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balmy pilot
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hi what do we think about this team?

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Ability: Pressure  
EVs: 240 Atk / 144 Def / 124 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Dragon Dance  
- Icicle Spear  
- Outrage  
- Endure  

Zapdos @ Leftovers  
Ability: Pressure  
EVs: 200 HP / 56 Def / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
- Substitute  
- Protect  
- Toxic  
- Thunderbolt  

Metagross @ Weakness Policy  
Ability: Clear Body  
EVs: 248 HP / 232 Atk / 28 Def  
Brave Nature  
- Meteor Mash  
- Bullet Punch  
- Earthquake  
- Psychic  


glacial flower
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I assume this is SS?

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looks fairly solid at a glance, I'll give more concrete feedback in a bit

balmy pilot
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yeah ss

tropic zodiac
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Do you beat rhyperior?

balmy pilot
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doubt it

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kyurem probably does 12 with spear

glacial flower
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only would be possible with a metagross revamp

tropic zodiac
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Something like that ye

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^^was about to suggest it

balmy pilot
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i think if i dd t1 against rhyp

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maybe custap

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then endure on wrecker

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hmm

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ehh its obv unreliable

tropic zodiac
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Ye…

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you can probs revamp metagross somehow

balmy pilot
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Skeledirge @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Unaware
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 184 Def / 76 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Will-O-Wisp
  • Torch Song
  • Blast Burn
  • Hex

Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Outrage
  • Earthquake
  • Fling
  • Rock Slide

Scizor @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 48 HP / 252 Atk / 208 SpD
Adamant Nature

  • Swords Dance
  • Bullet Punch
  • Close Combat
  • Pounce
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built my first sv team what dow e think

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was considering going counter sciz not sure what pounce does

glacial flower
tropic zodiac
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solid ye

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Oh ye icy wind prim would do it

sweet ferry
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policy dirge is interesting

tropic zodiac
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policy dirge is one of the main sets ye

sweet ferry
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oh really

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i thought it was mostly lefties

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ig not

balmy pilot
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nah

tropic zodiac
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My biggest issue with that team would be pult probably?

balmy pilot
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for which team

tropic zodiac
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sv

balmy pilot
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scarf chomp wins no?

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tell me nobodys running scarf pult

tropic zodiac
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Ya know

glacial flower
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it should

tropic zodiac
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I did not see the scarf

sweet ferry
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scarf pult LMAO

tropic zodiac
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On the chomp

balmy pilot
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can prob change zap to offensive

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i just wanted to use that one

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cuz i always use offensive

eternal otter
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Ye I’ve had that happen whenever I try using stall

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Realize I lose to shifu and cringe

balmy pilot
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it just doesnt cover enough

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and dd kyurem should cover msot of the weird stuff

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that toxic beats

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like gastro type shit

eternal otter
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Ye

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Chansey

sweet ferry
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nat dex ou?

tropic zodiac
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inb4 rest chansey

balmy pilot
sweet ferry
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oh fuck im stupid

balmy pilot
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charm chansey?

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i could sub but eh i like endure

glacial flower
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endure for pz I assume

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fun lure

balmy pilot
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yep

eternal otter
balmy pilot
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i enjoy my random endure mons

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skele isnt consistent?

eternal otter
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You technically need like max def

glacial flower
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also uses water veil

eternal otter
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You’re probably fine usually

glacial flower
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p consistently

balmy pilot
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//dt water veil

glacial flower
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blocks burns

eternal otter
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Ngl I’ve never seen water veil in action

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But I’ve heard people larp it

balmy pilot
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unaware is generally better right

glacial flower
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yee

tropic zodiac
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water veil I feel is better on band?

balmy pilot
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we'll take it

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good 1st team

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thx for feedback all

glacial flower
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better than my first

tropic zodiac
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and like, unaware on curse sets

eternal otter
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I like unaware on both

balmy pilot
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im gonna try specs peli next

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or do we like scarf

eternal otter
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Oof

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Gl

tropic zodiac
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specs peli seems fun

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I wanna try it too

eternal otter
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You might need specs for ape

balmy pilot
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i can only build if i have a comp to work with

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so now i can actually touch the tier

eternal otter
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Kek same

tropic zodiac
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I need speed tiers lool

balmy pilot
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i dont ever touch speed tiers tbh

tropic zodiac
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Fsr I work best with a speed tiers open

eternal otter
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They’re good because I’m lazy

tropic zodiac
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I don’t really touch vr or comp usually

balmy pilot
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ev explanations are very helpful too

eternal otter
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Ye

balmy pilot
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all others are useless to me

tropic zodiac
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unless bw

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bw is where I touch the comp

eternal otter
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Goat bo and company

tropic zodiac
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So true

glacial flower
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bo + fraun carrying 1v1

balmy pilot
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Turn 1Skeledirge used Will-O-Wisp!The opposing Iron Hands avoided the attack!The opposing Iron Hands used Earthquake!It's super effective!(Skeledirge lost 50.6% of its health!)(Skeledirge used its Weakness Policy!)The Weakness Policy sharply raised Skeledirge's Attack!The Weakness Policy sharply raised Skeledirge's Sp. Atk!Turn 2Skeledirge used Will-O-Wisp!The opposing Iron Hands avoided the attack!The opposing Iron Hands used Earthquake!It's super effective!(Skeledirge lost 49.4% of its health!)Skeledirge fainted!Koalabossxxx won the battle!Koalabossxxx's rating: 1329 → 1348(+19 for winning)NlCHOLAS's rating: 1320 → 1301(-19 for losing)

