avatar-help

[eager surge]

It's still acting like I haven't deleted the unity version

[somber sequoia]

"it" being what here?

[eager surge]

Vrchat creator companion

[somber sequoia]

I don't use VCC so can't really help with it, but #creator-companion exists.
I do know you have to pick the proper unity version for each project before you open it.

[eager surge]

Probs gonna take a break since the unity version Im downloading takes 3 hours to download

[somber sequoia]

wow thats a long time

[sharp lily]

So I’m making tongues for this and it’s going to have 3 long ones. I’ve never had to make a tongue before so I’m a bit confused on how to rig it

[somber sequoia]

do you need to?

[sharp lily]

Considering it’s basically the defining thing about this character, yes.

I probably should have clarified this isn’t like a weird thing, this is an alien from Ben10 who can eat anything and turn it into a bomb inside its stomach, I found a very basic model of him floating around so I’m adding features and making it my own.

[somber sequoia]

yeah without context I have no idea what you want here

but still

do you need to? I mean, what are they supposed to do?

[mossy kayak]

hello chat, need some help with something. i'm not new to blender but i haven't touched vrc model creation in a few years, so most of the tools are outdated.
Does anyone know the best way to make a texture atlas? i tried to use the material combiner addon that's part of CATS (the newest forked version) but i'm having some issues with it. the documentation doesn't really seem to be very clear about some information

[sharp lily]

I mean basically I do want them to like be able to sit comfortably in the mouth and also stick out, just wondering if it’d be easier to do that with bones or shapekeys

[somber sequoia]

Yeah that thing is super limited, last I looked it only did albedo textures - I generally don't use it. If I actually need an atlas I'd probably use ImageMagic to do the textures, but I usually would rework my UV maps and bake to the new layout.

[somber sequoia]

That doesn't really tell me much - I think what I want to ask is: why do you think they need to be rigged? Do you intend to animate them using bones, or make them have physbones?
If not, no need to rig them.

[mossy kayak]

there's an option for the other textures too (like roughness and normal maps) but it's just not working for me. assuming we're both talking about the one by grim-es. i kinda don't wanna manually rearrange my uv maps considering they're not all the same resolution

[somber sequoia]

yeah we are - but I haven't looked at it for real in like 2 years

[sharp lily]

I do think they should have physbones, I think I’m just confused what the resting position should be. Like should I make them by default sticking out or resting in the mouth?

[somber sequoia]

oh, can't really comment on that, it's an aesthetic thing so up to you

[mossy kayak]

basically what happens when i combine them (only two meshes, but four materials) is that it only creates an atlas with only one of the textures, and the UV maps on the other meshes get destroyed.
the readme has this line but i can't really figure out what it means.

[somber sequoia]

huh interesting

[fast jay]

it just exports as fbx

[mossy kayak]

the python script has this but i don't know much about python so i can't really tell if this means all of the image texture nodes need to be named image texture??? i'm just using the default principled bsdf with an albedo, roughness, and normal map. the different types properly convert into the atlas, but it's still only for that one material.

[fast jay]

nvm me stupid

[mossy kayak]

and the images for that material aren't named "image texture"

[sharp lily]

Ah

[mossy kayak]

oddly, the normal map properly "converts" into the atlas as well, even though there is nothing about normal in the script

[somber sequoia]

those seem like the usual suspects, including the MMD stuff

[mossy kayak]

wdym

[somber sequoia]

I mean the names of those shader types and image nodes are what I'd expect a thing like this to do

[mossy kayak]

huh. anyway... do you know of a better tool for making atlases

[somber sequoia]

I do not

[mossy kayak]

if anyone else has an answer i would appreciate it

(only vrchat user to care about avatar optimization)

being silly

[gaunt knoll]

Python data structures related to the shaders its nothing but a snippet of the code

[mossy kayak]

which is why i'm confused that it's what was linked in the readme for the issue

the link here links directly to that block of code

because the other things listed here don't apply

all the textures are sourced from a folder on my computer, my blender has always been in english and all of the names are in english, the objects do not share the same materials

[spice fossil]

hi! im trying to remove the jacket from this model to make it toggle, and i want to seperate it with the armature. so its already rigged, i used to know how i just forgot. thank you!

[mossy kayak]

there's probably a better way to do it than this but this is how i would do it:
select the jacket by hovering over it and clicking L (and all the separate pieces that are part of it, if there are any) mesh > separate > selection
do the same with the bones in the armature. then parent the jacket object to the separated armature

[somber sequoia]

is this a separate object already?

[mossy kayak]

it looks like it's all one mesh judging by the outline

[spice fossil]

no, i have to do it

[somber sequoia]

you might be able to select by material before you hit 'p' to "part" out the selected faces.

[mossy kayak]

i would advise not separating the armature though considering they share bones

just separate the mesh and make that togglable

[somber sequoia]

yeah no need for that unless you actually want to have a package you can share or something

[spice fossil]

doesnt it need an armature?

[somber sequoia]

what do you want to do here?

[spice fossil]

to parent the bones in unity

[mossy kayak]

multiple objects can use the sme armature

[spice fossil]

i want to make the jacket a toggle

[mossy kayak]

if you separate the jacket as an object, it'll still be parented to the armature, you'll just be able to toggle the object itself

[somber sequoia]

Oh then one way is to just separate the mesh into its own object, then just export he FBX.

Zero need to separate the armature and make it into something you have to deal with merging back in in complicated ways in Unity

[mossy kayak]

yeah plus they share bones (arm bones for example) so if you "separated" it, you would need to duplicate every bone it was attached to. so you would have double for evbery arm and chest bone

[somber sequoia]

Personally I'd probably use UV tile discarding, but maybe that won't work for you.

[somber sequoia]

no, you just export the jacket mesh with the avatar's armature and use a thing like Fury's armature link in Unity. But why, there's no point here.

[mossy kayak]

that's what im saying 😭

im just adding onto what you said

[somber sequoia]

okay.

[spice fossil]

is there a way you can simplfy what you're saying? im sorry its been a minute since ive done this 😅

[somber sequoia]

Select all the mesh you want to be a separate part, and hit 'p' to turn it into its own mesh object.

Then re-export the avatar

[mossy kayak]

you dont need to separate the armature, just the mesh which is the part of the model into a separate object. everything in unity that you can select is an "object", and toggles work by toggling that object. so you can toggle the jacket if it's separate from the body

[somber sequoia]

if you're doing a quest avatar, note that doing this means an additional Mesh Renderer and that counts against you.

[mossy kayak]

yes, idealy you want the least mesh objects possible. there is a way to hide it using shape keys (by scaling it down) but that's rather complicated

[spice fossil]

i imported in unity and the jacket doesnt show up

wait

nvm!

thank you!!!

[wheat horizon]

I have a question, how do I export a fbx to blender and then back to unity. I needed to fix the weight paint of a asset I bought but idk how to export it back into unity without it imploding on itself, i swear it used to be way easier than this

[somber sequoia]

just import the .fbx that's already in your project into Blender.
When exporting back to Unity, make sure you set "Apply Scalings" to whatever it was previously.... or just FBX All as a good assumption.

Also make sure you didn't unpack the avatar prefab in Unity

[wheat horizon]

nope didnt work

[somber sequoia]

works for me, every time.

You may have to redo the rig setup if the settings aren't the same as before

[wheat horizon]

just to be sure can you check this

[somber sequoia]

the only things I suggest changing for most people are "Apply Scalings" and then unchecking "Add Leaf Bones"

But if that isn't what was used last time... it'll be a mismatch that might result in weird things.

no, I mean the line which literally says "apply scalings"

[wheat horizon]

yeah i have both those options the way you said there

[somber sequoia]

ok that's how I suggest doing it. If that doesn't work perhaps the last time it was export to that .fbx file, different settings were used

[wheat horizon]

damn used to not be this hard back in the day

[somber sequoia]

this hasn't really changed since at least when Blender 2.9 was popular

[wheat horizon]

i changed one weight so no idea why it isnt working

[somber sequoia]

what exactly is happening?

[wheat horizon]

I bought an asset and whoever made it accidentally rigged part of a backpack strap to the neck so the vertex gets thrown out in game

[somber sequoia]

ooh that's annoying

[wheat horizon]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

but I mean when you exported and it didn't work - exactly how didn't it work?

[wheat horizon]

cant put it back in unity without it disappearing pretty much

[somber sequoia]

and you didn't unpack the model prefab, right?

