avatar-help

[inland gyro]

oh goodness, i found the issue. the armature had just been renamed from the prefab 🤦‍♀️

thanks for trying to help anyways though, even if it was my own mistake

[vernal pecan]

My eyes won't move, despite tracking is on (they worked earlier but something went vrong)

(i mean automatic movement)

[proven quail]

with the vrcfury toggle, create an animation. Make that animation set the blendshape values you want and then set every other face blendshape to 0 (leave the vismes alone)

this will override the facial expressions because you are setting the blendshapes to 0

[wintry ledge]

I found an easier way but thank you ^^ u just create a blendshape toggle with the closed eyes and then add "disable gestures" toggle under it

[sharp relic]

I'm trying to figure out stupid skirt physics again with colliders and I am having issues

[somber sequoia]

yep, it's difficult.

[sharp relic]

It seems like sometimes the phy colliders dont work

[kind heath]

same here!! trying to figure out how to get them to stop clipping through the thigh when the leg is raised past 45 degrees lol

[stray saffron]

For some reason, in unity the bone weights I painted are acting differently than in blender. On the left, the arm can clip into the torso slightly, but in Unity, the torso crumples inward creating a gap. Does anyone know what might cause this? I assumed it was unity and blender processing weights differently, but IDK where to go from there...

[junior void]

unity strips vertives to 4 bone weights

in blender, go to weight -> limit total -> set to 4

[stray saffron]

🫡 thank you king, will do.

[real sequoia]

Hey yall I am new to all this shit and I am trying to upload a vrchat model to unity so I can put it in vr would anyone be able to help me it’s when ever I try to drag and drop it won’t import it

[junior void]

you need to put the fbx into the scene as well

any basic tutorial shows that

[real sequoia]

? How do I do that?

[somber sequoia]

drag from where, drop to where?

and what is the type of file you are using?

Definitely follow a basic tutorial if you have't.

[real sequoia]

From files to unity I got the avi from a vr model store

[somber sequoia]

"files"?

which vr model store btw?

[gaunt knoll]

vr model?

[somber sequoia]

okay so ripped/stolen content. You won't get help for that here, pay artists for their work.

[real sequoia]

Is it ripped? I just want a good avi 😭😭

Idk how any of this shit works

[somber sequoia]

if it's from that store, almost certainly.

[real sequoia]

Damn ok if I go buy one how would I do it then?

Also what store would be the best to buy from?

[somber sequoia]

again, follow basic tutorials.
The best store is the one which has the content you want and has not stolen that from the artist who made it.

[real sequoia]

Dude idk where that is

[somber sequoia]

well we don't either

[real sequoia]

Damn ok

[somber sequoia]

jinxxy? gumroad? booth?

[gaunt knoll]

payhip nexxy itch.io

[glass condor]

I've noticed some things about most prefabs that rely on vrcfury: they usually have something set to the avatar's fingers.

I'm bringing this up because im trying to add Ike HUD to a roblox avi, but it lacks fingers, and I think thats causing an in-game issue that's making the HUD toggles not work. (Putting on any of the filters doesn't work)

I think you can Edit in Prefab to change the finger contacts to other bones, but anytime I change it, it says "not found, rig is not set to humanoid" even though it is. Any tips?

[gaunt knoll]

ike hub is supported in his discord server and hes really good at helping with this

(there's a manual installation if you dont want to use fury in the prefab)

[glass condor]

Hmm tru on both, I'll try the manual install and if that fails, I'll go to their server!

[karmic sand]

Currently making an avatar without a humanoid rig. I’m trying to add toggles to it, and they work fine in the unity engine, but when I upload it to vrc the menu doesn’t show up. Any fixes, or is it just not possible?

[somber sequoia]

huh, humanoid rig should have nothing to do with menus working

[karmic sand]

I unsure tbh. I’ve had similar problems with avatars that have no rigs either. 😔

[real sequoia]

Hey yall I am new to all this shit and I am trying to upload a vrchat model to unity so I can put it in vr would anyone be able to help me it’s when ever I try to drag and drop it won’t import it I just got the avi and its quest

[gaunt knoll]

no

your using ripped avi we wont help

[karmic sand]

Genuinely curious how you knew that so quickly

[glass condor]

Wait, where's the manual installation instructions?

[glass condor]

They were here earlier,

[gaunt knoll]

look up in the chat

[karmic sand]

Oh oh

🥀

[real sequoia]

Naw I bought one off a buddy of mine

[gaunt knoll]

still ripped

[real sequoia]

Broo how lmao

I bought it from a buddy of mine

[gaunt knoll]

what do you mean how

[real sequoia]

How is it ripped when I got it from a buddy of mine

And he sent me the avi link

[gaunt knoll]

still ripped

[somber sequoia]

What kind of file do you have?

[real sequoia]

Unity

[somber sequoia]

"unity" is not a file type

[real sequoia]

It says unity package file

[somber sequoia]

ok that's a unitypackage.

[real sequoia]

Ok ok I am new to pc shit

[real sequoia]

I am downloading unity 2022.3.62f3

[somber sequoia]

what for?

That is the wrong version for use with VRChat.

[karmic sand]

Are you using the creator companion?

[somber sequoia]

probably start here: https://creators.vrchat.com/sdk/

[real sequoia]

Yeah

[somber sequoia]

the "getting started" docs.

[real sequoia]

Wait does it matter if I have it all installed oh a usb stick?

[gaunt knoll]

the docs no

[somber sequoia]

I can't answer any questions about installing software on Windows

[real sequoia]

K

[gaunt knoll]

you downloaded the docs

yes it does matter that you have unity installed on a ubs stick

[real sequoia]

The unity hub is on the pc the unity 2022.3.22f1 is on the stick

[gaunt knoll]

yes it does matter that you have unity installed on a ubs stick

that mean you have the portable version

which isnt supported by CC

[real sequoia]

Damn ok so I have to movie it back to my pc

[real sequoia]

What version do I need?

Of unity

[gaunt knoll]

https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.22f1#installs

[real sequoia]

Does the hub also have to be on the main pc?

[gaunt knoll]

yes

cant be in any sort of portable device

[bold moon]

Fix?

[somber sequoia]

not a useful message, unfortunately.

[night ember]

The pc also comes with a screenshot tool by default

[bold moon]

How about now ?

[night ember]

All those are telling you that it failed

[bold moon]

I don’t how to fix it

[bold moon]

I tried uploading different avatars. It’s been giving me the same error.

It’s something to do with the SDK 3.0

[somber sequoia]

Did you look for problems in the SDK build window?

[bold moon]

Yes I did I tried searching it up on Google. Nothing helped. I’ve even tried using my own AI to help with it. Nothing helped.

That’s why I came here to ask to see if anyone else is having the same problem

Ever since I updated my SDK it’s been acting like this for the past couple days

I was about to upload one of my avatars just now and yesterday and the day before

[somber sequoia]

That's not a problem that others would have, it's local to you. But those messages don't provide enough detail, unfortunately.

[gaunt knoll]

What version of sdk are you using

(send a screenshot of CC)

[bold moon]

3.0

[somber sequoia]

3.0 is not a SDK version.

[bold moon]

I have an idea that my help it

[somber sequoia]

well it is but not one that's usable right now, you need 3.9+

[bold moon]

Sdk3

[gaunt knoll]

...

[somber sequoia]

again, not what they are asking. specific version.

[gaunt knoll]

Just send a screenshot of your packages in CC

[somber sequoia]

You can find this in VCC or Alcom

[bold moon]

I’m out of my computer right now. I’m on my phone, but I will send a screenshot when I get to my computer.

[somber sequoia]

always fascinates me when people ask questions but aren't prepared for follow-up questions asking for more detail. Why not just wait until you are ready?

[gaunt knoll]

You think it would be rare for people to do

[somber sequoia]

no, I know better than to think such silly things 🙂

[bold moon]

It’s just a human thing

[night ember]

I will always find this kind of interaction a bit dumb
shows something
"thats not what I asked"
shows same thing again like itd change anything

[bold moon]

We’re not perfect

[night ember]

asking for this not that

[bold moon]

I was just showing you the version I was using that I was using

[somber sequoia]

that doesn't show the actual full version number though, which is what was being asked.

[gaunt knoll]

when is the new one coming out next year?

[bold moon]

Nvm

[azure lodge]

I’m already preparing to do a factory reset but has anyone else gotten this error? I’ve tried everything both I can think of and what others have suggested.

When I try to upload an avi since yesterday I get these errors in the picture. It then puts a prefab of the avatar in the assets below.

I’ve tried uninstalling and reinstalling unity, vcc, and even unity hub. I’m not sure what’s going on

[somber sequoia]

so this "object reference not set to an instance of an object" is not really useful for debugging an avatar, unfortunately.

no matter how many different times you share that one, the answer is going to be the same, "that probably isn't the root cause error"

[bold moon]

Like bro i tried every thing your no help

[wet gyro]

is there a way i can make a texture holographic?

i'm trying to make the avatar's hair holographic

[heavy zephyr]

You can add chromatic abberation, layers and glitter through poiyomi for example

[left hornet]

lol guess what

[somber sequoia]

We're no help because there's no advice we can give you based on the info we have - we suggested a few things to look at, I'm just saying that message tells us nothing. I wish it did.

