#Smogon Doubles Rates

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steel furnace
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do I go with speed terrak or attack?

torpid moat
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you sure?

steel furnace
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for the

torpid moat
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it'd be faster if I filled out everything myself

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but if it helps you learn/understand we can go through it

steel furnace
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if I did like the moves myself I get the experience right?

torpid moat
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terrak does want jolly, the speed is the most important factor

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sure fine you can build it

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lmk if you have any questions

steel furnace
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do we run jugulis as a attacker or a Support?

torpid moat
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terrak also wants a defensive item rather than life orb, like covert cloak for fake out, or even keep berry or sitrus

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terrak should also seriously consider steel or grass tera so it can actually survive with friend guard

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gross wants assault vest, switching moves is very important for it

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jug is more support oriented, air slash/snarl/tailwind/protect should work, or dark pulse over snarl if you still have trouble with gross, just go hp and spe

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wait huh I didn't realize I added rockpon

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my bad

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I wasn't intentionally planning to add that lol

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it is a very good mon, but in my head I was thinking about answering it rather than bringing

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rockpon may be fine, but potentially you run mew in that slot instead

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volcanion you probably just go this set, earth power is important for volc mirror and ground tera lets you resist certain hits like ivy cudgel and electric while retaining water immunity

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Volcanion @ Assault Vest  
Ability: Water Absorb  
Tera Type: Ground  
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 Spe  
Modest Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Steam Eruption  
- Heat Wave  
- Earth Power  
- Sludge Bomb
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gross can have dark tera

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the rest seems fine

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if you do run mew it probably goes like stealth rock/wisp/pollen puff

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not sure about last move, also consider psychic fangs over eq gross

steel furnace
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this should be good enuf for mewr right?

steel furnace
torpid moat
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switching moves as in not being choice locked

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you don't wanna get locked into bp, or you may want to use bp to pick something off, or you might wanna use coverage, etc

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psychic fangs was for metagross, not mew

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earthquake is also fine because you have jug though

brittle spade
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-spatk or -speed are ok here

misty venture
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its not that good, but it can always work

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i would say clam is better, as it still gives good options into lando, and also tera grass gives it more options

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the set i would use would be cc, wild charge, ice punch, protect

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thats my opinion tho

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lemme know ur thoughts

peak crypt
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your Iron Hands thoughts are just plain incorrect

misty venture
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whats your hands set?

peak crypt
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Clear Amulet Hands isn’t bad, but it generally uses Swords Dance and has teammates that are built to support it

misty venture
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ic, i was playing w screens and had hands as a counter to tr teams

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which is why i had clam tera grass

peak crypt
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If you’re just looking to throw down with an Iron Hands, the better set is Assault Vest with Fake Out / Wild Charge / Fighting move of choice / filler move of choice, which can be a second Fighting move, Ice Punch for Landorus, Heavy Slam for Diancie, or rarely Volt Switch

misty venture
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yea thats tru, that does make a lot of sense

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mb, sry about that

peak crypt
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and as far as rain goes: it’s not totally embarrassing, it’s playable, but it’s just not stronger than the other things you can do in the format

misty venture
peak crypt
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If you want a damage boost on your Ogerpon, you can play it with Howl Gouging Fire

misty venture
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like, rain will be strong no matter what format, just depends on the mons available

peak crypt
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If you want fast attackers, Roaring Moon and Tornadus are powerful Tailwind setters

misty venture
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and seeing as wake and bridge are banned and basc got nerfed

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its not great

peak crypt
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If you want a stronger Primarina, you can just use Calm Mind with a good supporting cast (I’m not a huge Primarina believer tbh)

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The format is filled with good Fire resists, and Pelipper won’t save you from the Torkoal fullroom teams anyway (because they’re mostly hyper offensive and will just kill you with Hatterene or Ursaluna instead)

misty venture
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truthfully, i havent played hands that much

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im much more of a 'big spread damage equal good' type player

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i laddered to top 50 w a regidrago team

peak crypt
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And outside of Torkoal and Chi-Yu, the Fire types in the format aren’t strong enough to want rain to beat—and even Chi-Yu isn’t exactly a top tier threat

