avatar-help

[tardy pike]

or the real one

[balmy barn]

4.2+ and unoffical cats (think 4.5 is the new lts now)

[tardy pike]

unofficial is the only way to go now

[tall copper]

0.19.0 I SEE THE PROBLEM NOW...

damn im stupid

thank you guysss

https://tenor.com/view/gen-dr-stone-fire-gif-24139376

[tardy pike]

i let gpt rig my stuff

[tall copper]

who?

[tardy pike]

chat gpt

tho as you can see ive got issues in the coat

help?

[tall copper]

THAT WORKS??

[tardy pike]

kinda

[lilac musk]

My game objects keep flipping to a previous state. I've seem someone saying something about this as well. Is this there a solution out there?

[tall copper]

interesting...

[lilac musk]

Seems to do it when I go to the SDK panel

[junior rock]

does anyone know any tips to fix this, unity would be prefered but i would take anything i can get at this point

[frail tree]

man im so tired... i just

ive rigged skirts before and theyre always a pain in the ass but AT LEAST i could get em workin at some point

i thought this one would be easier but apparently not, see its a pencil skirt so it hugs the legs closely and ironically this has made weightpainting either to thet body or on its own 10x harder

i havent been able to find any resources or proper help/documentation or let alone TOOLS i can use to solve this issue so im just gonna ask here

is there anything that can help? or any instructions, or just... anything? please? im losin my mind here

ive seen other people pull off tight skirts like this really well before so like... what am i even doing wrong

its been years and i just havent been able to figure this stuff out

[stray trench]

any guesses what would cause this? im trying to help someone make their first avatar

could it be they merged the head onto the body, instead of the body onto the head?

[frail tree]

i just wish VRchat had like

some way to LIMIT constraints

Like... have them rotate along in a certatin direction but limit it so it doesnt rotate BACKWARDS

why isnt that a thing? blender has it so why doesnt VRC?

its such a pain i dont know HOW people work with this
-# tbf im just really annoyed rn maybe theres ways

[lilac musk]

You can use an avatar optimizer in Unity, or take it into blender and do some retopology along with combining the materials/textures

[somber sequoia]

yeah I really want limiters

[fair elbow]

errr where i can find shapekey

i tried to look in blender and i don’t see it :c

[somber sequoia]

select a mesh object, then in the green triangle in the properties box (usually bottom right of the view), you'll find them

[fair elbow]

ok! ty

i don’t wanna annoy people, i’m new to working on vrchat in blender

[somber sequoia]

this is the channel to ask questions

[stray trench]

any ideas?

[fair elbow]

ok i found it! now how i can make extra blendershapes?

[somber sequoia]

plus button on the side, then edit the mesh and move stuff wherever

[azure crown]

Question on contact receivers. Is there a limit because the prefab I'm trying to use isn't working on quest? Even after deleting some it didn't work?

[somber sequoia]

yes - see https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system#pc-limits

(or whichever section you need)

[fair elbow]

it won’t let me click these and add the shapekeys, am i missing something

it’s all grey

[long sierra]

I'm making a character who is a prisoner, and I wanted them to have one of those weights-attached-to-a-chain on their ankle, and for the weight bone to have well... Weight to it, but also make it bouncy so that it would fall quickly when it wasn't on the ground, but it would bounce a little when they walked

I also wanted it to play a little "clonk" noise when the weight hit something

I guess I could use contact senders/receivers for the sound

[scenic comet]

could there be an explanation as to why my visemes arent recognizing every other vowel other than I, and U?

[fair elbow]

nvm i figured. i clicked the object mode and it shows up and i can click add shapekey. what i can do next?

[mystic nova]

hello! ...

i have tried looking around in here for possible answers to my quires but i cannot really find anything and i'm struggling a little, no one really seems to cover the specific thing i'm looking for so i'm going to give it a shot and ask, i really hope i get a response cuz this would be such a cool achievement for me 😭

is there a way to disable all in-game locomotion regarding arms + hands and force it into an animation clip without using rotation constraints/physbones?

• i wanted to make a really simple toggle that would disable the in-game arm + hand tracking and manually force the humanoid arm bones into a 'crossed behind his back' pose to reference his cloaked stance... i do not want to use rotation constraints or physbones for this... if it's of any importance; i have used the muscle animation editor to create the pose

• i have already made the animation for it (IMG 1), as well as setting it up in the fx layer so that, in theory, it should disable all locomotion (in the arms) and force the animation pose instead (img 2 , 3, 4)

• however, when i go to preview the avatar (with gesture manager or in game) the toggle does nothing at all... however when i preview the avatar in unity without using gesturemanager it seems to work? (see video...)
  im not really sure what to do, becuase i've seen other avi creators pull it off before but im not entirely usre what im doing wrong

im also unsure if i need to actually make a mask and add it to the animator layers slot...since i do not have one on there anymore (when i set up the mask and added it to the layers it..did nothing at all and i still had the same issues to i removed it)

ahh typing up a storm 😭 i hope my question makes sense ha (im sorry for the horifically wide screen too 😭)

[surreal salmon]

how do yall reccomend getting rid of uv lines

the more i scale the model up the harder they are to see

[timber wharf]

textures should extend beyond uv limits

since when goin far away engine loads up mip maps ie downscaled versions so when borderline accurate for highres, stuff starts to bleed in on lowres mipmap level

[bright raft]

does anyone have any idea how an avatar's hand contacts can just stop working? the hands on this avi don't interact with physbones or other contacts, yet I can press buttons on world buttons that require you to press with your fingers

I've had this issue before, fixed it somehow, and now the issue has returned and I still have no idea how I fixed it the first time lmao

[somber sequoia]

do it in the gesture layer, use VRC Animator Tracking Control to take control of animating the limbs, restore it after your animation is complete.

[mystic nova]

ah, thank you so much! i will give that an attempt!! ✨

UPDATE:
that barely did anything ;(
it seemed to put the hands into the pose i made for it, however the arms didnt budge, and i couldnt disable the toggle after enabling it :(

[fast nimbus]

Does anyone know how I can hide extra outfits on the preview of my avatar?

[fair elbow]

bump

[viral field]

Right, so I'm using the hyenid and I noticed that the further I get away from from the default 0.0.0 coordinates the more exacerbated this issue gets

Anyone have any clue what's causing this?

[stark meadow]

looks like un-weighted vertices

did you delete bones in unity?

[viral field]

Yeah

[viral field]

How do you think I could go about fixing this?

[stark meadow]

you have to drag in a new fbx/prefab

if you delete the bones those vertices dont know where to go so they stretch to a single spot like that

if you know where they are on the texture making that part transparent might work but its easier to just restart

[viral field]

Fair point

[mystic nova]

another update... it seems to somewhat work but its not posing the arms how i want it LMAO... i hate unityyy 💔

[astral quarry]

animation that move your avatars body are controlled by the action layer and thus the emote layer, did you add your animation to an emote in the action layer?

[hard hatch]

is there supposed to be something in the 'sources' tab?

i had a friend help me set this up and i forgot if something needs to be there

[somber meadow]

what are you making

are you trying to be able to see a muzzle in first person?

[hard hatch]

no we had to use a parent constraint because the muzzle doesnt have any armature

which is why we put the headchop there

or at least i think thats why we used the parent constraint lol

im not 100% sure of how it functions so i cant say for suew

sure*

but the idea of this setup is to have the muzzle set up and linked to the head since the muzzle doesnt have armature

[stark meadow]

couldnt you just drag it onto the head bone?

if you want to see it in first person drag the head bone to the source

[somber meadow]

meshes with no armatures don't need a constraint

they can simply be dragged to what bone you want it parented to

[hard hatch]

hmmm okay i could be wrong then lol

[junior rock]

What optimiser would you recommend

[somber meadow]

D4rk's Avatar Optimizer is the most popular

[junior rock]

can you show me what settings to use and what buttons to press? Again apologies i dont really know what im doing

[astral quarry]

optimization can be a pain in the butt especially since you need to use blender to drop the polygon count

in blender you have to select the meshes in edit mode then decimate geo

[junior rock]

oh my god THANK YOU, i will give it a shot. but how do i import my model into blender

[astral quarry]

if you havent used blender you need https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial- you can watch a quick install guide to get you running that should help with the inport/export to unity and combining meshes

[junior rock]

so do i just install it or do i have to do something else like manually putting it in my blender?

