avatar-help

[somber meadow]

blendshapes is a dirty workaround, but VRChat really should implement UDIM tile discarding into their quest shaders as it does nothing but help improve performance with actual results

[prisma thunder]

Question, would the blendshape cost performance 24/7, only when in use, or only when initially toggled?

[somber meadow]

when blendshapes are above 0% they'll be in the skinning call until they go back to 0

so make sure you have your default states when the blendshape is on 0%

[prisma thunder]

Oh! also this

[timber wharf]

even worse

[prisma thunder]

Didn't know about this

[timber wharf]

and you cant have them on quest anyway

[prisma thunder]

I have one -w-

I can use the tile discard for PC, just trying to find out if an invisible material would be better for performance than a blendshape toggle

[somber meadow]

Quest cannot render transparency on avatars, it's a limitation from it's GPU

[prisma thunder]

I mean it's invisible for them 🤷

Even when I get on quest, that materal works

Also

The blush on my avatar is transparent

Using the additive particle shader

[prisma thunder]

Iirc, I can go check right now

[worn kiln]

callout is not allow here + cannot process without user id which said in thread

[lilac orbit]

transparent shaders usually don't work in quest

[prisma thunder]

Sorry! I sent the ID in the ticket, though

[prisma thunder]

Particle ones seem to work fine

[scenic bridge]

Thank you, i couldn't find it

[night ember]

They are meant to be used for particles and are the only form of "transparency" allowed on quest and are awful for performance

[mystic schooner]

Okay, this is gonna be hard to explain... so I have a generic model rigged with rotation constraints and a hip position constraint to a humanoid rig so I can easily stretch and scale parts of it. I'm wanting to make the GoGoLoco floating cause the lower half to stay stuck to the ground while the upper half moves up and down. I've tried adding a spine position constraint and zeroing out the weighting for the hip position constraint when the GoGoLoco floating parameter is above 0, but it still moves fully up and down. Does anyone have any other ideas on how to pull this off?

[heavy zephyr]

Just adjust your hip position constraint to not affect Y?

[mystic schooner]

I mean, it's gotta for some animations, but if I can toggle it in animation, maybe. I'm guessing that's unchecking Y in the Freeze Position Axes?

[heavy zephyr]

Should do ye

[indigo falcon]

Hi, so I got an Rusk avatar on Booth. It works on PC without a problem but on Quest it shows only pink? How can I fix that.

[lilac orbit]

The issue is that your hip position constraint is still influencing the whole rig even when you zero its weight. You need to fully separate upper and lower body control when floating.
Try keeping Hip Position constraint for normal mode.

Add Spine Position constraint to the humanoid spine.

When GoGoLoco Float > 0 → Hip constraint = 0, Spine constraint = 1.

[heavy zephyr]

Looks like this avatar isn't using proper Quest shaders

[indigo falcon]

Im new to unity where could I find the Quest shaders?

[lilac orbit]

did you check before buying if it was quest cmpatible?

[heavy zephyr]

Vrchat/mobile/

[indigo falcon]

It is

I did get this error yesterday but didnt really look into it

[mystic schooner]

Yes, I tried that, it still all moved together. Kirian's idea didn't do anything, either

[lilac orbit]

yeah that's bc of the Pc shaders

[heavy zephyr]

Then you'll need some raycasting ✨ magic ✨

[lilac orbit]

well after this the lower body literally cant move...lol

[indigo falcon]

Which Package folder do I select?

[lilac orbit]

you need to change the materials

[heavy zephyr]

No need, just select the materials you have, make a copy of them, put the copies on the quest version and change those on the material itself.

[indigo falcon]

Where do I find the quest version?? ||I feel so stupid right now lmao||

[heavy zephyr]

To add to my last message, you'll need a raycast pointing downwards, detecting the ground (default layer). Then use the end point of that raycast as a source for your position constraint. Then swap between the two sources when flight is on.

[indigo falcon]

also found these alerts if that helps??

[heavy zephyr]

You're "making" the quest version by changing its shaders. If one was supposed to be provided, look into the folder that contains the avatar and see if a quest version exists.

[versed marsh]

Is it possible through VRC-fury to have it so on a toggle the socks fishnets and 1st pair of boots disappear but the new boots toggle on with my heel blendshape?

[mystic schooner]

Actually, I think it may have worked but I had to completely disable the constraint rather than do anything inside the constraint

[timber wharf]

@versed marsh fury toggle can use generic animation clips just fine

[lilac orbit]

Most position constraints don’t let you truly isolate Y, so fully disabling it when floating is the right way.

[drifting furnace]

idk how to fix this. ive changed the textures via unity, but when i get into vrchat it doesnt work. This model comes with a toggle with 3 textures you can change into. But non of them change into the texture i want in game. plz lmk if yk how to fix this. (also its doing a weird walking animation on desktop but i could care less for that)

[heavy zephyr]

You need to change the animations that change your textures

[drifting furnace]

tyy. I tried removing the animation toggle so it doesnt swap but nothing happened lolz. ty tho ^^

[heavy zephyr]

You would need to change the original animation to swap to your new material instead of the old one.

[drifting furnace]

ok cool! ty :)

[lilac orbit]

I think it's a custum avatar right?

[drifting furnace]

yesss, i think ive got it figured out tho

[lilac orbit]

that's good but you can ask the artist who made it to fix it for you then

[plain tusk]

Is anyone able to help me with how to properly work the TikTok to OSC Interactive System for VRchat, please?

[ornate wasp]

Is this where I can go to find some help with a particular problem that's been vexing me for about half a year now? It's about an Avatar I bought that doesn't seem to work properly and I was wondering if anyone would like to help me figuring out the problem/problems

[lilac orbit]

you can explain your problem here

[sharp oasis]

I'm currently having an issue uploading my avatar.
It goes through the multiple unity bars of loading after pressing upload, but then unity closes right before it finishes. No errors appear in the creator companion and unity closes before any errors appear either

Any help troubleshooting would be greatly appreciated

Also, there are NO warnings or errors when I press upload. The console is empty in unity

[green tinsel]

can someone help me with this im trying to add super form on my sonic avi but i got this

This is my issue

[lilac orbit]

Unity crashing at the end of upload is usually caused by memory issues or corrupt assets, even if there are no errors in the console. Check your Editor.log for details, try reducing texture sizes, remove unused assets, and make sure you’re using the exact Unity and SDK versions recommended by VRChat. If it still crashes, test the avatar in a clean project.

[sharp oasis]

it HAD a corrupt parameters file but I removed it from the avatar

I'll check my editor.log. But I'm also in the process of moving everything to a new project

where can I find my editor.log. Is it in unity files instead of the project files?

wow okay. transfered to new project and one or two errors appeared.....

[lilac orbit]

Windows: C:\Users<YourName>\AppData\Local\Unity\Editor\Editor.log

[open spindle]

My friend keeps having an issue with all her avatars having the blueprint id error

Like all avatars have that error

[green tinsel]

can anyone help me?

[ornate wasp]

I'll continue my inquiry in a bit, I wasn't expecting anyone to respond so quickly! I do appreciate your willingness to help! :) (if thats what it was that is)

[unborn robin]

Is there a way to make one toggle (that has its own parameter) automatically toggle on another toggle when its enabled?

I have a dress that I want to be able to toggle on, but I want it to automatically toggle on the panties whenever I click it

[somber meadow]

Use a VRCParameterDriver state behavior

[unborn robin]

I've tried this, I dont know what's wrong with it, but my dress is an int toggle (along with the panties) and when I put it on the animation in the fx it doesn't work. I'll toggle the dress and it doesnt toggle on the panties nor let me toggle them on while the dress is on

i might just be doing it wrong though

nevermind im stupid

i put the wrong parameter in the paradriver

[ornate token]

I'm using Vroid. I want to add clothing toggles, how would I go about that? I think i can just get the clothing mesh on its own, and then upload it onto the avatar, and i know how to make the toggles themselves, but how would I get it attached to the armature, so that it will animate and i dont have the legs clipping through the pants or anything?

[somber sequoia]

what exactly were you doing when this happened?

[somber sequoia]

good weight painting, possibly remodeling. or just hide the body under the pants.

[green tinsel]

this after noon whn i was trying to make my super sonic

[somber sequoia]

that didn't answer my question

[nova nebula]

so i have an issue, when i try editing eye pos on my avatar, the little ball to show where the eye aligns doesnt show, and i cant even really edit where my eye is easily

[somber sequoia]

enable gizmos if they're disabled - upper-right of the scene view, the little globe icon

[green tinsel]

making avis of cours and trying to add forms

[static cipher]

Question, is there a way to make a model rendered as Toon Lit on one part and Standard Lite on another part? Or at least, is there a way to get a similar effect? (If it helps, I have a map that fills the part I want to be Toon Lit with white, and I can make another that is just an inversion of it)

[somber sequoia]

sure, but you'd need to have those parts assigned different materials already.

