#Monotype Rates

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tepid warren
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if you feel like you are a victim to ice beam you could add articuno or change corviknight to specially defensive

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and then do physically defensive gliscor

waxen tapir
magic granite
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hey hey i don't have team yet i'm here to ask what would be the best mono insect team

gloomy vapor
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The sample bug is pretty good

lusty anvil
# magic granite hey hey i don't have team yet i'm here to ask what would be the best mono insect...

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-monotype-sample-teams-september-2025.3733750/post-9919700

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The purpose of this resource will be to provide teams that are easy to use and represent the type fairly well for newer players to learn the metagame with. These teams can also be...

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if you want to make a team on your own i suggest looking at samples, vr, and analyses to help

pure zinc
exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @gloomy vapor, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @frozen hornet, @glacial skiff, @limber basin, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @south copper. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

pure zinc
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i feel like its lacking somewhere but cant put my finger on it properly as im still learning

tepid warren
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proper link

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well your pokemon choice is mostly fine, palossand is very bad though

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your sets are not great

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you can find good sets here

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along with some explanations

frozen hornet
# tepid warren https://pokepast.es/466fd25cad0533a4

Going off this, if you want to abuse toxic spikes gengar your best hex alternative is a bulky gholdengo. you can add thunder wave for added status against flying types that are immune to it. Flutter Mane needs to be choice specs for a heavy special attacking power, unless you think you are bad against choice scarf Meowscarada which naturally threatens the type.

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^^^ which alternatively you can do choice scarf flutter mane. for Gholdengo you can use a damage reduction berry like Kasib or Colbur (depending on what you want to survive and fire off a thunder wave with).

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Dragapult if you want to run Dragon Dance I recommend Leftovers + Substitute

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However you need to be weary of Archaludon as it sits on this easily

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(Depending on if it has Draco Meteor)

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Palossand is not very good, as royal said previously. It gets insanely power crept and just doesn’t provide much.

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I recommend changing Sableye to Ceruledge and Palossand to Gholdengo

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Flutter mane should be Moon Blast, Shadow Ball, Thunderbolt, and I personally use Power Gem for the off chance you run into Articuno Flying (not used that much but it still is a good means of breaking Moltres + Articuno)

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Bramble I’d suggest Rapid Spin, Strength Sap, Spikes/Poltergeist, Power Whip.

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Hazards, especially with this team, are so fun to abuse.

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You don’t really need Stealth Rocks as the only spikes immune sturdy Pokémon you’ll deal with really just whittle down to Skarmory (you have Gholdengo).

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Hope this helps @pure zinc 👍🏻💕

waxen tapir
lusty anvil
waxen tapir
lusty anvil
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it just provides too much for the type. strong stab + colorful coverage, amazing speed, can bully fire bar ceruledge

waxen tapir
lusty anvil
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it is but on this build you most definitely want knock to effectively break steel better, especially gholdengo.

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you got double water comp that can bully ground, flying, etc.

waxen tapir
lusty anvil
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yeah just main set

waxen tapir
pure zinc
frozen hornet
waxen tapir
exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @gloomy vapor, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @frozen hornet, @glacial skiff, @limber basin, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @south copper. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

lusty anvil
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looks good / standard normal just with maus for last slot

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prob want g knot over trick on hisuian zoroark for water coverage (mainly doinking pert) as in my testing / watching others as well you never want to really let go of your specs as its too valuable to pass up

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as without it you really can't break / force progress in the long run

waxen tapir
graceful reef
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Didn't wanna use any legendaries, they fake birds

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lusty anvil
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thats just the beauty of flying types as a whole which keeps the type functioning

glacial skiff
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Even if you didn't exactly want to use the legendaries, Gliscor, Skarmory, and Dragonite are incredible in the utility they offer defensively and offensively to a flying team.

lusty anvil
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your essentially nerfing yourself and at that point i would just advise you to utilize another type as a whole

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i would however utilize gliscor and the double steel birds + d nite as peng said

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a core of gliscor / skarm / corv / d nite is already a solid option

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last 2 slots up to you

graceful reef
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Gonna need to rename the team 🧐

lusty anvil
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indeed

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start off with gliscor / corvi / d nite

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go from there

graceful reef
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I'ma keep the bird squad in my back pocket then, do an actual mono team

glacial skiff
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And I would do what boomp has said and probably go to another type. Water, Poison, and Bug can all get by without needing to use their Legendaries (Or well, legendary in the case of Poison/Bug since they've only got the one in terms of usable legendaries)

waxen tapir
graceful reef
waxen tapir
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I want to ask a question

glacial skiff
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I'm the closest thing.

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And sure, ask away.

waxen tapir
# glacial skiff I'm the closest thing.

in mono poison teams what are the good archetypes, in a lot of types some archetypes are simply impossible to do bc there is no mons for it, so in your experience what are at least the usable playstyles in poison? I wanna make a new team but not the same copy of the last one

glacial skiff
# waxen tapir in mono poison teams what are the good archetypes, in a lot of types some archet...

Generally Poison is trying to play balance/semi-stall. HO basically doesn't work at all, trust me, the people spamming Revavroom teams on ladder don't get very far. Full Stall is somewhat functional (It did see play during MWP) but is a bit more of an MU fish than normal Poison. You can also try for some bulky offense if thats more your thing (Generally you're opting for Runt on those comps as a Nasty Plot wall/wincon)

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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Yeah.

waxen tapir
# glacial skiff Yeah.

to be honest it has pech/weez and more so I'm not that surprised it can manage stalling

glacial skiff
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Like I have my own stall build https://pokepast.es/c5786e77debf5d39 But this basically was accepting that I just auto lose V Flying/Ground and was gonna make my MUs into Steel/Ghost a lot worse.

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But it got me suspect reqs back when Zamazenta was legal so it worked (for the time)

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If you're looking for a bit more of a recent stall poison, Wincon loaded a team in MWP: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9monotype-891060
It was built off mine as a base with changes (and frankly, I am not gonna be bothered to did through the onslaught of teams he keeps building to find the paste for this)

[Gen 9] Monotype: Wincon-Z vs. Masskeauuu - Replays - Pokémon Show...

Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Wincon-Z and Masskeauuu! Format: [Gen 9] Monotype; Date: Nov 30, 2025

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That man has sent so many oricorio Electric teams, I'm lost.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
waxen tapir
glacial skiff
glacial skiff
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Water is one of the most hazard abusable solely because its removers are worse Urshifu-R and worse Toxapex.

graceful reef
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I might need to think a little longer on this 🤔

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waxen tapir
graceful reef
waxen tapir
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I mean sure it might lessen the fire match up for your steel birds but a lot of them DO run sun setters

lusty anvil
graceful reef
lusty anvil
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!pokepaste

exotic geodeBOT
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This command has been removed. Please use !psteams or !shareteam.

lusty anvil
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damn gg

graceful reef
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🗿

lusty anvil
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on the website

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in the teambuilder

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if u scroll down on ur team itll show upload to pokepaste

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click it, copy link, paste

graceful reef
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Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 112 Atk / 80 Def / 64 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Knock Off
  • Protect
  • Earthquake
  • Stealth Rock

Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 156 SpD
Impish Nature

  • U-turn
  • Body Press
  • Iron Defense
  • Roost

Dragonite @ Life Orb
Ability: Multiscale
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 144 HP / 252 Atk / 60 SpD / 52 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Extreme Speed
  • Dragon Dance
  • Dragon Claw
  • Earthquake

Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 24 Atk / 232 Def
Impish Nature

  • Whirlwind
  • Roost
  • Iron Head
  • Curse

The Biggest Milk (Pelipper) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 HP / 32 Def / 128 SpA
Bold Nature

  • Hurricane
  • U-turn
  • Roost
  • Surf

Kilowattrel @ Choice Specs
Ability: Volt Absorb
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

  • Volt Switch
  • Hurricane
  • Thunder
  • Tera Blast
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Oh

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Well ain't that useful

lusty anvil
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nah the actual link

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not the team

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then just copy the link

graceful reef
exotic geodeBOT
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Hey @graceful reef, it looks like you're trying to share a gen9ou team, but I didn't find any raters for that format in this channel. Try posting in #1297721195604611163 instead.

lusty anvil
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ya

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like that

graceful reef
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Ah

lusty anvil
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dont worry about chatot

graceful reef
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Alr

lusty anvil
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its cuz u didnt format it in mono

graceful reef
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I definitely didn't, makes sense

lusty anvil
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for gliscor, d nite, peli

graceful reef
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That's a question a should've asked myself now that I think about it

lusty anvil
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ok so another crucial thing is we utilizing non boots items and have no defog on the team which overall Stealth Rocks as a whole just destroys us

