avatar-help

[elder topaz]

anyone here good with vrm files on linux?

[onyx prism]

Got this error trying to upload a modified Mayo Base model for personal use. Got told I should detach the pipeline for the id, but now it gives the error above.

[frank falcon]

Do you mean the review any alerts panel?

[left gull]

yes

[left gull]

ehhh not the worst model, are you uploading it for quest or pc?

[frank falcon]

PC

I should mention I am using ALCOM for Linux to do the upload

[left gull]

ive never used that but it shouldnt change anything to my knowledge

[mint badge]

does anyone know a simpler way to optimize / del polygons
bc i was trying to replace my body mesh with one where i del polygons that you dont see and it just keeps breaking other stuff

[left gull]

are you uploading under a new blueprint ID or re-uploading over the old one?

[frank falcon]

I deleted the old one and am uploading a new blueprint

I have also tested with a Quest compatable model and a non FT model and am getting the same results

[left gull]

id try check all your sdk packages are up to date and saving project>closing it>reopen it and attempt upload again if you havent already

unity and the past few sdk releases have been a bit finnicky for me and that generally fixed my security check issues

[frank falcon]

I've just done a system update so my stuff should be up to date. if all else fails I can just try again from Windows and see if that works, but I'd like to use that as a last resort.

[mint badge]

🤡

[frank falcon]

I think I figured out my issue. On Linux I didn't have my path set to VrChat for my uploads so it was technically uploading without a platform.

[austere locust]

Hi, I'm trying to upload my first avatar, and I see it in the window, but it's saying that I can't apply it because it's windows only. How do I, equip it on the meta quest?

I tried to open it in the windows version- it says applied but it's the only default skeleton showing up

[elder topaz]

I finally have my avatar building but it's stuck at the beginning of the progress bar, is that normal?

[elder nova]

Ok so I’m uploading an avi and the instructions say to copy and paste a blueprint id. I have no idea how to do this (I’m new to unity)

[timber wharf]

@elder nova in sdk window (wheres upload button) switch to the 4th tab, thered be your already uploaded pc avi and its id to copy. then find vrc pipeline manager component, its on the same object as avatar descriptor and paste id there.

[stone gate]

I need help! How should I rig this? Vrchat hasn't liked any of what I have done

[ashen crane]

okay so why does my avatar get sent to outer space when i try to animate it in unity.. (basically the main rig gets displaced when previewing an animation)

[brazen saddle]

Am I missing something with setting up VRC_Raycast values?

[brazen saddle]

Tested in-game, works fine there. Looks to just be an issue of testing in Unity.

[lilac stream]

anybody know if it's possible to make marshmallow pb scale with animations? (e.g., breast size slider)

[ornate stump]

In theory it's possible, but not that easy.

[lilac stream]

i've been trying to figure it out for a while now, i'd luv for someone to help

[ornate stump]

You'd have to be specific what you got stuck with.

[lilac stream]

so, as of right now, i have an animation working by scaling the "marshmallow_PB_L" empty, and the breast parent bone on my avatar, however, it more so seems to stretch instead of getting bigger

i made sure to enable constraint proportions, so the XYZ are all the same scale

[soft thistle]

obvious

[pearl spruce]

If you use a base asset and it has shape key sliders, you use them, THAN go into edit mode and sculpt the body a bit, its showing up while im in edit mode but when i switch back to object mode, its not changed.

[ornate stump]

Did you set shapekey usage value in the vertex data tab?

[pearl spruce]

Absolutely not! Thank you!

[mint badge]

question is there a way with vrc fury or smt to make one toggle for a outfit that just toggles other toggles

bc if i just make 2 toggles for the same thing it kinda gets stuck

[winter plover]

soo my issue is my eyeballs are not parented with my head.

[proven quail]

are the eye bones parented to the head?

[winter plover]

thing is..

there are no eye bones

idk why

unless i parented wrong in blender

[ornate stump]

If it doesn't work in blender, it won't work in unity.

[winter plover]

idk how to test it in blender, i only know a lil bit about blender

[ornate stump]

Pretty much that's what Pose Mode for.

[winter plover]

kinda lost on what u mean

[ornate stump]

Do you know Object Mode, Edit Mode, and Pose Mode?

[winter plover]

indeed

[ornate stump]

Just doing pose mode for the armature and see if model follows bones correctly.

[winter plover]

it does

[ornate stump]

Can you show the relevant part when testing the eye movement?

[winter plover]

i dont know how to do it in blender

[ornate stump]

Did you enter pose mode and answer me it works without actually moving any bone?

[winter plover]

yea i did-

[ornate stump]

You obviously have to make some bone movement to test it.

[vapid oar]

Good lord

Lmao

[winter plover]

this shi spooked me at 4am last night so indeed

[vapid oar]

Hope were thinking about the same thing 💀

[ornate stump]

How is the arm movement relevant to the eye problem?

[winter plover]

the eyeballs

[vapid oar]

The lips

[winter plover]

sorry im slow

UMMM

ping pong balls :D

[ornate stump]

There is no eye bone to begin with though.

[winter plover]

how would i make one

[proven quail]

If you don't need eye movement, you can just weight paint the eyes to the head

[winter plover]

idk how to weight paint either XD

[ornate stump]

How did you add the eyes first?

[proven quail]

Go to edit mode, click a to select all, then go to vertex groups and find or add 'head' or whatever the head bone is named. Then click assign

[winter plover]

i just imported the head, it had the eyes

[ornate stump]

The body and head were separated files?

[winter plover]

mhm!

zinpia base and umeko head

[ornate stump]

Then the problem is you didn't join the head armature from the head model.

[winter plover]

ah

another issue, idk when i delete everything that wasnt apart of my main armature (and i dont want to restart for thr 15th time)

[ornate stump]

That clearly is the problem.

[winter plover]

yeaa... figured

should i reimport the head then?

like

the file

[ornate stump]

Of course yes.

[winter plover]

kk

now how to join the armatures. ctrl j after selecting both?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[winter plover]

it broke when i joined it

nvm i just did the wrong way

thanks for the help, imma check if it works

it's still happening..

[ornate stump]

What is it doing now in blender?

[elder topaz]

can someone please inform me as to what each of these icons mean?

[winter plover]

exact same thing. im thinking of seeing if a different head works

[ornate stump]

Those are somewhat self explanation though.

[elder topaz]

I have no idea what Visemes and Impostors mean in this context

[winter plover]

impostor is what people see when they dont have ur avatar enabled

[elder topaz]

eyelook and sdk 3 I can figure out

[elder topaz]

ahh, so the low rez version?

[winter plover]

basically

[elder topaz]

ahh

[ornate stump]

Viseme is avatar can move the mouth according to how player speak.
Imposter is the pixelated avatar version when being blocked by performance or not available in the platform.

[elder topaz]

ohh, so that's how my avatar's mouth can move when I talk

[ornate stump]

That's the basis.

[ornate stump]

Did you join the head mesh to the body?

• If not and don't want to, then you have to set Armature Deform Modifier and assign the main armature to the head.
  And did you parent the head bone the the body head bone?

[winter plover]

i did everythin i listed

im tryin it on a different head, maybe it'll work.

[ornate stump]

It wouldn't help much if you don't get in depth on how it broke.

[winter plover]

ah alr

[ornate stump]

Pretty much: learn how it broke, so you know how to solve and avoid that in the future.

[winter plover]

mhm

[ornate stump]

If you're still unsure then take screenshot of how you tested it.

[violet falcon]

does anyone know how to fix this??

[ornate stump]

Clear console and see error at the top of the list.

