avatar-help

[loud vine]

does this look right?

[halcyon kayak]

that's probably fine, though if you can display the view point axis it would help to know if you're accidentally pointing towards your own face instead of away

just click "edit" on the view point and it will show

[loud vine]

i found out what my problem was
It Weird, I Had Put The View In The Back Of The Skull In Unity To Look In The Front Of THe Head In Game
basically Its Inverted

[oblique rover]

im a lil confused on what they mean by

Make your bodys material cutout or transparent

and then applying the legs mask

[junior void]

Materials can (if the shader supports it) have different rendering modes. In poiyomi, you can see that at the very top right on any poi material

Opaque is opaque, transclipping or cutout support alpha/transparency

[unborn sail]

Randomly I get these sets of error and my avatar fails to upload at the "File Uploading Stage" any ideas why or how? I've restarted my pc, reloaded the sdk and I'm on the latest version

[urban current]

so i’m converting an avatar for the first time in a really long time and i forgot how to find the menu of physbones and roots that you can just turn off and on?

[jaunty herald]

Hello! This is my very first time working on an avatar. I bought one and have been customizing it in unity and went to upload and test it for the first time. It seems to have a glowing outline. What is this option called - or rather what setting do I search for - in order to basically remove this?

[still jasper]

I think I'm ready to upload my avatar. Are there any small things that you usually need to do that prople often miss? All I've done is the descriptor, the materials, the physbones, the expression gestures, the visemes, and I did something to the skirt to keep it from clipping (I forgot exactly what I did). Is there anything else I need to do before I upload it??

[still jasper]

It looks like a shader- you would just change the shader type in the material in unity

[jaunty herald]

Thank you! The guide that came with this avatar told me to use Poiyomi so I assume it is adding the outline. I assume it is safe to change shaders despite the guide?

[sharp ocean]

More particularly it looks like rim lighting. Don't quote me on that though.

[jaunty herald]

I will check settings for this ty

[sharp ocean]

Poiyomi has a ton of options in it.
Ye ye no problem

[still jasper]

I mean, it's your avatar lol The shaders are up to you, fully customizeable. It should be safe

[sharp ocean]

What optimization rank is your avatar? If it's very poor maybe try looking into how to get it out of there

[jaunty herald]

This is my very first time working with an avatar or unity in general so I am being very cautious to not break anything.

[still jasper]

Me too dw lol

Shaders are safe though I promise

You can tweak those

[sharp ocean]

Mhm changing things on shaders is usually just an undo if you screw up

[still jasper]

My personal favorite is toonlit shading so I can use my avatars in dark worlds fully lit
It just doesn't add any shading itself, but I include that in my textures

[sharp ocean]

Most shaders will support this. Poiyomi does too it's just a little harder to find with the amount of options in there

I've been using poiyomi for like 5 years ehe

[jaunty herald]

I suspect it might be Dissolve cause the color option in there matches what I am seeing in world

[still jasper]

Oh, yeah, by the way, when changing the shader, make sure it's a VRC compatible one
You can check for those by searching "VRC" in material shading and I think it says something like VRC/mobile for the folder

[still jasper]

I should look into Poiyomi then, I've never used it before nor heard of it

[sharp ocean]

The effect doesn't look like a dissolve imo, could you show the settings

[sharp ocean]

This only really applies for quest. Vrc on PC can support most shaders just in general

[unborn sail]

and now apparently reinstalling all packages fixed it

[sharp ocean]

It's really good. There's others like liltoon and mochi that are just as good it's just preference. But again that all requires pc

Did you see what performance rank your avatar is btw? Great thing to work on keeping to a certain point. If you care about people not lagging anyway

[stone trellis]

i need help in #avatar-rigging

[jaunty herald]

Mine turned out to be medium, but I wouldn't know a thing about blender to try to optimize it further

[sharp ocean]

Medium is absolutely fine. Don't even stress

That's what I use.

[jaunty herald]

I know the uhhh sdk control panel threw lots of issues claiming it was going to be poor... but here in game it says medium

[sharp ocean]

Poor is still fine. Most important is to avoid very poor

[urban current]

where can i find the list of all the physbones and colliders for an avatar in unity?

[timber wharf]

type 't:script' in search bar on top of hierarchy

[lucid slate]

i was doing well with my avatar but i was opening a unity file for a piece of clothing and when it loaded in it made my while avatar look purple like the image above but the confusing part is i tried deleting the file and it was still purple but when i go to the texture to change it to lil toons its all the same as it was before, if any of you guys know id appreciate it

[junior void]

Pink mat = missing or broken shader

[lucid slate]

ive checked the shader they look completely normal

[balmy barn]

set to some material, then back to whatever its using

[lucid slate]

i did

i use lil toon before but now its doing this

[still jasper]

Does someone know how to upload avatars from Alcom? I don't use Creator Companion and the official guide talks about that so it doesn't help much
I have VCC though, so do I NEED it or can I just do it through Alcom?
It's an alternative, but I think the interfaces are different and the guide on the official website doesn't guide me well

Either that or I need a caffeine shot to look at it again because I might just be tired and missed it

[still jasper]

I figured it out nvm

[stone trellis]

check last 3 messages i need to know smth rq

[arctic wing]

I added some audio to this avatar and it works in unity and in desktop mode but when I load into pcvr mode it stops working I don't know what to do

[fiery tiger]

So i have this avatar thats already face tracked and is set up in unity. And im trying to add some new face tracking points (basically all the eyebrow movements). I already have the blend shapes made, but i have no clue where to even leap into it on the unity side and the doccumentation rattles my head a little. Does anyone have any insight on how to do this, or maybe have another place i can look to for guidance that'll be easier to understand?

[still jasper]

How do I make my rig humanoid?? I thought I did but guess not.

[left gull]

go to the .FBX and swap it from generic to humanoid

hit configure and check that the bones are setup properly then apply

[urban current]

how does one reduce the jiggle physics of an avi? because i uploaded a really cute one but JESUS they’re everywhere

[fiery crow]

misty what did u do? 😭

why do i have u blocked lmao

o its a leaker thats why

[left gull]

mess with the phybone settings in unity's playmode till they look better or if its an issue of the going into the model try messing with an angle limiter/hinge in the physbone settings (im pretty sure its called one of those )

[fiery crow]

adjusting the spring and pull will usually do the job yeah, and angle limit too if need be

[grave hornet]

I guess I never knew that non pc users see my avatar differently. Apparently to them it shows my hair floating way above my head. Anyway to fix that?

[left gull]

i always add a note to people b4 i block them incase i forget their name and unblock them its also just easier since alot of people (like leakers) do namechanges often on disc 🙏

[fiery crow]

check ur colliders, physbones collision radius and your gravity so it isnt negative value

[fiery crow]

yeah i gotta start doing that, i went to the dms and saw my message of it lol

different fbx scales can also affect physbones dramatically, kinda just depends on how it was converted and what was done to it

[grave hornet]

Its an avatar I grabbed from booth. I dont think I did much from it outside of changing hair on it. Usually worked fine before. I wish I could preview it without asking a quest user what they see

[fiery crow]

ohhh my bad i read ur question wrong

if its floating way above, id make sure that the modular avatar component/prefab was used correctly

thats typically whats used for booth avis, and it helps merge things to bones and stuff like that

[grave hornet]

Oh I dragged the hair on to the head slot. Should I add an armature link with vrcfury then?

[fiery crow]

does it come as a prefab option for merging? itll be a component somewhere in the prefab, they usually do those things on booth

[grave hornet]

This one had a prefab to it. I normally would drag it to the headslot and it would be done.

[fiery crow]

for those with modular avatar components on the prefab, youd typically want to drop it on the avatar root (the avatar name)

[still jasper]

I did that. it says I set it as humanoid. I redid the tpose and bone configuration and everything.

[fiery crow]

whats the hair hierarchy look like? for the asset

[still jasper]

Me?

[glass solar]

I don see the viewport thing

or dot

[fiery crow]

oh lmao thought u were the same one my bad

[fiery crow]

click that down arrow next to import messages to see the issues with the rig

[grave hornet]

Let me check

[fiery crow]

click the circle in the top right

[glass solar]

ohhhhh

[fiery crow]

yeah u gotta have that open/on to adjust viewpoint

[glass solar]

how did I not notice that lol

[fiery crow]

it happens

[grave hornet]

Im remoted into another pc from my phone so screenshot may look scuffed

[still jasper]

How do I fix this?

[fiery crow]

your mesh names cannot be the same as the humanoid bones, so youll need to rename your mesh object to be something else than "Neck"

[fiery crow]

if u click this prefab, what kind of components are visible in the inspector?