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we also dont have a special wall to help combat vs special mons like greninja and friends

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first change i would make is making corviknight defog and making it fully special defense

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Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 12 Atk / 244 SpD
Careful Nature

  • Iron Head
  • U-turn
  • Defog
  • Roost
graceful reef
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I understand, bet

lusty anvil
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this is what can be utilized

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good compression in slow pivoting + hazard removal + a ice beam switch in which is really appreciated

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12 atk is to always ohko flutter mane with iron head

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and we also have skarmory on the team so we dont need corviknight as a physical or mix wall at all

graceful reef
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Ah

lusty anvil
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for skarmory, curse is cute but the mon is slow overall and its really only used with body press to help vs mamoswine, ting lu, bisharp

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and rn you have stealth rocks on gliscor so my change for skarmory would be Body Press + Iron defense over iron head + curse or you can do Body Press + Spikes to stregthen your team via hazard stacking

graceful reef
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Honestly didn't even know it had spikes

lusty anvil
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Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature

  • Body Press
  • Whirlwind
  • Spikes
  • Roost
graceful reef
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Yes

lusty anvil
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kk gliscor moves are fine, pretty standard / straight forward

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evs can be changed, and you said you dont know what the spread is for correct?

graceful reef
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Nope, wasn't sure what the speed was for

lusty anvil
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ok so the speed hits 242 which outspeeds honchcrow which is unused af here.

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instead we will going into 96 which reaches 250 and now we outspeed a deadly ass threat to our team: modest raging bolt

graceful reef
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Bet

lusty anvil
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We will also be making gliscor hp evs 244 for poison heal number

graceful reef
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Ok

lusty anvil
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Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 244 HP / 168 SpD / 96 Spe
Careful Nature

  • Earthquake
  • Knock Off
  • Protect
  • Stealth Rock
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for now we will make gliscor spD to also help a lil bit on swapping in against special attacks if corviknight becomes too weaken to swap in comfortably

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next is dnite

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moves fine we will just going max attack max speed on it adamant nature with boots to preserve multiscale

graceful reef
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Alr

lusty anvil
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lookin cool / strong

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lets move on next to pelipper + kilo synergy

graceful reef
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Got it

lusty anvil
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i like the idea + its funny to disrupt sand + sun, but overall i think pelipper is just a flop on flying builds unless ur going all out and utilizing like a rain style build which is also gimmicky.

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we need speed control and a way to help combat vs steel as kilowattrel cant handle it on its own

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good compression i see looks amazing here is flamigo

graceful reef
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🤔, I get it

lusty anvil
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lastly kilo, we can keep it: good speed, hits hard, helps with mirror but will be changing thunder to t bolt for consistency and weather ball to u turn just so we are not walled by like treads when we are trying to pivot around

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looks fun to use i would now just test it out on ladder / room tours to see how it goes

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hope u enjoy it and like always happy gaming!

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tweak to ur liking ofc

graceful reef
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Alr, are there any Terra types I should consider btw

lusty anvil
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well if ur playing monotype format

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tera is banned

graceful reef
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Ah

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Aight thanks, appreciate the help

lusty anvil
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np!!!

hexed schooner
# graceful reef I might need to think a little longer on this 🤔

it looks like pre DLC rain flying team a little bit
Gliscor will stall your rain turns so it's not really optimal, i'd suggest more to look at Landorus (therian or incarnate). You have very good rain abusers in flying such as Tornadus-T, Iron Jugulis, Landorus-i, Zapdos, Kilowattrel, and even Thundurus-T. Gyarados and special Dragonite are not too far neither. Pelipper is your defensive wall while Corviknight is your special one and pseudo Flutter Mane check. Flying is a type that loses in builder some MUs and rain isn't the best archetype but it doesn't matter let's go for it !
If you want to keep Kilowattrel, you'll be struggling against ground types especially playing around sand since your mon will be totally useless and against Swampert that you can't really touch enough. Tornadus-T learns grass knot and could be a good combo with nasty plot, focus blast and bleakwind/hurricane. Dragonite being a pseudo check to elementary types and has access to a priority. I've choosed scarf lando-t with sr since you need some physical hitters and some kind of speed.
https://pokepast.es/ef0acc897bbd3a15 this could be another option but to be honest i'm not crazy about kilowattrel

exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @gloomy vapor, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @frozen hornet, @glacial skiff, @limber basin, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @south copper. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

hexed schooner
buoyant hinge
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should i use braviary defog or maushold tidy up 🤔

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maushold can sweep a little with population bomb and braviary is technically better than staraptor which i was using so im thinking that as a replacement

lusty anvil
graceful reef
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Where does decent elo start for monotype? Just hit 1200 pretty easily with the team you helped me build

lusty anvil
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if ur just starting off mono, hitting 1200 is good for a start. decent elo is pretty subjective

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for just starting off 1200-1400 elo is decent start

graceful reef
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Alr

lusty anvil
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1500 and above is when ur get more competent players

lusty anvil
graceful reef
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Aight, I'll see if I can at least hit 1400 by like the end of the week probably, I don't play often

lusty anvil
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glll

hallow cairn
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Does anyone have a good team idea for lunala with ghost pokemon

ocean cipher
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https://pokepast.es/f1c5d514c443aeb9
yo if anyone would be able to help me sort out my team out a bit. I’m having issues mainly with hazard teams (go figure no spinner/defog) I’m wondering who I should I replace for mandibuzz since they seem to be the definitive hazard remover in the format. I originally had on muk Alolan instead of grimmsnarl but I’m not sure if that choice was best. And if there is any more advice I can get would be great for a tournament up coming :)

exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @gloomy vapor, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @frozen hornet, @glacial skiff, @limber basin, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @south copper. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

south copper
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Yooooo

ocean cipher
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Yo o7

south copper
# hallow cairn Does anyone have a good team idea for lunala with ghost pokemon

Lunala is banned in sv monotype, perhaps monotype Ubers is a nice tier to feature thiss in whereas its usable https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/monotype-ubers.3740960/

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Ubers - Monotype Ubers

:koraidon:MONOTYPE UBERS:miraidon:

Welcome to SV's iteration of Monotype Ubers! This is the Monotype format where the majority of things banned in SV Monotype are now legal to use and play! DLC2 finally made this format a possibility due to the return of many legendary Pokemon such as the...

south copper
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So id definitely remove the grimmsnarl and save that for a different team style

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I also think Alolan muk is a nice Pokemon but then sab likely gets dropped or maybe mandibuzz but there goes ur momentum

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Which is fine too but I think each of these play styles (grimmsnarl as a min individually needs very direct abusers to really make sure out of screens if it’s not anyting setting up + having a proper wallbreaker/ stallbreaker (win condition vs stall water and maybe pressure stall gliscor flying)

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Darkrai would probably profit a lot more on the screens compositions most definitely high speed plot

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But my grimm comps are a little ugly kek

ocean cipher
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So then I should take off the Grimm but in your opinion if mandibuzz ruins the moment of my team what should I put on to keep the rush going?

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Oh you said so already galarian moltres

waxen tapir
hallow cairn
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we wanted to do some pokemon battles and we decided to choose monotype, she went flying I am ghost

mortal garnet
lusty anvil
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was a very over centralized mon for both ice and psychic teams. it really just setup behind screens and was able to sweep games with ease. little counterplay + great support on both types

hallow cairn
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So can anyone give me advise on how to make a mono ghost team with Lunala

mortal garnet
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lunala is banned from SV monotype

buoyant hinge
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i need more ideas to counter mono fairy as mono normal

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mono normal has no coverage for mono fairy sadly 🥲

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and most of mono normal is physical and fairys are so bulky

glacial skiff
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Fairy isn't that physically bulky.

