avatar-help

[pine valley]

specifically when I have many things that should all have the same material anyway

saves me some work animating 10 different renderers

[past escarp]

Definitely, that makes sense! ty :]

[somber citrus]

Hi! So this is my first time making an avatar because i felt kinda bored but its only publishing on windows when I want it to publish on BOTH windows and quest, this pops up when I try and build and publish the avatar for quest. Can I have some help please? (Yes I used VRoid)

And yes I switched to the quest shaders before that happened

[somber sequoia]

you missed one somewhere. Check particle systems or materials swapped in via animations

[somber citrus]

Ill double check both my two materials

wait how do I go to the particle systems

[somber sequoia]

if you have one on the avatar, click it, then look in the inspector, way at the bottom in the "Render" tab is where the materials are listed

[pine valley]

to quickly find everything that could be a problem, search the hierarchy for:

t:renderer

This will list every single object that uses materials

This won't help you with material-swap animations, however

[somber citrus]

Can I ask where you search that?

Im still a beginner at unity lol

[pine valley]

top of the Hierarchy window, which will be on the left, by default

(it will look slightly different; this is Unity 6)

t: finds components of a specific type

and renderer is the parent type for every kind of thing that draws

[cinder creek]

regarding my WAY earlier issue with the black on the clothing, how... how do i actually... do it in blender or where can i find a tutorial?

[somber citrus]

Found it!

[lilac musk]

It's pretty normal blender stuff. Look up 'knife tool'. It's a pretty common way for people to cut around the black parts and delete the black entirely.

[cinder creek]

ok

[somber citrus]

Okay i searched it but it just appeared with both the ones i have materials for

[somber sequoia]

you won't find materials which are swapped in via animation in that hierarchy though

[somber citrus]

Ohhh ok

Is it in the animator section of the inspector

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea how your project works

[somber citrus]

Should i send a pic of my screen?

[somber sequoia]

it's not going to help really

[somber citrus]

I have the 2022.3.22f unity ver

[somber sequoia]

good

[somber citrus]

If that helps with anything

[somber sequoia]

that is the correct one

[somber citrus]

Alr

[cinder creek]

oh who am i kidding, i can't do this manually

any ways the cutout thing can be easier?

[somber sequoia]

cutout thing?

[cinder creek]

this issue we kind of talked about?

i can't bother with knife

[somber sequoia]

oh right, that

You don't have to use the knife tool but it's probably easiest if you don't really know blender. If you do know blender you probably know how to do this.

[cinder creek]

knife clings to every line on the mesh

[somber citrus]

Okay I found the materials but when I go to change it to toon lit or toon standard it has these black bits which I dont want. Is that unsolvable with a VRoid modle?

[timber wharf]

@somber citrus theres no transparency on quest

[cinder creek]

at the very minimum, is there a way to make knife NOT cling to each line, like photoshop lasso tool?

[timber wharf]

so its knife tool on blender as well

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what you mean by cling? I don't really find much use for the knife tool though, so I rarely try it

[cinder creek]

can confirm no transparency, exact issue here

[somber citrus]

Oh so will that just appear if it somehow uploads?

[cinder creek]

it gets stuck on these black lines

[timber wharf]

heres how to #avatar-help message

[somber citrus]

Okay maybe I should just wait until I get a new pc because my laptop will most likely die because it has a shit battery and it overheats easily. Thanks for ur help tho

[somber sequoia]

those look like the edges of your mesh - so yeah, of course

[cinder creek]

is there an issue there?

[somber sequoia]

not sure what you mean? You have to split edges in order to draw a new edge across the middle of a face, the knife tool just helps you do that easier in some cases

[cinder creek]

okay so what i want is to cut it smoothly along the edges of the dress there without any unrenderable transparency

yet you are stuck with selecting point a and point b for each segment and can't freeform it

[somber sequoia]

I suspect you'd have to have those faces split into many more smaller ones for that to work

[cinder creek]

what are other ways to do this thing

[somber sequoia]

you could manually split the faces in question, then manually move around the resulting edges, and delete the faces you don't want

[cinder creek]

and how do i do that?

[somber sequoia]

select two edges, right click, subdivide

I really suggest basic blender tutorials for this stuff

a little bit of the basics goes a long way

[cinder creek]

ok

[median stream]

Do i replace these ones on the quest avatar and delete the original ones? when i added a toggle for my pc avatar

[somber sequoia]

these being what? I wouldn't delete any of those folders...

[median stream]

Hmmm, so how do i make the toggles sync with my pc version?
I added toggles for the PC version, and it broke the quest where all the toggles is off

[somber sequoia]

Oh I see what you're asking - you use the same parameter list. Ideally the same file - order matters here.

you also have to take into account tools which edit that at build time, like VRCFury. It does have a way to keep those in sync, so look into that.

[zenith spade]

Not sure how to shade him. All the flats are done. He’s an all white lion.

[cinder creek]

i suppose the smart thing to do is assume that people don't do cutouts for others

[somber sequoia]

eh, it's just blendering, I'm sure you could commission someone to do that for you

[plain mural]

How can I make it so that other users can push my physical bones without grabbing them in their hand, but only by passing their hand past them?

[somber sequoia]

The only way this works is with a physbone component on the bone, set the radius as large as you like.
Note that you usually don't want to be putting a physbone on a humanoid bone... unless you like being a noodle

[floral smelt]

can anyone help me with gogoloco

[somber sequoia]

just ask your question

[floral smelt]

i kadd gogo loco but it gives me this warning but i cant find any files

[somber sequoia]

... you're going to share the warning, right?

[floral smelt]

yea sorry

[somber sequoia]

Oh it says what the problem is. You can use either the vrcfury prefab, or do it the manual way with the gogo loco animation controllers.

seems you're doing both

[floral smelt]

but even when i look for the files they are not there

[somber sequoia]

what files? Look at your avatar descriptor, find the animation controllers.
Feel free to screenshot

I actually don't know what that check ^ is doing, so you might have to dig into that or ask on the VRCFury discord for details, maybe you have something in one of your controllers it thinks is gogo loco but isn't

[rare jacinth]

Anyone know how I can fix my fallback model not having clothing? I did the toggles with vrcfury and they are all set to on. So im not sure what the problem is

[floral smelt]

im going to do a clean redo of the avi and take a look

[pine valley]

It checks if any of your playable layers include "goloco" in their asset path

[somber sequoia]

ahhh

[pine valley]

after checking that one of the controllers that it's trying to merge is identical to something plugged into a playable layer

[somber sequoia]

makes sense

[pine valley]

I missed that, whoops

if "goloco" isn't in the name, it gives a more generic error about trying to merge a controller that's already a playable layer on your avatar

[pine valley]

what did you actually do?

[floral smelt]

i had deleted the old gogo files then added the vrc fury gogo and when i went into play mode it gave me that error

[somber sequoia]

I wouldn't think you'd want to delete the actual files, doesn't the fury prefab use those?

[floral smelt]

does it i dont really know still kinda new to this

im going to try and use what gogo is there and see what i can get

now im getting this

[pine valley]

you need to look at the "Playable Layers" section of the avatar descriptor

[pine valley]

VRCFury shows this error if you have something plugged in here that is also used by VRCFury

[drowsy garnet]

friend tried to upload avi for me so on unity, it uploads and it says the avatar builds but when i try and see if it works on vrc i always get the error robot

do anyone know how to fix this

[floral smelt]

idk what to do from here

[wintry ledge]

upload failed and i get this in console,what does it mean 🥀

[little plume]

how can I modify my animation to make the character teleport around

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730948141196509297/1485035253491044462/2026-03-21_17-57-03.mp4?ex=69c0665b&is=69bf14db&hm=35be94cb99f16ff1b3eb91eb63090e16ec2b48cb8f645d2e50f5ae68a1508737&

this is the animation, but I need to modify it so she moves around

all i gotta do is make her move around, and change her scale for the second half

I know this is possible because I have a friend that did a similar thing for another avatar

[little plume]

sorry it didnt embed

[zenith spade]

Would this type of shading and dithering work in vrc or should I just use shaders within software?

[little plume]

poiyomi toon

[zenith spade]

Ok I’ll take note of that. Thank you! 🙂

[cobalt cloak]

hemm i need some help what shoud i doo

[little plume]

you press quit

that is a crash error

you made unity crash

[cobalt cloak]

okay and i just switch form andorid to pc version

[cobalt cloak]

wen i restart unity the same thing pops up up

[agile reef]

question about android models- how do I make it set to default a specific outfit?

[small shoal]

hi everyone, i dont mean to speak over the previous person! but i was hoping someone would know the fix to this, the first picture is how my avatar looks ingame when i start kneeling down, and the rest are how it looks in blender + unity. ive tried a lot of things to fix it, the bones are symmetrical and the weight painting looks fine as well :( i dont really know what to do

[lilac musk]

The knees on the rig need to have a slight bend to them. Same with the elbows.

