avatar-help

[dreamy storm]

ohh alr alr i gotchu

[junior void]

then in the inspector youll find a rig tab where you can configure the rig and see if the assigned slots are correct. sometimes unity doesnt fill them right

[dreamy storm]

ohhh alr alr

everything says its correct

guhh

[junior void]

you will see the slots be green but you have to apply your own logic here

[dreamy storm]

hmm

[junior void]

even if a slot shows green, it may not have the correct bone in it

for example i had neck be in spine slot earlier and the same issue because of that

[dreamy storm]

so like all the names seem correct though

a lot of it is translated from japanese so its kinda guessing

[junior void]

if the assignments are correct, then the actual rig isnt. on the left in the config screen youll see the avatars hierarchy. now youll have to look whether your shoulders and neck bone all originate from the chest or upper chest if set

[dreamy storm]

hmmm

[junior void]

if this is a bought avatar, thats pretty uncommon

[dreamy storm]

not bought(thankfully)

free download model off deviantart

okay wait i mightve gotten it

[ornate stump]

You should take screenshot for us to confirm it's actually correct.

[dreamy storm]

hang on

[junior void]

Take a picture of the whole window so we can see the bones on the left too

just to confirm

Obviously expand the hierarchy so we actually see the neck xD

[dreamy storm]

wdym

hang on

this work?

[junior void]

I see "Shoulder_L" be in the shoulder slot but the shoulder bones next to neck on the left are named differently

[dreamy storm]

hmm

ohhh

the “p_l” ones

shoulders

hmm

[junior void]

yeap

[dreamy storm]

i think thats it

got it

thanks zero

[strong summit]

can i upload 2 avatars on the same project?

[junior void]

yes

if you want them to be separate, just make sure the blueprint id is different

[strong summit]

So i just select diffrent Avatar on Control panel and publish them?

[dreamy storm]

zero quick question, if the model had a bunch of extra bones named “dummy-(insert bone type)” or “shadow-(same again)” is that like blender posing stuff? cuz anytime i messed with them nothing happened lol

[junior void]

yea

[junior void]

I have no idea and would have to look at that myself. Some avatars use constraints and stuff, for example furries for their digi legs

[dreamy storm]

ohh alr alr

[junior void]

Since its a free download, it could also be that the avi was made with a different game in mind that requires that?

[dreamy storm]

i ignored em for now, they didnt rlly do anything and everything on rig says its fine

[dreamy storm]

mmd

so maybe

i believe its a model created FOR mmd

[junior void]

are there vertex groups for those bones?

[dreamy storm]

no clue

[junior void]

they may otherwise be just driver bones

[dreamy storm]

maybe

like i said they didnt do anything, but they werent in the way so idc

[junior void]

keep in mind that bone count affects your performance rating

[dreamy storm]

true

[junior void]

as shit as it is, dont keep useless crap on an avi

later you add a tshirt and boom, suddenly youre over every limit and wonder why lol

[dreamy storm]

exactly

[junior void]

i had that happen in the beginning

[dreamy storm]

im testing it rn, ill see if anythings up

[junior void]

in blender you can see vertex groups easily if you want to look at that

[dreamy storm]

my hands are so fucked up oml

[dreamy storm]

hm alr alr

[junior void]

whatever fucked up means lmao

[dreamy storm]

wdym?

means like my hands are super messed up

the bones in them

[junior void]

messed up how

do they deform weird, crankle up, what

[dreamy storm]

ill send a pic hang on

[junior void]

beautiful

[dreamy storm]

so the fingertips curl backwards, and that first bend in the arm is where my wrist is

[dreamy storm]

perfect condition smh

[junior void]

this calls for you needing to inspect this in blender really

[dreamy storm]

ohh ugh alright

idek what to look for😭

[junior void]

do you know blender at all

[dreamy storm]

no tbh

[junior void]

if wou want ill have a look

[dreamy storm]

like the model?

[junior void]

just no promises, if fixing takes hours i might not

ye

[dreamy storm]

i dont wanna ask you to do it all for me

[dreamy storm]

yeah no ofc not

ill dm you

[barren chasm]

anyone know what this could be caused by

guessing try to update the sdk?

[sinful obsidian]

what's the simplest way to set up a multi-gesture trigger? like thumbs up/hand open alternating twice in a row or something to activate a toggle

mention reply if anyone has anything, otherwise i'll ask again later today

also can gestures be used to change the value of a parameter, like toggling true/false

that'd be ideal

[trail wigeon]

so i bought the ToN emote bundle, i also been following the steps exactly how you did it in your tut video, but when i copy the ToN parameters it says its not used in any animation, and when i use the gesture manager the emote slot where you adjust the volume and speed isnt there? did i do something wrong

and i already had the emote manager installed as well

im bout to go to bed so ill respond later if anyone got an answer for this

[ornate stump]

That's a job for ParameterDriver.

[ornate stump]

You could make multiple animation state and transition through them in sequence, and use ParameterDriver to set another parameter on the final state, then exit.

[molten thunder]

ive been struggling with an issue where certain verticies on my models shirt are pointing to the world origin. in editor it looks fine until i move the model in play mode.

thing is i have a previous fbx model where the mesh is similar (i think all that changed were uv layouts and deleting a mesh i no longer wanted) and it works, but only if i take the mesh from the old fbx. if i take said mesh and export it as part of my new fbx, it breaks again. i thought it may have to do with weight paints and i accidentally messed them up without noticing, but the weight paints look fine to me.

solution somehow: #avatar-help message

left is what its doing and right is how it should look

ive tried looking up anything related to models pointing to the world origin and couldnt find anything. in both screenshots the model is moved Z:-5

if i place the armature at z:+5 it would point backwards instead

[ornate stump]

Does putting a new model into the scene work fine?

[molten thunder]

like dragging my fbx in?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

Then do the test the same way.

[molten thunder]

it doesnt have the armature deform on it, unsure if that would change the pointing to world origin thing ill try it

[ornate stump]

Shouldn't your model has armature deform already?

[molten thunder]

when i drag the model in its in tpose and doesnt animate if i hit play, im unfamiliar with making models from scratch only editing the one i bought, manually replacing the mesh within the skinned mesh renderer

[ornate stump]

Manually replacing mesh slot is something you must not do unless you exactly know how it works.

[molten thunder]

i mean ive been doing it forever and never had issues until now

and its only with this shirt mesh specifically, none of the other meshes are doing this

[ornate stump]

That's exactly why you should not do. Doing it without knowledge is just relying on pure luck.

[barren chasm]

anyone know why my avatar says avatar not found when i try to upload i upgraded my sdk i cannot get it to upload for the life of me

[molten thunder]

im not really sure what to say, ive had many iterations of fbx where it hasnt broken anything before, im doing the same process, i doubt that that specifically is the issue

[barren chasm]

there is no blueprint id attached

also it wasnt saying avatar not found like 20 minutes ago 20 mins ago it was a space issue so i optimized textures

anyone got any ideas

[ornate stump]

Are there only 2 errors? Does it have more when you scroll console up?

[barren chasm]

just shader warnings

nothing else that points to anything at all

[ornate stump]

Look for red errors.

[barren chasm]

only 2 red errors

[ornate stump]

Updating fbx itself is fine. But you must have the model from fbx file in the scene without unpacking, and not replacing any of skinned mesh renderer mesh slot.

[ornate stump]

Did you check blueprint ID in the pipeline manager component?

[ornate stump]

Does it allow you to put the avatar name in and a picture in the sdk before you uploading it?

[barren chasm]

yea

[ornate stump]

You might have to try using image from scene first.

