avatar-help

[somber sequoia]

weight paint, export model, import into Unity, whatever setup you do, etc.

[drowsy crane]

its not letting me upload my avi, I have no lcue what all of this means

[somber sequoia]

not a useful message - see the first pin in here on how to post the ones that'll help

[drowsy crane]

???

[somber sequoia]

was that a question?

[lilac musk]

In this discord channel, check the pinned messages. You'll find the first pin is on how to find more specific error messages for us to be able to help you.

[drowsy crane]

like this??

[somber sequoia]

Is that the only error message?

[drowsy crane]

yup

[somber sequoia]

that's very strange.

[drowsy crane]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

in that pinned message, it explains that you should post the whole console window so we can see the scroll bar and error count in the upper-right corner.

[drowsy crane]

idk why, bc my avatar uploaded just fine yesterday

[somber sequoia]

Please do that in the future, it helps a lot.

[drowsy crane]

the 45 thing is due to poyomi

but thats literally the only one

[somber sequoia]

That's fine, it's just often people say they have one message but have not actually scrolled up.

[drowsy crane]

ah

why is it not letting me upload out of nowhere tho?

[balmy barn]

yellow ones might be yelling connections terrible

[pallid drift]

how might i be able to make his head do a 360 like this using a slider? i have an 2 separate controllers, one of them is the normal regular controller attached to the root and the other i attached to the head bone

[balmy barn]

cant talk to another animator, do it from root of your avatar

animate from there, not some other

[pallid drift]

thank

[balmy barn]

head is also assigned to humanoid so you need to do some things to make it animate or it wont (constraint is a easy way)

[pallid drift]

thank x2

[onyx bloom]

buh, in this video, I dont have half of the things they added to the avatar :c

[supple marsh]

Which video

[obtuse trail]

(Bump) Anyone? 🥹

[balmy barn]

i never liked 0 time, seen that fail lowest id go is 0.1

but other then that i dunno

[violet elm]

Im confused about avatars

When i upload quest version of avatar

Can people see it on pc or no

[balmy barn]

we cant, upload a pc ontop of it

[violet elm]

How do i do that

[balmy barn]

switch build to pc , upload it over it using same blueprint id

[violet elm]

[violet elm]

ook i got it now

ty

[pine valley]

They will only be able to see the PC version of the avatar

so if you've only uploaded a Quest avatar, then your avatar won't work for PC players

but ye – if you upload both versions to the same ID, it'll work!

[violet elm]

yup ive seen on yt

how to do it now

the id thing

[pallid drift]

question, does an avatar NEED shoulders?

like does it need shoulders to successfully build?

[lilac musk]

Yes

[pallid drift]

im so rucked...

[low gulch]

idk what couldve caused this
why is this happening? it wasnt screwed up like this before :(

[low gulch]

nvm idk what i did but it fixed itself lol

[surreal ridge]

im trying to upload an avatar to quest, switched the shaders and unlocked them and tried idk what to do

[dusk locust]

So I just made my first VRchat Avatar and ported it into the game, and the body moves with the head for some reason? and the arms dont work

[night ember]

do what now

like its in tpose or?

[dusk locust]

I made the Avatar in blender and followed some tutorials on how to port a model into unity and followed all the steps then uploaded it to VRchat

[dusk locust]

Its not in a Tpose, theres hand tracking, its just that the chest is not where it should be (its still connected to the model but its far back for some reason)

[night ember]

can you screenshot

[dusk locust]

Well the pc vers looks good but the feet are in the floor for some reason

id have to get in vr and at the moment thats a bit difficult

[night ember]

show it in unity/blender

[dusk locust]

The camera View for it is noticably forward even tho the view is set in-between the eyes

[night ember]

and what about the rig tab

[night ember]

that armature doesnt even look like its built for vrchat

[dusk locust]

?

Sorry if my responses get super slow

[night ember]

wdym by the arms dont work

also what about in blender

[minor trail]

I agree with this.

Is this model from another game??

[robust coral]

how do i get thoses ? pls help.

[minor trail]

Unfortunately that is someone's custom model and those glasses might be hard to find

[obtuse trail]

this has to do with both the avatars arm proportions and the placement of the player camera

[robust coral]

ya i know... but i really wanted thoses lol

[minor trail]

Better start searchin. Lol

[supple marsh]

You're better off doing something similar tho

[robust coral]

im trying. but is glasses free ? in the market place ?

[supple marsh]

Depends

On booth there's free and paid ones

But that's given you have an avatar base you wanna edit

[minor trail]

Some are, some aren't

[robust coral]

sorry for thoses questions. but how do i see glasses in market place ?

[supple marsh]

Marketplace?

[somber sequoia]

this channel is about avatar creation, not really in-game stuff, you might try one of the general ones.

[night ember]

wdym "marketplace"

[somber sequoia]

the in-game one I'm assuming

[flint kite]

So i got this avi from a store and its giving me this error. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[supple marsh]

Yes

Do you really need everything that the avatar has packed with?

[flint kite]

i can remove a few stuff

will that help?

[supple marsh]

Can I see the avatar hierarchy and the avatar itself if possible

[flint kite]

here

[supple marsh]

Jesus

[flint kite]

ehm

yeah.

[supple marsh]

Oh lord...

And how much did you pay for this? This is still fixable dw

[flint kite]

around 35

[supple marsh]

Oh lord

😭

[flint kite]

😭

[supple marsh]

Yeah you're gonna have to cut down

[flint kite]

500mb

[supple marsh]

a lot

[flint kite]

ah-

[supple marsh]

Because you really, really don't need all of that on a single avatar

[flint kite]

yeah.. true so should i just remove the stuff i won't use?

[supple marsh]

100% do that

[flint kite]

okayy

[supple marsh]

Also try reducing texture memory

[flint kite]

how to

[supple marsh]

I am convinced 99% of those textures are 4k for some reason

[obtuse trail]

theres nothing that says you cant upload separate versions of the avatar with stuff you take out from this one. You can have them with themes, like winter or summer clothes

[flint kite]

yeahh i might do that

[supple marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r__mrVYfPbA&t=216s

[flint kite]

no wonder my friends are always yelling at me for my avis

[supple marsh]

Yeah not because they want em

Because they're the average black cat eboy with their textbox stating their PC specs, music they're listening to, heart rate BPM and some edgy quote 😭

[flint kite]

😭

alr wait lemme try fixing this

[supple marsh]

People really can't be selling avatars like this sob

[primal egret]

maybe not the best place to asking for modeling help spefically, but im tryna make one of my ocs in my style, and maybe some general tips and pointers will help? theres a lott of tutorials but thats mostly for making sure it actually animates niceley instead of how it looks, so
image is what i have so far and a ref of how i draw my characters

[somber sequoia]

haha this is why people say "VRChat is unoptimized"

[flint kite]

finally

ty for helping guys

[burnt hull]

can someone help me? i dont understand what these means when i go to gesture manager

[somber sequoia]

click on those states, look in the "clip" slot - it could be empty of have a bogus clip there

[burnt hull]

this? the only empty one would be the tracking lock

[somber sequoia]

well empty ones don't do anything, so I can see why it might say that

[burnt hull]

okay that fixed it but my gestures still dont work in game but it works in gesture manager lol

[stiff cedar]

I have a question not really about avatars. Is their a way I can set up my VCC Manage Package without doing it every time?

[somber sequoia]

you mean for each new project you have to install all the things you use? iirc you can make a project template for that

[stiff cedar]

How do I do that?

[plush shuttle]

Yall know any good mortal kombat avis for quest 3?

