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[thorny marsh]

Uhm, idk what those would be on here.

[spice ruin]

This is what I'm seeing VRCFury interact with, which is not one of the "playable layers," but it still somehow works

[thorny marsh]

I mean, like I said, it's fine when doing a emote once in a while, but if I try to go from one emote IMMEDIATELY to another, it goes...

Emote ends -> Idle animation fully plays once -> New emote plays

Like, the end of the animator wants to play the idle animation once before ending when activated by the previous emote.

[arctic ginkgo]

I'm not sure which animation state is your idle animation, but check your transitions out from it to see if any of them have exit time set to 1

[thorny marsh]

Uhm, to be fair, it's the default Action Layer

Just the original emotes stripped out.

And the idle animation is just the default Base Layer with the proxy_idle replaced.

[arctic ginkgo]

It's probably one of these, I've never actually used the default action layer, I just use the gogo loco one

[timber wharf]

@spice ruin avatar consists of five animators each one reading the same values be it from menu or some builtin vrc params. for your anim you need to tell action layer to stop caring bout your irl controllers etc and just do a body animation, and on top of that tell for fx layer to enable and animate the skateboard. so when both see the same param they play two separate animations that end up as one meaningful

[spice ruin]

Ah okay, that makes more sense now, thank you!

[unborn nacelle]

How do i put make up over the face texture on blender? Can someone help me please?

[left gull]

you'd edit the texture used in an image editor or try blender's built-in paint function though its really not great

[arctic ginkgo]

If you have a texture for this already, you may be able to use poiyomi decals. But if not, you can draw it yourself like lilpimpen said. If you are a university student you may be able to get Substance Painter for free, which is much more advanced than Blender for texture painting.

[unborn nacelle]

Ok, i have the texture yh, how can i use poiyomi decals?

[unborn nacelle]

Ty

[thorny marsh]

... We set all the exit times to 0

That did NOT work XD

Like, I can turn off the emote, immediately turn on another

Then have to wait awkwardly for the idle to loop once before the emote plays

[arctic ginkgo]

If you are using gesture manager, then you should be able to select the avatar and then open the action controller to see what animations are playing. If you then select gesture manager and play emotes, you can see where in the controller you are getting stuck playing the idle animation.

[thorny marsh]

Oh, baller, I'll check!

[gaunt knoll]

anywhere besides gumroad

[strange sparrow]

hey

i'm having a very weird problem

i need to update my profile god

anyways

this part of the model turns black, even though there's no black in the texture

it happens when i use a VRChat shader

like Matcap Lit

not when i use Unity Standard (not standard lite)

[timber wharf]

@strange sparrow vertex colors

toon lite or whatever its called has an option to disable em, otherwise blender time

standard toon?

[arctic ginkgo]

toon standard

[timber wharf]

ye. makes no sense still whatber

[strange sparrow]

how would i change this in blender?

vertex paint? or smth else

[arctic ginkgo]

remove color attribute in vertex data tab

[timber wharf]

#avatar-help message

[strange sparrow]

omg thank you thank you !!! this was gonna drive me mad lmao

[spice ruin]

Ok yeah so now i understand that, but I still don't get how to even make the two different animations on the separate layers. The only thing that I understand right now is that VRCFury is interacting with that other animation controller, and I have no idea how to put the animations into the base and FX layer. I have only used VRCFury up till this point, all the other animations came with the avatar, and even looking through them I still can't figure out how any of it works.

I understand that translation and rotation can only be handled by the base layer, and bone movements by FX, I just don't know how to do that.

[hollow mountain]

Okay okay. So I edited the "UV1" UV in blender to avoid a seam. I altered the textures to align to that specific UV aswell, exported the FBX, using it in Unity, and when I select UV1 for the texture... Nothing.

In unity, the area circled in green should be pure white if the UV was working

It's not even distorted or anything, it's just nowhere.

[somber sequoia]

Please don't ping me for help.

[hollow mountain]

My apologies :<

[thorny marsh]

So, it's getting stuck on Blendout Stand and Restore Tracking which both have the idle animation assigned to them, however, both animations have their transitions set like this...

[arctic ginkgo]

oh it may be that these animations have only 1 frame. Try duplicating the first frame so there's 2 frames instead

[thorny marsh]

But yeah, it seems both are playing the full idle animation before continuing.

[arctic ginkgo]

I'm not sure why, but 2 frames transitions instantly, 1 frame takes a second to transition

[thorny marsh]

Nope, it's his custom idle animation there.

So it's like, a full idle animation

And it seems both are playing... The full animation

[arctic ginkgo]

have you tried just disabling "has exit time"?

[thorny marsh]

Then it gets mad because it has no condition OR exit time.

[arctic ginkgo]

Add a condition then. I have a parameter that's just always set to 1 and I use it for these kinds of things

[thorny marsh]

Here's their definitions

[thorny marsh]

That seems... Hacky.

Won't that waste one of the 256 parameter space?

[arctic ginkgo]

no, that's synced parameters

you just add it only in your animator

[thorny marsh]

Ah...

[crude python]

so i havent used unity in forever and when i select the material for "black" which is her hair she goes transparent and her face vnishes?

[arctic ginkgo]

scammer

[thorny marsh]

So when can I buy you a hot cocoa.

[arctic ginkgo]

hm?

did that fix it??

[thorny marsh]

YES

It now transitions

[arctic ginkgo]

oh awesome!!

I'm sorry mods 😭 these guys are giving you a run for your money today

[unborn nacelle]

why is the body like this, how do i fix it?

[thorny marsh]

Bro got the ussy showing.

[unborn nacelle]

help ahahaha

[lilac musk]

it looks like normals are wonkey? make sure the normal map is set properly

[unborn nacelle]

where do i see that?

[lilac musk]

The normal map would probably be on your material.

[tall needle]

Anyone know if any shader exists for Hatched Manga Shadows? Where it overlays the shadows with lines instead of the usual full colour shadow.

[somber sequoia]

ooh that gives me a cool idea for a screenspace shader

[unborn nacelle]

mmd material?

[lilac musk]

IDK your project. whatever material your skin is.

[unkempt iris]

hii i want the switch to be able to be pulled with physbones, would this armature be ok? i dont know if i need it parented to the head but ive done that

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, I'd make the pull chain bone a child of the head bone

looks fine otherwise

[patent frigate]

So I took a 3d screenshot from a ps1 game but I have the issue that the character is not in an A pose or T pose, how hard would it be to change her pose into a correct pose to rig her?

[somber sequoia]

if it's already rigged you could just pose it then apply the pose.

otherwise.... might be easier to rig it first

[patent frigate]

how do I do that? it's not rigged at all it's a 3d screenshot

[somber sequoia]

ooh that's going to be a bunch of work

[patent frigate]

would it be better to keep looking for it properly in the files or just remake it myself?

[somber sequoia]

I don't really know what sort of file this is or what you might have, not sure how to advise

[patent frigate]

I can share the model if you'd like

I'm pretty sure it's just the Mesh and textures this is my first time trying something like this

and the UV is a bit fucky because one triangle is purple and she had some holes in her head and I filled those but now they're discolored and I'm pretty sure they're not tied to the UV map but I'm not sure how to fix that

[strange saffron]

I accidentally borked my model file in Unity/CC, how do I unbreak it

it is showing this instead of the VRCFury stuff

[somber sequoia]

looks like whatever provides those scripts is missing - reinstall vrcfury?

[strange saffron]

and it is not showing the avatar physics right anymore either

it is the same for all related physics and VRC Fury stuff

[strange saffron]

I'll try downgrading and reupdating

it's still not working

Unity backups showing absolutely nothing either

how do I fix

[ornate stump]

You should see error in unity console.

[ornate stump]

You had imported 2 Avatar Optimizer which is causing all the issue.

[ornate stump]

There are some other packages as well that exists at 2 places.

[strange saffron]

I deleted one of the duplicate scripts I'll try reloading

it's a lot less errors after deleting relevant stuff, but I'm still getting errors

I think this might show the text better?

[ornate stump]

You should completely delete com.anatawa.avatar-optimizer from Assets folder.

Did you just individually delete script files?

[strange saffron]

yeah

I'm now bulk deleting anything that is in the Avatar optimizer thingy

[ornate stump]

You have to completely delete entire package folder you imported. Do not ever cherry pick a file to remove.

[strange saffron]

I'll try next time with package manager if available

in theory CC is fixing missing stuff rn

ohmigosh it worked

thank youuu

[uneven cosmos]

ok so i made a chain of physbones, got them functioning exactly how i wanted, tested it in vr. then i publish it and go to an instance and for some reason it is only grabbable by the person wearing the avtar and other suers caant grab it. i even had someone else clone it and they could grab it themself but nobody else could grab it

is there a setting im missing? i have avatar interactions set ot everyone

[somber sequoia]

there's a setting in the physbone too

[ornate stump]

You will have to make sure that the other players have interaction enabled too.

