vrchat-jams

[spiral fulcrum]

Spookality is on! Submit between now and October 22nd.
https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/spookality-2022

[tribal sky]

[small anvil]

spoopy

[dim oak]

[modest terrace]

[hoary quiver]

[ocean belfry]

jam jams

[finite vapor]

im new i need help someone dm me pls lol

[shy knot]

What kind of jams? Blueberry? Strawberry?

[modest terrace]

SpamJam

[dim oak]

I've never had jam before

[lusty widget]

[rancid terrace]

Lol

[visual rock]

Space jam?

[tired peak]

yes

it’s jam in space

[shy knot]

”Come on and slam, and welcome to the jam”

[solar loom]

I haven't seen new messages in this channel for a while

I will now immortalize myself within the archive

[small anvil]

Nutella

[warm talon]

Ayo

[molten bough]

does anyone know if i submit a world to Jams does it need to be in community labs ? or do i leave it out of labs?

[dim oak]

What does strawberry jam taste like

[abstract island]

I know in previous jams they would make the world Public, no matter if it was Private (Due to trust rank) or in Labs. Not sure how they are handling it this time around. I imagine Labs would be okay.

[molten bough]

its all good it told me when i when to upload it 😄

must be public

thanks tho

[small anvil]

they are using a new system for the jam this year, so it may be different

[abstract island]

So you have to be able to publish Public worlds to be able to participate in the jam? Im not sure my trust rank is that high 😦

[molten bough]

well at least in comm labs

to submit

[small anvil]

seems like we can only submit public worlds

[autumn heron]

I have been wondering what this vrchat jam was about

[worldly slate]

Halloween

[modest terrace]

It's about virtual reality, chatting, and jam

[autumn heron]

So regular vrc stuff?

[modest terrace]

Yes, with emphasis on the jam since it's such a focus for vrchat

[narrow escarp]

Hey you whatcha gonna do

[dim oak]

Make it spooky

[forest perch]

Boo

Lol

Hi

Peeps

[dim oak]

Hhello?

[noble geyser]

Hiya

[small anvil]

I wonder if this could be made a horror vrc map. just discord pinging noises at random

[ancient ledge]

:(

[lusty widget]

are the jam worlds live yet?

[late timber]

when will the worlds be up?

[fallen zinc]

so unity crashed, and now ive lost over a months worth of work on my jam, well this is great :)

the scene just loads blank

[dim oak]

💀

[fallen zinc]

yeah its not been a great day

i had an upload already on my account but i dont want o upload something to that jam thats 90% done

shit sucks but we move ig

[proper current]

I feel like you maybe should revaluate what you write here.

[spiral fulcrum]

Any errors or warnings in the console? Are all your files missing from the Assets folder?

[spiral fulcrum]

We'll publish the first round of accepted worlds and avatars this week.

[fallen zinc]

unfortunalty after trying everything i could, i did loose everything, i dont want to submit one of latest tests i have live on my account because i dont feel it reflects my work fully, so ill take the loss on this year and work on making a much better submission for next years jam. and in terms of what i lost, everything is still in my files, but the scene itself got wiped, so it would mean id have to effectively remake everything again

[late timber]

yessssssss do you know what day specifically?

[dim oak]

For a second i was wondering how the hell my friend momo became an admin so suddenly

[modest terrace]

Vrchatt staff speedrun

[proven frost]

I like making friends. I hope I can meet more friendly people😆

[lucid bough]

Oh, Sweet! Can you find me some?

[proven frost]

what

[modest terrace]

You have to make friends for them

You have no choice in the matter

[lucid bough]

no no I just wanna know where I can find me some sweet friends lol

because most are fake or just mad annoying lol

have nice friends are hella dope 😎

[modest terrace]

Join a world in vrchat with like 5 people in it and you'll meet some nice ass people

[dim oak]

What about bad ass people

Mean ass people

[modest terrace]

Nice ass people implies the existence of people with not nice asses

That's what that one 'broke ass welder' dude fixed

[lucid bough]

Tried that didn’t work when people join constantly or I join it and I’m the only one in the world even tho it said there were people in it lol

[modest terrace]

Bad luck then fr

[lucid bough]

Yup 🤧

[narrow escarp]

Is there any actually scary spookality maps this year?

[ancient gust]

I have a question about what content we can use. I want to use area lit in my world so do I need to get permission to use it from the creator or am I not allowed to because it is a paid asset?

[spiral fulcrum]

You are allowed to use any assets to which you have the rights - so if you have purchased a paid asset, you are welcome to use that in your submission.

[ancient gust]

I thought that would be the case but just wanted to check, better safe than sorry. Thanks for the help Momo!!!

[grim python]

🌳

[exotic wind]

Heya, just have a small question maybe someone could help me out. So I'm having this one issue with vrchat I might not be the only one dealing with it. However whenever I start up vrchat it tells me that an virus was detected. Does anyone know a solution on how to fix this?

[late timber]

i think its something in ur files u gotta delete

[pale junco]

how do we find the jam worlds in the current menu? like, is there a tab for it im missing?

[tribal sky]

i dont think the first worlds have been published yet

[pale junco]

ahhh ok, thank you

[mild barn]

just wondering where the comfy VR menu option went, i cant for the life of me find it and m sick of snapping my neck to look at it.

[dim oak]

U wot

[lusty widget]

is jam over yet

[dim oak]

Strawberry

[sullen ore]

mmmmmm

btw does anyone know what the prizes are for spookality this year?

[narrow escarp]

Yes

[calm peak]

i feel weird about my spookality entry

because l ike

everything about it is screaming

it should absolutely be quest compatible

but because of the way vrchat calculates performance

i dontthink i can put them on quest 0n0

[mystic delta]

i mean technically all it's gotta be is less than 100mb and actually compiling

though you might want to have more than 10fps

[abstract island]

Ends on the 21st!

[spiral fulcrum]

Spookality is not a contest anymore - just a time to make and show spooky stuff!

[hoary furnace]

Ouch

If I would have known that earlier I wouldn't have made some extremely unhealthy decisions. That's rough.

[narrow escarp]

I think a contest would have been cool.

[hoary furnace]

It has been that way the past 4 years

Don't know why all of a sudden it changed without announcement tho

[small anvil]

I heard there were issues with people starting way before october and thus releasing much better stuff that people actually playing within the rules couldn't compete with. And since the prizes were things like the valve index and stuff, it was no small issue

But thats just speculation

[hoary furnace]

True true

I didn't really participate back then but I heard there was a theme to prevent that. Could definitely be wrong tho

[spiral fulcrum]

We announced it when we launched Spookality last year: https://medium.com/vrchat/vrchat-spookality-2021-45153d58556a#f5f7
We specifically called it a Jam this year (which has never had prizes) and described the possible outcome as having your world or Avatar featured in the Spookality Hub this year: https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/spookality-2022

[charred ruin]

My avatar made it

[charred ruin]

I wish to win my avatar being in hub uwu

[night thicket]

that's unfortunate. always felt like spookality had a bit of extra oomph than a normal jam because everyone knows about it well ahead before it's ever announced. it allows for extra creativity when players can reliably start building their map in advance knowing what's to come. i think downgrading it will lose that extra creativity, and while normal jams are fine, they're definitely limited to the more rushed format and maps aren't allowed to flourish as much.

[raven thistle]

hi all, we have made many worlds in vrchat but we can't make em public yet. We would love to partecipate to the current jam but the world has to be public..any tip?

[night thicket]

you have until the 21st to submit, so if you can get it so it can be public by that point then you'll be fine

[abstract island]

I'm confused -

So am I not allowed to upload a world to Spookality that is in Community Labs? That pushes up the deadline to upload since it'll need time to be made public.

[night thicket]

pretty sure i flipped my world to community labs and submitted immediately with no issue

[abstract island]

Phew okay perfect! I plan on finishing my world by the 20th so I'm hoping to publish it to the jam right from community labs.

Thanks for the response 😺

[alpine peak]

what is a jams

[cunning oriole]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_jam

[narrow escarp]

shits fire

[lusty widget]

Was more than 24h tho

[karmic elk]

The pictures for spookality, do they need to be taken in the hub world or will anywhere do?

[unique mural]

I feel there should be a different random jam that should be a competition; so people wont have extra time to prepare

[wanton halo]

Yes! You can see it by logging in on VRChat.com
It should be <t:1666465200:F>
<t:1666465200:R>, thought I might be an hour off 🙏

[lusty widget]

How long will the jam worlds stay featured / have a category list?

[wanton halo]

I would expect them to stay for at least a couple of weeks.

In previous jams, the row would stay up until the following jam.

I'm not sure that'll be the case this time, with the new UI and the decreased frequency of jams.

Though we'll just have to see what's in stock! The new jam interface on the website is certainly promising. 😊

[deft totem]

It'll stay up for a few weeks after Halloween, as per https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/spookality-2022

submissions opened up on Oct 1st, and will close on the 22nd at 12PM PT

[wanton halo]

Looking forward to seeing what you've all been working on!

[glad spade]

Hey vrchat admins, just found at least 2 avatars that use non-original bases not made by the person who submitted the avatar, which goes against your own spookality rules, what happened?

those 2 avatars are using known bases in vrchat

the base is also prohibited to be uploaded to social games

[lusty widget]

@glad spade #moderation-reports

[tribal sky]

for the purpose of providing to third parties*

[glad spade]

Uploading content to vrchat is providing said content to vrchat

Providing vrchat with content

Also doesn't change the fact that the rules of spookality says the avatar must consist of entirely original assets

[tribal sky]

nono i agree with that, but uploading to a social platform is allowed for those avatars (the first one for sure, idk about the second one)

upload to social communication platform

permitted

[brazen nimbus]

so did you report it?

[glad spade]

I did, this is me reporting it

[tribal sky]

this is not where u report it

[tribal sky]

this is where u report it

[deft totem]

I'd recommend reporting it via #moderation-reports, as listed above

Discord is not the place for player/bug/etc reports

[glad spade]

The report links in the moderation is to report users for doing something against vrchat TOS, they didn't so anything wrong in the game per se, it's just against the Jam rules so I'm reporting in jams

[tribal sky]

"I'd like to report an avatar"

[glad spade]

The avatar isn't against vrchats tos

The avatar is allowed in the game

Just not in the jam

There isn't anything i can report the avatar for

[deft totem]

aren't you..saying that at least one of them isn't allowed to be uploaded to a social platform, though lol

[glad spade]

Yes, but I'm also saying that none of them is allowed in the jam

[deft totem]

If they're not allowed to upload it to the platform, then it's potentially against TOS (see sections 12.1b, 12.1c, and 12.1d, etc)
nonetheless there's no harm in sending a report that way, it'll be more definitively seen

moderation in VRChat is nice, and doesn't punish good-faith reports

If wrongdoing is found, they'll handle it

[tribal sky]

rusk is for sure not banned from being uploaded

if it is then i guess im illegal

[deft totem]

defo, I mean more for the other one

[night thicket]

The real question is why you snitchin, it aint like its a competition lmao

[glad spade]

what....its...exactly a competition

its spookality, the winner gets prizes

the winner last year won a whole valve index vr kit

[deft totem]

not anymore, no

It's just a jam now

The transition is covered here: https://medium.com/vrchat/vrchat-spookality-2021-45153d58556a#f5f7

[hoary furnace]

I did it

It is finally done

WOW

Popped off too! Can't wait to make this thing quest compatible!