[static cipher]

oh... dang

[somber sequoia]

you can do this in Blender or similar.

[green tinsel]

i guss nobay wants to help me with this error -_-

[somber sequoia]

I asked you a specific question in order to help, but you've only given me vague and non-specific errors.

[green tinsel]

and i did and i made a video of what happend

[somber sequoia]

that didn't at all answer

[green tinsel]

.....

[somber sequoia]

I admit I didn't see the video but what are you trying to do here, animate a material swap?

[shrewd stirrup]

how do i fix the avatar not being read as humanoid even though it is when i set it

[somber sequoia]

Look for errors in the rig window or the console or the build report in the SDK window to find out why

[shrewd stirrup]

the rig is set up right though

[somber sequoia]

This warning is telling you that you can't have a mesh object with the same name as a humanoid bone.

[shrewd stirrup]

yeah i js fixed that and its still acting up

i renamed the neck mesh to neckk would that work?

[somber sequoia]

sure

[shrewd stirrup]

yeah but after i did that its still fucked up

[somber sequoia]

then something else is wrong still

[shrewd stirrup]

its somethign dealing with the rig im sure

[shrewd stirrup]

i fixed it on the actual model but it shot it back like this

nvm i got it

tysm

[hot anvil]

Can you add two normal maps in unity?

I have a shirt I wanna use on an avatar but it came with two normal maps.

[somber sequoia]

probably came with GL and DX formats. Do you know what each is for?

[hot anvil]

one is for the top shirt and the other is for the undershirt but they're both the same mesh.

would i need to go back into blender and redo it that way?

[somber sequoia]

oh, if they're one material then probably you'd have to do something like Poiyomi's RGBA masking to apply them to specific places

same mesh is not relevant

[hot anvil]

okay, thank you!

[cosmic sigil]

does anyone know how to fix toggles not working in mmd worlds?

[spark wagon]

what are mmd worlds?

[somber sequoia]

are they in the first or second layer in your animator? MMD will override those two

[cosmic sigil]

im not sure i used vrcfury to make them

[cosmic sigil]

they're worlds where you can have your avatar do different dances

[tall cloud]

Does anyone have lego ghostface

[spark wagon]

maybe stacking 2 blank layers on top of the animator could fix it then

[spark wagon]

ah

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

[hot anvil]

its probably something to do with detail normals and textures but im unsure how to put it in the right spot

[cosmic sigil]

that worked thank you!

[somber sequoia]

oh nice

[sour sparrow]

real quick, does anyone know if my avatar will work if I have seperate head and body meshes?

because I wanna make it so the hair can be changed out but I dont wanna try it and it not work because im tryna do something quick rn

[spark wagon]

as in multiple meshes for each, or the head and body are seperate models?

[sour sparrow]

the body is one mesh, but i would have multiple head meshes for hairstyles

[spark wagon]

if they are all rigged to the armature the same way, you should have no issue

[sour sparrow]

okay great thanks, because ive been compiling my seperate hair models as completely seperate characters (im taking them from a game so all I gotta do is merge the armatures of everything together) but knowing that I can keep the body and head seperate is wonderful, thank you!

[somber sequoia]

you can only setup vrchat-driven visemes on one mesh though, so you'd have to animate those yourself

[fervent spear]

hey guys is there a way to weightpaint these sleeves to move with the hand without it looking weird? (the sleeves arent actually sleeves, they are the actual arm) 1st video is without weightpainting and 2nd is an attempt of weightpainting i did
they are supposed to look oversized btw

[somber sequoia]

you're on the right track, I think

[fervent spear]

oh awesome thanks:)

[nocturne nimbus]

I am not good with bones, can someone help me out?

plus I give up on rigging

[somber sequoia]

maybe? Provide details. Maybe use#avatar-riggingif it's really about rigging.

[nocturne nimbus]

Requires 15 bones

[tall cloud]

Well is someone willing to make me a lego ghostface avatar then?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not, but I certainly can't speak for anyone else.

[nocturne nimbus]

But I gave up on rigging because of multiple attempts and lack of motivation

[somber sequoia]

head over to the VRC Traders discord if you want to commission someone. Link is in #1204490664637890580

[tall cloud]

Alr

Ty

[somber sequoia]

sorry, did you have a question?

[wet pier]

im very new to making avatars and i keep getting an error when i try exporting them after trying to set up gogoloco, the only resources i have found on this error havent worked (renaming the armature, restarting the sdk, etc)

does anybody know what causes this?

[nocturne nimbus]

I was saying how my character requires 15 bones and I lost motivation to do rigging so I was going to ask if you knew anybody that could rig

[somber sequoia]

That's nothing to do with gogo loco, it means your avatar's rig setup was not done, or the armature is not one that works with vrchat

[somber sequoia]

oh - same answer I gave to the other person, VRC Traders discord to commission people

[wet pier]

my bones are properly set up

[somber sequoia]

green doesn't mean it's properly setup

any errors in the rig window? any errors in the console?

[wet pier]

not seeing anything in console

no errors i can see

[somber sequoia]

Show the whole inspector here, instead of just this clipped image

[wet pier]

sorry

[somber sequoia]

yep, bone names look good

[wet pier]

i havent changed any bone names so the solution in the thread i found on the unity forums doesnt work

[somber sequoia]

the bone names aren't actually relevant but it does indicate the right bones in the right slot, assuming whoever did the rig wasn't insane 🙂

[wet pier]

uh

how

[somber sequoia]

got a weird bone there

[wet pier]

the guy who made the model decided to directly link an object into their hand by making it a bone

[somber sequoia]

ahh

[wet pier]

ill just have to redo that

thanks for the help

im probably just gonna put the object back in later

your kidding

[somber sequoia]

hmm something's missing

[wet pier]

i readded the chest

i think its the end of the skirt

they dont have any assignment so ill probably just have to merge it into one

[somber sequoia]

that shouldn't be assigned to a humanoid bone

well I mean the skirt mesh can be weight painted to a leg bone but any skirt bones aren't humanoid

[wet pier]

damn

idk then

maybe somethings wrong with the animator?

I GOT IT

damn sorry

[dawn stump]

I'm fairly new to VRChat, and Is it okay to ask for help to make a picture into a VRChat avatar? If so, can someone help me?

[somber sequoia]

looks right

[somber sequoia]

Feel free to ask whatever you want.

[wet pier]

the issue was there was two seperate animators even though one was "removed"

i had to reboot unity after removing that one for it to fully work

[somber sequoia]

huh!

how weird

maybe you or something added a first, then the second got added when doing the humanoid rig setup? I dunno otherwise

[dawn stump]

I only ask because I really want an OC of mine as an avatar, but IDK how to make him as one... and I only got Blender to work with..... (Sorry if I'm asking for alot.)

[somber sequoia]

do you have a model yet?

[dawn stump]

No. Still need help on that.... But I got a picture ready for him.

[somber sequoia]

ah, yeah that's where you start

[dawn stump]

With the picture? Or with the modle? I still need to learn.

[somber sequoia]

making the model

[dawn stump]

Okay.

I also have 0 clue how to use Blender....

[somber sequoia]

to the Donut Tutorial!

or various other somewhat more modern ones

[glad jackal]

Okay, what did I do wrong? I had an asset in Unity I wanted to change the shape of, but there was no shape key for what I had in mind. So I looked up the assets from the Unity package I imported into Unity, made a different version of the specific asset I had in mind both as a .blend and .fbx file like the original, then tried to swap out the original files with the altered ones assuming Unity would notice. Unity did not notice and the avatar assets did not change as intended. What should I have done instead?

[somber sequoia]

don't import .blend files if you have the .fbx already.

but if you want to overwrite a .fbx you have to make sure that you don't unpack the avatar prefab, and you export with the same settings as were previously used.

[dawn stump]

4 hours long to make a donut... How fitting with little patience I have. Lol.

[nova nebula]

anyone know how i can get more info on why i failed "Security Checks"

[somber sequoia]

oh it'll take you much more than 4 hours to make an avatar

[nova nebula]

512x512 texture
9k tris
preformance: good

[somber sequoia]

Usually it's because some stat is way out of whack, or you've got something that isn't allowed. I don't think there's any way to get a real report on what's doing it.

[nova nebula]

sadly all green so my stats arent it, and i doubt the 2nd one highly

only for PC mind you, android and ISO are fine with it

this was before i reuploaded the windows

this was after...i never touched the android version

[glad jackal]

I do not recall unpacking the prefab. as that requires me to actively do so by right-clicking and selecting the unpack option, which I didn't really know was an option until you mentioned it.