Actually I read it again, that should be rephrase to "player wearing the avatar can only grab by themselves".

[uneven cosmos]

ok yeah that was the problem thanks

the other people had to set their interactions to everyone

[ornate stump]

Ok right.

[trail fractal]

Hallo people:D i wanna ask. does anyone know why unity won't let me import any packages? it keeps saying that unity couldn't decompress the unity packages when importing. i don't know how to fix this, i have tried everything that i know

[ornate stump]

Usually the package is faulty, your storage space is running out, or the project folder is write protected.

If it's "any package" then it's the latter two.

[glad mural]

Hello all, I posted about this a while back, but I am back at it again and could use some help. I'm going to try to explain where I'm at and where I want to go.

the tl;dr of what I'm trying to do; is a custom sit animation. So I want to lock the legs, but leave the arms and head free for movement. There is also a prop involved and the avatar in question is a dragon so there's a tail involved as well. Here's what I currently have set up

1. I have the animation split up into 2 parts EggSit_Fx and EggSit_Action. For the Fx layer, I have the prop toggling on/off and also have the tail pull in close to the body so it doesn't clip through the prop. For the Action layer I'm using animators to adjust the legs; I also have an empty animation which just toggles off the prop (see attached images)(NOTE: Blending type for each later is set to Override and wieght is set to 1)

2. I have a parameter called EggSit added to my global parameters to control both the Action and Fx Layer simultaneously.

3. I have a VRC Animator Tracking Controller set up on my Action layer (see attached image) which was suggested the last time I posted about this however it doesn't appear to be doing anything. I'm testing it using the GestureManager tool but the fingers still don't move.

4. I have an Avatar Mask (see attached image) which I have attempted to attach to the layer as well; however attaching it seems to break the animation and reset it. Also not sure if I need to populate the 'Use skeleton from' field (also should note for this that my animation type is set to humanoid)

The issue is, if I don't apply my mask, the animation works, but the arms don't move. If I apply the mask, ti's like the animation isn't appied at all. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

[trail fractal]

yeah i thought that too but the package can't be fautly cause its a paid avatar and ive re-downloaded the unity package for the avatar many times and seen this avatar on other people, and my storage still has 206GB free. but the project folder being write protected i would have zero clue about to be honest. How would i check that?

how would i check that?

[ornate stump]

It's usually you put project folder where it shouldn't be. Like on synced OneDrive, AppData, root C: drive, and so on.

[trail fractal]

Huh that is really weird then, cause my project folder and VCC are both on the same ssd

[ornate stump]

Same sdd is irrelevant. What matter is the location where the folder is.

[trail fractal]

yeah that is what im kinda confused about, cause the folder is in the right place. but i honestly wouldn't know, also sorry im still extremely new to all of this

[ornate stump]

If you do anything involving Action layer, you have to use VRCPlayableLayerControl behaviour to set action layer weight to 1, and reset to zero when it's done.

[ornate stump]

What is the right place in your case?

[trail fractal]

I have both my projects folder and VCC downloaded on my D:

do i need it on my synced OneDrive?

[ornate stump]

Never.

[trail fractal]

okay good to know:>

[ornate stump]

I said it earlier you should not put project on OneDrive.

[trail fractal]

so how do i fix the error im getting though?

i can send a screenshot of what it does if need be

[ornate stump]

Any package you said, did you actually try any other smaller package?

[trail fractal]

yeah, i can't even import shaders.

Like nothing will import at all

[ornate stump]

Did you try changing project location?

[trail fractal]

How do i do that if i may ask? cause i have zero clue if it is in the right spot or not

cause i can do that to see if it works

[hollow mountain]

So I have an object that is perfectly mirrored, like imagine a butter knife. How would I have it so the UV is only one half, and mirrors to the other side, instead of unwrapping the entire butter knife.

[ornate stump]

Just try create a new project from vcc and it will ask for where to put a new project to.

[trail fractal]

and i want to put it in the same location as my VCC correct?

[ornate stump]

Never.

[glad mural]

That largely depends on whether you want the design to be perfectly mirrored, you could absolutely split the map down the middle and overlap the pieces on top of each other so that if you add a design to one side of the object it would add to the other side. or you could map it so each side is separate

[hollow mountain]

Namely these wings that are pissing me off. Having to redo the UV maps for random reasons, want to get it like this how it is in the substance file.

[trail fractal]

okay i will try this.

[hollow mountain]

That one bit controls both of the wings, and both sides of them, how I do this ;w;

[glad mural]

How much do you know about UV Mapping?

[hollow mountain]

Basically nothing

[glad mural]

Ok, so when you 3d model a mesh, you can create seams which determine the areas which will appear in your UV map. When you create a UV map; the 3d mesh is basically unwrapped along the seams to create a series of connected 2D areas called islands. These islands literally map how the texture you create will wrap around your mesh.

So, if you have two symmetric pieces of your mesh which you want to make sure are always textured exactly the same, you can make seams to ensure each piece unwraps with the same shape, and then just overlay the islands for each piece on top of each other. Think of it like stacking 2 pieces of paper over each other and then dripping dye on them.

[trail fractal]

It still will not work

[hollow mountain]

I can't get it to be in the same shape as it is in that second image without unwrapping from how the camera sees it. I can't get the camera into the exact perfect position for both sides, etc. ;w;

Also, for the reverse side? Won't the UV island be reversed, so it won't overlap perfectly? Confused.

[ornate stump]

Where did you create the project?

[glad mural]

it will be but a lot of programs will let you reflext the island's shape

[hollow mountain]

What about blender :p

[glad mural]

What program are you using?

[hollow mountain]

Blender ;w;

[trail fractal]

I created the project in my first ssd. i made a new folder for it.

[glad mural]

yeah I believe there's an option if you right click on the island in the UV map (let me verify that rq)

[glad mural]

alr cool that's the one I'm familiar with

@hollow mountain I checked and yes, there is a "MIrror X" and "Mirror Y" option when you right click on the UV island

[ornate stump]

What folder path exactly?

[hollow mountain]

So if I go to layer them over, will they ig snap into place?

[trail fractal]

C:\Projects

[ornate stump]

You said your "first ssd" do you mean you have multiple physical ssd drive, or one ssd drive with multiple partition?

[glad mural]

I believe this would be what you need for that

[trail fractal]

I have two physical ssd drives

[ornate stump]

Did you try other partition that isn't on C:?

[trail fractal]

no, i have zero clue what a partition is.

[hollow mountain]

I'll try this, thanks :3

[ornate stump]

C: D: E: those are partition

[trail fractal]

ohhhhh yeah, i tried on my second ssd drive which is my D: but it still doesn't work. and thats where i have my VCC downloaded as well, which confuses me more

[ornate stump]

I'm not even sure why you kept mentioning about it's where VCC downloaded. That shouldn't matter.

[trail fractal]

cause i genuinely have zero clue if that did matter or not, my bad. and i was told by someone that its better to have your projects and VCC in the same ssd drive for better stability.

[ornate stump]

That really doesn't matter.

[trail fractal]

okay thank you for telling me:D but now i still don't know why it won't let me import stuff at all.

[ornate stump]

VCC by default will install itself in Appdata folder on C:. It doesn't run from the installer file you downloaded.

[glad mural]

That doesn't seem to have fixed it but it did reveal part of the issue was I had forgotten to set my write default state on one of my states which changed the behavior. I have the avatar mask set, and Animator Tracking Controls set and Playable Layer Controller set. However the animation still is not limited and the arms ar frozen -.-

[trail fractal]

ohhhhhhh

[glad mural]

no problem and good luck! ^_^

[trail fractal]

i just checked my appdata and its empty, is that something i should worry about?

[ornate stump]

I'm not sure if action layer can used mask to target only humanoid part because it's usuaully used for entire body animation.

[ornate stump]

Are you sure that you looked in the right location? Why you're looking for appdata?

[trail fractal]

to make sure nothing was in there that might be causing the error

[ornate stump]

Unity unable to decompress package has nothing to do with vcc.

[glad mural]

ah I see, how would I go about doing a parital animation then? Is there another layer aside from the action layer which would work for this?

[ornate stump]

You could take a look in how gogoloco do it. I have never inspected it deeply enough.

[trail fractal]

okay, thank you for telling me cause i did not know that. So what can i do at the moment to fix this error then? or is it something i can't fix.

[ornate stump]

Were you able to import any package before?

[trail fractal]

i did for 2 avatars that worked normally, and then when i bought this avatar and tried importing it, it started giving me the error, and now nothing will import

[glad mural]

I did look into that method but gogo loco is incredibly complex and I was having a really hard time figuring out what it was actually doing 😅 ug sounds like it's back to the drawing board. Thank you very much for the help and if I figure it out I'l lbe sure to update you 🙇‍♂️

[ornate stump]

Does the other project still import any package fine now?