[astral quarry]

in blender go to edit>preferences and find that plugin to install (no need to unzip the CATSplugin)

[somber meadow]

You don't need CATS

[junior rock]

phew because for some reason it wasnt there (god knows why)

[somber meadow]

you have to add it through local files

[junior rock]

so do you think i should use cats or not?

[somber meadow]

it has some QoL tools for making Visemes, and really basic optimization stuff, but those can be done easily outside of the plugin, if you're looking for some optimization plugins there's Tuxedo

[junior rock]

can you give me a step by step guide on how to use it?

i would greatly appreciate it

[mystic nova]

ahh, i see! ... apologies for the late response
i did it through the fx layer because i wasnt getting any results with the action layer ;< i also never linked it with VRCEmote because it ended up putting my avatar into the bike pose with the arms in the position i wanted; its set up through the fx layer.. sorta works but not fully, its just a copy of golocos desktop mode thibg but witjout the arms in thw pose i want x;D

[somber pumice]

any idea why theres nothing?

[ornate stump]

Check error in console.

[somber pumice]

this is the only error and it repeats it a lot

how do i solve

[teal laurel]

This sometimes happens to me too. Tbh i just save my stuff and restart unity at that point, which fixes it for me.

[somber pumice]

it didnt for me

i even retried to make the whole unity package, nothing

it happens especially with avatars that come from zipfile and with duplicating avatar.

[teal laurel]

Uhh damn

[somber pumice]

sometimes half of it disapiers sometimes everything

[teal laurel]

Then i am out of ideas

[somber pumice]

when reopening file it even ask me to open it safe

[ornate stump]

Some script is breaking then. You should have other error than what you show above.

[somber pumice]

its repeating itself a millions of times

like not milion, but a lot

question is

whats the proper way to upload a zipfile to unity?

first extract then i just drag it in right?

[ornate stump]

You can make it Collapse and it will show only unique error.

[ornate stump]

Yes of course. It isn't "uploading" by the way. That's "importing".

[somber pumice]

english isnt my first language.

[somber pumice]

im in safe mode

cuz cant open differently

but here

[ornate stump]

You seems to have duplicated every script in your project and that make your project broke.

[somber pumice]

it isnt duplicated tho

[teal laurel]

can they "just" nuke the packages folder and then re-install some stuff?

[timber wharf]

/assets/avatar/packages

looks like dragging whole project inside assets folder

[ornate stump]

It's rather the contents of your zip file actually are the project itself. You have to extract it to a separate folder and add project folder from VCC.

[somber pumice]

i only have installed sdk, poyomi, vrcfury, unlitwf

[somber pumice]

vcc has error, cant do that

i cant have vcc for a half year now, tried to redownload but keeps on not wanting to work

[ornate stump]

Do you mind eraborate the error?

[teal laurel]

lol true. Good catch

[teal laurel]

TheLastMost is right @somber pumice, someone dragged the entire project into the assets folder

Someone basically dragged this into that

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/aKgfo5ff48ipsKr/preview?e=e (hello, load pls? Ok no. Cool.)

[somber pumice]

dang it

[teal laurel]

You can try to fix it by ONLY moving the contents of the asset folder into your assets

[somber pumice]

got it

sooo re do the whole thing since project broken, and from zipfile download everything from the avatar package?

or im confused

or import

sorry

[teal laurel]

The zip file you got right, can you unzip that first?

[somber pumice]

yes

already did

[teal laurel]

then go into it, go into assets, select everything, create a new unity avatar project, and drag the contents into it?

[somber pumice]

i never upload zipfiles so got no fucking clue

i only grab unity files but this avi did zipfile

[teal laurel]

lemme quickly make a video, 1s

[somber pumice]

imma try, imma make new unity project etc gonna take a hourish to do it cuz pc and wifi slow XD

[ornate stump]

How do you manage the project if vcc is error?

[somber pumice]

open unity version that avi ask for, get the vrc sdk from vrc website (to make sure its the new always) then first import sdk, then poyomi, then vrc fury, then if it needs anything els that, and then the avatar.

plus if wanting to edit it gesture manager

i technicly put everything in it one by one

[teal laurel]

why get the vrc sdk?

[ornate stump]

Do you use unity hub or anything?

[teal laurel]

Thats what vrchat creator companion does for you

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/LT7BXNAjpHeiSPg/download/Awooo_drzTB.mp4

[somber pumice]

yes

[teal laurel]

it manages all this

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/McmJoeofim9nWPL/preview

man no embed perms are annoying

[somber pumice]

cant do vcc

[teal laurel]

also as a note, you are probably showing your real name there

[somber pumice]

nope

it legit says username in my language

XD

[teal laurel]

ah

[ornate stump]

The content in your zip file is the entire project itself. You have to extract the zipfile into its own folder and use Add Existing Project from unity hub to open.

[somber pumice]

how do i do that?

[ornate stump]

Which part wasn't clear?

[somber pumice]

the whole thing?

XD

[ornate stump]

1. Extract the zipfile into its own folder
2. use Add Existing Project from unity hub to open

[somber pumice]

if i do the second wont it be broken since no sdk?

[ornate stump]

It's the entire project Which would also include the sdk.

[somber pumice]

and also how do i add existing project

[somber pumice]

oooooh

sorry for being dumb but never did this way before

[ornate stump]

Find a button name "add existing project" or someting similar.

[somber pumice]

i can add project from disk, i dont find anything els

[ornate stump]

Yes That.

Browse and select a folder that contains folder Assets and Packages.

[ornate stump]

Which folder you selected?

[somber pumice]

the whole folder

[ornate stump]

Also screenshot to confirm you're selecting the right one.

[somber pumice]

wait, now it let me open further

XD

[ornate stump]

Why there are so many of them.

[somber pumice]

idfk

XDD

i didnt make it

after this which one?

[ornate stump]

Just find whatever folder that contains Assets and Packages folder..

[somber pumice]

i was trying, the last time it opend itself at the last one

[ornate stump]

Then that one is the right one.

[somber pumice]

ty

if not working ill text again

but ty a lot for help

okay, so it did open, it shows more, still cant see inside of the project how much physbone collisions, triangles or anything

the reviews and alerts not opening

review any alerts

sorry typing too quick

[ornate stump]

Check unity version and error in console.

[ornate stump]

What unity version you're using?

[somber pumice]

2022.3.22f1

[ornate stump]

Close unity, delete the Library folder in your project folder, and open back again.

[somber pumice]

libary folder?

[somber pumice]

open same project or?

[somber pumice]

delete it fully u mean

[ornate stump]

Is there another kind of delete?

[junior void]

🥴

[somber pumice]

idfk

why being mean with reasuring?

[ornate stump]

Open same project.

[somber pumice]

never had to deal with zipfiles till now.

[somber pumice]

kk

[ornate stump]

I don't like repeating myself all over again.

[somber pumice]

i didnt ask u to repeat im making sure thats all

still not working

and now build not working either

same issue as earlier.

[ornate stump]

Does the page where you download the project from specify which unity version to use?

[somber pumice]

nope but the avi just came out so i assumed

the one im trying to upload is the free version of it, if i would have got the paid for (sfw is the free nsfw is paid) then i would be asking creator for help, but im getting to a point of giving up

they were promoting it tn in a club and i was like oo that looks nice so yeah

[ornate stump]

Last resort is you have to create a new project, import all required packages, and move only the Assets folder into a new project.