[spiral fulcrum]

congratulations!

[charred ruin]

Is it possible to see how many people have used your avatar during the jam?

[lament jackal]

once you upload a world to the jam, is it possible to update it afterwards? also can you submit labs worlds?

[glad spade]

When you upload a world to the jam you upload the world id, when you update a world using the same id the world gets updated automatically in the jam

[lament jackal]

oh that's wonderful thank you

[dim oak]

you are probably the second or third rat ive seen

[mystic delta]

damn, got stuck on "future proofing" and missed the deadline

[lament jackal]

ran into a similar issue :/

there goes my 31 hours on 5 hours of sleep ;-;

[mystic delta]

mood

[wanton halo]

Done, just time time! 😅
https://twitter.com/Faxmashine/status/1583836760542674944

Fax (@Faxmashine)

My #Spookality world for #VRChat is finally done!!
5 Floors🍬
5 Monsters 💀
... Play it NOW!
https://t.co/E8FQG1b4MG

Push your luck & get more candy than your friends! But escape before you run into the same monster twice...
🪦
Code & music by @Faxmashine, Monsters by @FilsonInk

▶ Play video

Twitter · Oct 22, 2022, 3:04 PM

Remember to keep your hierarchies on PC and Quest identical! I had a stray EditorOnly tag for a couple hours there..!

Do we have a place to share feedback on individual entries, similar to itch.io?

I suppose the feature wasn't used much on itch.io, but it'd be great to get feedback to creators regardless

[glad spade]

You could've just submitted it the first you uploaded the world the first time, any updates done to the world would automatically be updated into the jam

[lament jackal]

that is true but I wanted it to be nice and finished ;-;

[mystic delta]

for me, i didn't really have minimum viable until just today

so i didn't feel comfortable uploading until just then

[wanton halo]

Oh my. The hub looks amazing!

Hmmm... Though the player's UI isn't supposed to show up in mirrors, is it?

Ahhh, I see there's still some avatars and worlds missing! Guess we shall return later

[mystic delta]

you can set what a mirror shows in the mirror shader iirc

[glad spade]

I'm pretty sure that's s personal mirror or am I wrong

[wanton halo]

that's true, but that's the hub world! don't have access to that 😛

[pallid knoll]

question, can we still upload newer versions of spookality submissions after deadline?

[glad spade]

i dont think so

try it

if its the same world id the world will just get updated

[pallid knoll]

yeah but is that within the spookality rules?

like, is it ok/legal to still update a submitted map after deadline?

[glad spade]

have no idea but hey not even the reviewers of the submissions care about the rules apparently

[pallid knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-what-pikachu-huh-confused-gif-16190974

[mystic delta]

the only rules really specified are "be original" and "follow ToS and Community Guidelines"

[hoary furnace]

OOF

[dark swallow]

can we stil update the submitet map? i found samthink that i need to fix

[hoary furnace]

I've been able to update my Spookality submission flawlessly

Gives me the opportunity to carefully implement Quest support

[gloomy epoch]

Does anyone know if this avatar shown in the spookality jam announcement is public?

[night thicket]

how do you go about finding differences in your hierarchies? dunno if there's a solid official way to go about it or anything. i've basically been converting the entire hierarchy to a json file on both projects and doing a text compare, which works well at making sure they're the same, but still a bit of manual work lol

[wanton halo]

in my case it was because an object had an editoronly tag! oops.
Other than that, I usually work with the same project for PC & quest. either by switching platforms, or with two clones of the same Git project. Then I swap shaders, objects, etc. (Jordo's EQS really helps with switching!)
future versions of VRChat may make the whole process easier.

How's your project set up?

[wanton halo]

Yes! This is an entry from last year, by blueasis. It's on his booth page, but I think you can also find it in last year's hub.

[night thicket]

ah, switching platforms isnt really an option for me, takes a long long time to do that. this year it wasn't too much of an issue for me, different hierarchys, but last year i wasn't aware that they had to be identical, so i had made some changes that i didn't even think about which was a huge problem lol

basically forced me to create that export json script so i could locate the differences because it could have been in a million different places

once i got to the point where the world was almost done i would copy the project/convert to android, i still had a couple weird quirks, like when i converted to android unity actually changed a bunch of things around automatically in the hierarchy. was really weird

was hopin there was something i didn't know about to compare hierarchys a bit easier haha. the json thing can still be a lil tricky

[narrow escarp]

Noticed that too. Nothing new on there for a while

[spiral fulcrum]

We're doing the final judging now and will update the world and tab at the end of the week

[abstract island]

I uploaded mine on the 21st, but I also don't think all worlds will make it into the Spookality world row. I think only the ones selected to be featured show up.

Hopefully they like mine! Lol

[hoary furnace]

Hopefully they don't see mine until I push out this fat update lol

[paper snow]

I also made a short introductory video for my world, but the announcement said not to update after the closing time. Can I update the web interface? Or should I not bother? 😉
https://youtu.be/lQEnsVcxnR4

[past elbow]

You should be fine adding a trailer. I believe it's for updating the world itself since they need to review and judge it.

[spiral fulcrum]

great trailer, @paper snow!

[paper snow]

Thanks 🙂

[green zenith]

This is my spookality submission if anyone wants to check it out. Still new to making worlds but it was fun and I love Halloween 😊 https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_7cc32f9d-5276-4f0d-a3f3-6e9b1c33bf2e

[prisma elm]

Did it get accepted?

[dark swallow]

do thay gona add more maps in spookality or that was it?

[abstract island]

They just added a bunch to the Spookality World Row. I imagine those worlds will show up in the Spookality 2022 Hub soon.

[hoary furnace]

Let's gooo!!!

[green zenith]

Idk. It's not on the tab. Idk how they judge which ones get on tab and don't but I just hope to be in the hub at least for this year

[dark swallow]

so do there be more spookality worlds that gona be added or do thay judge all worlds and that was it if yes then i not gona be in this year why i dont see me in the list

[sharp badger]

Does anyone know that world from i think 2 years ago? With the map where you have a shovel and had to dig up bodies, you shove em together, apply electricity, and they actually turn into a frankenstein thing?

[abstract island]

Just checked it out. Really cool, well designed world! I loooove how you did the lighting

[dark swallow]

I dont remeber the name but cyanlaser made that world

[narrow escarp]

I do have a question about the jam, are their prizes for the winners?

[deft totem]

No, as it's a jam and not a competition anymore
the change is covered here: https://medium.com/vrchat/vrchat-spookality-2021-45153d58556a#f5f7

[green zenith]

Thank you for checking it out!

[prisma elm]

not gonna lie, i'm sad my world wasn;t included.

[narrow escarp]

Hmm should't this channel be locked now

[tiny vapor]

hmm

[hoary furnace]

maybe

[rapid valve]

I have question: what is actually criteria to make submit valid and who decide the world will added?

I noticed my world is not accepted, so i need know what is wrong with my world.

Also, why is one world that is already made before accepted to jam? I don't understand at all.

Jam means nothing must fully premade already!

But i recognize one world i played it long time ago

The content is very identical

its even exact same world long time ago.

Channel don't need locked down if there are still questions. Once list in menu vrchat is removed (so event is gone) then channel can locked.

Oh global question: how many worlds are so far submitted?

[rapid valve]

Nobody is here now?

[vital pawn]

[hushed root]

my airlink isnt working and im losing my mind

[narrow escarp]

What worlds can I go to that people are in for the open beta for quest

[rapid valve]

Why are you posting in wrong thread @hushed root and @narrow escarp

I kinda disagrees with some worlds placed in Spookality list. I will explain soon why i disagrees.

Worlds that already premade or pretty much more than 90% already premade and just changed a bit for theme are in my eyes not valid.

Jam doesn't means you can just change a bit existing world for it. That is too easy compared to other worlds made from scratch.

Which is unfair to put them in list...

[tribal sky]

u dont win anything so what does it matter anyways

[small anvil]

its not really about the prizes, its about making something and having the opportunity to show it off to others, and it can be annoying when your original work is shown off along side reskinned existing maps

[abstract island]

@rapid valve @prisma elm and anyone else that made a Spookality world that didn't make it onto the world row...please share your Spookality world links in here!

Before they lock this channel until the next jam...we should use it to share our Spookality worlds that we made but may have not been selected. I would love to check them out, and imagine there are others that would as well!

[glad spade]

Totally agreed, with avatars as well, their own rules is "ONLY assets made by you" but most avatars in the spookality avatars world are just kit bashes

[real rover]

the black cat

[prisma elm]

https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_77d0c109-1a48-459c-8903-2f1039d9bbc8

Do you have any to share @abstract island ?

[green zenith]

I'm gunna share mine again :3 This is my first world I ever made and then this year I re did it from start again and built it up to be worthy of a Spookality submission! I wanted to focus on optimization this year and made sure that if people did want to do a Halloween party in it, it could handle it, both PC and Quest users. Hope you can find time to check it out. Any and all assets I used to build this world are either free to use/change or I purchased. https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_7cc32f9d-5276-4f0d-a3f3-6e9b1c33bf2e

I'm also going to share Scarizard's world because he submitted this past rendition to Spookality last year but didn't win, so then this year he restarted it as well and built it all over again. This time also focusing on making it both optimized and super fun with lots of games that everyone loves. And this year it blew up! Stats have gone through the roof and I think he definitely deserves it for the hard work he put into it. It looks super heckin cool and yall should check it out. https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_a8eacab2-7f21-426f-bf83-937bd64ddb5a

[terse agate]

A very cool world for playing "Truth or Dare", "Never Have I Ever". 135,000+ questions, supported languages = [RU=100%‚ EN=95%‚ JP=25%‚ CH=25%‚ DE=95%], also redefined for Halloween. https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_63524e06-df17-491f-974a-13cd8b4c244c

[abstract island]

Damn, did you build that drum machine? Suuuper well done! I very much enjoyed Ghostface flying at me every once in a while lol

[dark swallow]

well this is mine have fun https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_a97dec90-f16c-466b-b80b-9b25d6c0a975

[hoary furnace]

Sharing worlds now? Awesome! https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_b59c71d4-739d-4471-b1bf-705da8990391

[potent shadow]

https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_38c3bfc1-4a1f-4dd3-ab4e-a4ff3b074aa1

[hoary furnace]

💪💪💪

Thank you so much guys!! Really means alot!

[abstract island]

Sure Ill share mine too! https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_b7870ff4-95af-4056-bce2-0ca69cd59b99

[prisma elm]

yeah, i made the drum machine - well modified and updated someone else's proof of concept. Glad you liiked it! I was just experimenting with linking animation to the sound, though i rushed it to meet the jam deadline, not sure if i'll bother with that again

[abstract island]

I thought it turned out very well!

I feel the same way with having to rush, but that's just the nature of a game jam 🙂. Still cool to see what we can make in 3 weeks!

[spiral fulcrum]

The Avatars for Everyone Jam is Live!
https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/avatars-everyone-jam

[rustic mural]

Can the avatar use licenses around Vrchat

[balmy crypt]

The page covers that towards the bottom!