[barren chasm]

ill try that

[barren chasm]

new error

:l

[ornate stump]

For that, restart unity once.

[molten thunder]

whenever i try this it never animates, the model just stays stuck in tpose even when i update the root bone to the one the rest of the model uses.

[barren chasm]

unity crashed randomly lol

[ornate stump]

It's just going to restart itself then.

[barren chasm]

ill try that and if not should i try and reimport all packages? via vcc

[ornate stump]

Ignore it and see what error come up when unity openned.

[sturdy prawn]

i downloaded the software for it but it wont let me upload to vrc

[ornate stump]

Root bone only affects mesh bounding box. It doesn't move skeleton bone to other set of armature.

[ornate stump]

Update the sdk and make sure that avatar and base sdk package are the same version.

[molten thunder]

that is confusing lol, how would i tell the model to animate then?

[ornate stump]

Check error on the console.

[barren chasm]

oops this look good? i just updated the sdk for avatars as well

[ornate stump]

Setting the model import to Humanoid rig should make it already animatable.

[ornate stump]

Should be fine.

[wheat horizon]

Im making a model that doesnt need shoulder bones (it has ball joints) What should I do so that the shoulders dont actually affect the body? (all weights are off in blender for them but they still affect things)
It does come with clothes that would need them. When rotated it does this and Im not sure if thats right. This is my first big project

[barren chasm]

ill try it now and see if anything comes up

[ornate stump]

You should make shoulder bones start from the joint center pivot.

[molten thunder]

well this is new, this doesnt happen with the old fbx but also the body mesh of the fbx this is happening with animates fine when animation type is set to generic

forgot to send the image lol

[wheat horizon]

does that mean reverse it? unsure what that means

[ornate stump]

No. Starting point is at center of joint pivot, then the end still connect to the upper arm bones.

[wheat horizon]

Still confused sorry, I really dont know understand

[ornate stump]

Just move only the head of the shoulder bone to make it shorter.

Move it away from the model center.

[wheat horizon]

I see, thank you for clarifying

[barren chasm]

so im a bit scared tho so it uploaded but somethings off to me rn because the file was 700 i compressed it down to 650 last time i made sure all my textures were then mip map and i made sure to go through and lower most textures and somehow its down to 350 what the avatar regularly is. should i be concerned?

a bit scared maybe.

do you think maybe there was something wrong via the sdk version?

[wheat horizon]

Is this even okay though for vrc use?

[ornate stump]

Probably good enough.

[barren chasm]

renfrew do you know if having different sdk's effect the size of textures / files?

[wheat horizon]

ooo prolly not whoops, I might have to find another way

[ornate stump]

It doesn't.

[barren chasm]

should i be concerned about the fact it was 700-800 mbs uncompressed i compressed it down to 650 and now somehow its down to 360 what it standardly is?

[ornate stump]

Move the shoulder bone closer to the arm bone then.

[barren chasm]

everything works in play mode..

[ornate stump]

If you go public regularly then you should be concerned.

[barren chasm]

wdym i was meaning the fact that 30 minutes ago before all the errors the file size was 650 uncompressed

and now magically its 360 uncompressed

[wheat horizon]

yep got it, models are weird

[barren chasm]

which when i started editing the avatar it was 340 uncompressed

i just was meaning should i be worried about the random jump back down when ive added quite a bit of stuff

[ornate stump]

It's often the shader that get compiled into different size each time.

[barren chasm]

ah so thats probably why. so did i get lucky on this upload or it probably just built up over that time LMAO

[wheat horizon]

Can anyone help me find out how to have both good Shoulders with the outfit but also my balljoint shoulders?

[balmy barn]

dont want any part of the shoulder weighted to arms

[ornate stump]

Just move the shoulder bone even closer to the head of upper arm bone.

[wheat horizon]

it still looks bad, maybe giving the jacket its own rig might be better

[violet summit]

Im trying to make my own avatar but this keeps happening... any reason why?

[junior void]

looks like either a scale and/or viewpoint issue

[violet summit]

How do I fix that?

[ornate stump]

Looks more like an extra camera on the avatar model.

[violet summit]

Is that a unity thing?

[ornate stump]

Your model thing.

[junior void]

could be that too yea

[violet summit]

Where do I fix it? Unity or blender?

[ornate stump]

Unity is sufficient.

The camera is included from blender. But you could just remove it in unity.

[violet summit]

Okay. Ill try that and hopefully it works

[wheat horizon]

figured it out, it was the weight painting for the jacket not the bones

[molten thunder]

ok the solution to this for me was downloading the original model, getting the armature from the fbx and importing that into my updated fbx (making sure to reassign all my meshes to the new armature) and then importing that and replacing the mesh in the skinned mesh renderer.

if i had to guess why this was happening, maybe i accidentally moved/deleted some bones in blender and some sort of armature desync between unity and blender was causing it. why it only affected the shirt only god knows because every other top uses the same bones

[sturdy prawn]

okay so i downloaded vrc creator companion and it wont let me upload to vrc till, i checked the consle and it doest show errors

[somber sequoia]

In VCC, click "manage project" on your project and make sure you have the avatars SDK installed into it

[peak flare]

it doesent look like you have the vrc sdk installed

[sturdy prawn]

i installed it tho

right?

yeah see

[peak flare]

thats the creator companion

[sturdy prawn]

yeah thats it

[peak flare]

no

[sturdy prawn]

i clicked install

[peak flare]

the sdk is different

[sturdy prawn]

oh

how do i get the sdk?

[peak flare]

did you launch the creator companion?

[somber sequoia]

Open VCC itself, and do what I said here: #avatar-help message

[sturdy prawn]

yeah

[peak flare]

so you want to add your project to it

[sturdy prawn]

i inmstalled this

[sturdy prawn]

i did

[peak flare]

yeah thats it

[sturdy prawn]

ohhh okay

[solar warren]

Anyone able to help? I saw someone talk about "temporary pose space" but couldn't figure it out
I dont care if the camera moves with it too, I just want my avatar going up

[sturdy prawn]

is that all?

[somber sequoia]

Excellent, then when you open Unity, if the VRChat SDK menu doesn't show, there will be an error.

[peak flare]

yeah now you can go back to unity

and the vrc sdk should show at the top

[sturdy prawn]

if i have unity open, do i gotta close then reopen

?

[peak flare]

idk you might

just check

[somber sequoia]

shouldn't need to, but it doesn't hurt

Also.... which Unity version do you have?

[peak flare]

you should see it here

[peak flare]

you should open it through VCC

makes it easier

[somber sequoia]

Yes, you should, but who knows what things people do 🙂

[peak flare]

indeed xP

[sturdy prawn]

newest

i think?

[somber sequoia]

Please be specific and say the actual version number.

[peak flare]

you need to get the right version then

[somber sequoia]

you must be using 2022.3.22f1

[peak flare]

VCC will tell you the exact version

[peak flare]

this one yeah

[sturdy prawn]

it works so im not touching it

[somber sequoia]

that loading doesn't mean it's the right unity - again, please answer my question.

[sturdy prawn]

idk how to look at the version

[somber sequoia]

it's in the title bar of the window

[sturdy prawn]

?

[somber sequoia]

that is incorrect

get the one I said.

(VCC can do this for you)

[sturdy prawn]

okay

?

[somber sequoia]

Is that the version I said?

[solar warren]

.

[sturdy prawn]

no idea man

[somber sequoia]

I literally said it like 2 minutes ago

[sturdy prawn]

it is but it says its not supported by vrc

[peak flare]

i dont really know much but maybe look at gogo loco since it does something similar?

