avatar-help

[foggy tiger]

Just normal unity

[somber sequoia]

Are you using VRChat SDK less than 3.10?

[foggy tiger]

I just click to the vrchat sdk tab and it switched back

[foggy tiger]

3.9

[somber sequoia]

yep, known bug

[foggy tiger]

Bruh

[somber sequoia]

3.8 and 3.9 do this, it's awful

[foggy tiger]

But gesture manager doesn't support 3.10

[somber sequoia]

try 3.7, or perhaps use Avatar3.0 emulator instead

[foggy tiger]

But isn't the latter just used for like combining animation controllers and paramaters tho

[somber sequoia]

no that's av3 manager

[foggy tiger]

I need gesture manager for the menu

Oh

[somber sequoia]

emulator is the play mode testing tool. I usually prefer it

(but still have gesture manager installed so I get the pretty radial menus)

[foggy tiger]

I'm just gonna try 3.10 and hope gesture manager still works

[somber sequoia]

I think I tested something in 3.10 yesterday before I uploaded, and it worked fine

[foggy tiger]

It appaears to

[somber sequoia]

ah good

[uneven whale]

Hello... Sorry to bother you. But I wanted to ask. My PC and Quest versions of the .avi file don't sync the ears and tail. When someone tugs at my ears on the PC, I don't see it on the Quest. Is there a way to fix this? Could it be because the end bones are removed on the Quest, or is there simply less physbone in the tail and ears?

[indigo compass]

The physbones need to be in the same order in the avatar's hierarchy.

[uneven whale]

I have everything in the same order, but in the quest version, the end bone and a little less physbone were removed, and also the pc and quest versions are in different projects, but everything is configured the same.

[indigo compass]

Unless the removed physbones are ones at the end of the order then you are changing the order will cause the order to missmatch

Generally the physbones are placed outside the avatar's armature for that reason

[whole grove]

If I'm looking to become a future avatar creator how much ram should I preferably try to aim for on my pc?

[somber sequoia]

as much as you can afford 🙂

[uneven whale]

Well, now the question is, how can I disable the physbone grab setting that allows people to stretch my ears and tail to crazy sizes?

[somber sequoia]

Near the bottom of the physbone component you can set stretch amount

ooh they moved the docs around a bit: https://creators.vrchat.com/common-components/physbones#stretch--squish

[coral mountain]

I'm having this error where I its all broken and says to enforce t-pose, I go and put inforce t-pose (or pose it manuanlly) and I click apply and it just goes back to breaking. All the bones seem to be mapped right

Does anyone have a fix before I go into blender again to restart

please ping me if you have a fix

[somber sequoia]

Nothing here looks weird, could you explain what you mean by "breaking"?

[coral mountain]

The first image, it fixes when I click enforce t-pose, I click apply and save, and it goes back to the error

Even when I manually pose it, it does the same thing

[coral mountain]

ive had this issue with multiple models, and ive either just gave up in the past or restarted-

[somber sequoia]

what error?

[coral mountain]

Character is not in tpose

[somber sequoia]

You don't actually have to enforce t-pose, especially if your avatar is in A-pose, so if that's the only error, you probably don't have to fix it.

does it otherwise not work right?

[coral mountain]

It wont let me upload with all the bones being red

it says 'avatar doesnt have an animator'

[somber sequoia]

show that error then

oh ok well that's a totally different problem

Does it say it isn't humanoid?

[coral mountain]

yes

[somber sequoia]

ok that is the actual error

[coral mountain]

i set it to humanoid

I follow the steps I do for all my avatars getting ready to upload, and a small handful of them do that while the others are fine

[somber sequoia]

is this a brand new avatar, and this is the first time rig setup?

[coral mountain]

No

Its a base, i use very often and I have no issues with, I dont do my own rigging usually

the bones are fine in blender and I get no error exporting but when I take it to unity they just decide to be broken

[somber sequoia]

ok if it's not the first time rig setup, set it to generic and apply, then redo the humanoid setup

[coral mountain]

k

hold on

this is the error im getting still

And im still getting this issue

[coral mountain]

any idea?

[somber sequoia]

do what it says to do in this error message

[coral mountain]

Took the model itself into blender and messed with the bones a bit and I got it to work, Thank you anyways

[somber sequoia]

alright

[vagrant crater]

idk why its doing this yes its two separate meshes it needs to be no its not different materials it uses the exact same materials and uses realistic shaders from what it looks like somehow its inverted with how it deals with lighting.

[zinc willow]

How do you make a seat

[ornate stump]

Simply add VRCChair prefab to your avatar.

[balmy gyro]

i need helppp i added shapekeys for my avi and in unity i tried to switch the body mesh and the body mesh just disappeared like its unvisible for some reason? any ideas :c

[night ember]

Is your avatar in scene unpacked

And wdym switch the body mesh

[quasi folio]

Anyone know why it keeps defaulting to the opposite mesh??

[ornate stump]

Start with the question how did you make the toggle?

[quasi folio]

VRCFury’s Toggle system, simple cycle, press the toggle, it becomes different, off anim takes the bomb parts off

Thing is, even though the other parts are turned off, they won’t shut off in play mode

[ornate stump]

Have you double check if the objects are being controlled by more than one toggle?

[quasi folio]

Yep, that’s the only toggle I’ve made, nothing else can mess with it yet

[ornate stump]

Also screenshot how you set the vrcfury toggle component.

[dawn oak]

when making a model with outlines how do you prevent tiny lines like this around the mouth

[ornate stump]

The bomb toggle also suppose to control the body toggle?

[quasi folio]

Yeah, switches the regular mesh to the transformed mesh

[ornate stump]

Screenshot the animations inside the Bomb Off clip as well.

[ornate stump]

Does it have only one keyframe?

[quasi folio]

Yeah, just the ones at the start of each

[ornate stump]

Is there any layer in the FX controller?

[balmy gyro]

wait does it matter?

[quasi folio]

Yes, there is, I’ve done all the necessary steps for toggles

[balmy gyro]

yk like delete the old one and add the new mesh that i just made

[ornate stump]

What necessary steps? Is it for the current vrcfury toggle?

[quasi folio]

Yeah, make an animator, apply it to both the FX layer and the avatar itself, menus, parameters, all that jazz

But the issue still remains that my mesh activations are switched for no visible reason

[ornate stump]

Just checking, what animations are in the FX layer?

[quasi folio]

The bomb form toggles, and 3 face toggles which don’t correlate to any of the meshes used (they’re flexes)

[ornate stump]

You shouldn't add anything to the FX layer that's already toggle by vrcfury.

[quasi folio]

Oh, wait, I misread

Those are in my animator

I only have the FX animator in the layers

[ornate stump]

The question was what's inside of the FX animator controller.

[quasi folio]

The animations for the bomb, and the faces, I don’t think they have anything to do with any of this

[ornate stump]

So again, you should not put anything controlled by vrcfury into the FX layer.

[quasi folio]

I didn’t, I made the animations first and put them into the VRCFury toggle

I’ve done it before, everything worked fine when I did

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot what you had in the FX layer?

[ornate stump]

The answer is conflicting, you said you had animations for the bomb in FX layer, but later you said you didn't.

[ornate stump]

You see you put the recording animator into FX layer and had bomb on in as the default state, so that's what make the bomb on by default for state.

[quasi folio]

Huh, that works, didnt know that had effects on anything, thanks a bunch!

[ornate stump]

You should not put the animator controller for recording into FX layer at all.

[balmy gyro]

my avatar's physbones are not working and not visible what do i dooo

[ornate stump]

Screenshot your bone hierarchy where the physbone is put it.

[balmy gyro]

everything works great except physbones

[ornate stump]

https://creators.vrchat.com/common-components/physbones#transforms Read the Caution section.

[fierce thunder]

How do i hide a object for just myself? I'm trying to add a head accessory that's blocking my view. I want to object to still appear in mirrors.

[fierce thunder]

put the phys bone component on the root bone

[balmy gyro]

i did it didnt do anything

[fierce thunder]

make end bones in blender

[balmy gyro]

it has bones and stuff its rigged but idk maybe it just got bugged or something

[fierce thunder]

you are testing the bones while in play mode using gesture manager / ingame right?

[still shuttle]

Add an end point on the y axis

[worn valve]

how do i edit expressions menu?

[balmy gyro]

yeahh

[balmy gyro]

nah i just deleted the project it pissed me of xd

[still shuttle]

You're not gonna learn anything that way lmao

[balmy gyro]

sure buddy

[ornate stump]

Select the expression menu file from below and it will show in the inspector.

