avatar-help

[rigid jetty]

that IS in mobile

[somber sequoia]

oh, that should work then, huh.

[clear tapir]

Nope

[somber sequoia]

this is a world shader, it makes no sense to use on an avatar.

[rigid jetty]

regardless it's still under mobile

[somber sequoia]

yep, it is, the error is a bit misleading.

[balmy barn]

time i used unity i just grab android/ios from this or use the one in unity to get the installer , never used unity hub to add android module https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.22f1#installers

ect

[somber sequoia]

oh I know why I had to go through Unity Hub - the links on that page for Linux versions of those components are actually mac packages.

funny they haven't fixed it in 3 years

[loud vortex]

Does anyone know why my entire character wiggles like this?
In Blender only the arms are animated, the Shoulder bones spins around.
Or do I need to keyframe every single bone? I would like to be able to have this animation play as a toggle so arms can sping around while walking and such

Here is the animation in Blender

[nimble zenith]

is that the latest version from git ?

[spark walrus]

looks fine to me..

[balmy barn]

those legs vrchat wont like and tries to straighten them

[spark walrus]

ah-

[balmy barn]

use some fake ones and constraints , havnt done it ever

[balmy barn]

id do the animation in unity not from blender, you can always try to extract the animation from fbx to unity , might be the 'center from mass' , thats not a setting i use on any of the animations ive imported

[nimble zenith]

I think you would map the lower bone instead of that horizontal one, which may work. If not you could probably change the rig to have that bone removed cause its kinda non-humanoid rig so it may be a little tricky to get it to work. You could also try final ik with that one but I couldn't assist you on setting that up right.

[loud vortex]

For simple animations like this I see no problem in making them in Unity, but I'd still like to figure this out so I can export more advanced animations on the future.
Guess I'll try to read up on all the anim settings there

[uneven bough]

any help?

[rare jacinth]

Does anyone have a tutorial on how to make paw pads in blender for the hands and feet of a avi? Trying to do it for the hyena avatar I have but I havent found any useful tutorials on YouTube yet. Any advice is appreciated 🙏

[nimble zenith]

Remove pumkin from the project & reinstall it.

[uneven bough]

how do i do that again?

[glass condor]

Can anyone help me with this problem? My character's head bobbles an extreme amount when moving, and I think it has to do with the neck bone being too small. I increased the size in Blender, but nothing changed. Any ideas?

[nimble zenith]

On ALCOM Or VRChat Creator Companion remove it as a package depending on which you use.

[nimble zenith]

Aint no physbone at all ?

[glass condor]

nope

[nimble zenith]

It doesnt look like weight paint pulling does it ?

[glass condor]

it's like this weird, inconsistent jerking/wobble that randomly happens when I move backwards

[glass condor]

Doubt it, I attached the head mesh to the head bone with Bone parenting, not with weightpainting

it's basically a character with a mesh that came in pieces that I attached to bones directly. tbf, the neck bone has no mesh of its own.

[nimble zenith]

Well I can see that causing problems tbh

Do you have a clip of it ?

[glass condor]

I can get one rq

[uneven bough]

still won't compile

[nimble zenith]

Yeah something is wrong with the scripts however that script shouldn't exist either if the package was fully deleted.

[nimble zenith]

Can you manually delete that folder in unity ? /Assets/Inari/PumkinAvatarTools/

[glass condor]

sorry to interrupt, do you want me to dm you the clip or drop it here?

[nimble zenith]

Whatever you're comfortable with

[glass condor]

sent!

[slender loom]

I do apologize for this question as i hope im not annoying people but when i import my character into unity it seems his feet are slightly twisted and clipping through the floor when ingame and in play mode. But for the normal view or went not in play mode it's normal? Is there something im missing or need to fix as i tried moving the bones and thought that would fix it but no. Sorry I hope i'm not bothering folks with what is probably a basic question lol. But thank you for taking the time to read this. :]

[devout rampart]

how do i hide the camera on the bottem left

its getting annyoing

[ancient adder]

radial menu > tools > face mirror

[somber sequoia]

yeah looks like you have an extra version of this tool in your Assets folder - delete that.

[uneven bough]

that worked, thanks!

[devout rampart]

thank you

[glass condor]

Alright, anyone know what the problem with the head here is?

I'm begging for help to stop this weird head wobble/head flick, it's been the bane of my existence for the past 5 hours 😭

[crude pumice]

Hmmm did you configure the armature?

[lilac dragon]

ye

boutta say

bones?

[glass condor]

sure did!

[crude pumice]

View point ball?

[glass condor]

right in the head at its expected spot!

[lilac dragon]

advertise it as an intended feature

frfr

[glass condor]

stoooooop 😭

[crude pumice]

Never had this issue before cant help

[nimble zenith]

np

[jagged vessel]

this happens when I export from blender, i just added hair and merged the models into one, and made a shapekey that hid the hair. what do I do?

i applied all transforms before i exported, got rid of leaf bones, made the scale to fbx all, not sure what could be wrong with the export settings

[rapid wharf]

I'm trying to add sync dances 4.5.1 to both my pc and quest version of a model and they are not syncing pc works fine but when quest emotes the fingers move and thats it.

[molten inlet]

what?

it has a thumbnail????

[proven quail]

Quest version has all the dances removed, you have to manual quest convert sync dances and remove the ones you don't like as much because all the animations usually don't fit for quest.

[left gull]

if you're using the most recent SDK try going back a version and re-uploading

[molten inlet]

okay

What the fuck that worked?

whats wrong with the latest SDK?

[left gull]

not sure but a few have had that issue too so kinda new the fix off the top of my head :P

hoping they drop a fix for it soon though

[dark jay]

is it possible to add a animation to a model and have it not be a toggle but a default animation plays when turning into avi but still humanoid

[dark jay]

lmk

[ornate stump]

Your question is confusing. Try to rephrase it or give some example.

[dark jay]

Is it possible to have a animation be active by default without a toggle and still have a model be humanoid

[dark jay]

Think of the generic pokemon avatars with animation toggles but instead i want one animation only and i dont want it as a toggle i want it as a default state and the avi to be humanoid

[ornate stump]

So like putting a generic model inside of a humanoid rig? Yes.

[dark jay]

No just the animation lets say i have animation from a pokemon game that i want to put on a model

But i dont want it to be a toggle i want it to be default on

[ornate stump]

Whatever animation you put on a animator layer as a single state will play that state by default.

[dark jay]

So if i do it and loop it without a toggle it will constantly play even if i move?

On a humanoid model

So does it still allow me to move my arms and legs?

[ornate stump]

Do you rather say playing pokemon animation on humanoid rig?

And actually has nothing to do with toggle.

It more sounds like animation compatibility and not even relate to a toggle.

[dark jay]

Nvm i dont know how to make u understand it

[ornate stump]

No one else would understand it either.

[arctic ginkgo]

like the walking animtion?

[dark jay]

I decided to ask in another server after u didnt understand it and confused me with animation compatibility and they seemed to know what i meant

[dark jay]

Idle

[arctic ginkgo]

if you want it to take over your body you can use tracking control to disable tracking from different body parts

[arctic ginkgo]

yes, idle is part of the walking/locomotion animations

it's the walking animation of "not walking" lol

[dark jay]

As its a mega pokemon and im having trouble posing it like in game so i wanted to use a animation instead of having to pose it

Or pose parts

[arctic ginkgo]

you need a custom base controller

if you literally only want it to have that idle animation, just put the animation in a controller and put that in the base layer

to make sure your tracking doesn't kick in, disable tracking for everything with the tracking control behavior

[dark jay]

Like custom fx or one of the other layers

[dark jay]

But what if i wanna move my hand or legs

[arctic ginkgo]

then you don't disable it with tracking control :)

alternatively, add a toggle that switches between having it on and off

[arctic ginkgo]

base, like i said

base is the name of the layer

[ornate stump]

If your animation is controlling generic rig but your model is humanoid rig then it isn't going to work on your model.

[arctic ginkgo]

if you have the animation on a model you can import into blender though, you can convert it to humanoid

[ornate stump]

That's what I meant by animation compatibility.

[arctic ginkgo]

the rig needs to be humanoid compatible, or you need to make it so, then export the model, import to unity, and set it up as humanoid

[dark jay]

Ah, thank you I wanted it humanoid but i didnt wanna fiddle and pose parts of the model to be like in game and instead use the animations that came in game

[spark walrus]

does anyone know why the model always has a slant and then has weird leg placements

[dark jay]

Check ur bones in blender, check the rolls set it to 0

U can also try reseting in unity then reinforce tpose to see if it fixes it

[spark walrus]

Where do I see the Bone rolls?

