avatar-help

[crystal whale]

Not yet. But it doesnt make sense that it's working for one and not the other.

[frosty jacinth]

well if your vectors are screwed up it'll mess with your lighting

just change your fbx import settings on your arm models and see what happens

[austere mantle]

does anyone know how to set up realkisssystem?

[ornate stump]

Doesn't it have instruction for setup?

[cerulean flax]

Henlos. I'm making an avatar from scratch for the first time. Should I keep any objects separate? Like the fingers and ears and tail or should it all be merged into one object?

Using Blender

[austere mantle]

it does but it's too confusing

[somber sequoia]

You can keep them separate while working but for export it's way more efficient to have one single mesh for the body

[austere mantle]

it's been 2 days for me trying to add it

[ornate stump]

You should still follow the instruction, and ask a specific question when you're strugling at some point.

[somber sequoia]

explain where in that you are stuck

[cerulean flax]

Can you explain what you mean by "the body"? Do you mean I should keep the head separate? What should be separate?

[somber sequoia]

I mean the whole body

[cerulean flax]

Okay, by body you mean like not accessories I guess

[somber sequoia]

I export my avatars with one mesh for body, one for all of the clothing.

[austere mantle]

im stuck at this

[somber sequoia]

I usually include piercing jewelry on the body and accessories on the clothing

[austere mantle]

idk what is this arrow

[somber sequoia]

Also you should ideally plan to have one material for the body, if you can.

[austere mantle]

it says adjust postion, i don't understand what i'am supposed to postion exactly

[ornate stump]

You should check for object scale. The avatar should have scale at 1, also its Armature object, and the prefab you added.

[austere mantle]

have you used this before?

[ornate stump]

No. Nor had ever used the prefab. Just speculation bases on the basis what could happened.

[austere mantle]

ok

[torpid oriole]

How do I make it where the lavender follows the butt but the physbones for the butt to go on the lavender

ik itll be in blender but I forgot

[ornate stump]

Mesh follows bones. So just put the bone of lavender onto the butt bone.

[torpid oriole]

it is...

thats the issue

[ornate stump]

Then it's rather you had problem with physbone multi child setup.

[ornate stump]

You have to assign excluded transform for the lavender bone into butt physbone.

[torpid oriole]

how do I do that

[ornate stump]

See the physbone component and it will be obvious.

[torpid oriole]

I had that checked

[ornate stump]

No. the Excluded Transforms.

[ornate stump]

Well, "Ignore Transform" that is.

[torpid oriole]

once again! Had it checked

did not IGNORE

[torpid oriole]

theres no physbones

I had it checked when I checked it

[ornate stump]

Not the ignore check box.

[torpid oriole]

I did when I tested it

[ornate stump]

Ignore Transforms

[torpid oriole]

.

I had it on

i turned on the ignore transforms.

[ornate stump]

Not the checkbox mind you.

Since lavender bone itself doesn't have physbone, so Ignore Other PHysbone doesn't do anything.

You have to assign Ignore Transforms

[torpid oriole]

Im adding physbones to it tho but sure ill redo it

[lilac musk]

🍿

[ornate stump]

Not the physbone. You have to assigned the Lavender bones into the butt bone's physbone ignore transforms.

[torpid oriole]

YES I know!

Im redoing it

[ornate stump]

Your words sounded wrong so be sure that you really know it.

[torpid oriole]

OK now wtf the ass isnt moving

the lavender stopped moving but ass isnt

..

As bones still there for blender

[ornate stump]

That because the butt became one bone which physbone can't work on. You have to put End Position for the physbone component too.

[lilac musk]

You can have 1 bone as long as you give the physbone an endpoint position. Though it doesn't give a whole lot of control and probably is better to add an endbone in blender

[ornate stump]

Endpoint Position that's what I meant.

[torpid oriole]

thank you.. ended up doing this. and it worked perfectly and easy

still have to use the ignore transforms but now it isnt annoying

[woeful coyote]

Hi

[sour plank]

Anyone help me with a avatar (it's really long story)

[ornate stump]

Write it down.

[sour plank]

So main Avi has dlc but how it was told to be set up the dlc lands up not showing the Avi original outfit and only the dlc in the toggle but it's stated the dlc will allow all clothing toggles from the original Avi and the dlc add on. I'm really worried I'm going to have to have two individual avatars instead of just all in one. Tried last night friend tryna help me but we struggled so. I did ask creator but haven't heard word yet but I just want to know if it sounds like it can only be two individual avatars. Cause dlc comes with like a better version of the original. Just confusing. Dlc FX menu will replace the originals so like ya idk I'm new to this stuff

[ornate stump]

It depends on how the DLC is made. In most simplest form, it's just going to replace what existing for original avatar, for ease of setup. But you could still repurpose, or remix with original avatar but that requires you to have basic knowledge of avatar setup to inspect how the dlc is made.

[nocturne wagon]

Im having trouble importing this avatar I bought from booth into vr chat im new and I have no clue what im doing please help

nvm i think i fixed it

[junior void]

if you do need help, youll have to describe and/or show what youre stuck at

[nocturne wagon]

on second thought I do

one sec

basically I try and upload the avatar and it keeps telling me to save it somewhere

but it never lets me save it anywhere

and idk how to fix it

[junior void]

maybe try to save the scene before uploading

yea

[nocturne wagon]

how do

[junior void]

ctrl + s

[nocturne wagon]

where do i put it

[junior void]

somewhere in "assets"

[nocturne wagon]

uh how do I find the assets

[junior void]

its the folders and stuff in the bottom panel

in the project panel

[nocturne wagon]

do you mind if I stream it to you I am so dumb i cannot figure out where the heck it is

[junior void]

anywhere under assets

not on your pc anywhere, in assets da da da wherever

[nocturne wagon]

just keeps saying this dosent let me select where the file goes to anymore

[patent crater]

i know this is a long shot, but has anyone seen this problem before?
the left leg keeps shaking. it seems to be linked to the idle animation, but I'm not able to reproduce this problem in Unity.
i have checked, and the bones are mirrored in Blender with he same heights and lengths.

Does anyone have an idea what the problem could be or what else I can check?

it is the whole leg, but just up to the hip bone. Everything else is fine, and it does happen in Desktop, VR, and full body.

[junior void]

you saved the scene, so now it doesnt force you to do that anymore. it only needs saving once, not every time you upload. open the console window next to project and scroll up to the first red symbol message and take a screenshot of it

[nocturne wagon]

I did but it keeps saying the same message

[junior void]

what message

[knotty jay]

i'm trying to update an avi so it can be available on quest but it keeps saying validation error. i've checked the console and i didn't really see anything that could possibly make it fail

[timid acorn]

Having a problem with the Mayu. the model doesn't shade properly presumably because the mesh where the nipples would be is separate from the rest of the body to keep texture memory down while also having a nipple/no nipple toggle. How could I fix this?

[junior void]

i personally would stitch it on and use decals for the area, also saves texture memory.

[timid acorn]

so just merge the vertices then?

[junior void]

thats what i would do yes

merge and then reset/smooth vectors

[timid acorn]

would that cause issues with the crotch area? i'm not super super knowledgeable on decals but i could set it up np for the chest

[junior void]

depends how its made

if the crotch is a simple island by itself, it wont be a problem to project the decal for it flat on the texture

i personally made a matswap because of that for my avatar (not a mayu)

you could also consider just making a sfw upload and one adult version to keep em separate

so many options x)

[timid acorn]

it seems to be like this

[junior void]

hard to see but also youll have to make a choice

i cant make it for you, just tell you the options

also why are there so many bones

[timid acorn]

okok mb, there's blenshapes in place for those portions of the body, just need to add decals on top of those

am deathly ill atm and my brain is not all there but ty!

[limpid mason]

I've been out of the avatar creation scene for a while and I'm just looking to get an idea of the "norm" for avatars nowadays.

Is it typical for a single avatar to have multiple outfits to toggle between? Or is it preferred to have multiple avatars, each with a single outfit?

