avatar-help

[somber sequoia]

oh I was thinking if you wanted to have an item on when another is off, you can use the same variable to trigger both. true = item A on, B off, false = B on but A off.
If you actually want to change the state of parameters in an animation state, VRC Avatar Parameter Driver.

[mellow vigil]

My bad I probably didn't communicate that correctly

[dusty monolith]

all the sudden i cant update any packages and my project is asking me to go in safe mode, tf happen? all i was tryna do was install modular avatar

[junior acorn]

im not sure, kazin could help you with that

but anyways

[somber sequoia]

no worries 🙂

[somber sequoia]

please don't direct people specifically at me

[junior acorn]

sorry

[somber sequoia]

(I've also never used Modular Avatar, so other than "fix broken scripts, see console for errors" I have nothing to add here)

[dusty monolith]

i mean i also updated my vcc

let me get my logs holup

[junior acorn]

ok but while your doing that i just wanna ask some people if its okay to publish my something wicked (ultrarevamp) avatar for testing

even if the textures are a little wonky

[somber sequoia]

? you can publish whatever you want

[junior acorn]

im not sure about the textures though thats one of my main focuses with this avatar

[mellow vigil]

I got a better explanation

[dusty monolith]

everytime i load my logs this pops up

the only error

im not importing anything since it didnt work the first time

[somber sequoia]

so you could use one variable, an integer, and have 0 = off, 1 = butcher knife, 2 = kitchen knife.
Or use VRC Avatar Parameter Driver on the animation states to turn off the other variable.

[mellow vigil]

Thats what I was thinking also, though the only experience I have with integer toggles were blendtrees, but I'll try to figure that our or learn the parameter drivers

thank you!

[junior acorn]

maybe i should try a more direct approach: the gray parts are the transparent parts of the textures

[somber sequoia]

blendtrees tend to use floats

[harsh hedge]

does it matter where i place my bone ?

do i have to be accurate ?

[mellow vigil]

I lowkey forget who I used them but It had something to do with a blendtree 😅 I think I used it to swap between 2 seperate blend trees

[somber sequoia]

Which bone?

[harsh hedge]

spine hips and chest

[somber sequoia]

There's an ideal rig diagram pinned in #avatar-rigging

[harsh hedge]

yeah but it's not very accurate x) + there are more bone in this picture

[somber sequoia]

Yeah it's got an upper chest, which is optional. Otherwise it's pretty good.

[junior acorn]

no answers to this problem, interesting 🥲

[harsh hedge]

when i do the data transfere i have this bug

[dusty monolith]

what the hell?

[somber sequoia]

(use alcom)

[proven python]

Yo I NEED help so ALL my toggles work on PC but 3 of them don't work on quest any reason why?

[dusty monolith]

whats this

i installed it

just spamming me with errors

[somber sequoia]

I don't use vcc, sorry

[proven python]

Any help?

[somber sequoia]

you're using the same parameters list for both versions, right?

[proven python]

Mhm

[proven python]

Yeah?

[little plume]

i need help remaking the particles for this character

the ones rotating around the head

so far i just have a mesh particle of the roller coaster carts

which do not currently orbit the head

[somber sequoia]

it's a common mistake, I didn't have anything further given the info I have

[hard hatch]

so I created a radial toggle to swap certain meshes from an asset on and off but whenever I actually try to use the puppet in play mode, it doesn't change anything

I made sure that when I made the parameter for it, it was a float, made sure that everything is named the same, and for some reason, it's not working.

[quasi crypt]

the contacts on vr chat made it is a bit big is there a way to fix that in unity or not

[heavy zephyr]

In the avatar descriptor component there is a section to change those default contacts' position and size

[quasi crypt]

thank you

i see it now

[dull glen]

Trying to export an idle (for the crown) but the actual animation part in unity refuses to actually import? any idea why?

is it just cause it's an NLA strip or something?

[junior acorn]

should i publish ultrarevamp something wicked now or do it tomorrow?

even if it looks a little off, it should still be good enough for first timers

or however you wanna put that

i dont know

just a reminder its gonna be private for now until i manage to get everything all fixed up

i need to get things done such as quest compatability, and a few abilities (which im not so good at)

[clear quest]

i have removed assets from him, i lowered image qualities, i sold my kidney to the devil, YET NOTHING, someone PLEASE JUST TELL ME

[copper bone]

I'm at the final step of a project, but i've no idea what this is reffering to

[somber sequoia]

any errors above it? if so, always look at the first few.

[copper bone]

these are all that's in the console

[little plume]

bumping

i have the roller coaster cart itself spawning as a particle, but it isnt orbiting

[junior acorn]

ermm on second thought i'll try out the quest compatability stuff

to see how it works

oh what the heck i'll publish it anyways

wish me luck guys i hope it doesnt get leaked on any avatar searches

oh come on

[timber wharf]

cant upload new avis on old sdk ye, they broke avatar ids smth smth

[junior acorn]

i knew that i saw the error

idk how to get the new sdk when i have one already

[timber wharf]

just upgrade package in vcc

[junior acorn]

i see, THATS what i forgot to do

[vale cove]

Stuck on loading in the VRChat SDK and vcc is stuck loading packages.

Not sure if this is me or not and I checked servers for anything but it says the issue similar to this was fixed earlier so I'm not sure what's up

[junior acorn]

alright NOW i'll upload it privately

[junior acorn]

also im not sure how this happened and i dont know how to fix it

like i said im new to avatar development

[vale cove]

No worries! Just seeing if it's just a me thing or not lol

[tender spruce]

Probably a common question, I have a pair of animations that change a blendshape from 100 to 0, if the default state of the blendshape is 0 it works fine but when I set it to 100, then the animation doesn't play. Did animations always not work when the blendshape default is not 0? maybe that's what write defaults mean?

[cedar echo]

Why wont my Blendshapes show in unity but they work in blender

[somber sequoia]

exporting with an un-applied modifier that can't auto-apply would result in all the blendshapes missing

[timber wharf]

@tender spruce stuff should be driven by animations just fine, its more common for initial value to not work rather than an animation. write defaults means animation kinda remembers what it was before animating it, so with wd on youd only need blendshape going to 0 as animation, while with wd off both 100 and 0.

[cedar echo]

Only 2

[somber sequoia]

yep, there you go

[timber wharf]

yep try applying second one

armature is fine

[somber sequoia]

yeah don't apply armature

[cedar echo]

so i had to delete the smooth one, becuase you cant apply it for some stupid reason

[somber sequoia]

because it alters the mesh. There are tools for this, I use this one:
https://github.com/przemir/ApplyModifierForObjectWithShapeKeys

[cedar echo]

thanks, I had one but i had lost it once i upgraded my PC

[mellow vigil]

I was able to figure it out with this method using intergers after putting it into practice and getting a work flow going, thank you so much for the help!

[somber sequoia]

very nice!

[outer adder]

I've been working on avatars for some time and I've been trying to make RKS(Real Kissing System) and JKS(JustKissingSFX) work on some avatars that are not Karin, but can't wrap my head around how to make it work.

RKS Does work as intended I think but I thought it had animations for when you get close to someone else and start kissing.

JKS Is supposed to play sounds but it doesn't even tho I followed the guide and checked that is not only local + the detection area looks fine and in the middle of the face of the avatar.

I even got one of the contact settings for the specific avatar I'm trying to modify and still no sounds (at least i got the animations working with that one)
I am using gogoloco as well
(I've been messing with the contact size and all that, it still doesn't really play any sound)

[sleek agate]

What are the best booth avatars

[dark saddle]

is it possible to have colliders work inverted for physbones?

For example, having a physbone NOT leave a sphere collider?