@dark jay

[ornate stump]

Actually the avatar tries to align toe bones forward to view position. This means it's either your view position is set too deep into the head, or toe bones start too late in the feet.

[spark walrus]

Okay thank you both I’ll try those

[grave ruin]

So i've been trying to edit a skin texture for a booth avatar i bought. What i decided to work with is Blender since it offers enough to work on the textures and i find it quite easy to show the texture mapping and the 3d model at once side by side. However my biggest issue right now is while i can edit the texture i cannot see the 3d model using the same shader as i would see ingame. The model looks completely washed out and playing with the world settings only gets me to either darker or brighter colors with always low contrast.

The model used is using liltoon shaders in vrchat and they pretty much pop the texture out just the way you see them in the 2d texture image with strong colors. How do i get the same effect in Blender to work on the texture as its supposed to look?

[ocean berry]

Michele Jackson!

[ocean berry]

looks liek a uv problem

[jagged vessel]

..my entire model is disproportionate

its like huge

[ocean berry]

you may need to scale it to be smaller inside of blender

[jagged vessel]

?

[ocean berry]

make it smaller using blender

[jagged vessel]

idk if thats how it works

i dont have to use blender

i applied transforms too, it shouldnt be

[ocean berry]

could be cuz of the rig

[jagged vessel]

i checked it all

[ocean berry]

did you applied transforms to the rig?

[jagged vessel]

^

[ocean berry]

okay

okay can you give a bit more context, is the model the whole too big or is it with just with the shape key?

[jagged vessel]

its huge, disproportionate, seems like none of the bones wanna move or animate, seems like all the materials are messed up

im not at my pc atm

[ocean berry]

idk how to fix these inside of unity, but I do recommend getting blender and take a look at it in there (I recommend downloading it from steam)

[jagged vessel]

are we deadass

i feel like its obvious i used blender

[ocean berry]

oh thought you said you didn't

I missread

sorry my bad

[grave ruin]

the export function of blender to fbx has different kinds of scalings maybe thats the issue (though i started using blender at all like 3 days ago so dont take my word on it). I usually use FBX All as the scaling option when editing my booth avatars. maybe thats the issue but idk.

[ocean berry]

when I export a .blend file to a .FBX the scales usually(all) stay the same

btw I reccomend talking to people in the blender discord since I think this is a export issue right? it will be much more helpfull then any of us

(vrchat is mostly made of hobbiest thats why)

[grave ruin]

can they also help me with my texture editing question? i think thats pretty much a vrchat exclusive thing wanting to use the liltoon shader on the preview.

[ocean berry]

maybe, it's for a shader so maybe ask how to export a shader into blender

[fallen sparrow]

Hi! Me and my friend have been trying to upload a avatar for hours now because of this problem

If you can help that would be appriciated

[ocean berry]

import*

[grave ruin]

is there anything that might prevent the upload listed in the sdk's builder section

[grave ruin]

^

[fallen sparrow]

What do you mean by that?

Im a new uploader so, im like a noob lmao

[grave ruin]

when opening the vrchat sdk where you login to upload your avatar theres a list of restrictions that are checked in real time in the upload window

[fallen sparrow]

these?

[grave ruin]

yes. though that looks pretty good

[fallen sparrow]

Ive done the blueprint thing before you ask

Even though it isnt there

[junior void]

Isn't the fallback msg old?

Fallbacks ain't a thing anymore

[grave ruin]

blueprint ID can prevent upload if the ID is already in use by someone else, other than that it shouldnt matter

[junior void]

What's your unity ver

[fallen sparrow]

2022.3.22f1

[grave ruin]

which version of SDK are you using

not unity version

the SDK version

[junior void]

Figured I'd ask both

[fallen sparrow]

I used both 3.9.0 and 3.7.6 same problem for all

[junior void]

But ty for plowing over me

[grave ruin]

i didnt mean to plow i just noticed the number being a unity number and didnt even read your question above yet

sorry xD

[fallen sparrow]

Do I switch back to 3.9.0??

[grave ruin]

the error message really doesnt tell us much about whats wrong

you can actually use both

[fallen sparrow]

Do you need me to expand it?

[junior void]

It could also be something in fbx import

[fallen sparrow]

its a blend file

[junior void]

I had stuff there not throw a useful error in console

[grave ruin]

the newer version just tells you the most uptodate restrictions and makes spotting issues easier also preventing the avatar from getting flagged by a serverscan later

[junior void]

Well...

[grave ruin]

for things like texture memory too big

[grave ruin]

if theres more information in it sure

[fallen sparrow]

First one is: Avatar validation failed
UnityEngine.Logger:Log (UnityEngine.LogType,object,UnityEngine.Object)
(wrapper dynamic-method) UnityEngine.Debug:UnityEngine.Debug.LogError_Patch1 (object,UnityEngine.Object)
VRC.Core.Logger:LogError (string,string,UnityEngine.Object)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<BuildError>d__137:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2786)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncVoidMethodBuilder:Start<VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<BuildError>d__137> (VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<BuildError>d__137&)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder:BuildError (object,string)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<HandleBuildError>d__130:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2578)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder`1<System.Exception>:Start<VRC.SD

second is: BuilderException: Avatar validation failed
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.Build (UnityEngine.GameObject target, System.Boolean testAvatar) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2553)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.Build (UnityEngine.GameObject target) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2979)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.BuildAndUpload (UnityEngine.GameObject target, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar avatar, System.String thumbnailPath, System.Threading.CancellationToken cancellationToken) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2998)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.OnBuildAndPublishAction () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2021)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncMethodBuilderCore+<>c.<ThrowAsync>b__7_0 (System.Object state) (at <27124aa0e30a41659b903b822b959bc7>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext+WorkRequest.Invoke () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.Exec () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext.ExecuteTasks () (at <cb81df0c49c643b1a04d9fc6ccca2433>:0)

[junior void]

How would you even set an avatar humanoid if you use a blend file

I bet stuff would pop up if you used fbx

[fallen sparrow]

Vrchat does like this weird thing where it imports it into a fbx in unity

Pretty cool

But it shouldnt be a problem

I used blend files before

[grave ruin]

even if it would upload as generic rig it would still upload. not being humanoid doesnt prevent the upload except you have a humanoid descriptor but missing hip bones and such

[junior void]

The error we have is super generic

It could be anything

[grave ruin]

can you share the avatar descriptor in unity?

[fallen sparrow]

K

[grave ruin]

are you using Creator Companion btw?

[fallen sparrow]

Yeah

[grave ruin]

out of ideas for the moment the error doesnt really give away much except the sdk found an issue which is not listed by the sdk on building

weird

it might be a very minor thing something you didnt do like last time it worked

[fallen sparrow]

Could it be something with gogoloco?

Vrcfury?

[grave ruin]

i havent used that yet. i do know that exporting and reimporting and copying descriptors and stuff can cuz some issues but they are usually cought by the sdk so you should see them

[fallen sparrow]

oh wait forgot this error the blueprint one

Blueprint: Attempted to load the data for an avatar we do not own, clearing blueprint ID
UnityEngine.Debug:Log (object,UnityEngine.Object)
VF.Hooks.VrcsdkFixes.SuppressBlueprintWarningHook:Prefix (object,UnityEngine.Object) (at ./Packages/com.vrcfury.vrcfury/Editor/VF/Hooks/VrcsdkFixes/SuppressBlueprintWarningHook.cs:27)
(wrapper dynamic-method) UnityEngine.Debug:UnityEngine.Debug.LogError_Patch1 (object,UnityEngine.Object)
VRC.Core.Logger:LogError (string,string,UnityEngine.Object)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<HandleAvatarSwitch>d__93:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:1561)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:SetException (System.Exception) VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<GetAvatar>d__31:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:575) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:SetException (System.Exception)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<Get>d__171<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:378) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:SetException (System.Exception)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<MakeRequest>d__162<object, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:341) System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder1<System.ValueTuple2<VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar, System.Net.Http.HttpResponseMessage>>:SetException (System.Exception) VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<MakeRequestWithResponse>d__152<object, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCAvatar>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:332)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext:ExecuteTasks ()

[grave ruin]

now thats different

i guess you already tried clearing the blueprint id an reupload fresh

[fallen sparrow]

Reupload fresh?

Do you mind explaining that?

[grave ruin]

is there anything part of another avatar attached to the current avatar?