[junior void]

Most people go the lazy route and just slap everything in one avatar

I dont think i need to explain why thats not the best option

[limpid mason]

Ty, and indeed you don't, I thought that might be the case but I was intrigued whether the systems were somehow compensating for this

Here's another question, if anyone knows the answer. If a mesh is disabled in unity (be it in the project or via a toggle), does it's contents still use any vram? Or is it essentially inert until active? Don't worry, that's been answered for me

[mellow arrow]

hey so, this is my first time doing this so a need a bit of help
im trying to add clothes to an avatar that should fit it since it was made for the base, but I cant even figure out how to get the clothing into unity itself. the file is an .fbx file I dont know if that matters or not

[junior void]

theres no unitypackage?

[mellow arrow]

no

[junior void]

well you can just drag the fbx into your assets

after that youll have to add it to your avatar in scene and "link" the armature, preferably with a non destructive tool like vrcfury

[mellow arrow]

how do I add it to the avatar in scene..?
this is what I see atm

[junior void]

It doesnt appear to have an armature which means you will have to add this using blender

[mellow arrow]

🙃
alright thank you

[round fractal]

Im using 2022.3.6f1 for the Toon Standard shader and i dont wanna switch versions bc 2022.3.22f1 doesnt have it. Which version does have toon standard?

[gaunt knoll]

Can you please read that message again

[gaunt knoll]

Unity lit toon standard is on all of them

[round fractal]

alr, ty 🙏

[gaunt knoll]

But also it asking you to update your sdk

Not your unity

[round fractal]

im not the brightest when it comes to differenciating them

[gaunt knoll]

It's on cc

[round fractal]

alr!! ty gang

[somber sequoia]

.6 has an annoying memory leak too

[trim edge]

im trying to make a pair of doctor gloves for an avatar im making, someone mentioned to duplicate the hand mesh, scale it up and slap a latex thing on it but after i duplicate the hand mesh it doesnt show in the scene collection in blender, its still just the hand so im not sure how to make the gloves since it also duplicates the nails the body already has. any ideas appreciated

[junior void]

can you not just not select the nails?

[trim edge]

im a blender baby, i barely know how to duplicate haha

[junior void]

also, when you duplicate mesh, you should hit p to make that its own object, then it will show up. otherwise its part of the body

[vagrant summit]

Has anyone figured out why this sometimes happens when updating an FBX in blender?

[junior void]

could happen if the avatar was unpacked

[vagrant summit]

uhhhhh

I only edited the fbx, nothing with the prefab

[junior void]

another reason could be if you exported with(out) apply transforms

[vagrant summit]

it does have a ! next to it

I'm not sure what that means

oh, warning experimental

I manually applied everything though, so shouldn't be a problem

[crude lantern]

heyooo!! im trying to upload an avatar for pc and quest cause it has 2 seperate versions how might i make it so people see the two seperate versions?

[somber sequoia]

if you duplicated it then it's still in the same mesh object. Select the duplicated mesh and hit 'p' to "part" it out into a new mesh object

[vapid cipher]

is it normal for mamehinata hand to go inside the body/cloth like this ?

[dusty monolith]

Thats prolly just cause its a wide outfit

[plain mural]

Can any of the physics parameters be animated?

[balmy barn]

need to disable physbone before it take new values

[pale ridge]

I have two version of an avatar, a PC one and an Android/iOS one. usually when I upload, I upload the PC version first, then I upload the Android/iOS one separately. Does anyone know of a script that makes it so I can specify which avatar to upload to each platform in a single click?

[lilac musk]

That's a default feature of the VR chat SDK

[idle thicket]

Hello, I think I have a question for something very advanced.

On my avatar I have an animator that is not apart of the VRC Animator Descriptor (The avatar has two seperate character so to speak on the avatar, I wanted to see if I could create a Stand from JJBA for fun) and I wish to change parameters on this animator with the animator/animations of the main avatar. VRC Avatar Parameter Drivers do not work for this sadly, I have already tried that. I am looking for ways to change the parameters of this separate humanoid rig and animator via the VRC Menu, or something else I can do to achieve a similar effect of having animations play on this separate rig of my main avatar.

[pale ridge]

Sorry, I don't think I specified enough. I meant that when I try to multi platfom upload for all platforms, I can only select one avatar. i want to be able to do the multi upload but have two different avatars selected for specific platforms

so once its done with the windows upload and switches to android or ios, it will select a different avatar for upload automatically

[somber sequoia]

I'd strongly suggest combining those things in the "extra" animator into your FX animator, it'll make things easy.

[balmy barn]

cant send parameters to other animators only worlds can - animate everything from root of avatar

[idle thicket]

Wouldn't then that just animate the primary rig rather than the seperate character?

[somber sequoia]

it'll animate whatever you tell it to animate

[pale ridge]

ok, turns out im really stupid and havent noticed the little 3 dots after months of avatar making

[somber sequoia]

you can't use the humanoid muscle animation stuff on anything not the actual avatar anyway, so you'd just be doing bone rotations

[idle thicket]

I'll give combining go... it might work, if I can specify to animate the other humanoid rig.

It did not work.

[void socket]

anyone use krita? i cannot figure it out and i need help!

[nocturne wagon]

Can I stream to someone and can they help me navigate how to upload my first avatar to vr chat (Im alr have everything installed I just need help doing it cause idk why its not working

[mellow arrow]

So, I was able to get my asset connected and rigged properly to the avi I wanted to add it to, in blender
How the heck do I get it back into unity now?

[somber sequoia]

file -> export -> export FBX, set "apply scalings" to "FBX All" and uncheck the option about leaf bones under "Armature". Save the file into your Unity project.

[stable citrus]

Just make sure that you have all the necessary packages in your project, open the VRChat SDK panel, and log in to your vrc account. You should then be able to download your avatar.

[mellow arrow]

wait, I got it!

the only issue i seem to be having now is, the asset itself doesnt seem to have the same lighting as the avatar is there a way to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

use the same object for the 'anchor override' on all your mesh objects. For avatars I usually use the chest bone.

[mellow arrow]

how exactly do Ido that? this is my first time doing this kind of thing haha
where can I find the anchor override so that I can change it

[somber sequoia]

in mesh objects, under "Probes", you drag the chest bone in there

[mellow arrow]

okay last question, where do I find mesh objects?

[somber sequoia]

in your project, in the hierarchy somewhere, I have no idea what your project looks like.

(mesh is the part of the 3D model that you can see, vertices, edges, faces, that sort of thing.)

[mellow arrow]

okay, I was able to figure out and ive changed it
however, the lighting still looks broken

[somber sequoia]

if you want help with that, of course you'd need to describe what you were hoping it'd look like, what you think is broken, and possibly show images.

[mellow arrow]

right so, this is what the shading is looking like right now. i added armor to the avatar. I just want the lighting on it to look normal.

[somber sequoia]

are you using the same shader, with similar or same lighting settings?

[lavish cosmos]

Try this. Click the armor. Open up the material in the inspector panel. Under lighting setting change Toon to realistic.

[mellow arrow]

how do i get to the inspector panel?

[mellow arrow]

it should be, but im unsure how to check that. I did use pumpkin to put on similar lighting that the avi already had, onto it though

[somber sequoia]

I suggest basic tutorials which go over how to use shaders and materials

I don't know what pumkin's tools has to do with lighting, but I think it can do a lot I'm not aware of

[nocturne wagon]

I alr did this

thats why im having the problem

😭

[stable citrus]

What's the problem then, did you get any errors in your console logs or anything ?

[nocturne wagon]

yeah it keeps saying this

thats why Im asking if someone can watch my stream and show me how to fix it

cause idk what this means at all

[balmy barn]

scroll up on those errors if you have more red ones, those you have there pretty generic

[somber sequoia]

"missing script"

[nocturne wagon]

so where do i get it

[stable citrus]

Make sure to follow the upload instruction of the avatar

[somber sequoia]

you need to figure out what it is first. Check the documentation provided by the creator of the avatar or whatever props you have

[nocturne wagon]

alr

alr it started uploading but

now it says this

[somber sequoia]

I recommend taking a look at the console for more details

[somber sequoia]

unsupported shaders is certainly going to prevent building

[nocturne wagon]

how do i fix it

[somber sequoia]

use Quest-compatible shaders instead of whatever you are using. This one is pretty well covered by quest avatar tutorials

[nocturne wagon]

i didnt make it i bought it 😭

[somber sequoia]

doesn't really matter, you still need to do it if you want to use it on quest/mobile

[little inlet]

Can anybody walk me through how to upload this avatar with my hud on it? Normally, I have my friend do it but she’s going through some stuff right now and I don’t wanna bother her.

