avatar-dynamics

[mighty trail]

but the others move fine

[timber saddle]

oh dang

[mighty trail]

not sure how that'll work if people interact with it though

if it does break with interactions, use a constraint

(but that's pc only)

[timber saddle]

i give zero fucks about quest

quest is just an attempt to get money from people with no money

[mighty trail]

meh you should, it makes you better at creating shit

jesus it seems like thatfatkidsmom is reading finger positions manually - lol no

[rustic wasp]

Quest kids too

[timber saddle]

yes. which use mommy's credit card to buy vrc+

which squicks me

[mellow hawk]

The amount of projects I've had to cut down to be quest compatible at all is kinds funny.
PC: cool animations, with grabbable props and built in systems.
Quest: look he's now holding a gun.

[torn tendon]

where can i find commissioned avis with gogoloco

[mellow hawk]

You can commission someone from the VRCTraders server in #community-servers-old

[cedar vine]

Does anyone have a good way of incrementing a parameter value by one every time a contact is triggered?

[barren bramble]

I finally fixed it by setting custom radius/height/rotation values for the colliders in the avatar descriptor, uploading, setting it back to automatic, and uploading again. I guess the SDK is funky about when it actually bothers with whatever steps it has to take to link that stuff with your avatar if you're constantly copying the same descriptor to a new imported .fbx over and over

[jolly crane]

you can use a parameter driver

[cedar vine]

I didn't realize there was a simple add on param drivers, thank you 🙃

Do you know of an easier way of controlling digits other than a motion time driven where I have to have a keyframe for every digit?

Is there a way to assign a param to a shader value?

[jolly crane]

use the Stats overlay section of the poiyomi shader

specifically the Numeric section

"Display value" is the float you animate

then you can set the amount of whole digits/decimals you want to show

[lone quartz]

I need help making ears move when you do a facial expression 🙁

[spiral pendant]

So I'm working on a Terminator model and it has bones for all the pistons. How does one make the bone/pistons compress and extend with movements?

[mellow hawk]

This video is blender, but a lot of the ideas will be roughly the same.
Parent constants or shader effects can replace the modifiers in blender
https://youtu.be/st84B470kLk

[chilly magnet]

I have a VRC Contact Receiver set up, and the parameter on it is changing from 0 to 1 correctly in the inspector, but then the matching parameter in the Animator window is just staying at 0

if I manually change the parameter in the Animator window from 0 to 1, the expected result plays out... but the change never makes it from the Contact Receiver to the Animator

(the animator is assigned to the FX playable layer)

[chilly magnet]

oh wow -- it works as long as the FX layer is set as the controller BEFORE entering play mode

[dapper pebble]

How does one pose a phys bone in unity? I can grab it, but I want to test posing.

[modern island]

Right click.

[dapper pebble]

Thanks

[fading pilot]

Disabling "Allow Grabbing" on a phys bones prevents everyone, including yourself, from being able to grab the bone, right?

[jolly crane]

yes

[dusty pollen]

can someone please tell me in the simplest way what all of these settings mean? i cannot figure them out for the life of myself

https://wolfhowl.became.gay/TJLwPgkYef.png

starting from forces and ending at collision

[wise hinge]

I can tell you what the slider settings mean but for the rest of them I am gonna have to tell you later

So the Pull Slider is how is puts the 'bone' back into its original position

in example if I were to grab like someones tail in VRChat

And I released

It reacts how slow or fast it comes back into the original position

The momentum slider I have no idea what that means god damn I dont even use it

the Stiffness is pretty simple it just make the tail harder to pull? I am not really sure but I think that is the use of it

the Gravity is like how much the tail drops to the ground

so if gravity is like 0.5 then the tail will have more weight to it (Like in real life) and will fall down

but if its -0.5 it will rise up with less weight/gravity to hang on to

the Gravity Falloff is out of my mind I dont even use it

same with Immobile idk what that is

The Grab Movement is how much you can move it when the tail is grabbed

and the Max Stretch is only used if you want something to stretch and it tells the system how much the object can be stretched

I have to go now so I can explain more later in dsm

dms*

cya!!

[dusty pollen]

okay, this is making much more sense when it is put like this. i appreciate it.

[wise hinge]

Yw

[wary onyx]

Hello, everyone here
I have a question, so I'm leaving here
When I use a small size of Content Receiver or Sender, the sync between the players is not right
Sometimes it doesn't seem to work for others
Is there a way to synchronize the parameter animation activated by Content Receiver?

[jolly crane]

put the same parameter in your expression parameters

[wary onyx]

Oh....is that it...?

[jolly crane]

just know that doing so will add a little bit of lag to it

yes

[wary onyx]

Oh

Oh my

Thanks so much dude

[jolly crane]

np

[upper raven]

Adding the parameter to your expression parameters wont do anything different, parameters used on contacts are already synced over the network

[little owl]

well, it doesn't need to be added to the expression parameters because it's synced by IK. If everybody sees the contact be touched, then everybody will see the parameter get set. But if it's small or you're in a situation where latency really matters, then different people may see different things, and so it could be inconsistent

so if it's really important that a thing be synced, then you may not want to rely on it to be synced by the IK touching contacts, you may want to force it to sync the parameter itself

[torn tendon]

So I have been having this problem with the contacts. I set up this squish effect with the contact/ receiver, and it works perfectly fine in unity, but when I upload it to vrc it doesn’t work. I can’t seem to figure out why it’s doing that

[mellow hawk]

You testing with the emulator?

because unity and vrc act vary differently

[torn tendon]

I’m testing body squish with the receivers

[mellow hawk]

Yes but are you using this plug in to help you test more accurately?
https://github.com/lyuma/Av3Emulator

[torn tendon]

Umm no

[upper raven]

you need it

It helps a lot

[torn tendon]

What dose it do?

[mellow hawk]

Unity can act completely different then how it acts in vrc. This narrows the gap.

[torn tendon]

Oh alright

[mellow hawk]

"works in unity" is almost meaning less with out the emulator.

[torn tendon]

So this will help me find the problem I’m having?

Right?

[mellow hawk]

More then likely it will stop working in unity, because it doesn't work in game.
But you can now use several tools in play mode to help debug why its not working.

[torn tendon]

Oh alright

I will look at it tomorrow

For the mean time I’m gonna keep looking for answers just in case

[mellow hawk]

Dose the pram update, dose the controller take the value, it is getting stuck somewhere, etc. Are way easer to debug with this tool

[torn tendon]

Alright

[fair galleon]

I've got a problem where some of my hair's physbones will clip into my torso between 2 colliders and just kinda stay there (it also happens when I'm going backwards but that fixes itself generally after I stop moving) does anyone know how to fix it?

[jolly crane]

try setting angle limits, and make sure your colliders are not set to Inside

[fair galleon]

they are not set to inside, before i try and redo all the hair limits are the colliders shown here normal or did i fuck up somehow? https://short.catboy.win/46h1528lq7

[torn tendon]

Is there a prefab for an interactable object on an avatar that doesn't flop around?

I'm trying to know how the "avatar prop" prefab from Github works but it keeps moving and rotating too much while it's in someone's hand and the angle of the contacts are always set for hand down even if I rotate a few things. I did read the documentation on Github. There's no info about rotating the prefab or prop.

[fair galleon]

... hold up all but the hips had bones as spheres on

i swear if this fixes it

im killing myself, thanks for the help Sacred!

[jolly crane]

@fair galleon you could probably just use 1 collider for the shoulders

one long capsule

[fair galleon]

wouldn't that get misaligned during animations?

[jolly crane]

not really, it would be parented to the chest

depending on how the shoulders are rigged, they shouldn't move up that much

you can just put the collider slightly higher to compensate

[fair galleon]

hmm true, I'll try that out after I add this neck collider rather then a long as head one, thanks

wait if I have 2 colliders on one bone and that bone is selected as a collision check in the physbone does it apply to both collisions or only one?

[jolly crane]

if you click on the gameobject with the physbone, you will see the gizmos for all of the colliders it will interact with as defined in the list

but my guess is that it will do both

[fair galleon]

alright thanks

It does seem to work tho i had to add it to one of my shoulders and set the root transform, thanks!

[wide wyvern]

Hey! My physbones allow people to move them and grab them in unity but in game even with interacting on they don't move or grab
Im not sure where the disconnect is because everything is enabled correctly
Anyone know how to fix this?

[mellow hawk]

Do they have a radius on them?

[timber saddle]

Oh hey. Artsy's old avatar

Back before artsy went full fem

[wide wyvern]

I did not oml haha that was a dumb mistake, thank you!

[summer abyss]

For rotating the prop you will want to rotate the actual object in the container to face the same way the sword does. I go over that in the installation video and I think the docs aswell. In regards to the object moving in someone’s hand im not sure what would be causing that without seeing it for myself as that’s not something that should be happening if someone is is not moving.

[fair galleon]

mhm! I have really been enjoying customizing it n shit

[torn tendon]

Thank you.

Can I move the reset position anywhere? like my left hand for example?

[summer abyss]

Yes

[torn tendon]

Okay thanks.

[fair galleon]

okay so I was thinking and now I'm curious, what is a usecase for "bones as spheres" on the physbone colliders? is it just more efficient or something?

[cunning spindle]

Question about _Stretch. How come the variable seems to skip from 0 to 0.2 something. Is there any way to make it count in the initial stretch that happens?

