avatar-help

[hearty gazelle]

Wait nvm I fixed it

[hearty gazelle]

Ok so whenever I try to upload my avatar now it says build failed

[ornate stump]

You had missing scripts in your objects.

[hearty gazelle]

What scripts is it I need in my objects

Just wondering

[ornate stump]

Should be read from the page where you download your avatar from.

[hearty gazelle]

Ok

Also do I need to worry about any of these alerts

[ornate stump]

The 🛑 one definitely.

[hearty gazelle]

Ok

Also how do I reduce the transforms for vrcphysbone

[ornate stump]

Remove less necessary physbone component.

[hearty gazelle]

Is 29527 triangles good for quest or no?

[ornate stump]

It's in VeryPoor perf but practically good enough.

[hearty gazelle]

Ok

[glass lotus]

Anyone know how to go about fixing this

Somehow its showing 36 MBs but the size profiler says 8.5 MBs and the FBX in file explorer is 14.1 MBs

[ornate stump]

What did you use to check the size?

[glass lotus]

Markcreator's Size Profiler

[rough crow]

i have another problem.

it says that something im putting on my avatar has an animated clip.

there is 0 animation anywhere.

[ornate stump]

Try using other size viewer. Try vrcworld toolkits from vcc.

[glass lotus]

That works with avatars?

[ornate stump]

You should always post the exact detail of what's saying.

[ornate stump]

Of course.

[native cairn]

should I just delete them?

[ornate stump]

Simply deleting it may causes issue if there is weight painting to those bones.

[rough crow]

it's saying "These paths are animated in this clip, but not found in your avatar! Thus, they won't do anything." if thats what you mean.

[glass lotus]

It still shows 36.4 MBs on the world debugger

[ornate stump]

You can see its detail of what's taking up the size.

[glass lotus]

where?

[ornate stump]

Build Report.

[glass lotus]

now im extra confused... the .fbx says its taking 74.3 MBs in the build report

also this is way better then size profiler

[ornate stump]

Have you set Legacy Blendshape Normals in the fbx file settings?

[rough crow]

nvm, i figured it out.

[glass lotus]

Its off on the fbx file

[ornate stump]

It has to be On.

[glass lotus]

Comes up with mesh has no smoothing groups

Should I try to upload?

[ornate stump]

You could ignore that if it doesn't affect anything visually.

[glass lotus]

Oh shoot that worked

Its uploading

Thanks

[rough crow]

alr...more problems. i love unity sm.

avatar doesn't want to actually upload.

[ornate stump]

See errors in console.

[rough crow]

im looking, there's the bright red ones. i know those are very important.

says i need an animator.

[glass lotus]

uh odd question, why when I open vrchat sdk the ears shrink?

[ornate stump]

Do you have one at the avatar root object?

[rough crow]

from what i see, no.

not at all.

[ornate stump]

It's a component of your avatar game object.

[ornate stump]

What did you mean by "open vrchat sdk"?

[glass lotus]

I open the sdk anytime I wanna upload because the window doesnt update if I keep it open

Thats so strange

[ornate stump]

So you mean opening the sdk panel. The ears just shrink right after the sdk panel show up?

[glass lotus]

Ill record it rq

[glass lotus]

yes

[rough crow]

how do i get it?

[ornate stump]

Have you set your avatar model as humanoid rig?

[glass lotus]

I keep using pumkin's avatar tools to reset the transforms back to the original model

[ornate stump]

Yes that's strange. I have no information on that.

[glass lotus]

Imma try to save the project, close and reopen

[rough crow]

i honestly have no clue on how to do that.

wait.

found it.

[ornate stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRAnDMUbWt8

[glass lotus]

That fixed it, weird

[hearty gazelle]

So I tried uploading again I clicked ok and this happened

Should I just like get rid of this toggle I wanted to add or just keep it cause I can’t think of any other reason why it’s not uploading

[ornate stump]

You still had Missing Script in your avatar.

[hearty gazelle]

Where can I add the missing script in

[ornate stump]

It's showing right there in your screenshot

[hearty gazelle]

Oh ok do I get rid of that missing script or just like try to find that script

[ornate stump]

If you made avatar yourself then you would have to delete it.

[hearty gazelle]

Yea I made the avatar myself

So I would have to delete that script?

[ornate stump]

Delete it.

[hearty gazelle]

Ok

So it still says build failed

[ornate stump]

Your VRM addon seems to be breaking your project.

[hearty gazelle]

The avatar itself or the add on?

[ornate stump]

Your VRM addon

[hearty gazelle]

Oh ok yea I’ll get rid of it then

[rough crow]

okay, it said that my avatar was uploaded...where can i find it so that i can wear it?

[ornate stump]

"Uploaded" category in avatar menu.

[rough crow]

its not there.

[ornate stump]

Check in the website and see if the avatar show up in your avatar list.

[glass lotus]

reopen vrchat and see if the uploaded tab comes up

[rough crow]

oh

[rough crow]

its there!

tysm for helping!!

[ornate stump]

It's there as in game or in website?

[rough crow]

the website

..and..it shows the error robot...ohhhh what happened now...

[ornate stump]

Then it's security check failed.

[hearty gazelle]

Ok got rid of the add on but it still not uploading

[rough crow]

what do i have to do?

[ornate stump]

Check if some aspect of your avatar overly exceeding performance list. And try uploading again.

[ornate stump]

Always "Check Console".

[hearty gazelle]

Ok this is what it shows on my console

[rough crow]

isnt there something supossed to be here?

[ornate stump]

You still haven't removed vrm addon though.

[hearty gazelle]

Where do I find the vrm addons at

[ornate stump]

Likely remove via unity Package Manager.

[ornate stump]

Performance list is shown in the sdk build panel in unity.

[hearty gazelle]

Ok I’m gonna save my work first then try to remove it n see if it’ll work

[rough crow]

how do i fix these?

[ornate stump]

Your avatar seem to be too large in dimension.

[rough crow]

do i rescale it?

[balmy barn]

cube check, make one in unity compare it to your avatar

[ornate stump]

Do you know the avatar size?

[rough crow]

nope.

i think this is the scale.

or

the size.

[ornate stump]

Create a new Cube object and use it as reference scale. Default Cube is size 1x1x1 meter.

[ornate stump]

Scale is relative so the numbers themselves doesn't say anything.

[hearty gazelle]

I think I may have found the source but don’t know what’s the cause or how to resolve this issue

Of what’s causing me to not upload my avatar

I think at least

[rough crow]

alr maybe this is too big.

[ornate stump]

Remove VRM Converter as well.

[hearty gazelle]

Ok

[ornate stump]

It definitely is.

[hearty gazelle]

Want me to remove anything vrm related?

Or just the vrm converter

[rough crow]

is this better?

[ornate stump]

Probably.

[ornate stump]

Anything VRM relates.

[hearty gazelle]

Ok

[rough crow]

do i go ahead and republish?

[ornate stump]

Try it.

[rough crow]

this still shows in the build.

[uncut lotus]

Oh, ok. I was messing with the gravity and wasn't getting any results I was happy with.

[ornate stump]

You see the numbers are smaller than before so might just have to try it.