[hexed leaf]

Okay I’m in desperate need of assistance. Can be been trying nonstop to add a tank today to a character in blender but whenever I move it to unity it doesn’t work.

[primal spruce]

anybody know how to upload a .blend into unity?

[light charm]

download blender
unity cannot read blend files unless you have blender installed

[flat wraith]

im trying to make a png avatar with expressions but i dont know how i would make the actual expressions in blender like make them shape keys with the plane is there anyway someone could show me?

[primal spruce]

also what shaders are quest comp? (trynna find a shader that looks good on pc and quest)

[timber wharf]

@primal spruce basically nowadays its pointless to go for anything other that standard lite or toon standard

first one being realistic/pbr and second one being toon (poiyomi/liltoon) replacement

[primal spruce]

How do i even get toon standard? I got the new version of poyomi and i dont even see it

[timber wharf]

what. its in latest sdk for sure

poi has nothing to do with it

[chilly inlet]

ive been trying to make the Avatar Descriptor work but it wont show up

i dont know how to fix it

[timber wharf]

what

i see descriptor

looks fine

[chilly inlet]

no thats the model

the pos is the model itself

theres not grey dot

[timber wharf]

🤷‍♂️ what

enable gizmos ie right-topmost icon on 3d preview if youre trying to set viewpoint

[clever matrix]

whenever I've tried installing the latest version of unity vrc allows for avatars, this program keeps popping up in my antivirus every 30 seconds or so
is this a normal program and a false positive, or something more malicious?

[chilly inlet]

can you show in the screenshot or show a picture in unity on where this is

[timber wharf]

nah im on phone

[chilly inlet]

oh alr

i go it

[worn kiln]

TrendMicro.....common for false positive so you can safely ignore if you know what you are doing.

[clever matrix]

I've just tried to install unity 2022.3.22f1, nothing else
so assuming it's a false positive?

genuinely the only thing that's stopped me upgrading from an older unity version

[timber wharf]

@clever matrix alternative to being false positive is shady 3rd party antivirus being able to spot the issue first in two years. so ye.

that version of unity is vulnerable though but not for vrc content, only standalone apps

[stray trench]

how would i go about a physbone toggle? i didnt see the option for this in vrcfury

[night ember]

why not just manually make the toggle instead of relying on fury

[stray trench]

if i knew how to do that i would be doing it instead of asking this question

i assumed it was possible and i just missed something, if thats the only way then ill just learn how to do it the normal way

[night ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtSg6_W07Y

[gaunt knoll]

you cant toggle physbones in fury

[stray trench]

thats what i was thinking, but i found a reddit thread making it seem like you could

thank you

[night ember]

you could technically by toggling the object but thats it

[stray trench]

thats what i was thinking of doing, just making a copy of the mesh without the physbones

[gaunt knoll]

true truee

[stray trench]

itd only add 4k polys and im lazy

[gaunt knoll]

yeah if their connected then you would have to do that

[round fractal]

for an object toggle off
have a blendshape that scales it down into the main mesh
object toggle (make it set to off)
scale (target the bone you want) and do 0, make sure the bone is animated

im not the best at describing so sorry if it doesnt work in the order i told /_\

[somber sequoia]

it's better to export your model to .fbx anyway.

[limpid cargo]

all shaders in vrchat > mobile

well, not all

but most

[night ember]

but just put the physbone component on an empty and put the root bone in it?

[stray trench]

oh thats way smarter

[spark gulch]

Does anyone know how to upload an xps file as an avatar

[somber sequoia]

xps? isn't that like a document format?

[spark gulch]

This is all the files for the model i'm trying to use

[somber sequoia]

well the .tga files are image files

last I checked xps is a document

where'd you get this?

[spark gulch]

https://www.deviantart.com/sticklove/art/Roxas-805278619

[timber wharf]

blender def can, did that

[somber sequoia]

ah cool

[spark gulch]

I have other models if that wouldn't work

[frigid void]

what should i do is the avatar "isnt in t-pose", the avatar is t-pose and the only bones that are red are finger bones. I havent moved the fingers in blender at all and im not sure how to fix that

[night ember]

theres an entire enforce tpose button

[frigid void]

where is it? sorry theres a lot on the screen and im not seeing it

[night ember]

scroll down rig tab in unity

[frigid void]

found it, thanks so much!

[primal spruce]

what do i do when my project no longer shows VRChat sdk? 😭 i cant even upload no mo

[silent hearth]

Trying to upload an avatar and keep getting this error message, I've tried using Google Gemini which recommends deleting the library folder which didn't help. Any help would be appreciated.

[somber sequoia]

look for errors in the console

[somber sequoia]

is that the only error message?

[silent hearth]

This one as well

[somber sequoia]

Ok post the first 2-3, summaries are fine, no need for the full messages.

[silent hearth]

It fixed itself, I used a picture from my desktop as the thumbnail pic instead of capturing one within Unity.

Quite strange

[mighty widget]

what does this mean

[somber sequoia]

nothing useful - always look at the first errors in the console, not the last.

I cannot emphasize that enough times, it's so often missed.

[mighty widget]

this then

[errant comet]

In this case they are showing all errors. Just attempt uploading a second time

[mighty widget]

Ive attempted 4 times

[somber sequoia]

that second one is the issue

[mighty widget]

ty how do I fix it?

[somber sequoia]

look in your avatar descriptor to find the parameters file, make sure it exists and has what you want in it

[mighty widget]

I founbd it but im not sure which one to use

only 3 avaliable

[stable citrus]

missing script, Blueprint ID not clear and much more

[mighty widget]

That is normal, im doing pc so I dont need blueprint

[somber sequoia]

the blueprint ID message is a side-effect, ignore it and fix the root cause

[mighty widget]

Im guessing I do RepelParam pc version?

[somber sequoia]

it's your avatar, we don't know what parameters you need.

[mighty widget]

Its not mine

Im uploading it

[somber sequoia]

it's your project then.

[mighty widget]

But I dont know

[stable citrus]

I noticed this with some of my avatars too, but I don't know since when the SDK has been giving this kind of error, which is only vaguely related to the underlying problem, if at all.

[somber sequoia]

roughly 3.6ish I think? I forget exactly.

again, always look at the errors starting from the first, not last.

[stable citrus]

It's really lame, it still hasn't been fixed since then ?

[somber sequoia]

what's to fix?

[mighty widget]

figured it out lawd that is tedious

so glad my pc can handle opening more then 1 project tho

nvm it did not workl

[stable citrus]

the fact that it constantly gives the same error message Loaded data for an avatar you do not own when the real issue is unrelated to this message

[somber sequoia]

it's an accurate error though, just not the root cause

[mighty widget]

gulp...

[somber sequoia]

I suspect trying to suppress that when it isn't the root cause is more trouble than it's worth.

[stable citrus]

Oooh

[mighty widget]

This is not my fault

[shadow agate]

would someone be so kind as to post the build report .png at me again

can't remember where to find it

[primal spruce]

why is my loading process always getting stuck on this?

[devout fulcrum]

is there a way to disable culling with the standard (specular setup) shader

[ornate stump]

No. Custom culling must be done with supported shader.

[ornate stump]

If you can edit the mesh then use solidify command on the faces.

[devout fulcrum]

is ther any shader with the same type of specular as unity?

[ornate stump]

I'd guess poiyomi.

[devout fulcrum]

yeah but something about what poyomi does with the rgb values and unity's specular are different i guess

[ornate stump]

Poiyomi has wide customizable features. I'm not sure what "The RGB values" you're referring to.

[devout fulcrum]

idk how to explain it but in the unity spec, the specular map somehow also colors the surface?

ex: the helm without specular

and with

[cerulean flax]

I've heard that it's best to keep avatar bodies as a single mesh. My toe beans are separate objects which all intersect. Is there a good way to merge this into being one mesh by fusing the toes to the rest of the foot without fusing the toes to each other? Or is the design just bad? (Using Blender)

Side question: how do VRChat avatars have their toes move with FBT? I understand that it goes off of how you've tilted the foot tracker, but how is it set up?