Making a hoodie, I want the hair to stay contained within it without disabling the physbones

[somber sequoia]

Yes - you want "Inside bounds" on the collider

[cedar echo]

I'm having a weird Issue with my animator seeming to not not doing anything

[somber sequoia]

in play mode or in game, the animator in the animator slot is not used

[cedar echo]

oh. 😭 i entirey forgot thst

[hard turtle]

Unity vs blender why is the weight painting fucking with me in unity

[junior void]

unity strips wweights to 4 bones

you can simulate that in blender under weight -> limit total -> set to 4

[hard turtle]

where is that?

[junior void]

in weight paint mode under the tab "weights"

[hard turtle]

ah

i was lookin in the armature

thnks

ok thank u :)

[spiral lintel]

Idk why but the bellybutton ring i added wont move with the body when i use pose mode in blender

[junior void]

did you weight paint it?

[spiral lintel]

yes

[junior void]

to which bone?

[spiral lintel]

the bones near it

thats supposed to move it

[junior void]

is it its own object or part of the body mesh?

[spiral lintel]

uh

u mean like is the object connected to the armature?

[junior void]

no, is the piercing its own object

[spiral lintel]

yea

[junior void]

ok, so is the armature modifier pointing to the correct armature

[spiral lintel]

the mdoel dosnt have an armature

its just a mode;

*model

[junior void]

what

[spiral lintel]

the model for the bellybutton ring dosnt have an armature

[junior void]

the mesh of the ring has to have an armature modifier on it

otherwise it wont move when you move the model

[spiral lintel]

oh it says it does

[junior void]

now you need to start showing stuff

[spiral lintel]

alrr

[junior void]

lets have the hierarchy, the armature modifier and an example of you posing but the rng not moving so we see what youre doing

[junior void]

why does the piercing have vertex groups that should not move it

such as butt and leg

also, what is being posed? all bones look the same position to me

[reef cove]

What causes blushes to appear as being too dark? I know that it sometimes happens in some worlds, and with some shaders settings, probably depending on which type of light is used, but that's as far as my intuition goes

[hard turtle]

is there a way i can check just the poly coutn of this in unity?

[junior void]

you can see triangle count in your assets (expand fbx so you see mesh grid symbol and right click -> properties on it)

[hard turtle]

ah

that shit jacket is 6k triangles

guess i really was in a rush when i made it lol

its down to 2.5k now with minimal work

improved my topo too

[velvet stratus]

Hi everyone,
I’m still pretty new to Unity and VRChat avatars and I’m a bit stuck.

The issue with this model is that it’s missing a proper chest bone, and VRChat won’t let me upload it unless a chest bone is assigned. I tried fixing it myself, but it just created more issues.

Another problem is the scale of the avatar — Unity keeps warning me that the model is too small for VRChat.

Would anyone be willing to help me fix this model properly (chest bone + correct scaling) and make it upload-ready for VRChat? I’d really appreciate it if the fixed file could be sent back to me afterward.

Thank you so much in advance — any help or guidance would mean a lot 🙏

[hard turtle]

think 2.8k is too much for a jacket?

im practicing making more messy clothing

[junior void]

hard to say if its too much without seeing the mesh

[hard turtle]

im just practicing adding noise

the model is largely personal but like 80 people downloaded it off jinxxy so figured id revisit it

either way its down from 6.8k

[junior void]

looks decent imo

[hard turtle]

hell yeh

usually my clothes are entirely flat

and just quickly done

figured id take some time to make something mroe

clothy

xD

[somber sequoia]

head over to the VRC Traders discord if you want to commission artists, you'll just get scammers messaging you around here

[somber sequoia]

maybe show the stats in the build window

[clear quest]

it fails for both windows and android even after it builds just fine in unity
ive uploaded avatars just fine with heavier stats

[somber sequoia]

ah, yeah no surprise there

I'm not sure what you mean by optimize in this case

[clear quest]

downsized the texture files, removed phys bones, removed assets

i spent 25 dollars on this model man idk what to do

[somber sequoia]

this is why I wish creators would post stats up front, that's extremely poor.

[clear quest]

no stats were listed

[somber sequoia]

yep, figures.

[clear quest]

is there any way to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

you could attempt to optimize it

[clear quest]

what more can i do with just unity? i dont have the raw files

[somber sequoia]

there's a .fbx in there, right?

[clear quest]

only a prefab and scene thing, im not knowledgable on this stuff though

[somber sequoia]

huh, with no model files, I dunno. That's not a thing I'd pay for.

[clear quest]

it said quest compatible, this is the QUEST VERSION OF THE MODEL

[somber sequoia]

that is the quest version? No wonder it gets flagged

I figured that was the PC version

[clear quest]

no

[somber sequoia]

I'm surprised you could even upload that

[clear quest]

last night i was able to upload it to be quest only so i know it can go through

[balmy barn]

get nuked

[somber sequoia]

yep.

[balmy barn]

no way it will ever survive a security check

[clear quest]

it did (one on the right)

[somber sequoia]

recently?

[clear quest]

last night

i couldnt get it to work on pc but i could for quest only

pc users saw a robot

i could try removing his keys and hairs

jesus fucking christ

[somber sequoia]

yep, zero surprise there.

[clear quest]

i should have known something was off when all the quest textures were still 2k even for small details

[errant comet]

Some work, that could at least be not unreasonable for PC. Could try using d4rkAvatarOptimizer and see what it gives you with default settings. Going to need manual work, but could at least clean up some and give an idea on what to manually remove.

[clear quest]

i somehow got this

i removed two of the hairs, the sleeves, the socks, the headband. the ears, the horns, and im still suffering

[somber sequoia]

are you a quest user?

[clear quest]

it uploads just fine to android but the moment i upload to pc it fails

i am a quest user

[somber sequoia]

you do realize that your own performance is going to be quite compromised by something this bad?

[clear quest]

wasnt last night

it ran just fine

[somber sequoia]

I'm sure it was, even if you didn't notice yet in the specific situation.

Just saying.

[clear quest]

my friend on a quest 2 thats on its last leg was able to see my avatar without any llag

anyway heres the new stats

[clear quest]

no one lagged from my avatar on quest idk what to tell you

[hazy quest]

how to find which objects are using unsupported shaders for Quest Vrchat?

[junior void]

how does one even get to 538 bones

[somber sequoia]

chains, probably.

[junior void]

maybe but thats insane

[somber sequoia]

yep

but not uncommon

[vagrant dock]

Imagine it saying windows x

[clear quest]

i dont know how they even managed that and idk how to fix it

[gaunt knoll]

How made it

Who*

[vagrant dock]

I find a way to overhaul it

[clear quest]

really? what do you have in mind?

[gaunt knoll]

wild they must be from be in asia

[vagrant dock]

Always do 2 avatars and split half the accessories like I hat cool cloak on this one and other one can have regular clothes as an example.

[clear quest]

i was using the quest version

[vagrant dock]

Or I just remove the stuff I won’t see and also change the the texture size

For quest I always put body texture to 1021 mb and 513 for clothes and shoes and accessories

[clear quest]

i used 513 for everything

64 for the smaller textures

[vagrant dock]

And if it stop to large you can split your avatar into 2 spectate avatar like one with 5 hairs style and other with 5 different hair styles

I’d don’t expect you’ll to understand what I mean by that

[clear quest]

um he only has one hair and one clothing option

[sterile pike]

I'm getting an error where it says to check to see if I'm on the right sdk? and it also says invalid id?

I'm confused

[junior void]

Update the sdk then

[oblique rover]

how do i add more controls or add it to another menu

[balmy barn]

submenu in a submenu and maybe ever more submenues under that

[civic sonnet]

Hi, I have a question. When I add an expression menu to my avatar, it works correctly, but the default animations (clapping, waving, backflip) no longer appear. Is there any way to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

You'll have to add your own menu for those

iirc they all just set the integer parameter VRCEmote, I don't recall the numbers offhand

[civic sonnet]

Are you talking about a menu other than the expressions menu?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, if you add your own menu, you get none of the built-in stuff, so you'd have to create those controls yourself

[civic sonnet]

Do I do that with the help of something external? Using code? Or is it a Unity option?