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i missed my wip against donbozo previous game

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thats 3

eternal otter
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Moment

glacial flower
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😔

tropic zodiac
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wisp moment

eternal otter
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Be aware pelipper doesn’t beat chi yu btw

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When you build

balmy pilot
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nvm

tropic zodiac
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love the 75+10 accuracy

glacial flower
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💀

balmy pilot
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not using that dogshit

tropic zodiac
eternal otter
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You drop to specs and can’t kill av

tropic zodiac
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How long will the burning fish remain in the tier

eternal otter
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Idk

tropic zodiac
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that is the question

eternal otter
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At least until Thursday

balmy pilot
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were b anning that guy?

eternal otter
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It’s otr

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With faking

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Valiant

balmy pilot
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neither seem too problematic

eternal otter
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Idk what’s gonna be the result

tropic zodiac
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on the radar

balmy pilot
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i havent been playing much tho

tropic zodiac
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chi-yu is ridiculous

glacial flower
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chi yu is like ok

eternal otter
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Chi yu forces half the tier to run 252/252+ spdef

tropic zodiac
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Valiant doesn’t seem like too big a problem

eternal otter
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To try and beat it

glacial flower
eternal otter
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And they still get fried

balmy pilot
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whats a cool one that beats chiyu

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ill build around that

tropic zodiac
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I am still on the valiant is overrated train

balmy pilot
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can any sab win

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wait no

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ofc not

tropic zodiac
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dark type

eternal otter
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Not reliably

sweet ferry
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gallade beats chi-yu surely

tropic zodiac
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and fire type

eternal otter
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Kiiinda

balmy pilot
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im sure it can finess

tropic zodiac
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Scarf roasts it

sweet ferry
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idk anything about 1v1s lol i just like vest gallade

eternal otter
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Wisp might win

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I’d have to calc

glacial flower
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garganacl

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gg

eternal otter
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Ew

tropic zodiac
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doesn’t modest scarf overheat just nuke

eternal otter
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Salamence should win

tropic zodiac
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SALT ROCK MY BELOVED

balmy pilot
eternal otter
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Ye

sweet ferry
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whats the adolescent version of garg

tropic zodiac
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ye

eternal otter
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Would have to be scarf tho

sweet ferry
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smack some eviolite on that boy

eternal otter
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Eq

balmy pilot
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nope

glacial flower
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naclstack

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or smth

tropic zodiac
sweet ferry
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ya

tropic zodiac
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Nacli*

sweet ferry
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no thats the baby

tropic zodiac
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I AM DYING

balmy pilot
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ok whats a viable one tha tbeats chiyu

sweet ferry
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lmao

balmy pilot
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other than chomper

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bundle good?

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with speed boost thing

glacial flower
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azu

eternal otter
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Azu dozo valiant ape (spdef)

glacial flower
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av bulks bundle

tropic zodiac
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When your autocorrect automatically makes it a 1v1er 💀

eternal otter
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Bundle loses t

balmy pilot
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fuck chiyu

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lets ban it

tropic zodiac
sweet ferry
eternal otter
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There’s decent chi yu answers

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Just annoying

balmy pilot
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hmm

tropic zodiac
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But bigger thing

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Let’s ban zard

balmy pilot
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im gonna try and learn this tier

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better than doing physics that stuff sucks

tropic zodiac
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#makeorasplayableagain

tropic zodiac
sweet ferry
eternal otter
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Oh lum phan wins

tropic zodiac
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LUM PHAN MY BELOVED

balmy pilot
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its mostly deg keeping zard there right

glacial flower
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speed booster valiant

balmy pilot
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how about roaring moon

tropic zodiac
balmy pilot
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that wins right

eternal otter
tropic zodiac
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recently

eternal otter
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Ye it should nick

balmy pilot
tropic zodiac
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He wants to ban all zard now iirc

balmy pilot
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oh

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that wont go

glacial flower
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well he wants x banned

balmy pilot
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lol

tropic zodiac
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oh just x okay

balmy pilot
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i meant y

glacial flower
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and will take y banned if it means

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both are gone

tropic zodiac
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y is not banworthy

glacial flower
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+1

balmy pilot
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i dont the much of the oras playerbase wants x gone

tropic zodiac
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oras players just have Stockholm syndrome

eternal otter
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Stockholm-

balmy pilot
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which roaring moon do u like more @eternal otter

eternal otter
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I don’t like any but what are the options again?

tropic zodiac
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and listen to [redacted] too much

eternal otter
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Scarf and like dd?

sweet ferry
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is booster good on moon

balmy pilot
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speed booster energy

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and scarf

tropic zodiac
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is there a speed booster roaring moon?

balmy pilot
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hm

sweet ferry
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isn't speed booster strictly better than scarf

balmy pilot
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speed booster seems better

eternal otter
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Speed booster is probably

sweet ferry
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or does it depend on ev

balmy pilot
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no

tropic zodiac
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like is bulky speed booster good

eternal otter
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Depends on what you need

balmy pilot
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Bulks band breloom and specs chi-yu hbeam, speed for 90s.bo_bobson27 & fraun

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works for me

eternal otter
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Ye that sounds good

glacial flower
balmy pilot
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when do more mons get introduced

