avatar-help

[somber sequoia]

for the latter, this is a good primer: https://www.poiyomi.com/special-fx/uv-tile-discard

[coarse thistle]

Guys i need help

how do i fix this?

so far ive tried these two ways

1. Click Body and the Pants and Click transfer weights

2. Tried going in the Modifier and adding the data transfer from there and applying the data layers

[somber sequoia]

if you mean the bad weight painting, yeah - do better weight painting. Don't rely on any automated tool, they're all just okay, you'll probably have to touch up the results of all of them.

[round quiver]

could anyone help me with this in unity my avatar looks fine but when I upload it to vrchat the head messes up?

[coarse thistle]

idk if it is weight painting or not i mean it doesn't do i unless i sit down or stretch my likes

[somber sequoia]

looks like it probably is

put it in blender and pose it and see if you can recreate the issue

[coarse thistle]

yeah i can its only when i spread my legs

[somber sequoia]

Yep, weight paint. Or you might actually need more topology there so it flexes/bends well. It's a difficult spot to get right.

[coarse thistle]

more topology?

[somber sequoia]

more faces, more edges. maybe rework the existing topology so it flexes better

[coarse thistle]

so what would you say try first? and do you use a weight painting video?

[somber sequoia]

I did at first but that was a long time ago so I don't have one to recommend now

without actually playing with this myself and watching it move it's difficult to tell you exactly what to do

[coarse thistle]

dang yeah im new to putting diffrennt clothes on i mean the other pants i have works fine

[wary wedge]

Does anyone know how i fix this issue?
All i have on the avatar is expressions and goco

[coarse thistle]

try

i think its pumpkin or avatar 3.0 manager

[somber sequoia]

which issue? these are just warnings.

[coarse thistle]

theres a option where it says to set all of them to wd on or off

[wary wedge]

The one the mouse cursor is on

[coarse thistle]

just checked

its 3.0 manager

use that

[somber sequoia]

ah I didn't realize you were indicating with that.

[wary wedge]

Its finee

[wet pier]

Can somebody help out with this rig for me?

(the rest of the fingers do this as well)

[coarse thistle]

try

enforce t pose

sometimes it works

[coarse thistle]

its mostly a 30 percent chance of working for me

[wet pier]

fingers offset

its a blender issue

[coarse thistle]

oh try i think people use a diffrent armature thing

i think people use mixamo

[wet pier]

It has hair bones though

[round quiver]

someone please help I made it worse 😭

[wet pier]

sad...

[queen isle]

Anyone know why Gesture Manager is making my model go into bicycle pose and how to fix it?

[wet pier]

is the face a seperate mesh?

[round quiver]

then the body?

[wet pier]

yes

[round quiver]

yea

[wet pier]

add armature link to it using vrcfury and had it linked to your head bone

[round quiver]

the body and head share the same armature tho

[wet pier]

as in the same bone?

[round quiver]

yea

[wet pier]

thats a rig issue

you need to fix it in blender

[wet pier]

Is your face a seperate mesh still?

[round quiver]

yea

[wet pier]

then merge the mesh

ctrl j in blender

vroid has no way of doing this as far as im aware

[round quiver]

ok ill try it

[round quiver]

it wont let me post it to vrchat now because it says the face mesh is not specified

[wet pier]

??? thats not a requirement

[round quiver]

I just made it use the body instead because the head is connected to it

[static mica]

I don't know where to get help with this but is anyone else having issues with the audiolink thing not working? I've trying reimporting and doing a new project even uninstalling and reinstalling but the second I change the song OR do anything the audiolink gives me an error. I just don't want to have to open vrc everytime I want to test my avi's audiolink. ;-;

[somber sequoia]

Yes - it doesn't work at all on Linux, so what I do is delete the youtube audio source object and in the other object there, you can just put in an audio file from your project.

If you're having yt-dlp issues, this'll work for you as well.

[round quiver]

it did not work

[wet pier]

did you select the entire mesh

ie both the meshes

[round quiver]

I think so yea

both the body and head are the same mesh now

[static mica]

Okay thank you, I was having trouble with the yt-dlp. I'll try what you suggested.

[obtuse flicker]

This also happens to another model with most of the same parts

Anyone know why this is happening? Trying to change the material in the animaiton but it screws up immediately when switching it and says the object is missing

[still shuttle]

Anyone know a fix for jittery physbones?

[wooden nova]

can we upload yet?

[little plume]

im trying to make a hinge bone for my gun but nothing shows up

i added the component to the right bone, because moving the bones moves the part I want to grab, yet nothing happens

[still shuttle]

add like .01 to the Y axis of the endpoint position

ici

[wet pier]

why is my eye look doing this

eyes look normal in the rig

[brazen heron]

I need help figuring out why this is suddenly showing?

Nevermind figured it out-

[void spoke]

can soneone help me with avatars

[somber sequoia]

that's what this channel is for. Ask specific questions, provide as much info as you can.

[void spoke]

im trying to import a avatar and idk how\

[somber sequoia]

have you watched a tutorial on that yet?

[void spoke]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

Ok then explain what you've done and where you are stuck.

[void spoke]

nvm

[sweet crypt]

anyone good with assigning textures to a material. My Bf got me a texture and idk where the textures go?

[little plume]

depends on the shader

[sweet crypt]

poiyomi

[little plume]

put it here

[safe spire]

anyone know how i can swap the existing texture with a new one on my avatar?

[sweet crypt]

im also talking metallic and roughness

[little plume]

specular in poiyomi

just use the search button

[somber sequoia]

just like in the image above you, depending on shader

[sweet crypt]

shit i be dumb tyyy

[glacial quail]

Unity's bone constraints don't work but what i'm looking for doesn't exist in vrchat's constraints (rotation constraints so i can limit the rotation of a bone, i'm making a robot character and i want it to have limited mobility)

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, there are no limiters available, it's quite annoying.

[glacial quail]

is there a way to edit animations in bulk?

[somber sequoia]

there are for physbones, but not anything else.

[glacial quail]

as in like bake the constraints

[safe spire]

im sorry but i need a explanation

i have a png file where would i put it?

[somber sequoia]

depends which texture you want to change, and if you want this to be an animation or just a one-time permanent thing.
And which shader you're using.

[glacial quail]

?

[little plume]

any explanation?

[somber sequoia]

you can bulk-edit via C# script, or anything that can edit yaml files, since that's all .anim files are. But other than that, in Unity... there isn't really something that can do this

[sweet crypt]

the tetxure didnt come with stuff how do i get the tetxure on the horns and jewlery

only think i can figure out is that its a mapcap

[little plume]

they might not be textures they might just be a shader material

it looks like they interact with lighting using normal maps and stuff so probably just a poiyomi material if I had to guess

[slender loom]

Sorry for the annoying question, but i'm testing the water in unity with my own new avi. But when i imported it i got a warning that looked like this. Could someone better versed in unity explain what's happening?

[night ember]

you didnt weight paint vertices

if no weight they dont follow bones

unity tries its best to auto fix by just setting the weight to 1 at the "best" bone

a lot of the time just the hip

[slender loom]

But i did, the place it's happening is at the neck which is weight painted.

[night ember]

it says otherwise

[slender loom]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-scout-emperor's-new-groove-sad-crying-gif-2850780683684966486

ok and odd question. when exporting a model to unity should u export it at FBX all scale or units scale?

[misty laurel]

I’m having a weird problem. Trying to make a compression shirt in blender for a bought avatar — I selected part of the body mesh in the shape of the shirt, duplicated and separated it, then added a solidify modifier for some thickness. Looks perfect in blender and follows the armature fine. All transforms are applied and I’ve removed every shapekey before exporting.

But in unity, it only fits properly around the torso — the sleeves and shoulders shrink slightly and clip into the arms. It’s like there’s a shapekey shrinking the arms or scaling the mesh weirdly, but the shirt mesh itself has no blendshapes. The avatar has a bunch of shapekeys, but they’re all set to 0 in blender, and only a few facial ones are active in unity.

Only thing I can think of is some unity import setting or some bones are getting scaled for some reason.
Any clues as to what could be the culprit?

[tardy locust]

Does the audiolink package for unity not work anymore? It's just returning can't play this URL errors whenever it tries to play anything from youtube

[left stream]

how would i fix up things like decals i use in my material when i pack uvs in blender? the nardoragon has a blush decal, but it doesn't work on my optimized one because i edited the uv map

[molten rampart]

issue is still happening!
gogo works fine in gesture manager but not in vrchat
and ONLY on this avi
pls help!