[lilac musk]

It depends on how you setup your animation controllers. If your using a specific parameter on PC to set what outfit your wearing, the Quest side will change the same parameter (As long as the parameter lists are the same, which you should keep them the same for this reason) and animate as it does. So just keep things as simular as you can in that way

[small shoal]

hii thank you! how exactly would i do this? do i need to rotate the bones or something?

[lilac musk]

Honestly, just edit the rig and either pull the heels back a bit, the knee forward a bit, or both. Just give it enough that you can visually tell the leg is bent

In blender

[small shoal]

ok! blender, right?

[lilac musk]

Yea

[agile reef]

what is this errorr i cant test my model in gesture manager?

[modern wren]

is there any quick means to locate precisely where in the hell these shaders actually are? i can't seem to find them no matter where i look, even deleting and putting back my prefabs hasn't helped.

[lilac musk]

There is a search bar at the top of your hierarchy. Put in 't:renderer' and it will show you every object that has a renderer and so you can check its material lists to make sure they are the correct shader

[drowsy flicker]

Has anyone made png for android I need a lil help

[little plume]

ideas?

[lilac musk]

The only thing I can think of is to change the values in the animation. I think you can use the curves portion to select a group of key frames and move the x,y,z pos of the hips all at once, but I've never done it. I'd suggest making a duplicate of the animation and just play around with the values

[dusky walrus]

My avatar looks fine in the mapping/muscles inspector but is posed so weird in the viewport, how do i fix this

Figured it out! Had to go through all the leg bones and revert the modified components (didnt know this existed)

[scarlet flower]

So i need help really bad. I cant make my avi quesst compatible bcz its download size iss too big, how can i reduce this?

how do i take this much off

will taking all other textures off besides the base model help?

[lilac musk]

Yes it would help, but I'd simply try reducing their resolution first. It helps a lot if they haven't already be reduced

[scarlet flower]

how would i do that

this iss my 1st quesst avi

[merry ermine]

Dude.. What even...????

What did I even DO what happened

Its.. Fine in blender but..??

[lilac musk]

Select a texture, then in the inspector, there is a max size setting. Reduce it's max on android.

Hit the 'Override for android' and it will unlock the settings

[lilac musk]

Did you apply all transforms before exporting?

[modern wren]

prepare for extremely undesirable compromises

[merry ermine]

Umm.. Lemme check rq

[modern wren]

am doing the same thing right now :)

ideally you've got your stuff sorted nicely

if not in the future maybe consider using folders to sort nicely

[lilac musk]

Also kind of looks like you have some odd parenting on some of the bones

[merry ermine]

OH very possibly could be that

Let me try and fix it

I should never rely on the X mirror option lol

[scarlet flower]

So i have made all of it lower quality

but it says its the ssame download size

did i do something wrong?

do i have to refresh?

omg.

Im so sslow bro

i did it for windows

[merry ermine]

I did that, tried to fix the parenting and its still giving the same issues.. Any ideas??

[scarlet flower]

ima cry

iss there an undo button😭

[merry ermine]

Um ctrl z I think

With every new export its the same issue and Im not sure what happened

I just wanted to test out sizing to make sure its accurat in comparison to my other avatar

Anyways I have to pack so please ping if you have a tip

[scarlet flower]

so i reduced the resolution but it says its the same size whats going on?

[dark egret]

is there a reason for this error? i tried fixing it and im still getting it

[modern wren]

did you do it for android or for everyone

[scarlet flower]

android

[modern wren]

and you hit apply each time, yeah?

[scarlet flower]

yes

[modern wren]

holy shit that poor texture what even is that thing

32x

one pixel per mile

XD

[scarlet flower]

im just sseeing

how to make it go lower

but it wont

[modern wren]

do you have the right avatar selected

[scarlet flower]

yes

[modern wren]

welp im out of ideas

i'm not much more experienced than you LOL

im going through the same process right now and unfortunately we're still needing to go through another 2.5 mb or so

[lilac musk]

Did you do it for all your textures or just the one?

[scarlet flower]

all

[modern wren]

and i've already made every compromise i'm okay with making :D

[scarlet flower]

Its not going down even a bit tho

[lilac musk]

Might want to try Thry's Avatar Performance Tools and see what's causing the large size

[scarlet flower]

can u send a link?

or is it on google

[lilac musk]

google should find it

[scarlet flower]

it doesnt add

im so sslow bro

nvm

sso i got this now

does that mean i gotta lower my messh?

[lilac musk]

Mesh is a little more complicated. Could start off with removing unneeded blenshapes. VRCFury can do that on upload

[scarlet flower]

oh shoot

i dont have vrchatfury added to my quesst sstuff

do i need dat

[lilac musk]

Unless you want to delete the unneeded blenshapes yourself. I'd say it's worth using

[scarlet flower]

Bro

I mean this in the most friendly way

I love you

it uploaded

AHH

[lilac musk]

Nice

[scarlet flower]

bro

my fault.

but thanks

[lilac musk]

Keep workin at it and you'll be a pro in no time

[loud arrow]

how would i make a color wheel for vrc particles quest

[night ember]

if its just the color thats emitted and not the color of every particle exisitng or not then just animate the start color

[loud arrow]

how do i imput it tho

because i want to beable to change the color of flare i made

[night ember]

animation

[lilac musk]

Make an animation that goes through the colors you want, add it to your controller with motion time set to a parameter with zero speed, then use a radial puppet to control it

[loud arrow]

how do i make it drive it thats what i am asking

[lilac musk]

Radial puppet? I don't know exactly what your asking.

[warped chasm]

Hello I had a hopefully quick question. Im new to Unity but have a some blender experience. On the right I made a model where I wanted it to be shiny and silver.

How do I achieve this look in unity? I did add a texture to in unity in the screenshot you can see metallic map at 1 and smoothness at .816.

I guess the real question is, is this enough inside Vrchat? It looks like paper in unity but if I put in vrchat will it actually reflect? Tried to keep it short and to the point, thank you.

[night ember]

you dont have a skybox so its just reflecting the grey

[warped chasm]

Ah gotcha. So the question now, even though if I dont have a skybox how will that look like on an avatar?

[night ember]

depends on the world

[loud arrow]

what in here do i have to select to change starting color

[night ember]

the literal bar of color

I screenshotted it

[warped chasm]

Understood so theoretically it SHOULD reflect in game with these settings? Im getting ready to give this to a friend for their model

[loud arrow]

i dont see a start color here

[night ember]

itd just reflect whatever the world has

[night ember]

just click the red dot and then animate the particle

[warped chasm]

Awesome, so I think im done. I was concerned it wasn't working on my end. For avatar uploading, does it need to have a skybox to work? (Never worked on an avatar/Uploaded one before). Thank you so much for your quick responses!

[lilac musk]

Avatars are just an object, the skybox is part of worlds in VRChat. As long as you have your shader setup correctly (I think you do), then it should function in worlds with proper skybox/lighting

[warped chasm]

Appreciate it, I was losing my mind haha

I had the same theory but didn't know how to word it or who to ask. You guys are great!

[night ember]

the only time youd have a skybox/cubemap on an avatar is for some toggle thatd specifically emulate a skybox or you overwrote it via a shader like poiyomi

[hot loom]

How to add assit to avatar on VRCFury ?

[stark kiln]

does anyone know why it's doing this..😭

is it the armature

or something

like it's fine here but if i switch to crouch or anything it does this

and i've tried everything to get it to stick on

[rustic bolt]

guys does it cost money to make my own avatars that only i can use?

[stark kiln]

umm no there's a ton of free assets

[rustic bolt]

WHERE

i need a body asset lowk

[stark kiln]

i'm pretty sure if you go on like jinxxy or something u can find free ones?

idk actually i've seen some tho that r free

[rustic bolt]

does anyone wanna give me a body base or at least teach me how to make one before i cry 🥹

[ornate stump]

Try searching on jinxxy website.

[vale locust]

i already tried to like reload the sdk

and unity\

[ornate stump]

Switch to Authentication tab and change back to Build.

[rustic bolt]

all of them cost money and im broke unlike these rich ppl

[vale locust]

the issue is uploading it, like even if i switch it just dosen work

[stark kiln]

can anyone plsss help me with this

[rustic bolt]

i am so hecking confused why is blender so complicated

[stark kiln]

IKR?

it's the most confusing thing in the world

[alpine jay]

my face blendshapes work fine in blender but in unity and vrchat the lips deform really badly and i dont know how to fix it

[ornate stump]

You might have to look in console for error in the console.

[ornate stump]

Because 3D modeling isn't that simple.

[ornate stump]

You clearly can set price range to zero so it shows only the free one.

