#[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates
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remove it
If you're going for sub dd, I'd take 52 evs out of atk and put them in HP to get 404 hp
Makes subs unbreakable from blissey seismic toss
not that relevant of a calc ngl since blissey never wants to 1v1 kyurem anyways
Alright are there any set changes I should make to any of the members?
Or would they be fine the way they are
ok
Ogerpon is working as a pivot rn, but should I opt for swords dance instead?
drop gking drop hamurott
not the biggest fan of ogerpon but wtv we can make it work
make it sd, slot on atales, slot on iron moth with sub
look good, not the biggest fan of wellspring or ghold but both are fine
That's fire
Is tera blast fine on Moth?
yes
I personally feel like TB is too situational
Alrighty then
Probably just have to get used to using it more
i mean if you dont like it you can easily pick like dgleam or psyshic etc
yeah
I think it's better to get used to tera blast because I'll probably need to use it eventually
Thanks for the help! I appreciate it!
np
https://pokepast.es/9e5014cf7085ffc3
I've been away from competitive for a while, not sure how the meta's developed. Is this team any good? I lack hazard removal, which sucks a lot. I wanna keep Kyurem + Roaring Moon if possible, but if not, it's fine
This team desperately needs some form of hazard removal. Essential for Kyurem's longevity
Honestly, Ghold may be the one out IMO since you're really hazard stacking or going for webs
You only have rocks, which is quite little to justify ghold blocking for
I'd put lead treads with booster
Also, I'd switch out Opergon for Gambit for a endgame sweeper
Ngl lead treads ain't the most consistent removal
Tusk then?
Ye probably
Alternatively you can swap both ghold and glisc out
Lead treads with like
Cinderace
Maybe
That works well
Also, question, is this the reworked team?
just somethin i cooked up, considering fairy on kyu perhaps but other than that thats it
What do we think? https://pokepast.es/27398a0a0eaea7b3
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i have a team kinda like this
and i hate playing it
feel like rillaboom just isnt the play
but thats me
https://pokepast.es/6746c746d12a2b1b want some actual criticism for once, its not off meta garb for once
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wanted help here too
Idk what’s up with all the changed evs but unless you’ve got a specific calc in mind, change them back
Besides that, ddance Pult is ass and vest Primarina doesn’t fit on hyper offense, drop both for kingambit and another sweeper, I would recommend either Dnite or Roaring Moon
https://pokepast.es/9b4c1b82304d70ae
Wishfish>AV?
Weavile swap?
Hatterene set is OK?
Dnite could go (to a ghost type to keep hazards up?) but I use him for Espeed revenge kill/DD sweep
why no raging bolt btw
also this team is unviable
I don't wanna use legendary
it's that simple

oh and I changed stomping tantrum with seed bomb for morpeko
just to deal with quagsire...
🗿
oh damn
This is OU rates, raters also don’t rate teams with arbitrary restrictions
!nolegends
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attempt at a lokix balance, i couldn't figure out how to fit rocks and feel weak to kyurem
https://pokepast.es/3b0adb3b30517369 raging bolt item swap? feel like some stuff swappable
What is rillaboom doing on here exactly? None of your pokemon benefit all that much from terrain and assault vest is a pretty mid set in my opinion
i wanted a woger switch in and i thought grassy would help kix and crown against hazards
also i thought double priority could be cool
what should i switch it with
Well you do already have spin for hazards
If you want more priority the best ones are of course kingambit and dragonite
Dragonite is a bad kyurem switch in but could revenge with espeed
oh also helps with woger yeah
Kingambit is slightly better on kyurem but not great against ogerpon
You could also consider tinkaton for kyruem check + rocks but then you are pretty ground weak
i could make crown av?
