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[tired osprey]

no for a model i have

[ornate stump]

Post your question in #1138520828556890214

[tired osprey]

i did

[ornate stump]

Wait until someone who know the answer come across to see your post.

[uneven slate]

Has someone a idea why the boxers are not turned on visually. Blend shapes work seemingly. Gesture manager debug says bool is toggled on. the thing it could be is animation not working correctly since it is a mashup of two avatars of the same kind with different clothing pieces, but i have no idea how to debug that or even how tho fix that then.

[somber sequoia]

You can switch to the Animator window and watch what it's doing while testing with gesture manager.

make sure when you do the toggle, the variable does indeed change, both in the parameters list and the animator, then watch that animator layer to see that it behaves as you expect.

[ornate stump]

Can you as well highlight which object in hierarchy is the boxers?

[somber sequoia]

beware scammers.

I mean people should be aware that we often have scammers around here.

that's a weird conclusion to jump to

[prisma frigate]

i ugly snorted at that reply-

[somber sequoia]

because it's a good thing to mention from time to time, especially to new people.

[ornate stump]

There are tons of scammer around here.

[tired osprey]

Will do You May

[tired osprey]

ty

[tired osprey]

how does 1 get the blue role

you havent sent me a message req

[ornate stump]

Keep helping community.

[tired osprey]

is it just messages sent or

[tired osprey]

That doesnt sound good 🫠

[ornate stump]

What does that mean?

[vague cedar]

im having issues with blender weight painting. its been a week marathon and im still to find a tutorial that explains perfectly how to weight paint clothes. ive even invested in addons that should automate this like Voxel Heat Diffuse which did a remarkable job in merging the clothes to the avatar, but there is still issues of clipping around the pelvis area when i move. the effective option ive find is deleting the mesh underneath the clothes, but i thought maybe i should consult here before doing so.

[tired osprey]

is it a message based role

[somber sequoia]

there is no perfect tutorial or perfect method, it's different every time.
My #1 suggestion though is to not be afraid to rework the topology so it bends the way you want it to.

[ornate stump]

No? It's just being helpful, consistent, and becoming well-known for everyone in this server.

[vague cedar]

im fatigued with hours of tutorials ill give this a try

thanks

[somber sequoia]

oh yes, it's very tiresome 🙂

[tired osprey]

okiii

[uneven slate]

it doesn't show anything but works for everything exept the newly added boxers

[uneven slate]

of course

[ornate stump]

If you can still toggle the object active checkbox while testing with gesture manager, that mean the animation clip isn't working.

[uneven slate]

jeah thats what i thought as well

[ornate stump]

Do you confirm that you can still click on the checkbox to show the object?

[uneven slate]

jep i confirm

[ornate stump]

How did you make toggle for it?

[uneven slate]

using the standard vrc method by creating a parameter and menu item manually (if thats standard) since i found it easier than vrcfury

[ornate stump]

What about FX layer and animation?

[uneven slate]

Can you remind me what the fx layer is?😅

[ornate stump]

The animator controller for animating everything that isn't humanoid bone.

So you pretty much thought it's easier because you missed out half of the steps.

[uneven slate]

dont think so, just didnt know the name, at least i have it set up i think everything is just like the other toggles

[ornate stump]

How is it look like when you're record the animation for the toggle?

[uneven slate]

wait i just thought of something, since i have multiple avatars in scene maybe this is for a different avatar, is there a way to select witch avatar this animator belongs to?

[uneven slate]

i have no idea since all animations already exist from the 2nd avatar

[ornate stump]

When recording animation, you still have to select the object in the scene which already a part of your avatar.

Mutliple avatars in the scene is irrelevant. The problem for that only is you recorded animation from one avatar and used it in another avatar.

[uneven slate]

so i should make a new animation

[ornate stump]

Do you confirm that is a problem? If you're sure then record new animation for it.

[uneven slate]

i mean i have no idea im gonna watch a tutorial on animations and try that

[pliant jungle]

where do I get free avatar bases

[stray trench]

do i need blender 3.5 or lower for cats blender plugin?

or can i use latest version of blender?

[left gull]

look on Jinxxy,Gumroad,Payhip or Booth/Boothplorer

you could also just make a post in #1138520828556890214 with a short description of the type of base style you're looking for

[pliant jungle]

thanks

[unkempt seal]

Power went out last night while I was uploading this and now it won’t upload instead it shows me this. Idk how to fix it

[stray trench]

thats a generic error that doesnt specify what the actual issue is

you should check the console log to see if there are more detailed errors

[unkempt seal]

The console isn’t much help either :T one sec I’ll take a pic

[ornate stump]

The error already is showing in the first screenshot.

[unkempt seal]

The hierarchy one? I can’t fix that without breaking the avatar :T

[ornate stump]

It is breaking already though.

[unkempt seal]

I tried to rerig it but I couldn’t so 🤷‍♂️ I tried mixamo and it kept saying there was already a rig even after I deleted it

[ornate stump]

You need to configure the importing rig in unity.

[unkempt seal]

not too sure how to do that 🤔

[ornate stump]

https://youtu.be/rRAnDMUbWt8?t=42

[unkempt seal]

i unpacked the prefab earlier lol idk how to pack it all back up either lmao but this shouldnt be causing the validation problem. i work with messed up rigs like this all the time

[ornate stump]

You can't repack. Also watch the video.

It's just a bad idea to unpack to begin with.

[unkempt seal]

i cant move stuff around otherwise :P

[ornate stump]

That's exactly what you should not be doing.

[unkempt seal]

its what i gotta do. the model came with weapons unattached to the right bones so the weapons and stuff would just sit in the air when i moved and i dont want that

[ornate stump]

That's what you have to use constraint component for.

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, that's not how you fix that. You could move them around in Blender if you want to actually move them.

[unkempt seal]

This was its own thing in the hierarchy and I unpacked it so I could put it on the arm

[ornate stump]

2 solutions were given to you above.

[somber sequoia]

I guess if you'll never ever update the model in Blender, unpacking it isn't so bad.

[unkempt seal]

Easier for me to do unity. I dare not touch blender unless it’s to make blendshapes and fuse things. Plus I need this to be a toggle

[somber sequoia]

but the downsides of doing that usually outweigh the benefit.

[uneven slate]

i made new animations but it still does not toggle on

[ornate stump]

Can you show how it's look like when recording?

[stray trench]

could still be a toggle

[uneven slate]

it is always toggled on in animation except at the end of the off animation

[uneven slate]

with the position i hope that works in playmode😐

[ornate stump]

This look like the WOLF ALT (1) has its own Animator component and you're recording form its context, which isn't going to work of you use that animation in your FX layer.

[teal laurel]

aaaa merge meshes

pls 🥺

[stray trench]

that guys not gonna listen lol

he is determined to do it the way he is already doing it

[teal laurel]

i have exactly 1 body mesh, you have 22 by default

[uneven slate]

it has that yes but i was told i should not delete it because without that i cant us the clothing from the donor avatar

[teal laurel]

the performance is gonna be atrocious

[uneven slate]

how?

[ornate stump]

If they aren't going to touch blender, one mesh can only be a dream.

[ornate stump]

It's better to just delete it because it's just useless there.

[stray trench]

like 2% of vrc users have 1 mesh and its only the people who care about that kind of thing

you are wasting your breath asking a random beginner to have 1 mesh

that takes decent effort, relatively speaking

[teal laurel]

each mesh makes one draw calls per material. More meshes and more materials, more draw calls.
Also, do you really need so many sets of hair?

[ornate stump]

What tool that you use for linking clothes?

[teal laurel]

hair just being an example

[uneven slate]

hey i mean i can do a bit in blender but this one is basically the default version from foxiepaws you can buy

[teal laurel]

foxypaw avis are unoptimized af, change my mind xd

plus you also have sps on it

[uneven slate]

i plan on removing stuff and adding stuff but at the moment i am struggling with adding

[uneven slate]

very observent

[uneven slate]

none just adding in under the hierarchy

[ornate stump]

It hasn't even linked?