[somber sequoia]

That uses yt-dlp, which is often a problem, scroll up a bit, I said what I do about this

[tardy locust]

I mean, yeah, I got a local file working— I was trying to get youtube URLs to work.

[somber sequoia]

ah, yeah that's still a problem, because yt-dlp and google trying to prevent us from doing that.

[tardy locust]

Bleh, alright

[somber sequoia]

?

[stable badger]

i've got a quick question about custom normals:

are custom normals and blendshapes mutually exclusive? the fluff i made for my avatar uses custom normals, but setting Blend Shape Normals to Import in the model's import settings messes up its blendshapes and makes them shade flat when activated, while setting it to Calculate straight up removes the custom normals on my fluff. should i just have the fluff as a separate model?

[somber sequoia]

I export from Blender with smoothing set to Face and then use Import, seems to work ok in most cases

[rancid anvil]

Anyone know how to make a Toggle swap where you toggle another toggle on and the other one toggle off

[copper hill]

Has anybody ever gotten this error message before? I don't know what it means

[somber sequoia]

You could use the positive case for one animation and the negative of the same variable for the other.
Or use VRC Avatar Paramter Driver to set variables on an animation state

[somber sequoia]

You can't have a mesh object with the same name as a humanoid bone, in this case "Head"

[copper hill]

Ohhhhh. Thanks!

[rancid anvil]

Is there a video on the vrc avatar parameter driver?

[somber sequoia]

I don't know of any, but there's docs here:
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#avatar-parameter-driver

[stable badger]

it works great, thanks!

[somber sequoia]

oh nice! I think it was Zero I got that idea from, but yeah, been working great for me too

[copper hill]

So for some reason, this happens when I test the model out with the Gesture Manager. Anybody know why this might be? It looks fine otherwise.

[copper hill]

I tried everything I could. Gogoloco and other addons installed weren’t an issue. All mesh and armature transforms in Blender have been centered to 1,1,1. Merging meshes didn’t help. Do I just have a bad Unity project maybe? Or do I need to re-download the Gesture Manager? I don’t know how accurately the gesture manager reflects how the model will be in game, but yeah…

[red crow]

any reason why this emitter (An empty game object childed to my avatar's gun) is emitting above his head in play mode and not at the tip of the gun where I put the emitter?

it's not even emitting where the guns are in tpose..

[somber sequoia]

0,0,0 is the world origin

[copper hill]

I meant that

It’s centered in Blender and in Unity is what I meant to say

[somber sequoia]

all transforms applied in Blender, on all objects?

[copper hill]

Yep

I think it has to do with the gesture emulator because it looks and acts fine otherwise until I turn it on.

[somber sequoia]

acts fine in-game?

gesture manager doesn't do anything weird here, it's probably not the actual cause.
But if you want to test that, remove it, and test with AV3 Emulator

[misty spear]

Does someone know how I can stop the waistband of my avatars skirt from moving when I add physbones in unity? I’ve tried removing all weight paint from the area and even removed the tops bones but it continues to move with the rest of the skirt.

[somber sequoia]

with no weight paint it'd move with the hips bone

[copper hill]

It’s the same thing with AV3. Weird

I’ll test it in game and see what happens

[somber sequoia]

Yeah definitely something about the avatar then

[copper hill]

Yep. Can confirm. Avatar is so tall that I couldn’t get out of the game normally. x-x

What should I troubleshoot?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure I understand what's happening, and you got all the first things I thought of

[copper hill]

I don’t know what’s happening either.

Reimporting the model fixed the issue!!

[somber sequoia]

ugh!

I hate that.

[copper hill]

At least the issue’s solved! It’s a pretty easy model with not much on it, so y e

[red crow]

anyone?

The simulation space is set to Local if that's helpful

[brave edge]

Is the transform reset to 0,0,0?

[somber sequoia]

it's not really clear from that where the parent objects are. what is GunsL and where is it?

[red crow]

Guns L is left hand gun, it's the gun in the hand facing the viewer in that screenshpt

[somber sequoia]

I'm also guessing that GameObject is the thing we're referring to

But check the locations of each parent

[red crow]

No, because I used transform to place the gun to begin with

is there a way to lock that in like with Blender?

resetting the transform does put it where the emitter shooting from in Play mode

[uncut lotus]

Got a question about Blendshapes.

If I make a blendshape for Key 1, that I reaaaally like, and wanna become the main Key, or default. Is there a way to kinda swap what Key 1 and the main Key is like?

[brave edge]

I don't know specifically about how the emitter you're using works (I'm a general Unity programmer), but it sounds like the object(s) it's emitting are being Instantiated() based on the gun's transform, and not the GameObject you've created.

I don't know how you might be specifying this, with your emitter, however.

[red crow]

wait I think i fixed it. both guns were sharing a prefab so I unpacked it and it fixed it

I'm just using the base unity emitter

[somber sequoia]

You can select the default key, usually named Basis. Go into edit mode, select all vertices you want, then in the vertex menu, "blend to shape", select the key you like, and a value of 1. That will apply that new key to the basis.
Then probably go delete that key since it'll now be doubled up.
Save before doing this, of course 🙂

check the other shape keys though, they may not be quite what you expect if the default is shifted.

.... I didn't mention: this is in Blender.

[uncut lotus]

So while messing around, I noticed clicking the arrows on the side kinda achive the same effects sorta? Could that cause problems in the future?

[somber sequoia]

you mean the arrows to move shape keys around?

if you move something to the first position, that doesn't make other keys which are based on the original basis key now based on the new one

can't say I've tried to re-base all of those to a new key, since that's a lot of work 🙂

but I suspect you could if you wanted to

[blissful mantle]

how to use a radialpuppet with int

[somber sequoia]

you don't - they take float values

[uncut lotus]

Well, kinda to explain my problem, is I modeled a charecter that has their mouth open a lot, with it closed, since I figured it would be easier to work with it closed. Then with Blend shapes, Id prefer it stays open, and a closed mouth as a toggle for instance. So I only have 2 Shape keys, one just trying to make the smile

[digital dew]

Is vcc working now?
-# I was able to upload once last night before it gave out on me again

[somber sequoia]

oh, with only two keys you could probably just re-order them, then make the new second one be based on the first

[uncut lotus]

Oh ok

thanks

[somber sequoia]

#server-status seems to say everything is fine

[digital dew]

Yeah idk

It said it was fine this morning when I tried but it was still not working

[blissful mantle]

what can i use int with

[somber sequoia]

probably some other cause then

[somber sequoia]

menu control types are described here:
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/expression-menu-and-controls#types-of-controls

[digital dew]

It's vcc not the avi

[somber sequoia]

#creator-companion perhaps then?

[digital dew]

Probably just taking its time to work fully again

[somber sequoia]

oh do you mean the white screen thing? Look in there for details, it's a Windows update issue

(use alcom)

[digital dew]

Nah

Alcom is sketchy imo

[somber sequoia]

weird take, but okay.

[digital dew]

Just looks sketch- and my computer gives me a virus warning for it

[somber sequoia]

don't trust those things

[balmy sun]

ok so I swear just the other day I was able to use crunch compress when uploading for android/quest and I went to do it today and its not actually compressing anything?? has crunch compressed ever worked for quest? is there a work around?

[somber sequoia]

crunch isn't great anyway, it results in delays loading your avatar and reduces quality

[balmy sun]

aw man

it makes the avatar download smaller though

which is why it would be useful for quest uploads

[somber sequoia]

yep, but there are probably better ways to do that.

[blissful mantle]

how doni select an int with a radial button i want a button to correspond with a int

[tacit valley]

i've been trying to figure out what's causing this odd animation behavior for a while, I have a gun I modeled out from scratch and for some reason when animating the gun to rotate it will follow the axis, but suddenly playing the animation it completely ignores what I was doing. Anyone else run into this before?

https://gyazo.com/16eb20a82a8611810b357827baacb38a

link is a screengrab of my unity project btw

[somber sequoia]

you don't really - I suppose you could use Avatar Parameter Driver and a complex animation layer to turn the float into an int.... but why? Why not just use the float value instead?

[balmy sun]

back to low quality textures and questies complaining 😭

[blissful mantle]

because optimization

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what that would get you though

[blissful mantle]

i want to be able to set the int number with a button

[somber sequoia]

oh with a button you can, use a toggle

[tacit valley]

Fixed, wackass blender export settings be damned. Leaving this in case someone else has the same issue.

[languid dagger]

When I'm importing a rigged avatar model from blender I to the creators kit, is there anything I need to look out for in terms of shaders, textures etc? I also say some stuff about optimization but I'm not sure I'm tech savvy enough to know what they are talking about there, would anyone be able to clarify?