[trail fractal]

i don't have it. i wiped everything and reinstalled everything, and it still gives me the error

[ornate stump]

So timeline is:

1. You made 2 projects and both imported and uploaded fine
2. You made a new project but that's unable to import package.
3. You deleted everything including the 2 previous projects.
4. Reinstalled everything

[hollow mountain]

Since they are 'only' 99% identical they don't wanna snap ;w;

[trail fractal]

yes

[ornate stump]

It would be better if you kept the previous project since we can use it to verify wheter it still can import any package.

[trail fractal]

i realize that now, i wish i still had the project to see but i don't unfortunately.

[ornate stump]

I'm still in the dark and have no other idea.

[trail fractal]

is there any way to check if their is a corrupted file causing it from not importing the packages?

[ornate stump]

https://peraperavrc.github.io/package-extractor/

[glad mural]

if you hit the down arrow next to the snapping option you can change the snapping method to vertices. Additionally, just like with edit mode you can use the number bar to switch between 1 (vertices), 2 (edges), and 3 (faces). You may have to snap them into place manually but using those two tricks it should work

[hollow mountain]

I have to snap the individual vertices and I feel like dying now smh

[glad mural]

trust me I feel your pain TwT (or have felt it in the past)

[glad mural]

Oh, there's also a plugin called Mio3 you might look into, it has a lot of really nice tools for UV editing

[trail fractal]

This just keeps saying error processing package when draging it in

[hollow mountain]

It's 2am, I was supposed to be in VR drunkenly screaming at british people hours ago 😭

[hollow mountain]

How I get

[glad mural]

it's a free download if you search up Mio3 it should pop up, I found out about it from Kokou

or one of his videos anyway

[ornate stump]

Did you try shader package?

[trail fractal]

The shader package works, but not the avater package

[ornate stump]

Then the avatar package corrupted.

[trail fractal]

So does this mean i wasted my money buying a corrupted file?

[glad mural]

really dumb question but have you tried creating a project with the 2019 version instead of the 2022 version?

Unity is infamous for version conflicts

[ornate stump]

Possibly or you have to ask the author to fix it.

[trail fractal]

well the author is Akira, and i bought it from gumroad. But the creator said in the description that anything that messes up with unity he is not going to fix

[ornate stump]

Does the page say it require unity 2019?

[trail fractal]

Unity 2022

[hollow mountain]

Now that I've got that downloaded Ima head to bed and finish this when my head is functioning, would you mind if tomorrow I still need help, I ping you?

[glad mural]

Sure thing

[ornate stump]

You said the shader package works. Did you also import that shader package?

[hollow mountain]

Thank youuu :3

[glad mural]

Any package prerequesites? It could be something missing like Poiyomi or VRCFury or smth

[trail fractal]

I hace VRCFury in the project, and i can't get Poiyomi imported

[glad mural]

bet and hope you have a good rest

[glad mural]

ARe you trying to import it through VCC or manually?

[trail fractal]

have*

[trail fractal]

i have VRCFury on my VCC, but when i open a new project or any project with unity, i can't import anything but the packages work outside of unity annd VCC other then the main avatar package.

[glad mural]

What happens when you try to add a package to the project?

[glad mural]

this is with every package?

[trail fractal]

and its doing that with every single unity package.

this is also a completely new project as well

[glad mural]

Where is the project installed? Is it just in My Documents or is it in a protected directory or something?

[trail fractal]

The blue lit up box is where my project is, and its in my D:

[glad mural]

is that an external or internal drive?

[trail fractal]

internal

both of my ssd drives are internal

[glad mural]

you don't have any kind of security on it do you like disk encryption?

[trail fractal]

i don't think so

[glad mural]

alr, I was wondering if it was possibly either a permission error or possibly some kind of weird funny where it was trying to decompress an encrypted file or something

have you tried reinstalling Unity and VCC?

[trail fractal]

yeah, many times but it still gives me that error no matter what i do.

[glad mural]

how full is your hard drive?

[trail fractal]

i still have 205GB free of storage

[junior void]

does it work on C drive?

[trail fractal]

nope

[junior void]

whats in the stacktrace?

[trail fractal]

whats stacktrace?

[junior void]

the details when you click the error

[trail fractal]

oh

it doesn't tell me anything

[trail fractal]

thats what it gives me.

[glad mural]

How much space do you have on your C drive?

[trail fractal]

62.0GB

[glad mural]

free or total?

[trail fractal]

free

[glad mural]

is there anything you can think of that might have messed up the permissions of either Unity or the proect you're trying to mess with? Like are you using a different account than the one that installed the program or something? The ony things I can think of that would result in any packing failing to import are

1. Corrupt unity installation
2. File/directory permission errors
3. Disk storage issues

[trail fractal]

how can i check stuff for the second option?

[glad mural]

Unless you're really REALLY tech savvy and have been messing with them yourself stuff like installing Unity in a custom location or possibly trying to use a different windows user than the one who installed Unity are ways I could think of. One experiment you could do is create a project in MyDocuments on your C drive (if you haven't already) and see if you get the same errors

[trail fractal]

Is it okay if i add you and you can walk me through everything and doing this cause im still brand NEW to all of this and now this stuff is happening

[glad mural]

@lethal rapids I apologize for the ping, I wanted to report the post I'm replying to

[glad mural]

yeah sure thing

[trail fractal]

perfect thank you:>

[compact smelt]

hello, I was uploading an avatar yesterday and got this error, pc version had uploaded just fine before, same goes for quest side

currently looks like this, Ive tried reuploading

[strong summit]

I copied an avi but the blueprint id is same, how can i change the blueprint id?

[ornate stump]

You detach blueprint id in pipelinemanager.

[left gull]

show the PC-side's stats from the SDK's upload window

[compact smelt]

I uploaded on the wrong version, just got to fix it my apologies

[rigid storm]

Is there a way for me to add a piece of clothing to a model I've already set up in unity without having to re-setup the whole model's fbx that includes that extra piece of clothing? Basically I have a suit in blender that I've already made, fit, and rigged to this model and I don't want to do all the unity work again for the avatar.

[ornate stump]

You could export only the cloth as fbx and use vrcfury armature link.

[rigid storm]

Ah, yes I've seen something about this but I don't quite know how to do it. Does vrc fury have a documentation / guide website I can look at? Thank you.

[ornate stump]

If you search the internet it will be the few first result.

[rigid storm]

Also, I'm guessing I should also export the armature with the clothing?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[rigid storm]

Alrighty, thank you very much.

[dusk elk]

Why isnt the SDK letting me put a name and thumbnail?

[gaunt knoll]

click the login tab and click the upload tab again

its an issue with 3.10.1

[dusk elk]

Thanks

[dreamy gull]

Bumping this! Also for some odd reason I tried putting the viewpoint in the back of the head and somehow that actually SORT of fixed the viewpoint in vr. Only problem is I can see the mouth when I look down. Any fix for this odd glitch??

[gaunt knoll]

i think this might be wrong but i think you exported the fbx and you didnt delete the camera first

[ornate stump]

Is your avatar humanoid rig and have weighted head bone?

[meager halo]

Hello, I have decided I would like to customize some avatar. But I dont know where to search for any like free to use or like free to cusomise avatars. I am looking for male furry fox or simular to it.

[ornate stump]

For furry type, you should look in vrcarena website.

[dreamy gull]

Yes, it's a humanoid rig. And a head weighted bone? Whats that mean? Like weightpainted?

[ornate stump]

Weightpaint.

[dreamy gull]

Yeah! It does

[ornate stump]

If you move head bone, does everything on it move with it?

[dreamy gull]

Nope!

Im thinking the rig or something is inverted because why would the viewpoint work in the back of the head all the way to the outside?

[ornate stump]

Then it hasn't been properly weightpainted.

[dreamy gull]

But it has! I thought you meant in blender

In unity?

How would that work?

[ornate stump]

It must work in both app.

[dreamy gull]

Like when I move the head the body stays the same in blender which I thought was normal for weightpainting :(

[ornate stump]

Did you move in pose mode?

[dreamy gull]

Yeah!

[ornate stump]

Does the head mesh actually move with head bone?

[dreamy gull]

Yeah like when I move the head bone in pose mode yes!

[ornate stump]

What did you mean when you rejected earlier?

[dreamy gull]

What do you mean rejected?

[ornate stump]

You answered "nope" before.

[dreamy gull]

Oohhh i thought you meant the whole body moving with the head bone

In blender

[ornate stump]

"Everything on it" mean "Everything that's on the head bone".

[dreamy gull]

Ooh then yes !

It does

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot how it's look like for reference?

[dreamy gull]

In unity?

[ornate stump]

Preferably both app.

[dreamy gull]

Sure! Lemme get it open

In blender

And thennnn...in unity one sec

[ornate stump]

Also show when you rotated the head bone.

[dreamy gull]

Okay!

And then this is how it looks in in unity!

[ornate stump]

Also screenshot showing the problem when in game as well.

[dreamy gull]

Sure!

In vrchat?

[ornate stump]

Of course there is no other game.