[vague cedar]

OMG all i used the remesh addon for a cleaner wireframe you were right! without even opening weight painting and it worked like magic no CLIPPING!! thank you so much @somber sequoia

[uneven slate]

nah wait vrc fury my bad

[stray trench]

anyone have an answer for this

[ornate stump]

vrc fury doesn't rely on animator component for linking.

[ornate stump]

What I said it you can just delete the animator component there.

[crude anvil]

any advice to get rid of the culling?

If you know what that is

Because the back of the jacket is invisible when it shouldn't be

[somber sequoia]

It's a property in your material.

usually depends on which shader you're using

[somber sequoia]

In Poiyomi, it's all the way at the bottom, under rendering

[crude anvil]

That worked. Thanks

What about this material because its different here

[somber sequoia]

same answer, but not all shaders support this

[crude anvil]

This might be one of them because the option isnt there

[somber sequoia]

correct

[ornate stump]

Most built-in shaders don't support custom culling.

[uneven slate]

i think im getting closer now currently the animation loops instantly and infinite (while writing this i remembered to uncheck looptime for the animation) and now it works animation still needs some work but i finally have boxers that toggle 🎉 im just gonna say thank you. I have spent about 18 hours on this for that to work and now the rest should be so much easier

[plain lava]

Any idea how to add animations like this to avatar?

[somber sequoia]

probably in the Action layer: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/playable-layers/#action

[chilly marsh]

Hey guys! I wanna make an asset/toggle for VRChat that is Dozer from the Roblox game "GRACE" The way I want it to work is as a HUD or GUI that I can toggle. He has two stages, eyes close, and eyes open. On the eyes open if you don't crouch or get low enough, I want it to flashbang. I only want it to work in a certain radius or only with friends.
Please help if you can, I am willing to pay for the help!
(the following image is what he looks like. I'll see if I can find a video of the way he works.)
(I also put this in a thread, it was suggested to be put here to)

[heavy zephyr]

You can't really detect if other players are crouching or not from the avatar side so that wouldn't work. Rest is possible

[sharp oasis]

If I have to versions of the same .fbx, one with a slightly modified mesh but identical bones, is there a way I can replace the used fbx in my scene without needing to set everything up again from scratch?

[somber sequoia]

If you didn't unpack your avatar prefab, then just overwrite the .fbx file

if you want two versions, make two files, drag each into the scene separately

use Pumkin's Tools to copy stuff from one to the other

[sharp oasis]

ah punkin's has a converter. cool thanks

[somber sequoia]

no, it has a copier 🙂

[sharp oasis]

that's all I'd need, thanks

I assume it correctly re-asigns the selected bones and stuff in physbone and constaint components?

[glossy isle]

hey so currently, in unity, i cant change the shader or anything about these materials. wtf do i do?

[sharp oasis]

That's the default material that's applied. It likely takes info from blender or wherever it was made.
You need to create a new material and place it on the object. Rightclick on your folder area > Create > Material

[whole sorrel]

you could try exporting ur project and importing it in a new one

(but idk how to fix that)

[stoic summit]

ive got a quite specific question, but im trying to add facial animations without adding animations to the hands. I use index controllers, and i've always disliked the snap animations for hands since i got them. How would i go about this?

[sharp oasis]

So you want to activate them with buttons and not making gestures IRL?

[stoic summit]

as i said im on index controllers, so i have full control over my fingers and what they're doing, and making expressions with them can be not great with the animations for the hands enabled, i removed the animations from the avatar already, i just need to add the facial expressions to poses i make with my fingers

the "snappy" feel of most avatars

[balmy barn]

thats what the animations control, shapekeys

its all just gesturesleft/right = x do stuff

[sharp oasis]

Oh you mean the avatars that auto-pose their fingers as well. That is controlled in the Gesture file. Just remove that section.
Keep the existing facial gestures in your FX layer. Usually there's a Right Hand and Left Hand layer

FX layer handles all the shapekeys and animations, the Gesture layer tends to handle bone movement. Avatars designed for non-index controllers have finger positions in the Gesture layer, but if you're an index user, you can delete those

[chilly marsh]

Ah okay cool, would you be able to help?

[sharp oasis]

One workaround to detect if people are crouching or not, you could make a large invisible collider at around head height and set it to detect player heads. If it detects a head, do one thing, if it detects no head, they have crouched

[heavy zephyr]

I mean the rest is just a flashbang so a screenshader effect with a range. And a condition for friends which you can do by using the built-in IsOnFriendsList bool

[chilly marsh]

yeah that's what I want to do! I just have NO clue how

honestly I can't find any tutorials anywhere, even reddit

[heavy zephyr]

Contacts have a max range of 6m of diameter

[sharp oasis]

youd make a large vrc contact receiver set to Head, then with its boolean output you'd need to FX layer programme whatever effects you want to happen

[heavy zephyr]

Again, the range is hard capped

[sharp oasis]

Could use multiple. Its something that could work, is all.

a large physbone that detects movement could also be an option. Detecting other players is hard. You need to find janky workarounds

[chilly marsh]

if y'all could DM me with how to's that would be great lol

[heavy zephyr]

You'd quickly find yourself using like 9+ receivers for something that will be janky at best

[sharp oasis]

if its an avatar designed only for a game then it doesn't matter too much if its jank

[chilly marsh]

it's more of just for fun

[sharp oasis]

I'm afraid you're not asking for an easy thing. Setting up a game mechanic like this will take time and a lot of knowledge of the weird uses of vrchat avatar features

Its the kind of thing people sell or take comissions for

[balmy barn]

constraints + empty , move it around crazy and whenever it detect something stop there for a few seconds - do stuff sound extremely annoying tho and bounds probably instantly very poor

[heavy zephyr]

It's not difficult per see. Guess you could use a raycast and make it rotate to get a 360 detection method and detect PlayerLocal then attach a receiver to detect heads.

Locally players would be able to see your effect

[chilly marsh]

ohh ok

[chilly marsh]

uh, how much do you think i would have to pay for an asset like this?

[chilly marsh]

i am also very willing to LEARN it, i just cant find any tutorials i can wrap my feeble brain around- or any tutorials i need at all

[heavy zephyr]

If I had motivation to make stuff again I'd make it

[chilly marsh]

DM me when (or if) you have motivation again lol

[sharp oasis]

there's tutorials for regular avatar setup and toggles and animations and all that. But when it comes to very niche things like this, you likely won't find many tutorials

Its lots of random knowledge put into one project instead of just "oh do this"

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, but once you learn how the basic components work, it's all about experimenting in new ways to put them together.

[sharp oasis]

exactly

[heavy zephyr]

Sadly that doesn't happen often, otherwise my shop wouldn't be so empty lmao

[sharp oasis]

https://www.youtube.com/@SippsAvatarBox/playlists
Sipbox has probably one of the best avatar creation tutorial playlists out there if you want to learn

[somber sequoia]

I recommend their basic tutorials all the time

[chilly marsh]

ill save it for when i can take a deep dive then :>

[sharp oasis]

Blender question for the blender enjoyers here:
So I've remade the UV maps of an avatar and have just been given the same avatar again but with its own modifications. Is there a way I can instantly replicate my new UV layout on this new avatar by copying/transfering uv positions or something??

[somber sequoia]

nope, not really

[sharp oasis]

big sadge

But assumed that was the case

So there's no equivalent to stuff like Transfer Mesh Data but for UV layout?