[grave ruin]

you can clear the blueprint id in the avatar descriptor so it uploads with a random id instead not overwriting whatever the id was attached to before

[fallen sparrow]

Yeah its just like not there at all

[fallen sparrow]

Not that I know of

It might be a shared asset my model creator got from a friend of theirs

[grave ruin]

i had an issue 2 days ago where i combined the hair of another avatar with my avatar and it didnt wanna upload because of some issues after using pumkin tools to copy outfits and stuff to the new fbx i used.
I had to delete the hair and then readd them manually for it to work.

However it did throw an error in the 3.9.0 SDK saying that something is not the children of the avatar and stuff

It also gave me the blueprint error though so it might be connected in some way

[fallen sparrow]

thing is, it was given in a fbx and put on the avatar on blender with new textures and all

[grave ruin]

try to delete the fbx temporarily and upload see if it works

then we would at least know the culprit if it works

not delete the fbx of course

[fallen sparrow]

What if it was binded to the model..

[grave ruin]

but the object on your avatar

[fallen sparrow]

🥺

[grave ruin]

if you melded it into one file it shouldnt be an issue

[fallen sparrow]

what the freak

[grave ruin]

but thats frankenstein stuff i have no experience with

you mean you used another avatars fbx adding it to your blend file then add it to unity to upload right

i have no experience with that sadly there might be some issue there that i dont know yet

[fallen sparrow]

this friggin sucks, thanks for helping though

[grave ruin]

What exactly is it you wanted to add maybe you can combine it inside unity instead and just edit the fbx itself to match your avatar

However that might break your good evaluation in sdk if you use multiple objects

(my avatars are usually all poor or very poor )

[fallen sparrow]

I tried turning the model to a fbx itself

didnt work

[grave ruin]

nothing more really i can suggest. i would attempts to edit the fbx to match the avatar and then use both the fbx and the avatars blend file in unity setting up the part you want on your avatar using modular avatar.
But do know when i end up having to troubleshoot in avatar creation i mostly spend 8+ hours until i figure it out so ye.

there is probably a way to work the issue out in blender itself that i dont know about

[fallen sparrow]

removing the gun entirely didnt work

im mad

[proven quail]

I'm pretty sure liltoon is unity only. Blender has different shaders and different settings and usually never looks the same.

[grave ruin]

Bummer. I guess there's no way to edit textures in 3d with the same visuals as in-game then

[ocean berry]

why, I have the shape keys needed and yet nothing

as you can see I have them

[ornate stump]

If you had unapplied modifiers in object in blender, the blendshapes will not get exported.

[ocean berry]

last time I checked it was only the armature, but let me see

yeah smooth by angle

[ornate stump]

Try remove that and export again.

[ocean berry]

applying it would be better which I did

it works

thanks

I only have 6 why does it say I have 27?

[ornate stump]

Did you count by mesh? Each mesh can have multiple material slot.

[ocean berry]

new problem: when I try to find my assetusing the VRCFury Toggle Component, it only show the bones

nvm it shows the assets but also the bones

but it's hard to find the assets

[grave ruin]

so what is vrcfury does it make things easier? i never had to use it yet

can i create a toggle that lifts my avatar up? for things like heels. want to be able to take off the heels without floating and vice versa

i do know transformation isnt possible thats why im asking

[balmy barn]

'yes' but your viewpoint wont change

[torn crypt]

Vrcfury makes is so much easier to make toggles

[grave ruin]

thats fine by me really so how can you do it

[balmy barn]

toggles is the simplest thing to learn a blendtree give you alot more options if you need more then one parameter

im way too used to placespace to think of a way to animate up/down , it will need tracking control

animate hip up/down

[grave ruin]

so i should probably just keep using my spacedrag for it

just upsetting that in desktop mode my shoes will be below ground

idk how to lift myself in desktop mode

[grave ruin]

im not so worried about the toggles themselves. what i do wish would be easier is making animations, having to use the menu to select stuff and not being able to see the changes is so obnoxious and then when you use the record variant and you select a different prefab editing gets interrupted and you have to start over. its just dumb.

i do a ton of outfit toggles that require animations to work doing each one its annoying

[torn crypt]

Vrcfury also automates a lot of that setup, so you don’t have to manually make every animation or menu toggle yourself. It can auto-generate the animations and parameters for outfit swaps, saving a ton of time.

[torn crypt]

.

[grave ruin]

i guess ill check it out

do i add that via vcc or just import in unity

and should i backup

[royal bloom]

i'm trying to port this fella to vrchat, i already exported as a fbx, but for some reason when i put him on unity, he doesn't appear.

i don't know if i'm doing something wrong, so i wanted to ask for some help.

[royal bloom]

this is when i try to put him on unity.

[spark zealot]

Guys! Please help me! My Avatar eyes looks like being fixed at one point when I move my camera arounds. Anyone know how to fix this?

[torn crypt]

Maybe the Eye look setup might be wrong

[spark zealot]

This one?

When I preview, all 4 directions works correctly tho

[balmy barn]

your eyebones need to be fixed in blender, looking straight should need no value

they likely point towards eyes , not up wich vrchat prefer

[spark zealot]

This is my looking straight

[balmy barn]

you have values there, none should be needed

0.0.0 is eyebones straight up

[spark zealot]

And the eye bone come with this value already, I don't know how to fix it in blender

All 4 eye bones in blender have 0 roll

[balmy barn]

cats or just do it manually, shift them from toward eyes to up

[spark zealot]

I did it already

with CATS, and 0 roll

[balmy barn]

typical rotation states, no idea how yours so all over

[spark zealot]

Me too. I have no idea. This is the eye's transform in default state

I took sometime, trying to fix it, then someone here say it doesn't matter, just move the eyes in accordance to it then it's all good

[frigid glade]

It depends on what bones you use for the set up. I had that problem when I used the Eye_R bone instead of using the Right_Eye bone. The eye_R requires you to adjust it but the other one doesn’t

[spark zealot]

I name them LeftEye and RightEye

I even tried to use that LeftEye and RightEye here, still no result

[icy galleon]

is there a way to toggle something on someone elses avatar?

[ornate stump]

You can interact with other avatars via contacts or physbones.

[icy galleon]

oh thanks ill check it out

[loud vortex]

Think that is the least of your problems. That thing has 537 objects and 485 000 vertices. There is no way that is gonna run nicely.

[somber sequoia]

yow

Also you should move the avatar to 0,0,0, that's probably your issue.

[loud vortex]

@royal bloom Kazin is refering to this part in upper right corner of you window

[royal bloom]

oh thx

i'll see if that resolves

[nimble zenith]

Avatars don't need to be zeroed to work, I used to upload a bunch of avis in the same scene and would move them over by a unit so they were not inside each other (atleast Z axis). But Y being at 24K+ is kinda crazy thats like way up in the air

[royal bloom]

i'm kinda new to all of this so

[somber sequoia]

I'm sure it was just a mistake

[trim edge]

Hi there, been while. So im trying to connect a head fbx to a body's fbx. when i go and add vrc avatar descriptor and try to do the eye positions, it either moves the entire body or the entire head. Any suggestions?? (Its been months since ive worked on avatars, i used to be able to do this, i swear)

[somber sequoia]

doing the eye positions moves the whole mesh?

[trim edge]

yeah, and it wont show me where the view position is. im very confused on what im doing wrong here

[somber sequoia]

if it won't show you, make sure gizmos are on - little globe icon at the upper right of the Scene view

[trim edge]

i should have mentioned im doing this entirely in unity 😅

[somber sequoia]

I'd do a head+body join in Blender.

[trim edge]

i know nothing about blender but ill download it and try to figure it out 🙂 ty!

[somber sequoia]

other people have done it in Unity though, just saying I wouldn't

[trim edge]

oh, well ill try to figure it out in blender haha. gonna have to learn how to navigate blender eventually anyways

[somber sequoia]

it's really useful if you're going to do real avatar work

[spark zealot]

Someone please teach me how to export my model

I right click on the model folder - export package

But, the PhysBone component is gone

[somber sequoia]

from what, Unity? Ideally don't do that, just grab the .fbx file itself and put it into whatever.

[spark zealot]

Yeah, I want to send my model to my friend

[somber sequoia]

Oh you want to make a whole package

Yeah that's pretty much how you do it.

[spark zealot]

Yes, the whole package so that she can upload to her avatar

But when I try reimporting, the PhysBone Components are all gone

[balmy barn]

if you use vcc just use the backup option , send that file , they unpack it and open in with vcc/unity its all setup for you

[spark zealot]

Brilliant! Thanks so much!!!

[balmy barn]

it wil be much larger then if you use unity export option but that can leave a mess and they need to get x y z packages

[spark zealot]

Yeah, that's true

But what about model on Booth? People also share Unity Package there

How did they do it?