[sharp ocean]

If I'm looking at this right you applied phys bones to the end of a bone chain. There needs to be a child bone.
Put the component on the root instead of those two bones and it should work or do what someone else here mentioned and add end bones

[worn valve]

what do i do now?

[ornate stump]

Proceed with how you want to edit it.

[wintry ledge]

Heyy,im having trouble with ears. I got a new model and i wanted to modify it a lil bit,so i changed the position of the ears and streched them so it looks like foxes. The 1st image is original ears, 2nd is my placement and 3rd is whats broken in play mode. I wanna mention the ears have a twitching animation. When i go into playmode they keep the shape but not the position for some reason 🤔 and when i turn off the animation in gesture manager they go back to the correct spot. But i do wanna keep the animation,how is the position tied to it and how can i change it?

[still shuttle]

You don't need endbones if you add an end point on the y axis! It's actually super handy and I use it all the time with physbones that only have one bone

[still shuttle]

I would re- animate the twitching animation to have it in the position you want it. When animating an ear twitch, you animate the position/rotation of the ears so it makes sense that the animation is forcing it to be in its og pose

[wintry ledge]

oh damn,i never messed with animating anything,idk how id make it the same but for a different spot. Also the ears have blendshapes to move them up or down so i thought i could just change the position without messing up the anim

[vale idol]

Hey i dont know if i can ask that here but im trying to add blush to my avatar but theres this sort of noise shadow that i cant get rid of, if anyone can help? :,)

[still shuttle]

animator play audio not playing the audio for some reason. I cant figure out why, I have an audio source connected to it and the audio source is active.

[oak bone]

Maybe cause you have "Stop Audio Source" checked on under "On Enter"? Just a guess

[still shuttle]

I thought so to but I have tried messing with those settings and it still doesnt seem to work. I will try it again tho and see if anything has changed

[oak bone]

I also see you have no audio clip on the right image but I'm unsure if that's a reason

[still shuttle]

if I put an audio clip in there, it only plays the audio clip in source, which i dont want

I want it to play a random audio out of the 4 insterted into the Animator play audio

[somber sequoia]

don't put one in the source itself. not sure if this is the solution but you probably don't want it to play that clip on avatar start

[quartz bone]

Is it possible to have avatar particle systems synced?

Suppose I wanted to be able to throw a particle at someone using inherit velocity

Alternatively, is there a better system I could use to throw things at people from an avatar?

[somber sequoia]

what about this one isn't working for you?

[quartz bone]

It's a really janky setup I made years ago, and it doesn't sync for others

To be fair, I'm not sure the syncing part is actually possible

[somber sequoia]

iirc it is but takes a LOT of variables and is just...okay.

[vapid oar]

How would I go about texturing a model like the cherub one?

Is it just pure hand drawn color

And a toon shader at the end

[mellow scaffold]

does anyone know how to set up an animation from an fbx properly👽

[grand scaffold]

The cherub bot has a pretty complex setup for colours, each skin is stored as an animation which controls a bunch of settings on the material.
Best way is to copy one of the skin animations, modify it to how you want it to look, then figure out how the other ones are setup in the animator and add it to the existing ones

[feral steppe]

I'm trying to recreate the Holographic hat effect from Marty's outfit in 2015 in BTTF 2 using matcaps and I don't know where to go to create or find one

[somber sequoia]

why a matcap?

[feral steppe]

wdym?

[vague spade]

hey! i bought an avi and everytime i join a new world, her clothes come off. her parameters are checked too

[somber sequoia]

by "checked" you mean what?

[vapid oar]

Not skins just the actual process of their texturing style, I think I figured it out though

Just seems to be only flat handpainted color

[vale idol]

The avatar i imported into unity from blender isnt centered, how do i center it? it also says the feet are below the ground but i dont know where the ground is...

[somber sequoia]

center it in blender, make sure it's standing on the origin, and all transforms applied. then export.

[vale idol]

Oh alright thank you

[dark jay]

is it possible to compress animation/emote mb size

[devout elbow]

quick question when uploading a quest version of a avatar you bought do you just upload it into the same project for the pc version and if so what do you do if the textures are just hot pink when you do so?

[naive sentinel]

hot pink probably means missing textures or missing/wrong shaders. So maybe the one you imported has the texture paths wrong or shader dependencies missing

[devout elbow]

ah alrighty ill see what i can try and fix and if i cant figure it out ill just ask for help again thank you for letting me know

[somber sequoia]

I can't think of one but also I doubt that's at all significant compared to meshes and textures

[devout elbow]

does anyone know how to fix this i already changed the shaders to quest allowed ones did i miss another shader thing?

[torpid panther]

Did you check all of your materials? One might have not changed properly, I've had that happen a few times.

[devout elbow]

how do i check all of them?

im still figuring this all out

[torpid panther]

If you have a folder with your materials, you should be able to look at each of them in the inspector. Might take a bit depending on how many you have.

Should be at the bottom section

[devout elbow]

oh alrighty thank you!

[torpid panther]

Np!

[still shuttle]

I am making material swap toggles with decals, they will be in radial puppets, I am wondering if it is possible to make the radial puppets not blend between the textures

[vagrant crater]

Im still having this issue

[hard helm]

i need help uploading.

[somber sequoia]

describe where you are, ask specific questions, share error messages, etc.

[hard helm]

i have a VRM file just need to upload it

[somber sequoia]

convert it to .fbx in Blender, then treat it like any other from-scratch avatar.

(there's an add-on for the .vrm format)

[hard helm]

the thing is i am using a 2015 mac

[somber sequoia]

you'll ultimately need to run Unity, so....

[hard helm]

not supported

[wraith geyser]

help pls, my hand are stucks i dont know why

[somber sequoia]

explain what you're trying to do

[wraith geyser]

just use my gestures, they dont work in gesture manager nor in anim preview

[somber sequoia]

maybe show the animator layer - the what you've shown so far looks fine

[hard helm]

can you keep helping me

[somber sequoia]

help you do what? If you can't run Unity you can't upload an avatar.

[hard helm]

oh

ok

[wraith geyser]

even with nothing in layers the anim preview dont work and with only vrc fury and a few prefabs, in gesture manager it doesnt work either

[somber sequoia]

oh that looks like it's all managed via VRCFury, I have no experience with doing that, sorry.

[wraith geyser]

but this is with no fx layer thats all made by vrcfury

[somber sequoia]

exactly

[wraith geyser]

i had to rename arms and legs bones for gogoloco, do u think it could be the reason why my fingers arent recognized anymore?

[somber sequoia]

Yeah could be a reason. Why would you have to rename bones though?

[wraith geyser]

so when i tried to build with vrcfury and a prefabs i had an error (UpperLeg_R bone cant be found, my bone was named left leg) so i renamed the legs, then when testing gogo loco i noticed my arms were stuck in tpose, so i renamed those too

[somber sequoia]

Those things should not care about bone names, that's weird.

[vague spade]

sorry just noticed ur message

like this:

im not sure why it does it, it just comes off when i join a new world

[full field]

Trying to make a new project, this comes up randomly, im updated to the most recent version

[somber sequoia]

3.10 is the most recent, but also what is this message from?

[full field]

logs in the vcc

after i try to make a new avatar project

[somber sequoia]

ok - no idea which parameter is relevant here but if the default for whatever clothing items you have is off then that'd be the cause, you basically spawn in in default configuration, except for whatever of those parameters you checked "saved" for. You'll probably have to do some debugging to figure out what the problem settings are.

[somber sequoia]

ah, I don't use VCC, that's why I didn't recognize it.

[full field]

💀

[vague spade]

id need it all to be checked?

[somber sequoia]

that isn't at all what I said

check 'saved' on the things you want to have saved, if you don't, those things will be set to the default value at spawn-in.

[vague spade]

it still happens with them checked on unfortunetly which is why im struggling

[somber sequoia]

Must be the effect of some animation then, so you'll have to start debugging those

[vague spade]

my friend told me: "in the FX controller there should be layers for every toggle, make sure the layer that has an arrow from "Entry" is going to the on state" but im not sure how to do that.. im new with unity

[somber sequoia]

haha I just waited 20 minutes for a Substance Painter project to tell me it's failed to save. Great.

[vague spade]

oh no

[somber sequoia]

ah now that it's done processing, it's fine.

[foggy tiger]

Why does it say 80mb here but 222mb in game

[indigo compass]

With such a large difference, you sure you weren't looking at uncompressed size?

[sinful urchin]

So ive made two avatars. Both humanoid and work in a similar way but for one of them the animation works and the other doesnt.