[rustic bolt]

for some reason its not

like it literally wont let me

[ornate stump]

Isn't it? https://jinxxy.com/market/avatars?max_price=0

[rustic bolt]

like its showing ones that are like $30 or more

and also does anyone know how to upload the free avatars when im on pc-vr

[ornate stump]

You only looked at the top of the list which show "paid boost" items. You have to scroll down to see your actual search result.

[rustic bolt]

ohhhh makes sense

[rustic bolt]

bro i gotta take a whole course next year to figure ts out like 😭

[ornate stump]

A collage has a whole course for 3D modeling.

[rustic bolt]

im in high school and theres a 3d modeling class

[ornate stump]

That's lucky for you to have that.

[rustic bolt]

yuhhh

i was in the class but then i left it

cause it was too confusing

but i also joined it mid way thru the semester so

[ornate stump]

You clearly missed the basic part of the course so that's why it's confused you.

[ornate stump]

If you're going to get from the basic again, watching the donut tutorial serie videos is the way to get started.

[rustic bolt]

but hes using a circle and im using squares

[strange saffron]

Anyone have ideas on how to create avatar lights in which the position of the light can be moved in the 3 axis on at least 3 different raidals (z radial is actually degrees, x and y are distance from the avatar) and if it is possible to vary the type of lighting (is behind a tree texture, is strong light, wider light spread, etc.)?

[torn beacon]

hey there, I am completely new to the VR Chat, I have modelled my own Vtuber avatar and a friend of mine asked me to create one for her for VR Chat - but it seems there are different settings needed than for e.g. Warudo

[gaunt knoll]

I mean I don't think most of us and used warudo

If you know blender and unity you should be fine

[gaunt knoll]

I believe most people use blendshapes to make something move in 3 axis

Or I guess you can use an animation

[strange saffron]

for avatar lights?

[balmy barn]

any radial animation that move a gameobjects in xyz direction , done it on stations so i could adjust anyone sitting on it

never made a video on how, you just animate the object on each axis on 3 different gameobjects

[strange saffron]

isn't stations chairs?

[balmy barn]

uhu

some small avatars go inside them why i added that

[strange saffron]

interesting

takes notes for potential new project

[balmy barn]

3 gameobjects, then motion time (blendtree should also work) , its a 'station' i just put the same avatar on it show its moving stuff

[strange saffron]

also are there any tutorials on avatar lights specifically? I can find general lighting advice but that's different from avatar lights, right?

[balmy barn]

lights on avatars heavy you rarely would see one

seen some guessing its spot

[strange saffron]

well the purpose is not for purely VRC for this version of the model

I'm going for a mixed media type content showcasing a background photo for videos

so the avatar lights will help bridge immersion of the model in the photo world

and if I can dynamically swap photos/lighting, that can make the end result more impactful

and I won't need to render/make an entire VRC world for it either

[teal bolt]

What do you need to download the iOS version?

[gaunt knoll]

You need to add the package

Well the unity add-on

[tired lintel]

hey can anyone with unity knowledge help me upload a avatar in dms, im new to unity.

[somber sequoia]

lots of us can help in the channel, feel free to ask specific questions

[quick sky]

How to import an avatar. I’ve looked up yt vids and nothing is helping me bc I don’t understand anything about code. I just wanted to download the file and upload it on my game

From Vroid

Ping me when you answer

[ornate stump]

There is no code involving in the procedure, so you likely misunderstood something.

[quick sky]

How do I do it

[ornate stump]

Which step that you got stuck?

[quick sky]

I have my file of the avatar download it’s the problem of getting it to vr

[ornate stump]

What kind of file is it?

[quick sky]

Uhhhh

One sec

[somber sequoia]

.vrm?

[quick sky]

Ben

Vrm

[quick sky]

Ges

My lord

Yes

[ornate stump]

Is that also an answer?

[quick sky]

No

It’s a vrm file

And google said to go to GitHub

So I went and idk where to go from there

[ornate stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPXe0a_yMQc

[quick sky]

All this is through computer right?

Or supposed to be right

I didn’t have to do it on vr headset

[ornate stump]

You need a PC to run all of those apps.

[quick sky]

Would a mac book be good to?

[ornate stump]

It works but may have some problem.

[quick sky]

Ty

[ornate stump]

Also note that if it mentions about using VCC, you will have to use ALCOM instead for your mac book.

[quick sky]

Alcom?

[ornate stump]

It's a replacement for VCC

[quick sky]

Is it a browser app or something?

[ornate stump]

You should see in the tutorial.

[quick sky]

Ok

[placid sleet]

Does anyone know the avatar code for mimi the silly's avi seduction?

[lilac musk]

Probably wont get an answer for that here as this is for help making avatars. I'd suggest finding the creators discord/community and ask there

[charred escarp]

does anyone know how to fix my avatar from being in this pose,
its stuck in the pose when you press preview while doing animations and it just lingers forever and i don't know how to fix it, can i have help please?

[lilac musk]

Pumpkins avatar tools has an 'enforce t-pose' that should fix it

[charred escarp]

okie dokie thank you ill have a look into that

[charred escarp]

do you know where that button is, from what i looked online people just talk about it but never really say where said button is?
if its not too much trouble

[balmy barn]

put av in there, click reset pose , old screenshot but its somewhere in the pumkin tools tab (add it first)

[charred escarp]

okie dokieee

i got it thank you soooo much

[little plume]

Is there a way to make a particle texture follow along a mesh or something?

If you look at the thing in the right, it uses a line of particles to make him look like lightning

[violet summit]

Hello! I am making my very first avatar and I am running into this one issue while in game. I'm not sure if its the viewpoint because i've tried everything i could with that and nothing worked.... can someone please help me?? The photo on the left is what happens when I use it and the one on the right is where I put my viewpoint. Thank you!

[little plume]

Wat exactly is the issue? Can you describe it further

[violet summit]

Literally when I spawn in, i only get the view of outside of the world. I wanna know why its doing that and not where the avatar is??

[little plume]

Where s your new position?

Nvrm I see it

Still don't see wat the issue is, it looks like you are just looking at something

[timber wharf]

@violet summit you have camera object, probably from exporting actual model alongside default blender stuff

[little plume]

Oh yeah I see that camera now too

That'd be your culprit

[violet summit]

How do i do it the right way? Am i supposed to delete certain stuff?

[timber wharf]

yep, normally you should delete light/camera/whatever is not a part of an avi in blender.

[fluid sinew]

Hey, can somebody help me fix this clipping issue?
I rigged the model myself and the rig is identical to the avatar (at least the bones that are present)

I know with clothing you usually make the model thinner, but how do I do that when it's not "fully enclosed"?

[timber wharf]

@fluid sinew uh usually data tranfser modifier - vertex groups - mapping being one of the last two options (whatever works better)

manualy painting stuff and hoping it will match wont work

[fluid sinew]

I used the data transfer modifier and vertex groups

maybe something got messed up there cuz the weights look a little off

[timber wharf]

doesnt look THAT skintight so should work decently

skintight is almost impossible to fit without it being the og geometry cut down

[fluid sinew]

well yeah, the chest part is not tight cuz I didnt sync the blendshapes yet

I don't think that'll fix the legs tho

Ill try to make it a little bigger

[fluid sinew]

Well scaling it doesn't really work

I'm using this asset but with a newer version of the rig (which is why I rigged it myself) so there should be some way it works
https://pawmodz.gumroad.com/l/RexouiumHarness

[timber wharf]

again r you sure youve removed old stuff ie made it unrigged then transfered weights with one of two last options

[fluid sinew]

Yes, I did the following:
removed everything except for the mesh
imported the avatar mesh and rig rig and deleted all the boney I don't need
Deleted all all vertex groups I don't need (only keep the ones used in the armature)
Used the data transfer and armature modifier

[timber wharf]

whats the dropdown selected to

its default to uuuh nearest vertex

which is suboptimal by far

[fluid sinew]

Nearest vertex interpolated

[timber wharf]

well i really dont remember which one, so it should be one of the last two options

ie i dont remember their names

[fluid sinew]

I used the same as the tutorial I watched

I rigged some tight stuff before that worked

but I just made the mesh below it thinner with a blendshape

which is not really an option with a harness

[timber wharf]

try the other one

otherwise, idk, i guess difference between density of src model and new stuff is too vast so manual painting or making stuff thicker it is

[fluid sinew]

Aight well, I see what I can do

Thank you very much for the adive tho

[raven lodge]

this will go on forever but the project wont let me upload it unless i click auto fix. and it just sits here loading doing this.

[sand cedar]

Im trying to make a tranforming avatar that uses two seperate models. does anyone know how to make it so i can swap betweent he two?

[balmy barn]

lots of constraints to control the other avatar

[sand cedar]

is there a video tutorial on it

[fathom basin]

why is this showing up even though i already uploaded like 3 avis

[somber sequoia]

logged in to the wrong account?

