avatar-help

[haughty plaza]

I didn't touch them

Never had this issue b4

[night ember]

Then leave it on default instead of empty

[livid vortex]

Does anybody know if I can find the transformers cyber versus McAdams Avatar

[grand scaffold]

#1138520828556890214

[hard turtle]

from like 6k polys for the jacket down to 2.9k and it looks better!

[eternal glacier]

can someone help me to change the texture of my skin?

[ornate stump]

You can ask a specific question for that.

[lavish cosmos]

if you want to completely replace the texture image, click the body object, expand the material in the Inspector panel, and drag-and-drop your new texture into the existing texture slot

[somber wedge]

Does anyone know how to add effects to an expression?

[eternal glacier]

i have an extra pack for that but idk how to do it

[ornate stump]

The question is too vague. Try to explain more.

[ornate stump]

What is an "extra pack"?

[eternal glacier]

retexture for human look

[lavish cosmos]

what's in it? png files? mat files? is it specifically made for your avatar base?

[ornate stump]

Texture is an image file, you have to import the image into unity, then find out what material is for your avatar body, and change the texture for your other texture.

[eternal glacier]

i have an unity pack here and some psd files

[ornate stump]

Import into unity.

[eternal glacier]

into my avi?

[ornate stump]

Unity.

[eternal glacier]

done

[ornate stump]

You have to put the file into unity first before you can put it on your avatar.

[eternal glacier]

its now in the assets thingy

[ornate stump]

then find out what material is for your avatar body, and change the texture for your other texture.

[eternal glacier]

these?

[ornate stump]

Those are texture files.

[eternal glacier]

i dont understand ts

[ornate stump]

For material, you have to select the avatar body from the scene, until you see Skinned mesh renderer component, and you will see material under it.

[eternal glacier]

which one?

[eternal glacier]

?

[ornate stump]

Look for it yourself since it's different on every avatar. See the material settings right below. If it's using Poiyomi shader, then you have to click Unlock button first.

[haughty plaza]

What I mean is that it should just be on default if I never messed with em, if it's really a hassle I can just make my own expression menus and params anyways

[burnt light]

anyone know what this error in particular means? I own the model im trying to upload

[junior void]

It's a symptom that's useless. There will be red errors at the very top

[somber sequoia]

Always look at the first 2-3 errors for the root cause. Those after are likely side-effect errors caused by the first.

[hard turtle]

13k polys for my outift

[frigid remnant]

So i found this avatar but it doesn't have goloco and it's public so I dont think I can reupload it. Could anyone please help me find a similar one or could someone make me an avatar just like this with goloco?

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

Or if you want to commission someone to make it, head to the VRC Traders discord, you'll just find scammers around here.
Link is in #1204490664637890580

[tough marsh]

.....its not her bones or weight painting. i've literally re-rigged it and everything and no matter what i do every time i import it into unity her legs do this

[ember viper]

is there an easy way to achieve lip syncing for a model.. the model im using is proving difficult to actually move around when it comes to the mouth,

[ember viper]

oh my word 😭

[tough marsh]

i genuinely have never experienced this issue before and every avi creator i've consulted has no idea wtf ive done bru

[somber sequoia]

redo the rig setup?

[tough marsh]

blendshapes :3 if u have the cats blender plugin it makes it a lot easier

[ember viper]

i'll look into it

i'm like

[tough marsh]

i've tried that and the same issue ocurred

[ember viper]

really considering just not having it cause of how difficult it seems to be

[somber sequoia]

you set it to generic and applied, then back to humanoid?

[tough marsh]

just tried it and that didn't do anything

[somber sequoia]

Also check the bone roll values for all humanoid bones - it ought to be 0.

(fingers/toes excluded)

[tough marsh]

hold up let me send a picture of her rig

[somber sequoia]

#avatar-rigging

[tough marsh]

ooohh...

nevermidn then lmao

[ember viper]

lowkey think the mangled mess is a look 💅

[tough marsh]

is there an easy way to check bone roll values?

[somber sequoia]

oh it's a look alright

[somber sequoia]

Yes, you can view them in the "item" box of the right-side popup sidebar in Blender, while in armature edit mode

[ember viper]

if someone showed that picture to me without context i'd think it was a bow legged grasshopper

😭

[tough marsh]

crine

[tough marsh]

yeah so literally every bone is around 80-90 degrees

[ember viper]

sounds like the issue

another Kazin W

[tough marsh]

TYSM Kazin!! that was my problem, re-imported it and her legs are fine now!

[ember viper]

🍾 🎉

[somber sequoia]

excellent!

[opal relic]

How do I export a Unity package for someone? I see there is an "export package" option. Do I just leave everything necessary checked? Just wanna make double sure I do this right.

[ornate stump]

If you send to just your friend, it's easier to just leave everything checked.

[somber sequoia]

...

[ornate stump]

Ask in #1138520828556890214

[opal relic]

. . .

[ornate stump]

That question is irrelevant to everything.

[opal relic]

seriously?

[ornate stump]

It wasn't even a minute you took to look.

[opal relic]

Prismics.

[ornate stump]

If you can't find existing post, then create a new post in #1138520828556890214

[somber sequoia]

big blue button which says "new post"?

[ornate stump]

Then wait for people who know to answer.

Same, ask in #1138520828556890214

Be petience. It wasn't even an hour after you asked.

[ember viper]

😭

this dude has to be like 11 man

wtff

[lyric zenith]

can anyone make me an avatar based of of a picture

[lilac musk]

Go to VRCTraders discord in #1204490664637890580, and look into getting a commissions there. You'll only get scammers here.

[fast fern]

I have a model problem here, after building and exporting i notice that the avi doesn't properly sidestep even when it's nearer to the ground. Any reasons as to why? (example on right for what i mean)

[hard turtle]

old vs new

[digital cairn]

This is a super specific question but, to anyone who uses the SyncDances prefab for both PC and Quest, does anyone else have trouble putting the Quest version on avis because it makes the avatar size go over the limit? I'm asking because I've had trouble with it multiple times. I swear I've tried to put it on avatars that had only a small number of toggles and Gogo loco, but it just keeps saying its over the Quest limit.

[balmy barn]

animations can make it go over limits pretty fast, check their sizes

[digital cairn]

Oh yeah, true

Maybe I'll remove the animations that I don't really use from the Quest version

[wooden zinc]

question , im making a division 2 avatar with animals that have been hunted like red dead 2 ? theres no blood or gore but they do flop arround a little with physbones? if i put the extreme horror and other tags on will i get banned still? cause i only just found ou tthats a bannable offence i think?

[digital cairn]

Damn so the tags are just there to bait you into getting banned? That's fucked up bro 😭

[wooden zinc]

idk cause ive seen avatars with correct tags get banned

[digital cairn]

Well from what I've seen (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong-) the only way for an avatar to get banned is if Vrchat themselves become aware of it via people reporting it and such. Is this gonna be a private upload or public?

[wooden zinc]

public? idk its going to be a private for a bit due to errors but ive been asked from like amost 20 people for a division avatar so

and alot of people including myself wanted ''hunted animals''

like i said theres no blood or gore on it

like animals that are attached to the bag and a holster

you can toggle it off and on

so its not like stuck there

[ruby nexus]

Is there a way to stop an avatar's body from moving around when looking down? (or moving around in general)
Whenever I wanna lay down in VR, I can never get my avatar to line up with my body because the avatar's body sinks down when I look down, and I'm pretty sure that's the cause

I've used things like Standable before, which kinda does what I'm asking for, but I'd rather stick to locomotion

[foggy wadi]

Can't you just use the GoGoLoCo lock if you're half body ?

[round comet]

That’s what I was gonna say

[ruby nexus]

that locks the feet, but the body still goes down

[round comet]

Oh, weird. Usually locks the body for me when I’m laying

[hard turtle]

Ok so im new to vrcfury im making a full controller for a set of clothing i wish to upload for my avatar base to jinxxy, its all working nice n dandy until i use my blendshape toggles to increase stuff like leg size thigh size arm size hand size etc

im using the same paramater in both the paramater list thats getting merged onto the main,

why isnt it seemingly using the same paramater???

ive never used vrcfury before </3

[ruby nexus]

unless you're referring to this, then that just locks everything but the arms, which is not what I'm looking for

[hard turtle]

its the same right?

so why isnt it working off the same radial puppet?