[somber sequoia]

here, some learnin': https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/expression-menu-and-controls

[young mango]

hello, i got a quick question to see if anyone else is having this issue, where the feet on your avatar rotate both to one side, instead of being perfectly straight when calibrating for fbt, is this something to do with the armature, or something in the idle animations that is messing with the positioning ?

[civic sonnet]

Friend, sorry to bother you, but I've already followed all the steps in the documentation. After adding the custom menu, the expressions menu now only shows the animations I added, but the animations that VR Chat already included are missing, even if I convert the custom menu into a submenu.

Is it possible to keep the default animations and submenus on the same wheel? Or something similar?

[somber sequoia]

Yes - you'll have to create all the ones that VRChat provides by default, those are added at runtime.

it's possible they are in a sample asset in the SDK's examples section, I haven't looked though

once you provide your own menu, you won't get the stuff they add automatically

[civic sonnet]

Okay, now I understand. I'll look up what you said, thanks.

[somber sequoia]

I was just looking in my open project but I realized it's a world, so no avatar SDK in it 🙂

[minor crater]

i did some blender mods and i wonder if i didnt export properly. this is only in play mode. im thinking the scaling was wrong but idk what to set the export stuff to

[somber sequoia]

That is correct

however, if you're overwriting a .fbx file, it may have been set differently before, you might have to just redo the rig setup

[minor crater]

uh idk anything about that aaaa i was hoping i could just change a value in blender to fix this

[somber sequoia]

probably not

[minor crater]

okay so i scaled everything up to 100 in the export, now the body parts look like the correct size but yeah the rigging isnt scaled

[somber sequoia]

in Blender, also make sure you don't have any objects with scaling values other than 1. If you do, apply the scaling transforms

[minor crater]

somehow its magically corrected now phew but yeah everything was set to 1

[somber sequoia]

ah good

[supple lodge]

I'm trying to upload a free avatar after I re textured it a little, this is my first time uploading anything and using Unity, and I get this error, may someone be able to assist me?

[somber sequoia]

unfortunately, that error is not very useful.

[supple lodge]

dang, yeah this is the only thing it says.

[somber sequoia]

is that the only error message in the log?

[supple lodge]

there's these above it

uhhh

hm

it says to remove gogoloco, I should try that I guess?

nope didnt change anything

[somber sequoia]

oh. the ones that say "missing script" is the problem. Always look at the first few errors for the root cause.

[supple lodge]

now it says this

lemme see again

earlier I think I did remove like a prefab but I don't know how to return it

[somber sequoia]

it's not about prefabs, it's about packages like those you install via VCC/Alcom

[supple lodge]

ah I see

[somber sequoia]

perhaps gogo loco, perhaps VRC Fury, you'd need to check the documentation that came with it for clues

[supple lodge]

this has also been appearing for a bit now.

[somber sequoia]

have you installed the poiyomi package? You may need to unlock then re-lock those materials

[supple lodge]

don't think so, let me try that

I can just find it by searching it up right?

[somber sequoia]

yeah go find the docs that came with the avatar and install everything it tells you to

poiyomi.com

[supple lodge]

oh ok yeah today I guess I jsut haven't been reading properly, yeah that's one thing I missed.

ok so it seems like I did get one stepped closer, but now it's this.

[somber sequoia]

that one isn't very useful and likely not blocking anything

[supple lodge]

lemme check the rest of the logs

there's a lot of errors, but these are the first few

[somber sequoia]

yep, again missing script

[supple lodge]

hm

almost all the accessories and core avatar mechanics are an error

[somber sequoia]

nothing in here is useful, it's the missing script ones, the rest are likely just side-effects

[supple lodge]

yeah that makes sense

you said something about reloading shaders or something like that?

[somber sequoia]

unlocking and re-locking, but that's not going to fix the missing script issues

[supple lodge]

how would I find the missing script?

[somber sequoia]

the errors tell you where the script component is, they don't tell you what package you need.

[supple lodge]

I found these other error from earlier

[somber sequoia]

those are not errors, won't block the build.

[supple lodge]

ah

[somber sequoia]

errors are red.

[supple lodge]

should I try talking to the author?

[somber sequoia]

if you can't find info from their documentation, sure, might work

[minor crater]

this just happened to me to

[neat spire]

Try turning off your directional light in the hierarchy. That fixed my issue

[gilded current]

need tpyical help upload avart to unity

[junior void]

Uh what

[gilded current]

I got it haha I was trying to upload it for the biggest time period

like just to get to untiy

[proper orbit]

anybody have any ideas why gestures wouldn't work? all the animations work and the hand movements work it is all on a spcific gesture layer but they just dont animate the face in game for some reason?

[arctic ginkgo]

Well the first thing I'd check is if the animation states are being triggered. You can do this in the Unity editor by using Gesture Manager, then selecting your avatar and then opening your animator controller

A blue line should show under each animation state that's currently playing (it's also a progress bar for the animation within the state), and active transitions will light up blue

If this isn't happening, you may have an issue with your logic, or the parameters could be misspelled

If the states are being triggered but the animation isn't playing, then either your animations are broken, have 0 weight, or their properties are being overriden

[proper orbit]

no blue

[arctic ginkgo]

To check if your animations are broken, you can open the clip and see if anything shows up yellow in the properties area, but if you are using a tool that changes the hierarchy at runtime (like VRCFury) then this might not work. Make sure you're aware of and account for any changes to the hierarchy or names of objects

[proper orbit]

the animations are fine those were the first things i checked

[arctic ginkgo]

There is blue on "any state", which shouldn't stay that way since that's a placeholder for, well, any state. Is this highlight flickering between any other states or transitions?

[proper orbit]

wait i just reset it and now its doiing this

but the face animation still isnt playing

[balmy barn]

'animate the face' , so this is your fx controller ?, wont do much on any other

if you are animating any viseme in use dont it wont like it

[proper orbit]

its on a gesture layer is was working a few weeks ago butrecenlt got a report that it stoped working

no visemes

[balmy barn]

blendshapes dont go on gesture

[proper orbit]

this is the setup the facial expressions on are the gesture layer

this worked just fine a few weeks ago im just trying to figure out why it would stop working

[balmy barn]

doesnt matter blendshapes/face stuff dont go on gesture it might work testing in unity but wont ingame

[proper orbit]

but it did work

[arctic ginkgo]

Yes, like thulen said, put your blendshape animations in FX layer

[arctic ginkgo]

It's not intended to, best practice is to use gesture layer for just hands, fx layer for anything that isn't humanoid

[balmy barn]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/playable-layers/#fx

[zinc willow]

How do I make a hue shift move individually (Body hue moves separate from eye hue) (Quest)

[strong estuary]

How do I change the height of the viewpoint when crouching and going prone in desktop? I'm trying to use custom animations, but the head keeps going too low when going prone or crouching

[heavy zephyr]

You can use the "vrc temp pose space" behavior on the states that change your position and turn it off on other states

[ocean snow]

how do i fix this keeps happening when i try to upload a quest version of an avatar.

[somber sequoia]

are those the first (top) errors?

[ocean snow]

yes the format of executable is

[somber sequoia]

... what?

oh

okay - no idea what that'd mean then, which OS and Unity version?

[ocean snow]

the unity version is 2022.3.22f1

and the os is windows 11

i think i might have figured it out.

[warm junco]

I have an odd question does anyone have any poi shaders settings to make realistic looking skin and clothes??

[timber wharf]

poi being toon focused, odd question indeed

[somber sequoia]

eh, I exclusively use the realistic shading

[somber sequoia]

poiyomi discord is a good place to ask that

[warm junco]

oki ty

[warm junco]

yeah was a long shot but thought id ask anyway

[finite mountain]

would somebody be able to help me with avatar customization? I know Blender well, but not Unity. I have the Kipfel avatar as a base and want to customize it (new tail, keep ears, change textures, add some peircings). How do I keep all the original animations and gestures when modifying it? video recommendations are welcome!!

