avatar-help

[frail badger]

...kinda?

nvm i reapplied t pose and it just Works now

[teal steppe]

i would fix that up

[frail badger]

ok why is there schmutz in the middle

it disappears when i zoom in but its there at any moderate distance

nvm i figured it out W me

[night ember]

thats not going to work how you think it will

[sharp nebula]

Ok has any1 come across an issue where u can see your eyes' bones move in vr. its kinda hard to explain but its this weired issue where the eyes on your avatar are visible in first person and it obstructs vision

[steel hatch]

does anyone know why this happens, despite me merging the armature?, it just floats and bugs back n forth for context

[ornate stump]

Everything attached to head bone gets scaled to zero when in first person view to not obtruct view by default.
If you still can see it then possibly:

1. Eye bones by isn't children of head bone.
2. Head bone isn't recognized as head bone.
3. Eye bone somehow has headchop component.
4. Is generic rig.

[ornate stump]

Does it actually move with something?

[steel hatch]

i fixed it, it just didnt use modular avatar

[steel hatch]

but damn, thank you for being here again🫂

[sudden violet]

Is there a way to not scale something to 0 when it is attached to your head bone? Say you want to grab your hat with your hand, and make it visible in your hand for yourself once grabbed

[ornate stump]

Head chop component.

[frail badger]

so why would it allow me to upload to android if i cant use it on android

[halcyon kayak]

• made some custom animations, used AV3 Manager to swap out as necessary
• animations aren't applying as expected, can't test in play mode (changing parameters like VelocityX doesn't seem to work)
• part of the armature gets way separated from rest of model upon uploading...

[ornate stump]

What do you mean you can't use it on android?

[frail badger]

i hopped on and tried to put it on and it doesnt let me

[ornate stump]

What "doesn't let you" mean?

[frail badger]

it previews as an error model and says "purchase" instead of apply or whatever its supposed to say idr off the top of my head

[ornate stump]

Is it marked as "Security check failed" somewhere?

[fiery crow]

those dont prevent you

[halcyon kayak]

to be fair it did give you about 500 errors and you uploaded anyways xD

[frail badger]

because it LET ME :(

[frail badger]

not that i see

lemme re-open unity and double check

[fiery crow]

just relaunch your vrc quest app, if ure trying to test it

[ornate stump]

Security check failed is reported in game and in the avatar page in website.

[frail badger]

oh look at that it did

huh, how do i fix that

oh lmao? i had rotation constraints on the thing failed to warn me about, it seems

[ornate stump]

You seems to be using an old sdk. So update it.

[sudden violet]

Sweet, thanks!

[frail badger]

i use a slightly outdated version for other bug-related reasons

but i got it to work so no worries

[ornate stump]

vrc constraint is permitted. Unity constraint isn't.

[halcyon kayak]

importing animations adds a whole lot of parameters and they're sending part of my arrmature into outer space... is there some info i'm missing about importing / converting animations?

if the answer is "sit there and delete everything that's not relevant," it's gonna take a while 😅

[ornate stump]

Set "Apply Scalings" in exporting to "FBX All".

[halcyon kayak]

i believe i did, but i'll try once again

[frail badger]

oh new issue

can you not have 2 copies of the same avatar, one for PC one for quest, and upload them both to the same "spot" so one is android-compatible and the other is "normal"?

[halcyon kayak]

you can upload one to PC, rename it in Unity, then upload that one to Quest?

[frail badger]

oh they have to have the exact same name?

[ornate stump]

If you want to upload as different avatars then you have to detach blueprint ID in pipeline manager component.

[frail badger]

no i want to upload them as the same avatar

[ornate stump]

Then you have to attach blueprint ID to be the same for both version.

[frail badger]

how do i. do that

[ornate stump]

Upload one first, check blueprint ID from content manager, copy then attach to another avatar and upload.

[halcyon kayak]

double-checked my FBX export and the issue persists

i'm fairly positive i've done something wrong in Unity in regards to applying my animations

[frail badger]

i have the ID copied, i don't see where i put it in to make sure it's the same

[ornate stump]

So then you shouldn't extract the animation from the model file when in unity.

[ornate stump]

In pipeline manager component.

[frail badger]

ohhhh thank you bless

[halcyon kayak]

oh, i think i see an issue now. the bones i'm animating mostly are not in the "humanoid" part of the armature (mostly un-weighted "dummy" armature, save for the skull weighted to head bone). something about extracting the animation is erasing the data from these extra bones that i mostly animated on. i'll look more into another way to preserve all animation data... X_X thank you

the way i learned to do it was just by duplicating the animations to force read-only off

i didn't realize it was kind of destructive... WEIRD!!

[river python]

Uhh, so I'm trying to upload a pcvr/quest version of an optiimized avatar. But I'm getting this

Why?

[balmy barn]

whats the stats on that thing first thing id check, quest requirements much lower then pc and using a old sdk ? wont warn you if its above limits

[austere bay]

my avatars looking off to her left for some reason, anyone know how i can fix this? :) she's fine in blender and she was fine when i imported her yesterday, all I've done so far is make materials, toggles and I've set up the avatar descriptor (as you can see in the video) but they're not on preview and you can see when I toggle preview for look ahead she looks ahead 🤷‍♀️

doesn't matter if I remove the transforms, they're still looking left :(

[marsh gust]

i want to learn how to create a avatar,but every time i see a tutorial,its totally diferent

or the tutorial its pretty old

[night ember]

avatar making isnt just a singular tutorial

you need to know how to use blender if you want to make a model
you need to know how to use unity if you want to upload it

[marsh gust]

im just want to know to use vroid and them usie blender

[frail badger]

i have an animation i made for an avatar being triggered by a contact. in the debugger, the boolean is changing states properly, and in av3 emulator, the animation works. However when trying to put everything together, the animation doesn't happen

[frosty summit]

Is it possible to record a texture change for an animation? I know you can material swap, but what about texture swapping?
(with/without vrcfury)

[balmy barn]

no

[frosty summit]

damn

requires uploading it as a seperate avatar i guess x_x

makes sense though

[somber meadow]

What’s your issue with material swaps?

They don’t cause performance issues as all you’re doing is swapping an existing material slot with another material

[frosty summit]

I don't have a material, just a texture (png)
not sure I'm even saying this right, but yes it's just a png that works when i change the material's texture using the png
maybe I should make a COPY of the material that uses the png I want and make it so it changes to that material?
is that gonna even work?

[vernal yacht]

ill be willing to pay anyone 5$ if they can help me with a unity problem

over call'

[lilac musk]

Yes, that is the normal way people do it

[lilac musk]

Usually not a very good idea to talk about money here. You're going to get a lot of DMS trying to scam you. However, most people here are willing to help. You just need to show us what is going wrong and we then can explain to you how to proceed

[vernal yacht]

i usally have dms from people idk turned off i only have them on for help and it would be better explained over a call , plus i dont really like texting

[hazy quest]

If you're using Poiyomi, I think you can just use decals?

And animate its alpha value.

[frail badger]

anyone know why visemes wouldnt be working despite being plugged into the avatar descriptor correctly

[balmy barn]

missing one viseme , wrong mesh

[frail badger]

neither seems to be the case?

[balmy barn]

if you also animating any of the visemes somewhere in your controllers it doesnt like that

[frail badger]

ITS THE HEAD RESET thank u bless

[mystic schooner]

Is there a way to do something like GoGoLoco's boost without having to jump?

[versed marsh]

might be a stupid question but how do i merge armatures with a clothing piece that is already rigged and sculpted to it? (in blender)

[olive pelican]

Apply all transforms so that the poses are the same, apply the amrature modifier to the clothes, add a new armature modifier to the main rig.

As long as all the bones are named the EXACT same, this will work

If there's ANY bones wrong, poof, asplode.

[versed marsh]

Yeah i think something may have went wrong with the bonnes

because i tried doing it earlier and my ears like glued to my boots and stretched down my enntire body

[olive pelican]

explbonesions?