[somber sequoia]

there's a "global" option you have to toggle... somewhere. I rarely use fury so I forget where. In the full controller component probably

[hard turtle]

TY MAN

<3

[cobalt cloak]

I have a question: I only have a Tail.001 (red) in the base model, but no Tail.Root. How can I turn it into a Tail.Root or switch to the new Tail.Root (yellow) from the new tail without breaking anything so that I can attach the tail (Tail.001 sticks out of the model)

[foggy wadi]

Not that, there should be an actual lock icon

[ruby nexus]

the lock icon only locks feet

body and legs can still move around

[somber sequoia]

I'd probably just position the head of the new tail at the head of the old tail root and delete the old tail root bone.

probably rename it in case the body mesh has weight paint matching that bone name.

[olive pelican]

Just make a new bone, call it Tail.Root, move it where you want it, and reparent the tail.01 bone. Make sure to parent the Tail Root to the hip as well.

[somber sequoia]

not sure why you'd need another bone if you have that one though

[olive pelican]

Ye. I'm guessing they're maybe trying to move the tail mesh?

[somber sequoia]

yeah no idea without seeing mesh

[olive pelican]

If so, gotta repose the model using pose mode with the ecxisting tail root.

[cobalt cloak]

the tail.1 is the one sticking out so i just rename the tail.route frome the new one to tail.001

[olive pelican]

Oh. Just go into pose mode, move it, then apply the pose.

[gaunt schooner]

I’ve been actually so stuck on this for days

[olive pelican]

Either use CATS (ew ew gross) or manually apply the pose (🅱️ased)

[olive pelican]

Doth thou have thine animcontroller in a shot of screens?

[gaunt schooner]

Not atm!

[olive pelican]

In order of likelihood, Menu settings are wrong, animation controller is wrong/doing a silly, you have some other animation effecting the animation paramater.

[gaunt schooner]

I do have a parasol toggle itself, it comes with a premade animation, and I made toggles like night and day a separate thing

[cobalt cloak]

and the the tail rute from the new tail ill rename to tail 2 and the following 3, 4, 5, 6, etc.

[olive pelican]

You don't really even need the new root bone, just move the old tail root to the new tail root location.

in POSE mode.

Not EDIT mode

[cobalt cloak]

i dont have a tail root on the body

[olive pelican]

You do, technically

[somber sequoia]

er? why would you move this in pose mode?

[olive pelican]

Pose mode > apply pose, moves mesh and resets everything

[somber sequoia]

oh you're trying to move the mesh too, I see

[olive pelican]

Ye, peep the screenshot. Tail is off in lala land.

[somber sequoia]

yeah I wouldn't do it this way so didn't consider this method 🙂

[cobalt cloak]

you neam tail one is tail root and i muve the new tail up so it is laind up wiht the tail 1 from the body

[olive pelican]

No, you really don't. You can just gra Tail.01 in POSE mode, move it wherever you want, and then appl the Pose.

*apply

Also it is intensely difficult to understand you.

[cobalt cloak]

but the bones from the tail and the body are not connected

[cobalt cloak]

sry for the bad english

[olive pelican]

Oh, right. Just Parent the Tail.01 to the Hip bone.

Edit mode, select Tail.01, hold shift, select Hip, Ctrl+P, Keep Offset

[cobalt cloak]

Can I delete the cook and simply connect the new tail.root?

[olive pelican]

No, because that would un-rig the base of the tail.

Delete the Red, it's vestigal.

[cobalt cloak]

oke

[olive pelican]

After you Parent Tail.01 (yellow) to your Hip, you can go into Pose mode and move the tail to where you want it.

[cobalt cloak]

oke thx

[olive pelican]

Assuming the tail is rigged correctly, it will all move together.

[cobalt cloak]

I'll give it a try.

and I can delete the old tail.root

[still thunder]

Having a bad audio bug where my sound effect is not only playing where it should be in 3D space, but playing at full volume in the right channel, its not that noticeable on desktop, but extremely noticeable while in vr, and cannot be ignored

[pallid drift]

i use the video player component to add this video to the avatar but i cant build the thingy without removing the videoplayer, is there any other way i could add the video without it?

[somber sequoia]

You can't use a video player on an avatar. You could do a flipbook, that's about it

[pallid drift]

is a flipbook quest compatible?

[somber sequoia]

Or with the right shader setup you could display a properly-configured world video player on a plane on your avatar

if you're talking quest you're likely to rapidly hit the file size limits

Also I'm not sure what the toon shader can do

[obsidian valley]

kazin , la null rat curious how to do flipbook

[somber sequoia]

depends on your shader, I imagine.

for example: https://www.poiyomi.com/special-fx/flipbook

[obsidian valley]

yeah im not really into avi creating but i send him uhh tutorial

[errant comet]

There is even a prefab for it that someone made with position and size toggles. Having an embedded video on the avatar is something that no one wants to really see.

[cobalt cloak]

Question: I have now attached the new tail to the body, but in Unty only the bones of the tail move, not the tail itself, which is stiff. What could be the reason for this?

[shut bough]

booth avi help!~
how to hide the leg strings?
this asset didn't include actual instructions but did include a texture file that looks like a mask or something for the legs but is unnamed, so idk where it goes. Any idea or booth avi veterans that know how to make them disappear?

[olive pelican]

It is named, just in MOONRUNES. You must travel to Ancient and Mystical TIBET and seek the MONKS. (Seriously though, look for the appropriate material, find the strings in the texture file or UV for that mesh, and then dead reckon which mask it is)

[shut bough]

lmao; funnily enough, translated, the file is literally named "unnamed" so the moonrunes hold no secrets here.
that's what I'm doing; going from field to field just nothing has worked yet.

[olive pelican]

The only way that could have been funnier is if it was a random keysmash, NGL.

[lavish cosmos]

Find the body material, look for a texture slot named mask or alpha mask under main color. And drag and drop it there. You may have to change the material to cutout or transparent to see it

[clever zinc]

Dose anyone know if I can enable this in a animation?

[heavy zephyr]

You should be able to

[cinder mortar]

How do I change my sdk? I tried to build and it seems to be telling me to update to a newer sdk

[minor crater]

if i buy a booth hair thats rigged for other models and put it on an avatar that isnt that model will it work

i dont mind some clipping since its an updo

[cinder mortar]

or i guess how do I check

[minor crater]

are you using the creator companion

[cinder mortar]

yeah

[minor crater]

go to projects and then manage project next to the one you are working on and it should show all the plug ins. the sdk's will have the version next to them and likely green arrows that you can just click to update

[cinder mortar]

oh thats way easier than I expected, thanks

[minor crater]

qwll lmk if it works tho if it helps

[cinder mortar]

it worked! lol

[dense vine]

When I use an int param can I set than one int to any number in the 32 bit limit or does vrchat limit it

Nvm vrchat compressed it down To 8 bit 😔

[heavy zephyr]

It's only up to

[dense vine]

Still a bunch tho thanks gang

[heavy zephyr]

Note that locally you can use the full range. It's limited in terms of what values can be synced over the network

[dense vine]

Does the vrc emote parameter come with avatars?

Like is a requirement for avatars to have or is it just a vrc gogo loco thing

[heavy zephyr]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/#built-in-parameters

[heavy zephyr]

No parameters are required, some are just built-in and can be used as provided

[somber locust]

So i need some help with uploading a avatar i keep having it fail when i try and upload it even tho i have everything i need i get this so any help would be great

[heavy zephyr]

Look at the errors in the console, look for a red one that isn't generic

[dense vine]

Shart, I wish creators would optimize their parameter bits it's cooking my prefabs 😭

[heavy zephyr]

Some use VRCEmote as part of gogoloco

[dense vine]

How many creators do?

I need to know if I'm likely to conflict with other prefabs other than gogo

[heavy zephyr]

Gogoloco is the main one and by far the most popular. I would highly recommend using your own parameter.

[dense vine]

Is there a work around to not use 8 bits but still syncing it

[heavy zephyr]

You can always use more parameters or encode what you want locally and decode it remotely.

You can use stuff like AAPs for floats and blendtrees to smooth values or do math

[dense vine]

Could you explain this a bit more

[heavy zephyr]

That would require a lot of explaining, I would suggest you look at this site : https://vrc.school

[dense vine]

Thanks!

[opal relic]

Heyo, I'd like to add a trail to a saber prop (like from Beat Saber). Not sure where to start as I have never messed with trails or particles ever. Does anyone have any guidance on that?