[violet falcon]

thissss

[ornate stump]

That script is breaking it.

[umbral swallow]

Hai! I was wondering where I ask to ask somebody to help me upload an avi?

I just bought this avi I found cute and idk how to upload to both quest and pc

[ornate stump]

Help as in asking specific question, or having a person do all the job?

[umbral swallow]

More of the latter

I bought this aviii :3

It was on sale

[ornate stump]

Having a random person access your account will make you liable for whatever action that they make, and that will also affect you in the future.

[umbral swallow]

Huh?

Ive done it before

Well in that case

Is the first option hard at all?

[balmy barn]

do not have other people upload to your account, bad idea

[umbral swallow]

I mostly had it done from servers who own the avis

And my account has been fine

[balmy barn]

still a stupid idea

[umbral swallow]

Oh

[balmy barn]

see many times people get randomly banned ? someone uploaded to their account -

[ornate stump]

Still doesn't change the fact that you became liable for that person action. You should pray that they don't do something wrong to get banned because you will also get caught in the ban too.

[umbral swallow]

I'm confused now-

The people who'd upload the avis are people that the creator of the avi allowed

[balmy barn]

im scared when i see a creator that kitbashed a bunch of stuff and 'i made this' with no stats what so ever on their page, anyway its abit of a older avatar

[umbral swallow]

I'm sorry I'm just confused I thought this was a normal thing?

[ornate stump]

The problem is, I repeat again, letting other person access your account. It isn't about the avatar.

[umbral swallow]

Oh..

I mean I've been doing it for over a year and my accounts been fine

Well ignoring that

How can I upload the avi then?

[ornate stump]

It should be some instruction written in the page where you got the avatar from.

[umbral swallow]

Maybe it's in the file?..

I'm sorry I tried checking if they had a discord server and they didnt

[ornate stump]

Saying this is like I'm riding bike without helmet for years and is still fine, until that one accident hit you.

[umbral swallow]

Sorry

I just never knew how to upload them myself

[ornate stump]

You would have to install the required apps and packages first.

[balmy barn]

once you done it abit its not hard and newer sdk probably need to update the vrcfury its using anyway

[umbral swallow]

Yes

I know how the stuff and independencies work

Its just

Do I have to upload the pc version and quest version separately?

Huh...

Now that I'm checking the profile she didn't have any reviews

Am I cooked

[balmy barn]

be aware of any creator who never list their stats 🥴 it usually pretty terrible

140-200k my guess

[umbral swallow]

Sigh

I just liked the style

And the clothing was the kind I was looking for

Since most VRChat girl avis are...

Very realistic

[balmy barn]

you upload pc and then quest after using the same blueprint , but im pretty sure the quest is waaay over limit, you have to import the pages in unity to see

[umbral swallow]

Like she has other avis

[umbral swallow]

The quest part is why I'm scared of doing kt

ooh nvm

I think there's a quest version

[balmy barn]

usually 2 scenes one pc / quest , or they are in same scene

[chilly portal]

how quickly would i have to build & test an avatar to get rate limited for spam, i'm trying my best to match the colour of a previous avatar with a new shader yknow

[teal laurel]

Build and test is all local

[ornate stump]

Build & Test doesn't even call the API so there is no rate limit.

[chilly portal]

Thank you for letting me know

[echo loom]

my avatar has a phone and i want it to cycle between multple screenshots automatically, can anyone help?

[ornate stump]

You have to either use Flipbook feature on some shader, or animate material swap.

[echo loom]

well i was trying to see if anyone could help me with that

bc idk how to do it

[ornate stump]

Someone can help but you'd need to explain what you had tried and where you got stuck so far.

[elder topaz]

what's the extension everybody uses to get poses from a menu entry?

[ornate stump]

You probably are looking for Gogoloco.

[elder topaz]

yeah, that's it

[elder topaz]

I've added vrcfury to my project, how do I add gogoloco? do I just import it now?

[somber sequoia]

it has good documentation

[ornate stump]

You'd do the same way as other vrcfury asset by drag and drop the goloco vrcfury prefab into your avatar hierarchy.

[ornate stump]

And there are some extra instruction there you have to read.

[elder topaz]

the only instructions I get in the readme are to add vrcfury to use the auto prefab install

[somber sequoia]

further docs are linked here, but that's the basics: https://gogoloco.net/

[ornate stump]

The extra instruction is right beside the prefab file you have to drag into your avatar.

[umbral swallow]

i need help! qwq

[somber sequoia]

with what?

[elder topaz]

all I have is the .unitypackage

[balmy barn]

open that

[umbral swallow]

oh-

[somber sequoia]

see the first pin about sharing error messages, always show the first 2-3, not the last.

[ornate stump]

You obviously have to import the package first and foremost.

[umbral swallow]

???

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what question you are asking?

[elder topaz]

and do I just drag the gogo folder into the root of the heirarchy?

or where do I drag it?

[ornate stump]

No. Importing unitypackage by dragging it into the Project panel.

It's pretty much exactly the same way as you import your avatar package.

[elder topaz]

it's already imported

[echo loom]

so far i havent tride anything. thats why i came to ask for help so somone can maybe guide me on what to do!!

cus its my first time doing smth like this lol

[ornate stump]

Use Poiyomi shader Flipbook feature that's what I'm telling. You can take a look into that first because it's quiet obvious on how to use once you looked at it, and it also has documentation on how to use it.

[elder topaz]

now what im trying to figure out is where I put the newly imported gogo folder

[echo loom]

okay ill try that, is this a add on i can add into vcc or does it already come with the poi shader that u import into unity, and oh okay my apolgoies lol

[ornate stump]

Look for a VRCFury prefab in some folder inside of Gogoloco, that's the file you have to put in your avatar. And read IMPORTANT file right beside it.

[ornate stump]

It's a shader feature already came with it.

[elder topaz]

and do I put the prefabs anywhere in the heirarchy?

cuz it's a folder

[echo loom]

okay thank you!

[elder topaz]

or do I add the indivigual files?

[ornate stump]

You have to look inside the folder of course.

[elder topaz]

idk if vroid uses write defaults or not ;-;

[ornate stump]

This shouldn't matter because auto installer prefab doesn't care about write default.

[echo loom]

sorry where do i find the feature in the poi?

[ornate stump]

Probably in Special FX.

And there is a search function there to be used.

[echo loom]

oh i didint notice that, thank you!!

[elder topaz]

so I'm seeing gogoloco beyond and gogoloco all for the vrcfury prefab assets. does it matter which I pick?

[somber sequoia]

Also the poiyomi documentation (on poiyomi.com) is great, and searchable

[ornate stump]

Yes of course. Read the website to learn about the different.

[somber sequoia]

again, the documentation explains this

[elder topaz]

vrcfury is complaining about multiple avatar descriptors

[somber sequoia]

only have one on your avatar

[elder topaz]

I mean it says my heirarchy has multiple descriptors

[somber sequoia]

yes?

it probably does then

[elder topaz]

do I need to remove one?

[ornate stump]

So really make sure that you have only one.

[somber sequoia]

I just said that

[elder topaz]

well how do I remove one? I don't see where they're stored

[somber sequoia]

same as removing any other component in unity. and of course we can't tell you where it is from here.

[elder topaz]

cuz the only parts in the hierarchy I have are the root which contains the joints and the secondary and body which don't have any child items

but the one thing I don't see is descriptors

[balmy barn]

its a component script somewhere on your avatar, should always be one root nowhere else

[echo loom]

does anyone know how to use flipbook cus im so confused on ts

[balmy barn]

we cant guess where it is, you have to check every bone/gameobjects/mesh for it , probably searchable i have no idea how

[elder topaz]

well I found em

for some reason vroid did 2

and should I perform some of the recommended optimizations or would that break my avatar?

cuz it's saying my avatar is overall very very poor performing

idk with how vroid does stuff though

[somber sequoia]

once you have it in Unity, vroid is no longer relevant

[umbral swallow]

nvm fixed it

now how do i fix this tho?