[solar warren]

alr tried

[peak flare]

i believe it means migrating your unity version from the one you currently have is not supported
that IS the official version supported

it says recommended

[somber sequoia]

oh so it's already installed, that's nice

(I don't use VCC, not familiar with this part)

[peak flare]

yeah i use ALCOM but its similar i think?

usually you just make it in the right version 😭

[sturdy prawn]

i changed versions

[peak flare]

alr good

[sturdy prawn]

says i might have to reupload my avi

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-meow-are-you-kidding-me-are-you-kitten-me-right-meow-seriously-gif-27226081

[somber sequoia]

Yep, but I don't install Unity with it, so haven't really looked at that part

[somber sequoia]

that's just one button click though

[peak flare]

ah ic

yeah i use unity hub didnt know you could install unity with that

[somber sequoia]

that's Unity's way to do it, yeah. Which is what you have to use on Linux

[peak flare]

fellow linux user omg :0

for some reason i cant drag and drop from other windows to unity its so annoying 😭

like i can in unity itself tho

[somber sequoia]

I've never done that on Linux so no idea there

[peak flare]

ah

its not the end of the world anyway

i jusst copy and paste from the file explorer

everything else works

[sturdy prawn]

it says i couldnt use that version

again why i said i shouldnt touch it

cuz it worked

before i did

[somber sequoia]

You really need to show us error messages if you have them, without context we have no idea what this might be from or saying

[peak flare]

you need to use the correct version

[sturdy prawn]

i did what?

[peak flare]

also agree please show us what you are seeing

[sturdy prawn]

i alr closed it

[somber sequoia]

I guess we can't help with it then.

[peak flare]

-w-

[peak flare]

its most likely because you wwent from the wrong version to the right one

something must have messed up in that process

[somber sequoia]

That seems perfectly reasonable.

[gaunt knoll]

what do you think the next step is

[peak flare]

did you read the error

[sturdy prawn]

continue

[somber sequoia]

So what I'd suggest here is closing Unity, and deleting the Library folder in your project, then opening the project in Unity 2022.3.22f1.

[sturdy prawn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/485621413231853569/1123095287750201396/unknown-3-1.gif

[somber sequoia]

switching versions often makes a mess of things

[peak flare]

or if your project isnt big just remake it in the right version

[sturdy prawn]

in my files or the vrc cc

[sturdy prawn]

true

[somber sequoia]

If you find a way to delete that folder in VCC I'll be impressed.

[sturdy prawn]

ive only changed the shaders

[peak flare]

then id just make a new project with VCC

[sturdy prawn]

i somehow deleted the vr cc

[peak flare]

it makes it quite easy

[sturdy prawn]

oh wait i have 2 of them?

[peak flare]

howw

[sturdy prawn]

i thin k i downloaded it twice

wait no it says i have 3

[peak flare]

dont tell me your launching the installer 😭

[gaunt knoll]

84x one and the none 84x one

[sturdy prawn]

i did that yesterday

like 5 times

cuz it wouldnt show up before

[peak flare]

just search for it in your windows search bar

[sturdy prawn]

i did

i got it

making a new project now

[spark walrus]

wth does this mean..?

[somber sequoia]

For avatars, probably not anything useful, unfortunately

[peak flare]

this is an issue with your sdk pretty sure

try reinstalling

cause thats a programming error not an avatar error

[spark walrus]

ok

ty

its not letting me remove it

[peak flare]

huh

try it from the VCC

[sturdy prawn]

just nuke unbitys servers

[peak flare]

thats what id do

[peak flare]

doesent let you?

[spark walrus]

doesn't let me

[peak flare]

hmm

[spark walrus]

it just keeps saying "failed"

[gaunt knoll]

na top 3 ...

reinstall packages

[peak flare]

make a copy before you do this
but go inside the file explorer and delete the vrchat sdk folder

then try reinstall

but make a backup

[spark walrus]

oki

just the avatars of the SDK or the base aswell>]?

[peak flare]

not suree

try the avatars first then both

[spark walrus]

oki

[gaunt knoll]

dont mess with any of the files

[spark walrus]

it worked!

Ty Digi!

[peak flare]

np

but yeah always make backups

especially doing stuff like that

[plucky drum]

Unity says my Humanoid doesnt have the head, hands or feet bones mapped but they clearly are and can even be grabbed and moved with the body moving with them

its happening because im changing the rig name

is there a way to change the name of the rig without it breaking like this?

[peak flare]

maybe check if the avatar section of the vrc avatar descriptor is still pointing to the right file when you change its name

[ornate stump]

You have to rename rig in blender. Otherwise you should not rename anything in the model.

[thorn marsh]

i have these controllers right, I wanna organise them into the 1 new controller called Yeen_Menu

How would 1 do this, cuz the vrc fury way kinda messy for my liking

[kind sparrow]

how do i set constraints for my eye movement? they seem to not be applying at all

[ornate stump]

Create new control in the Yeen Menu and choose control type Submenu.

[thorn marsh]

right ok

[ornate stump]

You have to change eye look in avatar descriptor.

[kind sparrow]

rotation states?

[radiant mason]

Is the the component enabled?

[kind sparrow]

where do i check that?

[ornate stump]

Yes. You have to proper set rotation states.

[kind sparrow]

right ok

[ornate stump]

You can't disable avatar descriptor component so that doesn't make sense to enable it.

[radiant mason]

Eye tracking 🙄

[kind sparrow]

i dont have eye tracking

[kind sparrow]

that fixed it, ty

[plucky drum]

got this weird error just as my avatar was about to finish uploading. not seeing any errors that i think could cause this in the build menu tho

[somber sequoia]

VRLabs Avatars 3.0 Manager has a tool to merge animation controllers

Oh menus

sorry

[plucky drum]

nvm, forgot to drag one thing into the mesh renderer

[thorn marsh]

yea its menus

just gonna do it the vr fury way with emptys

[somber sequoia]

you said "controller" and I didn't actually look close

[distant trout]

,

[wheat horizon]

anyone perhaps have a shapekey guide for the base Vrchat blendshapes needed?

[somber sequoia]

yes, here:

(this space intentionally left blank - there are no "needed" blendshapes)

[wheat horizon]

I mean like previews for sil, pp, ff, th, etc.

im not into the real human previews

[somber sequoia]

https://developers.meta.com/horizon/documentation/unity/audio-ovrlipsync-viseme-reference/

(linked in the "building your first avatar" in vrchat's creators site)

[wheat horizon]

"im not into the real human previews "

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what that means?

[wheat horizon]

the previews are all a human beings face doing the faces

Im looking for something more like an anime model preview

[somber sequoia]

ahh

[wheat horizon]

The human being ones are kinda hard to read for a cartoon model im making

[somber sequoia]

that I don't know of, but I think I've seen one somewhere

[ornate stump]

If you can't interpret the human example, you might have to come up with the shape yourself if your style is too specific for your model.

[timber wharf]

would be mentioning an ai be my final mistake?

[wheat horizon]

just odd there isnt an anime reference considering beginning of vrc was filled with alot of TDA models

[ornate stump]

Because human reference usually is enough for that.

[timber wharf]

now when i tihnk bout it i used meta official one and it was so unexpressive ass that i had to bring a mirror and act🤔 and it still ended up kinda deadfish

[ornate stump]

Yes. After that it's just "artistic exaggeration" to make it more expressive.

It really depends on art style.

[timber wharf]

'a' viseme

[ornate stump]

That for example.