[uneven bough]

any help with this texture problem?, the body skin should match the face skin, i've also been getting invalid subscript shader errors but i wanna fix this problem first

[somber sequoia]

I haven't seen a full picture of your console to see if there are other errors, but if you have a list of errors, post the first few errors, ideally with the error counter shown so we can see how many there are.

[somber sequoia]

same or different materials?

[uneven bough]

here's all the errors i just got when i tried uploading

[somber sequoia]

always look at the top ones first, that's where the root cause error will be.
But I'd probably unlock and maybe upgrade those Poiyomi materials.

[vapid hedge]

I can't find the arrows on where I'm supposed to use to move the Avatar descriptor I'm clicking at it but there's no new arrows and I don't see the small thing anywhere what do I do

[somber sequoia]

move the avatar descriptor? Do you maybe mean the viewpoint?

make sure gizmos are enabled - upper-right icon in the Scene view, looks like a sphere

[vapid hedge]

Thank you so much

How do you test his bones to see if they work?

[somber sequoia]

in what way?

actually, better question: humanoid bones or physbones?

[vapid hedge]

You know how certain avatars have moving hair how do I test that the things that I've done work in unity I'm trying to get a skirt to work and the bones are already there

I meant to say phsbones speech to text is a dumb

[somber sequoia]

Physbones. Go into play mode with an emulator installed (gesture manager, av3 emulator) and grab the model and move it around

[somber sequoia]

np, just making sure I know what you're asking 🙂

[vapid hedge]

I didn't think I added an emulator and I still don't know what play mode is oh well I got the viewpoint good so even if it doesn't work correctly I don't care

[somber sequoia]

at the top middle there's a play button

it goes into a testing mode

[uneven bough]

well reinstalling poiyomi didn't fix the problem and now i got these errors too

[somber sequoia]

you'd have to go look at whatever material that refers to, no idea what's going on there

those are shader properties, but I don't know what is happening there

[signal orchid]

How do I log in through discord

I need help

[somber sequoia]

sounds like a question for a different channel, this is about avatar creation

[uneven bough]

i don't know where that map is either, is there a way to make it take me to that by clicking on the error or something?

[somber sequoia]

I guess you can try it? not sure, I haven't seen this before

[uneven bough]

clicking on it opens a web browser with a bunch of lines of code, tried searching for it in the assets window search bar and nothing

[somber sequoia]

haha that's not helpful

[vapid hedge]

Is there a way for me to change how much I'm moving things or rotating it like is there a way for me to change it from 1 inch into 0.1 cuz I'm trying to make this certain floor for a toggle but I can't have it above the feet since it's a floor but every time I go below it goes underneath the entire project

[somber sequoia]

in Unity?

[vapid hedge]

Yes

[somber sequoia]

you could type actual numbers into the object's Transform component, sometimes that's helpful

[uneven bough]

wanna see the code it brings up?

[somber sequoia]

not really, no

can't imagine I'll have any more idea

[naive bough]

not sure where to ask this.. does anyone know if the VRCTraders group has a ban appeal site or something? my old discord got hacked and they IP banned me i think? i cant reconnect on my new account with a new email.

[mighty shuttle]

anyone know how to fix this error?

[shadow marsh]

has anyone else done anything with symlinking for project packages?
i have dozens of avatar projects and they all use roughly the same packages; and it'd be neat to have a single physical instance of each package and then a symlink to them for the projects (i tried to do it manually and i've saved over 10GB of space by symlinking) but i dont know why the VCC is complaining about the packages not being resolved, any ideas?

[somber sequoia]

did you update the various manifest json files in the Packages directory too? I haven't tried this but that might be why.

[shadow marsh]

ah, seems like it doesnt like the version of the package changing without the manifest updating; but im not sure how i could maintain both (given that not every project is making use of the same exact set of packages)

[somber sequoia]

yeah that makes sense. I think you'd have to do some manual merging of those files

[shadow marsh]

too bad the version files arent just dynamically taken from within the package folders themselves

[somber sequoia]

hmmm actually - this might be a neat feature for Alcom, to have it use a centralized place to store those and just symlink them into each project and deal with the manifest files properly

[gaunt knoll]

you could message him or do it yourself and send him the code

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'd do it myself if I wanted it enough

[gaunt knoll]

I know this is totally off the topic but I wonder if you can give a screenshot of all packages requirements and use ocr to put all of the packages in the project

[somber sequoia]

hah, that's an amusing way to do it

[shadow marsh]

would indeed be neat, if i can get this to work nicely and not have issues loading and resolving them then i'd be able to save quite a lot of storage space

[small stone]

Hi everyone I'm a vocal performer on desktop trying to swap some gogoloco emotes on this avatar I purchased but I am totally stumped and needing help ... is anyone available to help with this? I've been trying to figure this out for like 3 days and I'm at my wit's end I fear

Im really willing to even pay for help with this

[cobalt cloak]

how i do fix the shader on the moblie version

[uneven bough]

hey so i deleted the json file in the creator companion and now all my projects are gone from the list any help?

[shadow marsh]

gogoloco iirc has their own discord, i'd ask there

[shadow marsh]

make a mobile/particles/additive material and put there, or iirc the blendshape to remove the eye sphere can work

[shadow marsh]

either ctrl+z, find it in the recycle bin and restore, or just manually re-add your projects
if you select multiple folders it'll add each valid project folder until it errors on an invalid directory

[surreal salmon]

anyone know how to transfer mesh weight data to a new object?

making some cloths that arent simple enouph to just dupe from the body mesh

[cobalt cloak]

okay It's better, but now they're so red and extremely pixelated.

[shadow marsh]

try the blendshape to remove the outer eye sphere and then use regular mobile toon lit probably

also on quest its going to be pixelated in most cases - the platform doesnt like high res

[cobalt cloak]

hop do i remuve bendshape

remove

found it

[uneven bough]

thing is i deleted the file cause it might have been what was causing compilation errors so what if it was?

[cobalt cloak]

Okay, never mind.

[shadow marsh]

that file has nothing to do with unity, only the VCC, so you wouldnt have to delete it

[uneven bough]

okay they're back, now how do i fix the compilation error? i haven't even opened the project yet and it's already giving me this BS

[shadow marsh]

i wouldnt know without seeing what you're seeing, and even then i might not know

[uneven bough]

i get this after trying to open the project i just created

[shadow marsh]

enter safe mode see whats up i guess

[surreal salmon]

i usually ignore

[shadow marsh]

sounds like typical av3 emulator being weird; i think last time i just deleted the package from the folder and reinstalled in the vcc?

[uneven bough]

will just removing it from the packages list also work?

[shadow marsh]

delete the package itself

[uneven bough]

where should it be?

[shadow marsh]

project/packages/av3whateveritscalled

[uneven bough]

compilation errors are fixed but poiyomi isn't showing up in the new project even though i have it added in the package settings

[somber sequoia]

I find I have to use one-version-back of Gesture manager, but I also use AV3 emulator and Linux, so maybe current ones work for others.

[rustic prairie]

how to I open the "unity package" of an avatar

and how do I use this avatar in game

[timber wharf]

both comes with vcc from vrc home download page

[somber sequoia]

import it into the unity editor. to use in game, probably watch one of the many many basic avatar setup tutorials - feel free to ask questions here if you get stuck

[rustic prairie]

the thing i dont understand

where do i import this?

i need to create a new project?

[somber sequoia]

in the menu: assets -> import package -> custom packge

yeah if you don't already have a project, make a new one

[rustic prairie]

i see

[somber sequoia]

again, there are lots of tutorials on the basics

[rustic prairie]

yay, found it

thanks

[somber sequoia]

np

[wind jacinth]

friend needs help wit this

@flat musk

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure any of that makes sense

[left wharf]

bring your friend here
...btw, why did you ping the bot?

[wanton cedar]

What do i need to do to this for it to stop appearing as black in the render and shader tab? Im trying to bake the nodes into the image texture

[somber sequoia]

why is "Cycles" selected there?

in the material output node.

[sand verge]

my FBX is in perfect tpose but for some reason it imports like this. (yes I applied all transforms)

[wanton cedar]

its what i was given by the modeler

[somber sequoia]

set it to "all" and see if it works

[uneven bough]

so does anyone here know how to fix invalid subscript shader errors? starting a fresh project didn't work

[wanton cedar]

It works good enough, thanks

[somber sequoia]

nice

[opal light]

Hey, so I made a parent constraint system on a hat (so I can pick it up and move it and stuff) it works, but it is in the wrong location for the head in game. Basically in unity the hat is on top of the head, but in vrchat the hat is lower, making it so that my eyes are inside the hat and I cannot see! what can be causing that? it works fine in my hands when I pick it up

[zinc thunder]

the problem is I don't know if that would make it able to be a quest feature, but I just checked with my friend who's on quest rn, and apparently he can see it too

[night ember]

particle probably

[zinc thunder]

wait lemme check with them and see whether they see a wireframe or normal at prismic's

okay, apparently the normals and wireframe are still there?

hmm

OH

nvm

it is a particle

a mesh particle

i MIGHT be stupid

and I didn't realize I could just look at the avatar details

and see the statistics

[opal light]

aaa why is it in wrong spot ingame...

I think I figured it out

it was using the wrong animator

wait, it might be worse.

So, it is putting the hat in the right spot, but it is somehow changing my view to be inside the hat?