Top kek, make sure both armatures are as close to identical as possible

check the names and stuff

[grim condor]

I'm getting these errors in the attached image, however these bones are all mapped (other image).
I've tried reimporting and reconfiguring the rig but I've had no luck. Any Ideas for common causes here?

[versed marsh]

okay so how do i do the transforms?

i just checked the bones and they seem the same names

[olive pelican]

Ctrl A, apply all transforms to the bones AND THEN the mesh

IIRC

I'm at my work desk like 30 miles away from my art rig so I'm guessing from heuristic memory

[versed marsh]

Actually wait i think i ddid it

I did this and clicked apply transforms

it seems fine in pose mode

[olive pelican]

Oh Lord CATS

[versed marsh]

is that bad?

[olive pelican]

Bo

,*no

It's just...

[versed marsh]

oh okay!

[olive pelican]

CATS is a chainsaw.

[versed marsh]

but theres no data symbol

is that an issue?

😭

[olive pelican]

Not a clue, 😐

[versed marsh]

it still has all the vertex groups

[balmy barn]

if they are the same name it shouldnt have .001 whatevers tho

[versed marsh]

it did it again

wtf

the ears get pulled down to the feet

[balmy barn]

base of ears probably not weightpainted to anything or not connected bones, just move head and if they that dont follow it need weightpaint

[versed marsh]

i just checked in blender annd they are weightpainted

[balmy barn]

posemode and move head

[versed marsh]

it moves with it

i think theres something wrong with the fbx

[ivory cove]

Is anyone else having this issue, where any avatar I been trying to upload for quest, I just get security check errors and it is unusable. I can upload the PC just fine but then if I try Quest it breaks and becomes unusable from checks?

[balmy barn]

whats the stats on this quest avatar

windows,android,ios but i dont make very poor avatars

[tacit storm]

So umm, I did a quick mesh edit to this avatar (I added a few verts and faces) and the avatar did this.. stickfigure thing.
https://i.imgur.com/QfzjqHg.png

aw man

discord won't let me send images directly so it has be though imgur (will just stay on the first part)

[feral salmon]

I have an avatar in unity and I can't seem to find the viewpoint, can someone help?

[tough pivot]

anyone know any known avi creators that do conversions and uploads

[night mortar]

goodnight gentelmens

I have a problem

[tough pivot]

?

[night mortar]

I cant upload my avatar because of this error

can someone help me resolve this ?

[somber meadow]

screenshot the other errors, not the details of one

[night mortar]

like this ?

this is what I have

(sorry I am new to this)

[somber meadow]

Whiskers 5 (5) has a missing script, you probably have a script needed for the avatar not imported

you can also just remove the script entirely

[night mortar]

ok will try

I will keep you updated

[night mortar]

okay where is the script

[somber meadow]

Whiskers 5 (5)
Hierarchy has a search

[night mortar]

did it, doesn't work

I deleted all the scripts

[tall dock]

Why from the front it looks normal but dissapear from the back?

[night mortar]

probably because you colored only one side

or you object is in 2D

[tall dock]

Weird, I just dragged a basematerial unto it on substance painter

[night mortar]

idrk

I am new too

I just know I made an error similar to this

[tall dock]

Hmm. understood

[thorn orbit]

when exporting from blender set transform to fbx all and apply transform, your armature got scaled to 100 because it wasnt set to this

not sure why it happens

[tacit storm]

thank you

[tame badge]

The avatar Im working on disappears from certain angles but its bounding box is gigantic... what am I missing. im trying to compare it to avatars without this issue but I cant tell what is differant.

[halcyon kayak]

apply scaling > FBX ALL in the blender fbx export?

[tame badge]

I have, no change. I have a suspiction

The center of it is way to the side and changing the origin is flat out ignoring me when I click it

No matter what I do, it rips itself to the side.

I move it and reset its origin but on export it, despite my not clicking to do so, it wrenches itself back

[past glacier]

hello, im currently tring to add a simple premade taggle with vrcfury and i really need some help on how to make sure im doing this right.

pleas dm me if you can help

[hallow tree]

Howdy y'all I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with my avi, hopefully without starting over. So what happens is the mouth just kinda hangs open a little. Visemes work, but it's like the mouth stays open during speech. I did modify the FBX, but I went back and replaced it with an unmodified one and it still does it. I also examined the blendshapes and that looks ok. Another note is that it looks fine in the unity scene until I go into play mode. I am thinking maybe I deleted something in the animator that could have messed things up? Well, I tried reverting back to the unmodified animator and that did nothing~~~

[somber meadow]

Remove the jaw from the rig mapping in Unity

[hallow tree]

hum well it's staying closed when I press play now... yeah that makes sense now if the jaw isn't supposed to be mapped, I think I had to do something with the fbx at one point that might have caused it to be mapped but I can't remember for sure

[somber meadow]

Unity will automap it frequently

but fail to get the chest bone most of the time, it's confusing

[hallow tree]

that fixed it, thanks! 😄

[lapis nacelle]

hey i dont know if theres anyone that would know this or not but if i copy over an avatar file to a new project is there a way to upload it without it affecting the previously uploaded version?

[balmy barn]

detach blueprint id, upload it wont be on the old one - no need for another project

[lapis nacelle]

okay thank you so much!!!

[sick tusk]

i am currently trying to make a png avatar with multiple material swaps/images using vrcfury, have i done something wrong?

[balmy barn]

its made in unity for one , you have no mesh in your animator

you will run into this where animator have no clue where to send parameters to

[molten pulsar]

Does vrc expose the parameter for earmuff mode?
i want a toggle to turn on everytime i use it

[balmy barn]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/#built-in-parameters

[fallen oxide]

@sick tusk

(Pinged him just so he knows about this)

[sick tusk]

thank you

uhh

nothing appears when i press it

[sick tusk]

nothing appears

ill take a picture on my phone

[molten pulsar]

thank you

[sick tusk]

Do I have to add animator components to my planes?

[balmy barn]

need to make it in blender or it will not have a mesh to talk to easy , just a plane moved slightly up so origin is at bottom ( red dot )

[sick tusk]

am i able to transfer my avatar to blender?

so i dont have to fiddle with it for an hour

because im more used to unity

[balmy barn]

nope, you can copy things over to it in unity tho

[sick tusk]

the line is there is that bad?

[fresh rose]

So how would i maoe it that my avi switched models btw?
So it like rn im tryna makw a senator armstrong
And i want it to change from shirt to shirtless but their 1 seperate models

How do i do that?

[ornate stump]

It's avatar origin and orientation indicator.

[fresh rose]

how on earth do i stop my fingers from doing this?

Can anybody help?

I kinda need this cua im currently doin a commission

[ornate stump]

It's quiet bold of you for accepting commission without knowing the topic through out.

[fresh rose]

I dont usually have this problem

Plus its just my friends so they know that im still learning

Im not taking large public commissions

[ornate stump]

You will have to fixed the bone orientation in blender.

[fresh rose]

Ah ok

it looks fine in blender

[ornate stump]

It doesn't.

[fresh rose]

Oh

Oh yeaa

They arent meant to be facin up

Ok

[fallen oxide]

Yeah those have to be facing inside the fingers

That's why

[fresh rose]

like this

[fallen oxide]

Yes

[fresh rose]

when ive did it now they look like this

[fallen oxide]

Still bugged?

[fresh rose]

yep

this is how they look with model on blender

[fallen oxide]

Check with the other hand

[fresh rose]

i havent did the other hand yet

[fallen oxide]

Ok then you might wanna check the bones and how you placed them

[ornate stump]

You should do mirror editing so it'd just do both side at time.

[fresh rose]

oh

didnt know that was a thing

how do i toggle that

[fresh rose]

theres only a x for me

[ornate stump]

Because armature can be mirror only in X axis.

[fresh rose]

oh

kk

they didnt mirror the other ones

[ornate stump]

Once you change bone asymetrically it would no longer be mirrored.

[fresh rose]

ah

[vagrant parcel]

can somebody help me with making a hue shifter on the body? i cant find any helpful tutorials online

i have poiyomi installed, but i'd prefer to not use it if possible, so i can add it to quest.