I have made sure the rig is correct to my knowledge and also added the animator component but im not sure why its not working

:,))

here everything feels fine. I have that same yellow warning on my other character too but it works

v confused :,))

[floral onyx]

how do i use these? i am, so confused

[still shuttle]

you put them in their respected slots in a material

I am using poiomi, it will be different if you use different shaders, but for poiomi, base color goes here

[floral onyx]

awesome, thanks

[still shuttle]

normal goes here

and I personally like to put the AO map in a decal and mess with it til it looks good

[wheat spoke]

quick question my avatar has shoes that are togglable and when the shoes are on they clip through the ground? is there any standard way of fixing this?

[mighty basin]

i have a texturing question how do i fix the uv so this doesnt happen at seams

[foggy tiger]

Nope

Uncompressed size is like 137mb

[indigo compass]

Odd, uncompressed should to my understanding always be larger than texture memory.

[foggy tiger]

Yeah could just be bugged and be reading the texture file size from the default import settings and not platform ones

Bc I have the pc overwrite for the import settings

But didn't mess with the default import settings

[hard hatch]

how do I fix invisible parts of a mesh showing up in unity?

in blender, everything looks as it should, but when I import it to unity, there are faces that are see-through

[delicate oriole]

I am trying to set up this avatar for quest 2 but unity is giving me tons of problems and the sdk keeps reporting problems, theres like over 20 and I have been pulling my hair out for about 4 hours now

[hard hatch]

oops nvm I found the solution!!

[chilly solar]

lmfao so i got this moon on the end of my tail and i want it to move with the last bone but stay upright and i put a parent constraint on it and lokced the z and x axis thinking that would work but now when the tail moves even a little the moon flies around why does this happen why is it trying to escape

[rough atlas]

Does vrc still use fallbacks? If im using a pc avi, questies only see like a gray dot or something. how do i make them uh.. actually see something?

[sand verge]

bump

[sharp lily]

(Huge text block incoming)
So I’m making this avatar, first one from scratch, I plan to add several features to it but I don’t know how to do a lot of them and most of them require animations. Just looking for general advice on how to generally do certain specific things.

[sinful urchin]

Heyy! Can anyone help me out how to figure why animation is not working

Any tips on what parts to check to find the problem

[sharp lily]

So I plan to add several props to this avatar, most of them don’t have many complicated features aside from 2.
I also don’t have any experience making toggles without using VRCfury which I don’t think covers some of the things I want to do.

[minor crater]

so i took a long break from vrchat. this avatar needs "VRCFury SPS/Wholesome" i know about vrcfury i think? but what about the other part? do i need to download something extra?

[mild mango]

is anyone here good with contact recievers and senders? im tryna make a system where avatar 1 blushes if avatars 2 and 3 touch their hand (and vice versa, but without 2 and 3 interacting with one another)

avatar 1 and 3 work fine but only avatar 1 blushes
avatar 2 doesnt interact with 1 at ALL despite having the same setup as 3??

im using gogoloco beyond on all of them, so i dont think its that despite someone claiming that breaks it
im genuinely at a loss rn ;-;

heres the video i sent a friend to show the issue

[foggy tiger]

my feet are clipping thru the floor

No clue why

[foggy tiger]

brighter pic

[somber sequoia]

is your steam/headset floor set right?

[foggy tiger]

XDDDD

I wish

[somber sequoia]

you wish it was set right? You can just... set it...

[foggy tiger]

Faulty base stations

but alo this is my only avi that does it

my nardo feet are fine

it's an avi specific problem

[somber sequoia]

then make sure it's standing on the origin in blender

[foggy tiger]

i don't know how :(

I know nothing in blender besides h for hide and s for scale

[stuck oracle]

I'm trying to make an actually half-decent Postal 2 Dude avatar, and to my knowledge there aren't any good avatars that use the Apocalypse Weekend head (which is exponentially higher quality than original release, which is what's usually used), so I wanna use that one, the model is already rigged, but I don't know how to mess with a model with more than one material, and I don't know how to use Unity. Could anyone possibly help me?

I'm using Blender 4.0

[somber sequoia]

basic avatar setup tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwMz4WcajQ

[foggy tiger]

How would I do this though?

Could it be a like collider thing on the unity side maybe also?

[somber sequoia]

a collider wouldn't shift your avatar

[quartz bone]

I need to play psychonauts again

[minor crater]

i just bought a hair and its been marked as malware ive never had that happen before 🙁

is that normal??

[sharp lily]

same.

[ornate stump]

It isn't.

[spark walrus]

You can upload it to virustotal.com to get a scan from a range of antiviruses. Unless you use a good antivirus, like kaspersky, malwarebytes, eset, bitdefender, windows defender (some here not actually good, but has a usecase), it's probably a false positive. If it is, consider ending your subscription to that antivirus and get a good one. for example, avast was caugh spying on its users and selling that info while also being subpar.

[digital wagon]

Guys plis help, what good furry avatars are there?

For free :<

[ornate stump]

Are you looking for public avatar or a model to be used as avatar?

[night ember]

go to vrcarena
its a listing site that is exclusively furry avatars and where to buy them

[digital wagon]

Whats the difference? Im brand new

[digital wagon]

Im broke, no money :<

[night ember]

cool? theres free options as well?

[ornate stump]

Public avatars are already in game and can be used just by clicking at. The latter is to make an avatar which requires more eraborate steps.

[digital wagon]

What type of steps?

Do you know?

[night ember]

blender

unity

[digital wagon]

Oh

[ornate stump]

Lot of computer app usage.

[digital wagon]

Oof

Thanks guys

[sand verge]

I have no idea why I'm getting this error

I have tried so many thumbnails

[ornate stump]

Update your sdk to 3.10

[night ember]

Remove the blueprint id from the pipeline manager
It didnt upload properly the first time but thinks it did

[wanton cedar]

any idea why my mesh does this while im in sculpt mode?

normally looks like this

Ive reset the normals and theres no extra faces behind it

[ornate stump]

Probaby UVmap got changed when you tried to sculpt.

[wanton cedar]

Should I just unwrap it again?

[ornate stump]

If you can remake it to match your texture or viceversa sure.

[wanton cedar]

🙂‍↕️ Alright, thank you

[mild mango]

im still needing help with this if anyone can :"))))

🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
id be forever greatful, ive been stumped all day

[ornate stump]

New account offerring help usually is a scammer.

[mild mango]

gonna jump lowkey

very much so noted :")) gonna block em before i get dm'd then rip

[wide bay]

scammers also say they're not scammers

[ornate stump]

Proof it by answer the question right here.

[wide bay]

[ornate stump]

The question asked by the person you offered your help to.

[wide bay]

the question you offered to help with

[west fable]

does anyone know what this means ive been trying to upload and it uploads fully in unity but doesnt show up at in my uploads..

[night ember]

How dogshit are the stats

[ornate stump]

Some of your avatar performance rating might be excessively high.

[west fable]

hmm okay

ill look into it thank u

[night ember]

Screenshot the stats

Also what very specific unity version and sdk version are you using

[west fable]

im using latest

and 2022 unity

[night ember]

Which 2022 specifically

[west fable]

2022.3.22

[ornate stump]

Should always say specific version.

[night ember]

F1 or f2 or

[west fable]

sdk is 3.10.0

f1

[night ember]

Ok so its not a wrong unity or missmatch

Back to the performance stats

[west fable]

where would i take pic?

[night ember]

The upload window

Where it shows the stats

[west fable]

oh ok hol on

[night ember]

Jeez

[west fable]

its booth models lol

and i only have one outfit on it

[night ember]

How the hell does it have 64 physbone components

[west fable]

ill look into it

i got it down to 32

but the thing it s i had this uploaded before but today i logged on

and it was unaviable

and thats what it said in security checks its a private model

i have two models in the same project too and one of the models was quest compatible but now its not and i tried to upload quest again and it didnt work either

[night ember]

Security checks is both crasher checks and if the avatar even works

[west fable]

oh okk

[night ember]

Sometimes it can upload but not really

Like using wring unity version lets it upload but its corrupted

[west fable]

yeah idk its fully optimzed witha tool i have that optimzed when uploaded

i looked online someone said to contact support

[opal relic]

Heyo, I have created an animation in Blender I would like turned into an anim. file for an emote. How would I go about that?

[open shard]

I'm trying to change a shader on something, but it won't let me?

All the options are just greyed out, and I can't click or change anything

[silent spruce]

create new material and put it in the material slot

[open shard]

How does one do that?

[open shard]

I don't know much about Unity so

[silent spruce]

right click in assets folder to bring up this menu

[silent spruce]

then click on the mesh, drop down the "materials" and drag and drop the material you just made into the slot

[open shard]

It changed the material, but now the object is just grey...

