avatar-help

[desert vale]

Swap the numbers then

[main remnant]

That's what I said initially

[trail marten]

well shit

someone help please

[somber sequoia]

show the rig

[trail marten]

how

[somber sequoia]

but it does say what's wrong

[somber sequoia]

Ideally what it looks like in Blender and the hierarchy from the root bone (hips) down to the head, with the shoulders shown

[trail marten]

this is the asset not the the one in the heirarchy

[somber sequoia]

unity's display there is not really great

"the asset"?

[trail marten]

not this

the one here has physbones and the descriptor

[somber sequoia]

also you didn't show the bone list here, you cropped the image. Don't do that.

not sure why you have two armatures, probably don't do that either.

[somber sequoia]

ah yes - no chest. You need one.

and shoulders.

there's an ideal rig image in #avatar-rigging , for your reference

[trail marten]

breh, so basically i need everything here nothing is optional

[somber sequoia]

no

upper chest is optional, fingers/toes are

unfortunately unity says some of these are optional but vrchat says they aren't, and that ^ diagram is Unity's

[trail marten]

damn

chest and shoulders both?

[somber sequoia]

yep

[trail marten]

does the chest need to have weights or can it just be a small bone with no weights

[somber sequoia]

you don't need anything weighted

[trail marten]

fair

[glad dirge]

wth does this mean

[somber sequoia]

ooh they updated the message, very nice

Seems clear to me, what about it isn't?

[glad dirge]

huh

idk how to get sdk 3.9.0

ohh I see

[somber sequoia]

upgrade with vcc or alcom or whatever you use

[raw spindle]

its saying im using an unsupported shader, but im using that material for a damn particle 😭

[glad dirge]

Where do I find this settin

[somber sequoia]

gear icon on those layers

oh - it's in your FX animator, if it exists

[somber sequoia]

I thought this only works on actual particle systems

[raw spindle]

im using an actual particle systems

[somber sequoia]

oh huh

[glad dirge]

I can't change the weight of this one for some reason

[somber sequoia]

yeah the first on is always on. You can make an empty layer and put it there.

[glad dirge]

o halr

thank u

[trail marten]

🥳

thanks to everyone who helped

[hexed copper]

im having an issue with a pc avatar that quest users are seeing this is how quest users are seeing this model but it cant even get this bare on the pc side so im confused cause the default state is right and nothing is wrong with my animations as they are all synced any ideas?

'any ideas to how to fix this would be awesome

[trail marten]

well thats not right

the model is floating, and the arms are stuck this way

they only move a little forward

[main remnant]

Do limbs move properly on blender when you move the armature on pose mode?

[trail marten]

yeah they do

ok rebuilding avatar

[main remnant]

Oh I have a friend that is also in that TETO server. How crazy

[glad dirge]

hair won't link to the head

I've tried using armature link and setting it up via modular avatar but it ain't doing anything

[junior void]

It should have a setting what to link to

It's probably on hips by default but should be set to head

[glad dirge]

what

no I already tried that lol

[umbral oriole]

theres your problem your linking it from from the wrong plsce

change that hip and drap and drop the main parent object its all contained in

[umbral oriole]

go to the vrchat website select the avatar and delete the imposter

[hexed copper]

i forgot to delete but yes i found that

thank you so much

:)

[umbral oriole]

i could be wrong but i dont think there is a way to know how an imposter will turn out

[umbral oriole]

oh sick happy for you

[trail marten]

anyone know why my arm movements feell weird?

idk how to describe it but its not quite right

feels like the arm motions are being limited

[noble patrol]

Can someone do my vroid thing cuz I can’t do it and it’s bugging me completely I downloaded all this stuff and nothing works

Too hard for me to do I just want to use my thing

@ me when someone wants to help me out

[brittle juniper]

not exactly sure what channel i’d ask this in but just going to put it here. I’m like brand new to adding clothes/objects to avatars, how does one add bought clothes to an avatar in Unity and how do you make it a toggle? any help is appreciated!

[brittle arch]

help

ive done a few and suddenly this starts

[gusty viper]

i have my bounding boxes set correctly but the object still dissapear? i even toggled on update when off screen and it still happens, why?

[brittle arch]

nvm fixed it

[timber wharf]

@gusty viper you cant have update offscreen, thats enforced on upload or runtime or smth

[harsh thicket]

Hello
what can be the reason, why my muscle settings beeing ignored?
Especially for the hands and eyes

[ornate stump]

What kind of settings you did? Also eye bones aren't being used in the rig.

[frigid ore]

My avatar is using these blendshapes and the avatar creator says these are ARKit blendshapes and I have to apply a unity prefab for them myself. I don't know what prefab that might be though in this specific case.

[ornate stump]

But what you're trying to do?

[frigid ore]

Get facetracking to work on the avatar. It is working for other avatars for me but that's just because I knew what prefab to use (VRCFury, Jerrys Face tracking etc). It has these ARKit blendshapes. The creator is saying I need a prefab for it. I have no idea which prefab that might be so I thought i ask here.

[harsh thicket]

I use jerreys FT template, it uses these settings.

[frigid ore]

I see. I have to try it with that one then

[harsh thicket]

for the hands I just to adjust both the sliders to take effect?

[frigid ore]

Anyone know a solution to an issue where you are trying to access a radial puppet ingame in the radial menu and it immediately closes the moment you are trying to change the value?

[ornate stump]

Do not put the parameter in to the control parameter slot, only in the rotation parameter slot.

[dry gyro]

Does anyone know how to undo this? I accidentally loaded the sample project thing and everything else got removed? I still have everything in my assets folder

[ornate stump]

You have to open your saved scene from the asset folder.

[junior void]

Load your original scene

[dry gyro]

How do i do that? Forgive me im pretty new at this

[ornate stump]

Look for file with Unity icon, that's scene file. It may exist in any of the folder. The worst case is you didn't saved the edited scene, and you lost it.

[dry gyro]

I have saved, closed, and reopened the file multiple times in the past

[ornate stump]

Then it locates in any of those folder.

[ornate stump]

You rather mean closing unity then? Because if you actually mean scene file, you should have known how to reopen it.

[dry gyro]

Yeah closing unity

Yeah i cant find it

ive got a friend who has been making an almost identical avatar with me. ill just have him send me his file

[ornate stump]

Did you look in the Novabeast folder?

[dry gyro]

I did. It has the original FBX without textures but no unity project

WAIT

TYSM

i found it

[ornate stump]

That "OPEN ME" is very suspecious indeed.

[dry gyro]

It was in the open me

i forgot that folder even existed because i only needed it once

[pure thicket]

if anyone was wondering i figured it out and you CAN do this

you have two unconnected bone chains and "tie" the ends together with a constraint component

[minor trench]

bro am I just getting gaslit by the VRC SDK rn

This parameter doesn't exist anywhere it could exist

[ornate stump]

Then it likely is a sub-parameter like rotation parameter of radial puppet that has been changed back to toggle control.

[minor trench]

Checked already

I click "select" and the SDK says it's in a submenu that I've scanned over every inch of lmao

[ornate stump]

Have you ever changed control from anything that isn't a button to toggle?

[minor trench]

wdym changed control?

[ornate stump]

Changing control type.

[minor trench]

Ughhh I'm not sure

Should I just change all of them to button then back to toggle?

[ornate stump]

Right click on the Inspector tap and choose Debug. You will see raw data of each control and you should find the ghost parameter.

[minor trench]

yep there it is

Little goblin

ty lol

[umbral oriole]

as for the clothes there is the easy way and the hard way, first of all the easy way if the cloithes are made specifically for the avatar in question as in the exact avatar then all you need to do is drag and drop the clothes prefab onto the avatar in the heiarchy and then add armature link to the armature in the prefab,
fthe hard way is when the clothes arent made exactly for the avatar in question which is the case 95% of the time for western avis, you will need to do blender work or have someoe knowlegable in blender to refit the clothes to the avi

[spark walrus]

So I keep hitting Apply but it doesnt save. Nothing is getting printed to the console whenever I do as well.

[ornate stump]

Check for Import messages in the menu where you switched between generic and humanoid rig.

[spark walrus]

I figured it out- It was stupid.

Unity couldn't tell the diference between the bone 'Head' and the object 'Head'. So I renamed it

[ornate stump]

If you actually read the discussion you will see.

[warped rune]

does anyone know why i can't upload a avatar when i click build it just does nothing but when i upload for testing it works fine?

[trail marten]

what the hell?

what am i doing wrong

[ornate stump]

Some mobile shaders are meant for world. Misleading error.

[trail marten]

so what do i do

pick something from world?

[ornate stump]

Pick other shader.

