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[olive pelican]

That actually reminds me I have to eventually learn VRCFury

[somber sequoia]

the blend tree is kinda insane

like it freezes my Unity while it loads

(this is the Winterpaw Feline, just the one I happened to open)

[olive pelican]

I'm so old school I do it all manually T_T

[somber sequoia]

yeah I really only use Fury for this prefab

nah, I'm good, I know what complicated looks like 🙂

[terse thorn]

okie lol

[olive pelican]

I wish I had examples of my TX RX anim setup to show, kek.

[terse thorn]

now time to work on the avi for my friend (this one has 78 and no ft)

[olive pelican]

RX listens to controller inputs and follows basic state logic, and sets an Int to the right state. TX then listens for a change in state, and applies the appropriate animation, so everything is synced.

Means it's 2 layers per exclusive prop slot, but has 255 possible states for each slot, syncing, and variable transitions between those states.

So, you theoretically could have 255 different props toggled by one int and 2 layers, with minimal exit listening.

All this to control a friggin censored bar.

[terse thorn]

lmao

[olive pelican]

I joke, but I wanna make this expandable as a basically universal prop control setup. Eventially with it's own deployment script and whatnot, so I can make things like prop guns and sunglasses asset sets that people can use.

[terse thorn]

nice

[near ice]

one triangle disappear depending on how i look at it, any way to fix this in unity?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean

[terse thorn]

is it a separate object, if so check the bounds maybe?

[near ice]

its all one mesh

[terse thorn]

ohhhhhh

thats backface culling

[somber sequoia]

yeah red = backface, so in Unity if you don't have your shader rendering back faces, they'll be missing

[terse thorn]

on the shader you are using look for a setting called culling ad set that to none

or fix it in blender

no idea on that one tho

[somber sequoia]

IMO if it's just a handful of faces, duplicate them, it's not worth turning that on

[terse thorn]

true

[near ice]

fixed it

ty

[terse thorn]

btw random question, is there any reason to not use blend trees besides how easy it is to edit and parameter drivers or am i allowed to be annoyed at avi creators for selling unoptimized avis

[near ice]

not sure, but unoptimized avis are hella annoying

[somber sequoia]

No real reason, I get the annoyance, this is why I don't use pre-built avatars, I do my own based on the model and textures and animations and such

I bet most don't know about them though

[near ice]

need a little help, i made this avi by scratch, i added a vrc avatar descriptor and animator, i would like it to blink and the mouth moves when i talk, can i simply copy other settings from another model and paste it to this new one?

[somber sequoia]

If the model is the same that'd work, but otherwise probably not helpful

it's not hard to setup though, I'd just do it from scratch

[near ice]

how do you do it from scratch

[somber sequoia]

much of that is documented here: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/creating-your-first-avatar

[somber sequoia]

Click "configure" and do the rig setup. It sometimes can't auto-detect.
You did weight paint, right?

[near ice]

yea i did and everything worked fine

[somber sequoia]

cool. Should be fine then if you go make sure it's got the right bones in the right places.

[near ice]

oh the whole rig is a mess

hips were in the arm area

[somber sequoia]

yeah sometimes it isn't good at it.... or your hierarchy isn't right

[digital cairn]

So my friend passed me an avatar for me to try and fix, and I'm honestly not really sure where to start, but I wanna see if I can fix whatever scripts are missing. I thought it was dynamic bones which I imported into here, but still nothing.

[near ice]

i think i fixed it

[somber sequoia]

you can't really tell just from the script component

[somber sequoia]

You need a chest bone.

[digital cairn]

I might honestly need some live help cuz this is definetely a broken model 😵‍💫

[somber sequoia]

(even if unity says it's optional, VRChat requires it)

[near ice]

can i put the spine bone twice?

[somber sequoia]

no

[terse thorn]

this is probs bad advice but just ignore the issue until you can find what is not on the current avi (also make sure you have vrcfury and modular avatar installed)

[somber sequoia]

You can't ignore it, it won't build with broken scripts. You can just remove those though, and hope nothing breaks 🙂

[digital cairn]

yeah I used pumkin to removing empty scripts

[somber sequoia]

oh that has a tool for that? Neat

[digital cairn]

Ye

[terse thorn]

at some point you will find something missing and then you can add it [or nothing ever breaks and it wasn't an issue in the first place :) ]

[modern gyro]

any ideas? i keep getting this nullreference problem

[terse thorn]

gogo isnt installed right

[somber sequoia]

definitely click that autofix button

[balmy barn]

[ auto fix ]

[terse thorn]

or the avi didnt do it right

oh ya

and autofix ;3

[lethal sluice]

I need a avatar thats a mil Sim type but female for one of my friends any one know some?

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

[terse thorn]

this might be a seprate issue

[somber sequoia]

it is - probably just don't have the gogo loco package installed

and/or VRCFury

[lethal sluice]

Ah alr sorry

[modern gyro]

auto fix didnt fix it, and i deleted gogoloco off the avi since i dont use it, still isnt working

[somber sequoia]

autofix definitely fixed one thing, there may be others

[modern gyro]

VRCFury and Poiyomi are added through creator companion

[terse thorn]

that's the issue though

like what's not working

[modern gyro]

it says "object reference not set to an instance of an object"

[somber sequoia]

no that's not the root cause - scroll up to the top of the errors list and look there

[digital cairn]

Yeah I have those installed. Well I still need help with the avi in general, cuz its not supposed to look like that

[open sage]

I need help. When I try to add automatic weights to my model it keeps enlarging and turning on its side

[spring basalt]

It looks like gogoloco prefab is broken, try reimporting a newer version
Or search for gogoloco to see if there's anything you arent seeing

[terse thorn]

didnt see that in the screenshot

[somber sequoia]

automatic weights is "okay" at best. But explain exactly how you did that? I have an idea...

[open sage]

Why???

[spring basalt]

You moved the object to the armature (i think) without applying scaling and rotations?

[somber sequoia]

probably means you didn't apply all transforms to all the objects you're working with before you started re-parenting things.

[open sage]

I selected the stuff then the bones then control p then add automatic bones

[somber sequoia]

yup, that's it.

undo things. Select the objects, ctrl+a, all transforms

[open sage]

Then I do the add weights?

Or is it supposed to prompt something

[somber sequoia]

Then you can do things which require re-parenting, yeah.

[digital cairn]

Is there any way to find out what the original shaders of an avatar are? I know you can open the material in notepad and it should tell you somewhere, but the materials here dont have that info when doing that.

[somber sequoia]

is this a ripped avatar? It sounds like it might be...

the log message from earlier was another sort of clue

[open sage]

It didn’t work

[somber sequoia]

maybe I'm wrong, in which case, no, not really a good way to tell

[open sage]

I think I’m missing a step maybe

[digital cairn]

I dont know. What would the differences be?

[somber sequoia]

paid asset that was stolen

[somber sequoia]

did it do the same thing though? what does "didn't work" mean exactly?

[open sage]

Ya the same thing

[somber sequoia]

maybe the apply transforms didn't work right

You did the armature too, right?

[open sage]

Yes

[somber sequoia]

all of the objects should have the same scaling and rotation

[open sage]

I selected everything

[somber sequoia]

(1,1,1 scaling, 0,0,0 rotation, 0,0,0 position)

[open sage]

Where do I see that

[somber sequoia]

'item' box in the right-side popup (the one that toggles with 'n') when you select an object in object mode in the layout view.

[open sage]

This

[somber sequoia]

Or that

I never look there so I forget to mention it 🙂

[open sage]

It came up automatically lol

[somber sequoia]

yeah I usually have my properties box on different things

[open sage]

All of that is correct it seems

[somber sequoia]

I'd expect this to work then

[digital cairn]

Okay so I asked my friend. and apparently its a rip of a public model.

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's what I thought

[open sage]

Well this time when I clicked all transformers it flipped

Same as before

[near ice]

hmm

[somber sequoia]

Did you add the chest bone?

