therein that arent beatable by one pokemon. so u would have to choose a different second mon

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sometimes this is how i come up with good cores for more teams

weary granite
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banded knock kills?

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cuz dengo can also run air balloon

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oh it does kill

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i think

signal pendant
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ye if they are balloon, i think band knock wins. not gonna ohko, but it should 2 shot

weary granite
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they can have dazzling gleam or or psychic to revenge kill tho

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im scared they are gonna run air balloon 4 attacks

signal pendant
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psychic does the same as make it rain, which you should bulk anyway for scarf

weary granite
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still a roll

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meh

signal pendant
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Ability: Protosynthesis  
Tera Type: Ground  
EVs: 224 HP / 48 Atk / 4 SpD / 232 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Headlong Rush  
- Knock Off```speed for timid ghold, attack kos max defense ghold, bulks modest ghold psychic while maximizing hp for rolls vs slaking and meowscarada
or if you like to have more power
EVs: 184 Atk / 92 SpD / 232 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
still beats ghold, but dumps attack instead of bulk
weary granite
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the crazy chinese tusk

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agency approved

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i got the drop on this metagame now

weary granite
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@signal pendant

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weary granite
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sheist now right?

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btw i think flash cannon over heavy slam as a steel stab because of garg

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pretend slam is body press

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also meant to have relaxed nature

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am no post new paste cuz i dont wanna spam ping

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wait garg has no usage

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ok other reason then

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is that things are heavy as shit

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trust me

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b- garg will never appear

empty magnet
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I think you lose to non-cb donphan

weary granite
empty magnet
# weary granite how

has sturdy, so it lives hit from flutter and kills back, clicks counter on tusk and ice shard -> eq on zone

weary granite
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shit

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what do i do

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ok

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thank you for this information

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honestly its like i should make a fresh team

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like this is a solid mane team

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scratch thta i just need to beat everything

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hold up

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i can build that i think

weary granite
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BRUH

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I HAD THE SAME COMP AS ONE OF THE SAMPLES

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TREESONG

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I COULD HAVE STOLEN THIS SHIT OFFBAT

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WTH

eternal otter
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Ngl I thought you had tried to edit it since a lot of people do that with their first teams

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Loool

next torrent
pearl bane
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Is it normal to have 1500 elo and go down to 1000 again? Happend to me fast

slow mica
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They are all just submissions, from first glance the Double Steel + EncoreDisable Valiant one looks good.

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i know all of these ones r pre chi-yu ban and pre greninja

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doesnt mean they cant be good tho

eternal otter
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Top one loses to specs gren

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Most of them lose to some kind of annihilape

slow mica
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all made very early

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so ye

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thats to be expected id say

half summit
tropic zodiac
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Part of how 1v1 works…

half summit
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Yup

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Everything countered my team

tropic zodiac
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cteaming is quite the necessary skill on ladder…

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(I am very bad at it)

eternal otter
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It’s fun

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Don’t sacrifice your team structure to do it on low ladder though it’s not worth the effort

pearl bane
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Now I've been stuck on 1050-1100 elo

half summit
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half summit
pearl bane
half summit
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Yeah the sets their are so weird

half summit
pearl bane
slow mica
pearl bane
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And yes

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A Grafaiai litteraly stomped me

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That wasnt even dig

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Set

slow mica
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Meow is very good

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Just run Band or Leech

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Or specs if you want to be goofy

half summit
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Yeah meow has been very bad

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What should I change?

slow mica
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i'd say gholdengo + meow is a nice core you've got going on, gholdengo handles annihilape, flutter mane and iron valiant for you

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you noticeably lose to iron bundle though

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so you can craft a third around that

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slow mica
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i recommend these sets

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Ah fuck

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i did it again

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you can choose adamant or jolly on meowscarada by your choice

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adamant was the previous one most people used but with greninja in the game i'd recommend jolly more

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but you can use either, as of now you are losing to greninja but you can make a third around that like i said

half summit
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Nice

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Thx

young merlin
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@slow mica can you pm charm on ps to play me in monopoke

slow mica
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idc abt monopoke

young merlin
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no

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what

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i play charm

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can you let charm know

slow mica
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OH

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they said

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tonight

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@young merlin

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they said u had a time

young merlin
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okepic

next torrent
next torrent
young merlin
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this is for 1v1 the format

next torrent
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Gotcha thx so much

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I found the BSS chat

green oyster
pearl bane
young merlin
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Ability: Unburden 
EVs: 32 HP / 208 Atk / 228 Def / 40 Spe  
Adamant Nature  
- Fake Out  
- Earthquake  
- Bulk Up  
- High Jump Kick / Close Combat```
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yeah

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fakeout> bu> eq

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hitmonlee sucks

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idk you have to setguess a lot

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dude i spent half an hour building hitmonlee

green oyster
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i see

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ty

green oyster
green oyster
pearl bane
young merlin
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check setcomp