[iron sequoia]

i keep getting this error and im connfused "NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder+<>c.<CreateContentInfoGUI>b__100_0 (System.String selected) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1541)
UnityEngine.UIElements.PopupField1[T].GetValueToDisplay () (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0) UnityEngine.UIElements.BasePopupField2[TValueType,TValueChoice].SetValueWithoutNotify (TValueType newValue) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0)
UnityEngine.UIElements.PopupField1[T].SetValueWithoutNotify (T newValue) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0) UnityEngine.UIElements.BaseField1[TValueType].set_value (TValueType value) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0)
UnityEngine.UIElements.PopupField`1[T].set_value (T value) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.HandleAvatarSwitch (UnityEngine.UIElements.VisualElement root) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1740)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncMethodBuilderCore+<>c.<ThrowAsync>b__7_0 (System.Object state) (at <27124aa0e30a41659b903b822b959bc7>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext+WorkRequest.Invoke () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.Exec () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.ExecuteTasks () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)
"

[unborn mason]

Hey I'm tryna fix some stuff in the radial menu not being in the spot I want and move settings to push gogo loco to the front menu, is there a guide to how to do this? I'm kinda new to uploading avatar and this is annoying me to hell and back 😭

[dusk locust]

This is my own original model that I made over thr course of a month, its the first model ive ever made and rigged/textured and I just wanted to put it in vrchat

I originally made it for animation for my friend but he asked if I could port it into vrchat and I said id try my best

[minor trail]

The armature doesn't look like it's for or suited for vrchat. I'm not the one to ask how to do so because I'm new to blender and know the bare minimum but I recommend using the CATS plugin.

I THINK it can help you rig it for VRChat

[dusk locust]

No offense meant here but, I am not exactly sure how accurate that information is, since this is a fairly basic model that does have stuff added in but also Ive played vrchat for awhile and seen way weirder proportions than this

[somber sequoia]

I don't know, I don't use it, but I saw it mentioned on documentation website

[dusk locust]

Maybe I can change the position of the bones?

[somber sequoia]

usually not a useful error on its own

[stiff cedar]

Alright thx

[brittle grove]

really really quick, how do I get to this version of vrchat sdk? it just cancelled my upload because of it 😭

[iron sequoia]

well my sdk wont let me upload anything because of it

[somber sequoia]

Manage your project with VCC or Alcom, upgrade the SDK there

[somber sequoia]

is that the only error shown?

[brittle grove]

LOL i just found it thank you

[minor trail]

Unsure

[iron sequoia]

yeah

[dusk locust]

Could you tell me more?

[dusk locust]

I know a lot of assets and models come from blender and while my rig is custom it cant be that far apart from what others have done, and it works almost completely fine in PC mode on VRchat itself as I have tested it there

I mean the feet clip through the floor but it is working

Vr mode it kinda dies

[somber sequoia]

There's a pic of an ideal VRChat rig pinned in #avatar-rigging

[minor trail]

Desktop is VERY different as far as rigging. VR is going to be the problem most likely

[dusk locust]

Yes you are right

[dusk locust]

Ohhhhhhhhhh…

Oh…

I’ll get back to you after I fix bone proportions on my model lol, as that might explain why when I look down i lose half my height

Oh wait

Oh no

[somber sequoia]

if you look down and your viewpoint moves too much, it might be that the viewpoint is too far forward. happens often with furries, people want to move it out along the muzzle

[dusk locust]

I also added eye tracking for animation which is far in front of the eyes, those are bones, that might also be an issue

[dusk locust]

You can see it here

[dusk locust]

^

he is hunched forward a bit so could be that

[somber sequoia]

eye bones have nothing to do with the viewpoint

[dusk locust]

Isnt the viewpoint the white sphere?

[somber sequoia]

Yes

[dusk locust]

Yeah its in-between the model of the eyes if you look closely in the picture I replied to

[somber sequoia]

oh I see, didn't notice that

[dusk locust]

Could bones in front of the head cause the issue im having?

Like 3-4 feet in front of the head say

Cause those are my eye animation points

I forgot to remove them

[somber sequoia]

did you have a pic with those shown? but they wouldn't have anything to do with viewpoint

[spice sequoia]

On this type of setting, when it says high, is it for the priority or the volume?

[somber sequoia]

priority - those labels are below the slider

[spice sequoia]

ah

that explains why the sound is so low

I was wondering I thought I set it to max

[somber sequoia]

spine looks a little crooked and it's not quite t-posing, and you have some extra bones, but it looks ok overall

[dusk locust]

would any of these cause the issues im experiencing?

like should I even bother fixing proportions

[somber sequoia]

I admit I didn't scroll back to see what issues you were having, I just picked it up when you said 'custom rig'

[dusk locust]

So my head and torso seemed to be doing a weird... things

like they are connected?

and the shoes wont properly sit on the ground

even on pc mode

[somber sequoia]

shoes not on the ground is likely positioning - make sure the avatar is standing on 0,0,0 and all transforms are applied on all armature and mesh objects.

the rest of that, no idea without seeing it

[somber sequoia]

wtf is this video

[dusk locust]

Ahem... Im not good at recording in br

vr

[obtuse trail]

Anyone want to give this a shot? I am quite stumped 😞

[primal egret]

if youre on pc obs is good for that

[quasi fjord]

how to fix the shorts? it looks like its connected but in blender its fine and doesnt move/stretch like that at all

[night ember]

you can have only a maximum of 4 bones weighted to each vertice

[quasi fjord]

?

sorry im very new to this. so how do i fix?

[night ember]

if its that blender has a limit weight thing but its iffy at best

[quasi fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-dog-dog-loading-dog-confuse-corgi-wide-corgi-gif-5677220482674247561

[stuck wadi]

how do i combine peramiters together or somthing

im making a avi but for it im using a prefab but it has a seprate peramiter so how do i use both ?

[real adder]

dose anyone know how to put already set up avatars in my vrc account?
like already completed avatars

[night ember]

combine parameters in what way
like both toggles use the same parameter or one toggle also toggles the other parameter while keeping is separate?

[real adder]

dose anyone know how to put already set up avatars in my vrc account?
like already completed avatars

[night ember]

avatars from where

[solid hollow]

Idk if this is where I’m supposed to say this but, is there anyone who wants to make an avatar for free for me? That would be very helpful, thanks. Also i haven’t thought of what i want… yet.

[night ember]

this isnt a commission server all you are going to get are scammers

[solid hollow]

I see thx diven👍

Do you know any other discords that are aren’t full of scammers?

[stuck wadi]

just adding them to the expressions menu

[night ember]

what

youd just add them to the parameter list asset that is in the avatar descriptor
but I dont see how that is related to combining parameters

[stuck wadi]

idk im new to this

[ornate stump]

?tag comm

[flat musk]

Hey ho 👋 I see you're looking for commissions.

You will probably receive DM's or friend requests from scammers now (or later) that will try to offer you their services. 😖

🚫 Absolutely DO NOT engage with those, regardless of how competent they might seem or their excuse to why they contact you.
This is unsafe practice used by scammers, and also breaks this Discord's rules. 👮

If you seek a creator, check out VRCTraders and follow their protocols strictly 🥺
(You will get DM from bot to verify your account upon join.)

🌠 It's extremely important to always DEEPLY investigate the account and social media of the person you plan to commission.
Is their social media linked in Discord? Is it legitimate? Are the references stolen? (Try to reverse image search posts to check.) 👀
The quality of fake profiles out there can be crazy good, be aware of that and NEVER engage with DM or friend requests that originate from the artist.

When in the slightest doubt, do not commission them and contact the moderators of the involved communities. 😱

[ornate stump]

Scammers are lerking everywhere. VRCTraders just has a way to confirm that a person is verify that they are real.

[west cipher]

stocking have merged at this one vertex, tried to split em but nothing is working. any tips?

[prisma monolith]

yo how do i fix my emotes being selectable but not having the usual ring ontop of the menu toggle that shows it's selected?

because of tihs issue I can switch between emotes but I can't stop them and I'm stuck playing the selected one

[orchid blade]

How can I add another character rig onto my avatar as an accessory and have it be animated such as sitting on my head?

[balmy barn]

as a seperate object , can move it anywhere on your av after even drop it in world - if you mean like a hat

[orchid blade]

Im pretty much trying to have another character as an accessory like them sitting on my head or piggybacking

i tried and it works in playmode but it just goes into t-pose when i upload it

[night ember]

Are you trying to use an animator for it as well or something?

[timber wharf]

@orchid blade youd have a separate animator for it and have only one animation on it as the only state

cant control child animators

[opal light]

Hi! I am having trouble with the feet of my avatar. In particular, when I am in game or use the gesture manager to test it in unity, the feet turn inwards!

I have no idea what could be causing this, help!

OK I fixed it! for some reason when I was in the configure panel for the rig, the feet was rotated. I rotated it back so that it is facing forward.

I think it automatically rotated it because it used the toes on the far ends for the toes

[crystal whale]

Question: Why is my avatar audio muted in unity playtest. I can't hear any of the things that should have sound. I checked to make sure teh sound is turned on, audio listener is in the scene, etc.