[near ice]

oh right

[digital cairn]

What should I do then?

[somber sequoia]

Up to you, but most of us here won't help you with ripped assets. Pay your artists.

[open sage]

Should I redo the bones? Maybe I did something wrong with those? I have no idea what to do

[digital cairn]

I getcha. Yeah they never told me it was ripped, they just asked for my help with fixing it

[somber sequoia]

the result is the same.

[open sage]

Or maybe start a new project completely? I have no idea T^T

I spent so long making the model. I wanna make it work

[somber sequoia]

I doubt you'd need to fully restart, though I don't really know what's going on here either

[modern gyro]

okay, so i imported gogoloco to my creator companion and then made a new project, imported gogo, poiyomi, and vrcfury, and im still getting this error thing, any ideas?

[somber sequoia]

again, "auto fix"

Also "invalid username/password" seems clear too

[modern gyro]

i did the auto fix, didnt change the problem

[open sage]

I might just have to find someone to jump on a call to help me at some point. I have no idea what I’m doing

[near ice]

added it but still getting the same issue

[somber sequoia]

again, that fixes the specific problem, but you may have other problems.

[modern gyro]

and i simply typed my password wrong the first time that doesnt change it lol

[modern gyro]

i get that but im asking for help with the null problem

[somber sequoia]

And I'm again saying that is not a root-cause error, it's a side-effect of some other error you should be investigating.

[somber sequoia]

You do also have both neck and head, right? And try the "enforce t-pose" if you haven't.

[near ice]

yea neck and head are also good

how do i do enforce tpose

[somber sequoia]

it's under "pose" in the image you just sent

[near ice]

same error

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what's causing it from the things I've seen so far, sorry

[near ice]

all good

thank you though

ok i fixed it

[somber sequoia]

ooh, what was it?

[near ice]

but its unity so i got more errors

[somber sequoia]

haha that's normal

[near ice]

animator didnt have the avatar selected

[somber sequoia]

ahhhh

[near ice]

here are the new errors lol

[somber sequoia]

Those are warnings, and may not be important, you'll have to test

[near ice]

yea prolly

[proper depot]

How does one get the physbone colliders to not shake like this? I tried messing with the gravity and the collider size and just feel like nothing is really changing the shaking factor, only how much it is shaking? Its defo a collider issue though.

and if i edit the setting and it looks fine, the instant she is moving it starts to shake again and looks worse off too. So confused :(

[somber sequoia]

I try to avoid colliders for stuff like this, because of that jitter

sometimes you can't though

[proper depot]

thank you! Tbh i wish i didnt have to but its a for sale so xD gotta make it pretty haha

ty for the help

[somber sequoia]

definitely gotta make it pretty!

[modest musk]

Hi, I am new to here
I have set up 52Arkit in Blender, but I have no idea how to put them in Unity(in VRX Avatar Descriptor)
I saw a post on reddit said that I can make them to animation and add them to FX layer, so the OSC can see them...but I know FX layer can't activate multiple animation at the same time...

Can anyone help me?

[near ice]

so ive got these small triangles that are the eyes and mouth and is under one mesh with the whole body, but it doesnt move with the head

[sage garnet]

@full urchin hey sorry to ping but i got your grilln cat yesterday and im having some problems i want help with idk how to make these correct

[jagged frigate]

Did you ever figure out how to fix this? Im having the same issue 😭

[rotund python]

never seen ts before

[gaunt knoll]

what does it say

[near ice]

so in game my avatar is at an angle even though in unity its perfectly fine

also fixed all the warnings

[gaunt knoll]

weird

[near ice]

and then the bones in blender

[olive pelican]

Bones are wonky.

Hip rotation.

Fix your hip bone roll.

[rotund python]

can someone tell me how to fix this?

[tough marsh]

still havent figured out how to sync 2nd arms with the original arms, should i be using vrc rotation constraints or normal ones??

[sage garnet]

if your using vrc creator companion then if you manage projects you can update the sdk

[bronze sinew]

This is somewhat a Blender to Unity question if anybody knows.
I'm attempting to export a model from Blender, all works well seemingly there, but once going to Unity, all my Blendshapes seemingly breakdown completely. They work fine in Blender though.
https://gyazo.com/d613f3015c5340964296d9e36aa34183
A small recording to visually show what I mean.
I'm attempting to convert an MMD model using the updated unofficial CATS plugin.
I'm told might be something to do with the Basis shapekey?

[near ice]

anybody know how to make mouth and eye movements?

[sage garnet]

if anyones used the grilln cat avatar and grill asset could i get help

[tough marsh]

blender

[near ice]

blendshapes im assuming?

[tough marsh]

yep!

[cedar echo]

oh hi numi

[near ice]

mkay ty

[tough marsh]

hi evertide, do you know hopw to rig 2 sets of arms im crine over here

[near ice]

we got numi and rumi

[cedar echo]

yessssss

call?

[near ice]

please dont yell, i'll cry

[tough marsh]

okay dang.. what i said was please help me lol

[cedar echo]

Join the callllll

[distant trout]

Hii, i've been trying to make a low poly model but when i imported to unity it seems faces aren't rendered on both sides? i have tried converting my materials to urp but the model turns magenta (also i might want a way to make the textures not blurry)

[tall karma]

Hello! I'm just about to finish up my avatar but I'm having trouble once I import it into VRC. Everything looks and runs great when I use it without VR but as soon as I switch over it looks like I'm imitating a T-Rex. I remember the last iteration of this avatar having a similar issue and I solved it by changing the eye height and scaling up/down the arms. Assuming I want to keep my eyes in the spot I have them pictured, how would I solve this issue?

[near ice]

how can i make animations slower?

using the animator controller to control the speed isnt working for me

nvm

im dumb

[low siren]

So I have some avatars that I bought and I have one of them in blender and it’s not letting me upload it I tried fixing it it just doesn’t work

[near ice]

how can i make it so there's a longer break between blinks?

nnvm

avatar is tilted in game but in unity and blender its fine

[proven quail]

Depending on the shader you are using, there may be a culling mode setting. Most have the default set to back face culling. Try finding the setting and set the culling to none. Vrchat's toon standard shader has this feature

[proven quail]

Could it be the shoulders? Usually the shoulder bones are not touching each other and there is space between each shoulder and the chest/neck strand. I don't know if this is the issue but that's what stands out to me in your rig

[tall karma]

y'know what? I'll try that

[fallow ridge]

Hello. I'm working on this avatar and the only issue I keep running into is that the bones for the feet are not attached to anything in unity. I tried working on it in blender like my friends told me to but I can't figure out how to change the parent bone. I'm completely stuck and have no clue what to do

[lusty berry]

does anyone have/know a good yt video that shows how to add clothes to an avi(in unity), i got down adding everything but clothes, they just dont move with the character. maybe its a me issue though lol

[near ice]

https://youtu.be/aHFulMbnWwA?si=UdYcCGHvXg3j95Vj

[lusty berry]

i watched that exact one

didnt work

no clue what my issue is

[near ice]

https://youtu.be/4_R3f2PXdvs?si=HH5wj-Wpm5cLwxvz

[lusty berry]

ill try this

[stable citrus]

Low poly Teto !

[near ice]

yes!

someone made a Miku one and i love it and figured to make a Teto version

[stable citrus]

[brittle rose]

can someone tell me why the security check on my avatar keeps failing for quest all of a sudden it always used to just not let me upload bc of the mb size but that doesnt even show up anymore

[open sage]

I fixed it!! I was using mirror for the ears and apparently it broke it so I went back into my sculpting app and made the other ear its own layer and it fixed itself. I do need to know now how to decrease the polygons. Its solid orange when I look at the mesh

[tall karma]

Alright I tried doing that. No fix though it defo seems improved? Also lowering my height also fixes the issue, though my legs break when I do that

[civic sinew]

brand new project, wth

[gaunt knoll]

thats all the files and cash unity has

[frail vessel]

how do i turn assets on by default instead of having to toggle them?