[ornate stump]

Then use Toon Standard instead.

[vagrant parcel]

i have poiyomi toon, does that work on quest?

[ornate stump]

No. Didn't you just answer that yourself?

[vagrant parcel]

im sorry im new to poiyomi😭😭

[vagrant parcel]

i looked up toon standard online and i cant find anything😪

[somber meadow]

Quest Avatars are only allowed to use VRChat/Mobile shaders

They come with the SDK

[vagrant parcel]

i know, i just want to make a hue shifter😔

i wont port it to quest if it isnt possible i suppose

[balmy barn]

just animate any of these , first one is everything , others could do with a mask

[past glacier]

hello, im currently tring to add a simple premade taggle with vrcfury and i really need some help on how to make sure im doing this right.

pleas dm me if you can help

[vagrant parcel]

what poiyome version is this?

[somber meadow]

VRChat/Mobile/Toon Standard

[vagrant parcel]

ohhhhhh

i dont have it :(

[somber meadow]

update your SDK

[vagrant parcel]

ok

[vagrant parcel]

lmfao idk how😭😞✌️

[ornate stump]

If you use VCC then via VCC.

[somber meadow]

open creator companion, click manage project on your project, and click the update button on the SDK packages

[vagrant parcel]

ty

[vagrant parcel]

so how do i animate these

i made 2 animations but idrk what to do with them😭

[devout locust]

I'm using a vrm avatar and I don't how to fix the hierarchy

[vagrant parcel]

i gochu in dms dw

[devout locust]

K

[molten elm]

do i need to have thumb bones mapped? im trying to have my model have arms without fingers like this

but if i leave the thumb there it will move the mesh on the surface when i parent it to the mesh

or would i just weight paint it to make sure it doesn't move the mesh

[ornate stump]

You rather mean "don't weight paint".

[molten elm]

yes thats what i meant but i just do automatic so id have to go and remove whatever it does paint

[ornate stump]

Auto weight always not accurate and you will have to do touch up after anyway.

[molten elm]

its pretty good for this model

not alot to fix

[molten elm]

how do i assign these to eachother

[ornate stump]

Assign what to what?

[molten elm]

the bones i removed their vetex groups or weights but i want all the fingers to control the red area

[ornate stump]

The red area is painted to hand bone so it's controlling by the hand.

[molten elm]

no its not i selected both

thats the group i just made

[ornate stump]

The weight group it's showing is written at the top left of the view port so you have to screenshot to include that corner too.

[molten elm]

im trying to pair them

[ornate stump]

Principlle of weight paint is to tell a vertex which bone it has to follow, simple as that. if a vertex is painted to 2 or more bone then all the bone movement will be applied the the same vertex.

[molten elm]

thats what i want to do, i dont think your understanding

its a mitten type of hand without the thumb

[ornate stump]

I don't understand what problem you're trying to solve.

Because having a vertex group without matching bone for weightpainting doesn't really make sense.

[molten elm]

i want the fingers to all controll the same vertex group

[ornate stump]

Each finger has different movement so that also doesn't make sense to have them all controlling the same part.

It will conflicting each other.

[obsidian tapir]

Hi, i need some help on how to properly add a menu for my jon arbuckle png avatar

ive used vrcfury to add toggles and such, but when i upload it to vrchat, none of my menus show up aside from the quick settings, i assume this has something to do with the rig being non-humanoid... but thats all i can figure out atm

any help would be appriciated

My menu on unity (gesture manager)

Menu in-game

[balmy barn]

#avatar-help message - you have no avatar in your animator , dont make these av's in unity, blender plane first

[halcyon kayak]

i would honestly just have one finger bone if it were me and just map to index

or one finger's worth of bones 😅

[obsidian tapir]

no avatar in my animator?

[balmy barn]

you have no 'avatar' mesh in your animator, controllers will have no idea what mesh to talk to

see the one missing = no menu

[obsidian tapir]

so i gotta make a few blender planes and import then into unity to replace unity's planes?

are you able to reshape blender planes in unity? @balmy barn

if so, could i just download one as i really prefer not touching blender with all my might

[balmy barn]

can also use a empty skeleton with a mesh, then drop things inside that, since it will know about it and stuff under it

[obsidian tapir]

yeah but then youll get that weird jitter with png avatars

as it does the idle animation

[balmy barn]

not if its in root

[obsidian tapir]

which one do you think is easier, im not exactly familiar with either of these methods

[balmy barn]

just make the plane in blender for the 'avatar' slot to be filled

only reason id use a empty skeleton if something need constraints

(or beeing lazy testing)

[obsidian tapir]

as obj or fbx

exporting the plane

i mean

[balmy barn]

fbx

[obsidian tapir]

alr, thanks man

so i did the plane animator

but in unity my plane just has a mesh

[balmy barn]

'create from this model' or there wont be anything

fbx import settings

been awhile since ive looked at my generic plane av (years)

[somber sequoia]

One bone can be weighted to one vertex group on a given object. You can of course weight paint one vertex to move with up to 4 bones though. So your answer for this is really just weight painting.
Make sure you have enough geometry to make it look sorta smooth though.

[near ivy]

how to fix

[brisk hazel]

Trying to get my avatar to work with MMD, its an MMD model, but the mouth isnt working with the VRCFury addon thing

this addon thing

[somber sequoia]

look in the console for clues

[balmy barn]

this doesnt do anything if you dont have the shapekeys on mesh already

exsample from a script that generates them in blender

[brisk hazel]

It has them on it...

I'll see if I can re-make them somehow though

[somber sequoia]

if they exist you don't need to remake them

[balmy barn]

Mesh must be named Body , never seen a animation that doesnt have that as base

[brisk hazel]

It is.. its literally an mmd model </3

[balmy barn]

vrcfury dont keep this , ive seen some anims that use it ' ウインク２ '

so i never use it

[night ember]

there is absolutely no reason to be using vrcfury for mmd

[balmy barn]

its whenever you use the blendshape optimizer it eats them

[brisk hazel]

The eyes work, but the mouth wont

[unborn mirage]

Is there a way to have the avatar display correctly during FBT calibration? When I wear my jacket, I hide my arm via blendshape. When I take my jacket off and calibrate, my arm are shrunk. If there are reading materials for this I'd definitely appreciate it. Trying to stick closely to using VRCFury for most toggles if possible to test out a fully modular workflow.

[night ember]

this is only happening cause its the default state of the avatar

[brisk hazel]

Then what should I do...

[night ember]

whatever the default state is
thats what you are in tpose

[night ember]

just dont use fury

have the mmd blendshapes named that
and DONT use the same said blendshapes in the avatar descriptor

its either you use it for mmd or you use it for the avatar
never both

[brisk hazel]

really helpful...cause its got both for blendshapes... </3

Both the Visemes and MMD shapekeys

[night ember]

just sounds like incorrect names or you are trying to use them for both
since its only the mouth not working

[brisk hazel]

Well, I've never tried doing MMD stuff with models before, so I don't know. I dont know how to tell. Which is why im asking for help.

[night ember]

screenshot your blendshape list

[brisk hazel]

Unless im just really blind and they're not there despite it being an MMD model...

[mental estuary]

Not if you use the MMD Compatibility component as well, which also does some extra fixes to make sure the model and animator works in MMD worlds

[serene hemlock]

guys anyone know this avatar?