[azure crown]

So I need some help pls. I'm adding the teku logo decal which required 3 and I lined them up. One of them is on the hood part. I tried separating the mesh in blender and also made that another matieral but when I exported it. The model disappeared. I could export as new fbx but it already comes with vrc fury setup

[stray lintel]

can anyone help me

My animations are playing only once

I'm trying to have the blades stay out when I do the fist gesture once

[somber sequoia]

like 3/4 of this video could be cut, but it looks like your exit transitions have no conditions, so they run immediately. I think you only clicked one here, so I'm not actually sure.
If you want the animator to stay in a state you have to actually keep it there with a condition. Such as "blades = true" to turn it on, but then on the return transition use the condition "blades = false" or it'll just exit immediately

[stray lintel]

ah ok

so which transition should I put blades=true?

The one to the blades extend?

[somber sequoia]

from off to on, of course

[stray lintel]

ah ok

[somber sequoia]

I don't actually know what these do, I wasn't paying attention to that, I was just skimming the video for the details about the animator

[stray lintel]

ok

here's the animator

[gaunt cobalt]

Help? Model's feet are stuck in hips, even on desktop mode

[stray lintel]

anyone able to help?

[somber sequoia]

that video isn't playing for me

[stray lintel]

weird

does this work

[gaunt cobalt]

It's fine in Unity, but the moment the model is loaded into VRC, the feet are in the body. Regardless of if it's walking or standing

[slow panther]

i downloaded an emote pack, the animations are fine when i prview them, but when i press play the car is no longer attached to me, and of course if i link it to any other body part the animation messes up,

and this also goes for any of the ridable bits in this package.

any idea how to set this up or fixz this or attach all these animation clips to my avatar so they play properly

im also using the vrcemotemanager

should i create a root bone or something to my avatar so it attach it with vrc arm link - idk

[somber sequoia]

if you make it a .mp4 it'll embed, but I think it's a weird discord issue.
Either way images are probably better. Also describe the problem

[stray lintel]

it's animating once only

[somber sequoia]

so same issue - did you do what I sugested?

[stray lintel]

yep

no dice

[somber sequoia]

maybe show the setup then

[stray lintel]

same setup for blade enable except flipped

[placid mica]

After making an animation my Avatar is stuck in this position even after exiting the preview- halp

[stray lintel]

do you have pumpkin's avatar tools?

[placid mica]

I do

[stray lintel]

have you tried doing T-pose?

[placid mica]

I havent used those tools much, but I'll take a look

[placid mica]

How do I do that?

[stray lintel]

avatar

[placid mica]

Nvm. found it!

[placid mica]

Thank you!

[stray lintel]

Reset pose

Yep np

[somber sequoia]

ok but what do the other transitions do?

I looked at your video but there's really not enough to go on, sorry

[tardy locust]

Is there any easy way to mark an object to not export it to VRC? Sort of like how Blender lets you only export visible meshes...

[junior void]

Do not parent the object to the avatar

[digital dew]

Add scene, pull object to the scene that doesn't have your avatar

[tardy locust]

Anyway that lets me keep the hierarchy intact?

[digital dew]

Delete the object if you don't want it wym

[tardy locust]

No, I'm thinking more in terms of different versions of the avatar since VRC has really low polygon limits, except without having to manage all of the common stuff

[digital dew]

Make a different copy of your avatar

[somber sequoia]

mark it editor only, top of the inspector

[tardy locust]

This? Alright

[somber sequoia]

yep

[tardy locust]

Yep, that's perfect, thanks

[red crow]

I'm trying to make the previously mentioned particle generator activated when I make a fist, but the tutorial I'm following says to edit the parameters section, but myparameters looks like this and not like in the tutorial (where it just says the vRC expressions etc. part w/o the none) . Did I accidentally delete a default file? (I'm also using VRCfury/Gogoloco so that also might be why...)

[ornate stump]

You have to create new files for it. Default file isn't that useful anyway.

[junior void]

In files, right click, create, vrc, parameter file

[still ore]

Does anyone know if there's a way to do avatar world constraints with vrc constraints? I used unity constraints for an avatar I did, but it no longer works now.

[latent idol]

does anyone know why i can upload avatars? i accepted the thing but after that it just takes ages to show me that i didnt accept it after all suddenly? and the rest of the hud just wont load either like i cant change name picture or choose any tags

[digital dew]

I cant either still
-# It's been 4 days

[red crow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UaOIAAcbPc Still having issues, I followed the animation section onward of this tutorial exactly and I double checked everything is as it says. the only difference is that I'm using gogoloco/VRCFury but even when I use the menu merger thingy it still won't do anything

[ornate stump]

Enable Freeze to World option in constraint.

[ornate stump]

Is it your new avatar or you want to update?

[latent idol]

just update

[ornate stump]

Try sign out and sign in again.

Also you might have to update the sdk.

[latent idol]

i just signed in

[latent idol]

Already did

[quick token]

hi so uh basically i have this issue and well uh basically with the image the autofix makes the blendshapes kinda messed up even though they looked fine before but it wont let me upload like that and ive been stuck with this issue and i keep going in circles...

[ornate stump]

I'm not sure what happen to the sdk then. Maybe try uploading as a new avatar?

[latent idol]

new avis dont work either

[ornate stump]

What sdk version you currently have?

[latent idol]

newest one since i just updated recently 3.9

another person seems to have the same problem

[ornate stump]

Can you see your own avatar list from Content Manager tab?

[latent idol]

nope

[ornate stump]

For reference, how mess up it is?

[latent idol]

the creator companion wont load either been like this for a few days too

[quick token]

one quick example

[ornate stump]

There was large server outage 2 days ago. I'm not sure if it's side effect from that. But I can updated my avatar yesterday.

[latent idol]

yea theyre probably still broken

[ornate stump]

In the fbx model import settings, try changing "BlendsShape Normals" option to either "None" or "Import".

[vocal plume]

hey I'm trying to upload the quest side of an avatar for my partner and it wont let mw switch to android may anyone help?

[quick token]

first image is what happens when i set it to import, none just broke it

[ornate stump]

You install Android build module.

[quick token]

(its on)

[vocal plume]

Oh where would I get that?

I havent made a quest avi in months lol

[ornate stump]

See menu File > Build Settings and see what it say about Android.

[vocal plume]

oh ok ty I will try

[misty laurel]

bump

[vocal plume]

Ty It worked I got there avi uploaded bweeee

[languid dagger]

the editor is claiming my feet arent specified but ive named all of my bones, am i doing something wrong?

[junior void]

That claim is about that unity failed to auto recognize them

It has nothing to do with blender or your naming

See the rig import settings in unity and configure the bone assignments there

[languid dagger]

okay! where would i locate those?

[junior void]

Click your fbx in your assets

See inspector

[languid dagger]

hmmm, okay, ive popped it open, and it seems to have located the feet int he settings themselves but it still gives the warning.

[junior void]

Is the correct bone in the foot slot

[digital dew]

This is cause vcc isn't working correctly for some people right? Or is it something I can fix

[junior void]

Likely there are more useful errors further up

First 3-5 are usually it

[digital dew]

This is the only error

[languid dagger]

well ill be porked it looks like my mexh and armatures have somehow gotten swapped 180 degrees

[junior void]

Your naming is messed up then

[junior void]

Right leg should be if you see the rig from first person, the right leg there. Right leg should not be right from when you view it face on

[languid dagger]

wait i see it i rotated the mesh in blender by accident before i exported

[junior void]

Check that your naming follows first person view

[junior void]

Anything in the validations?

[digital dew]

No, it's not the avatar I've had the same error on 4 different ones

I was able to upload one avatar yesterday and then it went back to this

[junior void]

If something was wrong with unity itself, you'd get a butt load of other errors unrelated to the sdk. You can try updating your sdk and packages, perhaps even try a different network to rule out it's a breaking connection during upload

[languid dagger]

alright that fixed it right up, thanks! now i just need to apply texture

[digital dew]

Ima guess it's just vcc then cause it's not my wifi or me needing to update stuff cause it's all set to the newest versions for my SDK and addons

[naive ermine]

can someone help me with this ;w; been stuck on here sine last night

[stray lintel]

Anyone able to help me with this

My animations play, but they don't stay on

NVM!!!!