[still jasper]

Ohh. I can just rename them in unity?

[fiery crow]

tbh i dont remember, try unity hierarchy, if that doesnt work, u could try in the fbx config, if not that then blender

ive always corrected it from blender personally, so i cant confidently say

[still jasper]

So do I rename EVERYTHING that it mentioned or just the parts of the mesh and not the bones?

[fiery crow]

just the mesh thats named neck

[still jasper]

Alright. Updating my fbx file shouldn't erase any progess of me doing the physbones or putting on gogo loco though, right?

Alright. I probably have to do it from Blender lol

[fiery crow]

if overwritten correctly it should be okay, as long as u dont change the rig, but backup incase

[grave hornet]

Here is the inspector and scene

[fiery crow]

if Aramature.h18 is empty too (besides physbones) then ig you can have it parented to the head bone, looks like may need some position adjustment tho

[grave hornet]

Ill try something once more then, its just so weird that non pc users see it messed up but others dont

[fiery crow]

yeah its a bit difficult without a pic of it, i dont think having over 64 physbones transforms would cause it to be wayy higher than it should be

im kinda at a loss if it doesnt work

[grave hornet]

Its an auto generated fallback avatar they see right?

Idk if thats the right term, still noobish with this

[split cairn]

Anyone know where I could find a cloak for an avatar?

[halcyon kayak]

you could try making one, it's not so hard in Blender. basically just a subdivided plane with some bones which get a physbone component in unity

[still jasper]

So.. I did that. I don't have a mesh part named shoulder, I have a bone named shoulder. I'm confused. Is it because of the metarig having the same names or is there something else I need to change?
The metarig was just an accident lol, it's my ref in Blender and I just forgot to delete it.

I fixed it

I win

[fiery crow]

[visual bough]

anyone know what causes the messed up polys in substance painter? its not flipped normals, already checked that

[fiery crow]

is this mirrored UVs at all?

[visual bough]

ah yeah these UVS are mirrored, are all the messed up polys just ones that are on the wrong side?

omh yeah i think thats literally it

[fiery crow]

mirrored uvs is just kinda annoying to work with in substance

[visual bough]

its 100% that 😭

thank you lmao

[fiery crow]

[still jasper]

Uhhh it won't let me upload my avatar. "Failed to agree to ownership agreement".

[jaunty herald]

ok yeah turns out I do need help. I edited a blend file to edit some horns that came with an avatar I purchased. Just to remove some extra sprigs. Anyway when I export it to fbx and readd it, it no longer will upload. It claims the new horns are not attached to the avatar. I have tried moving the location of Horns_F to straight under "DragonCat" which also throws the error, it only successfully builds if I put it at the very top but then it doesn't appear on the avatar at all in world. Is there another way to manually set this?

[fiery crow]

try to reload your sdk from the top window, VRChat SDK -> reload, or something similar to that

then try again, sdks kinnda really bugged lately

[inner ingot]

Is it possible to make a toggle that raises and lowers entire avatar? So that when heels go on they won’t be under the map, but the avatar won’t be floating when they’re off.

[balmy barn]

moving viewpoint isnt a thing , hacky ways around it but wouldnt recommend it - spamming posemode every 0.1 sec or camera toggle wich is nausiating

one av with rollerskates , it was either having them on or off, cause viewpoint isnt going to change

[still jasper]

Now it's this.

[left gull]

open the console and see what the top-most red errors say

[still jasper]

It says the exact same thing. "Failed to build avatar, check logs for more details" in the console. I closed and reopened Unity too.

[left gull]

if thats the only red error there then are any of your model's stats past the max limit?

[still jasper]

I think so

Let me check

[unreal juniper]

That shouldn't stop it on its own; SDK will say "max" but if the error isn't red and shaped like a stop sign it won't prevent you from uploading

[unreal juniper]

? Is it the animators? I've never seen that one flag up before

[still jasper]

I'm not sure. The animators are for the visemes.

And expressions.

[unreal juniper]

I feel like there's only supposed to be one - did you make this avatar yourself or is it a pre-built/edit?

[still jasper]

I made it myself.

There's also this with confuses me

[still jasper]

I followed a tutorial by someone who makes vrc avatars, it's supposed to be okay.

[left gull]

thats an error that gets thrown anytime an upload fails

[still jasper]

Ah

[left gull]

it can generally be ignored

[still jasper]

I keep finding so many different answers about it in terms I don't understand

Would any of these other errors cause it??

[left gull]

yeah... you're missing a script (something about gogo)

kinda why id asked if there was any other errors then the blueprint ID one

[still jasper]

Ohhhh.

[left gull]

add gogo loco to your project or remove the script from the model's heirarchy

[still jasper]

I did add Gogo loco to the project- or so as I followed a tutorial. It told me to download it from gumroad, import it into the assets, and just drag and drop on the avatar in the hierarchy. That was it.

Why does everything have to be so complicated 💔

[left gull]

could be that the gumroad version isnt updated? try getting it from the site maybe: https://gogoloco.net/

[still jasper]

And I can apply it the same way if I just delete the old one?

[somber meadow]

VRCFury isn't imported in the project is the issue

not the gglc install directly

https://vrcfury.com/download

[still jasper]

Alr lemme see how this works

Okay, it's been added into Alcom

Now what?

Should I delete the Gogo Loco file and reupload it?

[somber meadow]

manage the project in alcom and import vrcfury into the project with this issue

and uploading should work

[sour sparrow]

how do I make it so that when I toggle something and try to toggle something else, it'll toggle the second toggle thing and not the first?

[vernal yacht]

i need help with my avitar

[sour sparrow]

for example, say I have a toggle that changes the color of my hair, but i have another toggle that changes the hair to a different color, how do I make it so that when I toggle the first, then try toggling the second, the first will automatically toggle off

[still jasper]

Do you have VRCfury? I don't know a lot about it but a friend told me that it has something to do with exclusive tags

Sorta like if they have the same exclusive tag, they won't be on at the same time

I can see if I can find a guide for you

Either that or it has something to do with parameters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtSg6_W07Y
This one looks really promising, I really like this person's tutorials

I hope it helps

[glad drift]

Does anyone know how i can start making a VrChat avatar? I downloaded this modle, but i have no idea how to make it work for VrChat, i dont even know what apps i need to make a VrChat avatar , i downloaded Unity and Blender, along with VCC, but i have like no idea where to go from there lol, the person who made the Modle also made a VRChat avatar, But its PC only and the shorts clip through the body when you move, He said i could download the model and go from there, but where do i even start 🥀 ?

This is what it looks like, i got it for my PC but i really want to use it for my quest

But i heard there was like a limit to an avatar that makes it unusable, its like 20+ MB of an avatar if that effects anything at all 💔

Ive been trying to look for youtube videos but they all seem so confusing, and they are all telling me to download so many dif things in every other video 😭

[still jasper]

I just uploaded my first avatar like two minutes ago and I'd be totally happy to walk you through everything while it's still fresh in my mind

I encountered a lot of errors I think I can help you avoid

[glad drift]

That would be amazing ❤️

[still jasper]

Sweet :)
I'm working on another avi, I already have the model done, so I can work through that and give you steps while I do it to make sure I'm giving the right ones
I made my avis from scratch though, not sure about premade models.. it depends where you got it.

Is it from a game? Gumroad?

[glad drift]

I forgot, i can dm you the link to the youtube video that sent me to the model

[still jasper]

Yes yesss

[sour sparrow]

yeah im using that

[still jasper]

Realllyy quick uhh.. I don't know how to upload my avatar to quest lol

Can someone tell me how to do that?

Apparently it's PC only

[sour sparrow]

yeah im using that

[still jasper]

Try the video link I sent

[left gull]

you'll probably need to look into something like VRCQuest tools or if the models too unoptimized you'd likely need to take it into blender and optimize it

and just swap platforms in the build settings, File>Build Settings>Android iirc?

[still jasper]

It's making me download something to convert it into Andriod

Sigh

[foggy tiger]

I was trying to do something to my model in blender and I exported it back into unity and now my center point of my avatar is like super far away

No clue how to fix it :(

I have a backup of my avatar from before I added the whiskers, but I think I put them on the model wrong or something because the backup doesn't have the problem

I have like no blender experience so I know that's probably where it went wrong

Apparently I broke the backup too actually and I kinda need help to fix it because it makes my camera do this

[foggy tiger]

I tried uploading with the button in the top corner saying pivot instead of center but nothing changed

[grand trellis]

whats the animator command to open it ? [ I'm doing an avi edit ]

[foggy tiger]

Also apparently it messed up all my assets too

[still jasper]

Hey, does anybody know how to fix not being able to convert it to android? I just downloaded the android thing it wanted me to, but it's still greyed out. Do I have to apply it somewhere? Do I have to open the file?