'

[ornate stump]

It rather looks like base reflection.

[devout fulcrum]

wazat

[ornate stump]

Just reflection based on glossiness of material. Did you actually try poiyomi shader?

[devout fulcrum]

yeah

[orchid stirrup]

Can someone gimme advice on how to properly make an avatar that has a model prebought from a store? I'm really shitty at this and i do really wanna learn but it's really fuckin hard.

[devout fulcrum]

problem is idk where to put my specular map

[ornate stump]

There is "Metallic and Specular" section on poiyomi shader.

[devout fulcrum]

ik

[ornate stump]

On the packed map.

[devout fulcrum]

i mean its kind working

but its an srgb texture

[ornate stump]

Also increase metallic

[ornate stump]

I just think another shader that work like unity standard. Try Mochie shader.

[devout fulcrum]

closer?

[ornate stump]

Not quiet yet. Probably too many slider to play with. Try Mochie shader as well.

[devout fulcrum]

this is mochie

[ornate stump]

How did you set the material?

[ornate stump]

You have to change workflow to specular.

[devout fulcrum]

wher is that

workflow has seperate or packed

[ornate stump]

Then put the texture in the metallic and see how it look.

[ornate stump]

Is the base color texture just solid black?

[devout fulcrum]

oh

set the base with the specular

thx

but why does it work with standard im wondering

[ornate stump]

Because metallic and specular fomular are different.

[devout fulcrum]

hm

[rapid mirage]

i made this really cool 3d model and im super proud of it and kinda want to turn it into an avatar

ive never made a vrchat avatar before and i am kinda worried it might not be possible with this character bc her legs work fundamentally differently to how human legs work, she has like a piston thing going on instead and i worry that that will make it just not work

shes got like a piston leg thing going on

like she has a joint at the thigh but no knee

should i like bother or will that mess it up anyway

[ornate stump]

It still requires actual humanoid bones like upper legs,lower legs, and feet. You could have the piston legs on non-humanoid bones, then you later can constraint it someway to actual human legs.

[rapid mirage]

i see

perhaps i could set up like invisible leg bones and then set up like inverse kinematics at the position of the invisible feet

so the leg-piston mechanism always points to and extends to the foot position

could that work?

no yeah thatd definitely work

i wouldnt even need to do inverse kinematics

id just have to have the thighs point at the feet and the pistons extend the distance between the thigh and the feet

thatd be easy to implement in script

[ornate stump]

Keep in mind you can't use script in avatar. All avatar logics are handled by animator states.

[rapid mirage]

oh :(

i assumed you could use udonscript

[ornate stump]

That's only for world creation.

[rapid mirage]

damn :/

[rapid mirage]

specifically the built in unity animator ? bc if so my idea probably isnt possible

[ornate stump]

Your idea might be possible by using constraint components. And FinalIK is an allowed component.

[rapid mirage]

i shall look into that

thank you

[trim edge]

still working on these gloves. So if i try to scale the glove it does not fit the hand anymore, however, if i try to inflate in sculpt mode it just goes into the hand and dissapears. im pretty new to blender so very confused and youtube isnt helping haha

[junior void]

you want to do this in edit mode so you can scale it like inflation

also you probably want to scale one hand while x mirror is enabled

otherwise you will scale it from the center between both hands and then they will offcenter themselves

[trim edge]

hmmm ill try to figure that out 😅

[junior void]

we can go step by step if you want

[trim edge]

i think i maybe figured it out

[trim prism]

can someone explian how the contacts work on the "gold plated lighter"

could i use the lighter to contact my avatar? like, setting a part of my avatar on fire for example

[somber sequoia]

Yes, just watch for Fire. docs:
https://creators.vrchat.com/common-components/contacts/built-in-contact-tags

[vague spade]

can someone help me with an upload :( im stupid and new to unity
long story short heres whats happening:
i got a new avi but it doesnt have the normal "open me" package so im confused what to do. when i try to put the avatar, it puts it in prefab and wont allow me to upload. idk what to do since i tried putting it in "hierachy" but when i do im "missingf assets".
if anyone can help id be very happy and would make my year (get it :p)

[lyric sonnet]

gogo loco just breaks my avatar, it's not letting me add it, when i do add it it breaks all my toggles, my face and gogo doesn't even work

[ornate stump]

Click on the error said "Exception:... " there might be some more detail written down below.

[ornate stump]

What does it mean "not letting you add it"?

[lyric sonnet]

it leets me add it but when i enter play mode my avatar is frozen in place and everything is broken

[ornate stump]

How did you add it? And what avatar pose is when it's frozen?

[stable citrus]

Do you a least get a pop-up with VRCFury saying that an error has occurred with gogoloco or something?

[lyric sonnet]

i dragged the prefab onto the prefab i had in the scene and the arms are sort of infront of him

[lyric sonnet]

not at all

[vague spade]

It just says I’m missing middle finger and other poses

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot instead of typing out?

[vague spade]

Im so confused with this :( it’s usually simple to upload and this one’s just wack

One sec lemme get back on

[ornate stump]

What does avatar do when you added it? How is it frozen?

[vague spade]

It might be cuz of me. I slid it into « hirarchy » because I can’t just add it cuz it’s a prefab file

[somber sequoia]

can you show where this is in the hierarchy?

[ornate stump]

Screenshot where you added it on hierarchy then.

[lyric sonnet]

like that, then toggles break and gogo doesn't work

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the entire unity screen when testing in playmode?

[lyric sonnet]

it is in play mode

[ornate stump]

Screenshot the entire screen instead.

[somber sequoia]

this is difficult.

[lyric sonnet]

wait

[somber sequoia]

Open up your avatar (in the hierarchy) so we can actually see whats inside it

[ornate stump]

Is it actually standing pose or T-Pose?

[vague spade]

when i exit from prefab i lose all my character. lemme show

[somber sequoia]

wow that's a lot of parts

[lyric sonnet]

what does this mean?

[somber sequoia]

there is nothing in this scene

[vague spade]

ik and i canrt get it to have anything </3

im so confused TvT

[somber sequoia]

put your avatar into the scene?

[ornate stump]

You have to edit the avatar by putting it in the scene. Editing via prefab editing is wrong.

[somber sequoia]

follow one of the many many setup tutorials.

[vague spade]

lemme show what happens when i put it into scene cuz it popped the error i first showed

[ornate stump]

It already explain in plain English though.

[lyric sonnet]

my english is not that good i'm sorry

[ornate stump]

When you're in playmode, that avatar became for testing only.

[lyric sonnet]

ohh, is there a way to fix it?

[ornate stump]

just not be in playmode.

[lyric sonnet]

so once i upload it should fix itself?

[ornate stump]

no, that's irrelevant.

[somber sequoia]

no - you have to put your avatar in the scene

[lyric sonnet]

so what you are saying is that the avi is just not fixable

[somber sequoia]

that is not at all what has been said

[ornate stump]

No. It wasn't even a problem.

[lyric sonnet]

but i asked if it'll be ok if i upload it

[somber sequoia]

and I told you want to do

twice

[ornate stump]

Are you still in playmode?

[lyric sonnet]

no

[crude moat]

Is there a way to make something appear only through other specific material? I know it's possible to do it with Renderer Queue but when doing that there is a risk that other avatar or world itself will have some unusual renderer queue number and it will show up through them too

[ornate stump]

Screenshot the entire unity screen and show that component to confirm.

[somber sequoia]

stencils probably

[ornate stump]

This doesn't show the component saying the issue.

[lyric sonnet]

that's the thing i checked everything and nothing has any errors

[ornate stump]

So this is no longer there?

[lyric sonnet]

nope

[ornate stump]

See? I said just to not be in play mode and it will disappear.

[ornate stump]

If you just delete the Gogoloco object, will it work?

[lyric sonnet]

no then it just puts my avatar in the floor but then toggles work

[ornate stump]

Keep the gogoloco out for now. What did you put in playable layers in avatar descriptor?