[somber sequoia]

what is "this" here though?

[elder topaz]

my main concern is something will break if I optimize it

[somber sequoia]

possibly

[elder topaz]

so that's why idk if I should

[balmy barn]

univrm , convert vrm/vroid in blender and optimzie you will have good/poor very reasy

[somber sequoia]

I would, I aim for Medium.

[umbral swallow]

the gesture manager not working

[somber sequoia]

it's not installed, that's why the prefab is red

[elder topaz]

cuz I still have the vrm file

[balmy barn]

its not hard to convert a fbx back into vrm they have a offical vcc compatible tool for it and even support physbones

[umbral swallow]

OH

[balmy barn]

but univrm is terrrrible

[umbral swallow]

im dumb

sorry

[elder topaz]

what exactly am I converting into an fbx file?

[somber sequoia]

the vroid-produced .vrm

[elder topaz]

ohh

question is how exactly

[somber sequoia]

import into blender, export as fbx

[elder topaz]

ahh

so I import it into blender, optimise and then export as an fbx right?

[somber sequoia]

sure, do whatever you want between import and export

[elder topaz]

cuz all I wanna do is get it above poor without breaking anything

[balmy barn]

#avatar-general message getting old but its a few clicks using blender

v0 or v1 dont matter

just keep in mind quest will have issues with any vroid, they use alot of cutout shaders

quest have none of those

[elder topaz]

I see

well I'll install the stuff

no idea how to install the extension though ngl

[umbral swallow]

bro

Its so cute!

[elder topaz]

how do I install the extension?

[somber sequoia]

To install legacy add-ons, click the Install from Disk menu item and select the add-on’s .py file (if it has only one such file) or its .zip file.

https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/editors/preferences/addons.html#installing-legacy-add-ons

[elder topaz]

thank you!

[balmy barn]

drag'n drop into blender or manually

[elder topaz]

I see

[umbral swallow]

Okay so upload the pc version first?

[elder topaz]

just gotta wait for blender to download

[balmy barn]

id do pc first , get android build likely not installed after, switch and upload the quest (its going to look very very different , im guessing its also not using the newer quest shader)

[umbral swallow]

okay thats done

now how do i do the quest part?

[balmy barn]

you missing a shader

[umbral swallow]

i thought that was cause the eye itsself

and i couldnt find the eye

NVM

thank you

[balmy barn]

old shaders might need a unlock to refresh to newer

[umbral swallow]

oikie now its building

[elder topaz]

can I make blender skip the driver thing? cuz I'm doing blender 4.5 in a vm

and it's complaining about wanting a gpu driver that supports opengl 4.3 or newer

[somber sequoia]

what is, blender?

makes sense. why a vm?

[echo loom]

does anyone know how to use flipbook cus im so confused on this

[somber sequoia]

I've used it before

[elder topaz]

because I've been trying to do all this in a vm

[somber sequoia]

okay... why though?

[elder topaz]

cuz I thought there was no native package for blender for my linux distro but apparently there is

[somber sequoia]

of course there is!

(I do all of this on Linux, including Unity)

[elder topaz]

just great, now I'm getting a bunch of policy violations with the plugin

guessing that's fine?

[somber sequoia]

no idea what you're referring to

[elder topaz]

this is with the unofficial cats blender plugin

[somber sequoia]

ah, no idea, I don't use it

never seen that before though

[elder topaz]

any ideas on the errors thulen?

[balmy barn]

doesnt matter

[elder topaz]

so it's fine?

[balmy barn]

have the same errors

[elder topaz]

cuz I don't see any options to import my vrm file

[somber sequoia]

cats doesn't do that

if that's what you're thinking

[elder topaz]

ahh

so it's seperate

[somber sequoia]

oh it does? huh, didn't realize that

I thought everyone was using the vrm tool one

[elder topaz]

wait, where is that?

it's my first time using blender

[balmy barn]

n - open side bar (unless its changed again)

[elder topaz]

yep, found it

[elder topaz]

I don't have body, face and hair, all I have for the visemes step is body.001

is that fine?

[balmy barn]

Stations in vrchat want a mesh named Body to animate shapekeys , but it can be anything

[elder topaz]

I see

[elder topaz]

my avatar's style just heavily changed

[alpine ingot]

So.. if i want to edit my Avi´s mesh that is currently in Unity.. how do i go about importing it into blender then after editing it get it back in unity.. without needing to redo the entire avatar?

[elder topaz]

now that I've saved it as an fbx, now what?

[balmy barn]

unity - create and open some scene , drop fbx & texture in (unless its embedded) , and stuff setup avatar

[elder topaz]

stuff setup avatar?

[balmy barn]

im not teaching you every step, thats 30min +

tutorials come handy there

[elder topaz]

ahh, right

[balmy barn]

setting up material and its textures, assigning them, setting up vrchat descriptor/eye/viseme - physbones , ectect

[somber sequoia]

this channel is good for answering specific questions, expect to have to watch tutorials on your own, read documentation, do your own research, and experimentation.

[elder topaz]

guess I'll do it from here

[balmy barn]

once you done it a few times it get pretty fast 👍

[elder topaz]

I see

but my avatar in fbx mode is still rigged right?

[somber wigeon]

It should be.

Unless Unity somehow messes that up.

[fresh rose]

how do i configure these things again-

[pine valley]

curves are edited in the preview window at the bottom of the inspector

[elder topaz]

great, unity keeps crashing ;-;

[pine valley]

clicking on the curve (causing it to become colored, as it is in this screenshot) will let you edit it

[fresh rose]

ok thanks

[pine valley]

e.g.

to adjust the range the curve can cover, edit the number in the top left corner

[fresh rose]

eyah i know how to do that stuff i just had a brain fart lol

[alpine ingot]

Bumping this a little.. since i´m kinda under a time limit. I want this done by today so my Quest friends can see me too uvu

[pine valley]

import the FBX into Blender, edit it, and then overwrite the existing file when you export out of Blender

there is only one thing to check: does your Armature have a scale of [100, 100, 100] or [1, 1, 1]?

if it's [100, 100, 100], then use the default settings in the FBX exporter

if it's [1, 1, 1], switch the 'Apply Scalings' mode to 'FBX All'

[alpine ingot]

Where do i check that? You mean in unity or blender?

[pine valley]

look at it in the scene in Unity

[elder topaz]

great, now creator companion won't load

[pine valley]

the Armature object in particular

[alpine ingot]

So Apply scalings then

i need to use a fbx exporter, right?

in that package manager

[pine valley]

No.

You already have an FBX file in your project

[elder topaz]

anyone know why cc refuses to load in my vm now?

[pine valley]

Just import that directly into Blender

[alpine ingot]

I just drag it in?

[pine valley]

Yeah, Blender will recognize it

[balmy barn]

import fbx into blender - edit - export and overwrite to update one you already have ( dont do that if its unpacked you will need to start over / copy things over from old )

[pine valley]

the defualt import settings will work fine

and yes: this depends on your model prefab not being unpacked

you should see a package icon next to your avatar's root object

[alpine ingot]

ok so, this here i just drag into blender?

or the whole thing

the package

[pine valley]

that is a single mesh imported from the source file

it's a sub-asset

drag the main asset into Blender (either from Unity directly, or by navigating to the folder in your file browser and finding the .fbx file)

e.g. I have a file named FBX_Cat.fbx

[alpine ingot]

And the main asset is the Package?

this here?

