avatar-help

[ornate stump]

There are existing sample gesture layer called "HandsLayer" you see in the sample folder in Packages folder. So take a look in there.

[hollow mountain]

When you don't have a gesture layer assigned it uses that?

[ornate stump]

Take a look as an example how layer mask is setup.

[hollow mountain]

Well where do I put those layers? I'm a bit confused

[balmy barn]

left and right shoul have masks so it only affect that one hand , vrc_AvatarV3HandsLayer have exsample duplicate it and move it you have a set up one

[ornate stump]

What do you mean where to put those layer?

[hollow mountain]

It's a .mask file, where's that go on the avatar??

[balmy barn]

(and right mask on right hand already setup)

[ornate stump]

See the images above.

[hollow mountain]

Ohhh I see

Sorry, I've never messed around with gesture stuffs beyond a tutorial I forgot years ago because VRCfury came out

Ah yeah there's just no mask.

So i'd assume just drag and drop the sample masks in and that should be fine?

Huh, when I open that it appears that VRCfury automatically tossed in its own masks upon upload?

More confused now

Aand now the masks are appearing despite not doing so before??

[balmy barn]

id just duplicate the exsample one and those are in asset, vrchat ones in packages

[hollow mountain]

So VRCfury made its own masks but double assigned the right one, while ignoring the left mask it generated??

[ornate stump]

The picker only shows the asset in within "Assets" folder. You have to navigate the Packages folder from project panel.

[hollow mountain]

Nono I'm saying that there are masks in there, which weirdly there weren't two seconds ago, but the masks are made by VRCfury according to their location being its temp folder. VRCFury seems to have generated a left and right mask, but applied the right to both hands.

I put the left mask it generated on the left hand, gonna test upload and see if that fixes it

[ornate stump]

You should never use generated asset. You didn't even confirm its content.

[hollow mountain]

I'm confused, what's the problem with that? And I'll peek at it now.

Huh, since I just test uploaded it before I saw that, I went back and the masks are.. gone?

Yeppp

[ornate stump]

Generated asset is managed by the tools it generated so it can be deleted at anytime the tool decide.

[hollow mountain]

Left hand mask has both hands assigned

Ohhh alright, that makes sense.

Thanks for teaching me stuffs :3

[gloomy bolt]

Hi, I have a problem with this outfit it work perfectly in blender and unity but just fall through the avatar when in playmode. Is there a way to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

how have you attached it to the avatar?

[gloomy bolt]

I assume it be just drag the prefab to the Avi and do the rigs in the prefab with dragging all the bone into the root

[somber sequoia]

... what?

[gloomy bolt]

I did all that unless i missed something

[somber sequoia]

you'll need to be more clear, "do the rigs"? "dragging all the bone root"?

[gloomy bolt]

i did these

[somber sequoia]

oh that method

[gloomy bolt]

I''m still new to this thing

[somber sequoia]

so what is this, just a model file?

[gloomy bolt]

I got the outfit online now i want to add it to my avatar

[gaunt knoll]

Is it rigged for the Avi?

[somber sequoia]

It looks to be rigged, if it has an armature already

[gloomy bolt]

I have rigged and unrig

It work with the base

[somber sequoia]

I'd suggest using VRCFury's Armature Link instead of doing that method.

[gloomy bolt]

hmm ok

[somber sequoia]

(I mean, I would do this in Blender...)

[gaunt knoll]

Also true 😂

[gloomy bolt]

I dont understand it

[somber sequoia]

okay

[gaunt knoll]

Undo what you did

Click on the outfit and slap on fury armature link

[gloomy bolt]

It just this

I

these works but not what i need to work

[somber sequoia]

Seems like the body needs to be reshaped to fit under the clothing, or vise-versa.

[gloomy bolt]

The rig did this so idk

[somber sequoia]

Often the body has a shape key to shrink it. If not, you'll need to bring it into blender or similar.

[gloomy bolt]

ook how do i do this

Is there a yt tutorials for me to follow? I'm so lost with how to learn to do it

[balmy barn]

ah yes the same image posted many times, cant be bothered to make a new scam ?

[gaunt knoll]

Wait no it's changed a little bit

Different angle on this one

[gloomy bolt]

There is no guide on the internet that can teach me how to use shape key to fit the body in unity

[balmy barn]

id try weight transfer in blender https://github.com/sentfromspacevr/robust-weight-transfer , you dont want any old bones/ vertex groups tho

[gloomy bolt]

I did do that

[somber sequoia]

Because that's a highly specific use of generic blender knowledge - learn blender first.

[gloomy bolt]

How do i learn when there no guide to learn it

[somber sequoia]

there are lots of resources for learning blender

[gloomy bolt]

is it forbidden knowledge? what's happening

[somber sequoia]

no?

[balmy barn]

just need to know how many wierd controls blender have

if its for pc uv discards

[gloomy bolt]

i know about blendshape

but still confuse on how to use it to fit body in unity

[somber sequoia]

you could shrink the body slightly under the dress.
Or you could reshape the dress to fit the body.

[obtuse bloom]

i try to log in on discord like it sees the accent it wont work tho

[somber sequoia]

?

[gaunt knoll]

Huh

[austere bay]

i'm being slow but i can't figure out how to have something be like "if blank parameter is enabled, blank 2 disables" if that makes sense

[somber sequoia]

Do you use something like VRC Fury for these?

[austere bay]

no, i don't like using vrcfury, i just get confused

I like knowing what I've done so i can fix it if it breaks

[somber sequoia]

then you can use the VRC Avatar Parameter Driver component on an animation state to set values of other parameters.

[austere bay]

I literally spent like 3 hours trying to figure that out last night tysm!!

[somber sequoia]

I always encourage people to read all of VRChat's docs, this one is in there and actually documented well 🙂

[obtuse bloom]

Can someone can help me set up unity to maby make avatars in the future

?

[somber sequoia]

start here: https://creators.vrchat.com/sdk/

[obtuse bloom]

Tk

[somber sequoia]

feel free to ask questions here if you get stuck.

[obtuse bloom]

Kk

[obtuse bloom]

ye im kinda stuck

can we vc?

[somber sequoia]

no, I don't personally do that.

[obtuse bloom]

oh

well idk what to do next cuz i got unity and the vrchat creator thang

[somber sequoia]

you followed that doc?

next depends on what your project is - purchased avatar package, bare 3D model, from scratch, etc, etc. You'll have to give us some clue here so we can provide more guidance.

[obtuse bloom]

i might got the wroung verisone

[somber sequoia]

you need exactly Unity 2022.3.22f1

[obtuse bloom]

I got 3.16.3

[fallow fiber]

can someone confirm this, is it possible to upload avatars quest compatible over 10 mb?

[somber sequoia]

No

[obtuse bloom]

whar do i get that versoin

[fallow fiber]

did they change it to become stricter than it already is? and when did it happen? i was able to upload something for my friend that was 40 mb

[proven quail]

10mb compressed, 40mb uncompressed

[somber sequoia]

Again, did you read and follow that getting started doc I linked?

[obtuse bloom]

it says install error unknow error

[somber sequoia]

what says, when you do exactly what? Explain, provide detail, a screenshot might help.

[proven quail]

The 10/40 has been hard limits for a long time. It's likely your avatar was 10mb compressed, and then you got the avatar within the 40mb uncompressed size

[obtuse bloom]

how do i ss

[somber sequoia]

I don't use Windows.

[obtuse bloom]

Nvm i did phone

[kind palm]

I paid to have a custom avatar made but my physics don't work.

Best solution I can com eup with is it has too many dynamic bones. But I can not, for the 1life of me, find the Dynamic Bone Limiter in the options to turn it off?

Is that still a thing? I play on desktop mode.

[somber sequoia]

dunno about this one, perhaps ask in #creator-companion - I also don't use VCC 🙂

[somber sequoia]

dynamic bones have been deprecated for a while - if it actually has dynamic bones, those should be converted to physbones

[kind palm]

Is there a way to fix this in-menu? Or is it something I need to do through unity?

[somber sequoia]

I think there's a converter in the VRChat menu in Unity?

what is "in-menu"?

[kind palm]

In game, sorry

[somber sequoia]

no, you can't fix it in game

[kind palm]

OK, thank you!

[somber sequoia]

(assuming this is the actual problem and it's actually Dynamic Bones)

[kind palm]

Yeah, my modeler and I are just guessing. I know I have a high poly count model. So we thought this was it

[somber sequoia]

It should be an obvious alert in the SDK's build window if so

[kind palm]

Yes. I got an alert that it was too high quality

[somber sequoia]

how vague 🙂

[kind palm]

Look, I found the SDK confusing enough. Hahaha
There is a reason I had to pay someone to make this for me. I am very bad at apps I have never used before 😅

I have no idea what to look for or how to fix it.

