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[arctic ginkgo]

it's highlighting them in blue, meaning those values are in fact animated, but it's not actually changing them

same thing happens when I press the record button (except they are highlighted red)

and if i press the record button and then change a value, the other values switch in the animation to what is showing in the inspector

I'll just try reopening my project i guess..

[fathom bobcat]

why is my gesture manager rred?

[arctic ginkgo]

that happens when you're missing the prefab, which likely means the file is missing. Try reinstalling gesture manager.

[arctic ginkgo]

nope.. still didn't fix it.. wtf is going on??

[fathom bobcat]

I already did, but its still red

[arctic ginkgo]

try removing the prefab and then adding it back into the scene

[river jewel]

so quick question: if let's say I used unity constraints on my beloved daggers, would they automatically turn into vrc constraints? coz genuinely I am struggling to make contact toggles and at this point I'm literally gonna use unity constraints

Google and chatgpt counldnt gimme a straight answer

[somber sequoia]

no but there's a converter tool in the SDK, I think it shows up in the build window

there isn't a whole lot of point in using a Unity one, the VRC ones do the same thing but (for our uses) better.

[river jewel]

GIMME

which one

[somber sequoia]

I'm actually reinstalling Unity so I can't look at the moment 🙂

[river jewel]

I tried using vrc parent constraints to make contact toggles but failed ;-;

[somber sequoia]

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "contact toggle"

[river jewel]

it's in sippbox's tutorial, well ya see

how do I explain this

I want these 2 daggers to be sheathed and unsheathed

[somber sequoia]

sure

[maiden lotus]

With a big size model what the best approach to to make the thigh not puncture thru the body.

[grand scaffold]

goodness me

[river jewel]

tf??

[round comet]

Lord have mercy

[river jewel]

well I mean

you can be whatever you wanna be in vrc

plus most of us here got female avis anyways so we can't be talking

[round comet]

[river jewel]

now I just need to figure out that one tool to convert ma shit into vrc constraints

and not even Google could give me a straight answer on that

[somber sequoia]

is there a message in your build window? probably near the bottom?

[round comet]

If you swap your build to Android it can auto-convert the constraints when you autofix

It’ll ask if you wanna convert your constraints to the vrchat ones

[river jewel]

what the message in yellow text at the bottom of unity?

[river jewel]

I-

so it can convert automatically??

[somber sequoia]

at the bottom of the build console, I thought that's where it shows up

[river jewel]

me confused

[round comet]

Its an autofix thing you click in the sdk window

I just cant recall if you need to swap the build to android for it to show lol. Open your sdk

[river jewel]

OOOOH

[somber sequoia]

I didn't think so - I've seen it and I almost never make android content

found it?

[river jewel]

it's an autofix thing

well Oki doki

[round comet]

Yes

[river jewel]

wait will it break my shit if I use it?

[somber sequoia]

probably not

[river jewel]

ok PHEW

[somber sequoia]

(make backups, as always)

[river jewel]

god this is better than relying on some ai to help me ;-;

[river jewel]

how

[somber sequoia]

copy the project to wherever you like

I use git for mine, but as a software engineer, that's just a normal thing to do 🙂

[river jewel]

Oki doki I'll do that from vrc creator companion

[soft aurora]

Anyone can help? Please?

[somber sequoia]

how is this setup?

[soft aurora]

wdym

I did say how i set it up

process here

Unless thats not what you want, Incase im not sure

[somber sequoia]

so there are bones on the cymbals, which you're making physbones with colliders?

[soft aurora]

I want them to collide with the sticks

Like when i put the stick with the collider near it it pushes it, I want it to hit it

[somber sequoia]

can you show the gizmos or something so we can see what the cymbal looks like?

[soft aurora]

Yeah hold

[somber sequoia]

(or if you did that already, link to the image, I don't see it)

[somber sequoia]

oh I see

yeah I'm not sure you can get the capsule flat enough for that to work well

[soft aurora]

Hmm

So theres no way for it to not push it?

Like this?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure, haven't actually tried something like this.

Looks like an interesting challenge though

[soft aurora]

Ive seen some avi creators that do beatles and green day do it somehow

I can show you a vid when i get on vr and record

Ill do it rq

[arctic ginkgo]

try enabling the contact overlay and the phsybone overlay to see if and how they are using those components

[soft aurora]

How do i do that in vr?

[soft aurora]

this?

Does this seem like a hard process?

[somber sequoia]

that works a lot better than I expected

[soft aurora]

So, what could be the fix?

[arctic ginkgo]

honestly I'm not sure how they did it..

i'm a little busy rn but if you send the link to the avatar I may be able to try it later and see if I can figure out how it works

[soft aurora]

Ok one sec

[eager acorn]

I'm using shader graph but that causes a seeing double like effect. Can anybody tell me why?

[soft aurora]

https://vrchat.com/home/avatar/avtr_e3bdd37c-c45b-4692-b5e7-45fbe47fdb08

[unkempt marsh]

Do yall think this is ok to upload on quest or too laggy?

I don't use quest so I don't know how much that would impact it

[night ember]

itd be hidden by default entirely

[unkempt marsh]

I know that, but if someone chooses to show it

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

cant really say much with numbers alone

[unkempt marsh]

and if it's hidden by default that means they see my fallback right?

[night ember]

or the imposter if one is created and they have them set to use

[cinder frost]

diet

[unkempt marsh]

I wish there was some way to see how the avatar actually performs rather than relying on just the stats

[night ember]

actually use the hardware

[unkempt marsh]

I think it might only have 6 draw calls and a lot of other stuff that aren't shown in stats have been optimized so I figure I'll be fine

[night ember]

it doesnt look that bad albeit something that was probably made for pc that was attempted to be shoved onto quest

[green epoch]

Good evening, excuse me, I’m new to VR Chat. Do you know if it’s possible to create our own avatar?

[night ember]

but then again the most optimized stat wise avatars can cause issues and crashes

[night ember]

blender

[desert elk]

kitbash, vroid, from scratch in blender

[green epoch]

is it possible to do it on Meta Quest?

[desert elk]

without a PC/laptop? No

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495

[green epoch]

ah

Do you know if there are any avatars of the actress Nina Dobrev, who plays several characters in the series The Vampire Diaries?

[desert elk]

#1138520828556890214

[green epoch]

Very well, thank you very much. Sorry for all these questions!

[jade parcel]

So is there anything in game I can do to trick the system when calibrating to fix my arms from stretching to the max as if the arms were made shorter than my actual arm/controller length?

For context if anyone is familiar with foxipaws avatars. Their cyber alt wolf is what my avatars base is using.

[ruby marsh]

for posterity, solved:
despite unity hub claiming that windows build support was installed, it was apparently not
i reinstalled unity alltogether alongside windows build support several times, with no results
but installing unity from the specific download assistant from https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.22 worked like a charm

[little cliff]

Can't upload as well as a new user, but can verify the the CLI worked on Linux.

Sadly I can't purchase credit through my Vive Elite XR either so I don't think there's a way for me to actually get any avatars. Would be nice if I can purchase through a webstore.

[somber sequoia]

right below this image should be a dropdown with the error.

[nocturne wagon]

using the latest and reccomended version of unity, why is it doing this?

[umbral oriole]

yoou need to install andriod add on

[nocturne wagon]

where can I find that

[umbral oriole]

unity hub

click on intalls you will see your version of unity

then click the right click and look at modules

intall the adriod one

[stuck oxide]

ive added contain colliders, regular colliders, turned immobility up and the boobs still just clip through the chest when moving, how do i fix this?

[somber sequoia]

usually, better weight painting

[stuck oxide]

ill try my best 💔

[somber sequoia]

Good luck! It usually takes me a few passes

[stuck oxide]

so like remove the weight painting from the chest so the boobs are only weight painted to the boob bones?

[somber sequoia]

it's really hard to say without watching it move

[little cliff]

Never mind, just got access.

[stuck oxide]

hold

[somber sequoia]

oh I didn't mean that you should show a video, I meant it's hard to figure out how the weight paint should be unless you're actually working on painting it in Blender, moving around the bones and watching how vertices move.
Don't be afraid to actually reshape the mesh too, often just making it be further from the body is the way to fix things.

[stuck oxide]

this is how its currently weighted ive never weighted a body before so im not sure what needs changing

[somber sequoia]

I usually try to recreate the position I observed in-game, and see what clips, then adjust.

[stuck oxide]

im so confused sorry 💔

[somber sequoia]

I'd suggest finding a tutorial on weight painting, it's easier to understand when you can see it.

[nocturne wagon]

how can I fix this

[neat crow]

help my camra in in my chest

[somber sequoia]

Look for errors above that one, it's probably not the root cause.