[wheat horizon]

ehhh not for most stylized stuff nowadays, Oh faces are different on a human than a cartoon character

[arctic ginkgo]

there's one made by vrchat a LONG time ago, but it's actually pretty useful because it describes things like tongue position, jaw position, etc

i'm going to link it i just need to find it real quick

[ornate stump]

If you can't interpret the human example, you might have to come up with the shape yourself if your style is too specific for your model.

[arctic ginkgo]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W5KFa_aszCMrJaFD8mb9a-GHYO4X4S9M63GjM4UwuEw/pub

here this should be a little easier to follow

a lot of the technical information is outdated, so don't bother with that. Just look at the actual descriptions of the viseme shapes

[wheat horizon]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W5KFa_aszCMrJaFD8mb9a-GHYO4X4S9M63GjM4UwuEw/pub
Found this one thats a good inbetween

oh lol

jinx

[arctic ginkgo]

that's the same link I just sent 🙃

yeah lol

[wheat horizon]

i was a lil late to reply to the other

thanks haha

[trim prism]

i already reimported it into unity 2 times but nothing has changed >_<

im just clicking "export fbx" in blender then importing it into unity from there

[chilly river]

How do I stop the idle blinks from over extending from the face gestures? I used animator tracking control and its not working

[somber sequoia]

Make sure you set "apply scalings" to "FBX All" in the Blender export dialogue. And uncheck the option about leaf bones.

[torpid hatch]

Hey.. Ehhh, would anyone possibly be able to help me get my OC made as an avatar?

[somber sequoia]

Probably, what kind of help do you need?

[daring axle]

Anyone have any tutorials on how to make a avatar that allows them to have a duplicate head that still talks and emotes while you hold it?

[trim prism]

yea i did that, still not working tho >_<

[daring axle]

Basically te reall head would shrink down super small and the prop one would just appear in the avatars head

[somber sequoia]

You'll need to explain what "not working" means here then

[trim prism]

in my original post it shows pictures of how its broke

[somber sequoia]

Literally just duplicate the head mesh

[trim prism]

this one

[somber sequoia]

oh thanks, I was looking

[daring axle]

I know that but I still want the Prop head to emote and talk

[somber sequoia]

Was this a reimport or the initial import?

[trim prism]

re import

[somber sequoia]

Ok so if you want it to be a separate mesh object you'll need to fully animate the viseme blendshapes

[somber sequoia]

ok the rotation wrong is likely transforms not applied in Blender or it's facing wrong in Blender. Invisible could be many many things, shaders even. Can't really tell what it is from those images

[daring axle]

I've tried the boneconstraints route but it can only bee seen on PC

[somber sequoia]

why? VRC constraints work on quest just fine

[daring axle]

I'm a Stupid and complicated person

[peak flare]

we can help with specific questions, what do you need?

[trim prism]

oh yea, idk if its shaders. but im just switching the body mesh to the new one, where it says "mesh" i just drag in the new body mesh

[torpid hatch]

Well I was wondering if anyone could help me make my OC an avatar tbh, if you want I’ll send it in DMs

[somber sequoia]

ohhhh. Yeah this is not a thing you should be doing in most cases, I'm not surprised it isn't working.

[trim prism]

whaa fr? i never knew... ive been doing for a while >_<

[somber sequoia]

did you want someone to do work for you? If so you should go over to the VRC Traders discord to commission people, you'll get scammers here.

[torpid hatch]

Could you invite me?

[somber sequoia]

weird. I just overwrite the .fbx previously used. Doing what you're doing certainly won't have armature updates

[somber sequoia]

link is in #1204490664637890580

[peak flare]

like what does this mean
if you want someone to do everything for you you need to pay them money
almost anyone that does stuff for free is either learning themselves or has ulterior motives
if you want help with unity and doing it yourself you can ask a question here and someone will answer

[trim prism]

idk what armeture updates are hehe, ig i can try over write the original FBX, could make a backup of the fbx? usually i just copy past it, idk if thats ideal :3

[trim prism]

oh i mean, copy paste it in the same place but title it "backup"

[somber sequoia]

definitely make a backup!

[peak flare]

^^^

make backups regularly

very important

[trim prism]

yea truee, rn i dont have any for this project or my other cuz it wouldnt let me upload them to my home server for some reason.... once i figure that out ill back up all my projects tho :3

oki yea exporting over the main fbx like you said works!!!! yipeee

[somber sequoia]

excellent!

[ornate stump]

Did you also test in play mode or use gesture manager to test in unity?

[somber sequoia]

Is it like, very, VERY poor?

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot what you have in unity?

You should post in here.

I can't help in that case then.

It's going to be against game ToS too so I can't help with that.

[dire skiff]

hey, I have problem with avi upload, I did everything by instructions, but yet I got these errors, can someone help ? 😄

[left gull]

show the top-most 3 red errors, they usually list the reasons

[dire skiff]

these are only red errors i have 😄

[sturdy prawn]

how do i make it so these ears lock onto the nardo?

[left gull]

then its likely the 2nd error, is the selected model in the SDK upload panel turned on in the scene?

[peak flare]

attach the bones in the armature

[sturdy prawn]

how does one do that?

[dire skiff]

yes it is

[agile birch]

this isnt an avatar problem more like shader or unity problem, i cant seem to preview normal maps when i apply it to my texture, can i have some help 🙏

[sly rose]

Can I do 2D Visemes that's only change a texture ?

[left gull]

id try saving>closing>reopening the scene, it might be unity bugging out

[somber sequoia]

that avatar disabled in scene is a problem

[dire skiff]

alr, let me try

[left gull]

you can but with 2d viesemes its better to do a UV tile sheet for the faces

[peak flare]

in your avatar hierarchy open up the armature of your model and find where you want to attach them to (probably the head bone)
then drag the bones of the ears onto the armature
you could also use vrcfury for this if you want to structure your project a little better but i prefer the other way

[sly rose]

Is there a tutorial for that ???

[left gull]

uhhh its been talked about a few times in this channel/server though i dont know of a good video tutorial to recommend

i could try to find an old avatar i made and you could look through the animations to get an idea

[sly rose]

Oh don't worry you are not obligated to do that

I guess I'll just try to find where I can do this

[sturdy prawn]

how to remove these

[peak flare]

just hide them ig?

theyre audio sources

[somber sequoia]

upper right of Unity's scene view, the gizmos icon, you can scale down the 3D icon size there

[junior void]

Don't just blindly remove stuff x.x

[dire skiff]

alright tried few things and now I have only 1 error

[somber sequoia]

check in the build window above the build and publish button, there may be something that must be fixed

[left gull]

The quickest rough idea i can give you on how it works is selecting your desired mesh>create your animation>add property>open meshname dropdown>skinned mesh renderer>Material._Main Tex_ST and mess with the X-Y-Z-W settings to make it scroll across the tilesheet. make sure your image is an even size or it'll have issues with blurryness and sizing (i use this image when making my tile sheet faces to make sure everything is evenly spaced and such)

[dire skiff]

alright, let me check, I fixed 3 errors by putting both SDK's from 3.8 to 3.9. so I hope I find it quickly 😄

[somber sequoia]

I suggest 3.10.1, previous ones have significant bugs

[dire skiff]

3.10.1 you say ? alright! thank you very much

[hazy quest]

Trying to edit a friend's avatar.

The attached image is the prefab. I Overwritten the FBX in Unity.
Now the model(Prefab) is all messed up. How do I fix this?

[somber sequoia]

export from Blender with the same settings as previously used. Usually it's "apply scalings", which should be "FBX All" unless you know for sure it should be otherwise.