[half siren]

if you're willing to shell out a few dollars, chimera maker on booth is definitely worth it and makes this process a LOT easier

[grave ruin]

Does vrcfury use write defaults or not setting up the toggles? My projects all have write defaults enabled so I'm worried if I add it that I have to change everything

[somber sequoia]

much like you're doing, but it's not clear why the physbones aren't present. Does your friend have the VRC SDK installed?

[spark zealot]

Yes. and we have the same Unity

But yeah, it's my fault

I make another project, re-import, and the PhysBone is gone

Dunno why tho

[somber sequoia]

huh

[spark zealot]

Is this the right way to export the whole model?

[somber sequoia]

what object have you clicked on?

[spark zealot]

I have to click on object?

In Hierchy?

Not just the folder?

[somber sequoia]

ohhh

Yes - the folder in your project is not your scene, you want to export the scene

you can just like, copy that folder outside of Unity as you would copy any other file. or zip it, etc.

So right click on the avatar object in the scene, then export that.

[spark zealot]

This one? I don't see the export button tho?

Sorry, I'm new to Unity

[somber sequoia]

oh I think it's Assets -> Export Package

[spark zealot]

Oh? This one? After I click on my model in the hierachy?

[ornate stump]

You actually have to export the scene file where your avatar is saved in.

[somber sequoia]

I really haven't done this much, I make my packages via script and such, but I thought that's how that worked, yes

[somber sequoia]

ah yeah if you want the entire scene rather than an avatar prefab, that's the best bet

[spark zealot]

Uh.. can you say more about it? I don't really know where my scene file is stored

[somber sequoia]

I was thinking about exporting items and props, that's the only way I've used this before.

the scene is the top object in the hierarchy

[ornate stump]

It's saved your own project. You could also search your scene name from project panel.

[spark zealot]

Sorry for my skill issue, but one more thing I want to ask

I set the model to be able to interact by other people

[nimble zenith]

make sure no other bones are parented to the eye bones by mistake and make sure nothing else is weight painted to the eye bones.

[spark zealot]

But I can't interact with my friend model

[nimble zenith]

The best way is to create a prefab of the avatar by dragging it from heirarchy then to the folder then right clicking that and hitting export package. Cause anything associated with the prefab will be included in the package.

Can also do the same with the unity scene

[ornate stump]

Are the physbones working at all?

[spark zealot]

Yes, all work now, thanks

[spark zealot]

Thanks, lemme try it out

[ornate stump]

If you already exported the scene you don't have to save prefab.

[nimble zenith]

Yes one or the other acheives the same results. You don't need to do both as Renfrew said.

[spark zealot]

I sent the backup to my friend, and the model work now

Now I'm testing it, and I can't seem to interact with the model

This is the setting

[ornate stump]

Back to the previous question: Are the physbones working at all?

[nimble zenith]

You made sure interactions were on within the game right ?

[spark zealot]

Yes, the PhysBone work now, hair and skirt do fly and jiggle

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot physbones in unity scene?

[spark zealot]

It's a mess, but here. I checked in Gesture Manager with mouse and it works there

[nimble zenith]

Did u test a physbone collider in unity in playmode ?

[spark zealot]

Yes, collision works just fine

[ornate stump]

What is interaction you expected for example?

[nimble zenith]

Hm I think i had this problem before. I think pasting from another script worked for me or like starting over did. Sometimes I feel like changes don't translate to vrchat.

[spark zealot]

I did this in Playmode

So I hope to be able to do the same in VR Chat

[nimble zenith]

I think the grab mechanic in the game window indeed tests grab but not collision. I have had problems where my hand would phase in but not interact with the bone at all.

[spark zealot]

I'm using PC, so I also want to test grab too

But I can't grab in VRC PC

[ornate stump]

So you can't grab physbone of another person avatar? Double check if you can interact with other person grab the other person while using another avatar.

[spark zealot]

Can you recommend a free one with grabable bone to check

Sorry, I'm new to this

[somber sequoia]

those are local colliders. The only other-user colliders physbones react to are hands

[spark walrus]

I'm making an avi in Blender based of a character off the British TV children show 'Mister Maker' - the Square to be exact.

I had problems when I made the avi out of one model, so, I'm making the legs separate from the body. [this character is armless]

I want there to be fluid motion as if someone was in a mascot costume just like in the original show and their live-show rendition.

Is anyone able to help with that?

[ornate stump]

If they have hair, most of them have grabbable bone.

[somber sequoia]

you'll probably want to join the legs to the body before you export from Blender. Otherwise, just rig it as a humanoid (see #avatar-rigging ) and it should work fine

[nimble zenith]

@spark zealot Testing collision like this act as expected ?

[spark walrus]

I don't need help in just rigging - I want you to imagine this.

You're designing a mascot costume of a big square with legs.

How could you convert that into a model and a rig?

[Yes, it's a tad complicated, but I'm willing to spend days on just one.]

[ornate stump]

Just to be sure again, are you able to touch your friend and bones move? Or it moves but you just couldn't grab bones?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure I understand why the specific shape of the model is relevant to rigging it.

[spark walrus]

I would explain over a VC, but IDK if this server has any.

[somber sequoia]

I don't do that anyway

[spark walrus]

I'll try explain as best as I can, but it;s a bit lengthy.

[somber sequoia]

make model, rig model, import into Unity, setup avatar, upload avatar.
Same process for everything.

[spark zealot]

I think it works

[spark zealot]

I can't interact with the model at all, not grab nor collision

[ornate stump]

Double check if they allowed avatar interaction.

[nimble zenith]

Seems so, very weird you're having an issue.

[ornate stump]

Allowing must be done on both side.

[spark zealot]

This one?

[ornate stump]

That. And make sure your friend is doing the same.

[spark walrus]

This avatar I'm making is based off characters from Mister Maker, an arts and crafts children show from 2007.

This character is not alone - it has three other 'friends'; Circle, Triangle and Rectangle.

The Shapes are mascot like characters with two simple dotted eyes and a wide grin - as if a child drew them.

In 2014, Zodiak Kids helped the Mister Maker team make a live show rendition for British holiday resort 'Butlins'. The Shapes kept their design but instead on normal day laced boots, they went for a more padded semi-sphere look - they got felt-like leggings in their colour [Pink, Yellow, Blue or Red] and they have kept that design since - with a new series of live shows set ready for 2026.

These characters are difficult to convert into 3D softwares like Blender/VRC due to their flexibility and the weird angles they can bend too - which can make it HARDER to make into a riggable character.

[spark zealot]

Yes, both of us set it as Everyone

[ornate stump]

And double check on the nameplate and see if there non-interactable icon shown.

[spark zealot]

She tried a few free model, and I can't interact with any of it

And I use PC, with mouse btw. Can I still grabbing people with mouse?

[nimble zenith]

I am not entirely sure on that, im pretty sure its vr only thing

[ornate stump]

You can't grab bones with mouse.

[spark zealot]

Ah I see

[nimble zenith]

If your friend is in vr they should be able to grab you though

[spark zealot]

So, I can only check in Unity, but not in real use with mouse?

[nimble zenith]

You might be able to do some loops with camera to arm tracking but I never messed with that stuff.

[ornate stump]

You can't grab with PC mouse.

Camera track also can't grab. But the hands should collide with bones.

[spark zealot]

I see

So that's why I can't grab

About the collision, it's kinda hard to do on PC. Maybe I'll ask someone with VR Heatset to do it then

Thanks so much for helping me again guys

And you really did help me alot Irumi. This whole Unity and VRC thing is so confusing forme

[ornate stump]

You will get it eventually.

[bitter ginkgo]

why dose my animation not play even though all the paramiters are met

[ornate stump]

Did you do all the setup correctly?

[bitter ginkgo]

the controller is correct and the animation is correct the contact works so i dont know why

[ornate stump]

Can you show the setup? Answering your question require more information from you.

[bitter ginkgo]

dose this help

i have other avtars with contacts and they work i have tried everything but it dose not wanna work

[ornate stump]

What animation it's controlling?

[spark zealot]

Oh I see! So I supposed to export the prefab from the hierarchy, not the folder itself?

[nimble zenith]

It will only export whats in the folder that way, if you wanna include everything else either export the scene the avatar is in or the prefab of said avatar.

[ornate stump]

You might be saying it wrong. Dragging object into project folder is to make a new prefab, which is a saved of individual object. But saving and exporting the scene is much simpler and less prone to mistake for non-advanced user.

[ornate stump]

Did you put the animator controller into the FX layer?