[somber sequoia]

I haven't seen anything really work, and I have a few non-free UV map plugins. I wonder how hard that'd be to create though

probably it'd have to assume the mesh is identical, in terms of vertex counts anyway

maybe I'll take a glance a Blender's API tonight

[sharp oasis]

it unfortunately isnt so likely would be impossible. I remade the UV maps on one avi, and now have been given a decimated version of the same one to get it into poor or better. So of course it looks the same but the polis are not

oh well

[somber sequoia]

ah yeah, without the mesh identical I'm not sure what you'd do to get the UV maps close, guess the nearest vertex?

So, this would be kinda ugly, but if you mark all the seams in the same places such that when you unwrap it, the islands come out mostly shaped right, you could export a simple map texture, then use that as your background to align the islands on the new mesh. Probably wouldn't be very accurate but you could get it kinda close enough for basic textures

I will admit to way more than once editing two meshes, marking one's UV vertices pinned, and manually snapping each and every vertex in the other one onto the proper pinned vertex.

if you value your sanity I don't recommend this path, but sometimes we have to do annoying tedious things 🙂

[raw saddle]

You can copy a UV map from one mesh to another mesh provided both meshes have the same geometry/vertex order.
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/2.82/modeling/meshes/editing/uv/workflows/layout.html

[sharp oasis]

considering I've already spent two days manually aligning a few hundred triangles of hair manually, I don't want to do it again

[somber sequoia]

Ohh right that is in there

now I vaguely remember trying it and not having any luck 'cause yeah, not the same geometry.

[sharp oasis]

Yeah left is way different to right

it likely won't work

[stuck oxide]

how do you make poiyomi not look pitch black and darker worlds?

[night ember]

change the min lighting value

[stuck oxide]

how do you do that

[night ember]

under the lighting settings

[somber sequoia]

https://www.poiyomi.com/shading/light-data#min-brightness

[stuck oxide]

what min lihting would you recommend?

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

[stuck oxide]

i dont wanna make it too bight

bright

[night ember]

its your model

[somber sequoia]

you don't need much, I put this on a slider and rarely go above like 5%

[stuck oxide]

🥹

can u use vrcfury to make the slider

ive never really used poi

[somber sequoia]

dunno, I don't use Fury.

[stuck oxide]

fair

[somber sequoia]

Which shader doesn't matter, it's the same process for any shader property

[chilly marsh]

does anyone know anybody that's like super trustworthy that I can commission this from?

[somber sequoia]

go to the VRC Traders discord, you'll just find scammers here. Link is in #1204490664637890580 somewhere

[chilly marsh]

okay

[wicked patio]

Does anyone know how to upload avatars?

[somber sequoia]

yes, lots of us do.

[wicked patio]

I need help uploading an avatar

[somber sequoia]

This is the place.

[wicked patio]

I got an avatar and I don’t know how to upload it

I’ve never uploaded one

[somber sequoia]

start here: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/

[wicked patio]

I’ve read this stuff and watched videos but it’s still confusing

[somber sequoia]

Also the link in this message leads to decent video tutorials: #avatar-help message

okay well then you'll have to explain what you have done and where you are stuck, we don't know what to tell you otherwise.

[wicked patio]

I haven’t even started everything is so complicated

[somber sequoia]

not much I can suggest then.

[wicked patio]

I’m trying to find someone who can upload the avatar

[chilly marsh]

just gotta hope someone responds :(

[somber sequoia]

Not here, try the vrc traders discord, but sharing your account credentials is risky.

[wicked patio]

I used to know people who would help me do it, but I don’t know them anymore

[somber sequoia]

I always suggest learning to do it yourself.

[restive loom]

Dose any one know how to add multiple eyes on an avi I’ve been seeing it a lot and I wanna try to do it

[barren loom]

I heard that there's hand packs, and that people generally just use different hands than the models come with, then attach them in blender?
Where do I find that?

[somber sequoia]

Use one bone per eye, put rotation constraints on the new ones so they copy rotation from the standard ones, have VRChat run those

[willow cloud]

I require some help

Lol

Trying to upload an avatar rn

[somber sequoia]

this is the place

[willow cloud]

Ayyy

Alright I'm trying to import an avatar, I have the files but don't know how to bring it into my project

[somber sequoia]

drag and drop usually

[willow cloud]

Into where?

[somber sequoia]

bottom part that says "project". You could also just put the files in there via other means such as a file explorer. doesn't really matter.

[willow cloud]

New project in this window?

Or?

Do I extract or not first

The avatar files

[somber sequoia]

what kind of package do you have? If it's a zipfile, yes, extract

not sure what "new project in this window" means.

[willow cloud]

Yep

It's a zipfile

Ok

[willow cloud]

You saw bottom part that says project

Idk what that means in this context

[willow cloud]

This one?

Or somewhere else

[somber sequoia]

Yes - the bottom section is the project window.

[willow cloud]

So in assests then

[somber sequoia]

you can see the title of it says project

Yes, ideally

[willow cloud]

Alr

Then?

[somber sequoia]

then you watch a tutorial, I'm not going to be able to walk you through each step.

[willow cloud]

Ok

[somber sequoia]

Feel free to ask specific questions here if you get stuck

[willow cloud]

Already am

Problem is that all the videos are going about it way differently

So I have the rigs but can't do much with that

In the video's they import the files and poof, it's all there and ready to go

Now I'm stuck with the files in my project but nothing is loading

The file is a "blend"

[somber sequoia]

really depends on what you got - if there's a scene file (icon is the unity logo), maybe you can double-click that and it'll open and have a ready-to-go avatar.

that's a blender file

is that all you have?

[willow cloud]

Yep

That's what got extracted at least

Oh it says I need blender now

[somber sequoia]

Yeah - you need blender to deal with that. Unity can by itself if you have Blender installed, but its best to import it there, then export from Blender as a .fbx

Sounds like you're starting on hard mode here.

[willow cloud]

Is it possible to get someone else to do it for me and I can clone the result?

[somber sequoia]

Sure, you could commission someone to build all of this for you. Head over to the VRC Traders discord for that.

[willow cloud]

For all the people sending me friend requests

I already found someone to help

[somber sequoia]

oh no - don't pay anyone who randomy friends you from here

[willow cloud]

I got like 20 requests man

[willow cloud]

Nah it wasn't someone random

Someone that was friends with the guy who made the model to begin with

[somber sequoia]

okay

[willow cloud]

They are doing it for free which is nice

And showing me how to do it with some other professional modelers

[lilac musk]

Don't trust people on the internet. Scammers are everywhere

[sinful obsidian]

i've got physbones set up and this was working fine awhile ago but for some reason it no longer seems to detect when the physbone is being grabbed

i have some animations dependent on "_IsGrabbed" but it doesn't seem to be seen anymore

allow grabbing is enabled

it's been a couple months since i've worked on this avatar, i know it was working before but animations weren't doing exactly what i wanted so i changed something and i don't remember what but the grabbing stopped working altogether

[last acorn]

I think i'm going crazy with unity and blender.

[junior crag]

how do i get it out of this state

the anim player is off

[sinful obsidian]

click the preview button

[junior crag]

now what

[sinful obsidian]

ig click it again? if it's light grey it's enabled

preview usually is what poses it like that

[last acorn]

When I go into play mode, it swaps my head mesh with my body mesh?? How do i fix this?

[junior crag]

i tried each prt none of them moved it for some reason

[somber sequoia]

Find the animation doing that and change it

[somber sequoia]

if it's really stuck and this won't reset it, Pumkin's Tools has a feature for this

[last acorn]

There shouldn't be one tho...i'm so confused.

[somber sequoia]

your animators become active in play mode, so it's got to be there or on some prefab with an animator

[last acorn]

I exported the FBX into blender to make some changes. I reimported it into unity, and the material slots aren't matching up correctly. I'm new to this but i think that is the issue. How do i get htem to match up in blender? they look in order to me...i'm very confused.