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to sv

tropic zodiac
eternal otter
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Home

glacial flower
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soon™️

eternal otter
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Whenever that is

balmy pilot
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free melm

tropic zodiac
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I

balmy pilot
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we haveskele now

tropic zodiac
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Why did it

balmy pilot
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and dondozo

tropic zodiac
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Autocorrect

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To vore

balmy pilot
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and the pig guys

sweet ferry
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**we need more unaware pokemon **

glacial flower
tropic zodiac
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I DIDNT EVEN

balmy pilot
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alright roaring moon 1st

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we need to beat fairies

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and physical attacker

eternal otter
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And ape

sweet ferry
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scizor good?

balmy pilot
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and ape

eternal otter
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And ghold probably

balmy pilot
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and ghold

eternal otter
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And dondozo

tropic zodiac
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Scizor is okay

balmy pilot
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and donbozo

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counter sciz?

tropic zodiac
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has a lot of things it can do

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I’ve found it underwhelming though

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As usual

balmy pilot
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hm my last team had counter sciz

sweet ferry
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ok

balmy pilot
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ill try smth else

glacial flower
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toxapex 💯

eternal otter
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You’d have to cover ape and ghold in one Mon

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Which is annoying

balmy pilot
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do any?

tropic zodiac
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NOO NOT THE PEX

eternal otter
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Ghold would probably be good?

tropic zodiac
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also doesn’t pex die to overheat twice or something ridiculous?

balmy pilot
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which is best in the mirror?

eternal otter
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What mirror?

tropic zodiac
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unless it clicks recover turn 1

balmy pilot
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ghold

tropic zodiac
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wp probs?

eternal otter
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Probs specs or like spdef wp

tropic zodiac
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spdef wp is my guess

balmy pilot
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so what beats both?

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r there any mons

eternal otter
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Ape and ghold?

tropic zodiac
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beats both what

balmy pilot
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yes

eternal otter
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Oh tflame

tropic zodiac
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oh

balmy pilot
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ape and ghold

eternal otter
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Usually

tropic zodiac
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tfl-

balmy pilot
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i once

eternal otter
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Ghold rolls it

tropic zodiac
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ok

balmy pilot
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didnt kill a ghold

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in tour

eternal otter
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Ye

balmy pilot
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not using that guy

tropic zodiac
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f

sweet ferry
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pult?

balmy pilot
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scarf ghold prob

tropic zodiac
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pult loses to scarf

balmy pilot
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wins

eternal otter
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Pult vs ghold is dubious

balmy pilot
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how abt kasib dd

eternal otter
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Especially if you’re running one with an ape mu

tropic zodiac
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kasib

balmy pilot
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prob still loses to ape

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plus it doesnt cover anything

eternal otter
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Jugulis

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💀

balmy pilot
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roaring moon + pult sounds ass

eternal otter
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Check if moon beats reflect ghold

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It may

balmy pilot
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@signal pendant

glacial flower
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iron jugulus is the new excadrill

eternal otter
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Probs not tho

balmy pilot
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does it

eternal otter
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I can’t calc on mobile

balmy pilot
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ok lets just ban ape

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imo

eternal otter
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We tried

balmy pilot
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its inevitable

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no rush tho

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can you believe

eternal otter
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I think home is coming before the ban chain ends

sweet ferry
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what does monkey run in 1v1s

balmy pilot
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i found 2 dollar cookie crisps at cvs

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usually theyre 7 dollars

sweet ferry
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chesto resto?

eternal otter
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Zamn

balmy pilot
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sometimes wp

eternal otter
balmy pilot
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it can cover a lot

sweet ferry
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right

eternal otter
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Moves include encore taunt bulk up rage fist drain punch counter low sweep gunk shot

balmy pilot
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we did an ape suspect and it didnt get banned

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thats surprising

eternal otter
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I wasn’t surprised

sweet ferry
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ape is such a divisive little guy

eternal otter
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People don’t think ape is good

balmy pilot
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ok 2 ghost types

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this cant be impossible to bea twiht one mon

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semi viable mon

eternal otter
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Tflame or jugulis are probs the best answers

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If you want to get tricky maybe a tusk

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But that’s kinda sus

balmy pilot
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how abt zard

glacial flower
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double ghost is like one of the most common type cores atm

eternal otter
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Zard would work if you hit

tropic zodiac
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o jugulis

glacial flower
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bc ghosts are broken

eternal otter
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Specs

balmy pilot
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i dont miss

tropic zodiac
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Does jugulis beat the ghosts?

balmy pilot
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my hurricanes

eternal otter
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Just don’t die to scarf Tbolt

balmy pilot
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oml

tropic zodiac
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does it ohko gholdengo?

eternal otter
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I mean it’s rare

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But

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Just in advance it may happen

balmy pilot
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252 SpA Gholdengo Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Charizard: 228-270 (76.7 - 90.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Copied

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all g

eternal otter
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Cool

tropic zodiac
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NOO NOT ZARD

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AWAY AWAY AWAY

eternal otter
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It is a victim Mon yes

balmy pilot
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better than mf tflame

eternal otter
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Tflame at least beats valiant

tropic zodiac
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use jugulis

balmy pilot
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zard loses?