[somber pumice]

oh also creators first avi by looking at page

[somber pumice]

all requierd u mean poyomi and such?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[somber pumice]

got it, ty ill try

[granite ravine]

Heya ! It's been a while since I tried to upload an avatar, I put all the requiered packages, right version of Unity recommended by the creator, but i keep getting these messages ? i'm not really sure what to do, if somebody could help me I would really really appreciate it 🩷

[somber pumice]

the error with the missing script double click that

should show the missing script in the inspector if u do that

also u need to detatch the blueprint

[granite ravine]

Thank you !

I think it got fixed

[night gazelle]

my avatar in blender has blendshapes, but when i all the other parts of the model, follow when i activate the blendshapes, for example the shirt, notice the slight change on the shirt, how should i fix this?

[junior void]

do you mean the little bit in the center between the collarbones?

[night gazelle]

Yeea its like the blendshapes for example the eye blinkin was asigned to the shirt as well, so it would be "blinking" too?

[night gazelle]

weird

never happened before

[junior void]

youd have to fix that in blender

[night gazelle]

question is how?, the blendshapes already came with the avatar, and the shirt i made it, but didnt make any blendshapes on it

[junior void]

you select the geometry of the shirt, enable the blendshape and find "blend from shape" option, i believ its under "vertex"

then you can "blend this selected area from another shape" such as the base shape

[fallow tusk]

I want to change the shape of the pupils of my avatar. I found the texture but when I delete parts of the pupil there is still the same shape on the model but in grey. I also can't go over the original shape of the pupil.

What would I need to do to change that?

Image of the gray pupil. The darker part is supposed to be a heart

[junior void]

cant go over the original shape? im confused what youre doing and where

are we talking about blender and deleting mesh bits, or are we in a painting program to change the texture orrr...

[fallow tusk]

I was trying to do it in photoshop. Would I need to do that in blender? I am pretty clueless

[junior void]

well the shape of the pupils may also be available as blendshapes

have you checked that yet?

[fallow tusk]

I can see lots of meta. fbx. anim. files in the folders
Not exactly sure what I am looking for

[junior void]

you can find blendshapes on the meshes

so literally the head of your avi in the scene

[fallow tusk]

Okay I opened the model in blender but it seems like the pupils don't have a shape/mesh ? I couldn't click on them like on the other body or clothing parts.

I don't really understand that stuff all that well. I am new to vrc and never worked tried to work on a model like that :D
So sorry for being a little bit stupid

[junior void]

in that case its really hard to help you

[fallow tusk]

Alright! I appreciate the effort though ! I will keep the eyes as they are :)

[glossy copper]

Didn't end up working, I'm entering safe mode atm.

[glossy copper]

same thing

[astral quarry]

that could be a few things that cause that, like if you got an old avatar with the old sdk. It used to install VRChat stuff in the assets folder now it installs in the package folder.

[heady stump]

Anyone know how to fix this for quest users?

[still shuttle]

You can change the material for the blush to a mobile particle shader and it'll give it transparency

[faint violet]

ok so im back. Zero helped me with ALOTTTT of my avatar problems but now im having problems with animating gestures. so i get to the part where i animate them but if i use local the keyframes dont get created and if i use global the fingers tweak tf out after i move more than one joint. i can send a screenshot of what i mean if yall need it?

sorry didnt mean to interrupt btw

i lied btw now its just not making keyframes :)

this is way more work than i thought it would be but im hooked now

[astral quarry]

are you using humanoid animations to make your hand gestures or are you using default (generic) animations

?

[faint violet]

i think humanoid but im not sure at this point

how would i check that again?

[astral quarry]

humanoid animations looks like this with the animator and the name of the bone on the right

[heady stump]

It seems what used to be Manuka_face and Manuka_options has at some point merged into one and the same material, and now I can't apply a different material to the facial options without it also affecting the face. Do you know of any quick fixes to that or should I just mess around with it until I figure it out

[faint violet]

ok so its not even making the keyframes there

its not showing up that i made a change to the rotation

its also giving me this error hold on

[somber sequoia]

You'd probably have to open the model in Blender to see what goes where on the UV map

[astral quarry]

yes because you're trying to make a avatar animation on a generic animation clip. I suggest to copy the hand guesture that is close to the one you want from the VRChat defualt sdk hand animations (or you can download them from somewhere) then tweak the values to match what you want

[faint violet]

ah

ok

ill attempt to do that but im still pretty new so i may need more help

[astral quarry]

its pretty advance and it could get tedious but i think its the best way to make your own poses and animations without using mocap suit or an external software

[faint violet]

man all this struggle to swap the rock and roll gesture to a middle finger is crazy

[junior void]

it would help if one were to explain how to properly create such a new animation for a humanoid bone

[somber sequoia]

I did that, it really isn't much effort at all

[faint violet]

uhhhhh helpy maybe possibly?

[junior void]

i dont see it

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what you've done so far

[junior void]

he has everything

the whole setup

EXCEPT the animations

[faint violet]

yesyes

thank u zero

[somber sequoia]

mostly I started with an empty animation and just played with the finger rotations in the animator until they looked okay.
It's really easy in Blender since you can just select all the finger bones and rotate them around their individual pivots all in one shot, but then you have to deal with exporting that.

[junior void]

you dont get the problem then

[faint violet]

yeah

[junior void]

when he starts animating the fingers, he gets this

so please, the difference between a regular animation vs the Animator.Whatevername here ones

[somber sequoia]

yep, I haven't read back

[junior void]

i forgot how you make these

thats what we are stuck at

the rest we have

[somber sequoia]

you have to select them from the plus button at the bottom there

you can't click the model to get them

this is the part that sucks doing it in unity

[junior void]

you mean "add property"

[somber sequoia]

yep, I don't have Unity open at the moment

[junior void]

alright

[faint violet]

oh fuck

wait so

[junior void]

that we can work with

[faint violet]

i see i think

[somber sequoia]

iirc you can ctrl-click or something to add multiple properties without having to keep opening that little add dialog each time

[faint violet]

oh boy

[astral quarry]

i think its easier to just download free poses animations from booth or wherever and mess with that, why start cold?

[somber sequoia]

start with just the "stretched" ones

[somber sequoia]

it is, certainly.

[junior void]

carrot i will just send you mine lol

[faint violet]

haha ok that works

[somber sequoia]

yeah I was just going to say, or one of us who did this can share 🙂

[faint violet]

you guys are great thank u so much

[junior void]

i wasnt sure how the transforms translate

like the axes you know

[faint violet]

this too

[somber sequoia]

these ought to be generic since they're humanoid movements

[junior void]

fair enough

[somber sequoia]

you might have to adjust how much the movement is (because of your mesh shape), but it shouldn't be weird like wrong axes or different property names

[junior void]

alright

i did this once and also used someone elses as blueprint

but that was 2 years ago

[somber sequoia]

I also did this like 2 years ago and apparently never made a left one

(mine is triggered by left-fist + right-gun)

[heady stump]

Fixed it! Thanks!

I'm a bit confused?

[umbral pollen]

this isnt an issue just a general question, I want to have a phone on my avatar with a handset that can be picked up by other people. Whats the best way to do that? I was thinking about using physbones like on tails and ears but i feel like that would be too wonky.

[somber sequoia]

you can't use that one on avatars, despite what it says there. See https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations#shaders for details

[faint violet]

ok quick question

where are the vrchat original hand gesture animations in the files?

[somber sequoia]

./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Samples/AV3 Demo Assets/Animation/ProxyAnim/proxy_hands_peace.anim```

(couldn't remember the exact name of it)

note that these do both hands and you specify which via the layer mask

[faint violet]

yesyes thank you so much

just need the peace sign is all

[heady stump]

Additive worked instead, thanks!

[faint violet]

i got the other gestures from zero

[unkempt canopy]

is it possible to move hair from one avatar to another?

[balmy barn]

yes|| ( blender - seperate hair mesh and its bones > delete rest, export > import it to some other avatar remove its hair+hairbones > adjust & attach )||

[unkempt canopy]

what do I grab just the object and armature?

im not sure what to export

im pretty sure its already detached in unity

[somber sequoia]

don't export from Unity, you probably already have model files you can simply import into Blender

[umbral pollen]

im having a wierd issue with the animator, anytime i try to record something it just doesnt record. i know thats not super descriptive but thats literally whats going on

unity animator*

[obtuse vigil]

why is the model head moving like this when it should move like this

and when you update an avatar how long does it take to update in game? I want to make sure that's not the issue that's happening

[umbral pollen]

its normally instant for me but sometimes it can take a minute

[umbral pollen]

whats moving that shouldnt?