[ornate stump]

Do you actually hear any sound if the audio source isn't a part of the avatar?

[crystal whale]

the audio sources are part of the avatar

[ornate stump]

Wrong answer. Read my question again.

[crystal whale]

Yes.

[ornate stump]

Are you using audio clip apply directly to audio source, or using animator play audio behavior?

[crystal whale]

animator playing audio.

[ornate stump]

I don't remember if gesture manager can emulate the sound. Did you also tested in game?

[crystal whale]

Not Yet. But the last time i fiddled with it, gesture manager did let me hear the sound in playtest mode

[ornate stump]

Do you confirm the layer state logic can work correctly?

[crystal whale]

yes

currently test uploading to see if it still work

it work

[woven nacelle]

Does anyone know where I can get free assets and everything like body etc for a beginner like me who wants to start making avatars and do commissions but I need them to be free sorry I am U employed and still in college but yea I need help someone please??

[ornate stump]

Look for listing websites like jinxxy and boothplorer.

[woven nacelle]

I did look for jinxxy but I could only get female body and head not males

[ornate stump]

Keep looking. You also could get humanoid models from other 3D model websites.

[woven nacelle]

Totally so new to this lol even the words confuse me

But I will look for it

And tell you

[ornate stump]

What exact words? Humanoid is just literally something shaped like a human.

[ornate stump]

You don't have to.

[woven nacelle]

Ohh okayy

Thxx btwww

Have a Nice day

[tough hill]

Anyone quick question regarding the bounding box. No matter how big the avatar is. Everyone can still see it? Even if it's ranked VeryPoor?

[ornate stump]

You would have to separate topics about the actual mesh bounding box culling vs blocking by performance rank.

[woven nacelle]

I need help again. someone who is willing to help me yess I ask a lot of questions so I'm sorry but if anyone knows about avater making and stuff someone who isnt new to it but I will accept recommendations but can anyone dm me about this please??

[ornate stump]

It's recommended to start learning from here first https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495. And if you have more specific question, you could just ask your question in this channel.

[somber sequoia]

'v' to "rip" that vertex.

[rose vine]

So what do i need to do with this is says its missing the face tracking stuff an i dont know how to fix

this is an Quest Avi

[somber sequoia]

either install the package that prefab requires, or remove the prefab

[rose vine]

whould you happen to know how to remove it?

[somber sequoia]

find the object in the scene, click on it, hit the delete key

[rose vine]

Is there a way to find exactly the thing i would need to delete or just rummage around

[somber sequoia]

it says the name of it in that error message

"missing prefab asset [the name]"

[rose vine]

yeah but when i click it doesnt show in the scene

[somber sequoia]

when you click what?

[rose vine]

the error message

[somber sequoia]

yeah that doesn't do anything useful

[strong summit]

So, liltoon had some problems that i landed in safe mode, i reinstalled liltoon and its doing this, am i dead dead?

[proper orbit]

anybody have any ideas on how to fix this weird shading issue on the chest on the avatar? its not the texture (the white is the model with no materials at all) and it looks fine in blender its just in unity.

[ornate stump]

Did you confirm correct face orientation in blender?

[proper orbit]

yes everything is fine in blender

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the face orientation show in blender?

[somber sequoia]

looks like your nose ring is inside-out 🙂

[ornate stump]

Then also vertex or split normal direction.

[proper orbit]

yea ik but thats not what im trying to fix rn

[somber sequoia]

oh I know

[proper orbit]

hang on i think i fixed it. I played around with this option in unity and its gone ima upload it rq to see tho

did indeed fix it thanks for help

[pine valley]

eh, kill the editor and reopen it again

i've seen it get deadlocked while trying to import assets

If the issue persists, close the editor, then navigate to your project in your file browser and delete the Library folder

this will force Unity to reimport everything

(which often resolves baffling Editor Gremlins)

[remote acorn]

Anyone know how to make a desktop Assist toggle where the arms go where ever you animated them to?

[low gulch]

hi would anyone know why my avatar is doing the splits in game everytime im still? like it thinks the floor is higher than it is and im not sure how or why lol
its legs are moving correctly when im moving, just not when im still

[remote acorn]

better way to explain what i mean through video

[somber sequoia]

sure, that's just an animation which poses the arms, there should be lots of tutorials on this

[remote acorn]

sadly theres none i can find

[night ember]

just when you are making the animation like in the gesture layer or action layer add the animator tracking control property to the animation state forcing the hands and fingers to be animated instead of tracked

just put an exit state that changes it back to tracked though

[remote acorn]

so like this?

[somber sequoia]

pretty much like that, yep

[remote acorn]

still not working when i do it inside the Gesture layer it doesnt do the animations and only toggle the prop and when i do it in action layer it does the animation but put the rest of the body in bicycle pose

[somber sequoia]

it'll always go into bike pose if you're previewing the animation and not animating the entire body

[remote acorn]

oh so in vrchat it will look different?

[somber sequoia]

you can test in play mode, but yes, it'll have the base locomotion applied also

[remote acorn]

well this is play mode

[somber sequoia]

are you using gesture manager or av3 emulator? If not, you should

[fresh iron]

Would someone be willing to teach me how to create my own Avis

[remote acorn]

gesture manager

[viscid bison]

Hi i Need Help

[somber sequoia]

.... with?

[harsh stratus]

I am using a mayu modle i bought but it keeps giving me this error message?
It is my frist time even just making a texture for an avatar and i know evebn less about messing with bones n stuff

[viscid bison]

I am looking for a suitable male avatar that could be used for E ... RP, among other things. (NSFW)

[somber sequoia]

you won't likely find help for that specific topic here as it's generally against terms of service. But to find avatars perhaps try in #1138520828556890214

[remote acorn]

Yea in game it looks like this it does what i want it to do but its just a body and legs stuck in bicycle pose

[hazy quest]

Can you import unitypacke into A specific folder?

[remote acorn]

this is how it looks in gesture manager

[somber sequoia]

They go where they go - but you can move it afterwards

(and then if you re-import it'll know where to go, since Unity tracks these by ID (in the .meta file), not filename)

[harsh stratus]

for thr controller i changed it to the same tail wag thing as the other so it wouldnt be missing, it worked but now in vrc i cant see my avatar

[naive sentinel]

is there some general recommendations on how to adjust the finger-bones on the avatar, so that the fingers looks better when using e.g. finger tracking (quest or gloves)? Mine are too splayed, especially the pinky, and playing around with the rig settings in Unity (to adjust motion ranges) doesn't help much

[frank dawn]

im having some issues with my models where if i try to move or rotate them at all theyw ill not budge at all.
like im only moving he pivot point for the mesh and the mesh isnt following

an example of what i mean

[real adder]

@night ember ok i got them both uploaded but im not hearing the soundeffects

[night ember]

on what the quest or?

[surreal ridge]

how do i fix these?

i put a model in unity and made it humanoid and it did this

[night ember]

that doesnt even look like its made to be used in vrchat

[surreal ridge]

heres it in blender

idk how to fix it thats the thing

[balmy barn]

crossposting again i see

you need to fix it in blender, it cant just magically work in unity

[surreal ridge]

tryna get help bc i dont know how to fix it in blender thats the thing

[real adder]

the pc

ik sounds dont work on quest by pc has sounds and there not working

what do i do?

[rugged vigil]

Currently trying to make a toggleable pen for a model using trail renderers. I have the renderer set up and ready to go, but I can't seem to figure out how to clear the lines with a menu toggle. Any help with this?

[night ember]

well did you upload the pc version of the model?

[real adder]

yea both pc and quest are uploaded

its the sound effects that are not working on pc

[night ember]

not what I asked

did you actually upload the pc version on pc

[real adder]

yea see the windows?

[night ember]

again

did you upload the PC VERSION OF THE AVATAR to pc or did you just upload the quest version of it to pc

[real adder]

i did but let me do it again just in case

[rugged vigil]

?

How would I make the trail renderer clear the previous lines? Same for pausing the lines from being drawn

[real adder]

now its saying this

[rugged vigil]

I hate being impatient but can I get a reply for this, please?