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Pelipper dropping out of DOU entirely is a pretty good indicator that rain is struggling

misty venture
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damn

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thats crazy to me

peak crypt
misty venture
peak crypt
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and Basc-M wasn’t banned because of rain; the Scarf set was a way bigger offender

misty venture
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the idea being it beats out other rain teams by using sunny day

misty venture
peak crypt
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Singles banned Last Respects

misty venture
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thats why its not as good as it could be

peak crypt
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You can still use Last Respects in SV DOU

misty venture
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its been i minute since i played sv dou

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ive been on a champions spree recently

scenic helm
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So uh I just started comp Pokémon (and kinda just Pokémon in general) a few days ago. With assistance of random yt videos and … chat gpt I threw this team together based off Vivillon compound eyes + speed powder combo thing and it being able to set up sun

Anyways before I really start going at it in battles is there any tweaks I should make to this team?

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peak crypt
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this team is illegal in Doubles OU (Darkrai, Flutter Mane, and Groudon are banned) and would be extremely weak in Doubles Ubers

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first thing to do is pick a format

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second thing to do is delete chatgpt from your favorites bar and never go there again. that is the tool of the enemy.

torpid moat
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tbf the format is labeled as dubers

torpid moat
halcyon pantherBOT
torpid moat
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it's really just not usable at a dubers power level right now though, especially because of miraidon's existence, and honestly the sleep part isn't good in doubles ou either

scenic helm
scenic helm
torpid moat
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the problem in doubles ou is a lot of natural sleep powder immunities present in the format like ogerpon and gholdengo

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the correct choice would be to lean away from sleep rather than into it, and only use sleep powder when it's convenient

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vivillon would just be a hipster tailwind mon

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it does get other decent support moves like rage powder and pollen puff though

peak crypt
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Compound Eyes Hurricane is also not awful

scenic helm
torpid moat
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darkrai is also banned in dou

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because of dark void

scenic helm
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Well I guess I would have to get rid of darkrai anyway

torpid moat
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again, sleep shouldn't be you primary strategy

scenic helm
torpid moat
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but yeah vivi is just like a hipster mon, I could probably make a somewhat passable team with it

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if you're just trying to win you can just take a fresh team though

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I'm not sure what your goals are

scenic helm
torpid moat
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the ladder will self-adjust your win rate to be 50%

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well approximately

scenic helm
torpid moat
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here's a sample that's pretty well balanced

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and makes much better use of tailwind

scenic helm
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Interesting

torpid moat
scenic helm
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Are these for ou or Ubers?

torpid moat
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these are all for doubles ou

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I can pull up the dubers samples as well if you prefer but it's a format more about spamming the most broken stuff

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but yeah if you're learning it's really gonna be about working on your playing skills and format knowledge rather than your team

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so you should take a team that you actually know is good to remove variables

scenic helm
torpid moat
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the most important things to work on are turn order/speed tiers, rough estimation of damage (whether things kill etc) and the damage formula, and just understanding 4 mon positions and the possible outcomes

steel furnace
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also I changed the Bullet punch from metagross to Psychic fangs, was that the right move?

torpid moat
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no, bullet punch is one of gross's best moves earthquake is the one to drop

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reflect is redundant with wisp

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actually, you're gimmicking anyways, run transform on the last slot if you want

steel furnace
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alright

torpid moat
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either that or another tailwind

steel furnace
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that's all right?

torpid moat
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yeah it's a pretty good move and you do have both gross and volc

steel furnace
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ty yellow pain

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paint

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i shall now kill or be killed

cloud torrent
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this is probably my favorite team I made

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brittle spade
burnt merlin
halcyon pantherBOT
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New [Gen 9] Doubles OU RMT @brittle spade, @peak crypt, @torpid moat, @rose juniper, @tight spire. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

burnt merlin
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i forgot to put knock off on incineroar

brittle spade
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Lmao this is why I do team ratings

peak crypt
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Falinks isn’t helping but Cinderace and Hatt suck here

burnt merlin
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i like falinks

peak crypt
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and the Grimm set could be better

brittle spade
burnt merlin
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so whats the recomendation?