[heavy zephyr]

One way to do it would be to have your particle system attached to the blade, emit a particle at the center of the blade with 0 speed but a decent lifetime.

Then just enable the trail module and use a curve/gradient to configure the width of the trail, set its color, how long it is, etc...

[opal relic]

Also, what happened to the toon standard shader? This is a freshly new project.

[heavy zephyr]

You don't need to render the initial particle, just the trail one.

[heavy zephyr]

Odd, it should be there

[opal relic]

Not the first time this has happened. sigh

I'll just make a new one. I'll figure out particles when I get to it. Thank you!

Hm- Toon Standard still isn't in the list.

I'll just copy/paste a project folder.

[bitter mural]

Anyone know where I can get this exact avatar? I don't plan on buying any avatars

[torpid oriole]

How do I fix where it doesnt do this? the lashes overlapping makes the other disapppear

[polar geyser]

I have a huge discrepancy between reported texture memory usage in Unity and VRChat In-Game.
I have a lot of stuff admittedly on this model but i made sure to limit all textures down to 1024 - SDK shows total as 117MB- In game its around 400MB. Anyone know what causes this? used addons in my Project: vrcsdk base/avatar 3.10.1 , gesture manager, vrcfury, lightbox viewer. Materials are all Poi 9.2. I have rebuilt all materials, multiple reuploads and all the usual stuff.

if anyone can give me a pointer why my textures seemlingly blow up/become uncompressed in game i'd be very grateful.
Otherwise i gues im just gonna rebuild a fresh project.

[lavish cosmos]

I recommend using Thry's Tool to correctly view texture sizes in your avatar

[polar geyser]

^ great tool, detailed breakdown with size for all the textures. Thank you!

textures probaply coming from the base avatars layers are showing up

8k

who wouldve guessed

[bitter mural]

Any help with my issue?

[gaunt schooner]

i swear i saw this on tiktok, i would go to their link tree because some avi creators have a discord for avi drops+questions

almost all avis cost money but idk about this 1!

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

[gaunt schooner]

speaking offf...can anyone drop into a call with me to figure this out? its been like this for a week

[night ember]

show the actual toggle in unity

[bitter mural]

Thx

[bitter mural]

I already posted it last night nobody helped me

[bitter mural]

If you find it can you post it in chat?

[gaunt schooner]

Who me

[night ember]

theres literally no one else?

[somber sequoia]

that may be, and I sympathize, but bringing your problem here, where it's entirely off-topic, is kinda rude.

[gaunt schooner]

How do I show the actual toggle in unity 🤤

[night ember]

screenshot?

[gaunt schooner]

The toggle is in the video :o

What I’m saying is I don’t understand what you’re asking

[night ember]

you showed gesture manager but not the actual toggle in the menu'

[night ember]

you got something controlling the parameter?

other than the rotation

[gaunt schooner]

this is the parasol menu itself

these are my main parameters

[limber bison]

I'm trying to make it so whenever my character talks their eyes light up, but I can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

[delicate tide]

So I'm trying to add this halloween cape and teeth thing to my model, but the cape is moving around too much when I move, not staying attached to the shoulders. If I put the cape on another part of the armature, it doesnt turn when I look around, but its still detached from my neck, and also the teeth become visible in my field of vision

[somber sequoia]

neither can we unless you explain what you've done so far.

[bitter mural]

I ain't tryna be rude

[somber sequoia]

then use the appropriate channel

[heavy zephyr]

The physbone you have on it is affecting the attached point as well. Try putting it on the second object in the chain

[delicate tide]

Spine?

[bitter mural]

I did last night I'm not sure what happened to the post though and posts are kinda hard to use

[heavy zephyr]

I'm talking about the physbone on your cape

And the cape itself should probably be attached to your neck at most

[delicate tide]

Here's what the prefab looks like

[heavy zephyr]

There's probably a physbone component on it. Also looks like it's meant to be attached to the chest or spine

[delicate tide]

Plane 1 is the teeth, plane 2 is the cape
The physbone is on plane2

So put the physbone on the actual spine bone now?

Or on the entire prefab?

[limber bison]

nvm I figured it out

[somber sequoia]

great!

[delicate tide]

This is what happens when I put the cape onto anything that isn't the head. The teeth are supposed to move when the head moves but the cape isn't. Also the teeth are now visible in my fov. Do I need to uncouple the whole thing and put the teeth on the head and the cape on the neck?

[somber sequoia]

what do teeth have to do with the cape?

[frigid void]

any tips to fix this? I’ve already lowered all the texture resolutions but that didn’t seem to do anything

[somber sequoia]

check discussion in #quest-optimization

[lime summit]

ok so ive restarted my computer and ive stared my project and logged in and everything for when im trying to upload it and it says i need to fill out again and i cant

[sick perch]

I had the same problem as you, bro

My avatar couldn't be uploaded at that time

They said, set the computer name to English. All right, it's settled.

[lime summit]

as in? where and thanks

[sick perch]

I don't know if your windows is Chinese

[lime summit]

its English

[sick perch]

Then I don't know what went wrong. I'm sorry.

[delicate tide]

They're the fangs that are part of the extra halloween cosmetics for the costume

Idk my friend was able to get it to work but he's gatekeeping the info from me

[lime summit]

its aight

[olive pelican]

Your rig is fucked, open it in blender and make sure any bones for anything in the head are the child of the head. If that still causes problems use the Headchop component in unity.

[dark jay]

anyone know how to animate/get spritesheet textures to work on eyes for a model

[olive pelican]

Need a flip book shader

[night ember]

not really

[olive pelican]

Poiyomi, special effects, flip book

[night ember]

just changing the uv scale setting and then animate the panning

[olive pelican]

I mean, that also

But flip book is less bother.

Or well, no, it's not, but it is.

[night ember]

you really only use poiyomi flipbook if you have a gif

[olive pelican]

It's something wrong with your VRCAvatar component. Are you updated past 3.10?

Use VCC, manage project, check what version your VRC base and avatar are

[olive pelican]

Also, shitty friend NGL.

[lime summit]

yea was 3.10.1

[olive pelican]

Any errors in the console?

Stuff like "🛑 Error; I am actively dying because you added like 13 lights to this model, I know what you're going to do and I'm telling on you."

[lime summit]

uh

ill check once i have to update it

nothing like that

just on how to optimize it

[olive pelican]

In the console?

[lime summit]

no

this is all i have

[olive pelican]

Ah. Yeah that's a hint.

There's something up imeith your login credentials or the panel coding. Did you maybe delete something or edit something you weren't supposed to?

[lime summit]

no my computer must've deleted something

coz i did factory restarted my computer to do a full flush since shi was being funny then now its not so uh yea my computer must've deleted it

[dark jay]

I would have to figure out how to do it like visualize that

[balmy barn]

theres the values for a 4x4 tilesheet, 0.25 x 4 = 1 , so just shift offset 0.25

rare i use poi flipbook anymore, since i can edit a tilesheet much easier and this works for a quest shader

[floral sparrow]

Hey, so I have a friend who's helped me with a Vroid model. For some reason, When just playing normal vr, it works perfectly fine, but the moment I start using FBT, the viewpoint suddenly gets messed up and I can see my own neck from inside the model. Has anyone seen something like this/have any idea how to help with it

[thick oyster]

Is anyone else having issues where it just.. doesn't let you upload and gives you.. no reason? lol

nothing related to size, or too many components.

[ornate stump]

#avatar-help message

[thick oyster]

Thank you, it's likely my internet in that case.

[hot grotto]

I'm having trouble uploading an avatar. It's saying "failed to upload" when it's perfectly ready for upload. But when I remove the parameter menu it uploads fine? I tested this with another avatar with the same sync byte count and it upload fine somehow. How can I fix this????

These are the only two errors I got btw

[junior void]

What's your sdk version

[hot grotto]

Latest.

Not an SDK issue from what I checked.