[pine valley]

Correct, that's the asset created from your FBX file

[alpine ingot]

Theres also the prefab

[pine valley]

you can drag it into another program and it'll work just like draggign the FBX file itself

The prefab is not meaningful for Blender. You're editing the actual model file here

[alpine ingot]

okok

[pine valley]

If you aren't using version control, I'd advise backing up the project before you start working on the model

in case you mess up and, for example, export it without an armature

[alpine ingot]

I did "save as" and then put a new name

if that is enough for a backup

[somber sequoia]

use alcom, it runs natively on Linux

[elder topaz]

was tryign to do the vm again for some reason

[elder topaz]

now I just need to do the animator

[pine valley]

no, that is just saving a copy of the scene

use the Creator Companion to back up your project

[alpine ingot]

But wait.. so the reason iam trying to edit the mesh is because the eyes and such have transparency. Those dont work with the Mobile shader. The PC version is more than fine, but if i edit the mesh.. does it automatically also overwrite the mesh for the model indented to be uploaded as PC or only the one in the scene for Quest?

[pine valley]

it can make a complete copy of the project so that you can restore things later if needed

[pine valley]

If both avatars use the same model, then yes, it would

I don't know how your project is set up

In that case, it would be reasonably easy to export a new model and then switch the Quest version so that it uses the new model

[copper hill]

Can somebody help me with avatar contacts? For some reason, it doesn't want to work despite it set up correctly

[somber sequoia]

yes, ask here or #avatar-dynamics

[copper hill]

Thanks

[alpine ingot]

So i make 2 Projects? One for the PC version and one for the Quest version?

So they dont use the same model

[pine valley]

No, you would not make two projects.

You'd just use different models for the two avatars.

[elder topaz]

how do I add an animator component?

[pine valley]

if this is a humanoid model, then there should already be an Animator attached to the model prefab

[alpine ingot]

Theeen.. i´m confused.. do i just copy and paste the fbx?

[elder topaz]

cuz I just imported an fbx from blender

[alpine ingot]

i mean duplicate

[elder topaz]

but it is humanoid

[pine valley]

select the model and look at the Rig tab in the inspector, then screenshot the inspector

[elder topaz]

I don't see a rig option

[pine valley]

ah, I meant to select it in the Project window

the asset, not an object in your scene

[pine valley]

set the Animation Type to Humanoid, then hit Apply

[pine valley]

Did you create the Quest version of the avatar yourself, based on the model used for the PC version?

[elder topaz]

well now the vrchat sdk isn't complaining

[alpine ingot]

Currently i have only the Package, with the fbx and all the rigging, physbones and what not which is indented to be uploaded as a PC avi

also how do i know if a backup is created? I did click create backup but cant see if it was succesful

[pine valley]

okay, so you're making your own Quest version here

[alpine ingot]

yes

[pine valley]

In that case, you absolutely want to make a new model

I'd just import the existing FBX, then export a new FBX file

(rather than overwriting the existing one)

Show me the hierarchy for the Quest avatar. I want to see how you have that set up

unfold the object and then screenshot that

(you don't need to unfold all of its children)

[alpine ingot]

I dont have a Quest Avatar yet. Unless we count Duplicating the Package of the PC Avi

[pine valley]

what does "package" mean here?

show me what you're referring to

[alpine ingot]

is that not called a package?

in the Hierarchy

[somber sequoia]

that is a prefab

[pine valley]

indeed; it does have a "package" icon, though

i would call that a model prefab, because it's a prefab produced by importing a model

[alpine ingot]

Yeah, thats why i always have seen it as a package

but alr, so its a prefab

[pine valley]

If you're going to set up the Quest version from scratch, then just make a new version of the model and build the avatar with that

Actually, even if you want to keep everything, it'll be basically the same process

[alpine ingot]

But thats exactly it, i dont want to set it up from scratch

[pine valley]

Unity allows you replace a prefab with another prefab

[alpine ingot]

I want to just change the mesh

[pine valley]

it'll keep all of the changes you've made (assuming the relevant objects still exist)

it'll get confused if you added a component to a bone that you deleted from the Quest version, for example

[elder topaz]

what's up with my avatar's eyes?

[alpine ingot]

depending if VRC lets me upload it or not i might remove Physbones for the quest version, but i´m not there yet

[pine valley]

you do this by right clicking on the model prefab instance, then doing Prefab > Replace and Keep Overrides...

You could still have issues if the material order changes

(this depends on the order that Unity read the model in, not the order they appear in Blender)

[alpine ingot]

Ok ok ok, i think i´m getting more confused.

[elder topaz]

also why isn't it's mouth moving when I talk

[alpine ingot]

hmm

[pine valley]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar/#step-5---adding-an-avatar-descriptor

you probably haven't set up visemes

[elder topaz]

ohh, probably

[pine valley]

you are going to:

• import the existing FBX into Blender
• make edits, such as:
  • removing the parts of the model that need transparency
  • reducing the triangle count
• export a new FBX out of Blender
• switch your Quest avatar to use this new model

[alpine ingot]

If i wanna do the things as i have said... I export this into blender. Do the changes i want.. then i Export it from blender to unity as a seperate model and paste the prefab onto it?

oop

[pine valley]

The last step is the only "tricky" part

[elder topaz]

any idea why the eyelids are messed up?

[alpine ingot]

do i need to watch out for anything here?

The export to blender

[pine valley]

I always stick with the default settings here

(Save a .blend file so that you don't have to go back-and-forth every time you want to edit it)

[alpine ingot]

alr alr

but

a question

[pine valley]

oh, go to the model import settings and turn on "Legacy Blendshape Normals"

VRChat is going to force you to do that anyway

[elder topaz]

where do I do that?

[pine valley]

blendshapes can affect the direction the mesh appears to be facing

however, Unity's calculation of this is...awful

[pine valley]

select the model asset in the project window to view the importer settings

this will be in the "Model" tab

[alpine ingot]

The eyes and the eyebrows have transparency. I cant simply remove them... so how do i go about that? From what i saw i need to edit the mesh to leave out any of the transparent part, that correct?

[elder topaz]

it's already on

[pine valley]

If they use a specific material, then you can easily get rid of them by:

• selecting the body in Object Mode
• going into Edit Mode
• hitting 3 to enter face selection mode
• picking the eyebrow material and hitting Select

this will select all faces that use that material

you can then delete them by hitting X in the 3D viewport

If you have no experience with Blender at all, then you'll probably need to learn a little first

[alpine ingot]

I learned enough to get a mmd model to fbx and export with viseems..

i know that i can edit vertex and so on

also i dont see the materials in blender. Do i need to reapply them all in blender again?

[somber sequoia]

if you want them in blender you'll need to make them there, yep.

those won't transfer to/from unity in a useful way

[alpine ingot]

I know how to apply them in unity, but what do i do in blender?

is that the uv editing?