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The type also lacks a reliable ground switch in so fast guts ursaluna is fairly difficult for anything to come in on, even with screens up.

hexed schooner
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Generally trick room with Ursaluna and psychic terrain is a hard stop to fairy

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Ditto has also good moments against Belly Drum Azumarill, Flutter Mane, Swords Dance Valiant

waxen tapir
exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @gloomy vapor, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @frozen hornet, @glacial skiff, @limber basin, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @south copper. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

coral frigate
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I'd rather use scarf on the Indeedee for some good Psychic damage

waxen tapir
south copper
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I even had to do play rough luna on some comps because sableye coming in was OD dark just clicks knock so although clicking trick room is a thing accepting knock off one dimensionally is a lot of progress they can make pretty easily vs you as compared to u hoping luna isn’t worn down in a awkward positioning

hexed schooner
# waxen tapir https://pokepast.es/de742e55df85d946 the single wonkiest team to ever exist

Ditto doesn't fit in a trick room team where you want to benefit the most from it and Ditto is doing the opposite. To counter ground moves and have a chance against fighting, you can use choice scarf Staraptor. Also you need a Zoroark-H instead of Meloetta which can be good but doesn't serve the team. If you're playing Trick Room you have to commit to it so using a Brave Nature Ursaluna or at worst an adamant without speed invest.
This a team you can see on mid to top ladder https://pokepast.es/09c912bb29f90df0 for example. Some options can change like 4th move on Terapagos between Ice Beam and Flamethrower.
Normal generally doesn't have a lot of place to innovate so Meloetta while being very good struggle to find a niche. If you want to use, it's either with Relic Song to help vs Dark type or either with an Assault Vest

odd granite
mortal garnet
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or just replace it with Torkoal since your team gets destroyed by stealth rocks and koal has rapid spin

odd granite
mortal garnet
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and use it over ninetails cuz rapid spin in me opinion

odd granite
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👍

hexed schooner
# odd granite https://psim.us/t/1499580-gp96k67acx9dk641oxr2

Put heavy duty boots on Volcarona. Play the "bulkyrona" set with QD, Fire move, Morning sun 172HP / 252 Def / 84 Spe (so you outspeed Dragapult at +1) Last move can be either will o wisp or substitute
Heavy slam > flash cannon (0- Atk Heatran Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Flutter Mane: 342-404 (136.2 - 160.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO). Taunt can become also Stealth Rock or Will O Wisp. You also need some HP and SpDef invests to take choice specs shadow ball and power gem
Play Cinderace over Volcanion with court change sucker punch pyro ball and low kick. While Volcanion helps vs water, it doesn't benefit from the sun. Cinderace helps bringing speed and can more or less manage hazards on field.
Ninetales over Torkoal so you can bring back to life your sweepers with Healing wish.

Also on a side note, Ogerpon-H can enjoy trailblaze instead of substitute to help the water mu (outside of rain)

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If you wanna keep Torkoal you could make Cinderace a choice user with band or scarf

south copper
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I think meloetta individually is nice and has a nice nice movepool notably focus and vs like dragon or just general utility thanks to knock . I think it can put in a lot of work in positioning but I think dual psychics often overlap

odd granite
hexed schooner
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No. See what I said about Volcarona, basically you're twice weak to stealth rock so you can't afford to have another item than heavy duty boots. You have 2 stealth rock setters. Only 1 is enough especially since you're super weak to it. Calm nature is enough on heatran. If you're going for Torkoal, you dont' need court change on cinderace so you can play zen headbutt for toxapex for example, gunk shot for fairies (even if not sure it's that important), uturn

odd granite
lusty anvil
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ya

odd granite
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👍

exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @gloomy vapor, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @frozen hornet, @glacial skiff, @limber basin, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @south copper. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

lusty anvil
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and to what you link b4 you removed it yeah thats better

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play around with band / scarf cinderace

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to see what you prefer

odd granite
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i meant to put calm nature on heatren mb

lusty anvil
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oh no ur fine

hexed schooner
lusty anvil
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Never said calm was bad

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I’m saying they are fine cuz they saying my bad

hexed schooner
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English ^^"

lusty anvil
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What

odd granite
exotic geodeBOT
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New [Gen 9] Monotype RMT @gloomy vapor, @pulsar harbor, @quasi rock, @frozen hornet, @glacial skiff, @limber basin, @stable zinc, @tepid warren, @lusty anvil, @south copper. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

south copper
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Def still want rocks somewhere likely

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Moon set is kinda meh and not really achieving much typically this is a nice scarf at times and it has iron head

odd granite
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💔

lusty anvil
odd granite
lusty anvil
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Sd garchomp and dd roaring moon is like achieving the same job as a setup sweeper u can remove one for hoodra

odd granite
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k what build should i use?

lusty anvil
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Standard hoodra set on smogdex

odd granite
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👍

lusty anvil
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In a game rq I’ll get more in depth afterwards to help more

odd granite
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k thx

lusty anvil
# odd granite https://psim.us/t/1475964

ok off of what i said about hoodra, this type of build your going for setup spam + control type of dragon which overall gets worn down / beaten in the metagame, these mons right here cant really benefit off of ho style with out screens (if you go that route which is very gimmicky) and another crucial mon in latias + healing wish support is missing, this struggles against top types, especially flying and steel but dont worry we can make some changes to give you a better time in the metagame

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i would right off the back just make dragapult a specs set here since we are lacking in special wallbreaking + breaking steel cores consistently and open up a slot on archaludon to slot in Stealth Rocks

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Foul Play is cool / cute to punish ceruledge and like scizor but overall you have moon that stops ceruledge and if its CC then its basically gg already,

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latias can compress nicely in speed control + healing wish for bolt or dd roaring moon

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Hoodra can be over garchomp and you can really mess around with the roaring moon set if dd is not cutting it

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arch / hoodra / specs pult / scarf latias / moon / bolt

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IF you want to do a setup spam type of build. change the pult set to screens set and add in scarf h wish latias over cm latios instead but again as i said, just really gimmicky / inconsistent

odd granite
lusty anvil
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Copy the smogdex set for specs pult

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If taunt moon not really doing much, add in iron head

odd granite
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👍

odd granite
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is draco meter,shadow ball. flamerthrower, and U turn a good specs pult set?

lusty anvil
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Yeah but u prob want t bolt for last to consistently pressure toxapex well

odd granite
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south copper
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Mama kiru has been summoned oh Jesus

tepid warren
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azumarill isn't great on water / rain, you might want something that can take advantage of rain faster

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maybe an urshifu would be nice

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and you can also change black sludge to eject button if you like

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i built this team for a tournament, they're pretty simimlar so feel free to copy my homework

odd granite
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👍 thx

waxen tapir
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hey people I have a question is there a monotype ubers format? and if so is there some raters here for it?

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It’s an othermetagame we have in monotype yes. You can check this thread https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/monotype-ubers.3740960/

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hexed schooner
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You can always send your team.

waxen tapir
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glacial skiff
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Empo also isn't that good on Steel. If you're looking for a water resist your generally better off with Ferro.
If we're running it cause we don't like hazards, I would probably drop Spikes on Skarm and run them on Ferro instead still.

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You still don't really need HP Rock, Lava Plume is generally going to be doing enough against most flyers. But fair enough.

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Meanwhile maybe someone else who plays SM can tell me if I'm wrong, but Fire isn't a particularly good type so much of the time the lone Fire either can reliably break tran or not.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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Fair enough, I still think Ferro would be better though.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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Mainly just 9.
I watch a lot of them for TNs + play a couple of them sometimes (SM + ORAS mainly) but wasn't around while they were current nor will be playing them in major tours (notably not playing in the cups)

hexed schooner
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Lando can become an issue quickly for your team.
Im more curious about the lack of ferrothorn that helps a lot of MUs except fire which heatran prevents partially and Exca threaten offensively. Also hp rock does less damages to volcarona after boosts than a physical move

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You re gonna have some tough time rapid spinning too but that's a general steel issue imo

hexed schooner
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28- Atk Heatran Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 348-412 (111.8 - 132.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 SpA Heatran Hidden Power Rock vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Volcarona: 208-248 (66.8 - 79.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
And it's without boosts. Now with 1 quiver dance
0 SpA Heatran Hidden Power Rock vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Volcarona: 140-168 (45 - 54%) -- 39.8% chance to 2HKO

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quasi veldt
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Is this Ice monotype any good? I think Froslass is the worst optimized one but I'm not sure

glacial skiff
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While most of the mons are fine, their movesets are just off.

tepid warren
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ice monotype isn't that great at all to be honest

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but yeah what he said

glacial skiff
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You want Encore > CM in Tales, Spikes > Shard on Lass. Bulkier Mamo with Rocks, Lugg with Sturdy (gives you at least a guarteed spin) and generally Beam > Focus Blast on Kyurem.

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Also I'm not a big fan of Cloyster on Ice. I think Weavile or Cetitan are generally better due to their superior speed (at least while snow is up for Cetitan)

quasi veldt
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I've never tried Weavile so far

quasi veldt
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Calm mind wasn't getting used much, that's true

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Which Mamo move should get replaced? Trailblaze?

glacial skiff
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Both trailblaze and Iron Head need to go.

quasi veldt
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So Rock and... Hmm

glacial skiff
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Mamo is usually this one Ice:
Mamoswine @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
Level: 5
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 208 HP / 220 Atk / 64 Def / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Earthquake
  • Ice Shard
  • Smack Down
  • Stealth Rock
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Smack better threatens Flyers like Skarm and Corv (allowing you to EQ them) along with greatly crippling Articuno, Moltres, and Volcarona.

quasi veldt
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Knock off should be obsolete if I exchange Cloyster for Weavile, right?

glacial skiff
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Yeah.

quasi veldt
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For Weavile, is
Knock off, Fake out, Swords dance and Poison Jab good?

glacial skiff
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Nope.