[somber sequoia]

gestures and animations won't be changed unless you specifically change them

[finite mountain]

It's my first avatar, so i don't even really know how to approach adding whatever i've made in blender and attaching it to the set animations in unity

[somber sequoia]

what have you made in blender though?

usually you can just overwrite the .fbx file if you update it in blender... depending on what you change, you may need to do stuff in Unity too. Hard to say in a general case

[timber wharf]

@finite mountain step one, make separate project, step two, replace fbx on export. then it just works most of the time

[somber sequoia]

yes - make backups

[finite mountain]

Ah!! that makes sense. I'll do that then :> so far i've made a tail and attached some piercings, but im a bit confused on how to apply that method to it since i added more bones for fluidity.

[somber sequoia]

if you added them to the avatar's armature, they will translate into untity

[real linden]

i made a impostor for my avi but non of my friends can see it, thought i was just like we gotta wait some time its been a month now and they still cant see it but it says i have a impostor

[somber sequoia]

what do they see instead?

[real linden]

fallback of some bald caveman

[dire dagger]

What..

[finite mountain]

if im replacing the tail on the avatar, im not sure how to apply the tail animation/gravity to the new one i think is what i was trying to ask

[somber sequoia]

if the bones are the same names as previously it'll be just fine

[finite mountain]

what about the new bones?

[somber sequoia]

if you have new bone names you'd have to adjust animations. physbones... depends on how they are setup

[finite mountain]

i will be back if i have problems 🫡 ty

[real linden]

do you know why they only see my fallback and not my imposter

[somber sequoia]

no - look on the website, make sure there is a fallback

[hearty gazelle]

Is there a way to fix this

Ran it through multiple times and same result happened

Also for some reason under optimization there’s no generate material list for the cats plugin

[somber sequoia]

fix what exactly

[cyan viper]

I have a system for buttons on a tape recorder to be pushed, but they shake when moving in the animations, does anyone know why?

[somber sequoia]

ooh that's a cool tape recorder!

[cyan viper]

It's the same in game. The way I found to fix it was to set the interruption source(I'm not entirely sure what this does) to next state but that makes it so the stop button doesn't work and the sounds don't always play. The other settings don't help either

[cyan viper]

Thanks!

I also tried moving the transitions from anystate to transition to each other but that results in shaking still

current settings

[supple needle]

How does one make something transparent with Poiyomi

[somber sequoia]

it's got a transparent rendering option up at the top

also a few others - the docs explain them

[chilly raptor]

idk know what happendddddd bruh

the middle finger won't go down fully

[spiral lintel]

I just used data trasnfer for the vertex groups and i rotated it bc i i moved other parts the piercing would be too small too see

[ancient adder]

why does the audio sometimes clip when i play it? using animator vrc play audio behavior to play the audio, audio source always on

fixed: solution was to change rolloff curve

[white moth]

Would anyone be willing to help with this

I have connected everything to the chest and it's still not registering right

[ornate stump]

Can you show the rig configuration page?

[drifting carbon]

does anyone know how to set Booth Avatars With compatible Clothing with Modular Avatar?
i bought clothing for it so i can take VRC photos. But i don't know how to set it up?
i came here Needing some Help.

[ornate stump]

https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev/docs/tutorials/clothing

[drifting carbon]

thank you Hopfully i can do it. i dont have big brain but its there ill try this out.

[drifting carbon]

this is confusing 🧠

[ornate stump]

It's the most simplified process already.

[drifting carbon]

yeah but for me its a little hard since this is my first time

[ornate stump]

You have have to ask more specific question where you got stuck at.

[drifting carbon]

i got the out fit dragged into the avatar and set it up.
only thing is the body's Breasts and Legs get very skinny

[ornate stump]

Because that's a different animation controlled by avatar's default fx layer.

[drifting carbon]

ohhh okay

this is where im currently at

it also needs shape keys for the Heels

[ornate stump]

https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev/docs/reference/reaction/shape-changer

[drifting carbon]

im very terrible at this i restarted.
im just at the point where i set up the outfit

[drifting carbon]

i do better when i have someone talking me in Vc through it.
i dont know what to do after i setup outfit with MA.
ive read through it but i dont understand it :/

[ornate stump]

You should use FX layer that doesn't have animation for changing cloth, the one that came with avatar by default has the animation so you can't use it as is.. Or you have to remove all the clothing-related animation from avatar FX layer.

[hard turtle]

dont really need any help but i spent the past like 4 hours optimising my model, and the pants on their own were 26k polys before

not onyl have i made the overall model look better

but the entire outfit is now 14k

[scenic ether]

Can't for the life of me get weight painting down, having trouble understanding

[hard turtle]

weight from bones or use the gradiant tool :)

ur doing hair and blender can strugle with many tubes

[main remnant]

Check the pins at #avatar-rigging to see what the colors represent

It can be complicated

[supple needle]

How to make the skeleton move with the rest of the body ??
-# No blender work

[ornate stump]

Use armature link from vrcfury.

[supple needle]

It’s applied to the skeleton

Still won’t move with it

[ornate stump]

Is it configured correctly? Does it show any message?

[supple needle]

I don’t think it has any messages to it

[ornate stump]

Screenshot to confirm how you add and set it.

[hearty gazelle]

Does anyone know how to fix this issue

Cause the video I’m following on how to do this says keep pressing create eye tracking but it’s not doing anything

Keeps giving me this but the neck already seems to be connected to the chest

[ornate stump]

Aren't you trying to put breast bones on the eye slots?

[hearty gazelle]

Wdym

[hearty gazelle]

Thank you so much I didn’t even see it

But um the issue still shows up

And I still don’t get what blender means

[ornate stump]

Screenshot how you put the bones in the slots now. Also screenshot the bone hierarchy tree.

[hearty gazelle]

Ok I’ll send the screenshot

[ornate stump]

The bone slot got cropped out and I can't see what bones you put in there. And that doesn't show bone hierarchy tree. See the bone hierarchy at the top-right panel.

[ornate stump]

And use Snipping Tool for properly screenshoting.

[hearty gazelle]

like this?

[ornate stump]

You should have widen the panel so we can see the bone names.

[ornate stump]

And what you had in there now?

[hearty gazelle]

Yea

[hard turtle]

I got my entire outfit under 13300 tris

TwT

[hearty gazelle]

Wait so it wasn’t necessary

I feel stupid

Sorry if it was stupid

[flat hill]

How do I make the hair on a character not float in the air? And how do I make it viseble for quest-players aswell as pc-players?

[junior void]

you need to properly parent the hair root bone to the head bone

i recommend vrcfury for that

[flat hill]

???

I don't understand.

[junior void]

which part of that

[flat hill]

all

[junior void]

so do you want me to start explaining what a bone is

[flat hill]

yeah... I'm kinda new to it all

[ornate stump]

In short, bones are invisible object that make mesh moves. If you take a look in Armature object, you should see list of bone and its name. So fine Head bone and put the hair object under there.

[flat hill]

I don't understand the "place the Head Bone and put the hair object under there" part

[ornate stump]

Take a look in Hierarchy, you can drag object around to change object relationship. That mean you have to put the hair object as a child of Head bone. Parent-child relation is object indentation in the hierarchy tree.

[flat hill]

Can we go in a vc so you can teach me this?

[ornate stump]

No.

[flat hill]

ok

[ornate stump]

I already typed it out. So try it out and you will see how it change object relation.

[flat hill]

How do I know if the hair object is a child of the Head Bone?

[ornate stump]

Parent-child relation is object indentation in the hierarchy tree.

[flat hill]

???

[flat hill]

Where do I find that?

[ornate stump]

In Hierarchy panel. If not, what do you see in your unity right now? Screenshot it.

