#1v1 Rates
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but u have an air balloon gholdengo
ye iron val
is very solid
3rd best mon rn
imo
top 3 are gholdengo, gren and val
meow also very cool in 1v1
What's your elo?
Holy
im like 1580 now
I'm 1230
u can lose a lot of elo with a mistake
ye dw
it happens
i remember when i was stuck in low elo very well
u learn with experience
dw dont get worked up abt it
think abt preview more
even though clawitzer is a bad mon thats never seen
u should click iron val there
bc it can beat gholdengo + iron moth
I'll click iron Val if I know the opponents mon isn't faster
iron val is always faster
Damn
the only notable mons that outspeed are great tusk, iron treads, flutter mane and iron bundle
aka other paradox mons
that can run speed booster energy
Damn ceruledge clapped my val
that can happen bc moonblast wont hit as hard
Greninja @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protean
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Cannon
- Dark Pulse
- Grass Knot
- Ice Beam
Greninja @ Petaya Berry
Ability: Torrent
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Cannon
- Substitute
- Dark Pulse
- Haze
gren seems like it can beat a lot of mons on low ladder
try these sets and build around it mayb
click gholdengo
it beats them all
sableye encore and disable doesnt work bc of good as gold btw
He chose avalugg
lugg can win with mirror coat
Sturdy mirror coat
I have a physical gren build
physical gren is gimmicky
I got used to it
I'll try your build
but def good
Which one?
either
First one seems the usual gren build
ye
i havent built much teams since gren was introduced
and none around it bc ive been building for tournaments
so u can try to build urself
when u do u can even post the team here
and the raters can get to it
ye niceee
u did the val thing right
wp
act o wait
that works but
he is prob specs
so you should disable t1
and then he will be forced to struggle
Disable first?
i just realised u won bc he missed both pumps lmao
ye
if they hit you with a huge attack first
How to know
it depends what they click after u prot t1
well
if ur going to get one shot
u click disable
252+ SpA Choice Specs Clawitzer Hydro Pump vs. 176 HP / 0 SpD Iron Valiant: 423-498 (127 - 149.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Oh
u can load up the calc to help too
Idk if the mon has specs
Works for every mon?
clawitzer will struggle
I meant
Just disable and encore
on some mons u encore into disable
Not the opposite
in some u disable into encore
it depends
the general tip is if u dont live the first hit they throw out
you disable
if you live it
you encore
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Kyocks and dogshit(mebtw) ([Gen 9] 1v1)
I almost messed up
no clue wat they were trying to do
tinkaton beats u tho usually
but ye wp encoring the swords dance
ye
Who do I send if the opponent has flutter
moth
low ladder can be random sometimes
1v1 skill comes from picking and building
so you just learn both of those
so dw if u dont know which one to pick yet
what do u think you should pick?
niceee
moth is a good choice there ye
u beat iron valiant + gholdengo
a simple 2-0 choice that works well
ye sableye outspeeds with encore disable
He protect
i think u can play around it
ye
im not sure abt that matchup
havent seen much sableyes
I accidentally battled two people
I died at the same dude I killed with iron moth and he sent out garchomp and killed me and I won at the same time
Damn I lost all my elo
Back to 1093
I'm gonna continue tommorow
Thanks again bye
ive seen people do 1 or 2, i only do it after 2
i do it with all mons to build
when im trying to make like an optimal team
1st can take a bit too much time tho tbf
I do general types / strategies I am weak to for mon 2, mon 3 is more specific
I think I'm one of the few people who make hitlists after one mon
ngl I have never seen anyone else make one after one
pqs
if ur using good mons, only need to do hitlist after 2 cuz its usually solvable
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pretty sure you lose into both iron valiant and sableye
Waiting for a rater is best, but all choice-locked looks sketchy on that front to me
Flutter mane should win against both I think?
not 100% sure
You’re booster energy speed tho
I can look a bit closer at this in 20 minutes tho
it's specs
oh.
yeah I’m stupid you’re losing to both
encore + disable do go brr
Well
Rather just disable here
You’re also likely losing to disable pult and stuff
maybe roseli berry on tusk?
i wonder if you would still die to gleam
and whether you would revenge kill
nvm make it rain kills if their specs
av specially defenisve could be the play maybe
but then you lose out on speed
which actually probably doesnt matter
since i originally put tusk here to counter opposing mag so all i need it to do is live gholdengo
my brain is a bit 500 ping lmao
and then i can probably take care of encore disable valiant
so long as they are special variation with moonblast
with tusk
IDK
Im rambling random thoughts
me need rater
go non choiced zone with hslam, atk booster or band tusk to beat ghold, and flutter mane that beats ape (no specs doesnt work)
BET
There’s a flutter that beats ape?