[crude moat]

I didn't figure it out yet but from what I've seen so far I think that may be what I was looking for. Thanks

[dusk elk]

Can someone help me export the mayu spp? Its only exporting the head and I dont know why

[junior void]

You mean textures?

Show your current export settings

[finite patio]

just yesterday I started getting these warnings and my unity wont upload any of my avatars- my unity version is 2022.3.22f1 so I thought it was fully updated? I also updated the VCC but still getting these errors

[junior void]

This message talks about the sdk version

Not unity or vcc

The sdk package

[finite patio]

how do I update that?

[junior void]

In vcc click 'manage project'

Update sdk base and avatar package there

[finite patio]

ooooo I see I see, thank you!

[slender bronze]

Heyo, anyone got experience with Blender who might be able to help with avatar creation issues? I have this skirt, and I was just about to start adding bones to get some weight-painting going, but realized that the skirt is kinda... out far. And rigid. Since the bone would end up following the structure of the skirt, would the skirts "default" position, be this really rigid pose? Does anyone know how to potentially fix that?

[junior void]

With cloth sim or gravity involved the default position won't be rigid like this

Imo the position is something to worry about later. You can always pose the skirt once it's rigged too if you really must

[slender bronze]

Bless, thank you. It's a vroid model that i'm re-rigging cause I messed with a bunch of proportions in blender. So when I noticed this I thought I was in for a world of hurt. When it comes to "cloth sim" is that something that needs to be applied? Or is that something that will come with the weight painting/armature/colliders when I get to the unity segments? (Thank you for your help)

[junior void]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/class-Cloth.html

Another option is to use phys bone with angle limits

Regardless, know that you will never get it perfect

Here's an example of how someone else handled a short skirt #avatar-help message

[dusk elk]

1 sec

Im doing this mayu for a commission and if you know how to fix it Ill actually be over the moon

[junior void]

'Oyama' seems to be the body. I'm not sure what you mean it's only exporting the head

It looks like head and body are on one texture

[dusk elk]

Yes but I dont kow why its only exporting the head part

This is my frist time working with a mayu

So forgive me if I sound dumb

[junior void]

Show me what you mean only the head

You mean the rest of the texture is black or what?

[dusk elk]

Yeah I mean I can show you in DM's if thats okay, I dont want their texture in the server

[junior void]

Sure idc

[surreal salmon]

anyone know how to setup poiomi shader to add a spackle to the avatar?

i wanna make my avi sparkle but am not sure how

[grand scaffold]

The poi docs will give you instructions, I belive it's called 'glitter' specifically

[limpid cargo]

in poiyomi shader
special fx > glitter/sparkle

check the poiyomi document here for configuring it https://www.poiyomi.com/special-fx/glitter

[crude moat]

Can someone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? I'm trying to make white material display only over parts of the black material that are in front of it. What I wanted to happen is first shape of black material is put into stencil buffer and then white material replaces black material in places where stencil test passed but ztest failed. But it's clearly not happening. No matter what I set in stencil zfail nothing changes(even when I put zero).
Shader is poiyomi 9.2 if that matters.

[somber sequoia]

note that the Poiyomi discord is a good place for stuff like this too

[crude moat]

Thanks. Seems really obvious but I didn't think of that XD

[somber sequoia]

it happens 🙂

[round comet]

This is random but anyone got any ideas for springy names?

Like maybe something sweet or pretty

I’m making a spring avi and she has a theme of sweet stuff and pretty things (and she’s a bunny girl if that’s relevant)

There’s also a theme of strawberries and flowers

I’m srsly blanking on a good name for her

[mellow vigil]

"Myra" comes to mind

[round comet]

Oo I actually like that!

I’m coordinating a little list because I’ve been so void of ideas

[mellow vigil]

its greek rooted for sweetness I think

[round comet]

WATT wait I love that

[mellow vigil]

Does anyone have any tips on how to make a proper outfit swap toggle? or a system that turns one outfit off automatically when another is turned on?

the way I have it now is annoying, they all just stack on each other lol

[somber sequoia]

You could use the same variable. Or you could use VRC Avatar Parameter Driver

[chilly raptor]

hey so ive never had this problem be for so im a bit confused

[spare dome]

how do i fix this ?

[somber sequoia]

any error messages in the rig window, before you click 'configure'?

[junior void]

Avatar may not be in the slot on your animator

[chilly raptor]

wdym

[junior void]

Blue man icon avatar goes here

[chilly raptor]

its there\

[soft cliff]

not sure if this is the right place to ask, but i went to update an avatar i have uploaded and the vrc sdk just isnt there?
ive already made sure im on the most updated version of the sdk i really have no clue why its suddenly gone now

[somber sequoia]

check the console, compile errors can prevent that from happening

[soft cliff]

ran in safe mode. but im a complete novice to unity and dont know what this means or how to fix it

[somber sequoia]

looks like you might have installed packages more than once

looks like two gogo locos there at least

[soft cliff]

oh
any idea how to find the duplicate and delete it?

[somber sequoia]

also _PoiyomiShaders in your assets rather than having been installed via VCC/Alcom

[soft cliff]

im really in over my head with this i tried getting rid of the dupe and a million more errors popped up

[dire dagger]

My gogo isn’t working-

[left gull]

delete the poiyomi folder in your assets

[somber sequoia]

I'd delete that _PoiyomiShaders folder and install it via VCC/Alcom instead.

[soft cliff]

i did that and it got rid of a lot of the errors

[somber sequoia]

make sure you have the latest VRChat SDK and updated versions of other packages, such as that marker one

did you get some ancient avatar package with all this stuff included?

this is not how it should be done.

[soft cliff]

already fully updated everything

[somber sequoia]

well that marker package doesn't seem to like something about the SDK

[soft cliff]

I think so, i got the unity package from someone

[somber sequoia]

ah.

of course.

I'll just assume you've paid for any paid assets in here.

[left gull]

you're gonna get major scammers messsaging you in here so id delete your message

[pastel canopy]

gulp

[left gull]

but go to VRCTraders link in #1204490664637890580 and find a verified commissioner there

its prolly the safest place for new buyers

[pastel canopy]

okay thank you so much

[orchid stirrup]

So, i'm new to the avi making community. And i'm curious, do you need to make everything for a prebought avi model? Or does it all come finished. (I'm really slow and i really wanna learn)

[somber sequoia]

"it depends" 🙂

there are no real rules or standards, there are barely even "conventions"

[orchid stirrup]

So, in a nutshell, i got a prebought model and idk if i just upload it and it'll have all the menus

[somber sequoia]

if the person who made it set it up that way, sure

[orchid stirrup]

Well, i'll just hope. Thanks.

[somber sequoia]

but I'm the type who makes all of his own stuff in Unity for an avatar, I just use the model/texture from the creator, not much else.

[orchid stirrup]

I aspire to be like that.. one day at least

[somber sequoia]

it's a blessing and a curse

[orchid stirrup]

Also, if i have a prebought model, do i have to put the textures on everything? Ik it depends but is it mandatory for every single one?

[somber sequoia]

again, "it depends"

how "finished" is the package you got, and how much of that do you want to use?

[left wharf]

why don't you read the avi's instruction?
it should be on the store page

[somber sequoia]

assuming it has some, yeah

[orchid stirrup]

I haven't seen if there is instructions, whoops 😓

[left wharf]

ooh

[orchid stirrup]

So, i'm gonna assume i still have to apply everything here. 🫩

[somber sequoia]

I'd assume most of that is ready to go

[left wharf]

yes, you might install the requirements and import avi, then you'll be able to upload

[orchid stirrup]

I've been at this for 4 days, thank you

[spare dome]

still need help with this

[somber sequoia]

no idea - are those the firsterrors? If not, post the first 2-3.

[spare dome]

this is all there is

[west pulsar]

Can anyone help me with my avi please

[fast storm]

What's wrong with it?

[west pulsar]

I fixed it I forgot to put VRC fury on it

LMAO

[fast storm]

oh :3

that's nice then

[west pulsar]

Yeah

[trim rover]

i'm wondering if ther is a way to set up custom IKs for an avatar

spicificaly for the arms, i have an avater with an abnormally long neck and i'd like a way to translate the hand tracking down to aling with the shoulders withput having to move the view position to the neck

i know i can use VRC constraints to just copy the movements off a dummy rig (something i've don't in the past for legs) but then the grab position is off

tghere used to be a mod that let me fix these things in game but since the EAC update i've been kinda stranded on this one

[hard hatch]

is there a way to not have to manually weightpaint every single one of these 52 bones?