should i replace gking then cuz they’re kinda redundant
and i don’t have a darkrai switch in
at all
Not necessarily it's good to have very sturdy special defense
You can try to pressure darkrai with lokix
Throw focus blast on crown
it already has it
Hey hey, what do we think of this team? Can I climb ladder or should I change something fruther. Thanks to everyone who got me this far lol
Bump
Divine creater forgive me, I'm branching out to building a stall team. Can't seem to figure out what is missing, as it feels clunky to me. Any advice is appreciated https://pokepast.es/b110d3b2966b9942
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Not a fan of cb pult
Also you lack speed control
Well other than pult
3 attack moves on corv is odd. I'd take our Brave Bird for Iron Defense
solid team but a few issues
A: unfortunately clod isn't as good as it ocne was, and spdef pex is better + you need a regen mon + better mu into sub and kyurem
B: sticky barb clef is better to absolutely shit on rmoon, especially taunt rmoon
if you're runnign sinistcha it sohuld be the defensive set with foul play instead of calm mind
other than that, surprisinlgy really solid stall team (maybe a different tera for gliscor), have fun terroririzing ladder
Stall claims another victim/s
Right on, thanks for the advice. I made the changes. Is tera fairy good for Gliscor?
Nah man lol, suck at beating stall. Learning to play it to be better against it. necessary evil of getting better
Was thinking Water, but clef already tera water
Are my other teras solid?
shoudl be, but feel free to tweak if you find yourself struggling with certain mnus
*mus
Will do! thanks again
Now to start cooking a stall breaking team
I've gotten much better at beating stall especially this Gen but I also suck at playing stall
It's lowkey rewarding and fun to play if you have time
It just turns it into one big resource management game which is cool
Identify your wincons and don’t just mindlessly switch mons
That’s how I play stal
Stall
When I do
i feel the other sinistcha set is better on stall?
gliscor tera
whats the mixed kyurem switch in btw?
probably will have to pop tera clod i think
genuinely just use kyurem to beat stall, specifically the mixed set lol
garg as well
ursaluna is a great breaker too, hard to fit onto normal teams tho
heatran traps used to be insane to beat stall, but heatran doesnt have much viability in this meta
Have mixed kyurem as the star piece on my upcoming stall Breaker team, with av hoopa-u
Is pecharunt a good stall breaker?
Oh yeah, Luna is good
I already made the changes
Made it Max Def with foul play
There is none, basically get gg'd
Considering this is my first gen of competitive mons since gen 6, I've only improved lol
I will never not feel disgusting playing it.
ive gotten better at playing stall but not beating it
The wins will only make it dirtier
My bulky hazard stack team is the best at beating it
I'm too impatient for that. I find bully balance( hazard stack) has been the furthest I can go defensive
https://pokepast.es/47af234c10f196ef first team any advice?
ik im weak to ice so i was thinking switch iron treads tera to steel and ursalunas to ghost
need some help incorporating hazards too
its not great in sv
in previous gens, stall was better
https://pokepast.es/7ea06384e2d21a65
lmk :3
mandibuzz is crazy tech, but i felt i lost to dark/ghost types pretty much. specifically pult and dengo, and i needed a fogger soooo
Hmm what about webs? what is a speed control?
Hmmm wanted to try g slowking balance. https://pokepast.es/2b7e32a3d15a1ee4
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Yeah, gen 6 with Mega Venusaur and mega
Sableye
gen 7 and 8 with shed
I'd switch bolt to kyurem. Good to take advantage of slowkings slow pivots and snow defense boost
Your sets are iffy. Rilla should have cb for full power. Cinderace should be boots
changed to https://pokepast.es/72060b78d4938164 to help mandi outspeed base 60s
I'd make prim av
Anything else or is that it? And which set of kyurem cuz like all the dragons it runs like 5 different sets
why use skarmory
any reason
Also without bolt isn't speed an issue?
u have pult
Dual hazards plus it's typing protects glowking on the physical side pretty well.
That's fair, I assume I'd need a gholdengo and perhaps a better spiker than skarmory? I don't really play offense or ho mostly just BO and balance.
not always dengo, just a spin blocker
Ah, is pult not a good one? Given it's frailty or is specs pult specifically not a good spin blocker.
Not sure what else tbh
Then ting lu would help you there
Pult is good, just need to be more picky when to spin block
Webs is decent, but for your comp, I'd just make Val Booster energy
Speed control is control your opponents fast mons with your own
on playing with this team, i dont like mandibuzz much, should i use sd gliscor instead? i want to have a fly type, while also not losing to pult/dengo
And being able to threaten them back @bitter quail
I think corv is decent here
Get yourself a hazard remover
moth cleans
https://pokepast.es/aa7699e0093e93eb might change pult back to specs
Hmmm i feel a ground immunity may be required
That is a problem
And ice types will probably be a problem
No, Boots pivot is the best set
Anything on ice types or is the team fine?