[somber sequoia]

ohhh

Yeah so that's a tricky issue. You can re-order them in Blender, but if you have multiple objects you merge before export like I do, it's more of doing that merging in the right order

[last acorn]

yeah it has 6 meshes making up the body, and idk how to get them to be in order i guess

[somber sequoia]

Join them in order

it's what I do

[last acorn]

so start with face and then just keep ctrl clicking the next and hit ctrl J?

[somber sequoia]

Whichever order you need, yep

I don't have blender open so this is going on memory, but I usually select the lowest in the list, then the next, all the way up to the one with the top, then join.

[last acorn]

so go backwards

[somber sequoia]

(I usually only have 1-2 materials anyway)

I believe so

[last acorn]

and do them 1 by 1

[somber sequoia]

nah, you can select select select then join

whichever works for you

I will say I haven't tried re-ordering recently, I started doing this in Blender 3.x and have been since, didn't think to see if you can just re-order them now

[last acorn]

ill give ita whirl i guess

[somber sequoia]

works for me

[sinful obsidian]

by default, Allow Grabbing is off
enable Allow Grabbing via toggle
if armL_IsGrabbed becomes True, should disable a position constraint and enable an audio source for a moment for a sound effect
when in game and i grab the arm, no sound effect plays and the constraint seems to stay enabled
testing in unity with the GestureManager, using the debug tab i can set armL_IsGrabbed to True and the sound effect plays and pos constraint is disabled, so i think the game just isn't detecting the grab

[somber sequoia]

Physbone settings can't be changed at runtime without disabling the component first

if that's what you mean by "enable allow grabbing via toggle"

[sinful obsidian]

i've got an animation set up that sets it to on

it was working before

[somber sequoia]

that would surprise me

[last acorn]

do i need to do the transforms thing everytime before i export?

[somber sequoia]

transforms?

[last acorn]

apply all transforms

[somber sequoia]

only if you made some transforms and haven't applied them

[last acorn]

reording the material shouldn't matter then?

[somber sequoia]

that's not a transform

transforms are moving or rotating or scaling objects

[sinful obsidian]

will this work then?

[last acorn]

alirhgt i did them all in reverse order 1 by1

[somber sequoia]

did you just move that keyframe? no that shouldn't make any real difference

[sinful obsidian]

moved the keyframe and at the start i keyed the physbone being disabled and at the end it's being reenabled

it just occurred to me that that specifically might cause issues since it's supposed to loop but that's besides the point

[somber sequoia]

oh, sorry it's real small here, didn't see that. But yeah I think that should

[sinful obsidian]

gotcha

thanks for the info!

[last acorn]

well, something messed up lol

[somber sequoia]

might not work how you expect though, if that physbone is moved it might get weird disabling it

[last acorn]

my blendshape I added to it is now maxed out.

[somber sequoia]

blender will export the current values of those, you can disable import of those in the unity fbx import settings if you want, or just set the default however you want in unity

[sinful obsidian]

i'm sure i can figure a solution out, just knowing what the obstacle is was all i needed

[last acorn]

current value is on 0

in blender...thats confusing. going to reload my save i guess.

[somber sequoia]

yay, someone who makes backups 🙂

(always make backups)

[sinful obsidian]

i actually don't even need to enable/disable grabbing, i can just enable/disable the physbone itself

saves extra steps

[somber sequoia]

absolutely!

[last acorn]

nope blendshape still maxed out...

what the heck...

[old saddle]

how do you control the parameters of other animator controllers within your avatar?

[somber sequoia]

if they're the ones in the playable layers, then parameters are global

[old saddle]

they are on a seperate animator, not the root of the avatar

[somber sequoia]

you can use VRC Avatar Parameter Driver to set them

that's fine, if that's one of the animators in the playable layers

if not - is this on some other object for some reason?

[old saddle]

yeah, its on a seperate object

[somber sequoia]

that's definitely not ideal - follower or something?

[old saddle]

i know its not ideal and itd be possible to combine the 3 armatures im trying to animate with blender but im not skilled enough to do that

basically its 3 characters that should all appear at once and play different (humanoid rigged) animations and this was the easiest way i could think of do this, and the only thing im missing is getting the animaton to play

so does the parameter driver work on those animators?

[somber sequoia]

dunno, haven't tried it

[old saddle]

it only says ones referenced on the avatar descriptor but ill try it

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's what I'd assume

[last acorn]

yeah i can't get this to work correctly.

[old saddle]

yeah its not playing my animation on the other characters

[stray cave]

hey, a friend of mine tries to upload a avatar, it works but on the website it says "security check pending"
is it normal ?

[somber sequoia]

yep

[stray cave]

really ?

and for the quest version it says "security check failed"

[restive prism]

question cuz i put a earring on my avi and in the mirror its backward do people see it the right way or do i have to do this?

[somber sequoia]

mirrors are backwards, so that makes sense, right?

[distant oracle]

does anyone know how to make the feet switch from heeled position to flat when switching shoes i cant find anything online

[old saddle]

that doesnt look like a mirror though

[restive prism]

so its facing forwars O.O

[stray cave]

blendshapes

[restive prism]

the way i see it in unity is how they see it right?

[old saddle]

yes

[restive prism]

OK! thank you<3

[stray cave]

for the quest version it says "security check failed"

[somber sequoia]

no need to ping me, I saw what you wrote

[stray cave]

sorry, i always forget to deactivate the pinging

[distant oracle]

i did but idk how to make it flip back and forth when i take the heels off to put shoes on

im new lol

[stray cave]

in the animation you made to take the heels off make the blendshape go from 100 to 0

[distant oracle]

ah thank youuu

[stray cave]

anytime ^^

[sinful obsidian]

i've had no luck

is there any reason why the collision shows on the tail but not the limbs?

i have physbones set up in each bicep and thigh so that they can detect grabbing as a sort of button

grab a duplicate thigh, it disables a position constraint keeping it attached to the hip, and that duplicate and its children can then be moved around

the duplicate limbs are copying the rotation of the actual skeleton

i'm not sure why but it just isn't detecting the grab

anyway i wonder if it's got something to do with the collision boxes not being visible

[somber sequoia]

do you only have the tail selected?

generally you'll only see gizmos for selected physbones or children of the selected object

[sinful obsidian]

whole avatar

you can see a collider in the nose

[somber sequoia]

ok - do those have a collision radius set?

[sinful obsidian]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

oh teeny radius, fun with FBX scaling there.

[sinful obsidian]

lol

i know when i first set up the physbones i could see the gizmo

[sour ravine]

erm anyone know how to add vrcfury clothes into a clothes sub toggle?

[somber sequoia]

do you mean the menu item?

[sour ravine]

like i got a clothes sub toggle with nun in it i want to add stuff in it

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what a "sub toggle" is I guess.

[sour ravine]

a toggle leading to other toggles

[somber sequoia]

same answer, unless you're referring to menu items

[sour ravine]

it might be

like if i click dis it leads to weapons

[somber sequoia]

well if you mean menu items, in the thingy in Fury that sets those up, you can put some text before a forward slash and it'll turn that text into a sub-menu item

it should be in the docs for whatever the menu item thing is, I don't really use fury so I forget where that is

[sour ravine]

alr

[somber sequoia]

Yes, this is a sub-menu

or rather, a menu item that leads to a sub-menu.

[spring gyro]

Does some one knows why when I try to put some clothes on my avatar with modular avatar the clothes stays on T pose but the body moves normally?

[sour ravine]

prob not conected to ur avatar idk i js started doin ts

[somber sequoia]

clothes not rigged, or not connected properly. I don't know modular either so not sure how to set it up.

[spring gyro]

When I make it manually it does work I can try using that but sometimes it breaks badly

[sinful obsidian]

hmmm

hmm

if i set the root transform as the shoulder, the bicep has collision again but so does the hand

[somber sequoia]

makes sense

[sinful obsidian]

so does that mean that grabbing the hand will activate armL_IsGrabbed?