I'm trying to match the material of it to the avatars material which is a poi toon shader

[silent spruce]

yeah, now u can customize the material

change the shader to poi and put all ur textures in it

[open shard]

Is there an easier way to do this? Because idek all the textures and stuff needed to make it look right-

[silent spruce]

wdym easier way

[open shard]

Like an easier way to make it look correct without manually changing everything

Besides it's not letting me change stuff like this

I just click around and it opens an image???

[silent spruce]

i assume you are adding a asset to a avatar, sometimes they come with .unitypackage files that contain premade materials

[silent spruce]

drag and drop ur texture into the box

[open shard]

Right

[silent spruce]

but yeah unity is a pretty big learning curve, there are a bunch of tutorials online that will tell u how to do stuff if u would like to learn

[open shard]

I literally have zero idea what I'm doing atp

I dragged and dropped the texture I needed I think but it looks nothing like the skintone

[silent spruce]

i get it lmao i was there once

i dont know exactly what you are doing so i cant help much, but avatar creators usually do a lot with their materials and i could walk u through how to do everything but that would take like forever lmao

[silent spruce]

if anything i reccomend u duplicate the material that u want it to look like and replace the textures

[open shard]

Man idek how to do that

[silent spruce]

yea

[open shard]

The new material on the object I'm editing and stuff but the material or whatnot on the skintone is like already there

But idk how to change it

And everything you suggested I do just makes it look weird

So idek what to do atp

[silent spruce]

what are u trying to add to the avatar

[open shard]

Wholesome lolipop thingy

[silent spruce]

ohhhhhhhhhhh

that has a material generator that sets it up for you

they have tutorials in their server and on their product page

[open shard]

Oh really?

[silent spruce]

yes

[open shard]

Guess I should probably try that

[silent spruce]

yep

gl!!

[open shard]

Thanks for your help nonetheless ^^

[sand verge]

??????????

the console literally just says "failed to upload file" like bro

[ornate stump]

#avatar-help message

[open shard]

Sorry for bothering you again, but I can't seem to really find much information about it in the discord nor on the product page

[silent spruce]

i dont remeber exactly where to look, but ask someone for help in that server

i cant help u in too much detail here lmao

[open shard]

Fair lol

[ornate stump]

It's better to just not use it if you're very new to avatar creation.

[open shard]

Well... I have to learn somehow I guess

Besides, Wholesome looks and works good so-

[silent spruce]

good luck man

[ornate stump]

You will get into more trouble if you don't actually know what you're doing.

[open shard]

Right...

The whole entire object just deforms anyways into weird shapes the second I try to change the material

So I might just give up for tonight

Idfk how to fix it

Siggghhhhhh

Thank you two for your help

[sinful urchin]

Hey my rig is supposed to be fine and i feel like ive checked everything but my avatar is still T-posing in VRChat. Any help is very much appreciated :,)) Sorry for the spam my message keeps getting lost

[ornate stump]

What "everything" that you had checked?

[sinful urchin]

I checked that I have the animator component

I put it to humanoid

I made sure I configured the rig

im making two avatars who p much work the same way but this doesnt work and the other does

[ornate stump]

Does the sdk show any warning in the build panel? Take screenshot to confirm.

[sinful urchin]

it only shows the yellow triangle but my other avatar has it too and that works :,))

[ornate stump]

Try using move tool and move some bones in Armature. See if the mesh follows the move bone.

[sinful urchin]

oh my god...

what is this diva doing

Lemme do the rig again in blender 💀

[ornate stump]

Did you also actually test in pose mode in blender ?

[sinful urchin]

that model did work before idk truly what happened

thats why I remember trying it out

🤔

anyway thank you im a newbie so i still keep forgetting what should i check so helped out a lot 💃

[sand verge]

I have absolutely no idea but it's saying now that I don't even have a thumbnail???

[ornate stump]

Try closing the sdk panel and open it back.

[sand verge]

I did, reloaded the sdk and everything

[ornate stump]

Also Detach blueprint ID in pipeline manager component if it had one.

[sand verge]

yep, did that

trying again

nope

ughh

[ornate stump]

Also try restarting unity

[sand verge]

I've done that

There's no reason why this should be happening, the old sdk worked perfectly

I was going to just downgrade the sdk but I can't

here's the error

[quasi wagon]

yeah, you can't.
#announcements message

[proven quail]

They really should make sure they have a working version of the SDK before forcing an update 🤦‍♀️

[round comet]

Fr was so confused when 3.10.0 was throwing errors and thought it was my fault

But when I use older SDKs its fine </3

[proven quail]

time to update all my projects to a broken sdk because vrchat is depreciating the older working versions 😭

[gloomy veldt]

hi! Im trying to make myself an avatar, and ive just started the retopology part of it and im hitting a lot of blocks (my first time trying to retopologize) so thought id ask here.

Im getting quite confused about how my model would work with physbones and stuff because of the way certain parts are. I’ve tried to highlight my main questions in the image.
I also do want to know if everything for the avatar has to be all one mesh, or if i can have multiple meshes connected to one armature for rigging? cuz everywhere ive looked online says different things.

sorry if my questions are confusing, i dont really know the right terms as im still a beginner at blender T_T’
any help would be super appreciated!!

[round comet]

My alcom force downgrades it to 3.9 whenever I try 3.10 HAHA

[round comet]

You can separate the meshes if you prefer that

Maybe seperate the ears in case you’re worried, but you should be ok as long as you weightpaint the ears and not the horns

As for clipping, you can add an angle limiter to your physbone

Or even try a collider on the head of some sort

For the brows, not sure— and for tufts I’d assume you’d need to rig them yeh

[hidden anchor]

Hi! Im trying to add facial expressions to hand gestures and I got them to work on pc but when I upload the same model for quest, none of the gestures work within vr, gestures are not toggled off, anyone know how I can trouble shoot it?

I turned off write defaults and thats how it worked in the pc version of vrc

[round comet]

The hand gestures themselves or the facial expressions don’t function

[hidden anchor]

facial expressions

That I linked to the gestures

[round comet]

ye

[torn crypt]

Your Quest upload isn’t using the same animation controllers as the PC upload.
Switch to Android build → Check your Avatar Descriptor → Re-assign your FX and Gesture controllers.

[hidden anchor]

Got it Ill try it out

[hidden anchor]

Just FX? or do I assign anything to gesture?

[torn crypt]

Assign BOTH: FX and Gesture.
For Quest, you must have:
Gesture layer → controls hand gestures
FX layer → controls facial expressions

[hidden anchor]

👍

I’ll lyk if it works or not

[open shard]

I managed to fix it

[silent spruce]

good job

[fluid remnant]

._.
So I have a small problem...

Hang on I think I can fix this

I didn't fix it ._.

[fluid remnant]

Well now I have new problems. Luckly these got resolved.

[plush osprey]

Can someone tell me the physbone limit for quest .,. Whenever I upload my model for quest every physbone gets disabled

[somber sequoia]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system#mobile-limits

oh wrong section, it's the one just below

[plush osprey]

mb, thank you tho ^^

[somber sequoia]

no I meant that I linked the wrong section, you're fine 🙂

[plush osprey]

ohh ok

[fluid remnant]

How do I fix these errors?

[somber sequoia]

looks like a networking issue

assuming those are the only 3 errors

[fluid remnant]

They are.

[glacial zephyr]

Hello, looking for someone who may upload one avatar, 3 versions into my VRCHAT safely

[somber sequoia]

don't share your credentials. but if you want to commission someone, head over to the VRC Traders discord, you'll just find scammers around here.
Link is in #1204490664637890580

[fluid remnant]

It is a png....
What does this mean???

[somber sequoia]

it's a bug in some SDK versions - are you using 3.10?

[fluid remnant]

Checking...

Uh, how do I check for version?

[glacial zephyr]

Thanks, I did not understand all what u said as "not sharing credentials" , I will ask deepseek, OK thanks for the link

[somber sequoia]

don't share your username and password to strangers

[somber sequoia]

your package manager (vcc, alcom, etc) or in the unity package management window

[fluid remnant]

VRChat SDK - Base Version: 3.9.0
VRChat SDK - Avatars Version: 3.9.0

[somber sequoia]

buggy, I suggest using 3.10

[fluid remnant]

Upgrading...

Upgraded. Attempting to reupload...

[fluid remnant]

Uploaded! Thank you!

[somber sequoia]

excellent 🙂

[worthy vector]

Hi Fax

[gloomy breach]

Does anyone know how people are making MochiFitter profiles for avatars?