[cyan light]

hi people, when i try putting a decal onto a avi using poiomi my game crashes. i press the checkmark on poimi and the unity client crashes

legitametly, i click the checkmark. unity freezes. then it crashes

[hushed goblet]

Hello everyone am Here to Help and make a friends

[hard turtle]

what causes an object to dissapear when you get close to them in unity?

i cant remember

TwT

im using armature links n shit to try make my assets drag and drops using vrc fury

[cyan light]

you are too close

[arctic ginkgo]

not really from getting "too close", but if your bounding box is messed up then it can sometimes disappear when it's not supposed to

[hard turtle]

ah yes

boundign boxxes

ty

another thing

still new to vrc fury

trying to make my transforming spear i made in blender AGES ago a drag drop asset

it WAS

working

now it wont toggle on

the animations say their working

the transitions are all correc

[cyan light]

can someone help please, i'm trying to get the pathing to work but it changes the color of what i set when i go into gesture manageer

well thats odd. using an in game test, it works fine. i guess guesture manager is just bugging the fuck out

[hard turtle]

Can you not animate vrchat constraints?

or is there a vrcfury constraint i can use??? im trying to make my assets automatically apply themselfs

xD

[balmy barn]

pretty sure you can animate them, dont remember if i got one that ever do anything but turning it off/on tho / or move stuff to other places

[hard turtle]

ok so got around it but now, my animations are just stopping instead of returning to the previous idle state???

im trying to make the spear spin

animations arent finishing themselfs

[olive pelican]

You can animate constraints, yes. Some properties are not animatable, IIRC, but most properties are.

VRCFury questions should be posted in the VRCFury discord.

[hearty gazelle]

Does anyone know how to add clothes to your avatar cause I wanna add some clothes to my avatar but idk how to make need help with this pls help

Just need to know how to add clothes or outfits on my avatar

[olive pelican]

Sure, go into blender, model some clothes, rig and texture them, and reimport the model.

[hearty gazelle]

Ah ok it might be better if you can show screenshots so I can have a better understanding on how to do it

[olive pelican]

I was -mostly- joking.

[gaunt knoll]

There are lots of videos how to put clothes of avis

[olive pelican]

Unless the body is built off of a common body base, you'll have to find clothes and edit the model in blender to make them fit.

Ye, the keywords you're looking for are "VRChat Blender Avatar Clothing"

[hearty gazelle]

Ah ok

[hearty gazelle]

Like a tool or for a tutorial on yt

[hearty gazelle]

Could you send some cause I have absolutely no idea what I’m doing

[gaunt knoll]

https://youtu.be/fV2Dr5F445w?si=yq5SSMnIWJ_22mS8

This is the one I used to learn it

[olive pelican]

Blender is fairly easy. I was able to work out a decent chunk of it in about a month. there's youtube tutorials for basically everything, and while making clothes is sometimes hard, it's not horrible.

[somber sequoia]

but accurate!

[olive pelican]

The best jokes are truths told in a mischevious way.

[hearty gazelle]

Wait so there’s a tutorial on how to make clothes on blender for vr chat

[olive pelican]

There's probably a few hundred of those, yes.

Of varying levels fo quality.

What kind of clothes do you want on this model?

Cause that will determine how hard the model is to make.

[hearty gazelle]

Probably like a school uniform or a hoodie

[olive pelican]

Hoodies are easy. Skirts are easy to model but rigging them well has always been annoying for me.

Well and perfomantly, rather.

[somber sequoia]

ugh, yeah rigging skirts is annoying

[olive pelican]

I'm sure there's a trick to doing it reliably.

Maybe after I'm done with the Psycho Warrior model I'll learn skirts.

[somber sequoia]

there are tricks, some work okay

[olive pelican]

The theoretically ideal way would be to have VRC allow us to have a control mesh

Then just use cloth and 2 colliders, max 50 verts.

[somber sequoia]

or just to give us Magica Cloth 🙂

[olive pelican]

Yeah but control meshes would be beastly for tons of stuff.

NEver gonna happen tho

Magica is more likely.

[somber sequoia]

and still pretty unlikely, they'd have to figure out how to make it work with physbones

[olive pelican]

yuh

[somber sequoia]

when it works it's pretty fantastic though

[old marsh]

does anyone know how to fix this? ive had this problem for a few days but found no help online, the avatar is from booth

[olive pelican]

It's fine.

Literally the warning is just a heads up.

"Hey, if you don't know why something is broken it's probably this. If it works, don't worry about it."

[old marsh]

it wont let me upload the avatar to vrc though, theres nothing else telling me whats wrong, just the performance

[olive pelican]

Check your console.

[old marsh]

alright hold on

[olive pelican]

Also you have 11 other alerts.

[old marsh]

theyre the only alerts that arent preventing me from uploading my avatar

[olive pelican]

Reset the blueprint.

Booth uploader forgot to

[old marsh]

how do i do that? sorry

[olive pelican]

Avatar component, there will be a blueprint ID, reset that

If that doesn't work, double check that you have Avatar and Base components 3.10 or higher.

They changed how blueprint IDs work, recently, so you need to update to 3.10 or higher.

My wife had that issue a week back.

[somber sequoia]

That one gives you a pretty clear error though

[olive pelican]

My memory of the ezxact error is vague and blurry, I was drunk when I fixed it last time.

[somber sequoia]

hah

[gaunt knoll]

Most of the time I'm drunk when doing unity and blender best way for it

I wake up and I'm like awwww you shouldn't have

[olive pelican]

I document my changes better when I'm drunk, which annoys sober me deeply.

[fast fern]

Can anyone help with this?

[hearty gazelle]

Does anyone know how to fix this

Just wondering

[olive pelican]

Humanoid bone config is wrong. Configure it correctly.

[somber sequoia]

yeah wrong bones in the slots, click "Configure" and review what's there

[hearty gazelle]

Ah ok so I see what I’m missing it’s the upper chest

But I don’t have a bone or child bone for the upper chest

But I have one for the chest

[somber sequoia]

you can skip upper chest

[hearty gazelle]

Oh ok

[somber sequoia]

it's optional for vrchat

[hearty gazelle]

I also set jaw to none but I clicked on chest and set it to the chest bone

[somber sequoia]

good

[hearty gazelle]

But um it still won’t let me config it tho

[hearty gazelle]

So um idk what I do

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what you're trying to do?

[hearty gazelle]

So I went and double check the avatar in avatar but I’m not sure if this will cause problems

Cause it says character not in t pose

[somber sequoia]

below the bone list, there is a little "pose" dropdown with an enforce t-pose option

[hearty gazelle]

Ok did so so it’s not fixing anything it seems like I add the chest to chest I have upper chest and jaw set to none

Idk what it means by tie bone was found instead of chest

[somber sequoia]

you'd have to show the error message

oh the one you showed before - it means Unity guessed which bone goes where, and got it wrong. If you've fixed it, that message should go away.

TieBone is likely the name of a bone in your armature

[daring lark]

Does anyone know what causes the head to just hunch over like this?

In an older update, the avatar's legs would be behind until I overrid my idle

Now the head just hunches over.

It doesn't do this in gesture manager at all, only when ran in vrchat.

[balmy barn]

hows the spine looking, probably need to straighten it

[daring lark]

It's completely straight in unity

[hearty gazelle]

Ah ok I think i see the problem after loading it in blender but have absolutely no idea how to fix wtv you wanna call this mess

[somber sequoia]

not sure what mess you're referring to?

[hearty gazelle]

I mean for the armature

[somber sequoia]

what about it though?

[hearty gazelle]

It’s a mess that might be why and it looks like some bones aren’t really connected

[somber sequoia]

bones don't have to be connected

[daring lark]

I am noticing that the green seems to cover where the hair front bones are, but I don't know how to remove this or if this is even a cause

[hearty gazelle]

Oh ok

Well cause this is what the armature looks like

[night ember]

the only thing that actually matters is if you have a humanoid rig

[somber sequoia]

the humanoid bones look fine here. A few others point in odd ways but they could be for accessories or something, no idea from here.

all that matters for this part is as Diven said, the humanoid bones

[hearty gazelle]

Ah ok

[daring lark]

So does anyone know could be causing this?

[hearty gazelle]

So then idk why the rig isn’t registering for it then

[night ember]

show the actual hierarchy

[somber sequoia]

Did you save after you put the right bones in the right places? feel free to show us that list, and yeah, the bone hierarchy would help.

hips down to head, you can leave the legs and arms collapsed, just showing shoulder bones

[balmy barn]

prefer to see spine in blender, unity is 'eh' , but you want some slack on the neck and might be viewpoint too far out/in , been awhile since ive seen the hunchback on a avatar

[hearty gazelle]

I think I figured it out

Cause it worked and converted to humanoid

After I exported the blender one I edited a bit

[hearty gazelle]

And now I ran into a new problem but have no idea how to fix this

Cause I’m uploading this to pc first then quest

[somber sequoia]

I recommend taking a look at the console for more details.