[gaunt knoll]

what are you using

[frail vessel]

wdym, like for assets?

[gaunt knoll]

for the toggle

[frail vessel]

i apologize idek if you were talking to me LMFAO

[frail vessel]

they're toggles alreaady on the avatar

not using vrcfury they're put on manually i assume

[brittle rose]

do you still want it to be a toggle?

[frail vessel]

yes

[brittle rose]

theres a few things you could do

you could have the mesh on and make the animation turn it off

or you can have it to where the toggle is default on

[frail vessel]

i want it default on but able to come off when i toggle it off

[brittle rose]

yeah thats what i said

[fierce shoal]

i cant change to android, can someone help

[gaunt knoll]

go to unity hub

[fierce shoal]

all of these are already installed

[limber bison]

is there a way to animate a shotgun effect with vrcfury?

[gaunt knoll]

yeah you need to make the animateon your self then you can turn it on and off

[gaunt knoll]

how it all

show*

[limber bison]

I've tried but the buffer system I was told to make isn't working

[fierce shoal]

im installing it inside of the unity project itself

going to see if i can get it to work

[brittle rose]

lets help this guy out

[frail vessel]

Welp I broke something bc now qhen I toggle the shirt my blendshape activated and the shirt won't toggle back on

And my bracelet asset turns off as well

[fierce shoal]

most i would say is restart unity

its happened to me a few times, ive js had to wait it out

other than that, reinstalling the sdk or unity version would be my next choice

[proper fjord]

can someone help me with uploading a avi ?

[civic sinew]

theyre not popping up in my tools, i dont have anything but that

[gaunt knoll]

did you add them to CC

[open sage]

Is this to many polygons? I’m trying to make sure it works for quest

[civic sinew]

yup

its js refusing to work, ive opened like 2 diff projects and neither one had them pop up

[gaunt knoll]

im having issues with sdk right now as well

you first they can you send a screenshot of CC please

[civic sinew]

dunno what you wanted a ss of but here

[gaunt knoll]

can you send your log as well please

[civic sinew]

what in the log, my log is really long

[vagrant frost]

you desmated in blender?

[open sage]

Think so

[vagrant frost]

cats plug in?

or by hand?

[open sage]

Uhh modifier

[vagrant frost]

hmm

i think that kills weight painting

[open sage]

The video said to do that to lower polygons

Oh hmm

How else should I do that?

[vagrant frost]

did say jus on avatars?

[open sage]

It did not

[gaunt knoll]

that would be why it has so much. I recommend you doing it by hand

[vagrant frost]

hmm yeah i think that kills the uv (textures) and weight paints

[open sage]

I’ve never made an avatar from scratch before. I’m winging it with any videos I can find TwT

[civic sinew]

wdym

[vagrant frost]

hold up im working on my blender

[gaunt knoll]

can you send your log please

[open sage]

I made the model in nomad sculpt so when I moved it over it had a looooot of polygons

[vagrant frost]

OH

hmm you need reto it then UV maps weight pain and rig

[open sage]

Huh

[vagrant frost]

you scuplt this in nomad?

[open sage]

Yes on an iPad

[vagrant frost]

yeah you got lotta things to do

[open sage]

I knew I was missing something

[vagrant frost]

you need retopo make it all quads

then you need weight paint and rig it

[open sage]

Ahh I have already rigged it

That was several hours of research

[vagrant frost]

oh you weight painted already

[open sage]

Yes

[vagrant frost]

ah that helps

[open sage]

Everything moves properly but I’m afraid of the amount of polygons it has

I am a quest user so I need it to work for quest

[vagrant frost]

you still //should// look into retopology before weight painting but i can work this

create a vertex gorup call desmainte

decimate

[open sage]

Wha

[vagrant frost]

oh yeah you use auto weights

hold on

[gaunt knoll]

how are you going to upload it

[open sage]

Me?

[vagrant frost]

click on your mesh

see the vertext groups

click the plus

name it

place it in vertex goup of demsiate

that allow you limt desmation on avatar

[open sage]

I don’t have the triangle

[vagrant frost]

they are here ?

[civic sinew]

thats the issue, i cant

[gaunt knoll]

im looking chill

[vagrant frost]

can you use print screen so i can see the whole project

[open sage]

I just clicked the circle that makes it show

[open sage]

Ya

[civic sinew]

im good man lmao, just saying

[vagrant frost]

click on tri gabke

like this

not this

[open sage]

Ohhh

[vagrant frost]

also set it too that

set object mode and set the vall to the soid

[open sage]

Okay set

[vagrant frost]

copy you mesh ctrl c and ctrl v

[open sage]

It pasted part of the armature

[vagrant frost]

thats ok

[open sage]

Alright

[vagrant frost]

you need the poly count < than 20k

[open sage]

Do I do the modifier after pasting?

[vagrant frost]

yes

[open sage]

now it looks like this

[vagrant frost]

go to onhect mode

object

hid the unedited mesh

wait you edited a base model in nomad?

[open sage]

Sort of. It was a shell

[vagrant frost]

do you have original model?

[open sage]

I do not it’s very very old. I started editing it like 6 years ago

[vagrant frost]

what was the base

?

[open sage]

I can’t remember. I’m pretty sure it used to be a human with paws

I haven’t touched it in years. I just found it again and decided to make it into my fursona now

[vagrant frost]

Nanachi?

or a hobkin more liky

we keep going then

[open sage]

I have no idea I’m sorry TwT

[vagrant frost]

it ok

we need hid old bigger mesh

[open sage]

Someone gave it to me. It was a failed project they didn’t like so they gave it to me to play with

[open sage]

Yes hidden

[vagrant frost]

OH makes sense

create a gorup call deismate

[open sage]

Where do I create the group?

[vagrant frost]

the plus

top right

[open sage]

New collection?

[vagrant frost]

no bars on vertex groups

[open sage]

Im sorry i cant find where to find that

[vagrant frost]

vertext groups

im sorta burning out as of now

[open sage]

That’s alright. I think I am to. This is a lot

[vagrant frost]

looking into rigging and weight paint

[open sage]

I’m gonna save it how it is now and do some more research later

Thank you for all your help. I appreciate it

[vagrant frost]

^^

[civic sinew]

im dying tryna figure ts out

all of ts from a new project

[gaunt knoll]

can you share the whole screen please

[gaunt knoll]

sorry this looks like unity

[civic sinew]

yea? thats where the issue has been

[gaunt knoll]

you haven't put anything into it

[civic sinew]

nothing changes when i do, one sec ill show you

[gaunt knoll]

yes that is still unity

[left wharf]

the only issue is you are unpacking the prefab lol

[civic sinew]

that wasnt the og issue, nothing was popping up to do the uploading

[left wharf]

yes, that isn't a big probrem for now

[civic sinew]

so dont unpack ts gotcha tho

[left wharf]

ok if i understand correctly, you want to upload an avatar but there's nothing to do that, right?
then click VRChat SDK > Show Control Panel on the top of the window

[civic sinew]

lemme see

theres that and the toggle system isnt working

ill figure it out thx

[placid wasp]

Updates my SDK and Unity Version to 2022.3.22f1 (from 2022.3.6f1 and now i cant upload avatars anymore

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.<GenerateDebugHashset>g__ProcessStateMachine|35_0 (UnityEditor.Animations.AnimatorStateMachine stateMachine, System.String prefix, VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder+<>c__DisplayClass35_0& , VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder+<>c__DisplayClass35_1& ) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:560)

[somber sequoia]

You've restarted Unity, right?

[placid wasp]

many times since then, yes

[somber sequoia]

Is that the only error you see?

[placid wasp]

it still works on some avatars when i click "Select this avatar in the SDK control panel" but on some it doesnt 🤷‍♂️

yes

[somber sequoia]

and it doesn't go away when you clear?