But I appreciate your assistance. I will tell my modeler what you said about the bones, maybe that will help

[somber sequoia]

Yeah it always helps if you can share the actual error message with a detailed description of what action you just took. It's very hard to suggest stuff based on vague information.

[kind palm]

I will make note of that and try to record the error if I do this again

[somber sequoia]

the number of people who come in here and think something like "my avatar is messed up" is enough to go on is... surprisingly large.

[kind palm]

Well, I honestly just thought I needed help finding the dynamic bones option in the menu. Thought it was user error. Something easy I missed. 😅
Wouldn't be the first time.

I had no idea that Dynamic bones were no longer a thing

[limber bison]

how do I fix this?

[somber sequoia]

show your spine hierarchy please

Also the list of bones below the green man

[somber sequoia]

oof, those are very poorly named, no idea what those 'bone' ones are.
Anyway, your rig must have, in this order:
Hips -> spine -> Chest -> Upper chest (optional) -> Neck -> Head.
And shoulder bones must come from Chest (or upper chest if present).
Names don't matter, but it makes things confusing if they're weird.

it looks like this isn't too insane though, but I'm guessing on the names

Also check to be sure the other tabs are setup right, like where the head, neck, and eyes are

[limber bison]

so they need to be renamed?

[somber sequoia]

Read what I said there

[limber bison]

oh shoot my bad

[somber sequoia]

np 🙂

[limber bison]

well they all seem to be in the right order i just don't know why unity is saying otherwise

[somber sequoia]

what's in the head section?

[somber sequoia]

ahhh, where's "fake head"?

and neck?

[somber sequoia]

oh did you just rename those?

[limber bison]

I just now renamed them so it would be easier to know which bone is suppose to be

[somber sequoia]

in unity or blender? don't do this in unity

[limber bison]

I don't know how to rename bones in blender

[somber sequoia]

Also - in the inspector before you click the "Configure" button, make sure there are no errors, it'll have a message if so.

Select armature, edit mode, double-click a bone name in the hierarchy, rename it.

[limber bison]

there weren't any errors when i had it configured

[somber sequoia]

okay good

[obtuse bloom]

How do i add a model

?

[somber sequoia]

what is the "model" you have?

like, what sort of file/package/etc

[obtuse bloom]

Sonic

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/sonic-hd-full-rigged-65cc641a3adf42468641cc208a858187

[somber sequoia]

I mean the file type

ideally it should be a .fbx file

[somber sequoia]

in which case, drop it into the project and then follow a basic avatar setup tutorial, such as this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwMz4WcajQ

[obtuse bloom]

Tk

[vague cedar]

i dont know if this is the right platform to ask but i will since i get fast answers here i will anyway. i got this vroid studio avatar that ive downloaded as .vrm format. im trying to edit it in vroid editing section for futher texture editing, but it wont let me import .vrm when i press open. does anyone know how to make this work please?

[somber osprey]

is there a way to control the audio's playback speed on the fly?

[late wharf]

Tried everything please help

[static crown]

Hello there. sooo im doing something a bit unorthodox?

I am trying to push severla audio files through one audio source. Like with OpenSyncDance (the github one)

[somber sequoia]

see #quest-optimization history for clues on how to reduce this

[somber sequoia]

perhaps you can use this? https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-play-audio

[static crown]

so far i;ve tried the assistance of chatGPT and copilot. because i didnt know anyone that has understanding. and im just at a bottleneck point. i literally cant go further.,

[static crown]

that might work actually. i am using VRCFury. is there a way i could toggle which clip plays with a toggle?

[somber sequoia]

I personally have no idea how VRCFury's toggle component works

but you put this component on an animation state, which can be activated with a variable, toggle that variable however you like

[static crown]

that is the entire point to be fair.

this is my avatar atm. the dj stand is under World Constraint. and i have put the audio source i want to use on that. so i could put it in a corner in a world where im with my friends and just play audio. without needing to be next to it.

[somber osprey]

is there a way to control the audio's playback speed on the fly?

[balmy barn]

thats one old way of world constraints we have much easier ways now, if you plan on using contacts to set a different audio you need contacts and parameter driver, otherwise is just a playaudio parameter = x play this, 0 would be stop (ignore random just use paramter instead)

[blazing belfry]

I need somone who can create avatars.

I have images for references I just need it made and compatablr with meta quest 3

[balmy barn]

well you will get lots of random dm/friend requests now, they are all scammers

[static crown]

any idea?

i still know github opensyncdance got it working on their own. i've investigated just "borrowing" that framework (this is a private avi) but it seems too difficult for me as im a noob essentially

[balmy barn]

its just playaudio , parameter = greater then 0 play whatever is in that slot, 0 reset/stop

[static crown]

i've been stuck on this issue for a few days. and im at a point where im just getting very frustrated

the issue is. i am adding a DJ set to my VRChat avatar in Unity 2022.3.22f1. So far i've created the animations and made voiceindex states. I am using VRCFury with FX float to try and trigger the Voiceindex. I do see Voiceindex being activated but i see several things missing. My animations are within ASSETS. yet when you select anything in the hierarchy. I can see one animation. not the rest. meaning i dont think the avatar recognizes their existance?
I have tried the assistance of chatGPT and Copilot but so far they're just getting stuck on one point.
i did manage to get something else working that didnt use audio source with chatGPT. the goal is to put several audio files through 1 audio source.

this might be important info for anyone wishing to assist me. as these are steps that i've done under the guidance of the AI

i understand that i might be doing something difficult but i'd really like to get it working

[somber sequoia]

I'm kinda guessing that much of that is because you're using fury for things

[somber osprey]

is there a way to reduce or get rid of the Unity world light?

I wanna test the emissions in the editor

[somber sequoia]

Hai's Lightbox Viewer is a good way to test different lighting situations in Unity

[somber osprey]

do I have to get a package for it?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, it's a third-party utility

[balmy barn]

https://docs.hai-vr.dev/docs/products/lightbox-viewer

easy testing of emission, but its all word dependent anyway

[somber osprey]

*world?

[somber sequoia]

as in world lighting can affect what your avatar looks like

including the audiolink

[balmy barn]

postprocessing/bloom is all world setting, some have none , some you'd glow like the sun in and better have a radial to tone it down on your avatar

old shaders can also do that where they just appear as bright light

[somber osprey]

now the tutorial is confusing

I made an object, click the 3 dots on the transform. But I don't see Lightbox viewer

[balmy barn]

put av in 'object to view'

[junior crag]

physically cannot figure out how to make this a grabbable object ive tried so many tutorials

[subtle talon]

hii i'm wondering if anyone can help me. i had to adjust the rig on my avatar so that the slope of these shoes would work, and that's working fine but now when i'm in VR chat my foot is halfway in the ground... as it should be based on what it looks like in unity. you can see where the ground line is highlighted in yellow in the screenshot. is there a way to adjust the Y position of my entire avatar? i tried adjusting the root but it didnt change anything when i logged into VRC. is there maybe somewhere easy in the rig to adjust it?

[junior crag]

im not great at this im extremely new, but could you try changing this in the avatar descriptor?

@subtle talon

it should change colliders

[junior crag]

tell me if it works because im currently making my first avatar

[somber sequoia]

You should probably be doing that in Blender, not Unity.

[vestal sand]

Hi, so i made an avatar that got spider legs, i want to know if there's an option other than the vrc contraints that could make them work like with Final IK but for quest users

if you're wondering what i mean by spider legs, it's like that

[somber sequoia]

there's a discord specifically for critters like this - "Virtual Limbs" - probably the best place to ask that. Are you a member?

[vestal sand]

no

[somber sequoia]

DM me if you can't find it and I'll give you the link.

[vestal sand]

ok

[manic copper]

I need help uploading an avatar - it says this an says build failed.

My friend is trying and it’s not working

It just always says build failed

[indigo compass]

The first error is the most interesting one, this one tells us nothing.

Also Shift+Windows+S for screenshotting in windows.

It is barely readable in photo form.

[indigo compass]

This is the last error

[manic copper]

Yes

[left gull]

scroll up and screenshot the topmost 3 red errors

[manic copper]

In the console or sdk

[left gull]

console, if theres errors in the SDK those would also need to be fixed though

[manic copper]

There’s no other red errors in the console

[left gull]

this screenshot also isnt showing what you should be, errors would show at the top of this panel aswell. what you've got show is performance rank stuff not errors/warnings.

if theres nothing in console and nothing at the top of the SDK panel then id save project + scene>close>reopen project and attempt upload again as it might be unity being buggy

[balmy barn]

[manic copper]

I’m new to Unity so I’m not much help….