Also make sure the avatar prefab is not unpacked in the scene

[hazy quest]

Not Unpacked. Apply scaling is set to FBX All.

[dire skiff]

well, it is worse i think xD

I am starting to be clueless

[left wharf]

also check if the avatar is a FBX Prefab or a Variant of FBX Prefab.
using the Original Prefab leads to the same issue as an unpacked one.

[somber sequoia]

you may have to set the rig to generic, apply, then redo the humanoid setup

[hazy quest]

Already done

[somber sequoia]

Scroll that list on the right up so you can look at the top items

"look at that list" really means "look at the entirety of that list"

[hazy quest]

Can you elaborate?

[left wharf]

double click the arrow point multiple times until you see the FBX Prefab icon
if the root prefab isn't FBX Prefab, you have an Original Prefab

[hazy quest]

After clicking the prefab in the inspector tab, it takes me to the prefab it self. Not the FBX.

But changing the FBX affects the Prafab in the scene?

[left wharf]

It won't affect the Prefab in the scene
but the Prefab refers the FBX meshes, bones, and others
that's the issue

[lime hawk]

yo yo anyone know if its possible to have the same animation that i trigger by pyhsbone_is grabbed be affected by a toggle?

[sturdy prawn]

i dont understand this

[somber sequoia]

There's some package that is required, but you didn't install yet

[sturdy prawn]

what package?

[somber sequoia]

look at the avatar creator's documentation for clues as to what it is

[sturdy prawn]

okay

[somber sequoia]

it's not clear from there, but make sure your VRChat SDK is up to date (i.e. 3.9 or newer) while you're at it

[flat skiff]

how do i fix this

i made my textures low but it won't go any lower

this is for quest

[somber sequoia]

decrease other things - could be remove extra stuff you don't need, reduce mesh size, remove unused blendshapes

[left gull]

Thrys avatar performance tool is good for finding out what's taking up the most space on your model

[flat skiff]

how do i use it tho </3

more like find it

i have it in the prokect

[somber sequoia]

top menu, under Thry

[flat skiff]

oml i didn't see that 😭

[left wharf]

also, that is last build size
try rebuild the avatar

[flat skiff]

okay

[sturdy prawn]

i looked and idk what its missing, says nothing about missing scripts

[left wharf]

is there something like "Requirements" ? if so, that's the requirements
feel free to link the avatar store page

[sturdy prawn]

https://nardoiri.gumroad.com/l/Nardoragon

i dont have vrcfury

that makes sense

[somber sequoia]

Yes, that's what I meant by requirements

[sturdy prawn]

it says i cant download it

[somber sequoia]

vrcfury.com?

[agile birch]

🙏

[sharp osprey]

i need help, im trying to upload an avatar and when i export it from blender and put it in unity all of sudden the armature is rotated, when everything is fine in blender

[sturdy prawn]

okay it works now

[somber sequoia]

all transforms applied in Blender?

[sharp osprey]

yeah, i figured it out, i forgot to post here, it turned out the exporting was on -Z foward and not Z foward which was weird since i never touch that.

[somber sequoia]

weird!

[thorny tartan]

why isn't there a material slot for the trail?

[sturdy prawn]

how do i upload to android?

it wont let me

[somber sequoia]

you don't have the android build tools installed

[sturdy prawn]

how do i do that?

[somber sequoia]

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/build-test-mobile#set-up-unity-android-tools

[robust bison]

What it mean if a texture doesn't load on the model on my PC but it does on someone elses?

[past crystal]

Hey to anyone who cares enough to read this. i need help making an avatar (if im in the right place)

[stiff crane]

Does anyone know how to set up sound for locomotion? Like jumping and walking.

[somber sequoia]

definitely the right place

[stray trench]

i just found out my gestures dont work somehow

i can press buttons and my hand makes a fist, or finger guns, but if i enable the hud to show when gestures are triggered, it never shows anything

learned this by buying an asset based on gestures and cant get it to work on vr

[past crystal]

Thanks

[stuck wadi]

my avi's legs keep crossing

[somber sequoia]

when?

[glad thunder]

anyone know how to make hair not clip through the body?

[somber sequoia]

a combination of physbone angle limiters and colliders

[glad thunder]

is there a vid for that?

[somber sequoia]

dunno, probably

[woven pulsar]

hey would anyone be willing to do me a quick favor

I need help changing the skin on my avatar

I need to change it from #2 to #1

looking a little bit too shiny

[left gull]

select the mesh>open material dropdown in its inspector window (On the right)>find material used>select the material>drag texture into it's albedo slot

[woven pulsar]

I did just that but it's not working

[left gull]

what shader does it use ?

there might be multiple slots that need their textures changed from 2 to 1

[past crystal]

I need someone to tutor me through blender

[peak flare]

Blender guru donut tutorial

Very good

[mortal dagger]

Hey guys what is this message

i tried looking up discord but it felt like this

https://tenor.com/view/pilot-seat-tower-unite-video-games-navigate-gif-17956863

[somber sequoia]

you can only do "build and test" for android avatars with an active Android emulator or device plugged in

you probably meant to click build and publish

[mortal dagger]

but when i do Build and publish it dosent give me the option to name it or give it a pfp

[somber sequoia]

that's in the window above the build and publish button though

[somber sequoia]

not sure what you're showing - type the name in there?

[mortal dagger]

it doesnt let me

[somber sequoia]

you can't type in it?

[mortal dagger]

yes

[somber sequoia]

weird.

[mortal dagger]

okay never mind the problem that i had sens morning fixed it self randomly

[rapid osprey]

Wheres that tiny party goer honk made?

Plz @ me when u do

I need ts now :,)

[safe venture]

hi, I'm new to making my own vrchat avatars.

And I need some help making it quest compatible

I am also have no Idea what I am doing I am also perfectly fine colabing with someone as well to help me.

Also please dm if interested

[somber sequoia]

wow that bounding box is huge

[safe venture]

Yea need help with it even if it's physically collabing with smo

[somber sequoia]

is your avatar scaled up huge or something?

[safe venture]

No its at the #1

[somber sequoia]

huge props? why is that so big?

[safe venture]

There are no props.

[sturdy prawn]

how do i attach these ears to the avi?

[night ember]

Do they have bones?

Cant really see much of anything from the image other than it being a mesh

[somber sequoia]

still not really helpful - do they have an armature?

[sturdy prawn]

?

[somber sequoia]

there we go. that armature link is how you attach it

[night ember]

That still really doesnt show if it actually has an armature or not

[sturdy prawn]

how do i know if it does?

[mortal dagger]

Oh my god why the hell is the avatar so big in game i made sure the scale is set to 1

oh its the bounding box

what the actual AUDIO JUNGLE is a binding box

[night ember]

Is there actual bones that move the mesh

[coral mountain]

help???

[west current]

Is vrchat racist to 2d avatars why are they so hard to make?

[somber sequoia]

they are?

[digital roost]

I give up, ive been trying for a while but i dont know what im doing, how should i rig/cloth sim the tube so that it confrorms to the head moving and is still linked to both the mask and the backpack while having jiggle

[sturdy prawn]

idk how to see if there is

[night ember]

Look at the hierarchy

[west current]

How do you give a 2d avatar toggles?

[somber sequoia]

same as any other avatar?