[wheat horizon]

nope didnt touch it

[somber sequoia]

ok well you could try redoing the rig setup, or drag a new copy into the scene and copying everything over (perhaps with Pumkin's tools)

[wheat horizon]

I get pretty confused with pumkins tools

i usually just give up and do it all manually lol

[somber sequoia]

yeah I don't even have it installed, haven't needed it in years

[wheat horizon]

last time i tried using it it just broke my model and dont really know what i should or shouldnt have checked so i gave up

[dark jay]

what does local only do in vrc avatar parameter driver

[somber sequoia]

iirc sets it in the local animator only, doesn't make it sync

[dark jay]

so if i turn it off then everyone will see it?

[somber sequoia]

I believe so

[dark jay]

alright

[primal fog]

I'm a little stumped on this and finally decided to ask for help so I've been making an avatar and I've been kinda stuck on how I should go about the eye and well any facial features for it to move correctly whenever I make the blendshapes this what I have

[nova saffron]

For someone with little knowledge with making avatars/optimizing what tools could I use to help optimize an asset?

[ornate stump]

Blender.

[shell pilot]

I have a problem with the vr I can't move at all like the joysticks I just can't move I can look around and look at the menu and such but I just can't move like it's stuck I tried to factory reset the headset but it just won't work someone please help

[ornate stump]

Can you change avatar?

[shell pilot]

Yeah I think I haven't checked rn it's charging

[ornate stump]

Try changing avatar first. If it you're using something sketchy, it might locked you.

[shell pilot]

Wdym sketchy?

[ornate stump]

Something that isn't made by you. Something that's isn't well known in public. Something that's made to be malicious.

[shell pilot]

Ohh

Like isn't built well?

[regal tulip]

How are those 2D South Park avatars made

[shell pilot]

I can go check rn

[ornate stump]

It has to be intentional.

[merry holly]

Some avatars have locking features where the entire avatar is locked and it prevents you from moving

[shell pilot]

Ohh

Oh

Daum

I didn't know

Let me go check

[regal tulip]

[ornate stump]

Probably png avatar but with animated spritesheet.

[regal tulip]

Where do I find that

I tried looking for tutorials and no help

[ornate stump]

"Where" in what sense?

[regal tulip]

YouTube Google

[regal tulip]

Animated sprite sheets

[ornate stump]

I don't know any tutorial that can help you.

[regal tulip]

Sorry I thought you were asking something else

[merry holly]

This seems like it should work. I found it within 10 seconds of searching on YouTube
https://youtu.be/N-oRlEv36E0

[ornate stump]

In summary, it's using material with animated textures offset. The texture consist of many image of a character animated. You could just google to see what "spritesheet" is because it's common in game and cg.

[merry holly]

A basic overview as well would be:

You basically make a long image (tilesheet) where, say, if you had 256x256 tiles, with 8 tiles, it'd be 256x2048. You can animate the X axis in your material/shader using blend trees/FX layers, based on whatever you want. A popular one would be doing viseme-based.

[regal tulip]

Now I just need to find South Park sprite sheets that got the show uses a style that is simple to rig

[merry holly]

you can also just make them

using something like Krita or any image editor

[ornate stump]

Avatar can't use sprite renderer, that's only for world.

[regal tulip]

I’m mainly trying to make South Park characters that haven’t gotten a avatar yet

[shell pilot]

I can't change my avi since I factory reset the vr it removed all the ones I saved and when I go to a room I can't move at all its like in stuck with the avi I have rn it started since I put that avi on

😭

[ornate stump]

Favourite avatars are cloud saved. Factory reset shouldn't remove it.

[shell pilot]

I don't have the Avis I put on and saved

[ornate stump]

Have you never favorite any avatar at all?

[shell pilot]

I have

[ornate stump]

Those should be still in your favorite avatar list.

[shell pilot]

I didn't see em

[ornate stump]

There should be some public avatar that you can use in avatar menu. Or you could even use some avatar sample from marketplace menu.

[shell pilot]

But you have to buy em?

[ornate stump]

Juse Preview it.

[shell pilot]

Oh ok ill try that

[ornate stump]

The public ones are totally free.

[shell pilot]

It doesn't show me that at all just the ones you buy

[ornate stump]

Don't you ever scroll the menu down?

[shell pilot]

I do

[ornate stump]

Look for the Public category.

[shell pilot]

Just shows me the purchase ones

Ill try

[inland seal]

Anyone knows how to fix this problem?

[ornate stump]

The package is asking for ShaderOptimizer which likely is the one from poiyomi shader.

[inland seal]

And how do I get it

[ornate stump]

It should be the first thing show up when searching in google.

[inland seal]

I already have it installed on unity

[ornate stump]

Is it really? Can you screenshot where you had it in unity?

[ornate stump]

Clear console and see whether the error show up again.

[inland seal]

It does

[ornate stump]

So that mean the package require some specific version of poiyomi shader. Maybe older one because the script namespace had been changed since poiyomi 9.

[inland seal]

Not really

All my other materials are on the same version and they work just fine and I could publish the model before

[ornate stump]

Do you know what AvaCrypt does?

[inland seal]

yes

Why do I need that?

If you mean that it's invasive

It's not

[ornate stump]

Just checking if you added this by you intentionally.

[ornate stump]

Does it cause the issue once you added this package?

[inland seal]

no

I have been using it for weeks and it started only today

[ornate stump]

Did you did something like importing other package or update something between that time?

[inland seal]

no

Let me try something, I'll check the code

[ornate stump]

Does the package say it requires specific version of poiyomi?

[inland seal]

I found the problem

The script itself had wrong version set so I just changed it inside the script configuration

now it works

[unkempt sail]

Is it possible to make an avatar contactor trigger with a particle?

[ornate stump]

No.

[frosty junco]

how can I make a plane invisible while keeping the gif on it visible?

im using poiyomi for shaders

[balmy barn]

try alpha on material setting , if texture has any parts will be transparent

[frosty junco]

is there a specific setting where I can turn the alpha up without turning the flipbook component invisible aswell?

[inland seal]

This is so annoying, How do I make it smooth instead of being like this

[ornate stump]

Subdivide.

[inland seal]

Its 2 differend models Joined together

Also subdivision wont work

[ornate stump]

Why not?

[inland seal]

Because I tried it?

;D

[ornate stump]

Did you smooth out the faces after that?

[inland seal]

yes

[ornate stump]

Are the edges connected?

[inland seal]

yes

[ornate stump]

How the topology looks like?

[inland seal]

I'll just send this

[ornate stump]

That's really bad.

[inland seal]

Idk blender

[ornate stump]

You need at least evenly space out vertices.

[ornate stump]

This makes face corners too sharp and cause interpolation off as the result you see.

[inland seal]

nvm

[inland seal]

It was this button

Clear Custom Split Normals Data

Much better

But thx for help

I'll clean the vertices

[inland seal]

Is this good enough now?

[ornate stump]

Good enough

[prisma monolith]

i positioned my particles what do i do next? I want them to shoot when i have the gun toggle on and when i press fist

[balmy barn]

Togglegun bool? = true and GestureRight = 1 > trigger stuff ( or left) , can add multiple conditions in transitions

[prisma monolith]

if u dont mind can u show me how through like call or something? sorry im new to all of this

[balmy barn]

im busy but there is how id do it

blendtree way bit more fiddly to do

[prisma monolith]

ok thanks for this but how do i get to that again? I've been so used to using vrcfury i kind of forgot the other method of setting this stuff up

[pine valley]

this would be a layer in an animator controller

[prisma monolith]

thanks i found it

i've decided to do my gun toggle without vrcfury and go the animation route so i can properly use the layers

[somber sequoia]

you can also select the faces, then in the menu: mesh -> normals -> reset vectors

[prisma monolith]

how do i fix paramater does not exist in controller

[somber sequoia]

Add the parameter to the controller

[prisma monolith]

how?

[somber sequoia]

there's a plus button in the animation controller's parameter list

[prisma monolith]

screenshot?

[somber sequoia]

I don't have Unity open. Just find your animation controller, click on it, then in the Animator window (not Animation), there's a parameters tab.

[prisma monolith]

ok i see it

[somber sequoia]

Type the parameter name exactly.

[prisma monolith]

im trying to replicate this

from a guide im watching

i figured it out

does anyone know the hand gesture id's?

nvm i found em

[somber sequoia]

they're liste- k.

[stuck wadi]

how do i change the floor hight cause my avatar is pawning in the sky

[somber sequoia]

you don't, the floor is at 0,0,0. If your avatar isn't, put it there.... which likely means doing so in blender (or similar).

[stuck wadi]

ok

[stuck wadi]

yeah i tried to change it but i keep getting this when i re import it

[somber sequoia]

change it how?

[stuck wadi]

idk i just put the model at 0,0,0 in blender'

[somber sequoia]

Did you apply all transforms after doing that? If not, do so.