Its an extremely simple set up.

it works fine after that point, but that deadzone is extremely frustrating

[upper raven]

I think they did that so the stretch by just moving the bone wouldnt pick up

[boreal void]

My physbones are glitching out

[mellow hawk]

Kinda reminds me of what happens when you have a rotated transform

[wise hinge]

I do need to ask. Can you use a tracker for a prop in vrchat? Because that's just cool god damm

[jolly crane]

I use a tracker for my drink, it's possible. it's very janky though and needs setup

[wise hinge]

Yeah it seems like a hard process. But God damn that's cool

[wise hinge]

LOL

[modern island]

technologically advanced alcoholic

[wise hinge]

When I'm 21 I am 100% doing that

[modern island]

just attach it to any cup for now 😄

[wise hinge]

Yes

Hm

Beer- eh no

WATER

Aw

[modern island]

i've thought about making a specific cup just for use with tracking in VR

[wise hinge]

I'm planning on making a post apocalyptic avatar

[modern island]

i don't have a tracker spare to use for it, so I've thought about buying retroreflective strips and just writing my own basic tracking system using visible light but I'm still trying to figure out if that's worth doing

[wise hinge]

With a couple guns, a pipe for melee and some other featured

[wise hinge]

Ooo ok ok

[modern island]

(the answer is - it's absolutely not worth doing, but it would be highly fun)

[wise hinge]

Sounds like a pain to me

[vital shore]

It's a total pain

[pale hatch]

Can you animate the Radius size of Phys Bones

using something like a radial shift later on

i simply need to find out because of the hairlenght of a model

[torn tendon]

I don't use a vive tracker, no. I'm just using a cool script for my mug that ThatFatKidsMom wrote called "avatar prop" that other players can pick up.

[jolly crane]

only if you disable and reenable the physbone

[mellow hawk]

You officially have too many trackers lol

[jolly crane]

I have 10 lol

8 for FBT, one for my drink, one spare (will prob put it on my quest)

or my chair

we'll see

[smoky wind]

Hey so i'm trying to do this tutorial https://youtu.be/LOZu6e8ozns
I am attempting to do the animation, but when I click record and then try to check the box to enable animation and sound it changes the animation to an empty one as soon as I click both of them, so I can't animate the checkbox the way that is shown in the video

Srry it's a noob question about animation but I cannot for the life of me figure out why it won't stay in record mode and why it shows a seperate animation immediately when I click it.

[upper raven]

because whatever you're clicking on has an animator with an animation on it

when recording something for an animation always lock it

[smoky wind]

Thank you so much @upper raven

[upper raven]

np

[timber saddle]

how the fuck

What do you do, just have a drink on your avatar with a disconnected bone, and the tracker grabs that and moves it?

[wise hinge]

I have no idea how to do it

but its 'cool'

[jolly crane]

OSC, animations, and math

you don't sacrifice any tracking points

but it's kinda jank lol

[torn tendon]

Savage. I like your thinking.

[frail flax]

Hi, I am having an issue with an avatar, it's from CM3D2 and I have noticed it is a common problem with models from CM3D2, the bones in the chest aren't correct, if I put a phys bone on it, it will sway or be grabbed in the wrong direction. (ie. if I am moving left, so things should sway right, but they sway left instead, and same with being touched they move in the wrong direction.) Is there an easyish fix for this? like a physbone setting or just like.. turning the bones around in blender?

[full niche]

LMAO

[upper raven]

dont put physbones on humanoid bones

[frail flax]

Then what do I use in it's place to get the results I want...?

[upper raven]

you shouldnt put the physbones on humanoid bones, put it instead on empty objects, empty bones or on the object you want it to be itself

Putting physbones on humanoid bones makes them lock up

[boreal void]

Is it possible to disallow posing for just one hand, I have something on my right and only want the left hand to be able to pose it.

[gaunt merlin]

physbones not working?

i wanted to give him a bendy stretchy face but for some reason its all stiff in game

does anyone know why

i dont know why it does not work, i never managed to get a psybone to work for some reason. i got told today it was because i did not add the collider and now i did and i shaped the spheres as the size of the bones but for some reason it still does not work

it also stiffened his facial expressions

since these were bone animations

[brisk minnow]

anyone have something i can use as a template for skirt physbone settings?

[kind current]

Hello, I need some help, I have a new avatar, and I play on PC (No VR) id like to add this "Limb Control" to my arms on this avatar... anyone know how I could do this?

[halcyon vault]

You have multi child set to ignore and it has like 20 child bones

[urban ingot]

Nice Usopp

[elder lion]

i need help with physbones

for my fluffy hair ears also my bandana is going threw my body it didnt do that before

[gaunt merlin]

But for example i only want these certain bones to move and im scared that if i do they will grab even the friggin teeth out not the lips and they are single bones i dont know how children work

[gaunt merlin]

Its g O d uSoPp

About the other circles i added them because i wanted 6 certain bones on the lips but they are single except the facebone but if i set it to the facebone it deataches from the skull and its extremely messed up

These are the colliders of the parts i want to move

[flat rover]

i'm working on something and i want to test this in unity. Used to be able to move the phys bones in unity game mode. but this doesnt work any more. Any one know why ?

[simple elk]

set any radius on physbone (0 wont work) , go in game mode, click'n drag

[inner fulcrum]

So I'm trying to get a physbone collider (plane) to stick to the root of the avatar to act as a floor collider, I have seen in tutorials how this collider is supposed to stay "attached" to the floor as the avatar moves around but it seems to be stuck to the mesh of the avatar no matter where I attach the collider. Can anyone advise on how to fix this issue?

[mellow hawk]

You need to parent it to the root of the avatar. So it would look like this:

Mine is parented to an empty obj because I like organization. But you can just have to be parented right to the root.

[inner fulcrum]

Bet! Worked like a charm! Thankyou

[wide harbor]

i have nothing in these slots, yet my tutorials show there are supposed to be trees I can edit for animations

what do I need to do to edit my expressions menus?

[tidal pier]

sdk 3?

[halcyon vault]

The expressions menu slots are a bit further down in the sdk. If there isn't one assigned you'll need to create one.

[wide harbor]

so I feel like I'm really close to tackling this animation beast, when I go into the avatar all the menus pop up with the right names however selecting the options doesnt activate the animations, the avatar just doesnt do anything,, what am I missing?

[ionic crater]

Uhmmm hai, i've been having some troubles... It appears that the latest SDK version I installed... does not have VRChat Phys bone components...

Anyone here knows what's up...?

[halcyon vault]

looks like an old sdk

[ionic crater]

but i imported the latest version.. :<

[halcyon vault]

Pop open your console, clear it in the top left, any errors remain?

[ionic crater]

welll...

[jolly crane]

that is a third party tool, remove it and see if it clears up

delete the whole folder for it

[ionic crater]

which tool...?

@jolly crane ^^

I also don't think it has anything to do with some of the components of SDK3 not showing up...

[halcyon vault]

compile errors can stop entire scripts from running

[rose lantern]

It does, its causing a compilation error which can and will break everything

[ionic crater]

Okayy...

[rose lantern]

you could also see if the author has an updated version

[ionic crater]

Also... do anyone of you here know how to un-install a previous version...?

[jolly crane]

VRCAvatars3Tools is not a part of the SDK

delete that entire folder

and then import the newer one, but only if you actually need it

and only after making sure the SDK works

[ionic crater]

Okayy...

[simple elk]

means that script is old and wont work with current sdk , you need to update it or remove that script

[ionic crater]

Okayy...

I uhm.. can't seem to delete it

[halcyon vault]

VRCAvatar3Tools?

[ionic crater]

O i found a fix :)

Processed the avi in a separate unity project with an older VRC sdk

and then just copied the assets folder over X3

I think iz work now...

[ionic crater]

Uhm guys.. :c

I has problems...

^^Logs... won't let met build and test... what's wrong..?

[halcyon vault]

ngl, this is just telling us there were compile errors present in the project when you went to build. Also, #avatar-help

[wide harbor]

anyone experienced with adding animations to avis ale to figure out why I just get a hald second little kick and the animation resets with every animation I select

[wide harbor]

anyone have an exported file of an expressions menu with a good amount of animations I can just plop into my avatar?

the menu and action tree

2$ to anyone who can give me one that works, thats a free mcChicken

[ionic crater]

o.. okayy..

[halcyon vault]

#avatar-search-old

[unkempt timber]

I know I fixed it a while ago just forgot to delete that one

[brittle lava]

quick question, is this new? i've been uploading just fine with 12 physbone components, but only just now being told anything above 8 is prevented from upload. <':

[lone cypress]

Yeah I heard they changed the limits, sorry :/

[brittle lava]

delicious, thanks.

[halcyon vault]

uploading for Quest?

[brittle lava]

non.

[halcyon vault]

That's a Quest upload warning so your sdk thinks otherwise

[brittle lava]

🫠

never uploaded a quest avatar before, so not sure why it'd think that.

is my sdk breaking? lmfao

[grave sigil]

Somewhere around that text in the SDK there is a button that says something like ,,Switch build target to Windows/Android"

It switches between uploading for Quest and PC :P

Try that

[brittle lava]

I never even touched it, so it should just be pc.

I can't try it atm but I will another time

[clever echo]

Tongue stick out animation looks fine until physbones are enabled. I want to put an end to this annoying problem Advice?

[halcyon vault]

I'm not sure if you can animate the position of the root bone. Maybe if you put the phys bone starting 1 bone down in the chain it'll work?

[fair sundial]

Make sure you have "isAnimated" checked at the bottom of the physbones component

Maybe that'll help?

[hard vine]

Hey, Anyone has an idea on how to add an animation that only plays when you look at a specific direction or when a specific game object is visible?

[upper raven]

Render.isVisible

[compact cove]

Really silly thing - currently creating animations to change Physbone settings (one with gravity enabled, one with gravity disabled).
When going between them with a Blend Tree nothing happens, however if I open up the "Gizmos" tab in the Physbones component it'll suddenly update and snap to where it should be (i.e. if I have the blend tree half-on it'll snap to gravity 0.5, if I have it full it'll snap to gravity 1, etc...)

Seems to be an Editor bug, and it does what it should, but does anyone know if it'll still work in-game or not due to the weirdness?

(And for reference: I do have "Is Animated" enabled, in case anyone asks)

[wise hinge]

Maybe try uploading and checking if it does work

[compact cove]

-that's a fair point, better to check rather than ask huh lol

[wise hinge]

Yeah but it's still good to ask

[compact cove]

Welp, can confirm: uploaded and the animations do NOT work... drat

[mellow hawk]

Are these two different physbone script or are they just settings in the clip

[short fjord]

Hello! my transforms for my ears and tail to move on my avatar when I make an angry facial gesture doesn't seem to work. My faces do, but my tail and ears won't move. I can't seem to find a video tutorial with my issue.