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You want Knock, Ice Shard, Taxel generally.

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With Low Kick > Taxel sometimes (better Heatran and Archa MU)

quasi veldt
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Maybe having another way of damagin Archa would be good

glacial skiff
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Archa is terrified for Kyurem.

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And is only really able to switch in on Lugg.

quasi veldt
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Earth power can deal with it ig

glacial skiff
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Steel I'm not sure how to beat, but Dragon you wanna layer up with Lass early then just pressure hard.

quasi veldt
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Steel has been the hardest matchup honestly

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Alright, thanks a lot!

glacial skiff
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No problem.

hexed schooner
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Also something that hasnt been said is freeze dry on ninetales over blizzard deals way less damages but helps vs water mons much more that can otherwise play around you since ninetales outspeed most of them naturally (except greninja, barraskewda and ogerpon)

hexed schooner
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Also I don't mind Cloyster which is your only viable way of dealing with steel tho liquidation deals same damages to scizor without risks of missing so it's more for skarmory.
I'd change Froslass which outside of fighting MU with Mach Punch is relatively bad for Weavile which cover more with a choice scarf so you can have Low Kick and Triple Axel/Ice Spinner.
Avalugg niche is to be physically bulky so you should invest in this stat instead of Special Defense. Another option is to play Avalanche or Earthquake over Iron Defense to hit Ghost types but you can have a harder time against Scizor.

@glacial skiff you recommended lvl 5 Mamoswine, be careful !

glacial skiff
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Lmao.

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I was in the LC builder at the time.

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was wondering if in monotype water doubles gastrodon stormdrain + floatzel surf is a valid strategy?

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its paldea pokemon only and no legendaries/paradox so im lowk at a loss since i cant use my normal pokemon and im new to comp (its a friendly pokemon battle)

south copper
# waxen tapir https://pokepast.es/245b1e48642ea635

Manaphy feels like more of a screens benficiary but I don’t think you likely need rain dance on this set typically in this tier you need situational awareness and counters to other types zs. For water without a fairy type you’re relying on pretty much just z haze pex but here ur manaphy likely needs to be evd for +1 kommo of some nature ; that being said having either z haze pex or fairy type gives nice utility -

I believe defensive pex is usually preferred a bit more for a potentially more realistic fairy matchup also and u don’t necessarily “need z” but if you do I believe you should have like an aggressive fast Mon like ice z greninja even I saw someone use rock slide variants too and that hits kyurem-b but icenium z from green isn’t the worst either

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Keldeo is also a great Pokemon to consider you want to also think about ferrotborn and th aspect of rain and their leech seed turns can be more consistent over you just trying to fish scald burns to cripple a ferrotborn celes core but it’s still an option but I think keldeo or a similar route is nice to consider

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Post in thread 'SM Monotype' https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sm-monotype.3685270/post-9119337 I would check out this post specifically do CRTL+F and search for swampert mega specific variants courtesy of a good sm player (mushamu) @waxen tapir but I think ur on the right track

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Typically pelipper still considers fly stab and or compressing defog it seems too

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south copper
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Oh for pex it’s for bulu it’s just maybe make it mixed even wacan berry was used too for koko too but hey I think it’s pretty evil vs fairy (wacan)

waxen tapir
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and to be fair I understand what you mean, I don't have something for ferro really

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lusty anvil
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ghost ping

glacial skiff
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Boomp, I don't see the ghost team.

lusty anvil
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Yeah it gone

glacial skiff
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Damn, this zoro buff is so good it can hide teams.

frozen hornet
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oop

south copper
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tepid warren
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Yeah no notes really team looks fine

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You could change ogerpon to something else like urshifu if you want

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Just to immediately take advantage of rain

glacial skiff
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I've got a few.
Pex generally prefers PJab > Sludge Bomb as it is better at donking Hatt and Prima.
Psychic Fangs is generally better than PJab as Kingdra can nuke Oger-W with Draco and most other major Water resists/Immunities are also Poison themselves (Pex, Moong, Clodsire) (Anything else left is really just Dragon so just leave them up to Kingdra or slam em with CC.)
I've started to fall off Oger as a breaker on rain. I generally think SD Samu-H is a better guy overall since Spikes are good at wearing down the problematic Resists consistently + a Dark/Ghost resist is super nice to have.
Also Pert can go max in SpD since you don't need the 24 attack for the Excadrill MU as much (rain guys can slam it)

vivid gate
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Yeah I agree

tepid warren
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I think mirror coat is kinda eh on Swampert

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Don’t think anything is staying in to use a special move really

vivid gate
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Spikes is good because kingdra NEVER kill water pon on a full health

vivid gate
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But still knock off is better here now

glacial skiff
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I'm going to guess this is for national dex monotype.
Please use a Pokepaste so we can help you with EVs and items as well as right now I can only make guesses on what each mon's item is.

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Also #1060037469472555028 is where you would get raters for a national dex mono team.

opal pike
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Any tips I feel like my team is really strong offensively but lack defensive options and be stalled very easily

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lusty anvil
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I would personally suggest looking at the sample teams to get a feel for what u need

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I also would look at the monotype set compendium to help as well

raw wadi
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https://pokepast.es/2140be6c599cdcc3
was using this a little bit for some ladder acheivements which is why it's fully UU

feels decent into most mus, even fairy is alright with the AV muk.

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had a standard SD bisharp before but i dropped it for krook

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but now i feel like i might need to change kix to SD

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i also just fixed the 8 missing evs from sable idk where those went

hexed schooner
# raw wadi https://pokepast.es/2140be6c599cdcc3 was using this a little bit for some ladder...

You should change krook for tinglu offering you more hazards that you can use to pressure with knock off users and giving another special tank
Muka could be rest talk stick more to this philosophy and you could potentially drop defog on mandi for toxic
While Lokix is very good against offense, another option to play around hazards could be Samurott-h or you play with water move > ceaseless edge to have a better Gliscor MU + sacred sword for Archaludon + priority
I also think you kinda need some spammable move on Hydreigon and would play dark pulse > draco meteor to help vs steel water flying

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Since your team is a bit weak to Azumarill, i d play 16evs in speed on Mandibuzz to be sure to do damages before play rough

raw wadi
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i totally would have ting-lu and samu but i'm farming noobs for the divergence badge

lusty anvil
raw wadi
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improvements for divergence

lusty anvil
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then the team a whole lot of changes as you got it mixed up with slotting "uu" mons rather than understanding mono UU

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u have banned mons on there

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alolan muk and sableye

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which is banned in mono uu

lusty anvil
# raw wadi https://pokepast.es/2140be6c599cdcc3 was using this a little bit for some ladder...

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/monotype-uu.3739420/ this is mono uu

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not looking at the teambuilder and the mons labled: "UU"

raw wadi
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oh shit word

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i swear i checked that google sheet and i was good

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maybe i didn't look hard enough

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thanks

lusty anvil
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as a new shift will be happening on april take a look at the banned mons first

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oh lol nah all good

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you can prob do like

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spd incineroar as a alolan muk replacement

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hold on lemme get mi food and we can do something with this

raw wadi
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gonna start running av incin like a boss and pray that mandibuzz can remove well enough

lusty anvil
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but overall your best bet on the divergence badge is like utilizing normal which only lost the turtle and like water since it still has strong tools overall

hexed schooner
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Hdb > av inci imo

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Parting shot, koff, flare blitz, wow/dpunch

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Ive done it with dark but hoopa u was there so it helps to consolidate stuffs. Stall/fat waters are really doable, flying more leaning into offense is doable too

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Ive tried normal but ladder was spamming fighting and i was lazy to hard calc at 1100 ladder

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glacial skiff
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Okay, I'm not the most experienced when it comes to Gen 5 Monotype but I think I know enough.
Right now a lot of the team is mostly here, but the sets are a bit off along with Rotom-W not being all that great.

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  • Pert really wants to be much bulkier than this and doesn't give a crap about Hidden Power at all preferring a utility option like Roar.
  • Starmie wants for Psychic to help deal with all the Fighting-types in the tier generally is also Life Orb or Spes. If you want a Spinner Tentacruel is going to serve better off its bulk + high recovery (along with helping to threaten Grasses)
  • Politoed doesn't care about being bulkier as bulky is generally used on Pert, Tentacruel and Empoleon with it generally being the scarfer of the team.
  • Keldeo likes CM to be a generally superior win condition and to really bully types like Steel and Ground
slate tangle
glacial skiff
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Yup.

slate tangle
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Thank you for the tips! What's an EV spread you'd recommend for swampert?

glacial skiff
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I would probably go with the sample spread which is this:
252 HP / 4 Atk / 220 Def / 32 SpD
Relaxed Nature

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I don't know what it does personally, not BW enjoyer.

slate tangle
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Cool thanks :)

glacial skiff
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No problem.