[teal laurel]

Add an avatar descriptor then

I suggest you watch the basics on how to upload an avatar first

[echo quiver]

why are the textures gray and why can't i change them?

i made some changes in blender and now this happens when i bring it to unity

[rugged vigil]

You should just be missing the textures.

[real adder]

that dosent help at all dude.

[rugged vigil]

Drag and drop them into your project

[wispy mirage]

You're using embedded materials. If you click on the fbx, then go to "materials", you'll be able to use the setting "use external materials" and they'll be put in a separate folder.

There, you'll be able to edit the materials.

Make sure to click apply or this won't work.

[echo quiver]

ok lemme try

[rugged vigil]

I still need help with this. :7

[echo quiver]

there we go i think i may have it

[real adder]

what do i do about this>

[rugged vigil]

Add a descriptor to your avatar.

[echo quiver]

add component menu right?

[real adder]

how

[echo quiver]

try looking in there

[rugged vigil]

Click "Add Component" and search for the VRC Avatar Descriptor

[real adder]

where is that add component at?

[rugged vigil]

click your rigged model in the heirarchy

on the right you should see add component

[rugged vigil]

Can I please get some help with this quickly??

[somber sequoia]

you'd probably have to describe how you have this working, how the clearing would be done.

[rugged vigil]

Mmm, fair.

I'm using a VRCFury toggle to enable an object, then using another toggle to enable an object with the trail render in it.
I'd preferably want clearing lines to be done with another toggle in the menu, but I can settle for whatever else.

[somber sequoia]

no I mean explain the "clearing lines" action

[rugged vigil]

Oh, I just need it to clear the lines created by the trail renderer. I've seen avatars with built in pens that do it with gestures and toggles but I've never done one myself.

[rugged vigil]

Like here

it creates the lines on toggle but then doesn't delete them when i disable the pen

It's a bit hard for me to explain, sorry.

[somber sequoia]

right but each time I ask you add a tiny bit more detail, like there's a trail renderer here. It'd be good if you explain how that all worked up front.

I'd guess disable the trail renderer but again, no idea how you have this setup, so that's just a guess.

[rugged vigil]

Would it be easier if I sent you a screenshot of the toggles/heirarchy? I'm really bad at explaining this stuff 😭

[somber sequoia]

Explain however you want, sure. but by "sent" you should mean in here, I'm probably not going to be able to help much as I don't use Fury.

[rugged vigil]

Fair enough.

[echo quiver]

they both are at 0 0 0, but not aligned, what do i do?

[somber sequoia]

probably bring them into Blender, position them properly, apply transforms, re-export

[rugged vigil]

Here's everything to do with the pen.

I'm trying to get the trail renderer (InkPoint) to pause the trail renderer inside of it on a menu toggle. I'm using VRCFury for this process.

[echo quiver]

do i have to use blender?

[lilac shuttle]

someone help this guy

[rugged vigil]

PLEASE

[somber sequoia]

unless you have some other way of changing an object's origin

[echo quiver]

wait i see the problem

[lilac shuttle]

i wouldnt recommend VRCFury for the makerpen actions, or atleast use animations tied to VRCFury since VRCFury cant toggle component settings iirc

[rugged vigil]

Ohhh

Vinny you gotta walk me through this 😭

[lilac shuttle]

uuhhhhh

im a bad teacher

ill probably just send you a prefab i made

[rugged vigil]

yes please

anything to make this easier 😭

[lilac shuttle]

ok later though im busy

[rugged vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiwami-2-yakuza-kiwami-2-yakuza-2-slamming-desk-gif-7817746537201906733

oh no embeds

[lilac shuttle]

embed fail

[rugged vigil]

💔

[lilac shuttle]

do i have embed perms i dont really talk much in this server

https://tenor.com/view/miku-south-park-hatsune-miku-teto-randy-marsh-gif-5198114072719017822

aw

embed fail

[somber sequoia]

no embeds in here, thankfully

[real adder]

bro im actully ganna flip out how do i fix this

im this close to losing it

[somber sequoia]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar/#step-5---adding-an-avatar-descriptor

[real adder]

i dont see VRC Avatar Descriptor in there

[somber sequoia]

in where? in the link I just gave you?

[real adder]

no in add component i dont see that anywhere

[somber sequoia]

how strange

[real adder]

bro im actully ganna flip out

[echo quiver]

then take a break and collect yourself, i struggle with that too.

[fallen current]

how can I test interactions between two different avatars outside of the editor on the same PC?

if I use the companion tool's launcher then I can launch 2 clients with the same account, but when i change the avatar on one of these it also changes it on the other one.

if i use two accounts with this tool, then the second account's avatar does not load, presumably because this tool launches vrchat without EAC and vrchat servers reject loading avatars that are not your own when EAC is disabled. but my understanding is that EAC enforces single client at a time, so I cannot launch with EAC either.

is there anything i can do?

[somber sequoia]

I usually use two PCs for that

[fallen current]

i can't do that sadly :(

my only other PC is a mac

[real adder]

am i spost turn all these on?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea why you replied to that message?

Use whatever packages you want to use.

[somber osprey]

how I upload the avatar as a NEW avatar instead of updating?

cause I don't wanna override the existing one in-case I wanna made a mistake that I can't undo

[night ember]

first of all why didnt you make a backup

secondly you would just remove the avatar id on the pipeline manager component

[somber sequoia]

I've done that a few times, upload new experiments as a separate avatar

[remote acorn]

Anyone know how to do a system like this using rotation constraints?

i already know how to get the arms in the position but im trying to make it so if you toggle the prop normally it stays in your hand and if you on quest or vr you can move it normal but if you toggle desktop Assist using the Rotation Constraints its goes into the position?

[strong granite]

Does anyone know how set FBT

[real adder]

how do i make the dark blue stuff light blue?

[foggy wadi]

Inspector, make sure its checked on

[real adder]

where can i find that

wait nvm

[undone fable]

I have an avatar with chairs
But different avatars when in the chair are in different positioins, i even added a dummy as a child of the chair to compare locations.
Is there a way to account for it?

the pink is the dummy
and 2 different avatars are, both in desktop user, arent placed in the same location, hip and head wise

[real adder]

i think idk

did i upload it wronge?

cuase all i did was switch the seleted avatar and platforms to quest/android

@night ember

what do i do?

[foggy wadi]

Build and Publish?

Auto fix whatever alerts you may have first ig.

[real adder]

i just did that mins ago

[fallen current]

should i open a feedback item for this or abandon the idea of this being ever possible?

[somber sequoia]

can you not launch vrchat with two different profiles though? it's got a command-line flag for that

[fallen current]

yeah that works just fine, the problem is that the other user's avatar shows as error

[real adder]

can we not take anymore guesses i want a real awnser on how to fix the sounds

[somber sequoia]

not sure I understand why that would

[fallen current]

i am not sure why either but when you launch VRC via the VRC Quick Launcher no public content that you are not the author of loads

[somber sequoia]

ah I've never used the quick launcher

[fallen current]

since the VRC Quick Launcher launches VRC without EAC, i assume the reason why is anti-piracy/anti-ripping

[somber sequoia]

to do multi-user test stuff I upload it for real

[foggy wadi]

Theres no sounds on quest

[real adder]

yea im trying to get the sounds working on pc

cuase the sounds are not working on pc

[somber sequoia]

what about them isn't working?

also how are they setup?

[real adder]

the avatar has sound effects and there not working on pc

[somber sequoia]

that tells us almost nothing

how are they set up?

[somber osprey]

I did. just that if I keep making more backup.s I'll run out of space

[real adder]

bro how tf would i explane that?

[fallen current]

oh ok you can use launch.exe (instead of VRChat.exe directly) and eac doesnt prevent you from starting two instances (and everything works)

[somber sequoia]

audio source, how's it setup? 2D or 3D? range?
how are the sounds triggered? radial menu toggle done traditionally or vrcfury? using vrc animator play audio?

[somber sequoia]

yep that's an audio clip

[ocean berry]

does anyone know why when i use this as a toggle it only works locally for myself? people can see it toggles my avatar off but then when i toggle myself back on only i can see myself and no one else can see me and they have to hide and show my avatar to be able to see me again

[real adder]

so what do i do? how do i get them to work on pc?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea how they are setup and no idea what's wrong, so can't tell you how to make them work.

[real adder]

how am i spost to know if there 3d or 3d or whatever then?