[halcyon vault]

Animating settings in phys bone script is not officially supported. A jank way around this requires you to disable and re-enable the script for the settings change to take affect

[grave sigil]

Check the ,,Is animated" checkbox at the bottom of the physbone component, should be ticked :P

[cedar hill]

i'm having an issue where default hand and fingers are not activating a contact receiver; i have it flagged for hand and fingers, but it won't work with in game hands or fingers, while it will work with a custom contact sender that is flagged as hands or fingers.

i've had receivers like that working before on other projects, and i'm fairly sure my settings are fine too. any input on what might be going wrong?

[compact cove]

Oh, huh… pity, but yee alright, will see if that works well enough for me

[short fjord]

Thank you!

[brittle lava]

do believe i fixed that error of saying i had "too many physbones" despite never touching the option to use quest. simply did a clean re-install of the vrc SDK.

[lethal tendon]

What does "Local Only" on the Contact Receiver exactly mean?
A) Will only run for the wearer/owner of the avatar
B) Will only run for them, which triggers the contact

[simple elk]

ON = you run it, whatever you change other sees (off is local for everyone that 'runs' it)

So a randomizer behaves wierd if its off since they do the roll on their side

Have an afk randomizer wich i forgot to do that with so the afk animation was different for whoever looked at it

[lethal tendon]

Thank you!

[torn tendon]

This is kinda avatar help related but also physbone related so
Is there any way to make a toggle to turn off certain physbone for a object? I have all the objects merged into the base model, so they're not separate meshes, but I wanna make a toggle for my characters scarf so it hides in the body, but then the physbones are still on and it causes issues. So is there any way to just turn off the scarf physbones?

[shadow steppe]

hey

so i've been trying some sender receiver shoes, where by proximity they should change emmisiveness. i am not sure what i am doing wrong. it translate the data in the receiver. but it is not sending that data to the FX. i have another one that works just fine using the same method. not sure if i am missing something

[trim citrus]

there is! when animating the toggle for it (on and off state) click the record button. once you're recording the actions in the heirarchy, go to the game object with the physbone script. toggle it off using the check mark and then stop recording and uncheck the Preview box. then record again for the on state and make a toggle per usual!

(i think i said this right, if its confusing dm me and ill help ASAP!)

[torn tendon]

Like toggle the component to the side?

I might have to hit you up at some point

[mellow hawk]

Yeah if the comp is not there, it can't do anything.

[trim citrus]

^-^ feel free to

[clever echo]

I'll try

[clever echo]

I did this and it looks a little better but still broken

[clever echo]

I sete it to the 3rd bone. This helped some but still broken

[rugged quiver]

is there any good settings for phys bones

[steel thistle]

Depends on what you're making

[rugged quiver]

can i send you a dm

[steel thistle]

Do you need to?

Better keep it public if there isn't any reason for it

[mellow hawk]

@rugged quiver check this reply, has two images attached. One for base settings and one so you can understand what the sliders do visually.
There is never a one click fix for everything but this should help get what you want.

[rugged quiver]

mainly for body physics like hair, tail, butt and breast

[mellow hawk]

One of the things in that basic setting is hair. It is something to get a feel for by playing around with it

[rugged quiver]

the breast clip through the clothes and i don't want that to happen but i still want to jiggle

[steel thistle]

That's a different issue, not related to physbone value.

[mellow hawk]

Use limits to stop clipping.

[steel thistle]

It's likely either you have different chest bone for body and cloth, and physbone being applied to differently.
Or weight paint on cloth doesn't match with the body

[rugged quiver]

is there a way to see what bone the clothes was weight painted on

[gray vector]

the slingshot wont stretch

and cant be grabbed for some reason

I am getting so confused I have the exact same settings on one of my other avatars and they work but this one doesnt

the stretch part is ste to 5 but it doesnt stretch

set

[gray vector]

for some reason when they move the nose of my character( yes it has a physbone as a meme) it moves the zipper on the hat they both got physbones but they have their respective root bone it wont stretch the bone just wont stretch when I drag it and it has pull 1 and rest on 0 and max stretch on 5 and max grab on 0.5

[wheat carbon]

Does anyone know what this does?

[simple elk]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/physbones , its for moving bones/gameobjects/hair/tails ectectect

[wheat carbon]

Oh okay that's basically if you wanna have it so that all of your components on your "main" bone and just set the proper roots like that.

[torpid spindle]

Dumb questions:

1. What is the graph that pulls up underneath nearly all the physbone constraints after press C on the right hand side. I'm not sure if they have a name for it.

2. is there any way to zoom out past 1.000 on the graph editor? Can't seem to edit beyond that...

[gray vector]

hey so

my stretching physbones work on quest but they wont work on pc

i have collision and a raidus

and grabable on

but they wont stretch and stretching is on 5

[swift sentinel]

Is it about that desync thing with having more/different physbones on PC vs Quest?

[gray vector]

idk but the stretching physbones dont work

on the slingshot

on pc

but i have the exact same physbone on quest

[jolly crane]

that's the curve editor. it's used if you want to change the value depending on the position along the bone chain

example: bigger radius at the start, and smaller on the end

[torpid spindle]

Thank you and is there any way to get past 1.000 on the curve editor?

[jolly crane]

you should just set the slider to 1 and then specify the values using the curve

[torpid spindle]

So overall it's trial and error on values greater than one?

[jolly crane]

the curve is essentially just multiplying the value that you set on the slider

if your curve has some point at 0.5, then that part of the bone chain will have 50% the value you set on the slider

so if the slider was already 0.5, now the value is 0.25

but if your slider is set to 1, 0.5 on the curve means the actual value is also 0.5

[torpid spindle]

I understand the explanation and that does help, but for example going over 1 since from what I can see that it is possible to exceed the graph itself at 1 as shown in the post above.

as you can see the point on the left hand side is complete gone and I can't edit it without setting it to a default/pre done graph in the curve editor.

[prime spoke]

it wont let me interact with my phis bones. like grabbing my avatars hair.

[mellow hawk]

has a radius on them?

[prime spoke]

?

[mellow hawk]

Physbones are not interactable unless the radius value is more then 0.0 on the script

[prime spoke]

they worked before, just today they stopped working

[mellow hawk]

That is the only thing that turns it off besides in game interactions.

[prime spoke]

also when i open my quick menu it highlights al the text and makes it hard to read.

[polar dew]

With physbones, are the "end points" also given physics or is it required to add an extra end point to each bone for it to work properly?

[mellow hawk]

The endpoints are used if your only have object chain of less then 3.
Otherwise they act about the same as any other bone.

[polar dew]

ty ❤️

[undone magnet]

I have a question about the {parameter}_Stretch on physbones. when im pulling the bone in an attempt to stretch it, its jumping from 0.0 to 0.7, even when i have the max stretch as 5. If i make it any lower, the stretch value doesnt change. Is there something that im missing? because i really need it to go from 0.0 to 1.0, not from 0.7 to 1

it seems i can go around this by adding extra parent bones, but i would prefer not to be adding unnecessary bones to it

[jolly crane]

not too sure what's going on there, but you can always re-map the float

you can animate the value of other floats an an animator

https://hai-vr.notion.site/Avatars-3-0-Animated-Animator-Parameters-and-Smoothing-f128c71dd3184c2bb61a4cff8296ada5

refer to "AAP - Remapping a value from [0, 1] to [X, Y]"

[austere timber]

Hello, Im a game Dev with Blender experience, but not unity (let alone VRC addons). I'm looking on some tutorial material to have an object on my avatar act as a pick up item. Its a simple sphere to use as a crystal ball, but i don't expect the process to be so simple.
I have till the 13th to get the functionality working so even if i need to read a thick pdf manual i will!
Please help? 🙂

[short narwhal]

do you need the object to be pick up over by other people or just yourself

[austere timber]

Other people! you caught why i could not ask my less experienced friends.

[short narwhal]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-dynamics you'd probably need to look into Avatar Dynamics stuff as far as like physics bones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTTnWUkswkU

as other people can grab your physics bones

[austere timber]

Thank you! This should help me refine my inevitable questions on solving development hiccups.

[short narwhal]

as far as how to get it to behave like a object you just dropped in World space and something attached to an invisible leash probably something involving constraints but I'm not quite sure

[summer abyss]

https://twitter.com/ThatFatKidsMom/status/1535760101155299329

ThatFatKidsMom (@ThatFatKidsMom)

Create avatar props that other players can grab, rotate, and drop in the world. Prefab available for free on booth and github. #VRChat

https://t.co/UJibycmNS3
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[short narwhal]

I was looking for that but I couldn't remember what it was called

[finite forum]

I'm trying to make an animation where I grab a physbone and stretch it, and when I stretch it, it turns on a mesh and plays an animation. The animation and interactions with the physbone works, and I can see it in a mirror, but I can't see it in my own hands. Anyone know why that would be? :P

The mesh is attached to the physbone as well. So when I move the physbone the mesh the animation turned on moves with it. (Have yet to test how another user sees this)

[prime spoke]

All my avatars phis bones won’t let me grab them but it worked a few days ago and when I open my quick access menu all the text is highlighted until I hover over it. Dose anyone know how to solve one of these problems?

[restive ruin]

hello, does anyone have any tutorials on Contact Toggles?

[mellow hawk]

Contact toggles work like a normal toggle, except they will always go back to 0.
Meaning we have to use empty clips to hold it for a sec, and we have to sync it up for late joiners. So it may need a bit of knowledge about how the state machine works.
If you just want a quick tldr read this post: #avatar-help message
Otherwise lmk and I can walk you though it a bit more.

[restive ruin]

That would be really appreciated

[finite forum]

Is there a way beyond using the menus in game to reset a single phys bone position or all of them, like in an animation? Toggling it off and on seems to break it. (nevermind, found a way)

[austere python]

so for some reason when i put physbones on my avis ears it only affects one of the transforms, and the other transforms cannot be affected even after directlyt putting the physboines component on it, any idea?

[jolly crane]

Unity does not know what the "length" of a bone is. if you want a physbone chain 3 bones long, you either need to add a 4th bone, or increase the "End position" on the Y

[austere python]

yeah i figured that out lol, i added an end bone and it fixed my problem

ty though

[vague lichen]

Does anyone know why when i add a particle system prefab onto a bone with a physbone component, the physbones just stop working on said bone. It's like the script isn't even there anymore, there is no movement at all.