I closed and reopened Unity twice

[fiery crow]

make sure youre consistent with your export scaling

[still jasper]

I think I might have fixed it one se

sec

[foggy tiger]

I think it might have something to do with me initially importing it wrong into blender

I did experimental instead of just FBX bc it's been like a year and a half since I did this stuff and thought they just renamed the FBX option

I might have to make a new project and redo all the stuff I did on a fresh FBX unless there's a way to fix it in blender

[still jasper]

Into Blender or from Blender?

[foggy tiger]

Into blender

[foggy tiger]

I opened the FBX with the experimental option not normal option

Didnt' see the normal one until like 2 hours ago

I think it might've done smthn to the model because it can't be the whiskers I put on it being the problem since the model without them is also broken

[fiery crow]

if you use ctrl+A and click all transforms, while having meshes/rigs selected in blender itll set the scaling to 1.0

usually would want it to be 1 for most avatars

[foggy tiger]

It alr was but rotation was 0.000016d on x

That realistically matters naught tho

I'll try the all transforms thing tho

Didn't work :/

[fiery crow]

whats your export settings?

[fiery crow]

sorry, trying not to die in risk of rain

try fbx All

instead of ALL Local

[foggy tiger]

I can't believe I didn't think of that

It fixed it

That's what I had to do last time as well because I remember having this problem like 2 and a half years ago now

[fiery crow]

yeah thats generally what i have mine set to

[foggy tiger]

Thanks though, I got really worried I messed something up big time.

Now I can say I sucessfully mashed 2 avatars together

Took the rex whiskers and put em on my nardo

Anyways the avi works now, so imma take my leave, cya

[crystal fulcrum]

Hey guys Im a little stumped with this issue, I have a health bar for my character but it tends to like glitch out between health and no health, Its using a dissolve shader, emission, and spectacular reflections on poiyomi, I feel like its a easy fix but im a lil goof ball and dont really know what it could be :/

[still jasper]

Yeah so.. I did the thing with making it android compatible like I needed to

But now what??

It's not working

Apparently it's not working for quest

I don't know what to do

[fiery crow]

may need to adjust your bounding boxes, are these both set to transparent?

[crystal fulcrum]

no at the moment they are set to geometry ill change them to transparent

uh this isnt a skin mesh render tho, its just a normal mesh render

[still jasper]

I fixed it, it's quest compatible.. but my visemes aren't working.
It's set the viseme parameter only, and I think I did it right? Let me get an example of what it looks like

And my expressions aren't working but to be fair I guessed how those work because there was no tutorial that helped with the way my avatar is. I have blendshape expressions that are 2d, and all tutorials I found are wayyy different with realistic anime avis

Okay, so according to someone testing my avatar, the mouth and expressions sorta work.. but not really. They get stuck and don't change. How do I fix?

[steel fjord]

After some messing around, I found some confusions;
Wireframe's not working unless I got this Debugger in the scene, and even then it seems to only outline objects/textures?
All I'm looking to do is a Client-side Toggleable Wireframe Vision, das it

[still jasper]

I think I mightve labeled them wrong and VRC isn't reading it?

The blendshapes do come out.. but they get stuck and don't revert back to their normal state. They're supposed to be inside the head when they're not active. Something's wrong with my Silent and Neutral Hand I think but I don't know what. In case they are labeled wrong, what should they be?
In the animator, of layers, visemes are "Visemes" and I only put expressions on one hand so they're "Left Hand Gestures". The parameters themselves are "Viseme" and "GestureL".

[frail badger]

how does one make a particle system like produce 1 burst of particles on command, just make the system visible or

[unkempt canopy]

was editing an avatar and the default standing/crouching/prone animations disappeared at some point. any idea how to add them back?

[valid marsh]

is there a way to get an avatar to move at a custom speed (not using colliders, those make it way too fast) cuz i kinda need to
i made a sawrunner avatar but it's forced to the world speed and it's not fast enough for how fast he normally moves

[exotic smelt]

hey i am in need of som help i tried to make a crouch animation in unity it looks normal but in vrchat it is kinda floaty like if somone knows a fix for this i wuld be verry happy about it 🙂

it is also whit the DefaultVRCRoboterAvatar like this

[frail badger]

why would a contact receiver not show up on an avatar? it's not animated

[frail badger]

ok new problem: how do i make a contact receiver activate on any contact trigger

[ornate stump]

It's just making toggle for the contact receiver just like any other toggle.

[frail badger]

so i dont add any collision tags?

[ornate stump]

You have to.

[frail badger]

but doesnt that limit it to only working with that specific tag?

[ornate stump]

Ok that's a different question from what I thought. Contact reciever doesn't have option to activate with "any" contact sender.

[frail badger]

aw beans, ty

i dont get it though, ive seen people make shields that block any sort of projectile

unless theres some sort of universal collision tag that everyone puts on their stuff that i dont know about

[ornate stump]

That's just a particle collision.

[peak dagger]

I am having some trouble with the Nyakoh chibi base model as it says it's rig is non humanoid, everybone but the thumbs are green. I asked in another server and was told it wouldn;t effect it but when I uploaded my avi to test it's stuck in t-pose. Idk how to fix the t-pose issue as another avatar I tried to make did had a very similar issue. I've tried a few fixed that reddit and other servers have suggested but I have yet to get it to work. Idk if anyone has had a similar issue or if anyone could help out but it would be greatly helpful!

[ornate stump]

In humanoid rig menu, it won't save if some bone is displayed red, aka invalid. And you have to actually read the text showing why it's red.

[peak dagger]

Okay I'll check what the error is thank you!

This was the error, I tried to change the bone names but that didn't seem to work

[ornate stump]

You have to rename bone in blender.

[peak dagger]

Okay thank you so much you have been massively helpful!!!

Omg it worked Ily!

[sick star]

im trying to make an audio spammable but i cant really figure out how to, anyone know how to?

[sudden violet]

what do you mean by spammable?

[sick star]

its just when i hit someone it has a slight cooldown

[sick star]

the audio has a like 1 second ish cooldown before it can play again

i want there to be alm to none since its a stabbing thing

[junior void]

sounds like transition delay in the animation setup

[sick star]

well it does have these 2 in the animator

[junior void]

click the transitions

[sick star]

i see now, this si the left one but does it matter how much i change them? if i can

is*

[junior void]

Well, the transition is zero. Not sure how long each anim is

[sick star]

ill prob figure it out from here, thank you :D

[undone oracle]

#1419881763995390054 message

anyone else had teh missing prefab in unity problem?

[steel hatch]

is anyone an "expert" with blend shapes that can help me make my beautiful sid the sloth looking ass creation better,

[ornate stump]

What is the scope of the help you need?

[steel hatch]

im just wanting this face to look less like melted ice cream, i couldnt find any good blendshapes to buy from stores so i thought id just ask the community

[junior void]

Thats still very vague

[ornate stump]

Help as in you have specific question, or have someone guide you closely, or just do it all for you?

[sudden violet]

Do you understand what a blendshape is first of all? Because what you need sounds more like sculpting, or editing vertices.
You can't really "buy blendshapes" either, unless someone made blendshapes for an existing model.

unless you mean that you'd want to pay someone to make blendshapes for you (Not trying to be rude of course, just trying to understand what you need exactly)

[steel hatch]

then yesh

i jus want someone whos good at moving blendshapes to help me make this thing look good

[sudden violet]

So, two things to follow.

• First of all, your model would need to actually be shareable (if you bought it online, triple check that it can be shared. Most of the time they aren't)
• Second, you will get A TON of scammers in your DMs from this discord. I would advise #1204506421631393913 message if you want to commission anything.

[steel hatch]

I’ve been dealing with the spam people dw

their not really good at hiding it

[hushed egret]

I'm working on an avi and I want to be able to see her braids in first person, is there a way to disable the head culling vrc does on a specific mesh? The braids are a separate mesh from the hair

[sudden violet]

Yup! Head Chop component

[hushed egret]

ty :3

[steel hatch]

why am i just now realizing, ive never saw my avis hair from my view

[steel hatch]

does this work with any hair thats in view from your view point? like if the hair was just infront of ur eyes, like short hair

[ornate stump]

Of course it can. However, the hair shouldn't be visible in first person view to begin with. If it is then you have another different issue.