[stuck wadi]

ok

done

[zinc thunder]

if you made a fallback version of your avatar and a regular version with more features

will people see you use the toggle on your fallback if both versions have it?

[arctic ginkgo]

it doesn't really matter what the file type is, the only way to upload an avatar is to use Unity. I'm guessing you're converting a vtuber avatar to a vrchat avatar?

[arctic ginkgo]

I don't believe parameters sync to the fallback, but I'm not 100% sure

[zinc thunder]

that's my own question not connected to yours

[pine rapids]

Oh sorry

[zinc thunder]

mb

[arctic ginkgo]

this was a question separate from yours, they were asking if fallback toggles will sync when you wear an avatar with the same parameters

[pine rapids]

Yeah, gotcha my bad

[arctic ginkgo]

fallbacks are simplified versions of avatars displayed to others when your avatar is performance blocked, though they are being depricated in favor of impostors

[night ember]

Hyper optmized not simplified

As long as it fits good quality on android you are fine

[arctic ginkgo]

I don't believe you can change your fallback anymore without VRCX, and if your avatar has an impostor (most do because they are automatically generated now) then the fallback won't show, the impostor will

[zinc thunder]

no you can do it on the actual unity file for your avatar

[arctic ginkgo]

oh really? I didn't think the SDK let you set your fallback still

iirc you can't change it in game anymore though

[zinc thunder]

tbh

i think vrchat should let us upload impostor versions of avatars

to the same avatar file

like avatar-specific fallbacks

[night ember]

Make a canny for it

[zinc thunder]

?

[zinc thunder]

wdym

I've never heard of that

[somber sequoia]

it's the service VRChat uses for their bug/suggestion site

[night ember]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/

[zinc thunder]

ohhh

[pliant token]

Good afternoon everyone. Can anyone help me? I'm trying to create a skin to use in VRchat, but it's not showing up in the SDK. Can anyone help me?

[honest swallow]

I need help so badly as well, I'm trying to fix my avatar where it's stuck in a pose on PC.

On PC, all the gestures work, but the model doesnt move at all
On Quest, the model moves, almost all the toggles work, but none of the gogo poses work.

[ornate stump]

You will have to acquire 3D model to use as avatar from other place. Otherwise, there only is a sample robot model which you can't really edit it.

[ornate stump]

On PC, it what does it actually do if it doesn't move?

[honest swallow]

It's stuck in a motorcycle pose, then when I have it move, it goes through the floor

I've tried the YT tutorials, but it still does it

[ornate stump]

Did you make sure that you have something assigned in Playable Layers section for the Base layer?

[honest swallow]

Would you be able to show me where that is..? I've only been using Unity for a couple of days

[ornate stump]

It's in avatar descriptor. If you had watched some tutorial, you should have been on it at least once.

[pliant token]

Can you help me with this call, please?

[ornate stump]

No.

[ornate stump]

To begin with, you should read this post first #1139228456090087495 message

[pliant token]

I downloaded the 3D avatar model, but this screen doesn't appear:
@ornate stump

[pliant token]

This screen is from a video.This photo I took is from a video.

[ornate stump]

Do you see the "VRChat SDK" menu on the topbar menu?

[pliant token]

No

[ornate stump]

There will be something like "Show SDK panel" button in it.

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot your unity then?

[pliant token]

I'll open the project again and then I'll send it.

[zinc thunder]

do you think I should add this as an image alongside the feedback? would this help explain it?

[night ember]

if you want to

[pliant token]

@ornate stump

[ornate stump]

Did you click on "Open Project" to open unity?

[pliant token]

Yes.

[ornate stump]

Strange that it opened with admin privilege.

[balmy barn]

not sure id ever put a project in appdata tend to put stuff on other drives if you have more , easier to nuke os drive

[pliant token]

When I downloaded Unity, I set it up for all users, and then it was run as administrator.

[ornate stump]

That's pretty much exposed security hole on your pc. But that should be unrelated reason.

[pliant token]

Will I need to reinstall?

[ornate stump]

You should. I might also as well resolve the issue.

[pliant token]

Like this?

[ornate stump]

This?

[pliant token]

"I might also as well resolve the issue."

How do you manage to solve it?

[ornate stump]

No. I made typo

It might also as well resolve the issue.

Reinstalling I mean.

[honest swallow]

Where do I get the VRChat runtime?

[somber sequoia]

just X that unless you have something to add into there.

Also don't put base in additive if it's already in base, x that one too

[pliant token]

Okay, should I reinstall only Unity, or the VRChat Creator Companion as well?

[ornate stump]

Just Unity.

[ornate stump]

Hit the X button on Additive and Action.

[honest swallow]

Is there anything else? It's still doing it

[ornate stump]

What do you have on the playable layers now?

[honest swallow]

yeah it's still not working

[ornate stump]

Try with default Gesture too.

[wary orchid]

Hey folks, i'm trying to remove a tail from an avatar, i successfully loaded the model in blender and deleted it, and patched over the hole. There appears to be a wierd shadow/lighting effect that is occuring and I'm not sure what it is. Someone suggested normals weren't good, but I recalculated normals and nothing changed.

Goal is to get a smooth surface matching the rest of the surface.

I'm super new to blender so go easy on me 🙂

[stray trench]

cats blender plugin only works with 3.5 or lower right?

[arctic ginkgo]

it could be an issue with a normal map, or with custom normals. You can try removing custom normals in the vertex data tab under "geometry" (at the bottom). If it's a normal map, you'll need to make sure the patch is UV mapped correctly and you may be able to use photo editing or drawing software to correct it

It definitely is an issue with normals, but normals can be affected by multiple things

[balmy barn]

cats work up to blender 5 , use the unoffical one , im on 4.5 cause its lts

[stray trench]

lts?

[balmy barn]

some addons i have probably will hate 5 had to mess with some to get it work on 4.5 , lts - long term support , blender like to change stuff too much , lts wont

its done , so just minor changes

[honest swallow]

Omg! Ty so so much!

[ornate stump]

So that mean your gesture layer is invalid somehow. Did you create it yourself?

[honest swallow]

No, It's an avatar I bought

[ornate stump]

You might have to contact the author to resolve the issue.

[honest swallow]

I joined their discord and attempted to contact, but since its an old avatar, they didn't reply

[ornate stump]

What an irresponsible author.

[wary orchid]

@arctic ginkgo WTF, i followed your steps, and clear normals data was there, i cleared it and now it's perfect. I definitely tried to clear this last night, couldn't find it on the F3 fast search menu, so assumed there was no custom data. Wild. Thank you so much.

Now I just have to suck less at the rest of blender. See y'all in 800 years

[honest swallow]

I know but the avatar is to die for so ❤️
But bless you, you've helped me when ppl wouldn't unless I paid!
You're a lifesaver!

[night ember]

thats a bit of an optimistic time frame tbh

[wary orchid]

Gotta stay positive in these trying times

[night ember]

there is no way to not suck at blender lmao

[somber sequoia]

haha

[wary orchid]

honestly im surprised i got this far, the last time i installed blender i stared at it for 5 minutes, got a migraine and uninstalled it

[night ember]

mood

[somber sequoia]

haha yeah

[wary orchid]

helps to have a blender knowing waifu, I recommend one of those

[gaunt knoll]

fr i do my hubbys all the time

[winged sandal]

is it possible for a shader to get the value of a parameter?

[somber sequoia]

No, but you could use that parameter to drive animation that sets a material property

[dark jay]

how do i make eyes not move when toggling a specific toggle

[wary orchid]

i actually have the blender waifu, she is assisting now

it is going terribly 😄

[gaunt knoll]

Add a VRCAnimatorTrackingControl i think it has one for the eyes

[dark jay]

i thought disabling the eye bones might but ill try that

[dark jay]

where do i add that

[dark jay]

the vrcanimatortracking control

[gaunt knoll]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/

[agile reef]

im trying to work with poiyomi shaders dissolve and im currently making the toggle for a harness that has two materials- the leather and the metal but when I go to record the dissolve on the metal, its blue as in "already animated" but like, it only dissolves the leather not the metal-

how do I get it to affect the other attached material as well?

[somber sequoia]

"attached" material?

by default, that ^ affects all materials on that MeshRenderer.

[agile reef]

OH I didnt have the second material on cutout- nvm x. x thank you

[somber sequoia]

ahhh, that'll do it

[timber wharf]

ye usually its the other way around and you use rename on lock for poi so all the materials are not affected by animation meant only for one

[agile reef]

got itt thank you guys! ❤️

[inland seal]

Can I join shape keys?