[ornate stump]

Right there to the left side. But you must exit from prefab edit mode first.

[flat hill]

Prefab?

[flat hill]

And now?

[ornate stump]

It's saved object as asset.

[flat hill]

And that means?

[ornate stump]

You should not edit the model as prefab. You should put the avatar in the model into actual unity scene and edit. NOT double click on the avatar object from the asset below.

[flat hill]

oh

So should I restart?

[ornate stump]

Just exit the prefab editing as I said before.

[flat hill]

Is this what you mean?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[round comet]

Yeah you got it

[flat hill]

So now what do I do?

[ornate stump]

Proceed to put the hair object on to the Head bone.

[flat hill]

And how do I do that again?

[ornate stump]

Where is your hair object?

[flat hill]

idk

[ornate stump]

Then what hair that is floating?

[ornate stump]

That's strange if the hair that came with avatar doesn't move. Test it by moving bones in Armature one by one, start from Hips bone.

If your avatar made from vroid then naming scheme might be confusing.

[ornate stump]

Find this Head bone and move its position in the scene.

[flat hill]

I found it

Now what do I do again?

[ornate stump]

Move its position in the scene. You could just read the message above if you're going to ask the same question repeatly.

[flat hill]

oh

Did I do something wrong?

[ornate stump]

You're trying to move in Hierarchy. I mean to move in the Scene.

[flat hill]

Eh?

[ornate stump]

You should be more specific than just saying "Eh".

[ornate stump]

The Scene is the panel that's showing your avatar.

[flat hill]

oh

ok

[ornate stump]

Hierarchy is showing object relations.

[flat hill]

Then how do I move something in the Scene?

[flat hill]

ok?

[ornate stump]

Then you see the red-green-blue arrow in the scene? Drag and move.

[flat hill]

But that moves the whole head

[ornate stump]

Does the hair follow?

[flat hill]

Yes.

[ornate stump]

Then what do you actually mean by "hair is floating"?

[flat hill]

It's acting as if it had space fysicks.

[ornate stump]

Better take screenshot of how it actually is.

[flat hill]

https://medal.tv/games/vrchat/clips/lQrRsJFfD1Hc5KvZs?invite=cr-MSxlRkosNDI3NzcwNDMy&v=15

Here

[ornate stump]

It isn't really called "floating" just slow react to physic. You have to increase Pull value of the hair physbone.

[flat hill]

How do I do that?

[ornate stump]

Find physbone component and change Pull value.

[flat hill]

On every single one of them manualy?

[ornate stump]

You have to see which physbone controlling the hair and change just that. They may be multiple.

[flat hill]

And where do I find it?

[ornate stump]

Select some bone and you will see components displayed in the Inspector.

Keep in mind, physbone component only exist on some bones.

[flat hill]

Is it called Physbone in unity?

[ornate stump]

I keep calling it Physbone so it obviously is.

[flat hill]

ok

just wondering because I can't find it

[ornate stump]

I haven't even mentioned that. Do you see image I sent above?

[flat hill]

Yes, but mine only says Inspector

[ornate stump]

Ok that's a really unexpected way to do the physic.

[flat hill]

I just thoght that was what you meant.

[ornate stump]

Do all the hair bone has rigidbody like that?

[flat hill]

idk

[ornate stump]

Can't you look at them?

[flat hill]

Yes, and not all of them has it

I was able to remove it

[ornate stump]

You have to find and remove all the rigidbody and the force component on every object first.

[flat hill]

done

[ornate stump]

Then follow this video to add physbone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTTnWUkswkU

[ornate stump]

And sidenote, if the avatar is made with VRoid, it isn't going to work well in Quest.

[flat hill]

damn it

that's where I made it

[ornate stump]

Of course.

[flat hill]

found it :3

What value should I use?

[ornate stump]

Watch the video.

[stray lintel]

hi

[flat hill]

I don't understand it

[stray lintel]

im trying to make it so an audio plays automatically when im afk

how would i do that

[ornate stump]

Be more specific what part that you don't understand.

[ornate stump]

Make a FX layer with state transition condition to "AFK" parameter.

[stray lintel]

can i not use the existing afk parameter?

oh wait

[ornate stump]

There is only one AFK parameter. The existing one is the same one you need.

[stray lintel]

oki

wait so should i make it in the same controller

[ornate stump]

In FX controller. Your image is showing Action controller.

[stray lintel]

ok so

im in the fx layer

do i just create an empty anim

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[stray lintel]

ok did that

can i have my animation include audio?

[ornate stump]

If you're going to use Animator Play Audio behavior then you must not put the audio into animation.

[somber lark]

Trying to use vroid to make myself an avatar, I have unity and vcc but idk how to convert...

[ornate stump]

Import into blender via CATS plugin, fix, then export as FBX.

[somber lark]

I need blender now???

[ornate stump]

Yes. There are still vrm converter on unity, but it tends to have issue and will not reliably work.

[somber lark]

Jeeze

This is frustrating

Wondering if I can just give the model file to somebody and have them convert it for me....

[ornate stump]

#avatar-general message

[hearty gazelle]

Is there a way to reduce the polygons/triangles to 15000 easily to make my avatar quest compatible

Cause I tried reducing them already but they only went to 40,000

But I don’t want to mess up my avatar too much and the safe option didn’t work so I had to manually do it

[sturdy valley]

does anyone know how can i put the selected menus into my avi?
(edit, these are actually toggles, and i want to put these toggles into a menu)

[hearty gazelle]

Need help on this btw

[somber sequoia]

make them submenus off your main:
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/expression-menu-and-controls

[hearty gazelle]

Cause I have no idea what to do anymore

[warm vortex]

what have you done so far to lower tri count?

[sturdy valley]

oh actually these werent menus, they are toggles, and i want to put those toggles into a menu

got a bit confused my bad

[hearty gazelle]

I lowered everything but the face as much as I could before it started looking blocky

[warm vortex]

so you decimated in blender?

you can upload an avatar with 70k tris to quest, however it'll be very poor

[ornate stump]

Reducing tris while keeping the model looks good always not be easy.

[hearty gazelle]

Yea

[hearty gazelle]

Ah ok

It’s at 40k

But will ppl be able to see my avatar tho?

[ornate stump]

They can, but they will have to explicitly show your avatar.

[warm vortex]

they'll have to manually show it, but a lot of people on quest have to do that anyways.

[hearty gazelle]

Ah ok

So could I probably reduce the polygons in unity or should I just use the vrc quest tool

[warm vortex]

i'd say delete any body mesh you have thats covered by clothing

that'll cut out a decent amount

[hearty gazelle]

Where can I delete the body mesh at

[warm vortex]

blender will work fine

[hearty gazelle]

Cause i am planning on adding like a second outfit on my avatar for toggles

[warm vortex]

or are you decimating in unity using polytool?

[hearty gazelle]

I’m doing it on blender

[warm vortex]

i'd recommend doing one outfit per avatar if your main goal is optimisation.

[hearty gazelle]

Ah ok

[warm vortex]

so just select the body mesh, go into edit mode, and delete anything that isnt visible under the clothing

[hearty gazelle]

So then I can just make multiple versions of the same avatar with different avatars then?

[warm vortex]

yep !!

just duplicate the fbx

[hearty gazelle]

This might be stupid to ask but idk where the body mesh is at on blender

I’m lowkey new to blender

[warm vortex]

it should be on the right hand side where the bones and stuff are

[hearty gazelle]

So do I just click on body

[warm vortex]

there should be a list of things

[hearty gazelle]

Cause I already combined materials together as well

[warm vortex]

uh im not sure, sometimes the body is also the head

have you merged the meshes too?

[hearty gazelle]

I might’ve I pressed save to atlas

Lemme double check

Yea I don’t see the body meshes

[warm vortex]

so theres only one mesh there?