Also it says there are 4 alerts but none are shown, you'll want to look at those too

also you didn't name the avatar?

[harsh hedge]

anyway to fix this ?

my left leg pants clip on my right one

[somber sequoia]

better weight painting

[fading flax]

Does anyone know why when I click “Upload,” the interface turns gray and nothing happens?
I’ve already checked the SDK version and rebuilt multiple project files, but every time I click upload, the SDK just gets stuck.

[daring lark]

Does anyone know what's causing either my legs to be behind, or my head forward? I tried moving the view position back and forward and it made no difference.

The spine is completely straight in both unity and blender, so the cause of it leaning forward is an absolute mystery

[olive pelican]

Viewpoint, maybe. Set it higher or lower, also expeirment with HIP/Head lock IK.

[daring lark]

Where is the hip/head lock for this?

Also it only has this issue in game, gesture manager or regular play in unity doesn't cause it to lean forward

[olive pelican]

in VRC, use the search in settings for "Lock"

Oh then yeah probably viewpoint, since that links to your hmd

[olive pelican]

Ugh, the menu system for VRC is so ass. I'm not at my desk so I can't search it and specify, it might be only in the small settings menu?

[daring lark]

Changed viewpoint to be 0 on the z axis, still no difference.

[olive pelican]

oh uh, maybe your humanoid has a weird tpose?

I have to override that stuff all the time.

[daring lark]

T pose is normal

Surely there has to be a cause for this

[olive pelican]

Hm. Weird.

[daring lark]

Only does it in game

Gesture manager doesn't have the tilt

[night ember]

Is your avatar's root even at 0

[daring lark]

The hip? As far as I’m aware yes. The lean doesn’t even occur using gesture manager or previewing in unity. Only in vrchat.

[night ember]

the actual root of the fbx itself

of course its not going to happen in unity

you dont have tracking or ik when previewing in unity

[glass geyser]

I was busy at the time but I can't find it so I'll dm you

[hard turtle]

is there a way to make a particle system that can interact with contacts? like lets say i wanna make grass that dissapears when the end of my sword touches it

[night ember]

particles no

youd need an actual collider not a contact

[arctic ginkgo]

Yes what diven said, you need to add a collider to your sword that will kill the particles (you can turn on collision in particle settings and change the behavior to kill the particles)

This will only work on PC though since you cannot add colliders to quest avatars

[night ember]

incorrect

stations exist on quest

[spare dome]

Hopeful i wont get ignored this time but can someone help me with this

[somber sequoia]

show the first 2-3 errors.

[spare dome]

i did its this

[somber sequoia]

there is nothing at all above that?

[spare dome]

nope

[somber sequoia]

well nothing there is of much use, sorry

[spare dome]

can anyone else help been trying to get this avi to work for three days

[somber sequoia]

can you screenshot the console again but don't crop so much, so we can see the error counts in the upper right?

[somber sequoia]

7 errors but I only see 6. Perhaps clear and try again. Or see if there are any errors listed in teh build stats area of the build console

(the window where you click "build and publish")

[somber sequoia]

yep, no idea what any of that might be referring to

[deep siren]

is there a fix for when heels are under the floor without blender intervention?

[stable scarab]

My avatar was working fine, and now it's doing this ingame. It doesn't do it in the Avi Emulator. Does anyone know what's wrong?

Nvm fixed it!

[vernal adder]

I'm trying to replace and audio clip for an asset I bought and it's longer than the default one and it's getting cut off early, what do I need to change to get it to play the full length?

[somber sequoia]

Maybe extend the animation, if it turns the player off after the sound.

[vernal adder]

good start, will try

[vernal adder]

don't really have a way to tell which animation or part of the FX controls the sound in question, of the things I tried they don't change anything

[somber sequoia]

process of elimination - turn off all layers, turn on each one until you find it

(in play mode with an emulator, etc.)

[vernal adder]

oop, found it. my bad but thanks lol

[somber sequoia]

nice

[covert fox]

can someone explain to me like how in horror avatars if you do something (like with your hand or stuff like that) u can jumpscare people with SOUNDEFFECTS? like wth

[somber sequoia]

contact receiver on your hand that triggers when contacting another user's sender, like their head

[spare dome]

anyone else can help me ?

[somber sequoia]

there's not enough information in these errors for anyone here to help, maybe there are other clues? Like the build stats? Restart Unity maybe?

[covert fox]

crazy

what if i'm not close enough to touch them how can the jumpscare work?

like in other ways

[somber sequoia]

bigger contact receiver?

[spare dome]

ive tried it into two differnt projects the only thing that was showing in the build and punlish was a gestuer mask which i fixed i cant give anything else because there is nothing else

[somber sequoia]

throwable object?

[arctic ginkgo]

what exactly do you want to do to trigger the jumpscare?

do you mean like using gestures? For example, do a thumbs up and a jumpscare happens

[somber sequoia]

menu toggle?

[arctic ginkgo]

-# lunarix is typing

[covert fox]

ts so hard

wait i mean like yk the youtubers lolathon or cyberchimp i watched it from them idk what they do but i don't think it's a menu toggle it is more of a gesture (OR SO I THINK)

i don't even know if i'm just yappin but yeah

[somber sequoia]

if you can explain what you want, we might be able to help

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah, if you can explain how you want it to function we can help with the technical details and getting it to work

[covert fox]

sorry guys i'll try

[arctic ginkgo]

it seems like what you're asking for are jumpscare animations + sound effects that play whenever you make a certain gesture. As for triggering something with a gesture, it's pretty simple. There's a parameter for each hand (GestureLeft and GestureRight) which give a number 0-7 based on what gesture you're making. You can just assign each jumpscare to the right number.

There's a lookup table for what gesture corresponds to what number in the creator docs: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/#gestureleft-and-gestureright-values

[covert fox]

so basically i want a way to trigger a jumpscare with sounds without having to use a menu toggle ye that

[somber sequoia]

right so what do you want the trigger to be?

[arctic ginkgo]

for the jumpscares themselves you may be able to find prefabs or pre-existing free sound effects, models, animations, etc, or you can create them yourself.

I'm not entirely sure what type of effects you want, but what I usually see are things like monster models jumping or running out with sting or screaming sound effects, screenspace shader animations, or something changing on the model (like the head rips open to reveal sharp teeth or something)

[covert fox]

is there like a way to appear and then do the jumpscare?

[arctic ginkgo]

like you want your avatar to be invisible and then only appear when you trigger the jumpscare?

[covert fox]

like your invisible and u just pop out and jumpscare them?

[covert fox]

YES

like i can appear and disappear?

why is ts so hard tho

[somber sequoia]

why is what so hard?

[arctic ginkgo]

oh yeah there's a few ways to do this. On PC you could probably use tranparency or UV tile discard? I would recommend against disabling all mesh renderers or hiding the model far away because those can cause a bug that makes you stay invisible for other players until you reset the avatar

you could try moving the model below the floor (but personal mirrors or skybox and player-only mirrors will give you away

[somber sequoia]

I've got a disappearing thing on one avatar, it uses Poiyomi dissolve in cutout mode, works decently. Still can't hide your nametag though.

[covert fox]

i mean just understanding everything about this

[covert fox]

is there a way to even hide it?

[somber sequoia]

eh.... I'm not going there.

[arctic ginkgo]

if you move the avatar far away or scale it down that can sometimes hide it, but that usually causes issues. I also think that may be considered abusing unintended behavior, so the avatar could get taken down for that

if you're only using it around friends though then you should be fine

some people will just do that to like hide crashers and stuff. Also some people don't want to be jumpscared and it's hard to turn off your avatar if they can't see your nameplate

I think it's fine as long as you just don't hide your nameplate in public though

[covert fox]

alr

[jolly ingot]

Heya, im trying to join a 2 meshes together in blender and managed to merge them and recalculate all the normals but have a slighty obvious merge line that I dont know how to fix

[covert fox]

i mean a nameplate cant be that much

[somber sequoia]

face edit mode, select faces, in the menu: mesh -> normals -> reset vectors

assuming you don't have custom normals, this'll wreck them

[arctic ginkgo]

you could try just using an additive animation on the base layer that moves the avatar a few meters below the ground

[covert fox]

nah i'll just stick to the nameplate i don't wanna be a rude or smth

[jolly ingot]

No I tried that but it didnt fix it

[covert fox]

and i'm new too this so let's start slowly

[somber sequoia]

are the vertices around this area actually joined?

