https://pokepast.es/da69f87c3aaccda3
i dunno if im doing something wrong but here's the team again
#[DO NOT USE][ARCHIVED] SV OU Rates
delicate pike
spiral fable
what is chomp doing here
bro is not part of the team
seriously though im not sure whats up with these evs but please go back to the standard sets for them, im not sure why tspikes are on moth when it dsperately needs every move it can get but dont, if you're running terta blast bolt run fairy not water, not a fan of tusk here just doesn't have the firepower, and chomp is ass
weak vortex
Depends on the structure of the team all out attacking zama likes to abuse future sight. This makes you a bit more immediately threatening. This set is better into scor teams asw.
dapper imp
aight
didnt u recommend to use ironpress on my previous even tho i had fs gking?
my prev team*
ebon ember
https://pokepast.es/b734e51328527b38 i don't get why i am falling? I had a team then changed it but the new team isn't good too
dapper imp
what can i do about clefable?
i initially use moonlight + knock off but i found it had poor synergy with slowking g
ruby crest
tinkaton
ruby crest
ye..
you still have the rocks knock utility from a fairy and now u have a steel type as well!
dapper imp
hdb or leftovers?
Tinkaton @ Leftovers
Ability: Mold Breaker
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 24 SpD / 232 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Gigaton Hammer
- Encore
- Knock Off
I'm just giving it this moveset
ebon ember
Just saying
dapper imp
tinkaton appreciates the passive recovery from my experience of it
ebon ember
The thing runs it in an analysis?
Also you might be boot spam Judging on item and the lack of hazard control
ebon ember
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Sorry if i come up as impatient but any feedback on my team? I just don't like waiting for multiple
Days
spiral fable
dude its been 30 minutes chill
this is just standard bulky offense
you might want like idk val over zamazenta or something if you find yourself struggling with dpult and opposing val but i really dont see wahts the issue with this team
o and drop boots on gambit idk why boots is there
spiral fable
the standard set is
Tinkaton @ Air Balloon
Ability: Pickpocket
EVs: 252 HP / 24 SpD / 232 Spe
Tera Type: Water
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Gigaton Hammer
- Encore
- Thunder Wave
tender pecan
I like how it runs pickpocket despite having knock off
tbf mold breaker doesn't help you out too much, except for bullying hatt, if thats what you wanna use it for then thats better ig
tender pecan
https://pokepast.es/56f0ef5d9ac70beb
this one?
dapper imp
tender pecan
ah sick
dapper imp
replaced clef with tink
tender pecan
this is pretty solid, I don't build balance very often tho
tender pecan
molt can be dealt with by raging bolt but zapdos is a little more dicey, it can't do much to you at least but the rest of your team doesn't appreciate it too much, especially pon
luckily it also doesn't do much to stuff like Lu and Gliscor
so it would just be a game of chicken
tender pecan
pretty much
you'd have to do the same to waterpon
since ting lu and glisc are not fans of it
playing around those MUs shouldn't be too bad
like there are a couple but every team has a couple worse MUs, like cinderace here could be annoying with le court change but you'll just have to get around that
dapper imp
its pretty much impossible to deal with everything smoothly this gen
considering its gen9
dapper imp
could i build a hazard stack team with gold tho?
tender pecan
if they let bolt setup well then they're in for a rough time
tender pecan
ghold very much does work on hazard stack yes
it is ghold afterall
blocks every form of hazard removal except magic bounce hatt and court change
the former of which does not want anything to do with gholdengo and is often forced to tera fire
dapper imp
yea i was just scared of it getting smoked by tusk once its balloon pops
tender pecan
tusk can actually be a lil problematic here
cause only grasspon deals with it reasonably well and even then ice spinner is a problem
not sure how you'd patch that up tho
dapper imp
maybe i can try pairing it with something like zapdos?
dapper imp
ground immunity and punished spinner with paralysis
tender pecan
mhm
alternatively molt punishes with burn and is neutral to ice
maaaybe over glowking
both are pretty specially defensive and although glowking is defo more splashable molt does solve that glaring weakness, and also has a way to punish physical attackers too
which can be nice
dapper imp
molt can help with the fairy weakness i feel like
tender pecan
that too
dapper imp
ik i got tink but tink cant do much by itself
tender pecan
tink does pretty much scare every fairy in the tier for the most part
hatt could try and read the switch with mysical fire and enam can earth power once balloon goes
but thats it
molt does give that extra net
even with a mediocre attack stat gigaton hammer is scary
dapper imp
how does this look now
i might switch tink back to clef cuz of overlapping steel type
but i got molt to cover fire mons
ruby crest
Ngl Gholdengo should lowkey be zama
dapper imp
but no spinblocker 😦
and zama isnt as switchable in my experience
like it gets worn down quickly
ruby crest
Cause my biggest worried by this team is getting farmed by gambit, zama is normal to get worn down tho you also gotta know how to preserve zama and what you should be switching zama appropriately
Even then the team also lacks efficient speed control oger on its own is something I wouldn’t over rely on as ur speed control
dapper imp
i dont think its possible to put speed control like in an offense team tho
iron val/moth dont fit and i dont have enough room in my team for pult
ruby crest
Normally these type of balances would have something like zama or pult
dapper imp
Ironpress or aaa?
tender pecan
i dont think its possible to put speed control like in an offense team tho
you did have speed control with raging bolt tbf
spiral fable
youve gotten sugestions like three seperate times man
dapper imp
alright ill cool it off then
just that i keep finding holes in my team and its a pain in the ass to try figuring out how i can patch them by myself
spiral fable
if you keep finding holes in the team after getting suggesitons three seperate times there might be a deeper fundemental issue with the team
tender pecan
I do think some of the changes you made weren't strictly necessary
dapper imp
ill just build standard balance for my team then
my bulky hazard stack teams turn out to be too passive for my liking for some reason
spiral fable
@versed jewel ?
cloud gull
https://pokepast.es/645a114760342c0c
yo ngl bro that team looks good
try pivot pult over ghold and fast sd faacade knock protect scor over slow sd
ocean pumice
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lost sandal
bet, tyty, would u rec stone edge over ice fang tho or ice fang over stone edge on this team?
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bet, tyty, would u rec stone edge over ice fang tho or ice fang over stone edge ...