[rough crow]

still the error robot.

and no animations.

even though i made the rig humanoid.

[ornate stump]

I'm not sure how roblox model can be interpreted as humanoid rig though. How did you set it?

[rough crow]

i've seen people make R6 rigs work so well.

[hearty gazelle]

It might work now try it

[rough crow]

my rig only has 6 body parts.

[rough crow]

ah.

[glass lotus]

You can make fake bones

[ornate stump]

Your model is just invalid for humanoid.

[rough crow]

then how do i give it animations?

[glass lotus]

Not true, go into blender and subdivide some of the arm and leg bones

[ornate stump]

You can guide them to do that.

[glass lotus]

I dont like guiding people on blender. I go too fast

[rough crow]

so...do i need blender in order to make the rig have animations, and be a humanoid rig?

[glass lotus]

Does it not have an armature?

[rough crow]

i actually dont know...

[ornate stump]

If it isn't humanoid or you edit the model in blender to make it humanoid compatible, then other method are going to be too advanced for you.

[rough crow]

let me check.

[glass lotus]

I just went back to check the images, no it doesnt have a single bone in it

[rough crow]

it does NOT have an armature.

it sounds like i'll really need that.

am i gonna need the armature to parent the body parts to the torso?

[hearty gazelle]

Ok it worked

I had to remove the weapon as well I add that on her later

[glass lotus]

do you plan to use it in vr or desktop

[rough crow]

both.

[glass lotus]

Then you need to rig the avatar

[rough crow]

but the thing is that my model can't be a humanoid rig due to the lack of bones.

[glass lotus]

Yes so you need to add bones in blender

[rough crow]

installing blender rn

[pine valley]

It's going to take some time to learn to rig.

Although, you can probably get acceptable results very quickly with automatic weights

it'll just be...wonky

[glass lotus]

For what they want it wont be that hard

[pine valley]

Ah, I see; it's a roblox character

in that case, each vertex will be weighted to one bone, which simplifies things a lot

you'll still need to learn the controls tho

[rough crow]

its the simplest model i can get..

[glass lotus]

Roblox auto exports each limb as its own mesh

[rough crow]

idk if thats a good thing or a bad thing.

[glass lotus]

Its a good thing for weightpainting

[rough crow]

and i think i need blender for weightpainting?

[junior void]

yes

[pine valley]

Each vertex in your model (each "point") needs to know which bones to follow

Weight painting is how you define that

For organic models, each vertex will follow multiple bones

for hard surfaces, you don't need that: each vertex follows one bone. there's no stretching

[rough crow]

i see.

so, do i just weightpaint over everything?

or no?

[ornate stump]

Every vertex must be weight painted to some bone.

[rough crow]

how will it be painted to bone if there is no bones?

oh wait..

it only has 1 bone.

[ornate stump]

You add armature and bones obviously.

[rough crow]

right right

[rough crow]

how many bones do i need again?

blender is like teaching a baby how to do build a rocket.

i believe its one bone per part?

[pine valley]

that's the idea

[rough crow]

i think i did it correct.

since its all an r6 rig.

[pine valley]

note that Unity has some rules for humanoid rigs that you'll need to follow

notably, you need at least a hip and a spine bone

[rough crow]

ohhhh.

[glass lotus]

I finally realize why ios is always slightly bigger then android builds, ios includes the ToonStandard.shader in the build at 359.1 KBs instead of 5.0 KBs

[pine valley]

I bet you can find another example of a humanoid-rigged roblox model to look at

[rough crow]

kinda like this!

[surreal silo]

helloo , im looking for good recourses for vrc character creation , i already know my way in blender but couldn't find any up-to-date tutorials about the process , especially the vrc specific rigging process and uploading to unity and vrc, :/
soo is it fine if i follow old ones ? or how dose that work. thankssss :3

[glass lotus]

@ornate stump what besides Legacy Blend Shape Normals can I enable to make the avatar smaller without losing quality?

[low socket]

guys does anyone have any avatar recommendations

[pine valley]

there's nothing really vrc-specific when it comes to rigging

i know that the SDK complains about the angle between my hip and leg bones

so maybe that counts

[ornate stump]

All will lose quality in some way.

[surreal silo]

wait so im free to do bones as i pleas ?

[glass lotus]

Even Legacy Blend Shape Normals does?

[pine valley]

if you want to use a Humanoid rig, then you'll need to follow Unity's rules for humanoid rigs, of course

[pine valley]

You need to understand what's contributing to your download size first!

[ornate stump]

That case doesn't have effect but rather it's using wrong mesh generation that unnecessary bloat the size.

[pine valley]

the VRWorldToolkit package (which is in the "curated" list in the VCC) can show you all of the assets that your avatar is using

(it's not just for worlds)

[glass lotus]

Yes yes Irumi showed me that but it still kinda gets me confused

[surreal silo]

no tutorials or guides that you can recommend about vrc creation in general ?

[rough crow]

did i do it correctly?

[glass lotus]

Like the FBX for this other project is 14.7 MBs in the world debugger and the other assets arent that big but it shows as 9.9 MBs in the build size

[rough crow]

soo...no?

[pine valley]

The sizes you see in the world debugger are pre-compression

So the numbers won't add up

[glass lotus]

Wish it did add up, that would help a lot to know if im in the range

I mean im very close to the edge lmao

[pine valley]

15MB is a pretty big mesh.

[glass lotus]

Just wish iOS had ToonStandard.shader built in

[pine valley]

Can you show the inspector for the actual mesh asset? Look in the project window for the sub-asset with a grid icon

e.g.

[glass lotus]

it made up of a lot of meshes and in file explorer it comes up to 9.12 MBs

[pine valley]

the imported size will differ from the on-disk size

unity has some internal format for meshes; it does not directly use the FBX format

[glass lotus]

If an animation is on the .fbx file does it get published with the model or does it get discarded when its not being used in any controller

[pine valley]

Unity produces a bunch of assets from the FBX file, including Mesh and AnimationClip assets

If an asset isn't referenced by anything on your avatar, it will not be included in the build

[rough crow]

how's this?

[pine valley]

your arm and leg bone chains are backwards

[rough crow]

i had a feeling something was off.

which arm and which leg?

or is it both?

[pine valley]

all of them

the thick end of each bone is the head; the thin end is the tail

[ornate stump]

Be taking care of bone direction.

[rough crow]

ohhhhh

[ornate stump]

Also better watch rigging tutorial video.

[rough crow]

is this better now?

this bone thing is somewhat fun.

[glass lotus]

Quest shouldnt have animated textures right?

[pine valley]

what do you mean by "animated textures"?

animating the UV offset?

[glass lotus]

The middle of this shirt has a gif in it

[rough crow]

i think the bones are set correctly.

[pine valley]

there's nothing stopping you from having a big texture with lots of frames on it and animating the UV offset

the texture might be unreasonably big for Quest, though

[glass lotus]

Fun, imma try it

[pine valley]

The animation might be annoying to create, since you can't use a custom shader that does the math for you

(e.g. poiyomi's flipbook)

[outer lily]

Hey, I've noticed when using VRC avatar parameter driver in the animator, you can push INTs past 255 locally, any good way to clamp that locally and automatically when doing add operations or do we just have to build in our own safeguards manually to prevent it from going over?