[trim edge]

So i tried to connect the head to body in blender, got that right, put her into unity to try and do the eye positions and shes still not doing it, it wont show me her eye look and when i try to change eye positions it just moves the whole fbx

[bitter ginkgo]

not the new one i will see if that works it might not tbh

[ornate stump]

The new one?

[bitter ginkgo]

i created a new one to restart

[spark zealot]

Scene, as in, for Nybss picture above, it's the save1 on top of hierarchy right? Do I just drag it from hierarchy down to folder in Object tab, then export Package it?

[ornate stump]

It's better to understand the mistake first before restarting.

Restarting without learning anything is pointless.

[bitter ginkgo]

it was that i will see if i can expand and it still works

[ornate stump]

Come back again when you stuck.

[ornate stump]

A scene already is a file saved in your project and you just have to find that file to export it. Creating a prefab is to drag an object from hierarchy into Asset folder.

[spark zealot]

Can you show picture?

[trim edge]

Im trying to make an avatar after months of not working on any, i import the head and body fbx's. put all the good materials in and whatnot, but when i try to add the avatar descriptor it does not show me the eye look and when i try to rotate eye positions it either moves the entire avatar or just the head

[spark zealot]

I see. I'll look into Unity more then. Seems like I lack some basic knowledge there

[trim edge]

she go wee

[ornate stump]

You did rotating the whole avatar.

[spark zealot]

Based on the gizmo position, I assume you're choosing the avatar, not the eyes

[nimble zenith]

I agree since eye rotations are all 0 0 0

[trim edge]

well i have the transforms on eyes and im just messing with the rotation states

[ornate stump]

The gizmo below belong to the avatar model.

[trim edge]

gizmo?

[spark zealot]

Gizmo is the thing you use to move or rotate object

[ornate stump]

Gizmos are the various tool indicator in unity scene.

[trim edge]

when i click preview on the rotation states nothing pops up near the eyes to change the states of them so thats the only thing i can move

[ornate stump]

Do you have this enabled?

[trim edge]

i dont see that?

[nimble zenith]

top right of 3d view port

[spark zealot]

I see. The Preview button is for you to preview the eye at that position. Can you take screenshots of the eye before and after preview?

[trim edge]

?

[nimble zenith]

do this

[spark zealot]

You're in game mode

[nimble zenith]

And make sure your in scene tab not game tab

[trim edge]

🥹 life saver right here

[trim edge]

this just fixed everything i was having issues with, tysm!

[nimble zenith]

yippie

[inland seal]

I need to put a password on my public avatar that I made for friend, who knows any packages/assets that have a password added

[somber sequoia]

none of those are really worth it - better to just make it not public

[inland seal]

My friend doesnt have a real vrchat account made, Hes using his quest one

[somber sequoia]

why not just make one?

[nimble zenith]

Highly recommend he make one, he can easily merge his quest account with the vrc one and it will transfer rank & friends

[inland seal]

He doesnt know how to, I tried to tell him do that

I'll tell him

[nimble zenith]

He has to login the website, he will see account link on the left.

[nimble zenith]

Once he is on that page, he will need to find account link ingame on the vrchat menu which will provide a link code.

[inland seal]

Alr thx

It's just my work got stolen by another guy on this server

I wouldnt mind since afterall it's public, but He claims that he did the texturing

Wich really made me mad

I dont really want to ping him

unless you guys want to

[hoary rain]

For world creators, if I put all of my objects in my world into an empty game object- does that affect anything I need to be aware of?

[balmy barn]

scaling , 1.1.1 or it get funny

some worlds forget that and when you move it/objects in it scales very wierd

[ashen pelican]

Anyone know why outlines do this or how to fix it? I'd like to have a bold outline for my bee thang

[trim edge]

rendering off?

ahem- hey guys. i need help adding lady jiggles 😅 i add vrc Phys Bones but nothing happens (unity)

[somber sequoia]

provide detail like a screenshot of the physbone component and the scene view with gizmos enabled

[hybrid basin]

I'm wanting to make a headpat contact toggle that cycles through a few short, randomized sound clips every time you touch the avi's head. Is there a way to do this? Preferably with VRCFury? Any tips would be amazing

[somber sequoia]

you probably want to set a collision radius at least.

[balmy barn]

set radius if nothing shows up add endpoint , cant tell if its 1 or more bones

[somber sequoia]

probably set pose to false too, for those specific items.

[trim edge]

ok thanks ill try that stuff

i got them to move but they are sooo messed up haha, thanks for the help, ima take a break till tomorrow 🙂

[grave ruin]

If anyone has the same question:

[polar valve]

hey im having a multitude of issues with an avatar and need a lot of help :(

• legs seem to be disconnected from the torso for some odd reason though it doesnt happen in blender, the weight paints are fine

EXTRA INFORMATION:

• we do not use fbt and its not a height or anything issue
• as you can tell im extremely unexperienced and new to this kind of thing :((
• im also slow and bad with instructions so visuals or simple but detailed explanations help out a lot

PLEASE help if you can, ive been working on these avatars for months

[somber sequoia]

pic1: what is that, a long coat?
pic 2: weight paint issue
pic 3: don't zoom so much, what is this?

[grave ruin]

sorry for the unrelated comment but this really made me think of codebullet

[polar valve]

1 yes a long tailcoat :)
2: screenshots 1 2 and 3, theyre the same weight paint as my other model that doesnt have thise problem

[polar valve]

cool character ^_^ idunno who that is

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure why your other model is relevant here, unless it's literally identical mesh and armature.

[polar valve]

it is

theyre all using the same armature from the first model but the first model (which isnt shown) doesnt have either of these issues

[somber sequoia]

also if you can't get it to clip in blender but it does in unity you're not trying hard enough - this is tricky to do sometimes. Annoying, yep.

[grave ruin]

youtuber who does quirky coding adventures making weird games or having badly coded ai learn classic games and such. its pure comedy i recommend

[polar valve]

i just dont know why the legs wont rotate properly with the rest of the body

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure I know what that means?

[polar valve]

like the legs completely rotate like its not connected to the torso when it should be parented properly

[somber sequoia]

you keep clipping these images really close and they're super low quality so I have no idea what they're indicating.

also you said "parented" - what in this case are you suggesting is parented?

[polar valve]

here let me record a video rq

ugh unitys being slow on me so sorry

[grave ruin]

for things like that i use shareX to make short clips without audio. its easy on resources and doesnt neet top open up obs and set up a scene ect ect

[polar valve]

here

[full dawn]

Is anyone else getting an sdk issue where you cant add an image/upload and it gives a "failed to upload file" with no reasoning behind it? I've tried restarting the project, installing the newest sdk, changing the name and image, and I'm always met with the same issue.

I can build and test, but not upload

[errant coyote]

I can build and uploaded

[full dawn]

Pardon?

[errant coyote]

Yeah

[full dawn]

Yes 👍

[errant coyote]

Ohh I can really help you with that

[full dawn]

What? 😭

[errant coyote]

Is just to build and upload

[indigo compass]

The newest pre-release SDK I think fixed that?
You need to enable seeing pre-releases in VCC's settings.

[full dawn]

Okay, thank you 🙏

[errant coyote]

Have you get that

[crisp briar]

Im having a small issue, whenever I try to upload an avatar without a blueprint ID, the blueprint id suddendly just appears, gives me the classic "Attempted to load the data for an avatar we do not own, clearing blueprint data" and then removed it again

[full dawn]

Install modular avatar, it tends to fix it for me. Another way is to downgrade/upgrade your sdk

[nimble zenith]

brutha talking like a bot

[nimble zenith]

This may also happen as a general error if the avatar photo was rejected

[full dawn]

I fixed my issue, I had to downgrade to upload

I downgraded to 3.7.6

[crisp briar]

Couldn't be. Used the same photo as it got recommended.

But ill try

Okay, now it is spitting out that it needs a blueprint id. God this thing is weird.

[nimble zenith]

Yeah sometimes the serverside bot rejects photos it shouldn't but it should of created one if it was not present

[heady sparrow]

Can someone help me asap if possible ? I'm having an issue from an avatar I made myself and it says this in the logs :

I copy pasted it and sent it to myself cuz it was too long to screenshot everything in unity

I need help asap asap because I won't be able to access the files soon because the computer I'm doing this on is a virtual machine I was paying from and the subscription ended

Please I'm begging, anyone

I literally just finished making everything : materials, physbones, toggles, that's literally all there is on here

I did the usual stuff that I usually do but it didn't work for this model even tho I worked on another model a couple days ago and it worked

I even uploaded an avatar I won a couple hours ago and it worked

I don't understand

[fair hornet]

I know this is not an avatar thing but can someone help me I’m trying to play VR chat on mobile and when I join someone the loading screen keeps on flickering, but I can hear people. Does anyone know anything about this? I have an iPhone 12.