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gloomy vapor
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Choice scarf might be better on lele instead and making Tini band makes breaking stuff like steel easier

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Otherwise looks pretty solid to me

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I’m no Gen 8 expert but dabble a bit

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lusty anvil
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the lack of a mamo / gravity lando / no surf on quagsire hurts your mus in steel / flying and to an extent dragon / ground mirror

toxic shard
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thats fair, ill check mamoswine later

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surf on quagsire tho? what for

lusty anvil
# toxic shard thats fair, ill check mamoswine later

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/monotype-sets-compendium.3731002/ you can look at the set comps to see whats normally utilize for

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or some different sets

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than the standard ones on smogdex

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ground has a paste to show different variety

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toxic shard
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nice nice, thanks

lusty anvil
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you can paste updated changes afterwards or if you want like two varients of the team that can work as well

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normally clodsire likes to do:

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Clodsire @ Black Sludge / Eject Button
Ability: Water Absorb
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SpD
Careful Nature

  • Earthquake
  • Haze / Toxic Spikes / Toxic / Spikes
  • Poison Jab
  • Recover
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which helps deal with non band flower trick from meowscarada

toxic shard
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ooo sure

lusty anvil
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problem is now meowscarada is utilize triple axel which overall is hell regardless for all ground teams

toxic shard
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yeah that'll really be a problem

lusty anvil
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treads can act as another special wall + spinner

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so we can

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do:
Iron Treads @ Leftovers
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 244 HP / 216 SpD / 48 Spe
Careful Nature

  • Heavy Slam / Stealth Rock
  • Earthquake
  • Knock Off / Protect
  • Rapid Spin
toxic shard
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forgot heavy slam was a thing lol, ill consider this stuff when i get home

lusty anvil
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you can keep protect if u want but normally when utilizing hazard stack comp its always nice to have a knock off utilizer to deal with boots

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also nice to knock lefties from archaludon and helm from skarmory

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slam is nice for flutter mane while iron head helps u deal with mamo and kyurem better

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for gliscor i would just abuse subtoxic with protect and eq over knock off and spikes

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however, as there are teams that utilize gliscor and lado together i woldnt recommend stacking up the beam weakness and would change gliscor to mamoswine

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would change nasty plot to gravity on lando-i. pretty straightforward, helps alot when battling steel + with ur current set; this now allows u to not be completely walled by air balloon gholdengo.

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the pons are a pain in the ass, gren and meow are as well. i wwould utilitze scarf great tusk over garchomp

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Great Tusk @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Close Combat
  • Headlong Rush
  • Ice Spinner
  • Megahorn
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lastly i would just change the quagsire evs max hp max def impish nature

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if setup quagsire not really working for u or is incosistent / lacking i would remove curse for more utility

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toxic, hazards, etc.

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depending what ur team needs

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hope this helps!

hexed schooner
# toxic shard i wanna run both sires for gen 9 monotype (ground) but i dunno if thisll make it...

Hey this looks like a semi stall ground !
You want some def invest (160) and full hp on your Clodsire to live 2 flower trick from meowscarada which otherwise destroy you. Also you hit way better on physical side. You can play poison jab, recover, toxic/toxic spikes, earthquake/low kick
You would prefer modest scarf landorus here to be able to beat ogerpon which 6-0 and drop Garchomp for either Assault vest Mamo / eviolite Piloswine or Ting-lu (imo slightly better option if you re going into stack hazard).
Gliscor is a really good Swords Dance user here with protect, knock off and facade (or earthquake if you think you lack some ground) with 244evs in hp, full spdef.
Quagsire is a good anti setup and kinda wants recover and toxic but cant setup here cause nothing will stay against it and it takes a lot of damages. With sr or spikes as 3rd move you're more comfy. Offensive move can be liquidation/ice punch/whirlpool realistically.
Your treads is good !
Defensive TingLu will help a lot Quag which isnt that bulky and can take ghost moves + whirlwind/ruination/rest/sleeptalk/heavyslam/payback(useful cause you re slow)

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https://pokepast.es/8e901b5085936d36 this is my team. Choice Band Dragonite does more than 50% to Quagsire that's why in emergency case i prefer to have ice punch but i keep alternating with Whirlpool for more cancer with Toxic. Thanks to RH, you can kill TA scarf Meowscarada and if it's band well, hope that between hazards and scarf Lando you're gonna get it
I'm playing naive on Landorus for Volcarona.
Low kick on Clod is for balloon Heatran

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toxic shard
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i see, ill try to mix it up with what ive got so far on my mono ground thanks

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Hiii, thisis probably a bit of a weird one but me and my friends play a custom monotype with Nat dex 9 bans and any gen mon allowed 😄 is there any chance someone can help me with my flying mono. I tend to lose quite badly to greninjas and other strong ice beam mons. Landorus-Therian @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 232 Atk / 68 SpD / 208 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Earthquake
  • Stone Edge
  • U-turn
  • Explosion

Dragonite @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Multiscale
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Dragon Dance
  • Dragon Claw
  • Ice Punch
  • Earthquake

Mandibuzz (F) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Overcoat
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def
Careful Nature

  • Foul Play
  • Roost
  • U-turn
  • Defog

Charizard-Mega-Y @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Drought
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Flamethrower
  • Focus Blast
  • Solar Beam
  • Roost

Gyarados @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Moxie
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Dragon Dance
  • Waterfall
  • Bounce
  • Earthquake

Zapdos @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Static
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Volt Switch
  • Thunder Wave
  • Heat Wave
  • Roost
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glacial skiff
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This team has some issues.

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Alot of the mons here are good for a flying core, except staraptor, but their sets are not very valuable.

faint jasper
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tbh i took the mons i like but how can i improve it

glacial skiff
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Ideally.
Gliscor would much prefer to run a Bulkier spread, even if it wants to lean offensive.
Dragonite either wants to be Choice Banded or running HDB.
Skarmory wants to lean entirelly into physical bulk.
Running Corv > Staraptor gives you a special wall that can actually switch in on Ice Beams and provide Defog support + pivoting.
Gyarados here would likely have to play bulky.
And Enamorus would be the Scarfer.

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sorry im kinda new to comp wdym hdb

glacial skiff
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Heavy Duty Boots.

faint jasper
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oh ok and about the gliscor should i change the moves or stats

glacial skiff
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Both.

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Right now, I'm thinking the standard spread:
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 244 HP / 204 SpD / 60 Spe
Careful Nature

  • Stealth Rock
  • Toxic
  • Earthquake
  • Protect
faint jasper
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im thinking about keeping toxic spikes because my scarmory have stealth rock

glacial skiff
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Skarmory generally prefers Spikes as Hazard stacking with both can easily weardown several types.

gloomy vapor
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Toxic spikes will have several useless matchups btw too

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The most obvious being the flying mirror

glacial skiff
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TSpikes in my opinion aren't great in the current monotype metagame as a lot of types either run a Poison or don't give enough of a crap about them to really worry.

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3 types by default don't care.
Fly, Poison, and Steel.

faint jasper
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yea i see that

glacial skiff
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With Skarmory, you would want to lean full physical defense and run Spikes > Stealth Rock. But other than that, the Skarmory is good.

faint jasper
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yea i changed that

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what should i put on Corviknight

gloomy vapor
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Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 12 Atk / 244 SpD
Careful Nature

  • Iron Head
  • U-turn
  • Defog
  • Roost
glacial skiff
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Yeah, that.

faint jasper
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tbh for first time trying to make monotype build that is not ghoul i think i did well

gloomy vapor
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Cheers

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Hope you keep getting better

glacial skiff
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Enamorus is also an easy fix. Run Scarf for the held item and Healing Wish > Mystical Fire.

faint jasper
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that was my old team i tried to build

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very old

glacial skiff
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Doesn't look great, but we all started out with not great teams.
I was running a Darkless Poison back when I started out to, bad results.

gloomy vapor
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My dark team couldn’t break corv

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My first build

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💀

faint jasper
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wait i have another 1

glacial skiff
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Anyway, back to the flying.
With Gyarados, you'll generally want this as your build:
Gyarados @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 236 Def / 24 Spe
Impish Nature

  • Waterfall
  • Dragon Tail
  • Thunder Wave
  • Rest
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With DNite, I'm not sure between DDance or Choice Banded here. Both have immense advantages other the other.

faint jasper
gloomy vapor
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Your rain matchup improves by 1000 percent as well

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So those are crucial suggestions peng gave you

glacial skiff
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I think Choice Banded might be better here, but DDance is good as well and is a bit more customisable.

gloomy vapor
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I agree band being better here

glacial skiff
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If you go Choice Band, I would run the standard:
Dragonite @ Choice Band
Ability: Multiscale
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Extreme Speed
  • Outrage
  • Earthquake
  • Fire Punch
gloomy vapor
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Do you think
Thunder punch would be better or no

glacial skiff
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Probably not.

gloomy vapor
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Alright bet

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faint jasper
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peak

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but are you sure about the band?