I have an avatar file that still doesn't have a profile and I wanna know how to make one

[modest ridge]

does anyone have a prefab for a working headpat animation+sound, im literally trying to add this for over a week now, i just cant get it to work. i wasted about 15 hours watching tutorials and it just wont work

at this point im even willing to pay money for it because its so damn frustrating

[somber sequoia]

no prefab, but it's not too hard to setup, what do you have now and what isn't working?

[modest ridge]

the sound does not get activated, im just done i want something that works with drag and drop, not wasting any more time on this

[somber sequoia]

okay then

[sand verge]

dude im so frustrated because I'm trying to work on a comm too and I can't make a build ;_;

[somber sequoia]

that error seems network related

[sand verge]

The thing is that I have ethernet that can run pc vr

There's really no reason why it should be giving me that error

[somber sequoia]

there's lots of networking between you and VRChat's servers though

[sand verge]

What can I do?

[round comet]

Try 3.9.0 mayhabs too

[somber sequoia]

3.9.0 is pretty buggy, I wouldn't

[round comet]

I was having build issues with 3.10.0 too agh

[round comet]

[sand verge]

I'm going to try 3.8.2

That one always worked

[somber sequoia]

ah that one was awful for me, nothing after 3.7 was good

[sand verge]

3.7 was perfect ;-;

[lament elbow]

Can someone explain this error code to me?

[somber sequoia]

there's really not much more detail there past the very first line, unfortunately

[sand verge]

3.8.2 worked perfectly fine without me changing anything <_<

[somber sequoia]

just now? hmm maybe submit a canny report then

[mortal knoll]

my avatar wont upload

i see this but idk what it means

[mortal knoll]

i clicked on my avi and my compressor showed this

[somber sequoia]

"deprecated" means it's old and not used anymore. I assume here (I don't use fury much) that it can just be removed.

[mortal knoll]

oh ok

lemme try

i also used these

cuz my avatar needs vrcfury

it failed.

: (

im such a fail at dis vro

[somber sequoia]

you might look in the console for an error message

[somber sequoia]

"missing script" is the issue

[mortal knoll]

o

[somber sequoia]

install whatever thing you didn't install, check the avatar or asset creators' documentation for clues as to what it might be

[mortal knoll]

0-0

[somber sequoia]

oh "grounder" - it's probably FinalIK

[mortal knoll]

pic on how to fix?

[somber sequoia]

there's no pic for "go install the FinalIK package"

[mortal knoll]

no i ment u send one

[somber sequoia]

VRLabs has a stub package that'll probably work without you having to purchase Final IK

[mortal knoll]

goober

[somber sequoia]

pic of what? I have no picture for this

[mortal knoll]

oh

uh

nvm

i will do what u said

i installed

goo goo gaga im dum :p

but when iimported into unity still wouldnt upload btw

[somber sequoia]

without sharing error messages, or reasons, we can't help

[mortal knoll]

oh yeh i forgot lol gimme a min

[somber sequoia]

errors are the red ones, those are warnings or info messages, not going to prevent uploading.

[mortal knoll]

okay

lemme get a pic

only 13 error just so u know

[somber sequoia]

well that top one is still there, and still going to block you

[mortal knoll]

hmmm

what should i do, doc?

[somber sequoia]

I said - install whatever requirement is missing.
You could also remove the object with the broken script.

[mortal knoll]

mhm

lemme try

deleting all my ik

cuz that works when i do it

[somber sequoia]

I was guessing it was Final IK, but you'd probably want to check the documentation that came with whatever that asset is, see what the creator says it requires.

[mortal knoll]

it said what it needed

and i got it all downloaded

[somber sequoia]

well something's still missing

[mortal knoll]

hm

i checked and all the avio needed was vrcfury and poyomi toon, i imported that to my avi

[somber sequoia]

that thing that's called "Grounder" seems to need something extra, and the name of it suggests Final IK, but it could be something else.

[mortal knoll]

where do i find grounder or final ik?

[somber sequoia]

I thought you installed it after I told you this the first time?

[mortal knoll]

my memory sucks

[somber sequoia]

this was in the last 10 minutes or so, right there in scrollback

[mortal knoll]

ok me check

i dont get what u ment vro

[somber sequoia]

can you be more specific?

[mortal knoll]

k

instead can u say it again

pls

[somber sequoia]

say what again?

[mortal knoll]

i installed the ik

u said smth abt that

[somber sequoia]

Yes, I told you to install FinalIK or the VRLabs FinalIK stub, because my guess is that's what's required.

[mortal knoll]

i installed it

the finalik

and it didnt upload when i tried

[somber sequoia]

Again, "didn't upload" is not useful information. Did you get the same missing script error as before?

[mortal knoll]

yes

it said the same thing

[somber sequoia]

then either you didn't install that right, or that is not the correct requirement.

[gilded vector]

I'm trying to work on an particle animation for the first time and im basically completely in the dark about where to start. ive got audio i wanna sync up to it ready (10 secs. in length) and I have basic/decent knowledge about how to animate in unity ( for most toggles at least) , i just need some pointers on where to start and "turn the lights on" metaphorically

(TLDR: where should i start when animating audio & particles for an avatar?)

[mortal knoll]

what do i do

[nova flicker]

does anyone know if the Stretch n Squish physbones, need to have 2 bones? or you can work with only one bone ?

[somber sequoia]

you need at least 2 for anything to work (or the endpoint position)

I thought stretch/squish needed two actual bones too

[nova flicker]

hmmm i see.
Im tryna add that to my avatar, but it has 1 bone for the parts. but I added an endpoint to it.
But im testing out the physbones in gesture emulator.
im clicking n dragging the physbones, but i dont see it squish nor stretch

OH..

[somber sequoia]

I don't see that in the docs though so no idea where I read that

yeah zero mention of bone counts there, annoying

[mortal knoll]

what finalIK do u reccommend

[nova flicker]

yeah exactly

[somber sequoia]

I told you twice already?

[nova flicker]

ya think End-bones would work fine? or should I manually add a 2nd bone

[mortal knoll]

i have adhd

and im dumb

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure but I bet you need two+ actual bones for this

[mortal knoll]

• bad memory

T-T

[nova flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[somber sequoia]

luckily we have discord scrollback

[nova flicker]

ok ty :c

[mortal knoll]

yeh i checked everything

when i click the error nothing happens icl

[somber sequoia]

clicking the error doesn't do anything

[mortal knoll]

oh

then how do i fix the error

wait did i alr ask that

[somber sequoia]

yes, and I've answered it several times now, I'm not going to again.

[mortal knoll]

1 last time

man i came out of the hospital after hitting my head hard on the ground

i got brain damage

plus ur making no sence vro

[somber sequoia]

Happy to explain something specific if you didn't understand it.

[mortal knoll]

i dont understand how to fix errors

[somber sequoia]

I told you my best guess at how to fix that specific one.

[mortal knoll]

but i dont understand

[somber sequoia]

exactly what about it don't you understand?

[mortal knoll]

my keyboard tweakin

i cant even type the right words

i deleted ik and it uploaded

i think

[mortal knoll]

it worked

so yeh thx for helping

[stuck oxide]

does anyone know how to use cutout/alpha maps with rero im confused

[somber sequoia]

if there's no slot, probably it'd use the alpha channel of the base color texture

[mild mango]

day 2 searching for help :")))

i got the stupid contact recievers and senders to work BUT it only works on one end, the other end just keeps flashing false and not actually turning true

im so lost

[elder nova]

Anyone know how to fix this error??

I’m not too tech savvy so I don’t know what to do

[somber sequoia]

usually that's not one you actually need to fix

[elder nova]

It won’t upload the avatar because of it

[somber sequoia]

no other errors? No blockers in the build window?

[quasi trail]

I have an avatar with a hair texture on it, when I upload to pc it's fine because I can use the standard shader to make the hair cutout, but I can't do that on quest, anybody know a shader that could work for quest that would look okay on hair for quest?

[elder nova]

Nope just that

[somber sequoia]

without knowing what you're trying to achieve the only answer we could give is to use one of the mobile shaders - standard if you're not going toony, or the newish toon one if you are.

[chilly solar]

so i have this transparent part of the body with a transparent skeleton inside. the skeleton is on a different material than the body. the skeleton isnt visible when the inside part of the body is behind it. its only visible if whats behind it is the transparent part of the body. idk if this makes sense, but is there a way i can fix it?

also the quest version of this avi has a cut out part instead of a transparent part for the skeleton to be visible but the body mesh only has one sided faces, can i make them 2 sided or should i duplicate the mesh so it can be seen

didnt even realize somehow but you can see the chest fluff from inside the body, dont want that either :c

[mortal knoll]

i cant add matirials to my avi

its a v-bot base drone

(ignore my grammar pls)

[quasi trail]

I'll give you an example, here's how it looks on PC vs how it looks on quest.