[glass lotus]

Like this?

[somber sequoia]

you'd have to put in checks for this

[pine valley]

Yep.

[native cairn]

Should I just ignore the error?

[pine valley]

the question is whether Toon Lit can do the same thing; I haven't used it yet

[outer lily]

Gotcha, so large add operations I'll just have to step down towards the limit and such.

[glass lotus]

Toon Standard

[native cairn]

What would happen if I ignore it

[pine valley]

ah right, Toon Standard

you can tell I haven't used it much :p

[glass lotus]

Its new and I love it

[hearty gazelle]

so i went to check my avatar to make sure everyhting works but my avatar walks foward and backwards funny is there a way i can fix it?

like is that have something to do with the colleiders?

just wondering

[somber sequoia]

maybe show a demo?

[rough crow]

so once im done with the rigging, what do i do?

[somber sequoia]

export it to unity

[hearty gazelle]

ok

i also do need help with lip syncing btw '

[somber sequoia]

you'll need to explain further

[hearty gazelle]

this is the problem im having with my avatar but dont know whtas causing it i think its probably the colleiders but idk

[hearty gazelle]

cause whenever i tried talking with this one the lips werent moving at all

[junior void]

the jiggle of your upper body suggests a physbone script around the hips or spine

[hearty gazelle]

ok so how do i resolve it do i move it to my chest instead?

[junior void]

you dont put physbone scripts on ANY humanoid bone

[hearty gazelle]

oh ok

thx

[somber sequoia]

Show us the visemes section of your avatar descriptor

[pine valley]

well, you can, but it gets very silly (:

i discovered that putting one on your neck makes your fullbody calibrator go bonkers

it positions itself relative to your head, but your head is spinning...

[somber sequoia]

it's an amusing party trick

[pine valley]

i now have it disabled by default

[hearty gazelle]

where do i find that

alsodo you put the colleiders on any humaniod bone?

[somber sequoia]

The avatar descriptor is on the root of your avatar

[hearty gazelle]

ok

is this it?

[somber sequoia]

looks good, yep

[hearty gazelle]

ok so whats my lip sync problem then cause the lip sync doesnt work for some reason on this avatar

[hearty gazelle]

just wondering

[junior void]

did you unmap the jaw

[hearty gazelle]

idk where do i check

[pine valley]

a humanoid jaw bone would have nothing to do with the blendshape-based visemes

Do you have a separate head object?

Make sure that the blendshapes on your "Body" object cause your face to move

[junior void]

Untrue, if you do not unmap the jaw from the rig, your mouth is stuck open slightly and visemes wont work

[pine valley]

why would it cause visemes to not work?

your mouth will be stuck open, yes

[hearty gazelle]

where can i unmap the jaw at?

[pine valley]

select your model in the Project window, go to the Rig tab in the inspector, and hit "Configure"

[hearty gazelle]

ok im there now

[pine valley]

on the right, you will see a human figure with some buttons: one of which is "Head". Click that. You'll see a list of bone mappings.

one of which is "Jaw"

e.g.

You can click on the property field and then hit backspace to clear it

[sweet crypt]

how do i fix this im confused?

[pine valley]

can you show the full text of the first error message?

[hearty gazelle]

so clear the jaw?

[pine valley]

the one talking about a dictionary

select the error and look at the bottom half of the console

you may need to expand the console window

[pine valley]

yeah

You often want to do that anyway. If you don't have a humanoid animation controlling your jaw, it'll get stuck halfway open

[hearty gazelle]

set it to none no?

[pine valley]

Yeah, it'll say "None" when there is no bone assigned

[pine valley]

you can then hit Done in the botomt right corner

[pine valley]

looks like the d4rk optimizer blew up

make sure that package is up to date. if it is, you've either got a problem with how you set it up

or you've found a bug that needs to be reported

(I have no experience with it myself)

[hearty gazelle]

so i set it to none then?

[sweet crypt]

tyyyy

[pine valley]

Yes, set the Jaw bone to "None"

[hearty gazelle]

ok

setted it to none also would you use the colleiders on humaniod bones or no?

just wondering

[pine valley]

I'm not sure what you're talking about

"colliders on humanoid bones"?

are you talking about physbone colliders, maybe?

[hearty gazelle]

yea the physbone colleider

[pine valley]

You can use those to make your physbones collide with your own body

They're commonly used for things like long hair

[hearty gazelle]

ok then what would i have set for the physbone colleider for my avatars long hair then?

[pine valley]

you would put the colliders on your body bones (notably, the Spine and Chest objects)

then you would go to your physbones and tell them to use those colliders

change the "Size" property to however many colliders you need, then drag the objects in

you can also click the circled dot on the right to pick a collider from the scene

[hearty gazelle]

and where do i find those parts at to add the colleiders?

[pine valley]

you mean, how do you find your spine bone?

it'll be somewhere under the Armature object in the hierarchy

probably Armature -> Hips -> Spine

[hearty gazelle]

ok and where do i go after the spine?

to i put on the physcbones?

do*

[pine valley]

you aren't attaching physbones to your spine. you're attaching the physbone collider to your spine

[hearty gazelle]

ohok

im at the spine now

[pine valley]

you need to attach a VRCPhysBoneCollider component to the Spine object. you can hit "Add Component" in the inspector and search for it by name

[hearty gazelle]

ok did it do i put the colleiders on eon chest one on the spine?

necause mine hair two long pigtails

has*

[pine valley]

One on each bone is good, so that you cover your entire body

but just one on the spine might be enough

[hearty gazelle]

ok is there anything i do to have the colleiders work

[pine valley]

yes, you have to tell each physbone to use the colliders

[hearty gazelle]

ok then where do i add the physbone at the spine and chest?

[pine valley]

no, you attach the physbone components to the hair bones (the first bone that should be moving)

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/physbones/

[hearty gazelle]

ok then

im gonna try adding the physc bone to the hairs i have the colliders added to

[somber sequoia]

you shouldn't need both physbones and colliders on the same bone chain though

if that's what you implied by that

[pine valley]

The colliders go on your spine and chest. The physbones go on your hair.

[hearty gazelle]

oh ok thx

i meant by ill add the physcbone colledier compenet to the spine and just but have the colleiders to attach on the hair

unless if this is wrong

[pine valley]

VRCPhysBoneCollider goes on your spine and chest
VRCPhysBone goes on your hair

[hearty gazelle]

ok]

[karmic spindle]

does anyone have a tutorial on how to make custom emotes like not putting them on a avatar but fully making them

[hearty gazelle]

got it fixed now

its better tysm

[lilac orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiD6tBJVvl8

[junior void]

oldder model with newer animations probably?

the old rex had the hip upside down so the older animations assume that orientation

you should check the tail animations then

[mossy ridge]

Would it be possible to change the gravity value of a physbone ingame with a radial puppet

[somber sequoia]

You'd have to disable the physbone component, update it, then re-enable. Which probably makes it reset weirdly.