[trail marten]

im currently using lightmapped and it looks like this

when i pick anything else it looks like this

[ornate stump]

Not even sure how you came with that conclusion. Lightmap, as the name implied, is for static object, which only make sense in making world, not avatar.

[trail marten]

this is my first time making a vrchat avatar so i apologize

why does part of the mesh turn black

while the rest stays textured

[ornate stump]

If you meant some parts became black, that's because of mesh vertex color. If you choose Toon Standard, it has an option to not apply vertex color.

[trail marten]

ok let me try that

[main remnant]

Any idea why the backflip animation looks so weird? Like he spins horizontally mid air. Every other animation is good. This doesn't really bother me, I'm just curious about the possible reason

[trail marten]

it worked! thanks

[ornate stump]

Is it the same in game?

[main remnant]

I suppose, I haven't checked in the actual game

[ornate stump]

I have never test gogoloco emote in unity because I always assume it should work. Which is also always fine in game.

[halcyon blade]

hihi !! no matter what i do the sdk wont take my authy codes and it says that it didnt work... any idea on why this is happening?

[main remnant]

I'll come back later if still happens in game. Again it doesn't really bother me, it's even funny, I'm just curious about why could this happen. Thanks

[ornate stump]

Maybe double check time and region settings in your phone.

[halcyon blade]

wdym by that

[ornate stump]

The coded are generated based on time. If time settings is incorrect, the code generation is also incorrect.

[halcyon blade]

they are correct

[ornate stump]

Do the code work in game and the website?

[halcyon blade]

no, i'm trying to log into my account in the sdk on unity

[ornate stump]

It's to confirm whether the code generation is working correctly, or it's the problem with the sdk itself.

[halcyon blade]

ohhhh alright, will try then, thank you!

it didnt work on the website either... it says i've attempted too many times, but i tried in my phone and it said the same exact thing

[ornate stump]

If it rate limited you, you have to wait for a few hours and try again.

[halcyon blade]

bruh

i dont get why vrchat is giving me issues, i can log in fine in any other apps :/

[main remnant]

wrong password maybe

not an avatar problem though

[onyx seal]

Hi guys! I makeshifted these shoes to fit on my Base but, the blendshapes don't allow them to sit there comfortably,

My idea was to maybe hide the feet with an alpha map, but so far I haven't been able to get the results I want, what's the ideal Poiyomi settings for my situation?
Cutout value is set to 0 by default of course

Either the toggle doesn't hide the feet at all or it gives them a texture from somewhere in the current instance, like wooden planks or stuff, no idea how to fix it

[ornate stump]

You have to mark "Animated when locked" for the Alpha Cutoff property.

[halcyon blade]

nope

[onyx seal]

wait on the map too?

[ornate stump]

I have never said the map. And the texture property can't be animated to begin with.

[onyx seal]

ahhh nvm i see what you mean now

[onyx seal]

Yeah that worked tysm ^^

[ornate stump]

<@&397642795457970181> Scammer

[main remnant]

$700

Against the rules too

[ornate stump]

So are you going to remove your message or waiting for mod to remove you from this server?

[balmy barn]

[civic hornet]

okay, I have no idea whats going on here. This avatar is a commission I finished last night, right? it has like.. 80% less stuff than some other Avali avatars I had created in the past which are also quest compatible. But for some reason, this one is over the 40mb uncompressed size limit???

I have tried everything! Compressing the mesh, compressing/lowering the resolution of textures, decimating the polygons, combining meshes, removing uneeded blendshapes. But it's STILL giving me this error! It barely has anything on it! What do I do??? I need to upload this avatar, as I had gotten $230 plus a $70 tip from the person who commissioned it.

I don't know if this is a bug or what, because this shouldn't be an issue with how little stuff is on the avatar compared to my other avatars that has WAAAY more stuff to them on quest

[grand scaffold]

I believe unity has a built in tool for checking the contents of each build and the size of each asset. I use VRWorldToolkit for worlds as it's handy but I don't think that works for avatar projects

[balmy barn]

overpaid there, if they didnt even bother optimizing it

thats alot of bones

see no reason for 11 materials either

[grand scaffold]

other way round from what I can tell, they're the person who is being commissioned

[balmy barn]

heres 2 ways you can find size of everything compressed

i use the output log mostly

[shadow agate]

so thankful to know output logs are still made for avatar builds

[civic hornet]

but like.. this avatar only has a few things to it. a clothing toggle, custom modeled arm and visor, and gogo loco. thats it.

meanwhile my other public avatar avatars has things like:

• armor + armor undersuit toggles
• multiple fully functioning guns
• LITERAL SPACESHIP TOGGLES
• 3 different outfits
• 4 different prop toggles
• gogo loco
• face tracking
• more that I can list off but too lazy to do so

they got all that and was able to be uploaded to quest no issue. but somehow THIS... this teeny thing cannot be uploaded?

[balmy barn]

if you use vrcfury ect dont trust the sdk build stats it can be very different

[grand scaffold]

Check the build report and see what's using the size 👍

[shadow agate]

in my experience
blender projects with a lot of included images bloat the model's file size
shape keys seem to be extra bloat when exported to FBX

[balmy barn]

included images only make the fbx bigger in unity , doesnt matter when you upload

blendshapes you can cut down some mb's maybne if you are using alot - mine usually see 0.5-1mb difference

[civic hornet]

what do you think I'm trying to do? this thing was made for pc and I'm trying to upload it to quest. This is the first time I had ever had this issue, as many other avatars of mine both public and private has way more too them and was able to be uploaded no problem. this thing I had actually lowered the polygons by around 70%, compressed the mesh by about 50%, compressed and lowered the texture resolution by around 60%. the 11 materials are needed due to the fact without them the textures would look very... uhh.. garbage. Seeing how the original avali base model had multiple materials, on top of the additions I made with the arm, visor, and holograms

[shadow agate]

the bones might have something to do with it but that's my only guess

[civic hornet]

shouldn't. like I said, many other avatars I had created had way more to them. including multiple outfits being placed on the avatar via vrcfury

[balmy barn]

the bare minimum for it to upload from the stats, why arent bones merged its like you added things in unity and materials can be cut down alot by merging/atlasing'

[grand scaffold]

Have you checked your build report to see what's using the most of the avatar size yet?
That's step 1 then we can look at the rest of the stats and get this avi optimised

[balmy barn]

🐧 for that price id expect min poor rating for quest

anyway youll figure it out eventually

[civic hornet]

I don't know what you mean by build report. I never had to check something like that in the 7 years I've been uploading to this platform

this is legit the first time I ever got an error like this

[grand scaffold]

This thing here that Thulen posted

[civic hornet]

build size viewer. I'll go download that

[balmy barn]

sdk could do with a build log tab, its handy to find whatever is big

[plucky hearth]

does anyone know how to do this in vrchat? (make an ik rig)

[grand scaffold]

Yeah, hopefully along with the avatar optimisation tools they've been developing they have an itemised list of asset sizes included in the SDK.

[somber sequoia]

FinalIK is about all you'll get, and it's not really clear how much of that is usable. And it's not free.

[plucky hearth]

yer i tried to use that but i got lost thank u though

[civic hornet]

like I said, merging the materials would require a massive texture atlas size. which I usually try to avoid using 4k or 8k textures for quest. ESPECIALLY when there are clothing toggles and prop toggles. can't exact atlas those as they are separate meshes that require separate materials from the main mesh

wait what? these textures aren't even being used by the avatar. why and how are they being uploaded with the build??????

I think my unity project is bugged

and hey wait.. that face tracking fbx isn't being used, either

the hell is going on???

[grand scaffold]

Even if they're referenced by a single animation or an unused mesh that's disabled they'll still get included

[civic hornet]

that mesh isn't even being used by the avatar in any sort of way. and those textures are not being controlled by any animation on the avatar

this is all that is in the avatar hierarchy. everything else is just bones and rotation constraints

[grand scaffold]

Right click on the texture and select 'Find references in scene' or something similar to that

[civic hornet]

hm.. well I think I know why the face tracking fbx is being used. doesn't explain the textures tho. I'll go digging around in each animator

[grand scaffold]

Does this not give any results?

[civic hornet]

it gives me a list of bone names (bones that have no mesh on them) as well as the base avatars with the descriptors

[grand scaffold]

The one you have highlighted looks like the most likely suspect, possibly an extra material is on an fbx but not assigned to any tris or used in an animation. But it's a start for where to begin digging

[civic hornet]

there's no extra unused materials on the avatar

[grand scaffold]

Could it be possible VRCFury is adding something when you hit build?

[civic hornet]

why would it add those textures? I never gave it the ability to do so

[frail bluff]

Im trying to make an avatar but i can’t get the animations or the colors for it

How do i fix that

[civic hornet]

it's just being used with gogo loco and the single coat toggle

[grand scaffold]

If you disable them both before building does the size go down?