Finally found it out!

had my write defaults on on the idle animation

[left gull]

kinda looks like your normals are inverted, check the face orientation in blender and if they're red flip em

[naive ermine]

;w; ah! Crap , thanks for the advice I'll do that right now! I'm already partly bald irl I don't wanna be bald in games too

[frail vessel]

does anybody know how to get the dextro cloning system on my toggle wheel? i have everything setup but it's not there

[torn crypt]

MAke sure the DCS is enabled and loaded after LC API then open it's config file and set
enabletogglewheelintegration = true.
and then restart the game, i think after this it should be fixed

[frail vessel]

Wait wdym sorry, I dont understand

[frail vessel]

it keeps making a seperate avatar that isn't even under my orignal one so when i drag and drop it onto my avatar it breaks everything

[somber sequoia]

isn't that what the clone system does though?

[frail vessel]

i watched a video and it's suppose to create the avatar under yours in the hiearchy but mine is making a whole new one that isnt even attached to my orignal avatar

[somber sequoia]

oh I see

[frail vessel]

yeahhh, ive watched this video multiple times but nothing seems to work :c

i just uploaded the clone as the main avatar and it worked

[daring lark]

This is random but I was filming content by casting my quest onto my iPhone then pressing record thru the meta app , but I have no clue where to find the videos from casting.

[timid ether]

after I added more shapekeys to velle in blender, she has a grin and "eye_heart" stuck on her in unity (the hearts seem to disappear when playing a motion in certain MMD worlds)

[small valve]

What is the difference between ".fbx" and ".fbx (experimental)" and what what benefits does the experimental fbx have and should I use it as my model format for my VRC Avatar?

I don't find anything useful in google besides that the new fbx experimental is C++ and the normal fbx is Python .

[fickle bridge]

i want to use my avi in blender, how do i do that?

is there a way to export it as fbx in vrcc unity??

[gaunt cobalt]

Poking this again, haven’t had any luck

[night ember]

Dont know what your rig looks like

[gaunt cobalt]

Need a screenshot of the bones?

[night ember]

Your rig in general

[dark jay]

Stupid question, if a model doesn't have thigh physics/not ment to have thigh physics like thigh jiggle how would i add it

And how would i also make it so the whole leg doesnt jiggle

Lmk

[night ember]

Separate bone

[dark jay]

So, would it be like a bone with duplicate weights of the leg bone?

And is it possible to do it without a seperate bone

[night ember]

Not really

Separate bone that is child of leg bone

[dark jay]

Ah ok and do i weight it myself or can it have similar weights to the leg bone

Trying to understand it

[night ember]

You cant have weight over 1

[dark jay]

Weight over 1?

[dark jay]

I was thinking having it have the same weight as the leg but its not the leg weight its named something else

[night ember]

You cant have weight over 1

All bones weighted to a vert needs to equal 1

[dark jay]

Oh ok

Equal one?

[night ember]

The literal value of 1

Wwight painting bones is between 0 and 1

That includes every other bone all added together

[distant onyx]

Has anyone encountered this problem in Blender? I have created twist bones. Their logic works correctly, but when I rotate the wrist, the hand looks step-like. I have created a weight area for each bone with a gradient, so everything should be smooth, but it is not.

[frank phoenix]

so, swapped clothng n blender, kept bone structure, its for an alt version of same avatar but this keeps happening

This in question:

[blissful mantle]

why does the animation get loaded thatss connected to the entry state ?

[frank phoenix]

its not folding with the legs, it seems

[blissful mantle]

like after joining 2 worlds specifically the animation plugged intonentry state gets activated

and then it doesnt respect the saved state

so in this case after joining 2 worlds it will go back to hair off

all the toggles are saved and synced btw

and hair even is set to default

why specific after 2 world does it activate the animation thats connected to entry

[night ember]

You dont need like 20 bones for twist bones

[distant onyx]

Thank you! What is the acceptable amount of twist bones? I thought more was better.

[night ember]

More is significantly worse

Also thats not how you set them up

They match the bone you are giving twist to

And its usually just 1

So you can constrain with lower weight so it only partially twists for the lower bone

[distant onyx]

Thank you very much! I' ll try it.

[vernal quarry]

Heyo, I'm making an avatar with three heads, and was wondering if it's possible to add a toggle to deactivate the visemes on the two extra heads?
if so, how?

[somber sequoia]

I've done this - the answer is yes, but not easy. You can only have one head mesh if you want vrchat to run the visemes, so you have to do shenanigans to setup which head speaks. You could do the animations yourself with the Viseme parameter, but I found that didn't work very well.
I tried a few methods but ended up doing UV tile discarding, where each head had a duplicate of all vertices that move with viseme shape keys, and swap those around as needed.

[balmy barn]

have a toggle to disable certain heads, detect viseme , blendtree it has to be really fast - any state can work but not the one that has multiple transition you will notice delay

[somber sequoia]

yeah, the delay is why I didn't go with that method

[nova saffron]

Anyone know the system people use for a combat system instead of a typical weapon toggle?

[vernal quarry]

thanks for the relpies, I'll look into the UV tile discarding!

[somber sequoia]

great primer: https://www.poiyomi.com/special-fx/uv-tile-discard

especially the part down the page about how to set it up

[vernal quarry]

thanks!

[night ember]

do what

[somber sequoia]

I'm actually planning to do this again to a new avatar, just need to find the time.

[night ember]

be aware that tile discarding doesnt agree with post processing or fog in worlds

[somber sequoia]

yep, it's got some caveats.

[night ember]

youd kinda have the outline of the stuff you discarded

[somber sequoia]

In this case it's literally the mesh duplicated, so you really don't notice it (I tested). With clothing.. yeah, you can tell.

[vernal quarry]

ah damn x'D

[night ember]

tis why I like to give it a bone to shrink or blendshape (despite blendshapes making the size larger)

[somber sequoia]

I don't find it overly annoying, it's more like "oh hey, that's happening here, neat."

[night ember]

if you do that and discard itd make the issue not as horrible

[somber sequoia]

I tried bone shrinking and the blendshapes made it get really weird. I didn't try very hard though, since tile discard works well enough here for me.

but yeah both together is a good idea

[night ember]

bone shrinking just doubles your armature size
blendshapes you have to uniformly scale down or else it stretches weirdly since weights dont shift with blendshapes

basically just alt s

if you discard clipping doesnt matter so you can just alt s until its at least to your body underneath

[dark jay]

whats the best physbone values for thighs

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

entirely up to you to figure out

[azure crown]

anyone got any ideas for this issue?

[night ember]

pull > how much it tries to get back to the original rotation
spring > how much it swings back and forth when reaching the point
gravity > gravity
gravity falloff > how much it pulls based on how far its rotated
immobile > how much movement affects it
limit type > angle polar or hinge so it can only rotate in that area
collision > collision size based on spheres
colliders > custom colliders you can set based on the physbone collider component you add to other objects

[night ember]

overwrite the fbx
or if its not packed to the fbx you have to restart

[azure crown]

So go back to blender did what I did before with either another matieral on hoodie.
Then export, find the same fbx in the unity then then double click for export?

[night ember]

if that overwrites it sure

[gaunt cobalt]

So this model is @pseudo pine's, he'll have any screenshots you need. I was just trying to help since he wasn't originally in this server

[pseudo pine]

I can get those momentarily 🙃

[night ember]

[pseudo pine]

So it was riging photos you need to diagnose it?

This I believe \

[night ember]

what about blender

[pseudo pine]

Never touched blender. I started working in unity and somewhere down the line the legs mucked up.

Prior to me making edits it was working, So I feel like it's something I did in unity.

[night ember]

why is that a clone

[pseudo pine]

That, Is an excellent question

[night ember]

you arent supposed to upload the clone generated by fury or whatever you used

[pine sundial]

opening the armature turns it into a clone and closing the armature uncloneifies it

[pseudo pine]

I wouldn't be surprised if that's the issue. I downloaded VRFury, Then changed to Modular Avatar.

[night ember]

could be

[night ember]

never noticed

[pseudo pine]

?

[pine sundial]

avatar configuration

[pseudo pine]

Ah

[nova saffron]

I’ve seen avatars have a combat mode that adds a grip point to their sheathed weapon so they can draw it instead of doing a simple toggle for their weapon.

[night ember]

gesture + contact in the condition

its still a simple toggle its just the way the parameter is flipped is different

basically you just have 2 conditions in a transition checking for if the contact is true and your gesture is true
it switches to held state or back

Id recommend using a parameter driver on the "simple toggle" parameter so you can 100% guarantee is syncs for remote players

[still zealot]

This is my first time uploading a avi and getting a "Failed to upload File" any fix?

[latent peak]

why forth?

[night ember]

need more context

[latent peak]

Mine saying somthing about floot3 or something and its failing to upload

[still zealot]

i wouldn't know how to fix that I'm only able to take a model and upload it 🥹

[latent peak]

"Avater creation is easer then world creation they said"

like I am ready to upload it why it gotta be so difficult.