peak crypt
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gonna leave this one to ratpacker

brittle spade
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Oh
Gotta grab the computer then

brittle spade
sly fern
burnt merlin
brittle spade
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your falinks can now hit okidogi n gholdengo

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you can put fake out on grimm over parting shot or spirit break if you really want to

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last mons could also be chien pao glimmora

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that would be ok too

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in that scenario you can go tera steel iron head on falinks again

brittle spade
sly fern
burnt merlin
brittle spade
sly fern
brittle spade
# burnt merlin whats the point of trick room?

oh right i just copy pasted a set
you can run this instead :
Sinistcha @ Eject Button
Ability: Hospitality
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 8 SpA / 172 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Matcha Gotcha
  • Shadow Ball
  • Rage Powder
  • Strength Sap
burnt merlin
brittle spade
# burnt merlin how do i start

grimmsnarl + incin, grimmsnarl + falinks, falinks + incin, bax + torn are all possible
depends whats on the other side

burnt merlin
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k

brittle spade
burnt merlin
brittle spade
orchid stump
halcyon pantherBOT
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brittle spade
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Also you should probably run Tera flying gholdengo and no follow me on ogerpon since you're not running setup

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Otherwise run shuca nasty plot gholdengo on this

fossil ruin
halcyon pantherBOT
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New [Gen 9] Doubles OU RMT @brittle spade, @peak crypt, @torpid moat, @rose juniper, @tight spire. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.

rose juniper
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ill take a look

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alright whats the plan with this team and what do you want from the raters?

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@fossil ruin

fossil ruin
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wanted so advice

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some*

rose juniper
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on what exactly

fossil ruin
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the main strat is battery right

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from chargabug

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basically a life orb right next to you

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but i also have armpharos there

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for damage

rose juniper
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so is the goal to have a gimmick team with chargabug or is the goal to have a good team?

fossil ruin
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the first one

rose juniper
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alright

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in that case I suggest we remove everything but charjabug for now

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and start with that

fossil ruin
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damn

rose juniper
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char is just kind of an ass mon but if you want to use it I would for sure go with a support set

fossil ruin
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im thinking evolite for the charjabug

rose juniper
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that means remove the AV and slot some useful stuff

rose juniper
fossil ruin
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ok ok

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done

rose juniper
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alright, this is what I made of it

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the last 2 move slots will be filled in later if we know a bit more about the team

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next lets look at some pokemon that could benefit from its ability

fossil ruin
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electroweb?

rose juniper
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sure

fossil ruin
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i have struggle bug as well

rose juniper
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you'd be better of with eerie impulse if you wanted to go for spatk reduction

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or lightscreen

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but I suggest we leave the bug for now

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and start looking at the other mons

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we are looking for somewhat speedy stuff here cause of the sticky web

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are there any specific special attackers that you like?

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stuff like chi-yu, lando or wake maybe

fossil ruin
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chi yu

rose juniper
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sure that works

fossil ruin
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the FIH

rose juniper
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any prefrence for its item

fossil ruin
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so chi yu

rose juniper
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scarf, specs, AV

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anything else

fossil ruin
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as a way to heal

rose juniper
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I would very much advise against that

fossil ruin
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or life orb

rose juniper
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in that case go lorb

fossil ruin
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okay sure

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should i do lava plume or burning jealousy?

rose juniper
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id run something like this

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neither

fossil ruin
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or right heat wave

rose juniper
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with that speed stat you outspeed bundle and everything below in sticky web

fossil ruin
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tailwind setter?

rose juniper
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could do that yeah

fossil ruin
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i use whims alot

rose juniper
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tornadus or roaring moon are overall better, if you like prankster over bulk then go torn and if you like bulk over prankster more then go moon. If you are really attachted to whim you can ofc run that but the first 2 are the prime TW options

fossil ruin
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i see

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on my sun team i do run torn

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ill stick to that

rose juniper
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do you want to make this a sun team?

fossil ruin
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nahh

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i dont mind the weather

rose juniper
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alright, any other special attackers you like?

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if not you could put on lando

fossil ruin
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therian?