[obtuse vigil]

the face of the model (which is just the eyes and lips) are looking around and tracking my head when the head (the whole head) should be doing it

it doesn't seem like the models actually updating when im changing the rigs though which is why i ask how long it takes

[umbral pollen]

try restarting vrc

[somber sequoia]

you have the animation controller with the animation you're working on in the avatar's animator slot, and the avatar selected before you click "record", right?

[obtuse vigil]

i didnt hit apply 🔥

why does it say the neck is optional but then doesn't let you not have one?

[umbral pollen]

yeah

[obtuse vigil]

its cause its unity not vrc ohhh

so how do i set up a non humanoid

rig

[umbral pollen]

it was literally just working then it decided to stop

i love unity

so i think it might be related to my hierarchy somehow

ive got an invisible cube and a phone and desk parented to the cube. the cube acts as my body with the avatar descriptor and what not, the phone and desk are in a world constraint setup to place it into the world.

i think its something to do with the avatar and and controller but im so lost

[devout mountain]

hi everyone, i am trying to do something that logically seems very easy to me, but I am still new to this and I'm just completely lost. just absolutely lost.
basically I have five animators on my model right now - the root/avatar, one for each wing, and one for each halo ring. (as pictured, see video.) i am trying to get my avatar down to 4 animators instead of 5 so i can hit the "good" mark. how can i go about doing this?

[balmy barn]

animate from root of your avatar , you dont want more then 1 animator

(just change path to bones/ect in the animation file)

then drop that animation on a loop in the fx controller

[devout mountain]

How do I change the path to the bones?

I've tried applying the animations to the root controller but uhhh

[balmy barn]

'bike' pose is normal when you do animations

doesnt really do that ingame just now its not animating any humanoid bone so they are 'bike'

[umbral pollen]

nvm i fixed it by putting the halo 3 rat into the heirarchy

[devout mountain]

How do I set the object to animate?

FWIW, the wings and halo are not bones, they're planes

[obtuse vigil]

fuck it im learning blender wish me luck

[main nacelle]

anyone know the name of this male body

[light charm]

under what controller does "scaling" go under? i've tried fx, gestures, idle and actions, but still, nothing

[obtuse vigil]

scaling for what

i cant help but im curious what specifically you are making scaleabgle

[light charm]

a prop
it seems to not let me have the prop in an emote and as a toggle in the hand at the same time, which means when i do an emote there is no prop in the emote
i thought it was because if i "disabled" it, it wouldn't show up
well maybe it would work with scaling since it might "override" the values?

[timber wharf]

@light charm fx does anything but humanoid bones transfroms, rest of the layers does only those. if you need to enable both prop (ie enable object) and gesture at the same time, you need to make two different animations on fx+gesture or some other layer with the same conditions.

[light charm]

i did that
but you see thats the thing
im having a bit of difficulty wording this right now but
i have the prop toggle as a toggle in the emotes that places it in your hand, but i also have an emote that uses the same prop and for some reason it's not appearing in the emotes, and i think its because of the toggle thing?

[timber wharf]

yes, having the same property animated in different states will lead to the lowest one taking over.

easiest would be to make toggle part to follow both of conditions, for toggle and for emote

and removing that object from emote animation overall

or smth

[light charm]

that emote depends entirely on that prop

[timber wharf]

youre missing the point

[light charm]

and i cant just duplicate the mesh because then my avatar will be very poor

[timber wharf]

make emote param drive your toggle to true on entry and to false on exit

[light charm]

i did that already?

[timber wharf]

in action layer, and the only thing actually showing prop now is a toggle in fx?

[light charm]

no, i need that prop in the emote

[timber wharf]

emote is action layer, it has nothing to do with props. you param drive to force on toggle when entering emote, emote itself has no object in its animation

[light charm]

yes, i have copied the action emote layer over to the fx layer so it does the same thing, and yet, the prop doesn't show up in the emote

[timber wharf]

cause its overriden by toggle layer

[light charm]

how do i fix that

[timber wharf]

if i understand correcntly that you jave both emote and separate manual toggle

you remove emote from fx

and use parameter driver to force toggle on/off

on emote entry/exit

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#avatar-parameter-driver

[light charm]

???... that's not the problem?
i can do the toggle while doing the emote i think, i guess that's a temporary fix?

[timber wharf]

...

[light charm]

i'm sorry i have learning difficulties please be patient with me

[timber wharf]

you have a normal layer with on<->off toggle for prop, right?

[light charm]

indeed

[timber wharf]

thats the only thing that should mention prop in its animations

but, on top of having you manually push a button to toggle it on/off

you may make other animation (animator state to be precise) to push that button for you automatically. that what parameter driver basically does

[light charm]

ah... that may be difficult...
the prop doesn't show up for the entire animation...

[timber wharf]

cause its not about animation, its about changing toggle param (not object state itself) to true when entering emote

[light charm]

ah ok

[timber wharf]

and to false in empty state after emote is over

[light charm]

do you think this could also be done using the "condition" thingy? like the one you use with emotes and what you use for the toggle itself

[timber wharf]

sure. on the same one and only toggle layer just make go to on if toggle on OR emote on, to false if both (AND) are off

'or' is two transitions, 'and' is two conditions in one transition

[light charm]

???
i'm having a hard time understanding now

[thick lake]

Why is this happening 😭

[umbral pollen]

how do i get this to stretch more?

heres the rig for reference

[timber wharf]

set stretch motion to 1

[umbral pollen]

still does it, but im just realizing its probably because im using world constraints

so second question, can i still use stretching like that with world constraints?

nvm i just turned off the world contraint and it still does it

[timber wharf]

if youre trying to connect points a and b while still being physbones, no

[umbral pollen]

oh

yeah im trying to have the phone be able to be picked up while its placed in the world

[timber wharf]

receiver should be just a normal unconstrained object with physbones leading to it

[umbral pollen]

wouldnt it move when i move then?

like if i placed the world constraint stuff and walked away wouldnt it move with me?

[timber wharf]

ah, thats fine

constraints on top of physbones are bad, constraints affecting immovable parent object are mostly fine, some jitter worst case

[umbral pollen]

heirarchy for reference

[timber wharf]

uh, world constraint is obsolete, its vrc parent constraint - freeze to world nowadays

[umbral pollen]

it says world constraint but its the vrc one

i just throw it in there and and replace it

[timber wharf]

from your blender i cant be sure, is your reciever weightpainted to the last bone? looks like the first one

[umbral pollen]

its the last bone

the first one is weight painted to the actual base of the phone

[timber wharf]

can you check how it goes in playmode when physbone overlay is on?

cause seems fine ye

[umbral pollen]

theres a physbone overlay?

how do i turn it on?

oh nvm

holy shit

i think it is painted to the first bone

some how

it doesnt say it is on blender

no its definitely not

this actually makes 0 sense

[balmy barn]

thats some old world constraints

[umbral pollen]

bruh

for proof im using vrc constraints

[balmy barn]

vrlabs old world constraints hiarchy

[umbral pollen]

yeah, i just change it to the vrc one because thats how i learned

[balmy barn]

remember using it some year ago , least we got it easier now

[umbral pollen]

but fr im so lost, it looks like its parented to the first bone but its not

[night ember]

you can still do a couple of things with the old method

[umbral pollen]

im gonna try something else, im gonna use freeze to world on the phone base and table, then use a separate model for the reciever and parent it to the end of the physbone chain in unity

maybe that will work

[night ember]

you could just weight paint the phone to the end of the last bone

[umbral pollen]

i did, thats why ive been so confused

[night ember]

I mean the last bone then dont use it in the physbone

cause if you stretch a bone that has 100% weight the mesh doesnt stretch

[umbral pollen]

the mesh isnt supposed to stretch, im trying to get it so other people can pick up the reciever on the phone

[night ember]

if it doesnt stretch it stays at the root of the bone
that bone needs to be ignored as the higher bone stretches instead

[umbral pollen]

but if ignore the root bone doesnt it ignore the children?