[pine valley]

You don't need the materials to be set up at all in Blender

all that matters is that you have the correct number of material slots

[alpine ingot]

but then how do i know which part of the eyebrows i need to remove for the "Transparency"

[pine valley]

if you need to make fine edits (not just deleting specific triangles), then i guess you set up a material that uses the eyebrow texture

but if you're deleting an entire chunk of the mesh, then just select those faces and delete them

[alpine ingot]

Yeah, because thats my core issue. The mobile shaders dont have a transparent setting.. so everything just becomes black

[balmy barn]

quest shader and especially vroid you want to learn the knife tool, highly recommend seperating the mesh you working on and never make a new verticie it will have no weight paint (always end on a line that turns yellow to avoid that using knife tool )

typical vroid eyebrow

test shapekeys after if its not weighted it will go straight down

[alpine ingot]

ok so

i have a eyebrow here

how did you focus on the eyebrows? (hide everything else)

[balmy barn]

select any part of it hit , to center (keypad) , ctrl+L selects mesh, p to part it , select it again - ctrl+i select everything but what you want to edit , h hides it temporary , alt + h shows everything again after

normally id use g keys so that would make no sense , and your blender shortcuts can be different then mine,

[alpine ingot]

i think i did it correct?

[balmy barn]

after that select that mesh and scroll through all the shapekeys , to check if they work, new vertice = no weight and wont move

just pick top one and hold arrow key down

[alpine ingot]

uhm

[alpine ingot]

i dont think thats right

[balmy barn]

yup those are new vertices , so have to try again

[alpine ingot]

then what did i do wrong?

how do i not make new verticies?

[proven quail]

Vrchat > mobile > particles > multiply

[alpine ingot]

It just becomes see through then

i already tried that

[proven quail]

Take the alpha map and negative image it

Black should be the eyebrows and white should be not eyebrows

[rose vine]

Alrighty peeps so ive never done this before, so i got someone to make me an avatar from scratch, i payed them to have it finished an be able to upload with no problems, but it has well over 500 errors that i have no clue what to do

[balmy barn]

need to end at a line, if not you are making a vertice and id rather not recommend that particle one it might just stop working one day

(also + 1 material )

[alpine ingot]

oh, i just kinda did it wherever

[proven quail]

Why would it stop working one day? That makes no sense

Don't make me tap the sign

[proven quail]

Alternatively, the skin shading looks pretty flat. You could just create a texture where the eyebrow is colored the correct color and then the background is the skin color. I've done that for vroids in the past

[balmy barn]

eyebrows move , rather not add alpha on quest when you have knife tool its already struggling with fps, +1 material on quest too instant poor

knife tool is very easy to learn , just good luck if its hair cards

if i cant make my quest av good rated, ive done a poor job

[proven quail]

Quest doesn't struggle with the particle shaders, and an extra material... You can for sure cut the mesh but then the eyebrows are not modular (you can't swap them easily with different brows, for example). Also it's a lot more work but pretending like quest can't use transparency is just dishonest. And everyone gets so upity about the rank when every good quest avatar is Very Poor.

Very poor on quest is optimized quite a bit

It's nothing like very poor on pc

[balmy barn]

vroid avs use alot of cutouts so slapping on a shader to skip knife tool wont help much for a skirt

but i see you constantly recommending it you do you, i dont recommend it at all

[proven quail]

Yes vroid usually needs the cut tool, but not the eyebrows. I've done my fair share of cutting up vroid assets. But doing tedious cutting on eyebrows, something that doesn't need to be completely opaque, is kind of much.

Vroid is supposed to be the 'easier' route to avatar creation, yet their assets require a lot of work for quest.

Pretending like quest can't do certain things just makes the process longer. I've seen people completely give up on quest versions because they are convinced it has to be within 70k polys or can't use a particle or something.

[alpine ingot]

did i do it correct now?

[balmy barn]

yup long as they dont go straight down when testing shapekeys it will behave

then just merge everything after, skirts/shirts probably have black spots too

[alpine ingot]

i did click the star with one of the shapekeys so it should work then

[alpine ingot]

i dont think i saw any black spots

even with mobile shaders in unity

[balmy barn]

test them all , only some affect them - vroid have funny names

when in unity , anything using a cutout shader appear like solid black

least quest have backface culling now so both sides can be visible

your average vroid skirt ^

[alpine ingot]

why is the skirt fucked up in unity suddenly?!

thats with normal shaders

something weird is going on

when i do the shortcut for undo it spazs out

[balmy barn]

if you are using the outline shader it wont work on quest and backside will turn black if culling is off (i think not sure ive tried it)

[alpine ingot]

yeah i know

but like

something weird is with the avi

i dont know since when it happened

but for some reason the skirt is all fucked

in earlier versions its okay?

OH wait

i did a backup

how can i access it?

this here, right?

aaaand even in the backup its broken, cool

[balmy barn]

check rig setting, if it says alot of transforms changed reset it by setting it generic and back to humanoid

[alpine ingot]

is there a way to fix that?

hmm alr

[alpine ingot]

Did nothing

though i can also say in the rig itself it looks fine

atleast the uploaded versions seems to be fine.. before that happened with the skirt

[low wing]

ok i forget, since its been many years since i made anything, how do i tell how tall something is, along with doing the action wheel thing?

plus i need to figure out shape keys XD

^ but that last one is not relavent

also how do i get shaders again?

[teal laurel]

How many bones 💀💀💀

The skirt alone has more bones that my entire avatar

[low wing]

LOL

XD

[alpine ingot]

also quick question.. do i need to merge any bones or reduce triangles?

[balmy barn]

make things exsist first , then optimize later , vroid ones shouldnt need much bone merging to hit good/medium rating - grouping up bones in blender is a must for good optimization tho , so you use one physbone for a group of hair / skirt ect instead of one for each

[alpine ingot]

oh yeah, that i did already

and this not too high?

[balmy barn]

<70k for a rating that not very poor , hairs in vroids tend to be massive

[pine valley]

83,000 triangles is already Very Poor on PC

if you're intending to use this on Quest, then that's excessively high

[balmy barn]

some strands can be 5k each and you wont even notice if its removed

[alpine ingot]

so i decimate a bit?

i got it down to 57K triangles

still looks alright i´d say

just so i make sure, that is a okay amount of triangles for quest? Dont want to go back again in blender if its too much

[balmy barn]

quest is much much lower

<20k wich is pretty hard , why you see so many very poors on it

[alpine ingot]

If i´m over 20K.. do i still get to upload the avi? or will it just deny it

[teal laurel]

Will still work

[balmy barn]

you can , but it also have a 10mb limit and some meshes are just plain too big

[teal laurel]

But will be set to a very poor performance rank

[alpine ingot]

aslong as i can get it to work

can i check in blender how big the mesh is?

[balmy barn]

just upload it will tell you if its too big, doubt yours hit 10mb+

[alpine ingot]

ok so, i have removed the black parts of the mesh... i now just export it as fbx and replace the mesh of the avatar i plan to use for quest in unity?

[balmy barn]

either overwrite old one , or save as new fbx and set that up , quest and pc dont need to be the same fbx

can be 2 totally different avatar looks many used a square with a image on it for quest

[alpine ingot]

I did import it as a second model.. but..

is the mesh supposed to be sideways?

in this little preview

[balmy barn]

yup

[alpine ingot]

ok, because the first one doesnt have that

alright

so

I copied the prefab package of the first one, the PC one

do i now do this?

[balmy barn]

err no , never done that

[somber sequoia]

ugh. can I just disable VRCfury's parameter compressor?

[alpine ingot]

then uhm.. i suppose i ask the person that suggested it

[balmy barn]

i just overwrite fbx from blender , replace never used in 100's of avs ive setup

[alpine ingot]

oh

but i dont want to replace the PC model too

i want 2 different versions

but keeping all the stuff i did in unity like physbones and animations

[balmy barn]

then just save it as another fbx , pc.fbx , quest.fbx exsample, you can always copy stuff over using pumkin tools

[alpine ingot]

that i did do

[alpine ingot]

then i imported it

[somber sequoia]

oh huh, I'm way over, interesting

[alpine ingot]

So i have a second fbx now that is edited in blender. How do i replace the mesh now in unity?