It depends what you wanna hit stone edge helps vs zapdos and moltres while ice fang helps vs gliscor
lost sandal
It depends what you wanna hit stone edge helps vs zapdos and moltres while ice f...
yeah
i think ill go stone edge tbh
and expert belt
ruby crest
I wouldn’t advise ebelt much cause being worn down by hazards isn’t ideal when using zama
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spiral fable
why booster treads?
you're running a one time use item on what seems to be bulky balance
especially since its your hazard remover
also you have no knock absorber which is a big issue, ogerpon doens't really fit well here since your hazard removal is poor
your defensive core is frail with garg easily getting overwhelmed, but your offensive core isn't that good as well since its entirely walled by zamazenta
acutlaly this team gets 6-0ed by zamazenta with stone edge
weary crypt
what should I change then
spiral fable
what team style were you going for here?
weary crypt
balance
weary crypt
yea i had treads on there just to compress rocks and spin onto one guy. originally had tusk for hazard removal and rocks on garg but I wanted to make garg curse and spin + rocks on tusk is kinda bad
spiral fable
whats wrong with rocks on gagr
weary crypt
just cant fit on curse sets
spiral fable
why do you have to run curse?/
weary crypt
and it doesnt need to be curse I guess but i was just having a lot of games where I was like damn if this was curse garg I could just send it out and win instantly
spiral fable
in this meta full of encore users/phasers im not sure curse is very good
hm
you definitely need a waterpon check
spiral fable
but your garg is also curse
so what hapepns most of the time is just
garg curses on something, ogerpon comes in, forces garg out
o also you can't switch in
weary crypt
no because then i just burn tera and salt cure ogerpon and it fries waterpon
spiral fable
+2 252 Atk Wellspring Mask Ogerpon-Wellspring Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 52 Def Tera Dragon Garganacl: 340-402 (84.1 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
if garg is your waterpon check you can't switch in on sd playrough sets
weary crypt
play rough plus SD is a non existent set
spiral fable
well its the main set so
spiral fable
trailblaze is so fake lmao
idk what elo you're at but playrough saw 30% usage last month so
its definitley a set you need to factor in
- its the main option on sd sets on the dex anyways
weary crypt
what do you think of AV hydrapple for waterpon
spiral fable
no
weary crypt
what do you suggest then
spiral fable
either sinsitcha or dragapult
yeah screw it lets just go hazard stack
rocks garg, slot on sinistcha, slot on skarmory
weary crypt
youre evil i like it
spiral fable
ah but then you have two birds
hm
definitely bring rocks garg and sinistcha
you just needs spikes from... somwhere
honestly not sure if moltres is really necessary here
weary crypt
yeah if i have physdef sinischa not really
spiral fable
if you swap moltres out for skarm that's your hazards + knock absorber
you have a knocker in weawvile
so you really just need a special attacker to round out this team
btw make sinsitcha cm
weary crypt
CM val with tbolt coverage?
spiral fable
nah
weary crypt
thats another thing i noticed testing its really rough against rain
spiral fable
you want a more utility one
since you already have a breaker in weavile
usually i would say darkrai but well you've got weavile
spiral fable
thats another thing i noticed testing its really rough against rain
you shouldnt be losing to rain with sinistcha + tera skarm
spiral fable
o yeah gking
gking as your spdef pivot
so the current squad is gking skarm sinistcha garg weavile
weary crypt
still have gambit on it too
weary crypt
yeah but gambit can just cheese out games so I like it still lol
spiral fable
ig you can run that, but then id make weavile 4 attack
weary crypt
team does have no removal now is that fine
dapper imp
doesnt darkrai destroy this team?
i cant see anything being able to switch into its attacks
maybe garg but i think its still taking a good chunk of dmg
round kernel
Need some assistance with this team im not planning to switch any mons out unless extremely necessary
I struggle into ogerpon mostly
quick bluff
yeah thats why garg is tera dragon
ftr if this is ur main goal grass garg does better in this role
worse in a lot of other mus but
cool for pon specifically
grave ginkgo
https://pokepast.es/a3fdf30b78fe0280
a kinda bo team
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tender pecan
everything seems fine except for raging bolt
that set does give me confusion damage
not too sure why molt is roar, you're only running rocks phasing won't be super strong, so drop its roar for u turn and then make raging bolt cm
lowkey
dapper imp
i think roar is still useful
shuts down setup and booster energy sweepers
you lack immediate power though give pult specs/band
offensive utility tusk is a better set for this team imo
thunder wave is a fake move on raging bolt give it cm booster energy
weary crypt
No keep it as boots and make it CM thunderclap volt switch taunt
spiral fable
roar is pretty useful on moltres
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/a3fdf30b78fe0280
a *kinda* bo team
this is a really weird bo team because you're a little too bulky with not enough offens
not really sure what moltres brings for this team considering you already have zamazenta + pult technically if you want to run wisp on that
not a fan of tusk either, especially since you stack boots anyways so
tusk is just kinda useless
just swap them out for lando-t and gking/iron crown (im a bigger fan of gking tho)
o yeah ddarts over draco on pult (you might want to make it wisp over twave if you're running gking) and they were right about swapping the set for bolt, though i would honestly recommend running the specs set for a breaker
tender pecan
roar is pretty useful on moltres
it is useful but I suggested U turn so you keep the same number of pivots and actually make bolt a useful set rather than volt switch twave stuff
for BO this defo needs more of the O part
the molt set in general was a bit too passive anyway but hurricane on molt is not, fun
surreal rose
spiral fable
LOL rip bozo
quick bluff
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Ripbozo
dapper imp
What happened?
dull plume
A bomb exploded
tepid glacier
i used to play this kyurem balanced team with gliscor, kingambit, slowking, skarmory, dragpult, and lastly kyurem. The whole team had boots and was really nice because i could play defensively while having some offesnive options
does anyone have a team like that i could borrow
i liked more defensive teams
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Hatterene seems like an overlap with corviknight and primarina
What were you using that spot for specifically?
summer ocean
its just there from when the team had skarm instead of corv
i just dont know what to replace it with
its been occasionally okay so i just left it
weak vortex
I should mention blaziken is more offensive team oriented Mon
static knot
https://pokepast.es/c7c3427de453973e hows this look for my first build of this gen
dull plume
You should probably use sample teams
As someone who doesn’t really know SV OU this team fundamentally kind of doesn’t make sense
I don’t think webs should be the first team you build for any metagame unless if it’s absurdly broken
Because it’s pretty gimmicky, so you have less margin of error in building a good team
I also don’t know why you built webs + 4 speed control mons and a gargancl
Point of webs is to enable slow, powerful threats and give them more opportunities to have an impact on the game
Most of these mons are too fast (I assume the spread on Roaring Moon gives it + Speed Booster energy, once again, I am not familiar with SV OU) to really benefit greatly from webs
static knot
I see
dull plume
Garg on the other hand is too passive to gain much from webs
You also can’t really spinblock
In a tier where I believe spin is pretty common
static knot
https://pokepast.es/9024d2c3ed409ffc is this a better web team or should I js look up sample teams
shi I gave corv avest
changing that rn
spiral fable
you should probably just look up sample teams
static knot
ill go do that
spiral fable
none of these are good webs abusers and smeargle isn't a good webs setter
weary crypt
https://pokepast.es/9024d2c3ed409ffc is this a better web team or should I js lo...