[civic hornet]

could you be a bit more specific? what animations are you trying to get, and what textures are you looking for?

[frail bluff]

Im trying to get my avatar to vrchat but this is my first time and i need a animator component

[civic hornet]

I don't wanna try that. it'll cause quest toggle desync with the pc version that's already been uploaded to the users account

[frail bluff]

And i need the colors i had on it? But they won’t show

[somber sequoia]

did you do the rig setup part of the process? Usually this will automatically add the animator component

[civic hornet]

have you not looked up a tutorial for making avatars?

[frail bluff]

I have done that and i got help from friends

[frail bluff]

Huh

[somber sequoia]

assuming it's humanoid. If it isn't, you probably are going to do something much more complex and would already know this 🙂

[civic hornet]

well then check to see if the avatar's fbx is utilizing a humanoid rig, or a generic rig in unity

[frail bluff]

I made a personal clone trooper

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what that means

[civic hornet]

star wars

[frail bluff]

Its humanoid

[somber sequoia]

oh ok

[civic hornet]

hm.. check to see if the bones are correctly placed in the humanoid rig editor

[grand scaffold]

Can't you build & test without overwriting the published avi?
Unless your client is using this avi as we speak it should be okay for a few mins of desync

[frail bluff]

Ok, ima go back to blender and see what i did wrong

[somber sequoia]

it'd probably warn you about any rig issues in the build window

or in the console - probably you don't need to go back to blender until you know what's actually wrong

[civic hornet]

build and test will upload it to the user's account. I swear, vrchat should add a way to upload an avatar privately to another users account without needing to sign into their account

[somber sequoia]

I thought build and test just does that locally

[civic hornet]

no no no, not blender. check unity's humanoid rig settings

[frail bluff]

The model parts combined together, and left out the bones

[somber sequoia]

ohh well that's a problem 🙂

[grand scaffold]

Would be nice, as singing into another's account is highly discouraged as if either of you get banned you both do

[civic hornet]

well there's not really any other choice I have. the person paid for the avatar and doesn't want it public

[grand scaffold]

For worlds yeah, for avis it puts it in it's own section on the account's avatars tab where the WIP avi can be used in a non-offline vrc instance

[somber sequoia]

Ohhh that thing, right right

[grand scaffold]

Are you able to sign into your account and test it on there? Keeping it private ofc

[civic hornet]

I'd have to ask for another login code if I do that, as I still need to upload it to their account. And they're offline

[grand scaffold]

One possible workaround would be if you duplicate the project, sign out on the duplicate and detach the avatar id and upload it to your for testing this

[civic hornet]

you know what? I'll just lower those unused textures resolution size to like.. 32x32 and call it a day. I have no idea how to fix this issue as nothing on the avatar is using those textures

[grand scaffold]

You could also delete them if they're not needed

[civic hornet]

I could do that too, I suppose

that was faster than I expected. I guess it really was those textures. I still have no idea why or how they were being included, but whatever I guess. thanks for the help

[wicked fulcrum]

can someone help idk why this is happening

everytime i applay armature deform onto the wings they get fucked up and inverted

and i tried inverting the normals and that worked but the specular wouldnt be there and would insetead be on the backface

[trail marten]

can someone help, i have my eye bones like this in blender

but then they get transformed weirdly in unity and kinda disappear

[ornate stump]

It's because eye look works by rotating bone.

[trail marten]

i noticed, how can i make it work when the eyes are basically on a flat plane

[ornate stump]

Try reposition the eye bones much further back.

[trail marten]

im gonna have to take it to like infinity 💀

[vapid oar]

How do you select only the texture borders?

[ornate stump]

Infinity won't work.

[trail marten]

is that far enough lmao

[ornate stump]

Try it out.

[trail marten]

ok 10 meters works

ok now the eyes are just gone

i cant see them, they are offscreen somewherer

[somber sequoia]

I believe Blender 5 has a new feature to let you select an island border but not other islands. What it's doing there is selecting one edge, on the UV map it looks like it's two edges but it isn't really.

[vapid oar]

Yea I just had something random selected, i fucked up with exporting and my seams got deleted

I might have to update then

[main remnant]

If I want to trigger a prop animation through the menu... It should be a button instead of a toggle, or am I wrong on this? I want it to do the animation once and that's it

[somber sequoia]

sure, that'll work - buttons go on briefly, then off.

[main remnant]

I'm basically trying to make a skate prop make a jump (an ollie). I've never worked with animations that end by themselves. Is this the proper way? Or am I doing it wrong?

[vapid oar]

So do you know how youd select it in blender 5?

[somber sequoia]

I saw something about this mentioned in the changelog, but haven't looked closer, I think it's one of the select modes at the upper left of the UV window

[vapid oar]

I think im gonna try to seam it and then export and put it into my normal blender version, unless I cant do that

Doesnt it remove seams when exporting fbx and stuff?

Really dont wanna have to deal with new blender 💀

[somber sequoia]

but if you're just trying to select seams on the 3D model, then the way you had selected in that image was correct anyway

[vapid oar]

I just dont want to have to do all of that manually

[somber sequoia]

the upgrade to 5 from 4 is pretty trivial

[vapid oar]

Probably just gotta survive and do it though

[somber sequoia]

what, so you want to auto-select the edges of islands?

[vapid oar]

Well im on blender 3.6

My fav

[vapid oar]

Yeah yeah

Just because im lazy to select 3 whole objects with their own uvs lmao

[somber sequoia]

I looked into this the other day, didn't see any way to do it without a script, which I haven't decided if I'm writing yet 🙂

I misunderstood what you were trying to do

[vapid oar]

Oh my bad

Yeah im trying to do it kinda automatic

I was hoping there was like

A "select all border" or somethihng

[somber sequoia]

yep, I wanted to also, I had way more islands than you have there.

[vapid oar]

Boundaries

[vapid oar]

Yea I bet lmao, i just got 3 like that

[somber sequoia]

like.... 40

[vapid oar]

Damn you did all that?

[somber sequoia]

had to

[vapid oar]

Id actually kms

Well I better get to work then

[somber sequoia]

I needed to rearrange them a bit anyway, half of them were oriented wrong

[grand scaffold]

Tick the two arrows in the top left to sync 3d and UV selection.
Then in the 3d window select one seam in edge select mode and do g->seam
and then it should reflect in the UV window

[somber sequoia]

that's not going to select the island border

[vapid oar]

Was confused reading that

[grand scaffold]

Won't it? Surely the boarders are where the seams are unless they've been lost

[vapid oar]

Yea theyre lost

[somber sequoia]

the point is that they want to mark seams which are not currently marked

[grand scaffold]

Aaaaaaah right

[vapid oar]

I fucked up lmao

It was when I was exporting from substance I think

I did something weird and had to just keep the substance export and ditch the blender

[trail marten]

when importing the eyes spawn all the way over there, whats the issue

those small vertical lines are the eyes btw

[somber sequoia]

OOH

I found it

in the UV editor, select an island, however you like, switch to edge mode, and in the Select menu, find "bounds" at the bottom

really glad I actually looked

[wicked fulcrum]

Anyone ?

[trail marten]

it seems like the eyes are beign rotaed by 90 degrees from the bone from what i can tell, idk why though

[broken bone]

There's a Seams from Islands option. Does that not also do it?

[somber sequoia]

I don't understand what you're doing there

[wicked fulcrum]

so baically, everytime i put on the armature modifier on the wings they fuck up in a wierd way

[somber sequoia]

huh that does seem to work

[wicked fulcrum]

its not inverted normals ive tried that

cuz the specular just doesnt appear anymore once i invert them

[somber sequoia]

I can't tell what's happening here

[wicked fulcrum]

how so, sorry i dont understand

[somber sequoia]

I mean I don't see what would cause whatever is making that pink, if that's what you're referring to.

[wicked fulcrum]

not the pink thats just the materials being wierd

the mesh inverting

[somber sequoia]

does that object have all transforms applied?

[wicked fulcrum]

its not inverted normals because when i do invert the normals it doesnt fully fix

[wicked fulcrum]

i believe so let me check

oooh i see now

okay that fixed it

[trail marten]

anyone know why this might be happening

[wicked fulcrum]

thanks

[main remnant]

I don't know

[near ice]

is there a way to search for vrcfury toggles? im trying to delete some to free up parameter space but i cant find them

nvm they might be blendshapes

[cloud plover]

Anyone knows a fix?