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why not life orb

gloomy vapor
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Yeah it’s one of the best sets

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Band allows it to actually use its ability before being hit

glacial skiff
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Band also does more damage.

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DNites typing also allows it to come in on some threats a bit safely, notably Fire-types and just start ripping away with its power.

faint jasper
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i wanted to use altaria

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before

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sadly not good in vgc

glacial skiff
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Sadly not good period.
Altaria is kinda buns without its mega.

faint jasper
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i mean i can mega it

glacial skiff
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Forgot to copy the EVs over and run Fire Punch > DDance on DNite and you should be good to go.

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Also Super Power > Focus Blast on Enamorus. Super Power is just more reliable with Contrary than Focus Blast.

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It is a beat weaker starting out, but you'll generally only need it in endgame situations to snowball or to pick off foes such as Hisuian Goodra or Air Balloon Heatran.

hexed schooner
# faint jasper https://pokepast.es/915cf48724057709 thats the final team

Skarmory wants to be sturdy with roost over protect with bold nature to maximise your Defense stat
You want Iron Head over Brave bird on Corviknight
Gliscor wants 244HP and be specially defensive with enough speed to outspeed modest raging bolt (reaching 250 speed) and leftovers in Special Defense with + Special Defense -Special Attack nature
I think Gyara + Dnite isn't very productive. I'd change Dragonite for Moltres-Galar OR Gyarados for Articuno / AV Tornadus-T
Your Dragonite wants heavy duty boots if you're going for dragon dance and thunder punch (for Primarina and water) if you're going for choice band.
Your Gyarados wants to be full HP, with a lot of Defense and Impish nature.
Superpower > Focus Blast on Enamorus with Naive nature is by far more reliable

Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature

  • Body Press
  • Spikes
  • Whirlwind
  • Roost

Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 12 Atk / 244 SpD
Careful Nature

  • Iron Head
  • U-turn
  • Defog
  • Roost

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 244 HP / 168 SpD / 96 Spe
Careful Nature

  • Stealth Rock
  • Knock Off / Toxic
  • Earthquake
  • Protect

Gyarados @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 236 Def / 24 Spe
Impish Nature

  • Waterfall
  • Dragon Tail
  • Thunder Wave
  • Rest

Moltres-Galar @ Heavy-Duty Boots / Sitrus Berry / Lum Berry
Ability: Berserk
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

  • Nasty Plot
  • Fiery Wrath
  • Hurricane / Air Slash
  • Agility
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Okay, so I'm going to take a gander this is screens offense.

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If so, its a bit lacking. You would probably want just Banded Rilla just for the immense breaking that provides, still have a scarf Meow > zarude, and Victory Dance Hilligant > one of the special setup guys since they're a bit too slow.

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Hello! Me and my friends are doing a tournament monotype with a draft. (There can't be the same poke in any of the 18 teams... One team per type). We decided to have 9 Pokemons and choose 4 of them to play vs our rival. We will be playing singles and doubles! I was planning to use the Bug Type. This is some of the Pokes I have! Can someone help me with my team? https://teams.pokemonshowdown.com/view/1637649-00mrtvaa8k20ds7wuwkv

I know this format is pretty weird! They also told me bug is not the best type but I wanna do my best! Thank you so much for the help!
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Its screens fire.
No Heatran is a major yikes solely since you've got no real way to actually combat Flutter as specs Pgem just cleans through your team with little resistance.
Also as much as I'm a fan of Iron Moth, Its not generally great on Fire and Sub Variants espessically aren't going to get the job done.

waxen tapir
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so make heatren in the place of moth?

glacial skiff
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Yeah.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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Defensive Fire.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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Yeah.

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https://pokepast.es/38b761a4cb761de8 I've been trying this team out and I've had some hits and misses and would appreciate any tips on things I could tweak to the team. I am pretty new to competitive so I would also love explanations as to why you would change/tweak something

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Okay, so going in, this is a decent start in some aspects but its missing a lot in terms of what makes Dragon super good in the current metagame.

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Garchomp for exmaple is close to be excellent, but its lacking Scale Shot, Stone Edge/Fire Fang and Loaded Dice to make it a truly devasting breaker for Dragon.

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To keep it quick.
Pult, Chomp, and Hoodra can 100% stay but need set changes.
Dragonite could possibly stay.
Dragagle and Haxorus need to go.

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Haxorus just isn't a good breaker only having super niche matchup applications that are generally done better by others (its a stall breaker but Kyurem and Raging bolt break Stall water a lot harder) while lacking general versatility.
Dragagle meanwhile is just worse Hisuian Goodra a lot of the time.

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Your team also right now leans far too physical without an excellent special breaker, pult isn't good enough.

eager rune
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oooh ok I see what you mean

glacial skiff
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I already mentioned what I would change for chomp.
For Goodra-H, I would make it run Protect, Heavy Slam, Dragon Tail, and Knock Off with leftovers as the item.
For Dragapult replace Hex with Flamethrower and run Choice Specs > Life Orb.

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For Dragonite, for a backup special breaker that still is a ground immunity/fighting resistance. I would put Expert Belt Latios there with Luster Purge, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, and Recover.

eager rune
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ok so replace dragonite with the expert belt latios right?

glacial skiff
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Yup.

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I would also run Physically defensive Archa and Scarf Moon instead of Dragagle and Haxorus.

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If you need me to explain any of these sets/their reasonings I can do so.

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But this is a generally solid dragon 5 mon comp with Chomp on it.

eager rune
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ooooh ok this makes way more sense looking at it, but I do have one question, what would be the main "gimmick" of this team?

glacial skiff
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Just being good and relying on solid fundamentals.
Gimmicks are fun, but I would generally steer clear of them until you have a solid grasp on the tier.

eager rune
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ok ok, I appreciate the help, but looking at the items I see that both archaludon and the h-goodra both have the leftover item. What would be a good switch out for either item in tournaments that have the item clause?

glacial skiff
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Hoodra can be a viable assault vest user.

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You would replace Protect with generally some sort of alternative move. Earthquake is the main one to rely on but Rock Slide does have a niche in checking Volcarona while going with a Sassy Nature can allow you to slot in Draco Meteor more comfortably or Ice beam.

eager rune
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oh yeah I did have some trouble with volcarona, but like you said it is pretty niche. But these are good to know! Thank you so much for the help, I learned a lot haha

glacial skiff
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No problem.

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Hello I've been using a rock team and it seems to be holding up pretty well against it's many weaknesses that would potentially kill it if there's anything I can do to make it better let me know

I'm new to Monotype and I'd love to see what more I can with this
https://pokepast.es/83f2ec780af1510a

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gloomy vapor
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You probably want balloon on raging bolt it gives it more set up opportunities

hexed schooner
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You want Lati@s instead of either bolt or chomp to not hard hard lose ground

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Sorry for being hella late to both these teams (except the Dragon, that was already covered)

glacial skiff
# rapid quest Hello I've been using a rock team and it seems to be holding up pretty well agai...

There is a lot wrong sadly with this team.
While TR seems funny, it lacks a lot of the core utility that gives rock was little value it has in this metagame. As awhole, this team looks like it would under preform if faced with major competition from the solid well built teams further into the tier.
Some things I'm noticing are the following:
A FEAR mon sadly doesn't work with the onslaught of good rocky helmet users and Ghost-types currently in the tier with it completely thudding into mono ghost itself. And thats not counting an forme of hazard damage it has to come in on.
Boulder would prefer band as once Trick room is up, you've got nothing that outspeeds Scarf Meowscarada or Greninja.
Weakness Policy coalossal main weakness will generally remove it before it can pop policy, especially from Water- and Ground-types.
Glimmora would much prefer Air Balloon > Assault Vest to give the team any forme of Ground switch in.
No Oger-C which is easily the best mon Rock has going for it right now.

glacial skiff
# wispy oxide https://pokepast.es/00ed9552528dfaa1 W Monotype team?

It looks, fine, but its currently far too slow. Only Sandy Shocks is faster than base 300 which isn't great as Electric doesn't have the best tools to really play the long game that well. You would probably prefer a faster Zapdos overall along with max speed on raging bolt. Other than that, it looks fine for an electric.

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No Klefki, I also think Phys Val + phys Enamorus isn't great.

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Other than that, it looks fine.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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Basically.