[glad jackal]

I also just did the .fbx alone at the start and nothing about the model changed.

[keen orbit]

(Sorry for her hands being in the way its the only capture i have rn) IS there a way to make the hair not go into her face?

and like make sure its fully connected to the head. its on the same armature and is linked to the head but idk if itd working right

[rigid hemlock]

helloo, is it better to have one layer and one big blendtree, or multiple layers with smaller blendtrees?

[fresh cliff]

do physbones need to be included in the model skeleton or is it all done in unity

also when trying to fix model with CATS my model's textures get rearannged and colors are too vibrant

[dense gull]

hey can I ask? how do you remove these annoying balls and yellow lines? thanks

[timber wharf]

@dense gull gismos - lightprobes

gizmos being a ball icon now

[dense gull]

thank God all might thank you

[fiery gazelle]

anybody know why my animation properties for bones specifically are missing 🥹 they were working before on a different version of the model, the names didn't even change, so i'm so baffled and lost

[placid cedar]

Can someone help me for some reason the overlapping hair does this. I am using poiyomi shaders and its set to transclipping.

[fiery gazelle]

figured it out (no / in the armature... which is weird because it worked before unless i just renamed it and forgot)

[somber sequoia]

I did one last night where exporting didn't cause Unity to reload it, but doing it again made it wake up and do the thing. It's weird.

[left hemlock]

Trying to uh upload this avi to unity but i have no idea HOW TO USE unity… https://clalrdelune.com/b/SKcbu

[ornate stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRAnDMUbWt8
#1139228456090087495 message

[silk panther]

Can someone put an avatar for me?

i have file

i pay nitro

[somber sequoia]

you should commission people at the VRC Traders discord, link is in #1204490664637890580

[slender lake]

hey so im trying to a have a part thats only seen by other players or in mirrors (wichever is easier). Is there a way to do that? I tried with layers how they are described in the docs ( i tried Player, Mirror and making my own wich didnt get very far) but in the end the object is still constantly visable to the player itself.

[ornate stump]

For appearing in mirror: you have to use shader that has vrc mirror feature supported.
For appearing only when seen by others: use IsLocal parameter to determine state for object toggle.

[slender lake]

okay okay will look into that, thanks for the start!

[solemn hatch]

heyos im spooky and im trying to make 2 animations play at the same time but, one of them i only want to show for me. How can i do that?

also please ping me if you answer discord be weird

[icy badger]

Can anyone help me with this ?

[clear bloom]

Unity keeps telling me my avi wasnt imported as humanoid even tho ive changed it to humanoid. What should i do?

[tender parcel]

Hi, I have a 3D Tenna avatar file on my phone but no PC. How can I get it uploaded to VRChat?”

[night ember]

you require a pc

[ornate stump]

This model is not valid for humanoid rig.

[clear bloom]

the problem is you have ur fingers set as ur lower arm and upper arm. you need to make the intire skeleton with shoulders and all that even tho they wont be used.

[icy badger]

Do you know how I can do that ?

I'm still new to this

[clear bloom]

you need to go into blender and edit the armature. you then need to add the bones and name them to their corresponding bones.

[icy badger]

Are you able to help me on a vc ?

[clear bloom]

yea sure. one moment

[somber sequoia]

there's an image of the ideal humanoid armature pinned in #avatar-rigging

[wintry ledge]

the cd player and cd got broken even tho i didnt touch the asset :/ maybe it was one asset that i added that messed with it,its supposed to be by my waist on a belt,belt is linked all good just these 2..how to fix? what could be the issue

🧍

oof

[lilac orbit]

@solemn hatch Put the local only animation on a separate Animator layer and use a parameter that isn’t synced. That way, only you see it.

[lilac orbit]

Maybe Reparent the CD player and CD to your hip/waist bone and reassign any constraints that got unlinked.

[solemn hatch]

how can i do the 2 animations together?

[lilac orbit]

Put each animation on a separate Animator layer in the FX controller and set both layers to weight 1 with different Avatar Masks (so t hey dont override each other).

[solemn hatch]

i wantg them to play at the same time so im confused

[wintry ledge]

how do i fix shoes not being in the floor?

[wintry ledge]

also fixed it already ^^

[wintry ledge]

do i just move the whole thing up?

[lilac orbit]

In your FX Animator, create a new layer for the second animation.

Give that layer an Avatar Mask so it only affects the parts you want (or leave it empty if it’s safe).

Set the layer’s Weight to 1 and Blending to Override.

Add your second animation to that layer with the same condition as the first one (or its own condition).

Now both animations will run at the same time because they’re on separate layers.

[cobalt zephyr]

yall help my everything is gone QwQ

no hierchy, assets, properties

visible

[night ember]

dragging it up doesnt change the root

[plucky moth]

Can someone help me upload an avatar

[night ember]

dont ask to ask just state the issue you are having

[night ember]

double click scene

double clicking full screens

[dawn wharf]

Hello, does anyone know how to make one hand gesture with vrcfury? Both of my hands are gesturing, I do not want this

[night ember]

why are you using fury for that

[plucky moth]

I have no knowledge about how to do it on mobile cause i dont have a pc

[night ember]

you cant upload avatars without a pc

[plucky moth]

Thats why i asked for help

[dawn wharf]

Vrcfury has built in hand gestures(?)

[cobalt zephyr]

thx

[dawn wharf]

I would like it to be one hand, not both

[lilac orbit]

you must have a Pc to upload your avatar

if you don't have one how are we gonna help you?

[lilac orbit]

you can remove the keyframes for the other hand in the animation so it only animates the hand you want.

[dawn wharf]

These are default built in gestures, I'm confused

[wintry ledge]

sooo how to change the root?

[night ember]

blender is the actual way to move it
but in the rigging window in unity you can drag it up which is a temporary fix

[lilac orbit]

then Use the GestureLeft or GestureRight parameter instead of the default Gesture so it only affects one hand.

[night ember]

thats not how that works

if both hands are animating from one gesture you need to mask it correctly or use tracking control to specify which set of fingers you are animating

[dawn wharf]

Tried

[lilac orbit]

Can they add an Avatar Mask to the animation layer so it only includes the hand you want.
Or use Tracking Control in the animation to disable finger tracking for that hand.?

[night ember]

if the person wasnt deadset on using fury for some reason

[dawn wharf]

Trust me I've been toggling with the animation layer

[night ember]

youd just apply a mask like how the default gesture layer does it
or use the vrc tracking control property

[dawn wharf]

Will do

I just hate having to animate cause I'm lazy but that's just a me problem

[sterile rampart]

Is there a way where I can make a toggle that changes what part of my avi an asset is attached to?

[somber sequoia]

Sure, use a parent constraint with two targets, swap the target weights. 1 = object is there, 0 = object is not there.

[lilac orbit]

someone bann this scammer plz

[somber sequoia]

are you asking a question, or trying to advertise? Because see rule #10: don't advertise or solicit here.

[lilac orbit]

how would he know he is just weeks on discord lol

[somber sequoia]

by reading the rules for a server when entering it?

[sterile rampart]

Is that doable through vrcfury?

[somber sequoia]

I have no idea, I don't use it for stuff like that. They have documentation and a discord though.

[sterile rampart]

Fair

[lilac orbit]

I don't think he's real, what you think?

[sick tusk]

im about to make a png avatar with multiple pictures, how do i start, ive heard that i have to use texture change tool but i dont know how to make it a toggle

could i possibly get help with this

[sudden dew]

is it possible to have a quest version of an avatar as the pc imposter?

[somber sequoia]

I don't either, but I'm not an admin so that's not really relevant.

[heavy zephyr]

Technically nothing prevents you from uploading a quest avatar as a PC one. So go right ahead if you want

[somber meadow]

Upload the quest version first, request creating the impostor, and upload the PC version

[sudden dew]

will uploading a pc avatar as a quest avatar cause performance issues or issues with any toggles?

[sudden dew]

i thought imposters were auto generated?

[somber meadow]

I haven't seen that happen at all with my uploads

I still need to manually request generation

even if they did auto generate, I doubt they would on updates

[heavy zephyr]

It won't, if you upload the exact same avatar on PC, it will sync properly.

[rough palm]

Hello, could someone help me? I am trying to map my neck rig to the avatar but it keeps yelling at me that the shoulders are not children of the Upper Chest transform

[sudden dew]

so if i upload identical avatars with the same name for quest and PC it will use the respective versions?

[heavy zephyr]

Also remember, I'm talking about uploading a QUEST avatar as a PC one, not the other way around, you can't do that

[sudden dew]

ill give it a try and lyk

[sudden dew]

ok i was ab to say

[somber meadow]

You mapped the neck to "upper-chest"

[heavy zephyr]

They need to have the same ID. You upload your quest avatar, change the platform to PC and upload it as PC if you wish.