[torn token]

I was trying to set up eye look but came into an issue when attempting to rotate the eyes. This model is really set up for the irises to translate and not rotate. There already are existing blendshapes for vertical and horizontal eye movement, but I don't know what to do with them

[dense iron]

Pls help me im trying to upload my avi and it says "Failed to upload file". I work on this avi literally last night and it was still uploading fine but today this suddenly happens. I checked the console but I couldn't find anything that stands out for me. I tried making new project and the same problem appears when I try to upload. I don't have a VPN on and I even tried Cloudfare warp, still nothing.

[frosty junco]

is there a way to make a toggle to change this back to hips once the avatar is rendered in game

it changes to another bone and I dont know what changes it

havnt been able to figure it out for months and atp I just want to work around it

once it is changed back to hips in game, the avatar is fixed ( no longer disapears )

[lilac musk]

It's probably that for your own view, vrchat will shrink your head to 0 so you don't see it. However because it's done that, a constrained object will look like it's at your neck position. You'd probably want to set it to a different location locally so that it doesn't obstruct your view.

[opal light]

ohh... how do I do that?

ill see what happens when I put it on the head bone

it broke something, i cant grab it now

but i can see now!

[somber sequoia]

I don't think this works, no

[frosty junco]

it works when I manually change it back, but if you meant that its not possible then yehh I guess im grasping at straws

[cyan swan]

I need help with this comission some of the textures arent working

Btw it isnt the avi with the wings, its from the same person tho

But imvu doesnt have nsfw so doubt its from there

At least i dont think it does

[opal light]

how do I set it to a different location locally?

moving it to the head bone breaks the parent constraints (stops it from working)

[cyan swan]

Ik the hair isnt from
Imvu

[opal light]

yeah I need help figuring out how to move an object somewhere else locally, I am at a loss

[lilac musk]

Have 2 animations, on that is one your head and the other that is somewhere else. Transition to the regular one when IsLocal is false and the other animation when IsLocal is true

[gloomy wind]

Hey does anyone know if its possible to use pngs as faces with being able to use hand gestures for expressions?

[dark jay]

I have a question so I have a model that i kinda broke the body a little then I decided to delete the body in blender and re inport it and delete everything but the body and used armature link to link it and it worked, but was wondering if its better to armature link something like that or combine it in blender then have the body be a separate mesh in blender so in unity i can have outfit swaps?

[dark jay]

Hey!, Im also a umamusume avi creator! The thing about umamusume models ive figured is after u make eye bones at least for me I generally push the left eye bone and right eye bone back a little bit and the white eye part i would extrude it by normals and move it just a little so you have it adjusted behind the eye and that it will be bigger then the original eye white a little bit (we want it a little bit bigger so the iris doesnt clip) then we delete the old eye white (at this point u will notice the old eye white is smaller) i like to seperate by section after i extrude it so i can delete the old eye whites easier then I would join the 2 objects/meshes back together

[dark jay]

Oh are u moving l eye and r eye? I noticed for a lot of models they arent supposed to be eye rotation bones but more of eye weight bones so u need to make eye movement bones, I use cats to make them

[uneven bough]

how do i make my avatar's audio scale with avatar size?

[torn token]

I see. I'm not great at blender (more of a CAD person when it comes to 3D software packages) but that makes sense.

[torn token]

These are existing blendshapes I found while looking for the correct ones to use for mouth visemes

[dark jay]

I could animate it in unity but its better to make proper eye bones and fix up the model

[dark jay]

Im splicing a head on a model and was wondering if theres a way for me to delete all shapekeys at once on the body not the head instead of clicking the - sign until its gone in blender

[somber sequoia]

blender 5 lets you select them all then - them

[torn token]

How do I make new eye bones? Or do I take the existing ones and move them?

[lilac musk]

You'd do that in blender. Look up rigging tutorials. You'd just make a couple bones pointing straight up, behind your eyeballs. Parented to the head. Weight the eyes 100% to them and 0 on everything else.

[dark jay]

Wait, do u have cats? In my cats if u enable show avatar 2.0 tools it will popup with a tab to make eye movement bones

[dense iron]

Pls help me im trying to upload my avi and it says "Failed to upload file". I work on this avi literally last night and it was still uploading fine but today this suddenly happens. I checked the console but I couldn't find anything that stands out for me. I tried making new project and the same problem appears when I try to upload. I don't have a VPN on and I even tried Cloudfare warp, still nothing.

[cyan swan]

can someone help me with texture issue?

[ornate stump]

Can you point out what issue you're referring to? Because it seem to have multiple issues from your image.

[pine valley]

my friend had the same issue a few days ago

we got the same set of errors that you have here

I never definitely solved it, because recompiling scripts fixed it

[dense iron]

oh ok ill try that thank u

[pine valley]

Try hitting the "Reload SDK" button in the VRChat Toolkit menu

[pine valley]

I had a theory that there was a useful error message in the inner exception for one of those errors

but the SDK only logs the outer exception, which just says "uhhh didn't work"

[dense iron]

i tried that a few times it didnt do anything

but ill try recompiling scripts when i get home

thank u

[pine valley]

Restart the editor as well, just to be sure

If it's still busted, I have some ideas for how to debug this

[torn token]

I do have cats, it's the unofficial version for blender 5.0

[tough minnow]

can someone explain how to add tooglable voice lines to an avatar

i made this springbonnie avatar that i want to add tooglable blood particles and voice lines

couldnt find a tutorial anywhere

[uncut pulsar]

guys why is lip sync is not working?

[stray spruce]

Does anyone have experience with Modular Avatar? I've been troubleshooting a problem for a while now, looking for documentation or tutorials that might cover this, sifting through their official discord for other ppl with same problem, but I am kinda stuck

[gaunt knoll]

wow so great on giving us the info that we need

yeah still

we cant help with that one piece information

did you make this avi

[next summit]

Hey didja manage to get it working

I’m having the same problem with all of my projects and its driving me insane

[gaunt knoll]

did you make the avi yourself

where from

[small silo]

Hello!! I have a question. So I just bought this j avatar and am unsure of how to upload it for both pc and quest, as in upload both textures to their respective platforms. I’ve tried finding a video on it but I can’t find anything. Please help if possible, thank you!!

[balmy barn]

getting some avatar from discord dont really sound suss at all

[stable citrus]

Can you show the hierarchy of scenes where he has both avatars ?

[gaunt knoll]

yeah not to mention a discord server that probably has it own help channel for their avis

[low epoch]

does someone know how to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

You'd need to explain what you think is wrong with this.

[low epoch]

so, when i try adding an matcap to my baldi model the matcap looks like that

but when i try adding an matcap to another model it works fine

the matcap only works if the model doesnt have bones

[somber sequoia]

I can't imagine what bones have to do with the materials

[fickle rover]

Bro does Anyone else's SDK fail on the PC side?

[somber sequoia]

almost certainly this is going to be a local problem - perhaps explain what "fail" means here.

[fickle rover]

It just fails no reason

[somber sequoia]

okay, probably we can't help with that then.

[fickle rover]

Alrighty
I was just wondering if I was the only one having that problem

[verbal anchor]

why is it doing this

[somber sequoia]

what is "this"?

[verbal anchor]

its like turned on in the thing but idk wtf

theres no avatar

[somber sequoia]

swapped in a broken material?

[verbal anchor]

well idk i didnt make it

[fickle rover]

My avatar keeps saying Failed to upload even when it's next to the wifi I'm geeking bro

[somber sequoia]

Can you share the error message(s)?

[trim prism]

whats the best way to get a ps1 style for my avatar in vrchat? i tried using the "vertex rounding" in poi yomi but it doesnt realy look right, should i just try make a low poly 3d model and put my avatars textures on that? or is there some shader that can make it look ps1 style?

[dense iron]

ye i tried recompiling script and reloading sdk and restarting editor but it still doesnt work

[dense iron]

no i still cant upload

still same error

[somber sequoia]

Looks like a DNS lookup error, judging from that last message in the console. Fix yer networking.
(no I have no idea anything about Windows networking)

[timber wharf]

@trim prism pc1 look def includes very lowpoly models that take way more than a few pixels per polygon, think like thousand polygons for a humanoid top. and lowres unfiltered textures. poi implementation is quite usable, if you have the right model, but making a lowres model from a highres is not that simple

[trim prism]

yea i get that, ig ill try make a low poly model then!

should i just try make a model from scratch, and try make it look like my current one then?

[timber wharf]

@trim prism honestly idk, never tried to downshift to ps1 look, only did it from scratch (for simplicity ye). id try making lowpoly model and projection baking (aka rebaking) textures to it probably. but same as decimating models and pixel art go, just lowering the texture res automatically is bound to look not too great compared to a manual approach

maybe youd be fine with the most of the model and fixing just the face a bit

[trim prism]

idk what projection baking is but ill look into that! i thinkk first ill try make a low poly body and head!!!

[arctic ginkgo]

Yeah, retopoing it might be the best bet. You can create a low poly version and bake the textures to a low-res texture

Vertex rounding helps with the jittery look from the way the ps1 rendered its 3D graphics

[trim prism]

retopologising? idk much about that really but ill try look into it!!

[tough minnow]

can someone help me

[steel root]

When I crouch with my avatar on the legs bend outwards.. I've tried some of the solutions i've seen from people previously having this problem but havent gotten anything to work yet, I did turn off bone roll as well, any suggestions?