[sudden violet]

^

if it helps, here's the documentation as well https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/vrc-headchop/

[balmy barn]

dont need headchop if its a seperate mesh , just constrain it ( mesh of whatever is on root of avatar )

[sudden violet]

Oh didn't think about that, good call

[marble pagoda]

Why when I use freeze to world on any constraint, the first location I freeze the object seems to get set permanently. If I unfreeze and move to a new location and refreeze the object always freezes way to original position. The position does not update when I move. Yes I have tried checking "Rebake offset when unfrozen". Doesnt seem to do anything. What am I doing wrong here???

[balmy barn]

you have no source it wont behave

, doesnt need to be filled it - just grabs whatever its on

just add one

nothing just need to exsist

never used the rebake offset when unfrozen - myself

shouldnt this be locked , mine are

experiment with a box

[steel hatch]

can someone help explain this to me and if theres a way to make it lower?

[sudden violet]

If i remember correctly (anyone can correct me if i'm wrong), that's how much your textures and meshes occupy in the VRAM.

The biggest way to lower it, is adjusting your texture resolutions, as they are the biggest offenders of taking up space.
Some tools like Thry's avatar VRAM calculator can help with that

[balmy barn]

compression of all textures/meshes/animations/sounds/controllers - animations / audio and mesh can be very large ,remove or lower

can be checked using a offline upload

uncompressed/compressed

[vagrant hare]

Can someone tell me how to fix it because my left shoes and glove when I copy and paste them to mirror them to switch to fit the hand and the leg and when I did that I go to the viewport shading it turn like a grass mirror transparency and when inport it on unity it the same thing.

[sudden violet]

i'm saving that, good stuff

[sudden violet]

do the gloves and shoes use the same material?

[vagrant hare]

Nope
I combine the material to create space between them

But it look like a mirror when I mirror them to fit the hand and shoes

[sudden violet]

you'd need to check the shading tab, if anything is plugged into the alpha

[vagrant hare]

Ok I gonna check

[vagrant hare]

Ok the alpha is a problem ty Zyrexal👍❤️

[drifting thunder]

i've converted a vrm model to vrc, everything looks great but the idle mouth animation is open for some reason so all the other expressions have open mouths or open wider when a mouth expression is used
anyone know how to fix it?

[somber sequoia]

if you have a jaw bone mapped in the rig setup, remove that.

[drifting thunder]

might need a little help finding that

[somber sequoia]

most basic setup tutorials describe doing the rig setup, picking "humanoid" from the options

find your model file, look in the inspector, rig tab, click "configure"

[still jasper]

I think the "source has no motion" is the reason my visemes aren't working, but I have no idea how to fix it or what I did wrong. I followed a different tutorial this time because the other one wasn't working out for me. Can someone explain to me how someone fixes the visemes?

[somber sequoia]

that only prevents a preview showing in that specific inspector window

[sudden violet]

are they properly setup in the avatar descriptor as well?

[junior void]

i was gonna ask the same thing - why do we not use the avatar descriptors viseme section

[sudden violet]

to be honest, i've never realized there is a layer for lipsync, but it looks very straight forward.

[somber sequoia]

I could see if you have a good reason to do it manually, such as needing to animate multiple meshes or doing 2D things

but if you don't, definitely let VRChat do this for you

[junior void]

Better just merge meshes

[balmy barn]

2d face stuff or sending it to other meshes, not having a single viseme shapekey ect

[somber sequoia]

of course if you can, yes

[sudden violet]

so if i get it correctly, you can either setup visemise with the VRChat avatar descriptor, or set it in the FXlayer?

or do you need to do both?

[junior void]

either or

[still jasper]

I have no idea. I'm just following a video

[still jasper]

I did have to animate multiple meshes since my visemes are little 2d planes that come out when she's supposed to talk

[balmy barn]

set lipsynch to viseme parameter only

[somber sequoia]

doesn't sound like you'd really need those to be a separate mesh, but it's certainly a way to do it.

[still jasper]

I did try doing the FX layer which didn't work, but I don't know about the other thing. If it's about manually assigning blendshapes to sounds, I can't do that.

[somber sequoia]

I'd join 'em all into the body mesh.

[still jasper]

It is.

[drifting thunder]

seems like i dont have a rig tab cuz the model used to be vrm before converting it

[still jasper]

I wouldn't really be able to individually move them without moving the others id they weren't

[balmy barn]

vrm > blender > unity , dont use the unity converter

[somber sequoia]

it's not going to work in vrchat if you don't have the rig setup in some way

[sudden violet]

follow what Thulen/Kaz are saying for the time being, they most likely understand this better than me

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what this looks like of course, so..

[drifting thunder]

tbh everything works, its just the mouth's default state is somewhat open the entire time even while using lipsync(the mouth moves)

[junior void]

exactly a rig issue

[somber sequoia]

if you follow any standard "basic avatar setup" tutorial, you go to the rig tab in the inspector for the model file and set that up as humanoid. that's where you do this.

[junior void]

you cant fix this unless you get to go into the rig configuration

[still jasper]

I guess I could try. Let me make a backup file just in case.

Can I do that from Unity actually or do I have to do it in Blender?

[somber sequoia]

Blender

[still jasper]

Alrighty

[somber sequoia]

of course this may not work in an ideal way - blendshapes aren't the best things to use if you want to animate something moving between points, they go quite direct, and so that might be weird.

Without knowing what you're doing, this is a guess and maybe not the best one at all 🙂

[drifting thunder]

thats where my current issue starts, i cant seem to get to the rig configuration like in the guides

[still jasper]

Blendshapes are sorta what's needed for a 2d avatar. There's not much of another way to do it, the other way is using a transparent texture plane and applying the mouth textures on and then hit record, but then you could see the transparent plane in VRC since I'm a quest user. Transparency isn't quest compatible.

[junior void]

thats why you shouldnt use unity plugins for vrm conversion

[somber sequoia]

explain exactly what you are doing and what doesn't work about it

[still jasper]

Being direct looks better on them too

[balmy barn]

nope, tilesheets dont require a single blendshape, any viseme detection dont either

[drifting thunder]

so i've received a vrm model, i used the vrm conversion plugin for it, the lipsyncing & emotes work but the default state of the mouth is half open & any emotes that use the mouth & lipsync always start from that state now

[somber sequoia]

I meant about the rig setup

You've already stated the actual problem several times

[drifting thunder]

i havent done any rigging, just imported & converted the vrm then uploaded it to vrchat

not sure if thats what you meant

[somber sequoia]

You said "I can't get to the rig configuration like in the guides"

explain this.

[drifting thunder]

well the people here have been saying to go to the rig config so i checked the guides, i doesnt give me that option

[somber sequoia]

yes. explain exactly what you mean

You are not giving us any idea as to how to help you

Describe in detail the steps you are taking here.

[junior void]

Iirc the vrm doesnt give you import settings like fbx does

[somber sequoia]

aha!

[junior void]

I saw it once so could be wrong but i think the whole rig page is missing

[drifting thunder]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

yeah I've never seen this, I'd never use this method

but this explains things finally. Import the .vrm into blender, export as .fbx into Unity, do things the standard way from there.

[balmy barn]

only tried that thing once and went thats a aweful mess , back to blender

[drifting thunder]

alright i'll try that thank you

[junior void]

Theres a nice blender addon for it

[placid cedar]

I have the avatar view in the right place in unity but when i upload it the view is way to high like this is lookin in a mirror straight.

[placid cedar]

i figured it out yall

i didnt have them low enough in blender so they are floating

[edgy pendant]

okay so i added some clothes to an avi in blender exported it into unity, changed the rig to humanoid but when i change the avatar to the one i edited nothing i added pops up in the hierarchy

[past glacier]

so yesterday i decided to add a dissolve toggle (aka invisible toggle) to my vrc avy, but whe i re opened it today the hair is kinda transparent for some reason and i dont know how to fix it

[past glacier]

issue fixed :2

[edgy pendant]

Does anyone know how to fix this?

[shadow agate]

someone once told me that it's technically possible to create a "grenade" that blocks people in a radius with OSC
is this true? how do I start

[onyx narwhal]

mane im tryna import my roblox avi and in unity it wont let me put in the texture (a tut told me to press a button in unity called extract materials) what am i supposed to do mane? is it because my the models in the armature (the limbs) are seperate on blender or something?

[slow smelt]

On the fbx in unity, (click it in the bottom panel), go to the materials tab in the inspector, and then press extract materials

then you can edit it as a normal material, you will prob want to set the shader on the material to the vrchat toon one too

oh just noticed its grayed out, strange, can you drag it into the scene and then show what it looks like once you click it?

maybe you didn't pack the materials into the fbx or something

in that case youl just have to create a new material and drag it onto the avatar in scene

[onyx narwhal]

like this?

[slow smelt]

hm, its not showing up at all?