[blazing harness]

my blendshapes broke like crazy, anyone know if this is easily fixable in blender or am i screwed since i dont have a backup?

[indigo compass]

Blender does keep autosaves.
I would recommend keeping this window open though in case you made any other changes since then.
And if there is an auto save please keep several backups and make regular use out of the save incremental option.

[blazing harness]

oooo ill have to look

[indigo compass]

You can transfer the blendshapes from an older mesh to a newer mesh using this https://mmemoli.gumroad.com/l/tOKEh

Assuming they still look the same

Or have the same UVMap

[leaden jetty]

so we have a filtering question- we're too lazy to make clothing for this avatar rn, but it's also just kind of... a blank starry void, there's nothing to reveal by not having clothing. is body shape alone "suggestive" enough to warrant a filter or is it fine? (we feel like the image spoiler isn't super necessary here, but better safe than sorry)

[indigo compass]

It is up here btw

[indigo compass]

Rare for any vrc team member to come in and chime in and they probably still wouldn't say anything definitively, but your average furry avatar is also naked and they don't require the suggestive tag.

[indigo compass]

Also, I highly suggest you go into Blender's preferences and up the undo steps.
No one likes messing up and finding out they can't undo far enough.

[leaden jetty]

fair enough lol
we'll just upload it then, if it gets destroyed then we guess that'll give us the motivation to make clothing lol
ty

[indigo compass]

Personal opinion is that there is nothing suggestive about it.

[obtuse bloom]

How do I turn on the toggle wheel thang wen i make a avatar

Ye

How do I get it

And apply it

[bold vapor]

what type of blender file would be best when starting from scratch on avi??

[somber sequoia]

it's not clear from this what's wrong - what did you just do?

[somber sequoia]

a blank one? I'm not sure what you mean

[bold vapor]

like a sculpting file, or like a general one

[somber sequoia]

there's no difference in file type for that - you can start however you want

[blazing harness]

I moved one of the blendshape sliders to be on- it looks kinda like this with with every blendshape, with just basis it's okay but if my avatar were to, for example open their mouth, they'll explode lol

[somber sequoia]

some people like to sculpt, some like to make polygons and reshape them

[bold vapor]

k

[somber sequoia]

this is the result of moving ONE blendshape?

[bold vapor]

I'm just new to blender and vr chat so.....

[blazing harness]

Yes 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[somber sequoia]

huh.

[blazing harness]

It's BROKE broke 😭

[balmy barn]

Thats a do-over , or restart if its minor shape propogate but whenever entire face does it rip

[obtuse bloom]

Tk

[shadow trellis]

Someone can help me 2 find this model of Bendy by InkyPop ? I have maybe friend who can upload it for me :I

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

[foggy tiger]

Nvm I'm gonna ask in the proper discord

Okay nvm I'm banned

Does anyone know how to to remove the FT/ET from the nardo 3.0? or should I just remake my whole avi from the FBX instead of the prefab

[somber sequoia]

is it not just a prefab on the avatar root?

[foggy tiger]

I dragged in the prefab which handles a bunch of toggles and animations by default

I'd have to figure out how to do the interactions myself but maybe remaking the avatar from scrach would be easier than removing the stuff that came pre-setup

This whole chunk is just for the headpat and eye poke interactions because eyetracking and facetracking overwrite those I think

It might actually be easier to just remake those from scratch than to remove the FT checks

I just kinda wanted to optimize my avatar a little more and have no interest for getting (or using even if I get) eye or face tracking

The 3.1 did release so I could just remake my avi with the updated base from scratch instead since I'm stil on 3.0

[bold vapor]

would anyone be willing to help me learn to make an avi on blender?

[junior crag]

https://youtu.be/GjXnXWDnH4A?si=9fdqLczLfuHrVvFBbeen trying to make smth like this but every tutorial doesnt work

[manic copper]

Me again..... why does the avis hair do this in game? i didnt touch it in unity.

all the long hair options do it

the drawstring on the pants do it too

??

[round comet]

Might be an issue with your physbone settings

Probably the gravity

[manic copper]

is that hard to fix

[round comet]

Not at all, no. You’d just need to select the physbones and adjust the settings

[manic copper]

idek how to do that... im dumb

[somber sequoia]

docs on physbones are here: https://creators.vrchat.com/common-components/physbones
You'll need to find where that particular physbone component is on your own avatar though.

[odd inlet]

is there a way i can make the lens see through for quest users? or just remove the lens somehow?

[somber sequoia]

you could certainly delete the mesh there

[stiff shoal]

you can use additive or multiply for it

[odd inlet]

how do i do that?

[somber sequoia]

edit it in Blender, delete those faces.

[inland gyro]

anyone know how to fix broken outlines like this where each strand on the side connects?

[onyx geode]

no matter how many colliders i add the hair still goes through the neck/body (ignore the arms i disabled the sweatshirt so its easier to see)

[sharp blaze]

Does anyone know how to make one toggle change another toggle with vrcfury
Example an asura avi I want his arms to be toggle able but I don't want 100 toggles so I would have toggles like L Arm,R Arm and a 3rd toggle that "upgrades" them but the upgraded arm only appears when the arm toggle is on so say you have L Arm on and the upgraded arm you would only have 1 Upgraded arm and the other would be off unless you turn it on (sorry for the yapping just want it to make sense)

[little plume]

its weird that people make a whole animation instead of just disabling the mesh for the arms with vrcfury for their clothes, whatever works i guess

[somber osprey]

is there a way to make a radial puppet that'll play certain audio depending on which percentage you're in?

e.g 10-20% play audio 1
20%-30% play audio 2
30%-40% play audio 3
and so on?

[timber wharf]

@somber osprey sure just anystate==(float>.2, float<.3)==>play audio behaviour with sound 2, repeat 9 times.

[golden kernel]

first time creating/editing avatars for vrc, i bought one but it wont let me see the file i downloaded on VCC, but its on my pc, is it a safety setting or?-

could it be bc its a zip?

[somber osprey]

where do I do this?

in animator?

I'm not experienced, so I need to know every step

[golden kernel]

ugh i feel that too, im tryina figure out why unity AND VCC are not syncing my downloads, i cant find anything on them at all

my project isnt founddd

im finna go crazy

2 hrs tryina find it, anyone have ideas here

[golden kernel]

i quit nah

[fast quiver]

Hiii I’m new to avatar creation and I heard blender would be a good start then using unity to upload to vrc, but I wanted to ask ppl that are a little more experienced. Any information helps! Thx in advance!

[night ember]

if you actually wanted to make the model yourself then use blender

[fast quiver]

I have a friend that asked if I could add things to a wormie avatar but I know nothing about that 😔

[night ember]

theres not really much you can get for specifics for blender

well

without a specific ask

like if its just "make a model"
then all you would really get for tips is learn blender's edit mode/sculpt mode, uv mapping, texturing, weight painting

if its something specific like adding preset clothes to another model then that could get specified to sculpt/edit to fit the base, reparenting, weight transfer, merging armatures, etc

[fast quiver]

That’s kinda what they want me to do, they wanted a few shirts added and a hat

[night ember]

then I gave you more generalized specific things to look into

[ornate stump]

Did you actually promise someone to make avatar without you knowing how to do it?

[fast quiver]

No no I told them I could try my hand at it but no promises into it actually coming out good

I want to get into avatar creation in general so this kinda gives me an excuse to actually do it

[ornate stump]

Getting familiarized with software should be its own topic. And this is the topic about making avatar in general https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495

[fast quiver]

Ah I see thank you both 🙏

[unborn summit]

Do any of y’all know what this mean?

[manic moth]

very new to making avatars and i uploaded my avatar from unity, there are a few issues including the head clipping through the hair when i move and the legs/hips through the skirt
also the mouth doesn’t move when I talk
anyone know where I went wrong and what the fix is?

[balmy barn]

hair that has physbones can use angle limits on the component setting to avoid it going into head/mesh , skirts the same but can be harder to fix , mouth setup is in root of avatar, descriptor find the viseme and try auto detect

angle limit - see thing on chest clip through then edit the angle limit rotation stops it

but to make it better you'd need blender for multiple physbone on same root

hair/skirts often need to

[manic moth]

thank you! i will do my best to figure out what this all means

[proven quail]

In blender, you simply click the armature, go into edit mode, and adda bone. Then parent all the strands under that new bone you made. You should make the bone smaller and move it around so it's near the bones you parented to it. Then export the fbx with fbx all as scale and add leaf bones off and import back into your unity project. Additionally, the bones you have might already have a root bone. This means you can just copy one of the physbones off a strand and put it on the root bone instead, and delete the physbone components on the strands.