You have enough i feel to deal with them
That's better
Alright then is it safe to assume it's ready for testing
Yes, tweak as you go. If you find your team struggles with a mon, change up your teras or even a mon to counter
I would make ting Lu great tusk. This allows you to keep rocks and spikes off for av alo to do its job more effectively.
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I would personally drop Weavile for balloon or glasses gambit. Same idea but a bit more consistent than weave imo.
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Slowking galarian > hat gives you more insurance vs fairies which you got owned by at first. Additionally it’s extra insurance vs stuff like raging bolt.
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I think zama can be all out attacking here gives you a way to pressure defensive teams along with future sight.
Zamazenta @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Dauntless Shield
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Heavy Slam
- Crunch
- Stone Edge
You can run ice fang > stoned edge for gliscor (if you choose to do so)
- I feel dragonite could run roost here.
I think those are the changes I’d suggest.
Not bad but I think you should drop sinis for a ground type probably something like lando cause you currently do not have one. (No hazards either)
Additionally I would put balloon on gambit instead.
Thirdly, ace > moltres so you have some way to deter opposing hazards.
Cinderace @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Libero
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Fire
Jolly Nature
- Pyro Ball
- U-turn
- Sucker punch
- Court Change
uh
whats crazy is
these are the exact changes i made
in the team i sent after this
LOL
ty
wanted to know smth tho
im running tera fire id zam with stone edge for the birds
that ok?
after using it
i dont like it much
zam feels too weak
Nah you gotta use it with future sight accordingly but I get why some don’t like it
Some been running ice fang for gliscor
so i swapped weavile for specs iron crown, which allows me to outspeed all suicide leads except for deoxys S and 2hko garg/gliscor and break alot of SPD walls. which in turn means im not getting slammed by faires (that was happening)
I dont know if I wanna swap out Hat since its my only REAL fariry type and since Kyurem is so prevalent in meta and im not running like specs dnite i need some way to pressure it
I am open to trying the zama set tho
Keep Tera fire on gambit
ok
Bulky is serviceable but I don’t like it much personally these days
Yeah I forgot kyu is back
Sigh
Yeah crown sounds interesting
Well if you ever need anymore help I’m here
ty
do we think swapping a spinner for hat is the move
maybe like tidyup maushold
im actually thinking weezing G
cuz I wanna play something a little goofy
i actually think its good into gliscor too cuz it turns off poision heal
https://pokepast.es/aab966d707b2b2ed updated paste
Ice fang zama > edge for glisc.
Probably offensive ace with gunk > weeze
Roost dnite might be better here too
Cinderace @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Libero
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Fire
Jolly Nature
- Pyro Ball
- U-turn
- Gunk shot
- Court Change
Yup perfect!
Me thinks this should be 3 attacks roar zama
Lowkey I was thinking that but wasn’t sure lmfao
Could honestly drop heavy slam since all the stuff it hits are covered by iron crow / ace
So cc edge fang roar?
Roar feels good for bypassing sub/protect on kyu and gliscor
Or any sub/protext stall
What’s the updated team rn
https://pokepast.es/efe5a5b46472c21a
I love talonflame, my favorite low tier mon frfr, now I think talon is viable on stall, am I cooking?
Yeah drop heavy slam

honestly, good start
not really sure what talonflame does here since you're stacking boots anyways but its the thought that counts ig
besides that, i would run pex over clod for better mus into wake + another regen mon, drop sludge bomb on amonguss for clear smog (maybe toxic for giga drain), eq over poison jab on lgiscor for the heatran mu, and maybey avalanche on dozo instead of waterfall for the tuant rmoon mu
still dont really know why talonflame but ig you dont have to run another knock absorber now
ok took in teh notes; now wondering if Iron Crown would be better for this team in GKings place?
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what set would u use on iron crown
prob AV w volt switch in there
and tachydon or w.e they are called the double hit move lol
future sight in there
why dont u like Glowking
I am not sure, I feel like he doesnt really add much or hit really hard
im a big fan of Alomomola
for special D?
listening...however what lol
I use AV
Alomomola @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 20 HP / 236 Def / 252 SpD
Tera Type: Fairy
Sassy Nature
- Flip Turn
- Scald
- Play Rough
- Mirror Coat
ohh
what is mirror coat again?