[still zealot]

truely

[nova saffron]

Gotcha, and I’m guessing depending on parameters I can even change it down to motion and gestures

[dusk elbow]

hii, i was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how i can change the default height in which my avatar spawns in as, when you select them? I was wondering if i need to do something in the avatar unity project or in blender?

[somber sequoia]

scale it in Blender or Unity, either one works. I usually scale in Unity in the model import though, so it's at a scale of 1 in Unity itself, that way any add-on things don't have weird scaling. And it's the default scale in Blender so any extras I add there don't need to be re-scaled either, and if I make assets for others, the are also at the model's default scale

[dusk elbow]

Thanks! I'll give that a try with the unity import. Thanks again, it solved my issue!

[misty spear]

Does someone know how I can stop the waistband of my avatars skirt from moving when I add physbones in unity? I’ve tried removing all weight paint from the area and even removed the tops bones but it continues to move with the rest of the skirt.

[devout tinsel]

Quick question, how do I make it so the edges of my avatar don't show up like that? Is there a setting I forgot to change on Unity or is it because I didn't shade smooth it on Blender?

The edges on the chest and arms for example, not the outline

[crude pebble]

Hihi ^^ I recently got a model commissioned of my sona for use in VRC, it has basic humanoid rigging and all the bones needed to function in VRC from what I can tell but when I try to upload it through the VRCsdk Unity gives me these errors, Usually the second one and then when I do ANYTHING to try and fix it the first two take its place :(

I have the entire Avi set up besides it being uploaded, I've verified that the bones are functional by testing it in the Gesture manager addon + Gogoloco posing and animations and everything seems to function correctly! 😭 any help would be appreciated!

(i took a look in the blender file aswell to check the bone parenting and they seem correctly parented?

[glacial quail]

I want to make a 2d avatar that turns to face the player, (billboards) but has its sprites change depending on the angle you're viewing it from. (and also has sprites for motion.) How would I do that?

[timid ether]

it's pushed out like this as well and I'm not sure why

[somber sequoia]

that's what it looks like to me.

[azure crown]

Question on vrcfury.
Currently fixing up my menus and such.
I got the hoodie to work but I had a jacket previously and I plan on having it setup with vrc fury. There a way I can have it where only one toggle at a time is enabled for said clothing? So I don't have jacket and hoodie on at once? I know how to do it manually but I want to know if there's a vrc fury way?

Edit: same said for toggles props as I have 2 vehicles I am adding

[crisp perch]

can i convert a stl 3d printer file to a blender file to make a vrchat avatar

[uncut lotus]

So Im trying to use the CATS plugin to make the visemes, but it keeps showing an error message, and not working.

Before - after 'create Viseme'

What am I doing wrong

[latent peak]

Does anyone know why Unity hates me?

like we dont own sweetie I have the rights to have it

[wheat flame]

Unity does the same to me ALL THE TIME

[latent peak]

I have a quest and a PC one and the one made for quest works fine but the one for pc the GOOD one dont???

[wheat flame]

Btw!! A friend gave me files to a human avi, it was a whole project folder and fully built already- but it won’t let me upload it once I change it to how I wanted it to look…

[wheat flame]

Yeah that’s happened to me a lot

Sometimes you just gotta clear the console and then close & save the project, re-open it and try again

Otherwise you may have to restart entirely

[devout tinsel]

It was lmao

[distant onyx]

That helped, thank you! Do you happen to know how to solve one another problem? Now in Unity, when I rotate the wrist, my arm gets thinner. In Blender, I could fix this by enabling Preserve Volume. Is there anything similar in Unity?

[junior void]

Twist bones and rotation constraints

Or corrective blendshapes

[distant onyx]

Yeah, I applied them. But then my problem happened.

[latent peak]

I founded my ways around👹

[wheat flame]

That’s good!!

[round comet]

John Doe

[uncut lotus]

Yess!

[timid ether]

oh crap, I fixed it, mb

[pastel glen]

was balling out making springbonnie and then the inspector broke my heart and idk what ANY OF THIS MEANS 😭

can someone help me out?

first photo shows the errors and the second one shows the animation clip attached to the vrcfury toggle component

[bold turret]

Anyone know why the eye tracking on my avatar with the bsb2e isn't as good as other avis, the pupils can clip throught the eyelids when looking to the edge of the displays and when blinking the eyelids can clip into each other

[keen rover]

how do i fix the arrows not popping up when i click edit on the Veiw position

[bold turret]

You have gizmos turned off by accident

[distant onyx]

Do you mean that it is possible to correct volume shrinking in unity with corrective blendshapes? Could you tell how does it work, please?

[glacial quail]

?

[fervent ocean]

i dont know if i should put this in the beta or the avatar section but im having problems with my avatars physbones being stuck straight upwards but its only happening in the beta, some of them work while others dont, the confusing thing is there are no consistent outliers in neither the ones that work and the ones that dont, is anyone else having this issue?

[devout tree]

look for a 2nd set of arrows at the feet of your model when editing the view

[tardy pike]

Anyone know what’s up

[frank dawn]

uhh,, anyone else getting this issue?

this is my vrchat creator companion btw

[tardy pike]

Close from taskbar and open again maybe?

[digital dew]

Update windows

[digital dew]

Lower SDK when uploading

[frank dawn]

i redownloaded it and now it shows this QwQ

[tardy pike]

The windows one works fine it still uploads that but quest version doesn’t

Version 2022.3.22f1

[digital dew]

Huh

[digital dew]

I said lower your sdk, I didn't say anything about windows or which unity version

[tardy pike]

How do I do that because I’m very dumb

[digital dew]

In vcc

[tardy pike]

Ohhhhh

[digital dew]

@frank dawn

[tardy pike]

It’s on 3.7.6

[digital dew]

Try updating to 3.8.2 then

Just don't use 3.9

[frank dawn]

okay one unistalled and the other one wasnt in the device

it worked!! AH thankies!!

[tardy pike]

Thank you

[raw spindle]

hey so i was just wondering, i have a face swap because my face is 2d and i have a Halloween texture but i want the face to swap to the halloween face aswell. So what im asking is when i have the halloween texture on and i swap the face it will also go to the halloween face of that expression?

the ones with backgrounds are just quest versions dont mind it

so i have 2 of each, one for default and one for halloween

i am using vrcfury

[tardy pike]

Word it works now guess it was just me being stupid as per usual

[modest moss]

Does anyone know anyone who could upload avatars for free?

I have the files just don't have a pc

[left gull]

Thats super unsafe to do especially with random users and if you're trying to upload a paid model check that it allows filesharing as 99% of them dont

ontop of giving ur account info for it you'd also become that users alt account and vice versa so if they do something ban worthy you could get hit with it too

are the parameters for the toggle sync'd?

[modest moss]

The avatars are free Avis I found and I change my password a lot

[neat coral]

is that correct^ Im so lost lol

if thats what you meant

[digital dew]

try asking in the creator of the avatars server, Most of the time they do offer uploads

[modest moss]

Ok

[brittle grove]

please help, im not too great with this whole unity thing but after adding Gogoloco to my avatar and testing some of the poses in gesturemanager, my avatar's tail got all weirdly inverted.. any fixes?

[cold agate]

Is there anyone who can upload an avi for me? My brother is unsure of how to fix the script and upload it and I just bought the avi. I would like to use it soon

[somber sequoia]

Feel free to post errors, but otherwise, you'll get scammers around here, so probably don't trust anyone who replies to that

[quasi spindle]

Anyone make object show avis if so can u dm me

I need help making a rig

[tame cave]

I need help, my avatar stays below the ground when I start play mode

[west bluff]

I've someone that can help
If you don't mind

[sterile relic]

Scammer 😭

[neat coral]

can anyone help me w this

[west bluff]

Why do you said that?
Does anyone told you that I scammed ?

We've to treat ourselves respectively

[quasi spindle]

I got it covered, it was just i need to use weight paint

[left matrix]

can someone help me create an avatar? I'm not understanding how to do it even with youtube videos 💀

[warm phoenix]

im trying to figure out how to work off of a base and it's very complicated

[night ember]

Thats vague

[warm phoenix]

my bad

uhm

I have a gator avatar base

and I'm having trouble porting it into unity

[ornate stump]

Can you explain the trouble?

[warm phoenix]

nevermind I got the package imported

just didn't know the proper menu before to import it

[devout tree]

how do i mirror pose a 2 opposite sided bones in unity?

[hasty badge]

Am I the only one getting this error?