I tried the mobile particles shaders, but they either change the color of the hair or make it glow.

The other mobile shaders don't seem to help either.

[somber sequoia]

the first one seems to have a poiyomi shader error, that's interesting

ohh I see, it's got transparency, yeah, you'll have to work around that

[quasi trail]

Any ideas?

[somber sequoia]

cut out the mesh? I don't really do much quest stuff

[quasi trail]

I just don't get why transparency is prohibited on quest to begin with.

[somber sequoia]

because it's very expensive for the mobile GPU in the quest to render

[foggy tiger]

I figured out what this meant and i moved the model up a little now I gotta redo all the assets for a 3rd time or at teh very least move all the bones every so slightly up

[somber sequoia]

did you apply all transforms in Blender?

(do so if you didn't)

[hollow jay]

Been having a bunch of troubel trying to get an avatar to upload, been doing all i can think of, using a VPN, downgrading the SDK, upgrading the SDK, fresh rebooting my pc, making an entirely new project, it seems to get all the way to the end and then fails at the last hurdle somehow and it refuses to upload, hoping to try get some help with this, thank you!

[foggy tiger]

It's bc I manually linked the asset armatures

I don't use vrcfury to link them and I can't be asked to link them in blender

[somber sequoia]

not what I asked about, but okay. I didn't think anyone did that method anymore.

[foggy tiger]

Vrcfury broke my avatar irreperably one time

So I don't use it anymore

Honestly I don't even use it if an asset comes with it other than gogoloco

[foggy tiger]

I didn't apply all transforms, but I was letting u know that's not why I gotta fix my assets

What does applying all transforms do?

[somber sequoia]

makes it so the object origin is the world origin rather than the object being somewhere else

so the default position and rotation is 0,0,0, and scale is 1,1,1

[foggy tiger]

Fair enough

I'll try it

but this avatar model is so different from the nardo

The nardo I gotta export with fbx all and this I export with all local to get it to work

[somber sequoia]

that's strange

it does happen though.

[foggy tiger]

Thank god it's only 5 assets I gotta readd tho

I really hope I'm not floating above the ground now :(

[foggy tiger]

Is there a way to move the avatar up just in unity?

Like can I just move the package up by another 0.015 like this and it'll be fine?

I don't wanna waste another hour if I don't have to

Maybe the armature?

[unreal pasture]

standing like it constantly needs to pee how to fix

[elder nova]

Still having this issue no clue how to fix

[elder nova]

Please I need to get these done

[cedar parcel]

anyone know how to get this shader look? id like to have it on my shinano

[tame surge]

Real quick, would anybody know why after merging two armatures Im unable to move anything in Pose mode despite all of the weight painting still being there after checking the vertex groups?

[somber sequoia]

Armature modifier pointing at the wrong armature, or none

[tame surge]

Armature modifier is pointing to the only armature left in the scene

[somber sequoia]

ah well, it was a guess

[tame surge]

Thank you, Ive just been headbutting my keyboard for hours

[somber sequoia]

that's how it is sometimes, unfortunately

[foggy tiger]

I personally need a way to do this because I messed up my model trying to do it in blender

[cedar parcel]

id make a copy of the project and try it

[somber sequoia]

why are you trying to do this?

[foggy tiger]

my avatar is in the floor bc the mesh is below the origin in blender

[somber sequoia]

yeah you really should be fixing that in Blender.

[foggy tiger]

but i messed up the model by just moving the mesh up

I alr tried and now the whole avatar is messed up

the claws sink into my hand when i do the hand open gesture now

and the tips of the pointer claws are also messed up

I got a backup of the model, but I really need a fix from the unity side of things

[somber sequoia]

it's not really going to be a fix if you do this in Unity

[foggy tiger]

as long as I'm not in the floor and my hands aren't messed up I'll take a ghetto "fix"

[somber sequoia]

you could try just playspacing up or something

[foggy tiger]

I gotta move my avatar up by 5 or 6 cm for it to be on the ground

[somber sequoia]

oh that's a lot

[foggy tiger]

then my legs stay fully extended bc they are technically hovering

[somber sequoia]

seems like a ghetto fix

[foggy tiger]

doesn't fix it tho

[somber sequoia]

nope

[elder nova]

This error is going to piss me off I need help

[foggy tiger]

space drag doesn't change where my model hits the floor

[somber sequoia]

That error is pretty meaningless without context, you won't find a fix by just reposting it constantly

[foggy tiger]

i need a unity way of raising it since I can't do it in blender

[somber sequoia]

any way you do this in unity is going to be kinda broken

[foggy tiger]

not more broken than how it is rn

[somber sequoia]

yeah probably would be

[foggy tiger]

you wanna fix it for me in blender then because I have no clue how

[somber sequoia]

not for free

[elder nova]

I slapped a unity package in clicked upload and I keep getting this error. And I have no idea what this means so I can’t really give context. And it blocks my ability to upload it unless I close and reopen the project

[cedar parcel]

i can take a look at it in a little, currently playing overwatch with my girlfriend

[foggy tiger]

i went into edit mode, pressed a and raised the model by 3.5 cm, went back out of edit mode and exported and my model was broken in game

what step did i miss?

[somber sequoia]

it's referring to an issue in some code somewhere, but without knowing where, who knows what to do about it. have you tried restarting unity?

[somber sequoia]

at the least, applying all transforms, which I believe I said more than once

wait, in edit mode?

interesting.

[foggy tiger]

If anyhing thats what broke it because itwasn't broken before when not applying them

[somber sequoia]

if you do that you'd probably need to completely redo the rig setup - switch to generic and apply, then back to humanoid and do that whole thing again.

[foggy tiger]

becase that doesn't change the oriin

[somber sequoia]

but selecting all and going into edit isn't quite going to work since that wouldn't edit all objects, they have different types

if you move just the meshes then they'll be out of position on the armature.

[foggy tiger]

I literally asked the blender server for help and they said in edit mode raise the model since that won't move the origin with it

[elder nova]

Yeah multiple times I even updated the sdk and everything because it says it’s an error with the sdk avatar builder.cs:206

[somber sequoia]

that's not code we have access to, maybe submit a bug report. Is this SDK 3.10?

[elder nova]

Yup I’ll do a bug report then. Thank you for the help

[somber sequoia]

ah actually we can see that source file

not that it helps

[foggy tiger]

they also said smthn with the 3d cursor but that's even further out of my skill range and knowledge areas of blender

saying I could move the cursor and set the origin to it

[somber sequoia]

I'm watching Unity sit here at 1257% CPU right now just trying to open a world project, so.....

[foggy tiger]

not a clue in the world how, i'm just parroting what they said

[somber sequoia]

Yeah - you put the 3D cursor at the origin then set the origin of the various objects to the 3D cursor, I do this a lot

[foggy tiger]

idek how to move let alone do shit with it

[somber sequoia]

is this a bought avatar? ask the creator to fix it maybe?

[foggy tiger]

it's the wickerbeast base

it's old as heck

If it hasn't been updated in years, why would they updare it now for one random idiot on the internet who can't even do basic blender shit

[somber sequoia]

I was thinking that if it's broken the creator should fix it, but maybe I'm wrong.

[foggy tiger]

It's just old

Probably wasn't broken when it was updated last

Probably a unity or sdk update broke it

[somber sequoia]

neither of those things edit your model

[foggy tiger]

can I just like make an animation to move the armature up by like 5cm in unity

and have a parameter set to keep that always on

would that work?

[somber sequoia]

afaik no.

[foggy tiger]

bc ik the armature also moves the mesh

[foggy tiger]

So I just wasted $70?

base + assets

[somber sequoia]

I have no comment on your finances

[foggy tiger]

Well if there's no way to fix it in unity and I can't fix it in blender then I wasted my money

can't use the assets without the base but the base is unfixable

pics are of the claws being messed up after moving the model in blender

[somber sequoia]

yeah if you move the mesh around but not the armature, I could see that happening

[foggy tiger]

why tf does edit mode just not edit the model then

[somber sequoia]

what's "the model"?

[foggy tiger]

i hit a for all

a should be all

[somber sequoia]

you can't edit objects of different types at the same time

[foggy tiger]

blender actually makes me wish I was dead, I can't think of a single worse piece of "professional" software

[somber sequoia]

ah I love Blender

[foggy tiger]

it's like they specifically tried to make it user unfrendly

so many pointless changes and shitty design choices

[somber sequoia]

I disagree, but I have the perspective of actually knowing how to use it.