I think its better but still probably a samples moment- if you want to still try building though one piece of advice is that you're making it too much of a balance team, webs is usually like the webs setter and 5 setup threats
But yeah if you don't know the meta at all you should use sample teams at first this goes for anyone playing any meta really
spiral fable
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tender pecan
none of these are good webs abusers and smeargle isn't a good webs setter
smeargle isn't a good anything rn, god bless
thin gorge
https://pokepast.es/2a4f422495c87d5a can someone rate my team
I still havent decided on what I want to put on ting lu, so if you could help with that that would be great as well
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grave ginkgo
https://pokepast.es/0f28d12f4326c6c9
Made this azumarill hazard stack
weak vortex
https://pokepast.es/596750c9de73b88e
Seems really solid I would probably give glowking toxic and make sinischa the poison tera type to at least resist fighting to 1v1 stuff like zama still.
weak vortex
https://pokepast.es/8bf46402f281df4f
Why is it double rocks
I would also make gambit balloon tera fire your team gets punished heavily by moltres proc burn
The roaring moon should be tera flying but I would probably give it taunt > eq to help vs fatter matchups.
Azumarill is better suited for webs if you run it. While it may be at the fringe of viability given its ranking (C) that’s proof it’s not a Mon that’s really flexible and needs lots of support to make it work.
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charred moat
Azumarill is better suited for webs if you run it. While it may be at the fring...
I use bee for paralyze too
weak vortex
Balloon ghold is also good on webs also make sure you are running the ghost or steel tera type on ribombee
It depends whether you wanna block removal from spin or mortal spin.
weak vortex
Not really that simple because even if you tera there are things like dragonite that still resist. However you can open it up to win in the right conditions. But that’s more a convo for #comp-general
Lando prob can be something else too if you don’t make it swords dance or something
hearty notch
Seems really solid I would probably give glowking toxic and make sinischa the po...
Not my team, could you check mine please?
weak vortex
Sorry mix up
weak vortex
Seems really solid I would probably give glowking toxic and make sinischa the po...
@thin gorge
weak vortex
https://pokepast.es/596750c9de73b88e
Are you going for hyper offense or bulky offense just wanted to clarify
hearty notch
Are you going for hyper offense or bulky offense just wanted to clarify
Idk what I'm going for really
I think bulky I don't like hyper offense that much
charred moat
Yeah give me a bit imma get to it just say what you were gonna say
Can dm you?
spiral fable
wildfire will get to your teams when they ahve the time
weak vortex
https://pokepast.es/596750c9de73b88e
I think here you can make your king gambit max ada speed with black glasses tera dark.
Kingambit @ Black Glasses
Ability: Supreme Overlord
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Dark
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Sucker Punch
- Kowtow Cleave
- Iron Head
Make prim standard av
Primarina @ Assault Vest
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Modest Nature
- Surf
- Moonblast
- Flip Turn
- Psychic Noise
Roaring moon can be speed control like specs or band pult.
Moth can be cinderace
Cinderace @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Libero
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Tera Type: Fire
Jolly Nature
- Pyro Ball
- U-turn
- Sucker Punch
- Court Change
(You can run gunk shot or high jump kick over sucker punch) personally I like gunk as you punish primarina switch ins and you can 1v1 moltres with pyro into gunk.
Ghold can probably be another water resistance like raging bolt to not get stomped by ogerpon wellspring.
bitter trout
weary crypt
Not how it works bud
junior harness
does anyone have a team like that i could borrow
you cant, kyurem has been ejected from OU
quick bluff
you cant, kyurem has been ejected from OU
admittedly this is the wrong channel but they said like that which i would assume to mean a similar build without kyurem
dull plume
1600s you’re probably out of meme territory and 1750+ is usually decent
For current Gen OU
visual rock
Does anyone have the Pokepast for this team
zenith prairie
https://pokepast.es/e8cfa05692e486b3 never really played balance before, biggest thing ive noticed is this team gets stomped by any special attacker with ground coverage
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charred moat
Does anyone have the Pokepast for this team
I winned this team while ago
junior harness
https://pokepast.es/e8cfa05692e486b3 never really played balance before, biggest...
you also get kind if of owned by waterpon, since your only "check" is drag
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/e8cfa05692e486b3 never really played balance before, biggest...
im actually surprised you're losing to spattackers with ground coverage
zenith prairie
That too, just didn't think about it cause I haven't faced any
spiral fable
ting lu should be the catch all for basically every single spattacker
zenith prairie
ting lu should be the catch all for basically every single spattacker
Should be
Key word
spiral fable
anyways, dozo is way too passive for this team
not a big fan of ghold here either
i would replace dozo with sinistcha for a waterpon check + spin blocker (use the calm mind set)
swap gliscor over to physical as well, that should cover most physical threats
alternatively, you can make gliscor sd
zenith prairie
Losing dozo makes me worried about gambit
spiral fable
you shouldn't be losing to gambit with gliscor + tera sinistcha + pult
actually, hm
this team kinda lacks breaking power then + gambit doesnt like switching in often
- you dont really have a lot of pivots
uh
zenith prairie
not a big fan of ghold here either
What would be better in its place?
spiral fable
i was thinking gking + ting lu + gliscor but then your phys def is scuffed
man this feels so close to being a good balance team but i feel like i have to mmake a lot of changes for this
zenith prairie
i was thinking gking + ting lu + gliscor but then your phys def is scuffed
I switched gliscor over to physical like you mentioned earlier
spiral fable
for general tips, ting lu + gliscor aren't a very good spdef core since they overlap in a lot of weaknesses
yeah but then you have an awkward core of gliscor ghold that doesnt like tusk
spiral fable
i was thinking something like gliscor + zamazenta phys def core with pult being swapped out for a spattacker and maybe dropping gambit as well
zenith prairie
I can just run special pult if that works
spiral fable
but atp its just a completely different team
zenith prairie
What attacker would be better than pult
spiral fable
ill just leave it with some general tips then, dozo is too passive for this team, ghold can work but your physical defense core is awkward so maybe look into slotting in a metal bird (skarm for spikes so maybe you can drop gliscor?)