[mossy ridge]

Would having two physbone components with different gravity values and being able to switch between the two be a better solution or would that just give me basically the same result

[hearty gazelle]

Yea so how do I get my characters mouth to move?

Cause idk what I did wrong for it to not be able to move

Just wondering

[tall needle]

I updated my GoGoLoco and now my characters hands are weirdly swaying when I move

Is there a fix for that?

[mossy ridge]

Did you add blendshapes or bones for it to open

[hearty gazelle]

Idk where I can do that at

[mossy ridge]

If you want to go with bones i CANNOT help you because i've never used those for lip syncing.
But if you want to go with blendshapes there are two ways of doing it
You can either
Have 1 blendshape that opens the mouth
OR
have 20~ish blendshapes to have more accurate lip syncing
Both of these need to be added in blender
If you want more accurate lip syncing i have a guide for which blendshapes you need and what they need to look like

[frigid knoll]

i know the person that made gogoloco is in here but they also got a discord u can ask in :3

[tall needle]

I'd appreciate it if you could invite me to it

[hearty gazelle]

Ok I’d like it very much

[frigid knoll]

i mean its on the gogoloco site under the community dropdown menu ;w;

[tall needle]

Oh is it?

[frigid knoll]

ye

gogoloco dot net :3

[mossy ridge]

dmed it to u

[somber sequoia]

we just discussed this like an hour ago

You even showed us that you have all the viseme blendshapes in the right place

[civic gull]

Yo can anyone help me with making my own Vrchat avatar i'm following all da steps and it won't let me create the project and add my avatar into it , i'm trying to make content

[somber sequoia]

Explain what you've done and what exactly is happening

[cedar grail]

is there a place i can ask for help with facetracking?

[somber sequoia]

there's a discord specifically for that, might be best. Otherwise generically here probably?

[cedar grail]

whats the discord?

[somber sequoia]

I don't recall offhand but it was easy to find when last I was there. possibly search with the term "VRCFT"

[hearty gazelle]

Ok so I did remove the bone for the jaw in the humanoid body

But there’s still a major problem

I booted up vr chat

But the lip syncing still isn’t working like the lips still isn’t moving

Idk what’s going on it

[zenith sparrow]

Today's Topic: Frame Time Detection.
My intuition tells me the parameters used should be synced due to it seemingly needing to measure the frames of remote players as well. Is this correct?

[hearty gazelle]

Anyone know how to fix this

Cause the lip sync still doesn’t work after doing this

[junior void]

Check which mesh its referencing

It should point to the mesh of the avatar in your scene, not to any meshes in your assets folders

[stray trench]

any ideas on this lighting between body and head mesh? both using poi 9.0, both using same shading and lighting, both using chest anchor override

[balmy barn]

got any emissions? (eyes ect) but no mask so it affect the entire thing

[stray trench]

i did find an emission, good catch. it did have a mask though, i ended up copying body material on the head and replacing the texture

[tall needle]

Anyone know why my arms are doing this? I've checked if it's connected to physbones, if there's some weird constraints, GoLoco, And nothing, I'm unsure if it's my model or not, But they've been swaying ever since I updated my avatars

[idle cloud]

Hi folks. Was adjusting a model and this happened. There was a top attached to it but i removed it. Have i maybe removed something i wasn't supposed to? Anyeone else had this happen before?

Looks perfectly fine in unity and blender.

[still shuttle]

If you go into play mode in unity, does it do the same thing?

[somber meadow]

You overwrote the avatar that doesn't match the FBX scaling of the original FBX. Either change your FBX scaling to "FBX All" in Blender's export settings, or go into the Unity rig configurator and reset pose, and enforce t-pose again. I'd recommend doing the first solution as you don't need to readjust radiuses of things like physbones and contacts

[still shuttle]

If yes = reset the rig from humanoid to generic to back to humanoid, ive found this can fix it a good majority of the time

I've also just hit the "reset rig" button and redid the config settings and it usually fixes it for me

[idle cloud]

looks fine when i hit play. I'll try what info you've offered. Thank you!

[still shuttle]

That's odd, definitely let us know what works for you as id love to hear the solution

[idle cloud]

The FBX Scaling fixed it!

Thank you for the help!

[hearty gazelle]

ah ok thx

[prisma plover]

nope :/ its likely a vrchat side problem that needs fixing

[hearty gazelle]

So these are the only meshes I got on scene

So like idk what to do really

[stuck oxide]

how can i select the chest bone if this is all i can see in the bone selection 😭 even stretching blender across both my monitors i cant see and and scrolling doesnt show me new bones

[somber sequoia]

what exactly are you trying to do here?

[hearty gazelle]

Like I’m so lost here

[somber sequoia]

it's really pixelated, not sure what this is

[stuck oxide]

parent the chest bone to the necklace bones/merge the armature

[somber sequoia]

the necklace bone probably should be a child of the chest, so other way around.

[stuck oxide]

i dont know how to merge it into the armature

i use cats but i cant see the bone im trying to merge it to

[somber sequoia]

if these are 100% new bones I'm not sure why you'd use cats, just select the new armature then the old and ctrl+j. Then edit it and select the necklace bone, and in the bone property box you can choose the chest bone as parent

(or you can select necklace bone then chest bone and ctrl+p but often that's harder than just typing 'chest' and picking it from the search results)

[stuck oxide]

because i already fitted it to the avatar and merging the bones completely undoes it

[pine valley]

you have to merge them in the right order

i always forget which way it is...

oh right, you're not merging the meshes, just the armatures

[slender pelican]

I got a question my game gives me this every time I speak one word:

Devs please help

[modern glen]

should i compress avatars

or does that break the model

or smth

[pine valley]

what does "compress" mean?

are you talking about the Mesh Compression setting in the model importer?

[modern glen]

yes

[hearty gazelle]

Anyone know what to do cause these are the only meshes I got for my scene for lip syncing and I’ve been stuck on this lip syncing thing for a while now

[pine valley]

Mesh compression will slightly decrease your download size, at the cost of making your mesh less accurate

You could consider it if you're really close to the upload size limit

[pine valley]

do the blendshapes on your Body object actually do anything?

select the Body and mess with the blendshape sliders in the inspector

[modern glen]

WELL ive been trying to upload my model to quest but it does not work

[pine valley]

do you get an error?

[hearty gazelle]

Where do I find the blendshapes sliders at

[pine valley]

select your Body object and look at the inspector

[modern glen]

no

[pine valley]

there will be a fold-out list of Blendshapes in the SkinnedMeshRenderer component

[modern glen]

i have my friend thats testing in his quest

and he says its incompatible

[pine valley]

is he seeing a specific error message?

[modern glen]

ill ask

[hearty gazelle]

Ok is there anything I’m supposed to be seeing here

[pine valley]

unfold the BlendShapes list.

[modern glen]

he says " when I go to equip it it says it's not supported for the platform"

[pine valley]

that suggests it never got uploaded for Android at all

[modern glen]

although im pretty sure i did everything correct

[somber sequoia]

I'm not really sure what that means

[hearty gazelle]

Ok there we go

[pine valley]

maybe they've posed the bones?