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to valiant

eternal otter
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Ye

balmy pilot
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how abt custap

eternal otter
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Illegal

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Not in game

balmy pilot
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aw shit

tropic zodiac
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certified valiant moment

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There is no custap it is the end of all good things

balmy pilot
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forgot abt that

balmy pilot
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or no?

eternal otter
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No info

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Probably tho

tropic zodiac
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unsure

eternal otter
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It’s been in every game

tropic zodiac
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if it does I can spam custap garganacl again

balmy pilot
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which valiant beats zard

eternal otter
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Specs and depending on item encore disable

tropic zodiac
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genuinely cannot wait for home to release

balmy pilot
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whatever ill bulk tbolt

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and i wont run into encore disable

eternal otter
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Specs is rare af

tropic zodiac
balmy pilot
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nvm its a pain to bulk

eternal otter
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You may be able to get away with LO zard

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If it kills ape

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Which would beat encore disable

balmy pilot
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252 SpA Life Orb Charizard Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 248+ SpD Annihilape: 322-382 (76.1 - 90.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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lol

tropic zodiac
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Does iron hands learn electric terrain?

balmy pilot
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oh

eternal otter
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Yes lumi

tropic zodiac
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I am having unviable ideas

eternal otter
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Hungryfoodies idea

balmy pilot
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how abt flamethrower into hurricane

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can i run modest zard

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what do we think

eternal otter
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Don’t get encored and lose

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But ye

tropic zodiac
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328 is a fake speed tier in this gen

balmy pilot
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252 SpA Life Orb Charizard Flamethrower vs. 248 HP / 248+ SpD Annihilape: 133-156 (31.4 - 36.8%) -- 70.3% chance to 3HKO

balmy pilot
eternal otter
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Ye

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It’s just chi yu

balmy pilot
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last move for zard

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flame hurricane blast

tropic zodiac
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there is no fish

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I refuse to believe that the fish exists

eternal otter
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Go like wisp or some shit

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Counter

balmy pilot
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how abt fblast for chiyu

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bulk specs

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dpulse

eternal otter
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You

tropic zodiac
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dragon dance

balmy pilot
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252 SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Dark Pulse vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Charizard: 309-364 (104 - 122.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

tropic zodiac
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gg

balmy pilot
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this is comedic

eternal otter
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Probably can’t bulk specs

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And you won’t kill av

balmy pilot
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were not running modest are we

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ah true

eternal otter
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Chi yu is strong

balmy pilot
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qhtever ive got

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roaring moon

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Roaring Moon @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 144 HP / 220 Def / 12 SpD / 132 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Dragon Dance
  • Outrage
  • Acrobatics
  • Crunch

Charizard @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
Tera Type: Fire
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Flamethrower
  • Hurricane
  • Blast Burn
  • Will-O-Wisp
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phenomenal start

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might have to submit this as a sample

eternal otter
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Oh

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You have a third

balmy pilot
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yep

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lets see

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need to beat bundle

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?

eternal otter
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Meowscarada

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Dozo

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Iron hands

balmy pilot
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blast burn wisp skele?

eternal otter
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Lmao

tropic zodiac
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can we ban chi-yu

eternal otter
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Could go some ape maybe

balmy pilot
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nope forgot abt bundle lol

tropic zodiac
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idk what to say for on the radar

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I want to make some stupid joke about fish being op

glacial flower
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splashyyy ~!

eternal otter
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I keep saying it but chi yu is just adult gon x nemo

balmy pilot
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bundle meow dozo iron hands

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surely thats doable

eternal otter
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Ye

balmy pilot
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what r we thinking

tropic zodiac
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flygon?

eternal otter
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Hxh

balmy pilot
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oh ik that guy

tropic zodiac
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weeb….

eternal otter
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No..

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I’m not..

tropic zodiac
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surely not….

balmy pilot
tropic zodiac
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okay admittedly I watch too many slice of life anime

eternal otter
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Bundle wins

tropic zodiac
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anyways bundle

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yeah

balmy pilot
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it runs physdef?

eternal otter
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And probably iron hands without spore

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Ye

glacial flower
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it can

balmy pilot
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i see

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cant wait for custap

tropic zodiac
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maybe having a mon not immediately die to everything would be nice (bundle)

eternal otter
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This feels harder than it should be

tropic zodiac
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there’s no good teams this meta

eternal otter
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Wonder if ghold

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Eh no

tropic zodiac
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probs goodra saves this meta

eternal otter
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Baby dialga rawwr

tropic zodiac
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help I am tempted to run goodra avalugg

eternal otter
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L(rxc)

tropic zodiac
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I have no energy my brain rn is unviable

eternal otter
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Oh

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Maybe some

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Hold on

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Oh fuck

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Flutter wins

balmy pilot
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oh

eternal otter
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Argh

balmy pilot
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what

eternal otter
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I thought flutter beat your list

tropic zodiac
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This meta needs to be simplified

eternal otter
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But it beats your team too

balmy pilot
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aw shit

tropic zodiac
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time to anti-flutter flutter

eternal otter
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Fuck sv

tropic zodiac
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maybe we just ban every ghost type known to man

eternal otter
#

Realistically you cannot cover everything

balmy pilot
#

this is how ss building felt to me

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maybe lo zard is too quirky

eternal otter
#

Ye but ss had

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Enough mons

balmy pilot
#

yea

tropic zodiac
#

this is why y’all should play BW

eternal otter
#

That even if you didn’t cover them

balmy pilot
#

ive been playing a little bw

eternal otter
#

There was a 20% chance you saw it

balmy pilot
#

bo5 @tropic zodiac ?

eternal otter
#

Sv it’s like

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Impossible to cover the top 10 mons

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Without valiant ghold

balmy pilot
#

ill figure it out

#

trus

tropic zodiac
#

Also have covid

balmy pilot
#

i hope you feel better soon

tropic zodiac
#

but uh maybe

#

Let me import teams

balmy pilot
#

dont if you dont feel like it

tropic zodiac
#

ehh no loss if I do….

balmy pilot
#

bundle meow dozo iron hands flutter

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id corv?