[placid wasp]

appears when i tab / open the VRChat SDK panel

[somber sequoia]

you might have to remove and reinstall the SDK

[placid wasp]

i can try, should be straightforward through the CC right

[somber sequoia]

yes.
If that doesnt' work, you might have to close Unity entirely, delete the Library directory in your project, then restart it - it'll rebuild on start, but it might take a while.

usually the upgrades work fine. Sometimes...........

[placid wasp]

not doing that xd rebuilding the cache will take days

[placid wasp]

cant remove the SDK - Avatars lol

[somber sequoia]

unless you have an amazingly slow computer I'd be surprised if it takes more than like 10-20 minutes.

ah I don't use VCC, not sure the right method there.

[placid wasp]

my project is older than the people who play VRC nowdays xd

[somber sequoia]

hahaha

nice

[placid wasp]

ill try that

didnt work o7

[civic sinew]

this booth model is kinda aids

[gaunt knoll]

did you make a backup of the avi

[placid wasp]

turns out one of my animator layers killed itself and was completely broken lmao, redid it and everything is a-ok now

[somber sequoia]

huh!

[civic sinew]

ok, so im trying to simply upload this Hanka booth model but i cant drag and drop it into the heirarchy

[left wharf]

can you show me the video of what happened?

[civic sinew]

?

[left wharf]

i mean, i want to know what did you do
i guess you dropped a FBX Prefab instead of a preconfigured Prefab

[civic sinew]

i think so? im honestly not sure atp, ive been tryna get this model to work w me for a minute now gimme a second

[civic sinew]

i cant drag n drop any of it

[gaunt knoll]

thats the file...

[left wharf]

ok you did soo, ya

you need to drag and drop .unitypackage file into the "Project" tab, first

-# that brings back memories...
-# i also did like that XD

[civic sinew]

yea ive gotten a bunch of commed but never uploaded anything myself

[civic sinew]

like that?

thats the only way itd work-

[somber sequoia]

seems unpacked. Interesting.

[civic sinew]

it did ts itself yo

[left wharf]

also you drag and dropped a FBX Prefab

[left wharf]

hm, mb it's might be .blend file

[civic sinew]

it wouldnt let me do the unitypackage

well i think at least

[left wharf]

what so you mean by "do"?

[civic sinew]

drag n drop

into the area you specified

unless i did? i was doing like 2 things but now im locked on ts

[left wharf]

you can also do this: right click on the project tab, and Import Package > Custom Package to import unitypackage

[civic sinew]

ill delete what i have n try that

[civic sinew]

it came up the same way and as ive been told "unpacked"

[somber sequoia]

you got a unity package with an unpacked avatar prefab in it? wow someone did that wrong

Did you purchase this?

hmm how do you even do that though...

one assumes the model file is in the FBX folder and that's what you're dragging into the scene?

[left wharf]

hanka is a booth avatar
i don't heard about unpacked hanka...

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what it is, hence the question.

[civic sinew]

its from booth ill try and maybe a new project n redownload it or somth

[gritty frost]

as you can see the avatar leg is like anchored to the head , it's just sliding/ no walking animation , i checked on gogo thing also turned off if anyone knows anything please do tell me

[somber sequoia]

I don't really see what you're referring to there

[civic sinew]

redownloaded it, its coming packed now

what do i do now oh wise ones?

[digital cairn]

Sorry for the super late reply, but you said you managed to fix it?

[somber sequoia]

I missed what your goal was but probably follow one of the many basic avatar setup tutorials from here.

[gaunt knoll]

yes o have something toggles that your not meant to have

[digital cairn]

Sorry can you run that by me again? 😅

[gaunt knoll]

sorry getting late. you have a toggle turned on that your meant to

[digital cairn]

Oh do you know what it is?

[jagged frigate]

I think you might want to look into if your normals are oriented correctly on your mesh
And to make the textures not blurry just select the texture in unity and set the filter mode to Point (no filter) and apply.

this short explains how to fix flipped normals pretty well https://youtube.com/shorts/AsSV5PgQW4U

[placid sage]

does anyone how to fix this, my sdk is updated

[somber sequoia]

must not be if you're getting that message

[somber sequoia]

you're sure that's the same project? Maybe try to restart Unity.

[gaunt knoll]

there some issues with sdk

[placid sage]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-rdj-tony-stark-gif-26776750

ur right

its not the same project

😭

[gaunt knoll]

xD

[placid sage]

yeah its time to wrap it up im going to bed man

[somber sequoia]

been there 🙂

[gaunt knoll]

same

[frigid void]

Im not sure if this is the channel to ask, but would someone be able to help me edit a texture? Its a generic varsity jacket, but the creator only made black/red and a black/grey textures. Im trying to figure out how to make one of the textures black/white. I tried using gimp but im not very familiar with it and it made the entire image bright blue shaded which isnt what I want

[digital cairn]

Did you ever figure it out?

[junior void]

Nope

[civic sinew]

got till this point

[somber sequoia]

open "review any alerts" and look at what's there

[civic sinew]

no idea on these

[somber sequoia]

Click that auto fix button

but that first one is a problem you'll need to fix

the rest of it will just make you very poor

[civic sinew]

alr, you know how to fix that first one?

[somber sequoia]

Reconfigure your rig so it's correct

Check in the rig setup, maybe you missed a bone?

[civic sinew]

its a booth model so im not too sure

[civic sinew]

i set it to humanoid-

[somber sequoia]

doesn't mean it's actually correctly humanoid

does it still have the error?

[civic sinew]

its been set on humanoid since i started the project

[somber sequoia]

well it's saying it's not right, so go click "configure" in the rig setup and make sure the right bones are in the right slots

[civic sinew]

do i need the upper chest?

[somber sequoia]

no, that one is optional

but if you do have one, the shoulders should be direct children of it

[civic sinew]

yea its all figured out, now it wont upload for quest bc of the shaders but idk where to change that at

[somber sequoia]

top of each material is where you pick the shader

[civic sinew]

yup i did that to all of them that are on the avatar, its still giving me that warning

[somber sequoia]

might be a material swap animation somewhere

[spice obsidian]

I have a problem where I have that the model in blender is a-posing, in the avatar configuration is t-posing, but whenver im in game or in the gesture manager's play mode the shoulders won't work properly anymore and dont move with the arms

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot it while testing with gesture manager?

[junior drift]

I have my recroom avatar in Blender. it has a rig and I know it has textures and stuff that VRChat doesn't support I'm positive or pretty sure.
if someone wants to help me get my Rec Room avatar in VRChat or at least unity, I'd very much appreciate it

[ornate stump]

Model, rig, texture, material pretty much are industry standard and you could use in vrc if you can put it into unity.

[oak steeple]

Anyone else here who happen to use linux experience a bug with the unity editor where it randomly freezes/locks up until you rebot it again and knows a fix for that?

[junior drift]

see I'm pretty sure I can't put it into Unity because I tried and it didn't do what other people do when I watch the YouTube video

[ornate stump]

What did it do then?

[junior drift]

idk

i gottta repopen it

[ornate stump]

What even was your observation to be more descrptive than "it doesn't work"?

[spice obsidian]

Blender, Avatar Configurator, Gesture Manager Test

[rancid sundial]

dont see an avatar support channel so im posting here, why does unity stop the animation when selecting something in the hierarchy?

[ornate stump]

And what do you have in blender?

[junior drift]

uh... just stuff for the recroom avatar

[ornate stump]

Screenshot those stuff you have.

[junior drift]

i tried ro make it a vrm idk

[ornate stump]

Don't make it vrm if you're going to use in vrc.

[junior drift]

oh ok

[ornate stump]

Did you export as FBX file?

[junior drift]

yes

should i try again?

[ornate stump]

What does it do if you put this file into the scene?

[ornate stump]

I would rather say the shoulder position in idle animation is way high up with than the A-pose.

[ornate stump]

Screenshot the FBX export settings in blender.

[spice obsidian]

maybe? thats how the rig looks like in blender

[ornate stump]

idle animation just moved the shoulder up then.