Because I got a problem that every shape key makes my tail break

So I want to take the old shape keys

Before Shape keys is used:

After:

And it also breaks the face itself

Mostly whole model

[agile reef]

im sorry to ping, I thought you might help me again- when I set this material to cut out- the whole thing went invisible but it has a texture? When I click the reset button it removes the texture and the normal map but it works, which means is there a setting I have on here enabled?

[timber wharf]

@inland seal goto edit mode, select whatever shapekey verticies and reference state is, find 'propagate to shapekeys' in upper menus

ie select shapekey with a proper tail state, select tail only, propagate it to other shapekeys

[somber sequoia]

cutout discards pixels with alpha below that alpha cutoff threshold. Dunno what your textures look like.
Also not sure if this applies to you but I usually have issues enabling too many poi features at once, it'll just break unless locked.
ALso also - that poi is way old, why not upgrade to the latest? It supports Light Volumes 🙂

[agile reef]

well, im editing an avatar I have and it uses that so I didnt want to break anything by updating it- and with animating I cant edit locked materials so- I wouldnt know how to do the toggle like that

[minor patio]

Is there a simo hayha Avatar if not can someone make one

[somber sequoia]

I meant that if you lock it and it shows up, then this is the issue, too many features enabled. You can work around that.

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214 maybe

[agile reef]

ok I see- I did lock it and test but no that didn't work.. ill probably just have to click the reset and re-apply those textures tedious- but itll work lol

[somber sequoia]

yeah not sure what would be causing that then, nothing I see in that image.

[inland seal]

I'll try that tmr, gtg sleep

[civic sinew]

Could someone upload an avitar for me? I can’t figure out unity for the life of me…

[tough marsh]

why is this happening when i use gesture manager?? she has a neck bone and it's properly mapped

[dense meadow]

alright im losin it. trying to set up an avatar and for whatever reason the finger bones keep messing up weirdly when imported to unity. ive tried and checked everything ive seen from looking it up: ensuring its named correctly, ensuring things are configured correctly in unity, bones are parented correctly in blender, exported using fbx settings, weightpainting is correct in blender, im just sort of at a loss. blender vs unity pictures

[tough marsh]

have you tried checking bone roll in blender? done wonders for me with issues like this

[dense meadow]

iiiii have not as i have no idea what that is! how do you do that?

[tough marsh]

select a bone in edit mode, select tool and replace whatever number is on 'roll' to 0 ^_^

[dense meadow]

for a brief moment i thought we were onto something cause the funky bones all had funky numbers, but fixed it and still nope :,)

ill also add that for whatever reason, it automatically assigns the chest bone as the spine in unity? which is easy enough to change but i wonder if that might have something to do with it somehow??

[somber sequoia]

Unity guesses... sometimes right, sometimes wrong. If you know better than it, correct it.

my main avatar it gets the legs entirely wrong, 'cause I have a complicated digitgrade thing going on. Just part of the joy of setup 🙂

[dense meadow]

yea, thats not a big deal, easy to change. just wonderin if that guessing is whats making the fingers go all wonky lol

its just so weird

[somber sequoia]

hard to say from there, I'd check them in Blender, make sure they move right in pose mode.

[dense meadow]

they do :,) further messing about makes me think its something going wonky with t pose mode. cause when i try to move the avatars finger bones to the right position, it says its not in t pose

[somber sequoia]

it does have very particular ideas of what t-pose means

[dense meadow]

does it matter if it considers it in t pose?

[night ember]

yes and no

what unity believes to be in tpose no

the actual model visually being in tpose in the rig window yes

thats what it animates off of

[dense meadow]

alr im done im redownloaidng the base and resetting it up, im just gonna assume mine was broken somehow lmao

[rapid void]

got a weird question, first time ever doing stuff in blender
got everything set up to my model, but when trying to put it into unity there are no shaders nor can i put any on-
how do i go bout fixing that

[tender hatch]

hiii! so im using unity and substance painter for literally the first time ever - how does one perchance import a model from unity to substance painter?

[foggy wadi]

I'm assuming you mean it is greyed out in unity, detaching the materials from the prefab seemed to work for me but I'm a complete noob too so dont quote me on that one.

[rapid void]

Detaching materials-? Where would that button be at?

[foggy wadi]

Huh, at the bottom where the assets are and all that, find your prefab and click the little arrow, it should expand and show you the materials, right click those and there should be an option to detach those.

[rapid void]

Gotcha, I’ll try that

[vapid oar]

Just export the textures

Wait nvm

I read that backwards lmao

[tender hatch]

SOBS im trying so hard

my partner wants me to make them an avatar while knowing i have NOOOO knowledge and im trying really hard using a base ;^;

realized all my work with unity was useless bc i need the quest avatar so now i have to use blender.... sigh

[plucky drum]

so, im making the quest version of my model and for it i needed to make a quest version of the gun. problem is the animations are made in unitys animator for the PC Version, the rigs are identical but it looks like i cant just use the PCs animations for the Quest versions, is there any way to take the animation from 1 rig and put it on another identical rig?

[proven quail]

remove 'QUEST' from the name. Thats why your animations can't find the stuff.

[plucky drum]

oh alr, fixed 2 out of 3 of em

[proven quail]

the third I am not sure, I am taking a closer look now

can I see the hierarchy better? its cut off

[proven quail]

looks like it wants Rig/whatever not Pilot Rig Sub/..

change that, but that could break other things. You could duplicate the animation and edit it via f4 i believe it is

[plucky drum]

the PC versions were done ages ago so i def fucked up and have diff rig names for the pilots

[proven quail]

that key allows you to edit the reference names in animations

[plucky drum]

can i just copy the keyframes from one anim to the other?

[proven quail]

ctrl + d on the animation in assets, and edit the duplicated animation

the keybind is f2, not f4

just replace 'Rig' with 'Pilot Rig Sub' in all the references in the animation

[plucky drum]

i did, and it fixed part of the error

now all thats left is this

the weird part is that exact path is present

[ocean snow]

I connected the bones. parented this hand to another body but it does this when i move arm in pose mode how do I fix this?

[proven quail]

that is strange. im looking closely to see if there is any extra spaces or some misspelling. the computers are very picky and case sensitive with animation references

[plucky drum]

i see what part of the animation clip is broken. idm just redoing that part its super simple so u can focus on other ppl who need help lol

its just the micro movement adjustments to keep the gun spinning around the finger, nothin too bad

it got the complex animations like the reloading working fine thankfully

[proven quail]

weight paint. the vertexes not moving with the gloves might have been weight painted to the lowerArm of the last model and not your current one, now they don't have any weight paint there

[ocean snow]

ah i see

[wild isle]

so this outfit for some reason does this when i load into play mode through gesture manager, how do i fix this?

it's only the shoulders, legs are fine

the outfit is changing the blend shapes on the shoulders to 100, i know that much i just don't know why

[modern osprey]

Hi I want to have an avatar commission that will have a cowboy hat and a eyepatch but I want to have it removable and stuff looking for the right person

[lilac musk]

An animation is changing it. Gotta find the animation and change/remove it

[lilac musk]

You'll want to go to #1204490664637890580 and find VRCTraders. Only people you'll get here are scammers.

[wild isle]

thanks

[modern osprey]

Oh dang fr? Okay thanks

[dark jay]

what causes physbones to jitter

[night ember]

no one really knows

my only guess would be float point precision overcompensating cause if you set the momentum higher it jitters less

[idle patrol]

Guys I need like help bro before i cry (out of anger) over this stupid blender issue

..I try and merge my bones on my model and they wont connect with the bones on the body and it does this for all of my clothes

[night ember]

wdym connect

[idle patrol]

mergeing

[night ember]

that doesnt answer my question

[idle patrol]

Okay i dont know how to answer?

the clothes wont follow the arm

or anything

[night ember]

well is the correct armature selected

[idle patrol]

yes

[night ember]

are you sure?

idk how you transferred the mesh over or what you did specifically

[idle patrol]

I figured it out

[dense meadow]

update for anyone wondering- i must have done something weird at some point because its working perfectly fine now lmao

[proud dagger]

How can a check an asset size in my unity to know what size it is taking up

[naive ridge]

Helloooo! I needed some help here. I don't have a pc but I bought a quest compatible avatar from payhip. Could someone help me download it to my account?

Btw, if this is not how it works I apologize

[proud dagger]

What type of avatar is it if u have the link?

[somber sequoia]

it's not how it works - you need a PC to build and upload avatars.

[naive ridge]

Strange....may I get some help on how to do things like this?