[heady sparrow]

Does your phone meet the requirements for vrchat ?

[nimble zenith]

no

you scammers are too obvious

[serene osprey]

nah, its just micheal

[fair hornet]

I have an iPhone 12

I don’t have iOS 26

Updated

[heady sparrow]

Then there goes your answer most likely

[fair hornet]

Huh

?

[nimble zenith]

not really seeing anything helpful in these errors.

[heady sparrow]

That's literally all it gives me q-q

[serene osprey]

soooo new asset i just bought doesnt want to build for me, any solutions or......?

[heady sparrow]

It just says "Nope, not uploading your avi girlie"

[serene osprey]

those words exactly?

[heady sparrow]

No but honestly comes out as this

[nimble zenith]

Missing script, find it and remove it or remove it with pumkin tools

[heady sparrow]

There's nothing wrong but nothing works

[serene osprey]

(whats a pumkin tool?)

[nimble zenith]

its abnormal to come into a random chat, especially labeled avatar help only to flex ur a pro modeler go to #vrchat-general-1 with that.

[nimble zenith]

https://github.com/rurre/PumkinsAvatarTools?tab=readme-ov-file

[heady sparrow]

Do you maybe have a teeny idea of what I could try to fix it ?

I don't know what to do rn

It works all the way until the last freaking loading thing and just switches to "upload failed"

[worthy ridge]

They scammed one of my friend $400 bucks yesterday 😔

[nimble zenith]

where is the normal unity console errors , seeing it in this format is hard to look at

[worthy ridge]

They collected his money and blocked him without doing the Job

[nimble zenith]

Send proof to mods, so they get removed. Its so obvious but there is so many gullible ppl as well.

In practice, never send money til the job is done.

[heady sparrow]

This is the white thing

And the red thing is the screenshots

Above

[nimble zenith]

Red errors are unhelpful, maybe show me the yellows?

[heady sparrow]

There's no yellow

None

[nimble zenith]

Says theres of them in your picture

[heady sparrow]

I only got red and white

Wait where

Oh

[nimble zenith]

Top right corner, maybe u have them disabled

[heady sparrow]

It's the poiyomi stuff

[worthy ridge]

Alright

Thank you<3

[heady sparrow]

One sec I'll send screenshot

[nimble zenith]

And who are you? You also have a generic profile like micheal

[nimble zenith]

What if you cleared blueprint id ?

[heady sparrow]

Already did that

[nimble zenith]

hmm

[slow smelt]

Hello bot

[worthy ridge]

Bird of the same feathers

[slow smelt]

Scammer then, whatever

[nimble zenith]

They usually arn't bots but uneducated scammers that don't know basic social interactions within vr/3d community that they stick out like a sore thumb.

[heady sparrow]

Says that for all of em with teeny changes for names

[nimble zenith]

Yeah ngl im clueless.

Btw if you don't know you can take screenshots on windows hitting your "Print Screen" (PRTSC) button on keyboard.

[heady sparrow]

I know but it's not my computer, it's a virtual machine, can't screenshot and send on discord cuz ion got discord on it

[nimble zenith]

Gotcha gotcha. I am unsure, it looks like something is causing a fault and build fails. Have you uploaded this avatar before or was previous one a dif project ?

[heady sparrow]

Nope, brand new, just finished the project today right before uploading

Started today, finished today

Brand new

Blender and all

Kit bashed, not from scratch tho

If that can help somehow

[nimble zenith]

Im not leaning towards you much making a error on the model itself but rather its setup in unity

[heady sparrow]

I didn't do anything different from the other model I made a couple days ago tho like

Aside from the materials being setting up different

But it's the same shader

I tried unlocking and locking back the shaders

Nope

Still not working

Atp, idk if it's the mats or something else

Also

It says that

There's a station on the avatar ?

Idk what that is

[round quiver]

when I add a phybone to my avatars hair the hair falls behind the head and doesn't stick to the head does anyone know why this is happing?

[heady sparrow]

I uh

[heady sparrow]

I fixed it

By doing

The same thing

As the avatar I uploaded earlier

Which is

Unpacking the prefab

Drag and drop in asset tab

[nimble zenith]

Weird

[heady sparrow]

Drag and drop in project

[nimble zenith]

Sorry in a arc match so i wasnt responding

[heady sparrow]

And upload the copy

That is so weird

I'll test in on desktop since I'm a questie and I'll convert it

[rocky fractal]

Screenshot it soo people could help to know what you are talking about

[thorn swallow]

I need help with unity

[still shuttle]

Explain in detail exactly what you need help with/ what you're trying to do and anyone here will have an easier time helping you and or explaining things

[tired umbra]

can someone help me with my avatar real quickly, I'm trying to remove a Sub menu but I don't see it anywhere in the Expression menus but its still there when I use Gesture manager.

[somber sequoia]

is it being added by a VRCFury prefab?

[tired umbra]

yeah it is (I think), I tried removing it from there. but when I started up gesture manager it just readded it to the VRCFury prefab

[somber sequoia]

gesture manager wouldn't add things to prefabs

[tired umbra]

I know that 👍 its something to do with me not knowing how to add and remove toggles properly

[somber sequoia]

you'd have to edit the prefab if it has VRCFury menu stuff

[tired umbra]

okay thank you

[ebon dirge]

My avatar keeps defaulting to a blendshape that’s not the basis in unity and I don’t know how to fix it

[nimble zenith]

Are you exporting the fbx with basis selected in blender? Also make sure on the mesh that no blendshapes have any values set on the skinned mesh renderer.

[polar valve]

I still do need help if anyone can :(

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what is going on here, and it's really hard to see how the mesh is moving the way you're showing it.

[odd inlet]

does anyone have an up to date video on how to upload an MMD model to VRChat?

[tidal void]

I added a hat to my avatar but it shows on my first person view. How do I make that object now show for my first person view but show for others normally?

[somber sequoia]

VRC Head Chop

[rugged lagoon]

Hello, I’m struggling to find good hair for my avatar, can someone tell me where to search to find the best (For details : It’s a edit with a Ririka Head and a Lumina Body)

[tidal void]

All I have to do is add the component to said object and that's it?

[somber sequoia]

no, you should read the documentation on the component.

[fathom rover]

Hey, I'm starting on my models eye rotation and am running into an issue.
so my model should be looking straight at 0, 0, 0, right? well when i click preview, the eyes show as them being inside of the head.
Could anyone help? Im going to show the images of my issues here if I can

The first is what happens, the second is where it should be.

[timber wharf]

in blender make sure your eyebones are perfectly vertical

[somber sequoia]

and 0 bone roll

[fathom rover]

so which direction should the axis' face, for example should the z be towards the front of the face or back of head

[somber sequoia]

TheLeastMost just said: perfectly vertical.

put the bone head at the exact center of rotation

[fathom rover]

Yes I understand that, I have the tail and head aligned perfectly vertically, but where the axis' point, does that matter? Like shown in the picture

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea what this is, it's so zoomed

[fathom rover]

Im trying to show the axes, the ZYX. does it matter if the bone is rotated on the z axis?

[somber sequoia]

set bone roll to 0

which I said

[celest lodge]

Hey I have a question in all I've been trying to upload a Avi all day and it's just not letting me I've tried multiple other Avis and it's giving me different errors it's saying it build the avi and it can be uploaded and has nothing to do with the actual avi itself or its like there's just something blocking it.

[ornate stump]

It depends on the error you're seeing. If you want to know the detail then you have to provide the error too.

[bleak vortex]

is the sdk down?

[celest lodge]

Umm in not sure I might have figured it out because it hasn't been even saying the error I may have got it if I haven't I'll send

[ornate stump]

That can't be called "figured out" if it's just a random chance it's failed.

[bleak vortex]

i think the sdk shit the bed

all details are stuck loading

[celest lodge]

It said failed like 50 times I've literally tried it 50 times 😭

[bleak vortex]

ill restart my pc and see if that helps

[celest lodge]

I'ma restart as well and make sure it's all updated it said it was but it I'm not all that sure cuz it tried to say I didn't own the avi when I bought it-

[ornate stump]

Aren't you're going to provide error detail so we know what is actually happening?

[celest lodge]

It was saying this on one

[bleak vortex]

oh ik how to fix that

click on the avi, and look for a button that says detach blueprint id

[celest lodge]

I'm still trying but It had different ones before it just uploaded and uploaded yk

[bleak vortex]

then detach it

[celest lodge]

I did and it still didn't work that's the thing

[ornate stump]

Does it say missing thumbnail image in the sdk panel when it failed?