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

[balmy barn]

i have used vrcfury mmd compability it will not keep them all , like i stated earlier - ' ウインク２ ' is one of them that goes poof

not that id ever recommend using vrcfury it does some annoying things like removing states that it think does nothing

this 'animation' does nothing imma remove it

[mental estuary]

Then you should report that it removes that

And if it removes an animation it shouldn't, report that as well

Not reporting anything and not using the tool won't magically make it better

[mystic schooner]

Does anyone at least know how GoGoLoco does flying on Quest? I want to try using a similar technique for something else, but it's for an avatar for someone who's stuck on Quest, so it has to work on Quest

[night ember]

its literally just a station since thats the only way you can have colliders on quest

just place it at the feet

[mystic schooner]

I've never used stations before, no clue how they work

[molten elm]

question, should the "face bone" from blender be the Head bone? its connected to everything in the head like eye mouth etc

[icy bane]

i put the avatar into unity and the quest textures are pink, how do i fix

[unborn mirage]

Is there a solution to it then given default state hides the arm? The default state seems required for previews too so the states are in a bit of conflict

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

you dont exactly need arms when calibrating fbt

[somber mural]

hellooo is there anybody here that knows how to mess with booth models? add toggles and change hairstyles and outfits into the toggles and can teach me :D

i have the base kipfel model and would like to customize it with toggles with different outfits hairstyles etc and i can’t figure out how to do it

[versed marsh]

so i had some issues with my fbx when bringing it from blender to unity and decided to use modular avatar to join it instead, its already rigged to the armature and sculpted, how would i go about merging it here?

[flat tulip]

Why does my Unity say I need an Avatar Descriptor when the Project is a World? It's suppose to say add a Scene Descriptor not Avatar Descriptor. Also I know this channel is called avatar help but there's no channel called world help so I'm putting this here and I need an answer.

[twin raft]

simply make the merge target your avatars armature

and youre done

[versed marsh]

do i put it on the game object?

or prefab

because it kinda broke when i went to launch gesture manager

or the objects armature,,

[twin raft]

i typically put the script on the clothings armature

[versed marsh]

okay let me try that

[twin raft]

hows it broken?

[versed marsh]

1 moment

going into play mode and seeing if this worked properly

[versed marsh]

the game object was detached and was behaving weird. this seemed to work though

is there any way for modular avatar to do some blendshape stuff?

in specific i need a blendshape to toggle when i turn on some stockings

[twin raft]

it can, vrcfury can too

i dont know how though

i use vixen personally

[versed marsh]

can you tell me about this way then?

[twin raft]

https://docs.hai-vr.dev/docs/products/vixen

i would just look at the docs for vrcfury or modular avatar

shouldnt be too hard

[versed marsh]

okayy thank you

[bold beacon]

Why can I not upload this avatar In anything but windows even if it's performance estimate is good? It says I can upload it as a fallback if i upload it to all available platforms, which is what I am trying to do

[left wharf]

You need to install Android Build Support from UnityHub

[bold beacon]

Ohh alright thank you

[versed marsh]

Another tricky thing i encountered in blender was trying to get these accesories rigged to my main armature. the tricky part is i need to keep all the bones for the chains and such while im rerigging but im not really sure how to go about doing this

armature A is the one i dont need while armature B is my main armature i need to have the accessories rigged too

[fiery crow]

could use an aim constraint or parent constraint for the legs

[versed marsh]

how would i go about that?

[fiery crow]

the unity component i mean

but idk, ive never tried something like this before or used quadraped final IK

[versed marsh]

ive been trying to wrap my head around it myself

quite the headache

[civic cliff]

i removed the underwear on an avi im making for somebody else, realized that was a mistake, then tried to add it back on by just dragging it from the base model onto my customized one, and now it isnt moving with the model at all, so if i want to get that to work, how would i go about that?

[civic cliff]

also hello didnt think id see you here

[versed marsh]

hi redd

[quasi tundra]

I thought I'd throw a model into vrchat for the hell of it, but the view is not at all coming from where I put the view position

[somber sequoia]

what program are you in here, Unity? Blender?

[civic cliff]

Unity

[somber sequoia]

is the asset rigged? how are you attaching it?

[civic cliff]

the underwear isnt rigged, i just used blendshape link and dragged it under the hip armature, which i figured wouldnt work, but it works fine on the base so i dont know how they managed that

either way, i think ill just move the clothes from the edited version onto a fresh version

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's not going to attach it to the armautre

[civic cliff]

i figured, i just tried it anyway

[serene hemlock]

anyone know this avi?

[ancient zephyr]

Hello everyone

How are you all doing

[timber wharf]

@serene hemlock #1138520828556890214

[serene hemlock]

i did no one answered

[timber wharf]

heres a channel to make/upload avatars, not name them. so ye

[serene hemlock]

sorry mb

[fiery crow]

sus

[woeful raft]

Anyone like a wizard with this stuff?

I’m running into issues with my purchased avi

[somber sequoia]

just ask your questions

[molten elm]

how do i connect these 2 bone spheres? i had to add an extra bone and this one is kinda just floating but its connected at the bottom sphere

[somber sequoia]

"bone sphere"?

and also what do you mean connect?

[molten elm]

the sphere of the bone

yes

[somber sequoia]

the spheres are either heads or tails

[molten elm]

new to doing armature stuff

[somber sequoia]

you can "connect" a bone's head to another's tail by making it a child of that bone

[molten elm]

im trying to clear the parent but its not doing anything

[somber sequoia]

you can't "connect" a bone's head to another bone's head

[molten elm]

its not

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what this diagram indicates - you want to move that where?

[molten elm]

the top one that is circled, is pared with the head bone under the highlighted bone

i want to connect the head of the highlighted to the tail of the circled one

but its already parented

[somber sequoia]

okay so make the hilighted one a child of the circled one

ohhh ok

the in the bone properties box near where it shows the parent is a checkbox called "connected"

enable that and the head will snap to its parent's tail

[molten elm]

thank you that fixed it

didn't know there was a tab for it

[somber sequoia]

yep!

[dark jay]

letssay i have another armature like a coat and i didnt want to use blender to merge would i parent constraint in unity?

[somber sequoia]

you could use VRCFury's armature link

[dark jay]

thats a thing?

can i still have it be a toggle after

[dark jay]

do u know

[somber sequoia]

probably?

I don't use fury

[dark jay]

ok

[vagrant crater]

so as someone who understands the basics of phys bones ive had a hard time making this cloth work especilly with full body id love some suggestions on how to treat something like this

[high rapids]

Where in unity is this menu?

I have lilToon imported I think

[somber sequoia]

Looks like it's material properties, so look in the inspector when you have a material selected

[high rapids]

Mine just looks like this

[somber sequoia]

that's the dropdown to choose a shader.

[unborn moon]

getting this error constantly on my avatar, and uploading works, but adding "extra assets" causes it to fail uploading

[high rapids]

I got it to work!

[stuck oxide]

how do i add end bones to the boobs? in unity it just doesnt pop up with the radius thing for phys bones when i apply them and they dont work

[ornate stump]

Without end bone, you have to set end position in physbone.

[stuck oxide]

how do i do that?

[ornate stump]

set end position in physbone

Literrally that.

[stuck oxide]

ok

[stuck oxide]

so that lowk told me nothing, idk if you mean in unity or blender or even what menu to do that from

[ornate stump]

physbone is a component only in unity. all the settings exist in the component itself.

[spark walrus]

why does my unity infinitly load when i made a expression menu?? 😭

[cobalt zephyr]

so i wanna change the fbx in a prefab with a copy that i edited on blender to fit my avi, is that possible?

i only wanna change the fbx/mesh and nothing else

[ornate stump]

Given you don't unpack prefab in the scene and keep export settings the same then sure.

[cobalt zephyr]

how?

[ornate stump]

Just overwrite to replace the fbx file.

[cobalt zephyr]

?

like when i save i save over the original fbx?

[ornate stump]

Yes that's the definition.

[cobalt zephyr]

thx

i was trying something probably dum XD

copying over all the diffrences from the prefb and my fbx to mke a new prefab xD

should i export with leafbones?

[ornate stump]

If your model already has _end bone then you shouldn't.

[cobalt zephyr]

so this only happens to the blender edited versoion

idk why

since i just eddit mesh shape suing sculpt

[junior void]

did you perhaps sculpt on a blendshape

[cobalt zephyr]

it seems that when i replace the fbx some bones dont move properly

idk why

[junior void]

have you checked the console for errors?

or the import settings' rig tab

[halcyon kayak]

does anyone have a good tutorial for importing animations from a set of bones which are part of the armature, but NOT parented/attached to the main humanoid bones? most tutorials i can find are things like tails or ears.

my issue is that trying to import / extract the animation from the FBX into Unity's humanoid rig erases the data from bones which aren't parented to the top layer of humanoid bones.

is there any other way to import animations to preserve this data?

picture for reference. maybe something about the way it's set up is causing issues. the two sets of bones are part of the same armature, but their own independent heirarchies.

skull = weighted to head bone, cube = weighted to the back set

[devout locust]

I'm a known user and have spent a lot of hours on vrchat is it a bug or not?