[modern glen]

wait i have to do that

shdit

shit

[pine valley]

yes, you have to upload separately for PC and Android (and iOS, which is still in beta, iirc)

[hearty gazelle]

So then what do I do next

[pine valley]

see if those sliders do anything to your model

notably, check the visemes

[hearty gazelle]

Ok

Yea they do do smth

Just don’t know what is going up with the lip sync

[somber sequoia]

dumb question but does your microphone work? 🙂

like you've checked other avatars, right?

[hearty gazelle]

Yea they work perfectly fine with other avatars

Like the lip sync works with other avatars

It’s just this one that hasn’t worked so far

Maybe it’s just bc I don’t have the quest yet but imma try uploading a windows only version to see if anything’s different

[somber sequoia]

wait, are you trying to use this with a quest but haven't uploaded a quest version?

[hearty gazelle]

I’m trying this with both a pc and quest version

Wait so does sleeping multi upload for the avatar for pc and android not work at all?

Just wondering

[willow canopy]

having the same issue and im going crazy. no material swaps; literally one single atlas'd material with channel packed maps under 2k. this avatar has always been medium at worst and now apparently its very poor. Thry's vram checker says 16.21 MiB (~17 MB), sdk says 194.04 MB???? this MUST be a bug 😭

[hearty gazelle]

Cause I need to know

[pine valley]

do you mean that it says 194MB in game, or is it showing that in the Control Panel too?

[willow canopy]

it seems to just be an sdk issue. after uploading, website and game says medium. not sure about the other person

[pine valley]

so it is saying 194MB in the control panel?

[dark jay]

how do I make a object like a wheelchair disappear after i get up from it with a animation without another off toggle
so like one animation is her in the chair the other is a getting out of the chair then chair despawns

[hearty gazelle]

Btw for the lip syncing to work do I need to move around the slider or how do I get this lip syncer to work in vr chat for both pc and quest

[somber sequoia]

what slider?

[pine valley]

i had him check if the blendshapes work at all

(they do)

VRChat controls those blendshape values based on your voice. You don't have to do anything else in the inspector after setting them up in the Avatar Descriptor.

[somber sequoia]

<@&397642795457970181>

[pine valley]

are you telling me that's not legitimate?!?

[worn kiln]

done

[pine valley]

😭

[somber sequoia]

As always, you are so fast at this 🙂

[worn kiln]

[somber sequoia]

disable the Game Object at whatever condition you like. This one is tricky 'cause how do you actually define "sitting"?

[pine valley]

you'd disable the chair as part of the animation

if you're trying to use a VRCFury toggle to activate and deactivate the object, it's going to be awkward to make that line up with an animation

[somber sequoia]

there IS actually a non-free prefab though that puts a chair under you when you sit in FBT, I believe it works with colliders. It's well done, you might just try that

[hearty gazelle]

ok i have it fixed now

[somber sequoia]

yay!

what'd you do?

[rough crow]

how many bones would this model have? i can't tell. it's a r6 roblox model.

ive seen so many r6 avatars and i just dont know how many bones there is.

it looks like one, because when i move my hand, the whole arm follows.

1 bone for each limb.

[somber sequoia]

Put it into Blender and look. Or open up the Armature object in your hierarchy and count everything under it

[rough crow]

alr, it looks correct. but since im new to all of this there is a chance im very wrong.

[somber sequoia]

that's not going to be humanoid for vrchat, but looks like a start

[rough crow]

do i need to add more bones?

[somber sequoia]

if you want it to be humanoid and thus use all the default animations for that, yep. Check the pinned image in #avatar-rigging

you'll need to split the neck/head, arms and legs and spine, and add shoulders

[dark jay]

ok i got tot the part of it working but how to i get the animation to turn off after without toggle clicking

[south veldt]

yo im trying to put the shaders on my avatar so I can use it on quest but it does something weird above the eyes

[dark jay]

does anyone know

[somber sequoia]

do you mean you want to turn off a parameter or something? maybe explain when this should happen

[dark jay]

so when at the end of the animation for her to get out of the chair she just gets stuck at a pose i want it to end without turning off the toggle in the menu

end as in no more animation after

[somber sequoia]

You can cause the menu toggle to turn off using VRC Avatar Parameter Driver

[dark jay]

can?

[somber sequoia]

hmm?

[dark jay]

how do i use the vrc avatar parameter driver

[somber sequoia]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#avatar-parameter-driver

[dark jay]

thanks

[somber sequoia]

stick it on an animation state

[south veldt]

can someone help

its something with the eyeline

[dark jay]

let me see if i can do it its my first time to have it toggle off

that way

[somber sequoia]

you haven't really provided us much to go on, maybe show a picture or something?

[south veldt]

ight hold on

[rough crow]

does this look better?

[dark jay]

where is vrc avatar parameter drive

[somber sequoia]

better, yes

[rough crow]

yay!

do i need to parent anything?

[somber sequoia]

oh - you need hands and feet bones, even if they aren't used for anything

[rough crow]

i have a feeling that i do.

[rough crow]

oh.

there!

do i need to do anything else?

do i need to add hip bones?

[somber sequoia]

you just need that root bone, usually it's called "hips" in vrchat. You don't need bones from there to the leg bones though.

[south veldt]

ok so here is with the regular shaders

[rough crow]

so no hip bone?

[south veldt]

here here is when I change it to the quest shaders

[somber sequoia]

I refer you again to that pinned diagram

[rough crow]

kk!

[somber sequoia]

so the model uses transparency and you can't do that on quest. There are tutorials on how to cut out mesh parts such as eyebrows and eyelashes.

[south veldt]

ok

@somber sequoia I cant figure out how to do it

Do I have to do it in blender?

[somber sequoia]

yep

[south veldt]

bruh

nvm fuck this im not doing allat

[brittle vault]

a friend of mine is having trouble importing an avatar into blender and keeps getting this error
then the model ends up with no materials, no blendshapes and doesn't have the armature attached
is it a problem with the importer?

[somber sequoia]

what kind of file is this? Do you know where it came from?

Blender doesn't do ASCII FBX files, maybe that's what you have

[brittle vault]

thats probably it
they said they were trying to import it from unity directly to blender

[night ember]

why didnt they just import the fbx that was already there? why did they try to use the fbx exporter

[somber sequoia]

don't export from Unity if you can help it, just use the model file that's already in the project.

[night ember]

whered they get the avatar

[brittle vault]

idk bro 😭

[night ember]

and why arent they here

[brittle vault]

aint got a clue

[brittle vault]

i believe they bought it from somewhere and just got a unity package

[somber sequoia]

probably still has a model file inside

[brittle vault]

probably

[rough crow]

i found a rigging plugin for blender and oh my god it really helped.

it made this 100x easier.

[somber sequoia]

that doesn't really look right for vrchat though.

[night ember]

that is not how you make a humanoid rig

[brittle vault]

was it rigify?

[rough crow]

yep!

[somber sequoia]

Rigify can be decent, yeah

[rough crow]

if there's things going wrong, i can try to fix it.

it's all just trial and error.

if i used that correctly..