[spice obsidian]

can I fix the idle animation somehow?

or should I just edit the rig

[ornate stump]

You could edit the idle animation by customizing the avatar base layer and change standing animation clip.

[ornate stump]

You also either could edit the rig.

[ornate stump]

Can you try export as a new file? Don't override the previous fbx file.

[hollow hull]

I have been trying to set a custom idle animation for a while and at this point i just want to give up. It has been days. Please dm me if you are willing to help, i guess i could stream you whats wrong

[cyan kettle]

does anyone know how I can fix the blurry mess that happens when I turn LTCGI on some of my materials, the top half is clearer than the lower half, I'd just like to know why it's doing it specifically :<

[strange jasper]

hey, just wanted to ask if squished faces are a common issue and if there is a solution for it. Kind of confused on why it happens.

[uneven whale]

Hello. I found an interesting sleep animation, but how can I make it not blend with other facial expressions? Similar to gestures and facial animations from the radial menu.

[proven quail]

You would have to edit the sleep animation to override the blendshapes the other facials use. The animation would have a bunch of face blendshapes set to 0 or the default value

[uneven whale]

Okay, what should I do with these facial animations set to 0?

[uneven whale]

Will they need to be removed, or just set the values so they don't mix with the sleep animation?

[proven quail]

So look at the facial expressions and see what blendshapes they use. And in the sleep animation, record those blendshapes as set to 0. This will override the facial animation when the sleep animation is active. You don't have to delete anything

When the sleep animation isnt playing, the facials should work like normal.

[uneven whale]

Thank you very much, I will try!

[vapid oar]

Castle crashers ref

[subtle hatch]

Where can I get a free avatar at? Or create one myself

[left gull]

you might be able to find some on Jinxxy but most avatars cost some type of money: https://jinxxy.com/

or you can look into making your own in Blender

[subtle hatch]

I can try I don’t really how to tho

[hazy quest]

What should be the Transform>Apply Scaling>? When exporting FBX for Vrchat?

[somber sequoia]

the default

[hazy quest]

All Local?
I don't think so.

[somber sequoia]

OH

sorry I should drink my coffee

That ideally should be FBX All unless you have good reasons to do otherwise

I was thinking of a checkbox lower

[hazy quest]

Was just making sure. Thanks👍

[somber sequoia]

I should remember to read entire messages before replying until after I've been awake a bit.

[hazy quest]

Here you go ☕

[somber sequoia]

yay, more coffee!

[gaunt knoll]

Now go to bed 🤣

[left gull]

theres plenty of how-to videos on Youtube and https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495 has some good resources too

additionally if you ask specific questions for stuff in here you could get some help just not like hand-holding for the whole process since its a pretty lengthy process

[uneven whale]

And if the animator doesn't have the required values, should they simply be added and set to 0?

[proven quail]

The animation won't have the values likely, so yeah add them and set them to 0

[livid river]

I'm trying to get Gesture Manager to show but when I go to tools it's not there

[gaunt knoll]

have you added it to CC

[livid river]

That was the issue, thanks

[gaunt knoll]

all good xD

[quasi moon]

Hey everyone, how's it going? I need some help... I've been getting an error for the last two days and I don't know what it could be.

DISCONNECTED Your connection to VTCHAT has expired. Check your connection and try again: OK (Timeout of 20 seconds)

I asked around on forums and they tell me it's something to do with the internet port, but I don't like messing with it too much haha... Any help would be a huge relief

[terse thorn]

thats more a #1138891887374237706 question

[gaunt knoll]

they are correct put it in there and i will type out some fixes you can do

[wooden wing]

HI, just a quick question. how long should i wait while an avatar uploads, before restarting unity?

[terse thorn]

about 400 seconds ago probs

[wooden wing]

oh xD

[terse thorn]

if something is in the background tasks while uploading for more then like 30s and there is not a popup showing the build progress than something probs broke

it only has something down there if its uploading it after its done building

[quasi moon]

Okay, I was able to upload the photo

[quasi moon]

I already made the post, I included the title "Argentina" just in case.

[wooden wing]

another question, does somebody know, what that error means? i get it when im trying to upload an avatar (to windows and android).

[terse thorn]

anyone know why the weight is getting set to 0 when i do the toggle? (didnt mean to reply to something 😭 )

its not doing it when i have the animation time to 0. only when i set it above 0 btw

[calm lodge]

When I have a vrm0.0 file and I'm using unity I can't duplicate and export the file its just grayed out

If you have e answer pls ping me I'm going offline for abit

[wooden wing]

so the reason why it didnt work was 1 setting in in windows settings because my pc language is set to german (utf-8) and unity didnt like that

[terse thorn]

checks out lol

[wooden wing]

yea, just didnt think, a windows setting would be the problem (have been trying to solve it for 5 days :/)

[gaunt knoll]

pretty sure vrm 0.0 are too old now and are no longer supported

1.0 what you should be using

[near ice]

so my friend needs help with an avatar, she gave me her vrc sdk info and i have the ID for the avatar that needs to be fixed, how can i import it into my project, or do i need the actual avatar files to do that?

[gaunt knoll]

how do you export the files to give to her?

is that what you meant

[junior void]

Files aren't stored in some cloud you can download. You need them to zip up the project or make it a unity package and send it to you to edit it.

[distant trout]

I imported my humanoid fbx into unity but one of the meshes is being moved by the wrong bone, is there any way to change it from a finger to the head bone?

[junior void]

In unity, no. You need to weight paint it in blender

[wispy elm]

Does anyone know where i can find idle hand/fingers animation on avatar and gogoloco? I have a problem where one of my avatar has idle fingers animation and other one for some reason have idle hand animation where hands wings like crazy

[somber sequoia]

Gesture layer, I believe.

[wispy elm]

I only see regular one-frame animations, I don't understand where this new one is coming from

[oak raptor]

i need help!! i bought this bat parts asset and in the thumbnail the textures work fine but in unity the back of the wings are transparent!! how do i fix this?

[timber wharf]

@oak raptor any shader without backface culling. poi on pc can toggle it off, toon standard on quest

[oak raptor]

i have no idea what that means ;-;

the wings take poiyomi

im also completely new to this

ive watched hours and hours of videos to try to help put this avatar together and im barely making any progress lmao

so is it possible to fix this in unity?

[agile reef]

Select the material of the wings and scroll all the way down til you see renderer and disable culling

it may say back culling- thats the problem. disable that

[somber sequoia]

https://www.poiyomi.com/rendering/#cull

[agile reef]

My default parameters are not defaulting when I spawn in. I have my parameters properly set and checked on the default thing but in gesture manager it is not working- I also have played around with the "fix write defaults " component and no changes. anyone know whats going on?

[oak raptor]

i dont see anywhere where it says renderer or disable culling >~<

i even used the search bar

[oak raptor]

.

WAIT

YESSSS

shut up vrchat im HAPPY

tahn k uu!!!

[agile reef]

im glad you found it lol

of course

[oak raptor]

someone tried to charge me $300 to do this btw

[agile reef]

to do what? the material fix??

[oak raptor]

yes lmao

[agile reef]

great heavens x, x

[oak raptor]

ok how hard would it be to try to extend the arm warmers on my avi xd

[agile reef]

extend the arm warmers?

like- to pull the clothing up your arm?

[oak raptor]

yeah

to cover my whole arm

[agile reef]

you would have to edit the clothing in blender

[oak raptor]

u think it would be easy?

[agile reef]

well I have a lot of blender experience so- its hard to answer that question

if you dont know blender, it might be a tad difficult but there are videos out there

[somber sequoia]

I literally posted the link to the documentation about this features.

[agile reef]

some people just need a bit more guidance with visuals.