[trim rover]

ctrl+p apply automatic weights

it wont be perfect but it'll do most of the job

[junior void]

that setup wont work, you cant anchor a chain of physbones to 2 places

[hard hatch]

yeah ik. I realized it after I took this ss and it's fixed now

[hard hatch]

this only brings up parenting options

[junior void]

correct

[trim rover]

yes then parent with automatic weights

[junior void]

thats because an object needs to be parented under the armature in order for the armature to move the object in the first place

[trim rover]

if it's allready parented clear the parent then reparent with automatic weights

however

damn boot keeps taking down my message for typing however in all caps

however, this will clear any weight painting you have allready done

[hard hatch]

yee it also seems to have done it a little janky

some parts are weighted pretty randomly

it did really good with the chains tho!

[trim rover]

unfortunatly the featire is a bit iffy especally if the mesh is made a bit funky

[trim rover]

oh good

yah ok i knew it would mess up the rest

[hard hatch]

i would much rather have to tweak the weights on the larger bits than painstakingly weight each bone for the chains by hand XD

[trim rover]

that's why i was trying to type however in all cpas as a warning

[hard hatch]

ahh i see

[trim rover]

but aparently there is a bot that prevents you ftom typeing in caps and didn't let me send the warning untill after you tried it

[hard hatch]

lmao sounds about right

so it did the weight on the chains good, but screwed up just about everything else 😭

it's not that badbecause the rest of the bones are pretty simple and easy to do by hand, but still a little troublesome

[solar sand]

I salute anyone who has to manually weight paint every single bone when rigging 🫡

[frigid void]

I don’t know how to get rid of the issue, when I go to configure, it says the avatar isnt in tpose, so I enforce tpose then click apply, but then nothing happens and the error is still there, plus when i went back into configure the avatar “wasn’t in tpose” again

[solar sand]

Ok so

[frigid void]

also the avatar is in tpose, but according to unity its only a few of the finger bones that are red, but Im not sure how to fix that since I haven’t touched the finger poses

[solar sand]

Go back into configure and reset the pose

Then click enforce tposr again and reapply

That’s typical when first imperiling a fbx into unity

[frigid void]

same thing, the error is still there and it still says not in tpose when i go back into configure

[solar sand]

SS?

[frigid void]

Whats ss?

[solar sand]

Screenshot

Also what is the error message some of them don’t actually matter

[frigid void]

so it does what its supposed to when i click enforce tpose, but then i apply it and it doesn’t stay

[solar sand]

The second one is correct

[frigid void]

Im not sure where to see it, its not showing up in the console

[solar sand]

Then don’t worry about it

[arctic ginkgo]

it shouuld be fine, it doesn't actually have to be perfectly in t-pose

[frigid void]

I know, but applying it doesn’t seem to be working because it keeps going back to the first image

[solar sand]

Yeah

Do you click the apply button before leaving

[frigid void]

I thought so but now that Ive done the animations and went to test the avatar, it was stuck in tpose and the toggles weren’t doing anything (im using Avatars 3.0 emulator)

[frigid void]

yes i keep clicking applly

[solar sand]

Try importing the fbx

Bruh I hate phone keyboards so much

Reimport

[frigid void]

lol

Ive done that a few times and every fbx has the same error

[solar sand]

Hmmm

I’ve never seen it not apply

It always just does it no matter what

[frigid void]

This has never happened before, and Im using assets and models ive used in previous avatars so Im not sure whats different

[solar sand]

Legit might just be the project file getting corrupted

Try a new project file and don’t worry about importing anything else just see if the fbx works in it

Then we will know if it’s unity or the fbx itself

Cuz fuck unity

I’ve had some legit fucked unity bugs where I had to dig into unity files and into the code to see what the fuck was going on

[frigid void]

Unfortunately it looks like it the fbx, cuz same thing is happening in the new project

[solar sand]

Yeah ok

[frigid void]

I really wish it would just tell me what the error is, instead of just saying theres an error cuz its not showing up in the console

[solar sand]

Hmmm that’s weird

I’ve never encountered it maybe try remaking it in blender with just the head hair and body

Other than that idk what else it would be never had unity reject to tpose something

[frigid void]

Is there possibly a way to get true tpose in blender? I honestly don’t know why its just this avatar because I always use Pandas v1 femal base and Ive never had this issue

[solar sand]

Ummm not that I know of

[frigid void]

Turns out it was because the head was named “head”, stupid

[cosmic temple]

guys i havent made a model since last year and ive completely forgotten the optimization steps how do i fix these

[solar sand]

Lolll yeah

[solar sand]

That would do it

[timber wharf]

@cosmic temple just resize panel and youll see autofix buttons

[solar sand]

You should just be able to auto fix all of that

[cosmic temple]

ooh i see.

thanks guys

[solar sand]

Np

[stray trench]

anyone able to help me figure out why my face tracking wont work? it works on other avatars and used to work on my version of minase but i must have broken something along the way

i tried reimporting the FT prefab, i double checked i have all necessary components, i tried making a completely new project with only the avi base and the FT asset

i can see the FT is working in the debug menu

[cosmic temple]

i lost my irises after restarting unity 😨

nvm fixed it

wait what

[stable citrus]

Which prefab is your model compatible with ?

[stray trench]

im using one from osian

https://ocian.gumroad.com/l/ctspu

im racking my brain but i cant figure out what im forgetting, i thought i remembered i had to do a patch but the instructions for this dont mention it

[cosmic temple]

how do i import a newer version of SDK to unity?

[stable citrus]

Sorry I meant which FT prefab: Unified Expressing, ARKit and ect...

[stray trench]

ah my bad ill double check

[stable citrus]

VCC

[cosmic temple]

ooh i see now

ty ty

[stray trench]

i believe its UE

[stable citrus]

Okii, Import Av3Emulator and in Play Mode try if all/most of the Face Tracking blendshapes work as intended

[stray trench]

it looks like the blendshapes arent there in play mode

it also isnt allowing me to move the blendshape sliders, is that normal?

[stable citrus]

Inside the Av3Emulator game objects form for the hierarchy, emulate float things.

I'll try to show you how asap or send me a screenshot so I can navigate you

[stray trench]

does this help?

[stable citrus]

User Input

[stable citrus]

That's it
Don't forget to enable FT with the menu on the top just like in-game

[stray trench]

none of them seem to have any effect

and i do have it enabled in the menu

[stable citrus]

Then it's probably not using UE prefab

[stray trench]

how would i be able to tell? i thought id seen it mention UE somewhere

[cosmic temple]

uhh..

guys i think i need a lil help

i published my vroid avatar but for some reason the irises are gone for everything except for my crawling/sleeping pose

[stable citrus]

Try playing with the blendshapes directly without being in PlayMode.

[stray trench]

these all work normally

[stable citrus]

If the FT blendshapes work normally, then it's 100% that the UE prefab is not the one to use.

[stray trench]

im confused because they worked previously

[nimble zenith]

Does anyone know why when I go to calibrate it tposes for like 1 frame then like cancels out ?

[stable citrus]

Then try reimporting the avatar package as the original stated.
Careful to save your edited version of the avatar.

[stray trench]

i tried that, i made a new project and imported the base avi and then the FT asset and that didnt work either

[stable citrus]

Damn, does the avatar package already come with the Adjerry FT package or you do have to import it yourself

[stray trench]

i import it myself

[stable citrus]

In this case just try the other FT Prefabs individual with Av3Emulator in Play Mod, as you did previously.

[stray trench]

alright, thank you :)

[stable citrus]

Lmk if you manage to fixed it

[junior void]

i had a similar issue the other day, ft wouldnt work but it was due to the ft module not working

are we sure this is due to something on the avatar?

[stray trench]

my other avis i add ft to work fine

[junior void]

ok so does the "ft enable" button work in unity? does it toggle the parameter correctly?

[nimble zenith]

nvm figured it out

[hazy quest]

Can you animate/toggle "Hue Shift" found in Toon Standard on Quest?