[ornate stump]

Temporary issue. Try again in a few hours.

[devout locust]

Ok thx

[supple crag]

Does anyone know why all my avatars look like they have dinosaur arms

Basically the arms are positioned weirdly on vr

They're fine on desktop tho

Please help!!!!

[ornate stump]

Screenshot also helps explaining your issue.

[supple crag]

Can I draw how it looks??

[ornate stump]

If you're good at drawing and it contains enough information then sure.

[supple crag]

The arms like this, I can raise them, and gestures still work, but when I lower them completely they just look like this

[ornate stump]

Does it happen to the avatar you uploaded or any public avatar at all?

[supple crag]

Only the ones I upload

[ornate stump]

Is it proportionally correct?

[supple crag]

Yes, the avatar bases I used that both had the issues were manuka and rindo

[boreal sky]

hey im new on unity ect ect and its hard for me to upload my Booth avatar i cant understand anything even with a tutorial can sm1 help me

[supple crag]

I can help!! What exactly is the issue?

[ornate stump]

Does it happen to both bases?

[supple crag]

Yes!!! I assume it's an issue with me and not the bases I think

[boreal sky]

everything i cant even find where is my avatar on the files

[supple crag]

But I'm not sure what could've caused it

[supple crag]

It should be in downloads assuming you downloaded it

[ornate stump]

Have you tried other people using your avatar?

[boreal sky]

my ex use to use alot unity but yk , its a Booth avatar so there is like 10k files and i cant understant shit

[cinder mortar]

Whenever someone has a second, does anyone know why this is happening? It's happening cross-platform. the lower legs seem to be linked correctly but everything else is broken

[supple crag]

Nope, but I've used it on desktop and pcvf it's a PC only avi

[ornate stump]

Avatar from gumroad usually has 50x the files more than booth avatar, just so you know.

[boreal sky]

idk what to put ect ect so yeah

[supple crag]

The file you want should be a unity package file

[supple crag]

Unzip the rar files

[boreal sky]

yeahhh... but what if there is like ALOT of that

[boreal sky]

i did alrdy

all u see is unzip alrdy

[supple crag]

What's the models name?

[boreal sky]

Jumpy

[supple crag]

The file u likely wnt is ym jumpy ver 4

[ornate stump]

Try having other people use your avatar as well to identify whether it's your game settings or the base itself.

[supple crag]

Got it.

Do any of y'all have PC VR?

[boreal sky]

yeah but it puted me this file

[ornate stump]

The base itself should work fine unless you did some change to it.

Also try testing with only the base avatar without customization.

[supple crag]

That's a vrm file, you likely want to convert it to fbx in unity using a plugin

[boreal sky]

uhhhh

ok how XD

[supple crag]

HOLDON, I'll send a plugin

[boreal sky]

ok ty

[cinder mortar]

Doesn't unity have a built in fbx converter?

[junior void]

no

[supple crag]

https://booth.pm/ja/items/1025226?srsltid=AfmBOooOuQgzreqN0QlN-WVv9237wTZPNtnStlKBLCHmYeo6odndZOgb

[cinder mortar]

what in the world have I been using this whole time

[junior void]

dont convert vrm in unity with plugins. it causes more issues than it does good even though ti sometimes works

[boreal sky]

thanks and i have to put this on unity ?

[supple crag]

Yep

[boreal sky]

ehhhhh thanks

[cinder mortar]

Is it possible for anyone to help me with this

[junior void]

go into the advanced settings and play with the 3 alignment options.

its likely a rotated hip bone. old rex had the hip upside down and some assets didnt update it

[cinder mortar]

"advanced link target mode"?

[junior void]

untick rotation

[cinder mortar]

ohhh

[cinder mortar]

tysm :)

how do I change my avatar's default height? can I just scale it down in unity?

[ornate stump]

You scale it in unity. Also you have to adjust eye height in avatar descriptor after.

[cinder mortar]

thank you. is there, like, a math formula i can use to figure out what to put the scale at

[ornate stump]

Create a Cube object and use it as reference. Defautl cube size is 1x1x1 meter.

[cinder mortar]

oh i was trying to math through it lmao

[ornate stump]

Scaling is relative so if there aren't any reference, any math wouldn't work either.

[cinder mortar]

oh. fair. I was trying to convert to a percentage and then back, if that makes sense. like, 100/(default height)x(target height)

[ornate stump]

Yes. But you don't know what the original height is to begin with so that doesn't work.

[cobalt zephyr]

so some bones wont get closer to the avi

[ornate stump]

What "some bones"?

[cinder mortar]

But I do? in vrc when you go to scale it it says it's default height. plus, the original eye height. not the exact same as true height but I was accounting for that

[cobalt zephyr]

or rather parts of armature

it wont move any lower

[ornate stump]

Since you know the actual height so the math should work.

[cinder mortar]

ok cool

[ornate stump]

Why is it there to begin with? Did you edit avatar in blender?

[cobalt zephyr]

i edited teh mesh in blender but i dont know why that break the bones or whatever this is, it happens only when i try out the character otherwise looks fine

[ornate stump]

Did you do unpack prefab object in the scene?

[somber sequoia]

possibly you didn't export from blender with the same settings as previous? Or yeah, you unpacked the avatar?

[cobalt zephyr]

no trying to get it in with vrc fury

[somber sequoia]

... fury has nothing to do with this though

[ornate stump]

Does it do that if you drag a new model file into the scene?

[cobalt zephyr]

the avatar is unpacked the asset of the pice of clothing is not since i am using vrc fury to put it on the avi and it only hapens when i check with gesture manager in play mode otherwise looks fine

[ornate stump]

One thing is avatar model must not be unpacked.

[somber sequoia]

yeah don't unpack.

[ornate stump]

It's also confusing when I asked and got "no" as an answer first time.

[devout locust]

How do I fix this i don't have any pc shaders on this avatar

[somber sequoia]

you definitely do somewhere. You'll have to find it.
Given that it's an error, it'll probably be on an object that's currently pink

Might be a material used in a swap animation though

[junior void]

maybe you changed the number of materials somewhere to get rid of it. often done on the cornea. that wont delete it tho, just make it unaccessible

[devout locust]

I found the shader and took it off my avi and it's still there

[junior void]

how did you take it off

[devout locust]

I switched the shader for matcap lit on my quest harness

[somber sequoia]

removing the shader will just result in a broken material exactly like this, you have to change which shader that material is using.

[devout locust]

I deleted poiyomi and it is still there on my mat

[junior void]

the header is only the name

yo can name the material anything really

[devout locust]

I fixed it anyway

[median plover]

anyone know how ti fix this

[somber sequoia]

show your rig setup, probably you have the wrong bone in that slot, or none

[late heath]

make sure your rig has a chest mapped in the humanoid rig vrchat requires a chest bone

this may be a dumb question but does anyone know if its normal for toon standard to be so.. bright under certain lighting conditions?? i dont know if somethings messed up or not but ive heard that this has happened to other people in multiple occasions

[halcyon kayak]

toon shaders generally work with a set of shades per color. i don't know how they work in unity, but in other programs their upper value can be manually set. it's probably a pain but there's almost definitely a way to set it not to go over a certain value, or to change the threshold at which the shader becomes that value, though at the expense of more nuanced highlights perhaps

i would imagine for pre-set shaders, it would be created for "general purpose" use, but i'm sure there are plenty of VR Worlds out there with unique lighting setups which may not interact as expected with some shaders

darker than normal, lighter than normal; this is one "con" of toon shaders compared to other types, with the "pro" being that they look REALLY REALLY GOOD under the ideal lighting conditions

[ornate stump]

https://gachoki.com/delete-orphaned-data-in-blender/

[manic wharf]

Dose anyone know how to fix this glitch I keep having.
I get no blueprint id when I try to upload an avatar

[ornate stump]

The top error is the problem.