Licensing Stuff
The avatar submitted should be an original avatar. It should also be aesthetically unique and different from our current featured avatars.

If the avatar submitted is derived from some other content, the original license must permit modification, redistribution, and use in a commercial application. You must provide a link to the original content, including its license.

[rustic mural]

Yes i did read that

But can there be exception around vrchat type of licenses

Like vrcat

[spiral fulcrum]

Ah - no, I don't think we'd approve fan-made VRCat avatars.

[rustic mural]

ah oky 😦

[merry perch]

Is it mentioning any websites or storefronts that we don’t approve of?

Is there a list of approved websites and storefronts?

Also, are we also allowed to sell a paid version of the avatar elsewhere?

[spiral fulcrum]

You may not directly mention storefront sites on/in the avatar or in its name, description, or thumbnail (like Booth, Gumroad, etc). It is okay to mention VRChat Groups, Discord, or Twitter.

There's 3 approved things to mention, and two examples of things not to mention. It's ok if your Twitter or Discord has mentions/links to storefronts, just not directly from the avatar description, thumbnail, etc.

And sure, you can sell a paid version of it elsewhere

[merry perch]

Alright, so no links to my personal website/sites like LinkTree, but just VRChat, Discord, and Twitter specifically?

[rustic mural]

No ads. They want your avi to not be affiliated with anything

[merry perch]

Okay, thanks! I think I'll just play it safe and just not put anything.

[obtuse prawn]

is the Everyone Jam replacing this year's Joke Jam?

[spiral fulcrum]

We make up new jams every year (besides Spookality). We'll have a world jam next!

[fathom kiln]

I'm curious, if someone's already gotten an avatar on the list in the past, would they be allowed to submit another one in this jam too?

[spiral fulcrum]

sure!

[patent atlas]

How exactly would using Poiyomi work its under MIT Licence

And would the link to the original content which I half assume using Poi would require just need like a entry on a radial menu?

[spiral fulcrum]

The MIT License is compatible with this jam. Just link to the original content in the Description you submit along with the avatar.

[fathom kiln]

Another thing that came to mind, In the past they just kind of tossed up the avatar id that we submitted them. Is it safe to assume that'll be the case again? I feel y'all should probably make mention of that if it is so folks realize it'll still be attached to their account

[spiral fulcrum]

I'll pass that along to our comms team. We do like to make sure everyone knows who made the avatar so they can check out the author's other work!

[fathom kiln]

Yeah, at the time of the original batch I assumed they would of just reuploaded it.
On the plus side it did allow me to keep it updated when 3.0 came out, and then later on again when physbone came out

[tender island]

Are you okay with flying avatars? Or flight in general?

[patent atlas]

Honestly or if can can just use GoLoco obviously without the experimental features

[fathom kiln]

Does that loco thing work on quest?

[tender island]

just not flight

[fathom kiln]

Well I assumed goloco uses a lot of bone contraints to do all those poses and position locking

And bone constraints areen't quest compatible

[tender island]

its all anim based

[patent atlas]

yeah you just toggle tracking and stuff no contraints

[fathom kiln]

@spiral fulcrum Would 'spawnables' be allowed? Like say if you have an avatar that can spawn some random static prop?

I had an idea floating around recently for an avatar that would have such a mechanic.

[lusty widget]

The locking is done via basic av3 stuff, posing is then done via animators.

[patent atlas]

The only way I know how to drop something in world space needs constraints

But you are allowed 2 meshes in medium and poor for quest

[lusty widget]

avatar dynamics brought ways to make props for others to use, it would be a great feature show off imo

[fathom kiln]

Ah, probably wouldn't work for quest then

[patent atlas]

I am not sure if you would get penalized though for having a missing quest feature though

[merry perch]

Isn't there a way to make things world space with physbones?

[fathom kiln]

Well the idea I had was more of like, you spawn it and it just sits there until you despawn it with like a toggle or change avatar

[fathom kiln]

They did mention is as part of their scoring for choosing which avatars they'll pick

[lusty widget]

i wonder if chair logics are allowed? like a teleporter that you place somewhere

[fathom kiln]

"Parity Between Quest & PC Versions: Creators might have to remove or change some advanced features to make the Quest version of their avatar. How much do they have to sacrifice? Are they able to find workarounds? Is the Quest avatar just as expressive as the PC one?"

So it likely would lose a few points

[merry perch]

Wait, do we loose points for having features that are PC only or is it better to have more features than less?

[fathom kiln]

Pass / Fail: The first category is binary – there’s no scoring here. You either make it, or you don’t. Simply put, this category is about following the rules. Does your avatar have a Medium or better performance ranking on both PC and Quest? Is it published on both PC and Quest? Does it use SDK3? Does it abide by the ToS? Does it accurately describe any third-party assets in the submission? Is it mentioning any websites or storefronts that we don’t approve of? 

Essentially, make sure you check the Rules and Conditions below to ensure you make it past this category!

Performance Ranking: Avatars will receive points based on their performance ranking. Medium avatars will receive 1 point. Good avatars will receive 3 points. Excellent avatars will receive 5 points. If an avatar has a different ranking between PC and Quest, we’ll use the lower of the two scores.

Aesthetics: How creative, unique, or interesting is the avatar? Do its meshes, materials, and UVs look good in a variety of scenarios?

Inclusivity: Does the avatar appeal to a niche audience, or might it be enjoyed by folks with a diversity of interests, body types, genders, cultural backgrounds, or experiences? For this category, we’ll be considering both the type and design of the avatar, as well as its customizability.

Use of Avatar Tech: How well does the avatar make use of the various AV3 features? Does it use PhysBones, Contacts, Expression Menus, Visemes, Eye Control? Does it look good with full-body tracking? Do the interactions and features make sense, or are they just thrown in to check a box?

Parity Between Quest & PC Versions: Creators might have to remove or change some advanced features to make the Quest version of their avatar. How much do they have to sacrifice? Are they able to find workarounds? Is the Quest avatar just as expressive as the PC one?```

I assume it's to make sure that the public avatars are as near 1:1 between pc and quest as possible

[hoary thistle]

Winners may be required to sign an affidavit of eligibility, liability release and a publicity release that, among other things, will further allow Sponsor to use a winner’s name, likeness, voice, opinions, biographical information, and residence for publicity and promotional purposes without further compensation where permitted by law.

What is this part of the official rules used for (specifically in terms of the residence, I can kinda imagine the rest)?
I'm planning on entering but I don't really understand why my home address would be needed to be used in any public capacity 😅

[spiral fulcrum]

Does that seem like it violates any of the guidelines?

[spiral fulcrum]

We don't have any specific plans around it, that's what our lawyer said to put down since this is technically a 'contest'.

[merry perch]

Yeah I think so. I'm just not sure if it would make more sense to go for more points in "Avatar Tech" if it means less points for feature parity, or visa versa.

[spiral fulcrum]

Yep, there will be tradeoffs to make which is why we shared all of the categories. We don't expect any single avatar to score a 5 in every category.

[fathom kiln]

Not that I can find, but I guess wanted to be certain. This is basically kind of what I had in mind

[spiral fulcrum]

Looks neat! If it's something that affects performance or only works on PC and not on Quest, then it will have an effect on the scores your entry will receive.

[fathom kiln]

Yeah, sadly might be a chance quest will have some trouble if it requires constraints to lock em in place

[patent atlas]

Yeah as I am not sure of a way to do that on quest unless there is some shifty way with contacts or something...

as yeah I only know the constraint way

[fathom kiln]

An alternative idea would be to just have the props fixed in place and just move around with the avatar, but that would deprive it of people wanting to set up a little camp site somewhere specific

[random parrot]

i know it doesn't state so in the rules but the site does seem to disallow avatars that were created before march 11th
say if i have a really good high quality avatar that fits all the criteria very well and i want to submit this but it was made before march 11th. would it be against the rules to submit an updated version of this?
i'd like to submit some of my best work but i also dont wanna twist the rules just to participate >_>

[fathom kiln]

I assume it's likely cause they want folks to make something brand new. Basically made for the jam.

Plus, we only have two weeks to submit something, so quite a small window to make something compared to if someone already had something fully fleshed out they were tinkering with and refining for months already

[random parrot]

yeah that is about what i was imagining.... though it does seem a bit of a shame to exclude the more well polished pieces for a chance a the spotlight

basically i completely understand it can mess up the competitive spirit of the jam >_>
just looking for more concrete confirmation instead of just speculating

[merry perch]

https://hello.vrchat.com/avatar-jam-contest-terms

Entries must be original and not violate any third-party rights, and the entrant must have all rights necessary to submit the Entry.
This is the closest thing I can find towards there being that sort of requirement, but I don't think that's what this really means. Rules are like that are some what unenforceable. Someone could easily submit something they've been working on in secret for months or years with minor changes to fit the rest of the rules and no one would really know. And probably more importantly, a lot of people reuse a lot of stuff between models. (Sometimes I find random mesh attributes that are from stuff I've made 5+ years ago on my new stuff) I've notice lots of game jams have dropped that rule and just say it to make something generally new or fresh.

[spiral fulcrum]

Thanks for asking! You're welcome to submit something you've already made - we just ask that you work on it during the jam period, and update it at least once, which will make it eligible to submit.

[random parrot]

thank you! this is exactly what i was looking for (and hoping to hear) x3

guess i've got work to do

[spiral fulcrum]

Pinning answers to some important questions:

• You can submit something you've already been working on previously, you just have to update it during the jam. Take some time to see if you can improve it to meet all the guidelines better, etc to max your score in each category.

• Your avatar, if chosen, will stay on your account and will be featured using the ID with which you submit it, we don't reupload them. This way, everyone can easily see your profile and info if they like your avatar!

[merry perch]

Are multiple submissions allowed?

[potent minnow]

one submission only

I'm pretty sure the website will only let you submit one, @spiral fulcrum will know more about this

[spiral fulcrum]

Yep, one submission per person!

[subtle talon]

I've updated an avatar I want to submit so its most recent upload is after the submission threshold, but it's not coming up in the submission list on the website. Do I need to wait a bit for it to re-populate in the back-end or something?

[topaz patrol]

does this mean we finally get more fallback characters? ???

[winter trail]

I have basically the same question as Whaddageek, except I just made the avatar for this, so it was never even uploaded.
It's uploaded with a date stamp of 3-11-2023. but it isn't showing up in the jam submission options

[spiral fulcrum]

Have you made the avatar public?

[subtle talon]

It is indeed public.

Gonna try updating the Quest version as well, see if that does the trick.

[devout apex]

Are custom shaders allowed on the PC version (properly credited if third party, of course)?

Or does it have to be vrchat's default shaders?

[timid wraith]

Well the Guidelines don't say anything against it, other than that you just need to make sure the license of the assets used allows you to use them for it.
Good question though.

[timid wraith]

Someone also asked if it would be okay to use Poiyomi because it uses a MIT License, so you should probably be able to use a custom Shader @devout apex !

[devout apex]

Thanks, I was thinking of using poi since I'm used to it, but I don't wanna redo work if it turns out I can't use it at the end

[wicked trout]

Is anyone else having issues submitting to the vrchat avatar jam?

I can't seem to submit my avatar, and there's nothing I seem to be missing as a reason it shouldn't take. I mean, unless the shader issue is a thing?