Stopped using ape because of flutter
doesnt cm flutter win?
it can get a decent mu, but its really not an ape counter
@slow mica is making a hitlist hard?
Not rlly
U just need to know matchups
Analyses can also be a way to help new players
Know good teammates for mons, what they beat and do
It takes a bit to get used to but my main advice for making a hitlist is never blindly assume matchups based off typing and stuff. For every mu I’m not 100% sure and have tested before I make sure to calc and test to be sure ik what actually wins
Like in gen 8 people kinda assumed avalugg or magnezone would beat gardevoir but because of trace and sturdy gardevoir actually wins
Or a gen 9 example might be that band Meowscarada beats ghold when in reality it at best rolls physdef
And can get focus blasted by scarf
event raikou vs keldeo in bw as well
keldeo just ohkos
(Albeit it doesn’t if it’s not event raikou)
but a ton of people didn’t know that matchup prior to 6 months ago and just assumed that raikou won, but actually keldeo just ohkoed lol
imo when u make a hitlist, especially this gen with so few mons, you can often identify 3 or 4 mons therein that arent beatable by one pokemon. so u would have to choose a different second mon
sometimes this is how i come up with good cores for more teams
just woke up
banded knock kills?
cuz dengo can also run air balloon
oh it does kill
i think
ye if they are balloon, i think band knock wins. not gonna ohko, but it should 2 shot
they can have dazzling gleam or or psychic to revenge kill tho
im scared they are gonna run air balloon 4 attacks
psychic does the same as make it rain, which you should bulk anyway for scarf
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 224 HP / 48 Atk / 4 SpD / 232 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Headlong Rush
- Knock Off```speed for timid ghold, attack kos max defense ghold, bulks modest ghold psychic while maximizing hp for rolls vs slaking and meowscarada
or if you like to have more power
EVs: 184 Atk / 92 SpD / 232 Spe
Jolly Nature
still beats ghold, but dumps attack instead of bulk
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sheist now right?
btw i think flash cannon over heavy slam as a steel stab because of garg
pretend slam is body press
also meant to have relaxed nature
am no post new paste cuz i dont wanna spam ping
wait garg has no usage
ok other reason then
is that things are heavy as shit
trust me
b- garg will never appear
I think you lose to non-cb donphan
how
has sturdy, so it lives hit from flutter and kills back, clicks counter on tusk and ice shard -> eq on zone
shit
what do i do
ok
thank you for this information
honestly its like i should make a fresh team
like this is a solid mane team
scratch thta i just need to beat everything
hold up
i can build that i think
atp just use the sample team https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/1v1-sample-teams-read-the-op-submissions-closed.3713073/#post-9441232
BRUH
I HAD THE SAME COMP AS ONE OF THE SAMPLES
TREESONG
I COULD HAVE STOLEN THIS SHIT OFFBAT
WTH
Ngl I thought you had tried to edit it since a lot of people do that with their first teams
Loool
Which would you say is the best rn?
Is it normal to have 1500 elo and go down to 1000 again? Happend to me fast
They are all just submissions, from first glance the Double Steel + EncoreDisable Valiant one looks good.
i know all of these ones r pre chi-yu ban and pre greninja
doesnt mean they cant be good tho
I went from 1527 to 1300 in 15 games
This does happen sadly
Part of how 1v1 works…
It’s fun
Don’t sacrifice your team structure to do it on low ladder though it’s not worth the effort
I went from 1547 to 1000, it's better for you since your not stuck at low ladders like 1100-1200
Now I've been stuck on 1050-1100 elo
https://pokepast.es/78f6c08a3740af6c
Rate my team guys
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Yeah that's the worst it took me a very long time to cross the 1200 mark
I mean I've crossed it several times but I'm stuck again idk why
Yeah the sets their are so weird
Gholdengo brought me back to 1450
I'll try your team out, some good teams can't be used on low ladder
Scarf Meowscwrada is pretty much never good, you lose on power so the only thing you can hit is Greninja, you should check the set compendium for that Gholdengo moveset and Water Veil isn’t really needed on this team, I’d recommend Unaware so you can beat Corviknight
I tried meow
And yes
A Grafaiai litteraly stomped me
That wasnt even dig
Set
Tbh I have never clicked dodonzo and always use wither meow or ghold
Yeah meow has been very bad
What should I change?