[night ember]

Im not telling you to ignore the root bone

Im telling you to ignore the last bone that the phone is weight painted to

[umbral pollen]

oh

word

so when i ignore the last bone it removes my ability to make colliders so im adding a 4th bone, im guessing it was to short of a chain

holy shit it worked

thanks guys

[modern cypress]

any idea what THIS might be

[mossy jacinth]

the pink thing?

[mossy jacinth]

Pink usually means theres a missing material, check if the animation is trying to set a material that doesn't exist or removing the current one

[modern cypress]

it moves with the camera not the model

[mossy jacinth]

huh, odd

[runic notch]

Do i just need to play longer to be able to upload my avatar?

I've been at this all day LOL

[thick lake]

How do I check that?

[mossy jacinth]

open the animation editor then click your avatar to access its clips

[snow goblet]

yup, simply play more and you should reach new user in some time

simply being in a public world and chatting amongst people is enough to gain trust ranks, getting muted and blocked will set you back so be on good behavior for a day or two and itll be fine

[thick lake]

Thanks I got it working now!

[mossy jacinth]

yippeee!

[runic notch]

Thank you! I've had an account for 3 years although just started to play, before i only jumped in cause a friend told me about it

Thank for the help!@

[thorny shadow]

i got a question i got an image uploaded and a custom hoodie i mnade on my avatar but when its in unity it wont show at all

@snow goblet

[thorny shadow]

this image on here wont popup in unity

[somber sequoia]

add it in Unity as a decal texture with a shader that supports those. If not, edit the image in some image editor (gimp, krita, photoshop, etc.) and add the logo in the right spot.

[thorny shadow]

i got it to work but now i got the issue where it says the build failed at the end but still uploads it

[fair elbow]

bump, still haven’t figured out yet ):

anyone know? please, i still need help..

[stark meadow]

i would copy another viseme

unless you wanna make your own

set a working shape key to 1, then click the dropdown menu on the right side

new shape from mix, then rename the new shape as the broken one

[mighty basin]

I'm rigging an avatar and for the life of me I can not rig its legs to work in vrchat. I've tried doing a digitigrade rig so i scrapped it, and that didn't seem to work like. it looks decent on desktop when i rig it like this but full body refuses.

[dire dagger]

Anyone know how to fix the lashes and brows?

[stark meadow]

have you tried something like this?

[mighty basin]

when i do that the uhm heel? bends wrong

[stark meadow]

i havent rigged furry avatars so this might not work but i think moving the foot bone forward would help, as awkward as it makes the ankle look

im not sure if you can get it perfect in fbt with feet that long

at least moving the knee forward a bit would help too

[mighty basin]

i actually am trying that right now i moved it to this

[arctic ginkgo]

I can help in a little bit. Busy rn but I did a roo rig a little while ago

I can show you how mine is set up

[mighty basin]

(i am still mostly new to this fair warning)

[pure oyster]

I'm having issues uploading avatars they take 4+ hours 😭 is there any help?

[fair elbow]

ty!

[mighty basin]

ok so i slammed a hammer on my keyboard and made this and it somewhat works

i used rotation constraints on unity to make it follow the added bones only issues now is when i swivel my foot side to side

[grizzled rose]

this keeps deforming so badly, i dont want the mesh to have too many polys but i cant get this to deform right
would giving it its own bones and having them rotation-constrained be better for this??

some help would be appreciated!

heres the mesh 4 the outfit

[stark meadow]

i cant link here but giving the outfit its own bones would probably be the best way

"how to deal with skirts in VRChat" by Airbee shows a good setup

[grizzled rose]

ooh, ty!

[stark meadow]

i havent done a super long outfit like that but i can vouch for their method on skirts

[lilac musk]

Slender dresses beyond the knee are a pain in the butt. You either have clipping issues or just weight them to the legs. Well at least that I know of.

[grizzled rose]

I’m just gonna pray these rotation constraints work

[edgy iron]

Is there a way to get Unity to tell you how much Parameter Space you are going to be using up when you upload? Cause I am trying to do an Upload but Unity is telling me I've ran out of Parameter space even though when I look under my parameters it still shows me as at 123 out of 256 (which I know can't be possible) so how do I see how many parameters are ACTUALLY GOING to be used by my avatar before I try to upload?

[white sundial]

what shader is this that people use in their anime characters to get real time shadows? i don't get these with poiyomi free

[stark meadow]

PCSS on booth

[glad dirge]

I tried messing with the blendshape settings of the sweater to make it fit, but this is as far as it can go

does anyone know how I can extend it a little more?

[junior void]

Blender :)

[cedar echo]

I want to make sure I'm not wasting any time, do I still do animations for toggles that are instant, or like color sliders,

[glad dirge]

I mean I know I saw my friend do something on unity before to like physically changing the shape of it manually

Ik it wasn't blender tho

[junior void]

Aside from blendshapes or scaling it, never heard

[mint mango]

and when i go in my armature its there

im just doing a couple tests to learn and i really cant get that one

[polar obsidian]

Ok so im using d4rkpl4y3r's avatar optimizer for reference. Obviously its "very poor" in Unity but im confused on its actual recorded performance rating? When I put on the avatar and look up it just says "poor" but when I look on the website in places it still says "very poor" so which is it? I also put in the bits of my avi that make it "poor" status at least, which is mostly due to the physbone count being over 16, but its still less than 32. And obviously same for the effective transforms, more than medium but less than very poor. So what does it end up as on other people's end?

Feel free to ping me if you know.

[quasi tundra]

I'm trying to use a vrchat avatar model from vroid, but the shaders are messing me up. It seems to really not like to be put into toon lit, and destroys the eye textures when I do. Is there any workaround for this, or am I kinda screwed?

It seems like it's just the eyes, but I'm not sure how I'd edit those textures to remove the transparency and fix the textures

[junior void]

Quest does not support transparency so youll have to take the avi to blender and cut out the black parts

[quasi tundra]

Blender have support for vroid models?

[junior void]

Theres an addon for it, i used it 3 days ago

#avatar-help message

[tall dock]

Why this happening, help

My avatar is sitting in weird ways

[ornate stump]

Have you tested with other station?

[modern glen]

would these mouth keys be enough for my vrchat model

[daring axle]

Hello, I'm trying to make a emission Mask for a avatars eyes so that they glow.
Does anyone know I can do this in a simplified manner.

[night ember]

if you are using blendshapes you need all of them

[modern glen]

i am not ready to draw 16mouths

[night ember]

is your model facing the right way

[quasi tundra]

Just did all this, but it seems like it removed settings such as lip syncing.

[arctic ginkgo]

yes-ish, if you do custom animations you can do whatever you want

what you will do is choose which mouth is used for each sound

[modern glen]

um im not doing custom animations

[arctic ginkgo]

so your avatar will still have to make other shapes (rr, ss, kk, dd, etc) but you just assign one of the other mouths to these sounds

[arctic ginkgo]

well then no, it's not enough

[modern glen]

like when you say custom animations

you mean the whole animation

idle and uhh

walking

[arctic ginkgo]

no, i mean for the mouth

[modern glen]

oih yeah ig its custom

because i didnt make an 3d mouth ill just use textures

it would work as long im using uhh shape keys

right

[arctic ginkgo]

you can do it many ways

shapekeys, bones, material swaps, texture offset, etc

[wary jewel]

so my generic rigs arent allowing my voice to be heard when i speak but it was working fine like 2 days ago

[molten inlet]

question

what is the best way to do 2D vimesems?

like sprite based ones

[modern glen]

yeah i need to know that too

because i figured out you can edit textures with shape keys

[arctic ginkgo]

shapekeys, material swaps, animated texture offset

really up to you what you prefer

[tall dock]

Other sitting stations yes, In almost everyone its weird

[ornate stump]

Their are all the same? That would mean your sitting layer is configure incorrectly.