[cedar steppe]

Nice cat though

[agile reef]

bumping this

[oak raptor]

thanks for understanding >.< youtube videos did not help me much at all lmao i think cause they go way too fast and dont cover my specific situation, same with reading guides. plus a lot of words thrown into my face at once and having to sort thru all of them to find what im looking for is hard for me being dyslexic and having adhd xd

[oak raptor]

its a bat but thanks xD

omg i feel like i can finally move on with my avatar lmfao

i been trynna fix the stupid wings for months now

[agile reef]

trust me I absolutely understand. Visuals are my way of learning also. I just wish people were more kind to that need

[oak raptor]

agreed, a lot of people who are already experienced probably dont know or remember how hard it is for people who are just getting into this

seems like unity is constantly changing and updating too so starting even from youtube videos that are all outdated is extremely frustrating

and apparently i started off with a more difficult model lmao but i have an exact idea of what i want so thats why im going with the booth models

[agile reef]

absolutely things can get frustrating in unity but hey, you're doing great so far and theres help all around ya

[timber wharf]

@oak raptor were literally on same render pipeline as 10 years ago so anything, in your case, regarding materials shaders etc would be applicable.

[oak raptor]

thanks!! ^W^

[oak raptor]

ig i just didnt know where to find this kinda stuff on youtube idk Dx again all of this is new to me. i literally just found out the other day that theres sites with free vrchat model accessories lmao

[wooden wing]

Hi, i have another question. I need the liltoon shader for an avatar. Does somebody know, where i can get it for unity?

[agile reef]

if you just google search liltoon shader a github will be accessible there for the download

[somber sequoia]

first hit

[analog fjord]

At what point of an public avi claiming to add something next update but not updating is it considered abandoned and i can force myself to learn unity to add the feature?

[wooden wing]

yes, but its not a unity package. is it possible to convert is somehow?

[somber sequoia]

there's link to install it via VCC on the page though, did you try that?

[wispy elm]

Does new sdk have different idle animation?

[timber wharf]

@wispy elm idle animation (or nay proxy) is client-sided. animations in sdk were at some point replaced with oneframes for legals reasons but they never were actually used in game (ie uploaded)

ie unless youre usin custom idle, your idle in sdk has not much to do with what will be playin in vrc for proxy_idle or whatever its name is

[wooden wing]

didnt see it. Thx

[timber wharf]

@analog fjord wdym. there are no proper ways for you to obtain a public avi and edit it.

[analog fjord]

Dangit

[wispy elm]

so if its client-sided is the reason why avatar uploaded week ago have different animation than avatars that upload in example today? Or I'm understanding it wrong 😅

[analog fjord]

I couldnt anyways

[timber wharf]

@wispy elm if they all use default locomotion controller then theyd look all the same

[wispy elm]

They should use the same controlers cause i didn't touch that part

[timber wharf]

but is it default? no gogo involved?

[wispy elm]

gogoloco yep

[timber wharf]

well then prob up to them. dont really know what gogo does but id expect less janky non-fbt is included

[cedar steppe]

Lol I meant to say that to Kazin, but your bat is awesome too

[somber sequoia]

hmm?

oh! my cat haha

[prime agate]

This sometimes happens with like 5 materials in my project and eventually it just stops but idk how to actually fix it. Any idea? I can't build or play mode

Tried reimporting them, updating my shader, and restarting the project to no avail

I even just made a replica of the material with a fresh material and it doesn't work too lol

[near charm]

How do I add gogo loco to an avatar?

[olive pelican]

Follow the instructions included with gogoloco.

[near charm]

I don't have it where do I go to get it??

[somber sequoia]

have you tried a search engine?

[olive pelican]

There's this really cool website called Google, it's kinda new so I understand you might not have heard of it.

[somber sequoia]

here, I'll help this time: https://gogoloco.net/

[olive pelican]

If you go to it and type "gogo loco vrchat" it'll show you websites that have that text in them.

[warped ether]

Wrong image one sec

This wasnt in the yt tutorial to uploading an avatar

[frail vessel]

how do i allow it to let me export the FBX

[oak raptor]

thanks!!

[somber sequoia]

Does your project not have a .fbx file in it already? Just import that. Trying to export here really not ideal at all

[frail vessel]

yes but its the PC version of that avatar

i made a quest version

[somber sequoia]

I'm not following - how did you make a quest version?

[frail vessel]

i deleted a bunch of stuff, and changed all the shaders and everything, i just need to delete some meshes and blendshapes to make a little smaller to upload

[somber sequoia]

I guess I'm not sure why that would matter then

[frail vessel]

bc the fbx already in the project has all this extra stuff on it that i already deleted thats why i wanted to export so i dont have to delete everything again

[somber sequoia]

ah you must have unpacked it to do that?

[frail vessel]

i honestly dont remember im just wanting to get this over and done with bc its lowkey making me tweak lmao

i hate unity sm

[night ember]

you cant really export to fbx

[frail vessel]

wdym

[night ember]

its never going to export properly nor should you be doing it that way

[frail vessel]

well if i use the one already in the project doesnt that mean everything i did in unity was for no reason?

[night ember]

fbx's dont have shaders
you need to edit the fbx in blender and overwrite it/reimport

[frail vessel]

ok so just deleting the assets is what matters?

or meshes

whatever its called

[night ember]

if you want to do that?

[frail vessel]

i thought that's what i have to do?

[eternal trail]

I copied and pasted some things from another avatar on to this one. When I paste the things into the hierarchy, they don't show up blue like the rest of the things meanwhile regular assets I added to the avatar like the glasses show up blue. Why is that? How do I fix the White ones?

[somber sequoia]

blue = part of a prefab
white = not part of a prefab

there's nothing to fix here

[eternal trail]

so it just doesn't work?

[somber sequoia]

what doesn't work?

[eternal trail]

adding the white coloured ones to the avatar?

[somber sequoia]

they're added, the color has nothing to do with that

[eternal trail]

If I want to make it part of the prefab, how do I do that?

[somber sequoia]

Blender

[eternal trail]

oh no

[somber sequoia]

that's the FBX file

[eternal trail]

I need to use blender? There's no other way?

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing one of those, "hair root" is a set of bones? you can't really add them like that. Blender is the right way to add bones.
maybe you could use VRCFury's armature link, but it really depends on what you're trying to do.

[eternal trail]

It's from a PC version of the avatar to the quest version. Ye, hair root is some bones 😅

[somber sequoia]

blender then

[eternal trail]

Thank you

[frank dragon]

anyone here know how to update an avatar from sdk 2.0 to 3.0? i’ve looked online for services but people charge anywhere from 200-500 for this process alone, which is over 10x more than i paid for the avatar itself lol.

[frail vessel]

how would i import all my avatar stuff onto the new fbx

[somber sequoia]

Pumkin's Tools does a decent job of that

[frail vessel]

what do i press to transfer all textures and everything

[somber sequoia]

I don't know, been a while since I did this

I don't even have that installed in any project

[frail vessel]

damnn

welp im cooked lmao

[somber sequoia]

no you aren't, it absolutely does the thing you want

[frail vessel]

i just gotta figure out how to use it lmao

[somber sequoia]

exactly

[somber osprey]

how do I get the gesture controller?

I was told to look for Tools that's in the top but I don't see it

[somber sequoia]

Gesture controller as in animation controller on your avatar, or Gesture manager as in the play-mode testing tool?

[modern oak]

Hi, good evening, I'm new to uploading avis, would it be possible if someone helps me with it, or can point me in the right direction, I managed to put the avis into unity but I'm kinda stuck😅

If someone can DM me with some advice that would be amazing

[somber sequoia]

It would help if you explain what you have just done and why you are stuck.

[agile reef]

the parameters I have set to default are not showing in vrchat. When i reset avatar or load into it- I see the clothings flicker but then turn off almost instantly like they're instantly being flicked on and off- what could be causing thiss??

[modern oak]

Ok, so I inserted the avi files into unity, but I don't know what to press from that point

[agile reef]

ill send you a tut video

[modern oak]

Nice, thank you kindly

[agile reef]

of course

[rain phoenix]

so.... how do i solve this..? its doing the same thing with all of the clothing im toggling in unity using gesture manager....

[rain phoenix]

you have to go to "manage project" in vcc and then add "gesture manager"

[somber osprey]

Gesture Manager

[left gull]

looks like weightpainting issue

[rain phoenix]

how would i fix?