[dreamy gull]

You sure buddy? Hehe

Okay I'll stop lol

Alright!!! So!

Okay so..I put the viewpoint all the way in the back of the head

And somehow rhat totally fixed the viewpoint issue

I can take a picture of the viewpoint of what works for me!

[ornate stump]

If you move it back to where it suppose to be, is it still fine?

[dreamy gull]

This is how it needs to be for some reason..

[dreamy gull]

Nope!

Weird huh?

[ornate stump]

Screenshot how it's look like in game.

[dreamy gull]

Kaykay!!

Thats how it looks in game!

[ornate stump]

And where is the problem?

[dreamy gull]

There is no problem now! Its fixed as long as the viewpoint looks like this!

For some reason..

[ornate stump]

Are you going to continue using this position?

[dreamy gull]

Yeah the viewpoint should stay the same if thats how it needs to work..idk I thought it was odd and wondered if there's a reason why

[ornate stump]

If you want to know the reason then you should move the point back to original position and show how the problem actually look like.

[dusk elk]

how do i move these ear piercings?

[ornate stump]

Do they have individual bones?

[dusk elk]

Nope

[ornate stump]

Then you have to edit in blender.

[arctic ginkgo]

How do you restore objects from an FBX prefab that were deleted? I deleted a mesh from my prefab and I'd like to restore it without adding a new FBX prefab to the scene

[lethal rapids]

Sorry was asleep by someone else got it it seems!

[somber sequoia]

Click on the root object, then in the inspector at the top, open the "Overrides" dropdown, find the item and click it, you should get another window open that lets you revert deleting it

[strong summit]

milfy is completly the same with eku right?

like, all clothes i can use on mifly, it also fits with eku? even it doesnt say it on booth

[ornate stump]

Same body as I have heard. So yes.

[hallow coyote]

how do i hide verticals so it doesnt clip? i cant figure it out, since me hiding them here doesnt stay

[somber sequoia]

verticals?

[hallow coyote]

yea? the triangles that are everywhere

[night ember]

Vertical is a direction

[hallow coyote]

i thought the triangle mapping was called verticles?

[somber sequoia]

maybe you mean vertices? The points? Multiple of vertex?

select mesh parts (vertices, faces, edges), hit 'h' to hide the selected parts. alt+h to unhide.

[hallow coyote]

was only was wondering how to hide the verticles for toggles

unless i just had to seperate it

[somber sequoia]

you could make a shape key that moves them into a hidden position. Or maybe use UV tile discarding.

Separating into another part is definitely a way but it adds to rendering complexity, better to not do that unless you have to

[hallow coyote]

im not sure how to do this

[somber sequoia]

Luckily there is documentation and tutorials on how to use blender

[hallow coyote]

yyeyy

but ive been having an issue, when i move selected spots on the triangle mesh, it just moves everything

[somber sequoia]

it moves more than what you have selected? Do you have proportional editing on?

[hallow coyote]

how do i find that?

[somber sequoia]

top of the 3D view in edit mode, a little round spot button

'o' toggles it

[hallow coyote]

omg thank you

😭

[somber sequoia]

oh you did? aha!

yeah it's a really great tool, but not when you don't expect it

[balmy gyro]

in blender when i activate some shape keys and then go into pose mode, all the shape keys are automatically set to 0 any ideas why ?

[dawn python]

guys i need help i cant upload an avatar from unity

[junior void]

using cats?

[somber sequoia]

you'll need to provide some detail here

[dawn python]

can u help with it then

[cobalt cloak]

how do i fix this bones

[dawn python]

ok what rank do i have to be to upload avatars

[night ember]

new user

[dawn python]

ok thanks

[thick aurora]

Can anybody help me with poiyomi shaders I can’t seem to get them to work

[junior void]

its a thing with blendshape normals. either in unity set them to be calculated rather than imported, use an older blender version to export (such as 3.6) or set smoothing under geometry on blender export to "face" which will fix this too but cause importing to unity to take forever (5+ minutes)

granted, this bit is "morphed" via a blendshape but since its in just one area, i assume it is

[split mantle]

for spoilers incase, how would i make this work for vrchat, i know i need to do ik stub but i dont know how to set it up

[thick aurora]

Hey I’m making the same thing

But I have a different issue

[split mantle]

whats yours?

[thick aurora]

Poiyomi shaders won’t work

[split mantle]

strange, whats poi doing to the model that isnt making it work

[balmy gyro]

yeah

[thick aurora]

The control panel is saying it’s unsupported

[somber sequoia]

help with what though?

[somber sequoia]

there's a poiyomi discord, it might be of some use. Otherwise can you be more specific?

[junior void]

That's normal. Use stock blender pose mode if you don't want that

[thick aurora]

The control panel is saying it is unsupported

[somber sequoia]

maybe you can show that, I've no idea what you mean

[somber sequoia]

oh you can't use Poiyomi shaders on quest avatars.

[thick aurora]

Oh

[pliant ruin]

Idk if anyone found a fix for it yet
But I was wondering about the bug where some avatars will have a visual bug where index people having crab hands
I only saw it happens to some specific avatars

[onyx siren]

Can somebody upload an avatar to my account I bought

I’ve been looking for someone all day

[junior void]

And if that person gets banned, so will you since your account used their ip

Uploading an avatar isn't very hard if you got a solid prefab

[onyx siren]

Really

[alpine turret]

I may need some help.

I found this model of a character, and am trying to convert it to VRC using CATS and the "Fix MMD Model" function, which works for the mostpart, but some bones... Break. If anyone could help, or do this for me, i'd greatly appreciate it.

If anyone is able to help, shoot me a dm :D

[somber sequoia]

Is it a MMD model though?

[alpine turret]

Yes, it is

It doesn't have the .pmx file extension, because it came in a .blend, as it is an edit of an mmd model, but none of the bones have been changed

It has been painful trynna fix it </3

So like hopefully someone with more knowledge on this than me can help lmao

[balmy barn]

rare times a pmx dont like it, try different options and dont use a old cats (below 4.5 blender)

[alpine turret]

ive played around with those options and overall it makes a minimal difference

It fixes the eye bones and the shoulders when i do it but the chest stays the same every time, no matter what settings i change in the fixing

[honest dirge]

anyone know a fix for this?

[split mantle]

question did you have to make a human rig so it works for vrchat, i cant seem to get mine to work

[thick aurora]

I did

I added rotation constraints for the other legs

[drowsy crane]

I imported everything that came with it, idk why this pops up, need some quick help to fix the issue

[hushed osprey]

is hard bc i want make matis in roblox is really hard can someone do my place

[somber sequoia]

you're missing some package, perhaps the creator's docs have a suggestion. VRCFury maybe?

[drowsy crane]

Lemme check the gumroad once more

[somber sequoia]

that says "IK" though - I wonder if it needs the FinalIK stub?

[hushed osprey]

anyone?

[somber sequoia]

anyone what?

[hushed osprey]

i give up i can't do make my roblox matis in vr chat vr no just bc IS WANT MONEY

do you think money is happy have

no

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

[hushed osprey]

just bc you just never want me

i feel like i never use i just useless

that it i done if someone speak of money of me is shut both mouth never stop ask me about money what is wrong

i give up now

[drowsy crane]

this is what pops up, but I already have vrcfury

[somber sequoia]

yeah no idea what script that needs then

[drowsy crane]

fuh

[somber sequoia]

you sure you installed fury in the project with VCC or Alcom?

[drowsy crane]

vcc

[hushed osprey]

i done of vr chat i done of money AND I HAVE DONE ANYTHING

[drowsy crane]

what are you rambling about?

[hushed osprey]

bc i can't make my own is over

[hushed osprey]

DON'T even think ABOUT MONEY OF ME

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'm really not sure

[fresh jacinth]

No one is asking you for money

And also people deserve to be paid for their work

[vague spade]

how do i fix her lashes and brows? this is so yucky

[somber sequoia]

Looks like you're missing alpha transparency for those - is this for quest?

[vague spade]

yes :)

hi again!!! :D

[fresh jacinth]

Quest doesn't allow for transparency, you'd need to put it in blender and cut the shapes of the mesh itself

[somber sequoia]

yeah, then you'll need to cut out the mesh, there are lots of tutorials for this.

[vague spade]

oof

first time using blender

[fresh jacinth]

Good luck then

[vague spade]

tyyyy

[fresh jacinth]

It takes a bit to learn but it's worth it

[timber wharf]

@vague spade #avatar-help message

[uneven grove]

I need help Making Long hair on an avatar have reduced transforms (for quest) but still from root to tip have flowability. I need to keep tail and ear bones too.
Keeping it under 64 bones is ugh.
So if someone can teach me please let me know.