[arctic ginkgo]

If your legs have a wide stance you need to close them so they are straight (in rig configure)

[steel root]

worked! Thank you ^-^

[bold snow]

Having trouble fitting a wrap to her body- I did scale n what not = uneven and a little messy. Moved onto inflating n sculpting n it kinda distorts the top- The front is good but I cant get the back to form right- Tips?

[cyan swan]

I meant the pink lashes and white eyes but fix all

[eternal aurora]

hello i was needing help. i bought 2 avatars from booth but for the life of me i can not seem to understand how to get the uploaded in vrchat i downloaded vvc and unity but it does not evidently click with me, can anyone help?

[somber sequoia]

have you watched tutorial videos?

[eternal aurora]

yes, i just get more confused this is my first attempt at this

[somber sequoia]

maybe you can explain what you're stuck on?

[eternal aurora]

to start off with i get to the package section and the file "liltoon" that is needed for my avatar does not show up at all. the lil toon file i downloaded from booth came with the unity file but it does not show. that is as far as i have got

i think i am still at the begining

[somber sequoia]

I don't know liltoon for sure but probably that should be installed via Creator Companion

[left gull]

can also be grabbed from it's booth page>https://booth.pm/en/items/3087170

one in the package might be buggy or broken if it's really just the shader package

[eternal aurora]

i did download it but no idea how to get in in the creator companion not to good with the whole computer programing thing

[left gull]

it's a .unitypackage it doesnt get installed in the companion app

it gets put in your unity project's assets folder

[eternal aurora]

i do apologize for being daft, i been fighting to figure this out for almost 6 hours now and i still have no idea what i am doing even with the tutorial videos, figured some one in here could help me understand better

[left gull]

i get the feeling you havent been looking at good tutorials then if you've been stuck for 6hours without even making a project, have you tried looking at the stuff in https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495 yet

[eternal aurora]

i shall go check these out and see if they help.

[steady merlin]

Anyone knows how to texture eyes? Ive used the Texture Paint but nothing shows up

also things disappear when i enter texture paint

[somber sequoia]

that pink suggests a broken material, missing color texture maybe?

[steady merlin]

lemme try that rq

[small silo]

I figured it out!! Found a tutorial lol

[steady merlin]

i added it but the eyes dont show up

[somber sequoia]

no idea what that means?

[steady merlin]

like u see in the second img that the eyes are hollowed out

im tryna make it appear and texture it

[somber sequoia]

ah I really don't use the texture paint mode much. But you'd have to make sure you've selected the material you want to work on

[steady merlin]

yea i selected it it still doesnt work 😭

[eternal aurora]

quick question i was following along on the video and the guy was talking about how he needed liltoon as well and it showed him downloading it then it appeared in the inventory list in unity do i need to do some thing to get it to show up?

[somber sequoia]

inventory list?

if he installed an older unitypackage you'll see a liltoon folder in the Assets folder in the project window. If you do that via Creator Companion, it won't be there, it'll be under Packages somewhere - this is the more modern way to do things.

[eternal aurora]

This area

[somber sequoia]

Ok yeah, that's the "project window", as in "files in your project". So not a bad name for it!

[eternal aurora]

I have the file re-download from git hub but it is not showing and he kind of skips over that so I'm confused as you can see I have the model (I belive show up) but liltoons is nowhere to be found

[somber sequoia]

I'd install liltoon via creator companion, no matter what any tutorial tells you to do, as that's the modern way - you can do that by clicking the "VCC" button on this page: https://lilxyzw.github.io/lilToon/

[eternal aurora]

I downloaded it but I am not sure what to do next. Sorry for being a pain.

[timber wharf]

dont see liltoon in the list

[eternal aurora]

Yea it not showing up so I am lost

[somber sequoia]

downloading the file does not add it to VCC - that button I mentioned should.

[eternal aurora]

This is what I have downloaded

I clicked on the vcc button that why I'm confused unless I'm not understanding properly

[somber sequoia]

oh okay. I don't actually use VCC so I was assuming that would work

[timber wharf]

@eternal aurora youre not supposed to download anything, you're supposed to add vcc link provided by liltoon docs to vcc app

[somber sequoia]

oh I thought that happened automatically if you clicked that link

[timber wharf]

if your browser doesnt propmpt you to "open this with an external app" then you messed up your security settings and should copy link with a right click or smth

[somber sequoia]

ahhh

ok so it's supposed to

[eternal aurora]

Ok I think I got it right now it is showing up

I know that it is jumping the gun but is this where you add in the dancing and emotes as well?

[somber sequoia]

really depends on what kind of package you have for that

[eternal aurora]

Why does it look like this

[somber sequoia]

you'd need to not crop out most of the UI for us to get an idea of what you're doing. And try to screenshot instead of photo

[eternal aurora]

ok

[somber sequoia]

Thanks - at the top there: Scale is 5x, that just zooms in the view in play mode. Put that back to 1x, and if you want to get closer, reposition the camera instead.
But probably you'd want to be working in the Scene view anyway - Game view is only really useful while testing in play mode

[eternal aurora]

ok that helped i going to continue with the video

this might be obvious but should i also add all the other png files at this time?

[somber sequoia]

we're not watching your tutorial and don't know what png files you might mean.

[eternal aurora]

the body hair that is shown next to the model in the assests

there is more of those kind of files for this avatar

[somber sequoia]

really no idea what you might be referring to

[eternal aurora]

so it said that the avatar was built in sdk and it would be found in the others page in my avatars. does this mean that i need to start up vrchat or is it somewhere else?

[somber sequoia]

if you clicked "build and publish" it's in the game

[eternal aurora]

ok so just load up vr and i should find it in there then. sorry for being daft this has been a pain to do

[somber sequoia]

it gets much easier!

[eternal aurora]

so if it works and say down the line i want to add say dancing emotes i just load the file and add them or do i need to complete do it over again?

[somber sequoia]

just make changes and hit the build button again

[eternal aurora]

ok i noticed an issue what do i need to do to get the avatar from just t posing everywhere?

[somber sequoia]

depends on why it's t-posing

did you do the humanoid rig setup?

I don't know if you had to with whatever package you got

[eternal aurora]

it keep telling me that i needed to assign legs ,head , and hands when in human so i put it in generic

[somber sequoia]

generic means it'll T-pose unless you have created all of the locomotion animations yourself

so yeah, that's the problem. You want to set that to humanoid.

[eternal aurora]

how do i map them so that they quit giving errors?

while in humaniod

[somber sequoia]

depends on why there are errors

[eternal aurora]

says they are not assigned

[somber sequoia]

click the "configure" button near where you set the armature type and see what's not assigned

[eternal aurora]

you talking about this

[somber sequoia]

Yes

you need something in "Chest" there

[eternal aurora]

ok

how would i go about fixing this?

[somber sequoia]

Map head, hands, and feet in that rigging setup

[red warren]

does anyone know how to make clothes and add on to a model in blender im looking for someone to do that for me and yes im willing to pay but not alot

[somber sequoia]

Head to the VRC Traders discord if you want to commission someone, you'll just get scammers in your DMs around here.

[red warren]

okay

ty

[bold snow]

No? 😔

[bold snow]

May i have that too?

[eternal aurora]

i am still getting these errors am i doing something wrong. i mapped everything

[somber sequoia]

have what, the link? it's in #1204490664637890580 somewhere

[bold snow]

Thanks

[somber sequoia]

show the rig setup window with the bones listed. And in another pic, your avatar's bone hierarchy from the root bone (hips) down to the head bone.

sorta assumed this would have been done by the creator of the avatar, but hey, who knows.

[eternal aurora]

is this what your were wanting?

[somber sequoia]

ideally with Chest open so I can see the shoulders and as I said, down to the head bone

but that t-pose thing is something you can fix, in the "pose" dropdown under the bone list in the right of that pic is an enforce t-pose function.

[somber sequoia]

The armature looks correct.

[eternal aurora]

the sample that they had in the booth cafe seemed to work fine when i went to buy it it seems to have been nothing but issues.unless i been doing it wrong this entire time

i just dont know what i am suppose to do

[drifting halo]

Hi ive been having a problem, my avatar looked fine until I followed a tutorial to add some animation thing to change the hair texture, the problem I have now i that after I was done doing that my avatar now has a bent arm and I have 0 idea how to fix it, i am not that familiar with unity I have like no experience-
ive triede some things i found online like enforcing t pose, but the avatar is already in T pose aparently maybe im doing it in the wrong place or something?

[left wharf]

if you're using Modular Avatar, try "Setup Outfit"
if you're using VRCFury, try to use armature link
both of these have official tutorials

MA tutorial: https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev/docs/tutorials/clothing
VRCFury tutorial: https://vrcfury.com/tutorials/linking-clothes

[drifting halo]

setup outfit did this

[left wharf]

hmm, that's weird
can you show me the hierarchy?
expand all bones of avatar and clothes

[drifting halo]

or do i expand more which part?

[left wharf]

also expand clothes' bones, please

[drifting halo]

this?

sorry its kinda hard to fix the image in my monitor

[lunar sigil]

hey so I'm trying to add an asset to my existing avatar I'm following the guide that came with the asset but i don't understand what to do for this step "Merge the animations into your avatar's FX controller"

note I am working with a very nothing knowledge base sorry.