[manic wharf]

Ohh

How do I fix it?

[ornate stump]

It's written there.

[ornate stump]

Do you read it whole though?

[manic wharf]

Kinda I just deleted the armature itself

Sorry I've only been using unity for a few days now

[ornate stump]

That creates a much bigger problem.

[daring lark]

Didn’t see it in orphan data

[ornate stump]

Can you take screenshot of what it's showing?

Also use snipping tool with Window+Shift+S key to properly take screenshot.

[somber sequoia]

you either install the missing package that the script requires, or you remove the script component. Don't remove the armature 🙂

[somber meadow]

just click purge

and if you're on blender 4.x it'll have a recursive function, make sure that's enabled. If you're below version 4.x keep purging till it stops you and says it finds nothing else

[ornate stump]

Then it isn't orphan. You could track it down with Blender File view in the same outliner.

[umbral oriole]

need some help and advice trying to put a hair material that is animated on a new hair fbx that i have added onto the avatar but the animations dont work on the material on the new hair fbx how can i fix this
if it is relevant in the poiyomi shader they are marked as rename and animate when locked

there are several animations for this hair material and i dont want to have to reanimate everything

[ornate stump]

It's usually because the object path name doesn't match with how it's record.

[umbral oriole]

anyway to resolve this? or am i stuck in a bad spot?

[somber sequoia]

you can change the path name if you click twice on it, or hfcRed has a really great animation repathing tool

[ornate stump]

Can you just rename the object to be the same as previous?

[somber sequoia]

or that

[umbral oriole]

wait that works? ok ill try

[somber meadow]

Animations are entirely just path based from the point of an animator

[umbral oriole]

issue is its a child in the fbx so the path wont work i dont think

[umbral oriole]

ill look into this

[ornate stump]

Mesh object is just a single level child so there is no reason for something to break after rename.

Or did you think you can't rename the child object? That isn't the case either.

[umbral oriole]

ok ill try it out just making sure cause i have seen some animations break when i make a mesh or fbx a child of something

[ornate stump]

That's because when you moved object, its path changed.

If you moved in to different path that can't rename then you will have to use some tool to move it back to original location or use animation repathing tool.

[daring lark]

Ok it worked thx

[umbral oriole]

ok i see so in this case here there are a few hairs in the fbx fitted to the avatar, would i need to change their names?

[ornate stump]

Did the path within hierarchy change too?

[umbral oriole]

no i just added the fbx in then i tried putting the materials on the hairs

[ornate stump]

So you still have the original hair, and the new hair which animation doesn't work added later?

[somber sequoia]

if you load the animation as if you were going to edit it, you'd see the paths yellow if they don't match your hierarchy

[umbral oriole]

yes

[umbral oriole]

they all work but only for the original hair on the avatar and not for the new hair i have added

[ornate stump]

Do you still want to keep the original hair?

This matters if you want to keep the original hair working so you shouldn't touch the original animation and just record new animation into there.

[umbral oriole]

yes i want to keep the original hair and the main issue is i would re animate it buuuut
there is
color change
hue shift
greyscale
emmission
saturation
all these are things i would need to reanimate not to mention for both hair material so i would need to do ti twice

[ornate stump]

You will have to record for both object separately.

[umbral oriole]

bruh is there really no other way?

wait so what happens if i get rid of the og hair?

[ornate stump]

It still won't work until you repath them.

[umbral oriole]

ok got it, can you give me the step by step to repath the animations

[ornate stump]

I can't give step by step.

Manually you would just select the property in animation, hit F2, and rename to the new path.

There is a tool Kazin mentioned but I have never used it.

[somber sequoia]

You could copy animations and repath just one, rather than re-record.

but if it's only like 2-3 paths I'd just edit them manually, otherwise I use hfcRed's tool.

[umbral oriole]

its like 5 or 6 for each animations

ok im gonna attempt this

[somber sequoia]

you can also edit the files (they're just .yaml) and find/replace in a text editor, I used to do that before the Red made the tool

[crystal magnet]

Hi

[umbral oriole]

can you link the tool?

[somber sequoia]

I don't have a link handy

it should be easy to find

[crystal magnet]

Does someone know how to port a model's textures and materials from blender to the unity hub for an avatar

[somber sequoia]

save the textures as image files, put them into your Unity project, make new materials there.

[crystal magnet]

ok i'll try that

thanks

[crystal magnet]

how can i make new materials

[somber sequoia]

I don't have unity open, but it's in the menu, assets -> create -> material

I think that's right

[crystal magnet]

i mean

how can i give the "new material" the textures

[versed marsh]

can anyone give me a physbone script for chains?

[somber sequoia]

drag the textures into the appropriate slots on the material

[versed marsh]

Or does anyone have a way i could find one?

[somber sequoia]

there are lots of videos which show this

[somber sequoia]

it's not like there's one way to do this. I'd suggest playing with it until it works how you want it to. The defaults are a decent place to start.

[versed marsh]

Alright ill trial and error it i guess

i figured there could be a basis for the physics and all that on a script

[somber sequoia]

yep. don't forget limiters, they're really useful.

[versed marsh]

is there anyway i could add collision to the floor?

preferably i need the path to go something like this for the bottom 2

[somber sequoia]

put a plane-shaped physbone collider on an empty game object and drop it onto your avatar somewhere

Position it at the floor

then drag it into that chain physbone's collider list

[versed marsh]

like this?

[somber sequoia]

sure. I'd name the object something useful so you don't forget what it is 🙂

[versed marsh]

alright

[versed marsh]

so would i add a physbone collider script below my chains physbone scripts?

and just drag my floor collider to the transfform

[somber sequoia]

for what purpose?

[versed marsh]

wait ok holdon

[somber sequoia]

colliders are things that physbones will collide with

[versed marsh]

im getting the wording messed up

[versed marsh]

how do i do this part?

[somber sequoia]

drag the game object you just created into the physbone's collider slot

[versed marsh]

Ohhh

[versed marsh]

like this?

[somber sequoia]

no

a) that is the collider, not the physbone script

[versed marsh]

I dont see a slot for colliders

[somber sequoia]

b) that is not the "collider slot", that is the "root transform" slot

Look in the physbone component, not the physbone collider

[versed marsh]

here?

[somber sequoia]

That is the physbone script, see where it says "colliders"

(this is all in the documentation too)

[versed marsh]

theres only a size

no slot for the collider i made

[somber sequoia]

unity 101: increase the size number to get a slot

[versed marsh]

Ohhhh

okay lmao thank you

[daring lark]

My unity just crashed while trying to submit a avatar after finishing setting it up 🥲😭😭😭

Bro now my phybones don’t wanna work im actually crying

[tribal haven]

Can anyone show me how to export a substance painter material to put it in unity?

[somber sequoia]

I personally use an export template I made based on Poiyomi's, the docs and template files are here:
https://www.poiyomi.com/general/substance-painter

er, "preset" is what I meant.

and no, it doesn't mean you must use the Poiyomi shader.

[wicked tide]

im getting these errors and idk how to fix

[tribal haven]

Oh I didnt know poiyomi has their own thing for the substance painter I am using

ill look into it thank you

[somber sequoia]

yeah it's a good guideline. I based my own presets on that, but do different ones depending on if it's an avatar or world project, or if I'm outputting masks vs. the whole PBR texture set.

[tribal haven]

That's also the thing, I'm trying to make an avatar and all I've found from the materials in here is like dirt

Gravel, coarse sand

[somber sequoia]

yep, there's some great ones in there

[tribal haven]

What template should I be using for an avatar? Metallic roughness doesn't sound like that's the one

[somber sequoia]

why not?