tyson im lost in thes auce
zenith prairie
I'll test it out a bit
spiral fable
Yeah sorry I couldn’t help more
zenith prairie
Only changes currently
Calm mind sinistcha over dozo
Spdef gliscor->def gliscor
zenith prairie
Oh yeah and put Draco on pult
spiral fable
Nah keep mixed
zenith prairie
Alr
ruby crest
tyson im lost in thes auce
Hmm
errant sapphire
b
Omg finally can type here
Anyway
https://pokepast.es/c46396771b9c4547 thoughts
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errant sapphire
I know serp aint the best but i really wanted to make it work
tender pecan
i'd make val shadow ball over aura sphere so gholdengo doesn't hard wall you
errant sapphire
i'd make val shadow ball over aura sphere so gholdengo doesn't hard wall you
Doesnt gambit oof gholdengo here
And dragapult if you wanna be risky
Which i think you could on ho
tender pecan
I mean yeah but thats not the point
booster val doesn't wanna be forced out
cause then its lowkey not that good
you trade damage for making sure nothing forces you out
also ddance pult is
well
not amazing
its perfectly usable but phantom force is such an annoying click when kingambit is so common
which is why its usually tera ghost tera blast
its a mon where the power rather than the coverage is the selling point because pult has a very barren physical movepool, thats not an issue in of itself if you can set it up for success but the issue comes with you also having serp which is equally as lacking in coverage if not moreso
errant sapphire
booster val doesn't wanna be forced out
Hyper offense generally doesnt want to be forced out
tender pecan
hence why shadow ball
errant sapphire
But i feel fine with making sure gholdengo is dead before i send out val
tender pecan
so ghold doesn't force you to waste booster for nothing
errant sapphire
Val is my only fighting coverage in the whole team rn
tender pecan
yeah I noticed that
hmmm
it is up to you, but if I was making this I'd slot offensive great tusk somewhere if you rly want fighting coverage
errant sapphire
Im still devastaded by the fact val doesnt have plot 😔
errant sapphire
also sd val is more common on HO ftr
I really wanted fairy coverage too and using spirit break is
tender pecan
but if you do that I'd drop pult for a special attacker
spirit break mid as hell yes but its doing more than aura sphere after a +2 rather than a +1
errant sapphire
Hm
tender pecan
coupled with the fact that val has higher physical attack then special
I'm just tryna build around serp rn ngl
cause it needs a lot of support around it due to it having a mild case of mid
errant sapphire
Aight i could make val physical but then what do i switch pult for
tender pecan
waterpon is fine but it does fill serps main stab option and also fills water
maybe darkrai or iron moth
iron moth might be preferred since you have kingambit already
it also gives you poison and fire coverage
this team is generally ok, structurally its perfect its just trying to get rid of your worst matchups
errant sapphire
Sorry i know i shouldnt but i try to build it with pokemon i like 😭
But thx for advice anyway imma screw around a bit with it later
tender pecan
Sorry i know i shouldnt but i try to build it with pokemon i like 😭
fair enough like you can make serp work
but I usually see running it as not worth your time, albeit there's a reason its ranked on the VR
its not unviable, just outclassed
errant sapphire
Fair
crimson ferry
This team any good?
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sinful vessel
Trying to make an OU team with no legendary Pokémon, fairly new to this
tender pecan
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sinful vessel
~~also this team isn't good at all~~
I would assume I don’t know meta or comp strats
thin gorge
Are you going for hyper offense or bulky offense just wanted to clarify
sry, i wanted bo
dull plume
I would assume I don’t know meta or comp strats
You also shouldn’t really post teams here unless if they’re actually serious and tested teams for OU
sinful vessel
That’s why I’m posting? To make a serious team, like I said I’m newer to competitive/ try to climb the ladder and wanted help
dull plume
Raters typically don’t like rating teams otherwise since a lot of issues can be spotted just by playing games and that could save them a bit of time in their day to day lives
sinful vessel
Ok I guess
dull plume
And as nocturne nugget stated, raters typically aren’t going to be super willing to go out of their way to rate a team with arbitrary restrictions
spiral fable
It’s just making our lives difficult for no reason because you’re asking us to rate a team for a completely different metagame
OU without legendaries is a wildly different landscape that none of us could possibly know
karmic lake
OU without legendaries is a wildly different landscape that none of us could pos...
its super duper easy smh... just create an entire tier which mirrors OU, but ban every legendary. then run the tier for months just so that people can know the meta and raters can help with this one arbitrary restriction /s (if you cant tell)
crimson ferry
its super duper easy smh... just create an entire tier which mirrors OU, but ban...
What would be the point of that
Like genuinely
Making a tier to accommodate to the one specific person who wants to play in OU without legendaries AND no prior meta knowledge
karmic lake
hey, mind if you read that last bit again?
crimson ferry
I read through it.
karmic lake
theres this little bit at the very end
its called a tone indicator
a tone indicator tells people the intent of the message sent, which can be hard to pick up on without audio cues
crimson ferry
Good thing we use /j instead of /s
karmic lake
/s and /j arent carbon copies of eachother
crimson ferry
Okay sarcasm I get it
karmic lake
yep
but going back to your comment, it was a jab at the fact that whenever i lurk, quite a few people tend to actually talk about a svou team with no legends. enough that its almost a regular occurence
crimson ferry
but going back to your comment, it was a jab at the fact that whenever i lurk, q...
I feel like if ppl are gonna restrict themselves that way, they should atleast build some meta knowledge first 😭
And it's pretty obvious raters aren't gonna pay attention to the arbitrary restrictions
elfin rover
https://pokepast.es/1210e3dc1868ac68
I wanted to make a team around Moltres-G, is this any good? I'm currently playing at 14xx ladder
errant sapphire
Trying to make an OU team with no legendary Pokémon, fairly new to this
Uhhhhhh
I am not in any way a rater but what is this team even going for
Seems all over the place
Also some pokemon choices here are interesting to say the least
Even without legendaries you could probably make a way more viable team
(Sorry if i wasnt allowed to say that or something)
spiral fable
We don’t help with teams with arbitrary restrictions
errant sapphire
aight sorry then
solemn laurel
thoughts on this rain team
https://pokepast.es/08d78dc674b590c3
weary crypt
thoughts on this rain team
https://pokepast.es/08d78dc674b590c3
Draigonite should probably be another rain abuder
weary crypt
https://pokepast.es/1210e3dc1868ac68
I wanted to make a team around Moltres-G, i...
I'd say either go full rain and remove most of these guys or just make it screens HO
Lead grim + 5 setup sweepers and one of them can be moltres g, its not that good but can cheese out wins under screens
solemn laurel
Draigonite should probably be another rain abuder
what do u suggest?
crimson ferry
Yo what are some good hyper offensive cores?
ionic lotus
Yo what are some good hyper offensive cores?
Triple dark (Roaring moon, kingambit, darkrai) with a suicide lead is solid.
lost sandal
https://pokepast.es/e82ce8366a6712a2
im not very happy with how this turned out honestly
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lost sandal
i wanted to use a sd gliscor + sinistcha core
but i had no idea how to make it
i ended up on this and i honestly dont think its too great
if anyone has an sd gliscor + sinistcha team, please send it to me lol
tender pecan
your tcha set is really bizzare ngl
strength sap and foul play have negative synergy
and hex without that much status spreading just isn't a great idea
spiral fable
??
thats a standard set lol
strength sap and foul play have really good synergy, actually, since it helps deal with sd users that can boost past sap
tender pecan
I suppose
spiral fable
its the lesser used of the two main sinistcha sets, for sure
tender pecan
regardless hex would be better if you had more status spreaders
spiral fable
but definitely still viable
though yes you are right about hex
in general i dont think defensive sinistcha is viable outside of stall imma be hoenst
(by defensive sinistcha i mean the set not the mon)
calm mind is just better in so many ways
tender pecan
ye was gonna say cm here seems better
spiral fable
also heatran is shit
lost sandal
ah
spiral fable
just absolute trash
lost sandal
ok
tender pecan
especially paired with sd glisc this leans towards BO
lost sandal
regardless hex would be better if you had more status spreaders
im using it cuz flamebody tran
spiral fable
cool idea, doesn't work in practice + what are you even flame bodying
lost sandal
just absolute trash
the only reason im using it is for the fairy resistances it provides
spiral fable
like think about the physical attackers of the tier
lost sandal
like think about the physical attackers of the tier
gambit
spiral fable
you get crumpled by low kick
lost sandal
dnite
tender pecan
molt deals with gambit just fine too
tender pecan
dnite runs eq 😭
spiral fable
eq
lost sandal
fair enough
spiral fable
trust me, heatran is not him
tender pecan
heatran when some of the best mons in the tier are ground type
spiral fable
why not gking?