i'd say gholdengo + meow is a nice core you've got going on, gholdengo handles annihilape, flutter mane and iron valiant for you
you noticeably lose to iron bundle though
so you can craft a third around that
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i recommend these sets
Ah fuck
i did it again
you can choose adamant or jolly on meowscarada by your choice
adamant was the previous one most people used but with greninja in the game i'd recommend jolly more
but you can use either, as of now you are losing to greninja but you can make a third around that like i said
@slow mica can you pm charm on ps to play me in monopoke
take the win
idc abt monopoke
okepic
First attempt at making a really strong BSS team especially with the paradox mons running around, what do y’all think? https://pokepast.es/8c23bdf6ae42abcf
wrong tier
Is this not the chat for BSS?
this is for 1v1 the format
https://pokepast.es/e21f6d130d83f5f8 ss, idk what the evs on hitmonlee do but the team gets 3-0ed by fairies if u have bad sleep rng idk what fits as 3rd tho
I don't even know how I survived https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen91v1-1793249224-fcu6pf4jq3jqlub0gq6c9plphbew5g4pw
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Marshmelto and Kyocks ([Gen 9] 1v1)
i had a hitmonlee that beat most zera if you wanna go off that
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 32 HP / 208 Atk / 228 Def / 40 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Earthquake
- Bulk Up
- High Jump Kick / Close Combat```
yeah
fakeout> bu> eq
hitmonlee sucks
idk you have to setguess a lot
dude i spent half an hour building hitmonlee
true
loooool ty tho
Hey can you build me a greninja set?
The ocky way, just to counter flutter ghold
Keep chilling water tho for sturdy mons
it was cool back when jirachi was legal in SS pre dlc 1
https://pokepast.es/16634e1d749304da sv 1v1s (giga impact chien-pao)
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did you get banned
icbb
You’re fine
🔥
looks pretty solid on first glance, although a lot of threats can outplay
The valiant matchup looks annoying but I think dirge can do it?
u beat encore disable with encore t1, but u get 2 shot by specs shadow ball. would need spa + blast burn to remove setguess
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Farigiraf and Tinkaton are rarely seen Pokemon and Sableye needs good compatible teammates to do much, all three of these Pokemon need support to work and using all three of them together doesn't produce good results. You lose to Greninja, Dondozo, Dragapult and Iron Bundle for example. The team overall isn't bad, but it could use some work. If you don't want to change anything, I'd definitely recommend a change in sets.
Leftovers is usually a useless item in 1v1 due to matches being short and items like Sitrus Berry usually being preferred, Tinkaton should run Air Balloon and Encore in my opinion to bait in Donphan. As well as this, Encore is generally an incredibly move that you should use.
Tinkaton @ Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 Atk / 12 SpD / 244 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Encore
- Play Rough
- Gigaton Hammer
This is a set I used a while ago
Tinkaton (F) @ Air Balloon
Ability: Pickpocket
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 8 HP / 244 Atk / 96 Def / 4 SpD / 156 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Encore
- Gigaton Hammer
- Play Rough
You can also use this more optimised set that I found which has more reliable matchups against lugg, donphan, garchomp, breloom and no band fire punch slaking.
That Sableye moveset is also all over the place and the moves have no correlation, check the Set Compendium for a better set. For now I'll refer you to these which are the most similar
Def Roseli (Sableye) @ Roseli Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Def / 104 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Metal Burst
- Encore
- Disable
- Recover
SpD Roseli (Sableye) @ Roseli Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 48 Def / 208 SpD
Sasy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Metal Burst
- Disable / Taunt
- Recover
- Skill Swap
goddamn swordis on top of it
ye..
Ok, but Judy curious, why pickpocket and bit Mold Breaker
u steal the item after air balloon pops. helps vs some banded mons
Ok
https://pokepast.es/ba36abc1a1d3bee4 pretty basic phan lure with bundle, i might actually be building for no johns
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This looks like it hard loses to annihilape and a bunch of other stuff
If you want to use bundle I think pairing it with fire types usually does decent
Like tflame or dirge
Personally I also think using bundles faster than gren or Meowscarada is good
I’m not sure if that one is or not I’m on mobile
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 224 HP / 116 Def / 168 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Freeze-Dry
- Chilling Water```set that beats donphan + gren + meow
we take the 25% roll on band head smash
speed for meta threat kilowattrel
u could probably make a fwg team with it, but imo u should just use a good third, and not worry about the type asthetics
yup!!