[molten inlet]

wiat vrcaht supported animated texutre off sets this whole time?

is there like a tutorial that teaches you? im not really used to unity.

[ornate stump]

It's just a basic material property. Just do material recording like usual and record the offset change.

[molten inlet]

in that cause i couldve jsut used the normal model i use for my animatons

i would still need to edit it to not be a transpaenrt sprite tho if i want to do quest compat

i still hate that...

[molten inlet]

how do i map the nimations to per say lip syncing and eye poses?

does the SDK allow that?

[ornate stump]

Use Viseme parameter for lipsync. There is no eye poses from avatar descriptor.

[molten inlet]

got it

[modern glen]

i cant stop imagining what agony your pfp is going through

[molten inlet]

its just david tennant screaming "IM DOCTOR WHO"

[molten inlet]

one more question, can i aniamte UVs with the editor or nah

[ornate stump]

No.

[molten inlet]

fuck... so i gotta make each mouth texture a sepamterial...

got it.

time to figure out what are limiations for quest so i can see what i can cut out :p

[arctic ginkgo]

?

You do not have to

Just animate texture offset

[molten inlet]

what does offset do? Move the texture around the face?

....

isnt that just what UV animating iss???

god im stupid as soon i leave blender i get the most basics of basic worng

thanks mates

[tall dock]

The sitting layer is the one from gogo loco, that's why im confused

[ornate stump]

Can you show how you add gogoloco then?

[tall dock]

Sure

[quasi tundra]

I'm trying to cut textures out of a Vroid model by using the cut tool in blender, but whenever I put it back into unity, the lip syncing gets messed up. I think that other things are getting messed up as well, and ai support suggests that metadata is being lost.

The original issue was transparency turning black when using a quest shader, so I ported the vrm file to blender using a vrm importer plugin, and it seems like stuff is breaking.

[tall dock]

Honestly I just imported the gogoloco unitypackage and dragged the golocosittingWD into the layer

[quasi tundra]

In blender, it looks like there are no shape keys named "v.aa v.ch v.dd" etc.
In fact, it looks like none of the shape keys work now.

[junior void]

Happens if you leave any modifiers other than armature on

[quasi tundra]

It's not even that, it seems. The base vrm model converts fine and keeps all lip syncing, but if I put the original into blender, touch nothing, export it, and put it into unity, it breaks.

[junior void]

Well, is your original in unity converted from vrm using a funky unity plugin and now youre overwriting that with a proper export from blender?

[quasi tundra]

It seems like the opposite. Everything is fine until things are run through blender.

[junior void]

It seems that way bc you started with a whack conversion

Its convenient but brings problems

If you were to work only with the proper fbx from blender youd have no issues. It should make sense that you cant overwrite a unity-plugin converted file with an export from a different program

[tall dock]

When the physbones are activated on the toes, I don't want em to rotate on the y axis, just go up or down because when walking it looks weird

[quasi tundra]

Starting with which conversion? I'm starting by taking a vrm model that I bought, and putting that into blender. There is more data in the model when I don't put it into blender, vs when I do. Everything is fine with the model except for that textures look bad when using a quest shader

[junior void]

Limit the angle?

[tall dock]

How?

[junior void]

In the physbone settings

Hinge limit seems to be what you want

[junior void]

I understood that you used a vrm converter through unity first

My bad then

[quasi tundra]

Nah, putting it directly into blender, and it seems like necessary keyframes are being lost

[junior void]

I dont get what is missing then

Textures fine, you need to make materials in unity anyway

So what data is missing

[hardy steppe]

im uploading my first avatar on the new pc i got, and for some reason i cant switch to android?? i used to be able to upload ios and android on my old laptop, does anyone know how to fix this :(

[stiff shoal]

make sure you have android build support for unity

[hardy steppe]

how do i get tht??

[stiff shoal]

go to the unity releases where it says manual installs you can typically find it by searching unity 2022.3.22f1 and scroll down to component installers and there should be a android build support download that

[quasi tundra]

The whole dilemma:

into unity - works fine
try to make shaders quest compat - textures look bad - transparency issue
told to put into blender - remove faces that have bad textures - back into unity - lip syncing (and likely more) missing
lip syncing comes from keyframes (v.aa v.ch v.dd etc) - check keyframes in blender, missing

I can't edit my model in blender to fix textures

[junior void]

Ok

So when you cut out mesh as to remove transparent bits, you cannot create new vertices

You must cut at edge lines or else your shape keys break

[quasi tundra]

ahh

[junior void]

Disappearing shape keys mean you have a modifier somewhere on the model that unity dont like, so anything than armature

[hardy steppe]

ty!!

[quasi tundra]

first though - and sorry to interrupt - I've tried putting the model into blender, touching NOTHING, exporting, putting it back into unity, and it has the same issue

[stiff shoal]

np

[quasi tundra]

I don't think there's anything more than an armature

[junior void]

Check

If you used the vrm addon for blender/cats, there will be

I had that, it adds some random shit to modifiers

[quasi tundra]

just checked. The model is split into 3 parts, however. None of them have any modifiers except for armature

Or wait

do you mean before putting into blender?

[junior void]

No from blender

[quasi tundra]

Yeah, nothing in blender. It seems like it's being removed while importing

[junior void]

So are you sure shape keys are missing or is it just youre looking in the wrong place

[quasi tundra]

Where should I be looking?

where I am now

[junior void]

On the face mesh if its separate from the body in the data tab

Yes, they are there

So?

[quasi tundra]

Those are all user made, none are the v.aa v.whatever format

But the model seems to have those, because they show up in unity

[junior void]

Can you share the vrm thing showing those shapes?

What

Have you scrolled down in the list

[quasi tundra]

It's at the bottom in that one

Or wait

[junior void]

No it isnt

[quasi tundra]

There

also

[junior void]

Mesh: body

So is your face separate or not

[quasi tundra]

mhm

[junior void]

What mesh is it referencing in unity

Body would be wrong anyway

Sometimes auto fill sucks

If you fill in face, itll change it to whats really there

[quasi tundra]

Have never made an avatar, so I need clarification. Super sorry for that, I know it's frustrating to hear

[junior void]

Again, fill in the face slot

[quasi tundra]

The way it does it is weird. When the vrm is converted to a vrchat avatar in unity, the face, body, and hair all get combined into one mesh. Does that help?

Or is this what your'e looking for?

[junior void]

Youre not supposed to convert it to vrchat in unity

Thats exactly what i said earlier to not do

Youre mixing two methods and compare the output 1:1 which you cannot do. Im going back to work, sorry.

[quasi tundra]

You're alright, sorry for any time lost

And thank you for the help. I'm at least learning TwT

[modern glen]

my blend shapes did not export with the fbx

shape keys

[ornate stump]

If object had unapplied modifier other than armature, the blendshape will not get exported.

[modern glen]

i have a solidfy uhh modifier

[ornate stump]

Of course.

[quasi tundra]

It wasn't useless, I finally fixed the thing

[modern glen]

uh what do i do now

[ornate stump]

There is some addon that allow you to save shapekey, but I have no info on that.

[modern glen]

that sucks

[night ember]

Cant apply with shape keys

[modern glen]

yeah got that

[modern glen]

i have a new problem

my avatar is the herobrian

he looks well in the preview

never mind fixed that

but his mouth is always open im using blendshapes

[leaden stag]

What happens if an avatar I have keeps failing to generate an imposter?

[night ember]

Then its broken in some way?

[leaden stag]

Yea but how do I fix it? VrChat didnt give a reason why it didnt generate it just failed.

[spark walrus]

does it happen after using a gesture or is it like that from when you log on

[modern glen]

when i turn on my mic

im doing visemes thing

y

[spark walrus]

hmm

[modern glen]

it might be because my mic is bad so im might have someone with a better mic test it for me

can you do that?