[safe plume]

You're not the only one. The avatar I uploaded after the designated date isn't showing up. I guarantee you it's not a shader thing: Both versions of mine use a Quest shader. The only part I think it isn't strictly following is that it's very slightly taller than 180 centimeters. Is yours taller than that as well?

[wicked trout]

It's perfectly in range. She's 157cm

It seems to be looking for avatars that are public, but it says, "No public Avatars found" for me.

It also says, "You can only submit public Avatars created after March 10 2023 8:00 PM"
But I reuploaded everything, and honestly, did as it was suggested, took a sec to improve on some things and clean her up. Also updated her SDK to the current. Etc, etc.

[safe plume]

Sounds like it should meet all the requirements to at least attempt to submit. Being at least medium performance for both PC and Quest, size being between 152 and 180 centimeters, not mentioning any unapproved sites... what's going on?

[spiral fulcrum]

What if you upload the avatar to a new id? The logic might be set to only accept items created after that date. I thought it might have accepted 'last update date', but I could be wrong about that.

[safe plume]

I'll try something with my avatar to see if it makes it show up.

I scrunched my avatar's head to have it strictly fit the height requirement, and it's still not showing up. It was first uploaded after the designated time. I even changed the bounds to not go past 180 centimeters. Not showing up still.

[spiral fulcrum]

What's the ID?

[safe plume]

avtr_31104864-782f-4b8f-870c-5b5d17c6dec6

This is the one. The last update to it was specifically to debug this odd submission issue. It's not going to be submitted as-is.

[spiral fulcrum]

understood, thanks.

[wicked trout]

I had done that, yes.

https://vrchat.com/home/avatar/avtr_0b340a23-cec0-4bea-a02e-06bb31e7871d
if it helps.

[spiral fulcrum]

Hm, yeah I don't see a reason that it wouldn't be available to submit. I just tried making a fresh, public avatar for PC & Android and I don't see it available as an option to submit. We updated the gating logic for this jam, and it's gating too much now. I'll work with the team to get this fixed early next week and you can submit then. Sorry for the trouble!

[wicked trout]

That's probably the same for me then, I'll take that as my answer as well. Thanks!

[safe plume]

Go it! I'll go ahead and revert the scrunched head.

[wicked trout]

But it would be nice to have more specifics of what it's looking for, if not indicated somewhere.

[spiral fulcrum]

The cutoff should only be date, platforms + visiblity. The rest of the requirements are judged by hand. I've updated the description to note the issue:

[wicked trout]

Okay, it was uploaded today, platform is any, visibility is public.

Basically, this says it all. heh

Oh, the MB glitch, interesting.

I just noticed it's not reading the size.

[spiral fulcrum]

Yeah, that should be fine - it's not you, it's us. I even tried moving the 'opening date' cutoff to a few days early in case it was a timezone thing, but that didn't show the one I just uploaded so it's something else.

[wicked trout]

Ah, I restarted VRChat and the size updated correctly, so it's probably not that. heh.

[ashen gorge]

I'm currently debating try the jam event but Idk if vroid model be allowed?

[winter trail]

yeah, still won't let me upload mine, big sad

[spiral fulcrum]

What’s the license?

[subtle talon]

I wondered if it was a timezone thing myself and was gonna try re-uploading today. But good to know it's not actually just a me-issue then.

[winter trail]

hopefully it works out soon

[subtle talon]

Here's a thought; Are you sure your code's looking at last updated date and not the avatar creation date?

[spiral fulcrum]

We've identified the bug, and will fix it early next week, thanks!

[wicked trout]

Vroid is used as a base for some booth avatars, VRoids TOS allows for this.BUT you have to be careful about what you use within it:

When using data that has no special clauses written in the license
Any individual or corporation may sell or use for commercial purposes any mesh, texture, or preset item provided by VRoid Studio, including models, clothing items, and accessories, provided that no special clauses are indicated in the license.

[wicked trout]

Just letting you know, it was fixed for me! Submitted!

Ironically I did end up finding things to touch up. heh. But I feel now it's definitely ready.

[winter trail]

I was able to upload today, might wanna give it another look if u haven't already

[dusky river]

Are people using any contact senders and receivers on their submissions? Considering using "Pog" to make a funny face if you come across someone using the same avatar

[subtle talon]

Just checked, it's only partially fixed. New avatars are showing up, existing ones updated are not. I see the new avatar I added a few days ago, I do not see the one I updated five minutes ago.

[devout apex]

Is it okay to sell the Avatar (Source Files and Unity Package) on Gumroad after the Jam is over?

[wanton halo]

https://twitter.com/VRChat/status/1635788500372180992

VRChat (@VRChat)

We're giving everyone an extra 7 DAYS to submit an avatar to the #VRChat 'Avatars for Everyone' jam! ⌚

Create a new avatar, or submit something you've updated. Winners will be added to the Default Avatars Row and get a year of VRCPlus!

Check the rules:

https://t.co/HQM9ksTePR

Twitter · Mar 14, 2023, 11:42 PM

We hope you're enjoying the jam! Please let us know if you have any feedback.

[devout apex]

Wait, so is the deadline still march 27th or is it april 3rd (7 days after)?

[wanton halo]

April 3rd! The document is slightly out of date, but the timer on the website should be correct.

@devout apex

[devout apex]

Ah, thanks!

[spiral fulcrum]

Nothing in the contest prohibits this.

[wicked trout]

If I upload a revision, does the newest revision get looked at?

I cleaned up the way mines fingies bend.

It was a little funky and I had some triangles to spare, so I added an extra band per knuckle to make them bend smoother.

[spiral fulcrum]

Yes, most judging will not happen until submissions are closed.

[swift turret]

So just a double-check, we can use third-party assets as long as the TOS allows it, right?

(My specific case is gogoloco. I follow the TOS and I credited the creator.)

[rocky sorrel]

I feel gogoloco would probably not be encouraged (at least some features of it) as some of the features break the vanilla VRChat movement which would make some games unfair as new players would now have direct access to gogoloco features

[rocky sorrel]

if that helps

[rocky sorrel]

got all the parts sprawled out so I can texture it in substance without atlas-ing for better efficiency >:3

all under 10k polys which took hours get it look good given such

[winter ore]

[rocky sorrel]

the aura of this response scares me

[winter ore]

They said features need to make sense. So if your character have wings or something, they can float I guess.

[swift turret]

Noted and thank you, I will probably take it off then

[rocky sorrel]

oh god I spent like all day and night (10-12 solid hours) working on just the quest version and this is what it looks like as Quest perf rank I cannot wait to work on the PC version
don't worry I slept like 17 hours before hand and my sleep schedule is a nightmare, time to wake up like 2 PM today
I made the emission slider drive the primary color so it will have a hue slider for quest :D
Now for all of those little blendshapes that allow the user to customize it ^^

[rocky sorrel]

Yes or no, RGB mode (rainbow/auto hue shift) as an option for both quest and pc?

sleepy time

[dusky river]

The extended time was desperately needed since this kinda popped out of nowhere, been waiting for over two years to submit something to the public row list.
Assuming you win, would you be able to gift the one year vrc+ to someone else?

[deft lava]

same, I didn't even learn blender until after the last call for submissions.

[random parrot]

hey hey.
i have another question about the rules. >w<
specifically about the one relating to avatar height
"The submitted avatar should be around 152cm (~5'0") to 180cm (~6'0")."

basically my project is a deliberately short avatar. i could scale it up but i genuinely think it would loose a bit of its expressive power if i did.

i have a couple of questions about that one actually

first im wondering how strict that rule is given the "should be" rather than "must be"
im also wondering if this height is measured by avatar bounding box, height of the avatar mesh or by the height of the viewpoint...

normally these would be minor issues not worth asking about but i'd rather not risk getting my work disqualified because of something as easy to change as the height >_>

[deft lava]

I have a question. Will avatars rated medium not be able to qualify as fallbacks?

[deft lava]

I ask because I would like my submitted avatar to qualify as a fallback

[winter ore]

You can probably just remove the radial and arrow from the menu

Would still need to be good to be fallback

[spiral fulcrum]

Yeah, as far as I know only Good+ rated avatars can be fallbacks.

[spiral fulcrum]

The judges won't immediately disqualify an avatar outside of that range if its height is justified by its design.

[random parrot]

wonderful :3

[swift turret]

by that message did you mean the fly option? If it's for the height option, I could just lock it to 25% max or smth like that

[rocky sorrel]

It is probably not a problem so long as the height doesn't exceed the limits set by the jam-creators

so you could have it customize the height for a specific range

[rocky sorrel]

I'll be honest, I cannot wait to see what you have in mind for the avatar jam

[swift turret]

yeah I'm trying to get as much features as I can in the tiny window they gave us and I thought it would be a really good idea to put gogoloco because it is so spread out, I wanted to introduce it at least.

and I'm posting a few progress screenshots in my discord so I can get ideas of features. It's a shame I can't go higher than 2 contacts recievers without ending up in medium reating tho

[rocky sorrel]

blursed polygon count

9999 polys

[wanton crown]

dumb question

You may not directly mention storefront sites on/in the avatar or in its name, description, or thumbnail (like Booth, Gumroad, etc). It is okay to mention VRChat Groups, Discord, or Twitter.

the avatar has a small image inside of it that links to my website which is essentially a link tree, the website itself is not a storefront, but does have a link to the gumroad on it.. is that alright? or would that DQ?

[rocky sorrel]

needs a name, what about charcoal?

[winter ore]

Shawcroal

[rocky sorrel]

oh, what does that mean? ^^

[winter ore]

shadow + coal

add a r because sound better ?

[rocky sorrel]

o i gotcha

[abstract aspen]

Charcoal is an excellent name or Rawrcoal! 😄

[ashen ermine]

Greyscale

Makes you sound like a lord of somesort

[merry perch]

@wanton crown Momo sorta answered that question in the message I'm "replying" to. It sounds like it's allowed, I think?

[slate fable]

using shape key magic my avatar's going to have a customizable face, the eye and mouth choice will be interchangeable so you can have different combinations

[subtle talon]

Just out of curiosity, if the Quest version of the avatar is optimized enough to be fallback-worthy, would a winning submission get added to the default fallback avatars too?

[rotund cipher]

hello everyone

[spiral fulcrum]

We'll consider it, but it's not guaranteed

[subtle talon]

Completely understandable, was just generally curious.

[visual hearth]

do ya'll accept custom emotes or should the avatar have the very default ones?

[wanton halo]

We'll definitely accept them, but it depends on what you're going for! 😉

[rocky sorrel]

Its been a bit since I saw last saw you (e.g. SVRB), congrats on making into the VRC Team!

[wanton halo]

Haha thanks! Congrats on making it into the avatar jam. It's really exciting to see everyone's progress

[visual hearth]

nothing inappropriate or against TOS, just wanted to change it up from the default ones if its fine

But if I use animations made from someone else, will that be a problem?

[wanton halo]

You must legally be allowed to use the animations! You can find the jam terms and conditions here: https://hello.vrchat.com/avatar-jam-contest-terms

[visual hearth]

Just how important are the default emotes compared to having customization options like bigger body, chest slider etc.? I can't get the default emotes to work after adding sliders. Is it worth sacrificing the emotes for customization sliders?