[west current]

Then my thing just fucked up

[halcyon needle]

hihi i was creating a vrc model through SDK and the only way i truly would play is if i was able to have my own model, but its saying that i'd have to play more to be able to upload an avatar? i'd really like to know if theres a way to bypass this as again, the only way id rather play is if i have my own model nd i dont wanna have to wait to even do that if i already have it yknow? i'd love some help

[somber sequoia]

Sure, pay for a month of VRC+

[halcyon needle]

;-; thats the only way to bypass it? thats not bad ig but kinda iffy lol, ty for telling me

[somber sequoia]

yep

[nocturne urchin]

i'm very new to making avatars, recently purchased a prefab and i just cannot figure out how to do what it wants me to do here?

[somber sequoia]

find the model file, click it, look in the inspector, rig tab, "configure" button, make sure all the right bones are in the right places

[nocturne urchin]

i mapped the chest but it still gives me the error

oh wait i didnt click apply lol

thanks

[obtuse bronze]

anyone know how to fix this (pls ping)

[somber sequoia]

I'd do what it says, and make sure my avatar descriptor does not have gogo loco animation controllers in it

(also there's a vrcfury discord)

[obtuse bronze]

oooo can you send link?

[obtuse bronze]

also cant find any where look😭

[teal laurel]

Where / what did you look for?

[obtuse bronze]

a go go loco controller In my avatar descriptor

[teal laurel]

Can you show your avatar descriptor where tzw FX layers are?

[obtuse bronze]

uhh what is tzw fx layers?

[teal laurel]

It should say something like FX, gestures and stuff in your descriptor somewhere. I forgot where exactly it is, i am at work rn ao i can't show a screenshot

[teal laurel]

Playable layers

[obtuse bronze]

OK So what do I do with that?

[teal laurel]

Can you show whats in there?

[obtuse bronze]

Just now looking at your profile picture and Oh my God I love it

[teal laurel]

There you have the issue

[obtuse bronze]

So do I just reset to default?

[teal laurel]

Remove the acrion, additice and base layer

[obtuse bronze]

ok

[teal laurel]

Also put in the ones your avatar uses by degault

If you know where they are

[teal laurel]

pfp
Thanks 💜🖤

[obtuse bronze]

I think I understand what you're saying

[teal laurel]

I think my avatar only has
FX
And Gesture.

[obtuse bronze]

It is getting past the last Upload number so it might work

[teal laurel]

Nice

[obtuse bronze]

hell yea

[teal laurel]

Otherwise try in play mode with Guesture Manager (can be added in vcc)

Then you don't need to build it or upload it for vrchat and can test it within the editor

[obtuse bronze]

uhhh

[teal laurel]

Can you show the errors in the log?
i hate unit logs lol, i feel like i can't read ahkt there

[obtuse bronze]

So the problem is is it didn't let me 'cause it crashed

[teal laurel]

A

[obtuse bronze]

So this might take a minute to open back up I apologize

[teal laurel]

I hope you saved

[obtuse bronze]

It should have

[teal laurel]

always save from time to time

Because unity is a bitch xd

[obtuse bronze]

my laptop has Personalized beef with me😭😭😭😭😭😭

[teal laurel]

🥀

F

[obtuse bronze]

so i'm gonna restart this project give me a few seconds

[teal laurel]

Take your time man

[obtuse bronze]

I do apologize for the inconvenience though

[teal laurel]

No worries man, just soldering a bit
https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/4kZgyPpMG4xEt6w/preview :3

do i not have embed perms? a

[obtuse bronze]

So funny he he ha ha story is he uploaded

It only took my entire computer crashing to do so

Well regardless thank you so much for the help I would have never figured that out

[teal laurel]

Don't be like me and try updating your avatar while being on PCVR.
If i upload and build my avatar while playing vrchat my pc just goes 💥

And unity crashes

[obtuse bronze]

oh my

[obtuse bronze]

hey so it worked For PC but now it's giving all of these errors on quest

[teal laurel]

What the fuck did you do xd

[obtuse bronze]

Nothing but for some reason it's giving the errors but I uploaded it anyway and it all works This don't make sense😭😭😭😭😭

[mortal dagger]

gad dam 21 alerts

[obtuse bronze]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[fringe quarry]

hey so im working on this my hero avatar on vrchat and i need help adding the eye motion

the eyes just go white when i uploaded it

[ornate stump]

You have to properly set eye rotation states.

[fringe quarry]

damn it sounds like such a hassle

[ornate stump]

It's only just 5 states.

[fringe quarry]

alright

i'll try my best

thanks tho

[balmy barn]

hit preview on the first , if they turn white you have rotation wrong or the wrong eyebones if it has multiple

eyebones should be up in blender

[solar kernel]

Hi everyone

[sturdy prawn]

so i did what i was supposed to and its still not locking it onto the avi

can someone call and help me with this?

[junior void]

did what?

[sturdy prawn]

the ears wont lock onto the avi

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-angry-black-sad-gif-13761237589791439872

[junior void]

show the armature of the ears

[sturdy prawn]

wheres that at?

[junior void]

its... part of the ears in the hierarchy...

[sturdy prawn]

your acting as if i know what any of this is

[junior void]

expand it

[sturdy prawn]

sorry that was mean

[ornate stump]

We expect you to ask further if you don't know it.

[junior void]

so the first uppermost bone that the ears include is the head

[sturdy prawn]

yeah

[junior void]

that means the armature link component should merge the armature at "head" not neck

[sturdy prawn]

thats what i locked it to

and it didnt wokr

work

so i did neck

still no luck

[junior void]

this is concerning

[sturdy prawn]

oh

how do i change that?

[junior void]

im unsure if this is referring to the asset or to your base but you can look at the avatar descriptor

its the big script on your root object

[sturdy prawn]

activly lying to my face'

[ornate stump]

The object wasn't inside of avatar object hierarchy.

[sturdy prawn]

unity is confusing

[junior void]

good catch

[sturdy prawn]

ohhhhhhhh

wait huh?

[junior void]

you only have the asset next to the avi

[ornate stump]

It's written in the red border box.

[sturdy prawn]

like this?

[junior void]

better

[sturdy prawn]

ooooo

hold on lemme launch vrc

[junior void]

you can test this in unity using gesture manager

much easier than having to upload a million times

[sturdy prawn]

how do i do that?

[junior void]

add gesture manager thru vcc to your project

then add a gesture manager object to your scene and go into play mode

from there, you can move your avi around and all physics are there as if ingame

[junior void]

ye

[sturdy prawn]

hold on its loading

and my avis gone

[junior void]

your window probably changed to camera view

you can just go back to scene view

[junior void]

please dont crop so much

[junior void]

this seems like an error of sorts

[sturdy prawn]

idk tho

[junior void]

if you get out of play mode, it should be back

did you go into play mode using gesture manager? or just the play button at the top

[sturdy prawn]

gesture manager

:(

[junior void]

anything useful in the console? errors?

[sturdy prawn]

ITS

BACK

w nardo

the error was with an object i had on my avi

gotta remove it

ig

i pressed play

idk what to do now

[junior void]

go to scene window

[sturdy prawn]

okay

now what

[junior void]

click the gesture manager object. then drag the arrows on it around which will move the avi

[ornate stump]

It's missing from the above image.

[sturdy prawn]

:D

[sturdy prawn]

whats that do?

[junior void]

it gives you arrows that you can use to move things around

like jiggle the avi around to test physics and if things are sticking

[sturdy prawn]

its just doing this

[junior void]

click the gesture manager object

then scroll out to see your avi in full size

it should have arrows at the bottom of its feet

im starting to question my sanity

[sturdy prawn]

ohhhhh

i found it

its how you move the avi normally

thanks

:3

uhhh

my krita is glitched

[sly rose]

Hii, I have a question, I have a plane with the same texture as the head that's placed on top of it (this plane is for the face)
Problem is, that the original UV is very messed up, and for drawing a face, it's pretty difficult. So is it possible to take the UV from the Head Texture, and create a new Texture with the same UV as the plane (Project from View) and still have the texture correctly put on it ??