[near ice]

nvm they're not blendshapes

[vapid oar]

When I try to convert my model into a humanoid rig it gives me that errpr

Wait I think i might know lmao

Yea fixed

Duh

[somber sequoia]

as it said - have hands, head, and feet and map them in the rig setup.

these are required for a humanoid rig

[cloud plover]

but they are all green in the rig thingie

the legs doesnt work when testing tho, but the bones are selected in the menu

[somber sequoia]

is there an error listed in the rig tab?

or in the console perhaps?

[cloud plover]

give me a sec, i'll check

[somber sequoia]

for you, you can't have a mesh object named the same as a humanoid bone, in this case Head

oh but you fixed it, good. I can read, really.

[vapid oar]

Yeah my dumb dumb self read it for the 5th time and found it out lmao

[somber sequoia]

haha sometimes you gotta read more than once

[vapid oar]

Now I got another damn problem though, i might need to fix it in blender

I set it as humanoid in unity but ig i gotta import it somehow as humanoid?

[somber sequoia]

well it's gotta be a correct rig, so you may have to go look at what bones are mapped whre

[vapid oar]

Uh let me see if this is what you mean

Does that look fine?

[somber sequoia]

you need a chest bone

[vapid oar]

Hmm

Im making a robot avatar so

Its kinda scuffed on how I did it

I dont really want the "chest" to have any bendy parts unless I have to

This is my first avatar so i dont know anything

[somber sequoia]

then don't weight paint stuff to it.

[timber wharf]

you can have empty bones

[vapid oar]

Wait I should have the bones though

[timber wharf]

neck also mandatory

[vapid oar]

I added them

Here let me show the rig

[somber sequoia]

And the shoulders should be direct children of the chest.

[vapid oar]

The shoulders are super tiny since I saw a post about how making the shoulder bones small can reduce movement for the type of character im doing

But they are there

Not sure the best way to take pics of it

[timber wharf]

show hierarchy

[vapid oar]

Here

[timber wharf]

@cloud plover win+shift+s

@vapid oar looks fine, have you tried assigning missing bones?

[vapid oar]

Not sure why they arent detected, the left foot is wrong too like wtf

[vapid oar]

No i havent did that, you do that in unity?

[timber wharf]

well ye just select whatevers missing

[vapid oar]

I might need to reimport, cause its not even tehre

But it is in blender

[timber wharf]

if its not selected then it wont be a part of a rig

tho with a proper hierarchy unity should be able to figure it out itself

[cloud plover]

@somber sequoia

[vapid oar]

How did the heirarchy look

[somber sequoia]

nothing about rigging here.

[somber sequoia]

here it says you're missing bones. Show the rig setup maybe.

[timber wharf]

@vapid oar i mean yours looks fine, idk why unity cant pick em up automatically

[vapid oar]

Like that left foot has weight and everything

Moves in blender fine

[timber wharf]

try assigning

[vapid oar]

Sorry im slow, in unity you mean?

[timber wharf]

ye

[vapid oar]

Alr

Bruh I think i found the stuff

Oh my god i think i did lmao

[cloud plover]

will in a sec, may changing body mesh cause this?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what that might mean? can you be more specific?

[vapid oar]

Yea I realized on the left of my screen it literally says all my bones, yikes

[timber wharf]

you prob want to disable leafbones on blender export. not important but you dont need _end bones

[vapid oar]

Oh alright, what does it do btw

Just a blender thing i guess?

[somber sequoia]

it's actually for other things like Unity that don't know where bone ends are

[timber wharf]

@vapid oar blender has bone's length. unity only its origin/rotation

[somber sequoia]

but for vrchat purposes, we don't need them.

[vapid oar]

I see

Stupid question about bending, i should just test it in vrchat to see which i will do. but how does bending work like if you were to pick something up from the ground

Does that act on the spine bone?

[timber wharf]

just mesh shouldnt do that, its about armature

[cloud plover]

there is multiple FBX thingies included in the unity package i imported, and i changed the mesh that was in the body with different fbx version

[vapid oar]

Im doing a stupid robot avatar so i dont know if it can even work without any bending joints in the "body"

[somber sequoia]

your body will of course bend at those joints like a human would

[vapid oar]

But I DID add some weight on the spine in the center of the body, just in case but it wont be "robot" like

[cloud plover]

ah, well, basically, it gives me the faults, and feet doesnt move with animations

[vapid oar]

Yeah its a stupid question i just havent wrapped my head around a robot body just yet, we'll see

[somber sequoia]

you probably don't want to be swapping meshes like that, drag the whole avatar model file into the scene and use it as-is. If that's not how you want it, export it how you want it to be.

[timber wharf]

@vapid oar if stuff is weightpainted evenly like you showed feet, it wont bend. if it has gradient between bones it will bend

[vapid oar]

Yea, i just want those to "rotate"

I dont think I can even do this type of model without moving joints in the center, because its like 1 whole piece

Here a pic

[timber wharf]

if you dont like 100% spine you can set whole mesh to like 50% spine 50% chest etc

[vapid oar]

I would like the center piece to not bend, but i doubt thats possible

Or itll look funky

[timber wharf]

well you have to test it. gesturemanager/av3emu can at least play you default loco animations

[vapid oar]

Yeah

Im still getting this error I think

Wait let me check something

[timber wharf]

did you press apply?

[vapid oar]

Ignore me i forgot the neck, thatd probably do it lmao

Does vrchat require finger bones? I want to test without them for now

[timber wharf]

no

[vapid oar]

Alr ty

I appreciate all the help

[cloud plover]

the mesh that loads first, is invisible, thats why we changed it😅

[somber sequoia]

"loads first"?

[rotund grotto]

js got a quest pro and I've been trying to add FT to an avatar that i bought, it didnt come with it, and ive been at it for about 3-4h now and cant figure it out. i even have a video but still cant get it. theres seems to be different somehow. willl anyone be willing to give me some advice or help? idm dm's or if u need any extra info

[vapid oar]

I think I need to reimport because these might be causing issues, its still complaining about the head I think

[somber sequoia]

you've visited https://docs.vrcft.io/ right? Also there's a discord link at the bottom of this page, which may be additional help.

[timber wharf]

@vapid oar rename head mesh

in 2022 cant have two stuff names same as mesh+bones for example

even if the path is different

[rotund grotto]

i will ahve a look rq. its not vrc face tracking thats the problem ive got ti to work on other avitars but i have no experience in blender and not much in unity so folowing the guids is hard

[vapid oar]

Oh alright

[somber sequoia]

do you already have the required face tracking blendshapes on the model?

[vapid oar]

I tried renaming the package one and didnt let me

[timber wharf]

dont unpack model, like ever

[somber sequoia]

I cannot emphasize that enough

[timber wharf]

just reexport from blender with overwrite

[vapid oar]

I dont even know if I ever did that

[rotund grotto]

im prety sure... on the guide it told me to run a patcher and that gave me a new fbx of the head

[somber sequoia]

then probably it does now. You can check in blender or Unity though.

[cloud plover]

im not very good at unity 🙁 but it seems it may have been fixed! 🙂 somehow

[rotund grotto]

i have literaly no experience in blender. like i instaled it abt 2-3 h ago so no clue

[somber sequoia]

you can learn, or check in Unity

[vapid oar]

Yea I cant change the name of the mesh?

[rotund grotto]

js look up a yt video or is there a quicker way?

[timber wharf]

blender

[vapid oar]

Oh fk

[timber wharf]

you cant in unity

[vapid oar]

But I DONT need to delete? just the head?

[timber wharf]

goto blender, rename head, export on top of your existing fbx in assets. also disable leafbones while youre at it

as long as you don't unpack your prefab you can freely owerwrite fbx at any moment without loosing unity progress. just make sure to not export extra stuff or miss smth

[vapid oar]

I see, ima just reimport everything without the leafbones and stuff

I didnt really do anything to the avatar thats special

And I dont know why I couldnt even delete the head in unity either?

In the assets

[timber wharf]

its packed in fbx, fbx is immutable

its a file and unity cannot edit it content, only read

[vapid oar]

Is obj a better export?

[timber wharf]

no why

[vapid oar]

I misunderstood I guess

Thought you were saying like fbx was bad or something lmao

[timber wharf]

unity cant edit fbx. or obj. or png

[vapid oar]

Jeez I changed the head mesh in blender but its still the same

Wtf

Swear I literally reimported everything brand new

[timber wharf]

did you overwirte fbx in assets or what

[vapid oar]

I just reimported a whole new "package" just reexported the entire avatar with a differently named head

Let me just delete everything and reimport again

Cant find what I dont have lmao

I think I found it

[timber wharf]

assets is just a folder, you can locate it in blender and export on top, no need to import stuff

[vapid oar]

Yea let me just start doing that

[vapid oar]

Should I change BOTH or just one?