It has a thumbnail and im still getting this error

[sullen robin]

Me too

Try Detaching avi descriptor reloading sdk or restarting unity. One of those 3 things just worked for me

[hasty badge]

still going on

[plucky drum]

ive gotten a bit silly and for my first avatar with facial expression ive decided on a nontraditional approach.
the eyes, brows and mouth function by sliding the UVs across a texture with a bunch of sprites. are there any tutorials or guides that anybody knows of that can show me how to make talking and facial expressions work with a setup like this?

ive seen avatars that do this like Waterpark Shark but this is my first time experimenting with an avatar with facial expressions at all so im out of my depth

[night ember]

Split the 2 axis for what you want to do

Like x axis is the lipsync
Y axis is the expression

Split the eyes and mouth and you have 2 sets of axis

[plucky drum]

the eyes and the mouth are already separate i believe

seperate textures and meshes

[night ember]

Then just pan it on the one axis or other

[plucky drum]

yeah i figured that was how it worked. i more so dont know how im gonna make it do that when i make certain sounds is what im trying to figure out

my unity file is still being created so i wanted to get ontop of it and see if there were any premade tutorials around that i could watch while it loads :3

[night ember]

Vrchat has default parameters

[hasty badge]

I tried deleting the avi
reopening unity
capturing the thumbnail
nothing

[sullen robin]

weird...

by deleting it you mean deleting the one that was uploaded right? Because for me it uploaded one to the site but I couldnt use it at all

[hasty badge]

yeah

constantly having to remake the avi for it to get the same error

And every time i do a fresh upload it fails and removes the thumbnail

[plucky drum]

not really sure what that means

[night ember]

It has default parameters including viseme

Literally just use that

[plucky drum]

oki doki

looks like VRCfury has something similar too

[night ember]

You dont need fury

Like at all

[plucky drum]

i know but when trying to figure it out myself fury was the first thing i saw with viseme, never even heard that word till now

tho it does spit out this error no matter where i apply it

so ill look at the default VRchat viseme stuff

when i find it

[hasty badge]

it weird cause when i upload for my friends it uploads fine

[plucky drum]

new weird issue

when i click configure on my rig it doesnt open the menu for assigning bones?

idk why the menu isnt even opening when i click configure?

[ornate stump]

Expand the "Import Messages" below.

[plucky drum]

i did, it says what the yellow warming message says

[hasty badge]

alright i finally got it to upload

[ornate stump]

Try changing Type to None, apply, and change back to Humanoid.

[plucky drum]

same error

wont even let me open the tab to assign the bone properly

i click configure and nothing happends after it selects the rig

im googling the issue and i cant find anyone else running into it :/

[somber sequoia]

look in all of your inspector windows, it probably opened in one you didn't expect

[tame cave]

How can I fix this, it happens when I'm in play mode

[lavish copper]

hello guys. I’m tryna find mostly Eboy avatars without having to pay solo on quest. without converting. in prismic what do I need to search or worlds to find eboy? (a lot of accessories also)

[teal laurel]

Fix what?

[tame cave]

When I enter play mode it puts itself in that pose

And even if I upload it, the same thing happens.

[night ember]

And what exactly did you put on the avatar

Cause thats just the default pose when animating

[tame cave]

I literally just threw it into the project.

[night ember]

Thats a lot more than throwing into a project

You got gesture manager n stuff

[tame cave]

Yep

[night ember]

[tame cave]

XD

[plucky drum]

so i have some stuff set up on my avatar now, but i want to add new bones to make the eyes move, will i have to entirely restart if i wanna edit my meshes rig?

[lost umbra]

How do you figure out what is causing the issue with the animations?

[ornate stump]

You have to explain the issue first.

It's like saying "there is an issue with my car" and there are hundred of possible issues.

[lost umbra]

Animation is attempting to play, int method to change clothes. But for some reason the pants flicker and not swap.

I got less than 15 hours to fix it and I still have work soon in 4 hours for my 12 hour shift. Im going to bed.

On the floor, it shows that it's attempt to play. Just the animation is somehow being override but no cluse what's causing it.

Im asking how to look for animation/parameter effecting specific animations variable so I know ow what's causing it

[ornate stump]

Do you make the toggle yourself in animator controller, or with vrcfury?

[lost umbra]

Manual

I just got done making 5 other avi using the same template, the last avi for the event had a hiccup

Aka the issue I'm currently having

[ornate stump]

How did you make the controller? Also providing screenshot is better than just typing.

[lost umbra]

Manually made the template. Then I simply copy paste it, reassigned to the specific models, rinse and repeat. I made mine, the bride and groom (yes irl&vrc wedding event avatars) and I was working on the one of the "best man's" avatar when I had some issues.

Events happening real soon and I need to finish and upload all of them by tonight.

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot it as well so I know what exactly you're working with?

Otherwise I can only say that you have to retrace every step you did to make sure that you did no mistake.

[lost umbra]

and as you would expect, no actaul change besides a brief flash of pants only to snap back

I did check animation just in case for ALL of them. Nothing. They all seem right as well

[ornate stump]

Then also double check the transition condition for into and out from the pants state. Screenshot to confirm as well.

[night ember]

Im questioning why you didnt just use anystate

[lost umbra]

the other bottom clothing slots are all correct as well

[ornate stump]

If the pants show up for a frame, then what show up after that?

[lost umbra]

no just pants, cant change it to others. it's stuck on it

[ornate stump]

Pants is continuously flickering?

[lost umbra]

only when trying to change it

it's just not swapping to anything else

pant's stuck

[ornate stump]

Then check for the second keyframe of other animations.

[lost umbra]

thanks, that was it. the pants off state (aka handles the swimsuit and underwear state) was the issue

had to simply swap them around and it's fixed now

[warm oyster]

I can't seem to enter play mode to test this avi for this issue and I have NO IDEA how to fix this?

[junior void]

Update or remove vrc quest tools?

[ornate stump]

Look like your avatar also include various tool in its package, and is moved out of it expect directory, and it's outdate.

[warm oyster]

Just remove the folder all together?

[warm oyster]

so should I remove the folder to fix it?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[warm oyster]

W, it worked. Legends

[magic storm]

help anyone?

Hey guys, I got my unity fucked up so i been trying uninstalling whole unity, cause the unity keep saying unity running as admintinion idk how get that shit off? pls helps?

worse is its dont let me click "restart unity as a standard user" either

[neat spire]

any ideas on how to fix this? the right thumb bone is parented correctly in blender, assigned correctly in unity, and is literally just a symmetrized version of the left bone, which was successfully assigned. everything is identical between them, I have no idea what could be causing this

claims it's not in t-pose and it's stopping my right hand from animating correctly

[neat spire]

the issue persists even with all my FX and GES menus removed, I've tried forcing the t-pose and the animation issue persists. I'm at my whit's end here

[gilded vector]

how do i fix this issue with importing edited fbx's? ( it mentions a mountain tall lists of blendshapes it cant generate and the prefab isnt updated right but the fbx is fine?

[balmy barn]

doesnt really affect anything, have avatars with it - some setting in blender you need to change but i dont remember what or unity

been posted in this discord glazed over it

[lost umbra]

Question, how do you force a specific prehab or setting to prevent avatar resizing from working? I want to make sure that the avali avi isn't able to get big.

[cedar echo]

Question I have four material slots on my avatar and I want to change only one thing on one material but I don't know how to select a specific material in the animation thing

[cedar echo]

All you have to do is do a slight rotation of it and that should fix it

[somber sequoia]

You have to use a shader that lets you rename properties, such as Poiyomi, otherwise it'll affect all slots.

[cedar echo]

So I'm kind of forced to use material swaps then, because I don't want to use poiyomi on this avi

[somber sequoia]

You could split that mesh up by material, or find some other shader can do this.

[cedar echo]

I can't really use any other shader because I'm trying to make sure the stuff works for quest

[somber sequoia]

ahh, then yeah

Though ideally fewer materials is better in that case

[cedar echo]

I'm trying something different than how I normally make stuff so it's not going to be that optimized cuz it is my first time doing it

[lime hawk]

Quick question does anyone know what I’d have to do to make a toggle that’s activated when I grab a physbone and stays on until I toggle it off with my expressions menu?

[cedar echo]

You could probably use a contact, plus some animation State stuff

[lime hawk]

It has to be the physbone tho because I’m pulling a cord to activate something

[cedar echo]

Then I don't know if you can even detect that

[lime hawk]

Well I mean I got it to work it just kinda breaks there’s the Is_grabbed book for the physbones

[ornate stump]

You'd have to use parameter driver to change toggle parameter, and use the physbone parameter as condition to control the driver.