[thin otter]

my avatars that im trying to upload are stuck on "Server Processing"

[pulsar comet]

I'm having a similar problem, is this something on VRChat's end?

[worn kiln]

https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2007097385982578903/

[bleak latch]

does anyone know how to properly link armatures, I made a pair of socks in blender for this avatar, and transferred weights, it works fine in blender and follows the leg exactly, but it doesnt export with armature in unity. I've tried everything I can think of, and have even gotten help from others.

i export it as an fbx, and it only exports with the model, even though I have the armature selected and toggled and stuff within blender

[junior void]

peraps the socks are part of the body mesh?

show us what youre seeing

[bleak latch]

in blender, unity or etc

[junior void]

blender

[somber sequoia]

if you're working in blender already and unless you really really need it to have a separate armature, like to export it to share with someone else, just use the avatar's armature

[bleak latch]

how do I do that?

[somber sequoia]

make the socks' armature modifier point at the avatar's armature, and drag it to be a child of that armature

[bleak latch]

okay wait, i didnt think of that

[somber sequoia]

(join with the rest of the clothing into one mesh on export, etc., etc. optional, but for efficiency purposes)

[bleak latch]

idk what i did lol, but now whenever i edit the rig in pose mode the legs dont follow but the socks do

[somber sequoia]

sounds like incorrect weight paint

[bleak latch]

i remember what i did, lemme undo it

[junior void]

rather like armature mod on base broke

[somber sequoia]

could be

oh - yeah I misread that, I should know better than to read stuff quick before I've finished my coffee

[bleak latch]

i fixed it

dw

[bleak latch]

im more of a tea guy

lol

[somber sequoia]

I also enjoy tea

[bleak latch]

nice, what kind?

[somber sequoia]

yes.

[bleak latch]

lol

[somber sequoia]

usually jasmine green or genmaicha

[bleak latch]

i cant do the overly flavored tea, like added honey and mint and stuff

but anyways, I got it following the rig again in blender

[somber sequoia]

execllent

[tame badge]

How do you remove the... the only way I can describe it is 'Invisible detail mask' from a model?

[bleak latch]

doing what you said

[tame badge]

Like... the madel behaves as if every material attached to it has an invisible, unremovable detail mask layer

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what that could be

[bleak latch]

yeah same

[junior void]

normals? screenshot?

[tame badge]

Well you can see here its UVed correctly

Yet even with only the texture applied, no normals, detail mask, reflections... it has a 'blend'?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what you're even referring to here

[bleak latch]

idk, maybe try using a dif shader like poiyomi

or vrc shaders

[junior void]

could it be only quest shaders

vertex colors?

[bleak latch]

how can i preserve this though?

Still exporting to unity doesnt change anything, I could just be applying it wrong

[haughty plaza]

Question about animator controllers, I'm rusty so I could use some help getting this working proper. So I have 3 animations, Indi (my character) pulling out his 3DS, him playing the handheld, and him putting it back. I figured I'd reference vrc's emotes and make an animation controller like that, and it isn't working the way I'd hoped. Here's a video, I expect him to (obviously) not be doing anything until I activate the toggle, he blends into that first animation and then the second, and then upon disabling the toggle it plays the 3rd animation and resets to doing nothing.

[tame badge]

Nah the smeering is happening on all shaders. Are Vertex colors easy to remove?

[somber sequoia]

what's your question?

you'd probably have to show how you have it setup too

[bleak latch]

how does it look in unity?

if its just a prop thats toggled on and off it should be pretty easy to fix

[haughty plaza]

Well I accidentally turned my question into that whole tangent, oops!

[chilly raptor]

hey so ive never had this problem be for so im a bit confused

[tame badge]

I... deleted... the color attribute inside of blender and the invisible blend layer is STILL THERE!

I don't even understand why any dev ever would want this. Part of the texture baked into the mesh itself!? Why?

Why would you not have everything in the material?!

[haughty plaza]

It works! I just figured it out

[chilly raptor]

[somber sequoia]

it can be pretty useful, keeping data with the model rather than requiring an extra mask texture

[jovial rune]

Mono Script missing from Mayu Prefab though i installed the poiyomi shader

[junior void]

poi wont show up as missing prefab

[bleak latch]

still having issues with the socks, this is what they look like in blender

in unity its just a single objectr

[jovial rune]

Then what would Mono Script refer to

[ornate stump]

Does the avatar page say anything about Requirements?

[somber sequoia]

this looks correct

[ornate stump]

You're showing it as a single object.

[bleak latch]

in unity its just this, no armature or anything

[somber sequoia]

what are you trying to do, export this as a standalone object?

[bleak latch]

how should it be exported?

im just exporting it as an FBX

[somber sequoia]

what is your goal though? Is it a separate package you can attach in Unity? Or an avatar with socks on it?

[bleak latch]

id like to have it toggleable in unioty

unity*

[somber sequoia]

Yes, that's fine - my question still stands

[bleak latch]

seperate

[somber sequoia]

then you want to select the armature and mesh objects, and choose 'selected items' in the export dialog.

[bleak latch]

thats what ive been doing 3:

[somber sequoia]

then you'll have to deal with attaching the object in unity with like VRCFUry's armature link or something

not how I'd do it.

[bleak latch]

thats what ive been using

[somber sequoia]

okay

not sure why you don't have the armature in there if you exported it with the mesh and the armature modifier was on the mesh object.

[junior void]

if armature is unchecked in export setting

[somber sequoia]

also set "apply scalings" to FBX all

[ornate stump]

Was there even armature object in blender?

[bleak latch]

ok anything else?

[bleak latch]

yea, its a modifier

i think

[somber sequoia]

wait, you you have to select the armature object also

I don't see that in the image.

[ornate stump]

Modifier is modifier.

[bleak latch]

oh

[somber sequoia]

selected objects means literally that, only selected objects

[bleak latch]

so im a dumbass

[somber sequoia]

no, just new

[bleak latch]

would you look at that?

[somber sequoia]

better

[bleak latch]

im crying broo

lol

5 hours spent on ts

[bleak latch]

do i link to hips or upper leg?

[somber sequoia]

if you included the entire armature in the socks package, link to its root, which is the hips

[bleak latch]

okay

[jovial rune]

Would the VRCfury avatar tool be considered as tjd

[somber sequoia]

tjd?

[ornate stump]

What tjd?

[bleak latch]

I DID IT

shut up robot

I DID IT

[somber sequoia]

haha

[bleak latch]

it works finally

why is it getting angry at me for being expressive

its not like you guys are hearing my exclamation right next to your ear

[jovial rune]

This sorry

Auto correct is killing me

[jovial rune]

I mean this

[ornate stump]

Some avatar requirs vrcfury and sometime the author doesn't mention it so try importing it.

[jovial rune]

Okay i got it now how do i add it

[somber sequoia]

read the docs - vrcfury.com

[jovial rune]

Mbmb

Gotta reset but atleast itll work now

[tame badge]

I cleared custom normals I still have an iremovable noise layer baked into the FBX, any other idea what this could be?

Its a layer of noise smeering the entire texture, is not in the material itself, is not in the texture itself and I have been systematically deleting FBX properties to troubleshoot it and none are haing any effect.

[ornate stump]

You should take screenshot of the issue.

[jovial rune]

Is it normal to open with compilation errors

I am opening the base 2022 avatar base

[ornate stump]

If its normal people would complain about it everyday.

[bleak latch]

my file path is so confusing, because i accidentally flipped flopped them in blender, the sock left texture goes to the sock right material

lol

and im too lazy to rename anything

and my armature hips for the socks are named, the sock and the other one

[jovial rune]

What is the usual problem?

[mellow cedar]

can someone help me upload an avatar. I dont have a pc

[ornate stump]

It rather usually should not have compilation error.

[jovial rune]

Ill ignore and see what the errors are

[tame badge]

These textures are flat. The belly is 1 solid color of grey, the body is 1 color of dark grey, with a color outline.

The blending noise smeering the texture is my issue.

It is present in every material even of only the texture is applied. No normal maps, metalic layers, detail maps or anything.

I have cleared custom normal splits: no effect.
And deleted everything in the shading tab of blender: no effect.