[onyx narwhal]

i draged the "gioo" model onto the screen part

and its just showing that movable box thing

[slow smelt]

yeah.. the avatar should be shown there

the scale is really strange too

did you export it with the right settings for unity?

[onyx narwhal]

what are the settings if i may ask

because i used the ones in a video

let me find it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRwnXnQ5kYs

i'll tell you the timestamp

4:10

thats the tut i followed

[late heath]

anybody know why the skirt keeps getting mangled? nothing is autoassigned incorrectly so i have no idea what that's about

[onyx narwhal]

oh my god that model is fucking awesome

i wish i could tell you but im ass at avatar making

✌️ 🥹

[late heath]

thank you :)

[slow smelt]

at work so i can't check atm

[onyx narwhal]

👍

[dark jay]

how do i make it so the hair material is at the bottom where element 4 is without messing up position of textures

[late heath]

i checked the fbx in blender i don't think its blender exporting the bones wrong i think it's unity somehow and i cant figure out how to fix it

[dark jay]

lmk

[stray saffron]

Whats the current optimal way to turn on/off parts of an outfit? I have some gladiator armor pieces and wings for my current avatar that I want to be able to toggle

[edgy pendant]

still having this issue does anyone know how to fix it?

[late heath]

found the fix, bone rotation and position was oriented incorrectly, pressed alt + (r,g,s) in armature edit mode and it fixed the export

[timber wharf]

for multiple small pieces toggleable individually, the most optimal way on pc is uv tile discard, available in poi and probly somewhere else.

[stray saffron]

Ah nice, I assume that just stops it from rendering those faces?

[timber wharf]

ye but still runs through vertex part

so for complex outfits when youre already very poor, just toggle meshes

[stray saffron]

Thats so much easier than screwing around with shape keys and split meshes 🫠

[timber wharf]

shapekey is the worst way aside from making it invisible via alpha. its just thats the only way available on quest

[stray saffron]

No, my goal is to be at "good" performance though

[indigo compass]

UV Tile discard is better if you think you'll generally always have it turned on.
Having it as one or two meshes would be better if you will on average keep it off.

[stray saffron]

Yeah, I think im going to do splits for the major components, and have uv discard for the times where I want to take the small parts off, like gloves etc.

[spark walrus]

Does anyone know how to fix this the head keeps dislocating itself

[olive pelican]

Eyelook position

[spark walrus]

Thx

[night ember]

did you even import the image

[onyx narwhal]

could you perhaps specify a little more uhhh

[night ember]

did you import the image file into unity

[onyx narwhal]

like put it where i placed my model?

the assets folder?

[left gull]

the image the body uses needs to be imported to your assets folder to show up on the embedded material yes

[past glacier]

hello i was wondering if someone might be able to make a certai ntoggle for me

[onyx narwhal]

ty

also is it a problem that when i select my model or something it just shows a box like this

[left gull]

If you're wanting someone to do the work for you go to VRCTraders (Link in #1204490664637890580) and find a commissioner there, if you're needing help making it yourself you'd have to be a bit more specific with the type of toggle ur trying to make

[left gull]

did you check to make sure the model is a 0.0.0 in blender becasue it looks like it was offset before export, also is there any mesh in the scene or is it literally just empty? (open the dropdown called giooo on the left of your screen in the heirarchy and look for bones or a mesh you can select)

[onyx narwhal]

just spine

and i placed my model here

thats a problem right

[left gull]

thats not what i was reffering to i meant the heirarchy

[onyx narwhal]

ohhh

okay

damn

i dont think theres any meshes

[left gull]

yeah, did you join the mesh to the armature properly?

[onyx narwhal]

yeah on blender all the meshes are connected to the correct bones

[night ember]

you dont connect meshes to bones

you weight paint them and then parent the meshs to the armature root

[onyx narwhal]

oh so weight painting is absolutely necessary?

[night ember]

yes?

[onyx narwhal]

oh alright

if i weight paint am i still gonna have that like lego joints effect

where the arms dont stretch and stuff

[somber sequoia]

you don't have to actually paint if you have rigid parts, you can just set the weight to 100%

but without weight, mesh won't move with a bone.

[night ember]

depends on what you are trying to do

[onyx narwhal]

how do i weight paint it

with it like

stretching yk?

so what if i want the joints to be very very stiff like a lego characters limbs

[night ember]

and do what follow the hand completely or rotate to face it but stay at the shoulder

[junior surge]

Anyone know if there is a way to constrict or tighten a ring of vertices all at once? Doing each vertex manually would be so much work

[night ember]

wdym tighten

[junior surge]

Like constrict it. Decrease the diameter of the circle this loop makes

[night ember]

just scale?

[junior surge]

How do I do that?

[night ember]

theres an entire scale tool?

[fiery crow]

left side in edit mode

[junior surge]

Oh wow, thanks.

Literally have maybe 5hrs in blender

[fiery crow]

should look up a tutorial for proportional editing, its pretty useful too

[junior surge]

Don't know why the preportional edit circle is litteraly maxed out at the start lol. Thank you

[night ember]

if you already have a shirt entirely modeled just use sculpt mode with x mirror enabled and use the smooth tool

[fiery crow]

^ yeah u dont need proportional for that

just something im throwing out so u can know about it cause youre beginner, for the future

[junior surge]

Helped me with the sleeves, thank you

[shell river]

is there a blender asset library or something out there with the poses and/or animations for walking/crouching/crawling? I'd like to test for clipping, but I am absolutely terrible at manually posing avatars

[night ember]

just select the armature then select the mesh and enter weight paint mode
then just aggressively rotate each bone checking for clipping

[fiery crow]

probably better to test that in unity anyway, the anims i mean, and make adjustments then overwrite when needed

[shell river]

There will be clipping if i go crazy, i was hoping to test with something like the actual expected range of motion. I am packing all my avatar's addons into a single mesh to toggle with blend shapes, clipping is inevitable if i bend the joints at random

[night ember]

just hit the

[urban current]

is there a way to stop the slowdown i get when dragging around or zooming near my avatar in unity? because i don’t think my scroll wheel gonna make it

[night ember]

use wasd not scroll wheel

[tidal cave]

how do upload to quest

in the recent SDK

[night ember]

you need to download the android build of unity

[sly night]

does anyone know why when i go to toggle this object on it keeps going back and forth between the back and hand?

animations are setup properly and int parameters should be correct

[night ember]

transition Ig

[still jasper]

I'm genuinely going insane over these visemes dude
Can someone just list a bunch of issues that cause visemes not to work so I can look into them and hopefully fix mine because this is ridiculous

[night ember]

wdym "not work"

[still jasper]

In one of the methods I tried to get them to work, they looked like they animated properly when I tested them in Unity, but absolutely nothing happens in VRC.. they don't move or respond the way they should.

They stay idle.

[night ember]

wdym animated

how did you do the visemes
are they blendshapes or what

[still jasper]

Yeah blendshapes

I have a lpoly 2d model

The visemes are planes that are suppose to come out of the head

[night ember]

and how did you set it up

just the default avatar descriptor setting or what

[still jasper]

Viseme parameter only

[night ember]

is the animator even set up correctly

[still jasper]

Though neither are working rn, I tried both

I must've made an error when I first started but I can't rewind to find it because it was so long ago it must've been made

[still jasper]

I dunno, it's my first time making an avatar. Tell me what an incorrect animator would look like

Or at least what a correct animator should look like

[night ember]

thats like

incredibly vague

cause you can set it up however you want

there is no "correct animator"

[still jasper]

..You asked me if it was set up "correctly"

[night ember]

and?

did you actually set up how you did it where it would actually work?

[still jasper]

I don't know. I was probably gonna just delete all the animations and controller and just start from scratch in case that was the issue. I don't wanna do that, but I might have to

[night ember]

just because you previewed animations in unity doesnt mean the animator will actually yknow do anything with them

[still jasper]

Hmm gotcha.

[night ember]

like did you actually set up transitions with the conditions with the animations actually there

[still jasper]

It's like VRC won't even register them as Visemes tho, they won't move at all. I labeled the parameter layer "Viseme" like I was supposed to and paired them all with the correct numbers. Idk what I did wrong

[still jasper]

Yeah, I made sure they were all paired with the animations I made with the blendshapes and they all have transitions. I even tried two different transition methods for parameter visemes and it still didn't work

[night ember]

itd be actually helpful if you sent images

[night ember]

there is no "register as visemes"

all vrchat does is change the value of a parameter

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters

[still jasper]

I thiiinnnkkk I found the issue actually.. might be in blender. Let me try that first

[night ember]

what would blender have to do with it

[wet pier]

how fucked am i

the mmd model came like this btw

[somber sequoia]

that's a lot of material slots.