[spark walrus]

i had like 2 scenarios in my head that i knew what to do in and that was not one lol sryyy

[spark walrus]

you might have to wait a lil while but sure

[modern glen]

alr i dm you the link

[teal laurel]

Can you check if you have the yaw bone unlinked? For the fbx

[modern glen]

Yaw bone?

I fixed the eyes but the mouth still has the same problem

[still shuttle]

https://squeezypixels.gumroad.com/l/shapekeywrap
A bit late but I think this is the add-on they where talking about?

[still shuttle]

Probably meant jaw bone in the configuration

I could be wrong tho. But ik I've had a problem with the mouth being open when I had an avi with a jaw bone

Just gotta un map it in unity and it fixed it for me

[balmy barn]

check is sil shapekey is closed mouth and unmap any jaw bone if its assigend , last thing id try is to remake the visemes (blender)

[digital kelp]

Do someone here can help me with the avatar ? I have a lot of error I don’t know how to solve it

And also when I try to import the avatar it just told me the avatar build has fails please cheek the logs

[junior void]

screenshot the first few errors and post the picture here

[digital kelp]

Here you go @junior void

[balmy barn]

handy

select and paste into discord

[junior void]

i meant the errors in the console as well

[digital kelp]

Oh wait

[junior void]

not the bad performance ones from the build screen as those are warnings but not errors

[digital kelp]

Those are all the errors I got captured @junior void

[balmy barn]

where is this av from and does it have instruction, you are missing scripts it requires

[digital kelp]

Script like what ?

[balmy barn]

thats the part you missed reading

[digital kelp]

Which part ?

[somber sequoia]

the part that tells you to install a bunch of packages for this to work, such as Gogo Loco and face tracking

[balmy barn]

** where is this av from and does it have instruction **

[digital kelp]

That a lot of things I need to learn but also that the first time I have ever upload an avatar so I don’t have a knowledge as you have guys ….

[balmy barn]

you got it from somewhere, what page is it

read its instructions

[junior void]

id also like to know where you downloaded this from

aha

[balmy barn]

shocking

[digital kelp]

I’m gonna send you in dm

[somber sequoia]

oh, there.

[junior void]

so you rip avatars and then ask here for support

[teal laurel]

*jaw, my bad xd

Sometimes when having toe and jaw linked can create issues, like half open mouth / not closing or toes not moving.
-# The jaw works for me on my nardo but the toe for example breaks.

https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/ta2Toks5bwmeYTJ/preview?e=e
https://blackwolfwoof.com/s/ekZ7T8E5oPGw63i/preview

ah yes, e🅱️ic embed fail

just open in browser if it doesn't load, idk

[modern glen]

Well I don't have jaw bones

I'm using viseims shape keys or whatever it's called

[junior void]

your rig may have one regardless

my avi use blendshaoes too but has a jaw bone that needs unmapping

[modern glen]

Nope my rig doesn't have a jawbone

I might have to

Check the tutorial again

[sharp oasis]

I want to make a particle emitter for smoke that always floats upwards, regardless of the orientation of the source.

Adding negative gravity to it eithe rmakes it too fast, or the smoke lags behind any source rotation, meaning it goes out sideways for a moment before "catching up" and then going upwards again.
Would it be better to put the emmiter on a physbone that's always pointing upwards?

[lucid sundial]

i wanted to make avatar of my OC character
however it requires unity to make

[sharp oasis]

yes all avatars need unity

[lucid sundial]

it need a lisence to get one.

[sharp oasis]

you can get a free lisence becuase you're not using it as a company

[lucid sundial]

i downloaded 2019.4.31f1 installer set up
and then?

[sharp oasis]

personal license I believe it's called

[balmy barn]

get a newer unity for one

[sharp oasis]

the vrchat creator companion will help you with unity versions and all that as vrchat now uses a 2022 version

[balmy barn]

https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.22 | manual/hub if you need some other version

[terse citrus]

hello!! im troubleshooting an issue for an avatar im making and i wonder if anybody knows how to fix this:
the model i am making requires rotation constraints as i am giving it skirt physics and all that stuff, but the constraints on the front bone of the skirt makes it rotate inwards creating this really odd shape
i also embedded a picture of the costraint itself, it seems it is the issue as i have disabled it and the skirt acted fine afterwards
any tip is appreciated!!

[somber sequoia]

under advanced, perhaps checking the local orientation box helps

[terse citrus]

do you mean the solve in local space checkbox? checking that made the bone move completely outwards

[somber sequoia]

yes, that was the one I was thinking of. We can't see your bone or constraint orientations from the pics, so I was just guessing that might help.

[lucid sundial]

i cant beable to open unity anymore

[junior void]

is that a question

[lucid sundial]

hey look

still 2022.322f1

can i change it?

[somber sequoia]

change what?

[lucid sundial]

change to 2019.4.31f1

[somber sequoia]

why would you want to though?

you're already on the correct version.

[lucid sundial]

hmm... okay

okay need to turn this into AVATAR this time. i need a sample.

do i need the sample? or a new form?

[somber sequoia]

sample of what?

[lucid sundial]

the avatar skeleton

[somber sequoia]

there's a pinned image in #avatar-rigging - perhaps this helps?

[supple reef]

why my problem?

[somber sequoia]

missing script.

[somber sequoia]

oh just script error - can you scroll up in the console and paste the first 2-3 error messages?

[somber sequoia]

nothing above that? huh, annoying.

[supple reef]

I also don't understand, I only have GogoLoco from external sources, there is nothing else. Everything works well in play mode.

[covert radish]

Running into a really strange issue 🥲. I want to upload an Avatar but it keeps thinking it's a different one in the SDK so I can't upload it separately as a new Avatar and I'm getting so frustrated with this.

How do I get the SDK to upload as a separate Avatar.

[somber sequoia]

clear the blueprint Id, it'll be a new avatar when uploaded

[covert radish]

Blueprint ID?

How?

[somber sequoia]

button that says 'detatch' in the Pipeline Manager component on the avatar root

[somber sequoia]

that ^

if that's empty, it's a new avatar when uploaded.

[covert radish]

I feel so dumb. Thank you 😂!!!

[delicate wind]

So I have some license and a few avatar models but I don't know where to start sense I'm cerently using blender

[covert radish]

Clarify?

If you want to figure out how to start modeling, on download pages for the models you can download an FBX file. import the FBX file to edit it in Blender. Then add all you want to it.

[delicate wind]

The issue is most of the files don't have a FBX file or they don't have any textures at all

[somber sequoia]

what kind of model file do you have then?

[delicate wind]

The one I'm trying to work with is chibigen and nova beast

[idle quartz]

the pupils of my avatar are transparent which reveals the clipping of the cheek fur behind it and makes it look like cataracts lol

how fix

[delicate wind]

That I have no clue it might just be a render thing

[idle quartz]

thats the eye texture

its solid color in the middle so i dunno why only the pupils are transparent

[delicate wind]

Thats werid

[idle quartz]

what are you trying to do with the avatars

reshape their models or just add clothing and change the colors?

[delicate wind]

I'm mainly trying to retexture as of right now

[somber sequoia]

well yes, this is what transparent means, you'll see what's behind. You'd need something behind to block that, or hide the cheek fur in a different way

[supple reef]

I solved the problem. I just created a new Unity project, I don't know how it works.

[idle quartz]

you do that in substance painter with the subtance painter files

then you export each texture and map that the model requires

[delicate wind]

Is there like a app I need to download

[idle quartz]

but why are only the pupils transparent? they dont use a transparent texture

only transclipping in poiyomi gets it to look how i want it too

[idle quartz]

adobe substance painter

which costs like $60 lol

[somber sequoia]

I haven't seen your shader settings so it's hard to know

[idle quartz]

or you can edit textures in photoshop or an equivalent program

[idle quartz]

turning everything off besides the albedo doesnt do anything

i'll show you the albedo settings

[somber sequoia]

but you're using fade rendering mode? that's going to be semi transparent depending on the alpha channel in the albedo texture

[somber sequoia]

yeah trans clipping is transparent with clipping at a certain threshold

[idle quartz]

is there a way to make it clip at a different place?