[somber sequoia]

neck is not upper chest - remove it from that slot

(upper chest is optional, you don't seem to have that bone so leave it blank)

[heavy zephyr]

Your first question mentioned having a quest avatar as a PC impostor (fallback)

[somber sequoia]

remember: impostor is not the same as fallback

[rough palm]

K, the neck bone isn't there in the menu

[sudden dew]

the way i thought of it is "can i have a quest version of the avatar show as the imposter for my pc version"

so am i looking more into fallback?

[rough palm]

No neck bone is seen.

[heavy zephyr]

Okay so, are you asking : Can I have my PC avatar show as the Quest avatar for people on Quest?

[sudden dew]

yes

[somber sequoia]

that looks better

[heavy zephyr]

Yes, so in that case :

1- Upload your PC avatar
2- Copy its ID either on the avatar root or in the SDK
3- Find your Quest avatar and attach the ID of the PC version to it
4- Upload the Quest version (you should see it automatically finding the details of the PC version on the Builder tab)

[sudden dew]

tysm! can i shoot you a dm if i run into any trouble?

[heavy zephyr]

Sure thing

[sudden dew]

i appreciate it

[sick tusk]

hey, im trying to make a png avatar but it comes up as medium, how do i make it good or excellent quality?

[somber sequoia]

You fix those things with the yellow circles

it literally tells you why it's not good

[sick tusk]

ive published it

may be a bug cuz on web it says excellent

ima check it

[somber sequoia]

ugh, I wish they'd fix those test inconsistencies.

[valid fable]

i need help with my avatar camera i need it to be at the head but its in between the foot

[somber meadow]

make sure there's no camera object on the avatar, and adjust the viewpoint in the avatar descriptor

[valid fable]

what should i adjust it to

[rigid hemlock]

click edit beside it and you'll be able to move it to where it looks best in the scene window

[teal laurel]

If it not already, move it between the eyes, sticking out of the head a bit

Not too much back into head as otherwise you can see inside your own body in vr, but also not too much infront so it feels natural

[valid fable]

its on return

i pressed on edit

[somber meadow]

you need your scene view visible

your layout is kinda cluttered currently

[rigid hemlock]

I can't figure out why my blendtree motions states are not changing D: usually one of the states is darkened to show it is off, but they both appear on whether i have the parameter toggled on or off

Ah figured it out

lol

the Always 1 parameter was not set to 1

[somber sequoia]

You'd need to use VRC Animator Tracking Control, set "mouth & Jaw" to "animation". Set them back to "tracking" to restore

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-tracking-control

yes - what is the something?

in most cases though you select it, and hit 'g' to "grab" it, then you can move it around.

what mode are you in?

[lone flax]

how do I get my avatars hoodie strings physbones to stop doing this

[somber sequoia]

and you're editing what?

[lone flax]

I want them to react properly but I lowkey can't do it

[somber sequoia]

if you're editing the armature you can't move a mesh object like the wings.

I suggest a basic blender tutorial

you'll want to be in object mode then, though after moving you'll want to apply transforms

select objects you've moved, ctrl+a, "all transforms"

uh, okay

[night ember]

Because you arent in pose mode?

[somber sequoia]

were you trying to pose or edit?

[night ember]

Thats why
✨tutorial✨

[somber sequoia]

that works.

[night ember]

Have you considered a bone tutorial not a whole entire blender tutorial

Says the one that knows fuck all about blender
Click the armature

Cant pose mode a mesh

Get pissy Ig

Refusing to learn blender then gets mad when told where to go

🤷‍♂️

[somber sequoia]

yep, sure does make you want to help people.

[night ember]

Like damn

Gets told the mode to use to move it so the wings follow then starts insulting when its not just handed on a silver platter

[heavy zephyr]

Luckily most people aren't like that sigh

[night ember]

Youd be surprised

[heavy zephyr]

Eh, they are loud but far from a majority. Been helping many people and most genuinely want help and appreciate that you are here to provide that

[night ember]

Ye

But also

Genuinely insane mindset to not know how a program works then insults the person saying they dont know anything about the program

[heavy zephyr]

Oh of course. But don't let one dumbass get on your nerves, they're not worth your time

[night ember]

I just think its funny

[cosmic sigil]

does anyone know how to make a simple pet follower?

[night ember]

Damping constraint

[cosmic sigil]

whats that?

[night ember]

Exactly as it sounds
A constraint that dampens movement

Vrlabs has a prefab on github

Most pet followers is just that but made to look fancy

[cosmic sigil]

i tried that but it didn't work for me

the vrlabs thing

[night ember]

"Didnt work for me"

Didnt work how

[cosmic sigil]

i kept getting an error that said "vrc expressions menu object reference is missing" and couldn't figure out how to fix it

[night ember]

Show all the errors

[cosmic sigil]

i deleted the file like an hour ago so i could start over and try something else

this was the error

[night ember]

You dont have a expression menu

[cosmic sigil]

how do i make one then?

[night ember]

Right click assets folder and create one

[pale siren]

Does anyone know how I can get Warhammer base Avis and textures (sorry for asking)

[cosmic sigil]

well now it won't follow my character correctly it just stays in place next to me

[night ember]

Did you follow the vrlabs video

[cosmic sigil]

yep

[indigo falcon]

How do I fix this on my Rusk avatar? I am using Toon lit shaders.

[cosmic sigil]

i think the issue is the part where i have to put a controller or something with this layer. its around 1:59 in the video

[night ember]

set it to a form of transparency

[indigo falcon]

how would I do that can you provide an screenshot if thats alright!! I was also using liltoon before I think before I changed it to vrchat mobile sahders

[night ember]

mobile shaders dont support transparency

in the material

[indigo falcon]

ooohh okay that makes sense

[sour sparrow]

quick question for anyone who knows, so an animation clip is obviously used for toggles and stuff, but would it be possible to make a delayed toggle with that animation clip (i want a transformation sequence but i want there to be powering up particles before the form happens)

[heavy zephyr]

That's the whole point of keyframing. Toggle your particles first in your animation and later the rest.

[sour sparrow]

alright thanks.

[indigo dock]

Hi Im converting my avatar to quest I use vrc quest tools and delete things to help convert it but when I did today it told me I was at 10.03mb/10.00mb so I deleted something and then it said 48.44mb/40.00 what does this mean and how do I fix this?? 😭

[next leaf]

can someone tell me what the hell is going on 😭 its only this bad in worlds other than my home world

[indigo falcon]

What would be a good replacement for these shaders??

[desert token]

I'm on linux trying to upload my avatar through the vrcsdk, but I keep getting a "Windows Security Check failed" 🙁

[somber meadow]

Did you install the Windows Build Module onto your Unity

[desert token]

I don't know what that is

[somber meadow]

Did you install Unity through Unity Hub

[desert token]

yes

[somber meadow]

What Unity editor version did you install

[wraith blaze]

Hey does anyone know how to hidee stuff on the 3D avatar preveiw?

(not this specifically just an example)

[desert token]

2022.3.22f1

[somber meadow]

open the installs tab of Unity Hub, click add modules in the settings of 2022.3.22, and add the windows build support module

[prisma frigate]

I don't think you can-

[desert token]

this one?

[somber meadow]

yes

[wraith blaze]

ughhh

that makes things so annoying

[prisma frigate]

It really is

[somber meadow]

It'll copy whatever state your avatar is in without the FX layer

so whatever your avatar looks like in the editor, it'll look like that in the preview

or iirc it could be the first state/frame of your FX layers

[wraith blaze]

thats annoying, is there an easy way to hide stuff thats ON by default (i want on by default) but hide it in the editor?

[somber meadow]

how're you doing toggles? manually or through something like VRCFury

[wraith blaze]

VRCfury object toggle

one thing is manualy bc it has to be

[somber meadow]

VRCFury object toggles don't mind what state the original object is in

as long as you're not using "Flip state", use either Turn On or Turn Off

[wraith blaze]

you think this would help? hehe

[somber meadow]

that wouldn't do anything, since it doesn't have a gameobject in it yet

[desert token]

thank you so much, it worked 😭
you have no idea how relieved I am lol, you are a lifesaver

[wraith blaze]

hmmm

because the specific object im trying to hide is an asset that toggled using all the complicated stuff idk how to change

[wraith blaze]

liar!!! it worked!

Hehe thx for the help

Though i still wonder how to change the little animation avatars have on that preveiw...