[jolly crane]

because that prefab is a gameobject in itself, just like bones. the physbone is trying to include the prefab in a bone chain, but that isn't what you want

you should drag that prefab into the "Ignore transforms" list of the physbone

[vague lichen]

I thought of that but my main goal is to make the prefab move with the physbones, but based off how you worded that im assuming its not possible?

[jolly crane]

you want it to move with the bone, but you don't it to also behave like a bone in the physbone chain

otherwise the particle system would also be flailing

that's very much possible, just parent it to the correct bone and add the particle prefab to the ignore transforms

[vague lichen]

Ohhh, ok. I understand now. Thanks for the help

[timber saddle]

strange question, because i had some issues when trying to make a cloth skirt.
What's the deal with "mesh collider" when it comes to avatars? is it possible to make a world constraint object that's solid and thus that people could jump on? I ask this because I apparently had the colliders set wrong in my skirt attempt, and they were colliding with ME and sending me darting off and spinning off... plus there's that whole collider jumping/flight system

[jolly crane]

it is possible to use mesh colliders to interact with the world and with players. doing so can be a bit tricky however since you need logic to deal with the fact that your mirror clone also has all the same colliders in the same place

[timber saddle]

see what i was thinking of was something like sango's boomerang (from inuyasha) but not the same design, something that could be thrown, but was world-locked when it was and when it collided with a wall in a world, players could jump up onto it

but i didn't know if it was possible to make an object that could work like that

[jolly crane]

in theory it should be possible

[upper raven]

I dont think other players can interact with colliders set on your avatar, not like that anyway

[trim citrus]

they cant

the only global ones are the preset ones

at least from what ive seen\

[jolly crane]

I was not talking about physbones at all

[trim citrus]

ah

mb

[drowsy pike]

When using contact receiver in on enter mode, is there a way to have it work more than once? It seems to only work the first time then never again until avi reload.

[mellow hawk]

On enter will set it to true for 1 frame, then false the next frame.

[drowsy pike]

Sure, but that seems to only work once

next attempt it seems to not function

[short narwhal]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/UsingHumanoidChars.html

[proven narwhal]

(Was a 'forgot to delete')

(Migrated full question to av3 help)

[finite roost]

Very quick question. I have an empty game object and straight above it is another. The bottom one has a physbone component to create an invisible bone which I'm taking the _angle parameter from.
For some reason though the bone looks still but the parameter is jumping from 0 to 0.25 and back, jittering kind of

I need it to stay at 0 angle when it's not moving, not jitter between a value of 0 and 0.25

Flickering between 0 and this

These are my values. The radius is only to see the line for testing

[fallow plume]

Been having an issue lately where every time I try adding extra bones to my rig, pieces of the avatar just flip backwards. Does anyone have any clue what might be the issue here??

[twin dagger]

Well to the above the feet are facing the wrong direction dun know if that helps any or not.

[fallow plume]

Probably should have posted the og models lol

But put simply, everything is fine until I add a humanoid rig in unity. The bones are being inverted upon being mapped.

[simple elk]

something with export setting in blender / apply all transforms somethingsomething, not the first time ive seen that

[rare raft]

can someone help me setup a unlocking dynamic for a avatar with a synced network parameter

[mellow hawk]

You talking about how physbones don't always 100% position between PC Quest. Or something else?

[rare raft]

im talking about the vrc contact senders/receivers and making a synced parameter for a lock.

i want to make public avatars but i want them locked to were i have to unlock them with a key but im having trouble keeping saved

[elfin flower]

Does anyone know if there is a library of PhysBones presets?

[mellow hawk]

This old post has a couple of presets to work from and a diagram to show you how the settings work.
#avatar-dynamics message

[elfin flower]

thanks :)

[quaint escarp]

does anyone know how to make dynamic bones grabable?

[mellow hawk]

add a radius and have interactions enabled in game.

[rich topaz]

Dynamic bones? Not phys bones?

[quaint escarp]

wait

wrong words

i meant phys bones

[rich topaz]

They’re grabbable by default

[mellow hawk]

false
they default to not have a radius

[quaint escarp]

how do i make them grabbable on my avatar though?

i have the boxes checked

[mellow hawk]

radius and interactions, only two things that affect it

Is this your avatar btw, like one your working not one that is ingame.

[quaint escarp]

yea

im working on the avatar

[fair drum]

Best time to add a rigged tail? In Blender or after in Unity?

[halcyon vault]

model editing in blender

[fair drum]

Thank you love

[bronze aurora]

now its getting kinda weird

i wanna have some wisps surround my avatar and float around as i move. my idea was to make a central game object on the avatar with the wisp particle effects in it like a container. i then added the physbone component, put the container as root and wanted to see if it works in play mode (editor view). surprise surprise, it didnt

i then tried the exact same thing with dynamic bones instead and low and behold, it worked there. everything is perfect. then i even tried auto translating them and stiff again

is there a difference in how physics bones calculates that stuff compared to dynamic bones?

[halcyon vault]

Yes, a lot. Here it’s probably multi child settings.

[main ermine]

Wrong chat

[bronze aurora]

i tried all of them yet nothing changed

[fair drum]

You still have to add dynamic bones even if VRC just adds phys? Never understood that

[mellow hawk]

They get run through the auto converter at runtime. But people are lazy and would screech if you just remove them from the sdk.

[jolly crane]

you do not need to buy dynamic bone if you're uploading a model. however, some base models still come with dynamic bone components on them, and they will cause missing script errors unless you import dynbones or use a salvage converter to convert the missing dynamic bone components to physbones

[fair drum]

Thank you guys

[merry topaz]

I'm having trouble syncing grab toggles, I can end up holding a gun on my end, but other people won't be able to see it. Is there any kind of easy fix for this?

(Asking here 'cause technically dynamics related.)

[fluid wadi]

is it in your synced parameters?

[mellow hawk]

Are they directly inverted, ie on is off and off is on. Or is it not triggering at all where it works for the local player.

[merry topaz]

They work perfectly on my end, with non-local clients, it's 50/50. I know the problem is probably in the way that I set this up, but, this is from the only tutorial that I could find.

(I just noticed the mismatch in the enable and the disable for the primary weapon, but, I use the same framework for all of my grab toggles, which, that isn't the only one on that avatar for me to test. So, for the purpose of showing how I do them, and asking for help, it's still valid.)

[simple elk]

other will see it differently - enable and have the paramter in your parameter list

[merry topaz]

Alrighty, I'll try that. Thanks.

[torn tendon]

@summer abyss Hi, I followed the instructions in the video about the Avatar prop and on your page and the prop WITHOUT any changes to it, moves along one or 2 axes in a circle if I'm moving my head left or right. It's fine when other people pick it up by the contact though. It works fine with every one of my avatars except the one that doesn't have a ring finger. Does the avatar need a ring finger for the prefab to save or lock its position properly when the Avatar Prop boolean is enabled in the expression menu?

[torn tendon]

I just setup the hand so that there's a middle and ring finger instead of an index and middle, I'm going to check if it makes a difference.

[torn tendon]

It made no difference, it still rotates.

[summer abyss]

You need a ring finger in order to be able to rotate it but thats about it. I’ve never seen this error before though so I would recommend deleting the prefab off your avatar (prefab, fx layers, and parameters) then reinstalling it.

[torn tendon]

Ok

[peak trout]

yeah you need a ring finger

also need help with avatar dynamics tmmr if anyone can dm me about it later

[versed meteor]

Question, if you have a custom contact sender with a tag matching someone else's contact receiver, would they be able to interact?

[simple elk]

yes

this is where the combat thing makes stuff hard to do since they need the same parameter name , currently only one we have similar is head/torso/fingers & hand

[versed meteor]

I was going to ask a follow up question asking if the community had agreed on a common weapon tag to make everything work together, but I guess this was already the answer.

That's unfortunate. Guess I'll just name mine "weapon" and see if I get any hits (pun not intended)

[jolly crane]

people use Damage

you can add multiple tags too if there are other ones you want it to interact with

[versed meteor]

That's true. Thanks for the advice!

[mellow hawk]

Attack, is sometimes uses

[cursive agate]

Hey. I want to create a hair root bone to keep my number of physbone components down. Is it possible to ignore the first bone in a chain? I know you can do stuff with the curves. But i don't know how to do it precise. Since I would imagine that the root bone could move a bit and move all hair out of place. Or Am I compleatly wrong?

[mellow hawk]

It should be okay to just have an dmpty holder bone coming from the head bone. That way you can group all the hair together. It should be fine, but you can always use the ignore transfroms option to remove it from the script.

[cursive agate]

Okok, I'll see what results I get. Thanks.

[versed meteor]

Would it be taboo if I gave a sword a hand contact tag?

[halcyon vault]

If you want people to high five the Sword, go for it

[ember bay]

what's the best way to test contact receiver within Unity? I made an empty object with sender component in it and have it set to hand, but it doesn't seem to do anything during playmode

[fluid wadi]

that method works fine for me

did you move the sender over the receiver?

[ember bay]

yeah I did. doing it in playmode through the scene window should work, yes? I mean It also doesn't work on something I've made in the past

[fluid wadi]

is the receiver also hand?

or is it hand L/hand R

[ember bay]

yup

it's hand

[fluid wadi]

does it work ingame?

[ember bay]

yes

[fluid wadi]

are you using av3 emulator

[ember bay]

no

[fluid wadi]

i believe you need that running

[ember bay]

oh

[fluid wadi]

https://github.com/lyuma/Av3Emulator

[ember bay]

thanks

yeah that seems to work

if I set physbone component's parameter as "thing" and if I wanted to play an animation according to how much it has been stretched, what do I refer to it as in FX? thing? or thing_Stretch?

[fluid wadi]

thing_stretch

its the parameter + _stretch that it changes

also for angle and IsGrabbed

[desert tiger]

Hi, i attached clothes in Blender to the body but the clothes won't move with the Physbone physics in Unity, how to fix that?

[short narwhal]

have you set up any Physbone for your clothing

[desert tiger]

Nope..just the body, thought they would move because they are attached

can I add it the same way I did with the body?