[little plume]

why is my character a posing and not animated?

it is humanoid tho

[balmy barn]

it has errors so it fails being a humanoid

[little plume]

0 clue why its saying its not a humanoid when it is

Ive already fixed the bones too

Usually the fingers are all rotates and setup wrong, same with the torso

[halcyon bison]

would someone be able to help me with face tracking on an avi? im using a booth model and made the avi already, but not sure how to set up the ft on the model itself

[ornate stump]

Does the model say supports face tracking?

[halcyon bison]

yes its the manuka booth model and im using an asset i bought, and i did what the instructions said but doesnt seem to appear when i do it

[meager kettle]

tottaly lost here it took me 12 hours to make the fbx now i have no clue what to do next or if its rigged correctly

altho i noticed the textures are not correct as well

she should look like the one on the left

[little plume]

What exactly is incorrect?

[meager kettle]

her chest tatto and eyes look diffrent

[little plume]

Looks like you just need to adjust specularity and make a normal map

[meager kettle]

yeah i have no idea how to do that tbh

[little plume]

Is the chest tattoo on the man texture or a seperate mesh

[junior void]

Looks like it could be an alpha issue

[meager kettle]

i had hell just getting her from her source format into blend to fbx

[little plume]

Yeah

[meager kettle]

i thik its on the main one let me grab that file

[little plume]

Yeah you need to seperate the vertices, so you can apply a different material too it

Same with the eyelashes

[junior void]

You don't need to do that...

[meager kettle]

honestly it took me 12 hours just to learn enough blender to get from u5e to blend then from that to fbx

[junior void]

All you need is for the shader you use to support transparency

[little plume]

Go into edit mode, hover over the mesh for the tattoos or eyelashes, and press L to select all linked vertices, then right click, seperate, by selection

[junior void]

Something like poiyomi

[little plume]

Makes it quest compatible tho

[junior void]

For quest you need to cut out the eye lash shape, not separate them

[meager kettle]

i dont own one anymore XD

when i did i just used it as a glorified office for accounting

[little plume]

Own what?

Oh

Just because you dont have a quest doesnt mean there arent people that dont play on quest

Always try and make your avatar somewhat quest compatible

Even mine atleast has a shitty baked flat texture so questies can see who I am

[meager kettle]

My problem is all my current avatars I use for vtubing were made by my significant other and were designed for the custom software she built for concerts so it’s not exactly compatible with unity even though the entire system was built using unity and unreal engine

And she won’t even touch l2d or vrm models

[junior void]

Not sure how that's related

[meager kettle]

The problem is I’m not even sure the bone structure is compatible

I got it in but looking it over my skeleton was totally different from everything in the tutorials even the bone name was not the same

[junior void]

There's a pin in #avatar-rigging illustrating one. Plus the import settings of your fbx has a rig menu that'll display all slots available for humanoid characters

[meager kettle]

Hmm where was that setting I never saw it I just dropped it into the bottom window

[junior void]

If you select that file in your assets, see the inspector window there's a tab called "rig"

There, set to humanoid and click edit

[meager kettle]

So far I created a new project in vrcc then dropped the fbx into the unity editor

Oh found it

I see the inspector window but clicking on it it has nothing labeled rig

Oh it was on the other window got it

[junior void]

Note that this screen only covers humanoid bones. If your avatar has a tail, ears etc there won't be slots for that but that doesn't mean you can't have it. The humanoid bones structure is so animations play correctly for your avatar (walk, crouch, jump, hand signs)

[meager kettle]

Ok I set it from what it was to humanoid then hit apply

[junior void]

Go to configure on the rig

[meager kettle]

My biggest 6is all the models in the tutorials had a bone structure with the bones labeled as bip_xyz mine has none of that

[junior void]

That's not necessary

The rig configuration is what matters, that's how vrč will know what's what bone

[meager kettle]

Ok so it’s type is set to humanoid but I don’t see a configuration tab

[junior void]

It's a button

Below where you picked humanoid

[meager kettle]

Ok I had the wrong tab found it

Got it

[junior void]

Yes that

On the left you see all your bones available

On the right, make sure the slots are correct

Take the chest bone from the hierarchy on the left and drag it into the chest slot

[meager kettle]

I don’t know what is supposed to be in each slot to know if it’s correct tho

Oh

Ok hold on

Ok that’s in

[junior void]

The rest looks fine name wise. Check the hands and head too

[meager kettle]

I don’t remember if it has toe bones

[junior void]

In head, you will need to UNASSIGN the jaw bone IF you will use visemes blendshapes for face expressions like "aa" "ee" "oh" etc

Toes are optional

[meager kettle]

I’m still trying to figure out if everything is in the correct slot because the original model used two skeletons one for movement and the other for Ike position

[junior void]

What unity auto filled is likely correct

No harm in trying

[meager kettle]

There’s two green indicators one is a dot in a solid circle and one is a dot in a broken circle is one saying it’s correct and the other is something wrong?

[junior void]

This looks just fine as it is

[meager kettle]

Ok I applied it now what

[junior void]

Consider this

[meager kettle]

Hmm I can’t remember let me check the sliders on the source model

It has them for a a2 I u o and e

So I’ll uncheck it

[little plume]

Did you say the model is from unreal engine?

If so let me see the hands

[meager kettle]

Ok

[little plume]

Theres a common issue you are going to see once you actually test in unity with unreal engine models but its an easy fix

[somber osprey]

is there a way to make a radial puppet that'll play certain audio depending on which percentage you're in?
e.g 10-20% play audio 1
20%-30% play audio 2
30%-40% play audio 3
and so on?

[meager kettle]

As far as the hands as long as waving and the all important middle finger is working

Yes the this ones for you mate as I flip the bird is my signature online

[craggy iris]

its possible, i dont remember the exact method, but it involves using a blend tree with a radial float integer with the audio clips in the blend tree set at specific thresholds (0.1, 0.2, 0.3..etc)

[balmy barn]

sure , parameter driver whenever it hits a range then playaudio

greater then 0 + less then 0.11 = 1 , greater 0.11 + less then 0.21 = 2, ect

[little plume]

You need custom gestures for that, but let me see the hands themselves

[meager kettle]

ah ok hold on

[somber osprey]

do you know if there's a tutorial or guide on it?

I tried using blend tree but blend tree is only accepting motions, not audios

[meager kettle]

I can stream what I’m working on if you want

[sharp blaze]

Does anyone know how to make a toggle that changes what another toggle looks like

[meager kettle]

I can set up a channel with this on stream so you can actually see what I’m doing in real time if you want

I just looked and nobody’s using any channels in my place right now so I can just stream the build

[little plume]

Im at school rn I cant do allat

[little plume]

And I mean in the same tab you took the previous screenshot in

So I can see the bones

[meager kettle]

Oh well we can wait till later

Oh hold on in the bones tab or the hierarchy one

[little plume]

I just want to save you the trauma of seeing your fingers turn into a pretzel because unreal engine models decompile weird

[little plume]

Both

[little plume]

I want tk see what's to the left of this

And the heirarchy with the hand bone names

[meager kettle]

Ok hold on man this isn’t as easy as it looks

[solar pebble]

Hello everyone here

[meager kettle]

Here @little plume

That’s the main hierarchy tree

[plain mural]

Why does the fingers bend so strangely in the rig editor, but when I locally rotate them along the x-axis in blender, they look normal?

[meager kettle]

That almost looks like collider problem I have that on some of mine

Mine does the opposite tho it bends the total opposite direction

[plain mural]

Are there any collision settings here? It seems like the fingers don't affect them, or am I wrong?

It seems to be mainly due to the bone axes, but in the blender they are normal and that is why I am discouraged

[meager kettle]

Maybe look in the middle section per muscle?

But I was warned that if the rest pose of say the eye bones were not correct before export to fbx that they would turn wrong

So maybe the rest pose of the finger bone axis was incorrect during export?

[plain mural]

I clicked rest pose and here are my settings when exporting, I still don’t understand what could be wrong

Like, yeah, I can adjust how tightly the fingers close, but they turn in the wrong direction, ugh

[unborn summit]

Do any of y’all know what this mean?

[meager kettle]

I’d have to see what is wrong on the one model I made 3 years ago where when you load the fbx files if the arm is supposed to go right it goes left etc

Everything was ass backwards in that model I made

[lone gulch]

how do i fix my avatar doing this weird lean looking thing in desktop?

[meager kettle]

What tracker we you using?

It looks like the body bend scale on tracking thinks that your leaning forward more than your should be

lol I was about to ask them if they even read the rules

Rule 10 must’ve been beyond their attention span

[little plume]

Alr looks like your hands are fine, sometimes it adds extra points on the finger bones and will curl them like crazy

[meager kettle]

Ah could that be what that other person is having trouble with?