[neat crow]

i got boob cam

[rough jewel]

hey chat

im having trouble figuring out how to properly set up audiolink for something like this

[umbral oriole]

have you not tweaked the [hysbonme setting themselves i would reccommend increasing fiddling around with them to generally increase rgidity

[stuck oxide]

i did

[umbral oriole]

hmmm

[rough jewel]

i dunno if the mask im using (right photo) is correct. it says in the documentation RGB: Volume/Band/Intensity

[umbral oriole]

no matter how i see it. it looks like a physbone issue hard for me to really make any definitive guesses unless i ahve that avi in playmode on unity to tweak and fiddle around

[radiant night]

1 more thing. some people like to add clipping blendshapes to their avatars, for example if your arm os completely covered you could add a blendshape that shrinks all the topology of the arms and have it toggle when animated

[umbral oriole]

go into configure likely to see the error there

[stuck oxide]

ive already done that aswell

im pretty sure its just weight painting im messing with it atm

[radiant night]

👍

[umbral oriole]

hope it goes well

[radiant night]

Weight painting can be very annoying, good luck

[stuck oxide]

me too or my curvedmonitor might become more curved than it already is

[rough jewel]

lastly, when i enter play mode, it looks like this and not emissive audio bands

[umbral oriole]

ngl the weightpainting you already showed semed more then decent enough to im just as confused

[stuck oxide]

yeah

im just weighting it more to the chest so theyre more secure if that makes sense

its helped a bit

[umbral oriole]

ok i feel you

well if you are down i woul;d like to see how the avi behaves in unity maybe there is something im missing

[radiant night]

The unsheath option (It says sheath currently) isn't working. instead it just closes the arm and the toggle stop working, I am very bad with mecanim so I don't know if there is something I am doing wrong. Is there anything obvious that I should correct?
Mantis toggle toggles the arm, blade toggle makes the blade rise, and sheath toggle is self-explanatory

[stuck oxide]

idrk how to show it in unity i just use gesture manager not so much animations

[radiant night]

Its not the same video btw

[umbral oriole]

yeah exactly you can grab the avi bvase and just giggle it around to test the physbones in playmode

[stuck oxide]

in play mode it doesnt look all that bad its justi n game

[umbral oriole]

hmmm

[soft aurora]

Anyone else figure this out?

[umbral oriole]

ok im looking at the fx and im trying to simplify each section into seperate blocks and understand how it works so far i see that there are some unnecessary conditions

for the arm open toggle to open them up you really only need the open parameter to be true no need to check all the others for sheath and and blad rise
then for closing the arms you would need to have those checks but you could aslo include parameter drivers instead that would cause the blade sheath and blade rise to turn false

same goes for blade rise to riseup you only need to check for if arm is open and then blade rise toggle is on. then to close the blade only check for if sheathed and blade rise toggle you could also do as beefore and make a prameter driver to retract the blade when the toggle off is hit

then for the sheathe this would have to only check if blade rise is on instead of checking arm open since if arm isnt open blade rise wouldnt be on either so reducing complexity and checks needed
and to re sheath only need to check the sheathe toggle if false then sheathe

@radiant night after looking it opver this is what i could come up with to help

im not entirely sure why your toggles brake but simplifying things will make it a lot easier to find points of failure

[radiant night]

Thank you. im trying these now

[umbral oriole]

and reduce also reduce redundant checks

hope it helps

[unkempt iris]

hi ok assumin i have to make an armature for physbones in blender- what do i connect it to? i have the body rigged and everything so do i just parent this rig to the body rig orr? do i keep it a seperate armature

[somber sequoia]

ideally you just have one armature, no need for more unless you're selling an asset.

make the root bone of the hair bones be a direct child of the head, that's all

[unkempt iris]

okok!

[neat crow]

my avatar is headless and the camra is in the ground

[unkempt iris]

how do i get the hairbones to actually move the hair and not.. nothing 😭

[still shuttle]

Did you weight paint the hair to the bones?

[unkempt iris]

probably not i have no idea what im doing 😢 the hair moves as a whole when i move the head bone or neck bone but not when i try moving the hair bones

[night ember]

so you didnt

[unkempt iris]

this is my first model dude

[somber sequoia]

mesh moves along with bones because of weight paint. No weight paint, no movement

[still shuttle]

Yeah you'll have to actually rig the hair to move and that includes weight painting the mesh to the proper bones

[somber sequoia]

(it'll still get dragged along with your root bone though)

[unkempt iris]

how do i weight paint it to those bones..

[somber sequoia]

weight painting is the kind of thing that a video tutorial will be best for, it's very visual

[steady marsh]

hey is anyone else having an issue where the packages for the SDK in the unity project are just not showing up in unity itself? like i can see all the stuff is there but everything is just not?

like i can go to the control and upload an avatar but all the stuff that would be showing up in packages are just not showing up in unity itself

[somber sequoia]

click on the eyeball in the upper right of the project window

[unkempt iris]

i have fixed the hair not moving with the hair bones but now i have the problem of some parts of the hair is moving with the wrong bones.. even though it is one mesh unrelated to those other bones

[wanton cedar]

anyone know why this happens in substance painter? none of the uv maps are overlapping, i made sure of it. Its also mirroring parts that arent supposed to be mirrored . first picture is in blender

[rapid needle]

Still in need of help if anyone knows how to fix this please qwq

[somber sequoia]

Maybe if you post the stats from the build console, it's difficult to suggest anything without a clue as to what might be the issue

[unkempt iris]

found out this is a weight painting issue but it literallty wont let me correct it manually. im trying to wait pain the parts to zero on those bones but they arent changing

[somber sequoia]

if you really mean zero, don't weight paint, just remove the vertices from the weight group

[lilac musk]

Start with very basic build of the Avatar. Drag the fbx into the scene, Put an avatar descriptor on it with minimum settings, upload. If that uploads fine, then you'll know that it's not the fbx itself. It's something else and just keep working at it by adding things slowly one at a time until you find out what's causing the security checks to trigger

[rapid needle]

It's a bought avi, so im not too sure how things were placed on it, but I think I can try that out, thank you very much!

[lilac musk]

Could also contact the creator and see if they have any insite

[proper storm]

can you make a constrainted object bounce around instead of just look for the target?

this is a bit difficult, tried rigidbody and it lags a lot

jittery

i saw someone use a constraint and it bouced around the target and wasnt staying still dunno how to do that

oh wait

spring joint

[lavish hatch]

I tried uploading this avatar for my bf but this is all that comes up

[wanton cedar]

clear the blueprint and upload it again

if there is a blueprint

[somber sequoia]

scroll up, paste the first 2-3 errors from the console. The ones you've shown are mostly side-effects of what's not visible

[lavish hatch]

It just says the same thing again

I tried multiple times

[somber sequoia]

Then see if there is a blueprint ID. I'm betting not, I can see a different error there, just barely.

[lavish hatch]

I tried re loading unity and it didn’t work

[proper storm]

Can you make the spring joint anchor dynamic and be fixed to a target?

id expect so but have no idea how

stuck up here should be down at hand

[somber sequoia]

You have a missing script

That probably means you didn't install a requirement, check the creator's website or documentation to see what it might be

Re: that blueprint error - that's a side-effect. Always check the first few errors, at the top, not the last.

[somber sequoia]

The anchor is a rigid body, put it onto a bone or something

[lavish hatch]

i dont know what its missing and the website didnt say anything, it just listed the toggels

[somber sequoia]

it's hard to see what it might be from just the errors

if you can find the actual error, it may say which object the broken script is on

[proper storm]

yeah i have it to my finger

[somber sequoia]

good, that should work

[proper storm]

yeah it doesnt like that

weirdly

it still throws it up there

you can see it starts there, though

and then gets pulled back to the anchor

oh

i put it in the wrong parent?

nope, still has the same effect

that stupid anchor isnt moving

[cinder frost]

Quick VRC Station question: do state behaviors work?

I.e. in a station's animator, can I add a pose space state or a tracking control state?

[heavy zephyr]

Yes you can

[naive copper]

Y'all, I've been trying to find this one emote from the fortnite icon series, that goofy Prince of Egypt dance

Only problem is that I can't find it at ALL, I even downloaded the entirety of the icon series emotes and still had no luck ;-;

If someone has that anim, I'll be happy to take it

[cinder frost]

Does it end upon exit?