[foggy tiger]

the manual sucks and they force you to rely on it since everything is named backwards af or is hidden behind 50 context menus

what reason is there to remove the "rename" button from the context menu when u right click smthn in the side bar

[somber sequoia]

I don't recall there being such a thing, but you can just double-click the name of the thing to rename it, it works for most things in lists.

[foggy tiger]

yeah I know, but that makes no logical sense to have made that be the only way to rename things

right clicking and renaming has been a thing for over 3 decades

[somber sequoia]

it has?

[foggy tiger]

windows 3 i think let u do it

but at the very least 95 did

[somber sequoia]

oh you're using Windows as your basis, I see.

[foggy tiger]

windows started it and it became a standard for good reason

it's intuitive

[somber sequoia]

windows stole all of its UI elements from other things

and saying something is "intuitive" when it's only so because you're used to it isn't really accurate. I get what you're saying, but windows is far from intuitive.

[foggy tiger]

honestly this is horrible rage bait

[somber sequoia]

if you say so

[foggy tiger]

it's not about windows

it's about blender changing stuff that's been pretty much standard for decades for no reason

[somber sequoia]

a) your standards aren't necessarily everyone's b) a lot of changes they've made to UI stuff has been for consistency, so things work the same way across all parts of the UI.

[foggy tiger]

and it being a "professional program" isn't an excuse since everyone loves to say that

[somber sequoia]

I worked at a "professional" CG studio. Couldn't find much consistency in any of the UIs of the applications we used, everyone had their own way they thought things should be. I'm still annoyed every time I have to try to navigate in Substance Painter and it's totally different than everything else.

[foggy tiger]

Ya know, you almost got me with this one

[somber sequoia]

it didn't help either that Autodesk kept buying other companies then sorta but not really trying to make the UIs kinda consistent.

[somber sequoia]

not sure what you mean, I'm not trying to 'get' anyone

I honestly can't remember blender ever having the rename option you say it did

[foggy tiger]

I didn't say it had one

[somber sequoia]

I only really got using it in the 3.0 days though

...

I must have lost the point of this conversation somewhere

[foggy tiger]

i said they removed it because 99% of other programs have rename in the context menu

[somber sequoia]

that doesn't make sense

[foggy tiger]

howso?

[somber sequoia]

why would one do that, for that reason?

can you find the changelog entry about it? those are public

[foggy tiger]

well idk if it ever had one

[somber sequoia]

...

why am I even bothering

[foggy tiger]

all ik is that most other programs have it

[somber sequoia]

ok so you're ranting that it doesn't work the way you want it to? okay, got it.

[foggy tiger]

blender seemingly doesn't just to be different

[somber sequoia]

objection: pure speculation

[foggy tiger]

it makes no logical sense to why something so insignificant couldn't be kept

[somber sequoia]

what do you mean kept? you just said you don't know if even existed

[foggy tiger]

i say kept because it's fairly standardized feature

and they broke away from that

unity, paint.net, photoshop, visual studio, and plenty of other programs all have a rename feature in a context menu at the very least. I think that quantifies a standard

rider, intellij, eclipse ide

fl studio, renoise, band lab

[somber sequoia]

I think I've used two of those things 🙂

actually both of them are the same thing anyway.

[foggy tiger]

it's just one of way too many miniscule minute changes that all add up to blender just being different for no logical reason as to why at face value and I've not heard a single valid reason from anyone explaing why.

[foggy tiger]

okay

[foggy tiger]

UI consistency makes no sense if they aren't being consistent with most other programs out there

[somber sequoia]

other than the classic IBM CUA guidelines, I'm not sure there are really standards

certainly are a lot of commonalities, but "standards" is pushing it.

[foggy tiger]

4/10 bait

[somber sequoia]

not sure why you keep saying that, you're the one ranting and I'm just adding comments. happy to just stop.

[foggy tiger]

almost had me but i realized pretty quick

You're obviously being hyper literal to rage bait

[somber sequoia]

not even in the slightest

I'm stating my honest opinions, nothing more.

[foggy tiger]

it's really not that hard to figure out lol.

[somber sequoia]

cool, if you don't want to believe me, then I've got nothing further to say to you.

[foggy tiger]

was literally just typing bye since you don't wanna be serious XD.

[somber sequoia]

I was being serious the whole time here.

[foggy tiger]

at least we can agree when to end the convo, cya

[quaint badger]

Question because I'm a bit stumped I got everything working on my avatar the only thing i cant figure out is how to get the Gesture Disable button to work in the face tracking menu so I can just use face tracking and not hand gestures i don't know how to make it work?? If anyone knows it would be super helpful

[somber sequoia]

last I checked it just sets a variable that you have to use as a condition for your expression animation transitions

I forget which offhand though, would have to look

FacialExpressionsDisabled

[junior void]

Yep

Gotta add that to conditions

[somber sequoia]

delayed 'cause I was still starting unity after my system just outright powered off

and smart me had my blender recovery file on /tmp, which of course gets wiped on boot

[red aspen]

So I need help trying to find a feature to upgrade my avatar but the one I tried is outdated and doesn’t work anymore trying to get a camera avatar preview similar to what cyberchimp has does anyone have an idea on what to do been at this for months

[somber sequoia]

iirc you have the camera output to a RenderTexture and put that as the base texture in a material somewhere. Haven't tried it myself though

[night ember]

The one I sent you does in fact work

[red aspen]

Noted

[heady dirge]

Shoulder.R and Shoulder.L dont have the same weights, i dont know what happened, but when i hitted symmetrize it didnt, how do i transfer or copy the weight of Shoulder.L to Shoulder.R, theres absolutly no weight on Shoulder.R

and when i copy vertex groups this msg appears

[vague eagle]

Any luck yet friend

[timid kite]

how did this happen and how do i fix it? they are fine in blender

[timid kite]

normal

[timid kite]

in play mode with gesture manager feet are crooked

[timid kite]

when i set up the rig feet are crooked there too

[foggy tiger]

Moving the armature undid the fix that moving the mesh did for my avi being in the floor. Out of play mode the avatar is where it should be, both the mesh and and armature above the floor (image 1). When I go into play mode though the mesh and armature goes back into the floor (image 2). In blender both the armature and and mesh are above the origin (image 3) and when exporting I tried both applying transforms and not applying transforms. Unity keeps treating the model as if it's back to how it was initially before I moved the model up so I put the model back to its original position (image 4) and I didn't get a picture but I moved the origin instead of the mesh up and exported it but that didn't change it clipping into the floor. I didn't try not applying transforms when exporting after moving the origin.

[somber sequoia]

First guess is bone roll is not 0 for those main armature bones

[timid kite]

on the foot bone

[somber sequoia]

yep, - but I was thinking the bones above it. Either way, it should almost always be 0 for all of the main humanoid bones. Fingers/toes can be whatever is needed.

[timid kite]

knee roll is 0.337233d

[somber sequoia]

okay?

[timid kite]

i mean i can just import a new body and all but i already have clothes on this armature. idk how well would it all transfer

[somber sequoia]

you can just overwrite the .fbx file

... assuming you didn't unpack the avatar prefab. If you did, redo it all and don't do that again 🙂

[timid kite]

yep i got that

[somber sequoia]

Great, it should be pretty easy then.

[heady dirge]

im using cats blender plugin as always but now, when i finished makin, Oh, CH and AA blendshapes and tried to create the other visemes, it didnt work

is there a way to fix it

[keen garnet]

Helloooo I'ma big time avatar creation noob so don yell at me, I'm trying to switch my avatar to quest compatible but I keep getting this error and I don't know how to fix 🙁 can anyone help me?

[somber sequoia]

that's the latest cats, right? Did they update that for Blender 5 yet?

[somber sequoia]

probably look at the discussion history in #quest-optimization for clues, but the basics are that you need to reduce the size of things, usually it's textures, sometimes it's meshes.

[keen garnet]

That's the thing, I made every texture like microscopic size and if it's a mesh, how would I go about optimizing that?, sorry for asking this question in this channel btw

[heady dirge]

why does my avatar using gogoloco, is not placed correctly on the floor? is there a way to fix this? either in unity or blender?

[zinc sail]

Is anyone's VRCSDK also not loading at all?

I tried booting up two different projects (with new and old VRCSDK) and I seem to have this issue.
Even after deleting the VRCSDK and adding it back, it didn't fix the issue.