[left gull]

in blender and check that its weighted properly to its nearest (i assume) arm bones and isnt weighted to any other bones in your armature

[rain phoenix]

their assets my friend gave me, ig he like bought them, does that mean the creator did something wrong?

[left gull]

id verify with your friend where they purchased them, and ask for proof of it since its pretty unlikely the creator flubbed something up like that or hasnt released an updated version

additionally get them to send the shop page since its likely they're not allowed to share it to begin with

[rain phoenix]

it has an image in the folder too

oop.... so i just outed my friend? lmao

[left gull]

and yourself

:P

[rain phoenix]

oh no....

hm....

yall didnt see this ig then...

:3...

[left gull]

not really how that works.

[rain phoenix]

wdym?

[left gull]

if you've broken a rule you've still broken a rule, people will be weary to help in here in the future :P

[rain phoenix]

mb T^T

not knowinglyyyy :(

-# can i still know how to fix it....?

[onyx lotus]

helloo how would i put a bang length radial wheel on my avi using vrcfury ??

[somber sequoia]

did you install it?

[left gull]

find out if its 1. legit first and 2. allows sharing before you continue to try and use it, if its neither then buy it legally and it'll either work properly or you can get help in here

otherwise you're committing piracy which is a crime and just not allowed in this server.

[left gull]

might have a quicker response time in the VRCFury discord server (or there might be an existing answer there)

[onyx lotus]

oh ur right

thank u!! lol

[slate nimbus]

how do i add gogo loco to an avatar

?

[merry pasture]

I need help

[somber sequoia]

https://gogoloco.net/ it's listed here

[merry pasture]

Where can I find a free female base file to start with?

I’m learning

[left gull]

you could try Jinxxy for more "realistic" stuff: https://jinxxy.com/ or Booth/Boothplorer for more anime stuff: https://booth.pm/en / https://boothplorer.com/

theres not too many free things avatar creation-wise though

[merry pasture]

Alright thank you. I may be back with more questions

[merry pasture]

how do i add it into unity

[left gull]

depends on what file you bought provides

is it a .unitypackage?

[merry pasture]

no its an FBX file tho

[left gull]

then you can just drag it into the assets folder

though if its just a base you're likely meant to take it into blender and add stuff like hair,clothes,accesories etc in that then export it to unity as a .fbx

[merry pasture]

Oh dang

[blazing garnet]

Hey there, I've been thinking about avatar animations.
I want to replace active/idle animations and have watched a few tutorials, but none of them really show how I can create animations of my own. Would I export the project as an fbx and try to animate it in blender? How would I bring it back, etc.

I'm familiar with blender but I'm just wondering how I would move it from blender to VRC if that's the appropriate step.

[somber sequoia]

no need to export, it's probably already a .fbx file

If you want to go that way

Just import it.

But you could also make the animation in Unity, if you like.

[blazing garnet]

Gotcha.

[west karma]

hi folks I am needing help with uploading the avatar i bought from gumroad. i was going through the process, had the assets in the project, setup all the info "name, thumbnail, etc" and it keeps having an error saying to check the logs. this is what was shown

someone said it could be missing pack like vrcfury which the gumroad page doesn't mention any packages. says vrchat ready. i was recommended to this channel for help

[somber sequoia]

Unfortunately, you can't tell from that message what package you need

but you could try installing VRCFury

[west karma]

i already did and no luck on the fix

[somber sequoia]

ah then it's something else

modular avatar?

(totally guessing)

[west karma]

I have no idea what that means lol. im fresh as a baby bird on this whole process. been trying to get through this for the past few hours

i did just notice i didnt have vrcfury enable on vcc so let me try after that

[somber sequoia]

oh

well that means you don't have it installed into your project

[west karma]

yeah ill see if i can get it to work now that its actually enabled lol

nope sadly same errors

[weak terrace]

so im trying to get started with modeling and creating my first avatar
any tips on how I should approach it?

[west karma]

ok idk what changed but I re-opened the project like 10 times and kept trying to publish. it randomly worked. thank ya for trying to help Kazin lol I appreciate it

[somber sequoia]

reshape the default blender cube!

[weak terrace]

ok i'll give it a shot
thanks Kazin

[left gull]

highly suggest looking in https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495 its good for general creation resources/how-tos

and will likely lead you down a suggestion rabbithole of modeling creators

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's the real answer 🙂

[west karma]

ok so another issue i have come across. upload went through but I noticed some of the expression sliders aren't doing anything. any of them regarding changing colors of the hair, the clothing. I can remove the facial hair and the head hair but no color changes. is that something I can solve in unity easily?

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's made in Unity. easily? depends 🙂

[west karma]

idk what program they used to make it.

[somber sequoia]

Unity

[west karma]

so it is strictly the options that are sliders. any thoughts on what i can do to fix that?

[somber sequoia]

having never seen anything about how it's setup, no idea, you'd have to start debugging

[shrewd pendant]

Question, does anybody know how to model in VR?

[somber sequoia]

Lots of people here do, don't ask to ask, just ask your questions

See also #3d-modeling

[dense vine]

I'm trying to learn how to use less synced parameters but all the ways I've found only sync when someone has your avi on

what can i do to condense this

[somber sequoia]

have less stuff on your avatar

try vrc fury's parameter compressor thingy

try to use bools instead of floats and ints

I go with the first method, removed stuff I never used

[dense vine]

im making a prefab not an avi

avi creators fill up most of the bit slots now so i really need to condence them as much as posable

[somber sequoia]

ah yeah, that's annoying

[eternal trail]

Not really sure how to even go about asking how to mix this monstrosity. Has anyone encountered this before? Ask me questions as needed and I'll try my best to answer.

[somber sequoia]

did you just export from blender?

usually it's best to describe what action you just took

[eternal trail]

yea as fbx, I then applied all the necessary components (animator, Descriptor) and converted it for Quest

[somber sequoia]

Okay - in the export dialog, set "apply scalings" to "FBX All" unless you know for sure it should be otherwise.

(also uncheck the thing for leaf bones, it's in there somewhere)

[eternal trail]

I will try that soon. thank you kindly

[undone oracle]

Hey I know you can use gogoloco but if you want to make your own sit/lay animations (doesn’t have to be overriding the original just as an animation that plays on toggle) but still be able to use the arms and such do you have to use the gesture layer and is there a mask just for the back and legs?

[somber sequoia]

you have to use gesture or action, there are masks like that or you can create your own

[undone oracle]

If you use action will you still be able to use the arms?

[somber sequoia]

depends on which parts of the avatar you "take over" and animate

(with VRC animator tracking control)

[undone oracle]

if no animation is on the arms bones it should still be fine?

[somber sequoia]

action is generally for full-body animations, so I think you'd need to do something specific for that. I don't have the docs in front of me though

[undone oracle]

That’s ok, if you know, in theory would using gesture layer work?

[somber sequoia]

there you explicitly mark what you want to animate

[undone oracle]

Using masks?

[somber sequoia]

no, tracking control

[undone oracle]

Oh

Is there a ton of YouTube vids on tracking control!

?

[somber sequoia]

not a clue, haven't looked

[undone oracle]

That’s ok

Is it fairly simple?

[somber sequoia]

it's here though: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-tracking-control

[undone oracle]

Ty

[somber sequoia]

read this and the section on "playable layers"

(read all of that site, more than once 🙂 )

[oak raptor]

almost done with my avatar, just need to figure out wtf is happening xdd help

[clever cloak]

guess who is re making their whole avatar over again for the like 10th time

and will def need help at some point

[ruby prism]

Trying to upload an avatar myself and it keeps redoing the compiling shaders when I'm trying to build it?