Like I know it reflects damage but how does it work exactly
oh so I would jsut need to take a special hit
and will totally sponge more than GKing
you can tank a thunderbolt/clap from raging bolt
yes
and its OHKO
can also tera fairy play rough
if they have like roaring moon
i play it like its wish fish
i dont show anything other than flip turn until i get a matchup I like
wish and flip turn and attack and switch?
then i mirror coat and hope for the best
hmm interesting
252+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Alomomola: 812-956 (152 - 179%) -- guaranteed OHKO
vs
252+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 20 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Alomomola: 332-392 (69.7 - 82.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
also id go boots great tusk
and rocky helmet corviknight
but thats me
thats your prefrence
you are running hazard/terrain removal on tusk
just makes more sense to be able to swtich and not take damage to clear hazards
corviknight is kinda just a preference thing
to me ur not running brave bird so u dont need leftovers
Just a reminder to please not give advice if you aren’t experienced in the tier
I will warn that AV mola opens you up to a lot of bad mus to the likes of Kyurem and Bolt
please enlighten me then
dont report me 2 days later tho if I hurt ur feels ok!
???
What about wish mola?
Anyways Serg I wouldn’t run Mola
Ohh
Then it lacks the special bulk to take on those threats
I had Gking in there before
his issue is he doesnt like how gking feels
Ok well you kinda have to deal with it
Gking just has the most versatility for this team
Crown is workable but I wouldn’t recommend it
Mola is ass for this team
How would u play Gking?
Defensive pivot
FS,S bomb, chilly, toxic
Switch in, either toxic or chilly out
switch in wot
Future sight if you can though I would t go for it often
Special attackers lol
u know what u did btw but the past is the past
No idea what you’re talking about but aight
oh nvm
Yes chilly future toxic sludge
3 days after our last interaction I was magically timed out for a few days
leftoers is best option?
Yes lefties is best
ok
M8 I’m not in charge of moderation
If you broke the server rules that’s on you
lol
O wait no
unlucky coincidence then and you totally didnt tell anyone
Don’t run lefties oops
Run boots
You can experiment with it later since you do have double removal
But for now I would stick with boots to be safe
I’m going to be honest I do not remember you dude
Btw I would run close combat over psyshock on val
Just for that nice mixed coverage
- it does the same task of slamming spdef walls
Maybe run knock off over destiny bond but dbond cheese can work sometimes
First time got into 1400 elo with this team, any suggestions for improvement?
why mirror coat?
run knock/taunt over mirror coat, heavy slam over iron head on zama + run the suggested ev spread for iron defense, same with iron moth, and run tera dark on gambit over tera ghost
I use it to one shot Iron Valiant
doesnt psycho boost do the same anyways?
No
I ran dark tera on Gambit before it never worked out for me, I use ghost to avoid close combat
Ah noted
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5 boots is wild
Yeah that’s kinda how it is in sv ou
Note this isn’t a full rate but one thing that stands out is your lack of knock absorber + knock off user
No point in having hazards if your opponents can just run boots for free, while suffering from your own boots being knocked with no way to deal with it
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Probably? The lack of breaker sucks tho
Get a hazard removal or blocker idk
This is hstack
fair
The whole point is stacking boots
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https://pokepast.es/a6bcdf809f8e5e3a
tried to make poltea screens work, however i feel like the team is grass weak and moth weak, help is appreciated
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if ur gonna run polteageist just commit to the do or die sweep
like I prefer stored power on that set over strength sap
while yeah sap gives you more longevity stored power is just very strong
also enables you to beat unaware mons
otherwise ig a couple things
why is alo ninetales snowscape
just run blizzard
and otherwise idrt primarina or treads are doing much for you here
I'd say run kyurem to exploit snow and then something in the last slot to not get bodied by fairies
someone send me a balance team to rate
please don't rate if you aren't experienced in the tier
https://pokepast.es/8faf866b29197b73 So I built a stall team a couple of nights earlier. Now it is time for a stallbreakers team. Any advice would be appreciated.