[wet pier]

well this is gonna be a bit

oh well

[somber sequoia]

it could be because all those parts are separated and can just be joined (in Blender or similar)

[wet pier]

is there anyway to merge all the materials into one?

it seems like it only needs one texture

[night ember]

thats a blender thing

[wet pier]

yeah ik

[somber sequoia]

Sure, assign all the various parts a single material in blender.

(and merge those parts)

[night ember]

or just click the -

[somber sequoia]

yeah you could do that, assuming the material you want assigned is the top one

or at least, above the one you are removing

[late rover]

Does anyone have experience with texturing Mayus? I'm super stuck on how to go about doing it on Blender

[crimson heath]

Need help from someone familiar with the PCSS/NGSS system for liltoon. I'm using a recent version of liltoon and pcss, ive also imported next gen soft shadows and I am receiving this error. Previously, with an older version of liltoon I would not have this error. Additionally, the nHaruka thing on top doesn't pop up so I can't add PCSS to the avatar. Any help or ideas would be great, I've already tried reimporting both files, however the error remains.

[glass solar]

for some reason unity wont let me upload the avatar due to console errors

some say the prefabs say they still contain missing scripts but I removed them

[somber meadow]

The errors don’t react dynamically. You’ll need to clear the console and attempt to upload again

[glass solar]

they keep coming back

[somber meadow]

Then those objects still exist

Use the hierarchy search

[valid prawn]

can someone help me with this!! im not sure how to fix the shading

[somber sequoia]

could try unlocking the shader, see if those errors clear up

[slender venture]

Getting this parameter not defined error and not sure how to rectify it.

[somber meadow]

You're looking at the wrong parameter asset

[slender venture]

Aha I see. tyvm

[valid prawn]

tried to unlock and the same error is occurring

[somber meadow]

unlock the shader and make sure your Poiyomi is up to date

[somber sequoia]

there's a whole help section in the poiyomi discord too

[valid prawn]

yeah everything is up to date, ill try the other discord thank you!

[somber sequoia]

right but the shader used in that material may not be up to date, those do look like valid parameter names

[smoky flame]

Hey yeall. Im having problems rigging my inverted eye ball. the pupil keeps clipping when it rotates on the eye bone

Is there another way I can rig the pupil that will transfer into VR chat seamlessly?

I've never done this before

[glad drift]

can someone help me, im trying to install CATS to my Blender but this keeps showing up

it also says this when i try to turn it on

[fiery crow]

not compatible

you have to use the unofficial cats plugin

[glad drift]

where do i find that?

[fiery crow]

https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial-

[glad drift]

🙏

i have blender 4.5, do i need a later version of it?

Im trying to make a MMD model into an avatar (With owner support) and i was thinking if there will be any problems in the future due to my version

[smoky flame]

Be careful, CATS royally effed up my skeleton...

[glad drift]

its all i got, im to new gen at this stuff to try anything else 💔

I just sit down and watch videos of people making avis without any knowledge just because 🥀

[smoky flame]

me too. me too 😭

I was trying to make the face keys.. put it onn the back burner when I saw CATS destroyed my work for a sec

[glad drift]

is this bad?

when i install cats on blender this showed up, im worried its gonna screw me over in the future

omg there is so much

I downloaded that and some other MMD thing and its saying somthing bad about that mmd thing i downloaded

its called blender_mmd_tools

[fiery crow]

the blender youre using, 4.5 is a more recent one

[glad drift]

do i need an older one?

and if so, which version?

[somber meadow]

never use "Fix Model" on non vroid/mmd models

[fiery crow]

for that mmd plugin, im not too sure which version

im not at all familar with it

[glad drift]

do you have a recomened one i could use, i could just delete the one im using rn

[fiery crow]

if you look at where you got the mmd tools from, it should specify the verision its made for

but for that id assume something before 3.6 LTS, maybe 2.9 LTS

or even 2.7 LTS, i cant confidently really say

actually if its this same one i came across

then i think you could try this version of the plugin, if not then that version of blender

https://extensions.blender.org/add-ons/mmd-tools/

[glad drift]

ok 🙏

[fiery crow]

this is what youre trying to use?

[glad drift]

i was using this, idk what it is, some youtube video told me to use it

[fiery crow]

https://github.com/MMD-Blender/blender_mmd_tools

maybe you possibly got the wrong download?

[glad drift]

should i get the one taht says main?

[fiery crow]

correct

[glad drift]

Do i extract the zip or keep it a zip

I have the MMD thing downloaded and the Cats thing downloaded, but the model still wont spawn when i try to import it

It keeps saying error traceback

[fiery crow]

you uninstalled the previous cats plugin from before?

[glad drift]

Yes

[fiery crow]

try closing and reopening maybe? sometimes plugins dont all work unless theres a program restart

[glad drift]

its still saying the same error 💔

[fiery crow]

youre cooked 🥀

[glad drift]

Is it ok if i send you the Model to see if it might be somthing with that?

[fiery crow]

im not currently on my pc, i dont have blender on my laptop im using at all

😭

[glad drift]

I mean like the link to where i got the model

its a rar file if that help, idk what that means

[inland gyro]

i have an asset on my avatar which creates a smaller version of another avatar on my head. it makes another animator in the process to animate the extra avatar.
when viewed on PC, it shows all the animators correctly, but on android, the second avatar T-Poses since android hides any animators besides the first by default.
therefore, is there a way i can hide the extra avatar if the animator isn't active? my avatar is otherwise medium rank!!

[smoky flame]

I read on the official CAts discord that you just ignore that

[ornate stump]

If animator isn't active it will show however it is when you build it in unity. So you have to just disable it in unity.

[night ember]

Why not just like not have it on the android avatar to begin with

[glossy quarry]

How do I install modular avatar?

[night ember]

You just import the package?

[glossy quarry]

But what is the website?

[ornate stump]

You usually can search google for it.

[glossy quarry]

What plugin do you recommend to get started in the world of creating avatars?

[junior void]

plugin for?

[glossy quarry]

Manage Packages Sorry

[junior void]

so for unity then

[glossy quarry]

yeah

[ornate stump]

You better try without any plugin first. To appreciate problem the plugin is solving rather than just blindly add every thing people tell you to and ended up not needing it.

[glossy quarry]

And what would upload the avatar and what do I do?

[junior void]

what

[ornate stump]

That's the avatar sdk that would come with the project when you created via vcc.

[sudden violet]

This. Adding plugins without knowing how the program works first will also make it more difficult to troubleshoot down the line, as you won't know what's "normal", and what's added from plugins.

Not to mention that plugins themselfs can break at times and create even more problems to troubleshoot.

[toxic pumice]

Anyone familiar with VRCFury here? I need to add a menu to an avatars base radial menu so like Radial Menu -> [Menu point i add] -> [all my stuff]

I know I can change the menu point icon using an icon override, but how would I go about making the menu point trigger an avatar parameter

Like in non VRCFury you can go add a submenu point and have it trigger a parameter when opened

[junior void]

cant you add an action to it and set that action to "drive global parameter"?

[toxic pumice]

there is 0 animation controllers in this

purely OSC based menu to communicate with an external app

and i need to know when the root menu opens as a "hello" signal in my app and start shoving over the initial sync / resync

In non-modular VRChat i would just add a parameter like menu_open to the submenu where all my things are in

but I'm trying to make this a prefab so it needs to be VRCFury, another kicker is that every single menu point under the main menu is also modules, so the only "real" normal vrchat menu components are 2 layers deep, way too late for me to add the menu sync parameter normally

ooh nvm I had an idea on how to do it

[junior void]

you were given a reply more than once. do you ever check them?

[cinder mortar]

I was actually never given a reply. Maybe some sort of glitch happened? You answered me once, and I address that in the message, but it’s a different issue. but every time I’ve sent this specific thing in this it’s gone unanswered

[sudden violet]

try removing allign position

[cinder mortar]

I will try that

[junior void]

i told you its because of the hip bone being upside down

this can easily be fixed in blender

if weights are whack, they can also be fixed in blender, same with shape keys

[cinder mortar]

What, by rotating the bone?

Will that not mess it up some other way?

[junior void]

no. import the üants to blender and the avatar

youll see the hip bone of the pants is pointing up

the ones of the avi pointing down

[cinder mortar]

I might’ve not been clear enough that that’s what I meant lol

[junior void]

vrcfury tries to align the rotation rn

which means the pants hip flip bc the avi hip is upright

[cinder mortar]

So will rotating the bone in blender just solve it?