[heavy zephyr]

Unsure, test it and see. If I were to guess, it probably does since you wouldn't want smt like Pose Space to linger

[cinder frost]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking

[fallow grail]

so im trying to fix this weird issue, once i enter playmode this happens but i dont know whats happening

[radiant night]

Is it possible to have each eye be controlled manually, independant of each other? I know you can have them both controlled at the same time but idk if seperating them is possible

For example, I want to have each eyelid be controlled by the grip button but I dont know where to start

I want to be able to mimic this gif

https://tenor.com/view/smooth-brain-kitty-boykisser-gif-8234569603800668383

Oh, right

[night ember]

separate blendshapes

[umbral oriole]

thats a cool avatar you got there

[radiant night]

How do I detect what button is being pressed?

[radiant night]

Also your tips helped me fix the issue, thank you

[umbral oriole]

yayyyyyy im so glad i helped. i literally had to sit with a pen and note book and rewatch your vid of the fx layer a few times to come up with it

[radiant night]

I saw you typing for a few minutes lol

[umbral oriole]

im guessing you mean gestures. so first of all there are a couple ways you can go about this the way you want to do it is interesting best way is to see if the avatar has blendshapes for blinking if you are lucky it might have blendshapes for individual eye blinks if not then your gonna make those blendshapes in blender and then animate the frog blink and set it to loop then make a toggle for it

[umbral oriole]

yeah had to theory craft in my head

[radiant night]

Not really gestures, at least I dont think. I want to be able to tell when a specific button is pressed, independant from the others

[umbral oriole]

do you have vercfury in your project? since its sps thats my first guess

[umbral oriole]

oh? hmm im not quite sure how possible that is. as far as i know gestures are your best bet, i think there is a gesture for each individual button press that doesnt open a menu

but i could be wrong

[radiant night]

I thought gestures could be controlled by multiple buttons but you are probably right

[umbral oriole]

well grip only will be finger gun
then trigger only will be rocknroll

those are pretty much the only buttons ytou can press lol

so about 4 buttons since left and right side are seperate

[radiant night]

I can work with that, ill just need to be careful about my hand placement in VR

Im going to head to bed now, thank you for the help

[umbral oriole]

is this for the frog blink? or do you have something else in mind?

[radiant night]

frog blink?

Oh

Yes

[umbral oriole]

i seee

hope it works out

[radiant night]

I think it would really funny to see a tiny furry with this face look directly into your eyes and slowly blink each eye

[umbral oriole]

wait you know you need to make a blendshape for each eye blinking right

[radiant night]

I do know how to make blendshapes

[umbral oriole]

sick well why go with the button thing instead of making an animation for the blinking seems way easier

[radiant night]

Yeah but wouldnt I need to be able to tell what buttons are being pressed to manually control the eyes?

Oh

lol, im pretty dumb

I see what you are saying

That would be a lot easier

[umbral oriole]

lol prob cause your tired lol

no worries i see where you are coming from i tend to over complicate stuff sometimes too

[radiant night]

Nope, I have had this idea for several weeks now and only came to that realization after you said it

[umbral oriole]

lmaoooooo

[radiant night]

Alright, good night for real this time

[umbral oriole]

good luck im also going to bed

[simple hill]

Hello? I might need help with a thing

im trying to swap heads where one head talks and the other one talks as well. Like a toggle where you can switch to see one talking and then switching to see the other one talking

[white sundial]

anybody got a clue why my eyes do this while i try to rotate?

[desert elk]

they'll probably need to be the same mesh. And for PC you can maybe make one of the materials disappear and the other one appeared to toggle them

[simple hill]

I did try to merge both of them in blender,but every time i do,the head disappears when unity updates them

[desert elk]

I don't, but you're using official cats on a version of blender it doesn't support, it can cause a lot of issues. I highly suggest switching to unofficial! it works way better
https://cats.neoneko.xyz/

because you're talking about them squashing?

[white sundial]

yea

[desert elk]

is there a particular reason you need to rotate them in blender?

because nowadays eye movement is set up in unity

that's why I suggested upgrading cats, because it's probably making you believe you need to set it up in blender, which isn't true

[white sundial]

this is testing the rig

[desert elk]

you'd do that in pose mode

[white sundial]

the bone is warping while it rotates in pose mode

[desert elk]

as, I didn't look at the video properly

it is in pose mode

are your bones positioned properly?

[white sundial]

they should be

[desert elk]

they're not

they should be vertical for vrchat

bigger circle at the bottom, small at the top

and bone roll set to 0

like this

[white sundial]

is this right? where's bone roll?

[desert elk]

yes, that's correct
in the "item" category in the side menu

[white sundial]

roll at 0 and as i put the bone

still same issue

[simple hill]

Do I need to do this so the head doesn't disappear when I merge in blender or is there an easier way?

[desert elk]

I don't even understand what this means. You can and should combine meshes in Blender. It's just Ctrl J.
When you say they disappear, what do you mean by that? Are you able to send a before and after screenshot?

[desert elk]

i unfortunately don't have any other ideas as I don't use circular eyes. Maybe someone else will know something

[simple hill]

the left is when they are seprated and the right they are merged

[unkempt iris]

in unity and my outlines are causing me 1 issue: the hands become entirely black,, nothing else on my model is having issues with the outlines

[desert elk]

1. why is your model unpacked?
2. did you apply all materials properly?

[simple hill]

my model was unpacked because some how, one of the props i made for it was packed for some reason? idk why. Second, I believe I did? I made sure all of them were.,but I'll check to be sure

I made sure and all are there. I'm thinking right now if using c.a.t.s for visemes was a bad idea

[desert elk]

that wouldn't cause the mesh being invisible

are those materials attached to the meshes?

oh

i see something off

could you tell me how you merged the meshes together?

because i see this

and on the hierarchy the meshes are separate

it looks like you didnt actually merge them at all

[simple hill]

i see. All i did was merging the pumpkin head and smaller head together. Do I need to merge everything together or is it specific?

[ornate stump]

You should just not "unpack" at all. It will make everything easier.

[desert elk]

it's not merged

[desert elk]

this too

never unpack

[ornate stump]

Unpacking will break object in the scene and stop it from update correcrtly with the fbx file, that's the whole mess happening right now.

[desert elk]

yup

i suggest dragging the new fbx is as a new one

[simple hill]

Is there a way to fix it?

[desert elk]

and not overriding

[desert elk]

start over and don't unpack

[ornate stump]

Drag the new file into the scene. Start from there.

[simple hill]

I see

the reason why i did that is because one of my props would not drag onto the hand I wanted to

thats why i unpacked it

[desert elk]

fix it in blender instead

of unpacking

[ornate stump]

Or use parent constraint.

[simple hill]

is it because if this?

[ornate stump]

You should have only one armature per fbx file.

[desert elk]

it looks very messy

[ornate stump]

That wasn't even merged.

Having multiple object within the same fbx file isn't called "merge". It's where you join multiple object into a single mesh.

[simple hill]

Oh okay

[desert elk]

yea

[simple hill]

I did have props before in one fbx and didn't have a problem,but i guess it just does this time

[ornate stump]

It's better to understand what actually is happening instead of just "guessing".

[simple hill]

right

so even if there needs to be one armature per file, is there a way to add them because I do want to add phys bones

[ornate stump]

To add what? If you had multiple mesh with its own armature got merged, you will have to merge the armature as well.

[simple hill]

So everything. Okay

[umbral oriole]

what does unpack mean??

[ornate stump]

The "Unpack Prefab" button. Make an object single instance and not have any external data link.

[umbral oriole]

oh interesting

i personally completely unpack when im working on an avatar

makes it easier for me in certain ways

never heard of it breaking an avatar before tho

weird

[ornate stump]

It usually is fine if you don't update its FBX file.

[umbral oriole]

ok interesting never encountered problems in those intances either but who knows maybe im just lucky lol. will keep it somewhat in mind for future reference as a potential source of issues

dang it forget they dont allow that lol

[ornate stump]

Updating some mesh vertex data is also fine, given you exported with correct export settings. But once you changed its object, that will mess thing up.

[umbral oriole]

interesting

[timber wharf]

or try and modify an armature

[ornate stump]

Especially when adding/removing bones.

[umbral oriole]

oh yeah i definetly agree there

in those cases i just use a new fbx and pumpkin over materials and other stuff

[ornate stump]

The weight of keeping it pack to automatically update is outweighted the hassle of keep copying over the new model.

[umbral oriole]

for me the convinience of not getting jump scared by the "THIS IS A PREFAB YOU CANT MOVE THAT" message and also just being able to fiddle with many things to my hearts content outweighs the pack thing for me.

but hey matter of personal preference yknow

[ornate stump]

You woudn't have that problem if you actually managed it correctly in blender.

[umbral oriole]

its not a problem lol. i just prefer not to have it

and no creator is perfect certianly not myself ofcourse i will make several iterations of an avatar im working on its just the worklow.

but if you can one and done from beginning to end with no problem or troubleshooting thats incredibly impressive

but i aint that good yet so i shall stay with my neanderthal ways and unpack my avatars

[ornate stump]

Hope that you don't recommend other people to do the same because unpacking has never been the answer.