[somber sequoia]

you can grab anywhere on whole physbone chain and it'll activate that

[sinful obsidian]

yeah i don't want that

i only want the bicep grabbable

[somber sequoia]

have it ignore the next bone then

but... physbones usually need two bones to do anything

(or the endpoint position value increased)

[sinful obsidian]

the only reason i want it to be a physbone is so it can be grabbed

i don't need sway or stretching or anything

[somber sequoia]

you do realize that this will make the arm floppy and not be controlled by IK, right?

[sinful obsidian]

nah, that's all figured out

[somber sequoia]

k

[somber sequoia]

ah you're doing something fun here

[sinful obsidian]

ArmUpper.L is the actual IK arm skeleton

ARM-L is an empty at the shoulder

[somber sequoia]

yup, totally get it

[sinful obsidian]

sweet

[somber sequoia]

I do something similar for digitgrade legs

[sinful obsidian]

the idea is that upperarm_l can be grabbed and still moves around when i move my arm

but completely detached

and by making it only grabbable at the bicep i'm not grabbing the left arm everytime i try to grab something with my left hand

[somber sequoia]

yeah you'll need one physbone per segment then

[sinful obsidian]

all i want are the biceps and thighs, nothing past the elbow or knee

figured it out

set the ignore transform to the forearm, then move the endpoint position

nvm?

suddenly it didn't?

wait i got it

[somber sequoia]

meow

[sinful obsidian]

uh

i think there's mirror editing on or something

i set the left arm up

looks great

go to do the right arm

it has left arm inputs

change to right arm

check left again

it now has right inputs

yeah i might be an idiot

[somber sequoia]

it happens to the best of us

[sinful obsidian]

forgot i had locked the inspector

[crimson gust]

In short: Disable animation play in edit mode.

I'm modernising a project. I haven't touched unity in over a year, and the project is one overdue for retirement. It predates physbones.

While trying to modernise the models, i was meddling with animations.
I somehow ended up playing one of them unintentionally, and it mangled my avi's. Trying to "undo" didn't fix it and they remained unrecoverably mangled, so i just alt f4 the project, resulting in 2 hours of lost progress. It was easier to alt f4, than to manually fix every bone on the avi.

If there any way to block animation from manipulating any of the models in the scene unless I am in play mode

[neat maple]

Hey how can I get my avatar removed from someone's account who ripped/stole it

[somber sequoia]

oh that kind of idiot. Yes, all the damn time.

[somber sequoia]

support request

[neat maple]

I tried reporting and the AI just autodeclines it

[crimson gust]

mfw ai

[somber sequoia]

I wasn't aware they used AI for that, interesting.

[neat maple]

Well it auto responded in like 3 seconds

[steel sable]

Can someone help with making an avatar I'm a beginner and I already have the fbx files

[somber sequoia]

that's what this channel is for

[steel sable]

I mean help like i'll share my screen on call type of help because i have no clue what I'm doing

[somber sequoia]

ah I'm not sure who does that

[steel sable]

Oh ok

[sour ravine]

like do u have the model u want?

[steel sable]

Yeah

[sour ravine]

js drag the unity file into unity then

[crimson gust]

but what about my help :c

[somber sequoia]

what about it?

if you play an animation, it'll play

otherwise no, there's no "block"

[steel sable]

I would but the files are kinda all over the place and i don't know where some things go

[somber sequoia]

I'd be curious to see what you mean by "mangled" though

[sour ravine]

wdym all over the place?

also anyone know how to connect clothes to the actual model

[crimson gust]

i just want to block it from manipulating my avi's when not in play mode

[lilac musk]

Merge them in blender

[somber sequoia]

don't play an animation then, there really isn't a thing for this.

[sour ravine]

is there any other way😭😭

[sour ravine]

aye twin ngl

good luck💔

[somber sequoia]

.dae files aren't going to be of much use

[lilac musk]

Don't like blender or something?

[sour ravine]

i dont understand blender TwT

[somber sequoia]

Where did you get this mess?

[lilac musk]

Just start learning. It's not that hard, just seem intimidating at first for most. You'll get used to it

[sour ravine]

idk where to start

like the clothes fit the character but when i actually test it its stuck in a t pose

[lilac musk]

Look up some blender basics tutorials and go from there

[somber sequoia]

they're either not rigged properly or you didn't use something to attach them to the avatar properly

[steel sable]

I got it from this model pack that provides the ripped models and textures from a game

[somber sequoia]

aha. Well you're in for a LOT of work then, if it's like this. I'd suggest importing it all into blender and sorting it out there.

if that's not enough info to go on, I'd suggest something that's more... finished.

[sour ravine]

so how do i fix that exactly

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what you have so there's no way I could provide anything remotely like "exactly"

[sour ravine]

wdym

[somber sequoia]

Also I'd do this in Blender 🙂

[sour ravine]

ok

[somber sequoia]

What I mean is you said "clothes" but that's vague - what is it? a model file? is it rigged already? for this avatar or for some other one?

[steel sable]

Any tips and tricks for something like that?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, I'd import it into blender and then see what you've got.

A thing a lot of people coming in here don't realize is that we don't have your project, so we have no idea what you have unless you tell us in detail, and often without actually having the files and inspecting it, there's not a lot we can really tell you about it.

from here it looks like you have a bunch of files. What are they? No clue.

Words like "clothing" mean nothing alone.

[sinful obsidian]

such is life lol

so if i want a physbone that is being grabbed to stay with the hand as it moves, that probably won't work if the root bone is the one being grabbed right?

i figured out how to see the physbones in game and i noticed that the endpoint position meant the collisions didn't move with the bones

that isn't such a big deal

they were grabbable but just spun around wildly when grabbed

[uneven whale]

Hello. I'm having a problem: when I re-enter the world, one of my avatar's clothing items disappears. How can I prevent it from disappearing? My avatar's switches are not implemented using vrcfury, but rather using regular controllers. Please don't recommend using vrcfury, as I want to learn how to fix this using regular controllers.

[sinful obsidian]

am i able to set physbones up so the root bone deforms but all its children do not?

the root stretches however far when pulled but the children keep a static length

[lilac musk]

Sounds like the parameter isn't set to save

[uneven whale]

Can you please tell me where this is?

[lilac musk]

The parameter on your perimeter list will have a checkbox for save.

[uneven whale]

Okay, thanks!

[elder lichen]

anyone here got major knowledge of the ins and outs of marshmallow PB 2.0? docs are wayy too vague and poorly written, prob a consequence of them being originally in japanese.

[gaunt knoll]

thats why they give you English docs

[ornate stump]

What problem you're having with it?

[elder lichen]

yeah but they were still translated to english

poorly

[elder lichen]

cant figure out the colliders, when the physbone colliders are too large the interference between them dont work, but work when theyre small, but when theyre small hands and colliders clip through cus now the collider is too small, they squeeze too early, etc

also got issues of when pushing together, they go up/under eachother and past

[ornate stump]

It's just fine-tuning the collider size until it works correctly then.

[elder lichen]

which ive been doing forrr

approx 5 and a half hours

theres too many combinations of different sliders that i cant understand what half of them do

the docs explain what each of them do but too short/vague to make any tweaks and tunes viable.

[terse crane]

Random question, I bought a face blendshape for Milltina but it did not have the usual notepad or images that show me the blendshapes to adjust. I only got an animation file and no clue how to add that

[ornate stump]

Probably you have to add the animation clip to a new layer in FX layer.

[terse crane]

Ahh, okay. Thanks

Nah, been a while since I touched animations I just realized. All I did was add a new Layers and dragged the animation clip in there but nothing

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the unity screen when you put that animation clip in?

[slim rivet]

Tried uploading without any playable layers and still showed up as 11

My avatar only has 8 materials but shows up as 11 in-game

Anyone have some ideas?