[somber meadow]

GoGoLoco should have a example of it

it has documentation teaching you how to change it if you use it as well

[wraith blaze]

wait

[wraith blaze]

just realized that it didnt work because the asset doesnt even work anymore 😭

wtv i found a dumb way to fix it

i just added another toggle for it and never applied it

[next leaf]

anyone mind looking into this w me? ive been struggling for the past 4 hours and i cant figure out why it does this

[somber sequoia]

weight painting.

you have some vertices there with no weights, or are painted to the wrong bones

[next leaf]

oh thats weird, i got the clothes from booth

[stuck glade]

tryna make a quest version of my avatar, why is the hair like this??? im using a quest shader too (new mat 1)

also, idk why its so dark...

[somber sequoia]

rough guess, vertex colors?

[stuck glade]

whuuut would this mean?

[somber sequoia]

it means the mesh itself has colors applied to some vertices, and quest-compatible shaders multiply the color by those color values

[stuck glade]

is there anything i can do to fix it?

[somber sequoia]

remove them. you can do it in Blender or I think VRC Quest Tools

again, if this is the issue.

[stuck glade]

fixed it witth VRCQuestTools, thanks!!

[somber sequoia]

ah excellent

[devout sentinel]

guys

im in prismic avatar search rn

i cant disable the android option

[charred ice]

can anyone help i keep getting this even tho i followed every step

[somber meadow]

Do you use any antivirus software other than Windows Defender

[charred ice]

I don’t think i even have one

[fervent spear]

hi guys is it ok to have my avatar scale set as this in unity or does it have to be set as 1? it doesnt seem to cause any problems with any of the animations

if i try setting it to 1 and resizing it in blender, all the physbones and colliders become weird and different sized

[somber meadow]

as long as scale is the same on every axis you're completely fine

[fervent spear]

ok thank you :D

[charred ice]

I have the regular windows

[rigid hemlock]

hello, does anyone know how I can fix my avatar's floor height? In play mode and in game it clips into the floor

[high rapids]

I'm following a tutorial and they say to go to scupting mode, but their model is fully colored in scuplting mode while mine is like this. What am I doing wrong?

[gilded turret]

How do i make a new animation without using "Create New Clip", and have it show up in the animation controller?

[patent flume]

help IDK why it import like this (faces)

[charred ice]

Anybody know this?

[dark jay]

Anyone know how i can fix the minor clipping in the bottom of the skirt cant seem to fix it , ive tried adjusting physbones, having colliders, making colliders bigger, having rotation contraints and parent constraints too it works except that little area

[prisma sedge]

Is it an existing animation? If so then just drag the animation into the animator window
If its not an already existing animation then you'll have to click on create new clip

[dark jay]

Oop the video didn't fully record

Let me redo it

heres the issue on the skirt

[gilded turret]

i got ittt c:

[dark jay]

Can anyone help

[rigid hemlock]

maybe try adjusting the gravity a bit on the physbones?

[dark jay]

So no gravy or more gravity

I have gravity at .1 offset at .1

[rigid hemlock]

sorry i'm not really sure it's just what i would try to tinker with to fix, someone else may have a better idea

i would do less gravity, but those values are already on the lower end

[distant sleet]

My avatar’s eyes and head are on the same mesh, but they don’t move together. Do the eyes actually need bones? If so, is there an easier way to fix or edit my avatar’s FBX without losing any elements, textures, or materials? Any advice on how to solve this?

[ornate stump]

Every part of mesh must be weight painted to some bone, either dedicated eye bone or just head bone. You have to setup material in blender. But material setup in blender doesn't reflect material in unity.

[hybrid rover]

Hey uh trying to work with custom eyes and all in Vroid studio and for some reason theres just.. this behind the eyes? I cant find what texture they are attached to, its the default male base model

[junior void]

well, this is vrchat avatar support

[hybrid rover]

Thats fair I was hoping someone may still know a thing or two

[rigid hemlock]

I have a bad case of feet in floor, anyone know how to fix?

[rigid nymph]

can someone help me?

[junior void]

why do you cut away so much

show us where the descriptor is located

[rigid nymph]

Descriptor is located in the avi, im trying to install something onto the avi with vrcfury but vrcfury says that the thing im trying to add is not connected to an object that has an avatar descriptor which i do

idk how much better i can explain it since its nsfw

[junior void]

"in the avi" could be anywhere, including on the body mesh

the descriptor should be on the root of the avatar

not on any object inside that

[rigid nymph]

yep its on the root

[rigid hemlock]

I fixed the feet in floor. Unity auto configures the hip height in the rig configuration so if the hip to feet ratio is unique it can calculate it wrong. Fix it by going into the rig configuration and raising the hips.

[balmy barn]

its wherever your fbx origin is , set that in blender

(tiny yellow dot)

vrchat locomotion also move your feet slightly down

try to keep ankle and origin same'ish place

[pale siren]

Does anyone know how I can get Warhammer base Avis and textures (sorry for asking)

[worn kiln]

#1138520828556890214

[foggy saffron]

Check the humanoid tab. If you don't have toes, your avatar will probably sink in there. Move your hip up a little.

Unity thing

[round comet]

(You’ll need to move your viewpoint most likely too as an FYI)

It’ll look fine in unity but in-game it may be off depending on how how much you move the hips

[dense gull]

Hello! I would like to ask how can you solve this problem of my tail being like this where it clips through my body when I go backwards?

[somber sequoia]

angle limiters on the physbone.

I use a curve, I'll lookup my actual numbers, but I go for less movement at the base and more at the tip

oh I thought I had a curve but this one is just set to max 45 degrees.

[dense gull]

did it solve it?

[somber sequoia]

yes

ah here we go, on my cat I do use a curve, it goes from about 5 to 45, with the most at the tip

[dense gull]

sorry wrong ping

thank you so much @somber sequoia

[round comet]

Np HAHA

[dense gull]

SORRY

wrong pinggg

sorry

[round comet]

We chillin

Also colliders can help too but angle limiters are def the easiest

[dense gull]

already set the colliders and gooders

[round comet]

i c i c

[somber sequoia]

yeah I try to not use colliders for this kind of thing, they don't work as well at ALL, and really, tails IRL are limited in how much they bend at each joint, so the limiter is quite realistic

[dense gull]

also I don't know if I can ask it here but which is better?

[round comet]

Oo I like the second one

[dense gull]

ayeee okay okay thank you thank you

[round comet]

Really brightens up the face. Makes the eyes look more lively

[somber sequoia]

the one without the characters

[dense gull]

Ooohh okayy okayy

what's your perspective on it?

[round comet]

Unless you make it a toggle :0

[dense gull]

ah yes

why not BOTH

it do be good

but

I am trying to set it up for vseeface

and like for my vtuber

lol

[round comet]

ooo

That makes it a harder decision then omg

Maybe the first for simplicity’s sake

[dense gull]

oki oki

[round comet]

As dope as the other ones look

[dense gull]

it do be getting out of topic but thank you guys!! ima get back on dealing with relationship issues with Unity

lol

[ornate stump]

You will have to consider mirroring problem because the character will be wrong way in one side.

[dense gull]

Oh yeah but it doesn't really bother me

okay now it bothers me

[somber sequoia]

can't unsee

[runic otter]

Hello, is there a way to fix head's mesh shadows in unity? It looks good in blender, but in unity is ugly

[ornate stump]

Have you set legacy blendshapes normals?

[runic otter]

Yes

[ornate stump]

Have you checked face orientation in blender?

[runic otter]

If ure asking, if they're inverted, then the faces all facing in the correct orientation

[ornate stump]

Does the material use normal map?

[runic otter]

Yes, but in this area, there's nothing

[ornate stump]

Check if the normal map texture is actually set as normal maps.

[runic otter]

Checked, it is set to "normal map". Also tried removing that normal map - nothing.

[ornate stump]

What is it look like if you change it to Standard shader?

[ornate stump]

How is the settings for the fbx file in unity import?

[runic otter]

Exported with something different blender export settings [new on the left*]

[ornate stump]

What something?

[runic otter]

Mmm? Can you clarify it?

[runic otter]

Changed this bit from "face"

[somber sequoia]

If you set this to "Face" you should import, not calculate face normals

(I do this)

[ornate stump]

The settings for fbx file in unity, screenshot it. Also Normal Only should be default export settings by blender.

[somber sequoia]

Clarified my message, I thought what you did was the opposite 🙂

[runic otter]

"that error is for image from blender, not important"

Hmm, changed normal to "calculate"

[ornate stump]

Don't change to calculate.

[runic otter]

And this is "import"

I think its all fixed now ^^

[ornate wasp]

Is there a way to fix this problem? The legs seem to have a clipping issue

[somber sequoia]

specifically which part do you mean?

[short shard]

so i made a material toggle but for some reason when i press play in veiwport the material changes from what it is when not in play mode how do i fix this

[somber sequoia]

probably your default is to have that material toggle active - perhaps set the default to false instead of true?