[umbral oriole]

for you that may be for me it has been on more than one occasion, again genuinely just a difference in preference for something that really not that a big a deal

[ornate stump]

You might be surprise how many times I have to answer in this channel the solution of problem people are having is to not unpack. Sure you can do it your way if you know what to do. Just don't recommend people to do the same without them know what they're doing.

[simple hill]

So i joined the heads together,seeing if the other one moves with it. nothing

[ornate stump]

You will have to check weight paint for what you merged.

[umbral oriole]

ok sounds good lol. im sure there are issues that are solved by that ill try and look through here to see for myself.
p.s ill tell everyone i help to unpack

im joking btw

lol

[simple hill]

I'll check. so for the second head,does it need to be in the red or blue for weights?

[ornate stump]

Blue means zero, doing nothing. Red means one, follow that bone.

[simple hill]

okay

Another question, i was told if I want the second head to have the same visemes to move and talk exactly like the first head,how that is achived?

[ornate stump]

Is it the same mesh now?

[simple hill]

Yes. The first head is joined with the second

[ornate stump]

Does both part have their own visime shapekey?

[simple hill]

they do. the one without the 00.1 is the first head and the one that has 00.1 Infront of the visemes is the second head

[ornate stump]

Then you have to mix shapekey from both part into one shapekey. Probably by create new shapekey by using "Blend from shape" command.

[simple hill]

THAT"S WHAT I HAD TO DO! OMG!!! You are amazing and im just gonna pass out from just not thinking about that. I thank you so much for that...

im so sorry for bugging you so much. i was trying to figure out that one thing all day for hours and it was so simple

[unkempt iris]

can someone help 😢 i dont understand why the hands turn black in unity/are completely outline 😭😭 looks fine in blender

cannot screenshot i do not have discord on that account on the computer

[eternal verge]

Hello! Me and my friend have no tech understanding or knowledge of importing avatars, much less anything about how they really function or such. I only know a couple things but not really a full picture of anything. My friend got an avatar off online, and has been trying to import it. We have done tried following all the steps by the notes and other things by looking online, installed the shader and VRCFury, but it still looks like this. Is it supposed to with the white clothes? The lighting or anything didn't change when we put it on, only for a split second before reverting and that red thing at the bottom showed but we don't know if that's okay or not. Do you guys know if it's normal? Did we install something incorrectly or miss something that wasn't clear? We tried going to the creators discord server but it is a invalid link on all websites.

[nimble chasm]

have u tried dragging the material onto the clothing itself

[eternal verge]

Not yet, we weren't sure if we were suppsoed to for this avatar, or which things were exactly the materials. (I'll try figuring it out)

[nimble chasm]

if u wanna hop in a call (muted) and share ur screen i can prolly help

[eternal verge]

Yes please!! Would really appreciate that, we have no clue what we're doing

😭

[exotic abyss]

hi, why does this happen or how can it be solved? ;-;

[long lava]

what's the issue?

if the UV isn't present here, it means that it is probably seperated and placed somewhere else in the UV map

it happens

[exotic abyss]

The entire mesh is selected, but it still has those holes ;-;

[long lava]

You can use the stitch tool to attach the seperated verticies

[exotic abyss]

what tool is that?

[median saddle]

Yo can someone help me? ive been having this problem since i resseted my pc and downloaded vcc/unity again. for some reason everytime i try to upload an avatar and is clearly ready to get uploaded it doesnt show in the builder. it just says "A VRCAvatarDescriptor is required to build an Avatar" and im like tf you mean?? never had this problem before i would just put the avi in the project put my stuff in it and the builder would recognize it

[sudden violet]

You need to add a VRCAvatarDescriptor on your avatar

now, IF you have that component, and it doesn't work, it might be something else. I'd share a screenshot.

[desert elk]

if it doesn't work, it could be on the wrong object

i do recommend sending a screenshot of the avatar descriptor and where it's placed

[twilit fog]

guys i have been trying to trouble shoot this for the past 3 days. when i publish an avatar it gets uploaded in progress and it generates a code in pipeline manager and then when it does bam it the upload cancels because of missing credential. can somebody help

i disabled tcv/ipvp6 thingy

i tried down grading to 2019. log in log out. everything that the internet has to offer for a troubleshoot

this is frustrating

TvT

[desert elk]

are you sure your account has permissions and can you screenshot the error you're getting?

[twilit fog]

yis? im a newplayer badge

do i need more permission than that?

bam

TvT

they say that but in earlier screenshot its revealed that i have no id in the pipeline manager

and also i modelled the avatar so it shouldnt have an id there to begin with

but when midway uploading an id generates and then that might be the reason why missing credentials error pops up?

this is odd isnt it

[desert elk]

you need an official vrc account with a trust rank new user or higher.

[nocturne tendon]

Can someone answer a question for me? In blender, when i use the hair tool, what exactly will that hair look like in unity?

[desert elk]

you mean the paid one or whic hair tool?

[twilit fog]

i have a new user rank and i have published a test avatar

[desert elk]

oh i see

close and open the project, log in and out, try a different wifi
and review any errors in the "Alerts" section

[twilit fog]

tried it so many times. errors often are failed to authenticate and ApiErrorException: Exception of type 'VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.ApiErrorException' was thrown.

Unauthorized, try logging out and in again
UnityEngine.Debug:LogError (object,UnityEngine.Object)
VRC.Core.Logger:LogError (string,string,UnityEngine.Object)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/<MakeRequestWithResponse>d__15`2<object, VRC.SDKBase.Editor.Api.VRCApi/EmptyResponse>:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.base/Editor/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/API/VRCApi.cs:286)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext:ExecuteTasks ()

it has to do with the sdk authentication?

i tried using different versions in character companion but still no gud

[soft aurora]

Woke up today trying new things, nothing helped yet, anyone figure it out?

One thing i gotta ask is

Is there a way physbone collider can pull instead of push a bone? Like can the drumstick pull the cymbal towards it when its close? Then release when off the cymbal?

[river jewel]

so uh dudes, why ain't there any hand gestures for me to pick from? :')

me tryna make contact togglesssssd

[sudden violet]

click + that's over there to add a new condition

[river jewel]

still nothing 🥲

[sudden violet]

Show your parameters list

[lilac musk]

You need to add it to the parameter list on the animation controller

[sudden violet]

^

[river jewel]

ah, I see

and then I'd have to make a whole animation based on that hand gesture huh 🥲

[sudden violet]

don't you have a base?

[river jewel]

OH I DO

what about it?

[sudden violet]

how do you plan to add this to it?

cause in theory, i'd simply do everything on the base already

Unless you're going for a VRCfury / Modular Avatar approach

[river jewel]

even within my base fx layers, neither of them have hand gestures

and mind you hand gestures work just fine in play mode 🥲

[sudden violet]

i'm not understanding the workflow here, but doing what Silver said will make it work.

gestures are supposed to be on the gesture layer of an avatar, which means if you have a base, you don't need to re-create the gesture animations.

[river jewel]

what did silver say?

[sudden violet]

^

[river jewel]

Welp Oki doki THANKS

gentlemen, I may not have a brain, but I have an idea >:]

[verbal elm]

How do I fix this?

[desert elk]

you didn't install something

read the instructions again and make sure you installed everything

it could be vrcfury that you're missing

[verbal elm]

ill try that now! thanks!

its an ancient avatatar from 2021 xd i hope this works

[river jewel]

dammit I dunno how to test if it'll work ;-;

[desert elk]

gesture manager?

or av3 emulator

you can add them to your project in vcc

[verbal elm]

i added those aswell as thry but now theres no sdk to publish xd

im gonna take vr fury out

[river jewel]

I already got those, but imma give that a shot

wait how do I use it?

[desert elk]

gesture manager is in tools

add it to your scene and enter playmode

it'll allow you to text the hand gestures and toggles and stuff

[river jewel]

the hand gestures work like a charm, toggles too, the kicker is

I wanna be sure that the contact toggles work

I might as well take the gamble and just cross my fingers it'll work the moment I upload it to vrc 🥲

[somber sequoia]

You can put a contact sender on a sphere or something, then move it around in play mode, in and out of a contact receiver

[verbal elm]

okay now the sdk is fully gone

[desert elk]

did you make the project in vcc/alcom?

or did you install the sdk manually?

it's either this or that, don't mix them

I'm asking cause I see the sdk folder

[verbal elm]

I got it to work! The sdk at the top had no splash panel so I just imported it again and it worked

still having the same error issue

[bright citrus]

Can someone who understands avatar errors come to my dm? I urgently need help recording a clip

[somber sequoia]

you've got a missing script, you'll need to install whatever package that requires. Check the avatar creator's docs or website for clues as to what it is.