[wispy phoenix]

I'm so confused XD I'm doing an avi for my friend tried uploading it and this happened...

[somber sequoia]

Side-effect error, scroll up in the console to find the real one, probably it's one of the first 2-3. Feel free to post them here.

[pine valley]

for some reason, that error is always logged if the avatar upload fails

[somber sequoia]

first one is the issue, "missing script"

You are missing some required package, check the avatar or props creator's documentation

[wispy phoenix]

Okay what do I look up?

[night ember]

the avatar you bought?

[pine valley]

it should come with some instructions

[wispy phoenix]

Well usually this message never pops up this is the first time i've ever had a problem with any script related which I dont even know where to go ;w;

[night ember]

whered you even get this avatar

[wispy phoenix]

It's a module.

[somber sequoia]

module?

as in Modular Avatar perhaps?

[night ember]

that doesnt answer my question

[somber sequoia]

(if so install that)

[onyx dust]

How do i create an avatar

[night ember]

that is incredibly vague

[iron badger]

Anyone with patience and time wanna guide me through setting up an avatar? much appreciated.

[rough crow]

uh oh.

[somber sequoia]

Same answer as this one: #avatar-help message

[onyx dust]

Real

How do you put SKIN

On a body

In unity

😭

[somber sequoia]

guessing you mean textures?

[onyx dust]

Yes

Please help😔

[somber sequoia]

you put those into a material and put the material into Mesh Renderers

[sweet crypt]

now back to fixin a diff avi. any ideas on rhw issue?

[somber sequoia]

those aren't useful, look above for the root cause error

[onyx dust]

Where do you find that? I’m new at this i have no clue what i’m doing

At all

And tutorials don’t help

[night ember]

scroll up?

[somber sequoia]

luckily there are many many tutorial videos. why don't they help?

[onyx dust]

Bc they are all abt VRoid😔

Not unity

[somber sequoia]

ideally to the top of this to try to find the root cause, but this looks like something wrong with an asset, it's not clear what though

[somber meadow]

enable "Collapse" at the top left to make the console more digestible

[somber sequoia]

seems like you're looking in the wrong place then

[onyx dust]

Guess google is a bad place too look

😔😔😔😔

[somber sequoia]

rough guess: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGgR_yXJ7nA

[dark jay]

Its been a while since ive done it but how do i animate a wheelchair wheel moving when i move, i dont have to have it move but just wanted to see

[somber sequoia]

I did skateboard wheels, basically made a looping animation with one revolution and then used the VelocityZ parameter as the speed for that animation

[dark jay]

Ah ok do i need physbones for it

[somber sequoia]

I don't see why

[dark jay]

So no?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure why you would use physbones here but maybe you have some other idea I don't know about. I didn't use any.

[dark jay]

I was thinking of like how people make tails move

[bitter crown]

for me, SDK and thry mateiral checker both say 95mb or so. but in game, suddenly 150mb. i have combed through every animation, there are no material swaps, so im at a loss.

[willow canopy]

huh, strange. im going to keep an eye out for discrepancies between sdk/thry/in game texture res

[bitter crown]

it would be very helpful if the sdk were updated to calculate things the same way as the game. would help me figure out wtf is going on

[willow canopy]

i think that was the goal of the last update, but it seems it has caused more issues 😭

[bitter crown]

the SDK never included material swaps in the calculations. the game didn't either till this last update, but i don't think they actually updated the SDK side of things

[somber sequoia]

what's that got to do with wheels though? Or are you trying to make them grabbable so you can push the chair forward?

[bitter crown]

i think the server-side processing is now counting a skybox texture that i'm using on 3 different materials 3 separate times instead of just counting it once. not sure if that is actually what happens in VRAM and therefore accurate to count it that way, or if that's a bug and the skybox is not actually triplicated in VRAM. i lowered the skybox resolution which saved about 20MB in unity, yet in game my vram usage went down 60MB.

[night ember]

each material renders individually even if its the same material or texture

[red socket]

can someone help me upload an avatar I'm having trouble

[bitter crown]

according to what i can find on google, when the same texture is used by multiple materials, the texture data is only loaded into vram once even though the materials themselves are rendered separately

[night ember]

you gotta be more specific

[night ember]

isnt how the material renders the texture also a part of vram

[bitter crown]

the game specifically says "texture memory"

and that is the number that is getting inflated for me

[night ember]

you could make a canny asking about it

[red socket]

i have an avatar i have unity and vcc and i dont know what to do i have tried to watch vidios but it is not what i see

[bitter crown]

for sure, i just did since i'm pretty sure this is a bug at this point. https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/texture-memory-discrepancy-sdk-vs-in-game-no-material-swaps

[somber sequoia]

more specific - exactly what thing are you trying to do and what is it not doing?

[prisma plover]

using a vpn fixed it. i recommend https://mullvad.net/en

[somber meadow]

you don't need to pay for a VPN if you're having ISP related issues with VRChat

just use cloudflare warp

[red socket]

im trying to upload an avatar that i can use in vr chat i cant get it exported from unity and i dont think the textures are right

[somber sequoia]

export from unity?

not sure why you want to do that

[red socket]

i was watching a video and that's what it told me to do

[somber sequoia]

huh, weird.

[red socket]

can i show you what i see?

[somber sequoia]

feel free to post images or videos in here

[rough crow]

can someone tell me what happened?

[somber sequoia]

it says there - chest bone not mapped, check your rig setup

[night ember]

you have no chest

[rough crow]

and im trying to figure out why.

[night ember]

add the bone to the list

[rough crow]

it shows that all bones are used.

there's not gray bones anywhere.

nor red bones.

[night ember]

then you never even added one

also your bones dont even look like they are weight painted

you require a full humanoid rig (albeit fingers are optional)

[rough crow]

how do i know if they're weightpainted or not? blender is hard.

[night ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fICQmBEt4Y

[rough crow]

alright, so my avatar works.

but for some reason it's facing backwards.

[red socket]

do you think you could help me?

[rough crow]

not really, im very new to blender and unity.

diven can help...if they're online.

[night ember]

scuse you

[night ember]

avatars always face -y in blender you probably have it flipped the wrong way

[red socket]

pls..

[night ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwMz4WcajQ

[ornate stump]

Just elaborate your problem and hope someone know the answer will respond.

[red socket]

i dont know how to do anything all the vids i watch dont help

[ornate stump]

It will be difficult for other people to help you asl well.

[ornate stump]

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495 Try reading something here and watching more video.

[exotic nexus]

Hello I'm currently making my own personal avatar for VRChat and I'd like to know how creators put animations on their characters as that's something I'm interested in doing

[night ember]

wdym animations

[exotic nexus]

I like dances or different walking animations

[night ember]

action layer, locomotion layer

[exotic nexus]

But where do people get like orange justice dance for their avatars

[sharp crater]

Where do people get fortnite animations to use in unity? I'm looking for https://fortnite.gg/cosmetics?id=18596

[rain wave]

how do we fix this chat?