[left wharf]

ya, that's ok
but ahh... that's too complex bone hierarchy for VRChat i think

[drifting halo]

the avatar was looking just fine right before adding the animation

[drifting halo]

thank you for your help

ill see what else i can do

[somber sequoia]

Avatars 3.0 manager can do this. The new package has some animations in a controller, but you need to merge that controller with your avatar's FX controller. It does assume you know some stuff about animation controllers

[gloomy wind]

Anyone know how to fix this error? I'm trying to use a png as a face for my avatar

[somber sequoia]

You can't use that shader on quest avatars

[gloomy wind]

So I can't make my avatars faces pngs for quest?

[somber sequoia]

sure, you can use PNGs, you just can't use alpha transparency

[gloomy wind]

Whats other ways could I do it? Like what can I use?

[somber sequoia]

I don't really do quest stuff, but we have channels for specifically for this, I'd go dig through the scrollback there

[gloomy wind]

Ohh okay so ask in the "avatar quest" section?

[somber sequoia]

not what I said, but I suppose that could work.

[gloomy wind]

Ah I didn't understand what you were trying to tell me mb

[somber sequoia]

no worries

[surreal salmon]

whats the limit for seats on vrc

count wise

[uneven bough]

how do i make my avatar's audio scale with avatar size?

[night ember]

Thats the neat part
You dont

[surreal salmon]

could use a flipbook builder with multiple game objects tied to it applying each dependant on being applied by the radial togle

have the audio radious get bigger as u swap to the next

[raw gust]

toon standard detail mask just doesnt work. trying to apply it only in the grey areas n its just not

😭 jus want a normal map in the select areas on quest bruh

[ornate stump]

The mask is using alpha channel of texture to mask the detail. Does the texture has alpha channel?

[surreal salmon]

basically more audio sources and make them bigger and able to be toggled off

[raw gust]

nah I dont think so, how can I check?

[ornate stump]

Inspect your texture.

[ornate stump]

That isn't your mask texture.

[raw gust]

ah, my bad

Am I missing anything?

[ornate stump]

Do you see A button in preview below?

[dense marlin]

Hello! I'm unable to create new projects because of this error... I found some info online but it wasnt overly helpful.

[raw gust]

yeah, what do i need to do with it?

[ornate stump]

Click on it and see if the preview is a single color or has texture on.

[ornate stump]

And you must consider lowering texture Max Size. Using 4096 is too excessive.

[raw gust]

yeah i know, im just trying to get details down before I downscale everything

[raw gust]

not sure what I was supposed to click but I tried everything

[spiral lance]

having these errors in my vcc when trying to add packages into the project

[ornate stump]

I was only referring to "A" button. But that does it. You see the texture is just white when previewing A channel? That means as the mask for Toon Standard detail use A channel to mask, this texture just doesn't mask out anything.

[raw gust]

Okay, I gotcha gng, how could I make the texture use the A channel? I got photoshop just in case I need to mess with it there

[ornate stump]

That's one way. Another way is doing Swizzle in the Advanced settings in the texture. And choose the A channel to use any of RGB channel instead of A itself.

[raw gust]

Yeah, no matter what channel I change A to, its all the same, blank white in the A channel

[ornate stump]

Then change Alpha Source to Greyscale first.

This should make A channel available.

[raw gust]

ayyyy, that worked! thank ya kindly dude

[uneven bough]

so i'd have to mess with toggles when i make my avatar bigger to scale the audio?

[surreal salmon]

not scale, just swap to another audio source

[uneven bough]

point is i can't make it swap automatically when i make the avi bigger right?

[surreal salmon]

with a flipbook builder maybe

[uneven bough]

what's that?

[surreal salmon]

its a vrcfury thing

usually used for setting up material swaps or changing material propperty

[surreal salmon]

https://youtu.be/6ym-VTJ-YhY?si=TetgEeu5gKGAywJ6

[surreal salmon]

https://youtu.be/2jMR4B6ueJc?si=Shs80rwksF9nVyUz

nother that might be relavent for u

[uneven bough]

neither of those show how to make audio scale with size @surreal salmon

[night ember]

all you got is this

[surreal salmon]

ye that isnt what i was suggesting

[somber sequoia]

vertex colors?

[bronze rock]

im not sure what that is

im new to unity and blender (kinda to blender)

[somber sequoia]

you can paint colors into the actual vertices in blender or similar, lots of the basic shaders use those and multiply the color by the vertex color value. You can remove them in Blender

or use a shader that lets you toggle that

[bronze rock]

mk ill try that

[uneven bough]

what do u mean?

[night ember]

thats all you get for tracking scale

[uneven bough]

so that means i can only make the audio twice as loud when scaling to a certain size threshold right?

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

[uneven bough]

i'm just gonna forget about trying to make it scale then, though i did make my avatar's audio really quite even at it's smallest, any help with that?

[night ember]

if you just need it to be smaller when you are smaller then itd already do that

[uneven bough]

no i mean the problem is when i was testing it i couldn't hear it at all at default avatar size, shrinking my avatar made it louder but even when i shrunk down as much as possible it was still very quiet, so not only does the loudness not scale with size, it's also too quiet in the first place

[ornate stump]

This actually sounds like you didn't properly set range for the souce. You have to add VRCSpatialAudioSource component to the same object as audio source and set range from there.

[uneven bough]

i did

[ornate stump]

How you set its range?

[ornate stump]

Gain affact the volume 1 is too low. Normally it's 10. And also consider increase Near range. Don't use Audio Curve.

[uneven bough]

gain effect the volume 1? what?

[ornate stump]

Gain affacts the volume. 1 is too low. .

[uneven bough]

before i change some settings i should clarify i want a realistic volume drop-off instead of something that plays at the same volume no matter how far away a player is from it

u know that right?

[ornate stump]

Far and near only affect dropoff. Gain affacts volume.

[ornate stump]

You only heard the sound when you're small because small avatar compress all the object location which cause your audio source and camera to be closer together, makes the sound with low volume audible.

[uneven bough]

okay so for realistic audio i should uncheck use audio source volume curve, set gain to 10, and what should i set the near range to?

[ornate stump]

If you want to heard the audio yourself then set the near range to be furthest range between you head and the source.

[uneven bough]

just to clarify the min and max distance in the audio source doesn't matter cause i unchecked that right?

[ornate stump]

Doesn't matter.

[uneven bough]

ah ok, so now set the near range to the distance between my head and the source right?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[uneven bough]

thanks, now what would u say is a realistic far setting for a handful of mud splattering on the ground sound? assuming the source is where the mud lands of course

[ornate stump]

"Realistic" is too subjective. Most people can't distinguish the realistic sound range. Realistically, the audio would travels indefinitely with inverse square drop off. But avatar has maximum Far limit at 40 meters.

[uneven bough]

i don't know how to do any of this except step 1, any help?

[somber sequoia]

#2 means literally adding that parameter to your animation controller.

[ornate stump]

Did you ask AI? I had no answer whether the component can be animated or not.

[uneven bough]

no i'm just wondering if u could help with scailing to since it seems u can do that

[ornate stump]

Do you know how to record animation?

[uneven bough]

so even though it's an animation it'll still scale the audio automatically when i change my avi height right?

[ornate stump]

If it can be animated and applied then yes.

[ornate stump]

Just so you know, every avatar logic is based on animation.

[uneven bough]

and how do i get that parameter? i've never messed with animations before

[quasi crypt]

Is the problem with unity or is it just me my project was corrupted and I tried to get rid of it and it just won't delete and tried force deleting it but still won't work and in another project it take forever when I click on a certain menu on an avatar and get a loading screen that says inspector.InitOrRebuild waiting for unity's code to finish executing is there a way to fix these both problems I have

[ornate stump]

Any built-in parameter you could just add the parameter into animator parameter list.

[uneven bough]

and how do i do that lol

[ornate stump]

Do you have FX animator controller at all?

[uneven bough]

yup

[ornate stump]

Can you take a look in the parameter list in that animator controller?

[uneven bough]

how do i open that list? highlighting it in the project tab isn't showing anything

[ornate stump]

From the top menu Window > Animations > Animator

[uneven bough]

ah ok it's showing those connected state boxes now

[arctic ginkgo]

I don't have an Index myself, but as an avatar creator, I'm wondering if there's a way for Index users to use gesture animations instead of finger tracking or if I should add a toggle onto the avatar to do that for custom hand animations based on gestures, like for holding objects a specific way, spreading or crossing fingers, using sign language, etc

like is there a setting in VRC or steam or elsewhere that they can use to override their finger tracking with the gesture animations that are on the avatar's gesture layer (like how Quest controllers work), or is that something the avatar would have to do with animator tracking control?

I'm making an interactive telekinesis system based on the Absolute Solver from Murder Drones and I want it to be compatible with basically any setup (Gesture controls, Index finger tracking, Quest hand tracking, Desktop, etc) and intuitive to use while remaining immersive as an option (so you don't have to rely on menu toggles to change options, move things around, etc)

[gaunt knoll]

the index uses gestures

just the same as every other headset

[arctic ginkgo]

so when they move their fingers they follow the animations in the gesture layer? because I thought they had finger tracking that activates the gesture layer, but overrides the gesture animations for the hand (since the fingers are tracked) if you don't use animator tracking control to set the fingers to "animation"

I think you may not be understanding my question

[arctic ginkgo]

Quest users move their fingers:

• gesture parameter changes
• fingers move according to animation because there is not tracking
• anything else gesture-driven works correctly (like facial expressions)

Index users move their fingers:

• gesture parameter changes
• fingers move according to tracking
• fingers do not move according to animation (because of the tracking)
• anything else gesture-driven works correctly (like facial expressions)

I'm wanting Index users to be able to have the same experience with my avatars as Quest users would have, but I'd like to it to be optional.