[spiral fulcrum]

That's your call to make!

[visual hearth]

Hmm, alright. I just wanted to make sure of the importance of emotes, but if it's my choice I suppose it should be ok

[visual hearth]

I actually managed to figure it out 😅 Apparently the gesture manager in unity doesn't like the animations that much. But it's completely normal in-game

Whenever I update my avatar, do I have to re-submit?

[spiral fulcrum]

Nope, as long as you keep uploading to the same ID, your submission will point to your latest version.

[latent jewel]

Is there any info on how points work for things like "Use of Avatar Tech" vs "Parity Between Quest & PC" for example if an avatar has sound effects would you be better off removing them all for better feature parity?

Or for Phys Bones, should we remove them and aim for Excellent, or keep some and aim for Good on Quest? Basically: Do you gain 2 or more points back for making good use of Phys Bones?

[spiral fulcrum]

It's up to you how you want to balance things. The judging panel has the same instructions as you do!

[dapper storm]

kind of a silly question, but are we allowed to credit ourselves on the radial menu?

[spiral fulcrum]

I don't see why not

[winter ore]

Thanks to myself for making this avatar

[dapper storm]

I couldn't of done it without myself

[mild juniper]

i got a question on the hight of the avatar rule The submitted avatar should be around 152cm (~5'0") to 180cm (~6'0").
are you talking about real hight as in unity 1 box is 1 meter.
or are you using vrchats own measurment size the one u se in the avatar meny ?

since they work different kinda good to know which is referensed

[deft lava]

I feel like @winter ore is going to show up in the credits of a lot of avatars submitted to this jam.

[cunning oriole]

Vrchat does not have its own arbitrary measuring system separate from unity's meter.

[visual hearth]

I recommend going into an avatar testing world that has a height chart if you're unsure about the measurements, that's what I usually do anyways.

[winter trail]

My friend surprised me by having all his friend group wear my silly submission it was so sweet

[wanton halo]

That's awesome! 😄

[wanton halo]

Heads-up: We've begun rejecting a few submissions that didn't make it into judging.

Even if you've been rejected: Thank you so much for participating! Getting started as a VRChat Creators is a real challenge, so congratulations on making it into the jam. We're grateful that you took the time to submit the avatar, even if you didn't make it into judging.

Please let us know if you have any questions! ❤️

[rocky sorrel]

I haven't quite submitted my avatar yet, I'm making it as customizable as quest allows and am having 1-1 parity between quest and PC so (as a fallback) Quest players will get to enjoy and see everything PC players see for the fallback ^^ (and have some low poly props to mess with using blend shape tomfoolery as well), Will this affect anything judging wise?

[wanton halo]

That's awesome to hear! Giving Quest players the same features as PC players is definitely a boon.

Looking forward to seeing it! 🙂

[rocky sorrel]

Just a question, I used inverted normals on the visor so that you wouldn't see any clipping for the 2d facial expressions that use an emission map, is that appropriate? I've used inverted normals before in my designs, just making sure that it doesn't affect continuity!

its the same trick you used for the melons on your game 😉

*your and blueasis's

[wanton halo]

That's probably fine. It's a good trick, eh?

It's called an 'Inverted hull mesh' if you'd like to learn more about it.

[rocky sorrel]

ooo, good term I haven't heard, I'll check it out!

[rocky sorrel]

also, here is the respective PC version, It uses poiyomi pro 8.1
I made it have a fixed cubemap reflection so that it doesn't break in any worlds (some world designers forget to bake their cubemaps)
Would judges perfer that quest and PC users can customize the primary (in this case) and secondary (also in this case, emissives) colors?
It would make use of removing redundancies (e.g. having multiple uploads of the same avatar in different colors pre-AV3)

[wanton halo]

I think that's up to you!

Is this based on an existing character? Make sure that you have the license to use, modify and redistribute it!

[rocky sorrel]

Its an open species call the protogen, you are allowed to create your own and distribute copies of created characters as long as they are self made (In this case, from scratch!)
It was an open species created in response to the upsurge in the popularity of their privatized species that was characteristically a lot more "robotic", the creator of the protogen concept is Malice-Risu.
There is a lot of protogen media and art online, but far less in the 3D space ^^

[rocky sorrel]

spend the past two hours trying to refine some icons for the radial menu <3

I am by no means a 2d artist and I have no drawing tablet so it takes much longer to get something appealing to the eye

[winter ore]

try will a grass green color so you can balance the color better

since that the color of the wheel

[rocky sorrel]

not sure what you mean by that qwp
more icons!
Could you explain that? I'm a bit confused.

will need a bit of polish ^^'

[winter ore]

those icon end up on a green background so some color will blend in it

[rocky sorrel]

ohhhhh

[winter ore]

yeeeeee

[rocky sorrel]

That should be all of the icons! ^^
time to sleep

[winter ore]

You can add some kind of shadow on the icons so they get detach from the background

[rocky sorrel]

Will do, just need to find an online photoshop tool capable of that like photopea ^^

[winter ore]

Maybe in the future they give us a hue slider for the expression wheel

[rocky sorrel]

oh god I added eye tracking to the """"2d""" screen

god help us

mmm yes "eyes"

very limited eye tracking (imagine the tip of a circle intersecting a flat plane), but its at no performance cost, so why not!

its not because we should, but it because we can

[rocky sorrel]

nice, first test run, unity crashes!

good thing I saved before -w-

[rocky sorrel]

currently not workig so well -w-

[rocky sorrel]

it worked in the editor but not when the emulator was on, something about VRChat corrects any bone displacements in the eye making it impossible.

so working on emoticolors for now

[craggy kiln]

are we restricted to specific shaders on the PC side?

[timid wraith]

Nope, as long as you have the license to use it you can use whatever shader you want :p

[craggy kiln]

hm, not knowing the full extent of the poi or liltoon licenses makes me a might cautious but that works for me. Currently developing the Quest version primarily so it'll be a task for later on

[deft lava]

oh yeah, I should read up on the crosstone license.

its mit, so I'm good

[zealous otter]

Finishing up the final touches for my submission today, pretty happy with how this came out :>

[cunning oriole]

wow that looks so cool

[deft totem]

nice!

[radiant fossil]

Very nice, how do you plan on dealing with the wrist decorations on quest? they look like a plane and I'm fairly certain their aren't any quest shaders that can turn off backfacing culling.

[zealous otter]

They're fully mesh on both sides of the hand, no transparency involved luckily!

[winter ore]

They roll & roll

Mesh calligraphy is not expensive in triangle 📐

Transparent to mesh, easy to do. Get the knife 🗡️ tool

Cut, cut, cut

[radiant fossil]

looks fairly expensive to me, especially if you're looking to keep under 10k for compatibility.

the avatar I'm working on is sitting at 9400 right now.

[deft lava]

I saw Crazium's avatar in game last night. I was curious about that too, I was delighted to see it around 9,200 polys

I finished setting up the gesture/menu expressions. If you decided to use lip or eye tracking, that will disable the manual options.

[rocky sorrel]

9800 k polys, when I made it before the jam began (I heard about the avi jam being the next jam so I was prepping for it) it was around 25k polys, thank god for dissolving edge loops

[deft lava]

nice, it's good to see so many people hit <10k poly. The avatar I posted above is about 9.9k polys.

[rocky sorrel]

just need to know how many people are going in for this contest, do we have a number?

so far I count like six people competently going for this contest

the rest haven't said a thing so I don't know who else is participating

[rocky sorrel]

Is there any way to know how many submissions there currently are?
I'm kind of excited to see how many people have invested into the jam

[radiant fossil]

I imagine many of them aren't talking in here.

I wasn't planning on making one until I saw they extended the time limit since I had some other projects that needed finishing first. I did my first in-game test today but I have more work to do like facial expressions, maybe something to with contacts and maybe play with custom normals

Mine is sitting at 9.4k polys

[merry perch]

I'm auto-decimating almost everything that isn't a joint. This is my first quest Avatar, so hopefully it doesn't look too bad. Seems to preserve volume better than deleting loops out right. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rocky sorrel]

dissolve edge loops!
if you have a really good square topology always dissolve edge loops, it will look MUCH better in the end

especially with armature deformations .w.

[merry perch]

Using decimate, but leaving the patches & head intact, seems to look better than dissolving edge loops by hand at least on desktop, and keeps everything procedural (I only have to maintain the high res, desktop and mobile versions get generated from that). Decimate might be more viable than people expect. Just don't mess up the parts that move and there shouldn't be issues with deformation.

Am I allowed to post the avatar ID here for people to test it? I don't have a Quest, and haven't checked the Quest version in VR, so my slightly dirty trick might not be as nice in VR.

[merry perch]

Here's the Quest and PC versions:

[rocky sorrel]

quest poly count?

[rocky sorrel]

aaand its pretty much complete,
I cannot wait to see everyone else's submissions, see you april 3rd, all!

Here's the prompt for the jam, if anyone happens to be curious:
It is a animal-cybernetic protogen, with 1-1 Quest to PC parity, meaning every feature and trait present on one platform is compatible with the other (besides Poiyomi Pro for PC to make it look consistent in different lighting conditions) It features:
-Custom designed cartoon icons for the SDK3 menu.
-RGB Emissive customization using radial menu.
-Customizable fur color.
-Semi-2D visemes with lip sync and colored facial emotes based on hand gestures.
-Contact receiver interactions on the nose for interactivity.
-3 optimized physbone components on the ears and tail, respectively.
-Inverted hull mesh (Thank you Faxmachine <3 for clarification) for the face plate.
-Extensive Color and Body customization, including changing gender, leg proportions, tail spikiness, etc.
-FBT Compatible armature.
-Optimized and clean quad-mesh made using poly-building rather than sculpting via blender, ~9800 polys
-Excellent performance rank on PC and Good performance rank on Quest. (with respect to maintaining already minimal physbone use)
-VRAM usage according to each platforms limitations set by the VRC Team..
-Humanoid-focused body proportions.
-A RGB Hue-shift option compatible with both platforms that slowly transitions between all colors.
-The rather silly long snoot button (made a button so it doesn't become a nuisance) making use of the SDK 3.0.
I spent several dozen hours from start to finish on this avatar, and wanted it to be an optimized and fun character for all VRChat users to enjoy.

[merry perch]

9,974K :>

[rocky sorrel]

Hmm, is too late to ask @wanton halo to request that the "cyber critter" be made a fallback for all to use, where applicable (and) if approved?
That was the initial intention of making the avatar.

I started working on this avatar while I was in high school as a personal project and had it on the shelf waiting for it to have a home.

[wanton halo]

AFAIK fallbacks are not a requirement, but appreciated!
I don't think it will affect judging.

Thanks for using the fallback system 😄

[rocky sorrel]

Also, the VRCSDK loves to cut off images when viewed in the VRC Avatar Upload Screen, it would be neat to allow users to manually upload avatar images to prevent such an issue.

[rocky sorrel]

so I'll be redoing the image to try to fix that conundrum

pixel pressure really do hit hard

[rocky sorrel]

I found that VRChat uses Dosis for the font, so... yoink!