[ornate stump]

What shader you use?

[mellow cedar]

can someeone helps pls

[tame badge]

I checked Standered, VR Chats Standered Lite, Toon Standered, toon lit, and Poi 8.0

The issue persists in all of thoes

I even checked with unlit. Same.

[balmy barn]

low resolution texture turns into a blurry mess if power of 2 is on, disable it and its super sharp , still not sure if thats what you have

[ornate stump]

Even unlit? Unlit affected affect by lighting, then surface normal should have no effect on unlit.

[tame badge]

Yes. You can see the clean, very flat texture on the left and its unlit render on the right.

[somber sequoia]

with what?

[mellow cedar]

i have a file for an avi but no pc to upload

[ornate stump]

So the question: is your texture has dimension of power of 2?

[somber sequoia]

you'll need a PC

[mellow cedar]

thats why im looking for som help

[somber sequoia]

head over to the VRC Traders discord if you want to commission someone, you'll just get scammers around here.

[gaunt knoll]

ask the creator of the avi to upload it for you

[mellow cedar]

fthey not respond

[balmy barn]

having strangers upload for you is a terrible idea and if its a bought avatar its likely breaking the tos for it

[mellow cedar]

idk wht else to do

[gaunt knoll]

ask the creator

[ornate stump]

Don't you have any friend you can trust?

[tame badge]

Its greyed out?

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the entire inspector panel instead?

[mellow cedar]

no

[ornate stump]

How unfortunate.

[mellow cedar]

well i do but they no play vrc

[ornate stump]

Do you see texture preview below that has some detail written on it?

[tame badge]

I do

[ornate stump]

Then that actually might be because of texture compression artifact.

[balmy barn]

power of 2 off and no point filter ,thats a tiny one it will be a smudge with unity default

[ornate stump]

You might have to try setting override for android and change format to ASTC 4x4.

[tame badge]

No point is indeed on, power of 2 isa greyed out I cannot do anything to it.

[tame badge]

Ok lets see

[woeful anvil]

Hey im having issues uploading this avatar can anyone help me?

[tame badge]

Better but it bleaches everything, however it seems you've put me on the right track

[balmy barn]

and you got this av from where

[ornate stump]

Then might as well try uncompressed format, start from RGB 16 bit

[woeful anvil]

I made it in vroid

[balmy barn]

funny name

[jovial rune]

When i import this article of clothing it does not automatically pair to skeleton and i can not figure out how to

[weak granite]

why the rotation axis change its position?

[ornate stump]

Because of gizmos origin point is set to Center rather than Pivot.

[weak granite]

thanks

[jovial rune]

how would I do humanoid and should i do it

[somber sequoia]

if you want vrchat to deal with all the humanoid locomotion and movements and such, you want to be humanoid

[tame badge]

A less compressed format seems to have done the trick! I suppose in larger textures the compression is unnoticeable, anyway always a pleaure to learn new things and learn more of the funtionality of my tools

[trim jackal]

does this actually improve anything at all?

[trim prism]

how do i unclamp my blendshapes? idk where the "player settings" are in unity

my blendshape just doesnt move in unity, but in blender its fine

[trim prism]

i figured out how to unclamp it, but it doesnt fix the issue, blendshape still doesnt move in unity

[junior void]

Being unable to move that in play mode indicates that an animation is controlling the value

[trim prism]

oh it wasnt in play mode, i just made another blend shape and it that one worked so idk, maybe i messed something up and the "up" blendshape was applying to basis??

ig its no biggie tho

[supple reef]

Blendtree is a cool thing, but I have a question: how can I make the animation play slowly? There are two animations for facial tattoos: appearance and disappearance

[limpid python]

Would anyone be able to tell me what shader or whatever I can use to achive space-like hair? I see it all the time but no matter what I google I can't find any info on how to do it ;w;

Someone once said something about a space cube map but idk what that is

[somber sequoia]

cube map info: https://www.poiyomi.com/shading/cubemap

the linked Unity documentation page is good too

[severe crown]

So my avatar is at this and I delete a asset

Then it goes to this after I reupload

Why does. It do this?

[somber sequoia]

because compressed and uncompressed size are different

[indigo compass]

If you are using crunch compression anywhere then I recommend not doing that. (On avatars it is just bad in general, causes stutters for everyone who loads in your avatar)
Crunch compression is generally the cause for getting caught on the uncompressed size.

[severe crown]

I dont know if im doing crunch compression

[somber sequoia]

don't unless you have to, it's CPU intensive

[severe crown]

How do I upload it then

[indigo compass]

It is one of the settings on textures

[severe crown]

I just converted it to android

As what

[indigo compass]

Click the square that shows your texture and look at its settings.

When you click it it will be highlighted in the asset window, where you can just click it to see its settings.

[severe crown]

Crunch compression is off

[indigo compass]

This is the section that matters the most.
For good settings on Android and IOS you want to click the little Android goob and the IOS tab, enable override and set the texture format to ASTC 6x6 or 8x8, if you want a further reduction is the textures size.

[severe crown]

My phone broken so forgive me my computer also won’t let me screenshot

[indigo compass]

2048 sized textures go from about 2.7MB to 1.3MB when you set it from ASTC 6x6 to ASTC 8x8, of course quality goes down but good to keep in mind.

But you might have to go through all textures referenced on the avatar as I imagine one of them might have crunch.

[severe crown]

Okay thank you!

[indigo compass]

https://github.com/Thryrallo/VRC-Avatar-Performance-Tools
I can recommend this tool for just getting a good overview of what is taking up space.

[severe crown]

Tyyyy

[hard hatch]

anyone know why unity is just blatantly excluding bones that I obviously added in blender?

i don't see any reason why it should be doing this

like it's just behaving as if those extra few bones aren't even there

[arctic ginkgo]

They aren't, there's just no endpoint. Set the endpoint to a positive Y value

Bones work differently in Blender and Unity. Unity uses single transforms, while Blender uses a head and tail. Physbones require an end point, and that will end up being the "head" of the last bone, since there is no tail. In order to add an endpoint, you can either set one for the physbone component at the very top, which goes based off of the last bone in each chain, or you can add an additional bone (a leaf bone)

[hard hatch]

ah okay this helped a lot, thanks!

[hard hatch]

oh i see i see

[somber sequoia]

ha, this is nice

[hard hatch]

any clue how to fix this terrible clipping?

feel like this could just be a weighting thing

[balmy barn]

the bones you have not going to work, should be more like the green

[hard hatch]

You know what, that is actually so much easier than what I have now 😭

I'll give this a shot

[junior void]

Precisely what I meant

[junior void]

Well, set your avatar humanoid

[civic rose]

Uh I did

[hard hatch]

I see what you were saying now lol. I was completely mistaken 😭

here's what I got now

[hard hatch]

okay it works perfectly now! thanks y'all 🙏

[viral knoll]

Gang how do I upload an avatar on mobile 🙏

[somber sequoia]

for mobile, you use a PC. on mobile... you don't.

[viral knoll]

My bad, how would I have someone upload the avatar for me?

[somber sequoia]

that means sharing your account credentials, really not advised.

[frigid void]

anyone know why hue shift might not be working? Its the only toggle on my avatar and ive set everything up like your supossed to, Ive double checked the animations themselves, the perameters, and making sure the layer weight is set to 1, but it doesnt work when I test it out

[somber sequoia]

is your base color white? you can't hue shift white.

Or black.

[frigid void]

its only applied to colored bases and emmisions

like the main color of my avatar is pink, so I made the hue shift animation for everything thats pinks

[somber sequoia]

should work then - show that part of the material perhaps

[viral knoll]

Good thing I have someone I can trust

Thanks for helping.

[somber sequoia]

Yeah that's a reasonable option

[frigid void]

i just forgot to add the fx to the playable layers its working now

[mellow vigil]

What do you mean by use the same variable, Im a little lost 😅

[somber sequoia]

sorry, what was this about?

[mellow vigil]

trying to get toggles to turn off when another is selected

[junior acorn]

i see

[mellow vigil]

so I dont have to mainuly turn them off when I wanna turn another one on

[junior acorn]

im new to making avatars and i dont know how to do that exactly