tender pecan
ye use molt
its the best direct replacement
and isn't weak to ground
and also has flame body can spread status has pivoting and also does decent damage etc etc
molt does have a special attack stat of 125 its stabs hit reasonably hard
spiral fable
not a big fan of primarina here either
lost sandal
not a big fan of primarina here either
neither am i
spiral fable
imo balance really needs eithergking or ting lu
preferably both but you can get away with only one
lost sandal
imo balance really needs eithergking or ting lu
ting is a good idea
and glokwing too
lost sandal
return to zapkinglu
i just wanted to use a sinistcha and gliscor team + i dont have a zapkinglu team
spiral fable
ok seriously though you could make a core of like ting lu gking skarm sinistcha gliscor
lost sandal
😔
lost sandal
ok seriously though you could make a core of like ting lu gking skarm sinistcha ...
oh
huh
why skarm tho
spiral fable
maybe another spikes setter but i like skarm for opposing gliscor mu
lost sandal
ok seriously though you could make a core of like ting lu gking skarm sinistcha ...
i dont see zapdos
spiral fable
you dont need zapdos
- if you want to squeeze in sinsitcha and gliscor you gotta bend a little
lost sandal
yeah
spiral fable
this team theoretically matches up well into the vast majority oft he metagame
you just need a strong offensive mon to round it out
darkrai, perhaps
pult is another option, or zamazenta
lost sandal
sadly though, there arent that many great spikes setter besides frail pokemon like meow ogerpon and gren
spiral fable
do not be sad about that be very happy about that
spiral fable
anyways ther'es your new team to be frank im not sure the current one can really be salvaged theres just too much jank
lost sandal
anyways ther'es your new team to be frank im not sure the current one can really...
yeah, i believe so too
spiral fable
if you want to run zama honestly 4 attack would probably be better
if darkrai, you could mess aronud with np + 3 attack or utility + 3 attack or knock + 3 attack
lost sandal
i think ill go rai here, not sure which set tho
lost sandal
if darkrai, you could mess aronud with np + 3 attack or utility + 3 attack or kn...
oh okay
spiral fable
knock doubles up with gliscor to help force hazard chip, np is standard breaker, wisp is a pain in the ass
all valid options, see which one fits best
lost sandal
knock doubles up with gliscor to help force hazard chip, np is standard breaker,...
ive seen scarf trick wisp sets being run
spiral fable
your offenses are theoretically a little weak
lost sandal
which is kinda crazy
lost sandal
yeah i am
probably will go knock
does skarm run whirlwind counter in this gen or iron defense
spiral fable
not whirlwind counter lol
its a mix between bp id, or bp whirlwind, or brave bird whirlwind, or brave bird iron defense
since you already have ting lu you theoretiaclly don tneed another phaser
lost sandal
https://pokepast.es/e7741a07471e7615
this is what you suggested
spiral fable
so bp id/bb id should be best, though if you find yourself struggling to deal with certain spattackers bp whilrwind is fine
lost sandal
since you already have ting lu you theoretiaclly don tneed another phaser
yes indeed, very sad ting doesnt get knock
lost sandal
uh lefties ting lu
i dont have a fogger, are you sure thats wise?
spiral fable
yes
grave ginkgo
https://pokepast.es/0fd38fd3a1d3cee2
i tested this team and loved it omg
grave ginkgo
https://pokepast.es/0fd38fd3a1d3cee2
i tested this team and loved it omg
maybe some slight flaws and weaknesses but still yk
grave ginkgo
maybe some slight flaws and weaknesses but still yk
maybe not slight
tender pecan
The vicious cycle of teambuilding in one image
Jokes aside
Yeah this is
Webs
But very odd
No clue why tink is here it contributes nothing and doesn't exploit webs in any meaningful way drop it for another sweeper
Make ghold nasty plot rather than hex, you're not really spreading much status so hex isn't that great, just go for raw damage
I'd also make kingambit max speed
You have low kick you might as well ensure you outspeed all other kingambit, including boots kingambit, plus lowkey 44 even with webs ain't outspeeding much
Scarf Hamurott isn't so bad here but I think you have better options
I'd swap hamu for booster roaring moon, I'd say the ddance taunt set, it's pretty fast plus with booster and you keep knock, and as for azu, while it's not unviable imo knock Ogerpon would be better overall, as it doesn't blank into the bulky waters
Although you can keep hamu, it gives you more hazard pressure
It's up to you
grave ginkgo
I'd swap hamu for booster roaring moon, I'd say the ddance taunt set, it's prett...
ogerw, ogerc or regular oger?
grave ginkgo
No clue why tink is here it contributes nothing and doesn't exploit webs in any ...
also which sweeper? should it be manaphy, zama or others?
tender pecan
also which sweeper? should it be manaphy, zama or others?
You could try raging bolt
Webs help to patch up its somewhat middling speed tier
So you don't have to click thunderclap as often
crimson ferry
How we feeling?
ruby crest
How we feeling?
https://pokepast.es/7726da1463a40442
this aint bad, tho its also somehwat clashing cause it badly wants to be offense/ho team but also wants to be bo, unless u where trying to go for one or the other here
crimson ferry
this aint bad, tho its also somehwat clashing cause it badly wants to be offense...
I was lowkey just throwing mons on there. Ima try BO though, so aside from the 2 on my team alr, what are some good mons to use?