[somber sequoia]

I literally just published an avatar

[zinc sail]

Why is my VRCSDK messing up?!

[foggy tiger]

Any other options I can try for having my avatar not be in the ground?

I even tried using an animation in unity to move my armature up. That didn't work either though.

I'm completely out of ideas

[junior void]

The position is set by the origin. You could check where it is first

[foggy tiger]

It's at 0,0,0

I moved it to 0,0,-0.05 which is below the feet

But that didn't change anything in game, my feet still clipped through the floor

I didn't try not applying transformations on export though

[balmy barn]

add cube place where feet are in unity, go into playmode with av3/ect watch it sink ( locomotion )

[still shuttle]

What blender export settings do I need to prevent having to do this with my physbones?
The radius of my physbones is abnormally huge unless I do what is seen in the screenshot and Im pretty certain it has to do with the avatars scaling? but im not certain

[balmy barn]

fbx all something, i just use cats 99.9% of the time (here is its default)

[still shuttle]

I also use cats to export usually but im working on a unity comm and the person who made the avi doesnt want to use cats for exporting

[balmy barn]

sometime i dont , i notice its 100' times the size

[still shuttle]

I will try this and see if it helps

[somber sequoia]

FBX All, turn off leaf bones (under armature).

[still shuttle]

yess always turn off leaf bones I hate leaf bones

[ocean berry]

why does it say that when it's clearly wrong?

[balmy barn]

set generic and back to humanoid , look for rig errors

[ocean berry]

I fixed it, it was because of a pen

(a asset but a single pen sounds more funny)

[placid mica]

Is it possible to export an entire model from Unity to Blender while preserving transforms and blendshapes made in unity?

I've been working on a model and want to optimize it, but there's lots of maticulously placed items in Unity that I dont want to have to redo

[ocean berry]

if you are using an fbx, you can import it into blender no addons needed

[placid mica]

Yes, but I want things like transforms made in unity to be preserved. Is that possible?
For example, I have my model and then I have a seperate FBX of a hat for it that I have already positioned in unity. Is there a way to export it so I wont have to place it back onto the head in blender?

[ocean berry]

from the fbx's I have imported the blendshapes were there

it's a form of animation so most programs should have them

[placid mica]

Heres my problem.
I have an exported FBX using Unity's "Export to FBX" package add-on. It looks fine. (First Image) But when I import that FBX into Blender, I am greeted by this amalgamation (Second Image). Why is this happening? Is it my import settings?

[somber sequoia]

yeah you probably don't want to be using that, it's going to be a mess. It'd be better to import the assets into Blender and rework/combine/etc there then export the result of that into Unity, and assume the blender->unity path is one-way.

[placid mica]

Thank you for your straightforward answer. Its unfortunate to hear that, but I'm not suprised.

[somber sequoia]

Yes, even if it seems like more work up front.

[ocean berry]

more work is better for your sanity sometimes

[somber sequoia]

oh absolutely

[foggy tiger]

How do I calibrate the locomotion?

I never heard of that b4

Did it mess up because I have gogoloco with vrcfury or smthn?

Is this what you're talking about (forgive me for screenshotting the Google AI)

[somber sequoia]

that seems to be from the docs for Lyuma's emulator. I just read that an hour ago 🙂

[foggy tiger]

At least Google AI is swiping legit sources then or smthn

But do I gotta adjust the animations?

[balmy barn]

vrchat default locomotion push feets down and sideway

ever noticed this

to avoid you need to be floating, fbt user dont really care much we can just shift up

gogo ect might have tweaked them

[charred storm]

I would like to upload my VRM model to vr chat . I would like to make sure it is compatible for both PC and VR I will be checking back here and a few minutes because I'm going on a date but I need somebody to take the time to call me and have a step-by-step tutorial on how to do this I finally got to the point where I'm able to upload an avatar where I've been on VR for more than the extent amount of hours where I'm allowed to upload I just need somebody to literally sit down with me and help my dumb butt step by step I had to upload the stuff I already got unity stuff fixed and the VR creator stuff there I just need the part where starting the project and that's that's where I need to have is starting the project and how to make it PC and VR related thank you I will check back and see who is was able to help

[wooden dew]

Hi, Im quite new to vr chat can anyone help me with my avatar I've been trying to make a toggle menu FOR A MONTH and still not working i made Fx, expression menu and parameter and did the animation etc, and link it all to the avatar descriptor and still not shown in game but it shown in gesture management idk how

Could anybody help me?

• any one have the fly menu like how white tiger avatars have?

[somber sequoia]

I'd guess the flying menu is GogoLoco.

[foggy tiger]

How do I fix it doing the down part of that?

I get it's default but it's causing problems so it's gotta be changed

[lilac musk]

I'd suggest watching videos and using Google as much as you can at first. Then if you have a problem on a specific thing, come back here and explain it as best you can for people here to help. Here's a good video to start with. https://youtu.be/ukyjRAsMJJM?si=Wks8HqVDoMPTb9Lo

[foggy tiger]

Also I think it's something other than just the default locomotion as well

[quartz bone]

Is it possible to have particles collide with other players?

[foggy tiger]

Because when I have the model in its default position (below the floor) and I enter play mode it does the default locomotion and moves it down slightly. But when I had the model raised as well as the armature raised in blender it also just went back to the same position in play mode (the same as with my avatar in its default position in play mode that is)

[arctic ginkgo]

i think you can on their end? but I don't think remote users will be able to see it

if you're looking for like something to stick to another player, there are shaders that do it

[quartz bone]

I want to throw snowballs at people basically

[arctic ginkgo]

hmm

[somber sequoia]

excellent use case

[quartz bone]

I've got it all set up already, a particle system with subemitters so that it explodes on collision

inherits hand velocity

[arctic ginkgo]

i feel like there could be a way to do it with contacts but i'm not entirely sure

idk you can't make a contact follow particles

[somber sequoia]

I really wish you could

[arctic ginkgo]

off the top of my head the only solution coming to mind is like super convoluted

which would be using a contact tracker setup to move a collider to remote players which the snowball could collide with

[somber sequoia]

oh ick

[arctic ginkgo]

but then there's a limit for how many people can be tracked and from how far away and it's just overall not a very elegant solution

maybe you could make some sort of prediction system that tries to guess which nearby player will get hit?

the vague idea i have of how that would work is an object that freezes to world space when you throw, oriented the same direction as your throw, and then moves contacts in that direction to search for a player, and then moves the contact tracker to that position

this seems like a lot of work for just throwing snowballs though 😅

the other option i guess would be to not use particles for this

you could do the freeze position and rotation thing and "throw" the snowball with an animation

then you can use a contact on it to detect player collision and a particle system to detect world collision

oh also using a "follower constraint" setup if you adjust it to be frame-independent with proximity contacts can give you velocity so you can adjust the animation accordingly

[quartz bone]

Do particles collide with the player on a local scale?

As in

I throw a snowball, it passes through them on my end, but hits them on their end

[arctic ginkgo]

i think you can set them up to do that depending on what layers it colliders with

[junior void]

The objects always move back to 0 0 of its origins. Meaning if you used unity or blender edit mode to raise the model, it'll 'emulate play at objects 0 0', thus jumping back down. What you can try is move the armature up in blender (mesh will follow) and then apply transforms on both armature and mesh(es) to set the new absolute 0. Did you try that yet?

[quartz bone]

Right now they're set to collide with everything

[arctic ginkgo]

the reason for this btw is because remote players actually don't have movement colliders, only the local player does

[quartz bone]

That's fair

[arctic ginkgo]

which is kind of necessary for some things to work in worlds because it means player position is calculated locally and then synced

[quartz bone]

As long as the other person knows I got them I'm happy

[arctic ginkgo]

I'm not 100% sure if it works bc sometimes VRChat restricts how you can use collision layers especially on avatars

but i'm pretty sure you can have particles collider with the local player

[foggy tiger]

I moved the mesh up initially without the armature and the avatar was above the ground but all the bones were messed up because I didn't move the armature. When I moved the armature up this morning it was as if I changed nothing because I just clipped through the floor the same amount as not moving the armature. I did that with apply all transforms both off and on in the export settings.

[junior void]

Not in the export settings

Iirc under the tab 'object' and 'apply all transforms'. I'm not sure if the shortcut is shift + a or alt + a anymore

It's Ctrl +a

Thanks google

[foggy tiger]

Well the mesh and armature right now are back to where they originally were and the origin is moved down instead. Could I still do the ctrl + a with that?

And expect the same result I mean

[junior void]

Would be helpful if you posted an image of the avatar in blender so we can see how far out the origin really is