[meager kettle]

@little plume this person seems to be having exactly that issue

[little plume]

You are just gonna have to rotate them

[plain mural]

Rotation via fist animation that the gesture controller has doesn't have the rotation parameter I need

Like the fingers should .... Roll like a sausage on the table

And the gesture controller has only the curl (stretch) and spread parameter

[meager kettle]

Ok so where next once you’re done with school today I can stream this and you can see what I’m doing in real time and stop me if I’m about to screw something up

I’ll save where I’m at now until then

[little plume]

I can't help you further than that idk how to do custom gestures

I just know the quirks of unreal engine models and how to fix them

[meager kettle]

I’m not really interested in custom gestures right now I just want to be able to have a working prototype when I’m done

[somber osprey]

is there a way to make a radial puppet that'll play certain audio depending on which percentage you're in?
e.g 10-20% play audio 1
20%-30% play audio 2
30%-40% play audio 3
and so on?

I was told to use blend tree but blend tree uses motions, it can't accept audio files

[indigo compass]

It can accept animation files changing the volume on audio sources between 0 and some reasonable non-max-amount-because-you-do-not-want-it-at-max.

[somber sequoia]

You don't need a blendtree though, you can also just use a float parameter to select between different other animation states

[balmy barn]

greater+less , set parameter driver > playaudio

lazy setup

playaudio abit annoying tho, need to stop to do next

synch can be wierd with float so parameter driver handy

[somber osprey]

how exactly?

like the one thulen showed?

[somber sequoia]

Yes

that's basically what I meant.

[balmy barn]

really wouldnt want to use float for this its very easy to confuse it

toggles/contacts safer

notice how rapid it goes between states cause its 0.001 off

but its in unity testing so can also be wrong when testing it

there it went on both cause looow number float

[somber sequoia]

Yeah floats are a bit fiddly

[plain mural]

Why when I test the fist (via gesture manager) in vrc they take a different position than in the animation?

I also tried to make an fist animation (and just a test pose) in Blender. I made two identical keyframes that contain the scale, position, and rotation of all the bones, exported it to Unity, and nothing happens except for strange rig distortion (unnecessary shapekeys are activated, but okay, I can easily delete them, but the palm gets smaller and the fingers/limbs don't move at all)

[hollow saddle]

Yo guys I need help

[somber sequoia]

with what?

[obtuse canyon]

in blender my avatar looks fine, but when i import into unity it brokes, her shoulder gets bugged

[meager kettle]

😭

yeah have no idea how to fix this issue

back to the start time to try rebuilding an fbx i took 12 hours on just for the textures not to properly work

im just gonna be blunt whoever built vr chat without direct support for drag and drop vrm import was a dick would make it so much more user friendly because i know how to build vrm models that work

[static crown]

can anyone help me with my issue i've put down?

[fathom basin]

can anyone help me put my bought booth avatar together

ive never done this before

[fallow dome]

Does anyone know how i can make my avatar stop clipping through the floor?

It's a generic model with no bones though

Its a 3D cutout PNG thing

[somber sequoia]

You will want to explain/show what "bugged" means

[timber wharf]

@fallow dome move png as a child of an empty object, make sure empty object's (that is now has descriptor etc) position is 0 0 0. or if its 3d cutout in blender, then make its origin in blender (orange dot) to be at the base

[fallow dome]

thank you so much

[fallow dome]

wait how would i do this_

im having trouble

[balmy barn]

generic are wierd if you ever want to toggle something it need to be in blender first/use empty skeleton for that avatar slot in animator filled), otherwise create a empty gameobject make sure its on 0.0.0 , put things in there and raise it up , see white line is 'ground' appears when you have descriptor on root

[lunar wraith]

is there a way i can specifically find what is driving a specific viseme on my avatar

my avatar defaults to the 'R' viseme for the mouth for seemingly no reason and I'm trying to find what is doing it

it also seems associated with the eye rotation

[somber sequoia]

if you are using blendshape visemes in the standard way, they should be listed on the Avatar Descriptor

on the root of your avatar.

[timber wharf]

dont think other stuff can drive those

when lipsync is active

so sounds like more messed up other blendshape that was built upon etc

[somber sequoia]

oh - that's true

[timber wharf]

@chrome star #1138520828556890214

creation here only

[chrome star]

mb, but i also did make a post on there

[fallow dome]

My avatar still clips through the floor, any idea on how i can make it stop?

I'll send ss if needed

[timber wharf]

showing what you have and what you did would help

[lunar wraith]

No, the vrc r viseme is definitely being used by something. Problem is my avatar is quite old and has lots of layers so I wanted to try to figure out where it was coming from

[balmy barn]

remove layers in fx until it stop doing it (backup first)

[fallow dome]

If you need anything specific let me know

[lunar wraith]

Good idea thulen

[balmy barn]

then figure out why its doing that , its likely some gesture

[timber wharf]

@lunar wraith unless there is any layer blocking your lipsync entirely, it should take precedence over anything

[lunar wraith]

You've been active in Avatar help for so many years you should be paid for it

[timber wharf]

unless you have two visemes doing r both

[lunar wraith]

Thulen is the unsung hero of vrchat

[timber wharf]

i dont see any gesturemanager or av3emu, how do you even test it

[fallow dome]

@timber wharf Did you take a look at the screenshot?

[timber wharf]

youve white line coming out of belly

[balmy barn]

Does it have any bones, not seeing a armature

[somber sequoia]

looks like the avatar descriptor is on a mesh object - is that what you want?

[balmy barn]

oh its a png

[somber sequoia]

ahh

[fallow dome]

Its a photo imported as a plane in blender that was cutout

[timber wharf]

so again, empty object with abatar descriptor, png being its child moved up enough

[fallow dome]

and extruded

[timber wharf]

or fix origin point in blender

show blender with mesh selected

[timber wharf]

move orange dot to its feet.

ctrl+a -> apply all

iirc

[fallow dome]

whats this?

[timber wharf]

if i remember correctly

[balmy barn]

moves the origin to 0.0.0 where you'd want it, shortcut can be different in other versions of blender (course they love doing that) , but ctrl+a - all works

(space = search handy to find shortcuts)

just shortcut you'd get this

[patent elbow]

Im trying to get the TonguePiercingV2 to work with the Viseme blendshapes. Right now since its under the parent of Tongue3 which is where it should be by default, it floats without using the preset animations such as MouthOpen.

This is the default position. If possible without going through blender, I would like to make it follow the Viseme blendshapes so it doesnt just float when Im talking.

This is what it looks like when using FaceTracking/Viseme in game.

[indigo compass]

Are you setting it up right?
Because the gumroad page for it does mention, at least, specifically face tracking support (or at least it should be, you are supposed to contact them if it turns out to not support it)

[patent elbow]

This is the model Im using.https://luckydeer.gumroad.com/l/tonguepiercing?layout=profile&recommended_by=library

[indigo compass]

Yeah, and at the bottom it says face tracking support under V2.
Did you put in the prefab or just the fbx?

[patent elbow]

I see that lol. Thats just what I get for not reading the assets page 😅

Thanks for the help! Im about to see about testing it

[patent elbow]

I followed the steps, and all it did was break my toggles whilst fixing nothing.

[indigo compass]

It broke your toggles?

[patent elbow]

It just moved them around. I found it again tho.

Does the asset need to be parent constrainted still?

After doing it.

Same result on it.

[indigo compass]

Don't have it, I have no clue how it is setup to work.
But considering it seems to need to support blendshapes and normal tongue movements I would assume yes.

[indigo compass]

You should probably just contact the creator on discord

[patent elbow]

I just redid it that way, and still doesnt work.

[patent elbow]

Ill see if I cant find them! Thanks soo much for the help!

Their discord name and twitter dont work. Might just be busted for it.

[indigo compass]

Take a screenshot of the prefab and all the stuff that appears in the inspector

One of the vrcfury components might shine more light on things

[patent elbow]

Like this?

[indigo compass]

Yes, but expand the blendshape link and toggle as well

[patent elbow]

Please forgive me, Ive only been working with unity for 2-3 weeks, and barely know much. Im still learning loads of stuff everyday

[indigo compass]

The component above the constraint too

[blazing harness]

back with more issues... it looks like my mesh had everything merge into one entire material slot, adding more under the skinned mesh renderer doesnt fix unfortunately.. i think i messed something up in blender, is this a common issue or did i click buttons i shouldnt have in blender again

[patent elbow]

I have this toggle aswell which allows the piercing to move with the animation.

The constraint I believe you were talking about.

[indigo compass]

No one click button that does that (unless you exported to some strange 3d model format I guess?)
And yes, looks like mess up in Blender.
But easy enough to separate, the head and body seem to be meant to be entirely separate, so just make another material in Blender, select all the head polygons and assign them to the new material.