[exotic nexus]

Oh I guess not

[night ember]

assuming you said that one site

that site is full of stolen and virus filled content

[rain wave]

I saw your deleted msg

[exotic nexus]

I won't get things from there

[rain wave]

only half of what u said is correct

[night ember]

all of what I said is correct

[rain wave]

you can if the creator of that asset themselves post that thing on there

[rain wave]

❌ WRONG

[exotic nexus]

If it's banned to be mentioned I wouldn't suggest supporting using it

Some servers are strict about that

[night ember]

not going to argue with that is clearly obvious

[rain wave]

🧍‍♀️ make your own choice, but it is against VRC TOS

[sharp crater]

sayin its riddled with virus is fearmongering, saying its stolen stuff is true (though someone did need to pay for it first)

[rain wave]

so uh someone help me fix this fr

[rain wave]

literally

[night ember]

it has content with viruses not that its riddled with it
filled with stolen yes

its not a site with actual moderation so anything can be uploaded

[rain wave]

again, the entire virus thing is straight up nonsense, Stolen assets tho, that's true.

only half of what you're saying is correct

[night ember]

go off

[sharp crater]

but anyways, idk how to fix your issue, i just want fortnite dances lol

[rain wave]

fair enough

[sharp crater]

https://fortnite.gg/cosmetics?id=18596 specifically this one

[rain wave]

sybau

[night ember]

you need to find someone that has ripped it
especially if its a less common emote

[night ember]

cry Ig

[sharp crater]

time to learn how to pull animations from ue5 lol

[rain wave]

this is like trying to explain to a game dev why piracy is better than buying their sh*t game

ermm... fortnite emotes are everywhere just look for them on like unity asset store or sum

[sharp crater]

"if buying isn't owning, pirating isn't stealing" - A smart person

[somber sequoia]

you still haven't explained anything, so it'll be hard for anyone to help you

Please don't ping me for new problems I'm not already helping you with.

[fossil arrow]

Anyone know this makeup and hair?

[ornate stump]

Finding assets should be asking in #1138520828556890214

[fossil arrow]

Sorry,thanks for that. I’ll post it there

[dense fractal]

help

im having a problem so

whenver i toggle one of my toggles

my hand of ,my avi remains stuck

and doesnt do anymore any peace sign

or animation on hands

after i toggle the toggle off

my fix write defaults vrcfury debugger says this

but i have no idea

if that has anything to do with it

can anyone help?

[ornate stump]

Try different Fix Mode.

[neon lichen]

hello, any1 have idea how to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

does it not show a button to accept the terms below? Scroll down if need be

[neon lichen]

nothing down there :(

[somber sequoia]

weird, never seen that

[somber meadow]

look in the console for spammed errors

[dense fractal]

apparentely

the gesture layer

is broken

somehow

because when i unequip it

the hands move

but it doesnt have any animation when i grab phone

on my avi

so....

[somber sequoia]

yeah if you remove your custom one, it'll use the default

[ornate stump]

Is that you make the toggle or the item yourself or it's a completed asset you downloaded?

[somber sequoia]

If you go in your gesture animator and set the layer weights all to 0, but one at time turn them to 1, you can narrow down which layer is the issue.

[dense fractal]

gesture animator in....in animator?

[somber sequoia]

gesture animation controller.

[dense fractal]

geture layer

[somber sequoia]

click on it and look in the animator window at the layers.

[dense fractal]

gesture

so

the animation that breaks

my finger tracking is the phone one

[somber sequoia]

oh good, that helps to know which one it is

[dense fractal]

i would know since when i toggle the phone it makes a custom grab anim but then i toggle it off

the fingers just remain stuck in a "grab" like positon

not allowing me to do peace sign ecc

[somber sequoia]

Probably got a dead-end in that animation layer

[dense fractal]

i have phone on and phone foff

off

phone fingers on

and fingers off

[royal dragon]

Does anyone know what this problem is? It’s followed me through EVERY project, and it keeps saying this, no matter the prefab, no matter the avatar, even if it’s PREMADE

[somber sequoia]

you'll have to fix a few of those errors, definitely the one about read/write meshes.

there should be an auto-fix for that one

[ornate stump]

This also.

[royal dragon]

I’m using a base and it still doesn’t work, let me see

[somber sequoia]

oh and the one about missing - yes, that

[somber meadow]

these 3 errors are responsible, you have a preprocess script like VRCFury, or modular avatar adding things with this

[royal dragon]

Let me try one second

Ah it worked, thanks

[dense fractal]

so

[royal dragon]

But that was for the vrc robot

[dense fractal]

i really dont have a clue

where to start

[royal dragon]

I need to try for my oc

[dense fractal]

with the troubleshooting of my fingers

no clue at all

im very tempted for now just to get rid of the gesture layer

completely

tbh

[somber sequoia]

you could show us the specific animation layer where the problem is

[dense fractal]

or

i can show you the problem with my hand

[ornate stump]

You might have to answer this first: Is that you make the object toggle or the item yourself or it's a completed asset you downloaded?

[somber sequoia]

that's what I meant

[dense fractal]

its not a pregab

prefab

[royal dragon]

Do I have to fix every error now?

[ornate stump]

Yes of course.

[ornate stump]

So you setup toggle by yourself?

[dense fractal]

so here

the model first ofc like intended the phone pick up toggle for example this is light on

and it does its job

BUT

when i disable it

the hand REMAINS

[royal dragon]

Oh there we go!

[dense fractal]

stuck

in that one

position

[somber sequoia]

an image of the hand is unfortunately not really going to be useful for us to help you fix a problem with the animation logic

[dense fractal]

forever

[royal dragon]

I’m going to try again with my oc, I’ll tell you guys if I need any help

[dense fractal]

this is the layers setup

[somber sequoia]

Do you have "can transition to self" in those anystate transitions? make sure that is off.

[dense fractal]

it was on..

omg

i swear of that was the proble..

m

[somber sequoia]

it definitely can be a problem

if not, I'd check the condition on the transition to off

[dense fractal]

that was the problem..

now the hand does the gestures normally..

im such dummy to have left that shit on..

[somber sequoia]

nice

[dense fractal]

a big thanks! cause several of my avis has the same problem so now i know what to do to fix em!

[dawn wharf]

Hello, I may just be too tired to recognize how this is don but, how do I change the "More" menu icon?

I have VRCFury but the only option I am seeing is to override the "Next" menu icon...

Thank you in advance

[dense fractal]

why the hell removing something from my avi makes the avi 40 mb

wtf

unity sucks

[dawn wharf]

It was right in my face, I needed to tell the path of the menu "Next/More" override icon

[dense fractal]

like bro

wtf i do

[dawn wharf]

You could possibly lower the topology or materials within the item

[dense fractal]

how

?

how do i do it

no clue how to

[dawn wharf]

Do you know how to add packages to VCC? There is an add-on that decimates items for Quest

[dense fractal]

is that vrc quest tools

?

like idfk

whats going on with this mf

but this all seems bs

before it says 10 17

then 40

like unity tell me where tf you get 40 MB

out of a fucking QUEST PREFAB

made for quest

like bro..