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Screens is just insanely rough to give up on Fairy and its easily the best setter.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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Yeah, the type kind of is.

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Non Klefki teams show up in tours sometimes, but then just fall back out of favor.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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This build, no.

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But, Klefki, Flutter, and Val are basically mandatory.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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Yeah.

hexed schooner
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You can also plah Clefable / Fezandipiti over Prima
Enamorus / Tinkaton over Azu

Tho this team needs some lil rework here and there to be better

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Ive seen non Hatterene sometimes but it means you just give up on hazards management and stall/fat becomes quickly a nightmare

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Looks like a fairly standard ghost. I prefer itemless runt with Foul Play > Hex on Ghost but thats just a me thing.

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Don't need speed though, that is just for Jolly Azu which no one is running.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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I guess.

hexed schooner
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This ghost loses to Gliscor and flying. Ghold + Pecha is weird imo. One of them should be Spectrier or at least gives speed and spa investment to ghold to beat reliably flying

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Since i know people dont want to use my ghost spread for Gholdengo, i know i can lead Gliscor and do at least a 4-0. Tho now we re 5v2 , gg

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Other options are balloon Pecha and spdef Bramble

waxen tapir
hexed schooner
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You're also in a 4HKO roll with Hex but you're also doing nothing to Corvi. Flying is never a 1v1 mon for defensive mons. Also some Gliscor are SD.

waxen tapir
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or like the entry hazard set

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which to be fair I don't see often

lusty anvil
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lusty anvil
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pech is fine overall i personally would drop gholdengo here for like the horse

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parting shot support + horse goes a long way

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either that or like what kraken said earlier in making gholdengo more speed / spa in this comp as overall your team is a lil passive for a ghost

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with no prior utility support other than scarf t wave Pult which i think should be wisp instead.

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Ghost vs Flying is always annoying regardless of the mons, you have to overall play aggressive with your breaker + setup sweepers. Playing passive / defensive results in your being worn down quickly via pivoting core flying utilizes. tips i can give overall is force progress early with SD Ceruledge. you can make great progress in early SD leads, being aggressive on corvi swaps to catch it u-turning to get the weak armor proc off.

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Overall constant pressure is key to winning

hexed schooner
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So we agree with Boomp. Also the best tool of Pecharunt for Ghost is the slow pivot with parting shot to bring Flutter Mane, Dragapult or Spectrier safely on field and claim kill.s . Gholdengo needs to be modest to have a little bit more than max SpA than timid to be able to ohko gliscor for example. Modest can still outspeeds adamant Mamoswine

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https://pokepast.es/0832097136439439
Any tips for how I could improve my ghost gym team? I'm not totally set on keeping Gengar, but I do need a trick room setter to go into my Houndstone sweep. I was also looking into Lunala but I don't know if it would be a good idea running 2 Ghost/Psychics on the ghost gym team bc of the 4x weakness. Any and all tips would be helpful!

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!cobblemon

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I'm looking at this and this just isn't anything like a standard monotype format. The only thing I can say is that, it is ghost.
You wanna hit hard and hit fast so defensive mons aren't ideal while offensive beasts are.

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glacial skiff
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Oh, there was work to be done.

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Gonna be honest, not a fan of this as a look.
Double pivot seems a bit too much for my money and I like having a water resist generally.
I also think Ada is way too greedy in general and Jolly is usually better on Sneasler.

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glacial skiff
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Pex, Moong, WA Clod, whatever sinks their boat.

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If pex or moong, you're dropping runt while clod is over GKing. I'm a bigger Pex/Moong fan than I am clod though.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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Your only real option is DGleam and once its revealed they're just going Hoodra everytime so you'll just be needing to rip flamethrower until it falls.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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Hoodra is mainly sent in to deal with SpA attackers so Wave is useless into it, Pult isn't scared of it, Garchomp isn't scared of it and you'll get to just slam Hydreigon, Moon, Kommo-o, and wake with an OHKO if they come in on Moth.

waxen tapir
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also can I slap tspikes on glowking to help with breaking?

glacial skiff
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Yeah, its mainly replacing slack off.

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With Fiery Dance at +1 it does hella a lot to hoodra from memory so you'll cripple it but likely lose specs in the process.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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Yeah, but generally speaking Hoodra will be switching into FDance to prevent something else from eating a DGleam.

waxen tapir
glacial skiff
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Yeah, so they'll eat the FDance, you'll get the boost and put them in a lovely "oh shit" situation where they have to send something else in to take a major smack of like 70%, a sack, or let Hoodra take way too much to force you out (or trade with Knock)

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glacial skiff
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Probably not, but getting Hoodra outta the way does make Glowking more threatening with Ice Beam and allows you to actually break with DGleam.

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There needs to be an Alolan Muk here as right now you'll get ripped in two by Ghost/Psychic-types along with special darks that can overwhelm Weez-G like Greninja and Darkrai.

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Specs Moth also should be fire blast in my opinion instead of DGleam.

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And Toxic > TSpikes generally on Pex.

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Other than that it looks up to snuff, I think AV King is superior but Chilly reception looks like it would do things here.

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I would say Amoonguss here.

little flicker
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thank you!

hexed schooner
# waxen tapir https://pokepast.es/e2a607e2832d16fc

Dnite isnt offering much while giving up ground and flying MU. I think generally if you can explain a lil bit your build and direction you want to go it will be better. Cause according to it, different solutions will be sent

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# humble rock https://pokepast.es/a19bfddd86eb47e0 hey y'all just started playing competitive ...

Good points:

Ground type
Has some scarf user (tho Sal isnt really ideal since it takes too much from stealth rocks)

Bad points:

Too much tailwind, not much mons truly take advantage of it because they arent strong enough (except for Zard-Y, and it usually is fast enough to do what it does)
No steel type. Kinda makes it so that something like triple axel meowscarada just comes in and goes meow >:3 on the team. Also Mega Diancie to some extent
No defog. Makes Char-Y kinda just. Like. Die when stealth rocks is set (you take 50%)
awkward speedtiers (probably mitigated by too much tailwind, but if we drop tw for more useful moves then the speed is awkward)

humble rock
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I've been only playing for about a week and I really need help

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Uh as for changes tho, it depends.

if you wanna keep Mega Zard-Y, you would really need defog (likely on gliscor). Then you could make Zapdos-G a scarf user (uturn / Close Combat / Brave Bird / Knock is fine). Salamence could be Dragonite with Dragon Dance/Band to complement Zard-Y attacking from Special side. Speaking of Zard Y, you usually prefer Focus Blast/Scorch Sands over Air Slash to bully Steel Mono more and Roost over protect (more longevity). Flamethrower is also as strong than HeatWave and doesnt miss

Togekiss could be replaced by any of the steel birds (Skarm for PhysDef [+ Hazards, like Spikes], Corv for mixDef [+Defog and uturn], or Celesteela [Decently offensive and customizable depending on what you want])

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Thundurus could just be thund-t or what you have now, nasty plot is great on it with Hidden Power Ice / Thunderbolt/ Grass knot for Fly and Water teams. Tho if you go Skarm you would probably want Assault Vest Tornadus-T (for sponging some ice moves + more pivoting).

glacial skiff
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That being said, Skarm/Corv are much more defensive than Steela and if you want to keep being offensive, than Steela is what you would be using.

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And you would want to drop Gliscor for one of the Landorus formes.

humble rock
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Thank you so much

wanton hornet
glacial skiff
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Run a better TSpike mon. Sadly this team as awhole is running sub optimal sets on mostly sub optimal mons.
The only mon here that I would actually recommend for most standard Poison teams is Sneasler and its close to be a good Sneasler set, just run boots or a choice item > Rocky Helmet, Dire Claw > Gunk Shot and depending on your item Fake out/Throat Chop/Rock Slide for Sneasler's last move (fake out on boots, Rock Slide on Scarf, Throat on either Scarf or Band)

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But otherwise.
AMuk outclasses Skuntank.
Gengar, Toxtricity, and Salazzle are all outclassed by Iron Moth. (Gengar and Salazzle have niches over moth, but in terms of just raw buttons, Moth is better.)
Dragagle is outclassed by Galarian Slowking in terms of being a bulky SpD tank capable of setting TSpikes (granted, you don't usually invest on Glowking since Iron Moth is mainly doing special breaking)
There is no long term Ground Immunity or hazard removal here.
There is no Phys Def wall here.
There is no SpD wall here.