[junior void]

yes because then theres nothing the wrong way anymore

[cinder mortar]

I thought that would mess up the rigging somehow. Alright, thank you

[junior void]

it only would if you were to move the hip bone

just flipping it is fine

[sudden violet]

wouldn't have guessed the bone was upside-down, makes sense.

[cinder mortar]

Am I just doing a complete 180 for it?

[junior void]

the rex's hip used to be upside down. so the asset is old, made before the base bone was fixed

[cinder mortar]

I guess apparently it’s a thing with the avatar model lol

[junior void]

yes, 180

[cinder mortar]

Alright, thank you.

[junior void]

just please, next time, dont just post the same thing like a copy paste maniac - engage, reply and ask those who answered you questions, tell them your concerns, let us know why youre hesitant. Just reposting looks so incredibly ignorant, I doubt you want to be perceived that way

[frosty oyster]

#avatar-quest message

Need help with an avi, posted the stuff in Avatar Quest tho and idk if resending it again here would be cluttering chats or not ;-;

[junior void]

Sounds like a material swap. Could that be?

[frosty oyster]

Nope! i checked its doing taking the same materials its supposed to have but changes the opacity and color

i posted a screen recording of what happens in the channel

it only changes the color and opacity

which is wierd.. i thought it was a swap at first too but u can see me clicking "select material" and it literally shows me the one its supposed to be using
same folder and everything so im at a dead end rn on how to fix this issue..

[junior void]

i see

things jumping in play mode only really makes me think its animated

[frosty oyster]

hmm

[junior void]

could there be a color change animation

[frosty oyster]

i could see it might be a hue one

lemme check rq

[junior void]

just yeet the fx for a test

[frosty oyster]

its js wierd cuz i didnt set up any hue sliders in the menus

[junior void]

yea sometimes shit happens by accident

[frosty oyster]

hmm ill try but if its not that i might actually have no clue whats happening

;-;

[junior void]

id say vertex colors but it would show out of play too

[frosty oyster]

yeah..

heres the thing tho

the same model

original files

work fine

it does NOT do it tho that

ONLY to the edited one

in the same project

[junior void]

that does sound like vertex colors xD

[frosty oyster]

and whats wierder is, in this instance all stuff shown was in a new project tho

i got it

omg it was the hue stuff

in the fx

😭

[junior void]

aha

[balmy barn]

dont think the new quest shader care about vertex colors (not tested)

[frosty oyster]

tyyy i wouldve never guessed that

:D

[junior void]

^_^

[frosty oyster]

^w^

[balmy barn]

troubleshooting usually remove stuff until it stop doing it

[frosty oyster]

i usually do so but i didnt know what to remove without basically redoing the whole avis fx and set up from scratch again qwp

[foggy tiger]

I added the physbones to the whiskers, but the ones on the face are bugged out. In unity play mode the whiskers work as intended, but they droop in game

[junior void]

maybe you added gravity?

[foggy tiger]

I copied the official physbones from the avatar i took the whiskers off and the didn have gravity

could it be collisions?

[junior void]

only if the physbones are set to collide. have you looked if its really the bones bending the whiskers or if the bones are straight as should be but the mesh only is crooked

[foggy tiger]

Well like I said in unity play mode they work as intended and the settings for it don't have gravity

[junior void]

look at the radius

[foggy tiger]

0.00002

What about it?

[junior void]

thats some billion

[foggy tiger]

That's 0.00002

[balmy barn]

thats very small so scaling bonkers

[foggy tiger]

Gotcha

I'll copy the one from the ears then

[balmy barn]

they arent assigned to jaw by chance , would noticed it in unity tho ( hair assigned to it make it vibrate )

[foggy tiger]

Nope, I attached them to the head bone in blender

[balmy barn]

not there, rig setup

[foggy tiger]

What?

[junior void]

import settings humanoid rig setup in unity

[foggy tiger]

It's whatever is default for nardo import settings

[junior void]

when you replace the fbx, that can change

[junior void]

rig -> configure

[junior void]

go to head

[foggy tiger]

yea

[junior void]

thats what he meant and the answer is no

[foggy tiger]

Gotcha

Yeah I've never even seen this part of unity b4

But yeah in play mode the physbones work normla

I'll try uploading with different radiuw

[junior void]

interesting

did you try visemes in play mode?

[foggy tiger]

No

I just was using gogo loco and stuff

Yeah the whiskers don't move with my face

But that's bc it's not weighted to the snout I dont think

[junior void]

hmmm

we can try removing the physbones or set collision to false to prove whether it is colliding with something else or not

[foggy tiger]

I'll try that after I test the radius thing rq

Yeah it wasn't radius

The eyebrow whiskers are fine tho which makes no sense

It's just the face ones

[junior void]

Definitely a weird issue but all we can do at this point is remove stuff until it stops

[foggy tiger]

Turning off collision fixed it :(

[junior void]

aha

[foggy tiger]

Maybe turn off self collisions?

I mean I won't be able to touch my own whiskers but whatever

[junior void]

up to you

i personally would be interested in what its colliding with

[foggy tiger]

Yeah same but I gotta go to work now, so I can post more when I get back

[junior void]

sure

[cosmic igloo]

does anyone know how to add a custom run toggle with Gogoloco?

[somber sequoia]

the gogo loco docs describe how to change any of the animations it provides

[cosmic igloo]

does it show how to make it a toggle? i've never messed with animations before

[somber sequoia]

no, it shows how to swap the animations for another one. Making toggles is very well documented in other places and tutorial videos

[ornate stump]

I read the question is toggle for switching gogoloco animations.

[somber sequoia]

yeah

now I do - I was reading it as swapping out the animation for the existing run thingy. I haven't used gogo in quite a while so I forget what's a toggle and what's not

[cosmic igloo]

Yeah i'm trying to make a toggle to swap the default run to a different one with a toggle but all the tutorials I find are all outdated or not for Gogo menus

[somber sequoia]

ah ok. Well if you look in the gogo docs you can find where that animation happens, you'd just want to duplicate the existing animation state and use your toggle variable in the transitions to pick which one of those gets used

[azure tapir]

Anyone that knows blender. I want to sculpt the avatar's body without scultping the eyes. The avatar is in one piece. How do I protect or seperate the eyes and later place them back after I am done sulpting the face and body?

[somber sequoia]

You can either hide them or split them - I personally just split them into a separate object.

(edit mode, select faces, hit 'p' to separate selected)

[sour sparrow]

im not home so I cant test anything, but would it be possible for a particle to have a property that let's it collide with other particles? im trying to make a beam clash system for my dragon ball avatars where if two of my avatars do a beam style attack, the beams will stop when they touch each other

[somber sequoia]

you can have particles collide with objects but I'm not sure about other particles, that's an interesting question.

[muted wharf]

does anyone know how to import .VRM models into Unity? i need to color protogen textures

[balmy barn]

vrm > blender > unity, vrm converter in unity leaves you with a very unoptimzied model

[muted wharf]

i just wanna use it for vseeface

nothing else

[somber sequoia]

Yes - don't, do the blender path 🙂

[muted wharf]

maybe vrchat but im not trusted

[muted wharf]

you know how to?

[somber sequoia]

Thulen just said

[balmy barn]

#avatar-general message << vrm - blender - unity route

[somber sequoia]

ah perfect

[balmy barn]

vrchat support camera tracking dont need other stuff unless they add something

(pretty basic i guess in vrchat)

me bumbling around in vrchat with a phone camera

[muted wharf]

but. i need to recolor the textures and how will i do that. with unity?

[balmy barn]

gimp/paint/paintshop/photoshop whatever can do layers is handy

[muted wharf]

but how will i get the textures if theres only a vrm model

[somber sequoia]

are there no image files provided?

[muted wharf]

nope

[sour sparrow]

do you suppose I can have an invisible plane on both avatars too and when particles are detected on each then they would clash?

[muted wharf]

;-;

[balmy barn]

they are in the model , blender spits out a atlas you can recolor with that thing up there i linked

[rough crow]

i want to add a face to my avatar, but it has both black (outlines and pupil) and white (inside of eyes) on the texture (i have to make it a particle, dont know why but i have to).

if i do Multiply, the inside of the eyes and mouth go transparent. if i do additive, the outline of the eyes, mouth, and pupil goes transparent. is there a way to make it so that i can have none of those transparent?

[somber sequoia]

try to extract them when you get it into blender

[cosmic igloo]

New problem, does anyone know why the new parameter I created isn't popping up? (even after restarting)

[muted wharf]

how will i import it into blender tho?

[somber sequoia]

did you not look at the link Thulen provided?

[muted wharf]

what link?

[somber sequoia]

probably that could work

[muted wharf]

in gen?

[sour sparrow]

alright thank you, when I get back home ima see what I can do.