[jolly ingot]

Yes

[somber sequoia]

not sure I get what's causing that then

[arctic ginkgo]

if you want to hide it from mirrors you can also scale the avatar down or turn off the mesh. I would advise having at least one mesh visible at all times though to prevent any bugs. For scaling it down you could use a scale constraint on the hips

[somber sequoia]

it's a bit zoomed in too, hard to see without some more context

[covert fox]

i'll see

i still have to learn

[jolly ingot]

One of my friends said it could be the normal mapping

[candid ember]

hello, i just bought the vrc pcss addon from boothe and im struggling to get it to work. Is anyone able to help me? Im sure im just missing one thing to make it work.

[somber sequoia]

Sure, if you have a normal map applied in the material

But go into studio mode rather than material mode, see if it shows up there

[covert fox]

i gtg so i'll text you if i need help with smth

[jolly ingot]

The lighting is on studio mode

[arctic ginkgo]

I'd probably start with small functionalities and add more as you get more comfortable. Try adding a scale constraint to your avatar's hips, and set the target to an empty object on the armature. Press the "activate" button to lock and activate the constraint. Then you can make an animation for scaling the object to 1 and to 0. I would follow a tutorial for controlling facial expressions with gestures, but just replace the facial expression animations with these scaling animations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU9NFJz2qls

[somber sequoia]

well remove the normal map or set its strength to 0, see if that's it

[arctic ginkgo]

this should let you hide and show your avatar with gestures, then you can add more functionality later like sound effects, animations, etc

[jolly ingot]

It doesn't have a normal map attached

[somber sequoia]

It's got to be the mesh itself then, maybe duplicate faces? I really can't tell from that image.

[jolly ingot]

Whats weird is if I change the color to object its fine and not there

[somber sequoia]

maybe enable face orientation, it could be a backface

[jolly ingot]

I think it might be

One sec

[covert fox]

i’ll try my best thanks for now

[candid ember]

is this the result of a merged solidify modfier in blender? Can make it look like a single mesh even though theres a duplicated mesh inside thats merged. Best way to tell is to pull apart the mesh in edit mode. Just a thought.

[somber sequoia]

yeah - it really looks like a duplicated face

[mellow vigil]

does anyone know why my my phys bones cant be grabbed? I have the settings for grab and pose both set to true. am I missing something?

[candid ember]

u need to set the radius

set the radius under collision to 0.01 and make it larger to your needs

thats in the phys bone settings btw

[jolly ingot]

No i didnt use a solidify modifier

[candid ember]

im 99.99% sure its a duplication or some sort of overlap. Is there a better angle you could show?

[jolly ingot]

When I joined them I clicked the two vertices and selected merge at center

[candid ember]

you need to undo that

wait

nvm

if you undo it, does the issue go away?

[jolly ingot]

I dont know know unfortunately I saved over my previous save

[somber sequoia]

might be more vertices than just that one

[candid ember]

yes

perhaps u selected one behind by accident

would explain the overlap

cant really tell without a better image

[jolly ingot]

No its still one vertices and its connected

[candid ember]

would you be willing to share the blender file?

[somber sequoia]

yeah that really looks like it's not joined

[jolly ingot]

I cant sadly

[somber sequoia]

select the area, mesh -> cleanup -> merge by distance

[candid ember]

the tapology isundesired

[mellow vigil]

thank you so much🙏

[jolly ingot]

The clean up did nothing

[frank dawn]

im trying to make a radiant wheel for a thickness increase but the second it hits 100% it reverts itself to 0% even though its at 100%? any ideas?????

[heavy zephyr]

Turn off looping on your animation clip

[frank dawn]

that fixed it. thank you

[heavy zephyr]

You're welcome ^^

[lyric lintel]

Hey I’m working on a fun avi and wanna give it some cool eye expressions does anyone know where I could get some cool eye textures??

[junior void]

You'll need textures that fit your personal UV layout

[ebon dirge]

Guys help what does this error mean and how do I fix it?

[arctic ginkgo]

it means your avatar failed to upload. This by itself is just telling you that, which I'm sure you already know.

the messages in the console appear in the order they happen, so scroll up and look for any other 🛑 errors to see what could have caused this

[supple prawn]

Avatar missing shape keys.

[somber sequoia]

did you just export from blender? probably got a modifier on a mesh which can't auto-apply. Fix that.

[supple prawn]

ahh

let me use SKKeeper

[royal matrix]

i keep seeing the label "jex texture"

does jex mean anything special?

or is it just a label

[cerulean flax]

How do people retopo toes? Image 1 is the topology of the Winterbold base and you can see some of the geometry of each toe is intersecting with another toe. Image 2 is my first attempt at making my own base. I started with some spheres for the toes (not the claws) but obviously this is a waste of tris and not great topology overall so I want to retopo them, but how would you even start that process? Do you retopo each individually as separate objects and only after that join them together?

This is my first time retopologizing and sculpting in general, and my first time making an avatar, so my b if it's a stupid question.

[junior void]

I do one inner toe separately, then mirror it so you have the two inner ones, then do the same with one outer toe. I also use an empty as my mirror object in the mirror modifier to make sure they don't intersect until I'm ready to stitch them together

[cerulean flax]

wdym by inner and outer toes?

Inner as in, like, big toes?

Like what would be your thumb on your hands?

@junior void

Or by inner toes do you mean the big toes?

That's probably what you mean

[somber sequoia]

that's how I'd read it

I wouldn't mirror them though, I'd make the first and third the same, second longer and 4th shorter

[cerulean flax]

Neither here nor there since that's stylistic preference

[somber sequoia]

yep

[cerulean flax]

What I'm taking away from what Zero said is to retopo toes separately, basically

Makes sense

That was my intuition

[somber sequoia]

yeah - not sure I'd take that approach but it makes sense

[wind pelican]

use subdivided cubes instead of uv spheres for better topology

[cerulean flax]

Hindsight 20/20

Was expecting to retopo it anyway

But it stayed together much better than I expected

Now it is obvious, but it wasn't then

[wind pelican]

for those shapes id duplicate/scale subdiv cubes for all of them and then delete the back half of them, then fill in the bits between and the rest of the foot

[cerulean flax]

This is not germane to what my question was tho

[wind pelican]

very vague but uuuh idfk how to explain stuff lol

[wind pelican]

it seems like that might be what your reference model did too, started with subdivided cubes for the toes and worked their way back to meet the leg topology

[supple prawn]

??? im lost

[ornate stump]

Probably one of many other issues.

[supple prawn]

ahhh

[west magnet]

I'm getting this weird error where it says the bones are missing when I'm trying to animate them, but they're clearly not missing

also when I go to preview the animation it sets the bones at 0 0 0 for position

Apparently it was the names that were the issue, I renamed the bone the two other ones were attached to and it fixed it somehow

[ornate stump]

If it's saying missing it rather mean the animation path to the object had been changed.

[west magnet]

thats the weird thing, I literally changed nothing and it starting saying its missing

[viral lark]

This white stuff appears between my avatars legs everytime i look down and i have no idea how to get rid of it

[ornate stump]

Identify them what object it's from. You should try moving bones in unity and see what make it move.

[viral lark]

my best possible guess is the root because it's inbetween the legs

[ornate stump]

You have to actually check, not just guess.

[arctic ginkgo]

that's the opposite of where it would be though. If it was attached to the root, it wouldn't be moving so much, and wouldn't move when you moved your head. Most likely it's your head bone or a nearby one (like neck, chest, eyes, etc)

[outer adder]

does anyone know how to preview .anim files like this:

[ornate stump]

You just select the animation clip file.

[outer adder]

i did

[ornate stump]

Then what did you see?