[tight quail]

(Asked for help in general earlier, whoops) Im trying to have colliders toggle an object. Using custom colliders with custom tags. Taking this step by step in debugging. Right now the animation I have that scales my object armature (rn my shirt for testing) down to 0. That animation doesnt seem to work in gesture manager. Not sure whats going wrong there.

[hot ferry]

If the animation isn’t working in Gesture Manager, it’s usually a path or binding issue. Make sure the animation is targeting the correct armature/object path and that the scale keys are properly set (not missing or overridden)

Also double-check the FX layer and parameters are set up correctly sometimes it’s not the animation but the controller not triggering it

[tight quail]

I just have a basic vrcfury toggle to test it rn

When i run the animation in the scene outside gesture manager, the armature does disappear

[hot ferry]

Alright that helps

If it works in-scene but not in Gesture Manager, then your animation is fine the issue is likely how VRCFury is driving it

Make sure the toggle is actually linked to the correct object/parameter, and that nothing else in the FX layer is overriding the scale (like another animation resetting it to 1)

Also check if Write Defaults is causing conflicts that’s a common one

[tight quail]

I'll be honest, I dont know what the hell im doing with this stuff so I'm not sure exactly what that all means

[hot ferry]

Ahh got you no worries at all

Basically, your animation is fine it’s just the setup that’s not triggering it properly. That’s pretty common with VRCFury/FX layers

If you want, I can quickly fix it for you

[tight quail]

Kinda in dnd atm haha. IT should be wrapping up soon tho. Will definitely take that help as soon as its over.

The exact thing I need the animator to do is have the object able to be toggle as normal, then have it be enabled if the collider gets within range. I have no idea how to work the animation controller to make it do that unfortunatly

[raven lodge]

Anyone know a fix for this?

[prisma sedge]

What are you clicking autofix on?

[raven lodge]

usually i can upload the avatar with this error present, but for some reason this time it wont let me

[balmy barn]

never seen that before, how wierd is your armature (blender please not unity)

[raven lodge]

not that weird this error pops up when i add a new outfit from blender and use armuture link on the outfit

[balmy barn]

if you adding in blender why you'd need armature link

[raven lodge]

cause im not reimporting the fbx everytime i add a new outfit, i just rig the outfit to the body and armuture and then drag the outfit and drop it on the avatars name and then add an armuture link to the outfit via vrcfury

[balmy barn]

euw , okey

[raven lodge]

yea

it says build failed, avatar validation failed?>

and my avatar is stuck in tpose while in gesture manager, there is something def wrong lol

[somber sequoia]

got a warning about the rig being non-humanoid?

(feel free to show errors)

[raven lodge]

the rig is fine, it is humanoid

[raven lodge]

idk why im having an issue now, the avatar uploaded fine like 4 hours ago

[somber sequoia]

are those the First errors? if not, show the first 2-3.

[raven lodge]

yes those are the first ones

[somber sequoia]

unfortunate, there's no useful info there

[raven lodge]

yea ik thats why im so confused LOL

[analog igloo]

anyone know how to make multiple toggles on a avatar from a video game such as a pokemon for example tried making multiple but they never work only got 1 to work which is the idle when i tried adding the others they dont work at all

[somber sequoia]

in a basic sense, without something like vrcfury, you make the second one just like the first, putting it into its own animation layer

[sharp zinc]

Hello, its my first time trying to upload an avatar, but I can't, I'm newbie in unity and all of this topic, and I wanted to ask for help so I can upload the avatar

As I see, in others uploads appears a loading bar, but in mine doesn't, I'm confused and I don't know how to proceed

[sleek pebble]

to fix these clipping issues do i take both the body and pants fbx's to blender and sculpt the pants? is there anything i gotta do besides that?

[somber sequoia]

that's about right - might need to update weight painting too

[somber sequoia]

you'll have to explain what actions you've taken, and what is going wrong. possibly via screenshots

[sharp zinc]

Thanks

For now I tried reloading the VRC SDK and I searched in internet for answers or fixes but didn't found nothing, this was the last error but it didn't appear again, now I'm waiting in the "building avatar" phase

This is another error that appears only when I switch the panel in unity

Another thing to add, I bought the avatar and I'm working in the version 2019.4.31f1

[somber sequoia]

oh

you want to be working in 2022.3.22f1

[sharp zinc]

alright, let me try on that version

[sleek pebble]

in what way exactly? like how do i know what the "optimal" weight paint is

[somber sequoia]

When it moves how you want it to

[sleek pebble]

and how do i test that

im guessing in blender>?

[left gull]

pose mode in blender while you're messing with the weightpaint

[sleek pebble]

okay thank you

[somber sequoia]

That exactly.

[sharp zinc]

I tried that version, only to verify, is it normal to be waiting half an hour and it didn't progress?

[somber sequoia]

I didn't mean to imply that would fix all your problems, just that that is the correct version to be using.

[sharp zinc]

I see

[tight quail]

Playing with some contacts now to debug smth im working on. I have colliders in empty objects that arent working with each othe. I believe its the sender that isnt working. Im testing it with my boop and the sender isnt activating my boop even though they both have the finger tag. Heres the reciever and sender. The boop still works with my actual hand hitting the collider still

[somber sequoia]

why use armature link when you can just drag the target transform into the "root transform" slot?

[sharp zinc]

The avatar did upload, don't know how, but it did, but I can't use it, when trying to use it says that the avatar is unavailable

[somber sequoia]

okay

[tight quail]

Idk haha. But would that break the collider? Not sure why it’s not working

[fluid sinew]

Does anybody know why this happens?

I redid the rig and check the vertex groups multiple times

it's right where some feathers are, but the bones of them are part of the rig as well

[lilac musk]

Weight paint issue. Those few vertex's have no weights

[fluid sinew]

So I have to paint them manually?

[lilac musk]

Yea probably

[fluid sinew]

aight thanks

[somber sequoia]

no, wouldn't have anything to do with how collision works, just placement of the object

[lime gorge]

how can i assign this texture file to my avatar?

its not applying right and how can i update texture files like this easily?

they are supposed to look like this

[somber sequoia]

presumably there's a material for whatever the "accessories" is, you'd put the texture into the base color slot there.

[lime gorge]

same for blender like in unity?

[somber sequoia]

for editing this easily, usually a 3D program like Substance Painter is best, assuming you have source files for that. Otherwise..... it depends

[somber sequoia]

same concept where textures go into materials, and those get applied to a model

(in Blender you can assign materials to faces)

[tight quail]

Ah I see. I’ll change it to see if it fixes it, but I don’t see why that would change it. Also quick question. Haven’t used root transforms before, what would go in there?

Other than that, and issues in those colliders that might stop them from working?

[lime gorge]

looks like i found how to do the rest

[somber sequoia]

I refer you to the docs for full details, but you can drag in a bone you want the collider attached to

[somber sequoia]

note that "shader editor" is the "Shading" tab

[lime gorge]

thanks for the tip

[somber sequoia]

sorry, @tight quail this one was for you, I forgot to hit reply

[lime gorge]

i'm trying to fix an offset viewpoint and update my textures of my avatar (a friend made it for me)

sadly im lazy and not in the mood to use blender

[tight quail]

Yup I saw. Going to apply in a sec. Ty for the help!

[zinc ferry]

every single time i enforce t-pose and save it.. and press done and then return to check on it, it just goes right back to its original state?? how do i fix this.

please someone help

[somber sequoia]

do you have this in blender? what's it look like there?

[zinc ferry]

a disaster, i got this off a website💔

[zinc ferry]

ill have it perfectly fine and then it reverts back to this

[somber sequoia]

I'd say you'll want to be fixing the default pose in Blender

[zinc ferry]

do you know why it does this though? i see tutorials and they do the force t-pose thing and then it stays like that.. but mine just wont.

[somber sequoia]

no, because I don't think any of that is relevant if you fix it in Blender.

[zinc ferry]

gosh i have no clue what im doing, this is my first time ever working with avatars. all because somehow no one made a slenderina avatar😭

[tight quail]

Still having issues with this. Debugging it still and when I swap from using the "Finger" tag to a custom one it breaks. Also the reciever I made, and added the boop param to it doesnt work with "Finger" or a custom tag. Not sure what is causing these issues

This is reminding me of debugging code and I do NOT miss that

Okay so learned something. If you have multiple receivers, it seems like proximity overwrites constant

[robust bison]

My texture ain't working

It's that good or bad?

And well some please test it to see if the texture actually works on the model

DM if you can do for FREE because im Break

[somber sequoia]

ohhh I didn't realize that's what you were doing

[tight quail]

No no, the multiple were for debugging

I only want the one

[zinc ferry]

can someone help fix whatever is wrong with this model😓
I'm not great at this stuff, if you can help.. Thank you!