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too

pearl bane
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Keep chilling water tho for sturdy mons

eternal otter
sick cove
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warm charm
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Am i still even allowed here

young merlin
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did you get banned

warm charm
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icbb

eternal otter
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You’re fine

warm charm
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🔥

warm charm
eternal otter
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The valiant matchup looks annoying but I think dirge can do it?

young merlin
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n valiant wins

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you need spdef invest

signal pendant
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u beat encore disable with encore t1, but u get 2 shot by specs shadow ball. would need spa + blast burn to remove setguess

bronze dagger
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slow mica
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Farigiraf and Tinkaton are rarely seen Pokemon and Sableye needs good compatible teammates to do much, all three of these Pokemon need support to work and using all three of them together doesn't produce good results. You lose to Greninja, Dondozo, Dragapult and Iron Bundle for example. The team overall isn't bad, but it could use some work. If you don't want to change anything, I'd definitely recommend a change in sets.

Leftovers is usually a useless item in 1v1 due to matches being short and items like Sitrus Berry usually being preferred, Tinkaton should run Air Balloon and Encore in my opinion to bait in Donphan. As well as this, Encore is generally an incredibly move that you should use.

Tinkaton @ Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 Atk / 12 SpD / 244 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Protect
  • Encore
  • Play Rough
  • Gigaton Hammer

This is a set I used a while ago

Tinkaton (F) @ Air Balloon
Ability: Pickpocket
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 8 HP / 244 Atk / 96 Def / 4 SpD / 156 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Encore
  • Gigaton Hammer
  • Play Rough

You can also use this more optimised set that I found which has more reliable matchups against lugg, donphan, garchomp, breloom and no band fire punch slaking.

That Sableye moveset is also all over the place and the moves have no correlation, check the Set Compendium for a better set. For now I'll refer you to these which are the most similar

Def Roseli (Sableye) @ Roseli Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Def / 104 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe

  • Metal Burst
  • Encore
  • Disable
  • Recover

SpD Roseli (Sableye) @ Roseli Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 48 Def / 208 SpD
Sasy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe

  • Metal Burst
  • Disable / Taunt
  • Recover
  • Skill Swap
balmy pilot
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goddamn swordis on top of it

tropic zodiac
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ye..

bronze dagger
signal pendant
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u steal the item after air balloon pops. helps vs some banded mons

bronze dagger
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Ok

green oyster
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eternal otter
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This looks like it hard loses to annihilape and a bunch of other stuff

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If you want to use bundle I think pairing it with fire types usually does decent

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Like tflame or dirge

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Personally I also think using bundles faster than gren or Meowscarada is good

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I’m not sure if that one is or not I’m on mobile

signal pendant
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Ability: Quark Drive  
Tera Type: Ice  
EVs: 224 HP / 116 Def / 168 Spe  
Timid Nature  
- Hydro Pump  
- Ice Beam  
- Freeze-Dry  
- Chilling Water```set that beats donphan + gren + meow
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we take the 25% roll on band head smash

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speed for meta threat kilowattrel

green oyster
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ic

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does bundle work on like

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fwg structures

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like bundle dirge meow

signal pendant
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u could probably make a fwg team with it, but imo u should just use a good third, and not worry about the type asthetics

tropic zodiac
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yup!!

green oyster
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interesting

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ive just been slapping 3 mons and calling it a team

tropic zodiac
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a lot of structures work, but more than structures, I think that it’s nicer to not focus on the structures and to focus on just what fits well together instead

green oyster
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i feel like my builds need some structure

tropic zodiac
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structure is nice, but it is not a necessity

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especially in this economy metagame

green oyster
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``Skeledirge @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Blaze
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 SpA
Bold Nature

  • Will-O-Wisp
  • Torch Song
  • Encore
  • Blast Burn`` does this beat all ape
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or some

signal pendant
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most

green oyster
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is it bad to run it as my ape check

signal pendant
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as the only one i wouldnt, but it probably wins like 80% of the time

green oyster
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``Iron Bundle @ Choice Specs
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 224 HP / 116 Def / 168 Spe
Timid Nature

  • Hydro Pump
  • Ice Beam
  • Freeze-Dry
  • Chilling Water

Skeledirge @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Blaze
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 SpA
Bold Nature

  • Will-O-Wisp
  • Torch Song
  • Encore
  • Blast Burn `` im thinking like sylv or something for last
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i havent built in a long time i dont remember stuff about this tier

signal pendant
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sylv is probably good

green oyster
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o wait

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what if i ran the

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fake tears d kiss voice beam set

signal pendant
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just make sure it beats tusk and espathra

pearl bane
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pearl bane
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Balloon moth for Rock Tomb earthquake donphan, also beats magnezone

warm charm
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first thing is ur missing 4 evs on tusk

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just dump into speed or whatev

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2nd thing ur opposing bundle mu looks very sus

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and you are specs taunt

warm charm
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and you lose to band head smash

pearl bane
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I changed it

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I changed my entire team as I fell down

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I'm using a team with donphan Magnezone and tusk

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Im tired of sturdy mons and people using sturdy mons to climb

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I might aswell join them

warm charm
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link the team your want rated please

slow mica
eternal otter
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this looks pretty weak to espathra too

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idk how much you want tusk here

slow mica
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Replace it with something that beats AV Azu too

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Lmao unironically

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Iron Leaves looks good here

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Maybe dont quote me on that

eternal otter
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lmao

pearl bane
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By.. Using espathra

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Substitute calm mind to beat others

slow mica
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u still lose to av azu 😭

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i think

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tbh i havent calced

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but headcalc tells me u lose

young merlin
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tusk should win

pearl bane
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33% ohko if I don't bulk up

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I just did it but I didn't save the replay

slow mica
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O right that’s fine then

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U just have to predict their azu set

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Bc if they’re stall u click moth

pearl bane
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Moth?