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wait no

rose juniper
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incarnate

fossil ruin
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hmmm

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sheer force?

rose juniper
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yes

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sheerforce lorb is the usual set

fossil ruin
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gotta love sheer force

brittle spade
rose juniper
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idk, tbh I wouldnt go either

brittle spade
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it doesnt have much else

rose juniper
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id look at screens or baton pass ID

brittle spade
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oh, that would be funny

rose juniper
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baton pass could be a fun gimmick

fossil ruin
brittle spade
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struggle bug reflect sounds ok

rose juniper
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I think it has only light screen for some reason

brittle spade
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yuck

fossil ruin
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yeah...

rose juniper
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eitherway we got a standard\ core here with bug

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id suggest we now add ogerpon

fossil ruin
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it only has iron defense 😭

rose juniper
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gives you some form of a physical attacker

fossil ruin
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true

rose juniper
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and can deal with opposing lando for your chi

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if you go water

fossil ruin
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cant all be special

rose juniper
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alright

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then we got one more slot left

fossil ruin
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thats not 4?

rose juniper
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we got put in another physical attacker to balance it out, we could put in another special attack to help the gimmick or we could put in a funny mon

fossil ruin
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right the torn

peak crypt
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okay hear me out: Okidogi

fossil ruin
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you have been heard

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never used it before

rose juniper
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I was actually also looking at that haha

peak crypt
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people will be switching their Incineroars into Chi-Yu and you can punish them with Dogi

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and AV Dogi is also just a good bulky guy you can throw at your opponent

fossil ruin
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wolfey is a huge problem

rose juniper
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AV dogi could also play into the ID pass gimmick

peak crypt
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Wolfe is just a guy. Incineroar is a legacy

fossil ruin
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lol mb

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i didnt feel lie typing toe full name

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the*

peak crypt
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People abbreviate it to Incin pretty often, there’s always that

rose juniper
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eitherway which tera are we going for with dogi

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smogdexs suggests water or dragon but I am not huge on either

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dragon could work ig but still

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must be something better

peak crypt
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there’s always Dark

rose juniper
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yeah that works I suppose

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alright

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I think this should be it

peak crypt
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though I think I prefer Dragon

rose juniper
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I still prefer dark but I suppose we'll leave the decision with @fossil ruin

peak crypt
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this team looks like it could struggle with opposing Wellspring

rose juniper
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I dont think its that bad

fossil ruin
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its for fun

rose juniper
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you got a dogi, torn and opposing wellspring with redirect

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  • chi and lando outspeeds with webs
fossil ruin
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you dont even wanna SEE my cetitan team

rose juniper
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I think its workable

peak crypt
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a team can take specific threats into account and still be for fun

fossil ruin
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true

peak crypt
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Most of the time you’re probably going to Tera your fish or Wellspring anyway, Okidogi’s Tera type is a pretty small decision but it could still swing a few games

fossil ruin
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usually my thought process is i wake up, think of a pokemon thats just shit, and use it

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after 9-10 years of showdown, its get boring yk

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well @rose juniper @peak crypt @brittle spade mb for the ping but thanks for the help

spiral breach
brittle spade
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The team looks fine

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Idk how better you can support feraligatr

cloud heath
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Please help me add pokemon that synergies with this team

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Btw pls no more grass and fire pokemon

brittle spade
cloud heath
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Proto sunny day or item?

brittle spade
cloud heath
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I dont know and dont like to use her

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Like at all

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@brittle spade

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Pretty pleaaaase try

brittle spade
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diancie is unfortunately the better partner
but you can also use farigiraf cresselia or indeedee+hatterene

cloud heath
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Maybe i shiuod get tornados w no tailwind

brittle spade
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the other lilligant is also better with torkoal

cloud heath
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Cz im not looking for a tailwind build at all

cloud heath
brittle spade
cloud heath
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js the final pokemon

cloud heath
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and incen is better slowed

brittle spade
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you don't need to have your whole team to work in tailwind or in trick room

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you don't have to click tailwind every game

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you have it, it's there if you need it

cloud heath
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Its js useless imo