[vague spade]

tyy

i figured out how to make them in unity but they white lol

when i turn it quest the eyes get removed so its fine. its just not an avatar meant to be quest at all i believe TvT

[junior void]

You can easily merge every other bone to their parents to reduce them in blender. Obviously that means less bend points. I recommend cats blender plugin as it has a convenient button to do just that in its panel

[uneven grove]

Thank you I'll lookin into it/

oh just noticed "blender" ahh

[balmy barn]

some other options does bone groups - this is a manual way

[uneven grove]

Sadly I haven't touched bledner in over a year.

but thank you still

[glad mural]

No worries, and hope you had a good rest ^_^

[steel rune]

helloooooo

is there anyone that can help me upload my aviiiiiissss

p pweaseeeee

[somber sequoia]

explain what you've done and where you are stuck.

oh, so you want to commission someone. Head over to the VRC Traders discord, you'll just find scammers here.

[hollow mountain]

Blender upsets me

UV mapping is going well, except for this SPECIFIC SPOT

It keeps grabbing onto random lines, despite me selecting via faces.

Currently, that big blob on the left is me attempting to make a temporary "mask" that I can pin to prevent the thing I actually want to unwrap from grabbing a random adjacent line

Kazin please help 😭

By the way man be careful. Literally just because you said that your DM's will be spammed by hundreds of bots and scammers, be very careful!!!

Oh deleting the message aint gonna help the bot scrapers already know lol

[steel rune]

yepppppp. low on patience, high on the new avis, not a great combo

[hollow mountain]

Hii your awake still! Help ;w;

[hollow mountain]

I get the patience bit. Been working on just the UV maps for this avatar for... 7 hours total, ish??

Fix one thing, discover a domino effect or me just being dumb, fix, re do, do again, WHY DID IT DO THAT?? It fixed itself?? It broke again. And it goes like that for ages.

End result will be worth though 🙏

[steel rune]

oof. i wish youthe best of luck lol.

[sour sphinx]

im having an issue i cannot figure out. im in the step of creating an avatar going from blender to unity. when i try to edit eye look or view position, the tool doesnt show nor does the ball for view position. i have gizmos turned on. does anyone know how to fix this? (the numbers put in are guessing)

[hollow mountain]

Change it all to 0 and see if it comes into view

I've had it before that it just.. is off 500 miles to the west, seeking it's fortune.

[sour sphinx]

it doesnt fix it, im not able to drag the view or eye at all, just type numbers in

[hollow mountain]

Uhh, good luck then, no clue ;p

[somber sequoia]

Heh, I just got one myself

scammer I mean.

[hollow mountain]

Lol

Said one word starting with a C and they flood in

[hollow mountain]

Aside from that, have you had this happen? It's genuinely making me freak tf out

[hollow mountain]

I'll paypal you 1$ to help me quickly ;w;

[somber sequoia]

haha

[hollow mountain]

Genuinely tweaking rn cause of this AAAAA

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what you are referring to here

what about this image is weird?

[hollow mountain]

I am selecting an area to be unwrapped using the faces mode. When I unwrap, it has randomly snagged an extra edge, not face.

The little white line is the random edge it chose to latch onto for no damn reason

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure how something gets selected when you didn't select it

[hollow mountain]

That's why I'm tweaking tf out 😭

I'm gonna do a screen recording and send it

Mmmmmm

It fr just stopped the bs because I began to record it

I'm gonna beat someone

[wanton pulsar]

dumb question incoming, so i got this dp model and i wanna delete the rig completely so i can re-rig it since the rig is bugged in unity any way to delete the rig in blender? cause the rig is like bugged like crazy

[night ember]

I mean just delete the armature and make a new one if you are wanting to start over entirely

[unborn nacelle]

how do i know which shape key is connected to the visemes of my lip sync animations? If i didnt word this right sorry

[night ember]

those are your voice ones

[wanton pulsar]

i didnt mean in blender i meant unity sorry, cause the blender file is too much to handle for my laptop:( or does it go for both

[night ember]

you cant do that in unity

[wanton pulsar]

dang. alr thanks for the help ill just take my L cause i wouldve did it in blender but i cant thanks tho

[unborn nacelle]

ok, ty

[little plume]

is there a way i can test face tracking on my pc?

like i dont have a headset that has face tracking

but I have a webcam

is there a way to test an avatars face tracking funcitonality with it?

[somber sequoia]

You can feed OSC data into Unity in play mode using AV3 emulator

mostly I've just tested it via manipulating the various sliders in play mode

[night ember]

dont think the vrc face tracking osc program supports webcam

[wary void]

does anybody know why I'm unable to select anything from the SDK pannel?

[night ember]

reload sdk

[wary void]

how?

[night ember]

vrcsdk tab at the top where you opened it

[wary void]

still doesn't work

[night ember]

cant tell much from your heavily cropped image

[night ember]

what about the console

[somber sequoia]

I'd restart Unity at least

[wary void]

I did restart everything xD

[unborn nacelle]

when i try to test and rotate my eyes, my eyes leave my face instead of just rotating, why? its for the eyes tracking

[somber sequoia]

can't really see the eye bones in all that mess - maybe you could hide the other ones?

[unborn nacelle]

everything is connected, so i cant hide specific ones, or can i? im new to all of this so yh

[somber sequoia]

probably the first advice is still: eye bones should be perfectly vertical, with 0 bone roll, and the head should be at the exact center of the rotation.

If you go into edit or pose mode, you can select bones and 'h' to hide them.

(alt+h to unhide)

[wary void]

my other projects work idk whats wrong with this one

[unborn nacelle]

my eyes are not connected, what do i need to do to connect them to my head?

[somber sequoia]

by "connected" what do you mean?

[unborn nacelle]

what do i need to do so instead of my eyes going away from my face like that when i move the bones, they stay in the head

[somber sequoia]

mesh moves with bones because of weight paint, and the armature modifier.

eye mesh should be weight painted to eye bones, and those bones should be children of the head bone

Also if those ^ are the eye bones, they are not setup how I said they should be, so you'll probably want to fix that.

[unborn nacelle]

ok, ill try to do that

[edgy wind]

does anyone know why this error happens?

So confused by this it has one T_T aaaa

[somber sequoia]

which SDK version do you have?

[wary void]

yoi need to add a thumbnail picture

[edgy wind]

sdk3 turns out you can add like large photos

[somber sequoia]

there was some bug with that in like 3.9

[edgy wind]

yeah strange I got it to work but had to change file size and size of photo

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

[placid herald]

Thanks!

[wary void]

can somebody help me reduce this?

[night ember]

use smaller textures

[wary void]

how to make them even smaller?

[somber sequoia]

This happens when you're overwriting but changed bone positions or scaling - make sure you use the same "apply scalings" setting (in the blender export dialog) as previous, "FBX All" if you don't know what it was.

"all local" is almost always wrong

[patent frigate]

So I've gotten the meshes, models, and skeletons all rigged up in blender where do I go from here?

[somber sequoia]

you may have to just set that to generic, then back to humanoid and redo the rig setup.
If you go that route, export with "FBX All"

[somber sequoia]

you would do well to put the left one in T-pose, and the right one needs some rig work - see the ideal VRChat pinned rig in #avatar-rigging

[patent frigate]

is the A pose not good enough or does unity not like A poses?

[somber sequoia]

you can do A pose but the legs should be straighter

[patent frigate]

what would happen if I didn't make them straighter?

I've been at this for like 8 hours

[somber sequoia]

might end up weird with animations or FBT

[patent frigate]

FBT?

[somber sequoia]

full body tracking

Yes, you'll have to fix the radius settings in physbones if they're scaled weirdly

[patent frigate]

what about standing normally? since I don't use my index and only really plan on giving them talking mouth textures

[uncut zinc]

I keep trying to use GestureManager to test the armature on this avatar, but it doesn't animate it, it won't move any bones at all, but if I move the armature's bones out of play mode, they move the limbs

All I did to it was took the .blend of it into blender & removed some things off the mesh itself

[somber sequoia]

try it and see....

a) never seen this before, no idea what these are
b) by "fix" I mean go scale the collider sizes up so they're the proper size, if they were tiny. Or scale down if they were large.

[rapid parrot]

how do i adjust the height of that white line

its causing an issue where my avatar isnt at the proper hieght and my head dosn't match my view point\

[rancid dawn]

Am i going crazy or is unity messing with me
Leget entered my password correctly over 50 times, checked my saved passwords to realize that im doing everything right, but it still won't log me in so i can finish uploading this avatar

[somber sequoia]

there are many white lines in this image

[rapid parrot]

whe one that's crotch level

[somber sequoia]

?

[rapid parrot]

nvm got it

[uncut zinc]

Forgor to set to humanoid

[spark walrus]

hey i was wondering if its possible to have my avatar open its mouth via shapekeys when youre speaking? i dont wanna make different faces for different vowels or whatever i just wanna have this one

[untold zealot]

are you kidding me, so my minecraft avatar won't be combining into one single mesh in blender, how do I fix this

[tribal cipher]

Is this what you're looking for?

[spark walrus]

i think so, ty! is there a difference between jaw flap blend shape and viseme blend shape?