[blissful pulsar]

is it possible to attach something directly to the players camera? not to the head, but the actual camera. for desktop users when crawling on the ground the head is no longer where the camera is

[tight quail]

Alright so I simplified my controller to this. Im trying to have it toggle on and off based on two things. I want the t-shirt to be able to toggle on and off normally, and I want to to toggle on and off based on a collider. When the collider is activated the t-shirt should be hidden. Does this look right for that?

Right now it isnt working. The tshirt toggle isnt turning the shirt on and off. Instead its only toggling the blendshapes under the shirt. The collider also seems to do nothing to anything. I verified in the debug menu that param is getting toggled by the colliders (going true and false as it should).

(Also whats tripple arrow vs single arrow. Is that an and gate vs an or gate? If so that would be perfect)

[somber sequoia]

no that's multiple transitions

which do in fact get treated like an OR

[carmine dock]

Hi guys does anybody know how to upload an avatar to your account?

[tight quail]

if I wanted multiple cases to be true for it to go to the next state, then jou would that happen?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, many of us do

[carmine dock]

I already have unity and the other thing

It’s just idk how to work any of it

[somber sequoia]

if you mean an AND, then put all the conditions into the same transition

[somber sequoia]

start here, if you haven't: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/

[tight quail]

I need both. AND for going to one state, OR for going back to default

[somber sequoia]

sure

[carmine dock]

ok ill look at that

[tight quail]

More debugging now... I set it so its just the collider toggle trying to toggle the shirt but its doing literally nothing when I activate the collider. In thee debug menu I can see it activating correctly. Just nothing in the animation controller is happening. Any ideas of whats happening?

[rustic bolt]

how does one even learn how to use blender

[tight quail]

Ide imagine that this is the final issue with what im trying to do. Once this part is fixed, it should all work

[sleek pebble]

what did i do

[lilac musk]

Lot's of google. I'd suggest simple blender tutorial videos to start

[sleek pebble]

anyone know what script the chocolat base avi is supposed to have?

[lilac musk]

The store pages usually tell you its dependencies

[somber sequoia]

Look up "The Donut Tutorial"

[sleek pebble]

theres no dependency i dont have, i have no clue what's wrong with it

it's several prefabs too

[lavish glen]

does anyone have the unity version link, the tools needed to upload pc and quest

[somber sequoia]

I get it via unity hub

installs -> install editor -> archive tab -> click the link for "download archive"

[lavish glen]

?

[somber sequoia]

what part of that do you need me to clarify?

oh you edited your question

well then if you've installed it via unity hub, those are available if you click "manage"

otherwise, you can get packages at the link I mentioned

[lavish glen]

where do i find quest tools? and vrchat avatar manager? vrcfury gogoloco

[somber sequoia]

those you get via VCC or Alcom, not Unity's package manager.

[lavish glen]

i got alcom

where do i download those things?

[somber sequoia]

you find the package repository and add that to alcom, then the packages in it show up in the list

[sharp lotus]

sorry to interrupt, quick question, my avi has an elbow shrink shape key for long sleeve shirts, how would I go about having that shape key turn on when applicable? Will this be a unity/VRCF thing or a blender thing?

[somber sequoia]

Unity

Fury if you prefer.

[sharp lotus]

bet thank you

[prisma goblet]

Hii i'm having issues with my unity. The SDK just does not exist. Its on the latest version, and I have tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it, and looked in the filles. My brain is so fried lol. help would be greatly appreciated.

[somber sequoia]

which unity version?

[prisma goblet]

2022.3.22f1

[somber sequoia]

Good, maybe try reinstalling the VRChat SDK, and make sure you have 3.10+

[prisma goblet]

I did.. and its still not working

I did that like 5 times lolll

[somber sequoia]

ugh, annoying

[prisma goblet]

Tell me about it lmaoo

[lavish glen]

how do i reduce a quest avatar size? I deleted stuff from the avatar, but its barely going down

[ornate stump]

You need to know what is taking up the size first. Use Thry avatar performance tool, and VRC world toolkits to inspect that.

[lavish glen]

transitions?

the avatar is over the limit

[ornate stump]

Transitions what?

[ornate stump]

It's VRAM. And partially blendshapes.

[lavish glen]

sadly, I dont know what this means

[ornate stump]

Are you going to see and post the details here so we know where to go next?

[ornate stump]

Put your avatar object in there.

[lavish glen]

the avatar itself

cause I don't see any objects for the avatar beside a hairpin

[ornate stump]

The avatar object means the object that has avatar descriptor on it.

[lavish glen]

?

i have like no knowledge of that entire sentence

[ornate stump]

Avatar descriptor is a component that make avatar an avatar. When talking about component, you will have to select some object and see in the inspector panel.

[lavish glen]

i just dropped the entire avatar in there because i dont understand

[ornate stump]

Have you never seen avatar descriptor at all?

[lavish glen]

no

I never heard of that all i know is pipe manager

[ornate stump]

It's the most essential part of the avatar that make avatar to become actual avatar.

[lavish glen]

is it like a download file for this

[ornate stump]

You already have that in your avatar if you could start the build progress.

Literally written Avatar Descriptor.

[lavish glen]

omg im so slow

i do know what that is i thought it was something else

[ornate stump]

There is only one meaning or avatar descriptor.

[ornate stump]

I didn't ask to see avatar descriptor, I only ask you to drop the avatar object that has avatar descriptor into the VRAM inspector which you already did.

[ornate stump]

From here, your size mostly from mesh data. Likely the amount of blendshapes is the problem.

[lavish glen]

oh, so I just delete those

[ornate stump]

Do you know how to?

[lavish glen]

no

i just saw the delete option is gone

[ornate stump]

There has never been the delete option for that.

[lavish glen]

oh

[ornate stump]

You have to use VRCFury Blendshape Optimizer component to remove unused blendshapes.

[lavish glen]

I have vrcfury

but i dont see blendshape optimizer

[ornate stump]

Where did you look for it?

[lavish glen]

all three rows

[ornate stump]

VRCFury Blendshape Optimizer component
It's a component. You have to do "Add Component" on your avatar object.

[lavish glen]

im on the object and i click on it and nothing happens

[ornate stump]

Did you click on the Add Component button and it show the menu?

[lavish glen]

I don't see add

[ornate stump]

Where are you looking at?

[ornate stump]

What do you mean you "click on it" when you don't even see the add component button?

[ornate stump]

You have to select your avatar object that's in the scene first before adding component.

And as I said before, avatar object is the object that has avatar descriptor on it.

[ornate stump]

Wrong object.

[ornate stump]

Then try build publish again.

[lavish glen]

ok

[lavish glen]

omgg thank you

I learned something

sorry for wasting an hour of your life

[lilac musk]

Now the real fun begins, start customizing it

[toxic panther]

Is there a way to make a toggle to disable eye movement?

[ornate stump]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors#animator-tracking-control

[toxic panther]

how do i get this tool tho i dont see a way to download it

[ornate stump]

It's already a part of sdk.

[ornate stump]

State behaviour is added via state in animator controller.

[toxic panther]

oh i see thanks!

[torn beacon]

for the Face I used blendshapes for the expressions, but for the body I should use them too? I know blender in regard of modelling, blendshapes and rigging for the bone structure. Unity I only know in regard of getting my model in the right formatting

[gloomy garnet]

So I have a really fuckin weird issue I've been trying to troubleshoot and fix for months now, and have yet to figure out what could possibly be causing it.

So, I have an avatar that has a bunch of poses(primarily on FX layer but also has a toggle that enabled the action layer too to move the viewpoint too) tied to a particular paramter. The parameter IS a synced parameter.

It works fine on Desktop. Syncs fine. You can sit, get up, lay down, etc and everyone will see you correctly.

But, SPECIFICALLY, if you're in VR... once you activate a pose, to everyone else, you are now STUCK in that pose and will not get back up or change poses. Even if it looks normal on your end, the correct pose, etc- everyone ELSE sees you stuck in that first pose. And this ONLY happens in VR???? Which makes zero sense to me???

[austere bay]

what are you trying to do?

[austere bay]

have you checked if your parameters are set to local only?

[gloomy garnet]

they are not set to local only, thus why I mentioned they are synced parameters

it also works fine in Desktop

this issue ONLY occurs if you're using the avatar in VR

[austere bay]

very weird, i honestly dont know where to start with that, I'd triple check all the parameters just in case, aside from that I don't see why you'd look fine on your end but be frozen in a pose for other people

if I'm understanding that right

[gloomy garnet]

I've checked the params like 500 times at this point

it's definitely synced

😭 \

it's a single "Pose" parameter

the baffling thing is that it works in Desktop but NOT in VR

that doesn't seem like a parameters issue

[austere bay]

maybe make a duplicate layer and just keep removing things until you find the culprit?

works for skyrim and sims mods, probably works for unity bugs :)))

[gloomy garnet]

yeah i don't even know where to BEGIN removing things bc the ONLY parameter that should be affecting that is the Pose parameter bc that's how the controller and menus are set up

and again it works in desktop

but not vr

😭

so like ????

what's weird is it syncs for the FIRST pose, too

but then you get STUCK like that on other peoples' screens

it's like, you sit... everyone sees you sit... but then if you get back up, everyone else just sees you still sitting

it's so fuckin weird dude

[ornate stump]

You should also provide detail of how you setup the animator controller for posing, for we at least get some idea for where to look at.