dapper imp
Ogerpon wellspring raging bolt great tusk
crimson ferry
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thin gorge
https://pokepast.es/61fd83f58fc79cc9 can someone please rate my spikestack
little radish
I need a team rate https://pokepast.es/e15eb6c5249ecaf8
And help
tender pecan
darkrai gambit roaring and zama are fine
wtf is bliss and dozo doing there
and even better why is bliss healer
like all other problems aside
healer does nothing in singles 😭
this nearly looks like the darkspam HO sample team when you take away bliss and dozo so I'd run that ngl
crimson ferry
wtf is bliss and dozo doing there
Looks exactly like my previous team lol
tender pecan
while I'm here I might as well give my two cents on ur team too
tender pecan
https://pokepast.es/1ec61c3d6cd7a424
well, this is an attempt at BO
but ironically this leans more to balance
there's not a lot of offence here
crimson ferry
Ight lemme make them more offensive
tender pecan
this would actually be a pretty ok balance team barring a couple things
but if ur going for BO I'd overhaul this
crimson ferry
Yeah I was trying bo
tender pecan
https://pokepast.es/61fd83f58fc79cc9 can someone please rate my spikestack
this looks solid, I'd maybe make moltres roar to rack up more hazard chip
other than that ye don't rly have much to say
balance isn't my forte
little radish
balance isn't my forte
Is this better? https://pokepast.es/f8b58903c0c35516
tender pecan
blissey is the problem here lmao
little radish
blissey is the problem here lmao
I needed a special tank
tender pecan
not rly
what team structure are you going for
because this looks like offence
and if so blissey has no place here
little radish
I mean yeah but one special attack shreds me. It's specifically for switch ins/sacks/status
tender pecan
if you really want a specially bulky attacker use hatterene
also the gliscor set is odd
I did link a sample team, I'd use that
it shares a few of the mons you already have
little radish
I did link a sample team, I'd use that
Bro's that's the samlle i modded
tender pecan
we don't rate modified samples
mostly because they're samples for a reason, most modifications to them don't make them much better
they usually do the opposite actually
they're also made by some of the best players and are hence built for this metagame
like when you send a modified sample the rate would be to just use the sample
little radish
It's old first of and all enamorus did nothing
tender pecan
its not old
this is from the most recent batch of samples
they're still pretty meta relevant
little radish
Oh
tender pecan
enam isn't on it
little radish
Wait how old is it
tender pecan
lol
little radish
Oh damn i thought it was the one i used
tender pecan
there's a new darkspam sample
little radish
The one i used is Old
little radish
Well im using this for a tour so i wanna avoid using samples
tender pecan
also enam on the old one was used as an emergency cleaner/healer for a sweeper that took too much chip
ah
tender pecan
well yes because blissey isn't here lol
little radish
Also the Ou room on PS ignores me 🥺
little radish
well yes because blissey isn't here lol
Lmao
tender pecan
like I cannot stress how much of a momentum sink blissey is
if ur going by the sample ur gonna run HO
or hyper offence
which forgoes any defensive backbone for maximum damage potential
best offence is a good defence type strat
regardless
this is nearly good, I'd change hatterene's set to draining kiss psychic and mystical fire
you can keep nuzzle but not over psychic
little radish
Okay
tender pecan
I wouldn't tho, hatt is already a bit dicey on HO, the idea of it is it blocks hazards while also being a pretty threatening sweeper
and the last change I'd make is dropping gliscor for a lead
like glimmora or deo-s
HO tends to have a dedicated lead mon
that gets sacked to set up hazards/screens
little radish
Ik but then they get rapid spun and i don't have hazards no more no?
tender pecan
yes but you can use that to your advantage
if they're forced to rapid spin you can just take another ko
or get more setup
little radish
Oh
tender pecan
you do wanna keep hazards up as long as possible tho, sometimes you just threaten to ko their rapid spinner before it could even get rid of the hazards
for instance you have a roaring moon, if kingambit comes in yes it could rapid spin, but it also gets bodied by acrobatics
little radish
Gambit gets spin?
tender pecan
or against darkrai who threatens it with ice beam
little radish
Also gambit resista acro
tender pecan
oh sorry tusk
tender pecan
I had an exam today my brain hella fried
little radish
Okay this? https://pokepast.es/8784944f3bf6840f
tender pecan
Okay this? https://pokepast.es/8784944f3bf6840f
yeah this is more like it, drop dark pulse on hatt for psychic, I'd maybe make glimmora mortal spin rather than spikes, and also earth power sludge wave rather than energy ball meteor beam
you can also make darkrai nasty plot
little radish
yeah this is more like it, drop dark pulse on hatt for psychic, I'd maybe make g...
But if it's there to sack then why would it spin?
Because it won't be alive for it
little radish
O
little radish
For other leads
Dude thank you so much you're amazing
spiral fable
O lol gl edo
For reference I’d drop hatterene for iron moth
Since your fairy MU is abysmal otherwise
Though hatt isn’t bad IG
You should also bring multiple teams since you’re playing bo3
And your opponent will probably cteam your style g2 if you win
little radish
And your opponent will probably cteam your style g2 if you win
You're the dude hosting the thing?
spiral fable
yep
spiral fable
lol ty, gl
little radish
Also do you want me to message u on Smogon or ps or discord if i have questions
spiral fable
uh discord preferably lol
little radish
Gotcha
quick bluff
also heatran is shit
faya only hates heatran because it traps and removes clod dont listen
spiral fable
if you're here to troll this isn't the channel
heatran is actual dogshit that cannot do either of its defensive duties and fails miserably as a wallbreaker
we banned every good fire type
want a flame body user? moltres
quick bluff
heatran does role compression well though
spiral fable
you get a mediocre rocker at the cost of having horrendous mus into basically everything
you want a contact punisher that can set rocks and annoy stall? just use clefable at that point
this mon is legitimately ass
and there is a reason it dropped to uu
quick bluff
and there is a reason it dropped to uu
like yeah not arguing it’s a peak mon or even a good one
just overhated imo
can definitely offset the drawbacks with team support and offers a lot of good traits asw
spiral fable
how is it overhated its not hated enough
quick bluff
probably the wrong channel for this discussion lowk if you want to continue this discussion we could go to compgen
but i def wasnt trolling i am being genuine
spiral fable
it is somehow a special defense wall that underperforms compared to the rest, a contact punsiher that loses to the threats its supposed to punish, and a rocker that gets outdone by every other rocker
its ass
past spruce
I already posted a link to the team in general comp room, but I wonder what the rest of you guys think of the Mamo team
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spiral fable
not a big fan of the waterpon mu
especially since you're running a defogger for your hazard removal, meaning its easier for waterpon to get in without taking significant chip damage
past spruce
I agree Waterpon can get in quite easily, but in my experience Raging Bolt + Zamazenta both seem like solid checks and deterrents to it so I haven’t had many problems on that end so far
Waterpon’s pretty hard for bulkier structures to check anyways, so I thought as long as I have that backbone for helping take it down then the Waterpon matchup is something I’ll leave be.
bitter quail
gm
bitter quail
So I took a few edits from here and some suggestions from WIldfire (I think youre the same person) lol. Let me know how this looks or if I missed anything - https://pokepast.es/913f28d177ebc665
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ionic lotus
https://pokepast.es/1398a9179c1d1412 Hey all, looking into building a PP SubStall team for OU. With the return of kyurem, it was something I wanted to try before it got banned and now have a chance to do so. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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spiral fable
ok so
the issue is you have umbreon and suicune on this team
which are... ass ngl
ionic lotus
the issue is you have umbreon and suicune on this team
Was not sure who I can go for here
I like both those mons, Suicune being another annoying substaller and umbreon being a decent wish passer
tender pecan
well they were fine in generations past
not in gen 9
Umbreon hasn't been OU since gen 4 and suicune has seen much better days
ionic lotus
Sun team chat
Hey cool sun team. I have something similar.