[rocky sorrel]

gotta fix some clipping issues with my visemes rq

also my floats aren't saving, fixxy time

[rocky sorrel]

time to polish the avatar some more

i just realized

after all this tiome

*time

it has no nose

but

its a robot

hmm

I should add afk anim overrides

and mute icon for the mouth

time to do that

[rocky sorrel]

what if I told you, blender render

I just had an idea

what if I bake the light bounces from the base emission into the emission map, effectively simulating raycasting for free

time to try it out

would help make the avi look a lot better for sure

wouldn't be able to do it on the face, of course, the face moves a lot

[rocky sorrel]

bro....

i am stunned by the results

[rocky sorrel]

bakery took a while even with a good GPU, I used substance to remove any continuity issues that might arise due armature deformations, I might try mixing the AO with it so that seams will be less obvious

menacing

^ how it looks in the unity editor btw

going to fix the shoulders, would look wierd having the light bakery for a t-pose done for an avatar that is typically going to be used with the arms in the down position

also solved the issue of the emissions generating phantom seams at distances, mip mapping caused a blurriness that was causing the bleeding of one uv island's colors to the other..

so its essentially flawless for now

time to update it

[rocky sorrel]

tomorrow i make the visemes snap and feel like how a display should using the viseme parameter option

[radiant fossil]

I didn't know bakery could bake textures like that.

I've only done it in blender, which I would recommend if you haven't tried. It's surprisingly easy.

[rocky sorrel]

did it in blender ^^

[radiant fossil]

Oh, you said "bakery took a while" so I assumed you had done the baking in bakery.

Looks good though!

[rocky sorrel]

heck yeah

[wanton halo]

6 days left! How's everyone else's progress going?

Don't forget to make your avatar

• Excellent, good, or medium
• Cross-platform compatible
• Write a submission description! It helps to know if you made it from scratch, or if you have the license to third-party assets

Let us know if you have any questions.
We'd love to see your progress!

[visual hearth]

Pretty much finished with my avatar! It has some customization features and other things c: I wish I could make color variations but I don't know how to with the VRCtoonshader

[cunning oriole]

Cute

[rocky sorrel]

somethings a little fishy about that fella

[rocky sorrel]

muhahahaha
now you can't get away from being muted

[visual hearth]

🐟

Ah that’s clever!

[rocky sorrel]

there is a toggle VRChat has embedded that makes it to where muted players can give some notification that they're muted, this will be it

[visual hearth]

Huh, never knew that. That’s pretty neat though

[rocky sorrel]

might make some holographic headphones for the ear mufflers

since that has a parameter too

at least since it was added

[rocky sorrel]

minor weight paibting issue, time to fix

[winter ore]

Slow down

[modest terrace]

Fast up

[rocky sorrel]

i type too fast someitmes

if not obvious

the keyboard I use is too clunky and is a hand-me-down

[brave mountain]

that is cool in a strange way, unusual shape

[rocky sorrel]

haha I thought VRChat would be tempted to make phones run VRChat, which is why I am accounting for this little thing called pixel pressure, the need for complex objects to be simplified in order to be visible on smaller screens

[radiant fossil]

I'm almost ready to submit my avatar for the Jam, just a few weight painting issues noticed last night when I had a friend test FBT.

[wanton halo]

Congrats!
Note that you can update your submission until the deadline closes.
(Though we may start looking at your avatar before then)

[rocky sorrel]

Good to hear, I think I should add some smoothing options to my protogens hand guesture emotes so people don't have a metaphorical stroke when people spam them 😅

[radiant fossil]

Submitted! Good luck to me!

lol

[rocky sorrel]

a new _IsPosed parameter?
you gotta stop giving me more features to use haha
I am now 19 today, and for that I'm going to spend a long time working on my avatar ^^, but I must sleep

[deft totem]

happy birthday! c:

[rocky sorrel]

thank's, spent some family time, now its down to business, I'm in this jam to win it >:)

now to make an ear mufflers icon qwp

[rocky sorrel]

i'm going to have to literally screenshot it on the desktop app

[rocky sorrel]

more stuff!

I couldn't go to the avatar meet qwp

ear muffled toggle so people know to speak close to you!

made exactly how the VRChat devs designed the icon!

[rocky sorrel]

hhhh work hours in the usa do be like that -w-

[rocky sorrel]

earmuff detection being uploaded ^^

[winter ore]

[rocky sorrel]

all of your metadata is mine

[winter ore]

What new skills did you learn

[rocky sorrel]

That making public and open tools for people to use will not garner you recognition so much as rather people bombarding you with either the same ideas or the same questions on how to use your tools that you make

[merry perch]

I've already added Color Customization‚ Body Type Controls‚ and AudioLink. I have expression blendshapes made but, I still need to set up the gestures. And GoGoLoco but I still need to go through and fix the poses for this model.
I wanted to add contact triggers, this jacket as a toggle, and a spinnable Scifi MAC-10's as a fidget toy, but I'm not sure I'll have time, do you all think what I have already is enough or...?

Won't include the guns, they're too edgy lmao. "fidget spinner guns for outrun cyborg T-Rex" sounded way cooler in my head...

[wanton halo]

Wow, that looks really impressive!

[fossil sparrow]

i really love this fella

[craggy kiln]

and they're submitted

[wanton halo]

Groovy!

[raven sapphire]

woah

[velvet shuttle]

I have question do faces equal polygon in unity because in blender I got my model to 9787 face but in unity its jumps to 13000 polygons even when I have keep quads checked on

[rocky sorrel]

It is really hard to get a human avatar into VRChat that doesn't fall into the uncanny valley honestly

[rocky sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_VI6J-d_dI the mustache may or may not remind me of this haha, great work ^^

[deft totem]

Triangles are the number to look for
also there's a difference in how Blender and Unity show the number of vertices - Blender shows the number of geometric vertices, whereas Unity shows the number of logical vertices, which is the actual number of vertices your GPU has to render
Seams, having multiple normals on a vertex, multiple vertex colors on the same vertex, etc can result in a geometric vertex being split into two or more logical vertices
https://docs.unity3d.com/2019.4/Documentation/Manual/ModelingOptimizedCharacters.html

[rocky sorrel]

I added a toggle for the color emotes and smoothed the transitions for them, so it looks much nicer on the eyes.
The avatar is fully complete, now for some cheeky spinning blender render to put in the channel!

(but I gotta upload it to both platforms first.)

[wanton crown]

Is the deadline tonight or by end of tomorrow?

[rocky sorrel]

if you go to VRChat website and log in you can see the exact time and date submissions close

[wanton crown]

Ahh perfect, thanks

[rocky sorrel]

due to technical limitations I have to set the color transition to zero because of the way unity transitions colors -w-

it always, and I mean ALWAYS goes to green in between colors for some reason

fixy time

so much SDK 3 logic, and bugs that come with it

[rocky sorrel]

fixed!

[spice pewter]

What time tomorrow do submissions close

[rocky sorrel]

if you go to VRChat website and log in you can see the exact time and date submissions close!

[amber vapor]

So close to the deadline, but I think I'm just about finished

Seems to be working on Quest well!

[rocky sorrel]

it is done

baked emission glowmaps, identical appearance (-shader used due to mobile-pc differences) between both platforms, physbone and customizable with SDK3, displays for mute and earmuffed, nose boop reactivity + fallback compatible
I'm happy how this turned out!

[lime niche]

its finally complete 🥲 swan has all the features i wanted and i just barely managed to squeeze excellent performance out of it (at the cost of my sleep schedule and sanity)

i will definitely be falling asleep in class tomorrow

[wanton halo]

Congrats, everyone! 5 hours left.

Feel free to ping me if you have any last-minute questions.

Don't forget that you'll need to write a description when you submit your avatar!
Make sure to disclose if you use any third-party assets in your avatar. Gotta have a license!

[deft lava]

Does the license need to be specified in the description? Like I link to the asset and it has MIT, but I don't say MIT in the description?

[deft lava]

A very specific situation I have is I used a turbosquid asset that is very permissive, but difficult to actually find the details on their website

[stuck kestrel]

I unfortunately cannot make the deadline for the Avatar Jam due to irl schedules and me hearing about the Jam only this past Wednesday.
It was something I thankfully had the idea for several months prior but was finally able to work on it this past Friday. It's fully modeled, rigged, and textured, but doesn't yet have its lip sync or expressions. I'm still impressed with how far I got.

Here are the specs
Tris: 5,716, would be more than ready for PC and Quest
PhysBones: 4-7, depending on if the hat and/or tail got physics, specifically on the Quest upload
Textures: 1, 1024 x 1024 pixels
Materials: 2, one for the main body, and the other to make the illusion eyes shadeless

I couldn't stay up to finish it last night as I had work in the morning, but I didn't want to upload something I didn't feel was ready. Should I just upload it as a public avatar once it's ready outside of the jam, or will these Avatar Jams be held a bit more often?

I wanted a sort of vintage toy look. Here's the sketch for Somnibun.

[radiant fossil]

That sucks you can't meet the deadline, it looks good too!

I see you're also using that vintage blender to make a vintage looking avatar 😉

[stuck kestrel]

Some of the plugins I use aren't updated for 2.8 or higher 😅
Thank you!

[winged monolith]

Of all moments for unity to have a moment I swear

[winged monolith]

Got mine in justtt on time 😅

[deft lava]

heck yeah

[wanton halo]

Awww that's adorable! I hope you'll still be able to share it with the community.
We'll definitely have more jams in the future, though they're not on a regular schedule.
Great job!

Speaking of which...

That's a wrap! 🎉 Thank you to everyone who participated in the 'Avatars for Everyone' jam.
I'm looking at the submissions right now, and they're amaaaaazing!! You all did a fantastic job.
Our judges will go through the avatars and we'll announce the winners at the end of the week. It'll be really hard to pick the 10 best avatars, but we'll do our best..!

In the meantime: If you spot a minor mistake on your avatar, feel free to fix it after the deadline. If you're one of the top entries and we spot any technical issues, we might even reach out to you.

Please let us know if you have any questions. Thanks for being a part of VRChat's amazing creator community. ♥

[merry perch]

I'm a bit of an idiot. I thought submissions closed sometime this evening, is it still too late to submit? There's still a few minor issue to fix though.

[fresh pecan]

I submitted the avatar in literally the last ~20s, and even then the quest version was still building, is there any way to check if my submission actually went through??

[wanton halo]

Feel free to send me the name of your avatar and I'll take a look!

[wanton halo]

Ah, sorry to hear that!
We don't usually allow late submissions, but feel free to send me the avatar ID and I'll see what we can do.
No promises though! 🤞Thanks for understanding.

Hmmm sorry @fresh pecan, I think your avatar might not have made it! If you joined successfully you should see it on https://vrchat.com/home/jams

[fresh pecan]

is there any way that i can still submit it? i even took screenshots and u can see 50 sec left on the timer and the quest version buiding in unity, i am suprised it didnt go through, i even quickly put something in the "why it should be chosen" (or whatever it was) form before i clicked submit

[merry perch]

It's avtr_76dc9802-d420-4a2e-93a1-cdcc4d035060 Thanks in advance.

[wanton halo]

Feel free to send me the avatar ID, and I'll see what I can do!
But I can't promise that it'll make it into judging. 🙏

[hoary thistle]

Ah shoot I forgot to specify in the little blurb we had to write for our avatars for 3rd party things the font I used in the icon was allowed for commercial use 🙏 hopefully not a big deal?