[gloomy garnet]

https://i.gyazo.com/57f387ff07010fec09244df575648a0b.png

[ornate stump]

Do you only have that one layer in action layer?

[gloomy garnet]

yep

the FX layer has more stuff but

[ornate stump]

What are the conditions in the transition for some pose for example?

[gloomy garnet]

I have two layers for poses, one is without the viewpoint following your head, the other has the viewpoint follow. a second parameter (PosedViewpoint) controls which layer it uses and whether or not it also applies the action FX layer(in the case of PosedViewpoint = true)

As for the conditions-

https://i.gyazo.com/f178c7dff7dd181f68679d1281807650.png

for ex Sit goes:

if Pose = 1, SitTransit. If Pose still = 1, Sit Loop. Pose does not = 1, Sit Transit backwards(getting up) and then restore tracking

and it works just fine on desktop mode

but specifically in VR it just ????

[ornate stump]

There are 5 transitions in each branch, can you post all 5?

[ornate stump]

Exit Time might be an issue. You should only either have exit time to be non-zero without condition, or disable exit time if you added condition.

[gloomy garnet]

But if that were an issue wouldn't it still cause issues on Desktop?

[ornate stump]

It could be either this or different issue. It's also possibly exit time timing issue is different between desktop and vr.

[gloomy garnet]

that'd be so weird tho bc it's the same exact avatar

like, same upload ID, same prefab

😭

[ornate stump]

I mean the game itself runs differently between desktop and vr.

[gloomy garnet]

ok upon reupload and testing again w/ a friend, issue is still there

even after disabling Exit Time on the transitions w/ conditions

[ornate stump]

If it's in action layer, did you also add PlayableLayerControl state behaviour to control action layer weight?

[gloomy garnet]

yep, but also by default the PosedViewpoint toggle is off so the action layer is irrelevant and not even animating

rn I'm testing w/ PosedViewpoint off

so the action layer can't be the issue bc it's entirely FX

it's the same issue whether it's toggled on or off tho

[ornate stump]

Does the FX for that has same layout?

[gloomy garnet]

yeah the FX layer is what I showed

it's the same layout on both

[gloomy garnet]

this shit's driving me crazy man no matter what I try nothing seems to fix it, and I have like no clue what could even possibly be causing it 😭

[torn beacon]

I have built the avatar in blender, made Blendshapes for the face and a rig with weights for the body, and now wanted to make it ready for VR chat. I downloaded the proper version for Unity and the VRC SDK - but here is then the problem, I receive alot of errors or issues

I have multiple meshes inside because I don't wanted to merge all of them, but it seems that is also a Problem

[gloomy garnet]

............ok so as it turns out. it SEEMS to be caused by another layer I have on the FX. "Disable Pose on Move".

It's set to set Pose to 0 if Velocity > 0.001

idfk WHY that would cause issues.

but APPARENTLY that's the problem

and the only reason I even thought ab that layer. is bc I set one extra condition to it that I just added today: Pose does NOT equal 8. Bc pose 8 is a "pick up" pose that you're supposed to be able to move with. and in testing, THAT pose worked fine and could transition out of

[balmy gyro]

how do we fix the blueprint bug

[ornate stump]

Look for other error that come before that one.

[balmy gyro]

i fixed it

<3

[small valve]

I wish VRChat would update their Unity version to Unity 6, because since I switched yesterday to Linux with everything Unity related (including VRChat Avatar Projects)...
I am forced to use OpenGL for VRChats Unity version 2022.3.22f1, because Vulkan would crash the Project and lock me out to change it back) - but this seems to be fixed in Unity 6 because my none-VRChat-realated projects in Unity 6 works fine with Vulkan as the Unity Editor Graphic API.

Any idea when VRChat will update to Unity 6 or does anyone may know how to make Vulkan as Graphic API work under Unity 2022.3.22f1?
Because editing avatars in Unity with 5-8 FPS is nothing I would enjoy.

[somber sequoia]

oh Vulkan works great for me, interesting

I pass these flags to the Unity editor:
-force-vulkan -force-gfx-direct -force-vulkan-layers

[ornate stump]

There is no public information on whenever vrc will switch to unity 6.

[small valve]

Are you using Unity on Linux? or just enabling Vulkan Graphic API under Windows?

[somber sequoia]

Linux

I switched to Vulkan maybe 2 months ago, upgraded my system (including nvidia drivers) and it got all slow with OpenGL, this was the solution.

Still running OpenGL mode on my laptop, which I have not done that system upgrade on, and uses an AMD GPU.

[small valve]

I use Linux Mint 22.3 with Kernel 6.17

[somber sequoia]

Fedora 43 with 6.18.16 at the moment

[haughty sparrow]

Was updating the sdk on my project and the power cut out. Now whenever I click "Manage Project" I'm just met with this..

How cooked is this project?

[ornate stump]

You could create a new project and move Assets folder from the old project into the new one.

[gaunt knoll]

ehhh you can repair it maybe

[haughty sparrow]

Was about to try this, but I might have found another method

Took these json files from a functioning project, deleted them from the corrupted project and pasted these healthy ones in

Was able to load the project in VCC, go to Manage Project and resolve dependencies

[somber sequoia]

yeah that'll work, nice job

[sleek pebble]

i think i missed a step... how do i connect the armature and make the hair not visible to me😭

[somber sequoia]

how are you doing this now?

[sleek pebble]

wdym

[somber sequoia]

there are lots of ways to do this, tell us what you have done so far

[sleek pebble]

i just dragged the assets underneath my avatar base

changed some blendshapes

tho now that i look at it i think i uploaded the old version that i deleted some armatures from

[somber sequoia]

Yeah that's not going to attach it to the head bone, you'll need to use something like VRCFury's Armature Link if you're doing it in Unity.

Or you could set it up in Blender.

[pine valley]

nice!

[sleek pebble]

ill look into it then

i thought maybe modular avatar did it automatically

[pine valley]

sounds like the VCC blows up if one of those files is malformed

[ornate stump]

If you added yourself, you still have to configure it to work properly.

[pine valley]

you'd need to tell MA to attach the clothing to your body

[sleek pebble]

is that one of the big options on the script?

[pine valley]

https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev/docs/reference/merge-armature

[hasty gorge]

dose the textures in the assets that are not applied in a vrchat avatar add to the mb even thought its not on anything

[lilac musk]

Nope, it only uploads the stuff that the avatar has on it, nothing else. This does though include things that animations use as well, so if you switch to a different material and therefore texture, it will be counted

[pine valley]

It is possible to have unwanted references to textures

For example: you have a material feature turned off, but the texture is still plugged in

I'm pretty sure that locked shaders (notably, Poiyomi Toon) avoid this

but shaders that don't use locking may wind up including textures by surprise

https://github.com/Thryrallo/VRC-Avatar-Performance-Tools can help you spot this

[lilac musk]

Good point

[pine valley]

(shader locking completely deletes unused features)

[hasty gorge]

for some reason this avi was uploaded befor and worked for both pc and vr and was fine but now says its 50 mb

[pine valley]

by itself, that doesn't help, but i'd expect them to also delete unused texture references

[pine valley]

try this out, then!

you can install it through the VCC

it tells you every texture your avatar uses

If you're using VRCFury, I'd suggest entering play mode before using it

otherwise, you may miss textures

[lilac musk]

I second this

[wide jasper]

hi everyone, i really need help about the sitting pose of my character, so in unity it's still sitting normal but in game, the knee is not on the floor, i don't know how to fix this, hope you guys gonna help me

[sick mesa]

Hi everybody! I have this platypus avatar that I want to fix or optimize. People have said the hitbox for my avatar is wonky so it's hard to play with it and I want to fix it

[lilac musk]

Probably the bounds of the mesh. Are they seeing you disappear at some angles or something else?

[hasty crest]

sorry if this is a stupid question, first ever avatar and i dont really know how to use unity but its saying that i dont have my hands and feet mapped even though they have bones assigned? do i need every one of unitys bones for it to export?

[haughty moth]

Trying to make it so players can grab an item from my avatar. Made it so when it is grabbed (thanks to physbone) it moves to their hands position constantly, but the object will not rotate when the one holding the item rotates there hand. Is there any way to get a physbone to rotate relative to the players hand. (As if the bone was parented to that other players hand)

(Doubt that I explained this well).

[somber sequoia]

#avatar-rigging but also show the main page of the rig setup, not the head page.