[celest lodge]

No it didn't

Cuz it doesn't have any missing scrips everything is updated I followed the upload instructions 😮‍💨

[ornate stump]

Upload failed happens when sdk tries to communicate with the server. So you have to enable API logging in the SDK settings and see more detail what's happening.

[celest lodge]

In this?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[bleak vortex]

restarting didnt help, welp rip quest side of avi... for now at least

[celest lodge]

I have no clue what any of that means-

[bleak vortex]

pretty sure you have the same problem me, cant make requests to the api, basically nothing you can do till it gets fixed

i think

[ornate stump]

Obviously you don't. This rather seem to be connection issue between you and the server.

[celest lodge]

I've never had this issue how dose one fix that.?

If it is possible

[celest lodge]

Hm damn that sucks 😮‍💨

[ornate stump]

Try changing your internet, using mobile hotspot for example. Or use proxy like Cloudflare Warp.

[celest lodge]

Ohhh alright thank you! Sorry for the trouble 💗

[past mist]

kindly dm #avatar-help message

[rocky fractal]

You need to downgrade your sdk by 1 using creator companion and if that doesn't work you need to re-work on your avi again but the sdk version needs to be downgrades by 1

[little plume]

unity wont install

[arctic comet]

my avatar on pc is fine, but on quest my toggles are all toggling over and over, and my head is purple
why

[torn crypt]

wrong shaders

[ornate stump]

1. Parameters aren't matching between 2 platform.
2. Invalid shader being used.

[arctic comet]

ok ty

[placid cedar]

I am having an issue with animations. I have one for my headpat and a custom blinking animation. I want to make it so the headpat temporarily turns off the blink when its active then turns in back on when inactive.

[balmy barn]

if its a animation tell it to stop otherwise tracking control https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-tracking-control

my old blink in fx had something like that any vrcemote/other paramters it tells it to stop the blink

if the headpat is lower layer on fx you can just set the blinking to 0 and it will override the ones above it

[placid cedar]

let me try now :)

[ebon dirge]

How do I check the values on the skinned mesh renderer?

[lyric sonnet]

recently bought this and it has a furry side, everytime i try and remove the furry head it removes the human head too

[placid cedar]

if i set blinking to 0 the toggle doesnt work

and the other stuff doesnt work

:(

[plain mural]

How can I make it so that every time the hand touches the head, the animation increases by 10%?
like this

[junior void]

That could be because the face meshes are one object. If that's the case, you'd have to delete it in blender instead.

[heady sparrow]

I'm having an issue and idk why this issue is even here
The avatar eye height it exactly where it should be (between the eyes of the avatar) but it shows up in the chest
I moved the avatar armature up so the feet don't clip into the ground, does that have anything to do with the eye height?

Also, is it possible to prioritize bones on quest? Some physbones I put on quest are getting deleted by vrchat because the avatar has too many bones, is there any way to delete other bones instead?

I might have another issue as well but I think it's linked to the eye height so I'll talk about it when those 2 are fixed if it persists

[somber sequoia]

simply delete physbone components you don't use. Or reduce the number of bones in those chains.

[heady sparrow]

In blender or unity? Cuz most of the bones are bones that are inside the body

So I'm scared it'll f-ck it up

[somber sequoia]

Physbone components are a Unity thing. Reducing bones you do in blender.

[heady sparrow]

Physbones components are already as low as needed tho

And I can't go back in blender

[shut oxide]

im getting these white lines on sum assets im making right where the seems are whys that happening

[somber sequoia]

you can always go back to blender.

[heady sparrow]

Cuz I had to unpack the prefab

[somber sequoia]

oh

[heady sparrow]

I can't

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's a bad idea, don't do that.

(you still can, it's just a bit of work now)

[heady sparrow]

I had to because it was the only thing that worked to upload the avatar

[heady sparrow]

Really???

How??

[somber sequoia]

You drag a new copy of the avatar into the scene and copy everything over to it.

then you don't unpack it.

[heady sparrow]

Oh

Right

I'm stupid

Imma eat and do that

[somber sequoia]

not stupid, just probably inexperienced.

[heady sparrow]

I just woke up lol

[somber sequoia]

or under-caffinated possibly 🙂

[balmy barn]

your texture 'padding' is too near and get funny lines at distance http://wiki.polycount.com/wiki/Edge_padding

[gaunt sun]

I don't know to much about avis and fixing stuff I tried uploading a quest avi and I'm having this problem... I'm a bit confused

[heady sparrow]

Been doing this for years now so def not lmfao
Experienced avatar creator, I just have 2 braincells fighting for the 3rd place

I forgot this was an option that's all

[somber sequoia]

Look at both of those physbone components, they somehow depend on each other? Or are on the same chain of bones?

[gaunt sun]

ummmm how do I find that....

[somber sequoia]

it tells you which bones they're on in that error message

[gaunt sun]

like this?

all I see is its breast 1 L and 1 R

[somber sequoia]

Yes one of those warnings refers to one of those bones

[gaunt sun]

the error is on 1 L and 1 R

so the breasts all together..? are the problem

[somber sequoia]

Click on the bone, look in the inspector - we can't tell you anything more from here

[gaunt sun]

I really need to learn this stuff idk what Im looking for.

[somber sequoia]

You are looking for a VRC Physbone component.

[gaunt sun]

ok Im prob blind Im not seeing that-

[somber sequoia]

click on the named bone and look in the inspector window

[gaunt sun]

this?

[somber sequoia]

that is a Phsybone component.

[gaunt sun]

oh

uh

I knew that..

mb

idk what any of this means-

[shut oxide]

u are right thx

[gaunt sun]

If I Dont know what Im looking for or something am I just screwed?

[somber sequoia]

based on the error message, I'm guessing you have multiple physbone components affecting those bones. but it's just a guess

[gaunt sun]

how would I check for that?

[somber sequoia]

You find all the physybone components and see what they affect

[gaunt sun]

like from 1 to 6?

[somber sequoia]

Like anywhere on your avatar

[gaunt sun]

they all effect different areas of breast from the chest to the end nothing else

as far as I can see

unity is hard to understand

I really dont want to mess anything up

[nimble zenith]

You click on the body mesh and look over at the inspector, find the "Skinned Mesh Renderer" it will be there

[frail hedge]

why cant i export it to VRM? exporting it to VSF works, but when i load the VSF file into VSeeFace its not working. I have been doing this for like 5hrs 😂 💀.. I have the (.glb) 3D slime object, i just wanted to use it as an avatar where it floats.

[ebon dirge]

OMG tysm! It worked!

[nimble zenith]

np

[rugged lagoon]

Hello, I have a top that's isn't following my b**bs physbones like when i jump my top stay still

[balmy barn]

either of these reasons > no weight painting / not parented bones / not set physbone or endpoint

[rugged lagoon]

Where can i see all that ?

[balmy barn]

easiest way to check physbone set a radius if its visibile , not ? set a endpoint , then play mode and move avatar around to see if they follow , some add outfits in unity and that will have their own bones for the outfit wich need to be set to follow the bones of the actual avatar

in blender you'd just parent that instead and merge if you need less bones ( rarely need more then 2-3 )

[rugged lagoon]

Thx, i'll add that others Tops is working perfectly

just this one has this problem

[plain mural]

Why can't I see individual small meshes when I zoom in on the avatar? I set the camera clipping to 0.1, but the meshes still disappear
The avatar is the same size as the test robot avatar, so it's neither too big nor too small in Unity

[balmy barn]

click mesh hit F to focus on it zoom after, blender have it easier with that annoyance

but if your mesh super tiny it can have the clipping issue

[plain mural]

Unfortunately, the mesh is still not visible in the pose when creating the animation :(

it's not super duper small

[worldly goblet]

working on my first avatar (pretty much 100% from scratch) and. what's going on here.

[timber wharf]

@plain mural thats not in-editor camera settings, those are above 3d preview

[unborn crag]

Why can I only activate one animation? What have I done incorrectly?

[timber wharf]

show us what have you done?

[left egret]

hi my avatar texture is broken in vrchat but alright in unity and the vrc menu, i tried multiple shaders but always the same problem i dont know what to do anymore

[timber wharf]

most likely smth animates it. remove fx layer and see.

[left egret]

oh shit your right, now i just need to find which animation did that thank you so much

[polar valve]

anyone else able to help? still haven't gotten any answers

really desperate :(

[night ember]

you can only have like 4 bones weighted to a vertice

[polar valve]

could you explain more in depth?