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nah

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can sylv?

eternal otter
#

N

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Meow drops it flutter kinda owns it

tropic zodiac
#

metagross did have a moment

balmy pilot
#

true

tropic zodiac
#

@glacial flower steel gem metagross is good I have proven it to myself

balmy pilot
#

how physdef is that

tropic zodiac
#

uh let me find it

balmy pilot
#

meow drops it

tropic zodiac
#

Metagross @ Steel Gem
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 124 Atk / 100 Def / 32 SpD
Adamant Nature

  • Meteor Mash
  • Zen Headbutt
  • Earthquake
  • Bullet Punch
#

@balmy pilot

balmy pilot
#

oh wow i expected a lot more def

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krook is shit

signal pendant
balmy pilot
#

does moon beat reflect ghold

tropic zodiac
#

korok is not good

tropic zodiac
#

krook*

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koroks are babies

signal pendant
#

its possible

balmy pilot
#

Roaring Moon @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 144 HP / 220 Def / 12 SpD / 132 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Dragon Dance
  • Outrage
  • Acrobatics
  • Crunch

Charizard @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Flamethrower
  • Hurricane
  • Blast Burn
  • Will-O-Wisp

Iron Valiant @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Spe
Naive Nature

  • Reflect
  • Shadow Claw
  • Moonblast
  • Disable
#

can i get in setbuilders

#

or do i have to make a set first

glacial flower
#

surely being the #1 seed for the 2022 circuit while building your own sets / teams is enough

balmy pilot
#

true

#

im also out of qc is that normal?

#

do i lose inactive qc when its a new gen

glacial flower
#

you asked to be removed but I can add you back if you want

balmy pilot
#

wtf

glacial flower
#

yeah

#

well asked to go to inactive

balmy pilot
#

mustve been in a weird move mb

#

mode

#

mood

glacial flower
#

wanna help with past gen ss / sv?

balmy pilot
#

ss sure sv well see

glacial flower
#

alr

tropic zodiac
#

OMG

#

MORE C&C PEEPS WELCOME BACK

eternal otter
balmy pilot
#

i do love my random endures

tropic zodiac
glacial flower
#

ok but

#

you are a nerd

tropic zodiac
#

Nou

glacial flower
#

you too

tropic zodiac
#

you more

glacial flower
#

fair

balmy pilot
#

you both

#

when is wc

tropic zodiac
#

like September

#

most likely won’t play this year

glacial flower
#

1671464416168.png 1v1 World Cup VII* - Managers signup starts August 21st

balmy pilot
#

i definitely will not try to manage

glacial flower
#

that's fine

#

will be an awkward time for most people

balmy pilot
#

hmm start of senior year

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thatll be interesting

tropic zodiac
#

#

nick why did I think you were in college

glacial flower
#

nick is baby

balmy pilot
tropic zodiac
#

I did not realise that he was that young

#

albeit uh ig age stuff is weird

#

I probs do not come off as being in the same year as itchy lol

glacial flower
#

people thought I was 14 when I first joined at 17

balmy pilot
#

i think most high schoolers on smog/ps just act like 14 year olds

glacial flower
#

I talked like this >_<

#

and like

#

leaned much harder into liking stufful

#
  • had a more cringe username
tropic zodiac
#

oh.

balmy pilot
#

i will get my nick account one day

tropic zodiac
#

yeah uh

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I joined trivia when I was 14

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and then very quickly entered the lumi catgirl phase

#

I am glad that is over

glacial flower
tropic zodiac
#

I DID LEAVE!!

glacial flower
#

umm

#

sure

tropic zodiac
#

I am not a catgirl!!!!

#

also

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Maybe 1v1 team rating channel

#

Isn’t the place for this

balmy pilot
#

first victim

glacial flower
#

dtfkylukj6sokemj54seix6r7o8lr6k5ej4wh35

balmy pilot
#

inaxgive means no pressure but 🤷‍♂️

glacial flower
#

oh I see

#

you don't have to have a certain level of activity

tropic zodiac
#

ripdozo

glacial flower
#

just when you are free / feel like it

tropic zodiac
balmy pilot
#

maybe ill learn bw more

#

that tier interests me

glacial flower
#

yess

tropic zodiac
#

wooo

balmy pilot
#

i tried learning it for last pl but that didnt go great

tropic zodiac
#

bw is nice

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It’s a lot like SS

balmy pilot
#
Ability: Natural Cure  
EVs: 228 Def / 136 SpA / 144 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Leech Seed  
- Substitute  
- Protect  
- Seed Flare  

office depot (Cresselia) @ Choice Scarf  
Ability: Levitate  
EVs: 52 HP / 224 Def / 232 Spe  
Bold Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Calm Mind  
- Trick  
- Rest  
- Ice Beam  

Zapdos @ Choice Specs  
Ability: Pressure  
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD  
Modest Nature  
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 Def  
- Thunderbolt  
- Heat Wave  
- Hidden Power [Ice]  
- Thunder  


tropic zodiac
#

o gm

#

iffy volc mu

balmy pilot
#

can i drop tbolt or thunder

#

it prob still loses doesnt it

tropic zodiac
#

Best idea would be drop hp ice for flying but iirc you still lose to bulky fire gem