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I changed him for espathra

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I click bundle for azu

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Hoping it's not av

slow mica
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o ye there is a bundle that beats av azu

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personally i dont like it

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but i can recommend it

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the thief set

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i think

pearl bane
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👍

green oyster
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warm charm
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u can't without changing mons/big opportunity cost

green oyster
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oof

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is sableye+kinggambit a real core?

slow mica
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No and that's kind of the problem here

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This team doesn't have any real core that I can see from first glance, what were you trying to go with?

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All of these three mons need the appropriate teammates to support them, Baxcalibur and Kingambit naturally due to them being niche picks and Sableye needs teammates to abuse its weaknesses. You can't really throw three random mons together and expect to work something out.

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If you want to improve this team I'd recommend building around one of the mons which you have here, providing two teammates which best cover their weaknesses

green oyster
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well

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i tried sableye

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ig kingambit just isnt a good stell here

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i dont rlly rememeber why i put bax last

slow mica
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Ye u can build around Sableye

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Check the VR and see what you lose to

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Off the top of my head something like

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Sylveon sounds good

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Mental Herb to beat Iron Val

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Helps with beating dark-types

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Wait act do u even need mental herb

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bc u can just hyper voice --> hyper beam

green oyster
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ye

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hvoice->hbeam wins 90% of the time

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cant remember off the top of my head if hvoice kills

slow mica
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it does

green oyster
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cool

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so sab/syl and whos the 3rd

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something that beats fairies?

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would like

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zone work?

slow mica
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that could probably work

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sab supports both their weaknesses to iron moth

eternal otter
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Double dark with a dragon as your third is extremely exploitable and prone to just dropping to fairies

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Pretty much what sword said you could probably try like corv as a second or something maybe?

green oyster
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alright, ll try magnet rise zone for now

slow mica
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Personally I dislike magnet rise zone

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It is for Donphan, right?

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Even though it can just Rock Tomb into Encore

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Instead of “beating Donphan” you win against 1 set out of 3, band.

green oyster
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idk its my comfort zone set

slow mica
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While u lose to endeavour ice shard and lum

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WP or Specs is more consistent

green oyster
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ooh yea

slow mica
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And can claim KOs

green oyster
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ill run specs ig

slow mica
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Ye

green oyster
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cool ty

pearl bane
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young merlin
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the chomp does not beat sylv

pearl bane
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Yeah figured

slow mica
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I have a feeling iron tail might but then again u have to gamble with babiri berry

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If u want to have a dragon that beats Sylv (unless incredibly rare scarf) hacorus with poison jab kills

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IIRC

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it does not

young merlin
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you need le cb iron tail

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+1 252+ Atk Haxorus Iron Tail vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 370-436 (93.9 - 110.6%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

tropic zodiac
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75% accuracy with a 62.5% chance to OHKO

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that's like a 46 percent chance to win that mu

eternal otter
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i wouldnt run naive chomp without eq either

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i dont think theres really a way to fix this without sacrificing your ape mu either

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would probs have to swap a mon out

green oyster
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eternal otter
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@uncut urchin too

uncut urchin
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I have been summoned

eternal otter
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You aren’t on the list yet but figured I’d ping

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Would corrosive lazzle be better here

uncut urchin
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Ty

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Most likely yeah

eternal otter
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Oh hmm corv mu

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Ig you protect then disable taunt

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Toxic

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Encore their next move

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Should be fine but sub owns hmmm

uncut urchin
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Even though gren will hopefully be leaving soon

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This team is not great at dealing with it

eternal otter
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Phan too

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You probs want a specific ground beater

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Sylv is probs fine but idk if phan is helping here much

green oyster
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iirc the sylv-phan mu is hvoice->hvoice/beam and you win if they arnt band hslam

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cant remmeber tho

uncut urchin
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Does gunk not ohko sylv?

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Since like band heavy Slam is more common on other stuff like great tusk

young merlin
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its the same bp right

eternal otter
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Correct

green oyster
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has poision odds

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o but shoudlnt matter

uncut urchin
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sylv usually drops i think

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252+ Atk Choice Band Donphan Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 384-452 (97.4 - 114.7%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

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yeah roll is heavily in favor of donphan

eternal otter
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phan also outspeeds

uncut urchin
slow mica
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😎

young merlin
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frog

slow mica
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zamn two frogs gone

green oyster
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:<

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miss frog

tropic zodiac
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only one frog remains

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(bellibolt, best frog)