[hasty crest]

oh right, sorry

[sick mesa]

I shall list out some issues:

• It's hard for people 'touch' me so I can't be picked up in furry hideout or something like that (my friend tried to pick me up)

• It was a murder mystery game and I couldn't play cause my hit box is smaller than my model. I think it's cause i would be unkillable if I use it

• I am very slow on some worlds like sunset bar for some reason and people said it was because I was too small even tho I saw some avatars smaller than me and they were fine

• Same thing on the scp world. I couldnt use my avatar because the label won't show up above my head.

• Also some worlds would inflate my avatar and I can't shrink it- such as cuddle and sleep

• I also have the tendency to sink into some couch cushions

Thank you so much. Im planning on downloading unity and the vr chat character creation tool to help with it. I really like this avatar a lot and wanna make it work

Also if you want like more examples I can hop on and show you what I mean- I can stream i really dont mind

[tight quail]

Day 2 of working on this lol. Im trying to have a collider toggle an object (using my shirt rn). I have the collider working which I confirmed in thee debug menu in game. I went to my object's animator and simply replaced the parameter from the radial toggle parameter with the parameter than my collider is toggling. This animator controller still works perfectly with the regular toggle in place. Any ideas why this might not be working?

[small valve]

Why does the Rotation.x value always reset itself back to -6.524 if I write a value inside?

[balmy barn]

editing a humanoid bone isnt that easy

[zenith spade]

I wasn’t able to clean up the shading I tried to create earlier in blockbench. He was rigged in mixamo. Everything was done on an iPad Pro. Is using mixamo ok to use as a base rig if I want to do commissions in the future? How do you think he looks despite the shading?

[small valve]

so how to solve it then?

[sharp zinc]

Helloo, I was tryying to upload this avatar since yesterday put it always got freeze in Building Avatar, but it uploads the name and picture of the avatar to my profile, anyone has a clue what could be the cause from this? Any help is appreciated

[warm finch]

Hai everyone? I recently got an avatar called Lisa by a creator named Pawsiku. The instructions to upload it however are little unclear and the example image within the text file provided is invalid and no longer exists. I have to use Unity 2019 and SDK 3.4.1. It also want's me to configure sps and vrc fury, however I don't know which versions I need in specific due to same reason I listed above. Does anyone have this avatar as well and know the upload process, or does anyone at the very least know how to figure out what to do if I can't get in contact with the creator?

[somber sequoia]

you really want to be using current Unity and SDK here.

[balmy barn]

anytime someone say it must use x unity y sdk they are just badly written instructions from creator

[somber sequoia]

you cannot create a new avatar with those old versions.

[warm finch]

I see, so should I ignore the instructions and just use the latest versions of everything? I attempted this before and the avatar upload size ended up being too big.

[balmy barn]

sdk 3.10.2 is the one you want now

[warm finch]

Alright I'll try that and see what happens.

[balmy barn]

hope they didnt include shaders/other scripts in the package, they are way too old if it used 2019 , but easy enough to update (unless it some obscure one)

[pine valley]

You're going to want to have finer control over rigging. Mixamo can help you get a good starting rig, of course.

[pine valley]

to start, this error is a red herring – it appears whenever an upload fails

This part is interesting. I have seen other people with the same error.

If it's what I think it is, it's thrown from code that tries to decide whether your avatar is private or public

Is this the first time you've uploaded this avatar?

[zenith spade]

Ok. 🙂

He still needs to put in unity. Is it potable to add bones to his tail if I import him into blender after using mixamo as a base?

[sharp zinc]

Yes, is the first time

[pine valley]

okay, so you're in the same boat as the other person

After you've uploaded the avatar once, VRChat pulls things like "is this avatar private?" from its own servers

But before that point, I'm pretty sure that's stored locally

my hunch is that there's something that causes this data to go missing

there's a function that takes a string and checks if it's "private" or "public"

the error suggests that it's receiving null (i.e. nothing at all)

[sharp zinc]

You have a clue what could be this something? It's my first time and it's an brought avatar, so I'm have no clue what could it make that

Also, idk if this counts but, I tried to upload it some times, and deleted the "avatar" from my profile, bc it didn't let me use it

[somber sequoia]

that's quite large.

[warm finch]

this is the message I got. When I imported the package, it did import unlitwf shaders. I don't know if that's the shaders you mentioned

I am on unity 2022 now tho

[night ember]

How in the hell does it reach that much

[warm finch]

I’m not sure, I’m very new to this

[lilac musk]

8k normal map for a 20k poly pinky ring

kind of mentality

[pine valley]

500MB is enormous

[balmy barn]

animations/sounds and a large mesh my guess

[pine valley]

you probably have a ton of very large textures

[tight quail]

Slight update. Still not working but I had to change the parameter in the controller to a float, and make the receiver proximity. I have it defaulted to shirt on, which works, but when the colliders activate, the shirt stays on.

[balmy barn]

id stick to bools, unless you need to change something many times (blendshape for exsample longer someone stick a finger on nose)

constant for contacts act as on/off

[tight quail]

With the bool nothing was happening at all. Now the shirt working as defaulted on. Either way this should work no?

[tight quail]

Ill swap it back for a sec and see what happens tho

[warm finch]

these are the red errors for whenever I upload

[balmy barn]

521k otherwise not THE worst material/mesh counts you see in here

[tight quail]

Whats giving you that many triangles??

[warm finch]

I'm not sure. This is my first time uploading an avatar and it appears I picked a difficult one

I have no experience with unity

[lilac musk]

It's pretty common for people to not optimize their avatars or expect the buyers to do it

[balmy barn]

good thing then , it would require blender to fix most of it , some people love to slap on things in unity wich that one likely have

[tight quail]

Swapped to constant and bool's. The shirt is defaulted on and is appearring. It is not not toggling off with the collider still. When I swap the controller back to it's radial toggle it works just time.

Why can't unity just be happy for once

[dawn oak]

shape key gets set to 0 in aniamtion but still shows up and overlaps with my expressions please help

[warm finch]

What should I do? Like I said I'm a little lost as I really don't know this program or this process.

[lilac musk]

You can take some steps to get it to upload for PC, but quest is going to take a lot of work

[warm finch]

It’s for pc only so thats the goal

[lilac musk]

I'd first start with reducing the texture sizes

[teal laurel]

^

Check your texture size and drop it step by step until it looks too ugly

this is gonna get download, texture memory and uncompressed size down quickly

[warm finch]

is this the texture menu? If so, where would I go from here

[somber sequoia]

Wow this avatar is raising all kinds of red flags

[lilac musk]

That's your assets, it's what Unity will use to build your avatar. It does have textures, so select them, and in the inspector, reduce the size. You can select multiple textures at once with shift.

[balmy barn]

guessing lots of matswaps

[warm finch]

Alright I turned everything down in that menu to 1024 as the max size

[somber sequoia]

I notice you have _PoiyomiShaders in the Assets folder, I'd delete that and install it the modern way, via VCC/Alcom.

[lilac musk]

I'd imagine it will be able to upload now. Though I'd also suggest working on making it a little more optimized in the furture as well

[warm finch]

Alcom?

[somber sequoia]

open source, cross-platform replacement for VCC

[warm finch]

So i should delete the one in assets and download the shaders repository?

[somber sequoia]

not what I said. Here, see the install docs: https://www.poiyomi.com/download#method-1-alcom--creator-companion

[warm finch]

Ah I see, sorry I feel so dumb- This is all very new to me

[somber sequoia]

no worries

[warm finch]

Ok I added the toon poiyomi to the project

Alright it uploaded! Time to put it to the test!

[warm finch]

It works! thank you guys sm

[turbid cedar]

when i go to weight paint an object parented under my armature, and alt click/ctrl click it wont lemme click the bone

[vague cedar]

asking for advice here. been a weak since i downloaded a random cloth asset and eversince i havent figured how to fit it to my avatar in blender. i cant help but to wonder if im doing sculpting wrong or it would be easier if i just make my own clothes from scratch instead

[turbid cedar]

uhh

i just sculpt and use the draw tool for that!

just click on the bits that are too small

but try to use base mesh scaling to get as close as you can first

[vague cedar]

what brush tool do you usually use? sry but im still a new to blender

[turbid cedar]

draw

its js called draw

[tight quail]

I'm sorry to keep coming back to this but I have been tinkering with it for a while with no progress. It doesn't work with the receiver being on constant or proximity. I am not sure what is going wrong with this. The collider is working as I can see it in the debug menu. The controller works when I revert it back to its original toggle in the radial menu it works just fine there. I really dont know what is going wrong here.

I did one more test and it really is reading the collider as false, and never reading that it has updated to true.

[turbid cedar]

grab is good too

[pine valley]

by "Debug menu" do you mean the Gesture Manager's debug screen?

or is this the in-game debug window?

[tight quail]

In game Debug menu

[turbid cedar]

?

[pine valley]

and what are you "seeing" there? the parameter value changing?