[junior void]

if you change the uv, the texture will no longer fit

[sly rose]

Yeah I know, that's the thing that bother me, I tried Bake and stuff but yeah It's no use

[sturdy prawn]

deadass a genius

[junior void]

whats the problem with re-unwrapping the head and adjusting the painting?

[sly rose]

The thing is that it's need to be exactly in the same spot

[junior void]

not what i meant

why can you not repaint the head

in a different location

[sly rose]

I guess I could do that, that just bother me to redo all of the head texture, just for this stupid problem, but I guess it's the right option

[junior void]

the other option is paint on the model in 3d space

[sly rose]

Hmm, okay then, well thanks

[junior void]

what did i do to you?

[sturdy prawn]

you helped me. ur like, super smart

:3

[sturdy prawn]

how do i change the texture of my avi?

i have krita but now idk how to change the texture

[junior void]

save the image, drag the image into your assets into unity

then you need to apply the texture to the material that is assigned to the avatars body

[sturdy prawn]

ik there was a button i could click that could auto drag it into krita and let me auto save it from there

[junior void]

no idea, ive long abandoned krita for clip studio plus i never use flat texturing

[somber sequoia]

isn't that just an OS thing? If you setup krita to be the default app for opening files of that type, double-clicking it in the Unity project window should open in that app, right?

[sturdy prawn]

oh hey thanks

[mild temple]

hello

[junior void]

dang, since when does discord actually flag and hide spammer messages lol

[somber sequoia]

oh neat

[gaunt knoll]

it happens sometimes

[fast storm]

can someone maybe help me with my avatar?
For some reason the imposter looks like this, i'm not sure what to do to fix it...
it happens regardless what outfit i use

[somber sequoia]

it's kinda hard to tell what's going on there, but imposters usually use the default state of your avatar, without the animator running.

[fast storm]

it look normal, it's only the imposter that looks like that

[gaunt knoll]

weird i love it when people do stuff they have no idea how they did it

[ocean galleon]

Hello I have absolutely zero experience and knowledge making avatars + no experience with 3D animation software and have foolishly decided to make one out of a barely rigged ripped PS2 model (It’s Lucia from Devil May Cry 2 specifically). I have (attempted) to give her a humanoid rig and have placed the camera properly but that’s it. Idk what to do from here or even if I can do anything from here because she doesn’t have hip bones apparently. I also want to add some toggles that changes her model and textures, a toggle that lets her hold the weapons on her waist, Gogo loco, and some music toggles. Probably too daring for my skill level but whatever. Please explain it to me as you would a child since I don’t know what anything on the software really does.

Is it that bad

Yeah I’m here

[junior void]

Is that the mesh?

It looks like Swiss cheese

[peak flare]

that is unusable
also ripped meshes are against TOS/Copyright law

[timber wharf]

@ocean galleon almost any humanoid can use mixamo autorig as a starting point

tho ive no idea what im looking at and if its supposed to look like this

[round comet]

Ok I need sum advice

I wanna optimize my avi more but I don’t wanna delete the body mesh in case I wanna put more outfits on her in the future.

Should I make an extra save of the blendfile so I can have one to edit later and one to optimize more by deleting parts of the body? :o

I’m leaning toward yes but opinions are always fun

[somber sequoia]

You can duplicate objects in the same blend file. Lots of mine have stuff named Source.ObjectName next to ObjectName, or in a collection of source objects

[timber wharf]

ye just duplicate it to a different collection so it doesnt get exported

[round comet]

Oo ok, thanks guys

[somber sequoia]

Yeah I have my defaults set to export only visible objects

(operator preset in the FBX export dialog, upper right)

[round comet]

I’ll give that a go

[junior void]

Same

[solar warren]

is there a way to make physbones collide with the world

[somber sequoia]

no

[solar warren]

sad

what abt my avatar

[somber sequoia]

what do you mean?

[balmy barn]

sure, not very reliable vs a angle limit

[solar warren]

like having physbones collide with my avatar

[somber sequoia]

physbones collide with physbone colliders only

so put colliders wherever you want

https://creators.vrchat.com/common-components/physbones#collision

ah right, now you can collide with 'global colliders in the world' but that's up to the world creator

[flat lava]

So im rather new to making toggles; ive added an outfit to an avatar and im trying to preserve the original outfit aswell, basically make the new set be another set of toggles for it; the issue im running into is the jacket of the new outfit seems linked to the toggle of the old jacket, as they both turn on at the same time // also I cant seem to get the glasses toggle to work. Im using MA for both

[junior void]

Ew modular avatar

[teal laurel]

I myself use vrcfury over modular avatar but i see nothing wrong with modular avatar

[balmy barn]

not a fan of it, people who use shortcuts dont really know what happen if something break, learning basic is handy

[flat lava]

im just following the documentation of the outfit since it came with MA on it :v

[peak flare]

yeah ive only ever done it manually and recently messed around with vrcfury so

idk

[peak flare]

also this might be a good question to ask the avatar creator

we dont know what the project looks like

theres not a lot to work off of

[flat lava]

could be difficult since i got these off booth from a japanese creator

[wanton solar]

Is there any way to fix my avatar's hands not lining up with my controllers while in VR?
The avatar has a big head if that could have anything to do with it.

[lilac musk]

When avatars have proportions that are fairly different, it starts to do strange things like that. Common issue with big heads is their eye position is so high, it makes the arms feel very short. You can make this a bit better by simply making the POV down further. Though that comes with it's own issues.

[still shuttle]

Make sure the viewpoint is set properly. There's also a handy prefab called "avatar limb scaling" that might help you in this situation

[rocky axle]

whenever i Upload a Avatar doing the Multi upload for PC and Quest it would run thought, and Finish Pc, but then enter not responding, when it trys to switch and upload to quest. and i tried waiting it out but it doesnt fix and just gets stuck. is there a way to fix this?

[teal laurel]

I feel you, this happens to me basically every time. I never touch multi upload because of that

[lavish glen]

does anyone have the new sdk for unity?

[lilac musk]

Use VCC to get the latest SDK

[rocky axle]

it happens with avatars at one point, if i upload a brand new avatar, it Doesnt do it, but at some point down the line it will.

[tender plover]

im new to avatar making and im already trying to do next level stuff at beginner level 😭
i have a scythe i bought from booth i tried to follow youtube videos but its not the same because it has effects and sound, spin animations and im so lost

[teal laurel]

i call voodoo shenanigans xd

[junior void]

You're stating everything except what you need help with

[vapid hedge]

does anyone here use the undertale mmd models for the avatars im having trubble keeping there eyes closed

[round quiver]

can anyone help my avatars eyes keep going white when I put it into gesture manger playmode and I have no idea why and I couldn't find any results online

[vapid hedge]

i have this but the eyes are open when im in the game

[vapid hedge]

try 1 texture swaping , try 2 placing the eyes on a amature again

[round quiver]

I have tried changing the texture but it did the same thing and the eyes are connected to the face

[vapid hedge]

ok try this click on the eye model in the hiarcy and then copy and paste it

[round quiver]

ok I fixed it but also didnt so I found out I was using the wrong animator but now its using a random texture for the eyes instead :(

fixed it :>

[somber osprey]

what does this mean?

it failed to upload

[livid river]

How do I rotate this mesh in the renderer 90 degrees?