[hearty gazelle]

Yea

[warm vortex]

okay, it's still doable- you just have to kind of go inside of the mesh and delete from there

[hearty gazelle]

Ok

Also should I get rid of the hair bones

Cause I’m not sure if I need it if imma add some physics on the hair

[warm vortex]

you need the bones for physbones

[hearty gazelle]

Ok

Also if s there a way I can add these goggles as a toggle for on the head and on the eyes

[balmy barn]

weightpaint googles to a bone, parent to head, create a toggle moves the bone up or on eyes ( to hide just scale it to 0 )

[long locust]

Does anyone know how to get illythekittys avatar

[umbral tusk]

Whats this error i get when i try uploading my avatar?
I tried googling the errors but it dosent give me anything helpful

[winged harness]

Could anybody help me set up an avatar properly im struggeling

[somber sequoia]

provide details - what have you done, where are you stuck, error messages, etc.

[winged harness]

Currintly i just uploaded the avatar but i want to added an asset to it myself

But idk how to

Im at dinner rn i can provide more info in a bit

[somber sequoia]

interesting to ask for help then not be available for that help. But okay.

[winged harness]

Well normmaly it takes like 40 min before u get help anywhere

I honistly dident expect anybody to reply this quikly

My appolagies

[gaunt knoll]

Tbh all of the channels in here are pretty quick as long as we know how to help 🤣

[winged harness]

Ok im here im trying to get a pc and quest fall back avatar working and add an extra prop to it

[winged harness]

I can vc and screenshare

[umbral tusk]

Siffs tutorials are great and helped me really well
https://youtu.be/XqtSg6_W07Y

If its a prop from gumroad or smth it usually has VRCfury support built in

[winged harness]

It is

Its like a ghost flashlight w mutiple functions

[umbral tusk]

Ill help u wanna do in DMs?

So we dont fludd the chat

[hearty gazelle]

Hi I’m can anyone help me fix with wtv is going on here

Cause there’s a lot of black stuff showing

[glass roost]

anyone know any boy avatars for quest bc im stuck w the basic ones bc i ain’t know any good ones

[hearty gazelle]

#1138520828556890214

Nvm yall I saved my girl

I’m

[tired notch]

none of the clothing has textures on properly in just unity, so im not sure what to do. ping responses appreciated!

[dark python]

is your texture tiling set to 1 ?

[tired notch]

yes, all of it is set to 1

[mellow otter]

hiii so i don’t have access to my desktop right now but if i were using a bought preset off of gumroad, is there an easy way to make a functioning (not camera-wise but reactivity/gesture wise) second pair of eyes underneath the main ones? i’m not sure if id have to create new blendshapes or what but i haven’t been able to find any tutorials on yt for something like this 😭 im also wondering if it would be easier to do something like this in unity or blender

[balmy barn]

if they have eyebones , slap on rotation constraints to follow the other ones

(gameobjects also work if they are seperate mesh or whatnot)

[dark python]

is there something like a gestureweight but for individual fingers when using index controllers i can reference in unity ?
or a way to add new gestures that give me an output when i make them ingame.

[knotty jay]

ive been trying to add a boop thingy to my avatar but it doesn't work, i was following a tutorial by pxinky. not sure what ive done wrong

[dark python]

im 99% sure it should look like this

[tired notch]

i still need help with this. from what i've gathered, its an issue with the .fbx not keeping the UV unwrapping when the .fbx is exported, but i dont know how to make sure the UV goes with it and nothing online has a direct solution

[knotty jay]

is the new state empty or is it the boop activated thingy (the orange one)

[dark python]

the orange one is the animation for it beeing off, and the other one is the animation beeing on

[knotty jay]

Thanks, i'll try it out and let you know if it works!

[dark python]

might have something to do with using blender shader nodes, are you using any blender plugins like CATS ?

[tired notch]

i got it the other day for sake of translating some of the blendshapes on this new model base

[balmy barn]

check for multiple uv's , some shaders have no selection for others and use first one

[tired notch]

how do i check for multiple UVs?

[somber sequoia]

you can rename those, it helps 🙂

[dark python]

just make sure you dont export trough cats, cause it changes stuff on your model

[somber sequoia]

they're in the properties for the mesh object, right under shape keys.

[tired notch]

yeah, ive been exporting normally

[tired notch]

yeah, theres two for some reason.

[balmy barn]

I use cats export all the time so thats not a thing ive ever experienced ,

[dark python]

haha, i know. im usually just to lazy to do that. because the layer is names and the animation, so i dont feel the need(i was also just trying to show an example)

[somber sequoia]

it's perfectly fine to have two. You might check your materials in the shading section, see if they're specifically using the second UV map (default is the first/top)

[knotty jay]

hmm for some reason it's not working

[dark python]

let me dm you.

[knotty jay]

alright give me a second

[balmy barn]

you can use bool instead of a float (true/false) and if you are using av3 to test there is a setting you need to enable

av3 default dont have them all

[somber sequoia]

huh I've never enabled that, what does that do?

oh descriptor colliders

[balmy barn]

default is just senders, some things i do need both

[somber sequoia]

that's neat, I didn't know that was there

[glad dirge]

how do I add a suffix like this is suggesting

[dark python]

where even is this ?(i use gesture manager to test)

[balmy barn]

thats av3 , i find gesturemanager slow so i rarely use it

[somber sequoia]

enter a value in the box - but in most cases you probably don't want to - why do you think you do?

[glad dirge]

I'm guessing it's because it can interfere with the other stuff right

I don't think it would exactly though because they're stuff I have toggle in the 3.0 menu

[somber sequoia]

Yes, that's what it's for, assuming you actually want these variables unique

[frosty mist]

I cant upload this avatar and idk why ive tried everything, i made it in blender, i textured it in substance and i built it in unity but it keeps saying I dont own it, how do I solve this?

Ive made a new project multiple times as well, i can upload other avatars and I am not restricted

the neck bone is not the issue either

[somber sequoia]

The armature being wonky is the issue.

[frosty mist]

how would i fix

[somber sequoia]

make it not wonky. Really depends on what's wrong with it - come into #avatar-rigging and show the armature, bone hierarchy from root down to head, and your rig setup bone mapping

[dark python]

it telling you to map the neck in the import settings

[somber sequoia]

yeah, probably it's not mapped

possibly it is and it's wrong

[dark python]

this

[somber sequoia]

also look for errors in the rig tab before you click "Configure"

[frosty mist]

guh

is this also an issue or will it be fine

[somber sequoia]

that's probably ok

[dark python]

it will be fine

[runic crest]

hey so i have this issue? this is my first time doing this

[balmy barn]

no shoulders assigned

[runic crest]

i have the same issue with "feet" but everything is selected

[hearty gazelle]

Does anyone know the option or how to fix this cause I already got rid of the triangles needed to fix this but don’t know what to do

[runic crest]

ok, i'll check that

maybe this is the issue? or are they not connected just because i haven't clicked on apply?

nice, everything got deleted

gotta redo

[hearty gazelle]

I honestly don’t know what to do or the solution to this

[civic cliff]

just started on an avi, imported this lil free nose accessory i found, and EVERYTHING in the project just took a shit, i dont know what the error means

[balmy barn]

missing shader or it broke 🤷‍♂️

[runic crest]

have u put liltoon shader on?

[hearty gazelle]

Honestly just need help

[civic cliff]

liltoon shader was and still is on all of the body materials and ofc imported into the project, i tried re-applying the shader to one of the face parts to find out if that'll un-purple it, and it didnt

[runic crest]

is there a way to update an already uploaded avatar?

[civic cliff]

whatever i lost like 10 mins of progress ill just try to reload the project and if that doesnt work im restarting without the nose thing

[runic crest]

i cant change the shader

[stable citrus]

Duplicate and replace the material slot by the new one

[runic crest]

out of nowhere my avatar doesnt do a t pose no more, and i even made a new project

cant fix it

[woeful anvil]

All of my VRC stuff disappeared off of my top tab help

[grand scaffold]

Looks like your prefab got deleted

[woeful anvil]

So I just start a new project and hope the best

[grand scaffold]

I mean you could, dya know what happened to the prefab?