[short narwhal]

double-check are you referring to them not jiggling for physics bones are like they're not even attached to to your main skeleton

[desert tiger]

yep the body jiggles but clothes dont with it!, Do i have to go back to blender-

[short narwhal]

all of Physbone setup is handled in unity

other than physically making bones

[desert tiger]

got it working, It didnt work because the mesh was attached in blender

[peak horizon]

how do I make breast physics not look goofy with physbones?

[mellow hawk]

Limits and settings more than anything.

[floral arrow]

Heyo, i was wondering if there's any guides or information out there related to avatar props that'd be interactable by other players like picking up objects and etc?
seen a few avatars that has the among us character where you're able to pick it up, so I'd assume it's more than possible :) thanks!

[royal musk]

question, how do I show Physbones I put them on my Avi and they showed up but I pressed something my keyboard and now I can't see Physbones at all- help would be appreciated Q-Q

[stiff viper]

probably pressed Gizmos

at the top of your scene, should see this

just press it and it should show your physbones

[royal musk]

oh

[royal musk]

thank you

[jolly edge]

So I'm trying to use the _Angle physbone parameter thing to play an animation but when I use the Gesture Manager in Unity and grab it with my cursor nothing changes. I checked it with the _IsGrabbed and it worked fine
I'm stumped

I even went into the debug and checked that the _angle is moving, but nothing is changing

[torn tendon]

Sziasztok

15:00 körűl ráér valaki vr chat-elni?

[upper raven]

Let me see the FX layer

And the parameters

[jolly edge]

It's alright, I scrapped the _Angle idea and used a very small _Stretch instead which works. I'm still not entirely sure why the _Angle doesn't work tho

[high dove]

how would i make a physbone being grabbed trigger a 2d texture to change and a different expression

[simple elk]

Parameter_IsGrabbed - do stuff on fx be it material swap (bleh) , material offset or uv swap (pconly)

[distant silo]

can I exclude colision from the root of a bone and not the rest

having issues with this kind of situation

the root in the back has colision when it shouldn't 🙂

(Purely for realism btw)

[cerulean agate]

Just updated Avatar 3.0 Emulator with fixes for the new SDK, FX masks and GestureManager 3.7 support. It contains some fixes for OSC and avatar dynamics parameters, so _Stretch, etc. now work with OSC while testing.
Get it here! https://github.com/lyuma/Av3Emulator/releases
Let me know if there are still issues using it together with the default controllers.

[upper raven]

The package doesnt come with with GM 3.7

[cerulean agate]

💢 how did I miss that. thanks

[cerulean agate]

fixed. Download it again, or download from GestureManager 3.7 and add that

[upper raven]

yeah i did, thanks

[ancient sage]

so the contact updates to 1 but the parameter dosent update? im out of ideas of what to do

[fluid wadi]

are you using av3 emulator

linked above

[ancient sage]

i have it in the project but its easier to just use sender

ive even tested it in-game, i just have no clue whats wrong here

[fluid wadi]

is it enabled?

the sender wont do anything in unity without it

[ancient sage]

yeah it is

[fluid wadi]

is off or on your 0 state?

is both the sender and receiver fingerindexr

[ancient sage]

yeah

like the parameter works

it just dosent feel like updating

u can even see it

it sets it to 1

but wont on the animator

[fluid wadi]

is ON not 1?

[ancient sage]

it is

[fluid wadi]

so it is updated?

[ancient sage]

its not

like theres nothing on this

ive tried pretty much everything

[fluid wadi]

the blue line under on means its on that state

what exactly isnt changing?

[ancient sage]

the Unlock parameter

this shows it better

the transition from lockscreen to songoff is just Unlock=true

but for some reason no contact receivers actually update the parameter

[fluid wadi]

what happens when you move the sender off of it

[ancient sage]

just changes unlock to 0

still nothing happens in the animator

[fluid wadi]

try with another receiver type

[simple elk]

proximity is what i mostly use

[ancient sage]

ive tried it with other collision tags, a different game object with the same receiver, local only or WD on and off

like the only thing i can think of is for some reason the receivers just not attached to the animator somehow

even though its the only animator in the entire scene

[fluid wadi]

to double check is av3 emulator's game object in the same scene? if you have multiple scenes it only works in the ones its actually in

[ancient sage]

i have the package in my project but its not used

[fluid wadi]

you need to enable it

tools bar, av3 emulator

[ancient sage]

well i dont really have an avatar in this package

im just using the dynamics demo for now

[fluid wadi]

you don’t need one

av3 emulator will make unity behave like vrchat

without it a sender will do nothing

[ancient sage]

well either way, still nothing

[fluid wadi]

it’s enabled?

[ancient sage]

ye

[fluid wadi]

same scene?

[ancient sage]

yup

[fluid wadi]

lyuma updated it 17 hours ago are you on that one?

[ancient sage]

updated it, but still nothing

[fluid wadi]

the avatar you put it on is the fx controller on it?

[ancient sage]

it has no avatar

[fluid wadi]

get one, put a descriptor on it and attach the fx controller

[ancient sage]

well ive already done that

i tested it in-game

[fluid wadi]

so does it work with an avatar in unity?

the emulator needs a descriptor

[ancient sage]

it should

like theres zero things saying otherwise

[fluid wadi]

you tried?

[ancient sage]

i mean i can do it again

it wont change anything cause i havent done anything though

[fluid wadi]

you didn’t have the emulator on before

[ancient sage]

the emulator shouldnt even do anything

like its a prefab asset you'd slap on an avi

i did that

still no work in game

i even went on to work on a stupid roomba that explodes

it uses receivers and works just fine

[fluid wadi]

you don’t put it on anything

it’s a game object with scripts on it that is just active in the scene and changes how play mode behaves

wait so it doesn’t work ingame?

[ancient sage]

No

[fluid wadi]

ok i’ve been under the impression it’s been working and you just wanted to test it in playmode

[ancient sage]

Parameter wise, it is

like toggling them on and off works as intended

but for some reason trying to put those parameters in contact receivers just wont do anything

[simple elk]

uugh do you have av3emulator in your scene or not

[ancient sage]

its there

i just updated the sdk so lets see if that magically fixes it

i hit play and it crashed unity

reopened it, still nothin

works functionally but not practically

[fluid wadi]

so it won’t transition off lockscreen?

[ancient sage]

it wont set the parameter to true

if i check the box it works fine

[fluid wadi]

confirm that av3emulator is enabled, you have an avatar with a descriptor and the lockscreen fx controller attached to it

[ancient sage]

its enabled

ill add a test avi

[ancient sage]

still same issue

ima take a break from this before i die interally

[kindred fiber]

is there any way to have it where a user is able to grab my sword from my back ?
Im really really new to Avi Dynamics so idk

[mellow hawk]

Yes for sure. First idea that comes to mind, having it set up like: chest > empty > sword.
Adding a physbone script is empty with a lot of stretch, no radius, and endpoint at the sword base. Then the sword having a physbone script, no stretch, radius to grab it, and endpoint at the tip.
Should work, but have not tested it. There maybe better ways than this as well.

[kindred fiber]

what do you mean by "Adding a physbone script is empty with a lot of stretch, no radius, and endpoint at the sword base. Then the sword having a physbone script, no stretch, radius to grab it, and endpoint at the tip."
Like the blade itself have a lot of stretch with no radius while the handle has no stretch but with radius?

like when you say empty, you mean by "empty object"? 😮

Sorry is hard for me to understand cuz I’m a visual learner hahaha

🤔

[mellow hawk]

So because a phybone script will always face the direction that is being pulled when it's being stretched, we need to have two independent scripts. One for rotation, one for offset.
The sword can have one just to be grabbed and rotated wherever it is.
But we need to link that wherever with the avatar, so we use another one. We cant directly attach it to a humanoid bone so we need to use an empty game object.
We also don't want to be able to grab this bone because it's just to bridge the gap so we turn the radius off so it can't be grabbed, we also want it to stretch so it can be in or out of the original spot we grabbed it from.

[kindred fiber]

oooh okaaaaay

thank you so much

since this is physones based, would that mean that this is able to be used on quest avis as well ?

[mellow hawk]

Yeah, it would take up 2/8 Components, and 2+/64 Transforms

[kindred fiber]

thats no problem at all

[rigid plover]

So, I was trying to add Gogo Loco Beyond, but when I try in it vrc, the scale toggle just causes the avi to bug out between different sizes. Is there a way to fix that?

[rustic ferry]

If a contact sender and receiver are always overlapping, but using On Enter as a receiver type, will the parameter be set to 1 only the first time that the velocity goes over the minimum velocity? The language is vague in the documentation, but it does say "upon first contact" which makes me think that if the two are always overlapping it may never trigger.

[upper raven]

yes, the parameter will only be 1 when the two contacts "touch", after that the parameter will go to 0 and will only go to 1 again after the sender leaves the receiver and touches again

if the sender "stays in" the receiver it wont become 1 until it leaves and touches again

[sinful tiger]

I'm running into an issue with a contact triggering an unrelated animation. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I'm making a basic boop. I've set this up in the fx controller, using a pretty standard animation loop. Entry->default (with a zeroed out animation) <-> boop (with the triggered boop animation). The transitions are set to use a bool called "boop" which the receiver also specifies.

once I added the zeroed out animation to the default node, it started triggering a separate avatar scaling animation. So now whenever the boop animation triggers, it scales my avatar down considerably. The pic is the scaling animation. I did not make this one, so I only have a cursory idea of how it works (this from @summer abyss's gumroad).

I was hoping someone might have an idea of what to look at next? This is my first foray into avatar dynamics and I very much don't know what I'm doing.

[summer abyss]

So you get booped and end up being scaled down?

[sinful tiger]

yep.

Didn't think you'd answer this quickly, but thanks for popping in. Sorry to tag you.

I'm also using your high five, and not having any issues with that. From what I've been able to tell, I'm not doing anything very different.

[summer abyss]

Go into the AV3 manager, click on the WD symbol, and ensure that you click "Set WD on" if you see a bunch of checkmarks on the right side of the window. If you do not see a bunch of checkmarks that click "Set WD off"

[sinful tiger]

My avatar apparently uses a mix of write defaults. Would it be better to try forcing them all off or on? I know vrchat recommends off

[summer abyss]

They should be set uniformly throughout with the exception being my scaling prefab.