[verbal elm]

its an old avatar, and ive downloaded everything it says for me to download and more

[somber sequoia]

and yet, there's the missing script error

maybe it's looking for Dynamic Bones?

[verbal elm]

it might be, i think i still own it, should i add it in now or start over again?

[somber sequoia]

starting over gets you nothing, just add that and then use the converter tool in the SDK to make those bones into physbones

[verbal elm]

okay cool, ill do that

thankyou!

[somber sequoia]

what am I looking at

[verbal elm]

upload sucseeded

but now i have a whole new proble#

[somber sequoia]

oh okay.

[verbal elm]

what did i do 😭

[somber sequoia]

explain what you're referring to

[verbal elm]

wait i fixed it

[simple hill]

not sure what I did,but the camera is facing this way when it shouldn't

[eager acorn]

So like is there a way to use shader graph for vrchat? Because I tried and it's causing this weird double vision effect. Probably because vrchat is using the built in render pipeline

[somber sequoia]

yes: https://github.com/z3y/ShaderGraphVRC

[eager acorn]

you're my new god

[somber sequoia]

worship me!

haha

[eager acorn]

I've been looking for answers everywhere but nothing. So massive thanks!

[somber sequoia]

Glad I could help 🙂

[desert elk]

well, how's your avatar and the view point positioned in Unity?

[simple hill]

something like this

[timber wharf]

@simple hill

you should not have any cameras inside avatar

[simple hill]

i want to move it out of there,but

[timber wharf]

well, learn to export only required parts from blender and deleting/moving in a separate collection stuff you dont need. but you can also just remove camera component for now, making that object empty useless one.

[limber birch]

Can someone help me with objects disappearing in the hierarchy as soon as play mode is pressed?

[teal field]

does anyone know why my avatar boobs keep disappearing🤣 😭

[heavy zephyr]

Sounds like the physbone setup is very bad

[teal field]

a specific part of it? or all of it

[heavy zephyr]

Well specifically the right one at first glance. Tho you probably want to use only one physbone for both. Was this happening while standing still or moving?

[teal field]

i dont know when it happens, i just look down and sometimes theyre just gone xd

[heavy zephyr]

Just look at yourself in a mirror, try a few things, moving, staying still, grabbing, colliding...

[inland yoke]

I am very new to setting all this up so any help would be v appreciated. What exactly does this warning mean?

[somber sequoia]

It's related to one of your shaders, possibly it's an outdated version?

[inland yoke]

Well I just installed poyomi again directly from github

same thing

I'mma be real though not sure if I installed this correctly

[somber sequoia]

hmm looks like there's something old around. did you actually remove the old poiyomi package first?

[umbral oriole]

Are you having any issues in the project? in myt expirience you can pretty much ignore most of these yellow errors. unless there is actualy something not wortking on the avatar or it isnt uploading

[inland yoke]

I mean I can still edit the colours with those rgb tabs so I think its fine. It just keeps popping up.

[umbral oriole]

in taht case dont worry about it lol

[umbral oriole]

there is no end to those yellow errors so no point worrying too much about them.

[sacred jetty]

reinstalling blender and cats rn. Using blender 3.6 and the cats plugin gave me an error about the lien of code that has testing in it. I removed that like any tutorial would tell me to and now its saying something about no mmd tools module found. any idea what to do.

[nimble bloom]

I recently did a headswap on my avatar and am now trying to add new outfits to my avatar, previously adding outfits to the model was a breeze, but now when I export from Blender and Import into Unity, the mesh deforms. I had asked a friend about it and they mentioned about applying transforms, but I check that option when exporting from Blender and it still breaks

[sweet pilot]

I really need help with this, Every time I open my project with VCC the VRC SDK option doesn't load into the project even though it says the SDK package is there I honestly don't know, and I'm also getting a lot of errors and it says vrc dynamics not loaded. (It didn't save all the stuff I already did for the avatar.)

[simple hill]

i know its a bit messy,but i was able to get a prop open from the prefab by duplicating the object. Opening the duplicate without effecting the other

[sweet pilot]

how can I fix the SDK?

[simple hill]

im not a mod or an expert for unity stuff. I'm sorry

[sweet pilot]

oh ok,

[somber sequoia]

make sure you're using the right version of cats, get it here: https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

[simple hill]

i want to add this gogo loco,but im afraid to do so because of this warning

[somber sequoia]

make sure you have installed both the gogo loco and vrc fury packages

[snow goblet]

are these vertices weighted correctly?

[nocturne tendon]

the one with the particle system

and afterwords when you select the hair option, the model looks like its got long straight porkiepine spikes that you can use the sculpt tool to coam into a ahairstyle

[somber sequoia]

whoa, cool 'do

[nocturne tendon]

oh no i didnt do this, i screenshotted this from a youtube video

i dont wanna actually start working on hair until i know for a fact that this hair will appear in unity when i bring it there as an fbx from blender

[wraith jasper]

Howdy Hi I'm doing Unity work for a friend, and some reason one of the arms is. positioned weird. the position of the bones in Blender is fine too

I even did try to "Apply All Transforms" in blender, and still nothing fixed

[desert elk]

did you try enforcing t pose in unity?

pose > enforce tpose

[wraith jasper]

Let me try that

[wraith jasper]

Godspeed thank you that fixed it!!!

[simple hill]

so i have the head joined with another head with blend shapes to hide it,but idk what to use. an int toggle,float,or bool? when i tried to used the blendshape to hide it,then back to the play button,pressing the toggle and it doesn't work

the head is seperate form the body,just to let you know

[desert elk]

I'd use bools. It would be set up in the same way as any other bool toggle, just use the blendshapes instead of hiding objects

if the toggle doesn't work, inspect it, somethings probably set up wrong

[half ice]

is there any way that i can mix blendshape together for example .. If I toggle 2 different items (which have blendshape activated already for every single item), activate the third blendshape only when I have these 2 items active. I don't know if that makes sense.

like only if i have toggle 2 items togather active 1 blendshape

[heavy zephyr]

Yeah, you already have a toggle parameter for both. Just use those as conditions to go to a state that "activates" that blendshape.

[umbral oriole]

ok my first guess would be the the fbx isnt setup properly in unity take a look and make sure the bones are placed in the right areas. then i wouldf also check weight paints and bone parenting inside blender

[umbral oriole]

ok looks like these errors are not letting the project all the necessary packages

[dark wasp]

anybody got any tips for making an avatar from scratch? i dont want to just look up avatars and upload them, i wanna make my own avatars

[fallen wave]

Does anyone know why i cant play certain animations on my avatar, however in unity it works fine and for other people it works fine? I tried clearing cache and the whole deal several times 🤔

I vaguely remember an issue with using avatars then uploading a seperate iteration to it without changing out it breaks for you locally but how do i fix that

[limpid cargo]

tip is…
learn the general use blender.
learn just for vrchat is not effecient…

#avatar-development-links

[young bear]

why is my animation working in regular play mode but not when I use gesture manager?

the rotation for the object is not being played in gesture manager

[lavish hatch]

What do I do to fix this? I want gogo loco

[somber sequoia]

start by installing both gogo loco and vrc fury

[lavish hatch]

i have both

[somber sequoia]

it seems you don't have the prefab it's looking for though

do you have recent versions of those?

[lavish hatch]

yes

should i try re putting the gogo loco

[somber sequoia]

well you could just remove that broken prefab and re-add the one from the gogo loco package

[unkempt iris]

ok so im having an issue where my viewpoint is completely off in vrchat but fine in unity. i originally had my avatar sized at 1.1 but it was huge- like way over the ceiling of the world i was in. so i shrunk him in unity using transform to .4 which did put him at a normal size but the view is like way in front of his head in vrchat wheb it isjt like that in unity

would i have to shrink the model in blender ? im a bit confused bc i believe the model size is causing the view issues

[vast quartz]

Does anyone know how to add gogloco to an avi

[vast quartz]

nvm you answered my question

[somber sequoia]

hehe good

[civic spindle]

Could someone help me figure out how to set up a project?

I'm brand new to doing anything and am at a loss for where to find help

[ornate stump]

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495

[tall dock]

Anyone knows how to paint scales for a material in substance painter, i want to put in some specific zones scales but smart materials won't cut it

[civic spindle]

I guess I more need help uploading an avi rather than creating one

[desert elk]

what issues are you facing?

[civic spindle]

So I have the unity package for an avi that I bought, and don't know how to import it into a project

Well I mean I think I know how to

But I don't know if it has any shaders or anything else that I need to download first

[ornate stump]

You'd have to check the description in the page where you got the avatar from.