[somber sequoia]

I think that turns off your animator

[somber sequoia]

find the audio source and inspect it

[ocean berry]

Well I can see myself fine but no one else can see me so are you sure?

[somber sequoia]

no, that's why I said "I think".

someone here mentioned it a while ago and I don't clearly remember the conversation, but it sounds like that might be what is going on

[crystal whale]

Can someone help? Whenever i try to switch a texture to toon standard from liltoon, it automatically turns pure white. How do i stop that?

[junior crag]

how would i go about connecting the bottom of this chain to the waist in a way that the rest would follow it (like the image)

[rose vine]

Where do i go to get this, its not in the VCC before making the templete to unity

The page said i need it if uploading Quest only Version with Face tracking

[somber sequoia]

vrcft.io probably

[rose vine]

i dont have that option on VCC either

[somber sequoia]

oh, not that - that's probably the avatar-specific stuff

[somber sequoia]

that is a website

[rose vine]

oh ok

lemme check it

[somber sequoia]

https://github.com/Adjerry91/VRCFaceTracking-Templates

[rose vine]

that works too thx

[somber sequoia]

knew it was here somewhere

[main kiln]

I just only learned how to add seats/stations onto an avatar in unity, but is there a way to actually see the empty object so I can scale/rotate/position it correctly without having to test it in VRC constantly?

[somber sequoia]

VRC Stations suck.

That's what I've done, seems like every time I put them where I think they should be, it's totally wrong in-game

[main kiln]

Honestly fr

That suckkkks there should be a mechanic to see where empty objects are

[rose vine]

not seeing the download option for it

unless im over looking it

[somber sequoia]

there's a section entitled "quick setup guide" - I assume you read that?

but if you're not a normal github user, on the right under "releases" is where you'd download stuff, should there actually be things to download.

(in this case that's probably not what you actually want)

[keen pewter]

good night guys im trying to fix the heels of my avatar but i dont know what i have to do to fix it, thats how it shows up on play mode

[rose vine]

yeah i was looking for that

[somber sequoia]

oh I see. Yeah I usually would suggest reading the page 🙂

[somber sequoia]

You didn't say what about this needs fixing though?

[rose vine]

lemme go over again then might have over looked it

[somber sequoia]

yep,follow the directions in that "quick setup guide"

[keen pewter]

it floats over the floor idk how to fix it

[rose vine]

yeah only like the second time ive used this

[somber sequoia]

actually raised up? Usually that's your avatar being mis-positioned

[keen pewter]

the white line over the green one idk where is located and why is one there 😕

[somber sequoia]

I can't tell which of those lines is which, but if your avatar is positioned at 0,0,0 and is floating or below the floor, you go fix that in Blender

[keen pewter]

emmmmmmm it is? i checked on blender and on the rig section

the 3 top ones should be exactly 0 0 0?

[somber sequoia]

if that's your avatar's root object, that would be ideal, yes.

[main kiln]

It's possible the mapping configuration is making it in the ground, that's how mine got messed up

[keen pewter]

yes it is

[main kiln]

Though the configuration though the knees were the legs so 😭

[keen pewter]

i dont know how to config that, where i can check that?

[main kiln]

Nope, the arms. It though the knees were arms

Uhhh did you make the rig Humanoid in the model?

[somber sequoia]

I don't believe there's a change you can make in the humanoid rig setup that would properly fix your avatar floating/sinking

[main kiln]

I managed to fix mine by moving the hip bone, at least for me

In VRC and Unity play mode it was in the ground by the knees

[somber sequoia]

that's a weird thing to do - I'd think that would screw up FBT a lot

[main kiln]

Suprisingly not

[somber sequoia]

huh

[main kiln]

The model itself has pretty bad armature regardless so 😅

[somber sequoia]

heh

[main kiln]

Like again, that's just how I managed to fix mine, it could be something else you're supposed to do

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'd go fix it in Blender.

[keen pewter]

i move the 3 top ones to 0 0 0 and it shows me the avatar is actually sinking

so that white line is my floor indicator 😵‍💫

[somber sequoia]

blender time, yup

[main kiln]

Guh

[keen pewter]

actually i think i can raise up the bones on unity

i already passed to much time modifying on blender im scared of having to configure all the other things again

[somber sequoia]

you shouldn't if you export properly

(and didn't unpack the avatar prefab)

[crystal whale]

So how do i fix the textures from going white when trying to switch to toon standard?

[somber sequoia]

not all shaders swap nicely, you might have to manually put the textures into the right slots in the new material

[keen pewter]

how can i export it properly then ?

[somber sequoia]

just overwrite the .fbx file, using the same settings as you used the previous time. Unless you drastically change the armature, it'll be fine

[keen pewter]

[crystal whale]

How do i go about doing that/

[somber sequoia]

drag textures into the slots you want them in

you could copy the material and change the copy so you have the old one as a reference as to which file goes where

[crystal whale]

Tried that. both of them.

It all still kept turning white

[somber sequoia]

then it's some setting on the material. Feel free to post an image of the inspector

[keen pewter]

on the material check whats on the main color / alpha

thats where your textures should be maybe is going to the second layer

[somber sequoia]

it's really hard to guess what's wrong with no info

[keen pewter]

i swear this is confusing me even more

[crystal whale]

It just goes white when i try to change it

[brittle grove]

im trying to add clothes from another avatar to my current one, but theres a few extra bones on it that i need to keep but arent found on my current avatar, how should I go about this?

[somber sequoia]

you do have a white emission cranked up there...

[crystal whale]

where?

[brittle grove]

i dont know who tf decided to name it belly volume btw qwq

[keen pewter]

put the emission strenght on 0

[somber sequoia]

the section which says "Emission" of course

er

sorry, wrong reply

[brittle grove]

lol all good

[somber sequoia]

totally clicked the wrong message there

[crystal whale]

ope/ that worked

[somber sequoia]

so if the bone names don't match that could be an issue, it probably is for those upper leg bones

[brittle grove]

i see i see, but what about the belly_volume ones? the other ones i can rename but those are extra bones

[somber sequoia]

I don't know the asset so don't know what those might do

[keen pewter]

erase the Zparasite and the Z just left it as belly_volume

[brittle grove]

aand theres more inside of them also oh my god i hate these names this avatar isnt what you think it is i swear

[keen pewter]

maybe that will work

[brittle grove]

ill try

[somber sequoia]

Zass jiggle!

hilarious.

(the Z is actually to get them to be below the humanoid bones in ordering)

[keen pewter]

those dont are supposed to be like bone colliders?

[somber sequoia]

dunno? I'd guess "jiggle" is for physbones though

[brittle grove]

the thing is, if i delete any of those bones the clothing will just cease to fit :(

[vapid slate]

to add assets to an avatar [for my case, a dancing pole], do i drop it onto the avatar and make it a toggle first or do i just add the "world drop" component

[keen pewter]

rename them left them be or just change the names of the bones of the clothes you want to add

like hips to Zparasitehips

[brittle grove]

also i removed the Zs, and tried to rename them to their corresponding bones but the bones inside of them dont have anything to correspond to

[real adder]

alright idk what im doing the sounds are not playing on pc and i tried everything idk what to do please give me an expert on sounds or whatever please

[brittle grove]

waait a lot of these bones are useless

LOL i might be good

[real adder]

cuase im getting tierd of the sujestions not working and the guesses i want a real awnser

[somber sequoia]

we don't have enough info to go on

[brittle grove]

is it okay if i name certain bones with the same name?

[somber sequoia]

Humanoid bone names must be unique

[brittle grove]

fuck

[somber sequoia]

other bones, whatever, though you should not have duplicate bone names in any armature, weight paint goes off the names

(at least in Blender)

[keen pewter]

maybe it can work but is theres bones you dont need to you can try to erase them but be carefull and constantly check the clothes model to prevent them to glitch and go to space

[brittle grove]

ohh okay i see

so i also should name the clothing bones to the closest possible avatar bone in relation?