[errant comet]

Prefab disappearing, unknown, but if you imported a new package or scripts, that's why something broke.

[lyric lintel]

hey why do the knuckles stretch out and break when im trying to make hands?

the weight painting is good but its the fingers to hand part that keeps messing up idk why

[whole escarp]

@compact dust

You can manually rename it to match it

Just might work, otherwise try bruteforcing it with Dressingtools

[compact dust]

i refuse to rename 200 bones

[whole escarp]

200 bones? Wth are you trying to rig lol

[compact dust]

tis a dress
i have no clue why the creator put that many in it cus it definitely doesnt need that many

[whole escarp]

Sounds like the clothing set isnt meant for the avatar if the naming is different

[compact dust]

tis not

[whole escarp]

Hmm then like I said, try renaming or forcing it with dressingtools

Shouldnt be 200 unless it includes hands, even then

[compact dust]

134, close enough

[whole escarp]

Did you count it?

Anyway going off-topic, force it with dressingtools, if that dosent work ur out of luck and have to rename manually.

[compact dust]

blender counts em

[whole escarp]

You are confusing bones with transforms

[compact dust]

no, i do in fact know what a bone is

[whole escarp]

Then you shouldunt have to rename 134 "bones"

As a matter of fact you couldve gotten it done like a moment ago if you started it. Unfortunately I cant really provide any min/max solutions for bone mapping, again either dressingtools it or rename it. That will be all

[compact dust]

what are you on about 🙏

[whole escarp]

Dont ask for avi help if you are going to get all emotional about it.

[compact dust]

emotional-? lmao

[mellow otter]

thank you! i was also mainly wondering about actually making the second pair of eyes in general cuz i have a feeling its not just a simple copy/paste kinda thing

[plucky hearth]

does anyone know how to draw a line between two points. i wanna make a grapple hook kinda system but idk how to do make that rope between the two points

[opal relic]

Wait, can I not use blendshapes for eyelook stuff?

[balmy barn]

dont really have many multi eyes characters , there is a old one - have to mess with the weight or the middle one goes too high

it blinks on itself using a layer in fx, can be randomized

[mint silo]

hmm somethings not right here

I honestly dont know whats wrongi have fixed the humaniod rig and its still broken

can someone please help me?

[somber sequoia]

show us a pic of the armature and the rig hierarchy

[half mirage]

my avitar is vewing from the chest plz help

[stable citrus]

Change the viewpoint

[half mirage]

i dont know hows TwT

[stable citrus]

Its inside the Avatar Descriptor Script

[half mirage]

also the eyes are like undead eyes in the game not my regular does that have anytheng to do with it

[somber sequoia]

the toe end bones seem like the wrong choice, but that's not really relevant to being humanoid.

yeah - wrong toe bones, pick the ones above that.
Then try the "force t-pose" thing under the "pose" dropdown right below the bone slots on the rightmost inspector

[somber sequoia]

I don't see the neck and head though so verify those are sane - should be spine3 -> neck -> head

[stable citrus]

I dont think so

[somber sequoia]

this looks like your mesh is not properly weight painted with the armature, but this isn't the right place to judge that anyway.

[torn hound]

im so cooked chat 💔 idk why it keeps doing this. in the project of VCC its up to date, only has gesture manager & Poiyomi Pro. Nothing else, nothing more.

it gets stuck like this, never moving, and has not changed. it uploaded fine on pc, but is stuck like this. if i hit cancel it will break my entire project

[somber sequoia]

you could cancel, close unity, delete the Library folder then re-open Unity and let it rebuild everything from scratch. Might take 55 minutes though 🙂

[half mirage]

big stretch but is there any way you could call and i could share my screen to make helping easyer

[torn hound]

like as in the project its in initially? or what do you mean the library folder? sorry im dumb :c

[stable citrus]

gemme like 10/20min, I'm finishing my game

[half mirage]

aight ill shoot ya a frend request

[somber sequoia]

in your unity project folder, there's one called Library, it's full of stuff that will get rebuilt when you open Unity, if you were to delete it. Sometimes that's a way to make it do a full reset, compiling all scripts and shaders and everything.

[runic crest]

i need a Head bone, right? but when i make a head bone after applying it disappears

[somber sequoia]

you need a head bone and a neck bone. Neck should be a direct child of chest or upper chest if present.

(see diagram pinned in #avatar-rigging for reference)

[runic crest]

this is what i have, if i make a head bone under neck it simply dissappears after aplying on the right

[somber sequoia]

you can't make bones in unity

[runic crest]

nice

any way i can fix that?

[somber sequoia]

fix what?

[runic crest]

i need a head bone

[somber sequoia]

yes, so make one in blender or similar, and weight-paint the head mesh so it moves with that bone

[runic crest]

i made this so i thought it would fix it

[somber sequoia]

you need another spine bone too - you have root -> waist -> neck, this is not valid humanoid

[torn hound]

i think i have to force close it via Task manager, as i hit cancel and its been stuck for awhile now too

[runic crest]

damn

[somber sequoia]

root (hips) -> spine -> chest -> upper chest (optional) -> neck -> head

shoulders come from chest (or upper chest if present)

[runic crest]

im trying to read the rigging section in the vrchat website but it never says what the structure should be like

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/rig-requirements/

[somber sequoia]

again, pinned in #avatar-rigging

[runic crest]

this one

[runic crest]

thanks

[torn hound]

task manager,,, kill this man

HUH???

[torn hound]

i tried to, but it wont let me

[somber sequoia]

I don't use Windows, really can't help you with this

[torn hound]

im so cooked chat

[somber sequoia]

maybe reboot? that seems to solve many Windows problems 🙂

[torn hound]

im gonna reopen it and hope for the best

[chilly raptor]

Im still having this issue

[west ember]

does anyone know how to fix this issue?

I've tried reinstalling Unityhub, VRCC, 2022.3.22 but none of these fixed it. I can't open packagemanager, and im trying to open it with 6000.3.2f1 right now

[stable citrus]

Check the animation itself. If the middle finger does not move all the way down, I think it will need to be adjusted it

[chilly raptor]

Where would I go to check

[left wharf]

you shouldn't use other than 2022.3.22f1 for vrchat
try disabling third-party av software and reinstalling unity

[west ember]

should I use VRCC or unityhub

let me reword, which has a better chance to work 💔

[stable citrus]

VCC or Alcom

[left wharf]

VRCC of course 👍

[west ember]

alrighty

[west ember]

it just shows me this and then the error again

[west ember]

when you say disable third party AV software, what kind would you be talking about?

[left wharf]

like Norton, Trend micro and other Antivirus software

[west ember]

would CC cleaner be considered one

[chilly raptor]

what should I be messing with?

[left wharf]

I don't know about CC cleaner, do you have a link to it?

[left wharf]

^

[west ember]

https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/download?g_acctid=718-869-9982&g_adgroupid=159252064789&g_adid=692786010702&g_adtype=search&g_campaign=en-us_ccl_sch_brn_exc_adw_dtp&g_campaignid=21072671001&g_keyword=ccleaner&g_keywordid=kwd-157649625&g_network=g&om_sem_cid=hho_sem_sy:~en-us_ccl_sch_brn_exc_adw_dtp&ppc=a&ppc_code=012&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21072671001&gclid=Cj0KCQiAvOjKBhC9ARIsAFvz5lim90oyj-BGQMCwmzEryHWHCJh5T_y-IC4ezFr1KMh4RJr57YThBAMaAvYCEALw_wcB

whoa that link is LONG

[stable citrus]

Check the animation with your avatar

[fringe belfry]

quick question, how do i fix the "enable/disable keyframe recording mode" cuz i want to edit the animation of an asset but it doesnt let me TwT its just grayed out

[west ember]

but yeah, i use this to clean up my pc whenever i use it

[chilly raptor]

check it for what

[west ember]

💔

[chilly raptor]

[left wharf]

eh???