[pine valley]

you must have another renderer on your avatar

note that vrchat is counting how many material slots you have – it doesn't care about material slots

you can find all renderers on your avatar by searching for t:renderer in the hierarchy window

[slim rivet]

I only have Body

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the search result to confirm?

[slim rivet]

(I have a lot of avatars in the same scene)

[ornate stump]

Does the sdk also say you have 8 material slot?

[slim rivet]

Yep

Custom keywords is 11 I just noticed

[ornate stump]

Keywords is on the shader part, not relate to material slot count.

[slim rivet]

Yeah

[ornate stump]

So when in game, does the perf reports more renderer count like mesh renderer, skinned mesh renderer, or particle ,system and so on?

[slim rivet]

Let me double check

[ornate stump]

Can you check material slots in skinned mesh renderer component here?

[slim rivet]

Ohhh

I guess I can just remove the empty ones?

[ornate stump]

I'm guessing you can't revert the material slot. Then you have to put Hat to element 7 and delete 8 and below.

[slim rivet]

Yup, it works now

Thanks a lot!

[alpine ingot]

I got two questions at once. When i use a gesture, can i make it replace a material for that time? What i wanna do is change the eyes of my model for when i do a gesture. .. and second question is how i can replace that Rock n Roll gesture with something else?

[ornate stump]

1. Yes.
2. Customize hand layer for gesture layer to replace the animation.

[alpine ingot]

2. I get that with the arrows and such, but where can i do that so a different animation plays?.. and if i need to do one of those from scratch where do i even do that?

[ornate stump]

You could take existing "proxy_" animation and edit from there.

Duplicate the proxy file and rename to remove proxy prefix.

[alpine ingot]

Where can i find those?.. or what are they called so i can search my project for it

[ornate stump]

In the sample in VRChat avatar sdk folder. In the Packages folder.

[alpine ingot]

I assume the Avatar sdk?

[ornate stump]

I have said that in the previous message.

[alpine ingot]

So i´m just blind

gotcha

[alpine ingot]

this here?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[alpine ingot]

So if i edit that, but do the rock n roll gesture my model will display the one i created, yes?

[ornate stump]

Duplicate the proxy file and rename to remove proxy prefix. Edit the animation, and put it in the gesture layer.

[alpine ingot]

Ok i may not know how this exactly works then. How does unity know then that the hands are supposed to display that then? Because i wanna put a animation into the motion section for my gestures

[ornate stump]

Animation is targeting specific body part, there are multiple animation in gesture layer, each animation is selected via transition conditioned with Gesture parameter, Gesture parameter is set via vrc avatar system.

[alpine ingot]

I tried to look through, but hm.. so which part of this tells the model that its supposed to do that when specific gestures are made with the controller. Is it somewhere completely different and not on this screen or.. how does this work?

The arrows are the transition parameter, yes? Inside those arrows are these values, i assume the values then equal to what input is needed to play the animation, yes?

[ornate stump]

Arrows are Transition. And parameters are being used in the transition Condition.

Transition is just for switching what animation to play for that layer.

[alpine ingot]

So i need to edit it in the vrc avatar system then to play a different animation for the gesture?..

[ornate stump]

No. You have to just replace animation in Motion field.

[alpine ingot]

So i do a animation for both the hands and the expression then, all in one and put it into the motion field?

[ornate stump]

Animate both hand in animation clip yes. But what do you mean all in one?

[alpine ingot]

in the same animation clip, thats what i meant

so.. if i do that it should display a different hand gesture than the rock n roll?

it does not get overwritten or anything by the avatar system?

[ornate stump]

Of course that's what I've been telling.

[alpine ingot]

just making sure so i dont come back and ask the exact same thing

thx

[ornate stump]

If you actually take a look in the animation you're trying to edit, it has only animation for the hands. So it isn't going to do something else other than just controlling hands.

[ornate stump]

And you have to also understand different between each playable layer. If you're doing hand animation, then that's gesture layer, and of you did pretty much everything else that isn't humanoid bone, then that's for FX layer.

for more info read here https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/playable-layers

[alpine ingot]

now i´m confused again. I make a new animation with the hand gesture i desire and the face expression i want, put it into the motion section and it should work that way, right?

[ornate stump]

If you want to animate both hand and face, you have to do 2 animation clips for each Gesture layer and FX layer.

[alpine ingot]

wait

this is the FX layer, right?

with all this

[ornate stump]

Of course yes.

[alpine ingot]

And Left hand and right hand are the gesture layers?

[ornate stump]

No. It's just face animation layer.

They're being named bacause it's controlled by gesture parameter.

[alpine ingot]

Then where do i find Gesture Layers?

or is that where i got that other animation from?

[ornate stump]

Gesture layer is a part of Playable Layers that you see in avatar descriptor, Just right beside the FX layer.

[alpine ingot]

I see

okay so, but instead of doing 2 animations for each. cant i just edit this animation and replace the proxy animation then?.. or does that not work?

[ornate stump]

If you want to replace hand animation then you have to also duplicate the HandsLayer from the sample folder and put it as Gesture layer and replace the animation.

[alpine ingot]

So i cant just replace the animation?

without duplicating the layer

[ornate stump]

There is no layer to replace to begin with if it's a default controller for it.

[alpine ingot]

But if there is no default, then how does it even do the hand gestures without one to begin with? Thats confusing me

[ornate stump]

Because that's how default works.

[alpine ingot]

But it needs to pull the animations from somewhere then, right? Why cant i just edit that animation where its pulling from which it deems as the default?.. or is that simpy not possible the way i imagine it?

[ornate stump]

Because default controller has every default animations already implemented. The default is the same as HandsLayer I have been tellilng you to copy and edit it.

[alpine ingot]

huh-.. but i already copied the hands layer. this here

or do you mean another one?

[ornate stump]

Do you want to do face animation or hand animation?

[alpine ingot]

I use this for my expressions by doing a animation and putting them into the Motion tab for each respective gesture

i currently want to do hand animation

to replace the rock n roll

[ornate stump]

Then you have to copy another one and use it for Gesture layer.

[alpine ingot]

So.. i copied the hands layer from the Avatar sdk. Then put it into the descriptor

that correct?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[alpine ingot]

Ok, so now i do a animation for the hands only and put it into the motion section for Rock n Roll gesture.. which then will replace it. Left and right respectively

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[alpine ingot]

Ok good, now i feel like i 100% understood it all. I feel i was quite exhausting from asking all this, sorry

[unique breach]

Hellloooo so I’ve never messed with unity or anything to upload avatars, anyway I have files for an avatar I wanted to upload and use but I have NO idea on what I’m doing.

Like I’m using VRChat SDK and i can’t upload bc I have like 7 alerts and I don’t understand any of it

[somber sequoia]

paste the first 1-3 alerts in here - see the first pinned message for instructions on how to do so

[alpine ingot]

So it seems like i´m trying to do this wrong. When i press record on the animation tab and move the fingers around the movement isnt getting recorded

[somber sequoia]

You cannot directly move or rotate the finger bones, if that's what you're trying to do.

[alpine ingot]

Then what do i do?

[somber sequoia]

you have to use the muscle properties in the animator instead. I'm not sure where to find a useful link to point out where it is

but in the animator if you click 'add property' and scroll up to animator you can find those in there somewhere

(I don't have Unity open here)

basically humanoid bones are controlled by IK, you have to animate them differently than just any random non-humanoid bone.

[alpine ingot]

wha

[somber sequoia]

under "animator"

[alpine ingot]

there is a lot of things

[somber sequoia]

yes

you'll find the hand/fingers

[alpine ingot]

oh

[somber sequoia]

Yes, getting close

[ornate stump]

That's also where I have told you to duplicate the proxy animation because those already have properties prepopulated.

[alpine ingot]

yeah that makes sense

[balmy barn]

can just edit the values on finger/ect , like this is a common one people want

[somber sequoia]

I happen to have done exactly that one as well!