I use the substance shader pbr-metal-rough-with-alpha-blending for most things

[daring aspen]

I've been uploading avatars for long time and never had to deal with this

why now is the sdk giving me problems

[tribal haven]

I really wish I could just paint this guy and ship it somehow, I don't even understand what the shader is doing 😭

[somber sequoia]

you can?

paint, export albedo, normals, metallic & roughness. drag those into the right slots in the material in Unity, with the shader of your choice. Ship it.

[verbal warren]

just a little curious if anyone knows why milltina hands are spread on default..? i can never use stockings/glove ect on milltina because of this goober stuffs

[somber sequoia]

I assume that's just the way the creator built it

[verbal warren]

sadly is

[somber sequoia]

bring it into blender and pose it how you want, then apply the armature modifier

[somber meadow]

Even then, assets made for the avatar should already account for it

if you use assets not made for an avatar, you get clipping/weight issues anyway

[somber sequoia]

yeah I was assuming they ment assets for something else, but I don't really know these avatars

[verbal warren]

the booth model is milltina, and the asset is made for milltina

[somber sequoia]

oh, strange that wouldn't fit then

[verbal warren]

just pain remains

[somber meadow]

did the avatar creator update the rig for the finger positions to change?

or is it some weird blendshape

[verbal warren]

isnt a blendshape, ill check for updated avi rn

[tribal haven]

Do you mean just export textures? Sorry im lost at "export albedo, normals, metallic & roughness" I'm sort of new to substance painter

[somber sequoia]

Yes, you export only textures from substance painter.

a decent primer on PBR, which is probably what you'll be using if you want realistic lighting and shading in VRChat:
https://www.adobe.com/products/substance3d/discover/pbr.html

ah that's more brief than I expected. probably a good intro either way

[tribal haven]

So I finish painting, export textures, output is PBR metallic roughness, what would be the file type and bits? The substance painter extension for unity says sbsar but default is png

[somber sequoia]

sbsar is not useful for vrchat, you want PNGs.

bits, up to you, I usually output 4k but decrease sizes in Unity to whatever is appropriate.

this part of the docs tells you what files you'll get out of that template:
https://www.poiyomi.com/general/substance-painter#textures

you may not have all of them, it depends on what your project uses.

[slow panther]

ive been stuck on an issue for hours, im not really sure whats going on, my avatar is so so close to being done but my top toggle isnt working, the shirt has a physbone TopLift_Angle paramter and I belive it something in the fx thats triggering my top to just spam go up and down
im looking at a side by side of when it was working and im just confused as ever
if anyone is around to maybe help with this id be so incredibly greatful i just wanna be done :hehehehe:

[somber sequoia]

if it says _Angle it's probably driven by a physbone

[slow panther]

ye

[tribal haven]

I've exported all the colors on my guy, where do I drag it from in unity? Where can I find it?

[somber sequoia]

in your material

(materials applied to mesh objects, so look at the inspector for a mesh object like the body)

[formal badger]

Hello, I am still fairly fresh into making avi's and I still don't understand how to read the console especially if it's avatar validation failed. Been trying to add gogo via modular avatar

[somber sequoia]

are those the only two errors?

[formal badger]

yup

[somber sequoia]

unfortunate

[formal badger]

how so?

[somber sequoia]

I've no idea what that means

[formal badger]

the avatar works without the gogo, as soon as I add the modular one it fails to validate, if I use VRCfury it compiles all the parameters and refuses to upload anyway

[glacial nimbus]

need help with the harness, I dont see too many users use them so should I even texture it?

[tribal haven]

You talking about here? That just opens all the poiyomi stuff

[somber sequoia]

Yes, "the poiyomi stuff" is where you do this

[tribal haven]

Unfortunately the poiyomi stuff is like pandora's box and I just opened it

No idea where i'd import the colors here

[somber sequoia]

I refer you again to the documentation I linked, which tells you exactly this.

[tribal haven]

ah ok ill read up

[hard hatch]

Is anyone here proficient with substance painter or making avatar textures?

[somber sequoia]

we are literally talking about using Substance 🙂

[hard hatch]

I take that as a yes then?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, some people here are proficient at those things.

[late heath]

best way to go about adding physbones to these arms? (so the "strings" are softbody and move with the force of gravity)

[somber sequoia]

that's going to be fun to rig, you'd need two sets of bones, one that IK drives and the other with the physbone sections

[hard hatch]

Good, I need some advice from someone who is since I'm having trouble making good looking textures, using the mirror mode on sp. Every time i try to use it, the opposite side of my painting comes out terrible looking and often times, even if im in UV mode, the strokes will bleed onto other UV tiles.

[somber sequoia]

yeah, substance's mirror mode is not so great

[late heath]

ill probably see what i can do when i actually get to the rigging process.. im still trying to think of how to structure that anyway

[somber sequoia]

I often find myself painting in 2D when mirroring

[hard hatch]

Exactly, and i want to know how other people who do make good looking textures so it because this is so frustrating 😫

[somber sequoia]

practice 🙁

[hard hatch]

True , but I'd like to digure out a way around crappy software...

Like maybe ppl use something else, which I doubt, but I want to know if im the only who can't figure out a way to master using the mirror mode

[somber sequoia]

Usually if you're careful about how you setup the model used in substance, it can be better. or use masks well to prevent painting on the wrong things

I'm not sure what advice to give really

[hard hatch]

Yeah, I think at this point, I'll just have to start using masks more often to compensate for the awful accuracy from the mirror tool

Which im definitely not opposed to

It seems to be the only option i have atm

[somber sequoia]

absolutely use a lot of masks

not sure what you're painting but I often split up my model so it's easier to paint in 3D. like the parts of a suit of clothes

[hard hatch]

Ah well I'm currently texturing a Nightbeast avatar base, which has all the meshes for the clothing included with the fbx.

My main issue is trying to do the textures around the mouth and fluff area's, as that's usually where I run into the issue of UV bleeding

[somber sequoia]

you can bring it into blender and split it up into parts, if you want to go this route

technically I don't split things into separate objects, but more move parts away from each other, like say the shirt x+1 and the pants x-1, etc.

[hard hatch]

Well the problem I'm having is that there's not enough space between the parts of the body mesh itself. Example: trying to texture the lips using the uv mode, the color always bleeds onto the upper or lower lip, depending on which side im doing

[tribal haven]

So I read up and got more confused 😭 there is no option to place anything

[night ember]

then paint it in the actual uv window itself

[somber sequoia]

Yeah exactly

[hard hatch]

Or doing the ears, the color always bleeds onto the fluff inside the ears, despite the fluff being a different tile

[hard hatch]

Thats exactly what im doing

[somber sequoia]

you have to unlock the material, if it's locked

[night ember]

well of course it would when your brush is also hovering over that part of the mesh

[somber sequoia]

paint the edge on the UV tile instead of in 3D then

or use a mask

in the 3D mode, it ignores tile borders, that's the whole point

[hard hatch]

Yeah I'm saying thats what im doing, it just always messes up on the mirrored side

[night ember]

then its not actually mirrored

[somber sequoia]

or the mirror point isn't in the right place

[hard hatch]

Exactly, the issue is with the mirror tool, nothing else.

[night ember]

then dont use it?

[somber sequoia]

you can move the mirror point, did you try that?

[hard hatch]

Not yet

[hard hatch]

Well I'd prefer to not have to individually do each side of a texture that's supposed to be symmetrical, considering im not good at doing such things

[night ember]

if its going to be exactly symmetrical then why didnt you just have them share identical uvs

[tribal haven]

I just exported it, I assume it's unlocked? No? Where would I do that?

[somber sequoia]

I again refer you to the Poiyomi documentation

[hard hatch]

Wdym? I didn't make the base im using, if that's what you're referring to.

[night ember]

if its going to be symmetrical with absolutely no differences then just have them share the identical uvs

[somber sequoia]

also you exported textures, a material is the thing that combines textures and applies them via a shader to the faces of a mesh object.

[night ember]

material contains textures
shader tells how the material should render

[hard hatch]

I would if i knew how to do that. I'm by no means experienced with editing models sadly.

[somber sequoia]

yes, that's a better way to say it.

[night ember]

you can just select ear
copy uvs
select other ear
paste uvs

[hard hatch]

Would that be a blender thing?