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Alright thanks

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too many stipulations for us to provide any valuable input, sorry

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Ability: Stamina
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Bold Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Body Press
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this set for archaludon is better

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and you usually want iron treads instead of excadrill, with stuff like ice spinner knock off and rapid spin

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# waxen tapir https://pokepast.es/e06d86d4b3bc0e93

It looks fine. Maybe more with Toxic Debris Glimmora and Sludge Wave / Energy Ball / Dazzling Gleam / Power Gem + Earth Power + Spikes + Mortal Spin. Corrosion would be cool if you could play more stallish

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You could also play Fire Blast with enough speed for Skarmory on Tyranitar. It grants the 2HKO even with -spa attack. If you're going with a more special / mixed Ttar, Ice Beam is nice for Gliscor too.

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W or L mono-type team? I'm new to competitive play so I don't know how to build a team correctly yet.

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Goodra (gyro ball build)
Kommo-o (body press build)
Zygarde (mega)
Necrozma (physical build)

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!arbitraryformats

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i want to make ice mono with froslass can someone give me a temp team or help me build a new 1

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Okay, most of the mons here are fine, but using suboptimal sets.
That being said, the lack of a Lati twin or Dragapult is going to hurt hard.

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I would probably say drop Kommo-O and either wake or DNite for Latios and Dragapult.

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i see

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swapped dnite and kommo-O for those two

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For the mons themselves:
Roaring Moon should be the Choice Scarf set, DDance Moon is kind of hard to get going and Scarf checks a lot of problematic threats for Dragon such as Choice Specs Flutter Mane.
Walking Wake I like as a boots pivot on Dragon with Water STAB (Scald is my personal pleasure) Flame, Knock, and Flip Turn.
(I have to quickly pause here, I'm about to go grab dinner)

pseudo gale
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personally i really like using ddance sets due to how it feels like i do a lot more damage and have more sweep potienal, but i see why choice scarf set may be better

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Dragon really wants that speed from moon. Pult is too weak to really get a lot of the targets moon can.

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Phys def archa is right, but should have leftovers, flash cannon, stealth rock, and TWave alongside body press in my opinion.

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Hoodra wants to max out HP as it's more so a physical attacker relying on knock, heavy slam (OHKOs flutter and allows it to beat CM Primarina), and dragon tail. I prefer leftovers with protect but if you want to run AV you can run earthquake or minus speed nature with Draco meteor.

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Heavy duty boots.

pseudo gale
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ok

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Scald + flamethrower + knock makes it a really annoying mon for steel to switch into and can usually make progress in most games.

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With pult, I think banded would work the best here and latios I like ebelt the most with luster purge, ice beam, and thunderbolt with earthquake as my last.

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You need max SpD on goodra to really handle a lot of the big special guys since Heavy slam is generally OHKOing a few of them, notably flutter.

pseudo gale
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plus SpD nature too?

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And ID isn't that valuable for Archa as it's big problem matchups are usually fine with taking ID Press.

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Plus SpD nature, yeah.

pseudo gale
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trying to find what banded pult looks like

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im guessing choice band

glacial skiff
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Generally Darts, U-turn, and some combo of psychic fangs, phantom force and sucker punch.

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I like fangs + phantom cause it's good at bullying fighting and cleans through Valiant which is otherwise an annoying mon for dragon to handle.

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While phantom drops hatterene and can endgame ghost if positioned well.

pseudo gale
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i see

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ty

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No problem, I think that covers everything.

pseudo gale
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I just destroyed by friend with this, thanks a ton

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Thoughts (made for fun)

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Why does hands have protect?
The spread on it and kommo is for?
Gallade > Dogi cause this is just entirely dead to a rogue psychic attack.

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Ight

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Any other feedback vro?

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That being said, I don't think weakness hands is the play.

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Hands only has 3 weakness and is way too slow so it will take a hit, usually be forced to use the elemental punches to get a kill then faint or be forced out and be too low to do much of anything.

weak panther
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If weakness hands isn't the play, what is the play?

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SD shuca here probably.

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urban granite
# glacial skiff I'm looking at this and this reads at a Natdex stall water. Needs more boots and...

What would the builds for these be tho? I understand that gastrodon and recover is more reliable than wish for swampert, but I don’t think it’s a clear swap? I mean I have 2 other SpD tanks in toxapex and empoleon. And I like the use of roar with swampert. I’ve won a few games based on roar + hazards alone. So it’s just a mix of preference and ignorance of gastrodon’s potential build. And I’m guessing you’ve suggested mantine for the same more reliable recovery. But I do feel like rotom with status spreading and pivot works well for this team. But again, just preference and ignorance

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The current pex is phys def, and a majority of Electric-types are special attackers.

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With Mantine, it is basically that, but its also a great SpD tank with access to haze and is usually the main Defogger of stall water if they somehow need it.

urban granite
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Alongside empoleon

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Pex is mainly meant to sponge against physical attackers and a majority of Special grasses can be checked well by mantine and Empoleon as well.
A lot of Stall water builds rely on hazard stacking up with Gastro's Spikes + Empo's SR, keeping hazards up through the threat of Competitive.

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Its a lot of boots spam.

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So reliable recovery is very important to the archtype.

urban granite
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For clarification. This is an actual archetype to use right? Drop hazards and stall until hazards/status win the game

glacial skiff
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Yeah.

urban granite
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Thankyou

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Many people trynna tell me it’s not a thing

glacial skiff
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Not considered very good in natdex from my knowledge, but it is seen on ocassion.

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Nah this in in a PBB game just didn’t know where else to post it

glacial skiff
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The fuck is PBB?

urban granite
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Brick bronze. The mighty Roblox

glacial skiff
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Ah.

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https://psim.us/t/1786051

I'm still a beginner trying to improve, this is the first Monotype game I've ever made. Can anyone help me and tell me what I can improve?

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The team in its current state feels at odds with itself.

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Pelipper + Skewda don't really mix with Milotic and Empoleon that well as the rain duo are trying to make it more offensive while defensive duo are doing their damnest to park the bus.

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Azu also don't really work on water that well due to how competitive slots are and on rain especially, it parking the bus too long for a chance to setup while not breaking what it really needs to here (hi Dragon)

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Also Pert here is just, not good. While it is a good mon normally, Pert is too slow to really be an offensive threat.

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If you wanted it to be a more solid rain. I would drop Milotic, Azu, and Empo for a good special attacker (I like Kingdra, but others use guys such as Greninja, Wake, Primarina) and some sort of alternative threat that improves MUs where Barraskewda can struggle such as Hisuian Samurott whose Ceaseless edge helps break through sturdy guys like Archaludon that Barraskewda hates.

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For the rain parts we would be keeping. Skewda should drop Aqua Jet for Psychic Fangs (deals with the Poisons that are its biggest problem in Toxapex, Amoonguss, and Water Absorb Clodsire) and Swampert prefers to be a slower bulkier guy with max HP and SpD, Earthquake, Stealth Rock, Flip Turn, and Knock Off along with Torrent for the ability (damp kinda sucks, theres no good explosion users in the tier)

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So in the end you would end up with something like Peli, Skewda, Pert, Special guy, Samu-H, last (Can be a second special guy, another physical treat, or something else like Tenta/Pex for bulk since they can offer a fair bit to rain despite parking the bus)

night nova
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I understand, this was a huge help. Thank you very much.

glacial skiff
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No problem.

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It’s for monotype nat dex

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# pseudo gale one thing that completely walls this is mostly ogrepon and im def considering us...

You're walled or at least struggling vs flying and steel. Ogerpon doesn't wall you at all, you just click between band Dpulte, SR, Archa, Moon against it. Anyway, you're lacking a choice scarf user. Ground you don't really have weapons against it to prevent it from dropping hazards and clicking STAB Earthquake/EarthPower (Latios isn't a long term switch in since hazards + other moves and Mamoswine)
Generally Latios if not specs likes to drop at least dragon STAB. You can be 4att with IceBeam + Thunderbolt + Psychicmove (LusterPurge/Psyshock/PsychicNoise) + Earthquake/Aurasphere or be 3att dropping the last move for Recover / Agility. Dark is also a big issue for you quickly.

Here you could go with scarf Dragapult to be sure to have speed advantage and Substitute + Nasty Plot Hydreigon > Moon. I'm suggesting otherwise to drop Walking Wake for either Raging Bolt or Garchomp and definitely change your Latios set, if you wanna keep it.

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The team isn't perfect, you have things you can mix to help here and there. But generally Hydreigon is a bulky team destroyer. Scarf Dpult allows to not lose the mirrors. I think you can drop Agility for something else, depending how much you fear fighting (and flying).

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abstract hull
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can someone rate this monosteel team (with wildcard)

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Any Dark-type monotype teams with Mega Tyranitar?

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# brisk mesa Any Dark-type monotype teams with Mega Tyranitar?

From the sample thread here: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-national-dex-monotype-sample-teams-ver-2-submissions-open.3733806/
https://pokepast.es/213b76d92e714c9e
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ok