(left fist + right rock n' roll = right middle finger)

[alpine ingot]

I´m just trying to do this gesture

should be simple enough

oooooh

so i use all this then?

[somber sequoia]

there you go

[alpine ingot]

I must sound so stupid to people that know this in a instant

[somber sequoia]

none of us knew this in an instant, we all learned it just like you are

[ornate stump]

Trial and error, and remember.

[alpine ingot]

While we are at it.. how do i make the animation.. like.. bound to the model? Because i can only click record when i create a new animation clip while having the avi selected

it deselects in the animation tab when i click on the model

and also isnt in the list

[somber sequoia]

That means you don't have that animation in the avatar's active animation controller

that is, the one in the Animator component on the avatar root

[alpine ingot]

this?

[somber sequoia]

that

That Controller slot should have the one you're working on

whatever's in there is only used in the editor.

[alpine ingot]

so i can have whatever in there but its not used for the avatar in vr chat itself? Its just for editing in unity

[somber sequoia]

Correct

[alpine ingot]

Well, i dont know which controller the animation belongs to

[somber sequoia]

which one do you want it to be in? Put it in there.

[alpine ingot]

Do i just drag it in?

[somber sequoia]

alternatively, you could put it in any one or even just a throwaway

you drag it into the slot for the clip that Renfrew was showing earlier

[alpine ingot]

So in the Left and Right hand layers for the motion section of Rock n Roll

[somber sequoia]

if that's where you want it.

[alpine ingot]

I want to replace the rocknroll animation for the hands

so if that is what it does, then yes

[somber sequoia]

without seeing your exact setup I'll just go with "sounds right"

[somber sequoia]

I'm still not going to tell you exactly - it's your avatar, put it where you want it 🙂

[alpine ingot]

I take that as a it is correct then for what my goal is

So.. this does not look like rocknroll hands... is something wrong?

i pressed on record

and then it did that

I´m stupid it seems, because it had defaulted to a different animation when i did that

[somber sequoia]

ahh

[alpine ingot]

how do i even animate this though?

do i just change the numbers?

[somber sequoia]

yeah. You also can click-and-hold near the number value and drag the mouse around and the values will change

[alpine ingot]

that seems

tedious

[somber sequoia]

sure is

[alpine ingot]

confused about this though, when i click and hold it just selects the number

nvm

i gotta do it on the edge

[somber sequoia]

right

I don't have Unity open so I wasn't quite sure I remembered where to click

[minor granite]

What should I do if I was wrongfully banned and my appeal got rejected?

[somber sequoia]

This isn't the right channel, and VRChat staff don't monitor it.

[minor granite]

The system informed me that the file had been modified, but I did not do so.

[orchid blade]

I tried setting up 2d visemes using VRCFury. I wanted to do it as a material swap so that it’ll be easier and I put all my materials in the VRCFury advanced visemes box but I don’t know if it’s normal that I have to be practically yelling into the mic for them to work otherwise it just stays as my base silent viseme, is this normal? Is there any way to fix it or will I be better off just doing it manually?

I feel like they also move through each other too quickly for my liking

If anyone could please give me some tips or fix for this I would really really appreciate it😭

[olive pelican]

I'm guessing you're using some mechanism inside VRCF to make the animato,r and you didn't build it yourself? (I'm not saying this is bad, just checking)

What is likely happening is that your "Voice" prarameter limit is set too high, or material swap is too slow to work for that use case.

When I do 2D visemes, I tend to trigger them at voice > 0.1 for vowels, and >0.04 ish for consonants.

It could also be something about the way the animator is set up (transition time, exit time, animation length or proeprties)

[pine valley]

I believe that Advanced Visemes does do some blending

which would make it hard for a material swap to be noticed

[rapid aspen]

I'm trying to do face tracking on desktop with VRCft and I'm doing everything right that it says. I do not know what else to do or how to fix it. (using an iphone 13 btw to try it)

[mortal tangle]

The play button words ain’t showing up

“Play mode”

[ornate stump]

You're locking the Inspector panel.

[pallid drift]

did you lock your inspector?

o

he got to it first

fast fingers

[mortal tangle]

LOL

[mortal tangle]

How do I unlock it

[pallid drift]

top right

lock icon

[mortal tangle]

Ouuu

[pallid drift]

hahah

who fast now

[ornate stump]

Ok keep doing it.

[mortal tangle]

it didnt do anything

[pallid drift]

have you checked if your laptop is commiting suicide and laggging like crazy?

[mortal tangle]

lol it lags sometimes but I’m used too it cause it’s expected

Intel core i7

[balmy barn]

theres only like 70 different versions of that cpu (probably more) , you can try unity layout reset - layout select something try again

[mortal tangle]

hm

well that avi is a fbx soo

another issue

[ornate stump]

What issue?

[somber sequoia]

Seems pretty clear if you read the message.

[mortal tangle]

I did

But what I’m misunderstanding is that it says it’s deprecated and won’t do anything but it says it’s applied

[somber sequoia]

it says that component is deprecated, but that the parameter compressor feature is auto-applied.

[mortal tangle]

Yea

Idk why It’s deprecated

[somber sequoia]

Probably the Fury changelog will explain that

this reminds me to go see if I can turn off that feature, I don't want that ever running.

[mortal tangle]

lol

What’s WD

[somber sequoia]

write defaults

[somber sequoia]

figures, the docs don't mention the automatic parameter compressor

[somber sequoia]

what about the sleeves is wrong?

[arctic dirge]

in the first image it isn't see through ish the long sleeves work fine but when switching to short sleeves it defaults to original none see through.

it starts out see through ish then part way up where it's lighter i see it trying to default it's weird

it's best seen on the selfie mirror i think..

[still shuttle]

avatar not entering bike pose while trying to animate and wont let me animate stuff

[verbal gate]

An avatar I'm trying to upload has two errors/warnings. One being a missing prefab or script which is easily fixed but another warning that stops me from uploading is "Cyclic dependency found for component VRCPhysBone on '[Toggleable prop]'..." and I'm not sure what to do in regards to it.

Please reply ping

[torn remnant]

what do i change on a vrc phys bone script to make it floppy like a dogs tail and not stiff strait outeards

[somber sequoia]

can you show the component?

[somber sequoia]

likely you have a physbone that refers to itself somehow, in the collider section maybe? Or it's using a collider that's located somewhere on its chain?

[verbal gate]

I'm not sure how to fix it though

[torn remnant]

Its floppy when i move but i wish it wasn’t straight

[somber sequoia]

You'll have to go look for the conditions I described

[torn remnant]

But floppy side to side

[somber sequoia]

From the parts I can see, this looks reasonable

[torn remnant]

? Wdym

[somber sequoia]

I mean I don't see anything weird looking in the image you shared.

how many bones is that tail?

[still shuttle]

gravity

[torn remnant]

Do you see how it’s pointing strait i want it fall

[torn remnant]

Thats it

[still shuttle]

gravity

yeah

[torn remnant]

Thanks

[verbal gate]

Cool I'll get back to you later

[still shuttle]

you can adjust it in play mode and move it til you get somethin you like, then copy the component and paste it once out of play mode

[torn remnant]

Play mode?

I dont need to upload 100x to test?!?

[still shuttle]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

nope!

[still shuttle]

just use play mode :D

[torn remnant]

…

[somber sequoia]

use Gesture Manager or AV3 Emulator, click play, then grab the model (in scene view) and shake it around and you'll see the physbones move

[torn remnant]

…. Thanks that would have been helpful 100 uploads ago lol

[junior crag]

this thing?

[somber sequoia]

Yes

[junior crag]

which tool is it

[somber sequoia]

I don't recall, you'll have to read the docs or try it out. I haven't used this in forever

[junior crag]

it says use force tpose but its not in the package at all

how do i use these anyways

[worn kiln]

Check manual https://github.com/rurre/PumkinsAvatarTools

[junior crag]

o

thanks

i cannot find the tpose in the pose tools

[gaunt knoll]

its in there

[junior crag]

where

please

[somber sequoia]

what's in "examples/presets"?