[somber sequoia]

that's what this channel is for

[naive ridge]

Prefect, my question is....how will I do this on mobile? I'm on my phone and all. I'll send you an image of where im at rn

[somber sequoia]

Again, you don't - you need a PC: https://creators.vrchat.com/sdk/

[proud dagger]

I can help upload and u can show me do and u can ask questions only if i have your consent

[naive ridge]

Ofc

I'd love the help, im new to this.

[proud dagger]

ofc let me no when u r ready

[naive ridge]

All ready

[calm mirage]

so i bought a model that has a bunch of preset toggles i can add but i cant figure out how to add them T_T is anyone able to help this is my first time trying to upload a avatar

[night ember]

thats pretty vague
what avatar is it

[calm mirage]

like specific name or type? cause name wise its kanata bluestella and type its part human part furry idk its actual name

[night ember]

can you link it

[calm mirage]

https://booth.pm/en/items/6813995

[night ember]

should just already have the toggles set up

[calm mirage]

🤦‍♂️ i feel so dumb now LMAO i went through so much trouble trying to get everything in there not realizing they had a file for the entire thing

thank you for your help diven

[merry ermine]

Im gonna assume people here should have good experience with Unity.. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?? Unity is not telling me what the source of the problem is and Im super duper annoyed

See like THIS is fine other stuff is too Im so confused?

cuh

yup lemme say it monotonely

or however you spell it

what the freak is an index woohhoo im so robotic /nm

Its one am dude Ive been trying to fix this since 11 pm

😐

[ornate stump]

Have you tried restarting unity?

[merry ermine]

Oohh maybe..

[still thunder]

how am i getting this error when there was never an ID in the slot to begin with?

[junior void]

the error is a symptom of another issue and the message itself couldnt be more misleading

[still thunder]

what is the other issue?

[junior void]

could be a plethora of things. do you not have more errors above that one?

[still thunder]

the shader warnings are something i always get and have had no issues uploading with

telling me build successfull, but never actually adds the avatar to my content manager

[junior void]

Maybe it's due to the maximum height

[ornate stump]

That's "Build & Test" so it's only for local testing.

[cobalt cloak]

do i have to fix that

[gaunt knoll]

vrcfury have their own discord use that

[cobalt cloak]

ah okay thx

[inland seal]

Why any gesture (even blinking) do this to my avi

Theres no visible issues in blender, only Unity does this

[inland seal]

The problem is that the lighting and the model bends and breaks

[ornate stump]

Have you enabled "Legacy Blendshape Normals"?

[inland seal]

Where

[ornate stump]

In the model import settings. Or you could even look into the sdk build panel and it shows the Autofix button for it.

[inland seal]

Ill try

[inland seal]

Bruh

I did Auto Fix on everything else btw

Where is this located?

[ornate stump]

The Rig tab in your model import settings.

[inland seal]

Found it?

[ornate stump]

Yes. Map it.

[inland seal]

About that

I dont have a Spine bone existing

I mean

I can just get my old model and apply the bones from it

[ornate stump]

You have to add spine bone then.

[inland seal]

;D

[ornate stump]

Do you mean it existed before or you are trying to get bone from other model?

[pearl wolf]

Interesting to know even the most optimised Quest prefab with more optimization isn't enough for the crappy 10mb limit 😭

its not possible to lower this

[inland seal]

I think I removed it by accident

Not a big deal

I'll fix it

[ornate stump]

It's reporting the size of previous build which may be PC build.

[pearl wolf]

Its the same quest one I tried to upload before

Keyword quest prefab

Also

Another version I tried had broken texture memory

The textures are compressed in unity and are 500kb outside of it

Strange bug for sure as no other textures exist

[ornate stump]

Use Thry's Avatar Performance tool to inspect the excessive size.

[pearl wolf]

Does it identify what is taking it up

[ornate stump]

Most of the time yes.

[pearl wolf]

Ill give it a go thank you

💜

[cobalt cloak]

wie mache ich das wen ich den hoody greife im vrchat ich ihn runterziehen kann so wie im video

[kind heath]

you'll probably want a bone, weightpaint the hood to it and then use a grabbable physbone to be able to move it i'd assume

[cobalt cloak]

so one bone for the hood

[kind heath]

not sure on the specifics, I haven't done that myself before, but probably?

there's probably tutorials out there

[cobalt cloak]

okay

ill try

Oh dear God, please help me.

[sand olive]

Hey guys. Recently, I adapted my character for VRChat, but I’m not really happy with the result. I have a question: how can I achieve proper PBR reflections for the material shown in the screenshot? I know it depends on the instance lighting\HDR, but let's assume we are in a well-lit world. Do you know any shaders or have any tips on how to improve the look?

[junior void]

I recommend poiyomi for PC

[somber sequoia]

Looks like a game rip. probably not a huge problem, but it's not that much work to edit the rig and snap the bone tails to the child bone's head.

[cobalt cloak]

i still dont know how i shoud do that with the hood so i fix that later

[inland seal]

I reamade the whole model and made it more easy to use and after uploading all the problem faded

Only the textures are broken a little but its an easy fix

Thx for help

I really like my work I did

[stable isle]

Would anyone be able to help me with a situation?

Currently on my outfit, i made it where there's a physical zipper you can pull.

• The "heart" zipper follows a track of 5 points, each of which are "vrc parent constrained" to the body at different amounts to prevent clipping.
• The zipper animates down the path by changing the weights in its own vrc parent constraint
• I use blend trees to offset the points by adusting their "offset" from various bones in the constraints (this is to match body augments done, like body thickness or breast size)

3 main problem points:

• when scaling the model in unity or vrchat, the points disconnect from the body, due to those offsets from the constraints
• fixing it would require the offsets to be set to 0 for all those constraints, which isn't fesable for the body, due to how it needs to bend at different rates
• making animations to protect against these is very time-consuming

I need to find a fix or new solution that:

• still allows for the zipper pathing visually
• allows for body customization like breast size and thickness
• doesn't break during avatar scaling

[inland seal]

oh, one more problem, why does the head tilt like that in play mode?

[reef zealot]

Anyone have any ideas why my avatar would be by default partially into the floor? Afaik the white line is supposed to signify the ground and the avatar's relation to it, yet my avatar still sinks a little into the ground across every world I've tested it in

Scale is 1, 1, 1 and position is 0, 0, 0

[errant comet]

Possible that the origin is not actually at 0, can check in blender

[reef zealot]

It is, I checked that too

[ancient grotto]

I need help. I'm trying to upload an avatar I bought, and I'm having trouble uploading it for both pc and quest. The pc version has shaders and the instructions it came with tell me to have the pc and quest builds in their own individual project files

[balmy barn]

base locomotion it will sink slightly into ground

turn it off and notice it doesnt do that (fbt toggle)

[inland seal]

It became even worse

Atleast now the Textures are fixed

[clever needle]

Sorry to ask but I've been using VRCQuestTools for awhile but now it won't even convert stuff anymore, of course I can do it all manually which isn't horrible but what is going on here?

[somber sequoia]

try unlocking that shader first

[clever needle]

Will do

No dice :/

Coudl just be poiyomi... Lemme try a differnet shader

[mossy kayak]

why is the right foot collider all the way over there? even if i reset it to defaults it's over there. the bone is correctly mapped

[mellow scaffold]

why???

[mossy kayak]

if i set it to automatic, the right one's in the correct position but they're too close together

alright aparently it was because my avatar was moved away from the center of the scene. oddly it didn't do this with the other colliders, they were properly mirrored.

[clever needle]

Ok yeah, Liltoon gave me the same error

[vapid slate]

hey so... taught my friend how to upload but this error keeps popping up even though everything is already updated?

[clever needle]

Time to do it manually-

[junior void]

your sdk is not updated

[vapid slate]

it is but it keeps saying it...

[junior void]

proof?

[inland seal]

Still asking

[somber sequoia]

check the head bone position and bone roll, redo rig setup if you changed something since a previous import

[pine valley]

Resetting the humanoid rig should do the trick

the exact 90 degree error makes me think you adjusted a bone orientation in Blender

which is fine, but Unity still thinks the bone should point another way

[somber sequoia]

Yep, probably that's it, but of course, we don't actually know

[pine valley]

the humanoid animation system knows that a bone is "neutral" when it's in a certain orientation

and if that orientation is very goofy, then...

stares at the floor

[junior void]

the avatar is just shy

[inland seal]

oke

[inland seal]

I did rotate it a little

[inland seal]

XD

[inland seal]

Uh, how do I redo the Rig?