[somber sequoia]

Ideally the clothing armature bone names should match identically to the avatar armature's bone names

[real adder]

bro help me how do i fix the sounds are not playing on pc

[brittle grove]

do you know if it differs in unity by any chance? im really new to this so i may be wrong

[keen pewter]

yep is flying and im trying to dont touch blender again to modify the fbx file and they are supposed to be sinking now

[somber sequoia]

I know that if you're renaming bones in Unity you're probably off on the wrong path

[brittle grove]

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah

i feel like i am honestly

i followed a youtube tutorial but the guy said to just clip off all unnecessary bones from the clothing you want to use, and then just try to fit it on the avatar using the transform tool on the armature

...

i think i may just try again another day qwq

[somber sequoia]

I do this work entirely in Blender

[keen pewter]

@somber sequoia how i was supposed to export as a fbx file to modify it on blender?

[brittle grove]

oh yeah i totally messed up then

[somber sequoia]

export what, from where?

[keen pewter]

the model as a fbx to fix the problem of the heels on blender

[brittle grove]

ill retry it another day, would it be okay if i asked you for help when that time comes? if not its fine, I can find a youtube tutorial but im afraid of being led astray again lol

[somber sequoia]

is it not already a .fbx file? no need to "export" from unity

[somber sequoia]

this channel will always be here, often full of smart people

[brittle grove]

lol i see

i appreciate the help youve given me 💛 thanks!!

[keen pewter]

ok so i just grab the hips bone and raise it until the heels are on the floor level?

[somber sequoia]

in Blender? I'd raise the whole armature and all of its child objects, then apply all transforms.

[keen pewter]

ok im doing that then

[blissful lark]

can i have a constraint on a physbone? im trying to make a cable that goes from my amp to a guitar, and will have physics whether its connected or not, but my constraint seems to do nothing no matter what i do

[slow sandal]

is there a way to make the toon standard shader ignore baked shadows?

you can notice on the beak

[somber sequoia]

Trying to pin the end of a physbone is going to be frustratingly impossible, unfortunately.

[somber sequoia]

baked how and to what? like where is that shadow data stored?

[slow sandal]

I meant painted on, I paint shadows in some areas of the model

and I was wondering if there's a way to mask those out so the shader ignores them and don't add up both values and cause that weird banding

[blissful lark]

i see, is there any alternative to do something like this? or should i scrap the idea

[somber sequoia]

you might search in here, it's been talked about but I don't personally know of a good soution

[somber sequoia]

Right but painted on what? the base color texture?

[slow sandal]

yes

[somber sequoia]

oh, then no, you'd have to put the shadows in an overlay of some sort

[slow sandal]

hmm, any resources on that?

or if it's possible to do on the toon standard shader at all

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what that shader is capable of, I don't use it

[keen pewter]

is better if i do that on edit mode? or just raise it all on object mode and pressing ctrl+a will be enough?

[somber sequoia]

I move objects in object mode

I suppose you could do it in edit mode but you can't multi-edit different object types and you'd need to move the armature and meshes

so that gets trickier.

[keen pewter]

ok so i stay on object mode and raise the armature with everything and press ctrl+a to aply transform?

dont need like export it again and replace it with the current one i have?

[somber sequoia]

you do need to export again

[keen pewter]

ok

[keen pewter]

this is what i feared

[crude pumice]

Ohhh that...

Shader setting in blender needs to be set up corretly

[somber sequoia]

without a comparison picture I've no idea what you're indicating in this pic

[crude pumice]

Usually i use emission block.

[keen pewter]

is bugged like if it got 4 of the same model stacked there

[somber sequoia]

do you?

by default when you export from blender it includes all objects, you may not want that

[crude pumice]

Wait.... are you trying to make the heel stick to the ground level?

[keen pewter]

yep

and on blender doesnt look like that

[crude pumice]

Download modular assembler.
And use the MA floor adjuster.

[keen pewter]

i tried it using it

[somber sequoia]

that foot bone seems too high also, you want that on the floor

[keen pewter]

doesnt do anything

ok im getting it the bone to the floor

ok on the floor level but the biggest problem

my entire model got bugged on unity now

[somber sequoia]

go see the pinned diagram in #avatar-rigging for how that foot bone should be

[crude pumice]

In armature config maybe toe bone wasnt removed?

[somber sequoia]

why remove the toe bone?

[crude pumice]

Tip toe

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what you mean or if that answers my question

[crude pumice]

[keen pewter]

is removed

in unity i dont have a toe bone

[crude pumice]

👍

[somber sequoia]

again, is there a reason to do that?

[keen pewter]

but here why is there

[somber sequoia]

ah you also have a leaf bone too (Toe_L_end)

[keen pewter]

i dont have those on unity

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, Unity drops them

[keen pewter]

so i erase them?

[somber sequoia]

You can delete them in Blender if you know you don't use them.

[keen pewter]

ok but the thing it concerns me

why it got bugg on the moment i export it to unity again?

[somber sequoia]

how exactly did you export?

[keen pewter]

like this

[somber sequoia]

and then?

[keen pewter]

i select the fbx file i use on unity and press overwrite

[somber sequoia]

Set "apply scalings" to "FBX All" in the export dialog, unless you know for sure it should be something else.

And uncheck the option about adding leaf bones under "Armature"

[keen pewter]

ok

ok it got fixed there

but now the model dissapeared on the scene lmao

i guess i throw it back there again

this is what i mean about dissapeared

lmao the entire armature dissapeared

@somber sequoia any idea what happened?

[somber sequoia]

can't tell anything from those images - does it look ok dragging a new one into the scene?

[keen pewter]

yes

is not even the same height idk why

[somber sequoia]

probably wacky scaling settings on one of them

[keen pewter]

ok so how can i fix it?

[somber sequoia]

A thing that happens a lot here is people ask for a fix to a problem that isn't yet understood.

First identify the problem.

[keen pewter]

where my model went? i used to have a model before modifying the fbx file

[somber sequoia]

did you forget to export the body? is the body present in that model? Do you see it in the hierarchy? are the materials setup right, or is that the cause of it being invisible? Is it scaled weirdly?

I can tell you nothing from that ^ image.

[keen pewter]

i selected everything before exporting it on blender

the body is present there but why it got invisible? is there on the hierarchy im seeing the materials there

wait what happened .-.

but still invisible

wait why

i change them to the other model but still invisible

[keen pewter]

i guess i lost all the time working on the model for following the advices here

yhea the model dissapeared

[somber sequoia]

it's really hard to tell what's going on from what you've shared.

[keen pewter]

but what more i can share???

i tried to re aply the materials and is like the entire model i worked for weeks dissapeared

[somber sequoia]

is the body object even there?

[keen pewter]

is on the hierarchy

[somber sequoia]

and if you click it does it highlight in the scene?

[keen pewter]

nope

[somber sequoia]

that's very strange, it should if the mesh is there

[keen pewter]

and on blender before exporting i verified everything was selected and yhea

everything is selected

[somber sequoia]

okay, well I do this exact process a lot, works for me

[somber sequoia]

you don't have it limiting so it doesn't matter what you have selected

[keen pewter]

it have a mesh but where it went on the scene?

[somber sequoia]

is that the right material?

[keen pewter]

yes

i even tried chaning materials but nope is like the model is not there even having the mesh and materials there

i have normal maps textures everything but wheres the model went

[quiet plume]

hey guys, quick question for anyone who uses modular avatars,

how on earth would i attach a hair rigged for a different ava to another... specifically a shinra hair to lumina?

[unkempt iris]

can sum1 help with this... legs r pushed forward in vrchat but everything looks normal in unity playtest mode + looks normal when cam,era is set to fly but breaks again when switched back

[keen pewter]

the console says this

[wispy mirage]

It’s the same thing tbh, just gotta size and adjust the hair accordingly.

If something doesn’t fit no matter what you do, I usually take the fbx into blender and shape it to my head

[keen pewter]

place it well on your head model and press setup outfit and if doesnt follow the body on the play mode then you have to put it on the head armature

it forces me on its moment to place the hair of the model like that

[vague spade]

simple dumb question, how do i get out of prefab? i forgot how to

[somber sequoia]

arrow in the upper-left

[keen pewter]

the left upper arrow

[vague spade]

ty, but now i dont see her TvT

[keen pewter]

wat

[keen pewter]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa grab the prefab and throw it again on the hierarchy

[vague spade]

ah

TvT

ty

[keen pewter]

right now im still trying to recover my model for following the advice here

[real adder]

im still trying to figure out how to fix the sound effects for pc but people keep giving me guesses and salutions that never worked..