#

And losing to volc is a big no

balmy pilot
#

yeah i learned that doing tryouts with shuny

#

charti was annoying

tropic zodiac
#

ye

balmy pilot
#

does it even have a comp set yet

tropic zodiac
#

I have very weird bw takes

tropic zodiac
balmy pilot
#

cool

tropic zodiac
#

It had a smogdex set at the very least

#

(ty itchy)

balmy pilot
#

ppl run scarf chien pao

#

fuck

tropic zodiac
#

oh no what are people doing now

balmy pilot
#

whatever im scrappign the zard

#

ive determined that chiyu needs a ban

#

at least my sciz team is solid ig

#

goatered

eternal otter
#

its so funny

balmy pilot
#

ngl they just took like a millisecond lkonger to click

eternal otter
#

ye that's exactly what happened with mine

signal pendant
#

i do this and still click counter

balmy pilot
#

probably smart

#

but nobody on ladder would

eternal otter
#

mine i even lost a 50/50 so they had 1 more counter pp than my sd pp

#

and they still clicked an attack the one turn i attacked

#

ggs!

idle stump
empty magnet
#

you might have problems with charm flutter, depending on how valiant works out

eternal otter
#

I would run more bulk on the valiant and consider mental herb bellibolt instead

#

For a better valiant mu

tropic zodiac
#

I did not see that team get posted oops

#

is there a good reason to run discharge over tbolt on bellibolt?

#

and ye mental herb belli for sure

slow mica
#

balls

slow mica
#

Ye run this set

#

Mental Herb can probably be swapped for Sitrus Berry but beating Iron Valiant is also cool, Donphan as well

#

For Iron Valiant I also recommend running bulk, you scan find the sets in the set compendium

#

The team is good, I think you will struggle against Reflect Gholdengo but I’m honestly not sure about the mu versus Band Donphan

#

👍

tropic zodiac
#

@slow mica why thunder

#

I tend to run uh

#

Soak thunderbolt parabolic charge slackoff

slow mica
#

The guaranteed dmg makes it better, there’s a reason for it but I honestly don’t know

#

Something something maybe Chi-Yu?

tropic zodiac
#

nothing more guaranteed than 100% accuracy

slow mica
#

Tru

tropic zodiac
#

It dies to chi-yu anyway

slow mica
#

Slack Off > Sucker Punch prob

#

O

#

Nvm

#

Glitched passed so I assumed it to be good

tropic zodiac
#

I have a set somewhere but I am tired and in desperate need of chocolate

#

I’ll probs put it somewhere at some point

balmy pilot
tropic zodiac
#

I did not

#

there is no chocolate

balmy pilot
#

Sorry to hear that

ruby sentinel
#

yo bellibolt discussion

#
Ability: Electromorphosis  
Tera Type: Electric  
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD  
Calm Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Parabolic Charge  
- Soak  
- Slack Off  
- Thunderbolt```
#

this beats val while still being able to hold sitrus

#

which helps in the chi yu mu

#

252 SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Bellibolt: 355-418 (84.1 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

#

-2 252 SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Bellibolt: 178-210 (42.1 - 49.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

#

good odds after parabolic charge+sitrus recovery

#

soak is good for misc unmons like tauros

#

revavroom

#

etc

#

and ye sucker isnt great since custap is nonexistent

#

oh also reflect gholdengo loses to band donphan

#

@previous conversation

balmy pilot
#

Fscts

worn moth
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#

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stable robin
#

O this is up and running now

ruby sentinel
#

ye

#

id recommend this spread for val instead of max/max

#
Ability: Quark Drive  
Tera Type: Fairy  
EVs: 244 HP / 136 Def / 128 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Protect  
- Encore  
- Disable  
- Moonblast```
#

you still get the speed booster but you're significantly bulkier which lets you better handle ape, iron hands, dondozo, physical attackers in general

worn moth
#

what about the rest of the team?

#

are they fine? or can I replace someone

ruby sentinel
#

id swap dondozo to clear amulet for the gholdengo/flutter mu

#

the composition itself is fine those 3 are all super good mons

#

oh actually you could probably go roseli ape if you wanted

#

chi yu just got banned so spdef ape is a lot worse

stable robin
#

ye was about to say

worn moth
#

so I drop leftovers for clear amulet on dondozo

ruby sentinel
#

ye

#
Roseli (Annihilape) @ Roseli Berry  
Ability: Defiant  
EVs: 136 HP / 116 Atk / 240 SpD / 16 Spe  
Careful Nature  
- Taunt
- Gunk Shot  
- Rage Fist
- Drain Punch 
#

here's a roseli ape spread

#

taunt is for corv

#

this also checks flutter since i think(?) it lives a shadow ball

#

although actually

#

i dont know if it beats bellibolt

#
Roseli (Annihilape) @ Roseli Berry  
Ability: Defiant  
EVs: 136 HP / 116 Atk / 240 SpD / 16 Spe  
Careful Nature  
- Bulk Up
- Gunk Shot  
- Rage Fist
- Taunt
#

ok this looks like it beats bellibolt

#

fighting stab isnt even that good anyway

azure hearth
#

you also probably don't have to worry about tera type too much

worn moth
#

and what do I do against opposing curse dondozos?