[balmy barn]

just drag it into scene then set that up , only time ive ever replaced a mesh when i was messing with vrcfury blendshape optimizer and i just duplicated the mesh it spit out so i didnt have to run it again on build i just replaced this Body

[pine valley]

this is very brittle

if the bone order has changed at all, the deformation will no longer make sense

[alpine ingot]

gone

[pine valley]

you'll want to swap out the entire model prefab

[pine valley]

right click on the prefab instance – the object with the package icon next to it – and then run Prefab > Replace and Keep Overrides

This will prompt you to select a prefab to replace with

Search for the name of the new FBX you've exported

[alpine ingot]

explosion

[pine valley]

did you switch the Apply Scalings mode to "FBX All" when exporting the FBX?

if not, re-export it with the correct mode

[alpine ingot]

From blender to unity right?

[pine valley]

Correct.

[alpine ingot]

ok good

phew

for a second i thought i need to do it again in blender

[pine valley]

you're just changing an export setting.

[alpine ingot]

didnt explode

but

this

i assume its just the materials in wrong order?

[pine valley]

Yeah, they probably got scrambled

Do you have any material swap animations right now?

If so, it might be worth fixing the order

otherwise I'd just reassign them as needed

[alpine ingot]

i can make materials swaps a animation?...

[pine valley]

You can use animations to switch materials, yes

[alpine ingot]

I just used a plane and moved it infront of the eyes for a eye change...

i asked here for that but didnt get a answer so i improvised

[pine valley]

there used to be a very funny bug where you couldn't animate material slot 3

(starting from 0, so the fourth one in the list)

but that is no longer a problem

record the animation, then assign a new material in the inspector

[alpine ingot]

its that easy?!

why couldnt i find a answer anywhere

i searched for like half a hour

oh no..

The new one doesnt have any blendshapes

I dont have to redo that all again, right?!

[pine valley]

you probably just have an issue with your export settings

Do you have shape keys in Blender?

[alpine ingot]

i do

[pine valley]

Switch to the Modifiers tab

the one with a wrench on it

[alpine ingot]

yeah

[pine valley]

do you have any modifiers other than "Armature" on your body?

[alpine ingot]

decimate

[balmy barn]

decimate deletes your shapekeys, you want clean up instead

[pine valley]

Blender can't apply most modifiers to a mesh with shape keys. Very annoying limitation.

You can easily replace the Decimate modifier with the Decimator operator

[alpine ingot]

then how do i optimize that for quest?

[alpine ingot]

with that?

[pine valley]

actually, i should check if that keeps your keys

one moment

[balmy barn]

same as decimate and keeps shapekeys

[pine valley]

okay, yes, it does

[alpine ingot]

so i remove all decimate

[pine valley]

ah, yes, it's in the Clean Up menu

(I basically always run operators from the F3 search menu 😛 )

[pine valley]

Correct – you'll then manually decimate the model instead of using an operator

This is a nuisance

Since you can no longer adjust the level of decimation later on

[alpine ingot]

manually?

[pine valley]

by using the Decimate Geometry operator, as Thulen showed above

[alpine ingot]

also where can i even find that

[balmy barn]

id avoid face/fingers , hair is one that get decimated ifi i have to and too lazy

[pine valley]

the image includes the menu to click on

select the part of the model you want to decimate (or just hit A to decimate the entire thing)

[alpine ingot]

but where do i find that menu

[pine valley]

it's in your 3D viewport

you must be in Edit Mode

after running the operator, you'll need to adjust the level of decimation. You do this in the Adjust Last Operation panel, which will pop up in the corner after running the operator

[alpine ingot]

so i have to manually click what i want to decimate with that?

[pine valley]

you can select the entire model if you want to decimate the entire thing at once

which is what you were previously doing anyway

[alpine ingot]

i wasnt

i mostly decimated the hair

[pine valley]

okay, but you were decimating entire objects

[alpine ingot]

face got too ugly even at a 1 angle

[alpine ingot]

yes

[pine valley]

select the hair object, go into edit mode, hit A to select all faces, and then run the operator

[alpine ingot]

i did that, can i not edit it? I clicked the menu away

[pine valley]

Undo.

Run the operator again and then adjust it in the panel that appears

[alpine ingot]

oh, so not a neat little menu to adjust..

[pine valley]

This is the downside to destructively using an operator, yes.

[alpine ingot]

just do it over till it works

alr

back down to 57K

yippie

all my blendshapes

[balmy barn]

matcombiner spits out square texture , select what part of it you want cleaned up/decimated in the uv selection and apply modifier (also make it easy to mask things but thats a future thing)

[alpine ingot]

also for the shaders.. do i use Toon Standard or Toon Lit?

[balmy barn]

standard is the newest and have backface culling and ability to disable vertex colors

comes with a bunch of new stuff for quest shaders

these things helps quest alot

[alpine ingot]

aaah, i forgot the eyelashes

[orchid blade]

How can I make grabbable and moveable mesh/physbones? for example an avatar that the eyes popping out can be grabbed by myself and other players and moved and can be posed elsewhere on the head

Also stretchable too if possible

[somber sequoia]

put a physbone component on the eye bone. You'll probably lose rotations but you could rig that up with constraints, using a set of bones that VRChat drives as the source.

[gilded zealot]

@sleek elm

[elder nova]

OK, so I’m uploading an avatar and I have the PC version uploaded. I’m just trying to upload the quest version, but there is no scene there’s only a fbx. What do I do?

[pine valley]

you could add a "fake" eye bone that VRChat controls

and then use a parent constraint to move your eyes between those bones and a separate set of physbones

[somber sequoia]

that is what I said

[somber sequoia]

if that's all your creator provided, you'll have to set that up from scratch. Could drag it into the scene, then use Pumkin's tools to copy stuff over to it.

[pine valley]

oh, yes, you did

dies

[elder nova]

Yeah I have no clue how to do anything from scratch lmao.

[somber sequoia]

there are tutorials

[elder nova]

Oh ok I’ll find one. Thank you

[soft ingot]

so i have my quest file on the unity and everything is good but it wont let me pick android

what should i do

[somber sequoia]

install android build tools into your unity. In unity hub, under installs, you'll find the editor. If "android" is not listed, click "manage" and add it

[onyx pecan]

how would I make a toggle when you open your hand its like your throwing something it like a spear?

[soft ingot]

thanks

[alpine ingot]

Tried to build the avatar for Android, gave me this for some reason

I´m only using Mobile shaders

so no idea what this one is

[somber sequoia]

look in the build window for warnings/alerts

[ornate stump]

Does it show errors in Review any Alerts?

[alpine ingot]

tf.. apparently somewhere are non mobile shaders hiding

[ornate stump]

You just have to be thorough.

[somber sequoia]

check material swaps and particle systems

[alpine ingot]

omg

i think i´m going to explode

If i dont meet the Maximums atleast it just wont work, right?

nvm.. it seems it uploaded..

[ornate stump]

It works. Only downsides are your avatar won't be shown by default and is unusable on phone.

[alpine ingot]

Vrchat exists on the phone?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[alpine ingot]

why would anyone do that to themselves..

[somber sequoia]

haha

[ornate stump]

Some people just don't have many choices.

[alpine ingot]

Yeah but, you can barely see anything then not to mention not being able to see the avatars. Vrchat doesnt sound like a phone friendly game

[ornate stump]

There actually only a few phone models that can run it.

Also Quest is just a glorified android phone strapped to the face.