[civic spindle]

That's the thing, I checked the description, but there wasn't an explanation for what to do

[ornate stump]

Can you link the page?

[civic spindle]

Yeeeee

Should I do it here?

Wait I think I might be stupid

Lemme try something rq

[desert elk]

ideally

if there isn't a description on the page, there could be a read me file

[uneven whale]

Sorry. I wanted to know, I'm working on an avatar for PC/Quest, everything is fine, I can upload it, but sometimes when I click on Build & Publish, it becomes inactive, and I have to re-enter the project with the avatar. It happens to me every other time. Is it a bug, a problem with the avatar or something with my Unity?

[civic spindle]

I think I figured it out!

Just seeing if it works in vrc now

It did, yeee!

[civic spindle]

How would I add a tab next to the inspector for something like sps?

[ornate stump]

You have to open it from top menu. Each plugin has its own location of the menu to access.

[civic spindle]

Is it in one of these you mean?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[civic spindle]

Oooooo, I got it! Thanks for the help :3

[blazing bison]

how do i add idle, crouch, and prone anims with gogoloco?

[iron dove]

Hey I need help, I just optimized an avi but idk how to switch the avi FBX

[timber wharf]

@iron dove step 1 backup unity project, step 2 overwirte fbx in assets (on blender export for example)

[unkempt iris]

wondering what could cause this .. its moving perfectly fine in the mirror and face mirror, how i wqant it to, but the view is completely off

[desert elk]

make sure to use the same export settings as the first timr

[desert elk]

well, where is it in unity? the view point

[unkempt iris]

in between the eyes in front of the face

let me get a picture

[iron dove]

but how

[normal tiger]

Anyone know why whenever I apply a normal map to quest standard lite and then upload it looks fine on pc side but poopy on quest side?

[desert elk]

you need to locate the assets folder of unity in the explorer

for example by right clicking in the assets and selecting "Show in explorer"

you need to then save the new FBX from blender in that location with the same name as the original fbx

this will update it

[unkempt iris]

tbh idk why the move arrows arw way over there 😭 i had issues with the view port being way in front of the avatar and it completely moving wrong so i rotated the avatar 180 in unity and moved the view which caused thag problem instead

[iron dove]

I'm actually using a zip file so I will be fine

I will always have a backup

[desert elk]

your avatar should be positioned at 0.0.0. If you do that and the avatar's feet aren't at world origin origin, you need to go to blender, position it properly, apply all transforms and reimport it to unity
And the viewpoint's X should be 0.

[normal tiger]

Anyone know the answer to this?

[unkempt iris]

ok i will attempt to do this 😭

[desert elk]

also if you needed to rotate it, do it in blender

it's better if it stays default in unity

[unkempt iris]

✅️✅️

[normal tiger]

This is the rendering problem im talking about ignore the antics

Its too black in the shaded spots or something and I don't know why this happens

[iron dove]

how do I reduce triangles?

I imported it and it still says 700K wtf

[unborn sail]

anyone know what this is?

[sick loom]

It is a bit of a Band-Aid fix, but you can also just try to offset the view point until it aligns with where you want it in game, even if in unity it doesn’t seem to be in the right spot

[desert elk]

in blender you can decimate, dissolve, use free plugins, etc

in unity there's a paid plugin

[unkempt iris]

that fixed it 🙏🙏

[desert elk]

yay

[cedar star]

i uploaded an avatar but for some reason its crashing quest users

i don't know how because all it has is a model and hair swap

ive uploaded bigger sized avatars but i guess this one is the deal breaker

[desert elk]

what are the stats? just because it uploaded doesn't mean it'll be good for performance

[iron dove]

can someone help me? I can't find the quest version of my avi

I think that might help me optimize

I bought an avi

[desert elk]

is it marketed as quest compatible?

[iron dove]

yes

and people from quest doesn't see it pixlated

but why does it have 700k triangles?????

for fuck sake

[near flame]

Im searching for sombody that could help me : I bought a avi and extra hair pack. But apparently I can’t switch the hair onto the avi I already bought. (I’m new to vrc in generel)

[desert elk]

you stumbled upon a generic avatar creator who doesn't care about quest users and thinks switching the shaders is enough

if you want it more optimized you'll need to do the work yourself

[iron dove]

can't I commission someone to do it for me? I tried

[desert elk]

did you buy it from online or in vrc marketplace? if online you can switch it. Either in Blender or in Unity

[iron dove]

although I can show you what I did

[desert elk]

it depends. Not all avatar creators allow for files to be shared. You could try VRC Traders

[near flame]

I bought it online

[iron dove]

I reduced it from 469

[desert elk]

wow

[iron dove]

I just don't know how to import it

please help

I tried switching

I do know blender really well, I used to be a game designer

in roblox

[desert elk]

you can override the fbx in unity's if it's unpacked and you use the same export settings (usually you need to set Apply Scalings to FBX All)

if that's what you mean

and upload it with the same blueprint id

[iron dove]

fun fact, do you know where all of the bones went into?

into her long version hair

hahahahhahaa

I don't even use it

[desert elk]

some models tend to have a lot of hair bones

[near flame]

Mine for example 💀😂

[iron dove]

@desert elk another question, do you have a good suit for a yakuza type of thing?

this is for a yakuza roleplay actually

[cedar echo]

I swear this is the fourth time I've seen my avatar start building, I'm just trying to upload it for PC and quest but it's being weird

Okay I've counted it this time, this is the bare minimum the third time it started building

Wait a minute and everything's already in game

[somber cedar]

how do i fix this?

[desert elk]

add an animator to the avatar, if you set it to humanoid it should've added one automatically

maybe you deleted it by accident

[cedar star]

only high stats

it just doesnt make sense bc theyre other avatars i have that are WAY higher

but dont crash

[desert elk]

ouch

[cedar star]

i think ik what it might be tbh

the person who commissioned me asked for glasses

and theyre from a completely different model

ive never had this problem until rn

[desert elk]

materials do a lot for lag

[cedar star]

well its not lag

its like

an instant crash

this one doesnt care

but this does

[desert elk]

i fear both xD

[cedar star]

only the bottom one crashes

which is weird

[cedar star]

well i was right

it was the glasses

[unkempt iris]

😢

i think it might be the bones because unity isnt picking up the 3rd finger bone on all fingers correctly..

unity blender

[iron dove]

uh no

@desert elk can you help

I can't upload it

The VRCSDK build was aborted because the VRCSDKPreprocessAvatarCallback 'AvatarBuildHook' reported a failure.

[twilit glen]

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[fresh plinth]

Hey yall... anyone ever had THIS issue... my avi looks fine to others, fine in mirrors etc but like THIS on camera. its not just my camera either but everyones

[cinder frost]

…why would you deliver a product this egregiously unoptimized as a commission???

[desert elk]

like yeah. Glasses alone wouldn't make it that bad

[steady summit]

hey! could someone explain to me how can I make a AFK animation out of a prefab I bought from booth?
The animation I bought is a ring around my avatar, I would also like to add my own standing pose with it

[night ember]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/

[steady summit]

I'm aware of this documentation but it sadly doesn't answer my question^^

I have a prefab with a file in it which makes a ring spin around my avatar, now I gotta figure out how I can make an animation out of it (since it has 3 separate animations inside the prefab) AND add my own idle pose of my avatar as well

[steady summit]

my question isn't about how to exchange VRchat's default afk animation with a custom one, I want to know how to create an animation out of a prefab object and add another animation into it

[still shuttle]

Just copy + paste key frames? Copy the key frames from the ring animation then paste them into your custome idle animation. This should make it all one animation. You might have to tweak it a little depending on your idle but it should work fine.

[steady summit]

do I have to have the prefab just like this in the hierarchy or does it have to be unpacked and inside my avatar?

the prefab has 3 animation clips which make the whole afk animation

[still shuttle]

Thats a bit confusing. Not sure why they'd use 3 different animations unless the logic is set up in a specific way

[steady summit]

yeah on the booth page it even says "recommended to be used as AFK pose" but the readme inside the downloaded file doesn't teach anything sadly

[still shuttle]

Id just animate it myself ontop of the custom idle animation ngl

[steady summit]

so I have my 1-frame long idle pose for my avatar as an animation clip, can I somehow add the objects into it?

it's 2 rings and some blinking letters which rotate

[still shuttle]

Yeah by animating them in the same animation. Thats why I said to copy + paste key frames but its weird cuz they use 3 animations, so that might not work the same. Personally, I'd reanimate them on top of the custom idle til I got something I liked. Especially since I have no clue how the logic for that idle works

[steady summit]

hmm I see, yeah I fear my skill is too low for that. the rotation should be doable but it's the blinking letters which will be an issue for me sadly

thank you for your help tho, I wish they added a better readme lol

[still shuttle]

There may also be something I'm missing tho, maybe someone else will read this and have a better idea than me
I wish you luck thoo

[vernal quarry]

is it possible to make a VRCFury blendshape toggle with smooth transition?