a lot of structures work, but more than structures, I think that it’s nicer to not focus on the structures and to focus on just what fits well together instead
i feel like my builds need some structure
i see, ty
``Skeledirge @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Blaze
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 SpA
Bold Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Torch Song
- Encore
- Blast Burn`` does this beat all ape
or some
most
is it bad to run it as my ape check
as the only one i wouldnt, but it probably wins like 80% of the time
``Iron Bundle @ Choice Specs
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 224 HP / 116 Def / 168 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Freeze-Dry
- Chilling Water
Skeledirge @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Blaze
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 SpA
Bold Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Torch Song
- Encore
- Blast Burn `` im thinking like sylv or something for last
i havent built in a long time i dont remember stuff about this tier
sylv is probably good
just make sure it beats tusk and espathra
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Balloon moth for Rock Tomb earthquake donphan, also beats magnezone
first thing is ur missing 4 evs on tusk
just dump into speed or whatev
2nd thing ur opposing bundle mu looks very sus
and you are specs taunt
u don't need moth to beat donphan as you have tusk
and you lose to band head smash
I forgot about taunt
I changed it
I changed my entire team as I fell down
I'm using a team with donphan Magnezone and tusk
Im tired of sturdy mons and people using sturdy mons to climb
I might aswell join them
link the team your want rated please
Prob want AV moth so you don’t have to gamble with your iron bundle versus opposing iron bundle
Replace it with something that beats AV Azu too
Lmao unironically
Iron Leaves looks good here
Maybe dont quote me on that
lmao
I decided to fix that problem
By.. Using espathra
Substitute calm mind to beat others
tusk should win
Bulk up tusk
33% ohko if I don't bulk up
I just did it but I didn't save the replay
O right that’s fine then
U just have to predict their azu set
Bc if they’re stall u click moth
o ye there is a bundle that beats av azu
personally i dont like it
but i can recommend it
the thief set
i think
👍
https://pokepast.es/04885e6758d522b6 how do i not get 3-0ed by meowscadara
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u can't without changing mons/big opportunity cost
No and that's kind of the problem here
This team doesn't have any real core that I can see from first glance, what were you trying to go with?
All of these three mons need the appropriate teammates to support them, Baxcalibur and Kingambit naturally due to them being niche picks and Sableye needs teammates to abuse its weaknesses. You can't really throw three random mons together and expect to work something out.
If you want to improve this team I'd recommend building around one of the mons which you have here, providing two teammates which best cover their weaknesses
well
i tried sableye
ig kingambit just isnt a good stell here
i dont rlly rememeber why i put bax last
Ye u can build around Sableye
Check the VR and see what you lose to
Off the top of my head something like
Sylveon sounds good
Mental Herb to beat Iron Val
Helps with beating dark-types
Wait act do u even need mental herb
bc u can just hyper voice --> hyper beam
ye
hvoice->hbeam wins 90% of the time
cant remember off the top of my head if hvoice kills
it does
cool
so sab/syl and whos the 3rd
something that beats fairies?
would like
zone work?
I wouldn’t type stack in this meta
Double dark with a dragon as your third is extremely exploitable and prone to just dropping to fairies
Pretty much what sword said you could probably try like corv as a second or something maybe?
alright, ll try magnet rise zone for now
For?
Personally I dislike magnet rise zone
It is for Donphan, right?
Even though it can just Rock Tomb into Encore
Instead of “beating Donphan” you win against 1 set out of 3, band.
idk its my comfort zone set
ooh yea
And can claim KOs
ill run specs ig
Ye
cool ty
https://pokepast.es/7a3c5d86f8676658 garchomp for sylveon.. Idk
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the chomp does not beat sylv
Yeah figured
I have a feeling iron tail might but then again u have to gamble with babiri berry
If u want to have a dragon that beats Sylv (unless incredibly rare scarf) hacorus with poison jab kills
IIRC
it does not
you need le cb iron tail
+1 252+ Atk Haxorus Iron Tail vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 370-436 (93.9 - 110.6%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
75% accuracy with a 62.5% chance to OHKO

that's like a 46 percent chance to win that mu
i wouldnt run naive chomp without eq either
i dont think theres really a way to fix this without sacrificing your ape mu either
would probs have to swap a mon out
https://pokepast.es/5c8cc03f8074fd04 cant make salazzle work :/
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@uncut urchin too
I have been summoned
You aren’t on the list yet but figured I’d ping
Would corrosive lazzle be better here
Oh hmm corv mu
Ig you protect then disable taunt
Toxic
Encore their next move
Should be fine but sub owns hmmm
Even though gren will hopefully be leaving soon
This team is not great at dealing with it
Phan too
You probs want a specific ground beater
Sylv is probs fine but idk if phan is helping here much
iirc the sylv-phan mu is hvoice->hvoice/beam and you win if they arnt band hslam
cant remmeber tho
Does gunk not ohko sylv?
Since like band heavy Slam is more common on other stuff like great tusk
its the same bp right
Correct
sylv usually drops i think
252+ Atk Choice Band Donphan Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 384-452 (97.4 - 114.7%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
yeah roll is heavily in favor of donphan
phan also outspeeds
Gren is gone officially so ignore this
😎
frog
zamn two frogs gone