[alpine ingot]

fair

but damn, making a avi Quest compatible is straight up torture

OMG somehow all this ruined my skirt even for the uploaded version

I´m gonna explode

[gaunt imp]

question for those who have been messing around with the raycast system, When trying to set up a throwable object, for some reason my axes orientation flips when on a wall or a floor, The Walls Orientation is set up properly, but when the ray hits the floor i start to have some problems

just a quick dummy setup for this case

[alpine ingot]

Legit how does this happen? How can the skirt just change in unity without me directly touching the model. I cant even move parts of the skirt in the corret position

[ivory star]

Anyone know a better way to run topology on the Hips and shoulders on my base? No matter what I do for rigging, it doesnt seem to help when importing to VRChat, so im assuming its a topology problem.

[ornate stump]

Topology doesn't have anything to do with model importing.

[ivory star]

lol, it does when the bones don`t deform the mesh properly when imported.

[ornate stump]

You would have seen the same result in the 3D modeling software if you moved bones in the same way.

[ivory star]

Negative. I made a post a while back here precisely because the bones were moving differently in unity/vrchat. here are the results. Grey in blender, colored in unity

[stray lintel]

hi yall

trying to make a rainbow hue shift using vrcfury

how do i do that

[ivory star]

like an RGB?

[stray lintel]

yes

[ornate stump]

This rather seem to be bones are in different position. Still it isn't about mesh topology.

[ivory star]

that`s what i thought so I tried to straighten everything like a reference found in the rigging channel and it was the same result even while uploading on a seperate project as well... so i was assumin the mesh was bieng wierd at this point

[ornate stump]

How does the model look like in rest pose in unity?

[ivory star]

the same

[ivory star]

the deformations are the only thing acting wierd

[ornate stump]

You might have to be aware about number of vertex group being assigned in the vertices. Unity usually limit 4 vertex group per vertex and discard the rest.

[pine valley]

You can check the number of vertex groups by selecting a single vertex and looking in the 'Item' menu on the right

(in Blender)

[ivory star]

ahhhhhh so they need to be less blended? the chest,neck,shoulder,and arm are the only ones there?

[ornate stump]

Sounds about right because that area often has 4 or more bones close to each other.

[ivory star]

so if you add twist bones, would you get rid of the weights on the arm bone and replace them with the twist bones??

[ornate stump]

Should put on the twisted bone instead.

[stoic bobcat]

any one have good shaders or particles to have fire? Trying to add heatblasts fire but dont really have anything for his fire

[stray lintel]

anyone able to help me

[ivory star]

ok, that might have been what was interfering there. I never put the weight to 0 on the upper arm bone so it was probably interfering with unity recognizing it. would never have figured that out honestly.

[ornate stump]

Sounds about right too if the twisted bone is the fifth bone there.

[ivory star]

try to use this animation process and make sure that it has loop turned on before assigning it as you would any toggle in vrc fury. that should work. I couldn`t find any videos specifically for this. since it is meant to loop, you may need to also run the process backwards so that animation loop is smooth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkVlkrQ6ypE

[ivory star]

As I say that LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ9fD2fcp0w

[stray lintel]

Oh yuh

[broken lotus]

why wont gogoloco apply to my avatar

[somber sequoia]

dunno. can you describe what you did and what is happening?

[broken lotus]

i opened up gogoloco

into the assets

and it just doesnt work

im not sure

i didn't touch it at first

[surreal salmon]

im trying to use the MAYU model but it seems to be a bit broken now. and despite having purchades it and having the key. and my email on gumroad maching my discord email. i cant join the creators discord to ask for help there

[broken lotus]

but then after the first time it didn't work i put it in the avatars folder

i usually dont have these kinds of issues, that's why i'm here asking

[somber sequoia]

Just dropping the package there doesn't add it to the avatar. Have you read the documentation on it? If you're using VRCFury, all you need to do is find the right prefab and drag that onto your avatar.

[broken lotus]

i'm using vrcfury, is this the prefab?

[somber sequoia]

that is a folder

[broken lotus]

this?

[somber sequoia]

Looks right to me, but I don't use this and haven't read the docs in a while.

[broken lotus]

it says there's an auto install

[somber sequoia]

afaik you just drag one of those prefabs onto your avatar and that's all

[prisma sedge]

There is.
Top of unity>Tools>GoGoLoco>Add Prefabs
Since you're using VRCFury either select all or beyond.
Beyond gives you flight option while all doesn't

[somber sequoia]

ooh I didn't know that was there

[proper oriole]

anyone know why the hip is down there?

[somber sequoia]

not sure what you're looking at in this pic

[proper oriole]

the hip tracker is all the way down there for some reason

[timber wharf]

thats towards steamvr not avatars

[somber sequoia]

#full-body-trackingif it happens on all avatars

[proper oriole]

ty

[broken lotus]

how do i use this

[arctic ginkgo]

Well it looks like all you need to do is drag the avatar into the slot and then click the button for which prefab you want to add.

[vagrant valve]

Is anyone else struggling to get raycasts to work? I added a vrcraycast component for a gimmick on my avi and set the collision to both world and avatar, but it seems to only sometimes hit the world?

[cosmic sequoia]

I've managed to make it work in Unity, both with particle effect and sound! BUT I have a problem! For some reason, neither me or others can interact with it! Player interaction is enabled in vrchat too! In Unity, everything works just fine! I have no clue why it's not working!

[obsidian chasm]

I return bearing a new issue

[odd crow]

is it possible to add videos to a item, like if i gave my avatar a phone could i add videos to it?

[pearl spruce]

how tf do i do what its asking me to do

[mental cairn]

Could someone help me for this please 😣

[somber sequoia]

only if it's a flipbook, you can't play videos on your avatar

[somber sequoia]

look at your avatar descriptor, and if it has gogo-loco named animators in the playable layers slots, then you shouldn't be using the vrcfury prefab version

[pearl spruce]

gah thanks so much

[odd crow]

What is a flip book?

[white helm]

Hey i need some help for anyone willing. I bought some add on clothes for a paid avi but im having the damndest time uploading and the videos ive found move way to fast Anyone willing to help me figure this stuff out

[somber sequoia]

a sequence of images which you can animate like a video

[uncut wharf]

can someone help. idk why my avatar's doing this is this a blender mess up orrr can it be fixed in unity?

[snow sandal]

What are these colored patches that appear when using the VRChat Mobile Standard Lite shader, and how do I removed them ?

[ornate stump]

It's vertex color, aka color data that exist on the model itself. You could remove it in blender, or simply change shader to Toon Standard instead because it allows you change whether it's going to use vertex color or not.

[snow sandal]

🙏 thank you

[pearl spruce]

Can you change/edit an avatars sculpt in unity instead of blender? I wanna edit a personal paid avatar but I only have unity files for it.

[balmy barn]

if it has a fbx you can import it into blender, if not you got scammed

[ornate stump]

No.

And "only unity files" doesn't make sense. You likely misunderstood about unitypackage file.

[frigid flicker]

@worn kiln
Sorry idk how to get the active chat mod ping
Spam post Mr. Beast scam

[worn kiln]

?tag report

[flat musk]

If you notice something that doesn't look right, please report it as follows or mention Active Chat Mod.

[frigid flicker]

Oooohhhh ok
Im use to servers were we @ the mods. Never did a report that way thank you

[ebon knoll]

hai~ would love some help.
1- using the gestures manager, left hand gesture overrides right hand gesture, but then if i uncheck right hand and check it again it doesn't override left hand.
2- unchecking both doesn't reset to default, how/where do I set this up?

[pearl spruce]

Blender doesn't let me import any of my unity files directly, but I have since learned thats because I have to export it as an fbx from unity before anything. I'm so sorry for being dumb!