Also its in blender?

or unity

[somber sequoia]

check/fix bone roll in blender, redo the rig in unity by setting it to generic, apply, then doing the standard humanoid rig setup process

[inland seal]

ok

[mellow scaffold]

gotta check your sdks

[plucky drum]

im updating the quest versions of mine and a friends avatars to add a weapon system i made. the one on my pc and quest avatar works but when copy pasting the system over to the other avatar in the scene upon trying to upload it spits out this error. the 2 models and their rigs and set ups are identical, the only differences being the friends model has another item toggle and different emmissions

[keen jay]

Does anyone know how to make bendy arms? I've seen a jester with long arms but both reddit and chat gpt have been no help, I have fake arm bones that follow the default structure and the chain of deforming bones (that have been moved down) that actually deform the arm. How to I make it follow the hand using vrc bone constraints?

[urban pier]

hello i was wondering if i could get some help with this?

[somber sequoia]

robot hand has a constraint with the VRChat IK-driven hand bone as the source. Repeat for all bones.

[somber sequoia]

Must have a chest bone between spine bone and neck.

[urban pier]

I'll look into that

Thanks

Added the chest and its still shows the errors

[keen jay]

Does vrc have IK? I've never been able to find it... Also sorry toyLindsey I don't mean to crowd the chat:(

[somber sequoia]

It does but it's not something that you can do anything with. Though you can use some FinalIK components if you want to.

[urban pier]

from my pov that IS mapped but idk what im missing

[somber sequoia]

In the inspector in the rig tab right before you click "configure" to go to that ^ view, is there a warning message?

[plucky drum]

i can literally trace and look at where its saying this toggle doesnt exist and see that it exists aswell as seing an identical model uploading just fine without this same error

[urban pier]

do you mean the console?

[urban pier]

No there is no warning message it actually sends me to a completely different part of the inspector

[somber sequoia]

I'd have said so if I did.

But ok - often right there is a message suggesting you look in a dropdown in that same tab

[urban pier]

you mean the auto mapping?\

[somber sequoia]

?

[urban pier]

Had to switch to my phone

[balmy barn]

much clearer way to taking a screen shot, just paste into discord after

[urban pier]

also if i hit select this where it takes me for the error

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure why you're pointing this out

[urban pier]

idk either...

[mellow scaffold]

i gave him new eyes, to try and fix his cross-eyed look in unity:\

i dunno what to do

[somber sequoia]

check bone roll for the eye bones probably.

[mellow scaffold]

whats bone roll

?

[somber sequoia]

setting on bones that changes which angle it is basically. You can check it in Blender

[mellow scaffold]

this roll at the bottom?

i just made it zero

[somber sequoia]

yep, that roll. Eyes should be 0, and they should be perfectly straight up and down Those look like the head & tails are at slightly different X,Y

[mellow scaffold]

oksy, tysm

oh gosh i made it worse💔

[dark jay]

Anyone have any ideas how i can make a effect like the right

[plucky drum]

Update, despite changing nothing it's now broken for both avatars.

Image 1 is the toggle for the PC avi

Image 2 is the toggle for the Quest Avi

I can actually see where the toggle is and that it has the same name and identical position in the hierarchy

Yet I keep getting this error

PC avis hierarchy

quest Avis Hierarchy

the names of the 2p ackages are different, 1 is G2A2 while the other is Quest Shit2 but ive already accounted for that

[trim rover]

i need some help, for some rason any time i try and use the toon lit shader it turns everything red

[ornate stump]

Likely because of vertex color. You could use Toon Standard shader instead.

[trim rover]

how do i fix the vertex color?

[ornate stump]

Remove vertex color attribute by using blender.

[plucky drum]

the hierarchy's are identical i dont know why its saying some toggles arent present on the PC version im literally looking at them in the position its saying they arent present

[trim rover]

thanks

[near ice]

how does one do a headswap?

[gilded gorge]

Ok so I plan on making an avi from scratch for myself. What programs do I use to make the body and clothes and everything.

[plucky drum]

blender

[weary bloom]

Hello! I just got a Vrchat model and i was trying to upload it but was told i couldt because of security reasons. how long would i need to wait till i can upload set avatar on my Vrchat Account?

[rare jacinth]

need a lil help. i made a tummy rub using vrcfury. i tried to add a purr to it using a audio source. this is all under 1 contact. the animations work. however the purr starts before i use the contact to touch the tummy to make the contact work. this is all in play mode. how would i fix this issue? i want it to play on contact not continuously.

[near ice]

head disappears when i get too close

[formal vault]

What app is that

I want to make my own avatars

[kind heath]

that's probably the mesh bounds, try making them bigger

[kind heath]

it's unity

[formal vault]

Ok thnx

[soft otter]

I have this toggled object I added with vrcfury, I wanna add a particle beam and a gesture that allows that it to fire, how would I do that? I've looked in the particle package and there's no fx

[inland seal]

I was curious on how people make these type of normal maps that look like clothes

Also this,

[grand scaffold]

Substance painter has a pretty good crease alpha, if not you can find some free ones online if you search

[opal relic]

How do I yoink an animation from an fbx file from Blender? Do I need to export it in a certain way?

[night ember]

export the fbx with the animations attached
import fbx with animations

[night ember]

one method is having a very high poly mesh and baking the normals of it to a lower poly mesh

[inland seal]

Alr

what about the 2nd image?

How they make so realistic clothes

[opal relic]

Got it! Except for one thing

Am I supposed to keyframe all of the bones?

I'm trying to set the hand to a certain pose when the saber prop is on.

[night ember]

checkbox is animated in the physbone like it tells you

[opal relic]

That fixed it, thank you!

[left gull]

programs like substance painter offer realistic textures for different materials so alot of vrchat creators use some form of it but you could search something like "jeans texture" on google you could find some free material sheets

[inland seal]

I mean

The images I took are from Substance Painter (My Substance)

I just never saw that

but thx anyway :D

[dapper mulch]

can i get some help my avis eyes arenot lining up correctly

[night ember]

well is the avatar root correct

[dapper mulch]

everything is working but the eyes

i even tryed differnt eye texturs

[night ember]

wdym by lining up

[dapper mulch]

ile show u

Everything else seems to work, but when I go to put the eye texture, it’s not showing up. It’s just messing up, but everything else is fine. I’ve even tried different eyes.

[night ember]

that still doesnt show me what the problem is

[dapper mulch]

The problem is is the eyes aren’t showing up at all the eye texture in there, but the eyes themselves don’t show up as if there’s eyes in there

The main texture is in the eye. It’s just the eyes on the avatar don’t show that it has eyes.

[night ember]

I dont remember if the rex has a transparent eye reflection mesh or not

[dapper mulch]

could I be using the wrong eyes then?

[night ember]

not what I said

[dapper mulch]

Well, my Rex came from blender

And I imported it into unity

[balmy barn]

gotto remove that mesh for the quest

[dapper mulch]

And followed the other steps

[dapper mulch]

Can you explain what you mean?

[night ember]

quest doesnt have transparency so you need to delete the transparent parts of the mesh

[balmy barn]

its a material over the eyes that wants alpha

[dapper mulch]

So I could be using the wrong eye texture

[night ember]

literally not what we said

[dapper mulch]

I don’t understand what you said

[night ember]

delete the mesh thats covering the eye that is used for reflections cause it uses transparency which you dont have

[dapper mulch]

Ok

[balmy barn]

it has 2 materials on the eye, one is for alpha other opaque , you dont need the alpha one

[dapper mulch]

OK, that makes sense

Is this what I’m trying to look for?

[white topaz]

My avatar balls into the ground despite everything being mapped properly. Any ideas what's wrong?

[somber sequoia]

explain "balls into the ground"

[gaunt knoll]

please

[somber sequoia]

I said "explain", what am I looking at here.

[dapper mulch]

Is it not lighting up with the avatar

[white topaz]

My avatar scrunched into a ball on the floor

[somber sequoia]

Does it do this in play mode in Unity when using an emulator tool like gesture manager or AV3 emulator?

[white topaz]

yes

[gaunt knoll]

maybe contact godfall about this he has a discord

[somber sequoia]

not a humanoid rig maybe?

are there build errors?

[white topaz]

This is through my own trials and tribulations. I had swapped a face tracking version onto the green (opti) avatar so I could have an optimized version with FT

it's set to humnoid

[somber sequoia]

hmmm but warnings. go look where it says to look

[somber sequoia]

?

[dapper mulch]

How do I change these to let me edit them before I accidentally screw one of them up by having it changed to avatar to one texture again

[somber sequoia]

the greyed out ones are materials embedded then the model file, they can't be changed. You'll need to make new materials and drag them to the appropriate slots.

[dapper mulch]

Ok

[somber sequoia]

(the Materials dropdown in that image contains the list)

[dapper mulch]

So basically copy the names of them and then go from there

[somber sequoia]

names are not relevant

[white topaz]

this?