[somber sequoia]

Yes, there's a plugin for blender used to import .vrm files

[muted wharf]

called?

[somber sequoia]

literally said in Thulen's message.

[balmy barn]

vrm tend to make a messy atlas, but its still better then several materials ( can be shuffled around after anyway )

then just recolor that instead of 10-40 texures , its all there

[muted wharf]

so all i need is the img and then yeah?

but how will i make it into a vrm again?

unity?

[somber sequoia]

do you want a vrm?

[muted wharf]

do it need unity

yeah

[somber sequoia]

that's not a vrchat thing, so...

[muted wharf]

i need it for vseeface tho

[balmy barn]

bam its vrm , works with any fbx and vrchat physbones converted to vrm

[somber sequoia]

ah, no idea and kinda off-topic around here so this may not be the best place to ask

[muted wharf]

thanks

[balmy barn]

its 1.0 tho, most things still using 0.0

[muted wharf]

like the NKD Protogen VRM?

[balmy barn]

no clue

https://vroid.pixiv.help/hc/en-us/articles/38903414455449-How-to-install-the-XWear-Packager vroid offically support vcc / vrchat physbone convertion and stuff

[muted wharf]

i will get blender running

thanks alot

[somber sequoia]

oh neat, that's cool

[balmy barn]

image skirt that actually collides after converting it to vrm

vrchat physbone goes nope

[muted wharf]

i think my 115 gb win 11 with a bad gpu is starting to get hot

and now blender wont open

perfect

just perfect

now its just a black screen

and back to nothing

and now it works

how do i open a vrm model for it

how do i put the plugin into blender?

[somber sequoia]

install the plugin we mentioned then file -> import -> .vrm

blender docs cover add-ons/plugins: https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/editors/preferences/addons.html

[muted wharf]

how am i going to put it in tho

into blender

[somber sequoia]

?

[muted wharf]

theres updater

init

and then

globs

[rough crow]

is someone willing to help? :3

[ornate stump]

If you're using particle shader that means you had something seriously incorrect. You should also screenshot the problem you see originally.

[rough crow]

alrighty!

first image is the original.
second image is additive.
third image is multiply.

the issue is that im wanting all of the colors to stay, but i cant figure out how to keep them without the particle shaders getting rid of them.

[ornate stump]

Is this supposed to be uploaded for Android?

[rough crow]

mhm, both windows and android.

[ornate stump]

For Android, you won't be able to achieve transparency. Otherwise, you have to actually knife the mesh to the shape so it cut the transparent part out.

[rough crow]

ahhhh.

i believe i can find a work around, i could recolor the black to a darker gray so that it doesnt get eradicated from the additive shader.

thanks for your help though!

[ornate stump]

This would make it only semi-transparent.

[rough crow]

ohhh.....

hmmm.

[muted wharf]

guys

i installed the plugin for blender but how do i put the vrm into blender

@balmy barn

i installed the plugin for blender but how do i put the vrm into blender

[left gull]

theres likely several videos on youtube that could explain that (its kinda rude to just @ people that arent actively assisting you )

[azure tapir]

ANd how you put them back into place once I am done doing what I need to do?

[tidal void]

What causes that the right hand is prioritized over the left when making face gestures? Left hand gestures do not work unless the right hand isn't on idle

[balmy barn]

lower layer have priority

[somber star]

When creating a VRChat full body model, do I need to completely remove the private parts to make it safe for work, or is censoring the texture enough?

[somber sequoia]

Basic blender stuff - select both objects, ctrl-j to join.

[azure tapir]

Witht he body as the last to select right?

[somber sequoia]

Yep, last one is the target.

[foggy tiger]

I'm home from work now if ur down to try and help me figure this out.

[muted wharf]

hey guys. how do i import a protogen VRM into blender with the cats plugin

hello?

[muted wharf]

if you censor the img / texture you can still see the shape. so removing it is better

ok

i got the vrm flies

files

[rigid hemlock]

hello, does Lip Sync Visemes blendshapes add on to toggled expression blendshapes or overwrite them?

[topaz lantern]

You can import a VRM into blender by using the cats plugin alongside the VRM add-on. Just enable both, then drag your VRM in and cats will help with cleanup/conversion for editing

[muted wharf]

this is what im working with

please send help

(joking)

[topaz lantern]

LMAO

[azure tapir]

In sculpt and object mod it looks fine but in edit mode... it breaks. WHat just happened?

XD

I am so confused. Did I mess up the key shapes?

When I select body thicker it shows my modifications

I click below that in the key shapes and bam. BROKEN

[azure tapir]

LMAO!!!

XD

Okay I see what broke. I wasn't on the basis shape key when I was scultping...

OOPS

[junior void]

generally a better idea to make an extra shape key and sculpt on it. if you end up not liking it, you can then always start from scratch and later apply it to basis if you really want

[tame knoll]

In blender, when I apply a viseme to my mesh it messes up the shadow. Any fix for this?

[sour sparrow]

alright im home...

[urban current]

so in unity is there a way to stop the slowdown you get when dragging or zooming near the avatar?

[somber sequoia]

looks completely reasonable

[muted wharf]

how do i make the face glow?

[somber sequoia]

in Unity, use a shader that has emissions. Make a mask where white = where you want to emit and black = where you don't want to emit.

[muted wharf]

will it save to the VRM?

[somber sequoia]

So I'm going to assume you're asking questions about vrchat in a vrchat server.

[muted wharf]

. im using it for VSEEFACE

[somber sequoia]

ok then don't ask me

[muted wharf]

vseeface uses VRM models

this is the only help i have here

oh ok.

ill just leave then ;-;

[somber sequoia]

I'm not saying leave, I'm saying don't ask me because I have no idea about that

I'm sure a lot of the channels will still be useful for you

just don't expect help with non-vrchat things in a vrchat-specific channel

[edgy pendant]

Still can’t figure this out. Does anyone know how to fix it?

[somber sequoia]

change the avatar?

not sure why you'd try to change that field

[edgy pendant]

Yes like the prefab

[somber sequoia]

is the prefab still packed?

[edgy pendant]

After I added the prefab from blender I changed the rig to humanoid

[somber sequoia]

what does "added the prefab from blender" mean - you mean you saved the .fbx into the unity project?

[edgy pendant]

Yes

[somber sequoia]

Good, drag that into the hierarchy in your scene.

[edgy pendant]

When I just drag it into the hierarchy the shaders and everything is off. Hold on I’m opening up unity I’ll show you what I mean

[somber sequoia]

yes, you have to set up that stuff

Are you trying to update an existing avatar in your scene?

[edgy pendant]

Yes

[somber sequoia]

Okay then again, is the avatar in the scene unpacked?

[edgy pendant]

im not sure what you mean by that. i just changed the "avatar" to the one i edited

[somber sequoia]

don't touch that.

In the hierarchy, is the root object of your avatar colored blue or white

[edgy pendant]

its blue

[somber sequoia]

Ok good - then you should be able to simply overwrite the .fbx file itself, and it'll be updated.

Changing the animator component won't do what you want here.

[fiery tiger]

Heya! I'm working on adding face tracking to my avatar. A friend of mine mentioned that when making the blendshapes, the actual result will never hit the full expression so to overexaderate it. Is that true?

[somber sequoia]

depends on how your particular face tracking thingy is calibrated for your particular face, but probably yes

[junior void]

Depends also on hardware, how well it picks up ft

[somber sequoia]

I find that mine way over-exaggerates my open mouth 🙂

[edgy pendant]

not entirely sure how to do that. In the past, I would just change the prefab, and all the assets would be there. how would i overwrite it?

[somber sequoia]

(but this is what calibraton is for)

[somber sequoia]

you literally overwrite the file when going file -> export in blender

[edgy pendant]

oh yeah i did that. i exported it with .fbx. Im just trying to figure out how to get all the new assets i added to pop up in hierarchy. Because when i just drag the prefab in all the shaders are off and none of the original toggles are gone

[somber sequoia]

I do this all the time, I simply overwrite the file and Unity updates it immediately.

dragging in a new copy is just that, a new copy with the defaults.

I wasn't sure what you were doing when I mentioned that before

[edgy pendant]

by overwrite do you mean exporting it with .fbx? im sorry im confused😭

[somber sequoia]

yes, I export from blender to the same filename as previous - i.e. overwriting the file

[junior void]

Export the fbx from blender and point it to the place where your fbx in the avatar assets is

Dont save it, drag it in, do it in one step

[somber sequoia]

This doesn't work if you've unpacked your avatar in the scene, and possibly you can break it if you have swapped avatars in that Animator component (don't touch this)

[edgy pendant]

Okay im going to try again