I would make Tusk's tera Steel. It really helps with Dnite and Roaring moon
Also Kyurem
And venusaur I'd give Earth Power
tender pecan
its not a very good sun team its missing a couple stuff
not sure why ceruledge is there
ionic lotus
not sure why ceruledge is there
Stronger bitter blades I guess
tender pecan
like the general idea is fine but
eject button hatterene is an autoinclude on sun in gen 9
helps with hazards and gives you an extra pivot when need be
ionic lotus
eject button hatterene is an autoinclude on sun in gen 9
True, I'd also swap edge for band moon
ionic lotus
the issue is you have umbreon and suicune on this team
Any suggestions of who else I can go for there?
tender pecan
there's enough sun sweepers here its fine
tender pecan
I like it more for pivoting
I'd drop it for slither wing then
fimp is cool yes but otherwise roaring just hits harder
ionic lotus
not in gen 9
Who can I go for instead of umbreon and suicune then?
tender pecan
cuz hatt is a must
ionic lotus
I'd drop it for slither wing then
Exactly the team I have. I'll post it
tender pecan
Who can I go for instead of umbreon and suicune then?
the team is a little odd in general, is this stall?
ionic lotus
the team is a little odd in general, is this stall?
I'm trying to go for a team similar to Blimax's Sub protect Kyurem
tender pecan
ah I see
ionic lotus
https://pokepast.es/ffd478f3095bb717
Hey there, if you want to peek over at my sun team for ideas have at it: https://pokepast.es/5ab0efbe8db4892b
spiral fable
that team isn't that good ngl
spiral fable
i understand wanting to share teams but please don't give advice if you aren't experienced in the tier
ionic lotus
that team isn't that good ngl
My sun team?
tender pecan
you take it faya if u want I'm not the best with sun teams
spiral fable
yes
banded rmoon is ass
mystic water wake is iffy but you can work around it ig
no idea whats up with the evs on hatt
or tusk, in that case either
ionic lotus
banded rmoon is ass
Who should I put there instead?
spiral fable
this sun team matches up extremely poorly into any fairy type
i think the best sun currently is probably some variant of srn sun
ionic lotus
no idea whats up with the evs on hatt
Wanted something bulky on both defences
spiral fable
its hatt yous witch it in twice and it dies
ionic lotus
i think the best sun currently is probably some variant of srn sun
What is SRN sun?
ionic lotus
its hatt yous witch it in twice and it dies
True
crimson ferry
How do I change my sun team for the better
tender pecan
heatran jumpscare
spiral fable
hatt on sun is too unsustainable imo
you sacc it for a one time hazard denial + switch and its rare you can bring it in safely to get th ehwish/nuzzle off
ionic lotus
you sacc it for a one time hazard denial + switch and its rare you can bring it ...
Glad I'm not the only one who has realized this
tender pecan
or has it fallen off a bit since I last built sun
spiral fable
you can definitely still run hatt on sun
but you need to learn hard into the offense
ionic lotus
nearly an auto include
It is, or it was
ionic lotus
I always run HO under sun so
I try to as well or aim for balance
tender pecan
when I run sun I accept the fact that I am there for a good time not a long time
it becomes apparent I'm gonna win or lose after 10 turns
anyway this isn't a convo for this channel
ionic lotus
Ok so I should get rid of hatt and moon, going for wing and heatran?
ionic lotus
if ur going for a more balanced playstyle
I'm for HO or Balance
I can try both styles out
Can I pick your brains about another team I've been testing?
tender pecan
uh sure
ah hazard stack
I'm not the best with balance
but this looks
fine
I'd make skarm brave bird whirlwind tho
ionic lotus
I feel it is weak to darkrai ghold and ogerpon
tender pecan
ogerpon for sure
ionic lotus
I know no team is perfect against all mons, but I'd tweak it any way I can to make it better
tender pecan
hmmm
I'd say zapdos is a solid answer but I wouldn't know where to put it
I'd wait for someone better than me ngl
ionic lotus
I'd wait for someone better than me ngl
Sure thing, do you know who I can talk to about hazard stack?
tender pecan
Someone will come along eventually
One of the raters
Or if I spot anyone I'll redirect them to this
ionic lotus
Or if I spot anyone I'll redirect them to this
Thanks, I do appreciate your help!
tender pecan
Yw
quick bluff
https://pokepast.es/c0c9873e13258337
agree about the skarm set and garg should def be lefties over boots
oh and gking should be tera water
lowk team doesnt seem super pon weak u got pult + zama + dragon skarm esp if you make it whirlwind
and ghold can be answered by scor or tera nacl
the one thing i am a little concerned about is the kyurem mu here but i think zama + garg + gking + skarm all act as checks into anything that’s not some random dd tera blast set
vocal osprey
https://pokepast.es/c6bb2f8837b41d5e - Pivot based Offense team
ionic lotus
agree about the skarm set and garg should def be lefties over boots
That tracks. Will no removal make it a problem for gargs sustain?
ionic lotus
oh and gking should be tera water
Made it Tera dark to combat darkrai and ghold better
ionic lotus
the one thing i am a little concerned about is the kyurem mu here but i think za...
Yeah, in this state, my team answers kyurem decently well
ionic lotus
Made it Tera dark to combat darkrai and ghold better
Unless I just go for ting lu instead
primal swan
https://pokepast.es/cee05d719c9015fb had this hstack/status spam what went well, just thinking what could be changed to help against kyurem matchups
lost sandal
https://pokepast.es/e229e4e577abe1a8
another glorious day post kyurem ban
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hasty dune
https://pokepast.es/8c98ddbf5449f299 dragon spam BO
quick bluff
That tracks. Will no removal make it a problem for gargs sustain?
lefties tect garg usually sustains itself enough with proper play
like it would appreciate removal but it’s not necessary
and especially on protect sets lefties >>> boots on garg
quick bluff
Made it Tera dark to combat darkrai and ghold better
your team already def handles gambit, and i think tera water also handles darkrai fine if all goes well
and you have pult and zama for krai asw
ionic lotus
https://pokepast.es/8c98ddbf5449f299 dragon spam BO
I'd put Glowking on the team to give pivots to your kyurem plus the snow defence boost.
Replace opergon with it
hasty dune
Alrighty
Would that make my team weaker to ground types?
That was my biggest concern
ionic lotus
Would that make my team weaker to ground types?
Yes, but unless you go a flying type, you're still weak anyways
hasty dune
Yeah true
ionic lotus
You could also go for corv
@quick bluff I will try out lefties garg. However, I'm going to keep Tera dark for now on glowking. I find if I let ghold or rai nasty Plot once and then Tera, it's curtains for my team
It will help to Tera it against them to stop some momentum
spiral fable
Reminder to please not give advice if you aren't experienced in the tier
quick bluff
<@715264179514114069> I will try out lefties garg. However, I'm going to keep Te...
you have krai answers and making gking tera dark doesnt fix the ghold mu
i think your ghold answer is always just either scor or tera garg depending on the set
and zama and pult rkill a chipped ghold as well
water is just much more appreciated on gking in general
but like do wyw
ionic lotus
water is just much more appreciated on gking in general
I will think it over.