[somber sequoia]

That's why - you re-exported from Blender with different scaling settings, right?

(yes)

[white topaz]

Probably. Sorry, I'm nowhere near as good with Blender as I am with Unity.

[somber sequoia]

You should export from blender with "Apply scalings" set to "FBX All" unless you know for sure it should be something else.
If that doesn't fix it, in Unity you'll need to set the armature to generic, apply, then redo the humanoid setup.

[white topaz]

The second part fixed it. Thank you so much!

[somber sequoia]

hooray!

[fickle onyx]

i'm trying to use xiexe's fur shader on my avatar however it renders super weirdly (i dont really know how to describe it, picture does more explaining lmao..second pic is what it's supposed to look like with the shader.) - i dont really know what i did that caused this, although i know my installation of the shader does this by default in my project (this project had a previous installation which i replaced the files for the shader, still yielding the same results)..i did move OS from windows to linux and i just noticed this happening (could be a unity linux/version thing?), anyone familiar with using xiexe's shaders knows what's going on here?

[somber sequoia]

I haven't noticed any issues like this with Linux that I could actually blame on Linux.
Haven't used that shader either, I've only tried out Warren's

[fickle onyx]

mm, alright, was only thinking about that since it never did this when i had the project on windows

[somber sequoia]

I suppose it could happen - I haven't tried this shader

[floral zephyr]

when trying to select what platform to upload to all 3 options are Grayed out and are not selectable

How do i fix this?

[honest swallow]

Another question if anyone knows

[somber sequoia]

you have to install the android build tools... though I'm not sure how you managed to get none of those installed. how did you install Unity? Is it even the right version?

[honest swallow]

Is there a way for me to find the best settings for the textures on my avatar that’d work for PC, Quest and mobile?

[somber sequoia]

https://docs.unity3d.com/2021.3/Documentation/Manual/class-TextureImporterOverride.htmlz

"best" is vague - it depends on what you have and what you're doing with it

[floral zephyr]

Is it grabbing the wrong Version of Unity from here?

[honest swallow]

Is it like this cause I’m on mobile?

[somber sequoia]

2022.3.22f1 is correct

[somber sequoia]

was that from my link? interesting... maybe this?
https://docs.unity3d.com/2022.3/Documentation/Manual/class-TextureImporterOverride.html

[floral zephyr]

yes, and the project is using 2022.3.22f1

[floral zephyr]

Ive also created another fresh brand new Avatar Project where the same issiue is happening

[honest swallow]

This link works! Thanks!

[somber sequoia]

you still have to install the build support for your target platforms. I'm not sure where that link is, hang on

[floral zephyr]

hanging on 👍

[somber sequoia]

hmm how did you install unity? I thought VCC did all that right

[floral zephyr]

a friend told me to try ALCOM cause its faster, its honestly given me more heaches setting up all the packages

If the solution is just go back to Creator Companion ill get started on that

[somber sequoia]

yeah I can't find the link - I do it differently than one would in Windows, via unity hub

looks like docs have a circular path of links that don't actually tell you how to get those packages anymore, very weird.

[floral zephyr]

huh strange

[somber sequoia]

aha!

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/build-test-mobile#set-up-unity-android-tools

[floral zephyr]

Giving this a shot, thanks for the help mate 🧡

[dense meadow]

would anyone have any idea why some of my physbones dont work with mmd world motions? but only some, and i cant tell what the difference is between the ones that work and the ones that dont :s

[floral zephyr]

Thank you that fixed my issiue 🧡

[somber sequoia]

nice!

[mighty acorn]

I'm having a problem where I have 61 physbone transforms count but it is saying I have 70, Upload issue on the Quest platform

So What does it count as Transforms??

Because it isn't making sense to me

[night ember]

all children of the physbone component parent

[mighty acorn]

I counted the roots too tho

It still adds up to 61

[flat fiber]

trying to troubleshoot why my mouth visemes arent working. its a vroid imported into unity, A E I O and U are bound to their menu's, and when i test build and equip, it doesnt move with my voice input. anyone understand whats happening here?

[mighty acorn]

When going through the bones do you have a jaw bone selected?

[somber sequoia]

you need a unique blendshape for each one of these

(also make sure the jawbone is not mapped)

[flat fiber]

i openened the avi up in blender and it appeared that there was in fact blendshapes already generated from when it was made in Vroid for those 5, and i was under the impression those were the only ones neccissary, it would just lack more accurate mouth shapes for animating

[flat fiber]

how would i check if the jawbone is selected/mapped?

[somber sequoia]

find your .fbx file in the project window, select it, and in the inspector, in the "rig" tab, click configure. It's in the head tab there

[mighty acorn]

I fixed this issue

[flat fiber]

its not an fbx, it was imported using UniVRM and is in my assets as a .prefab

[somber sequoia]

oh you went that way... huh... well good luck.
But still somewhere is your model file where you do the whole humanoid rig setup

[flat fiber]

i do have a version of the model that i dropped into blender and turned into an FBX. the body is different, but the face is the same. could i pull it out of that and replace the one in this avatar?

or is this just a hard-baked f-up?

[somber sequoia]

I don't do this, but if I did I'd import stuff into Blender and clean it up there, then treat it like any other avatar.

[flat fiber]

okay, so the pipeline should be Vroid to Blender and then Unity? probably screwed myself over hard by avoiding blender at first

[somber sequoia]

that's the way I would do it.

[flat fiber]

how would others do it?

[somber sequoia]

I can't speak for others

[dry ibex]

why is my multiplatform build and publish greyed out

[timber wharf]

most likely you don't have android sdk installed

[dry ibex]

I do ive been publishing avatars to android for over a year plus this is a windows publish

i already tried closing and reopening unity

[dry ibex]

Fixed i think

[median moss]

any know abt it

i try fix it but idk how do it

[timber wharf]

@median moss #creator-companion

[somber sequoia]

#creator-companion - but I had issues logging into my account via the SDK before dinner - haven't checked since though

[dense meadow]

so i noticed its only physbones connected to the body mesh... they all work just fine in every other context but go still when doing mmd motions wtf

[placid fiber]

does anyone know what Ushanka hat model this is and where i can buy it??

[dense snow]

Is it possible to use a constraint to make a part of a players avatar look at another player continuously?

[somber sequoia]

oh you put this in two places.

[white pumice]

I've been trying to figure out why this booth avatar's face has been appearing weirdly in game. The first image is what it looks like and the second is what its supposed to look like.. it appears normal in testing.

[ocean snow]

I made the pants from the model but in pose mode when moving the leg how do i stop it from messing with the other pants leg?

[somber sequoia]

better weight painting, looks like some vertices moving with the wrong leg

[night ember]

weight paint it to not do that

[woven garnet]

Does anyone know why the soldify of the ears and legs does not work in unity?

[gaunt knoll]

hi did you fix this issue

[glossy cosmos]

trying to figure out a build error for a friend. builds fine for me but gives them this error. the error doesn't say anything specific about what's wrong so wondering if anyone has any idea

[somber sequoia]

did you put a name?

[glossy cosmos]

yes they did this happened during upload

[somber sequoia]

well nothing in those images is of use, unfortunately

[glossy cosmos]

yeah they claim no other errors

[shell zephyr]

Maybe have then send the unity log file

[glossy cosmos]

ill check with them

[ocean snow]

ah i see.

[rigid matrix]

Can someone help me with this problem? When I test the toggles in Unity, everything works as it should, but when I do it within VRChat, as you can see in the video, everything redirects to the swimsuit menu.

[unreal pasture]

whats this its lagging me so bad

[ornate stump]

Happens sometime after exiting play mode. Just restart unity.

You had multiple message across multiple channels so go remove them before the mod see you.

[gentle goblet]

So I am still having this issue, I try to upload my avatar and it says I need the thumbnail but I already have a thumbnail it just says there isn't one and I don't know how to fix this ;-;

[ornate stump]

Try a updating the sdk.

[gentle goblet]

Oki

[gentle goblet]

That did it O-O

Thank you...

[formal sigil]

Having some trouble fixing my avatar for VrChat, been stuck on dealing with null error for a while now

[ornate stump]

This is the problem

[formal sigil]

Ah ok, this is like the current set up of my rig, this is all new to me so I kinda don't know what I'm doing

[ornate stump]

Also screenshot bone hierarchy on the left panel to show the part around the chest bone.

[formal sigil]

Alrighty, this is what I got

[ornate stump]

Then check for neck bone assignment.

[formal sigil]

That seemed to do the trick!! Many thanks for the help! I just gotta test my man now

[thick oyster]

A random "failed to upload avatar" without any other clear errors is internet, right?