[outer adder]

give me a sec i'll take a ss

nvm

[ornate stump]

Pull this up

[outer adder]

i figured it out

yeah

thank you

[mild light]

Hey guys i have an Generic Avatar here and for some reason it does not work properly. I have three layers, and only the "Walking" layer seems to work fine but the "Talking" Layer doesnt do anything at all for some reason:

The only thing that is in the "Talking" layer is this one animation and the Motion Time for the Voice Parameter:

The only place where i have the Controller in is inside the Animator since that is the only thing that seems to work somewhat as of now:

[balmy barn]

this is why

it has no idea wich mesh to talk to

see this one have a mesh and menu appear, other dont

both generic

if you making a plane avatar, do it in blender so you have origin right and it will have a mesh as generic

[obtuse bronze]

OK so I have been working on this world for two months and I finally was confident enough to try something with udon for teleportation to another part Only problem is that then it did not work so I had to scrap that and now I am stuck with this error that I cannot get rid of and I have googled it and everything and honestly I'm getting very stressed out can somebody help me to fix this

[young mango]

hey, does anyone one know a reason why this could be happening to my avatar, when in T-Pose, the feet on the avatar are fully straight, but when entering Play mode and in game the feed just rotate to one side, and this rotation persist even when calibrating for fbt, my avatar doesn't have any special animations, not even gogo.

[left wharf]

you might want to ask in #world-development

[obtuse bronze]

ok

[balmy barn]

its vrchat locomotion, it shifts legs

[young mango]

to my understanding this should not persist when calibrating for FBT, and last few avatars do not have this problem

[balmy barn]

most fbt tend to disable that in settings , mines off

[mild light]

aah how would i generate that?

I did make it in Blender. Do i need to change anything in the fbx settings?

[balmy barn]

long as you end up with something like that it will work

[mild light]

Peak it did work! Thank you so much ❤️

[frozen imp]

Hey all, my avatar isn't letting me configure the rig. it's saying that i'm missing a bone, but i already have the bone in the model! if anyone could help me, that would be kickass.

if you reply, @ me

[vapid cosmos]

im a little confused as i keep getting this message. i made a new unity file and VRCFury adds just fine. it only does this with avatar 3.0 manager, Av3Emulator and i just installed a follower package and i not sure if that could be the possible cause or not

[gaunt knoll]

Hi can you screenshot the whole thing please It is a little hard to understand that

[gaunt knoll]

Can you screenshot the logs please

[vapid cosmos]

this is the best sc i could get

that, or i could copy them

[gaunt knoll]

No that's amazing thank you

[vapid cosmos]

yw!

sorry for the late responses, im doing several things 😭

[gaunt knoll]

Nooo DW I'm on a jog

[vapid cosmos]

i also just seen this, dont know if its important

[gaunt knoll]

You have space in your C: drive right

[vapid cosmos]

yeah

[gaunt knoll]

Oh yeah plenty of room

[vapid cosmos]

thats what im confused with, i downlaoded 2 things to my VVC application as they were follower prefabs, then thats when the issue began

[gaunt knoll]

Yeah VRLabs had an issue

okay there are two things we can try first one

windows + r

%LocalAppData%\VRChatCreatorCompanion\

do you see the setting.json file?

[vapid cosmos]

looking rn

yep!

[gaunt knoll]

Can you move that to your desktop or somewhere else

[vapid cosmos]

lemme try rq

done

[gaunt knoll]

Okay when you load up cc now it should make a new one

[vapid cosmos]

are all my projest supposed to be gone or?..

[gaunt knoll]

Yes they aren't there but they are DW

Can you now delete the new one and more the old one back into the file

[vapid cosmos]

alright, done

[gaunt knoll]

Can you check cc see if you have the same error

[vapid cosmos]

yes, i do get the same error

[gaunt knoll]

That's annoying

[vapid cosmos]

could it be something with this or nah?

[gaunt knoll]

Yeah

You have duplicates

@vapid cosmos

[vapid cosmos]

i removed the one

[gaunt knoll]

That's annoying as well it normally says that

[vapid cosmos]

so i remoed the one and i still seem to get the same error 😭

[gaunt knoll]

Broooo

[hard hatch]

I'm trying to make a texture on SP, but I want my teexture to only apply for a certain part of the UV map. Quick Mask is useless, and using normal black or white masks only dont do the job at all. I've tried using the setting that makes it so that painting doesn't bleed over to other islands, however that rarely ever actually works. Does anyone know a way that I can section off only a specific part of the mesh to paint on?

[dark python]

Does anyone know how to make corrective blend shapes look good ?

my problem is that when i rotate my arm it obviously changes where the Blendshape moves the vertices to. And it looks even worse in game, I have no idea how to approach this so it doesnt look awful.

[somber sequoia]

I've tried this but didn't really come up with something that was noticable enough to be worth the hassle. I usually just use twist bones and call it a day.

[gaunt knoll]

Naaa man you just double joined everything looks fine

[dark python]

already have twist bones set up, and imo corrective blendshapes are noticeble enough for me to care. its just that it doesnt work off axis that bothers me.

[somber sequoia]

I did try using an extra bone on the elbow constrained to the forearm to reduce some of the elbow movement... worked alright in one case.

[gaunt knoll]

Isn't that bad for fbt

[somber sequoia]

I don't see why it would matter?

[gaunt knoll]

@vapid cosmos did you get it working

[vapid cosmos]

Back sorry I didn't see the earlier messages I've been modeling!

[gaunt knoll]

Aaa sorry 🤣

[vapid cosmos]

But no, I haven't. I'm just gonna result into finding the packages myself and importing them into my unity scene

I truly don't know the issue 😭

[gaunt knoll]

Do you mind adding all of your packages back manually

Like adding them back to cc

[vapid cosmos]

Idm at all

[gaunt knoll]

Oki can you move the settings.json back to the desktop

[vapid cosmos]

Done!

[gaunt knoll]

Can you now go to cc and make a new project

See if you can add that package to it

Just as a test

[vapid cosmos]

Hmm, strange it still doesn't work even with removing the setting file

[gaunt knoll]

Really

Wth

[vapid cosmos]

Yeah I'll get a screenshot

[gaunt knoll]

You know I love cc sometimes but most of the time

[vapid cosmos]

I'm finna fight this application 😭

i dont know if this is useful but could it be related to this aswell??

As vrc fury adds fine, gesture manager is fine, it's mainly just avatars 3.0 manager, Av3Emulator

[gaunt knoll]

Yeah that's very strange you can add that settings.json back now

I'm going to see if I can replicate this error

[vapid cosmos]

Alright, it only started after I tried following a vrchat follower tutorial

Apologies

[gaunt knoll]

Naaa all good 🤣

[vapid cosmos]

Also that I could try doing is deleting the community repositories from the settings and reinstalling them to my creator companion

Tried it, that also failed

[gaunt knoll]

Nooooooooo

[vapid cosmos]

I'm now genuinely confused on what the issue even is

[sturdy kestrel]

So im a little confused, I can update an avatar ive already uploaded (it uploads fine), but when I try uploading it as an entirely new avatar i get an "Avatar not found" error. Any ideas why?

[somber sequoia]

can you show the actual error?

I suspect it's because you can't upload new avatars with SDK less than 3.9

(which you don't want as it's buggy, use 3.10.1)

[sturdy kestrel]

I use Vrcfury to simplify my projects, which doesnt work with 3.10.1

however im using 3.9

[somber sequoia]

sure it does.

[sturdy kestrel]

well i'll try updating it and i'll see what happens

[ornate stump]

Works fine for me.

[somber sequoia]

likewise

[sturdy kestrel]

again, i'm updating to see if it works

what version of vrcf are y'all using

[somber sequoia]

looks like 1.1276.0 in this one project

I see an update though

[timber wharf]

wasnt 3.9 still viable for a new uploads tho?

[ornate stump]

1.1278.0 and 1.1269.0 on 2 different projects.

[sturdy kestrel]

k i updated to .10, uploading now to see if it works

i think i figured out the issue

[ornate stump]

It can, but it can break avatar for first upload if it failed.

[sturdy kestrel]

Okay so when i updated it, it updated incorrectly

especially since the Avatar Descriptor looked REALLY off

unless thats just what it is now

[ornate stump]

Check console for errors.

[timber wharf]

its the same, and being off does mean it is died halfway

[sturdy kestrel]

like being able to choose the animations is nice [male or female] but the rest was REALLY icky

[sturdy kestrel]

i re-updated it and its fine now

probably from a failed update, since again, it's all good now

plus the avatar just uploaded

so we ball

[still shuttle]

Anyone know how to do something like this with menus?