That is mixed on purpose

[summer abyss]

Refer to this to select the appropriate option.

[sinful tiger]

that seems to have fixed it. Thanks for your help. Now to go test to see if anything else broke.

also, thanks for the great assets. 🙂

[rustic ferry]

I have 5 physbones that I am pulling the _Angle parameter from. In play mode, most of the parameters are at 0.0 at rest (expected) except for 2 of the horns that are at 0.5 at rest. When jiggling the associated physbone, it appears that the it's adding and subtracting from 0.5. Is this normal? https://i.imgur.com/dvbBQqP.png

At rest: https://i.imgur.com/qPUmWga.png

The HornBellL_Angle and HornBellR_Angle values also don't seem to be moving quite as much, as if they were clamped.

[mellow hawk]

Do they have gravity?

[rustic ferry]

@mellow hawk They do not. However, they're a separate physbone script from a different physbone on the chain which does have gravity. I tried disabling gravity on those particular bones and did not notice any change.

[rustic ferry]

Basically the 5 different layers I've created for these 5 parameters are exactly the same, nothing else is referencing the parameters, but for some reason these two have both decided to report different values... and the left horn reports less overall change from the right one. I'm very baffled, but I think I will set up the physbones again on a fresh version of the model to see if anything changes

[modern island]

is there any way to reset physbones to their original pose before / after disabling them ?

[halcyon vault]

if you have the component disabled you can animate the bones to their original orientation. I did this for a while with things that relied on blendshape deformation

[somber robin]

Hello, I tried to make a prone still animation, and when I tested it on the unity model, it floats. and when I try it on my own model, it doesn't float. when I try it in vrchat, it floats just like the unity model. how do I make it not float?

[plush arch]

I've heard someone be able to pet anyone and it makes a brushing sound. Is there a way to read the head bone collision and produce an action with contact senders and recievers?

[mellow hawk]

Yeah the head has a contact sender tagged as Head, automatically added to every avatar

[plush arch]

ah, so you can have a reciever on the hand that reads the tag Head, and it'll be able to play a sound?

[mellow hawk]

More or less yeah, just use normal toggle logic and it just kinda works.

[plush arch]

oki

[mellow hawk]

The defult ones are head, chest, fingers, hands, feet. (names may not be 100%) But these are senders on every avatar. and the hands have physbone colliders as well.

[bronze siren]

Is there a way to have senders/colliders attached to the feet that would interact with others physbones the same way hands/fingers do?

Could you just use a sender with hands

err, no that wouldn't work

[upper raven]

There's already colliders on the feet that interact with physbones

It's added automatically

[jolly crane]

no, those are only contact senders

they are not physbone colliders

the default "colliders" are mostly just contact senders, with only the palm and fingers doubling as global colliders

[upper raven]

My feet always worked as colliders for physbones

[fair sundial]

mine dont?

[jolly crane]

sus

it is possible to steal the colliders off some fingers and put them on the feet, but that is not a supported thing

[halcyon vault]

show video of your feet interacting with someone else's hair. I'd love to set that sort of interaction up

[jolly crane]

literally asking for feet pics kekw

[halcyon vault]

Y-you can keep your shoes on

[bronze siren]

could you not just attach new colliders to the feet

[jolly crane]

those will only interact with your own avatar

and only on the physbones you specify

not with others

[bronze siren]

:c

[rustic ferry]

Hey folks, I'm completely stumped why my physbone _angle parameter on two particular physbone scripts is always returning 0.5 in Unity, and flickering constantly between 0.5 and 0 in VRC. The other three physbone scripts return 0 when not in movement, as expected.

@mellow hawk maybe but I know you've already seen me ask this question before 😭

[plush arch]

I'm looking to make a brushing sound, but don't know how big the bubble should be, and if i need a spatial audio source, and what volume it should be.

The plan is to trigger it when a reciever in the hand connects to a head (i have that set up already), but just don't know the specifics to the audio source.

Can anyone help out?

[rustic ferry]

Update: was a bone too high up on the horn bone chain. Needed to use an endbone which wasn't in a great position, so I added a new bone in Blender

[rigid plover]

is there a way to fix this?

[tardy light]

hey so for some reason the bones on the tatas stay stuck in position and there arent bouncing back anymore
i tested these setting on all of my avis but just on this on the bones on butt and tatas get stuck
do u guy know what it could be?

[halcyon vault]

Top and bottom, if it's using an fbx/obj, position the model in blender with the feet in line with the X axis and apply transforms

[rigid plover]

i tried that didn't work either, but im doing it in unity. would that change anything?

[halcyon vault]

I mentioned blender for a reason. Unity doesn’t care for it’s position in the scene, it’s calculated on the pivot point of the object that holds the descriptor. Setting the avatar’s position to 0, 0, 0 will be the best visual of where the model sits and what needs to change

[rigid plover]

ah ok, i think i did that in blender. havent rlly used it before, what would i do after that?

[plush arch]

Does anyone know any worlds that could work well for testing avatar dynamics? Like a world where there's spheres that are contact senders and recievers for different body parts
for example: - a sphere with a contact sender/reciever with the tag "Head", to test headpat mechanics on avatars

[jolly crane]

you can't do avatar dynamics in worlds yet

[plush arch]

ah, so to test i'd need someone to test it on

[jolly crane]

either that, or test in unity with the emulator

or add those spheres to your avatar and have them world constrained

so that they stay in the same spot

[plush arch]

well i did
but the person I made the avatar for said it didn't work.

[vocal frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733160520173223946/1034889691016736768/Sword_Collision.mov

[vocal frigate]

Figured out an easy way to detect world collision and translate it into a parameter via avatar dynamics

(also pictured, gesture-less controls, using SteamVR input with OSC and contacts to grab the sword, and physbones to detect swings)

[jolly crane]

are you ray-casting a contact?

or using particles?

[vocal frigate]

particles with stop action behaviour but using contacts to convert to parameters

[glossy ferry]

Do any body know the different between Dynamic bone on Unity store and the VRC Dynamic bone?

[jolly crane]

there is no such thing as "VRC Dynamic bone". previously we used Dynamic bone from the asset store, but that is obsolete now

VRC has their own system called Physbones

[glossy ferry]

my bad, and thank you

[timber saddle]

I got a bit of a dynamics issue. I had phsybones, and capsule colliders, and they're going through each other rather than properly repelling

Basically, the head tentacles keep going through my arms, despite the arms having colliders that are set to STOP that.

or could they be slipping through here?

maybe this isn't enough overlap to keep them going through the elbow?

[jolly crane]

it's most likely your angle limits

[timber saddle]

I jsut added thsoe to try to stop it

[jolly crane]

if you reach the limit the collider will go through

[timber saddle]

they weren't there before

I added those just now (not in the upload) to try to stop them from bending in half, so it's not those XD

it was doing it without them there

https://i.gyazo.com/1de5e458f2a49548cc29eb08dccde628.mp4

[stark sparrow]

I was updating an avatar that still had Dynamic Bones, and I was wondering if anyone had a good starting place for hair numbers? All Google is telling me is stuff about when Physbones came out in April, and I was hoping for something a little more recent now that we've had more time to play with it

[vocal frigate]

https://github.com/Entorix/Entorix-Collision-Trigger made this prefab. Linking it in case you're interested

[short narwhal]

cool making it a prefab

[vestal obsidian]

As soon as I enter play mode this shit happens:

[halcyon vault]

Cool, either your phys bones are shooting away or you have an animated blendshape that’s exploding

[vestal obsidian]

The physbones go nuts

Didn't happen on old SDK

oh wait it does

dufuq

lol

Doesn't happen in game.

[mellow hawk]

Did you apply transforms?

[glossy ferry]

can we use cloth physics like this in VRchat?
https://youtu.be/Nc_ZMgEFj-A

[torn tendon]

I feel like you would need a million tiny bones to achieve that in vrc

[mellow hawk]

You can use cloth in vrc, but do know that cloth gets laggy fast.
They are PC only 1 is medium 2 is very poor.
Read more here: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-performance-ranking-system#pc-limits

[glossy ferry]

Thanks

[cedar yarrow]

Idk how but now the vrm to vrchat converter works at making physbones

I have a vroid model and it worked at converting all the hair to physbones

It has a very poor performance rating but it doesn't seem to lag so i guess it's worth it

[bitter mason]

I would recommend taking a look at what your model actually uses of those physbones. For example, the Vrm converter often ports unused skirt physbones. With a little tuning and removing unused physbones scripts I can generally get the avatar to good or medium.

[cedar yarrow]

yeah it's got skirt physbones, but interestingly they do make the skirt move

i have noticed that weirdly it seems to somehow like, put physbones throughout the entire arm

It's kind of strange though because when I tried it on my old custom avatar, it didn't make any physbones at all

and this one is based on it

[bitter mason]

So those are actually colliders, the physbones in your arm are for long sleeves. If your avatar doesn’t have long sleeves (play around with it, it might not have physics on the shirt anyway) you can remove those colliders. Same with the body, if you have a skirt the leg ones are probably needed, but using angle constrains would be much more performant.

Depending on your model, if you look through the armature you will have a ton of unused bones too.

[shut igloo]

Physcbone is missing when copy component and paste.

Any answers for this?

[wide harbor]

Im getting a no animator error, but im already set to humanoid?

[shut igloo]

Nvm I figured it out. it was the Multi Child Type "Average" checkmark.

[olive copper]

scouting some interest here; does anyone miss the way distribution curves worked on dynamic bones?
Physbone distribution is based on biggest number of bones in a strand, but Dynamicbone distribution is based on longest bone strand.