[lavish charm]

So im trying to make an avi with super long nails, and i was wondering if there was any way for me to make it so that the hand didnt curl the distal of each finger with index?

[limpid cargo]

use radial?

[timber wharf]

use actual animations🤷‍♂️

[primal spruce]

how can i make a frame by frame animation toggle? if theres a tutorial can you pelase sned me the link? thank you

[patent hazel]

Is anyone able to help with toggles that lower the "floor" your avatar rests at? I have one for heels and I want it to shift my avatar up so I dont clip the floor, but Unity transform doesnt work in toggles.

[lavish hatch]

Why every time I add the pc ID to the quest blueprint it automatically makes the pc version a lesser quality like the quest one?

[visual bobcat]

fellows, im stuck. Im making a bee avatar, ive managed to animate its idle state, but bee's body is always clipping in camera. Ive tried to use head chop on root, but its like doing nothing 😦

help pls

[simple hill]

I'm trying to make a small simple animation for my props,I did put them as an int,but it could be wrong. Is there a way to make them work? A button I need to press? Not sure.

like theres a couple of frames in the animation

[iron dove]

I tried to import a cloth into my avatar and it does this. what do I do?

[arctic ginkgo]

Well if you want to animate humanoid bones as well as anything else, you will need two separate animations that play at the same time: one for your humanoid bones (the pose your avatar makes) and one for anything extra (like the rings). I would recommend putting your AFK pose in the action layer, and all other animations in the FX layer. Then you can toggle these animations on separately using the AFK parameter. Then they should play at the same time.

[arctic ginkgo]

Do not animate them.in the same animation, the other person is wrong. You can combine some animations together, but do not mix humanoid and non-humanoid in the same clip. (Humanoid is anything that can be moved directly by tracking, like arms, legs, hips, chest, eyes, etc)

If the animations are the same length, then you can just copy + paste the frames, or add them all to a DBT with a weight of 1. Otherwise, you can set them up in separate layers, and for the FX controller layers just use sync layers and swap out the animations

[steady summit]

thank you, I will try that! Just another problem is that the prefab includes 3 different .anim files which make out the bought AFK pose

[arctic ginkgo]

Basically you create a layer, set up the animation and logic, then create a new layer and use the sync feature with the original layer selected. Everything will be the same now in both layers, but you can swap the animations

In the layer settings you can sync it to another layer, so just have one main layer for the logic, and then the other two layers are synced to that one but with the animations swapped

Then for the pose, copy and paste the same logic into a layer in the action controller, and swap the animations with your humanoid animations, as well as adding tracking control and playable layer weight control. These let you change what body parts are animated and the weight the action layer is playing at.

My phone is about to die and I am not home (and won't be for a few hours) so I can't keep helping right now, but once I am back I can try helping some more

[steady summit]

no no all good, I really appreciate all your help and effort you put so far. I will try to follow the steps as best as I can and maybe I can make it work ❤️

[simple hill]

never mind I found what i need to do

[steady summit]

yeah I give up, I just don't understand everything and I cannot find specific videos sadly. So whenever you're free and if you're still willing to help I would appreciate it so so much!

[limpid cargo]

please be sure that you use “Android” build setting on unity (in the title of the window, you see “Android”, not “PC/Linux”
for the Quest version.

[quasi crypt]

My boyfriend is having problems uploading an avatar he ad e uploads it on pc but when he upload it on the quest side the pc version becomes an error bot how do I help him fix this situation

[unkempt iris]

does any1 know why unity is seperating the 3rd bones on each finger into two parts?

[twilit glen]

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[main relic]

every time i try uploading an avatar i get this, i've tried manually locking all materials and still this

[stray trench]

someone sent me a vroid model to upload to quest for them, for some reason they cant control their fingers, does anybody know why thatd be?

i havent added anything to it's fx layer, its just the default

i sent you a friend request

[white sundial]

does anyone know why my alpha for the eyebrow is showing the inside of the eye mesh with the alpha mask?

left is unity with poiyomi, right is blender

i tried transclipping and cutout

[simple hill]

I've heard that you can reverse unpack prefab,but idk if that's true

[white sundial]

but nothing seems to fix it

this is my original model, not a prefab

idk what could be the cause of it :/

[static mica]

I just reload the SDK and that usually fixes it.

[main relic]

alright

it also doesn't show a photo when i try and set the avatar thumbnail? even after reloading the sdk

[stray trench]

someone sent me a vroid model to upload to quest for them, for some reason they cant control their fingers, does anybody know why thatd be?
i havent added anything to it's fx layer, its just the default

[main relic]

still happening, these are logs

[static mica]

Which SDK are you using? I have to use a older version because the newer refused to let me upload. That might be why mine fixes but I am not too sure.

[main relic]

i've tried 3.8.1, 3.8.2, and 3.7.6

what should i use?

[static mica]

I'm using the 3.7.6 so I am not too sure on why you still get the error. Are all your materials locked or is any still unlocked?

[main relic]

all are locked

[static mica]

Okay last thing I know that MIGHT fix is, have you closed the project and re-opened it? yep last resort

[main relic]

i've tried that, restarting my computer and i might try reinstalling creator companion

[quasi trail]

Anyone know a fix for parts of your avatar clipping out of view in unity when you get to close?

[still shuttle]

Please dont accept random dms from ppl here. If you want a custom avatar its best to go to the vrctraders discord server and ask there in the proper channels. This place is riddled with scammers

[still shuttle]

I fix this by copying bounding boxes, there's a tool for it

[still shuttle]

https://jessycat92.gumroad.com/l/RQDoUj

Copy it from the body mesh

[olive schooner]

could anyone help me? i have these two fans and i'm trying to make the material swap apply to both without having to use two radial wheels if that makes sense, i'm using vrcfury so if anyone has knowledge about that ;-;

[still shuttle]

Oof I don't use vrcfury, I know how to do it manually tho

[olive schooner]

honestly anything helps </3 i'm willing to learn

[still shuttle]

Pretty much, make 1 animation for each material swap you need, and animate changing the material for both fans in the same animations. Then you go to ur fx, make a new layer, add a blend tree to said layer, drop in all ur animations starting with the default one, then make a new parameter in ur fx, its gotta be a float, name it whatever and add that parameter to the blend tree. Then add that exact parameter to ur parameter list on ur avatar and you can add the radial toggle in any menu you want. You'll have to set it to radial and make sure the "parameter" spot is empty and you put the parameter you need in the rotation area.

[still shuttle]

Here's a YouTube tutorial
https://youtu.be/tF5n6JvZOoI?si=qFRoND1u0S-DUQ2-

[normal grotto]

Started a new project, just a new edit of one of my avatars...
Went to test it in Desktop mode.. and its acting strange. When I press spacebar to jump.. my character leaps forward...
Nothing I added should have had anything to do with... I ... I bet it's GoGoLoco... nvm, let me check on that..

[olive schooner]

a bit late but thank you! i was def losing my mind trying to figure it out through text

[tall dock]

Whenever I sit with the gogoloco animations my legs turn like this, second image is how the legs are in case it's needed

[topaz badger]

the sdk is saying my model is missing head and hands for some reason

[still shuttle]

Looks like they are either not weight painted properly or the bones for them arent parented properly

[topaz badger]

are they attached in blender or unity?

[tall dock]

Bones are parented alright, i think it's weight paint issue

but i don't know how to fix it, im terrible / have dull knowledge of weight painting

[normal grotto]

Do you have to use the latest Avatar SDK?

[still shuttle]

You'll have to go into blender and weight paint them to their respected bones. There are a bunch of YouTube tutorials on how to weight paint

[distant hawk]

How do I force a T pose? First time having this

nvm I got it

actually it wont apply it, I click apply and done but it still says its not humanoid

[topaz badger]

select the fbx and make sure you have humanoid set in the inspector

[distant hawk]

I do

[topaz badger]

it's been a while since i used unity that's the usual cause

[pallid pike]

I need some help with an avatar in unity.
For one, it has different hair strands listed as able to add or change listed in the hierarchy, but I don’t see those in the expression menu in vrchat.
Two- the hair color is off. It gets these white streaks of color in it, and when using the hue shift several colors look pixeled. Could anyone help me with this?