[west ember]

im gonna disable it real quick

[left wharf]

lol

[stable citrus]

Its only an exemple

[west ember]

nope. didnt fix it

[left wharf]

just to double check, did you reinstall Unity?

[left wharf]

not restart

[west ember]

i uninstalled via control panel

then reinstalled it

is there a specific way to?

[left wharf]

hmm, then it should be ok

[west ember]

C:/Program Files/Unity/Hub/Editor/2022.3.22f1/Editor/Data/Resources/PackageManager/Server/UnityPackageManager.exe

[chilly raptor]

I don't have that

[west ember]

this doesnt even open

[stable citrus]

[chilly raptor]

yeah I clicked that

I don't have it popping up

[west ember]

should i delete it 🤔

[left wharf]

ya, it seems to be affected by the antivirus...
if not, i have no idea🤷

[west ember]

my windows antivirus is off

i deleted it, im gonna reinstall unity

[left wharf]

do you have other av software? like McAfee

[west ember]

deleted that

[left wharf]

ok

[stable citrus]

Do you have your Project tab locked ?

[chilly raptor]

where would I check

[stable citrus]

This

[chilly raptor]

also I removed fake index and Its not jus the gestures

[chilly raptor]

nope

[west ember]

holy grip

[stable citrus]

Holy hell

[chilly raptor]

idk what happened

I fixed one issue and I gained another

[stable citrus]

By removing fake index, you mean leaving the Gesture Playable Layer empty, right ?

[chilly raptor]

if you mean setting it to "Default Gestures" thing then yes

[west ember]

should these be the only things i install?

im just gonna reinstall EVERYTHING and pray it works

[stable citrus]

You do not need IOS Build, I prefer manual installation, but it should work just fine this way.

[left wharf]

you don't need Openjdk , Android sdk & ndk tools

[west ember]

also, should i be concerned about the security alert

[left wharf]

that's for application like vrchat(ya, it's already patched)
so don't worry about it

[fringe belfry]

sorry to bother but how do i fix the "enable/disable keyframe recording mode" cuz i want to edit the animation of an asset but it doesnt let me TwT its just grayed out and i cant seem to find the reason why

[stable citrus]

Your issue is with Thumbs up or Rock&Roll gesture again ?
I'm so confused

[hot grotto]

Is there a reason why my arms don't change color at all but everything else can? And can I please get help on this?

[chilly raptor]

all of them including the idle

[stable citrus]

And if you remove Fake Index gesture both your hands goes nuts ?

[chilly raptor]

nope just the left hand

and its only the middle finger

[stable citrus]

Would you mind sharing your screen ?

[chilly raptor]

yeah give me a sec

[mint silo]

yeah im trying to deform but blender updated to 5.0

[somber sequoia]

and?

[mint silo]

dont know how lol

i barely touched blender

im lucky i got this far

[somber sequoia]

okay, I'm not sure why the version is relevant then

[west ember]

ended up fixing it, but now another issue arises

what in gods name

someone please help 💔

[errant comet]

Is this a completely new Project or did you open a previous one

[west ember]

the avatar i imported

im about to make a new project

[errant comet]

TextMeshPro is very out of date, it should probably be at least 3.0.6, which I think is the default version installed in new projects

[west ember]

i just made a new project, the same thing is popping up

[errant comet]

shouldn't have, what errors are there other than ones for textmeshpro

[west ember]

i only have these installed

@errant comet ?

[errant comet]

And this is happening before you import anything else? You open the project after creating one with VCC and get those errors

[west ember]

yup

nothing

[errant comet]

Let me see if a new project does that to me

at the least you could just open the package manager and try updating textmeshpro yourself

[west ember]

let me try that

hoooly

it fixed it

but now

theres these

does this matter?

[errant comet]

Not usually

[somber sequoia]

that's weird though

[errant comet]

New project doesn't do that for me. I wonder why your packages didn't update until you manually did it

[west ember]

how would i fix this?

i refuse to ask chatgpt

[somber sequoia]

add the missing parameter to your animator

[errant comet]

Second 2 are something that just happens, bug.

[west ember]

i am not smart when it comes to avis

[somber sequoia]

okay...

[west ember]

let me.. try

💔 💔

[hallow tree]

howdy y'all I'm having an issue with the toon standard shader matcap. Basically I'm using the lilavatarutils lighting simulator and matcaps in additive mode are not getting lit at all. So I'm expecting that in an actual world things are going to look funny when spotlights are around one way or another. I guess I can use multiply mode but then I need a white base color and I think that is kinda messing up something else I'm trying to do. Basically working within the limits of the shader ya know... I suppose the answer is to just make new materials in blender but I was really trying not to do that 😕

[somber sequoia]

you can't use Blender materials directly anyway, the best you'd get there is baking them out into static textures, which you'd then put into Unity materials anyway.

[hallow tree]

wait you can't use unity to make new materials on a mesh can you? I thought that was basically a blender thing and then you can apply a shader to a material once in unity and set all the settings... maybe I'm misunderstanding something I dunno

[errant comet]

Blender is for UV work that the materials in Unity will use. Only material names transfer to Unity

[somber sequoia]

yeah you make materials in unity. You may be thinking of material slots, which apply to faces on mesh, that you do in Blender

materials are basically just a list of textures and settings which configure a shader

I mean, you make materials in blender too but what comes into unity is really just a generic read-only one that you end up replacing with a real one anyway.

[hallow tree]

yeah material slots is what I'm thinking of then.

[somber sequoia]

yep

[hallow tree]

well anyway I'm putting this to rest for the day I'll revisit it later.

[quaint badger]

Does anyone know how to make piece of clothing stay active when your jumping worlds because I have avatar with pants that turn off when I join a new world??

[gaunt knoll]

oh yeah

[somber sequoia]

"saved" checkbox in the avatar parameters list

[glass geyser]

does anyone know a good guide on setting up a quad-legged avatar like a pony? I'm going to try to make one as my model just doesnt fit bipedal, so I know I'd have to use the generic type avatar but I've heard that means setting all the animations yourself.

[somber sequoia]

There's a discord specifically for this, look up 'Limbs'. DM me if you can't find it, I'll send you an invite.

[waxen bronze]

getting this error, i dont know what im doing in unity 😅

[somber sequoia]

do as it says. Upgrade that in VCC or Alcom

[waxen bronze]

🫡

[still thunder]

im having an issue with my audio source every now and then playing in my right ear rather than playing where it should be in 3D space. is there anything in my settings here that could be causing that?

[ornate stump]

Have you put VRCSpatialAudioSource component?

[still thunder]

i didnt at first, tried it afterward, still wasnt working

[ornate stump]

You will have to adjust the range in the spatial component too.

[still thunder]

this is where i currently have it, and im still getting the bug

[ornate stump]

Does the audio you heard actually play out only to right ear, or does it only plays audio right channel, or do you perceive it from the right side in 3D space?

[still thunder]

its like, it plays normal in 3d space to both channels, and is layered an extra time on the right channel

hold up

[haughty plaza]

what

[still thunder]

if you listen closly, you'll hear the almost like a popping in the right ear

[ornate stump]

It actually sounds like it's from the audio clip itself.

[still thunder]

is it cuz the audio files themselves are stereo?

i've already tried it with the "force to mono" option, but no dice. do i need them imported to the project as mono?

[ornate stump]

Force to mono is suffice. I'd rather say the extra popping is miniscule enough to ignore.

[ornate stump]

Create new menu and parameter file and customize here.

[night ember]

You literally showed everything BUT the playable layers

[haughty plaza]

Because there is no playable layers