[somber sequoia]

in object mode, select mesh objects, ctrl+j to join

[tribal cipher]

Jaw flap is based on volume. Visime is estimated mouth shape.

[spark walrus]

alright ty

[untold zealot]

it won't work, btw I imported the model from blockbench

[somber sequoia]

no idea what "won't work" means here?

[untold zealot]

here's what I tried doing

[somber sequoia]

the scale on your objects seems weird

you should make sure all objects have the same scale first - probably just apply scaling.

oh also - the objects you selected there are not mesh objects, those look like empties, if this project came from some other file type, expand those, I bet the actual meshes are inside

I can't see what's in the outliner since the mouse button overlay is in the way

[tribal cipher]

You'll also want to make sure it has a t-pose as its rest pose.

[untold zealot]

the texture was supposed to load but it didn't

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what your textures or materials might look like

[untold zealot]

this is what its supposed to look like (I exported it from blockbench and imported it into blender

[somber sequoia]

I definitely have no idea how converting from that works, sorry.

[tribal cipher]

I wonder if there is a Minecraft skin avatar base that you can add your skin to.

[untold zealot]

I think there is, but I use blockbench to make the base model and then rig it in blender

[somber sequoia]

you'll need to either figure out how to get that textures out of blockbench, or just make a new one

[spark walrus]

whats this?

[untold zealot]

I do have the skin texture for it

[tribal cipher]

If you got this trying to upload your avatar to all platforms maybe try them one at a time.

[spark walrus]

alr ty

[stoic bobcat]

trying to do a parent and position constraint and i have no idea how I did it many times before, but any time I activate the contraints the position one doesnt seem to actually work, idk how I did it before, it just "worked" 😭

its supposed to stay below my feet at all times and never leave the ground, but follows my foot instead

[hollow mountain]

Kazin me need help again ;w;

Looks fine in shading tab, where I'm baking the texture over from the UV used in substance painter to the UV actually used ingame, and... It keeps smurfing my avi.

[final kiln]

yo can anyone help me idk what this means im trying to upload the quest version of a avi

[stoic bobcat]

try restarting unity and open it

[final kiln]

alr

[stoic bobcat]

did it give you a mb size error

[final kiln]

na it just says failed to build avi

[final kiln]

still nope

[left wharf]

you might get better answer if you show first 2~3 errors
the last error usually doesn't say anything important

[final kiln]

alr

this? i think lol

[left wharf]

you can hide yellow warnings and white infos
but yeah, it looks like some of your animator are broken

[final kiln]

ngl i just bought the avi so i have no clue what that means lol

[spark walrus]

uhm did i break something

it keeps publishing over and over 😭

[left wharf]

i know two types of fixing
one of them is easy, but break some avatar's features
the other is bit difficult and you need some unity knowledge, but this should be an actual fix

[final kiln]

ok

[left wharf]

easy one is just deleting your FX layer from your avatar descriptor
difficult one is editing FX layer and re-create broken state
i'll help you no matter which you choose

[final kiln]

this is just the quest version so i dont mind the easy one since ill be seeing the pc one lol

[somber sequoia]

it's just the wrong variable type used in a transition. delete the variable and recreate with the right type, or change the transition conditions

[left wharf]

yeah, that's the difficult one i said
but it may appear even the transition uses right type variable

[somber sequoia]

I don't see why it would

[left wharf]

yeah we don't know why it happens

[somber sequoia]

uh huh...

[left wharf]

i saw some cases related to this problem few days ago, and i found this old forum (i just googled now)
https://discussions.unity.com/t/transition-x-in-state-y-uses-parameter-z-which-is-not-compatible-with-condition-type/149121

[final kiln]

so uh what do i do

[left wharf]

ok i forgot that you don't know what to do sry
click your avatar in hierarchy and click avatar root object, then click "x" button right to the FX layer in Avatar Descriptor
(i'll show you pic, wait a sec)

[final kiln]

its all good lol

[left wharf]

that's great

[stoic bobcat]

https://gyazo.com/31488e3da31ff046619770dd24c65793 trying to use position constraints to keep these contacts fixed on the ground, ive done it before but idk why its not working now, cant remember what order or what I did to get them to work, they just ended up working 😭

[final kiln]

oh no i was saying its ok i still dont know where it is lol

[stoic bobcat]

oh big L, link isnt working here lmao

[left wharf]

(i'm using a bit different layout, but almost same)

[final kiln]

done

[left wharf]

good, try building again

Dr., you might be replying wrong message lol

[hollow mountain]

AAEAEE

HOW

STop painting random polygons AAA

There's nothing even directly adjacent that's yellow 😭

The ONLY yellow things on this are over here

WAIT

I'm blind

Underneath is the UV for a piece of jewelry.

[tribal cipher]

Yeah I was gonna say basically that.

[hollow mountain]

I feel like the biggest moron and will now recede to the depths of some cave in switzerland.

[left wharf]

lol

[stoic bobcat]

oops lol

im just having an issue with my position constraints not activating right, no clue why but it wont stay where I want it and it follows the foot exactly, when im trying to make it follow the foots position but the contact is constrainted to the floor

[left wharf]

hmm... do you want the contact to follow your foot or stay on the floor?
if you want it to follow your foot, set the Root Transform to your foot bone
if you want it to stay on the floor, place the contact object under the avatar root instead

oh ok, i might understand it now

so, you want to be able to toggle the contact between following your foot and staying on the floor, right?

[left wharf]

^ (i forgot to reply)

[stoic bobcat]

i got it to work

no clue what i did 😭

i think i just locked and actviated things in different orders until it worked..

[left wharf]

hmm, can you take a screenshot to describe what you have now? (constraint, hierarchy. or whole screen including them is better)

[untold zealot]

but also, the texture is loaded, but not fully in the texture paint section

[stoic bobcat]

let me reopen sure

[stoic bobcat]

basically, the yellow point is my contact, its supposed to follow my foot but stay on the ground

[tribal cipher]

You need to go to the top of the paint thing where it says New/Open and click on the little arrow thing on the left of that bubble and select it there.

Also go to your material settings and change the filtering on the texture from Linear to Nearest.

[left wharf]

you have one more constraint
can you show me that?

[stoic bobcat]

works now, it was some order I had to do to activate it i think 😭

[left wharf]

great

but i'm thinking now: (why does he having two parent constraint...?)

also it's good to know, there are vrc constraints now

[stoic bobcat]

one to follow the foot, one to keep it locked on the Y axis

[stoic bobcat]

yeah i know, i swapped to these to see if it would change anything lol

[left wharf]

perfect :3

[stoic bobcat]

it wouldnt matter too much since it wont be on quest anyway

[lament sonnet]

Ive been trying to fix this chain of errors for 4 hours straight, but everyo solution i found online so far is either innacclipable or doesn't do anything despite the fact everythings set up right, and it's seeming like a bad case by case thing when these come up so anyone got any ideas, i am tired lol

[left wharf]

spine is not under the hips, also right shoulder is not there?(it's there and everything looks good lol)

hmm, looks correct then..? try set rig to generic, then back it to humanoid

[hollow mountain]

Using poiyomi pro 9.smth Lighting is just fine in the regular resting position, the moment an expression is done it is abhorrent. Any ideas??

[lament sonnet]

didn't do anything

[left wharf]

hmm... then i have no idea sry

[lament sonnet]

ok guess ill sit and wait for some wizards lol (Thxs for attempting abit tho)

[somber sequoia]

in the rig setup tab before you click Configure is there an error?

[lament sonnet]

nope, 0 errors

[somber sequoia]

oh

you have 'bone' where 'hips' goes

[hollow mountain]

So naming scheme matters?

[somber sequoia]

no, hierarchy does

[hollow mountain]

Oh wait I see

[lament sonnet]

wait do you mean this thing?

[hollow mountain]

In the config you have your hip bone set to "bone", not hip

[somber sequoia]

I mean in your rig setup, 'bone' is where 'hips' should be.

[hollow mountain]

So it's not following the 'chain' anymore ig and complaining? Not sure how the logic on that works

[hollow mountain]

Also fixed by setting normals to calculate instead of import

[somber sequoia]

a proper rig goes hips -> spine -> chest -> upper chest (optional) -> neck -> head

[lament sonnet]

So do this change? Also its giving me somekind of error here

[somber sequoia]

names don't matter, but position des

[somber sequoia]

yes, that is now a problem

Also upper legs come off 'hips'

maybe in your case the root bone is 'bone' and you have extra hip bones - that would be a problem

I'm making guesses from the image of your hierarchy

[lament sonnet]

so what do i do?

[somber sequoia]

rework the rig so it is correct. There's a reference image pinned in #avatar-rigging

[unkempt canopy]

any idea what these errors mean? my project is like completely broken. all the modular avatar ones are missing scripts

[ornate stump]

Is that all the error or the topmost one?

[unkempt canopy]

ill relaunch I cleared it before

[ornate stump]

Make sure that your sdk is up to date.