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for the build im doing

brittle spade
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then don't run tornadus

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run litteraly anything else

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it doesnt even help you

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torkoal already deals with grass types

cloud heath
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Well what does

brittle spade
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for the 4 you already have your best option is a pokemon with trick room and a pokemon that works in trick room

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or even banded dragonite + a trick room user

cloud heath
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How bout therian lando?

brittle spade
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NO

cloud heath
brittle spade
cloud heath
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Js please take another look at my team to understand

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brittle spade
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should be your last pokemon

brittle spade
cloud heath
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Oh shi I forgot

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What move should i add instead of protect?

cloud heath
brittle spade
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also just use standard sets, focus sash on lilligant, heavy duty boots on incineroar

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and charcoal on torkoal

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or idk life orb

cloud heath
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No this is better trust me

brittle spade
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no this is the DOU rates channel, im the one who says trust me

brittle spade
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bronzong is ok here i guess

cloud heath
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I only need help with yhe 2 other

brittle spade
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we're here to give you competitive advice, you do what you want in game after

brittle spade
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Raging Bolt @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 224 HP / 88 Def / 48 SpA / 148 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 20 Atk

  • Thunderclap
  • Draco Meteor
  • Snarl/Thunderbolt
  • Volt Switch
cloud heath
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Ok so for that last pokemon

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Trick room setter isnt gonna be possible

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Im sorry i know im being annoying but yk😭

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Its js not like not working with how i am going to play this team you know what i mean

brittle spade
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no i don't

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not putting a trick room user as your 6th pokemon will lower your winrate

cloud heath
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i dont care bro i play for fun

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I hate trick room

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Theres no way in hell im playing it even if im in a pokemons finales match

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Sorry

brittle spade
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yeah but we can't help you have fun here

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that's something for you to figure out

cloud heath
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Im js saying to give me a pokemon for good type coverage

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All i need

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Please

brittle spade
cloud heath
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Thanks

brittle spade
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or a fat one like this Landorus (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 196 HP / 28 Def / 76 SpA / 208 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Sandsear Storm
  • Sludge Bomb
  • Stealth Rock
  • Protect
cloud heath
brittle spade
cloud heath
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Ohh ok

cloud heath
brittle spade
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NO

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Unless you want to hit your own pokemon

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And miss the KO on ogerpon wellspring

cloud heath
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Im debating wether i should add this or the set youve showed me

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Ive gotta both of your sets

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In

cloud heath
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I forgot

brittle spade
cloud heath
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Yea but choice scarf switcheroo can ruin a pokemon no?

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And then ive got everything else for helping my other mon

brittle spade
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You already can't do it to gholdengo, dark types, ogerpons

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Your whimsicott can't switch moves until you get rid of the scarf

cloud heath
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Yea well ill get rid of that scarf first round

brittle spade
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Whimsicott is already a bad pokemon

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Only used because of priority tailwind and encore

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And you got neither

cloud heath
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Ok man

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ill do your thing

brittle spade
cloud heath
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Thanks

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Also ive wanted u to checkout this set is it any good

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brittle spade
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Pledge is bad

cloud heath
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Whaaaaat

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it makes the opponents super slow

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and doubles my chances of flinching

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And crits

brittle spade
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You need two specific pokemon together on the field both clicking attacking moves for a payoff that isn't worth it

brittle spade
cloud heath
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Ight ight

brittle spade
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I can pass you a pledge team because its been requested here a bunch

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But it's not a good strategy

cloud heath
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Nah no need thanks

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wait actually hell yea

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gimme

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Is this a good mousehold set?