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ground types cook you
why go offensive heatran and use spdef set
also tran isnt very good
for hoopa teams, i like this one
https://pokepast.es/47baf7e4cc351f61
pretty decent breaking prowess
lokix cleans, hoopa breaks
lokix is good into HO too, which hoopa... not so much
pult is decent at breaking ig? it has coverage and we have fsight support
Hoopa-Unbound @ Assault Vest
Ability: Magician
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 248 HP / 44 Atk / 40 Def / 20 SpA / 156 Spe
Lonely Nature
- Knock Off
- Psychic Noise
- Drain Punch
- Thunderbolt
this hoopa set might be worth a mention
its crazy that lokix has the same viability as heatran now
prolly better
@lost sandal Made a couple changes, what do you think? https://pokepast.es/ceb31675ece03e6c
It's strong as hell, nothing truly walls it except corv
silver powder is also some funny tech to bait weak mons when u first impression, then sucker and KO
heatran sucks so much dooky its sad
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hey, so I've been trying to make a hazard stack balance team, but i am struggling with pivoting and dealing damage rn
used to run meowscarada instead of weavile
and I also I'm not sure what to do with the 6th slot
rn I've got kyurem but i feel like I'm lacking offense
why did u change it
to get priority
Iron val kind of rolls lokix up and smokes him
That's true
https://pokepast.es/b4aff08d50fbf1a4
yo i really like subtect kyurem
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I wanna make this team around it
Maybe rilla is good here for even more recovery??
Also I am using this for a tour outside of smogon
But the format is just regular SV OU
No abitrary restrictions
oh does tinted lens only work on 2x resist
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tinted lens doubles the damage dealt on not very effective moves, so 4x resists will still be 2x resists accounting tinted lens.
ohhhh
ok
bump
hows this hstack team btw
any glaring weakness
resto chesto is funi lol
made it boots sam
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tried making another hazard stack team
this one feels better than the one I posted yesterday
but i feel like i struggle a lot against set up
and I'm not sure what to change
before i had whirlwind on skarm
but then kingambit can fuck over
and hatterene still fucks me up
Why not turn off your brain and rid yourself of all this thinking and just play Hyper Offence?
I plateau'd at 1300s, then i picked up HO, I'm 1500s now and only going up, and I don't feel like I've learned anything new.
I already did that
with HO, stall and reg bulky balance
i reached 1700 using sample teams of all 3
now I wanna make my own team
I changed skarm for special gliscor for raging bolt
and glowking for alomomola
I can respect that.
Can I steal I mean borrow your team for a while lol
Currently on this, copied it off of blimax and it's performing wonderfully.
I have to push to 1500 from start to prove someone that hyper offense is Brainrot
Technically not HO, but i treat it like one, and it works still
Why the hell is great tusk running roar
It has come up much more than I'd like, trust
I've roar'd Zama trying to idef, dozo trying to curse, gambit trying to sucker(tusk was low on health)
Isn't rapid spin better for tusk?
You have cinderace
And tusk has booster for speed
Yea but there's situations where I might give opps the veil up
Maybe I'm just dunb
Thanks for the team
Don't make examples out of exceptions, it'll only ruin things, something i learned irl
🫂
any glaring weaknesses with this team? https://pokepast.es/23bfe5a81675df00
This is singles
When testing my team i found it hard to deal with heatran despite having both kyurem with earth power and gear tusk
How do i deal with that
i am
https://pokepast.es/0d1a96c7734a2f72
are there any major issues with my rain team?
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some of these set dont relaly work + zapdos and drednaw aren't relaly good on rain
zapdos just doesn't have the power nor speed to keep up as an offensive threat, especally on rain when you have the much much better option in raging bolt
drednaw is just ass in ou
skewda is great but you really dont want to run life orb since you want to avoid as much chip as possible + banded is better anywyas since banded liquidation 2hkos most non-phys def resists anyways, though if you want to run versatility you can do mystical water instead (though i don't recommend it)
125 spa modest with full ivs and evs with stab and 110 power moves isnt powerful? i thought it was pretty good
unfortunately, no
mostly because bolt is literlaly better zapdos
sure you dont have the longevity but you have way stronger offensive potential + better options to deal with threats that outspeed you
as for your last mon, i would recommend something that checks waterpon like mixed dnite with hurricane or overqwil, though if you're confident in your ability to handle waterpon you can throw on another sweeper like greninja or even thundurus
i think ill go with overqwil. thundurus isnt bad but i dont rly like playing him
thank you very much
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