(or however you've defined on and off)

[short shard]

looks like that worked thanks

[sturdy urchin]

How do i Test physbones in Unity again? As in like stretch them and stuff-

i moved the camera to my ears went into play mode and hovered my mouse over my ear and tried moving it but nothing happend 😢

[ornate stump]

You just have to move the entire avatar.

[night ember]

only have one active camera in scene

[short shard]

whenever i use mobile standard shaders the avatar has a bunch of colors all over it

even withno textures

idk whats going on

[ornate stump]

Image for reference?

Probably vertex color.

[short shard]

how do i get rid of that?

[night ember]

blender

[somber sequoia]

or VRC Quest Tools

[round comet]

I do "Calculate" and "Unweighted" and it usually looks decent

[short shard]

okay thanks

[ornate stump]

Calculate would discard any custom normals made in blender so that's undesirable in those cases.

[round comet]

I see

I dont really do custom normals so it works out for me, but I guess it depends on the person

is that borgor

[spark walrus]

It's bushs' canned beans

[round comet]

LMAO

[teal field]

whats the best way to add skirts that already have their own bones/weightpaint? i can never figure it out and the skirt movement goes weird

[night ember]

you can join the armatures in blender then reparent/delete bones

[dark jay]

Can anyone here help with weight paints or help me fix leg bending issues im struggling

Heres the knee and part of the leg

[somber sequoia]

can you retake that but zoomed out more so we can get some better context?

ideally with wireframes on too, actually

I'm guessing it's mostly a topology issue but I'm not quite sure of the shape yet

[dark jay]

Im in unity

[somber sequoia]

don't be then

[dark jay]

And sure just give me a minute

[dark jay]

It shows the issue better in unity

[somber sequoia]

but not the topology

[dark jay]

How do i check topology

[somber sequoia]

show us that picture, slightly more zoomed out so we can see most of the leg, with wireframe on. It's an option in the view overlay in Blender, one of the upper-right icons in the Layout mode.

[tiny dock]

How do you people even make avatars omfg 🤦

[somber sequoia]

lots of time and experience?

[tiny dock]

And they don’t know how to check topology?

[somber sequoia]

oh I see what you're asking - it seems like most people learn only the bare minimum to get avatars into the game, however awful they end up. Not saying that's the case here, just general observation.
But like most things, if you've never needed a feature, you might not know about it.

[somber meadow]

You weren't born out the womb already knowing how to read and write? godddd

[dark jay]

like this?

[somber sequoia]

That's really hard to see with both legs on top of each other.

[dark jay]

whats wrong with not knowing hows to check topology? im not here making fully scratch models

[somber sequoia]

Maybe have one straight and one bent about 90 degrees so we can see both, then angle the view to try to not have them overlap.
Stuff like this is hard when you aren't actually working with the model.
But my assumption here is that the geometry around the knee is quite simple, and so it's just going to fold over unnaturally. it's hard to do make really realistic joints without a lot of polys.

[night ember]

wireframe and disabling the passthrough

[somber sequoia]

yeah that was what I was really asking for, not x-ray mode.

[night ember]

if you mean the stats then

theres a checkbox

[true lava]

how do I fix this so my arms don't get stuck held up when I turn this off?

[dark jay]

which checkbox

[somber sequoia]

Gotta run for a few though, will look when I get back

[night ember]

statistics

[night ember]

hows the arm movement being done

[true lava]

it's a blendtree with a bunch of different animations of the arm at different positions

I duplicated this blendtree and all of the animations for a second set where the wrist is rotated 90 degrees

it only breaks if I transition between those two blendtrees BEFORE turning it off

If I go to ONE blendtree, then turn it off, it turns off fine

ignore the red transitions those are muted

[night ember]

assuming there is a tracking control property somewhere in that

[true lava]

none

it's base layer

[night ember]

hows it moving the arm then

[true lava]

it's base layer + animating humanoid muscle bones

and it's restricted to only animate the arm

[somber meadow]

I would do this under the action layer, and using tracking control behaviors

[true lava]

using ....

[night ember]

write defaults or no

[true lava]

WD on

[night ember]

Id recommend doing this

cause like the puppet isnt resetting when you leave it

[true lava]

it's weird tho

because it does reset when it's only one of those blend trees

[night ember]

you have it masked so its always being influenced by it

Id recommend using the vrc tracking control property so when you are in the off state it can force it to tracking
and when its on you can force it to animate the hand

[true lava]

hmm, question about moving it to action layer

isn't action layer meant for emotes that override animations of the entire avatar?

[somber meadow]

would've been called the emote layer instead if it was the case, it's meant for things to override tracking in general, tracking behaviors can pick and choose what body part is either controlled from VR tracking/base layer or animations in the action layer

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors#animator-tracking-control

[true lava]

hmm

you know, that says there's an override for 'right hand'

does that mean the full arm?

[somber meadow]

yes as the IK will handle the full arm from the hand (unless you have an elbow tracker, but that's not there anyway)

[glass lotus]

I dont know if its Modular Avatar's doing or VRCFury but somethings changing my prefab to use Go/VRCEmote (Isnt even a parameter in any of my menus/param assets) instead of VRCEmote which has unsynced all of my dances to my texture changes

[night ember]

definitely fury

[somber sequoia]

ah yep, the geometry around the knees isn't going to bend very well. Weight painting will only get you partly there, you might have to retopologise to get it to bend nicer.

[glass lotus]

I cant even fix it, I tried changing the params to use Go/VRCEmote and now the audio wont play???

[somber sequoia]

vroid I'm guessing.

[glass lotus]

I put the audio enable in the same clip as the animation, confusing me

vrcfury on some wild stuff, saying 17 of my animations in additive dont have WD-on but I dont use additive?

[night ember]

clearly you do but you arent aware of it cause fuck fury

[tiny dock]

Needs an extra loop cut around the knee

[glass lotus]

Does VRCfury have a console or debugger that you might know of?

Because my console aint showing what I need to see

[balmy barn]

manual way super debug mode

[night ember]

it does fuck all to tell you what it does

[glass lotus]

lmao

[true lava]

alright, I tried it in the Action layer

it "fixes the pose reset issue"

but doing that causes my walking animations to go stiff when my hand is out, and yes I'm using the tracking control to try and keep it controlled by the IK except for that hand

[somber meadow]

what do your tracking controls look like on all your states in that pose system

[glass lotus]

found the issue, vrcfury was deleting my FX layers... solved it by getting rid of vrcfury

[night ember]

and all is right with the world

[true lava]

when turning on the headpat tool:

when going back to normal:

[night ember]

just leave them set to no change

[true lava]

that had the same problem

I just tried both

[glass lotus]

The headpat tool is for desktop users correct?

[true lava]

yes

[glass lotus]

You shouldnt need to change the tracking control if you put the animation in base right?

[true lava]

XD

that's how it was originally set up

but I had a different bug doing that

[glass lotus]

Animations overwriting it?

[true lava]

see this video

I have "two different" headpat tools I'm switching back and forth between

#avatar-help message

in isolation both of them work fine

but if I switch between them, it breaks somehow

[teal field]

thanks!!

[glass lotus]

This looks like a conflict of Write defaults

[true lava]

they are all ON according to vrlabs tool

[glass lotus]

And your not using vrcfury or modular avatar before uploading?

[true lava]

not using

[glass lotus]

Ok good, honestly I think you need to check the exit transition

[true lava]

nothing is using exit

[glass lotus]

Try using it

Have it exit the layer when your done using the headpat tool

[somber meadow]

exit just goes back to the default layer state

[true lava]

Arg, I was hoping that would fix it, but I got the same bug

[somber meadow]

Are those the only 2 tracking controls added

[true lava]

there is a duplicate of the first one for the other blendtree for the other headpat tool

so 3 total

[somber meadow]

and only use "No Change" unless the avatar needs those specific parts changed, which here is only the hand

[true lava]

when I did that, the legs still stopped moving

I guess because it's the action layer

[somber meadow]

Is there no other system that simply implements this non-destructively with VRCFury?

[true lava]

dunno, I'm not using VRCFury

[somber meadow]

so this is someone elses system entirely, or are you making it yourself

[true lava]

it's from VKet-chan, she comes with this headpat tool animation layer stuff....

ANYWAY I FIXED IT

I put a copy of my "Standing" locomotion in the empty spot, and now it's fine

[night ember]

you could probably copy and paste it to additive and see if it still fucks the legs

[willow tundra]

heyya, sorry to inturrupt, ive just started doing avatar work and my friends that were gonna help me learn havent been available. is there anyone who can help me? part of what im doing is also gonna be making pvp compatable avatars with warhammerpvp particles

[somber meadow]

I was gonna also advise a layer mask, but those usually tend to work horribly under WD On

[true lava]

I had a hunch it was something like this, but it wasn't making any sense to me...

because that arm pose it gets stuck in is the same as when you make an empty animation in unity and the player gets stuck under the floor in a weird pose

[night ember]

now what happens if you crouch

[true lava]

already got a mask :)

[true lava]

eek

[true lava]

okay it works perfectly fine!

well

this was certainly a weird bug

thanks for the advices everyone!