[tight quail]

Exactly. When I had it set to constant I saw it going false and true as it should. Same with it going from 0 to 1 with proximity

[pine valley]

Have you tested this in the editor? It'll be easier that way

Gesture Manager has a "clickable contacts" option for this

[tight quail]

Oh? One sec let me try

Would this make any difference?

[tight quail]

Wait when I force it to be true through the gesture manager, it toggles the shirt correctly

This is confusing

Wait the full name of the contact in gesture manager and the name of it in the debug menu in game are different

In gesture namager its VF141_CustomContact, in game its just CustomContact

[pine valley]

ah, did you put the contact receiver under a VRCFury Full Controller?

VRCF renames parameters to avoid conflicts between different full controllers

[tight quail]

The receiver is just under an empty object I added rooted to my hand

[pine valley]

or, is "VF141_CustomContact" the one that makes the shirt turn off?

[tight quail]

I named the parameter CustomContact. Idk where it got the VF141 from

One sec lemme just ss all the components

[pine valley]

I'm talking about what parameter you are setting in the gesture manager

[tight quail]

That should be them all

[pine valley]

Which one made the shirt work correctly?

[tight quail]

Ah 1 sec lemme grab

The VF141 is in gesture manager

[pine valley]

okay, so this suggests that:

• the contact receiver is still using CustomCollider
• the layer that controls the shirt is using VF141_CustomCollider

how is the shirt attached to your avatar?

through a Full Controller?

[pine valley]

okay, that's the important bit

You need to edit the prefab

unfold "Advanced Options", then add an item to the "Global Parameters" list

(and name it CustomCollider)

VRCFury is renaming the parameter to prevent it from conflicting with anything else on your avatar

Global Parameters prevents it from doing this renaming

[empty sentinel]

is there a way to have a toggle that offsets an avatar from the floor to accommodate footwear with different sole thickness?

[tight quail]

OOoooooohhhh I see. So many small things in avi work haha

[pine valley]

This renaming is useful when you have multiple systems that want to use similar names for their controls

e.g. all of my "modules" use things like Control/Active

without parameter renaming, they'd all wind up colliding

so turning on one system would turn on everything else too

Using a control worked because you put it into the menu used by that full controller

If you had put the control in a different menu (that wasn't merged in by the Full Controller), you'd have had the same issue

[tight quail]

Uhhh its still seeming to not work.

Going into gesture manager real quick to see what its named as

[tight quail]

Its still named VF141_CustomContact in gesture manager?

Wait... i may be stupid 1 sec

[grim heart]

so i have a prop, i want it to be grabbable by everyone via physbone and constraints, but when people grab it, it rotates around the bone area. how do i make it so when its grabed it stays upright and doesnt rotate?

[pine valley]

Show me the full controller's inspector (after hitting "Edit in Prefab" and unfolding the advanced options)

[tight quail]

I named it the wrong thing. 2 seconds

[pine valley]

If the prop should never rotate, you can use a VRCRotationConstraint

[tight quail]

Testing rn

[pine valley]

You can use a prefab as the source

prefabs won't even move (they don't even exist, really), so this lets you set the rotation to some fixed value

[tight quail]

it WORK

tyy

[grim heart]

i can try it but if i remember corrctly it made it very... broken. ill try again and show you ina bit

[dawn oak]

please help

[idle quartz]

so my hand animations are kinda messed up. the left hand gestures work but the right hand only plays a slight hand closed animation for every gesture. I've redid the masks and also made sure each animation is right to no avail

[arctic ginkgo]

something else must be animating it. You can try removing controllers and layers (on a duplicate controller) to see what is affecting it

alternatively, your animation may have multiple keyframes with different values

[dawn oak]

i removed the controllers tho

hm

[arctic ginkgo]

if you remove every controller then it will not be animated

[stiff kiln]

Can... someone help me with a weird issue about my avatar's screen shader?
I made a custom shader that hides my avatar's screen from it's own camera using a masking plane. But for some reason, when I upload the avatar, the shader will randomly stop working. It can be as soon as I upload the avatar, or randomly stop a week later. I tried many things, but nothing worked.

[pine valley]

does it work in some worlds and not in others?

also, what does this "masking plane" do?

[stiff kiln]

Gimme a sec... im opening Unity.

Basically, the mask is a plane placed in front of the camera. And what the mask does is that it makes the screen invisible, so that it doesn't block the camera's view. But for some reason, it will randomly stop working and show this black rectangle instead.

At first I tried using the Camera object's layer culling system, but apparently it doesn't work on avis since all objects get their layers changed in-game. So I had to make a custom shader that uses stencils.

[stiff kiln]

Also, no. It doesn't seem to matter which worlds I go to, the issue still appears randomly. The only fix I found so far was to re-upload the avi until the shader works again. But again, it randomly stops working after a while. Its a private avatar too and the camera's animation isn't a sync parameter, so idk why its doing that.

[pine valley]

Are you using stencils to do this?

[stiff kiln]

Yes, I just said it.

[burnt rose]

Do you really need a humanoid skeleton just to add an expressions menu to an avatar?
I set up all my animations, parameters and menus for a 2d avatar, and the menu simply doesn't show up no matter what i do
EDIT: if you add a Generic (non-humanoid) "Avatar" to the Animator components avatar slot, it works. I had to duplicate one from an fbx import set to Generic. It's weird as heck that this step is required.

[stiff kiln]

Its the only way I found to make the mask work in the first place.
I was told to use Poiyomi, but I couldn't find a way to make it work. So I gave up and tried making my own shader.

[pine valley]

Oh, my bad! Gotcha

yeah, avatars can only use a handful of layers

Although, I believe you can use the "UI" layer (and then tell the camera to not render that one

[pine valley]

Does it ever un-break itself?

or do you have to reupload every time

[stiff kiln]

I tried, but then the game seem to automaticly set the screen's layer to PlayerLocal.

[stiff kiln]

Nope, sometimes I even have to reupload it 4 or 5 times before it works again.
But yet, on the SDK Test version, it seems to work more often than the regular upload.

[pine valley]

I wonder if this is an order-of-rendering issue

i.e. the mask renders before or after something else in an inconsistent way

[stiff kiln]

Order of rendering?

Like... these things?
(They're both set like this on my screen and mask.)

[pine valley]

So they have identical render queues right now?

Do the mask and screen sit in the same position?

If so, that’s very likely the issue. Try making the mask render earlier, like at 1999

[stiff kiln]

They dont sit in the same position, the mask is attached to my hand's camera and the screen is attached to my head.

So, I just tried changing the rendering Queue, nothing changed...

[turbid cedar]

she very much does have one

[hot loom]

How to fix this model?

Skirt is not show.

Oh fixed.

[hot loom]

How to fix SPA?

[hot ferry]

For the model: check textures, layers, and mesh visibility
For the SPA: check routing, component rendering, and console errors

[tulip linden]

Hello! I would like to ask If I want to add clothing changes to a model converted from an MMD model to FBX format, do I need to remove all the clothes in Blender and redo the avatar, or should I create a clothing system in unity directly?

[somber sequoia]

I generally do all mine in Blender, and export the body + a single "outfit" as an avatar, different outfits = different avatar.

[tulip linden]

i see thank you!

[slow panther]

i didnt delete any related bones to my avatar, sometimes on export it decides to pick a random bone to send to the floor, my only workaroundive found was to rebuild the entire avatar again with a new dropped fbx if that makes sense, but thats like an hour of copying over settings to the new fbx like physbones and stuff

any workaround?

when i delete the strap bones it just breaks my legs

im 50% sure its an exporting glitch or issue

[somber sequoia]

interesting. I'm not sure how those things would be related

[slow panther]

its happened to me so many times

[civic sinew]

Do y'all know how to reduce the MB on a model without removing anything? (There's nothing on the Avi but goloco and the limb scaler)

[somber sequoia]

what is taking up the space then?

[civic sinew]

That's the thing I'm not sure

I even downscaled the textures

[somber sequoia]

Thry's avatar tools has a thing that can hell you see what's large

[civic sinew]

My buddy said something Abt baking the model bc of unused something or others but he told me weeks ago and I've got the memory of a goldfish

[civic sinew]

What's is called?

[somber sequoia]

if you search for that, you'll find it

I forget the actual name

[civic sinew]

?

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's the right thing

[civic sinew]

Alr what am I looking at, mb I'm a bit new to ts

???

[somber sequoia]

you have many blendshapes, which take up lots of space. Remove some to save space.

[civic sinew]

How do I remove blend shapes?

[somber sequoia]

blender. some unity tools too, though I don't use those so don't really know much about them

[civic sinew]

OHHHH is it because I went in to shrink the model to remove clipping on the clothing?

Alr, I'll figure it out from here THX A BUNCH!

[mental zephyr]

Never had this happen before, unity not recognizing foot bone