[unkempt canopy]

everythings upto date

[ornate stump]

Try changing the sdk version to 3.10.0 and back to 3.10.1. This will refresh the sdk.

[alpine turret]

Just gonna bump this gaian

[ornate stump]

You should not use "Fix MMD model" if it isn't mmd model.

[zealous egret]

Is anyone able to help me in unity with adding an asset to an avatar?

Preferably to bc

Vc*

[blissful forge]

im just looking for help on making my first avi. never really touched much on either unity or blender

[somber sequoia]

this is the place

[blissful forge]

is there like vcs for that or? idk what im doing tbh

[untold zealot]

also guys, ctrl j still doesn't work for me in blender for meshing all the things together

[somber sequoia]

you still have to explain what it isn't doing

[untold zealot]

like when I tried meshing it up with only the names without the other meshups, it just won't do it

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what this means

[ornate stump]

What is "meshing" and "meshups"?

[untold zealot]

I tried to combine together the parts of the avatar for vrchat, but it just can't do it, also, here's what I'm trying to combine

[somber sequoia]

Which parts though?

makes sure you only select like objects

[untold zealot]

these, but if I tried to do it, I select the triangles

[somber sequoia]

those are not mesh objects, those are empties.

the orange triangle ones are mesh objects.

[untold zealot]

oh

[blissful forge]

dont worry i just dont know what im doing lol

[untold zealot]

but still, when I tried to merge them all into one, it just can't do it with the ctrl j

[somber sequoia]

when you merge what, mesh objects? that works for me.

[ornate stump]

You can't merge empties. You have to select only the mesh object.

[untold zealot]

this is what happens, when I try to move it out, and if I delete the empty

[somber sequoia]

basic blender stuff - you need to re-parent that, hold shift when you drop it to re-parent

watch the popup when you're dragging it around, it tells you this

[ornate stump]

You should select all the object and use command Clear Parent And Keep Transfomation.

[blissful forge]

im stuck on an avi to chose from i require a second opinion

[junior void]

99% of people crossing this channel dont like to vc with strangers

youll have better luck via text

[blissful forge]

understood thanks

[wicked fulcrum]

Question, I have a spider-like avatar and I put the Spider IK stuff on the PC version but for Quest I made some walk animations for the legs, since I cant put the IK system on Quest, but apparently the animations are only local from what I've been told.

Does anyone know how I could fix this ? ( Sadly don't have any video of it in action on Quest but here's what I got incase it helps )

[grand yew]

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[cobalt cloak]

Is there a way to toggle the entire audio link on my AVI?

[errant comet]

Are you using Poiyomi?

[cobalt cloak]

yes

[errant comet]

Mark Anim Toggle to animate on the material and then toggle that on either all renderers or just on whatever you want to be toggled. This is with VRCFury. If you know how to make a toggle animation, you can do that manually.

[cobalt cloak]

thx

[errant comet]

If you want to make toggles for different things, you would of course change the Anim Toggle on the shader to be renamed and use that property or just not enable toggle on all renderers if you have multiple meshes with their own materials

[cobalt cloak]

ye

[flint dawn]

I uploaded my avatar to VRc and noticed a small bit of the mesh got moved somehow but other than that, everything is perfect. So I went back to the Blender file to fix it. Is there a way to put the new updated Blender changes into Unity without having to redo all that work adding physbones and colliders and shaders and etc?

[junior void]

you usually just save the fbx over the original and thus updating the model

[flint dawn]

:0

That easy?

[junior void]

youll have to use the same export settings

also if you unpacked your avatar, youre out of luck

its uncommon to do that though but yea

[flint dawn]

I extracted textures and materials to get it to actually show them

Like the whole first part of the process was to drop the fbx into Unity, change animation type, remove jaw bone, add chest bone, and then go extract textures and materials

[junior void]

thats a standard unity setup

[flint dawn]

That's not the same thing as unpacking is it?

[junior void]

no

unpacking is literally right clicking your avi and chosing "prefab -> unpack"

[flint dawn]

Oh, ya I wouldn't even begin to understand why I would need to do that

I've been using Unity for like 2 weeks

[junior void]

some people recommend doing that because they dont understand how prefabs work and thus users lose the ability to update the fbx

so yea, never do that

[flint dawn]

Ya I just add all the components and settings I need and than upload it without changing how to structure or anything works

But thank you, I'll try to do that ^-^

[grand yew]

having this issue trying to import a edited fbx of my avatar i dont know what im doing wrong rn

[somber sequoia]

never seen that one before

[junior void]

seen it once, fixed by restarting my entire pc

[somber sequoia]

must be a windows thing

oh hey! you have a human face 🙂

[junior void]

i do xD

[fluid sinew]

Hey, I added GoLoco to my Avatar but it seems to be a little broken. Dose anybody know what causes this?

There's also no text in the GoLoco menu

[junior void]

youre using the digi rex?

[somber sequoia]

ooh digitgrade

[fluid sinew]

Yes, I thought it might have to do smt with it being a Digitgrade rig

[junior void]

well, gogo animates bones assuming a humanoid rig

im not surprised it looks wonky with a digi setup

[somber sequoia]

I admit I quit using gogo loco before I started using digitgrade rigs, so I haven't really tried it here

I'd think it would mostly work though, but I don't know how that one works

[junior void]

the pc version uses finalik

one more reason to be wonky

[flint dawn]

This didn't work, it's still showing the out of place vertex

[fluid sinew]

This is the version I'm using

[junior void]

then that means what you did to "fix it" didnt actually fix it

[somber sequoia]

final IK, nice. I should grab that and see how it works, always interested in improvements

[junior void]

it jitters like shit for me

[somber sequoia]

oh that's annoying

[junior void]

wasnt worth the price tag

[somber sequoia]

the method I'm using is pretty complex but looks pretty decent overall

[flint dawn]

I dunno, it works just fine now in Blender but Unity doesn't seem to want to use the new fbx from where I saved it. Do I have to replace it in the project files or something instead?

[somber sequoia]

Ideally just overwrite the .fbx file when exporting from Blender

[junior void]

you should literally save over the original

straight from blender export

[flint dawn]

I did and it didn't change anything.

[fluid sinew]

I found a "Planti_Leg_Mesh" in the hirachy wiht a removed Skinned Mesh Renderer

I readded it and see if that does anything

[junior void]

that is not coincidence

[junior void]

is it weight paint you changed to fix it?

what did you actually do

[flint dawn]

Okie, so I had to go into the Unity project files and replace the save in there

[untold escarp]

Hey quick question when i wana add dances to my avatar how do i use it? I tried following a guide video but when i whent in game there's no way to actually use the dance, do i need to make a button or something?

[flint dawn]

Open Blender project>move 2 verts>export as fbx (exact same settings and name)>open Unity. That didn't work so I had to drag and drop the new export into the assets folder and that worked.

Does it make a difference if I'm using Creator Companion?

[junior void]

no

so when you exported as fbx, where did you save it

[flint dawn]

It seems to only be readin from the project files it made when I dragged and droped the fbx file to Unity, not the save I dragged out of the Blender folder on my desktop

[junior void]

okay so here is the thing

when you drag an fbx to unity, it will create a new fbx file

even if the save is the same name as the original and you drag it in, unity just appends a (1) to the name and does not overwrite it

so this is why when you export from blender and it asks you the path where to save it, you find the path of your unity project, the path of the fbx located there and overwrite the fbx that is being used in unity directly from blender to that unity asset location

then it wont make a clone but instead update the already present fbx and all linked prefabs that are not unpacked

[flint dawn]

I wasn't aware until just now that it creates a copy of the file I drop from the desktop to the project files

[junior void]

thats why i asked you specifically where you saved the fbx

[flint dawn]

Well, how I have it set up is that all my Blender files and Unity packages are saves in the same folder on the desktop. I then open a project and then drag and drop it into Unity. I thought it was reading from the file on the desktop where I'd dragged it from

[junior void]

negative

unity will always use assets located in its own assets folder, so within the project itself

[flint dawn]

I'm learning still :p

[junior void]

totally fine

[flint dawn]

I've been using Blender for like.. a non consecutive year and Unity for like 2 weeks or so and this is my first ever time in a game engine

Sorri, one more question, if I hit build and publish in the SDK, will it override the avatar or create a new one?

[junior void]

avatars are linked to the blueprint id in the pipeline manager next to the descriptor

so if you dont purge the id, it will replace/update the existing avatar

[flint dawn]

🙏 Ty for your help

[lament sonnet]

So after just going to sleep after this i actually figured out the issue, at least for me because this seems to have a billion case by case fixes wiht no rhyme or reason,turns out i needed to make a new project file.....I dislike lack of logic with stuff like this but im just happy i managed to fix it

[fluid sinew]

So, is there any way I can fix this?

I would also be open to alternatives

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing the easy answer is don't use gogo loco with that rig

otherwise you'll have to do some debugging, what what happens when you're in unity in play mode, see if you can update the animations to not do that.