[somber sequoia]

You still haven't provided enough detail for anyone to help you figure it out.

[keen pewter]

you have it like this but linked to the emote or object?

[keen pewter]

what other info i can give

[somber sequoia]

I wasn't responding to you there

[real adder]

hang pn can i send you the showcase on yt?

[keen pewter]

sure

[real adder]

dms cuase vrc wont let me paste links

[real adder]

cheek dms

[merry ermine]

Anyone know why the texture/mesh is doing this..

[keen pewter]

ok it sounds like the object have a emote

[keen pewter]

check if they dont are inverted

and im still waiting for help

[vague spade]

i need help to set up jerrys template TvT

i put it under the avatar and now idk what to do

[keen pewter]

what jerrys template do?

[vague spade]

face tracking

do i just drag it in and thats it

[keen pewter]

it haves like some tutorial there? it should say if is just drag and drop or adding it as a component

[vague spade]

i figured it ot :D

[keen pewter]

ok sounds good but now the other dude dont help me to figure out what happened to my model for following his advice of using blender

well if i gonna lose all my work on my model then i gonna erase all the bones i dont need on blender and escalate the model height and i guess i have to redo everything again

[barren grove]

hello im trying find this certain unitypackage that a avatar i found had but cant seem to find it. I remember that the avatar was able to go on all fours and walk like a dog when you put more force into the move stick you start running, it also has a jump animation and when you're not walking a sit down animation.

[gaunt knoll]

Give it time ask again later on today

People need to sleep and eat

[keen pewter]

i know but is already 5 hours since i have the problem for following the advice of modify the fbx file on blender

[dire linden]

So I downloaded an fbx on sketch fab of weffle (toon universe) and idk where else to ask why it won’t import because it says on google it should work?

[ornate stump]

What does it actually do or have some indication showing it can't import?

[dire linden]

Hol uo

[ornate stump]

It's a zip file. You have to extract the zip first.

[dire linden]

How do that?

[ornate stump]

It's a very fundamental topic for computer usage, you could google for "how to extract zip file".

[dire linden]

Ok

[keen pewter]

If you have winrar installed on your pc

Right click that zip file / extract here

Once extracted it should be a unity package file

[dire linden]

Ok ty

[keen pewter]

That one dragged to your unity

[ornate stump]

#avatar-general message What do you mean no work?

[dire linden]

It didn’t drag

I selected extract all

[ornate stump]

You have to extract first, then you get the files, then you drag the file into unity.

[dire linden]

It’s in unity package now but it still no work

[keen pewter]

The unity package file you have to drag it inside your unity project

[ornate stump]

What is the indication it doesn't work?

[keen pewter]

It should appear a window showing what it have and a option on the bottom saying "import"

[ornate stump]

It isn't unitypackage though.

[dire linden]

Wait wha

It’s in unity package,

*?

[ornate stump]

It isn't. What make you think it's a part of unitypackage?

[keen pewter]

When you extracted those files were part of the zip file?

[dire linden]

Yeah

[keen pewter]

Or just that folder?

[dire linden]

Zip file I think?

[keen pewter]

Show us whats inside the zip file

[dire linden]

Wait do I hafta do the individual files and not extract the whole folder?

[keen pewter]

Double click it so it shows up whats inside

[dire linden]

Ok

[ornate stump]

You already got the extracted file so you have to drag that folder into your unity.

[keen pewter]

On the zip file

[dire linden]

I did

[ornate stump]

The file type is written to the right which is "File Folder" so it's already extracted

[dire linden]

That what on it

[keen pewter]

Check source folder

[dire linden]

What’s that

Weffle is in there

[keen pewter]

The one over the textures folder

[dire linden]

I’m on that one

Weffle is there

But it won’t drag

[keen pewter]

Inside this one

[ornate stump]

It's "click-hold-drag-drop", did you do that?

[dire linden]

Ok textures or source I’m on source

[dire linden]

Yup

[keen pewter]

Whats inside there?

[dire linden]

Weffle

[keen pewter]

Weird is a 3D object

[dire linden]

?

[ornate stump]

FBX file is labaled that way.

[dire linden]

Imported from “sketch fab”?

[keen pewter]

Ok lets return to the zip file before you extracted it

[dire linden]

Yes?

Maybe call?

[keen pewter]

Can you show us please the zip file and what's inside it?

Im thinking the unity package file is outside those folders 🤔

[dire linden]

ok call and share screen maybe?

[keen pewter]

I dont have electricity

[dire linden]

dang

alr just a sec

[keen pewter]

Open the zip file and send us a picture of what's inside

[dire linden]

Ok

[keen pewter]

Dang i guess it doesn't have a units package and is just a object

[dire linden]

Ok so how do I get it into unity then?

Would any different file work?

[keen pewter]

Ok the folder you tried to drag inside your unity tried again but drop it here

[dire linden]

Ok

[keen pewter]

Uffffffffff @ornate stump

[dire linden]

Didn’t work

[ornate stump]

Should pick fbx because other kind doesn't support armature deformation.

[dire linden]

That’s what I did

[keen pewter]

Ok tried with the wefle file

[dire linden]

Wait I did smth!!

The texture is in!!

[ornate stump]

Also note that if the file is contained inside of "Compressed Folder" type of folder, it can't directly be drag into unity.

[dire linden]

Now I need the model!

[keen pewter]

But i gonna be honest what you download is just a 3D object not something you can control like a avatar, i did the same with a mask and still this day im not capable of making it work with any avatar

[dire linden]

I think I did it!! YAYY!!

[keen pewter]

Ok now move to the scene

[dire linden]

I just need color on her face!!

[keen pewter]

Very cute indeed 😊

[dire linden]

I’m so happy !!

[unkempt canopy]

does the sdk check physbone component constraint before or after d4rkoptimiser removes them? is there a way to make it ignore it until the unused ones have been removed or

[teal laurel]

Vrcfury, aao and d4rk all do not get tge VRC SDK to show right stats

So you sadly cannot relly on the VRC SDK in that moment

Either upload and check in-game, or upload and use another package like <forgot the name, something with actual performance thing> to show all stats after the upload completed

https://vpm.anatawa12.com/gists/en/docs/reference/actual-performance-window/ ah it was from antawa

https://vpm.anatawa12.com/gists/en/docs/reference/actual-performance-window/window.png

Looks like this

Cool, still no embed perms in here✌️

[unkempt canopy]

its preventing me from uploading is why I asked

I disabled some physbones and it seemed to fix it so I have a feeling its after d4rk

but thank you I will be using that tool 🙏🏻

[pine valley]

Modern SDK versions should allow you to try to upload, even if your avatar fails a mandatory check

[eternal aurora]

Hi! I'm having an issue with an avatar I'm working on, I updated the model on Blender (I had to fix some of the bones) and now for some reason this brown outline shows up around the avatar

[ornate stump]

Because the scaling export is different. You will have to export fbx with setting "Apply Scalings" set to "FBX All"

[eternal aurora]

Ah, thank you!! I did do that before last night but by today completely forgot about it!

[pine valley]

This caused the model to export 100x smaller

So, the armature gets scaled up 100x to compensate

Outlines are frequently made by pushing the model out slightly

but if you've got a 100x scale on the armature, you magnify that by 100x!

bam, huge outline

[dire linden]

Does anyone know how to add visemes from scratch to a unity avatar project?

Like can someone call and I share my screen because YouTube isnt helping

[balmy barn]

https://youtu.be/uylfZK99lBM - blender

if you have 3 basic ah,ch,oh, you can use cats to generate the rest of visemes (wont work well if you have a big snout/jaw)

[shadow agate]

is there a way to add to a contact/etc driven paramter and use the result as another parameter
I'm trying to use the value given by a contact sender as a state's Speed multiplier but I want it to have a minimum of 1/max of 2 so the value plays the state faster

nvm I got it
the solution is using two Parameter Drivers where one copies the desired value and the second adds 1

[fleet idol]

unity isn't identifying blend shapes even though my character has them, whats up with that?

[shadow agate]

don't they need to be prefixed with "vrc.v_" (i.e. "vrc.v_pp") or something

[somber sequoia]

technically no, but it'll find them if so.
But you wouldn't use "jaw flap blendshape" for these, it's one of the other options (I don't have Unity open)

[pine valley]

This means that there are no blend shapes at all

Assuming you're targeting the correct skinned mesh renderer, look at the Modifiers tab for the object in Blender

If you have anything other than the Armature modifier, then Blender will not export blendshapes

(it loses them as it applies the modifiers)

[fleet idol]

Even the solidify modifier?