[dawn wharf]

^^;

[dense fractal]

im getting tired of this shit fr

if anything il just leave the avi not quest compatible

ig

[dawn wharf]

Might be time to take a little break... or a step back perhaps

[dense fractal]

or

just forget about quest entirely

since vrchat devs have monkey brains to NOT put a damn good fucking avi size to at least 30 mb

[dawn wharf]

This is also an option, I guess?

[dense fractal]

im just going to replace the asset i used with another one..

[night ember]

30mb would be excessive for quest avatars
Its literally a phone strapped to your face
How do you expect to be able to load more than 1 avatar if they are 30mb

[karmic lion]

i am trying to upload an avatar that doesnt have a id attached to it, but it always show this up.

[timber wharf]

thats random error after other errors. you should check your console top to bottom, not the last one

[trim orchid]

every time, no matter the project, unity gives me this error.
what do i do about it?
its on EVERYTHING I DO
(2022)

[modern glen]

my phys bones are not moving

[coarse flint]

Put here your tail bones

Or rather, the main bone of the tail

[modern glen]

it still doesnt move

[coarse flint]

What kind of bone did you put there? Also, where did you install the Phys Bone component?

[coarse flint]

oh

no man, the phys bone should be on the bone you want to move.

[modern glen]

oh

[coarse flint]

In your case, it's "Tail first"

[modern glen]

doesnt work

[coarse flint]

And how do you check it? Are you going into the game mod? Just in case, I'll clarify

[modern glen]

well in the tutorial the guy just moves it in unity

[coarse flint]

nah

all phys bones move only in game mode

[modern glen]

how do i move it in game mode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTTnWUkswkU&t=131s

go to min 2

[coarse flint]

You run mode and you move the avatar itself, and you check

[modern glen]

run mode?

[coarse flint]

.

[dense fractal]

I mean some high end phones do support that dude

[ornate stump]

The problem is "some" while the game has to support more majority of marketshare.

[edgy needle]

Heyya! I got my first ever avatar set up in Unity and I wanna test it but I don't have permissions to build yet. The notif says I should be able to learn and test on my own device but how do I test the model actually works without going through the SDK builder?

[uneven whale]

Sorry, I saw that some avatars can go into meditation pose when using afk mode, where can I find/buy this animation?

[night ember]

thats default to vrchat?

[uneven whale]

How can I make this pose for my default avatar?

[night ember]

just dont remove it from the action layer

[edgy needle]

Wait wait I found a post about having to build up a trust rank in the game to be able to upload a character model, but I've made a model for a client who's paying me to sort this out and I don't actually play VRChat. How do I get around this???

[uneven whale]

I didn't delete anything, just after installing gogoloco, my avatar just covers his face with his hand during afk

[night ember]

so you replaced your action layer

[hearty gazelle]

does anyone know how to add toggles on your vr chat avatar?

[night ember]

a lot of people do yes

[hearty gazelle]

ok cause i need help adding toggles on to my avatar and i did try to add it in the past but i couldnt remember how to do it and i need help aadding it on unity

for the toggles to work

[coarse flint]

Does anyone know how to remove the sound cutoff from the weapon on the avatar? And if possible, is there a way to do this with VRCfury?

[coarse flint]

Like clothes, for example?

[ornate stump]

How does the sound get cutoff to begin with?

[hearty gazelle]

No just weapons and probably clothes and other stuff

[ornate stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtSg6_W07Y
Or use VRCFury or Modular Avatar to create toggle.

[coarse flint]

When I pinch the gesture, a shot occurs, when I squeeze it, everything stops abruptly, including the sound. I've made a simple diagram of how it works

[hearty gazelle]

Ok thank you so much

For the vrc fury thing after toggle would it be gestures or smth else

If I’m trying to add a weapon toggle for example

[ornate stump]

It's better to do this short of animation in animator component because you have full control of everything, and animator has state behaviour that can play audio one shot without getting cutoff.

VRCFury is supposed to be used for only simple toggle.

[coarse flint]

I tried using the controller, but it still doesn't work

https://youtu.be/AcjEinNEqXw?si=VTWl815Y5xXl1Sj7

Here's where the guy explains how to fix this problem using a controller, but it works like a Toggle through a simple menu, and as for gestures, it's likely to slow down

[heavy zephyr]

You send the completed package to them and tell them how to upload it. You shouldn't upload things on their account yourself.

[coarse flint]

I saw that there are guns made entirely on vrcfury, but I didn't understand how they make sounds or effects. I figured out the last ones, but not the sounds

[edgy needle]

How can I test it to know it works?

[heavy zephyr]

I think the build and test button might still work? Otherwise they'd have to upload it and test it themselves.

[ornate stump]

It likely made with its own fx controller. VRCFury job is for merging the animator and parameter for easy-to-install for user.

[edgy needle]

Yeah that's the issue I'm having. I need some sort of trust level just to test it

[heavy zephyr]

Then they'll have to do the testing

[edgy needle]

Ayt no problem. It'd be good to know what other pro creators do too, like whether they test it themselves or something

[ornate stump]

This is what you should be using https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors#animator-play-audio

[edgy needle]

Thanks for the help! ❤️

[heavy zephyr]

Oh wait no, use the avatar emulator or gesture manager

That way you can test in unity directly

[edgy needle]

Ohh? Yeah that's exactly what I'm looking for awesome

I dev for games so I can do that ezpz

[heavy zephyr]

Somehow that escaped my mind. It's in your VCC, simply add it (lets say the gesture manager) to your project, then add it to your hierarchy via the context menu at the top and enter play-mode with it selected.

[edgy needle]

Awww you absolute star, thanks so much!

[coarse flint]

And where is it located? In the object controller?

[ornate stump]

It's in animator state when you're editing animator controller.

[coarse flint]

In this case, it is not clear how to connect them, because if the state of the weapon works on a different system, then how do I connect the Controller and Vrcfury? Because if you follow the logic of switching, then while the weapon is on (animation) and a certain action is performed (For example, a gesture) then the shot is animated, but isn't turning on the weapon the initial action for another action (shooting) in the controller, and because of the use of VRCfury, we divide them into two separate actions? How will it connect the "Separate System" and the Animator?

I haven't found anything that can connect animator and VRcfury

[coarse flint]

As far as I'm concerned, these are separate systems, and I can't figure out how to connect them

[ornate stump]

As I mentioned earlier, VRCFury toggle creator is supposed to be used for a simple toggle. Your weapon requires more advanced logic which VRCFury toggle can't achieve. And so, VRCFury toggle can't be used in your case, but you would still need VRCFury for merging the animator and parameter of your item if you're making it in separated animator controller.

[somber sequoia]

The gogo loco documentation explains in detail, with images, how to add or change out these animations, I'd suggest reading it. There should be a link provided wherever you got the package.

[olive cedar]

hi if i have a linked avatar pc and quest but i want to make new one for quest new project and link the new one to my pc can i do it ?

[junior void]

"link" suggests the wrong idea. Whichever avatar your upload last on either platform is the one used for that platform. The location of it doesnt matter, you can even have a triangle as pc avatar and a square as quest one - it does not care as long as the id it's uploaded as is the same

[olive cedar]

i want to make new one and link the new one to my avatar ( quest )

[junior void]

i understood it the first time

[olive cedar]

so what should i do