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torpid moat
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the whole reason to use it is follow me

cloud heath
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Well my reason to use it the the dmg reduction

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and i want to fool people

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Into thinking i will use follow me

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But i will use ragepowder into mega scovillian

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What more should i add

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brittle spade
cloud heath
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What is 1 more pokemon to add (the second is just for zoroark to copy)

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Wait does that work in vgc

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The last pokemon that is not used

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Like the 6th

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does it still copy him

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@brittle spade heeeelp

brittle spade
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What

brittle spade
cloud heath
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Vgc is the same as doubles..

brittle spade
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I haven't played vgc champions and I wouldn't even know what the team comps to prepare for are

frank shoal
halcyon pantherBOT
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steep vine
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I don't know if this is the right channel for this team. But I've been running a off meta mega Garchomp. I've had an ok success with it, winning 27 matches in 50. But I'm trying to figure out solutions to teams running Sinischa. Because my counters usually die before I'm given a chance to kill. Here's the team
https://share.google/Zr4FqpCzcVYKJSuAd

torpid moat
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same to you @cloud heath

steep vine
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Thanks

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I just sent it over there

torpid moat
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in some ways, you're going for very surface-level synergy instead of flexible and useful support that can answer other strong teams

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torkoal diancie semiroom is actually a thing and does have a lot of really cool synergies, but it uses stronger mons as well like walking wake for more immediate power

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also zoroark kinda sucks and isn't that unpredictable once it's on team preview

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there are versions that do keep after you lilligant though

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wake does a lot of swampert's role better without needing to involve sap sipper

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but there are other important components here like the iron hands functioning as a second coaching target, and sinistcha as another setter plus more healing for the diancie

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and here's one of mine that leans faster instead, it's a bit more hard-commit to sun than the usual comps but it includes all 3 of wake lilli gouging

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dusky summit
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Well other than that is there any room for like improvment

peak crypt
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Did you just adjust the EV sliders until they looked pretty

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the EVs here kind of just… look like nonsense, to be perfectly honest

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There are other issues to get to but that’s question #1 for now

dusky summit
peak crypt
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take a look at what you actually did

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You have Attack EVs on your Gholdengo with no physical moves and Special Attack EVs on your Slowbro with no special moves!

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Suggestion for now: delete all of your EVs until we work on some other bits

dusky summit
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Okay so like what do I do now

peak crypt
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Let me start from the first couple Pokémon then: Regigigas and Weezing isn’t actually that great of a duo; Weezing is often kind of a dead weight and a no-ability Regigigas isn’t strong enough to make up for having a dead weight in play. Are you fully set on running Weezing Regi? Would you perhaps be interested in building for Doubles UU instead, or do you absolutely want to use Pokemon like Incineroar and Gholdengo alongside them?

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If you do want to build specifically Weezing Regi in DOU, there’s a couple pretty quick Pokemon changes we can make and then we can work on individual sets

dusky summit
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Well i kinda want regigas in it

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And i thought weezing was cool

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But if there is a better option ill take

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Uh gholdengo and incineroar are there because i got destroyed by them

dusky summit
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There kind of isn’t; Regigigas is really, really bad, and its best set without Weezing is just a support set

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peak crypt
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No the support set just doesn’t really use attacks. It’s like Icy Wind / Knock Off / Wide Guard / Thunder Wave

dusky summit
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Oh so like i just have regigigas to support other pokemoj

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Because like his atk is abysmal

peak crypt
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I guess a better way to put it is: if you want a “good” team, it shouldn’t have Regigigas on it at all. If you want a Regigigas team that’s actually about using Regigigas, you should play it with Weezing

dusky summit
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What other pokemon can I put tho

peak crypt
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Step 2 is delete the Slowbro then

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And the Torkoal alongside it

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If you’re using Regigigas you want to make sure the rest of your team is as strong as possible

dusky summit
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I thought torkoal was a good pokemon

peak crypt
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Slowbro is not that, and if we’re removing the guy with Trick Room, we should remove the Pokémon that really wants Trick Room to function

dusky summit
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Well my like idea was when regigigas gets killed eith weezing i send iut torkoal and slowbro as like a duo

peak crypt
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Torkoal is good on teams built to either spam Eruption in TR or on teams using Pokemon that benefit a lot from Sun, like Raging Bolt, Chi-Yu, and Lilligant. Let’s keep the focus a little narrower

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peak crypt
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You already have a very strong backup plan with Gholdengo, so we can replace Torkoal and Slowbro with a couple other strong Pokemon

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I was thinking Wellspring Ogerpon and Roaring Moon