I can change this with the Animator Tracking Control state behavior by setting fingers to Animation instead of Tracking.

The issue with this is that there is no way (afaik) to distinguish between someone using Quest hand tracking and Index finger tracking automatically, and Quest hand tracking (afaik) does not trigger gestures in any scenario while Index finger tracking does.

This means if you enable this option while using Quest hand tracking, your hands will just freeze, which is not ideal. I'd like to trust people to not be dumb and not turn it on if they aren't using Index controllers, but I'd much prefer to design my avatars to be as seamless and intuitive to use as possible.

So what I'm looking to understand is if there is a way for Index users to change this themselves with a setting (in VRC, SteamVR, etc), and if not, I'd like to know if there is a way to automatically detect if someone is using an Index or Quest that isn't too convoluted (and basing it off of platform AKA Quest vs PC wont' work because you can use Quest hand tracking by connecting a Quest headset to PC).

If not, that's okay, I'll just put (Index ONLY) on the name of the toggle and hope it's not too confusing 😅

The reason I'm wanting to do this btw is because index finger tracking is more limited than Quest hand tracking in the ways you can move your fingers. Most importantly, you cannot splay them. The system I'm trying to recreate is from a show where they use specific hand gestures to control a telekinesis power — iconically with their thumb, index, and middle finger splayed, and doing things like pinching and spinning their fingers to move and rotate objects with precision. These aren't really actions that are supported by Index finger tracking though.

I have friends that use Index, and so I will have them test it for functionality, intuitiveness, etc, but my plan is to adapt comfortable gesture-based controls for Index and Quest controllers that will optionally animate the fingers to match what the characters in the show would do, even if you aren't mimicking those exact movements. For example, making a peace sign to splay your first three fingers, or making a fist to pinch them together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNnkn6eitoE

the first like 4 seconds of this video shows a character using the ability, see how she moves her hands and fingers to control the knives.

[arctic ginkgo]

i just would like to know if it's possible to use gesture animations with an index (without modifying the avatar to do this) or if there's a not super convoluted way for avatars to detect if someone is on index. sorry for the long explanation, I was hoping it would provide clarity 😅

I think I'll just go with trying to clearly label the toggle (which disables finger tracking to enable custom gesture animations) as INDEX ONLY so quest finger tracking users don't get confused

[gaunt knoll]

like i said the index can use gesture yes it its very weird sometimes but we can do face expression and stuff that triggers it

and some gesture can be harder to hit lets say rock n roll thats harder to hit then the sign

[untold swift]

Can annyone help me, i cant seem to upload avatars to android, its greyed out for some reason and i dont know how to fix it

[somber sequoia]

install the android build tools.
https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/build-test-mobile#set-up-unity-android-tools

[valid marsh]

How can I fix the hair doing this? It seems when I move closer to the world spawn point, it becomes less and less prominent and vice versa for going farther.

closer to spawn

[valid marsh]

nvm seemed to be a world issue

[hidden kindle]

I can't seem to find the reason for this
Blendshapes was completely fine but when i test the avatar using gesture manager or even in VRchat my Shoulder and Upper arm are set to off by themself. any suggestion?

[somber sequoia]

An animation must be causing that

[valid marsh]

How can I fix this?

Should look more like this

[somber sequoia]

what, the color?

[valid marsh]

Yes

its using standard lite

[somber sequoia]

show your material settings

[minor crater]

what haooened to her neck aaaa

[hidden kindle]

I can't seem to find the troublemaker for this, anything especially
i have to look for?

[somber sequoia]

I usually disable all layers then enable each one to find out which causes it

[valid marsh]

.

[somber sequoia]

I don't really use standard lite and don't see anything very weird as far as color settings here, maybe play with the metallic setting? Not sure what you're using occlusion for and that looks like a normal map in the slot, which is probably not what you're going for... unless maybe you are?

[valid marsh]

yeah the normal map works good as an occlusion

[somber sequoia]

okay, never tried that.

[valid marsh]

it seems to be some sort of specular issue, i removed the detail normals for more clarity and when turning off specular lightprobe hack it stops being an issue, but then it doesnt look as good

okay it seems to be a specular issue involving the directional light, as using a point light does not recreate the issue

[flat skiff]

I'm trying to upload a model but it has errors that require the auto fix feature but I can't see them on this drop down

[buoyant hamlet]

that's some weird shit

[flat skiff]

Ikr it’s only happening with the one model and idk why

[buoyant hamlet]

huh

try to look for mistakes in ur avatar

maybe some problems with gestures

mb w bones

idk

[buoyant hamlet]

copypaste what it writes in console

[flat skiff]

these are the errors i get when i try to upload it

[somber sequoia]

Second one, the one about read/write meshes.

probably fix the second one also

[flat skiff]

How??

[somber sequoia]

checkbox in the first tab in the inspector when you click on the model file

[flat skiff]

this

[somber sequoia]

that

[flat skiff]

ok i checked the boxes

[tired loom]

Hello all im currently working of my first rex avatar, im using the base rex model. after exporting it into unity and seting up the materials with their textures and matching them to the appropriate parts i cant get the fluff_head_ears one to take the texture properly. It either shows up all black, or all black with the emission blue tips. Does anyone know what im doing wrong?

[buoyant hamlet]

mb wrong textures?

[wet gyro]

how do i fix the choker not being on the neck

i'm using vrcfury to link it to the neck bone

[tired loom]

i dont believe so all the others worked perfectly

[buoyant hamlet]

you need to move fbx to ur neck

[balmy barn]

just put the mesh on the neck bone, no need for vrcfury link or better weightpaint it to the neckbone

[wet gyro]

damn that easy huh

wtf is vrcfury for then

[flat skiff]

i still dunno how to fix the other stuff manually since the auto thing still won't show

[somber sequoia]

that blendshape normals one is in the same place as the one you just fixed

[half plover]

can someone help me with this

[somber sequoia]

what about it, exactly?

[half plover]

i cant upload it and idk why

[somber sequoia]

there are 23 errors - see the red indicator above the console. Inspect the first few of those.

[flat skiff]

okay what am i meant to change 😭

wait

[somber sequoia]

It tells you what to change though

[flat skiff]

i just saw

[somber sequoia]

"missing script" means you didn't install some package that's required by components on your avatar.

[half plover]

so how do i fix that

[somber sequoia]

Install the missing package.

No idea what it is from the message though, check the creator's documentation

[half plover]

i did and it says the poyomi the avi and the fury one witch the fury one is automaic and i have added the other 2

[somber sequoia]

yeah Fury is usually a good guess

[half plover]

it does say to detach the pipeline thing but there is none

[somber sequoia]

no that's a side-effect of the other errors.

[half plover]

oh so i downloaded a avi that i can even use? bc that is the one the creator gave me for the avi

[somber sequoia]

You can't use it until you fix that error, nope.

[half plover]

but if i cant find the error

[somber sequoia]

you can always just remove the scripts, though that might break something

[left gull]

contact the creator u purchased from about it, might be a common issue with that model

[proud vessel]

Hello! I dunno if any of you can help me but I need someone who makes avatars at a pretty advanced level. Does anyone know how people shrink mesh to hide the body under clothes? I'm wracking my head! I'm wanting to do it with blendshape where I hide the body under the skin to minimize clipping. :3 I tried googling and couldn't find anything so I figured if anyone could help me its vrchat avi creators haha ^^

[left gull]

look up how to do shapekeys,thats what most do if your planning on keeping the mesh underneath the clothes for later usage

[balmy barn]

id just use a matswap if its that close to your skin anyway

[errant comet]

I don't know why it wasn't mentioned, but you are also inside of a prefab, you won't be able to upload regardless of fixing the errors until you go back to the scene

[timber wharf]

@proud vessel youre looking for shrink-fatten operation btw, its literally called that. and shapekeys yes

[plain lava]

Is there anyway to get rid of the fanning lines?

[waxen jungle]

It doesn't look like your bones are parented at all

try applying all transforms in blender too

[plain lava]

Is there anything else or is that it?

[wet gyro]

these shoes come in a pair but i can't seem to get them to fit right... any fix?

[broken summit]

this is a problem i need help

[plain lava]

This is how I do it but go into edit mode and select that entire shoe and just move it slightly

[wet gyro]

they are both connected so i can't

if i move one the other moves

how do i separate them

[plain lava]

Hold on just sec i didn’t think of that

[broken summit]

Help me please

[uneven bough]

anyone still wanna help with this?

[stable citrus]

Definitely a problem

[lime hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043649145061257286/1462942934277030131/image.png?ex=69700747&is=696eb5c7&hm=b56b43f4358e0bfa9086535f857d16c34aa5b60e6a774e0cd147e94629641be9&

can someone help my friend is trying to figure out why it keeps failing to validate for android?

uhh

[plain lava]

Honestly those are some questionable looking toggles

[lime hawk]

here sorry idk why it didn't load

[broken summit]

it broken 🙁

[waxen jungle]

you cant add sps on quest

[stable citrus]

Check each MenuExpression for the missing parameters reference (could be a toggle, redialpuppet, ect...)