[lime hawk]

How would I use the parameter driver to toggle it in the same transition or? Sorry if I’m kinda slow I I never done an Is_Grabe’s toggle before

[ornate stump]

You need 2 layers for that. One layer is for the toggle itself, another layer is for parameter driver only.

[lime hawk]

Can the driven layer just be the basic toggle so = toggle off -> true toggle off false ?

[ornate stump]

I don't clearly understand that but probably right.

[lime hawk]

Sorry, my bad I just mean is the toggle layer just supposed to be a normal toggle layer or do I need any second conditions in my transitions?

[ornate stump]

Toggle layer only reacts to the toggle parameter. No physbone parameter involve here.

In other words, you have to create a toggle that can be control via the menu first.

[lime hawk]

Yeah don’t worry I got It I was just curious if anything has to be done to the transitions

[ornate stump]

There is nothing special to any transition.

[lime hawk]

Sorry my bad I just never worked with physbones that much so I thought I’d learn it

[ornate stump]

It simply is just another parameter just like every other parameter.

[lime hawk]

Alrighty!

[random aurora]

hey so im like 100% new to blender as a whole, and have no idea what i'm doing, i managed this but i've no idea how to make it animated

also i was told there were too many vertices for being a quest avatar

[left gull]

you're gonna wanna merge those meshes and the materials if possible (or atlas the materials) as for the verts thing toggle the statisic option on and see if its outside the limits listed for mobile here: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system/#mobile-limits it'll be listed as tris/triangles

((where to toggle the stat thing ))

[wild hare]

ok I found a avatar pc only and it has a zone that can be placed down and it counts down all players in the zone during when it finishes counting can only see it but it makes the zone have particals and all that making it to where it also looks like you are in another world in the world you do it in and I was wondering if this can be done in pc and quest support

except I don’t plan on doing a lot of partials

[random aurora]

how do i merge the meshes and materials? is it just the ctrl j thing?

[left gull]

ctrl j merges meshes as for materials you'd go to the material tab and just delete the duplicate meshes BUT if each mesh is using a different texture or is just using solid colours you'd need to join them (atlas them) in a image editor like photoshop,gimp ETC then re-setup the meshe's to fit the new UV

theres also add-ons that'll do this for you but they can be a bit iffy (material combiner is the one ive tried https://github.com/Grim-es/material-combiner-addon )

[random aurora]

ctrl j took away his ear texture :(

[balmy barn]

2 different uv names can do that

make sure they are named the same before joining

[left gull]

you'd check em here and make sure they fully match up name-wise its case sensitive

[random aurora]

okay now that that's been figured out, these are all the materials he's got

[wanton dew]

is the fact that i'm designing this avatar with quest in mind going to kill me and ruin everything? my goal is 2d eyes and 2d mouth/visemes, and i'm not sure what aspects of these are incompatible with quest? is it just transparency??? i don't get it 😔

this is not only my first avatar but my first full human 3d model so this has been a process

[left gull]

really only transparency that causes issues with 2d viesemes/eyes imo

but if you've just got flat colours behind em it isnt too bad

[balmy barn]

just make sure the background on 2d face stuff are the same, dont need transparency

[wanton dew]

alright

[balmy barn]

if you have eyes/mouth on its own plane weighted to a bone you can scale & move them around too

one way to make a 2d blink just squish the bone

[wanton dew]

if i want to have a custom blink texture, would that work the same way as 2d visemes

[balmy barn]

yup

but you will have more materials, this one have 3 cause upper face / lower and main body

[wanton dew]

first of all awesome

that is so cool lol

[balmy barn]

uv shifts dont like being on the same mesh , especially on quest

[wanton dew]

makes sense makes sense

[balmy barn]

pc can use decals on same, so much easier

[wanton dew]

sucks that quest can't 😭

so, 3 materials, one for the body, one for the eyes, and one for the mouth?

[balmy barn]

it will be 3 meshes that way and instantly very poor for quest

my quest version only does the entire face on its seperate mesh wich isnt good = 2 meshes , pc have upper/lower & a decal version i tested but it was more how to do 2d faces then actuallyusing it so never really done much after

[wanton dew]

m

so is this a battle i cannot win lmao

[balmy barn]

2 meshes fine , id avoid 3 on quest

[wanton dew]

kinda crazy that having 3 meshes would instantly mess that up even when two of them are just planes

[ornate stump]

It contributes to draw calls. And one draw call cost much time than few thousand tris..

[wanton dew]

😔

what if the eyes were a part of the same mesh and i had the blinking animation just be another plane appearing out of the face

that way only the mouth is its own mesh

[ornate stump]

That also work but you will have to customize blinking animation for that.

[wanton dew]

well

just one more thing to figure out it'll be fine 🥲

[left gull]

oooh i do my blinks like that

super ez to setup and theres a few prefabs that you could use to make it work

if u dont wanna setup ur own

[wanton dew]

oh that's awesome!

i haven't imported into unity yet but i would be very interested in that

what's the blender side

[left gull]

i personally do 4 eye option (normal,blink,look left,look right) and make a blendshape for each of them coming out (though for the normal eyes their blendshape makes them hide into the head)

and i setup a tile sheet like this for the eyes so each's UV is set to a different look but all use the same texture and material

(for the quest version i just fill the background with w/e colour the skin is)

[wanton dew]

love the way that looks that's so awesome!!!!!!

[random aurora]

decided to give the fingers bones while waiting :p

[left gull]

also to add on to this, your mouth could also be merged onto your body if you do your viesemes the same way you'd do with my eye suggestion so its only an extra material rather then another mesh

[wanton dew]

well then i guess i'll try it, i'm a little bit scared that it's gonna be a bit of a process 😨 '

blendshapes are the same as shapekeys no?

[left gull]

yep

and the only thing ive found people struggle with using this method is setting up the atlas for the textures

[wanton dew]

what's so hard about that?

[left gull]

they use image editors ive never worked with so i cant help em with using the program

so when they setup the faces and mess up with something we both kinda blank on how to fix it

[wanton dew]

m gotcha

i don't think i'll have trouble with it honestly if it's how i'm imagining

[random aurora]

have just been poking around with things to try to figure them out myself, how do i use this? ive installed it into blender, but not even the readme says anything

[somber sequoia]

There's a "how to use" section right there in the readme though

[random aurora]

negative ghost rider

[left gull]

i think they meant on the Github

https://github.com/Grim-es/material-combiner-addon/blob/master/README.md

[random aurora]

yk

fair nuff

[autumn seal]

Hello i habe a Problem to Upload my Avatar on Quest. The avatar have only Armature and Body Mesh With 4 Mats all texturs under 1MB an i Get the message the uncompress size to high but why? i have this problem with alle projects and ALL SDKs and Packages are on the newst version

[left gull]

are you trying to add things during upload through something like VRCFury?

[autumn seal]

on this avatar not but other avatar have VRCFury Stuff

[random aurora]

okay so that broke his face-

looks like he just got out of the coal mines

[left gull]

VRCFury stuff doesnt get counted into the stats until it successfully uploads so that could be causing issues with the other ones, you could try checking Thry's avatar performance tool and seeing if anything looks like it could be taking up a buncha space (like blendshapes, avatar texture size etc)

or try going back a SDK version and see if its a bug with the most current one

[left gull]

try resetting or smoothing the normals

[random aurora]

the what

[left gull]

select mesh in edit mode>go to mesh at top>normals> and choose one of the two, if one doesnt work CTRL-Z and undo then try the other

it should fix that, though idk the reason that happens in the first place to prevent it

[random aurora]

okay no neither happened to work-

combining everything but that seems to work, though now his hoodie is shiny-

[left gull]

open the surface dropdown that's there and drag the reflect down to 0

[random aurora]

ah got it

so does that fix work and the bones can be made so that tail and ears can be given life and get it in the game? or are there more steps

[left gull]

that should work, i dont really see any immediate issues from the screenshots you've sent

rig em up and export it to unity, though make sure you save a .blend of the model before you export the model just in-case somethin messes up that you cant see yet

[lean bobcat]

Is it possible to make particles on an avatar be audiolinked?

[digital dew]

Maybe

[lean bobcat]

I plan on adding a borealis effect that floats move and hovers around my character, and I think particles are the best way to male it look great, from what I've gathered on my own though is that audiolink might not be possible, back up options was to make a see through model with a borealis shader effect instead but I think that wouldn't be able to look as good or be as interactive as I'd like it to be

[random aurora]

the only issue i could think of is its anability to be quest compatible cus its got like 50k triangles-

and idk how to make the big number be smaller

[timber wharf]

two maim methods ate subtraction and division

but coming from 3d modelling perspective its decimation

tho it wont look pretty

[true halo]

hello would someone mind helping me troubleshoot? trying to add a drone asset i bought and upload an avatar, i'm getting a couple errors on build

complete fkn novice here

[timber wharf]

imgs of red errors in console pls

[true halo]

........thoughts

[timber wharf]

does it upload on same project without that asset?