[somber meadow]

more that I look at it, it might've been better to maybe try the additive layer

action layers seem to actually take over the entire character

but I'm guessing it didn't work in the base layer cause WD on has issues with layer masks

[true lava]

you know, I've never gotten stuff in additive layer to work

I tried to do like a breathing animation like the documentation recommends

[somber meadow]

that would mainly be under FX

VRC's official documentation is pretty fucked

I mean they used to declare everyone use WD off for no reason for like 4 years until Senky (VRCFury dev) made a canny after the SDK started showing warnings for it

[true lava]

docs say FX is for non-transform tho... XD

aaaaa

they also say we should do FX stuff in gesture layer...

what does gesture layer even do lmao

[somber meadow]

hand finger muscle animations

that's it

[true lava]

lmao

[somber meadow]

I mean what would your breathing do?

Blendshapes? that's FX

[true lava]

nah

[somber meadow]

Moving a transform that's not apart of your rig anyway? FX

[true lava]

nah

[somber meadow]

like 98% of things just go to FX

[true lava]

I misnamed my 'breathing' animation as it's easier to say - the real animation is more like electrocuting my entire avatar and making it shake rapidly

[somber meadow]

it's all a mess anyway cause all the animators just get merged in the end

[dark jay]

how do i do that

[somber sequoia]

https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/modeling/meshes/tools/loop.html

if the geometry is such that you can't use the actual loop cut action, you can just subdivide edges/faces

[dark jay]

does the loop cut add more weight or

[somber sequoia]

no, it changes the geometry, you still have to weight paint normally

[rotund solstice]

Is there a way to copy a custom made model into a new project? I've tried exporting it as an fbx but it doesn't work and just dragging and dropping the prefab makes it invisible.

[willow tundra]

Does anyone here do pvp/warhammerpvp avatars? I need help making some things for some avis I'm making

[lilac orbit]

you can but you have to Export it as a Unity package with all dependencies (Assets → Export Package → Include Dependencies) and then import it into the new project.

[surreal salmon]

anyone know how to make animations loop with vrc furry?

[lilac orbit]

you'll have to explain the problem more

[vernal moss]

Soooo kind of a minor issue

On PC (the platform of choice for me) If I grab my chain weapon on my end, it works just fine, the physbones move fine and everything

But on quest its as if I didn't grab it at all

the physbones work for BOTH platforms, just when I grab it... it isn't synced up

so if one platform grabs it, the other platform doesn't see it being grabbed

Is there a fix to this?

[somber meadow]

You'll need to match the network IDs of the physbones, I think VRCQuestTools has something for this to make it simple

[vernal moss]

Oh dang, how do I do that, I've never done that before 😭

[somber meadow]

You can also just use what's built into the SDK, VRChat SDK > Utilities > Network ID Import and Export Utility

[vernal moss]

Okay I have the id thingy exported

now what? (sorry if I'm being a bother I just want this done right)

[somber meadow]

export the PC avatar's IDs, and import it into the Quest avatar with the same tool

[vernal moss]

Then just upload?

[somber meadow]

yep

[vernal moss]

Wow that was easier than I thought-

[candid trail]

can someone upload an avatar for me.. my pc and my mind just cant handle it

[lilac orbit]

well it's really risky to hand over someone your account details to upload avatar, and it can also get your account hack or banned

so it's better to learn how to do it

[worn kiln]

exactly

you only get scammer really

[lilac orbit]

looks like you had to delete a lot of letters

[worn kiln]

ask your friend who can trust be more realistic.

[flint goblet]

Is there any resources for transfering face tracking blendshapes to a custom (BUT same base) model

[lilac orbit]

you can use the Cats Blender Plugin to transfer shape keys (blendshapes) from the base model to your custom model.

[flint goblet]

cats has that?

ah this i suppose?

[lilac orbit]

Yes, that’s part of Cats Blender Plugin, but that panel is for merging armatures, not transferring blendshapes.

Use Cats → Model Options → Shape Key Transfer to copy blendshapes from the base model to your custom model.

[vernal moss]

It in fact did not work

😭

[flint goblet]

I dont seem to have a "model options" tab sadly

this is the newest unofficial cats

[somber meadow]

Did you regenerate the scene ids in the menu so it populates? Forgot to mention that

[lilac orbit]

In the newest unofficial Cats version, the Shape Key Transfer option is under Custom Model Creation or sometimes inside Mesh Options.

[vernal moss]

I did not-

Do you just wanna sit in a vc while I screenshare or nah?

[somber meadow]

https://creators.vrchat.com/worlds/udon/networking/network-id-utility/#network-id-import-and-export-utility

[vernal moss]

Cuz I have time

[somber meadow]

Here’s the documentation

[vernal moss]

Or that works

lol

Ahhh I saw an IMMEDIATE difference

[flint goblet]

I am sorry but do you mind taking a screenshot? I genuinely dont see that option in the custom model tab or even have a "mesh options" tab

[lilac orbit]

I think it's another method too

try this:
Use Blender’s Data Transfer modifier: add it to your custom mesh → select source mesh → enable Vertex Data → Shape Keys → Apply.

[flint goblet]

Either i am doing something very wrong or i just for some reason dont have half the options here

I dont see any "Shape key" option

[lilac orbit]

are you using Cats official plugin (0.19.0)?

[willow tundra]

Heyya, can anyone help me with particles?

[flint goblet]

Unofficial 4.5.2.0

Official cats wont run on this blender version

[lilac orbit]

that's why you're not see those options

[flint goblet]

https://github.com/Adjerry91/VRCFaceTracking-Templates/wiki/Custom-Face-Tracking-Avatar-Setups#mesh-data-transfer

Found itt

this worked

[sly wigeon]

hello guys! I dont seem to find any tutorials on making a four-armed character work on Unity. The program does not register the other set of arms, any tips or help?

[lilac orbit]

Unity and VRChat humanoid rigs only support two arms because they follow the Humanoid avatar definition (standard skeleton). The extra arms aren’t recognized because they’re outside that structure

[balmy barn]

constraint the other arms to follow the humanoid ones

[sly wigeon]

what can i do to fix this problem ?

[sly wigeon]

do i do the constraint to all the arms ir just the secondary arms

[balmy barn]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/constraints/vrc-rotation-constraint

[sly wigeon]

i see

[lilac orbit]

only secondary

[sly wigeon]

sweet

i assume in the constraint i put the first set of arms right?

as for whats its constrained to

[lilac orbit]

yes

[sly wigeon]

ok

and one more thing

i still use humanoid right?

[lilac orbit]

Yes, keep the rig as Humanoid

[candid turret]

does anyone know of a shader i can use to put a rendertexture on? like to change the view point?

been looking but can't find anything

[sly wigeon]

i used outomatic weights for the skeleton in Blender, would it be wise to re-name them something else instead of Arm.002 for example

[lilac orbit]

Yes, it’s a good idea to rename the extra arm bones so they’re not confused with the main Humanoid bones.

[candid turret]

like just a screen shader shader that just takes over the screen. like that type of stuff you'd see on annoying crashers and stuff

and not cancerspace

[sly wigeon]

got any suggestions on the best way the system can comprehend?

[lilac orbit]

you can use names that avoid humanoid keywords but are still descriptive for constraints and animations.

[valid fable]

gogoloco is not showing please help

[sly wigeon]

i see, thank you very much for the help! ^^

[somber meadow]

how're you applying it to your avatar

[valid fable]

i dont know

by using vrfury

[somber meadow]

do you have VRCFury imported in the project, and did you drag one of the GoGoLoco VRCFury prefabs onto the avatar

[valid fable]

yes i drag gogoloco vrcfury

[willow tundra]

Does anyone here know particles?

[willow tundra]

I need help making weapon particles

[lilac orbit]

you can just explain your problem here if anyone know a fix they will answer

[willow tundra]

I just have no idea what I'm doing. I'm trying to make pvp avatars but I dunno how to make damage particles or how to make my guns shoot with gestures. The people I know who can do it are currently unavailable so I figured I would ask here

[tame badge]

Feet and ground level clearly shown in unity.

Why is VR Chat playing pretend that they are in my socks?

[somber meadow]

Does the Unity rig configurator show the same

[unborn meteor]

I'm having an issue syncing up animations on my avatar. Basically, I have a sword in a sheathe, that can grabbed by making a fist gesture while the hand is inside a contact receiver at the handle. While in hand, it can be dropped in world and then picked back up. But it doesn't seem to sync correctly between users. And I was wondering what was the best way to handle this so the state of the sword is always correct?