[junior crag]

its

[somber sequoia]

oh interesting

[junior crag]

im cooked arent i

[gaunt knoll]

if you read the docs it says where it is

[junior crag]

i think thats an outdated img

just maybe

[gaunt knoll]

its still there

it hasnt changed

[somber sequoia]

that one has a newer version than yours does

look at the upper left

[junior crag]

yeah

[gaunt knoll]

still hasnt changed your in pose editor not tools

[junior crag]

found it

why wouldnt the t-POSE be in pose tools?

that feels wrong

thanks

[mortal tangle]

Recroom in VRC?

[gaunt knoll]

now we need paint ball and i never have to think of that dumb game ever again

[mortal tangle]

Lplll

[torn remnant]

Yea i love it its my home map Rec Room Dorm by drunkey kong

[leaden wagon]

UWUW

suck me harder

Crack me daddy

[severe crown]

gen question if poiyomi doesnt work in vcc what do we do when trya upload a avatar

[somber sequoia]

if you already have it installed, that's fine

otherwise you can get it in the free section on their discord

[severe crown]

telling me to unreach the server when i try adding it to vcc

my internet etc is fine

[sonic halo]

hello, i'm new to this avatar creation and i have no idea on how to remove the feet so the boots look like they actually fit?

[somber sequoia]

yes, the service vcc is looking for is currently unavailable

[somber sequoia]

unless they are a separate object, the answer is to remodel in blender or similar

[severe crown]

how would i add the shader still into my project?

[somber sequoia]

instructions are available on their website or I think in the discord

(I believe it's just a .unitypackage)

[severe crown]

is it safe to join the server?

[somber sequoia]

I'm in it

[clear reef]

Hello! Returning avatar maker and I remember NOTHING!! I need help. This ring is correctly parented to the bone in blender and moves with the finger in unity, but when it is tested in VRC, the ring appears a meter to the left of the finger but DOES move with the hand.
This avatar also has glasses that were parented in blender and are correctly positioned when tested. Am I missing a step?

[somber sequoia]

the ring is parented to the bone or weight painted to the bone?

[severe crown]

i cant find it

[somber sequoia]

poiyomi.org

[clear reef]

It is parented to the bone.

[somber sequoia]

oh weird, not how I'd do that.

[clear reef]

You'd weight paint it?

[somber sequoia]

yeah and just join it to the body mesh

I don't see the need for that to be an independent object.

[clear reef]

Is this an adequate method if I were intending to create a way to toggle it off?

[somber sequoia]

sure, there are a few ways to do that, I prefer UV tile discarding, but a shrinking shape key would work great here too

[clear reef]

Do you have the time to walk me through that?

[somber sequoia]

nope, but there are lots of tutorials for the shape key method. for UV tile discarding, there's a good primer on Poiyomi's docs site

[mortal tangle]

Oooooo

[clear reef]

Much appreciated.

[mortal tangle]

I was lucky enough too have a friend who gave me poi pro

And poi is free im sure

[severe crown]

didnt work :<

[chilly solar]

i have an idle ear animation on my avi and i want to add a headpat contact where the ears go down and eyes close. the eyes work, but the ears dont move. i assume thats because i cant have them controlled by 2 animations at once. whats a good work around?

[somber sequoia]

Poiyomi Pro doesn't get you a whole lot extra, most people don't need it.

[somber sequoia]

really no idea what you're doing here or what problem there is - the discord server should be linked on that website.

[severe crown]

i got a error

[somber sequoia]

er

I typo'd didn't I. poiyomi.com

sorry about that.

mostly I figured you'd have just googled for it, but here we are

[severe crown]

all good

[severe crown]

i have been just found it on booth

[somber sequoia]

okay, I have no idea where they've posted it

[junior crag]

how would i make it so the particle system starts to play

[somber sequoia]

disable the game object by default, enable it to play

(with the auto start setting on, it's in there somewhere)

[junior crag]

so this but do auto start rite?

[somber sequoia]

if that's the particle system game object, sure

[junior crag]

would play on awake be correct?

[somber sequoia]

that's it

[junior crag]

k

[somber sequoia]

I don't have unity open, wasn't sure the actual wording

[junior crag]

yeah thanks

i might try to make the particle itself look good

https://tenor.com/view/matthias-matthias-middle-matthias-finger-middle-finger-middle-brother-gif-8763990705968469872

im trying to recreate this

oh great

[somber sequoia]

no embeds

[junior crag]

yup

just

great

you can still click on it

[severe crown]

is it safe to add poiyomi vcc in unity project?

[somber sequoia]

again, details are on their discord

[mortal tangle]

….

@vernal dagger

[mortal tangle]

It’s a respiratory

Add it too the VCC

And yes

Its safe

How do I fix this ?

[somber sequoia]

what "this" exactly?

[mortal tangle]

I can’t see my avi

Tryna scroll up too see if

[somber sequoia]

find it in the hierarchy and double-click, the Scene view should center on it

[mortal tangle]

Ah ok

Tyy

[zealous pine]

Hey so my avatar on quest has barely anything on it and all the textures are not great and its still too big file size for quest even though I see multiple people have the same base with way more on the quest model. Can anybody help me?

[marsh pier]

hey uh My avatar is stuck in the bike pose- is there anyway i can fix it?

[somber sequoia]

pumkin's tools

[marsh pier]

ok i installed it but im a bit confused-

oh and thanks

[somber sequoia]

I'm sorry, I don't use it, but the manual should explain it. Also it was discussed in here roughly 3 hours ago, including images

[marsh pier]

fixxed tysm

[somber sequoia]

excellent

[chilly solar]

help :<

[round hearth]

ok so maybe someone here can help me? i use a AMD ryzen 5500 XT graphics card and a AMD Ryzen 3600 series Processor and i have 6terabyte of storeage devoted to VRchat but i cant load avatars properly like they appear as error robots and i cant leave my home world, or switch between my 30ish avatars i have. someone please help me :-;

[somber sequoia]

this channel is for avatar creation, you probably won't find help on that here.

[round hearth]

i see shit i dont really see a good support channel for this type of thing

[somber sequoia]

#1138891887374237706 comes to mind

[round hearth]

i dont understand all that their is too many subchannels i dont understand it all

[somber sequoia]

okay

[left gull]

you just gotta click the channel and create your own post, all those channels are just seperate chats for people's own issues

you could also use the search function in it to see if anyone else is having load issues but prolly just easier to make your own post for something that specific

[round hearth]

i tried the search but it didnt seem anyone had a similar issue so i maide one

[bleak basin]

anyone know what this issue is or how to fix it?

[chilly solar]

i have audiolink on my avatar (toggleable) and i want there to be a similar effect happening (also toggleable) in worlds or situations where audiolink will not be on/seen. so what i want is if you have both toggles, when audiolink is active youll see it, and when its not youll see the other effect. how would i do that if that makes sense

[somber sequoia]

swap materials is probably easiest

[night ember]

muck about with the audiolink and default settings of whatever is being audiolinked Ig

if you want it to be like "automatic"

[ivory kayak]

Does anyone know how to rotate eyes?

Let me elaborate, the eyes wont move in unity, and i got this model from gmod and once imported o couldn't move anything on the avatar including the eyes and im stuck. If anyone has had a similar issue and knows how to fix this please let me know

[somber sequoia]

default position in the eye look settings in the avatar descriptor?

[young tangle]

got a quick question

im uploading a avatar and its saying it couldnt compress the parameters enough to upload "parameter compression hook" is the error

[somber sequoia]

sounds like vrcfury to me

[young tangle]

think its possibly the wrong version?

[night ember]

actually screenshot the errors