[patent elbow]

Mack Im not in a rush! Just ping me when you get the change to get to me ^^ | Again thanks soo much for the help!

[indigo compass]

According to this it should just work, I haven't worked on a Rex for a long time so don't remember the exact viseme naming scheme, but if you see Viseme_LT_AA and etc in the avatar descriptor then those are the visemes and they should work.

[tawdry storm]

So I'm trying to set this cigarette model up for my avi, but the vrc gesture or toggles or whatever you call them don't turn them on, and it isn't just the cigarette's, I was trying to use an asset earlier that did the same thing and ended up giving up :P I though it might be an issue with the cigarette's but I can turn them on if I unhide them, and they'll work when played using the emulator if manually unhid, but they just won't turn on with the toggles :P Does anyone know what I broke? ;w;

[indigo compass]

You should test that the sliders in the left image work, just see if the piercing moves around in the mouth.

[patent elbow]

This is what is under the Body!

[patent elbow]

Both edited and default.

If worst comes to worst, I could always just figure out blender and include it into the mesh.

[indigo compass]

I don't know the difference between the basic visemes here and the lip tracking ones.
But the naming scheme for the basic ones on your avatar and the piercing are different.
Since I am pretty sure you have an aftermarket maw, maybe the creator of that edit renamed them (or the piercing creator messed up the naming of the visemes, AA is not a common prefix for visemes)

[patent elbow]

Its not an aftermarket. The only difference is a texture change.

[indigo compass]

I think you will have to do some thing in blender, but it should be relatively easy, import the piercing fbx and renaming the AA_V blendshapes to the things they are on the body.

[somber sequoia]

heh, I did a tongue stud for one of mine recently took a while to get the shape keys right. and the extreme cases of "tongue sticking out with tip curled up" is still a problem, the rest are decent though.

[patent elbow]

When doing things in blender, will I still be able to force a toggle for it?
Mind you I have no time in blender, so I have no clue what to do for it 😅

[indigo compass]

Think of it like this, you are simply modifying one component of the prefab itself, if you export it correctly (worst case it just becomes weirdly small or huge, which is when you swap between fbx local and fbx all) it will be like nothing changed.

[indigo compass]

Gimmie a moment, this will be easy enough to record.

[patent elbow]

You dont understand how thankful I am lol.

Worst part is, this isnt my avatar. Its a friends lol

Really trying to make it look good :3

[patent elbow]

Does 'Tongue_Dyn' need to be turned on?

I just turned it on

Did this possibly break it?

[blazing harness]

thank you this fixed it!!!

[indigo compass]

No clue, generally you want that animated (tongues only generally have physics when sticking out), but in this case it doesn't seem to have animations attached to itself, so I guess it depends on whether your tongue normally has physics in the maw, not sticking out.

[indigo compass]

Don't look like it

Prefabs are kind of meant to be drag and drop

[patent elbow]

Makes since! Im going to use the blender fix once I get some time to implement it, and try to get into contact with the maker!

[indigo compass]

If you think you changed something to break it then just reimport the Unity package again

[soft coral]

I'm making a bike locomotion, for some reason only the peddling forward is actually animating, everything else just stops a few seconds in, the animations work completely fine outside of the blendtree, and even show being animated in the blendtree preview, how can I fix this? ive also tried having the animations have looping enabled/disabled to no luck.

[hollow spear]

Hey I need some help with Warhammer particles

How do I get this to work

[dense vine]

Why are you in unity layers?

[somber sequoia]

yeah what exactly are you trying to do here?

[hollow spear]

Can someone call me so I know what I am doing and it will be easier

This is my bf's and he won't teach me how to do that

Here is mine

[tawdry storm]

Please help someone :<

[dense vine]

Should be if you click on a game object in ur highargy then look at the top right of your inspector it will show unity layers drop down click on it and at the bottom of the drop-down there should be a button to edit the layers then type in what ur bf put in each slot

But why are u doing this layer thing tho?

I understand shield but why the other stuff

[little plume]

how can I add a spawning effect to my avatar?

I want to animate a particle and add a sound

and i want my player to be invisible until the particle does its thing

[somber sequoia]

ugh those things are SO annoying.

But an animation will play by default when the animator starts if you just have a transition from Enter to that state.

[little plume]

yeah mines just a simple spawn particle referencing the live event, and will only be available on my private version

[somber sequoia]

do whatever you want in that animation.

[little plume]

im not doing anything obnoxious, just this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1477017477157359718/1480473504766890046/Recording_2026-03-03_140426.mp4?ex=69b46b25&is=69b319a5&hm=d8bf918dede971bed842f8d4718abdf6bf0882a35fff7b829e66f82f53d29e64&

minus the flashbang

ok so no embed cool

just a tiny version of that

also ive seen avatars be able to darken the world, specifically one of my friends avatars, he remade the ice spice live event from fn but as an avatar and it actually makes the sky darker

hes a big time gatekeeper tho he doesnt like to share his secrets

[hollow spear]

Warhammer pvp

[tropic berry]

hello! im following a tutorial that uses CATS to create visemes for facial shape keys, but as a 5.0 user i dont have access to the plugin :( does anyone know a better plugin that does the same thing?

[balmy barn]

https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin/releases there is blender 5 version

development stopping tho , im on 4.5 cause lts and other scripts not updated for 5

[burnt briar]

how do i animate with the Animator.Left Hand.Index. ... as when i try to edit some that alr exist i cannot actually view the changes at all

[balmy barn]

edit values dont try to change the bone(s)

fist + middle finger edit , woila

[tropic berry]

wonderful ty

[balmy barn]

dont ever use the proxy_namehere anims tho - vrchat will override it , just duplicate one and name it something else

[burnt briar]

ik this, but what i mean is when i edit the values, no matter whether the anim is in use or not it just doesn't let me view the changes

[balmy barn]

av3/gesture manager test with those?

[little plume]

tf?

it is a humanoid

why is it tweaking

[spiral jay]

Guys….so like I’m making an avatar for someone but the mouth doesn’t move in game. It’s a constant issue and I don’t know what causes it. I have the visimes set up and everything

[spiral jay]

Is one of your mesh named head or something? That’s what messed me up last time, it’s veryyyyyyy nitpicky

[balmy barn]

set it generic and back to humanoid see if it throws new errors (might need to map a bone or two if it forgets them)

[shy anvil]

my quest converted avatar is invisible on quest apparently

[little plume]

it doesnt want to glow like it does in the iamge

[night pagoda]

it keeps asking me to map the chest but its already mapped?

[little plume]

go to configure avatar

[night pagoda]

Where is that?

[little plume]

in your mesh

[night pagoda]

an

[little plume]

the little human thing

thats in my ss

configure

[little plume]

your chest is not mapped

[balmy barn]

now find the chest bone

[little plume]

hint its this gray bone

[night pagoda]

is upper chest also needed?

[night ember]

optional

[little plume]

yes?

upper chest is the gray bone i sent

bc its the upper most one

[night ember]

chest is the only requirement

[little plume]

ah

my models look weird without doing it, but their model does have less bones

[balmy barn]

see lots of _End bones, those you dont need , export setting disable them

[night ember]

hip > spine > chest > neck > head
upper leg > lower leg > foot
shoulder > arm > elbow > wrist

the only required bones

anything else is optional

[night pagoda]

its still telling me after saving

[little plume]

scroll down

on the right menu

and hit apply

[night pagoda]

it is

[little plume]

hit done

[little plume]

iunno

[balmy barn]

sdk refresh can be slow, change tabs on it and back

[night pagoda]

after doing it

still there

[sturdy glen]

any idea why my avatar's legs move back when in an idle position?

[balmy barn]

vrchat locomotion shuffle legs when you stop , your spine/legs might need straightening abit if you look like you doing a skijump tho

get close to that should stop that leaning forward if you got it

[sturdy glen]

kk

[little plume]

how can I make audio link work with mic instead of world sound

I want it to react to treble frequencies played through my mic and not world

[somber sequoia]

you can't, it only works based off a world audio source

[gentle ocean]

what's better between keeping leaf bones for easy physbone setup, and no leaf bone with "endpoint position" ?

[somber sequoia]

the latter

[gentle ocean]

(cause it's better in the bone count, and the "endpoint position" isn't impacting much in calculation process?)