I dont know if changing it will mess with the rigging

[timber wharf]

i dont think mesh name matters

its not a part of hierarchy

only objects+bones

[somber sequoia]

mesh name will matter a lot if you have animations targeting it - but those can be repathed pretty simply (with hfcRed's tool especially)

[smoky anchor]

hello, i'm really new to the vrchat community and so don't really understand anything about avatar creation, anyways i bought an avatar which has metallic wings on the back of his hips, i want them in the back of his chest so i put them behind his back but the roots of the wings are connected to the hips (screenshot), i asked chatgpt about it and it said that unity wasn't able to manage this and i needed to modify the .fbx on blender wich i did, so i made the wings child of the chest in blender and imported back the fbx in unity annnnnd everything disapeared and the prefab won't update with the new fbx..... i'm stuck on this for 2 days now and i don't really know how to fix this.... thanks for helping me
i tried modyfying the armature tree on unity didn't worked
I tried adding materials back to the modified fbx but all the settings were broken and everything is basically broke xd

[vapid oar]

Thank you both, the error is gone

[somber sequoia]

Export from blender with "Apply scalings" set to "FBX All" unless you know it should be otherwise.
possibly you need to redo the rig setup if you move bones... but maybe not.
Anything else you'd probably need to show us the armature in Blender, it's not clear where the wing bones are, or if they got positioned weirdly. You'll probably have to do more than just re-parenting bones, such as move them and the wing mesh too.

[smoky anchor]

i exported with those settings, i tried seting up again the rig but didn't worked .. or maybe i did it wrong
the blender file is really messy
the wings were attached to the hip bone i re parentede it to the chest and mooved them up (armature and mesh)

[somber sequoia]

probably would help to see where the wing mesh is along with the wing bones

[smoky anchor]

Hum i don't know how to do that.. i don't even know of they are linked or not

[vapid oar]

Dude it works first model ever, thats so neat, just gotta finish textures and fix the position of the eye

The view is high as fk but I set it to the front of the helmet

Oh I think ik why

For some reason the "view white sphere" I just cant see it anymore

Disappeared lmao

Found it

[near ice]

every time i upload this avi, the necklace turns pink, i know it means its invalid or something but idk what exactly about the shader is invalid

[somber sequoia]

it means your material is somehow broken

[near ice]

strange

[vapid oar]

Is there a way to change the "idle" the cloth is so huge it overlaps, but otherwise im happy

Gotta do more texture work and itll be alright

[somber sequoia]

please don't ping me for random new questions that anyone can answer

[vapid oar]

Sorry

[somber sequoia]

Thanks

[primal folio]

is there a way how to fix this problem with the hands and fingers?

[balmy barn]

cant tell if it has a wierd fingerbones, looks like these are

some models have alot of bones instead of a wrist, those need to be merged

[plucky berry]

does toon standard decrease performance?

[grand scaffold]

Given it's a shader by VRC themselves and supported on mobile platforms I'd say it's fairly lightweight

[plucky berry]

ight

[primal folio]

thats the hand bone were it leads to finger and that

[balmy barn]

blender if it looks something like this you need to merge

[charred valley]

anybody know how to make it so the skirt doesn't stick up like this while sitting down with gogo loco

[balmy barn]

longer skirts in vrchat not fun, that looks weightpainted to your legs - not much you can do about that

[charred valley]

(im new to this so forgive me if im talking bullshit but) could i possibly weight the end of the skirt to the knees so it follows them?

[balmy barn]

I tend to make its own bones weight to 'legs' but its own bone so it follows them, can look terrible or ok , sure

[primal folio]

i figured it out its the per-muscle setting in unity

[tropic pollen]

guys i am STRUGGLING does anybody know how to make hair cast real time shadows on the face?

[somber sequoia]

realtime? with a realtime light, which is awful for performance

[shrewd path]

I've been struggling with an issue for about a week now. I have an Avi that I've been working on. Everything is upload ready, the second I launch the SDK to upload the avatar it just sits at the build screen. Nothing happens. I've let it sit for 40 minutes and it doesn't even move. I've asked around and have essentially been told to "figure it out myself"

Any help would be appreciated

[vapid oar]

How do I get the same see through effect with my opacity like in substance painter?

So I can see inside to the inner mesh

Using transparency alpha map on poiyomi toon shader

Found out mb

[crisp trail]

hello im trying to use shape keys for eye blinking but i want to use bones to move the eyes around. when looking through the UI i cant seem to find an option for both in this tab

never mind i am just stupid

its right there

[lime gorge]

my avatar has a viewpoint issue where it doesnt set correctly on the floor.

should be fixable through unity

[smoky anchor]

can someone come dm with me so we can discuss this problem more in depth, it's really driving me crazy

[low hedge]

Hi! I am trying to make this MMD model by TipperTopper on DeviantArt for the Netflix character Hilda. Having no experience in VRChat modeling I was following a tutorial on converting MMD models to VRChat on the Meta Quest 2, and I ran into the issue in the image when using the CATS plugin. Is there any way to overcome this issue?

[balmy barn]

get blender 4.5 + unoffical cats , thats a very old version you got , that model doesnt seem like it has any shoulders or it got nuked

[low hedge]

Well, to be honest, I don't think it really does have shoulders due to the simple artstyle of the show the model replicates. But I'll still try and ssee how Blender 4.5 and the Unofficial CATS works if nothing else

[balmy barn]

yup no shoulders

could throw it in mixamo and hope it doesnt explode , but weightpainting odd

[smoky anchor]

is there a way to delete that stretch or redirect it to the upper chest of my avatar ?
i tried making winngs child of the chest in the armature tree, didn't changed anything
i tried modifying root bone to the chest and nothing happenned neither
any suggestion ?

[low hedge]

2 questions just to be clear: 1) I'm guessing that without shoulders, the CATS or standard MMD(?) method is out of the question? and 2) If I do put the model through Mixamo, I assume everything after that will have to be by hand?

[balmy barn]

would not be fun to fix outfit / hair should be seperate before mixamo

[rigid hemlock]

I keep getting this error when i enter play mode, despite the error everything works as it should, can i ignore it? Rigging looks correct as well

[low hedge]

I separated the model by materials, if that helps (I got admittedly confused because the character's clothes are part of the model's body)

[crisp trail]

any guides for dynamic bones? i know physbones has replaced this system but i only have one bone for each ear and i think its more applicable

[near ice]

is there a way to copy a sculpt and paste it but under the same game object?

on blender

like lets say i want to make the left side look exactly like the right side, how can i do that?

[balmy barn]

dynbones get autoconverted to phys wich can be wierd , better start learning physbone

old one is pretty bad for performance and not quest friendly why vrchat now have physbone

[crisp trail]

this is also fucking with me

i imported the asset folder into a new unity project so i can upload it and now many of the old scripts are missing

what?

including the physbones im trying to fix

[compact dust]

Hi I'm looking for help making a avatar companion system, [a pet]
I am working on trying to make a working ground pet for a model but I need help setting it up as I Don't know how to do a grounded pet system

[compact dust]

I just need help [ like a step by step help] I want to learn how to make pets as I seen them many times on other models

[shrewd agate]

Hi

[shrewd stirrup]

i have this dress like thing im trynna make look good when walking, im trynna make it look natural but theres bones in the dead middle front and back but idk what to do.

the leg bones move the skirt but them middle ones trip me up

[thorny tartan]

does anyone know how to make a gun shoot semi automatically without having the last bullet you shot go away to shoot a new one?

[night ember]

buffer particle

[thorny tartan]

?

[night ember]

https://github.com/VRLabs/Particle-Bufferer

[thorny tartan]

appricate it

[thorny tartan]

is there a video I can watch to figure out how it works?

[night ember]

its entirely just a particle with the gun particle as the sub emitter

then the particle is just not a child of the buffer particle

[thorny tartan]

and how will this help my guns shoot in whilst another bullet particle is active?

[thorny tartan]

I have it so when the gun is on and you make a fist, it plays an animation which turns on the gun particle, so I'm not sure how to apply buffer particles to that

[night ember]

you just repeatedly toggle on and off the buffer?

every time the buffer enables it fires the gun particle

[thorny tartan]

Yeah, but i want to shoot whilst not having to turn the particle on and off again

Like if I want to shoot again the bullet disappears because to fire it a second time I have to turn the emitter off

[night ember]

thats the whole point of a buffer particle

you dont ever turn off the actual gun particle

[thorny tartan]

clearly I am super confused here, mind explaining it to me from the top?

[somber sequoia]

delete the left side, use mirror modifier to create the right side and apply it

[night ember]

The link I sent explains it

[thorny tartan]

I looked at the readme and everything, I'm still super confused

[night ember]

Its literally just
Enable buffer particle
It shoots gun particle

[thorny tartan]

that's it?

[night ember]

Yea?