Begs the question though, with Kyurem back in OU, is there another Tera that may work?
Or glowking bulky enough to handle Freeze drys?
quick bluff
Begs the question though, with Kyurem back in OU, is there another Tera that may...
steel might also work but then you're even worse into sun
lost sandal
https://pokepast.es/e229e4e577abe1a8
another glorious day post kyurem ban
part 2
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grave ginkgo
https://pokepast.es/7f60e5dfead1ebc9
when testing, I won all 3 games although its low ladder and people use arboliva but ok
i liked this team
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errant sapphire
https://pokepast.es/7f60e5dfead1ebc9
when testing, I won all 3 games although it...
||I don't think 3 games is enough to call a team viable||
To me it looks good except for the gking, id change it to like a glim lead
Though i am not a rater so wait for someone who is 👍
brave turtle
https://pokepast.es/7f60e5dfead1ebc9
when testing, I won all 3 games although it...
no hazard removal is rough with two sr weak mons, maybe drop pult for cinderace and replace moth with something like valiant or darkrai
zama is also a bit weird here its p solid w kyu but doesnt really fit the rest of the team
ionic lotus
steel might also work but then you're even worse into sun
Yeah not ideal. Although I do have Tera Water garg for wake
Venusaur does get better matchup tho
upper holly
https://pokepast.es/7f60e5dfead1ebc9
when testing, I won all 3 games although it...
very weak to hazards
ionic lotus
https://pokepast.es/7f60e5dfead1ebc9
when testing, I won all 3 games although it...
@grave ginkgo it's good, but a hazard stack team has its way with it. I'd recommend getting ridding of pult for Tusk or Treads
rain kernel
https://pokepast.es/ba03501ee675be4d
I could use help fixing the sets on this. Pretty standard BO but something feels off. I've been testing on ladder, but I always seem to come up just short. So I could use some ideas here.
Quick edit: As much as I love Darkrai, he's the one who I'm least certain about. If anyone gets swapped it'd be Rai for another special attacker probably.
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weak vortex
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I could use help fixing the sets on this....
Not bad but I I’d make a couple changes.
- Make zama the bulky iron defense set but I think leftovers is better than resto chests here do the pace of your team.
Zamazenta @ Leftovers
Ability: Dauntless Shield
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 Spe
Tera Type: Steel
Jolly Nature
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Crunch
- Roar
- I recommend running this lando set to have an easier time dealing with offensive utility tusk which is a bit annoying for your team.
Landorus-Therian @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe
Tera Type: Water
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earth Power
- U-turn
- Taunt
(You can do grass knot > taunt if you have trouble with set up variants of great tusk.)
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The gambit set is fine but if probably suggest lefties over lum.
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Make pult specs since you and have good speed control in darkrai I would recommend making modest to get maximum power out if it.
Those are the changes I suggest. Gl
spiral fable
god its been a while since ive seen chesto rest
rain kernel
I'm slightly reluctant to change Pult given she's been reliable but then again I may as well at least try it. If nothing else having an instant nuke might be a welcome addition. (It feels like this is what every Pult runs now, but maybe what I need isn't "standard")
Other 2 sets interest me. Maybe Roar Zama is what I need after all.
Bulky Lando sounds good to me.
k... I'll change the sets. Thanks @weak vortex
sorry just thinking out loud.
btw what tera on Pult?
that part is like I have no idea what I'm doing
spiral fable
ghost
quiet dawn
spiral fable
yes
weak vortex
that part is like I have no idea what I'm doing
All g don’t over think it you’ll get it
ruby crest
I think that’s what makes it fun cause it’s literally off meta stuff with like 2 different play styles clashing together it’s like balance / webs offense
spiral fable
objectively this team is bad subjectively its funny af
pliant raptor
I think that’s what makes it fun cause it’s literally off meta stuff with like 2...
just slapping random mons I like into 1 team
scarlet saddle
Just played my first few matches and found this random team on smogon. I know this'll sound dumb but who on earth is the lead
So far I've done some anti leads with things like encore or ddance.
spiral fable
this isn't the place to ask this here, but generally this team is... questionable at best im ngl
i would recommend you take a look at the samples if you're new to the game
!gen9ousamples
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Gen 9 OU Samples: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/3712513/
quaint swan
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pliant raptor
objectively this team is bad subjectively its funny af
i think bad is an actual understatement
this shit is TERRIBLE
scarlet saddle
this isn't the place to ask this here, but generally this team is... questionabl...
Oh my bad. Where should I ask questions like this? I thought this was an all encompassing ou team related channel.
dull plume
I think it’s moreso that you implied the team isn’t yours
ionic lotus
https://pokepast.es/007c13c9a9653705 New DD Kyurem Grassy Terrain Veil team I built. Is there something here or am I reaching?
viral sableBOT
New [Gen 9] OU RMT @ruby crest, @green citrus, @dusky kindle, @weak vortex. I won't notify you again for at least 6 hours.
pliant raptor
Oh my bad. Where should I ask questions like this? I thought this was an all enc...
#comp-general would probably give u a better answer
scarlet saddle
Thanks
spiral fable
https://pokepast.es/007c13c9a9653705 New DD Kyurem Grassy Terrain Veil team I bu...
good start, but a few don't make sense here:
Tusk can fit here but not as a spinner (plus its kinda overlapping with hatt already), if you want to run tusk run Bulk Up Booster Speed HLR (gterrain directly nerfs eq lol)
Honestly though, I would drop Tusk/Ghold entirely due to your poor mu into Cinderace, Iron Moth, and Steel types that would give Atales trouble, and run Manaphy instead, preferably Tail Glow but Double Dance works as well
I would drop Ghold
ionic lotus
I would drop Ghold
Keep Tusk, run Manaphy instead of ghold?
spiral fable
yes
ionic lotus
Is grassy seed blaziken or iron hands an option?
ionic lotus
good start, but a few don't make sense here:
Tusk can fit here but not as a spin...
Didn't notice I put EQ instead of HLR, lolll my bad
ionic lotus
Is grassy seed blaziken or iron hands an option?
@spiral fable
ionic lotus
well hands maybe but your team is already stretching it ngl
Aight aight, thought they could be considered. Thanks for the help!
hasty dune
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hasty dune
Trying out a DDance Kyurem set (having as much fun as I can before it gets banned)
ionic lotus
Trying out a DDance Kyurem set (having as much fun as I can before it gets banne...
Don't know if its just me, but wouldn't A-Ninetales be better instead of glowking?
Get instant def boost for kyurem + veil
hasty dune
A-Ninetails could be good, yeah. I was mainly using Glowking because of its defensive profile
ionic lotus
A-Ninetails could be good, yeah. I was mainly using Glowking because of its defe...
With Veil plus boost, it more than makes up for that IMO
hasty dune
Plus A-Ninetails is mainly good on HO teams
spiral fable
yeah this team is like 2 steps from ho anyways so
ionic lotus
yeah this team is like 2 steps from ho anyways so
What I was thinking as well