Usually these don't have a difference in practice, but now with physbondes for example: if you had all your hair under a single root bone but wanted your two hairbuns to have a bigger collision radius compared to the strands, you'd have to
a) edit the model and separate the buns under their own root bone, adding a physbone component
b) exclude the buns from the primary hair component, adding two physbone components (each their own since there's no multi-roots)

either way since the number of components still counts, you'd still end up compromising hierarchy or bloating the number of components.

with dynamicbones you'd find the bone-point, and add a spike there

ran into issues with the physbone distribution again, so is this such a niche issue no-one else'd like this as a feature? Should I suggest on the canny like a check-box on what distribution method is used
it's hella ugly and unoptional, but while waiting for multi-roots, it's the second option

[torn tendon]

anyone know how to fix this glitch

[upper raven]

no sorry

[fierce ginkgo]

anyone have any physbones settings they can suggest for female avatars and long hair?

[bleak needle]

no sorry

[honest mantle]

does anyone know if it's possible to make a child bone in a physbone chain pull its parent bone along with it when it's pushed by a collider? i know they do that if they're being grabbed but if it's just being pushed by a player's hand collider or something only the child bone seems to move and the parent stays put, even if it's set to be able to move

[fair sundial]

huh

why here

[dry panther]

Have the parent have a parent

[sinful tiger]

I have an interaction that's supposed to play audio on a specific interact, and I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the audio to actually work. The current animation is in the screenshot. There is a 1 second transition between headpats and headpats 1 (perfectly named, I know). The animation in headpats 1 enables a game object called purr. The game object looks exactly like another audio source that does work. The second screenshot is the audio source. The third screenshot is the animation. It works testing in Unity, but as soon as I'm in game and someone triggers it, the purr does not play. Everything else works as expected.

This is my first time trying to add an audio source myself, that hasn't been a part of a prefab, and I'm stumped on why this isn't working. The only thing I can think of at this point is maybe I'm doing something wrong in the animation controller, but the rest of the animation works entirely as expected. It's just the purr that's not triggering.

I'm wondering if there's anyone more experienced than me with audio sources that might be able to help/give pointers/throw ideas out

[olive copper]

Often the audio does play, but it's so darn quiet because of how audio behaves in-game. I had a similar issue, and what fixed things for me was making sure the audio track itself wasn't too quiet, and adding this component under the audio source

I was looking at debug windows etc and after maxing my volume, I could tell there was something. The rolloffs and spatial audios were just off

I amplified the audio in audacity as well

otherwise your setup looks fine :)

[loud path]

Does anyone know.... Is the hand holding "shader" the only way to hold hands in vr?

Is that what the hand holding world does?

[simple elk]

Thats a really old shader thing (free to try - pain to setup) - surprised it still behaves , you could probably make up something with contact/recivers

[sinful tiger]

thanks, I feel like if I boost the audio any more it'll end up being clipping hell, but I can try boosting it more. I'll try adding a much higher spatial falloff as well, for testing (I originally had one but removed it based on how a prefab I'm using is set up)

this is the audio clip currently. Seems like reasonable levels to me, at least.

[olive copper]

audacity boosts the audio 'to max' before it starts clipping, so the audio looks perfect

[sinful tiger]

Yeah, I boosted it to 0dB last night, still nothing. I'm adding the spacial audio source now to see what happens.

[olive copper]

oh, also set your min distance to 0

[sinful tiger]

do you think it would matter that the gameobject container is parented to the head bone, rather than using a constraint?

[olive copper]

makes no difference, as long as the animation paths can be found

[sinful tiger]

That's what I thought, but wanted to confirm.

[olive copper]

audio is difficult to get working, since so many things can be wrong

[sinful tiger]

I've noticed 😦

Min distance is 0 on the 3d curve, spatial audio source was added with a gain at 10, then I boosted the gain to 40 in the vrc spatial audio source, but still nothing.

[olive copper]

huhh.. 🤔

[sinful tiger]

Here's a hopefully not-too-odd question, should this audio be working with a local build & test? I have another animation that doesn't function on a local-only avatar (because it's a scaling thing).

[olive copper]

should work with both

but there's always a chance that vrc is broken 😂

[olive copper]

next I would look at the animations, but you said everything works in unity?

[sinful tiger]

I can double-check, but I definitely heard it in unity before making changes using a sandbox avatar. give me a sec to be sure.

[simple elk]

yes - i test local avs randomly with audio , 3d will always be low 2d is loud as hell but everyone can hear it

setting fallout do squat on avatar audio if its 2d , works in worlds with the same setting

[olive copper]

vrc automatically lowers volume significantly but the vrc spatial audio component bypasses that

[sinful tiger]

I have somehow entirely broke interaction on my sandbox. Today is a blessed day. This will be a few mins, gotta remake the sandbox avatar. :V

So now, I'm not hearing it in Unity on testing.

Is ee the audio source activate, but not hearing it

(screenshot done after trying to temporarily change min/max distance, etc.)

[simple elk]

add audio listener on something , you can hear it

[sinful tiger]

I already have one in the scene

[simple elk]

then you should hear it in play mode and when its near radius

[sinful tiger]

And yet, I'm not

[olive copper]

bruh your pitch is at zero

that's the reason

by default it's 1, anything lower slows down the clip, and 0 is at complete halt

[sinful tiger]

thanks for that catch

It's working in unity again. I'm trying an upload and seeing if any of those changes worked.

[olive copper]

now the volumes are at max and it'll blast your ear drums off 😂

but good luck

[sinful tiger]

fine for now 😄

I can tweak levels later as long as the fucking thing works

[olive copper]

you had to suffer with it so now everyone else has to as well 🔫

[sinful tiger]

exactly.

the best part is it's like a 1 second loop. whoever triggers it is going to hate life after a few seconds.

FINALLY. Thanks so much for your help, I really appreciate it.

[olive copper]

boom pow, glad it works

[sinful tiger]

This has seriously been a week of effort trying to get this clip working.

[olive copper]

I doubt it has been the pitch all this time? hopefully not

maybe all the other tweaks were of use as well

[sinful tiger]

I doubt it's been the pitch this whole time, but it was probably the pitch in conjunction with other things. I think I changed the pitch before I increased the gain on the file itself, thinking the pitch was screwing it up, and never changed it back. Also, now I'm curious if I could get this audio clip to somehow crossfade into itself nicely when it loops, so it's more of a continual purring.

[olive copper]

I made a working otamatone into the game, and the key to get rid of that looping 'snap' was to align the waveform in audacity; and I mean get it perfect

and I'm talking this type of matching

[sinful tiger]

That’s about what I was expecting. I was considering splitting the track at a good loop point, and reversing the order of the resulting clips, so I can control how it crossfades (because it’s a natural recording, it won’t have a perfect sine like that)

[tidal pier]

how many note it plays

[abstract saffron]

@summer abyss Hi I love your interactions on booth pm. I have use the halo without problem and currently trying to add the avatar prop but I am have some issues. The script in avatar prop/Rotation/Get rotation/rotation is missing. I might downloaded it wrong? not sure

[summer abyss]

There is a list of prerequisite assets that need to be imported into your project prior to installing my unity package. The one specifically for this error is the VRLabs final Ik stub. There is a link to it in the product description. With that said I would highly recommend you delete the avatar prop folder from your project assets, remove the existing prefab from your avatar, import the final ik stub, import my package again, and then reinstall the prefab onto your avatar in that specific order.

[abstract saffron]

It works! Unfortunately my halo has some issues now. It won't go to someone head, instead it will go to around the spawn area high above. My head still works though and still grabable

[olive copper]

sorry i have my mentions off for this server so didn't notice your message; but I added the range from C3 to C8, but in increments

others can play it too in your hand; the only stipulation is that it takes the pitch value from the closest player, so whoever has their finger closest is giving the highest pitch. So I gotta stand with the otamatone in my hand and have my other hand behind my neck to not mess with their pitch.

idk if people would care for this, I could put it up on booth

[sonic lava]

that is SO sick please do upload it

[summer abyss]

Just uninstall and reinstall the prefab. Your avatars position is at 0 0 0 right?

[acoustic anvil]

Does anyone have any settings that sorta simulate cloth physics that is willing to share them?

Just saw several months ago someone suggested some physic settings, I'll try those, but if anyone has some settings they prefer lmk.

[ruby quarry]

Would anyone know why the tail physbones won't work?

Currently have less than 8 total physbones and have tried applying the VRC physbone to all 'Tail' bones as well as hips but it simply won't drop in play mode like the other physbone parts

[halcyon vault]

You need 1 component for a chain of bones on the bone you wish it to start from
Each object seems to have more than 1 child so with the Multi Child Type set to ignore it's... well, ignoring them all.

As an aside, I know this is a game rip but 80% of the objects in the rig aren't used by vrchat and can easily be cleaned up/rearranged.

[ruby quarry]

Oh I see, thank you 😅

[ruby quarry]

Yeah, I just wanted to test some custom animations and gestures. Will re-work it on a later day

[lost surge]

not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I have an avatar and I want to add glasses. Ive seen people set theirs up so they can actually grab their glasses and hold it in their hands, and then put them back. Does anyone know how to do this?

[fluid wadi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp0ysawmizM

[lost surge]

thanks!

[mellow hawk]

Long and short, you'll need to know about: state machine's network sync, button-based toggles, contacts, and global prams.
None of these are hard things just gotta put them all together.

[frigid trail]

Hey, this may be a bit of a dumb question and I don't know if this belongs in avatar help or here. but, how do I test psychics. I'm only new to unity and every tutorial never shows how to turn on the psychics in unity. Making me Manually go into into the game to test it out. I've gotten tired of doing it this way. So how do I see my psychics in action on Unity?

[mellow hawk]

the psychics will tell me my future lol.
You can click the root of the avatar and drag the avatar around in the scene window. You can also mouse click and drag in the game window to test grabbing, right-click will even pose the physbones.

[frigid trail]

yeah, but I tried moving it by the root and yet the psychic bones remain static, and my games tab doesn't even have controls for me to look around

[mellow hawk]

are you in play mode?

[frigid trail]

how do you go into play mode?

[mellow hawk]

The play button at the top of unity

[frigid trail]

Oh! wow I did not see that! thanks soo much!

[frigid trail]

Ok I fixed half of the problem I was trying to fix but I don’t know how I did it- is there anyway to stop psychics from sticking up like this?

[celest pasture]

don't suppose someone could help me understand something?

I've got this HueBody float param set up to adjust an avatar's color -- and it works fine via the radial menu and in playback; but I'm trying to set up some physbone controls.

so I've got this set up, and it does work as a slider, but nothing's happening to that param.