[broken summit]

How come people can see quest sps?

[waxen jungle]

A quest user can enable it but cant see it

[broken summit]

😮

[plain lava]

Also what causes this see through issue?

[waxen jungle]

flipped normals in blender

in viewport overlays, check off face orientation, slect any faces that are red that shouldint be, press alt + n, flip normals

[plain lava]

Ohhh alr

[waxen jungle]

yeah it can happen in blender when you mirror or duplicate an object sometimes

you can also turn off backface culling in your shader which would also fix the issue but it will decrease preformance

[plain lava]

I don’t think it will matter much actually the black hides it pretty well

[waxen jungle]

yeah it can probably wait, but I would suggest fixing it as it will appear in other projects as well

I make sure to always have face orientation on inside of blender to prevent it from happening

[dark jay]

Is it possible it make it so a avatar has a music player that only plays music to the person wearing it not to others?

[kind heath]

I think it should work if you add an IsLocal condition to the toggle? Correct me if I'm wrong

[waxen jungle]

are you making a wearable pair of headphones? pretty cool idea but I dont know how to use the animator that much

but I would assume its possible

[broken summit]

It still bugging me when i uploading the safe for work one 🙁

[kind heath]

You have SPS somewhere on the avatar and that won't work on quest. If you want it sfw in the first place you can just ignore that popup

[broken summit]

how?

[kind heath]

Click Ok on the bottom right

[waxen jungle]

usually there might be an sps prefab or something

[kind heath]

yep ^

[waxen jungle]

idk where it would be in your exact avatar

[broken summit]

fixed it thx u two

Thx Minya and yee

[oak raptor]

texture on the back of my wings broke again when converting it to matcap lit material for questies. is there a way to fix this or just have to deal with it?

like maybe i could just set it to a different material thats compatible for quest?

[waxen jungle]

try toon standard and turn off backface culling

[oak raptor]

toon standard? that works for quest users?

[waxen jungle]

Yes

[oak raptor]

awesome thanks!

[dark jay]

i want people to see the music player just not hear the music

[oak raptor]

ok so im completely confused on the process of making ur avatar quest compatible.. i just made a completely separate duplicate of my original pc avatar and changed all the textures to be mobile friendly, but when i upload it is it gonna overwrite the one with the pc textures??

[kind heath]

nope, as long as you set it to android only

[waxen jungle]

no, you switch to android in the upload settings

just android

[oak raptor]

oh hm.. but my other avi is set to both android and pc. should i change that?

[waxen jungle]

as long as toggle names are identical there shouldint be any issues

[waxen jungle]

if it uses android textures on the pc version, it should be fine to do a multi upload

I personally have issues with multi uploads no matter what though

usually its best to just do it one at a time

[oak raptor]

ah ok so my main one should just be set to pc only and then i upload my quest as quest only?

[waxen jungle]

yeah, just make sure they have the same upload id

[oak raptor]

ok that helps a lot thank u so much ^W^

crazy how much ive learned about all this within like a week lmao

[waxen jungle]

yep, theres a lot to learn

keep up the good work though!

[oak raptor]

thanks! next up is toggles 🙃

ive literally fixed like all my main issues tho so thats awesome

ok have another question, trynna set the material of the lens of my glasses quest friendly too, how do i set transparency?

[kind heath]

you can use the additive/multiply shaders in Vrchat/Mobile/Particles!

[oak raptor]

one of them is completely solid and the other one is completely invisible 😭 i have no idea how to do this

[granite willow]

getting this now too, any fix?

[surreal salmon]

I usually upload for windows first. Swap to android, close unity. Then upload for android

Sometimes unity messes up between uploads an closing it gets rid of some errors

[vale cove]

Close all open programs and restart your computer

How I fixed it :3

It's been happening to me more often, unfortunately-

[kind heath]

Try a flat grey texture for the glass, that should work pretty well. You can adjust from there!

[oak raptor]

that helps, thank you! 😄

[sharp lily]

Making this, the eyes and texture is a placeholder for now but I wanna make the eyes textures but don’t know how to do that in a way where they can actually move and blink. I’m also looking to make clothes a overlay of some kind so I don’t need to worry about clipping, if that’s possible

[oak raptor]

ok so i added physbones to the jiggly parts of my avatar and it just like did not do anything?? not sure if im doing something wrong

[kind heath]

Are you in play mode?

They'll only move in play mode

[oak raptor]

nvm im dumb i added it to the wrong thing lmao

ok cool so now my jiggly parts are like way too light and go crazy when i move around xd

ig imma have to goto youtube for this

[kind heath]

Try tweaking the immobile setting :)

[undone oracle]

#avatar-showcase message thought id post here too, need opinions

[lethal aurora]

so im sketching out my model. I want the ears and two piercings to jiggle. How would this even set up- this is my first time ever making a model

[somber sequoia]

jiggling can be done with physbones in Unity. For the rest, standard modeling

[lethal aurora]

i plan on adding a mane but i would like it to be a bit see through with a tint, how would i approach that?

[somber sequoia]

if not quest, alpha transparency

[lethal aurora]

would i make that a seperate layer or combine that with the model??

[somber sequoia]

what's a "layer" here?

[lethal aurora]

I seen this tutorial video where they combined things so there wasnt collision. Something about the mesh not intertwining and removing that wall

[somber sequoia]

no idea what a layer means in that case either.

[lethal aurora]

hang on lemme pull a clip

"removes the overlapping part"

[somber sequoia]

I'm not really sure what you're trying to indicate here - it's two spheres?

[lethal aurora]

the boolean marker

[somber sequoia]

marker?

[somber sequoia]

That's a modifier. It's useful for combining meshes in various ways.

[lethal aurora]

yes that

do i have to do that with the mane and the body. if so, how do i make sure the whole thing isnt transparrent

[somber sequoia]

you don't have to do anything, but it could be a useful tool. I'm not sure how useful it is for hair, but hey, model however you want.

As for transparency, that's a matter of material properties.

[lethal aurora]

This is my first time. I had to scrap the model like 5 times because i messed something up

[somber sequoia]

oh - maybe I see what you're asking about - Modifiers in blender should all be applied before you export a .fbx file into Unity. They won't show up in unity or be used at runtime, they're really just modeling tools

[lethal aurora]

ohh okok

i just cant get the head right at all

is there any tricks or tips to sculpting something so that you dont mess one side up when you do the other

[somber sequoia]

sure, you could hide the half you don't want to affect

or just cut it in half, use a mirror modifier so you only have to do one side

[lethal aurora]

i have no idea how to use these tools

[somber sequoia]

good thing we have tutorials and manuals 🙂

[lethal aurora]

where

[somber sequoia]

the manual is at blender.org

as for tutorials, I don't tend to keep links to tutorials on subjects I already know

[lethal aurora]

thank you

[eternal aurora]

just wanted to thank you for the help it final clicked and i managed to get my avatar fix and downloaded

[lethal aurora]

how do i stop this with the mirror tool?? or how can i fix it??

[heavy ingot]

bikini kuikomi keeps resetting when going into game mode, how do i stop it from going back to 100, ive removed the ma shape change, and removed any kuikomi breast blendshape in all the clothes i added. it resets to 100 during game mode/gesture manager - bikini kuikomi makes the boob have an indent

[ornate stump]

It's because it gets animated in FX layer. You have to remove its animation from fx layer.

[ornate stump]

What isn't supposed to happen?

[heavy ingot]

Where can I find the FX layer?

[ornate stump]

Look for in from avatar descriptor.

[heavy ingot]

Got it thanks :3

[high crest]

I am still having this issue I thought they fixed this

I haven't been able to use for 2 or 3 days now

[polar bobcat]

Does anyone know why the SDK is telling me I cant use vrchat/mobile/particles/additive, even tho it should be good for quest?

[high crest]

Can someone help me out with this

[ornate stump]

You might have to ask in #creator-companion

[ornate stump]

Are you sure it's Additive shader? It's usally AlphaBlend shader that isn't permitted for use.

[polar bobcat]

So it looks like im blind and set it to Mobile/particles/additive

not vrchat

[arctic ginkgo]

ah no I still don't think you're understanding my question. I understand that index controllers can trigger gestures that control things like facial expressions. What I'm asking is if there's a way to turn off finger tracking and just do the basic hand animations.

I know you can do this on the avatar itself, but if you do, it breaks Quest hand tracking, and since this will be a public avatar, I don't want someone to mistake this setting (which is specifically for Index users) as something for Quest and then freeze their hands and get all confused why their hands are "broken"

but I think I might just label it something like:

Force Gesture Animations
(INDEX ONLY)

[proud dagger]

So im having a problem with a avatar the Avatar has a Logo on its shirt i want to swap it out im assuming its baked on the shirt of the avatar but im completely lost on what to do 😅

[ornate stump]

If it's on a texture, you could use image editor app to erase the logo and overlay a new one on.

[proud dagger]

Its not a texture the texture box is blank

[proud dagger]

^

[ornate stump]

Does it show any where in the material preview below?

You can bake texture onto model vertex color. But this doesn't look like it's baked vertex color because texture quality is too good to be vertex color.

[proud dagger]

I believe so

And mmm

[ornate stump]

Can you confirm it instead of just believe? Also screenshot it.

[proud dagger]

Ok

[proud dagger]

It does show

Its the pumpkin by the way

[ornate stump]

I only asked for if you can see the skull logo in this material preview for that material.