[trim prism]

anyone know how to fix physbones jittering when i sit down? so, my skirt physics jitter when i sit down, probobly becuase theyre colliding with the leg colliders?, idk much about skirt physics its just a booth outfit that came with the physics, i have another outfit that did this too! is it a common issue? or can i fix it? if it helps i can send screenshots

[candid ember]

I believe colliders physics are always gonna be jittery. However I could be wrong. If I where you, id mess around with the phys bones collide radius, the radius of the actual collider and the gravity settings untill you find a nice balance where jitter is low. I don't think it's anything your gonna ever fully avoid. The best you can do is get it to a manageable state that doesn't bother you in game :). I could be wrong tho, I don't mess with colliders all to much.

[heavy zephyr]

Try using the "physbone as spheres" or similar checkbox on the leg physbone colliders

[grizzled salmon]

can somebody help me my balloon when I turn on world drop its sticking to my hand

[lapis aurora]

Does anyone know how to handle tracking for a model with a long neck?

when i look up and down, my character starts to float or descend into the ground

[night ember]

Then you didnt do the cknatraint correctly

Or the animation

Either or

[somber sequoia]

if your viewpoint moves too much, this is what happens

[grizzled salmon]

can we join a call so i can screen share

[lapis aurora]

it's based on the viewpoint as opposed to a particular bone?

[somber sequoia]

I believe the viewpoint is anchored to the head bone

[night ember]

Just send screenshots

[night ember]

Other way around

[somber sequoia]

oh really

[night ember]

The head bone is forcefully ik tracked to the viewpoint

[somber sequoia]

ahhh

ok that makes sense.

[night ember]

Its why when its too far forward your avatar shifts up and down

[lapis aurora]

does the location of the view point

[night ember]

Or if you use hip instead of head lock

[lapis aurora]

also affect where the legs try to go when on desktop / not full body?

[night ember]

Technically yes and no?

[lapis aurora]

because i have an issue where my legs go far back, instead of remaining in place

[night ember]

In desktop the camera literally pans up and down to compensate

[grizzled salmon]

is it because its on hip

[night ember]

Mmmmmmmm fury

[lapis aurora]

to compensate for what?

[night ember]

The offset?

If it just rotated the viewpoint without moving it up and down you would be dragging the avatar up and down

[lapis aurora]

ah, which is why it only happens with tracking

it looks fine in desktop

but with tracking it has to correlate to where my literal head is

so it has to compensate

[night ember]

If the avatar moves up when you look down the view point is too far forward

[grizzled salmon]

is the root bone the prob

[lapis aurora]

the problem is this is a very non standard avatar

[night ember]

You dont want to put it at the avatar's eyes

Otherwise your hands are fucked

[lapis aurora]

the hands were fucked when i tried it yeah

i couldnt put them down fully

[night ember]

Well yea

[somber sequoia]

that's fine - you just have a "humanoid" neck and head bone, and the viewpoint somewhere in the chest where your human view would be, and the rest of that neck you do via some bone chain with constraints or something

treat it like it's a costume your IRL self is inside

[lapis aurora]

bone chain?

[night ember]

Youd want to have the viewpoint shifted forward equivalent to the vr headset irl compared to your face

[somber sequoia]

a chain of bones going up the neck to move it however you want.

[lapis aurora]

i can move the view point down towards the base of the neck

[night ember]

Overcomplicating it
Vrchat's ik already does the head tracking fine

[somber sequoia]

okay

haven't done this myself, just talked to others than have, apparently differently

[lapis aurora]

how exactly can you hook that up? afaik there's certain bones that need to be present, and anything else is kinda like, separate from a standard model

[night ember]

Well

[lapis aurora]

right now the neck joint is somewhere in the middle of the neck, only one joint... it looks a bit awkward but could be worse

i tried messing wit hthe head/neck bone to fix the issue but based on what you're saying the viewport is the issue

[night ember]

For humanoid rigs for vrchat
Its just
Hip>spine>chest>neck>head
Hip>upper leg>lower leg>foot
Chest>shoulder>arm>elbow>hand

[night ember]

Viewpoint needs to be whwre your irl head would be not the avatar's

Well specifically the vr headset

As well as the controllers

Since the avatar just tries to move those 3 points of the avatar to your tracking

Its why the hands "wont go down"

[lapis aurora]

ok i can adjust that

[night ember]

Just slap the view point in the neck and you are fine

Use a headchop component if it blocks your view

[lapis aurora]

that's the bit that makes it so i can't see certain things nearby right?

parts of the model, that is

[night ember]

Well yesnt

On the local avatar when your view is close enough to it it scales the headbone to 0 by default on every avatar
Headchop is a component that lets you control this functionality by specifying the object you stuck it on's scaling when vrchat triggers this

So you could scale anything to whatever scale value between 0 and 1 of itself based on if the normal headchop is triggered

People use it to scale up hats n stuff so its still visible

Or in your case scale the neck to 0

[lapis aurora]

uhhh let's see

like so?

[night ember]

Thatd work

[lapis aurora]

Let me see how it is on desktop

[night ember]

The ik is indeed stupid

[lapis aurora]

wont my perception be kinda weird since i won't be looking out the avatar's eyes?

[night ember]

If you find it weird then yes

You could add cameras to the eyes that take over your vision but I wouldnt recommend it

[lapis aurora]

uhhhhhh

it kinda fucked everything

he became a necklet lmao

[night ember]

A what

[night ember]

Whats wrong with that?

I dont see anything wrong with it

[lapis aurora]

the neck basically folded into itself

[night ember]

Oh

[lapis aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/tropius-pokemon-gif-27432751

[night ember]

Odd behavior

[lapis aurora]

i adjusted the bones to my pre-fiddling but all i did here was change the viewport and move it into the neck rather than be in the head

[night ember]

You might need to actually do the secondary bone thing then

[somber sequoia]

yeah this is exactly why I said it

[night ember]

Shouldnt be moving the head like that

My only guess is its too far from the view point that the ik is trying to drag the head closer?

[lapis aurora]

i think that's what's going on

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's my assumption too

[lapis aurora]

is there any guidance to follow on how to do this sort of thing then?

[night ember]

It normally shouldnt do that though

[lapis aurora]

this is a pretty uncommon model type i imagine given the neck

[night ember]

Its just go into blender and duplicate the neck and head bone and use the duplicates in the humanoid rig
Then adding vrc rotation constraints to the original neck and head tracking the duplicated neck and head rotations

Though you might need to scale down the duplicate neck and head to fit humanoid proportions

[lapis aurora]

uhhh

[night ember]

They dont need to be weight painted they just need to exist

[viral folio]

Ok vrchat sdk just suddenly isn’t showing up

[night ember]

Need more info than that

[viral folio]

On the top left where it was before, I made a new project and now it’s not showing up in unity

Or in any other project

I didn’t even do anything to make it go away

[night ember]

Well did you actually import it

[viral folio]

I thought so? It was there once before but when I closed unity it went away

How do I import it again?

[night ember]

Using creator companion?

[somber sequoia]

Check your console for script compile errors, one can break them all

[lapis aurora]

ok gonna try what u suggested diven give me a bit to work thru

[lapis aurora]

Do i need to duplicate the eye bones as well?

[night ember]

No

[somber sequoia]

eye bones must be direct children of the head bone in that slot

[dark cypress]

Way cant i up dat th sdk any more i am on sdk3.8.1!!!!!!!!! help

[somber sequoia]

because you have to be on 3.9+

[lapis aurora]

so i just need to reparent them?

[somber sequoia]

worth a try, but I suspect you'll need to duplicate them and use constraints

[lapis aurora]

ok i will duplicate the eyes then

[dark cypress]

but how id dose not let me !

[timber wharf]

what, since when👀

[somber sequoia]

it says so right in that error though

[timber wharf]

weird, why cant it be anywhere in hierarchy, not being humanoid bone

@dark cypress the what and some images pls

you cannot upload a new avatars on pre-3.9

[dark cypress]

I am not aveb to update the sdk in the VRCcreatat compionan like usaly thrue the Project mangment seting and the in the drop don menue. I am on the news version

[somber sequoia]

if you are on 3.8 you are not on the latest version of the SDK.

[dark cypress]

the news versi0on of the creater compainan 2.4.5

[timber wharf]

thats not the english i learned

[lapis aurora]

ok so i did the bone duplicating

i can't see now though...

i think my viewport isnt disabling the geometry around it

[viral folio]

K got it, but now the avatar won’t load? The model I mean. The thumbnail loads but the avatar has a blue box next to it and every time I click it the background goes blue and the avatar comes, but then when I try to build the avatar it doesent build

[night ember]

Doesnt need to be rigged

The avatar descriptor controls eye look