This is what I mean by white streaks, and pixeled color

[distant hawk]

First one is a test I did before I fixed some uv mapping issues. the second one is after. (Second one having a forced T pose issue... it doesnt stay and conintues to say its none humanoid)

[topaz badger]

how do i fix this, the pipeline idea is empty

[steel tapir]

Do someone has the experience with Animator Play Audio?
It's works, but Random Pitch isn't applying for some reasons, same pitch

[topaz badger]

shouldn't on exit beset to stop audio?

[steady summit]

any idea why my hair pin gets distorted and long in playmode in unity? it doesn't do it outside of playmode nor in blender

[topaz badger]

any animations or bones linked to it?

[steady summit]

no but I think I might have found the problem

I checked the weightpaint again and it's gone, might have disappeared when I renamed the bone 😅

[topaz badger]

oops done that plenty myself glad ya found the issue

[steady summit]

yeah I always forget about that too lol

[lunar cape]

warning booba, but they wont move even with the phsy bones, idk if i messed something up in blender or what?

[lavish hatch]

how do i change it if it does?

[distant hawk]

Any geniuses???? :3333

[tall dock]

I've been checking that but, nothing, I'm experimenting a bit

[ornate stump]

You should read the "Import Messages".

[still shuttle]

Was just about to say that lol

[ornate stump]

You should check which bone actually the mesh is weight painted to.

[still shuttle]

Well you seem to have 3 sets of breast bones. That's not very good.

Typically an avatar has 1 set of breast bones that everything (by everything i mean anything that touches the breasts) is weight painted to, not multiple. That could definitely cause some funky issues.

[lunar cape]

ill check the weight paints

[lunar cape]

i tried weight painting and it didn't do anything

[lunar cape]

uhmm how would i fix this?

just going into blender and deleting bones?

[foggy dawn]

Friend is having a issue with uploading could anyone help we tried to delete the sdk folder

[lunar cape]

im seeing i have alot of things im not suppose too, like butt bones and ALOT of finger and toe bones

[limpid cargo]

file or edit tab (i forget)
build settings

Android

[steady summit]

hey, I have an issue with UV distortion. Currently I have a toggle to activate a cool effect on my clothes via a decal with distorted UV.
sadly now I have the issue that even outside the toggle I can slightly see the distortion texture...any ways to fix this?

[lunar cape]

or would i have to redo the whole model?

[ornate stump]

Did you weifht paint the right bone? Did you test in pose mode in blender?

[primal spruce]

Items are in place in unity
but way above my hand in game, and when i moved it down, its somewhere else

[ornate stump]

Image for reference?

[ornate stump]

How did you link it to you avatar in unity?

[primal spruce]

i put it my hand, perfect spot and used vrcfury as toggle

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the object hierarchy?

[cedar echo]

I want to make sure of this before I do it, I want to make an avatar that's a hand puppet Avatar
And I need to make sure that only having a wrist bone will work

[ornate stump]

I mean Hierarchy panel to the left.

[ornate stump]

Have you tested with gesture manager?

[primal spruce]

yes

[ornate stump]

What does it do in gesture manager? Also screenshot the avatar when testing.

[primal spruce]

figure it out

Connected to right, when it was a left handed thing

[untold rapids]

#avatar-general message

[young bear]

how would i make an animation play on top of an existing one instead of overriding it?

i've tried additive but that does not work

[cedar echo]

Okay I'm legitimately confused, it says specific bones are optional but if I don't have them it says an error and won't allow me to upload

[ornate stump]

Some bones are optional for unity but are required by vrchat.

[river jewel]

dudes uh how do I make all my goggles disappear alongside my Avi? :')

[desert elk]

add them to the animation

[river jewel]

I did that, but then the toggle stopped working

it's being animated already by vrcfury 🥲

[tall dock]

Object dissapeared out of nowhere, don't know why

[desert elk]

ah, i cant help with fury

[river jewel]

ah

tho for some of my toggles they also actually disappear

I'd wanna figure out why that is that way anytime my Avi disappears so does all those toggles

[long lava]

y'all
am i dumb

i literally cannot find any guides or documentation for final ik usage in vrc anywhere

[long lava]

what am i doing wrong, why does it want to remove it

[still shuttle]

I don't know, I never have this issue because of the way I manually merge armatures.

[somber sequoia]

Voxian did a talk that's a decent start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7UK4JiIWvk

[long lava]

Yeah, I listened to it yesterday :)

i know what things do

but not how to make the things do

[somber sequoia]

ahh. yeah that's harder. I spent about a day playing with some parts of it and ended up with basically nothing 🙂

[long lava]

🥲

if only things were as easy as in Summer Wars

[somber sequoia]

the thing I was trying to do turned out to be easier with a bunch of rotation constraints. But what are you trying to do?

ahh I love Summer Wars

[long lava]

I am making a snake avatar.
I want to improve the physics, by replacing a physbone with zero gravity and zero pull with a Grounder.

I also want to make a toggle to be able to control the "tail" with the hand. Right now I use a bunch of rotation constraints, and it technically work, but it's annoying, I wish I could just have it snap to the irl hand, while having the other bones follow.

[somber sequoia]

ooh interesting, I hadn't thought of using it for a snake

Hmm that does seem like a use for a grounder, so the hand points at the target for the tail end and the rest of the tail just follows naturally?

[long lava]

yea

but my biggest issue rn is that vrchat don't want me to upload my avatar with a grounder ik lol

and i don't know why

[somber sequoia]

I forget which version of FinalIK is in vrchat (and they are very tight lipped about, I have no idea why), but it isn't the latest, I wonder if that's a factor

[long lava]

OH

You need a specific version

?

damn okay

i got the latest version

well;;; i suppose i'll try things out

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure - I know vrchat itself doesn't use the latest but I don't know which

[long lava]

It's okay, thanks for the clue :)

[somber sequoia]

I do wish they'd be a lot more open about that, it's really annoying

[long lava]

yeaaah the documentation doesn't say

oh wait what

i didn't saw that

[somber sequoia]

oh, was this a quest avatar?

[long lava]

well, no

but i kinda want everyone to be able to see my avatar correctly

well
i'll figure something out

i can always put the finalik technique on pc, and the old constraint technique on mobile

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's an option

[long lava]

Yeah, the reason why it was saying that Grounder would be removed is because I was on the Android build platform

When I switch to Windows I don't have the error anymore

[somber sequoia]

yep, that'll do it

[lunar cape]

Oh how do you manually do it?

[somber sequoia]

select the new one, then the avatar's main one, ctrl+j

what I do for this is strip the new one down to only the new bones first though. Then parent those properly after the join

how complex that is depends though

[still shuttle]

It highly highly depends. Personally my way of doing it is quite complicated and too much to explain over texts. Try looking into some YouTube videos on how to kitbash avatars

[lavish hull]

(crossposting since im completely lost here)

I've made a couple animations for this avatar in blender, imported them into unity only for the crouch anim to be completely broken, hands are stuck in the default position and i dont even know what's causing the velociraptor stance

Additionally, the IK on the crouched legs and hands don't seem to have carried over properly, the tail also doesn't sway as part of either the crouch or idle, anyone know what's causing this and how to fix??

[limber birch]

Hello, I made an animation for the crown in unity but I don't know how I'd be able to make it active in vrchat itself

[junior void]

make what active

[limber birch]

The animation, I did everything and it doesn't work

[junior void]

share what you did then

[daring lark]

Hey so after baking I get these boxe fingers

How can I make them back round

One of them I got back round

But the other ones are stay boxey even tho I’m inflating them

On sculpt

[umbral oriole]

wait do you mean vrcfury is already doing the toggles on your avatar?

[umbral oriole]

what kind of animation did you make?

[junior void]

Either this is really messed up topology (maybe show us the edit mode mesh grid) or object mode -> right click -> smooth normals can help your visuals (normals/shading)

[umbral oriole]

could be the bounding box

[limber birch]

A simple eye movement one, I know nothing of this side of unity

[daring lark]

Also how do I get the fingernails back right

[limber birch]

Wait I think I got it to work?

[junior void]

this topology is horrible and unworkable

[daring lark]

So should I go back before the bake and try again

[umbral oriole]

woah thats looks super cool. is the crown part of the avatar or an added on fbx?

[limber birch]

Added it on myself

It's a free asset that I slightly edited in Blender to make the eye movement possible

[umbral oriole]

ok firstly move it off the avatar also make a copy of the avatar too just incase.
then add a descriptor to the crown create an animator controller and put it in the fx of the playable layers in the descriptor.
maker an fx layer then drag and drop the animation also make sure it loops and i think it should be good

i would have to check one of my projects i did som,ething like this a while ago

but make sure to move the crown out of the avatar root before doing any of this

[dusk falcon]

I need help with something simple