[eternal trail]

IT WORKED thank you so much

[remote gate]

i can build and test my avatar offline.. but not publish it online?

not a single error in the console, the area where you name it and such just goes grey after i hit build

[cedar echo]

Anyone know why I cant see the avatar bone thing

[raven summit]

I know this may sound silly but does anybody have a blank Draconian texture? or even just a picture of it? I need to make refs for a commission but I can't find a blank one

[balmy barn]

reset unity layout try again, thats a bug ive run into a few times (upper right corner)

[rigid hemlock]

Is there anyway to make a blink close the eyes less when an expression is applied? My eyelids are clipping during some expressions

[lucid pawn]

How I install iOS module on unity? Edit:nvm I have to download iSO from unity site.

[rugged steeple]

extremely confused i dont know what i did for it to mess up like this

all of my transitions for these mouth animations are copies that i didnt even make

this is for 2d viseme mouth movements btw

[sudden violet]

change the animations, face expressions are usually done with blendshapes.

If changing the animation's blendshape doesn't cut it, you'd need to change the actual blendshape.

[pseudo fox]

having trouble with this eye glitch in-game. im assigning the eye different materials from an eye pack i downloaded, but its just this ONE eye thats causing problems. all the others eyes work fine. anyone that could help me fix this please?

i should also state that while in unity, the eye works properly. even when using gesture manager, it works. this only happens while in-game.

[rigid hemlock]

alrighty thank you~

[stable citrus]

Edit the animation by changing the blinking/eyes closing blends shapes inside the animation clip

[dire fern]

the tail flips on its side in playmode whenever armature link is applied, any idea on how to fix it? looks completely normal outside of play mode

[somber osprey]

I did, but somehow it ended uop corrupting my project

Unity is telling me that it needs to run Safe mode now because of alot of errors, and when I run normally, my Avi is gone

[modern oak]

hi, im trying to upload some avis by moon jelly and im getting confused, can someone sit in a vc or something with me

basiclly i cant find the sdk

[gaunt knoll]

Just send what you need and someone will tell you your errors

[modern oak]

alright, so i got the avi imported into unity 2022.3.22, the instructions say i need to find and open the vrc sdk but i cant find it anywhere, plus the tut vids im trying to follow have the vrc sdk in the top right of unity but somehow i dont have it there, it only has the inspector tab available

be warned, its my first time uploading an avi

[gaunt knoll]

Can you send screenshot please of your unity

[modern oak]

alright

[teal laurel]

In the toolbar at the top you should see VRChat, when you click it you should be able to open the control panel i think it is called

[gaunt knoll]

Apologies I'm on phone currently

[modern oak]

thank you, i now feel stupid😅

[teal laurel]

No worries, we all started like this hehe

[gaunt knoll]

All good oh what part of Wales are you in @modern oak

[modern oak]

pontypridd, how come

[gaunt knoll]

I'm in Swansea that's all

[modern oak]

oooh nice

do you go to cardiff anime con by any chance

[gaunt knoll]

No first time I'm hearing that there's a anime con in Cardiff

[modern oak]

ah fair enough

you sould go, i try and go every year, theres tons of people in cosplay and just messing around

[remote gate]

anyone else experiencing this issue?

on a different note is there a way to completely disable hand gesture animations?

[modern oak]

it worked, uploaded something successfully😁 😁

[modern oak]

um, im new to all this so i dont know😅

[echo dagger]

if i share screen can someone help teach me how to upload avatars?

[sudden violet]

yea, hand gestures are controlled from your gesture layer, have a look in there.

[gaunt knoll]

Only thing we can do I guide you that's all

[sudden violet]

the Animator Tracking Control component is what dictates if an animation utilizes the animation, or finger tracking.

[gaunt knoll]

There are 100s of videos teaching you how to upload

[echo dagger]

i'm watching videos and still struggling. im also trying to use chatgpt and still struggling

[gaunt knoll]

Like forever you or a toggle

[gaunt knoll]

Stop using ai and give your full attention to the video

[echo dagger]

i did give the video my full attention

they got to a step that i couldnt perform i didnt see the options

[gaunt knoll]

Then try another one

[echo dagger]

if anybody wants to watch me share screen, that would be helpful and i would appreciate it if someone could. if you don't want to, you don't have to, please don't be rude to me about it. I'm new and I don't know what I'm doing.

[gaunt knoll]

https://youtu.be/bSwMz4WcajQ?si=Za7kIA7ZpFBTUz2g

Send screenshots

[left gull]

chatGPT isnt really helpful for avi stuff fyi, it pulls from everything on the internet and a large majoirity of the info out there is old/outdated

there is a support bot in this server but even it struggles with stuff so asking specific questions/showing what you're stuck on is really the only way you'll get help here

[loud ermine]

Do we know for certain whether Ready Player Me avatars already uploaded to VRChat will still function after Jan. 31?

[gaunt knoll]

No clue have to wait and find out

Is there no way of exporting the Avi

[loud ermine]

Sure. RPM provides a gib file that can be uploaded directly to Unity. But I'm not very proficient with Unity and was hoping to avoid that if possible. (And I'd have to do that before Jan. 31, obviously.)

[gaunt knoll]

yeah we are here to help if you need any think you dont understand we cant hand hold you thats all

hope it still works tho

[ornate stump]

Since the avatar files already exist in vrchat services so the avatar should continue to exist. Except if RPM requests vrc to take down all of its avatar which is legally more troublesome than just letting it be.

[loud ermine]

That was my assumption. As well. Ran into some tech friends last night who were quite certain they would disappear, but have no idea what that was based on.

[ornate stump]

Since there is no official statements from vrc yet, we could just assume that they continue to exist.

[clever cloak]

despite having a skinned mesh renderer, and being under and on my avatar in the heiarchy, the shoes are not showing up in play mode. all the others are. strange

peculiar

also, the shoes i use are below the floor. is there a way to dynamically change the height of my avatar based on if im wearing them or not?

where when i have the shoes on, my avatar gains height based off of the shoes added height

[somber sequoia]

Not really, no

[gaunt knoll]

There is no way to dynamically change the high of your Avi

Well not yet

[clever cloak]

space drag it is then

now back to wondering why my shoes dissapear

[calm lodge]

How do i export that because i cant find any tutorials fr 1.0

[lapis aurora]

Anyone know what causes my entire model to move forward and then back when the automatic footsteps do the little shuffle step when i stop moving?

It's worth mentioning I'm using rotation constraints because i have such a weirdly proportioned model

[somber sequoia]

yeah it just does that.

[clever cloak]

weird question, in getting the pants to work with the avatar, i just copied the avatar armature in blender onto the pants and exported them both

however, now it is thinking that it is the main armature

and getting confused

thinking the avatars armature is the one for the pants

also i fixed the shoe not showing up, it was just a read write issue

[lapis aurora]

it's always done this for me, but since i took this new approach the amount it readjusts by is a lot now

i was wondering if there was a way to tone it down at least

[clever cloak]

for the armature, should i go back into blender and delete all the bones except the legs?

then use that version instead

as this is the one im using

[somber sequoia]

I don't know of one

[opal relic]

Why can't I see anything different in the inspector? I am trying to edit this new material.

[somber sequoia]

you cropped it so I can't tell if the inspector is locked or not - upper-right, lock icon

it looks like you clicked on the armature or something though?

[echo halo]

does anyone know how to fix contact receivers taking a few seconds to register? ive made a lot of avatars with contact receivers and they all work normally but this avatar im working on is sort of delayed but its configured in the same way

[opal relic]

ohhh

one other issue

I am missing toon standard AGAIN

[clever cloak]

ok got rid of all the bones that aren't in the legs or the hip and that fixed it

[somber sequoia]

do you maybe have a lot of animation layers? Or the transition that uses the contact has a delay or something? Or the previous state loops slowly?

[opal relic]

My only fix is to copy and paste project folders and start over but I really don't feel like doing that

[somber sequoia]

that seems weird

[opal relic]

it happens any time I make a new project

screw it I am doing it anyway til I can figure out a fix

[echo halo]

no theres only goloco and 4 toggles but they are lower on the list

[somber sequoia]

You have a .vrca file? that's ripped.