[thorny tartan]

damn

[thorny tartan]

Yeah so it didn't work

Yeah nvm im dumb

[tepid jetty]

I've tried reimporting it multiple different ways and times but Liltoon is just pink ;-;

[left wharf]

i think liltoon might be broken?
try reinstall and update pckages

[somber sequoia]

"hidden" - is that locked and maybe you can unlock the material?

[tepid jetty]

I have
Didn't do anything

[left wharf]

oh

[tepid jetty]

What do you need help with?
Don't ask to ask

[somber sequoia]

Lots of us make avatars here, that's the point of this channel 🙂

if you ask in this channel, anyone present may help, and others can learn from the discussion.

Read what I said, rather than trying to DM everyone in here.

I'll wish you luck then.

Unless, that is, you wanted to talk about monetary compensation for private 1-on-1 tutoring...

[arctic ginkgo]

Most people aren't willing to call, but you could try screen recording and sending the video here, or sending screenshots alongside a voice recording

[pine sundial]

doesnt mean people need to act like cunts about it shrug

[somber sequoia]

it happens all the time

[pine sundial]

the problem ^

[main remnant]

It's parented to the hand because I want to carry it around, and I can drop it in the world and see it do the tricks by itself

[arctic ginkgo]

I believe this is because the animation affects rotation. I would recommend to parent the skateboard to another object, then you can use this for positioning it in the hand, dropping it in the world, etc

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, I'd use constraints for that rather than putting the skateboard on the hand itself

constrain it to target objects and position those for the different positions, use weight to swap

[main remnant]

Okay I hadn't hear about constraints yet.
I should put the skate on the root of the avatar, add a constrain position component to it, and in the constrain settings add the hand as a source?

[somber sequoia]

that's what I would do, yep, one constraint target for held in hand, one for stuck on your feet, and then you can world-drop with the "freeze to world" option if you want that too

[main remnant]

Okay I'll try all that. Thanks for the heads up

[arctic ginkgo]

I would put the skate on another object first

add an empty object to the root of the avatar, and this will have the constraints on it. The skateboard goes under this object

[main remnant]

I'll try that too. I appreciate it

Wish me luck

[tepid jetty]

https://dontasktoask.com/
Screenshots and video recording exist
Along with speech to text

Your issue was Creator Companion installing the wrong version of Unity
VRChat currently uses 2022.3.22f1
https://creators.vrchat.com/sdk/upgrade/current-unity-version/
https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.22f1

You could've provided screenshots of Creator Companion instead of calling
I understand explaining a problem can be difficult especially when you don't know what's going on
But in future please attempt to elaborate in text/screenshots first
Then jump to VC/Call if the person helping you is okay with it

[main remnant]

This happens when I paste the keyframes in either the skate transform or the empty transform

[arctic ginkgo]

oh this is because your model was exported with "All Local" instead of "FBX All" settings. If you divide all position values by 100 it should fix it. Also there is a tool for fixing animation paths automatically: https://github.com/hfcRed/Animation-Repathing

you could also just scale up the skateboard by 100 and scale down the empty to 0.01

[main remnant]

Skateboard and Avatar are 2 different models. I'm pretty sure I did select FBX All but I could export again to make sure. You're talking about the skate model, right? Not the avatar

[main remnant]

I've been 11 hours with this problem and my brain is all burnt out so I could have made a mistake like that

[arctic ginkgo]

yes, the issue is that the animation uses the avatar space because it was attached to the hand, so everything is multiplied by 100 if it was exported as "All Local"

[main remnant]

Sorry didn't mean to reply on that message

Exported like this but the problem persists...

I'll try the scaling thing

[somber sequoia]

This is correct

[main remnant]

Almost good with scaling, but still rotates

[arctic ginkgo]

try rotating the skateboard to match the animation, then you can rotate the empty back to normal

[main remnant]

You really are a sunshine

Thanks a lot

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh I can finally rest

Although it's not spawning on the hand. Is something wrong here?

[arctic ginkgo]

trying using VRC Parent constraint, make sure it's locked and activated

[main remnant]

Okay still not spawns in the hand but somewhere else. I can try to fix this by myself though, I believe...

I appreciate the support 💖

[dull sable]

Hey if i upload an avatar as public but write "Private" in the description d does it still appear in the avatar search world

[main remnant]

Perfect... You're my hero. I've done in 10 minutes what I couldn't do in 11 hours. You don't know how much I appreciate it

[worldly scarab]

Hey uh this is my first time in here but I’m searching for this avatar I saw someone wearing in prison escape and I asked ai to make me an image that kinda looks like what I remember. This is the avatar, lmk if anyone knows what avatar this might be

[arctic ginkgo]

of course! I'm glad I could help 😊

[arctic ginkgo]

I'm not sure about every search world, but I know adding [PRIVATE] in the name or description will keep it from appearing in Prismic's

[arctic ginkgo]

you can try posting in #1138520828556890214

[crisp trail]

any guides for vrc emotes?

im trying to add in facial expressions to the UI wheel but im having issues with it

[dull sable]

Even if set to public? Ok im gonna have to do that with the rp group Avis

Does it have to only say private or do i need the special characters

[somber sequoia]

Remember that public is still public

[worldly scarab]

Is my post private?

[somber sequoia]

no

[floral token]

Soooo does anyone have any simple instructions on how to install gofreeze? I joined the gogo server but I’m still confused😭

[somber sequoia]

if that's part of gogo loco, the creator wrote extensive documentation on how to use and install it, which includes images

[floral token]

It’s a part of it but I’m still super confused, the picture shows something that I don’t have in the package and I don’t understand, my friend who knows how to install it is on overwatch rn, there’s not any direct instructions on how to install it that I could find

[arctic ginkgo]

No?

[arctic ginkgo]

Yes, but it doesn't garauntee people can't get their hands on it. If you want it to be truly private, the only way to do that right now is to upload the avatar on the account you want it on and then set it to private. Private avatar sharing is a VERY popular feature request though, so hopefully it's something that's being looked into, but we won't know until they say anything

[dull sable]

Does it just have to say private or does it need the special characters

[arctic ginkgo]

I'm not entirely sure, but iirc there's information about it inside the world

[somber sequoia]

yeah it's posted in the world

at least, I've seen Prismic say that several times

[bleak prism]

Sorry to just jump in here but I wanted to quickly ask if anyone has experienced their avatar shifting down during play mode with gesture manager or uploading it?

I've checked the position of everything in unity and the FBX but found it was all zeroed and in the right place. When i hit play without gesture manager (and the descriptor removed) she doesn't shift downwards at all. I've had to move the view point into the mouth to match where she shifts down too but I've got no clue what's causing it. Her unity humanoid avatar is fine and i've rebuilt it several times with nothing helping >.>

idk if this is an SDK bug or something but none of my other recent avatars are doing it (working on 4 atm)

[somber sequoia]

you're sure the avatar is standing on the origin and all transforms are applied in Blender?

[worldly marlin]

@somber sequoia do u still have that little tutorial u made on weight painting simple meshes to bones?

[bleak prism]

I'll go back and double check but that's what i looked at after my unity testing

[worldly marlin]

i cant find it

[somber sequoia]

I don't make tutorials, not sure what you mean?

[worldly marlin]

shit someone back when i was making my avatar showed me how to weight paint bones to a mesh bc i had my meshes separated so they moved independantly, guess it wasnt u mb

[bleak prism]

Yep, all applied :c

[somber sequoia]

yeah, I don't think it was me, but I know how to do it, so could answer questions

[worldly marlin]

im not making an avatar but its a pita to mess with like 8 materials at once so id like to make everything 1 mesh and just weight paint the bones to the mesh like the second character (ignore the missing texture)

[somber sequoia]

sure, nothing wrong with one mesh

that's ideal for export anyway

[worldly marlin]

right, id like to do it bc its easier to work with

i just dont remember how do it

[somber sequoia]

wait, which part?

[worldly marlin]

making the bones move individual parts of the mesh

[somber sequoia]

mesh moves with bones because of weight painting

well you don't have to actually paint but you get what I mean.

[worldly marlin]

right i need to do vertex groups and all that but i dont think im doing it right

[somber sequoia]

select armature. shift select mesh object. go into weight paint mode. select bone, paint.

[stoic bobcat]

Is there a chart for VRChat avatars for arm and leg length? I need to use it for reference when I make my own models since I tend to make them too long and the bend when I rest, if that helps to understand what I mean 😭

[somber sequoia]

you have a useful reference though - yourself.

[stoic bobcat]

I think it’s like, the finger bones can’t go past the knee?