[vapid hedge]

has anyone used these models before what im i doing wrong it looks the way i want with the eyes in unity but for some reason i can't set the default as the blink WHAT im i doing wrong

[bronze rock]

how would i convert real height into xyz for avatar sizing?

[ornate stump]

Length unity in unity is in meter.

[wanton solar]

Is there any way to have multiple UV's on one mesh without Poiyomi?

I wanted to keep my avatar as optimized as I can, but my current setup relies on multiple meshes

[dawn oak]

my avatars hair keeps going sideways despite the settings being on default and having no collider, other parts of the avi move fine, what can cause this? i already treid just dragging it on instead of armature link and that fixed nothing

[dawn oak]

u can already do that in blender to be able to put multiple materials onto an avatar or do you mean something else?

[west pulsar]

does anyone know why my vrcfury dosent pop up after reopenign your unity project and then the poyomi dosent work anymore when its clearly in my vrcc

[errant comet]

Showing the errors in the Unity console would be more helpful. The top most error after clearing would be what is most likely to be what the issue is

[dawn oak]

theyre litteraly default and its happening anyone knows what can cause this?

[cobalt cloak]

how do i fix that

[dawn oak]

upload the desktop version first

[cobalt cloak]

it is

thats the problem

[dawn oak]

are htey in the same location in the hierarchy

[cobalt cloak]

yes

[rough phoenix]

Both versions must share the exact same blueprint ID, if you forgott to do that
Fix it by uploading the PC version, copying its blueprint ID, pasting it into the Quest avatar, then uploading Quest again!!

[cobalt cloak]

i did that

but I'll do it again

wait

[dawn oak]

i cant find any info on how to fix this anywhere

[rough phoenix]

The hair root transform is probably rotated or scaled weirdly, so the PhysBone thinks “sideways"' is forward
This often comes from the model import or from applying armature changes in Blender (if you used that)(

Fix is to check the hair root rotation and scale, reset it to clean values, or re export with applied transforms

Also make sure the PhysBone root is the actual hair root, not a parent that’s rotated

[dawn oak]

its a booth model i added and it doesnt seem to have any weird rotation and scale

[rough phoenix]

Then it’s almost certainly bone orientation, not transform values.

Unity probably cant fix that (I don't know much)
My guess is that the only fix is reorienting the hair bones in Blender, or replacing the PhysBone root with a child bone that points the right way

[dawn oak]

ill try the root thing

didnt seem to work

[rough phoenix]

Naw sorry mate
My knowledge didn't go far
Sorry that it didn't work for ya, can't help you more((

[somber osprey]

is there a way to check the UV map of the model?

to see which part of the texture is where?

[opaque geyser]

so im working on an avatar for a friend and my material has the texture in the right slot. but everytime i set it to standard lite it goes completely black but if i have it on standard its perfectly fine. this friend is a quest user so i need it to be standered lite. does anyone know how i can fix this

[errant comet]

Don't know of a way in Unity, but you can in blender since it's kind of for that

[errant comet]

Mesh has vertex colors, would need to remove them in blender or use VRCQuestTools on the model

[opaque geyser]

thanks

[sage kelp]

Im currently working on my Karin avatar, and it seems that the expressions are using the actual face texture (pictures below for reference). My friend showed me that their avatar has 2 materials going, but mine only has one. There is a texture called Karin_Alpha not being used and it looks like it could be whats supposed to be used, but i have no clue what to do with it, nor how to fix this at all. I also have boots from a set i bought that dont seem to be cooperating and looks like they get crunched(?), is there any way to fix this too?

[latent terrace]

as the mentioned friend here's mine

not the same model but works the same as any one i've worked with previously

[nocturne urchin]

i'm trying to retexture this avatar i've bought but somehow i broke one of the materials and i can't get it back? what exactly am i doing wrong here? this is my first time doing an avatar like this lol

[urban tulip]

so i recently uploaded an avatar that used jerrys face tracking template and when i went in game to test the tracking when i look up my eyes will roll back into my head is there any fixrs to this?

[peak flare]

wdym you broke it?

you can do control + z to undo

if that doesent work you can make a new material

[nocturne urchin]

i tried to but that didn't seem to fix it

[peak flare]

alr so right click in the directory thingy at the bottom -> new -> material

[nocturne urchin]

I was trying to rename the texture to what i thought was its mapping but that just made it white

[peak flare]

so the material is still there?

[nocturne urchin]

yeah

[peak flare]

click onto the mesh of your avatar and check the materials section

see if its still there

if its not then just drag it back on to the right place

[nocturne urchin]

ohh you know what i had to drag it onto the model

thats why it wasnt doing anything lol

this has been very much a learning process for me lol

[peak flare]

weve all been there lol

[somber osprey]

how do I import this to blender easily?

cause I only have the package

[agile birch]

hello, i'm having issues where my avatar or shaders arent making normal maps visible, anybody help?

[agile birch]

grab the fbx then drag and drop it in blender

[errant comet]

The unitypackage gets imported into Unity, then you take the FBX in your unity project into Blender

[agile birch]

also the texture itself should have the uv wrap, just remove the texture on the png but the fastest way is with Blender

[nocturne urchin]

ok another issue now, no physbones are working and im not sure which package i need for the right expressions menu

[proven quail]

Click the arrow drop down next to 'materials'. You might have replaced the alpha material with the body material.

[peak flare]

i cant help with an issue this vague

i need screenshots and a better explanation

[nocturne urchin]

oops sorry

[agile birch]

can i get some help please, i've been at this for 2 days now 😭

[proven quail]

Do you have any shadow or shading settings? Shading matcaps? Rimshade? Flat shading will not have normal values appear because there is no shadows or highlights to show them.

[nocturne urchin]

so i'm comparing it to a free public avatar of the same kind, its expressions menu has options such as first picture. i don't see those on the avatar i just uploaded, just the default emotes that vrchat puts in.

another thing with the one i just uploaded is there doesn't seem to be any movement on the ears or tail like so assuming these are physbones (pic 2). on the av i just did everything is just stiff

[agile birch]

that's all i have on

[proven quail]

Yeah flat shading won't have any shadows or highlights. That's the problem. Add shadows, or rim shade, or just something to make the normal values show

[agile birch]

wont i need a shadow map

[peak flare]

were those features advertised to be on the avatar base? your comparing it to someone elses avatar that theyve uploaded and added things to. Youll most likely have to add those things yourself

[proven quail]

Nah, you can use the default shading settings. Like toon, realistic, cloth, skin, etc.

Those are some of poi's shading modes if I remember correctly

[nocturne urchin]

they do seem to be included in the package i bought, this is the dontjinxit furgon

[agile birch]

awesome, thanks g works now just gotta adjust the tilting lol

[nocturne urchin]

you know what i dont think i configured the avatar

that may have been the issue

[peak flare]

well either way its specific to the avatar. Check if the fx layer is properly set up for the expressions menu, or if you need vrcfury or some other package as well.

[nocturne urchin]

configuring the avatar worked !!

[peak flare]

kewl

[sage kelp]

do you mean these right here? would i just throw in the Karin_Alpha in there?

[proven quail]

no, here

a mesh can have more than one material slot

[sage kelp]

oh i see, theres an element one and 2, do i keep one as the face texture and the other as the alpha one?

sorry im a big noob to all this lmfao

[proven quail]

yeah, one of the elements is the face material, and the other is the alpha material. When you switch one, make sure the face looks okay, because it might not be obvious if the alpha is supposed to be element 0 or element 1.

if you switch the wrong one, you can just put the face material back and then put the alpha material in the other slot