[true halo]

um

what?

[timber wharf]

?

[true halo]

oh right

i havent tried uploading the avatar without the asset

but the errors are referring to the asset, the fpv drone

[timber wharf]

well, the first advice is to contact its creator.

[true halo]

i'm not actually all that interested in the specific avatar, i just want to use the asset lol

ah yeah, i have. he's uh... busy

[timber wharf]

theyre the one to make sure it is at least any vcc sdk compatible.

[hazy quest]

Just created a new avatar 2022 project with VCC 🫤

[timber wharf]

@hazy quest restart stuff, first run ever since vcc is always ass. Otherwise i see G: in your paths, unity dont like it, a lot of windows stuff csnnot access drives othet than C: without admin rights

[hazy quest]

I've been using Every drive except C for my VCC projects, and this just started happening recently.

[hazy quest]

Also, if I clear console, it never comes back.

[timber wharf]

then do you care? 🤣 told you to restart. if you can upload succesfully, pay no mind.

vcc spams ton of red for me every first start

[hazy quest]

The last time I created a project and cleared those error, I couldn't receive "Upload Successful" message, even though It was uploading (Wasted a LOT of my time).

[timber wharf]

was it the latest sdk?

[hazy quest]

At first, no.
I did update it though.

[crisp tinsel]

Current hair:
The texture:
The texture doesn't have layers, it's a flat image. How in the hell am I supposed to change the highlight colours?

[timber wharf]

tis life🤷‍♂️

[hazy quest]

The white part is supposed to change color
White = 1 (change)
Black = 0 (no change)

[crisp tinsel]

I need it inverted for thes- hold on i havent actually tried colour inversion

hold please

[crisp tinsel]

and it makes it look like this
i could do it the hard way and do shader swapping with hue shift or do it the easy way and hard code colours

[night ember]

I just used
https://pinetools.com/invert-image-colors

[crisp tinsel]

im using gimp

[night ember]

neat

[crisp tinsel]

now i gotta fuck around and find out for another 30 minutes while i figure out how to select highlights and not get... this

[night ember]

select by color and select the brightest part with raised threshold

[timber wharf]

@crisp tinsel try krita

[crisp tinsel]

you see how stupid the texture is? the bright parts modify other areas of the mesh

[crisp tinsel]

dont need it

[night ember]

its just an automatically created uv map and painted in 3d

[neat coral]

Dose anyone know why I can see my boop particle and sound but nobody else can

[timber wharf]

im suspicious of adobe paying gimp for it to be as bad as it gets, so whenever anyone mentions free software, thats the answer (so you suffer and buy ps). it was bad 18 years ago, it was bad 2 years ago, i dont believe anything changed

[night ember]

cant see your transitions

[timber wharf]

@neat coral and your set is False

in local param driver

[night ember]

theres 2 drivers

[timber wharf]

so whats the idea. of people booping you without you seeing it?

[night ember]

the set synced/boop on driver is not local only despite it being in the synced parameter list

well

[night ember]

Im assuming you put it there

[neat coral]

yes like when they boop you it makes a sound and also particles

[night ember]

is the synced/boop even in your synced parameter list

[night ember]

thats not the synced parameter list

thats your animator parameters

[neat coral]

oh you mean this

no- wait dose it need to be in there

[timber wharf]

yes

[night ember]

if its not in there then its in fact not a synced parameter?

[neat coral]

omfg

im so slow

[timber wharf]

with its full name

[night ember]

like

the remote user isnt seeing the parameter driver fire

[timber wharf]

ie Synced/adfjfjdjks

name means nothing

[sturdy kestrel]

anybody with knowledge of particles know how to make an Eye Trail effect?

[timber wharf]

its judt the same between param list and animator

[crisp tinsel]

how can i use poi to change the colour of the bright parts, i dont have a mask for it, dont know how to create one

[night ember]

"eye trail effect"

[sturdy kestrel]

that's what i said, yes

[night ember]

hand me the texture and I can probably turn it into one

[somber sequoia]

paint white on a black image where you want the effect to occur.

[night ember]

describe it

like eye trail effect is insanely vague

[sturdy kestrel]

So basically, i'd like a particle that leaves a short lasting trail behind when moved

i'd say "Like an anime lol" but i dont watch anime 🤷

[timber wharf]

am i genuinely stupid? i dont see anything affect parts other than mesh

[night ember]

you dont need particles for that

trails are its own thing that particles can have

[sturdy kestrel]

oh? interesting 👁️

[night ember]

its under effects where you can create a particle

[timber wharf]

what are we talking bout

you said highlights

with regards of a texture

[sturdy kestrel]

alright, thanks

[night ember]

this is probably extreme but

[lilac compass]

Currently wokring on an avi from scratch in blender with almost 0 experince (ive used this as a project to get me to learn and its worked alot from where i started) ik it probs looks bad and stuff but i have a simple question. When do shade smooth on this and export it to unity, will it still be all smooth or will i have to smooth it all manually and should not bother with the shade smooth? no where near ready for it but was curious since I'm taking a break to go do some chores also any tips would be greatly appreciated please and thank you

[neat coral]

okay I added them synced/boop and stuff on there

ill test it on vrc

[night ember]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-computer-twitter-gif-12385391

damn it

[night ember]

just use av3 emulator to test
it lets you create nonlocal clones in playmode

[crisp tinsel]

thankss! will test these

[night ember]

heres it even more boosted if not dark enough

[neat coral]

bsfr

[crisp tinsel]

Not sure if I'm even doing this correctly

[neat coral]

emission strength

try turn it up maybe

[crisp tinsel]

okay so im just blind

[neat coral]

Haha nah

[night ember]

mood

[crisp tinsel]

this is 0.1, i feel like it's a bit... dull
but if i go brighter then it just turns into a highlighter

[neat coral]

maybe like 0.15

just try little by little

[crisp tinsel]

i wanted just the ends to light up not the whole hair mesh

[grand scaffold]

If you give the mask more contrast it should look better

[crisp tinsel]

this is 0.15

[neat coral]

^^

[crisp tinsel]

no clue how you made the mask, but can u work ur magic?

[night ember]

I sent a second set of images that was boosted

[crisp tinsel]

oh rihgt hol

[neat coral]

ye use this one

[crisp tinsel]

i guess this works

[night ember]

also you put it under map not mask

[neat coral]

how would I change it

[night ember]

user inputs

[crisp tinsel]

what's the difference, just curious

[neat coral]

?

[crisp tinsel]

cus it is in maps

[night ember]

map is just what the emission uses for a texture
mask is a black and white value of how much it actually CAN influence

like if you slapped that emission all the way up to 20 your texture doesnt matter anymore

however if you stuck it in mask then the black would literally never emission

[night ember]

have you considered dropping down the parameter type

[neat coral]

how so

[night ember]

literally how you dropped down any other part of the menu?

the dropdown arrow?

[crisp tinsel]

ive tried both, i dont notice any difference

[night ember]

I boosted the contrast again but its just making it not gradient and have solid lines between black and white

[neat coral]

I know that but I dont see anything about parameters

[night ember]

they are labeled right there

[crisp tinsel]

i like the middle one

these are all the same emission strength

[neat coral]

right well you said make a non local clone which I did

[night ember]

then toggle the parameter and see if its synced for the nonlocal clone?

[night ember]

it do be nice

because of the fact I can see the hair is just a gradient from top down

likely done in blender or something

you can redo the uv map by just projecting from view or cylinder etc

and just hit one of these

honestly you can drop it down to 64 or 32

[crisp tinsel]

i did that like a year ago

i gotta relearn some things

[night ember]

fair

[crisp tinsel]

some material editing later and we've got this
how did you make emission maps tho?

i know how they work but i cant figure making them out

[night ember]

I just took texture since its black and white and just set the contrast to like 300%

[crisp tinsel]

noted, thanks!

[brittle grove]

please help!!

[random aurora]

yeah it uh... has like almost 100k triangles-

[timber wharf]

dissolve edge loops is most you can do

otherwise stuff comes both q optimised initially and not

cant just make quest run crysis

[somber sequoia]

I love that that's still a joke

[still shuttle]

Do you have the hips mapped properly in the avatar configurator?