[pine valley]

Correct.

[fleet idol]

okk I'll try applying them hold on

[pine valley]

that will not work either

blender won't let you apply them, since you'd lose the blendshapes

I believe there's an add-on for this

https://extensions.blender.org/add-ons/apply-modifiers-with-shape-keys/

I have not used this myself

[fleet idol]

It worked!!

Thanks a lot!

[somber sequoia]

I use this one: https://github.com/przemir/ApplyModifierForObjectWithShapeKeys

[broken barn]

I need help getting the disko regulus

[plain mural]

Why are my avatar's arms so far forward when I lower them all the way down irl?
The arm to height ratio setting in vrc didn't give me any results at any value, and in Unity, the arms are in the normal position

[plain mural]

(only the hand that is closer to the camera, with the far hand I clicked on the camera)

[somber sequoia]

what is it?

[broken barn]

Its an avater model

[somber sequoia]

ahh.

[plain mural]

in unity

[pine valley]

You're going to see the resting pose of the model in unity

in VRC, it's controlled by your (full/half) body tracking

Where is your view position set?

[teal laurel]

Uhh d4rk has an issue if you click use finger collider as foot i think on quest. Did you have that on by any chance?

[unkempt canopy]

whats the issue? I do have that yea

[teal laurel]

Try turning that off and upload again

If i recall, i had issues with that too

If you still wanna use that, use vrcfury global collider's for that (it does the same)

[unkempt canopy]

well it uploaded after I disabled a few physbones think I was just over limit d4rk did end up deleting them from the count

[teal laurel]

Huh weird

[torpid hinge]

when i try to upload my avatar, it said "avatar validation failed"

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder+<>c.<CreateContentInfoGUI>b__100_0 (System.String selected) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1541)
UnityEngine.UIElements.PopupField1[T].GetValueToDisplay () (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0) UnityEngine.UIElements.BasePopupField2[TValueType,TValueChoice].SetValueWithoutNotify (TValueType newValue) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0)
UnityEngine.UIElements.PopupField1[T].SetValueWithoutNotify (T newValue) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0) UnityEngine.UIElements.BaseField1[TValueType].set_value (TValueType value) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0)
UnityEngine.UIElements.PopupField`1[T].set_value (T value) (at <332857d8803a4878904bcf8f9581ec33>:0)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.HandleAvatarSwitch (UnityEngine.UIElements.VisualElement root) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1740)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncMethodBuilderCore+<>c.<ThrowAsync>b__7_0 (System.Object state) (at <27124aa0e30a41659b903b822b959bc7>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext+WorkRequest.Invoke () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.Exec () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.ExecuteTasks () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)

Loaded data for an avatar we do not own, clearing blueprint ID
UnityEngine.Logger:Log (UnityEngine.LogType,object,UnityEngine.Object)
(wrapper dynamic-method) UnityEngine.Debug:UnityEngine.Debug.LogError_Patch1 (object,UnityEngine.Object)
VRC.Core.Logger:LogError (string,string,UnityEngine.Object)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder:ClearAvatarData (VRC.Core.PipelineManager) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1836)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<HandleAvatarSwitch>d__101:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1681)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:SetException (System.Exception) VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<GetAvatar>d__31:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:577) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:SetException (System.Exception)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<Get>d__171<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:380) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:SetException (System.Exception)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<MakeRequest>d__162<object, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:343) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<System.ValueTuple2<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar, System.Net.Http.HttpResponseMessage>>:SetException (System.Exception) VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<MakeRequestWithResponse>d__152<object, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:334)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext:ExecuteTasks ()

any way to fix dis?

also

Encountered the following validation issues during build:
UnityEngine.Logger:Log (UnityEngine.LogType,object)
(wrapper dynamic-method) UnityEngine.Debug:UnityEngine.Debug.LogError_Patch1 (object)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<>c__DisplayClass141_0/<<Build>g__AvatarValidation|1>d:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2911)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder:SetException (System.Exception)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<CheckAvatarForValidationIssues>d__225:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:3793)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<System.Exception>:SetResult (System.Exception) VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<HandleBuildError>d__143:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2995) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder:SetResult () VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<FinishBuild>d__142:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2985) UnityEditor.BuildPipeline:BuildAssetBundles (string,UnityEditor.AssetBundleBuild[],UnityEditor.BuildAssetBundleOptions,UnityEditor.BuildTarget) VRC.SDK3.Builder.VRCAvatarBuilder:ExportCurrentAvatarResource (UnityEngine.Object,bool,bool,string&,System.Action1<string>,System.Action`1<object>)
VRC.SDK3.Builder.VRCAvatarBuilder:ExportAvatarBlueprint (UnityEngine.GameObject)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<Build>d__141:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2854)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext:ExecuteTasks ()

[balmy barn]

neither of those tell us much , very generic , look for other red ones

[torpid hinge]

Loaded data for an avatar we do not own, clearing blueprint ID
UnityEngine.Logger:Log (UnityEngine.LogType,object,UnityEngine.Object)
(wrapper dynamic-method) UnityEngine.Debug:UnityEngine.Debug.LogError_Patch1 (object,UnityEngine.Object)
VRC.Core.Logger:LogError (string,string,UnityEngine.Object)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder:ClearAvatarData (VRC.Core.PipelineManager) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1836)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<HandleAvatarSwitch>d__101:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1681)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:SetException (System.Exception) VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<GetAvatar>d__31:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:577) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:SetException (System.Exception)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<Get>d__171<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:380) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:SetException (System.Exception)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<MakeRequest>d__162<object, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:343) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<System.ValueTuple2<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar, System.Net.Http.HttpResponseMessage>>:SetException (System.Exception) VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<MakeRequestWithResponse>d__152<object, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:334)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext:ExecuteTasks ()

[balmy barn]

avatar validation failed - probably too much on it / stuff ,optimize step - never had one but i also dont use any scripts that changes stuff before its uploaded

[torpid hinge]

i only added the ears and tail from a prefab i found on gumroad it waz free

the model in question that i'm using, is from vroid hub and they allowed use in other stuff

[pine valley]

This error is a red herring

The SDK always spits it out if the upload fails

[pine valley]

This exception occurs because the SDK is trying to show the "private"/"public" dropdown, but it somehow has selected neither

I've seen that one a few times. I've never gotten to work out why that happens

(not in my projects -- i've seen other people experience it)

[torpid hinge]

i made it public

i'm using unity 2022.3.22f1

here's what it tells me before uploading

• i will use vrcquesttools to basically convert it for android

aka quest

[pine valley]

anything with a stop sign on it will cause the upload to fail

(the SDK lets you try anyway, since tools like VRCFury, Modular Avatar, etc. might fix the issue)

[torpid hinge]

i have vrcfury installed in vcc

[pine valley]

I'm just mentioning why it's letting you try to upload at all

You need to fix this

This is a problem with your humanoid avatar setup

[torpid hinge]

but i didn't make the avi

i used univrm to import it

but also, in the hirearchy of unity

the shoulders are there (shldl=left shldr=right)

[somber sequoia]

in this image we cannot see the hierarchy of bones - don't crop so close.

[pine valley]

(this also has nothing to do with the humanoid avatar setup)

you'd need to select the model asset, then go to the Rig tab and hit Configure

[torpid hinge]

where do i find the model rig type exceterra?

oh wait i do know how

[somber sequoia]

Fen just said

[torpid hinge]

i'm in the model

[somber sequoia]

no, you must click on the model file in the project window, not an item in the hierarchy in scene

[balmy barn]

univrm euw

[torpid hinge]

so i just click on the model in the assets?

single or double

[somber sequoia]

click once, look in the inspector, in the rig tab.

it should look like Fen's image

[torpid hinge]

all i see is this

[somber sequoia]

You clicked on a prefab, not a model file

[torpid hinge]

cuz i'm using the prefab

how do i get the model from the prefab

[somber sequoia]

ok but you can't setup the rig on a prefab, you must do that on a model file

[torpid hinge]

so i just open the prefab?

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what you have here, haven't worked with something like this.