I wouldn't be surprised if you'd need to purchase FinalIK for that

[fluid sinew]

What even is the difference between Digi and Planti grade?
I mean, what practical difference does it make in VRC?

[somber sequoia]

you the human are plantigrade, so it's complex to map that into digitgrade movements

so there's basically two sets of leg bones, the one that you move (plantigrade) and the one moved via the digitgrade mapping situation, this last one moves the avatar mesh

[fluid sinew]

ok but, if you for example but a Digigrade and Plantigrade Rex next to each other and made them move, would you notive the difference?

[somber sequoia]

... yes - do you know what this means?

plantigrade = human legs.
digitgrade = quadriped animal hind legs

digit as in toes here

[fluid sinew]

Was just asking because I used to use a Plantigrade rig. But I probably didn't notice the difference because I got FBT only after I switched to Digigrade

[somber sequoia]

wait, you have fbt, why are you using gogo loco?

[wind pelican]

honestly it still has some useful stuff lol

[fluid sinew]

For the times I'm not in VR

[somber sequoia]

right but that ^ image is of one of the poses

[fluid sinew]

Just wanted to add it while doing some other stuff the the avatar

[somber sequoia]

yeah I suspect that unless you want to do some serious debugging, you'd be better off not using it on this avatar

[fluid sinew]

aight, no biggie

Thanks for the help though :)

[inner perch]

My rig is not a perfect T pose but all the bones are mapped right, is there anything that can cause my avatar to only T pose in game?

[ornate stump]

Do you see any warning reported in the sdk?

[inner perch]

Only thing its mad at is high tris count

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot for confirmation?

[inner perch]

Heres what it gives me

[ornate stump]

Also screenshot where you put your avatar descriptor.

[inner perch]

This

[ornate stump]

Look for any animator controller and put it in animator's controller slot, just any controller. And see how the model react in play mode.

[inner perch]

Where can I get one, I dont have any in my scene or assets

[ornate stump]

Try some from the sdk samples folder.

[inner perch]

It also doesnt have one and none show up

But i may be able to get one from another asset

[ornate stump]

The sdk folder is in the Packages folder.

[inner perch]

Ok i got one now lemme see if anything changes

[inner perch]

Thanks for the help, but it still refuses to do much of anything. Maybe ill try again later

[grand yew]

restarting as in wiped or just reset

[alpine turret]

It is an mmd model

[vivid tartan]

anyone knows any mayu with dreads/freeform avis

[round comet]

mayu?

I’d say ask in #1138520828556890214 but you could also hypothetically customize your own. There’s a lot of free and cheap hairstyles around

[inner perch]

I believe i have found the issue, I did not have an armature modifier

[tired smelt]

can someone help me i have 14+ hours on vrchat and a vrc account and its saying this

[timber wharf]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[tired smelt]

i have 20 friends and 14+ hours and its on steam but i converted it into a vrc account and it has 14 to 16 hours on it

[timber wharf]

steam or oculus gain rank at a snail pace. keep playing on a vrc account. youll be notified in game of getting new user

[tired smelt]

i play on pc tho

[somber sequoia]

you are missing some add-on pacakge. Perhaps it's vrcfury?

[unborn nacelle]

i want to fix this part of the neck with weight paint, but i dont understand how it works. Can someone explain me please?

[somber sequoia]

still missing scripts, must be something else.

[winged valley]

I’m kinda broke but I have a question, how much do people do vrchat base edits for

[digital roost]

If i have a rigged model that i then stick to another rigged models Head, it makes all of the spine bones move as if they are placed on that first rigged model, is that not a problem when it comes to the movement in game or do i need to do something

[sour sphinx]

how to fix this pwp

[grand yew]

if youre talking about the earings just drag the material of it onto it

[sour sphinx]

taking about the fur being see-through

i have it set to alpha hashed in blender and trans clipping in unity

[radiant steeple]

Sorry for replying to an old message, but did you ever find a solution? I'm trying to help someone with the same issue and haven't had any luck.

[austere mantle]

can somebody help me get this texture and put it in substance painter? im on the verge of giving up

[thin sonnet]

No worries, but sadly we didn’t, the closest we came to troubleshooting it was that it could’ve been his antivirus possibly causing it but we disabled it, or incompatible hardware of some sort. Our solution was he saved his avatar on a usb stick, work/make changes, then plugged it into his laptop to upload it

[livid river]

I'm trying to get this to when it shoots it'll have a 25 second cooldown. Issue is it won't fire until it hits the 25 seconds mark. I want it to be able to fire the burst when I do my gesture then start the cooldown after that.

[night ember]

even if the emission is off the particle is still running

[radiant steeple]

Thank you, we'll keep trying for a solution then!

[thin sonnet]

If you do, please let me know!🙏 ty

[sour sphinx]

someone help me pls, i changed it to alpha blend in blender and transparent or fade and i try to keep trying things but it either is like see-through or it makes the whole hair transparent and is visible behind the hair

cutout has seemed to be the only fix but it looks so choppy

someone lmk if they can help

[rapid sigil]

Currently trying to make a png avatar that talks. I've gotten it to talk, but it'll only do so if im moving and talking. Anyone know how to fix?

[tribal cipher]

Really depends on how it's implemented, as I can think of at least a few ways.

[white topaz]

Having an issue where my avi descriptor says the Rig Type is non-humanoid and doesn'y give me access to all playable layers despite the fbx being humanoid

[somber sequoia]

definitely not humanoid then - click "configure" and see what's wrong

[barren thorn]

where is this setting at?

[warm horizon]

does anyone know how i can get a reset button on an avatar to sync across clients? i made 3 avis that can interract with eachother as in if they touch hands they all change textures and it stays that way until you click the reset button, my issue is i tested it in vrc with friends and if any of us click the reset button its local even tho the parameter for the reset is synced???

[white topaz]

fixed it, forgot to put the avatar into the animator

[somber sequoia]

oh that, so weird when that doesn't happen

[white topaz]

so weird how THAT makes your avi descriptor useless

[gaunt knoll]

make a blink a contact use a contact receiver to drive the reset

[stark vapor]

I need help from someone who knows how to make vrm’s into avis

I am not good at the blender/unity stuff

[livid river]

So do I turn the particle off and when I hit record on the shoot animation I turn on the particle? Do I also turn the emission back on or keep it off?

[timber wharf]

@livid river you dont touch particle component itself ie always on, you animate emission module on/off. ig, cant really tell what youre after

[livid river]

That's what I did and it isn't working how I want it, as shown in the video

[timber wharf]

why it animates gun as well

hierarchy does matter, if any of it disables gun and particle system is its child then its gone

[livid river]

I have a particle prefab on the object itself.

[timber wharf]

still why gun is blinking at all. like, its not even a toggle, what's the idea

normally yud like idk, enable a gun as a toggle then have a gesture to fire with. for slow stuff like a sniper rifle animation of emission ON at frame one, then x frames of emission being OFF for cooldown with exit time 1. or smth.

[warm fable]

Can someone tell me what these errors mean? every time I try to upload the avatar it fails

[timber wharf]

@warm fable top errors, not bottom ones. theres 13, we see 8

[warm fable]

those arnt the ones I care about

I care about the one where it says failed to build avatar

[timber wharf]

red error = fail, then it snowpiles

successful upload is supposed to have zero

#avatar-help message

[warm fable]

those were from when I opened unity I think and put the assets in

[timber wharf]

hit clear and build again then

[timber wharf]

youre missing a script ie probly some asset is not there, check with your avatar's required prefabs list and if theyre up to date ig

[warm fable]

i mean, it says it does require jerry's face tracking but It works fine with the base version

its just, the scene that I got from the person I hired to do texture work keeps failing to upload

[timber wharf]

if theyre sending you a unitypackage then ask em for a full list of vcc packages theyve used in project

like a screenshot or smth. could be smth missing

[warm fable]

oh

I think I need to install a shader

actually I already have it

I just forgot

fuck no thats not it

[gaunt knoll]

whats all of your packages

send a screens of them in CC

[warm fable]

pretty basic stuff

[gaunt knoll]

you sure it doesnt need modular avi

[warm fable]

dunno what that even is

[quiet plume]

Hi. I'm having an issue after creating an animator for the avatar. When entering play mode, the tail breaks completely, "snapping" in half. This only happens in playmode, though. In the regular scene it looks normal. I thought that the issue was the animation itself, and deleted the animation, the layers, parameters and everything related to it. But the avatar still looks broken. Even in Vrchat, after uploading the avatar for test, still looks broken

On the left, the broken view. On the right, how it is supposed to look. I skimmed throught at least 10 Unity blogs posts/Reddit posts/Videos and can't seem to a solution :/

[gaunt knoll]

https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev/

[quiet plume]

What is funny is that I had a copy of the avatar that I use as a backup in case i completely break something. and somehow that backup seems to have the same issue

So it looks like a bug in the software itself more than an issue of the avi tbh