[somber sequoia]

"alpha cutoff" iirc

[idle quartz]

lemme try that

[somber sequoia]

or if you mean actual place then again, that depends on the alpha channel of the image. You can make the texture not transparent and use the alpha map slot

[idle quartz]

kinda fucks up the color of the iris

[idle quartz]

how would i go about just putting something behind the eyes to block whats seen behind

like a 2d black square

and also make it track with the head and not clip

[somber sequoia]

add faces in blender

[idle quartz]

is there any way with unity cus i dont touch blender

[somber sequoia]

maybe you could add a plane or something? I wouldn't do it this way at all.

[idle quartz]

hm will try

[tidal radish]

does anyone know of a good way to keep "rebake offsets when unfrozen" in a parent constraints position synced correctly for remote users?

[lucid sundial]

where is the texture tutoriel channal?

[somber sequoia]

there isn't really?

[lucid sundial]

no

[steep frost]

Is there a reason my vrm converter just, dosen't exist?

[stuck oxide]

anyone know how to fix this? ive checked as many bones as i can and its not weighted to anything and its fully weight paintedto the leg, but its still like this

[somber sequoia]

I'd suggest converting to FBX (and cleaning up the model as needed) in Blender, rather than using this.

[somber sequoia]

Unless you've got the weights normalized, red doesn't mean 100%. I'd turn on auto-normalize and re-do the weight paint, or there's an option in the menu somewhere to normalize it all.

Here probably you have too much weight for a different bone.

[stuck oxide]

how do i normalize it?

[somber sequoia]

https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/grease_pencil/modes/weight_paint/weights_menu.html#normalize

er, grease pencil? wrong link.

it's in one of the menus while weight painting, I forget which

ah yes, in the weights menu, "normalize all"

[stuck oxide]

i mean it kinda worked?

its still really off

[balmy barn]

id weight transfer if it still misbehave remove skin or uv discard ( sometime the things are too low poly and will clip no matter )

[lucid sundial]

do i add armeture?

because i dont think they are armetures here

[late heath]

does anybody have any idea how to make eyelook control blendshapes (or perhaps animation clips)? character has fairly stylized eyes and id like to try something different rather than bones with a rotation constraint

[frigid glade]

So I’m trying to make my own afk pose for my avatar. I have gogo loco on my avatar so I added the animation in through there and everything looks okay other than the fact that for some reason when in vrchat the facial expression defaults to my open right hand facial expression when it’s supposed to look like how it does in unity. Does anyone know how to fix this??

[balmy barn]

lost me at gogoloco , make sure face stuff is in fx

[frigid glade]

Doesnt this need to be in the action layer tho since it’s for the afk???

And it’s all one animation

[balmy barn]

blendshapes dont work in action

moving anything humanoid bone = action, rest in fx

[frigid glade]

Hmmm…how would I go about getting the facial expression to work with the afk pose then??

[balmy barn]

just detect afk = do animation , not afk , go back to wait

[ wait ] < not afk | afk > [ do animation ]

[frigid glade]

Oki doki, I’ll have a crack at it. Tyyyyy

[balmy barn]

blendtree way exsist just fast mockup

[wary jewel]

so my generic rigs arent allowing my voice to be heard when i speak but it was working fine like 3 days ago

[arctic ginkgo]

You can use position constraints to move two contact receivers along the X and Y axes respectively, tracking an empty in front of and parented to the eye bone. Then you set up a contact sender for these proximity receivers, so they give you X and Y float values. Then you can animate using these values.

[thin egret]

Hi everyone, what do I need to do to be able to upload because I have this message displayed?

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[rare yarrow]

What’s the easiest way to optimize the polygon count of my avatar?

[final fractal]

depends on the type of topology you have

[final fractal]

why are you using generic rigs exactly?
Are you just uploasing them as generic rigs?

[rare yarrow]

How do I tell? I bought it pre-made.

[final fractal]

I see, you can take it into blender and manually dissolve the edges ig

[rare yarrow]

How? I’ve used blender once and all I was able to do is spawn in a cube.

[indigo compass]

Not tested it, but heard about https://github.com/lilxyzw/lilNDMFMeshSimplifier, but it has been discontinued and they recommend using https://github.com/RamType0/Meshia.MeshSimplification instead, haven't used that one either though.

But like, dissolving edge loops will looks sooo much better

Any decimation will have a noticable effect on the entire avatar.

[wary jewel]

its just for one avatar cuz the model is weird and hard to make a humanoid rig for it

tho i fixed the issue of the voice thing

[rare yarrow]

I just want it to overall look the same, but obviously fit under whatever the max polygon count to not be Very Poor is.

[indigo compass]

When I optimize poly count I always bring all meshes into Blender for that reason there are generally always something you could remove or dissolve on a mesh without being able to see it.

[rare yarrow]

I may be dumb what file format is the mesh

[indigo compass]

Almost always .fbx

[rare yarrow]

I’m sorry I’m very slow how do I open it in blender

This is like basically my first time using it

[indigo compass]

I can't help you through using Blender for the first time just fyi, you should really go through some beginner guide first, make your first donut, before you touch anything else.

[rare yarrow]

Ah

[indigo compass]

But like, be careful, you need to export it the same way it was originally exported.
You should always disable leaf bones, "Apply Scaling" should likely be set to FBX All

The importing is here though

[wary loom]

How do I make a avatar.. I wanna know

[sleek moat]

i forget how to do clothes on avatars, any idea how to get it normal when going in play mode

[arctic ginkgo]

A good place to start is with youtube tutorials. You need a PC though. Any computer/laptop is fine as long as it isn't a chromebook. However if you are running MacOS or Linux, you need to install ALCOM instead of VCC

[wary loom]

Fuck.. I don't have a pc

[arctic ginkgo]

You need a program to make your models (Blender is the most popular and it's free) as well as a Unity account, free unity personal license, Unity Hub, and Unity editor version 2022.3.22f (that's off the top of my head, so the version number could be wrong)

[arctic ginkgo]

Yeah, unfortunately that is a requirement

[arctic ginkgo]

If you have money to spare you can commission an avatar, but you will need a PC to upload it. Some creators however will upload to their own accounts though, but it will need to be set to public in order for you to use it

[wary loom]

sigh looks like I'll be using a Astolfo avatar when I get vr chat until I make one

[arctic ginkgo]

Also i don't want to advertise, and my comms are closed rn anyways, but once they open, if you happen to be wanting an FPE avatar, I actually do make those

Ah alright looks like you're not, just wanted to check though :]

[wary loom]

Do I have to model if I make avatar?

[arctic ginkgo]

No, not if you kitbash

Kitbashing is where you take parts from other models and combine them together

[wary loom]

Ooooo

[sleek moat]

people sell models that you can use when making it

[wary loom]

Cuz I wanna remake my oc

[arctic ginkgo]

But no matter what, if you want to make one on your own, you will need a PC

[wary loom]

Okii

This is a surprisingly chill and nice server

[arctic ginkgo]

But also if you ever do want help with fpe style models lmk, since again, I do make those

Just cool seeing an fpe fan in the wild lol

[wary loom]

How u tell lol

[arctic ginkgo]

Alice pfp lol

[wary loom]

Lol it's hard to find active people in the fandom now

[arctic ginkgo]

I made a bunch of public avis like Claire, mister demi, miss circle, Engel, miss bloomie

[wary loom]

Nice!

[arctic ginkgo]

And also one of the fpe worlds

I think it's 2nd most popular

It's the one that looks like the paper style, not gremzies (the one that's colored)

[wary loom]

Noice!

[tough glen]

Does anyone have a avi world that has avis with afros

[night ember]

#1138520828556890214

[prisma flare]

So i uploaded an avi recently, just hopped in to test and i can't scale, it'll move my viewpoint but won't grow the avi

any idea why?

[steep sable]

which is better for the eyebrows

[teal laurel]

Most easiest to see is the white eyebrowe, but i like the black one more. @steep sable

[rare yarrow]

I like white the best