[rocky sorrel]

@wanton halo everything about my avatar except the thumbnail felt perfect, is there any way that (if accepted) I could redo it or have someone redo the thumbnail?
I don't have the adobe tools that make thumbnail creation easy!

this

[wanton halo]

Good to know! I don't think it'll be an issue.

[wanton halo]

That should be fine!

[rocky sorrel]

oki doki!, thank you so much!
I wish luck to everyone in the jam, I can't wait to see all of the submissions that others made ^^

[patent atlas]

Oh also if a thing gets picked would the uploaders have a chance to update it before going live or just the ability to update it later?

as we had an issue with getting icons made in time for it by the artist who made the first icons as we expanded things and I feel it makes the radial menu look a little barren

[copper vector]

I submitted mine a while ago but I didn't realize there was a channel for the jam! 😅

Good luck everyone! I'm glad I didn't see everyone else’s submissions before I submitted mine. Y'all look AMAZING!

Thanks VRChat team for giving us this opportunity! I 3d modeled my first avatar from this jam. 🥰

[winged monolith]

👁️ 👁️

[copper vector]

The longest work week of my life 😂
no pressure tho of course. Take your time, judges

[copper vector]

I do have a question tho, and you can answer after the results if you're not able to now, how many submissions were there?

[wanton halo]

Lots! Haha, we'll probably share the numbers soon.

Congrats on submitting your first avatar

[copper vector]

Sounds like you have your work week ahead of you haha

[wanton halo]

Yep!

[pearl wolf]

Forgot to post a photo of mine

[copper vector]

I'll post mine now too :p

[rocky sorrel]

@wanton halo new thumbnail, uploading now!

is it legible for people to see?
its simply that the VRC menu makes photos teeny tiny

would it be possible for you to upload the image directly to the avatar?
VRCSDK is a bit funky when it comes to preserving photo aspect and whatnot

nvm that, I get a bit too excited when I complete a big project ^^

[winged monolith]

Might as well pitch into posting our avatars!

[wanton halo]

Nice!

[worldly kite]

Hey I need some help. I just finished my model for the Jam and was about to submit it (wanted to get it as perfect as I could) but the submissions were closed. When I check the website this morning it said that it would be open until Midnight tonight but I just checked and they changed it to noon... Is there a way I could still submit since the time was changed last minute? I have been working hard on this model for the past weeks to get this prepped...

[wanton halo]

Hmmm, I think that might not be possible! Judging has already begun, so I'm not sure we'll be able to add additional avatars to it.

I'm noting down avatar IDs of avatars that weren't submitted in time, but they might not make it. Sorry!

[worldly kite]

Would you like me to send you the avatar ID?

[wanton halo]

Sure! But I can't promise that it'll make it into judging.

@fresh pecan , your avatar looks very nice. Did you create it from scratch? I love all the intricate details.

[worldly kite]

Thank you Fax. I was of the understanding that the submission period was until midnight tonight, so I thought I had more time. Let me post here:

avtr_ab5ae34f-3e70-49b6-84de-f836c8b232d3

[wanton halo]

@merry perch , you cybersaurus looks great! The customization options are really fun, and it's great that you managed to keep it so performant.

@worldly kite Thanks for trying to submit it! Unfortunately this avatar wouldn't be acceptable for the jam, as we're mostly looking for original avatars.
But it's a very funny design 😄

[hoary magnet]

Finished my beast of an avatar last night. Tried to match his style with his attitude.

[worldly kite]

Awww that is such a shame. I appreciate you checking it out.

[wanton halo]

In judging, you mean! The announcement of the winners will have to wait a little longer.

😄

[wanton halo]

I love how it turned out! Rage against the Featured Avatars.

[rocky sorrel]

Best of luck to everyone!

[worldly kite]

I really put my heart and sweat into this model haha

[merry perch]

It's beautiful. Knuckles has grown up into an handsome young man.

[merry perch]

Thanks!

[worldly kite]

Thanks so much! It was a battle to get my avatar as optimized as possible, but this Knucks is only 7300 polys haha. My first excellent rated model for Quest.

Made everything myself too! If nothing else, I learned a lot about model creation from this Jam. I appreciate you all for making this an event. Keep up the great work. Also, good luck to everyone else in the Jam!

[cunning oriole]

Wonder if it might be a good idea to have a avatar world for all the avatars that didn't win but were submitted for the jam so folks could easily find all of the nice optimized quest avatars

[winter ore]

Sound good

[radiant fossil]

Pictures of my submitted avatar

[winter ore]

Select 10 avatars is more difficult then anticipated.

[rustic mural]

i sure hope some quality anime style model

[winter ore]

they seen to be a minority

[rocky sorrel]

they noted that they may pick more than 10 if there are a lot of good candidates

[winter ore]

[fresh pecan]

yes i did hehe, i sadly didn't leave myself much time to do the unity work though xD

[limber torrent]

ah, somehow i missed this channel...
may as well post my submission here too!
https://fxtwitter.com/barkScript/status/1642943744969428994

[wanton halo]

Brilliant design!

[ashen ermine]

no one is going to know what the left hand is

[merry perch]

It's a "save icon" 😜

[ashen ermine]

how dare you be remotely close

[wanton halo]

I think you'll enjoy this overview of the current judgement scores 📈

A few probably shouldn't have made it into judging. But** most** submissions are pretty good!!

[ashen ermine]

who doesn't love a good line graph

[wanton halo]

Hats off to our judges. It'll be tough to decide which should be accepted into the row or not

[wanton halo]

Good? I tried to make it crude! 😄

[ashen ermine]

if it conveys the point, its good

[rocky sorrel]

I'm interested in how the "oh no" submissions look haha

[wanton halo]

Some are simple mistakes, i.e. forgetting to upload a Quest version, or not meeting our performance requirements

Some entries didn't quite work, or didn't work on a specific platform

We'll try to give feedback to creators who were affected.

[rocky sorrel]

Should the focus be having the best visual and performance parity between both platforms or should the focus be the best visual appearance that both platforms can muster given their restrictions?
I focused on the first one thinking that many would be confused on quest to always recieve comments about an amazing shader appearance that wouldn't be present at all on their platform.

[wanton halo]

The answer is:

It depends 😄

We could see the value in both!

I'd say some of the best submissions really took the theme and restrictions to heart.

[rocky sorrel]

IIn that case I'll give my PC version a shader work-over update in an hour or two, because I worked with the restrictions of quests platform for both while trying to achieve the best and consistent visuals, but maybe that doesn't always matter ^^'
Would that at all affect judging at this point? I don't want to cause potential confusion or issues.

[wanton halo]

It might be best to wait until judging has concluded.

You'll have a chance to make tweaks though, no worries.

[rocky sorrel]

Also, I hope you use the debug menu to test all parameters, since I use ones for mute and muffled and others may do so too ^^

[hoary thistle]

forgot to post my burger cat :3 I was trying to go for an excellent rating on quest but forgot that any physbones would set it to good 😔 i could've had more tris to work with

[limber torrent]

the curly fry tail is great lol
and yeah, i knew physbones would ding me on quest but i wanted that feature parity

[hoary thistle]

thank youu!! yea physbones add so much expressiveness to avatars

[copper vector]

sees cat avatar
immediately likes

[hoary thistle]

thank you!! 🥺

[cunning oriole]

Very cute

[rocky sorrel]

curly fries for the tail too, it looks amazing!

[hoary thistle]

wish i had custom emojis <3<3 thank yall!!!

[rocky sorrel]

Even for an excellent or good performance rank avatar I would easily have guessed that this avatar took as much resources as a 200k poly avi would take, great job!

absolutely mind blowing! ❤️

[limber torrent]

thank you!

[tranquil blade]

I agree. i love what people made

[ashen ermine]

Hell ya

[rocky sorrel]

the excitement is getting to me

[eager owl]

Thought I might drop some pics of my submission in here, just for fun
They were a fun project for me!

You can tip their lil hat

[copper vector]

i just want to say this is the longest week of my life

[rocky sorrel]

i concur

this is how i feel every second waiting for the jam results

[copper vector]

being my first jam, naturally im just

[craggy kiln]

spotted some minor rigging issues, would it be ok to fix?

i do not expect it to have any impact just asking to be sure

[dapper storm]

similar question, I noticed a small texture issue and wanted to know if it's okay to re-upload

[hoary thistle]

awwww adorable!

[eager owl]

Ty!!

[wanton halo]

@craggy kiln @dapper storm yes! Our judges have seen all submissions, and we're now going through the results.
Minor fixes are appreciated! We actually reached out to several creators when we noticed technical issues.

[potent minnow]

Incredible submissions by the way, it was super fun to look at everything

[slow river]

Thank you!! I too had a lot of fun and I also cannot wait to see the results and wish everyone good luck ^^

One question! If one were to get picked, can we update the thumbnail? I actually didn't get time to make a better thumbnail for the avatar ><

This was my submission and really wanted to bring an old design to life ❤️❤️ I love griffins

[deft lava]

That avatar is adorable

[cunning oriole]

So cute

Will you be making it a public Avatar even if you don't get picked @slow river

[copper vector]

i really think the public world for all these avatars that didnt make the cut is such a great idea

[slow river]

Yeah! I do wanna keep it public ^^

[cunning oriole]

Cool as it so cute

[slow river]

Cuteness was my priority with this one XD

[amber vapor]

I just realized my view point was not aligned correctly, I pushed a small update to hopefully fix that!

[craggy kiln]

fixed some minor issues with finger rigging and welded a loose vertex so it doesn't create a hole in their chest during certain arm movements

[visual hearth]

The anticipation is killing me 👀

[radiant fossil]

Lol, I'm totally nervous. I updated my thumbnail so it's not just my avatar A-posing in unity lol.

[copper vector]

same here!

[winter ore]

If you do all the thumbnail in unity, you can add pos processing to the camera and add anti aliasing. Will have less shimmering on the edge of mesh.

[spiral fulcrum]

Can’t wait to share the announcement tomorrow!

[copper vector]

do we have an estimated time?

[spiral fulcrum]

S O M E T I M E

[fossil sparrow]

my favourite time

[rocky sorrel]

time o clock

[slate fable]

are we allowed to swap the shader at this time? i have standard lite for my PC version upload but it looks odd in some worlds with post processing, want to swap it for normal standard

oh just read above minor fixes are alright, just gonna assume it's ok

[merry perch]

Were you able to get the submissions that just barely missed the deadlines in for judging?

[wanton halo]

Sorry, I wasn't able to enter then late 😞

It turned out to be difficult to sneak those in. I hope that doesn't discourage you from participating in future jams! Please try to submit before the deadline next time. You can keep updating your entries, even if you submit early.

[wanton halo]

Yep! We'll make that more clear next time around.

[copper vector]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-hiiiii-tjebbe-cant-wait-spongebob-teeth-on-lips-gif-22994639

[tranquil blade]

I can't wait for the creations!

[merry perch]

Alright, thanks anyway!

[tiny vapor]

🥁 🥁 🥁 🥁 🥁 12 mins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cALAazmFswc

[rocky sorrel]

.0.

[rocky sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-22727788

[slow river]

[rocky sorrel]

3 1 0 participants

oh dear

that is
a LOT

[radiant fossil]

That is a lot more than I expected.