[proud dagger]

Ohh then no i dont

[ornate stump]

Then the logo is on another material.

[proud dagger]

Hmm

Ill look

I do see its just real small

The same black shirt

[uneven bough]

anyone know how to make the audio my avatar plays scale with avatar height?

[ornate stump]

Then it's some of the material feature that has the skull texture on it. You have to be thorough and check on every texture on that material.

[ornate stump]

Didn't you ask the same question yesterday, but stuck on making animation for it?

[proud dagger]

So i just still use the image editor to remove then slap a logo on it

[ornate stump]

Did you find the texture that has the skull logo? If the logo is on the texture by itself, you could just swap it with your logo.

[proud dagger]

It has 2
Texture 2D array
Texture 2d import

[ornate stump]

Is it on flipbook?

[proud dagger]

Assuming 1 for image and 1 for animation

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot where you find the texture on the material instead?

[uneven bough]

yup that's where i got stuck, still wanna help me with that? i'm in the animation tab that shows those connected boxes now

[ornate stump]

You're showing texture settings. Not the material section I asked for. And that isn't the skull logo that's on the shirt.

[ornate stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtSg6_W07Y See this video for how to make animation in general first.

[uneven bough]

mind just walking me through how to do what i'm trying to do? i doubt i'm ever gonna make animations for an avatar again after this

[ornate stump]

Try to follow the video first until you get to the part where you can hit the record button.

[uneven bough]

when it says to create a new expressions parameters and menu object, what do i do if i use vrcfury?

[ornate stump]

You don't use VRCFury for this.

[uneven bough]

and it won't conflict with anything else that's activated by vrcfury?

[ornate stump]

No.

[uneven bough]

specifically a vrcfury thing that's turned on in the expressions menu?

[ornate stump]

And you have to skip expression parameter and menu.

[ornate stump]

No.

[uneven bough]

oh so i don't have to add those?

[ornate stump]

No.

[uneven bough]

so where in the video do i skip ahead to?

[ornate stump]

You add only the EyeHeightAsPercent in the parameter inside of animator controller parameter list.

[ornate stump]

The making animation.

[uneven bough]

i don't know where to start in that part cause he's toggling a prop but i'm doing something different, do i start following when he gets to the opening the FX controller part?

[ornate stump]

Yes. The main part is getting the record available.

[uneven bough]

so now i click on the plus sighn at the top of the parameter's list and look for that then select it?

[ornate stump]

Look for what?

[uneven bough]

EyeHeightAsPercent

[ornate stump]

There isn't anywhere to look for. You have to type it in as parameter name.

[uneven bough]

oh i see, so which of the 4 types do i select first?

[ornate stump]

Float

[uneven bough]

then name it EyeHeightAsPercent?

[ornate stump]

Of course.

[uneven bough]

now what?

[ornate stump]

Continue until you get to the part where you get to record.

[uneven bough]

he doesn't get to the recording after that part

[ornate stump]

Continue watching what he does to get to the recording.

[uneven bough]

like i said he's animating a prop toggle so i don't know what to do differently for my audio

[ornate stump]

You have to slide the slider Audio far range when in recording mode.

[uneven bough]

i set the far range of the audio to the highest vrc will allow so do i need to do something a little differently?

[ornate stump]

Whatever range you deem reasonable and not exceed the vrc limit.

[uneven bough]

let me clarify on my avatar before hand not when recording

so i'm assuming past a certain size my avatar's audio won't get any louder which i'm fine with

[ornate stump]

You will have to record 2 keyframes: one is minimum range when avatar is at smallest (0.2meter), and second is maximum range when avatar is at tallest(5meter).

[uneven bough]

yeah that video isn't helping so u mind just telling me what to do step by step after adding the EyeHeightAsPercent to the parameters? it's kinda what you've been doing already anyway lol

[ornate stump]

Adding parameter is at the later part of the video.

[ornate stump]

You will have to record animation also.

[uneven bough]

well that's all i've done so far so now what?

[ornate stump]

If you had done it why would you still ask me to tell you to add the parameter?

[uneven bough]

i didn't?

not before i asked u how to do that

[ornate stump]

So you had the parameter, and the animation file now? Can you screenshot what you had in the animation file?

Also screenshot where you added the parameter.

[uneven bough]

no all i have is the parameter added to the list

[ornate stump]

Where did you stuck on recording animation?

[uneven bough]

u asking where i got stuck on the video?

[ornate stump]

Yes. Did you create animation file yet?

[uneven bough]

no, how do i do that for my audio?

[ornate stump]

Just do the same way as showing in the video. Follow until you get to the part where it's recording animation.

Because you're going to record a different thing from the video.

[uneven bough]

he's doing stuff with a prop before he get's to the recording animation, don't i have to do something different?

[ornate stump]

You could do that as well. It isn't going to affect your goal.

[uneven bough]

so just ignore all the stuff leading up to the recording part?

[ornate stump]

No. Some part is essential for recording, some aren't. If you're confused, you could do everything that the video say.

[uneven bough]

i'm not trying to toggle any props or anything, i'm trying to do a specific thing which u know is scaling my avatar's audio (plays when i make a fist with my right hand) with sound and i'm not learning how avatar animations work just to do that

i just want a step by step explanation

[ornate stump]

Your goal can only be archive by making animation, recording animation is a part of of that video which so you have to see how to record animation.

Because every avatar logic is made by animation and animator state logic. The animation is made to animate audio range.

[uneven bough]

yes i know but that video isn't specific enough for what i'm trying to do so just please tell me how to get this done step by step

[ornate stump]

The current task is getting animation recorded. You have to create animation clip and add to the FX controller.

[uneven bough]

okay so first i create a new animation in assets right?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[uneven bough]

k now what?

[ornate stump]

add to the FX controller.

[uneven bough]

how do i do that?

[ornate stump]

Create new layer in FX animator controller and drag the animation clip in the new layer.

[uneven bough]

how do i do that?

[ornate stump]

Do what part?

[uneven bough]

so with the FX selected just go to layers then select the plus sign right?

[ornate stump]

Yes. See you could just try to figure out something trivial.

[uneven bough]

k now waht?

[ornate stump]

and drag the animation clip in the new layer.

[uneven bough]

how do i do that? put it in the mask box?

[ornate stump]

The layer content is shown in the grid window at the right side.

[uneven bough]

oh just drag it in there right? also recording the animation will come later right?

[junior void]

wow

[ornate stump]

Yes. This is shown in the video if you actually watch it.

[uneven bough]

now what?

[ornate stump]

Can you click on the record button now?

[uneven bough]

don't see a record button anywhere

[ornate stump]

You should at least watch the video as a whole once and see its process. The point even is for making toggle but the majority is for making animation and animator logic that you could use some knowledge to applied to your audio scaling.

[ornate stump]

And keep in mind I don't have time all day to coach you through every step possible.

[uneven bough]

i'm most likely not gonna use that knowledge in the future and this isn't every step possible it's very specific steps

[ornate stump]

That implies my help won't be any help in the future.

[uneven bough]

think i'm doing something right, am i?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[uneven bough]

that's the animation clip i just created

[uneven bough]

k now what?

[ornate stump]

Now add the FX animator controller to the avatar Animator component.

[uneven bough]

under playable layers in the vrc avatar descriptor? cause it's already in the fx slot in that section

[ornate stump]

I'm referring to a component, the Animator Component.

[uneven bough]

where's that?

[ornate stump]

Scroll around the inspector where you see the object that has avatar descriptor.

[uneven bough]

wait should i have started recording for the animation here before adding to the component?

[ornate stump]

No. You can't record without having it in the animator component.

[uneven bough]

here?

[ornate stump]

There isn't avatar descriptor anywhere on that.

[uneven bough]

oh duh u meant this sorry, yeah it's already in there

[ornate stump]

Then select the audio source from the scene and you should be able to record.

[uneven bough]

select the audio source from the scene?

how do i do that?

[junior void]

do you not know where the audio source is located

[uneven bough]

oh on my avatar?

[ornate stump]

Of course.

[junior void]

...from the scene...

[left wharf]

beautiful voice

[uneven bough]

looks like i can record now, now to make sure i don't mess anything up it should look like this right? also the audio source is under a box with the little green plus sign, by default it's unchecked and is meant to "play on awake" when activated by a gesture, do i need to do anything differently then normal because of how i have it set up or nah?

[ornate stump]

Make sure you change the Fist animation to the animation you created before recording.

[fair harness]

I'm not good at modelling

[uneven bough]

that won't change how to audio is activated right?

[ornate stump]

It changes the animation you're going to work on.

[uneven bough]

but it won't prevent it from playing when making the fist gesture right?

[left wharf]

-# i suggest to start from creating simple toggle animation first if you haven't created one

[ornate stump]

No.

[uneven bough]

wait how do i do that?

[ornate stump]

Before you ask "how do i do that", try having 5 minutes try to figure out first.

[uneven bough]

i just realized i should have the box with my actual audio source selected right?

[ornate stump]

Of course.

[uneven bough]

just to clarify by that i mean the box with the audio source component in it cuase i'm ussuming it'll auto find it right?

[ornate stump]

What will "auto find" it?

[uneven bough]

i mean i should have the box that has the audio source component under it in the inspector selected right?

[ornate stump]

That's what I meant by selecting the audio source, whether it's a box or any other shape doesn't matter.