[night ember]

yea?

blender is where uvs are edited

[hard hatch]

K

[night ember]

would be more specifically
textures are the flat images for the model
materials contain the data of which verts are affected by it
shaders tell how the material renders

[tribal haven]

Okay I put something in there and nothing about this guy changed

I put one of the "fur" things in there

[night ember]

well did you put the material on the actual mesh

[tribal haven]

now i did and he looks terrifying but thats okay

um

I just dragged it onto him I don't think I was supposed to do it like that

[night ember]

you drag the material not the texture

dragging the texture just makes every material slot a generated default material with that texture

[somber sequoia]

its hard to be specific as to which part you're dragging the material onto if you do it to the 3D model, I usually drag them into the slots on the mesh renderers.

[tribal haven]

Okay he's looking slightly less scary now that its a material thank you

Still not sure where what I painted in substance painter is

I've read that document now

[night ember]

did you export the image

[tribal haven]

I exported the textures

That doesn't include the image of it?

[night ember]

you say you exported them but did you actually get an image

[somber sequoia]

(textures are image files)

[tribal haven]

Oh yeah I have a Body_Base_color.png here

[night ember]

did you import it into unity

[tribal haven]

Yeah it's here in "Assets"

[night ember]

drag that onto the material

[tribal haven]

I did it! He looks like an analog horror monster right now but I can make it look better I think

I assume you'd go into the poiyomi things to really fine tune it

[night ember]

I mean if you are using poi sure

[fervent spear]

hi guys i wanted to try fixing the top half of these ears because the mesh looked a bit squished?(1st image) but im worried because they kindof move with physbones, and im wondering if doing this will affect the way they move? just wanted to know if i rearranged the vertices correctly (in the 2nd image)

[junior void]

Removing/merging vertices shouldnt cause issues. Making new ones is the problem as theyll not have any weights

[fervent spear]

tysm!

[still hinge]

how does one add arm colliders to an avatar because ive been here for a solid hour now trying to figure this out and ive added pretty much every collider that is in unity and or vrcfury 😭

[ornate stump]

What is the purpose of arm collider?

[still hinge]

just so my arms move my body/hair/chest

[ornate stump]

It's physbone collider. But moving the body doesn't make sense.

Also are you sure you want it to be on arms and not just hands?

[still hinge]

yes im sure, and i have tried physbones collider but that didnt seem to work

[ornate stump]

You will have to assign those component in the physbone component too. Telling that physbone must collide with the collider.

[still hinge]

i will try that again and ill tell you if that works

[still hinge]

that didnt seem to work, do you know if the physbone collider works with marshmallow pb?

[ornate stump]

You will have to assign the colliders in the marshmallow pb settings.

[still hinge]

a i found it thank you 😭 i didnt see the collider tab in marshmallow

[sour sun]

I need a free avatar

[night ember]

theres the entirety of publicly uploaded avatars to pick from

[somber mural]

would anyone know why my second outfit for my kipfel model is suddenly invisible it was working fine earlier and now even if i turn it on i don’t see it

[ornate stump]

There are tons of reasons and you have to provide more information how you did it and how you test it.

[somber mural]

i’m honestly not sure how to word it this is my first time trying to customize a booth model 😭

her other outfit works fine when i check it on and off but the second one doesn’t show anymore and im not sure why

[ornate stump]

Why did you even have to screenshot diagonally? Also use snipping tool by Window+Shift+S key.

[somber mural]

LMAO

i took a pic for a friend

sorry

i didn’t know how to screenshot with this keyboard lol

[ornate stump]

Which object is the cloth?

[somber mural]

i know the second outfit is named black for some reason

[ornate stump]

Expand its object tree and see how the children objects are doing.

[somber mural]

i’m not sure what you mean but the drop down menu or the little right arrow?

[ornate stump]

The > arrow.

[somber mural]

i can see the outfit when i do that

[ornate stump]

As in seeing the list of object in hierarchy or visually seeing in the scene?

[somber mural]

i can see the hierarchy just the pieces of clothing as well as the outfit on my model in the scene

i tried taking a screenshot but it’s not saving to my pc 🥲

[ornate stump]

It saved into clipboard and you just have to paste in discord.

[ornate stump]

You are in prefab editing mode. Get out from there.

[somber mural]

oh 😭

how do i get out of that

i have never done this before

[ornate stump]

< button

[somber mural]

now i’m back to not seeing the outfit

[ornate stump]

I'm asking again "Expand its object tree and see how the children objects are doing."

I mean the solid arrow button, not the line one.

[somber mural]

what does children objects mean

[ornate stump]

It's object relation. Children objects are part of parent object.

[somber mural]

i feel so lost T-T

[night ember]

you have the object
anything that is under that object in the hierarchy is the child object

[somber mural]

OH

okay

i fixed it :D

[ornate stump]

Ok. Don't ever feel to tell what went wrong?

[somber mural]

there was something hiding it lol

i just had to click on it

all the way to the left it’s like an eyeball xd

i think i might’ve accidentally clicked it and hid the entire outfit

[ornate stump]

That's a button for hiding in the scene editor.

[somber mural]

i’ve never known about that

all i knew how to do prior to this was uploading avatars i’ve never edited one

[ornate stump]

You will get to know some day anyway.

[slow panther]

???????????????

[left gull]

likely a world-only shader

[somber sequoia]

yep, 'tis

[shut oxide]

i only have 6 materials in unity but for sum reason it shows 12 material slots once i upload it to vrchat why's that

[timber wharf]

its how many material slots you have, not materials.

you can have 100 materials if you only use 1 at a time, and you can have 100 slots used if its a complex model and you just replaced everything with the same black material without merging meshes

[shut oxide]

that makes sense thx

[somber mural]

okay so just a quick question i bought a tail ribbon for my model i would drag it into my avatar and then do i put it anywhere specifically or is that it

[hollow rover]

Yo guys its my first time enountering this issue but my physbones do not working during play mode, i have no errors and my avi's hair is movable and has working bones

does anyone know any common issues that does this?

[shut oxide]

u only need to parent it to the bone responsible for wherever u did put it

[barren wharf]

i dragged this onto an object and it just looks like this, is there a way to make it more visible

[somber mural]

i’m not sure what that means 😭

[dire heart]

is there a way to turn off vismes even in mmd worlds?

[night ember]

just dont have the mmd visemes

[halcyon kayak]

"parenting" is a concept about bone hierarchies. wherever the "parent" goes, the "child" follows. for example, the head is "parented" to the neck so that they stay attached.

you can make your ribbon the child of the hips, or whichever area you want it to stay attached to.

[karmic laurel]

anyone know why this is happening ?

[left gull]

its likely an animation (possibly part of the model's base layers) that's activating a blendshape for the body mesh to shrink the arms on activation

[karmic laurel]

what should i do then ?

[left gull]

remove the layer causing it in the FX if you're not using the original outfit toggles anymore or if you are then you'd need to swap it's setup so it doesnt set the arm shrink to 100 on load-in and only when wearing the specific outfit its doing it on

[covert remnant]

how do i add animations to my custom avatar?

[azure thunder]

Any experts on liltoon? Why's my outfit lit up compared to my avatar 😭

[serene patrol]

How the heck do I add these

[somber sequoia]

Assuming your avatar actually has the bones, go check the rig setup to see if it's done properly, with the right bones in the right slots.
If your armature does not have those bones, you'll need to add them in something like Blender.

(rig setup: find the model file in the project, not the avatar, then click the "rig" tab in the inspector and "configure")

[serene patrol]

Okay I fixed that but it's giving me avatar validation failed

I'm not really that good at unity yet so I have no idea what it means or how to fix it

[somber sequoia]

you'd need to provide detail, such as the first (at the top) 2-3 error messages in the console

[somber sequoia]

"auto fix"

[serene patrol]

used that on a previous project and it ruined evrything but ill give it a go

[somber sequoia]

the alternative is you can find all the textures which don't have that option checked and check them individually.

[serene patrol]

i did something and it fixed thank you for your help