[tiny vapor]

that one guy uploading the same avi hue shifted slightly 250 times

[rocky sorrel]

10 till stream starts (seconds)

[tiny vapor]

🥁 🥁 🥁 🥁 🥁

[rocky sorrel]

Congratulations everyone, there were so many good avatars!

I fell in love with a lot I saw <3

[tiny vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[dark glade]

Was linked in the stream description, but sharing here https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/avatars-everyone-winners

That was awesome! Excited to start seeing these around. Well done everyone ^_^

[rocky sorrel]

I wonder what the fallback avatar row will be changed to, if it is changed, there are a lot of great candidates I saw such as Craz's Magester avi

but yet again, with the implementation of imposters, maybe that won't be needed as much as I once thought.

[craggy kiln]

im so happy you added so many to the public row too

[abstract aspen]

Great job everyone, so many amazing avatars thank you so much for your hard work!

[abstract aspen]

When we have accurate performance rankings for everything, all the avatars which are good or better on both PC and Quest will become fallbacks! Soon ™️

[hidden crest]

Wait are all the finalists and winners being added???

[copper vector]

So glad that I dont have to wait and stress now haha

[hidden crest]

Or just the winners

[copper vector]

congratulations everyone!!!

[hidden crest]

Video confused me a tad lol

[rocky sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hi-hello-bye-gif-15388121

[hidden crest]

YOOO @sonic oar

[abstract aspen]

(Yes!)

[limber torrent]

congrats y'all! incredible to see all these new avatars for everyone!

[deft totem]

congrats y’all!! o:

[wanton halo]

Thank you for participating! ♥♥♥
As stated in the blog post, we'll give each creator feedback on their submission next week. https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/avatars-everyone-winners

Happy Easter!

[visual hearth]

Congrats to the winners! I am happy that I made it to the finals though!

[violet pasture]

so I got in the finalists (because my avatar thumbnail is in that picture) ?

oh god its actually in game Im so releaved

[vast dagger]

Everyone made such good avatars 😄 Congratulations all around!!!

[visual hearth]

In my head I thought there just going to be 10 winners, no finalists. Glad there is though!! Now there's so many new options c:

Thats so good to hear. Everyone did an amazing job!

[violet pasture]

jeah the new row is great

[swift turret]

I didn't even make it to the finals ;-;

imma go back to making accessories ig

[violet pasture]

Im sure you did your best

just keepon going ^^

[ebon kraken]

Woah, that's awesome! Congratulations on the hard work, everyone :3

[lapis kayak]

Finny was my favorite submission!! Thank you for making them!

[visual hearth]

:O oh wow. That makes me happy to hear! Thank you for liking them!

[lapis kayak]

❤️

[swift turret]

Oh my friend asked me a good question. Asking what placement/scoring I got. Is there one or was it just by the three categories (finalists, winners and the others)?

Oh and one other question, is there gonna be a list of all the submitted avatars?

[zealous otter]

So many incredible avatars added to the public row 🥹
Congrats to all of the finalists, winners, and whoever made an avatar for the jam in general!!

[slow river]

Little question!! Is it ok if we improve a few things on the avatars, even if the ranking changes a bit? I really wanna add physbones to mine tho it will make the ranking go from Excellent to Good on quest, can we do stuff like this or should the ranking stay the same?

[wanton halo]

minor fixed and changes are appreciated! but it's best to give us a heads-up so we can provide feedback.

in your case, dropping to 'good' on quest would be acceptable 😄

[slow river]

I knew that would be the case! I'll keep that in mind ^^ thank you for the response!

Was a little bit rushed so I want to fully flesh out the avatar ✨

[copper vector]

Yeah even tho I didn't make it into the finalists, id love some feedback

Edit: just saw y'all are emailing us with feedback, disregard this

[smoky spruce]

Amazing work and much love to all the creators!
they were all really great submissions 💚

[slate fable]

didn’t expect there to be so much submissions this time around, some fantastic talent and creativity here!!

glad my little hooded guy can make it onto the list

[limber torrent]

good to know, there was still a few things i wanted to add
i'll keep y'all updated if there's anything too drastic!

[patent atlas]

How does one give you guys a heads up like here or in email or something?

[wanton halo]

Just send me a message! 👉😎👉

[patent atlas]

OK doki as yeah def wanna add icons to the radial as it's super early 3.0 looking ;w;

[magic sedge]

awww yall had to use my temp icon nooooo 💀

i was stuck in the airport yesterday and the day before, so i blame orlando

[limber torrent]

my temp one got used too. lol

[magic sedge]

rippp

[limber torrent]

c'est la vie

[magic sedge]

...heeeeeere's what it probably would've looked like if i didn't just make it last night hehhh

[fossil sparrow]

congrats for that top left one for being used as an impostor example lol

[wanton halo]

Haha sorry! It's what you submitted 😉
The actual in-game icon uses your latest submitted thumbnail.

[magic sedge]

it will forever live as a meme

[wanton halo]

hahaha

We only replaced a single thumbnail out of all 180 because it was broken, all others were shown as they were submitted.

[magic sedge]

oh yeah, obvious enough, but with the massive spaghetti of blend trees and shapekey magical code i had to visually script, not 100% of it is sound- I'm gonna polish out a few weightpaint bits and some kinda bug with the expressions menu in the near future :0

[fossil sparrow]

these are all super cute congrats to the winners and everyone who participated in the jam in general

[magic sedge]

oh also i'd wanna add some more "randomize" bits, maybe even redo the code a little cause "randomize" is just a random 1 of 8 presets for now :p

so either more random combos or make it actually randomize if things are on/off

[abstract aspen]

The randomize feature that many had was awesome and as a bonus made it really easy to test all the customization!

[magic sedge]

ohh awesome, thanks so much

[abstract aspen]

( 😇 totally not hinting that more of the avatars could also use that feature if there are a lot of options, makes it easier for people to find an avatar that fits them well )

[magic sedge]

yea

ohhh actually, here's another idea I have

I have extra parameter memory room for this:
but the one thing I dislike about avatars with all this customization, is you lose your preset if you ever wanna play around with the avatar's other randomizing bits

I have room to make a Slot 1 and Slot 2, and I'd love to add that sometime in the future! That way you can have the character you made and a fallback incase you wanna revert to your old one

essentially- just duplicate all the layers, and dupe your parameters with a "Slot 2" distinction to them

I reeeeally wanna do that, I hope it wouldn't be too massive of a change though

[tired lodge]

Wow, all of these avatars are great.
The only one I find disappointing is that "Mr. Mycelium" guy's avatar.
The judges must have given him a pity vote or something.

[sonic oar]

Happy sounds is all i can say

[tiny vapor]

I was abt to say you're chatting complete shit til I read your name xd

[rocky sorrel]

hmm, I could implement that today, I just don't know how to randomize @~@

[cunning oriole]

Congratulations to everybody that made it into the finalist list

[spiral fulcrum]

We'll send out emails next week to all entrants with some information about their scores!

[radiant fossil]

I noticed none of the fallback avatars changed. You should consider putting some of the finalists in that category too.

[spiral fulcrum]

We will take a look at that next week, yes.

[radiant fossil]

I wouldn't feel so bad, I'm pretty sure mine is the only one that is the default unity thumbnail.

Wait, I see one more lol

[magic sedge]

oof

[radiant fossil]

I've updated since but not in time for that image.

[dapper storm]

Are we able to continue making some tweaks to the avatars? I noticed one more tiny thing I may or may not try to fix 👀

[lapis kayak]

yes!

[wanton halo]

Thanks for giving us a heads-up, Marino!
Minor tweaks and fixes are appreciated.
We'll clarify all that in an email next week, since it's a common question.

[copper vector]

So looking back I realized I was working under the assumption we were making fallback avatars, not the “public” avatars. 😂 whoops.
At least I now have my own custom fallback avatar!

[merry perch]

Does anyone have any idea of what I should do with the avatar I made but screwed up when I came to submit?

Usually when stuff like this happens, I try to bury it, and forget about it, but I figured it might be better to be a bit less wasteful this time.

[lapis kayak]

what do you mean by screwed up your submission?

[merry perch]

Just about finished it, then missed the deadline.

[lapis kayak]

Due to the success of this jam, we'll most likely have another one in the future! You can save it until then if you'd like ^^

there is also nothing stopping you from releasing it as a public avatar and having people wear it too

[merry perch]

Ah that's good to hear, I'll keep an eye out.

[heavy scroll]

Are the avatars available? Or was it for show and tell?

[spiral fulcrum]

Yep, all the finalists and winners are in the default avatars row in VRChat!

[heavy scroll]

Cool cool

[winter ore]

In all glories

[mild nymph]

I just saw this! i checked out your artstation & your work is beautiful!! do you have twitter or anywhere i can follow your work? 😮

pls ping, i will forget to check this channel

[echo badge]

Will there ever be more avatar jams? I want these little events frequently

[abstract aspen]

There will be more jams for sure!

[amber vapor]

Oh thank you so much! My art station will probably be the best place to follow my work atm

[mild nymph]

understood, i did do the following over there! again, great stuff

[amber vapor]

I am a little sad I didn't make it to the finalists but I am excited to hear feedback!

[dull river]

I'm in the same boat. I'd really love to know where my avatar needs improvement

[slate walrus]

disappointed yadoka wasn't a winner, I was actually considering purchasing that avatar before its maker decided to make it public with this jam. Also is there a place where I can find the avatars that didn't make it into the finals?

[worldly kite]

Slightly unrelated, but tied to the submission I had made for the Jam. If I made my model Fallback ready and someone else favorites the model, does that allow them to also set it as a fallback?

[cunning oriole]

nope only avatars you upload yourself can be custom fallbacks for yourself

there is currently no public Avatar fallback system

[abstract aspen]

The finalists that are good performance or better on both Android and Standalone will be marked as public fallback available sometime this week 🙂

[mild nymph]

What about those that make an effort to update the performance after the fact? any recourse for them?

[abstract aspen]

I think there will be an email going out with feedback which will encourage finalists to make the avatars fallback ready, but that's up to the creators if they want to 🙂

[mild nymph]

Awesome, thanks

[winged monolith]

It's gonna take a bit of getting used to for seeing all the new fallbacks, can't wait!

[winter ore]

Bunny & gecko

[rocky sorrel]

@wanton halo or any other dev, I once saw a neat little trick, if you have a controller in the animator slot, it will run that in the preview in the VRC menu, but won't run in when using the avatar, will use this for a neat little trick to make it do a cool lil dance in the VRC menu ^^
at least, if that is okay

actually, I think that's been fixed

I recall a time when people could animate their avis in the menu

I've seen it once in the VRC menu, animations can really help give users an idea of how an avatar deforms and expose parts of the avatar that aren't usually visible in the menu with a static rotating character

[winter ore]

Having a transition TrackingType greater then 2 after the first state in the base controller will do the same.

Leave the animator empty

[rocky sorrel]

would you mind demonstrating?
I don't deal with unity animator logicstics too much .w.

[winter ore]

Check gogoloco

You have a state with the animation you want then the transition after have the condition. TrackingTyper greater the 2. That about it

[rocky sorrel]

I'm still clueless, could you dm screenshots or something along the lines @~@

your help is appreciated ^^