ruby sentinel
#

iron valiant

worn moth
#

thx, I'll give this a try

stable robin
ruby sentinel
#

ye

azure hearth
#

do you know the protect encore disable strategy to maximize struggle turns @worn moth

eternal otter
#

what blanched said sounds about right

#

your valiant mu looks a bit shaky tho

#

might be fine with gunk shot ape tho

young merlin
#

o

balmy pilot
#

🤯

prime dagger
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#

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prime dagger
#

first 1v1 team

#

thoughts?

slow mica
#

You get folded by fast Iron Bundle, it typically happens with FWG cores or a similar version of it like this team. You also lose to Dragapult and Gholdengo too. Iron Head is a good choice on Corviknight so you don’t lose to Flutter Mane but Body Press makes you lose out on killing other mons, Protect on Corvi is also useless.

signal pendant
#

protect beats valiant on corvi. i think meow and dirge cover ghold since dirge beats reflect and meow beats specs

empty magnet
#

might struggle into Arcanine

ruby sentinel
#

if you make meow adamant itll functionally beat all ghold (knock is like an 80% roll). id recommend swapping corv out for maybe av gholdengo? which should patch up the iffy pult/bundle/flutter mane mus

signal pendant
#

252+ Atk Choice Band Meowscarada Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 240 HP / 252+ Def Gholdengo: 344-408 (91.7 - 108.8%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

ruby sentinel
#

good enough 👍

#

also if you drop encore for slack off on dirge your arc mu is fine, arc has no way of meaningfully hitting dirge

signal pendant
#

team still has issues with hax and chienpao

ruby sentinel
#

252 Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skeledirge: 356-420 (86.4 - 101.9%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

#

👍

signal pendant
#

adamant who runs jolly

glacial flower
#

ada band is the only real spread

#

factual

ruby sentinel
#

oh really

#

uhh

#

ok probably less favorable roll then

signal pendant
#

its 68.75% iirc

ruby sentinel
#

ok wb tinkaton

#

chien pao pult flutter bundle

empty magnet
#

Doesn't that mean that you rely on dirge vs arc?

ruby sentinel
#

dirge vs arc is very favorable towards dirge

#

arc lost bulldoze this gen, it has no real way of hurting you

empty magnet
#

still has bulldoze

ruby sentinel
#

oh it sure does

#

why did i think it didnt

signal pendant
#

band crunch

prime dagger
#

it loses to meow

ruby sentinel
#

i still give better odds to dirge with slack off

empty magnet
#

fair enough

ruby sentinel
#

252+ Atk Choice Band Meowscarada Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Skeledirge: 336-396 (81.7 - 96.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

#

bburn kills back

prime dagger
#

oh damn

ruby sentinel
#

dirge is super fat yeah

signal pendant
#

was thinking u go anti-meow and wp bburn for specs power gem

ruby sentinel
#

ok im back with an epic calc

#

252+ Atk Arcanine Bulldoze vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Skeledirge: 92-110 (22.3 - 26.7%) -- 22.9% chance to 4HKO

#

arc is super fraudulent

signal pendant
#

yea u need band or lucky crunch to win

empty magnet
#

damn

ruby sentinel
#

i will not calc cb crunch because that gives it validity and i refuse to believe thats a real set

#

+1 252+ Atk Arcanine Crunch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Skeledirge: 184-218 (44.7 - 53%) -- 26.6% chance to 2HKO

prime dagger
#

Gholdengo @ Assault Vest
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 216 HP / 204 SpA / 24 SpD / 64 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Focus Blast
  • Make It Rain
  • Shadow Ball
  • Thunderbolt
ruby sentinel
#

but also thats a win for wp dirge

prime dagger
#

?

ruby sentinel
#

drop fblast for heavy slam

#

to beat cm flutter

prime dagger
#

flitter?

#

yea

ruby sentinel
#

y

prime dagger
#

i think ill keep mental herb

#

also ada on meow?

ruby sentinel
#

ada on meow

#

yeah

#

i would personally not keep mental herb as that loses to arc

#

and you have both an ape and a val beater

prime dagger
#

kk

signal pendant
#

me when the ape has defense

prime dagger
#

so

#

wp

ruby sentinel
#

can ape bulk cb meow?

#

yeah wp and drop encore for slack off

prime dagger
signal pendant
ruby sentinel
#

ok max bold ape can live

#

but

#

not a real set imo

#

also surely at that point dirge wins

signal pendant
#

sorta, can cteam with screech

#

but eh u have bigger problems with chien pao

#

and belligoat

eternal otter
#

flutter mu is rough too

#

idk how good av ghold is for it

#

oh it's slam nvm

prime dagger
#

Gholdengo used Make It Rain!
(The opposing Meowscarada lost 98% of its health!)
Gholdengo's Sp. Atk fell!