[stoic bobcat]

That’s true lol

[worldly marlin]

okay hold on

[worn cloud]

I have some long back hair that I'm animating to be shorter with a slider (affecting the scale and rotation of the transforms affected by the physbone), and i have isAnimated checked; but whenever the animation is being triggered the hair begins to jitter intensely

[worldly marlin]

right so i have it like this but it doesnt move

[somber sequoia]

be specific: what doesn't move when?

[worldly marlin]

the ear does not move when i move the bone

[somber sequoia]

weight paint the ear mesh

[worldly marlin]

select armature > select mesh > create vertex group > weight paint?

[somber sequoia]

no? you don't need to create vertex groups, it'll do that automatically when in weight paint mode.

[worldly marlin]

oh okay

thats the vertex group that was made with the weight painting

i think i found a tutorial online and i got it i think

thnks

[west fable]

can someone help i was working on my model yesterday and saved and went to bed i reopened today and i opened to this it just looks like the armature exploded...

all erros are gone

[crimson lodge]

so uh... anyone knows why my fingers are buckling or like, indented like that?

completely fine in blender and unity till the avatar is bein used in gesture manager or vrc

[worldly marlin]

yeah i got it

[pallid drift]

how do i fix this? i am VERY new to unity and know nothing

[main remnant]

This is a problem related to the rigging which was probably done in blender

The hierarchy is incorrect

[pallid drift]

ah

so do i have to re rig?

[main remnant]

At least the bones that are incorrect

[pallid drift]

alright

thanks

[main remnant]

I don't remember right now if you can re-parent without the need of creating the bones again

Select the child bone, hold shift and select the parent. Control+P to parent and keep offset if needed

I've been awake 20 hours and am in bed right now so probably im misremembering but I think that's it

[rigid hemlock]

Bump, anyone know?

[gaunt knoll]

i feel bad can anyone help #creator-companion message

im off to bed and my brain no wokie

[pallid drift]

does this look right? i have a better idea of what im doing now.

[somber sequoia]

where does that popup come from?

[rigid hemlock]

Just pops up when I enter play mode

[somber sequoia]

must be some add-on you have

[rigid hemlock]

Not sure if it's from unity or a plugin it only pops up for one avi in my project

And they all use the same add-ons, but I'll look deeper

[gaunt knoll]

#creator-companion

[rigid hemlock]

Found the issue, marshmallow physbones weren't set up correctly

[gaunt knoll]

your using sdk 3.7.6 that is no longer supported you have to use 3.9.0 or up

3.10.0 is the less buggy one as of me saying this

someone might say otherwise

yes but without it sdk 3.9.0 then you cant upload

plus i dont think it will break anything of yours

[left gull]

as long as you set the avatar SDK to 3.10 before tabbing back into the unity project it'll be fine

but if you tab into your unity after only setting the base it might make some stuff bug out a lil, unsure if that is a temp side effect or not though :P

[gaunt knoll]

and ive tried asking you questions about this in #creator-companion but you didnt answer

and again if CC is the problem #creator-companion

Yes im trying to help go to #creator-companion

[gleaming field]

is there a way i can see how my avatar shaders would look like in darker settings/worlds ?

[ripe bloom]

how do i make a clone of my avatar like one of those cloning systems but keep them at a fixed position (the position the avatar wearer was in when it was created)

[ornate stump]

You put another of your avatar model in your avatar, add parent constraints on every bones and link to the main armature bones, make a toggle to set the model enabled and freeze constraint to world.

[ripe bloom]

thats actually easier than i thought lol

[ornate stump]

Rather it's tedious.

[ripe bloom]

i've done worse

[ornate stump]

Good.

[grim crescent]

I jst got a package anyone able to help me with making a custom particle system for it? basically i have a piano addon and i want to add in particles so when u press the key or hold it down a line shows up going up from the key with it toggle on n off and maybe changing the color?

[arctic ginkgo]

you can use the logic from the piano to animate a buffer particle on/off (you can use VRCLab's buffer particle prefab). These can be parented to an empty, which can be moved however you want. You could potentially add to the piano's animations to set a position for the particles as well, and have them be simulated in world space.

For the particle system itself, I would have emission set to 0 for over time and distance, and just add a burst of 1. No shape, and speed and lifetime set however you want. Then you can add a trail with the option enabled to attach it to the base transform, and that will create a line moving up from the key

[grim crescent]

could u help me out w that in vc?

cuz i litt started using vcc yesterday jst to add in the piano

[arctic ginkgo]

ah not really, i'm kind of busy right now

hopefully this provides a bit of direction though, good luck

if you have any specific questions i may be able to help a bit more though

[fierce spear]

hey, does anyone know why my depth animations stop working in vrchat? when in unity, they work as intended, but when in game, they refuse to trigger.

[ornate stump]

What depth animation?

[fierce spear]

from VRCfury's SPS plugs.

they trigger blendshapes dependent on the plug, but its not triggering the blendshapes in game.

[ornate stump]

I'm not sure that question can be answered in this server. You better should to go the vrcfury server and ask there.

[fierce spear]

fair enough. thanks anyways.

[versed pasture]

I am getting a compilation issue here when i imported an old project. It seems to be frcfury. Whats the best approach to fix it?

[ornate stump]

Update vrcfury.

[stray trench]

are all variants of mamehinata using an identifcal body? so all these bodies can use the same assets?

[ornate stump]

Mame and Kipfel share body. I can't tell for the rest.

[stray trench]

thank you, i was looking at usasaki assets on boothplorer and was wondering if im limiting myself by not looking at mame's

[left gull]

if you search MAMEFRIENDS it should show all the assets+bases that work interchanably with mamehinata

theres several avatars that're similar enough where they share assets and/or that tag is used for assets that include the majority of the mame compatible models

[rocky fractal]

anybody knows why my imposter avatar is like this

[brave sedge]

cant make a new project

help

nvm fixed

[tame badge]

So on a standard shader my emmisions layer keeps forcing iself to black no matter how many times I try to change it is just ignores me and snaps back to pitch back.

What setting did I change to cause it to be locked in the corner even if I move it?

[grand scaffold]

Do you have an animation preview active?

[tame badge]

No, I don't think so. I don't have any animations open hmm but maybe one is messing with it

[trail marten]

can anyone help me with making the arm movements in vrchat more similar/the same as the one in minecraft please?

if you notice the vrchat arms snap into weird postions, the arm movement is affected by the head orientation for some reason, the arms just dont rotate with my wrist, and it just overall doesnt feel normal

the vivecraft movements look much more natural

if a better explanation/video is needed i can provide that

[round comet]

MIKUU

[night ember]

change the aim constraint settings
parent it to the arm so the shoulder affects it

[trail marten]

how do i do that? in blender or unity?

[trail marten]

yesss

[night ember]

constraints are a unity thing

[timber wharf]

id try placing actual mesh as a child of a wrist with aim constraint to upper arm (ie effectively to shoulder socket). then probly some proximity contacts on torso and blendshape so when you move controllers too close to body, arms do shrink in length🤔

[trail marten]

what, this sounds quite complex, i should say this is my first avatar

and why would i want the arms to shrink

[ember viper]

how could I go about removing the weights from the jacket beneath the arm..?

new to weight painting in general.. so im tryna figure this out

so close to having the avatar i want 😭

[somber sequoia]

Either paint them to 0, or delete the vertices from the vertex group named the same as the bone you're working on.

[ember viper]

okay well how do i paint them to 0 if i can't see em ;-;

[somber sequoia]

hide other parts

[ember viper]

unfortunately the arm n stuff isn't all seperate

[somber sequoia]

doesn't matter

[ember viper]

oh?

[somber sequoia]

tab into mesh edit mode, hide parts, tab back to weight paint - parts are still hidden

[ember viper]

word

[somber sequoia]

Personally I split stuff up in Blender to make this kind of thing easy, and merge down to 1-2 mesh objects when I export (usually 1 for body, one for clothing)

[ember viper]

Yeahh i would have too but the original model isn't mine, and i just don't feel like making it more complicated for myself incase i fuck it up right now, this is the first time i've gotten it rigged properly and working in VRC, so i am just hyper focused on making it work how it is LOL

[somber sequoia]

yep, makes sense

[ember viper]

the original model is public, but it was an IK model so this has been fucking ROUGH

😭

[tepid jetty]

I recently was trying to adjust the proportions of an avatar to make it work better for FBT
But now the eye rotations are wrong
Is there a good way to copy the original bone rotations in Blender so that the animations in Unity work properly?

[somber sequoia]

generally you have the eye bones perfectly vertical with 0 roll

[junior void]

sounds like an issue that i had which was fixed with setting the rig generic and then humanoid again

[somber sequoia]

Yeah probably that's the right way to fix it

[ember viper]

@somber sequoia sorry for the ping, but uh.. i've forgotten how to UNHIDE stuff

[tepid jetty]

Alt + H

[plucky hearth]

has anyone been able to get final ik (ccd ik specificly) to work before i buy it?