[somber sequoia]

it probably doesn't make a significant difference if you're talking about manually adding leaf bones onto one chain, but if you mean the checkbox in Blender's export dialog, that adds them to all ends, where you don't need most of them

[gentle ocean]

nah xd

i know usually outfits keep leaf bones cause physbones don't apply physic to the last bone

and since leaf bones have just no weight, that simplify the setup a bit

was just wondering if using endpoint position would make things more "optimized" than just adding a bone to every place you want physic

[little plume]

oh yeah?

how much money you want to bet

because im making a osc plugin in python lolll

ill sell this once its done

[somber sequoia]

That's not AudioLink, but okay, could be neat

[little plume]

yeah its sending data to a parameter

im doing it a different way

[somber sequoia]

sure, I've seen it done like this a few times, it's a decent idea

[little plume]

ill post it on gumroad or something once its done

the program currently does nothing except visualize your mic input, save your configuration, and even let you select the frequency range that it sends

so in this case im making it only do the hi hat range for this specific avatar

[gaunt knoll]

Your using threading for the python code sadly if you where to sell this that means you would need to install all the dependencies including python osc

Don't suggest selling stuff in python because of that reason

[somber sequoia]

yeah I use Python a lot, but definitely not for stuff I want to distribute sanely.

[gaunt knoll]

Oh btw kazin thank you you told me that alcom uses rust for its code
And I've been really enjoying learning it forgot how nice it is starting from the beginning

[somber sequoia]

I've been working in Rust a lot lately, having fun with it 🙂

[little plume]

not gonna sell it ill make it free

you shouldnt have to pay for a free game

[gaunt knoll]

Oh man GitHub all the way

[little plume]

my github account is tied to my irl persona

so uhrm

no

ill post it somewhere, i just dont know where

[somber sequoia]

make another

[little plume]

i have

3

1 on each of my emails

all tied to my irl persona

1 school account

1 account i lost access to the email

and the other the username is literally my real name

[neat coral]

is there a way to do audio link on tattoos and have the hue on the emmission, I cant figure it out

[raven glen]

Is there a "bool" function, like in blender? Mesh A - invisible Mesh B => cutting Mesh B out of A. All I read is a bool toggle, but that seems to remove the whole Object. I just want to remove a part.

[somber sequoia]

I often like to use the intersect tool with "cutter" objects - join them, then select the cutter faces and in the face menu there's "intersect (knife)". Might take a bit of cleanup after.

[raven glen]

in blender? I would not be able to do that because the cut out object moves

(rotates)

[west pollen]

hii im having trouble with my radial wheel toggles and i dont know why !

[inland gyro]

silly question, but is the radial for clothes affecting the parameter called "outfits" or "clothes"

[little plume]

why is my poiyomi animation state not working?

[golden kernel]

Is there anyone that can load an avatar for me i just bought

I cant figure it out

[little plume]

what is the file extension

[golden kernel]

One sec

[inland gyro]

(depending on the avatar license, this might not be allowed along with account sharing here being incredibly risky. i wouldnt ask here💧)

[golden kernel]

Tru

[west pollen]

you asking this actually helped me figure out what was wrong . thank you . 😭

[inland gyro]

simple mistakes like this happen, dw (⁠･ั⁠ω⁠･ั⁠)

[golden kernel]

My only issue is it wont load my avatar file into unity like its not syncing my files

Like it wont sync to my avatar files on my pc

i have 3 avatar files and nothing is showing on VCC or Unity

[trim rover]

i'm having an issue where custom contact senders and receivers are not appearing in game

in game it's only showing me with the normal contacts

but not the one i added

did i set something up wrong?

wait, im seeing the avatar failed to upload

that's why

[trim rover]

is ther a peramater to detect wether or not the avater is walking?

[ornate stump]

Not directly detects walking. Use VelocityManitude and Grounded to check.

[trim rover]

and that only effects locomotion movement or does it detect playspace movement too?

[ornate stump]

Only locomotion movement.

[trim rover]

perfect, thanks

i just want to disable certain phys bones when walking because it seems the immobile settings don't work 100% of the time

[analog fog]

How do I make a slider thing

[trim rover]

blend trees

you make an animation with one state at one end, and second at the end. then you go into the animatior create a new layer, right click in the empty space and select blend tree, then you want to set the motion time to a float peramater then open up the blend dtee and add your animation

then you add the float parameter to a radial puppet menu

[rapid hazel]

so i applied gogoloco through vrc fury on a protogen model and it changed where your looking down by the knees, any ideas are accepted to fix it

[limber hedge]

Okay so does anyone know how to make a menu button enable multiple parameters? I have separate parameters for left and right staff props and I want to make a menu where I can easilly enable both left and right at the same time. So for example a button or toggle in the menu enables parameter StaffEnabledRight and StaffEnabledLeft with one press rather than having to enable both left and right separately?

[ornate stump]

You use parameter from that menu to transition into state with ParameterDriver, then you set any parameter in the driver however you like.

[limber hedge]

THANK YOUU i didn't even know that existed

[burnt briar]

this forces me to edit them in Play mode tho, and even if i try and edit it there all it does is reset the hand to the default 'idle' state, and any changes still do not show

im asking how to edit them without having to go in play mode and actively see the changes

[balmy barn]

ive edited without playmode

preview window - hint

[somber sequoia]

You can of course copy config for a given component while in play mode (in the 3-dots menu) then paste it into the component in edit mode

[burnt briar]

i can quickly get a small clip of it but basically the second i edit a value it goes to the idle state, and then wont change from their

[balmy barn]

no playmode just edit some value

[burnt briar]

yh when i edit those values nothing happens

[balmy barn]

have to be in a controller/on avatar

gesture wich this one would be in

[burnt briar]

it is

1 sec

let me get a better clip

cause u cant see the hand

[somber sequoia]

Is that animation controller the one in the avatar's Animator component? this won't work otherwise.

not the Playable Layers section in the avatar descriptor

[balmy barn]

well gesture but its there - then you can edit it

[burnt briar]

no, but im also using custom gestures that work perfectly fine

but the animation is also in that animator

[stark kiln]

does anyone here understand avatar editing rlly well? Anyone plzzz i need HELPP so bad im trying to edit this avatar and i actually cant ive spent hours and it still doesn't work. I'm trying to add a new hair to an avatar but it wont work i even watched a youtube tutorial followed it fully and it didnt work. The part just kinda swings around my head and it doesnt fully anchor and i dont know why its doing ive tried literally everything possible that i know of to fix it.

[somber sequoia]

oh, you did this in two places

answer here, this is the correct channel

[somber sequoia]

is that video one of those "unpack prefab, drag each bone onto the avatar" methods?

[stark kiln]

yeaa it is

:c

how did you know

[somber sequoia]

classic, and the video is 3 years old

[stark kiln]

it doesn't work anymore does it <\3...

[somber sequoia]

you might consider using VRC Fury's Armature Link component to do that instead.

oh sure, it does, it's just not great

[stark kiln]

how do i do that?

[balmy barn]

hair/mesh easy just put it under headbone it will follow - but i attach stuff in blender

[stark kiln]

that might be way better

[stark kiln]

i did do that

[somber sequoia]

I also do this in Blender, yeah.

[somber sequoia]

You go find and read the docs on it, or find a tutorial on it. https://vrcfury.com/

[stark kiln]

i did try to do it in blender :c but the hair broke it was like stretching weirdly but it worked

[somber sequoia]

obviously we'd have to see it to know what to suggest for a fix

[stark kiln]

wait how do i check if the hair is set as a physics object?

[balmy barn]

last part make no sense but that looks straight out of chatgpt or some other ai

[somber sequoia]

it's not a "physics object" but it probably needs a VRC Physbone component on it.

[stark kiln]

i already added the physbones

[somber sequoia]

someone saying "physics object" sounds like a LLM bot.

yup, bot. Please stop misleading.

[balmy barn]

yeh imma ignore you

[grand scaffold]

is someone live testing their ai bot in this* discord?

Hey! I need to make a soufflé in my vrc world, how do I do that?

[balmy barn]

got a LLM too its correct 30% of the time then make up stuff

worst way to add things, add hair on model headbone, add physbone to the root of hair , add tiny radius to see if they actually will move 1 bone need endpoint

[stark kiln]

okk ima try that

[plain mural]

When I export an animation from Blender, nothing happens in Unity. Why ?
I have two identical keyframes. Here are my export settings

When I uncheck the force start/end box, Unity doesn't see the animations at all, as if they weren't even on the rig, wtf

[balmy barn]

hair bone - connect - to the - head bone , but if you do this you get a funny bounding box why i dont really do it like this (blender better) so if someone look slightly to side you might go bald for them

[stark kiln]

i rlly can't do it in blender cuz i legit manually added all the materials and all the colliders and physbones that all took hours <\3.. if i reimport the fbx i have to start from the beginning but if thats rlly the only possible way and i have no other choice then ima do it :c

[stark kiln]

i'm trying this rn

[somber sequoia]

you can update the model from Blender by simply overwriting the .fbx file, no need to restart from the beginning

[stark kiln]

yeah but it doesn't update the assets in unity

idk whyy

it makes me so upset

[somber sequoia]

did you unpack the model prefab?