[night ember]

in unity it only uses 4 of the bones for weight

[polar valve]

what do you mean weight? so sorry im just new to all of this

[night ember]

weight yknow
weight painting

how the mesh knows what bone to follow and how much

[polar valve]

ohh okay so how could I fix it? is it an issue w the torso or legs

[night ember]

the legs Ig?

🤷‍♂️

dont know how you weighted it

[polar valve]

uh

I have photos a sec

[night ember]

the bones are clearly rotating a part before the bone

so its going to rotate the other way

[polar valve]

im on phone rn forgive me uh

do you need any more screenshots im sorry im just like really stressed cause ive got no clue on hoe to fix it LOL

its the same weight paint as my other models which is why im so confused and lost

it feels like everything i do creates a new problem

the same for the torso as well which is why im so confused

I can get anything you need if you can figure it out :( no tutorials have been helpful at all

[night ember]

the armature in unity doesnt look the same

[polar valve]

yeah im not really sure on what the issue is, is it because the bones arent connected from hips to legs on blender

[night ember]

no?

you dont connect the bones to begin with

they just need to be parented to the hip

[polar valve]

they are in unity and blender

does relative parenting need to be selected

[night ember]

if its parented then its parented

did you like rig it as humanoid then later moved bones in blender

[polar valve]

yes

but I re rigged as humanoid

[night ember]

then you need to reset the bones

[polar valve]

would it be better to just re import things entirely

like redo the model's stuff in unity

[night ember]

that model doesnt look sfw

[unborn crag]

How many layers do you need for facial expression toggles?

[night ember]

depends on how you want to do it

I split my mouth and eyes so I can keep lipsync without it clipping

[unborn crag]

I have 8 facial expressions I followed the guide on youtube that everyone watched

thing is, only 1 is playing in game

i can only toggle 1 on our off and it's my first one

[mint fossil]

mb

[unborn crag]

i'm going crazy I feel like this should be such an easy fix man

[night ember]

idk how you set it up

[unborn crag]

https://youtu.be/UU9NFJz2qls?si=eA_55dk7_TUJc9KH&t=161

i followed this

to a teee

on the second option

[night ember]

well of course only 1 toggle would be active at a time

you used an int

[unborn crag]

Alright so, what am i doing wrong

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

this is a video not what you did

[unborn crag]

I used an int

[night ember]

ok?

[unborn crag]

why are you rude for no reason?

[night ember]

Im not?

Im waiting for you to tell me all that you did

[willow salmon]

hey guys so does anyone here know what the chibi skip4d model is? and how to add face tracking to it???

[night ember]

like yea you used an int
but what else

[night ember]

does it have the blendshapes for face tracking

[unborn crag]

that's why i showed you the tutorial I did everything the guy did

mamma mia man

[night ember]

If you did then it would be working

So you in fact didnt do everything

[unborn crag]

hmm well idk where to start

what should I show you

[night ember]

I need to see what you did specifically

Like screenshots

[unborn crag]

alrighty

@night ember

[celest lodge]

My boyfriend got it to work there was something wrong with the blueprint and he had to use some VPN to get it to delete

[night ember]

whys the submenu using the paremeter

[jagged vessel]

would anyone recommend some videos about properly creating blendshapes and fixing the model after? Every time i've tried to import a novabeast into blender, add hair then turn it into a blendshape it always breaks the entire model and i have 0 idea what i'm doing wrong

i've been following stuff from pxinky

[somber sequoia]

explain what "breaks the entire model" means?

[jagged vessel]

i'll try my best to describe this

[night ember]

just use screenshots

[jagged vessel]

currently dont have the project open rn, i just want something i can watch and follow along to soon once i'm done with work

[unborn crag]

well it was telling my my parameter was not defined or something

[somber sequoia]

kinda hard to know what advice to give without knowing what problem you want to solve

[jagged vessel]

The entire model is in the wrong rotation, size and position, etc. Even after I apply all transformations. All materials are in the wrong places, the model stays in T-Pose mode, and if I set up the avatar (I use a plugin called pumpkins avatar tools), it still ends up being broken and I can't figure out why. The animations wont work, either

[somber sequoia]

ok - I don't see how a shape key would cause any of that.

[jagged vessel]

i wouldnt either

[night ember]

submenus dont need a parameter

if you put a parameter on it then it literally will only ever be that value if the submenu is open

[unborn crag]

it already had one to begin it defaults into vrc expression menu

i'll remove it and see what happens tehee

[night ember]

submenus arent supposed to have a parameter on it not unless you want it to toggle something if you are in that menu

[unborn crag]

so....

[night ember]

why did you write "Cheese"

also

[somber sequoia]

You can just delete that parameter unless you actually want to use it, in which case, use a parameter that's actually in your parameter list.

[unborn crag]

oh

i like cheese i dunno why lmao

okay... i create it

sure

[night ember]

no like

why did you write cheese in the parameter input

[unborn crag]

i removed it

i didn't see

[night ember]

just leave it empty

[unborn crag]

yes i am now

but do i click create button??

[somber sequoia]

what create button?

[night ember]

you put in your avatar's parameter list

[unborn crag]

the one I already had??

[night ember]

yes?

[unborn crag]

but you told me to remove it

[night ember]

no I didnt

[unborn crag]

omg i'm so confused

[night ember]

said video you followed has the parameter toggle empty

you did not

[unborn crag]

right but it was like 3 years ago so... probably things changed since then

[night ember]

I told you to remove that

[unborn crag]

oooh

okay i understand

is it ok boss?

[night ember]

I mean there is no error

[unborn crag]

uhu

[night ember]

whenever you put a parameter there
when you open that submenu the parameter gets set to that value

[unborn crag]

oh okay

so that might've been why i could only play one animation then

i'll see if it works

[unborn crag]

It works now... thank you sososooo much. Truly thank you a million times over. Much love to you ❤️ Be well

[timid gust]

Heyo im Sasha and I am looking for some help with avatar creation. I belive this is the right place to ask but i apologize if this isnt. I have been learning and trying very hard to figure out how to fully create The Awtter avatar base into a custom avatar. I've tried from Youtube to Google and when i try to do as they say, everything is different, or out of date. I'm looking for someone who is knowledgeable and able to help me learn as I'm more of a hands on learner than a video's kind of person lol. If your willing to help please DM me, im open to any form of help.

[night ember]

just state your issue

[regal musk]

How do you turn a .mesh.ascii into fbx

[timid gust]

Well honestly everything so far has confused me, and that the guides i've gotten online don't do the same things as they should. I've had 1 person who was very familiar with The Awtter and even they were very confused as my version was newer than the one they had. From what I'm guessing is the primary problem is I'm not super knowledge on avatar creation since i learn better from being shown or guided, since videos dont have the same problems i have or they explain things in ways i dont understand, as well as the UI's don't match up to what I'm told they are supposed to look like.

[night ember]

whered you get it

[regal musk]

deviant art

[night ember]

link?

[regal musk]

https://www.deviantart.com/cookm3/art/MGS3-Food-Models-Full-Pack-for-XNALara-1074630141

[night ember]

that isnt a specific issue

[night ember]

so ripped assets from metal gear

[regal musk]

Mhm

[night ember]

no ones helping you with ripped files

[regal musk]

Aw man

[night ember]

nor should you be using ripped files

[somber sequoia]

If you don't have exactly all of the same things the tutorial maker has, of course there will be some differences, and you'll have to be able to work around those. Learning more general stuff will help in these cases too.

which also means that anyone helping you is going to probably give more general advice too, it's not likely they will have exactly your situation.

[night ember]

what issue specifically are you having

like downloading unity?
avatar not uploading? what specifically

[timid gust]

The issue is that the instruction online have different UI's than what i have, as well as me not being able to learn what i need to do as I'm not familiar with The Awtter base. I'm hoping for help that can help me through the process in a way that i can understand.

[hazy quest]

Drag and drop the avatar in the Project window (to make a prefab), but not link it with the generated prefab?
By default, it gets linked to the newly made prefab.

[somber sequoia]

hmm I wouldn't expect drastically different UIs

[night ember]

the only drastically different is 2.0 to 3.0

[somber sequoia]

yeah

[timid gust]

So far its confused one person who was familiar with avatar creation as well as 3 diffrent tech support people who even had came in person because they thought it would be easier.

[somber sequoia]

anyway, feel free to talk about specific problems, we probably can't really help with such general things

[junior void]

Could also be incorrect unity version, no?

[somber sequoia]

again, with absolutely no specific details, there's no way we have any idea what to say here