[ornate stump]

What kind of model file that you have exactly?

[pearl spruce]

confusion, what exactly are you asking? ;o;

[ornate stump]

You know that each file has its own extension? And if you don't have fbx file, then what the file the model actually is?

[pearl spruce]

First question, I'll be honest lost me there. Second, its a unitypackage file, its like just an entire paid egirl avi I wanna edit ;o;

[ornate stump]

As my initial thought, you're completely misunderstanding about the Unitypackage file.

[pearl spruce]

I definitely am, I have no clue what I'm doing. I just finally got the hang of uploading avatars and thought to jump right into doing edits. I'm so lost lmfao

[ornate stump]

You have to import the unitypackage into unity first and foremost, then you find the model FBX file from what you had imported.

[pearl spruce]

I see

LMFAO

im sorry 😭

[solemn tangle]

idk what happened, but my Unity personal license just decided to just... not exist for today

and i can't get it back

[ornate stump]

What do you mean you can't? Did you do it via unity hub?

[solemn tangle]

i just get this, and im logged in

[balmy barn]

download / activate one, gotten that twice over the years cause *reasons🤷‍♂️ *

[solemn tangle]

i just restarted my pc, that seemed to fix it

[somber sequoia]

oh nice, Jellejurre has a PR open to add raycast to AV3 emulator

[idle sapphire]

is there anyone that uploads avatars?

[somber sequoia]

you should do that yourself, don't share your account credentials.
Also if you want to commission someone, go to the VRC Traders discord, you'll just find scammers here.

[edgy wind]

Hi I am looking for little bit of help with Tsuranari-san the Corporate Slave that has phone gimmick. I want to use it on the Zev base but it is not working in gesture menu? when go in play mode also this keeps remove it seems? this NDMF tool?

[ornate stump]

Did you actually put the prefab inside of avatar hierarchy?

[edgy wind]

Yeah it in the right place I think?

[ornate stump]

Are you uploading android platform? That's the camera got removed because android doesn't let you put camera component on your avatar.

[edgy wind]

Well even on pc all the other items like mic and such work just this phone prefab is not show up in.

[ornate stump]

Can you actually double check that the build target is set to PC?

[edgy wind]

No this for pc I normal do like basic version of it where quest can see me hold it

[edgy wind]

the toggle should show on both though right?

and am on windows

[ornate stump]

Then the problem is the error on MA Menu Installer component.

[edgy wind]

😞 I am think that or ive not setup the gimick right maybe

[ornate stump]

Just click "Select Menu" and choose the correct menu on your avatar.

[edgy wind]

🙃 got it to work it was menu not setup right

[faint elbow]

hey got a question

can someone help me rig a avatar

i dont know what im doing

[shy owl]

can someone help me upload my first paid avatar

[edgy wind]

thanks it working

the pivot point?

[edgy wind]

If it paid one normal their a little page that tell you how to upload

[edgy wind]

If it fbx their is a very basic website u can use with next to no skill

mixamo does that for free

but super bad you better to learn rigging

[faint elbow]

ok

thanks

[idle sapphire]

How do I fix this because I set it up like how it came?

[olive folio]

Guys, I want a object to be hidden on the avatar preview, but when I unmark the object on unity and upload it, it doesn't show even when its toggled on, have you guys had any trouble like this?

I'm using modular avatar, I also tried to set default off on toggle but it doesnt hide on preview for some reason

[ornate stump]

If the object is toggle via MA Toggle, you have to set parameter default to disable the object toggle.

[olive folio]

First time trying to play around with parameters, layers and animation, wish me luck

[ornate stump]

With modular avatar, you don't even have to go into layers or animations.

Unless you meant MA exists in your project but you aren't actually using it.

[olive folio]

When i setted, default off even toggling on it doesnt show up, and it also appears on preview, something i dont want to

[ornate stump]

Does it show in the editing scene?

[simple imp]

A bit of a technical question. I'm trying to make a height changer. (not a scaler). For my avatar I can't seem to make the root position of the avatar change in game but it works in Unity. If any one knows how this is done by loco im all ears becuase loco is magic to me.

[simple imp]

Make sure nothing is making the skin mesh layer turn off. MD loves to do things behide your back

[ornate stump]

Skin mesh layer what?

[ornate stump]

"Skinned Mesh Renderer"

[simple imp]

Technically its a component not a layer

[ornate stump]

No one had called that a layer.

[simple imp]

I did

[ornate stump]

You should start using terminologies the same as everyone else.

And MA doesn't toggle by component so disabling the component is incorrect solution.

[simple imp]

Yes the radical amrature is not colibrating to my avatar 3.0. The terminologies are useless tbh

[ornate stump]

If you're going to communicate with other people then the terminologies are important.

[simple imp]

I think useing a language humans understand is actually important

[ornate stump]

If you're calling a cat as a dog, you're going to have a problem with communication.

[olive folio]

I feel like at this point it should be so easy and clear thing to do, but for some reason it just doesnt work, i dont understand why some objects when disabled on unity and uploaded show up when its toggled on vrchat but some when disabled dont work, thats so dumb, its prob me the issue

[ornate stump]

That how's MA works, it shows the "default" object states according to the default MA parameters.

[unkempt canopy]

does anyone know how to have a toggle for the colour on a particle other than just duplicating the object?

[ornate stump]

If you disable object in hierarchy, but reactive object parameter is to enable by default, it's going to be shown in the scene regardless of the object active state.

[ornate stump]

You have to make animation that animates particle starting color.

[simple imp]

If an object is turned off the turning off signal to it won't do anything because it was already off.

[unkempt canopy]

oh you can animate it?

ty

[olive folio]

Its so good to just give up on things when they doesnt work
I will try another time... one day i will learn it

[fluid rain]

it took me 2 days to get a windows vrchat avatar to work as a complete dumbarse from a vrm

[olive folio]

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-low-cortisol-low-cortisol-dance-nanami-kento-gif-15223662041691571777

loving is letting go

[mellow halo]

Hey, Its my first time working on a character so I'm very stupid when it comes to working with unity. I bought a character and clothes because they were on sale but I dont know how to add the textures to them. They are in a bright pink and I cant find a way to add the textures. I cant even find the textures i have to add o7

[olive folio]

I found a solution guys, i just deleted that object and got another one with from another creator that is hidden on preview and shows up when its toggled on

[somber sequoia]

pink might be missing textures, but might be a missing shader. Click on the object, then look at the materials in the inspector.

[mellow halo]

Element 0 - 3 says Missing (Material) do I need to drag and drop a texture onto that field?

[somber sequoia]

No, if it says Material then that's what you need in there

textures go into materials, materials go into the material slots in mesh renderers

[mellow halo]

ok i kinda get it. I have a file called 3_UV Materials and 2 files called Texture 1_3 and Texture 2_3
what do these numbers mean?

[pine valley]

that's up to whoever created the materials

might just be a numbering scheme to organize them

[mellow halo]

i thought so but now I have to figure it out o7

[pine valley]

If you're seeing missing materials immediately after importing the package, you're probably missing something

Check the instructions that came with the avatar

(although, it would be pretty unusual to provide the materials in a completely separate package)

[mellow halo]

there are no instructions. thats my problem

[somber sequoia]

difficult to take guesses that way, unfortunately

[mellow halo]

I also had .fbx files and 4 different .prefeb's for the clothes. I wasnt sure which one I should use. The .fbx is just grey and the 4 prefebs are pink

[fluid rain]

how can i fix this?

[mellow halo]

also I have 2 materials. one is the base color and one is a mask. how do I apply those?

[pine valley]

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations/#shaders