#

a

cobalt hollow
#

Maushold @ Wide Lens
Ability: Technician
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Population Bomb
  • Protect
  • Aerial Ace
  • Taunt

Garganacl @ Leftovers
Ability: Purifying Salt
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature

  • Iron Defense
  • Body Press
  • Salt Cure
  • Recover

Roaring Moon @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Outrage
  • Crunch
  • Acrobatics
  • Earthquake
tropic zodiac
#

hi, first thing is that tera is banned in 1v1

young merlin
#

yeah tera is banned, maushold isnt the best mon asw

#

this struggles with physdef mons like dondozo

#

asw as special attackers like iron bundle

#

struggles in general vs top threats (ape, meow, flutter)

ruby sentinel
#

those 3 are generally pretty niche mons, maushold especially is extremely niche bordering on unviable

#

i would recommend just picking one you really like and building a team around that mon

#

like for example if you really wanted to build around maushold you would want to partner it with smth that can both handle ghosts and very physically bulky mons

#

cb meowscarada would work pretty well there

#

or some kind of gholdengo

half summit
half summit
young merlin
#

physicaly bulky mons, id suggest weakness policy gholdengo or some kind of dondozo set

half summit
#

Already reached 1200 elo with garg moon and gholdengo

empty magnet
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#

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warm charm
#

it looks like it struggles vs skeledirge

empty magnet
#

corvi and breloom often feel like they beat the same things

#

also, yeah, dirge and arc have been problems

warm charm
#

which one out of breloom and corv do you find yourself clicking more?

empty magnet
#

loom, although that may just be because I want to use it

#

rock tomb > low kick on loon could help

eternal otter
#

Oh this does lose to ape and probably flutter

young merlin
#

do you beat speed booster tusk

empty magnet
#

I think this needs more work

austere orbit
#

this is a troll team that I have had success with

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#

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ruby sentinel
#

i cannot imagine how you've had success with that

austere orbit
#

Grumpig carries

#

I made a video if you want to see

#

of my Grumpig wins

tropic zodiac
#

you are losing to every ghost type that is good in the tier right now..

austere orbit
#

I beat a sableye

tropic zodiac
#

maybe I should have looked at the title of troll team...'

eternal otter
#

self destruct loses you the game

tropic zodiac
#

smely it is titled "troll team"

eternal otter
#

ik

gleaming hill
#

💀

austere orbit
#

I originally made it to mess with a guy but then I had some success with grumpig

glacial flower
austere orbit
#

electrode and maushold are just placeholders tbh

tropic zodiac
#

didn't someone use a swalot in a game during last PL

eternal otter
#

no

#

oh wait ye i was looking at wc

#

in oras and they lost

azure hearth
#

Building around grumpig is VERY uncommon but maybe we can make it work if that’s the dream

pearl bane
#

Damn.. This set is good

tropic zodiac
#

flutter mane can just start using charm

empty magnet
#

doesn't defiant make it so charm basically does nothing?

tropic zodiac
#

oh is it defiant

#

did not read

#

morningtime lumi, forgetting sleep is banned

#

anyways, yeah

empty magnet
#

in any event, +2 0 SpA Flutter Mane Shadow Ball vs. 136 HP / 240+ SpD Annihilape: 348-410 (88.1 - 103.7%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

#

so, you usually win v charm

tropic zodiac
#

wp could (in theory) click calm mind

#

and if you rage fist it just yeah

#

gets wp boost and 2.5 is an ohko

#

100%

austere orbit
#

Grumpig counters Flutter mane with earthquake easily

eternal otter
#

O_o

tropic zodiac
slow mica
#

charm flutter mane wins

#

maybe u could try psyshock specs if u want to use grumpig

#

but flutter with specs just one shots u and charm beats u again with the defense and more speed

pearl bane
pearl bane
#

I'm new to showdown, any tips on how you pick the right Pokémon?

pine peakBOT
#

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slow mica
#

OH

#

SHIT

#

oops

#

mb

#

also uh

#

to get into 1v1 teambuilding

#

i recommend making notes abt what a mon beats and what it doesnt

ruby sentinel
#

wsg nathan swordisbored how can i help u today

slow mica
#

💀

pearl bane
#

I just Google my opponents weaknesses

slow mica
#

so say i want to build around air balloon gholdengo

#

i check the vr or a personal vr

#

and i write what mons it loses to

pearl bane
#

Can you send the whole note

slow mica
#

i only have a few mons in there, i recommend u just check through the vr and see what a mon loses to

#

after that u simply pick 2 mons that cover up its weaknesses

pearl bane
#

Alright

slow mica
#

so with that gholdengo + chien pao example

pearl bane
#

Thanks

slow mica
#

with both of them u get this

#

and then u pick a 3rd

pearl bane
#

Damn

#

Alright

slow mica
#

hmu if u ever need help

#

rn im running iron valiant and gholdengo on many of my teams

#

ur pretty much guaranteed a good team if u build around a gholdengo set

#

very threatening on preview + easy to build with

slow mica
#

ye that one is solid

#

better after chi-yu ban too bc it was kinda weak to it

pearl bane
slow mica
#

sure

pearl bane
#

Btw do I need to make the ones that says 0 Atk IV?

slow mica
#

no u can just copy and paste the set comp

pearl bane
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...

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How..

slow mica
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not the set comp i mea the uh

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pokepaste

pearl bane
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Yeah how

slow mica
pearl bane
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Okay

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Thanks, this conversation tought me more than youtube

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I'll let you know how to goes

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Bye

slow mica
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ye dw u can just ask here whenever u need help with 1v1

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joining the 1v1 disc is also a good resource

pearl bane
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Alright

pearl bane
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I keep losing because idk what Pokémon to pick

slow mica
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To pick there are a lot of different styles on ladder and theres abt 3:
Picking 2-0
Picking around your bait
Picking around what you are 2-0ed by

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also ye

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iron valiant can

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use disable against choice mons

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encore some mons and then disable

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which forces them to use the move struggle

pearl bane
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Damn

slow mica
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baits r prob the easiest way to pick

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like uh

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u can have a team that looks 3-0ed by donphan