[ember viper]

now.. how can I isolate this now that I've gotten it all selected? so i can repaint the arms

i tried pressing / but that didn't work

shift H, got it

[ember viper]

omg

i'm achieving my goal

[main remnant]

Trying to learn Avatar optimization. I have this case in which my avi and the prop it has use the same material. However since avatar and prop are 2 different meshes, it counts as 2 materials even though it's the same one.
How would one go to improve this?

[night ember]

material slots are not the same as materials

[main remnant]

Yeah each mesh has 1 material slot, that's why it says there are 2. But since I'm using the same material for both, is there anything I can do to improve this?

I know it's not drastically bad. But just want to learn these basics

[night ember]

make it not use another mesh/material slot

just because they happen to use the same material they are still entirely independently rendered and can be animated independently

[main remnant]

Yeah that's why I'm using 2 meshes

So there's nothing to be done

[somber sequoia]

Unless you join those meshes, then you're stuck with at least one material slot each

[main remnant]

Great, thanks. It's incredible how picky Quest is

[fierce steppe]

You have to use vcc and upgrade the sdk version (as mentionned in the message) to something higher than 3.9.0

[night ember]

as it says right there
update to 3.9 or newer

[warped rune]

does anyone know why i can't upload a avatar when i click build it just does nothing but when i upload for testing it works fine?

[ember viper]

it should tell you there is like a lil console thing in the upload menu

[warped rune]

the thing is it doesnt show a error

[ember viper]

is it just failing to upload, or is it failing to update on VRC

[warped rune]

when i click build the name and thumbnail panel goes like darker and nothing happens

its like it wont even start uploading

[ember viper]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

darn.. embed failure

anyway, do you have everything filled out?

Picture, Name, Desc

[warped rune]

yeah

desc is optional

[ember viper]

I haven't run into an issue like this so im legit just shooting out ideas honestly,

[warped rune]

yeah same

[ember viper]

lack of info out there for random lil things like this is painful lmfao

[warped rune]

like its the newer version it worked perfectly with a older one

[near ice]

anybody know how to fix this sharp curve on the particle systems?

[night ember]

sharp curve?

[near ice]

like this thing

[night ember]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

thats less a sharp curve and more the fact trails struggle with bending in general

[near ice]

oh

okay gotcha

[night ember]

thats just the stacking layers

[near ice]

oh well

also question, is possible to make a particle system only turn on for a time when the object is toggled on?

im assuming i turn off "looping" and set a duration right?

[night ember]

itd stop after a time yes

[near ice]

awesome

thank you

[dark jay]

so i have a emote/aniamtion that has 1 and a half minutes before it starts how do i get rid of that blank space, and yes ive tried cutting the animation it breaks

[night ember]

if its just blank space you can drag the keyframes to the left

[dark jay]

it breaks

theres keyframes that do nothing

[dark jay]

so idk

[night ember]

if there are keyframes then they definitely do something

[dark jay]

nope

well maybe but its not doing anything

[night ember]

if they did nothing it would just smoothly go from one keyframe to the next one that "does something"

that pause is it doing something

[dark jay]

how do i get rid of the pause without it breaking

thats what i want not the pause does something

[dark jay]

if possible

[balmy barn]

go to frame you want to start at then copy all humanoid rotations/ect to it , can be done from animator (hold shift or some other way to just add all probably exsist)

[dark jay]

what do i do after copy im not very smart at this

[near ice]

i added these trails via particle system but they dont show when i try it out

[dark jay]

i got it now

[balmy barn]

very rare i shorten one

add keyframe adds all the humanoid bone values i guess

[near ice]

nvm

my other question is, how can i set up the sword so that the trail only shows whenever i move the sword itself

[ember viper]

Anyone know what this means?

was attempting to play the scene to test emotes, but it comes up w this error,

when trying to load VRCFury

ah

it's when i try to add goloco

nvm it loaded fine this time

maybe smt just went funky last time

[near ice]

anybody here good with particle systems?

[harsh hedge]

Hello, i need help to export my model from blender to unity, i tried so many ways / plugins but none worked, when i use my fbx in unity everything is broken and i can't swap my mesh like i used to.

even if i simply import the fbx to blender and directly export it to unity without doing any modification

it still broke

[somber sequoia]

set "apply scalings" to "FBX All", uncheck leaf bones (under armature) and don't unpack your prefab in Unity. that's all.

[viral kernel]

Can someone help me

[somber sequoia]

with what specifically? Looks like you have a shader that won't work on quest there, you'll need to change that out.

[viral kernel]

but why do i have a list and i cant click on anything on it

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what you did to cause that list

looks like a list of face tracking variables

[lavish cosmos]

Look up VRlabs weapon slash

[somber sequoia]

could do it with a physbone pretty easily

[wild widget]

toggles through vrchatfury working/appearing only in unity and not in the actual game. Any help?

[dreamy flint]

what does it mean with you need to spend more time on app to create my own avatar

[grand scaffold]

you gotta spend more time on app to create your own avatar

[dreamy flint]

which app tho

like on vr chat?

like how much?

[night ember]

You need to be at least new user

[dreamy flint]

i am a new user

i mean i am new

[night ember]

the rank

[dreamy flint]

oh

how do we check that

[tiny dock]

this is moreso a question and not something i have an issue with but can physbones be controlled with an animation or will the actual physbone aspect override whatever i manually add

idk if that makes any sense

[somber sequoia]

Yes - if you check the "is animated" box at the bottom of the physbone, you can animate their position or rotation and the physbone effect will happen after that

[tiny dock]

got it

[sharp delta]

Are custom colliders supposed to show a gizmo when you press Edit?
Been trying to set up custom colliders, but without any visuals i'm just guessing...

[somber sequoia]

do you have gizmos on? 'cause yea, they usually do

[fringe spade]

uhh idk what section to go for this but i need help, im a questie, and i put on an avatar in prismics using the randomize avatar feature. i got an avatar that never loaded and crashed me and my friend. and now i cannot get back into vrchat to take it off because i keep crashing. i have no pc, and i downloaded vrchat on my phone and logged in, and the app closes entirely when i try to join 💔

[wheat horizon]

you can login to the normal vrc website and change your avatar to default there

[fringe spade]

ty ty

[sharp delta]

Yup! Just tried restarting unity, no change - The root scale is 1x1x1, and this is just an fbx dropped into the scene.
No clue why collider gizmos wouldn't show up

[spark walrus]

anybody here have experience uploading with linux? I have a weird issue

[somber sequoia]

weird, I usually see them

[somber sequoia]

Yes! I have done all of my avatar/world work in Linux

[spark walrus]

MY SAVIOR!!! im having an issue where i go to upload my avatar thru the SDK control panel and i am not able to open the build tab

[spark walrus]

i did just realize im on the wrong version of unity tho so i might have already solved my issue but we'll see

[somber sequoia]

oh - definitely only use 2022.3.22f1

[spark walrus]

yeah i only noticed that part a moment ago, i used to make stuff on windows AGES ago and just hadnt tried on linux yet

would it be alright to send you a friend request so i can dm you about it if i run into any issues?

[somber sequoia]

no, I'd much prefer keeping things in here so everyone can benefit

[spark walrus]

sounds good! i appreciate it

hopefully all i had to do was switch versions, I'll be back if it's still broken

[unreal fable]

I've had a weird problem on my avatar for a little over a year now, where the nametag is way up above my head. (Typically into the ceiling.) Is there anything I can change within Unity to fix that?

[somber sequoia]

Usually that's because your bounding box is excessively large

[unreal fable]

Where would I go to change that? The avatar is only scaled to around 5ft8

[somber sequoia]

usually it's calculated based on the max size of the avatar and props, you can set it for each mesh but beyond that, I'm not sure, you may have to check props or something

[kindred chasm]

when i logged into vrchat it said i could upload my own avatar, when i tried it said i wasnt permitted?

nvm i got it

[spark walrus]

i was just on the wrong version

ok so i lied, its still broken, except now it wont let me choose a platform

[dusk lance]

Which error is this? and how do I fix it?

[trim smelt]

Can’t find anything online on how to fix this.

[spark walrus]

nvm i fixed :3

[somber sequoia]

do you have multiple gogo loco prefabs on your avatar?

[trim smelt]

no just one

does it on new avatars too, newest update for everything too

[dusk lance]

I have no idea why I cant upload, just getting an Upload error

[trim smelt]

everything up to date?

[dusk lance]

3.10.1 Right?

[trim smelt]

is your unity, unity 2022.3.22f1

[dusk lance]

Worked last night when I uploaded one

Yeah, top right

Fucking uploads now!

I did nothing