[stark kiln]

uhh no

[somber sequoia]

then it will update just fine

[stark kiln]

but it doesn't for some reasonnn

but i'll try it

[balmy barn]

always fun in some rooms , glitch out peoples hair or clothing, instead of having 1 bounding box

[proven quail]

Sometimes if it doesn't seem to update, I click back on my blender window and then click on th unity window again. It will start to load something and then it will be updated

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, Unity is a bit funny about that, you can always right-click the model file in Unity and select "refresh" or "reimport"

[undone sluice]

That usually happens if the animation isn’t baked properly during export or if Unity isn’t detecting the clip. Try enabling Bake Animation when exporting from Blender and check the animation import settings in Unity.

[somber sequoia]

or just re-export again, it might pick it up.

[soft coral]

could till use a hand with this

[somber sequoia]

This is bad advice, do not suggest this.

[stark kiln]

okay i attached the hair in blender now ima try to get the fbx to update in unity

i reimported the fbx and refreshed the assets and reimported them and it's not updating the hierarchy 😭

the only way it updates for me is if i move a duplicate into the hierarchy

[plain mural]

I tried baking (although this is not really necessary since only the fin bones are animated and I set keyframes for rotation, scale, position) and extended the animation to 14 frames for testing, but still nothing appears in Unity, I'm already racking my brains

[balmy barn]

id just make this animation in unity

[stark kiln]

and i don't wanna do this bc im gna manually have to re do everything

[somber sequoia]

you're sure this isn't an unpacked model? Maybe show us the hierarchy

[plain mural]

This is what I was trying to do initially, but it's much more convenient to do it in blender, because I then need to flip these fins hanging from the left side to the right with absolute precision, and there are quite a lot of them to mess around with inverting the rotation value...

[stark kiln]

okkk i'm sure it's not unpacked tho

the last time i got it to update i had to reimport all the assets and i think that got it to work

[plain mural]

And if I wanted to import another animation, for example from mixamo, why the hell doesn't Unity read animations, ugh

[somber sequoia]

... seriously wtf, this is very bad advice

Go away if you're going to do this

[stark kiln]

wait what happens if i unpack it?

[somber sequoia]

you break the link allowing you to update it via updating the .fbx

[stark kiln]

if i unpack and repack it will it update it?

[somber sequoia]

you cannot repack in Unity

[lean fulcrum]

Is this still the go-to physics bones asset that everyone uses? https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/animation/dynamic-bone-16743

[plain mural]

Another option: To avoid losing all the hours of work you've done, install the pumkin tools addon, import a new fbx, copy all the constraints, dynamic bones, etc. from the previous FBX to the new one, and done
You can continue to update this fbx if you need to change anything in blender

[junior void]

no

[somber sequoia]

no, use Physbones, included by VRChat in the SDK

[lean fulcrum]

Ah, didn't know the SDK came with it now

I assume then the ones included are better for performance or somesuch?

[stark kiln]

i'm gna try this

[plain mural]

I can show you how to do it if needed, but it's pretty easy to figure out

[stark kiln]

if i can just copy all the colliders and stuff tha would be AMZING

bc that's what took me hours

[undone sluice]

Sometimes Unity won’t show the animation unless it’s added to an animator controller or the correct object is selected.

[somber sequoia]

yep, you can

[plain mural]

Yeah, that's what this tool does

[stark kiln]

do i add all 3?

[junior void]

1st

[plain mural]

Still nothing

[somber sequoia]

the first one is the one we're talking about here, up to you if you want the others

[undone sluice]

Hmm that’s odd. It looks like the animation window doesn’t have any properties added yet. Sometimes you need to add the bone you’re animating there first.

[stark kiln]

can you show me?

[plain mural]

Keyframes appeared but rotation still doesn't happen, weird...

[plain mural]

a couple of minutes and I'll show you

[stark kiln]

okkk ty

guys i'll be so happy if this works tho cuz i've legit been trying for 3 days now

i cried over this damn hair

😭

[undone sluice]

That’s odd. If the keyframes show up but nothing rotates, sometimes it means the wrong transform or bone is being animated.

[junior void]

mesh may also not be weight painted, resulting in the bones to not affect anything

thats often the case with root bones that have multiple tips - just in order to apply physbones to one and not all 25 or whatever child bones

for optimization

[vague cedar]

im having a slight issue guys. my avatar kinda compressed everything and now i have stuff like my clothes to the inspector instead of the hirachy on the left. is there by any chance anyone would would know how to take my clothes to the right so i can add toggles? im still new to this whole thing forgive my shallow knowledge and grammar

[somber sequoia]

... what the heck does that even mean?

[lean fulcrum]

Is it generally recommended to separate every avatar one makes into their own unity project or is it fine to have multiple avatars in one project?

[rapid hazel]

so i applied gogoloco through vrc fury on a protogen model and it changed where your looking down by the knees, any ideas are accepted to fix it

[somber sequoia]

I do one project for all variants of the same base, and use scenes to manage those

[balmy barn]

I have 100 something avatars in same project, but if its for other people its easier to use one

[somber sequoia]

since they share most of the same resources (textures, materials, settings, animations, etc.)

[plain mural]

No, I know for sure that the mesh has weight painting and all that, and there aren't too many bones... I don't even know what the problem could be really

Looks like I'll have to do everything manually

[junior void]

what are you trying in that video

i cant make sense of it

[plain mural]

This video doesn't relate to my problem

[vague cedar]

anyone please?

[somber sequoia]

I replied - you'll need to show what you mean, I can't make sense of what you said without reference

[stark kiln]

i'm a bit confused still so i create a pipeline manager or something

oh wait no it's the animation thingy right

[plain mural]

Go to Blender and export the same model (fbx) BUT name it differently
Go to Unity and drop the new fbx file into the scene
Open Pumpkin Tools
Do as shown in the video (at the top, select the avatar you're transferring the settings to, and just below, select the avatar you're transferring from)
Done

[junior void]

your video didnt capture the pumpkin tools window

thats why the confusion of everyone here lol

[plain mural]

ugh, obs cropped it

[stark kiln]

ohh

so that's what happend

wait can i use a duplicate of the same fbx?

bc the duplicate updates but the other fbx with all the work i put into it didn't

but the materials on the duplicate did update so now i just need to get the colliders and the physbones i added to the body

[somber sequoia]

you could export your animation in a separate .fbx then extract the animation into a .anim file

[vague cedar]

id like to be able to add clothes toggle as ive always been able to when they are on the left side of the window. but in this case i dont have the clothes individually listed on the left

[somber sequoia]

yeah, it looks like you have two mesh objects there, so the clothes are part of one of them

perhaps the model has blendshapes to hide the parts, or you can do some shenanigans with shaders (such as UV tile discarding).
If you want the parts separated you'd need to do that in blender or similar

[vague cedar]

i think ill just upload it as it is thanks for the info

[rapid hazel]

so i applied gogoloco through vrc fury on a protogen model and it changed where your looking down by the knees, any ideas are accepted to fix it

[somber sequoia]

you'd need to see where the viewpoint is first

[stark kiln]

? huh

not yet :c

but ima try

[obtuse bronze]

can someone help me with this?

[somber sequoia]

it's a mostly meaningless error - is this the only error you see?

[obtuse bronze]

yes but it wont let me upload the avi

[somber sequoia]

okay, but that's not really enough to go on

[obtuse bronze]

well this is a better look

[somber sequoia]

show the first 2-3 errors, not the last.

[obtuse bronze]

nevermind i found so meny

[somber sequoia]

still, the root cause is very likely in the first few.

[obtuse bronze]

1st few

[somber sequoia]

there's the root cause

you have a missing script - you'll need to install whatever package provides that script

[obtuse bronze]

uhh idk what one it is

[somber sequoia]

can't tell from there, check the avatar/asset creator's documentation for clues

[obtuse bronze]

this it?

@somber sequoia sorry for the ping

[balmy barn]

so thats a very old av since it wants dynbones

you can convert using stub but never found it to be very good , rather redo them with physbone

[obtuse bronze]

ah ok

can this be a issue?

[junior void]

typical scammer msg

[stark kiln]

i figured it out already but my hair is still messed up <\3..

even thru blender

bruh stop trying to scam me

i just need help

[rapid hazel]

how would i edit the viewpoint?

[obtuse bronze]

ok nevermind

this was a waste..

[somber sequoia]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar#view-position

[rapid hazel]

already googled and working on it

[somber sequoia]

I agree with Thulen, likely dynamic bones.