I figured {parameter}_Angle implied that I could do "HueBody_Angle"...

am I missing something?

(oh jeez... don't tell me the {}'s are required)

[jolly crane]

they aren't

your issue is that you added _Angle in the name

don't do that

only call it HueBody

otherwise in your animator you would need HueBody_Angle_Angle

[celest pasture]

well now I feel silly

[jolly crane]

by putting in a parameter in that field, you can use all 3 properties in the animator

[celest pasture]

I see... alrighty -- I'm curious about one more thing there

I set a max angle at 16.5

does that means I'm only gonna get a fraction of the 180 == 0-1, or does it adjust for that?

[jolly crane]

I don't think it normalizes the range no

you can do that yourself multiple ways though

[celest pasture]

oh?

[jolly crane]

using animations, you can animate the value of other floats in your controller

so you can make an animation that changes the value of another float from 0 to 1 linearly, but the "1" is where 16.5 would be

https://hai-vr.notion.site/Avatars-3-0-Animated-Animator-Parameters-and-Smoothing-f128c71dd3184c2bb61a4cff8296ada5

look for the "AAP - Remapping a value from [0, 1] to [X, Y]" section

don't forget to change the curve to be Linear

[celest pasture]

I'll check it out, thanks

[jolly crane]

can do that by selecting all keyframes, right clicking, Both Tangents > Linear

[celest pasture]

hmm... I have no issue setting my keys to linear, but I'm having trouble finding the remapping stuff

Set the Normalized Time parameter to be the same as the parameter that is being animated. This is a basic feedback loop.

Create an animation that animates the parameter from 0 to 1, and make sure the curve shape is set to be linear.```

seems straightforward, but ... where is this setting? 😛

hmm... the only thing I can think to do is just stretch the keyframes from 0 to 16, then put a duplicate at 100

I can't find anything that resembles normalized time or remapping as per that article

[celest pasture]

this seems... right? (haven't got it to work though...)

[jolly crane]

Normalized Time was renamed to Motion time

it's a setting when you click on an animation state

if you're having issues setting this up I could probably help you tonight

[celest pasture]

I appreciate the offer -- It was around 1am cst when I sent that last message, so I had to get some sleep -- that aside, I'll investigate motion time. If I run into any issues I may poke this channel again.

wait a tic...

this "motion time" ?

that's what I've been using to control the playback...

suppose the root of my issue persists... must to find a way to turn 0-16.5 into 0-1

[jolly crane]

@celest pasture so one way you could do it is by editing the animation for the hue, making it so that it does a full hue rotation from 0 to 16.5

[celest pasture]

I tried that earlier -- kinda breaks radial menus

well, break is a strong word... just makes 83.5% of the wheel unuseable 😛

I'm honestly kind of baffled that it's not normalized from the max value in the physbone

like... should I submit a canny?

[jolly crane]

you could probably submit a canny about normalizing values yea

for your case though there are a few things you could do to make it work

[celest pasture]

I think I can do this with a blend tree, but the downside is that I'd have to use two animators instead of one :/

[jolly crane]

no? you don't really ever need to use more than one animator

unless you mean animator layers

[celest pasture]

er... actually yea, I guess I can just use the same motion there and set the values.

[jolly crane]

if you're free about 8 hours from now we could hop in a call and work this out

there's a lot of esoteric knowledge about animators that could come in handy here

[celest pasture]

I should be, and I appreciate it -- I'm optimistic about this blend tree setup, but I'm always open to better/more efficent ways

behold: https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/normalize-parameter-values-for-physbones-with-a-limited-range

[celest pasture]

what a pickle this has become

It might be hard to tell, but I'm pulling that little rainbow slider (hinged physbone) with my right hand, and the open menu is updating accordingly (Color) -- but it's still maxing out at 16% -- even with a blend tree remapping the float.. :/

If I adjust via the expression menu, the new percentage isn't sent back to the physbone's rotation. That's understandable, but it makes me wonder if I'm creating something unsustainable.

arguably, the hand menu for color stuff would only be necessary for desktop players

Given the limitations, I wonder if I should leave the styles controls in the radial menu and maybe use these hand menu options for non-desktop stuff, pen adjustments maybe...

[queen spruce]

I've noticed this problem ever since the update, but on Quest you can't pose Physbones anymore, like. On PC you can, all my settings are set that you can pose them, but on Quest you can grab them and just not pose them and was wondering if that problem was addressed or will be patched, or was intentional.

[thick bison]

I have an AV with only 4 fingers- so I thought itd be possible to sacrifice the useless 5th finger bone and make it act as a global collider.
I'm pretty sure its technically possible, but I aint sure how to get it to work ingame. Ive tried just parent constraining it but that doesnt seem to work.
Any ideas on how I could get it to function?

[upper raven]

What do you mean

Fingers are already global colliders

[jolly crane]

it's possible, but very jank and not an intended feature

[bronze siren]

Anyone know if there's a script for Unity for moving physbones/contacts, IIRC there was one that added gizmos but I can't find it on Google

[jolly crane]

Dreadrith's AD Overhaul

for contacts, you should be adding those to their own empty gameobjects anyways

so that you can easily move those around

[bronze siren]

perfect, thank you!

[timber saddle]

before i hit export.. will this give a stretch_ amount ?

or do i need to put a bone between these two, that's connected?

[jolly crane]

this should work

[timber saddle]

https://i.gyazo.com/9b58fe86f94b54562ba888c1ba348265.mp4

it's.. obviously, a bow...from splatoon

[rugged vale]

Is it possible to make a accessory you can put on anyones avatar?

[rugged vale]

Tri stinger.

[rugged vale]

Something like a friendship braclet you can give to someones avatar

[tidal pier]

unity auto connect all bones

[jolly crane]

not easily, and it won't be synced

late joiners won't see it

[slim steeple]

use a VRCAvatarParameterDriver?
setting it to "Copy" will allow you to map between two ranges of values

it would only trigger on state entry so you would need to have 2 states that are rapidly switched between to make it update in real time

I have done exactly this on one of my avatars before and it worked quite well

[celest pasture]

yep -- @jolly crane hopped into a dm and showed me that method. 👍

[wraith patrol]

Does anyone know why this happens? Physbones are added to the model and for some reason a second non-moving part is there

[thick bison]

Any source or guide on how to set it up? I know its possible. I just aint sure how to pull it of

[trim citrus]

just an idea, if you make a bow an arrow you could make it shoot using dynamics using a book or float, make the first state idle, then when it's pulled to the max make it true to enter a pre fire state, then when it sets back to 0 or false you can have it do the fire animation and then when it stays false, go back to the idle state

this could be done by using either the (is grabbed) parameter in physbones OR for more accuracy and realism, you use a contact receiver at the string of the bow around the center, make it so the string can only be moved backwards via a very tight angle constraint (rotated ofc) and then, when the sender on the string passes through the sender once it enters pre fire, then stays there using a second pre fire state for when its false. then when its released and sent back to the original position, it goes back on again and shoots, then enters the beginning idle state again

something like that

[teal nexus]

so random question what is the radius tool on the vrc phys bone thing in unity

[mellow hawk]

radius is how far away from the original bone that bone can be interacted with. Set it to zero to turn off interactions.

[harsh depot]

whats a good setting for dynamic bones when it comes to hair? i want it to be droppy and not go back to the og place when i turn my neck ect

[cobalt mango]

So I don't know if anyone else has this problem but for me I feel that velocity receivers are a bit unreliable. I think this is because the parameter is set to one for only one frame and sometime that gets skipped do to lag or something.

Anyway does anyone else have problems with them not working correctly and what are some alternatives/solutions?

For me I wanted to use them to be a toggle for a sound but sometime I won't hear the sound when it triggers while other players do dame with animations and toggling item.

[acoustic ridge]

for drooping down, put gravity and falloff all the way up, and just mess with the other settings in play mode until you get something you like

[harsh depot]

ohh okay thank u sm!

[upper raven]

thats due to vrchat's network tick, since the parameter is only on for a frame it sometimes doesnt sync, yes its not reliable, not idea why vrchat did it like that anyway since it will always be unreliable since frames not always get sent over the network the way vrchat's networking works

[tidal pier]

just try touch osc

could make fun stuff with it

[cobalt mango]

Do you know of other ways to get the same outcome?

I have seen someone use something they called a dampener.

It looks like a contact receiver that has a max velocity. When it hits that max it stops or slows down. This way you can have a colider and receiver attached to the same part, but they'll collid when you hit the right speed.

It's good for swing animations, but I haven't seen anyone explain how to set this up.

[dark drift]

@cobalt mango do a non-synced stuff. When and only when you see some stuff collide (local only=true on reciever), set some synced var (typical toggle) to true via vrc parameter driver. also bettoer to put publuc var on a puppet in menu for faster sync

[cobalt mango]

thank you

[civic pelican]

Just wanna ask for some good numbers to start with on phys bones for male hair, and clothes

[rapid berry]

Jiggle boo-

[vestal finch]

So can receiver parameters really only use one bool parameter at a time?

[halcyon vault]

Yes, there’s really no point to have it set multiple different bools as you could just check for the 1 and get the same result.

[quick phoenix]

Does anyone know where the Immobile type went?

I don't have it listed in mine

[jolly crane]

using an old SDK?

[quick phoenix]

I just downloaded from the website

Which is partially what I'm asking, are there two versions or something?

Can't find it in debug mode either, the documentation was updated in the last 30 days

Did they remove it and not say so?

[simple elk]

no, but if its missing you have a old version of sdk mixed in there somehow, they added that in may

[quick phoenix]

I believe this project was done with the companion tool, but i'll make sure

You're saying you're updated and it's there?

[simple elk]

if you use vcc theres no need to download the sdk

yes mines there

[quick phoenix]

Cool that's what I need to know. I'll see if i can get it back migrating, I guess I didn't do my main project

Ty!

[quick phoenix]

Migrating the project fixed it, thank you guys

[stoic vale]

bones

[bronze stump]

Does anyone know any particular examples or translation of what Min Velocity (or Velocity in general) with vrc translates to in the unity editor? Or would this be up to just experimentation?