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They’re both powerful Pokemon that can both deal good damage and provide team support, and neither are strictly tied to their abilities, meaning you can bring Weezing in with them and not be too upset

dusky summit
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Also uh

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My regigigas has assault vest but protect i just realised that

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Thats why i wasnt able to use protect

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Okay so what do I do next

peak crypt
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I’m a little pressed for time, so here’s a full build

dusky summit
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I forgot Tera types on Weezing and Regi WHOOPS

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Probably Ghost on Regigigas and Dark or Grass on Weezing

dusky summit
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Ill put dark on weezing then

peak crypt
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For those two, I just went with pretty simple stuff—three attacks and Protect for Regigigas and some basic disruptive stuff on Weezing to keep it relevant against more things

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The other four Pokémon are lifted straight from the Smogon strategy dex, because I’m on my phone and don’t have access to any other EV spreads right now

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Incineroar’s item is Ability Shield so you can still make use of Intimidate when Weezing is in play

dusky summit
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Okay so thanks for the help

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Im gonna try the build out rn

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waterpon and gholdengo are better in almost every way

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whimsicott is also generally worse than tornadus or roaring moon except for very specific niches like fake tears

torpid moat
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makes you less fighting weak that way too

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that'd free up space for something like iron crown for a fastmode instead

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good eforce user, use booster energy speed

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alternatively if you're feeling too weak to ghold you can run moltres-galar in that slot

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it also feels like you made half a psyspam hard tr team and then had howl gouging which belongs on a completely different comp

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hatt can cut heal pulse, blood moon cuts focus blast

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glast only really needs icicle crash + high horsepower for attacks

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in the last 2 slots run like incineroar and waterpon maybe

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dusky tinsel
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Doesn’t exactly offer anything new to the rest of the team except coverage but maybe he’s cooking and steam is getting in my eyes if you know what I mean

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Could we swap out nasty plot for protect ? I mean it already has life orb and Pokémon who normally counter goldengo wanna really hit it hard which they do so is there even a point in nasty plot ?

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Okay I assume the lead in indeede flamigo covering spread moves fake out and single target moves away from the flamigo if it sets up tailwind

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When we are in tailwind we just try and steam roll through there team id watch out for intimidators and assault vest Pokémon

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Be careful of the rilloboom match up most rillobooms users ( like me ) most time like to run assault vest along with u turn and sometimes knock off

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You do absolutely have a good matchup into incin though

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Nice thing about flamigo it’s scrappy will go through incins tera ghost which it normally does if people do tera there incin which probably might do considering your physical attackers that are scary

brittle spade
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You can't have flamigo and tusk on the same team too

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They are both bad and share similar weaknesses

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Scarf zapdos is unfortunately also a bad set

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A team that would perform okayish would be indeedee gholdengo Ogerpon-Wellspring zapdos galar incineroar roaring moon/mew/iron valiant and you stick a psychic seed on gholdengo

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ik it prob wont win too many matches but i want a team thatll do very well if i pull the terrain off

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Blastoise and incin are also really useful

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Both have good bulk and pivot moves, as well as fake out

fervent coral
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i see, 1 sec

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(pretend incineroar has fire pledge instead of flare blitz

misty venture
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Yea thats better

misty venture
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Maybe try grimmsnarl if you really want to instead if zong

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Better screens, better support

fervent coral
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got it

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brittle spade
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Do it in duu

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Also serene grace doesn't stack with rainbow so don't use jirachi

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oof how do you even beat double genies

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as hard trick room

brittle spade
signal elk
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nah

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just in general

brittle spade
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Because in general hard trick room has diancie hatterene indeedee

signal elk
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yeah i have those on my team but the combo of bleakwind/sandsear storm kills all of them

brittle spade
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Which easily farms double genie

signal elk
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howww

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i have to run TERA FLYING on diancie just to live and get up TR its insane

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ground + flying is such a good offensive combo

brittle spade
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Doesn't hatterene live Bleakwind + Sandsear Storm?

signal elk
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not in my experience, no

signal elk
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currently im on sash and it works well but seed might be better

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signal elk
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Do you actually need 3 fire moves on torkoal
I feel like EP would be better