[olive pelican]

You'll need two layers, first layer is all the controls, which sets an INT param, which is synced. Second layer checks for the INT changing, and applies the animation. That will fix 90% of your sync issues.

I am unsure if current tech for world constraints includes late join in a performant way, but there does exist a less performant late join world constraint, google it, it's a github thing.

[unborn meteor]

Okay so for that first layer, the animations are blank, and just control the params?

[olive pelican]

Yep. It's called Controller-Driver, and it lets you do lots of cool stuff.

[tame badge]

Yes, the feet are in the feet

[olive pelican]

IIRC the issue is that the bones in unity are based on points, not sticks, so where your ankle is, is where your "floor" ends up.

Anyone else can correct me on that, but the solution I've seen is adding a single bone that has it's start point/head at the floor

[surreal salmon]

im trying to loop a animation using vrc furry but dont know how

basically im trying to make a button toggle that repeats the animation till its turned off

[unborn meteor]

Just want to check that the animation states in the first layer are using the parameter driver to set the int and all the transitions in the second layer are based on that int?

[surreal salmon]

anyone have any advice?

[olive pelican]

I'd ask the VRCFury discord as that's a whole ass package of stuff that isn't official.

[olive pelican]

Yep! I tend to make the transitions for the first layer have zero transition or exit time unless I'm doing something with timeouts or delays (for stuff like double-clicks and whatnot)

[unborn meteor]

okay! Just testing with gesture manager it seems to all be working as expected! I'll be able to test in game with other another time but for now thank you very much!

[queen isle]

I am using VRC Animator Play Audio. I attach the souce to the object where sound is meant to play from. The object gets toggled on and off. After toggling the object on, playing a sound effect, and it works, great! However, toggling the object off and on again makes it play the sound effect even though it's not supposed to do that at all. Any suggestions on a fix?

[somber meadow]

Disable play on awake in the audio source

[queen isle]

The one thing I didn't check! Let me see now

[tame badge]

It was to do with rig configeration, just something else. ❤️

[civic cliff]

I tried changing my hand gestures, not the facial animations, but the hands themselves, and when i changed the animations around and put the new animation into the controller, nothing changed.

i cant find documentation as to why

[somber meadow]

Are you changing them in the gesture layer in your avatar descriptor?

FX doesn't effect muscle animations

[civic cliff]

i went to playable layers and clicked on "Kikyo_Gesture"

in the gestures tab

what if i used the default vrchat gesture animator instead

[teal steppe]

does a model need to be in a perfect t-pose to work properly

[somber meadow]

As long as it's in a standard pose like an A-Pose or a T-Pose, Unity will adjust the rest

[teal steppe]

so this would be fine?

[civic cliff]

for the record i tried it and nothing changed

idk how nothing is gonna change when i literally replaced the entire thing

since thats not the solution though i switched it back

[brave idol]

little help

please

idk how to tie it to the rig

aka the avatar

[quiet hemlock]

hihiiii all - i'm trying to add a global brightness/hue/saturation slider to my avatar so I can essentially pre-color grade my avi while doing photo shoots etc.

what's the easiest way to do this? any tools/unity plugins I should be aware of that'd take care of this in a few clicks?
surely it's been done before and I don't need to tediously sift through every single material and link up the lighting / saturation settings to a toggle .... right?? right?????

I use liltoon. also curious if there's anything that would easily work for a mix of toon + poi though.
thanks in advanceeeeeee 🥺 🙏 mention meeee if there's a reply so I can see the pingggg tyyyy

[sour sparrow]

how can I make it so my particle system appears behind my avatar?

[civic cliff]

VRC fury would probably help but im no expert and havent done that before, i just know that toggles are a hell of alot easier with fury

[civic cliff]

@quiet hemlock forgot to do the ping part oops

[wraith blaze]

anyone know wth this little thing is i see it in my projects sometimes and have no clue where it comes from, scared to delete it

it has nothing under the inspector

[quiet hemlock]

yeah! that's what I've been thinking o: thank youu.
i was hoping one of those avi optimization tools out there had a 'wowie global lighting' button 😆 but if all else fails, vrcfury was definitely on my minddd 🙏

[shadow blade]

Hey guys, I was wondering if any of you have seen a completed version of Graveteeth’s N model, the one they sell is broken and or really hard to set up because it doesn’t have any unity stuff, it’s all blender.

[civic cliff]

im in hell, i wouldnt wish this on my worst enemy, nothing makes sense

[wraith blaze]

just imagine if unity was as easy as scratch or something... if would be heaven

now that i think about it it literally is

theres just even more stuff to play with

[civic cliff]

this specific problem im having is so niche that i cant find literally anything on the internet to fix it

i think i literally just have to give up

[valid fable]

i need help with setting gogoloco script and wd

[past burrow]

Currently transfering physbones to an edited blendshape and running into an issue. The original wings have 4 physbone elements while the copied only has 3 although they have identical settings. Any Idea what I should do to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

did you export from Blender? Was it previously exported with leaf bones but this time you didn't?

[past burrow]

Just double checked I exported it with "add leaf bones"

[somber sequoia]

maybe increase the Y endpoint position by about .1

[past burrow]

for the final bone?

[somber sequoia]

no in the physbone component

[past burrow]

Derp

[past burrow]

definetly helped... Assuming I need to add a few zeros to the decimal

[somber sequoia]

it's length, so maybe. But if you're going into teeny values for physbones, it means you didn't export from Blender with Apply scalings set to "FBX All", so everything is scaled weird.

[past burrow]

Noted

Thank you for all the help

Had to set it to 0.0049 but explains why the scale shows as 100 instead of 1

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's why

[solid arrow]

could anyone help me with why my avator legs is doing this

[wraith blaze]

Guys i need help i need to add an animation to the off state of a toggle, how can i do this?

I'm using VRCFury

PLS ive been at this for hours and GPT is so dumb and just keep rambling on stuff that doesnt even exist!

[snow monolith]

anybody know how to make it so overlapping vertices have separate weights? trying to weight paint some paws rn and if i make them too round, the weight painting will pick up on the other fingers and i won't be able to separate them. but if i make them to skinny, they start looking too human.

essentially: how do i separate the weight of each finger from the others when the mesh itself overlaps? would using vertex groups while WP'ing work?

[solid arrow]

are you using blkender

[snow monolith]

yeah

[solid arrow]

in edit mode of the mesh, u can hide certian vertexs

[snow monolith]

wait for real

[solid arrow]

select then h

[somber sequoia]

tab to edit mode, hide stuff, tab back to weight paint mode

[solid arrow]

once hidden, it cant be affect in weight paint mode

[snow monolith]

thanks!!! i'll try it out

[solid arrow]

also alt h to un hide

[ruby summit]

is there any way to export my avatar from unity to blender? i wanna make a fbx variant with all his clothes already to make renders but each time i tried myself the clothes etc had different sizes

[somber sequoia]

import the existing fbx into blender, no real need to export from unity

[ruby summit]

the thing is i made changes IN unity

[somber sequoia]

there will probably be some setup work, certainly making materials, possibly joining things

[ruby summit]

like changing bone sizes to make the mesh match my size

[somber sequoia]

yeah that won't really make it to blender well

[ruby summit]

yeah i will try tomorrow anyway, its almost 5am

ill try to find all separated and export slowly each piece

[wraith blaze]

please

Bro someone help it cant be that hard please 😭

[snow monolith]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/1ilrnm7/im_trying_to_make_a_toggle_on_a_avatar_with/
https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/19fkbcn/all_off_toggle/

do either of these help

[wraith blaze]

i’ll see, thanks in advance

[snow monolith]

np

gpt is just getting its answers from reddit so might as well go to the source and get something straightforward

[wraith blaze]

okay, neither of them help… atp I’m stuck because i even tried making a toggle manually and stuff, but it never worked because it would just get stuck in the on position and couldn’t get toggled, i even tried going to the generated toggle fx and adding the animation there, still didn’t work as VRCFury overwrites it back to how it wants to be

i’m literally like at an impass

I’ve been at this for like four hours 😭

[wraith blaze]

OH my godd.... just figured it out.

its this.

[snow monolith]

glad you figured it out!

[wraith blaze]

Tyyy

someone just so happened to make a youtube tutorial on exactly what i was doing so i found it out that way

[naive kelp]

could anyone help me with texturizing this avatar correctly

[ornate stump]

Pink material means you haven't import the shader package it's using

[naive kelp]

ok thank you

[tribal bane]

in unity i have backface culling turned off on a skirt and it works in unity but for some reason in vrchat it seems to still be seethrough on the inside. does anyone have a clue why this would be happening?