It does this with the test robot too, so I assume so but I want to know for sure

Welp, I tried a few more times and it worked, so I got my answer, nvm lol.

[torn vector]

flight hat by beckenzi

Does anyone know how when using custom locomotion animations to make it so the player head isnt locked with the animation while moving, only fix I know of is using full gogoloco but then I have to set up the locomotion manually

[ornate flint]

does anyone know any good creators to buy avatars from like booth, kofi ?

[gaunt knoll]

Depends on what you want

[ornate flint]

anything masked, knight/ medieval like, solemn lament from limbus/LOB, cool looking features and/or abilities
full masked military with working guns and abilities

[pine valley]

Turn on "API Logging Enabled" in the control panel's "Settings" section and try again

you should at least get more errors

(they may be non-helpful)

I've seen a few people having this issue recently

[trail canopy]

Hi everyone!

Does anyone know how to fix this? I don't even have the shrink clothes blendshape on

The clothes also don't change any of the blendshape

In gesture manager it causes the body to look like this as default:

[inland seal]

How do I fix this

[trail canopy]

These are the default blendshapes when I am using the gesture manager, is there a way to change them?

[balmy barn]

some in your fx controlling them

[inland seal]

Why everytime I upload the quest version it breaks the pc one

Both PC and quest upload just fine

[inland seal]

Like when I upload it only on pc it works fine

but when I try to upload on quest it breaks

nvm, I fixed it after 100 times of uploading and fixing

[white pumice]

Avatar permanently squinting, doesn’t appear this way in unity or Gameplay test

[strong dragon]

For avatars should I be using unity 2022.3.6 or 2022.3.22 or is either one fine?

[timber wharf]

@strong dragon you cannot upload new avatars with anything but a couple prev sdks and those work on 22f1 only

so as long as its not maintenance of old stuff were talking, use the latest of everything

[worn kiln]

Note: miminimum SDK version bumped to .9.xx by now.

[timber wharf]

3.9*

[fickle onyx]

yeah it was just the editor rendering weirdly, this is a local build of the avatar i just did

[strong dragon]

I’ll go update it then I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t using one that wasn’t good or anything lol

Also completely forgot to add the f1 at then end whoops

[balmy barn]

https://warrenwolfy.gumroad.com/l/atntv try that fur shader, xie is ancient

has way more options like drawing directly on avatar

[vapid slate]

how to fix this?

[round comet]

Are the ear bones attached under the head bone in the armature?

[vapid slate]

yes

[round comet]

They look like they’re attached to the hips almost

How’d you do the phys?

[amber gull]

any idea how to fix it after exporting it?

[balmy barn]

dont unpack avatar ever and keep same scale if you export from blender over a fbx already in scene

[vapid slate]

i attached them to the head, added physbones the the head and pt the rest in "ignore transforms"

[round comet]

Can you show what settings you used maybe?

[vapid slate]

yeah, could i dm them to u or no..

[round comet]

My dms are closed at the moment. If you send them here you’re honestly more likely to get help since there’s more people

[vapid slate]

alright

lemme get that screenshot for ya :D

[round comet]

[balmy barn]

dont put physbone on head , use a gameobject then drop ears in that

it will acts as root instead then add endpoint

(if it doesnt have 2 bones pr ear)

[vapid slate]

gameobject..?

[vapid slate]

okk

then what do i do with the gameobject

[balmy barn]

just be sure the gameobject actually in head not somewhere else

[vapid slate]

alright, i dragged it ontop of the head

[in hierarchy]

i want the ears to jiggle tho...

[round comet]

You aren’t just applying the phys to each ear bone? :o

[vapid slate]

...no?

am i supposed to ;-;

[round comet]

Like left and right ear

Yeah ^^

[vapid slate]

oh oki

[round comet]

So instead of moving separately it seems you attached the phys to the root? Maybe that’s it

Apply them to the left and right ear bone of the ears respectively

[vapid slate]

...so like

[round comet]

If the are the bones, yes. See if those are the ones for the ears

[vapid slate]

it is

[round comet]

Alrighty, then select the left and right ear bones and apply them there. I’d assume it’d be Ear and Ear_004 by the looks of it

[vapid slate]

i also looked up 'left ear' in the hieracrchy

[round comet]

Some bones are just named funky I think

[vapid slate]

alright

do i add anything to the root transform?

[round comet]

I wouldn’t worry about that

[vapid slate]

ok

[vapid slate]

do i do the same thing for tails?

[round comet]

If you added tails as well, yea

Are you adding the ears and tail just in unity?

[vapid slate]

yea

[round comet]

You’ll need to make sure to drag them into your main armature (on the avatar)

The ears prefab can go under the head bone and the tails prefab can go under the hips bone (if you haven’t already)

[vapid slate]

oki

[round comet]

You also don’t need to unpack the prefabs btw. I noticed they were unpacked ^o^

[vapid slate]

sweet! makes my life easier

[round comet]

Its fine since you already started but you don’t need to

Yep

[left gull]

if the horn asset only has one material slot then you'd need to seperate the chain mesh and horn mesh from each other in blender>remove the chains material and give it a new one>join meshes back together (and before joining you might want to invert the normals of the horns if they're flipped? it kinda looks like they are)

[somber briar]

i want to put this guy in unity, but when i do, the material that has the fresnel on it doesnt show up
been years since i uploaded an avatar, i got super rusty

[left gull]

are you talking about the black parts?

[somber briar]

no, the shoulderpads and the rings on the arms and waist are wonk when i put them in unity

[unborn mirage]

Is there a solution to transparency in personal mirrors. If the grabpass or transparent backround is not the avatar the object is clear.

[somber briar]

even the head- which doesnt even use the fresnel

its just a series of normal materials
but then again, that might be the shape key talking
i made it so the materials get brighter when the key is toggled

[desert pendant]

look ive tried everything, can anyone give me any tips on how to potentially fix this? im using the parameter driver btw (this is now void)

[timid kite]

why are these boxes semi transparent? i do see my avatar in the scene and checkbox is ticked

if u cant see the difference look at gesturemanager color and then aneessa

[somber briar]

the colored parts, for some reason they appear white in unity

[indigo compass]

Entirely blue box means that it is a prefab (a Unity game object saved as an asset below), the partial blue boxes are some variant of prefabs (one being edited and one being a saved Prefab Variant, basically a saved edited prefab.) and the hollow cubes just mean game object.

[timid kite]

ty

[torn remnant]

Anyone know how to fix this in unity? Please @torn remnant if you know

[dreamy storm]

yall know what this means?

first ever avatar

“object reference not set to an instance of an object”

[left gull]

pretty sure none of those errors actually mean anything they just kinda say it failed, is there any other red errors and can you screenshot the SDK upload panel?

[modern gyro]

how do i make it so these chains move? i cant seem to find a yt video on it

[dreamy storm]

yeah hang on

[left gull]

check that your model's .FBX is humanoid if it is and for some reason didnt provide a animator add it to the root of your model where the avatar descriptor script is located

[modern gyro]

ive had this issue before! i had to download "missing script cleaner V2.0.0" and import it into the file, i could send it to you if you want

[left gull]

add the physbones script to it, but if the chains dont have any bones then you'd need to add some and weightpaint them to said bones in blender

[modern gyro]

im extreamly new to unity, im not really sure what a physbone script looks like, but it does look like each chain is seperate if that makes sense at all

[left gull]

This video should show you how to add the script and mess with its setting pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTTnWUkswkU

[dreamy storm]

hmm alr ill try

new to unity as well

[left gull]

id imagine you can use "Horns Chained Root" for the parent bone you're putting the script on and would only need to add each chain's parent (L1Chain,L2Chain etc not any of the children in their dropdowns) if the root is too wonky movement wise

also highly reccomend watching some basic tutorials or reading any of the doc's out there on avatar setup so you atleast know the terms and where stuff is meant to be added

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495 has some good starter stuff

[modern gyro]

thank you (:

[dreamy storm]

what does an animator look like

uhh

like whats the icon for it

[left gull]

i dont know off the top of my head tbh, you should be able to just use the search bar when hitting the button to add scripts and search animator

theres only one script named it so it should be the only one to show up

[dreamy storm]

whats the button to add scripts

[forest portal]

Hii,

I'm using an avatar (Lumin) that works great in VRC! The only issue is that android/headset people can't see my skin. I don't care if it's a dumbed down version of it, but I want them to at least be able to see it, not a dinosaur! LOL!

I'm 100% lost when it comes to this kind of thing, so if you guys know how I would LOVE help
Thank youuuu :D

[left gull]

the "add component" button, if you havent made an avatar before i suggest you read the docs that go over the basics like adding a script: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar