avatar-help

[primal spruce]

oh it is? intrestign
I did not know sorry

[somber sequoia]

yeah I must be misremembering or just repeating what others have said, I can't find it anywhere.

closest I can find is a thing in the creator guidelines that says you should not "disrupt [the user's] usage of basic VRChat systems"

[ebon hull]

how should i make animations fow paw fingers? I made bones for it, and should i use gestures, or fx layer?

[somber sequoia]

if these are hands and you want to do hand gestures (i.e. moving humanoid bones), that's the Gesture layer.

FX is where you make things trigger on IRL hand gestures, such as facial expressions.

[ebon hull]

So i just add animation for this bones on gesture layer, thanks

[crystal whale]

How do i add time to an animation in unity? like make it longer.

[somber sequoia]

edit it, drag whatever keyframe you want longer.
Or add a speed multiplier variable to the animation state, set to something less than one

[crystal whale]

how do i drag it?

[somber sequoia]

you can drag keyframes in the animation clip editor

[crystal whale]

But how and where?

[somber sequoia]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/Manual/animeditor-UsingAnimationEditor.html

[prime hinge]

idrk where else to go but could someone provide this model textures and a rig? im trying to get those so i can give the completed model to a friend of mine to make an avatar with and i have been completely unsuccessful in attempts to make a rig and textures for this😭

[somber sequoia]

go to the VRC traders discord if you want to commission someone, you'll just get scammers messaging you here.
Link is in #1204490664637890580

[lost umbra]

@somber sequoia Continuing from ealier, this is what the bomb does. Only thing that's broken about it is that world constraint doesn't stay put. I even used the VRC Fury version instead but still doens't work.

And yes, it's quest compatible since I optimized it with quest in mind

[somber sequoia]

ah wireframe shader, interesting

[crystal whale]

If i'm making an animation that has the avatar disappear, Do i have to have the clothes in the animation as well or do i select the armature to disappear too?

[somber sequoia]

I do each mesh object, leaving the armature in place

[pine valley]

"Disappearing" means that your renderers are no longer rendering

maybe by switching to a transparent material

Your armature is not visible -- it's just a collection of game objects in the shape of a skeleton

[crystal whale]

Whenever i try to click on a piece of clothing, it forces me to leave the animator. Doesn't let me add it to the animation

[pine valley]

That means that the clothing object is not parented to whatever object has the animator on it.

[lost umbra]

the shader is toon actually

[pine valley]

Are you attaching that clothing with VRCFury?

[lost umbra]

the new toon shader on quest is quite versitile

[pine valley]

^ replying for a ping

[upper valve]

okay, SO!

im getting somewhere with these fingers but i will maintain hat unity sucks and shouldnt work like this

i enforced a slightly better T Pose where the hands are concerned and its a lot better

[lost umbra]

finger, hats, finger hats?

[upper valve]

so

now MY only question is

is how to make it symmertrical

because i think ill go crwazy trying to write down every transform i made

actually ive already screwed up the good result i had on that side trying to improve it further

this is torture

[lost umbra]

I got 2 more things I need to fix and my Mono will be so nicely updated.

One, Fix the world constraint issue

two, fix the sync issue with the knife flip animation

[crystal whale]

How do i get it properly parented so it can work?

[pine valley]

is this clothing something you've added to the scene completely separately from your avatar's model?

[crystal whale]

No. It's on the avatar, and attached to it with modular avatar.

[pine valley]

Does the clothing have its own Animator object on it, perhaps?

If so, that's going to hijack control of the animation window

[somber sequoia]

oh cool, I haven't looked at it yet

[upper valve]

is there anyw ay to get Number Values so i can edit my t pose symmetrically

[pine valley]

if you right click on a Transform, you can copy its local position, rotation, and scale. That's often something you can paste onto the other side to mirror it

but sometimes, the bones are off by a 180 degree rotation

[azure crown]

I only added 2 weapons idk what i could do here and textures compressed for quest

[pine valley]

well, you'd better start by figuring out how large your assets are

the VR World Toolkit can show you your latest build report (it works for avatars and worlds)

[crystal whale]

i dont believe so

[azure crown]

its something with the two weapons as when i took them off it uploaded fine
But when i upload with one of them it goes back up to 40mb and theres hardly anything there that could make it that high

[pine valley]

Show your hierarchy with the avatar's root and the clothing object both visible

[pine valley]

stargate mentioned ? ?

check RuskGymClothes and the Shirt object -- neither should have an Animator on it

[crystal whale]

neither of them have an animator

[upper valve]

where would i do that...

[pine valley]

in the inspector -- you can right click the "Transform" header

i'm not sure that'll help you here, though

[upper valve]

OH its at the bottom thank you

[pine valley]

so if you start recording an animation with "Stargate (1)" selected, then click on "Shirt", the animation window exits recording mode?

[pine valley]

what's attached to RuskGymClothes?

[crystal whale]

Just the armature and the shirt itself.

[primal pasture]

Can I do somethin' so my shirt and hoodie wouldn't clip that way?

[pine valley]

i mean, what components are on that object?

[crystal whale]

Modular avatar. Thats it.

Should I delete that and install the shirt directly in the avi with vrc armature link?

Hopefully that might fix it

Also, how do I get VRCFury to play the animation only once then stop, and not constantly repeat it?

[hexed flame]

I have "this avatar uses visemes but the face mesh is not specified" error but I have all the meshes applied?

[austere bay]

if you've used automatic weights you probably still need to manually weight paint a little bit

[primal pasture]

ooh

[austere bay]

if you've just merged armatures I'd reccomend trying automatic weights

[primal pasture]

did that

[austere bay]

but honestly armpits are pretty annoying to weight paint correctly

most joints are

so you'll have to fix them manually </3

[primal pasture]

i did some sculpting and now it's not so bad

[pine valley]

that's a property of the actual animation clip

it has a Loop Time checkbox

[pine valley]

this isn't where you set the face mesh

this is just eye control

[hexed flame]

ohh i see the lip sync has the facemesh

[crystal whale]

removing modular avatar has done nothing...

[crystal whale]

And how do i get that to stop?

[pine valley]

If the animation clip comes from a model, it'll be a sub-asset that you can't directly edit

But you can change the import settings for the model

[crystal whale]

I'm making the animation from scratch. No import

[pine valley]

ah, okay, then just inspect the animation clip

it'll have a Loop Time checkbox

[crystal whale]

Okay. So that works.

Now just to fix the freaking shirt somehiw.

[pine valley]

I don't have any ideas there. Try adding a cube or something and see if you can animate that

just parent it directly to your avatar

you could also try resetteing your Unity layout (top right corner -- the Layout dropdown)

i had a very weird inspector problem that got fixed that way

[crystal whale]

I'm probably gonna see if i can just reimport the shirt and reattach to the avatar. Just have to figure out how to get my avi back to T posing so i can add it.

[pine valley]

oh, you're stuck in that "bike pose"?

that randomly happens after previewing/recording animations

one issue here is that you've unpacked your model prefab

note that there isn't a little package icon by the root of your avatar

this means you can't just reset your pose back to the default

if at all possible, don't unpack the prefab

[somber sequoia]

As far as I can tell, it's not really random, it happens if you do an animation then don't reset it by picking another animation after.

[crystal whale]

So.... its just broken now?

[pine valley]

Pumkin's Avatar Tools can reset your pose -- I'm not sure if they depend on the prefab connection

they also might read the pose from the animator's avatar, i dunno

[ruby basin]

Hey! I’m having a really frustrating issue with the VRCSDK. Every time I import the latest SDK3 (avatars), I get this error:

Because of it, PhysBones don’t show up when I try to add them to my avatar, and I’m unable to use any contact-related features. I’ve already tried:
• Using Unity 2019.4.31f1
• Running Unity Hub as admin
• Deleting all VRCSDK, Library, Temp, and cache folders
• Re-downloading the SDK from the VRChat website
• Restarting my PC

Nothing has worked so far, and I really just want to get PhysBones working. Does anyone have a fix or maybe a working older SDK version (like 3.7.x) that doesn’t give this error?

[pine valley]

Do not run the hub as an admin.

[somber sequoia]

That version of Unity is not supported at all

[pine valley]

There should also not be a VRCSDK folder in there at all

you shouldn't be downloading the SDK from the website either 😉

it sounds like you're following some very old instructions

[ruby basin]

i’m VERY new to all this and i’m just following instructions i got off the internet tbvh😭

[somber sequoia]

start with official docs: https://vcc.docs.vrchat.com/guides/getting-started

The correct Unity is 2022.3.22f1.

[ruby basin]

someone told me i should be using unity 2019 (idk why tbh lol)

[pine valley]

well, they're wrong

the information may just be very old

i guess the avatar could have some weird custom editor tools that break in 2022, but that's one heck of an edge case

[pine valley]

follow these instructions to get things set up

[somber sequoia]

It'd likely be easier to just update it rather than deal with 2019

[ruby basin]

sigh, thank you everyone!! 💗

[pine valley]

you can reattach the prefab, although you'll probably have to fix material assignments afterwards

and if you've been rearranging the hierarchy, this won't work

(you can't reparent the a prefab's objects)

[desert elk]

that wasn't to you

and there's a no advertising rule

[pine valley]

ignore and move on

[somber sequoia]

yeah they're DMing me right now, I've got enough to report them.

do not message this person

[pine valley]

already did!

now, you can DEFINITELY buy an avatar from me. here is an example

very optimized

[somber sequoia]

oh nice, then I won't bother

[crystal whale]

Shirt still isn't working

[pine valley]

did you try sticking a cube on and animating it?

trying to figure out if this is a propery of the shirt object or not

You know, there is one bonkers edge-case: there IS an animator, but it's hidden from the inspector

i have no clue why that would be done

[primal pasture]

i'm so proud how it turned out

[rose edge]

im having difficulties trying to assign a head bone to my roblox avatar- help

[crystal whale]

Okay so new question: I've duplicated the animation and want to edit it, but the record button is greyed out...

[arctic ginkgo]

Your rig isn't humanoid, you need to have all of the correct bones

[somber sequoia]

Make sure the Animator you are working with is in the Animator component on the avatar root, select the avatar, and you'll find the dropdown in the Animation window lists the animations in that animator.

[rose edge]

i did set the rig to humanoid though

unless im misunderstanding something here

[arctic ginkgo]

Right, but humanoid is a standard, and your armature's structure needs to conform to that standard

[crystal whale]

So just drag and drop the new duplicated animation into the avatar slot?

[arctic ginkgo]

It has requirements that need to be met in order for it to be considered humanoid. In order:

Hips, spine, chest, neck, head
Chest, shoulder, upper arm, forearm, hand
Hips, thigh, shin, foot

[somber sequoia]

no, an animation controller goes there.

[arctic ginkgo]

It needs to have these bones in that order, duplicate names just show where different chains are attached to (so there isn't two chests, just that the shoulders and neck are both attached to it)

Also obviously last two chains are doubled, one for left and one for right

[crystal whale]

I'm confused now. Where do i drop this animation?

[rose edge]

so far it has those

mostly because i used an IK rig in Blender

[arctic ginkgo]

You're missing your lower arms, hands, and chest

[somber sequoia]

if it's an animation clip, then into one of the layers in the animator you're working with

[arctic ginkgo]

The bones with a solid line are necessary, the ones with a dashed line are optional (except for the chest, which is needed for VRChat)

Also check in the "head" tab to assign the neck, head, jaw, and eye bones

Jaw and eye bones are optional

Neck and head bones are required

[rose edge]

well, it doesn't really need a jaw nor eye bones, so neck, head and chest are my main concern

oh there's the head-

[wraith saffron]

Like frfr?

Like actually factually?

[arctic ginkgo]

Yeah I think they're frfr

[somber sequoia]

They claimed they created from scratch a number of popular avatar bases.

[crystal whale]

And.... how do i do that?

[somber sequoia]

I'd suggest watching tutorials for this, there are many

but I mean, it's literally drag from the Project window into the animation layer you are working with.

[wraith saffron]

I don't know why but a lot of scammers start with "actually", it's really weird... and when you notice it you can't unsee it lol.

[somber sequoia]

oh huh, I should look for that

they're usually very obvious by 1-2 messages anyway

[crystal whale]

It's showing up with everything just not letting me hit record....

[somber sequoia]

I can't tell you much more unless you show a screenshot of the whole window, have the animator open in the middle, and the avatar descriptor in an inspector window

but it sounds like you missed a step along the way

[pine valley]

If you directly select the AnimationClip asset, the animation window will display the clip. You won't be able to record, because you have no Animator to provide context

[crystal whale]

I got it figured out

[pine valley]

It needs to be used by the animator controller that's assigned to your avatar's animator

that's why you get all those random states in your base layer if you use the "add new clip" button in the dropdown

they've gotta go somewhere

[somber sequoia]

I never use that 'cause I don't like cleaning them up 🙂

[rose edge]

fixed the head and neck, but now im in a different problem

[pine valley]

unity found the wrong bones

try manually assigning the appropriate hip/spine/chest bones

...or maybe it found the right bones, and your bones are very wonky (:

[rose edge]

yeah looks like it-

[pine valley]

unity is going to be extremely confused by a roblox skeleton

[somber sequoia]

sometimes it isn't so good at the guessing.... but also that looks quite wonky

[rose edge]

yeh- i did use a Blender IK rig as a base to make it possible

when it's normally used for animations-

[pine valley]

There may be a zero-length Torso bone in between "HumanoidRootPart" and some other bone

Unity only needs a hip and spine bone

so you could skip over that bone

[rose edge]

it doesn't need a spine?

oh-

im stupid ahdfsuh
it doesn't need a chest- is what i meant

[pine valley]

Yeah, the humanoid animation system can deal with having just two bones

[somber sequoia]

it needs a chest but not an upper chest

.. I thought?

[rose edge]

oh i see

well roblox skeletons normally don't have hips-

[pine valley]

both Chest and Upper Chest have the little dashed outline

[somber sequoia]

ohh right but unity requirements are not the same as VRChat's

[rose edge]

actually- i got an idea
i'll assign the arms to the lower parts of the arms since i normally see roblox avatars have arms like that

[arctic ginkgo]

@rose edge if you don't have 3 torso bones then you don't have enough

You need a bone for the hips (where the legs are attached), the spine, then the chest (where the neck and shoulders are attached)

Like I said, all the optional bones are in dashed lines, but this is unity's standard. VRChat also requires that you have a chest bone

[rose edge]

ohhh

[pine valley]

Oh!

[rose edge]

i see i see-

[pine valley]

I forgot about VRC wanting a chest bone

[rose edge]

like these ones for example?

[arctic ginkgo]

Uhh

Are these search results?

I just mean bones in your torso, not bones with torso in the name

[rose edge]

yeah
also, i did some messing around and the bones look like this now

[rose edge]

i looked through, there's no hip, chest nor spine

[arctic ginkgo]

Well then you'll need to create them

They don't need to be named that way btw

[rose edge]

im guessing through blender-

[somber sequoia]

Yes

[somber sequoia]

well that's not bad at all

[pine valley]

note that they would not need to do anything

they'd just need to exist and be connected together in the right order

[rose edge]

well uhh
im taking the easy way out and using a base i found-

[brisk zinc]

Hi does anyone know a fix to this? Should I swap out the textures? I can’t fix the eyebrows and eye lashes for the life of me llol 🤣

[naive bough]

Does anyone know where to find an assless chaps and a leather harnes set with the gun holsters assets?

[crystal whale]

First time doing an animation by hand. And i'm trying to keep it quest compatible

[somber sequoia]

Explain "this", we don't know what you are indicating.

[brisk zinc]

But has anyone else ever had this issue before or is it the version of Blender im in not sure if it’s a Alpha problem 😭😭

[brisk zinc]

Okai so the texture I purchased for whatever reason the eye lashes and eyebrows are blocky and I don’t know how to fix it

[somber sequoia]

Likely they have transparency

That looks like a vroid?

[brisk zinc]

Do I have to use transparency to get rid of them?? Oo

[somber sequoia]

That's one way, but it's not quest-compatible.

[brisk zinc]

No she’s an Amelia 😭 😭

loll

[pine valley]

oh yeah, you're probably meant to paint the eyelashes/etc. onto those meshes

[brisk zinc]

So the creator drew them on I’m assume??

[brisk zinc]

so how do I delete them off lol?? just use transparency?

or just set the eyebrows and lashes to transparency or the whole face texture to transparency?

[tropic gyro]

ur more than likely supposed to use a separate material and set it to trans clipping, or atleast thats how ive had to do it w some heads

[agile niche]

Still better than my dumbass lol. I am still learning how to animate Firearms and Props.

[brisk zinc]

set the old material to transparency or the new material to transparency?

Or should I just sculpt the eyebrows and lashes bc I never ran into an issue like this before 😳

hm yea no shader I just imported the head lol 🤣

[tropic gyro]

whichever material you use on the lashes, there should be one for the skin then one for the lashes and brows.

just to lyk for blender i dont know how to use their material settings, im talking solely unity.

[brisk zinc]

its the texture that came with the head but I know a way to fix it in unity I think… but Im not sure if its a unity issue or just a Blender issue I’m new this issue I’ve never seen blocky eyebrows and eyelashes before and wanted to know is there a fix to this in Blender before I transport it over to Unity idk

[pine valley]

I believe this is just an artifact of how Blender renders the model.

In Unity, you will use materials that make those meshes look less weird

[somber sequoia]

quite possibly your blender material does not have alpha blending enabled

[pine valley]

there are different settings for viewport display vs. the actual behavior when rendered

i've never gotten too good of a handle on those

[quasi crypt]

i got a question so my boyfriend is having trouble with avatar uploading its fine when he uploads his avatar on pc but when he uploads it for quest the pc side becomes an error bot for him so im not sure if there some way to fix that or not

[brisk zinc]

Okay I’ll try to tinker with it some more ty for you help

[brisk zinc]

Ohh but how do you enable Alpha mode?

[somber sequoia]

I don't recall, they've changed it a few times in new blender versions and I've lost track. Material settings for sure, somewhere

[quasi crypt]

nevermind he fixed it he just had to update his vrchat creator companion

[brisk zinc]

Okay thanks I think I’m getting warmer at fixing this ty for helping me!!! Last question tho how do I fix fbx files from downloading as my web-browser in my downloads folder?? Since there was a recent change with my default browser it’s set all the fbx pathways to be downloaded there

[merry holly]

quick question: does physbones squash and stretch rely on more than 1 bone?

because I have these bones for my draw strings and it's just 1 bone for the physbone components, but I can't seem to squash ot stretch them

[agile niche]

It shouldn’t unless several bones are in sync with it.

[dense juniper]

Anyone know what this public shark avi is?

[cedar grail]

wich unity versions is best for Uploading Avatars. i know there was a 2022 one. and a 2019 one?

or can i just use the newest one?

[timber wharf]

current one is 2022.3.22f1

[pine valley]

https://vcc.docs.vrchat.com/guides/getting-started/

Follow these instructions.

[small valve]

How bad is it for a PC medium rank avatar, to have 3x 4096 and 1x 8192 materials?

[night ember]

You should never need textures that high res

[small valve]

its a bunch of textures and I do atlasing right now by myself in Paint.net bcs the automatic atlas creator makde me a 8k textures with 70% of empty space and textures that are not even used by this material

[dry orbit]

Would he mind if I can be of help to him
I can help him to edit the avatar so he can be able to upload it on both comfortable

[quasi crypt]

he had to update his vcc app fully so it all good now but thank you anyway

[dry orbit]

Ok cool 😎

[gritty temple]

Question!

I’ve gotten a few outfit files for a particular model but there’s three Unity files and I can’t translate the ‘readme’ correctly — One file is named SSPD, but it’s a Unity file. Does anyone know why it would be named that way?

[pine valley]

I do not recognize "SSPD"

oh wait, that's the file's name

A .unity file is a scene

[dense fractal]

How to add chest and neck bone to vrc avatar that doesn't have one

Help?

[gritty temple]

That’s what confuses me, haha. The seller gave me several files — Some SSPD, another PSD, and then the Unity scenes. But one Unity scene is named as SSPD which makes me think I need one of the actual SSPD files but I’ve no idea what it would be for 😅

[pine valley]

"SSP" would be a Substance Painter file. I do not know what .sspd would be

[dense fractal]

?

[mint mango]

Hey Yall! This is more of a character design question, but I'm thinking of remaking my model. There's several issues with weight painting, and i think the mesh is a little bit messy. But now i get the opprotunity to re-design it. Does anyone have any cool ideas or suggested changes when it comes to remaking her design?

Her model is supposed to be a reference to the weird liminal parts of old PSX games, as well as late 90's graphics (like worlds.com).

[pine valley]

i helped a friend set up a "low framerate" effect

the model's skeleton is constrained to the skeleton that actually gets controlled by your pose

and the constraints freeze/unfreeze rapidly

[daring viper]

Do you have a YouTube tutorial for that?

[pine valley]

no, but i do have a package i need to finish working on that automates most of the work

it constrains one armature to another

[pine valley]

they used it for an ENA avatar

[keen crystal]

Okay gonna ask here too- I need help setting up an animation for a toggle anyone who knows unity a lot better than me help ;-;

Pls ping or dm me

[clever dirge]

I just migrated all my avatars to the newest unity 2022 version from the previous 2022 version, Worked perfectly, then i tried to update my vrchat sdk and i keep getting these errors everytime

i really want to fix this before furality starts...

[pine valley]

It looks like you're missing a package

a Unity package, in particular

open the Package Manager -- it's in the Window menu up top

You're missing either "Custom NUnit" or "Test Framework"

Switch the Package Manager to "Unity Registry" and install Test Framework

i believe the latter has the former as a dependency

[slate shuttle]

how do you make it so your animations on the action layer still allow you to walk instead of gliding around

[clever dirge]

ill try this

i was just confused because all i did was update unity versions then update sdk versions

[pine valley]

You’d need to apply a mask to the layer

(The layer in the animator, I mean)

[clever dirge]

That fixed it!

thanks!

[slate shuttle]

i tried applying a mask but not only did it not work it made one of the props in the animation not move correctly

[pine valley]

I have actually done very little “normal” animation, so I don’t know too much there

(It’s all wacky FX stuff)

[merry holly]

It seems I am running into a problem where my animations are overlapping?

I am using UV tile discard to hide parts of my mesh, but I have multiple materials. I have two separate sets of animations that toggle the uv tile discard + decals on each material. Here's some attachments to hopefully help explain.

Just a bit lost. I'm not sure how my top animations are conflicting with my bottom animations when they are not accessing the same variables (they are all on the same mesh though).

[solved]: It seems like Unity Animations are not able to distinguish specific materials on a single mesh

[wind iron]

so for some reason im having this issue to where the thumb is fine on one side but its sticking out the whole time on the other one both are on the fist gesture

[spark walrus]

how the heck am I meant to fix this??? I've tried but I can't find anything that could fix it
this is a premade avatar btw. one of Miz's

[spark walrus]

full screenshot just in case

[gilded vector]

my avi's physbones are disabling when i upload it (2019 unity) idk why bc they show up right on unity during playmode but they freeze like they dont exist on gesture manager whats causing this?

[pine valley]

This is probably a red herring

It logs that message every time an avatar upload fails

Look for another error in the console

[pine valley]

is there a reason you are not using 2022.3.22f1?

[gilded vector]

the premade avi im using is in 2019 and idk itll break updating it

had it happen before

but if somethime will work in 2019 i wanna try to fix it there first pls

ill update in on the side

[gilded vector]

do you think its because im on 2019?

[tall dock]

In substance painter the way I'm facing turns transparent, any help?

[gilded vector]

select ur avi in edit mode and flip the normals

its basically inside out lol

[tall dock]

Recalculate inside?

[limpid cargo]

outside*

or, just “Flip”

either may work depending on use case.

[somber sequoia]

I can't answer any questions about Windows, I almost never use it.

[spark walrus]

this is all I found. and im not exactly sure where the 'logs' are

[pine valley]

You have at least one more error; scroll up

[pine valley]

You are missing VRCFury.

(probably)

[spark walrus]

ooh

lemmie fix that in a bit

[slender jewel]

Hi, is there a way I can mirror or flip a humanoid animation I made in unity's engine?

[mint mango]

I've been thinking about doing that, but it does make movement jittery. the effect might be worth it tho!

[pine valley]

Did you manually add the humanoid curves? You can’t record humanoid animations, for sure

[mint mango]

I was also thinking of doing a pixelation filter. I've also wanted to add jittery PlayStation polygons, but all models that implement this use a filter to kinda "simulate it" but imo it doesnt look great and i wish there was a way to do more faithfull jittery polygons

[spark walrus]

that seemed to be the problem! thanks!

[pine valley]

Poiyomi Toon has some neat vertex options

[mint mango]

ill check it out!

[arctic ginkgo]

the jittery effect jsyk comes from vertex snapping since the ps1 couldn't handle non-whole numbers iirc

[pine valley]

One of its modes can round the position of each vertex a little bit

Which gives you that jittery psx look, yea

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah that should look pretty accurate

[mint mango]

awesome!!

[arctic ginkgo]

otherwise i think there's a way to abuse floating point errors with constraints but i'm not sure

i've seen it done for minecraft blocks that abuse it to snap them to the world grid

[mint mango]

there's also texture warping in psx games

dunno if poiyomi has that

[arctic ginkgo]

hmm

[mint mango]

if not its not a huge deal tbh

[arctic ginkgo]

it looks like it comes from linear interpolation rather than perspective interpolation

[pine valley]

You can partially achieve that in a custom shader by telling it to not correctly handle perspective

[lost umbra]

So why is my world constraint not working?

[mint mango]

hmm okay

i might do that or i might quit half way through lol

[pine valley]

That’s a bit more advanced; you’d need to modify a shader a bit

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/direct3dhlsl/dx-graphics-hlsl-struct#remarks

[mint mango]

Hmm doesnt seem like its working, at least not in the editor. no matter how high i set the snapping to it looks the same

nvm im dumb :)))

[lost umbra]

this animation should do something right?

then animation starts off on my avi, but then it shoots back to the center of the world rather than just dropping it

[spark walrus]

anyone know how to add custom stuff to VRC models?

[somber sequoia]

Lots of people do, yes.

[spark walrus]

can you tell me then?

[somber sequoia]

that's such a huge topic that all I can tell you without knowing anything about what you have so far is to watch video tutorials, there are lots.

[spark walrus]

okay

[somber sequoia]

This channel works best for specific, detailed questions

[lost umbra]

Hey Kazin, you think you can take a crack at why my world constraint still isn't working?I tried eiditing both vrc parent constraint weight and also the element source weight

[mint mango]

does poiyomi have a pixelation effect as well?

[somber sequoia]

that sounds like actual work

[lost umbra]

What ends up happenig is, it start off where my avi is then quickly shoot back to the center of the world rather than dropping where I am

I assume based on the error that world constraint itself is jacked and not so much the containers in it

[somber sequoia]

you could probably do something like it, perhaps with the video effects feature, or glitching

[mint mango]

gotcha. I've seen it done on some avatars so im sure theres a way

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure exactly what you mean, so I'll take your word for it

[lost umbra]

here is an example

[arctic ginkgo]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/1xalDo

there's this shader

it doesn't work 100% as you'd expect it to, it masks where the avatar has already rendered and then pixelates it, meaning some pixels get cut off and some of the background gets pixelated as well

[somber sequoia]

Yeah I was going to suggest other shaders

[lost umbra]

Here is the world constraint settings itself

[mint mango]

Yeah thats what im thinking

theres a way to enable 2 shaders at once right?

[arctic ginkgo]

no not really

i mean

you can have two material slots i guess

[mint mango]

i see

[arctic ginkgo]

but that usually only works with transparent materials

[mint mango]

cause I want to use poiyomi effects while pixelating it

[arctic ginkgo]

what you could do is frankenstein the shaders together

the pixel shader is literally just an unlit shader with a grabpass

so you could always just add the grabpass to the end of the locked poiyomi shader

I wanted to have parity with quest and PC outside of that effect so I just copied the mobile shaders and replaced the unlit shader code with it in the pixel shader

you could do the same with poiyomi

I'm having a strange problem right now with creating animations, where my valid animation paths are no longer working and showing as invalid, and any attempt to add properties with the record button does not work

[lost umbra]

yes, thats why I need some help from fresh pair of eyes cause I been staring at this problem for two days now

[idle narwhal]

hey i accidentally closed evv erything somehow

can someone help?

[lost umbra]

is my animator settings wrong?

[ornate stump]

Double click to restore.

[lost umbra]

Can anyone please help me with this world constraint issue?

[arctic ginkgo]

does anyone know why this might be happening?

my animations are invalid and I can't record new ones

the properties don't get added when i change things

this is clearly the correct path

[lost umbra]

figured it out

one issue left, how do you properly sync the animations?

I have issues with my knife flip desync on servers

like if I hold the knife up, some people see it down

and vice versa

so do I just make a bool version as well?

This is what I have setup right now and it goes out of sync

I assume that's what you meant @pine valley

[gritty temple]

Real quick — How do you make a copy of an Unity avatar project that was already uploaded to VRChat’s SDK but not have it rewrite the already uploaded project? Do I just detach the blueprint?

Totally not asking because I overwrote my own avatar with it’s copy

[ornate stump]

Just detach the blueprint ID.

Also your terminologies are off:
"Avatar project" should refer to unity project with vrc avatar sdk installed.
Uploading is not to "VRChat's SDK" but to just "VRChat". The sdk is to built your model to be uploaded to VRChat.

[static herald]

Heyyyy!! So I recently commissioned someone and im their first Quest commissioner, and so basically.. they AND I wanna know how we can make the Right one look like the Left?

[somber meadow]

Use a different shader on the material

on Quest that'll be Toon

[static herald]

Elaborate?

[ancient oriole]

Does anyone know why this mesh wont appear when I apply it?
For context: I exported it to blender to adjust a shapekey then back into unity—and now the imported version doesn't work.

[ornate stump]

Just changing material shader to use ToonLit shader.

[ornate stump]

You should not be switching out the mesh slot. Rather you should edit and overwrite on the original fbx file.

[ancient oriole]

Strange, because i've always done it this way and it usually works.

Will try though.

[arctic ginkgo]

I'm having trouble with avatar audio, it was working perfectly fine, and then I updated the avatar with no changes to the audio and it doesn't work. Trouble is, it's working compeletly fine using gesture manager, and since I didn't edit the audio source whatsoever, it wouldn't be the audio source settings

I always seem to have issues with avatar audio for some reason

[fallow grail]

in reference to an armature link, anyone know?

i cant seem to find what they mean

[arctic ginkgo]

nvm, seems the quest version somehow got uploaded to PC even though i'm using per-platform override

[glacial vale]

getting this error when trying to upload to andriod build, tried a bunch of things cant figure out how to fix it

[cinder pulsar]

You're on build and test?

[cinder pulsar]

Plus you sure you've installed the android package for unity?

[sudden violet]

If you want to sync something, without understanding how syncing works, the easiest way is to put a parameter driver with a boolean between the two animations that gets set to true/false, and make a second transition between the two that's driven from said parameter.

Furthermore, make sure to add the parameter <IsLocal> set to <True> on the transition that utilises the logic (Contacts, Physbones) to make it even more sync-proof.

I'll grab a screenshot to show you what that looks like from a gun i made

• these are the two transitions, with the boolean value i'm talking about. It's set to local-only because it's synced in the parameters tab already

1st image: The logic. This is done locally, and is done with IsLocal: True
2nd image: The syncing itself. This only moves with the boolean we've set.

[vernal moss]

Sooooo I wanna add face tracking to an avatar... How would I go about doing that???

I wanna do it the good ol fashioned way (so blendshapes and pain) My only question would be how to set it up into Unity? Is there an extra step I might've missed??

[still shuttle]

Get Jerry's face tracking prefabs

[vernal moss]

Will it work on ANY avatar?

Or just furries, cuz thats where I saw it-

[ornate stump]

Only the avatar that has face tracking blendshapes. If it doesn't have face tracking blendshape, you have to either find face tracking extension for that avatar, or create blendshapes yourself.

[vernal moss]

Are there FT guides I could follow???

If so that would be INSANELY helpful

If not, ehhhh I'll be fine

Could someone send the prefabs? 👀

[pine valley]

It works until it doesn’t!

This will break if you change the number/order of bones, notably

[ancient oriole]

ohhhhhhhhhh

That's really good to know.

[pine valley]

The SkinnedMeshRenderer contains information about which bones it uses

That doesn’t get updated if you switch out the mesh

[ancient oriole]

So don't remove unweighted bones with cats, noted.
TY

[pine valley]

well, ideally, you'd just stop swapping out the mesh asset!

update the FBX and let Unity reimport it

as long as you don't unpack the model prefab, your avatar will update correctly

(if you do unpack, you'll run into the exact same issue -- the SkinnedMeshRenderer's list of bones gets stale)

[south kraken]

https://docs.vrcft.io/docs/tutorial-avatars/tutorial-avatars-extras/unified-blendshapes
list of blendshapes for UE Facetracking prefabs (<--comes with Jerry's)

you dont need all of them, just make however many or few you want.

vrchat also doesnt really have eyebrow tracking, or at least not really anything good, nor does it have nose tracking so i just skip those or make the eyebrows move with the eyelids

PS and before people say its possible to track those though if you have the hardware, yes i know thats technically true.

[south kraken]

theres a mirror button for it in the animator

[pine valley]

Oh, I forgot that you can do that on the animator state, too!

I was thinking strictly about importing the animation

good catch

[ancient oriole]

new problem, the bones are all messed up on export (the prefabed is still packed.)
what could cause this? bad export settings?

[pine valley]

You may have the wrong scaling mode selected in Blender.

The two meaningful choices are "All Local" (the default) and "FBX All"

I prefer the latter. It gives you an armature with a scale of [1, 1, 1]

rather than the wacky [100, 100, 100] scale you get from All Local

You choose this in the FBX export window

If your export settings don't match what was originally used, then the humanoid avatar can wind up being very wrong

unity thinks that a bone belongs at [0, 0.01, 0] when it should really be at [0, 1, 0]

and you get exploded

[prisma frigate]

My new sleep paralysis demon. Lol

[ancient oriole]

I already had it on that, could it be the "Forward" and "up" xyz axis's under the "FBX all"?

because I have zero clue what this avatar is meant to export on

[pine valley]

No, those should probably be left untouched

If you drag a new instance of the model into the scene, does it look correct?

[ancient oriole]

yeah it just messes up in play mode

[pine valley]

Check that the Mesh field isn't overridden on your body's SkinndMeshRenderer

there should not be a blue bar next to it

If it blows up just when the animator is running, you may need to reset the humanoid avatar configuration

you'd click the model asset, go to the "Rig" tab in the inspector, and hit Configure

see if it looks exploded in that configuration screen

you can reset it by going to the bottom of the inspector and doing Pose > Reset

(or Pose > Enforce T-Pose if unity complains the model isn't in a t-pose after doing that)

The humanoid avatar tells Unity which part of your body is which, and what the rest positions + rotations of your bones are

[pine valley]

This may be relevant, because it looks like all of your bones got...turned

[pine valley]

Doing this should clear things up

[ancient oriole]

okay so reapplying the huamnoid rig kinda fixed it but the hair and top shoulder bones still are messed up

[pine valley]

Is the hair a separate model?

i.e. a completely separate FBX

[ancient oriole]

Yes

[pine valley]

You may need to do the same process to it

Export a new FBX, then reset the humanoid avatar pose

assuming it's attached with VRCFury and has an entire humanoid skeleton, that is

if it's just a few bones and you parent it to your head, then it may just need to be rotated

I do think your model was exported with some kind of non-standard bone orientation

i love coordinate spaces!!!

[ancient oriole]

Yeah I think Im gonna have to trial and error it until it works, because nothin seems to be fixin the hair rotation.

Thanks for the help so far!

[pine valley]

Is the hair parented directly to your head?

[ancient oriole]

Yep

[pine valley]

Ah, okay, you may just need to rotate it around

[ancient oriole]

the root of the object is where an avi's feet would be though, so I can't just rotate it back on

[pine valley]

can you show me the hierarchy?

[pine valley]

okay, so you have a Ponytail.fbx, and you've parented an instance of it to your head

hold alt and expand the Ponytail object so that all of the children are shown

[ancient oriole]

idk how useful this is but for reference this is what happens when i reset it to 0,0,0's

[pine valley]

You may be able to rotate Ponytail_Root or Ponytail_main

[ancient oriole]

Horrah

[pine valley]

If you've attached any other objects to your avatar, you should check that they aren't now rotated wrongly

[ancient oriole]

the clothes are still broken but I wasn't gonna use them anyways so i can just ignore it

[pine valley]

You might just need to set blendshapes

The clothing looks to be oriented properly

[ancient oriole]

nah they're munted lol

[pine valley]

whoops

[ancient oriole]

as I said though, aint gonna use em--planing on fitting another models clothes on anyways

[pine valley]

Make sure they don't have overridden mesh references tho

and even if you can't see anything, still consider right clicking on their SkinnedMeshRenderers and doing Modified Component > Revert

I have seen a few cases where, despite not being displayed in the inspector, the bone list somehow gets an override on it

which means the renderer is now using the wrong bones

this causes the model to go all over the place

If the clothing looks fine on a new instance of the model prefab, then you definitely have an override somewhere on your avatar

[ancient oriole]

Ah well atleast it actually works now, thanks again!

Classic avi work--3 million hoops just to add a blendshape

[wicked meteor]

If anybody ever has this error on unity after stress testing ur pc try redownloading ur drivers program(adrenaline, nvidia ). Its what fixed it for me <3

[timid kite]

why is this happening with the hair? i did move some strands around in blender if that matters

[night ember]

do you have multiple physbone components

[sudden violet]

could also be physbones being too close to colliders

[agile niche]

Holy Ponytail bone!

[agile niche]

I made a Kyoko with Rindo hair, at least it looks good lol. Just needed a shit ton of rescaling and adjusting.

[slender jewel]

Having a weird issue where I can't see through my avatar, I have backface culling on, I'm using Poiyomi. Any ideas?

[somber sequoia]

you want to see through it?

[slender jewel]

Like I physically can't see myself in the mirror from my viewball because the texture is on the inside of my mesh. I see now it's because I have outlines on and they have front face culling on. I'm trying to figure out a way to keep my outlines and be able to still see myself.

[somber sequoia]

is your rig weird? Maybe your view ball is in a weird place?
VRChat by default should shrink the head and anything attached to it so you can see

[slender jewel]

I have the viewball in the neck a little because the head is big, but that's always worked for me.

[somber sequoia]

that's probably what's blocking you

[slender jewel]

Yeah, that was it. I don't know why that changed, that never happened to me before.

[slender jewel]

I did something stupid and I'm wondering if there's an easier way to fix it.
The default position of the avatar I'm doing has it's mouth open, and then I have a closed state for SIL, but all the other mouth shapes are built from the open mouth state so it's pretty distorted when using them on the closed mouth state.
How I'm fixing it right now is making all the mouth shapes relative to the closed mouth instead of the basis in blender, but is there a better way to do that? I usually make the default closed mouth, I don't know why I didn't this time.

[crystal whale]

When using pumpkins avatar tools thing, how do i get my avatar to go back to a T pose?

[limpid cargo]

using vrc rotation constraint,
twist bone should check “solve in local space”?

[mint mango]

okay this is a fun issue ive never had before. the shading on the hair looks like flipped normals. despite the normals being perfectly fine. Any guesses?

or is it just smooth shading acting weird with a low poly model?

[pine valley]

That's your issue.

The normals are bending really far across a single triangle

[mint mango]

i see

[pine valley]

Splitting the outer edge will help a lot

the left side has split edges; the right side doesn't

you can mark edges sharp and then use an Edge Split modifier to split just sharp edges

[mint mango]

ah yeah that fixed it! makes sense lol. I wasnt using auto smooth because it split some edges i didnt want to be split but fine tuning the modifier worked!

[nocturne estuary]

Perchance does anybody know how to attach a nightbeast head to a novabeast body?

Dm or ping me to lmk you responded

[desert elk]

don't ask for DMs you'll get scammers.
and it's the same as any other avatar

take it to blender, delete one head, attach the other

ctrl j

[dusk pulsar]

Yes, Blender, you might need to do some manual weight paint fix or seamless connection or at least to look a bit natural

[desert elk]

yup

exactly

[dusk pulsar]

Oh right...
How do I check physbone collisions? Do I add an empty object, add collider to it and then add that "empty object" into colliders for the physbone, after -> play mode and move it around to check?

[limpid cargo]

yes, but you should use “game” scene

[primal spruce]

How can i make my avatar world drop?
where do i make the toggle and do i make the world drop on amature? or what?

[analog plover]

The shitting fucking shit is a world drop

[dusk pulsar]

When you can place an item in the world

[pine valley]

it sounds like you'e using VRCFury here

[dusk pulsar]

Yes, or... do it manually if you have patience

VRCFury is easier to do

[pine valley]

I haven't actually thought about what happens if you just freeze your armature in place

[analog plover]

https://tenor.com/view/skeletrix-gif-4618297289934284870

[pine valley]

i've done this before by creating an extra copy of my armature

my physical body's armature follows the copied armature

and i can then freeze those constraints to lock myself in place

[limpid cargo]

no vrc constraint tutorial for twist bone,
should i use “solve in local space” ?

[languid swallow]

A friend of mine is struggling with an avatar and has asked me to ask here for help

[primal spruce]

Yes i am, Im not sure if im doing something wrong but i wanna freeze everything in place

[languid swallow]

"My avatars mouth isnt moving even tho the lip sync is on and looks correct"

[limpid cargo]

i think it must be named "Body"

[pine valley]

The object name doesn't matter

That looks okay, but make sure that "Head" is actually the right object

double clicking on the "Head (Skinned Mesh Renderer)" field will select the Head object

you can then mess with the blendshapes on its SkinnedMeshRenderer

[languid swallow]

I'll send them your replies and wait for a response from them

[true flower]

I really just need someone to say "yes, stripping that avatar to the bones and rebuilding it is probably your best option"

[pine valley]

that's probably unity warning you about having too many pixel lights, rather than VRChat

note that you can't even use lights on mobile avatars

that basically just means Light components

your avatar should not have any of them at all if it's meant to be a Quest avatar

(perhaps you have a demo scene open that has lights in it?)

[vagrant kindle]

Keep getting these errors that prevent me from uploading my avatar
The errors dont seem very useful to me I cant really tell whats going on.

Its either "Clearing blueprint ID"
Or just failed to upload file with no other red errors

[somber sequoia]

You can name it whatever you want.

[somber sequoia]

you have 8 errors but only showed the last two. Always inspect (or share) the first 2-3, at the top, that's probably where the actual issue is, and the rest are just side-effects.

[vagrant kindle]

They're just duplicates from not clearing ;~;

let me try again and clear

[somber sequoia]

yeah clear then retry.

[vagrant kindle]

Same deal

[somber sequoia]

and that blueprint ID is cleared?

[vagrant kindle]

yep! this is a fresh avatar
ive made 5 different new project files as well

[somber sequoia]

weird, no idea then

[vagrant kindle]

tried the fix here too #vrchat-videos message

[pine valley]

the "clearing blueprint ID" message is almost always just a red herring

it gets printed every time an upload fails

even if you aren't trying to update someone else's avatar

[somber sequoia]

yeah but it's not printing other reasons, unfortunately

[pine valley]

unhide warnings and make sure there's nothing funny in there

[vagrant kindle]

whats weird is i only got the blueprint id issue after i reopened the project
otherwise it was just the first error

[pine valley]

and info messages, too

[vagrant kindle]

oaky

[pine valley]

it looks like you mostly have shader warnings, and those won't stop an upload

[vagrant kindle]

yeah almost all of them are poyoimi warnings

[tough void]

where do i suggest avatars?

[wooden nova]

how would i prevent the hands on my avatar from disappearing

[tough void]

guess i suggest them here

[somber sequoia]

suggest?

[tough void]

yea

if anyones bored

i cant model for crap

this beauty

he's already been a thing for 2 days and he doesnt exist

[left lotus]

Hello, so im having a bit of a problem trying to upload a quest version of a test avatar I had created for a friend, I'm not sure exactly what I am doing to cause errors. I can upload it fine to my PC, but when i try to upload it through the "android" selection it tells me theres an error and build has failed.

I'm extrmely new to this and I'm just worried ill mess something up because youtube isnt helping

[tough void]

bruh

its THESE kinds of servers

the ones where you need a certain level to send gifs

[left lotus]

I-

[somber sequoia]

because this is a technical discussion channel rather than gif spam?

[tough void]

could be a gif of a character you want to use for reference

but im not willing to argue

[somber sequoia]

sure, that'd be fine. difficult to police that though

[tough void]

you can just, open the link

but i deleted it already

[somber sequoia]

it didn't really add any value anyway

[tough void]

ok

anywayss

[vagrant kindle]

People are trying to ask for help with their avatars problems here. If you want to discuss getting work on a model your interested in that's probably more suited to be posted in #1139216499123437668 or #avatar-general.
Not here.

[tough void]

assuming none of you are willing to model this so im just gonna wait for some creative deltarune fan to make a model of da Roaring Knight

Sorry i wasted ur alls time

[vagrant kindle]

Something must be actually wrong, I can upload the test model just fine but if i try to build and publish i get the same error.
I tried this again with a model I know works and for some reason its no longer uploading. These are the only two errors I get.

The rest are Poiyomi warnings with one animation exit time warning.

[pine valley]

See if there is any interesting text when you select the "Failed to upload" log entries

(try both of them)

the bottom half of the console displays the full text of the log message

[vagrant kindle]

I suppose I dont know what im looking at but nothing looks too crazy.

[pine valley]

nothing immediately obvious

i was hoping for some extra descriptions

oh, but check the other "Failed to upload" log entry

you only clicked on one

i'm looking around the SDK source to see if it gives any hints

[vagrant kindle]

Im on 2022.3.22f1 and these are my packages im using btw

I should always be using the newest SDK right?
when i make a new project file thorugh vcc its always a version or so behind and i need to update it

[pine valley]

I was talking about the first message, that says "Failed to upload avatar!"

[vagrant kindle]

ah

[pine valley]

however, i just saw that it's logged immediately before the first error

so, not needed

[tall dock]

Im so confused on how to change the standing motion by default from GogoLoco, this ain't working and my brain stopped working right, help! QwQ

[vagrant kindle]

I heard that if a preview image file is too big it can cause unexplaind issues so lemme retry using the scene capture

[pine valley]

Are you doing a multi-platform avatar build?

I see no way for a simple upload to log "Failed to upload file" without logging another error message. However, I do see ways for a multi-part upload to do that.

e.g. the upload getting cancelled (for whatever reason)

[vagrant kindle]

im not even sure how do do that so id assume pc only
it says windows in the bottom right corner
yeah windows only

the blue loading bar on the SDK gets to like 80% uploaded then it fails

[pine valley]

Correct. Your project templates might be a bit out of date (i dunno if they get updated immediately after a new SDK releases)

exciting; i crashed unity by messing with the platform picker

can you screenshot the control panel?

[vagrant kindle]

the whole thing after a upload?

its like 147 warnings ahaha which is a lil strange

[pine valley]

That's probably just a big pile of shader warnings

[vagrant kindle]

yeh

[pine valley]

you can get a lot of them from Poiyomi because of all the unique shader versions created by locking

[vagrant kindle]

right yeha exactly what they are

[languid swallow]

They got the mouth to sync up, thanks.

[rigid hemlock]

i made a dumb, how do i get back bones i deleted off a prefab without having to readd the whole fbx?

[night ember]

ctrl z

[rigid hemlock]

i did it a while ago

didn't know it was dumb

[night ember]

you cant

[rigid hemlock]

D:

[warped yew]

Yo wsp

[night ember]

[rigid hemlock]

I ended up fixing by renaming the bones in blender so the appeared in the prefab, then reverting the mesh to the original

[pine valley]

is this actually stopping you from uploading?

show me what you're actually seeing

a screenshot of the console would be good

[vagrant kindle]

no clue then? should i reinstall everything? hard to tell whats going on if this is happening for all avatars

[pine valley]

This is not why it’s failing validation. Look at the error messages further up

(Although it may be related 😉 )

[somber meadow]

2 more errors aren't visible in that screenshot

[cinder frost]

Okay is there a way to keep children of physbones always pointing up in world space without gravity

[pine valley]

VRChat used to let you (ab)use the particle shader to get transparency on Quest avatars

I believe that changed a few months ago

For the label on this can, you can just fill the background of the image with the same color as the can

[frigid glade]

Or u can use particles multiply shader. It’s not the best but it works well for some things

[tall dock]

I can't put physbones on the toes, whenever I do on unity they won't move, help qwq

[pine valley]

yeah, Multiply darkens the existing color with the new color

white doesn't do anything at all

[pine valley]

Are you putting the physbones on the individual toe bones?

if so, you need to set a non-zero value for "Endpoint Position"

(particularly if you aren't exporting end bones)

otherwise, the physbone only has one bone to work with, and it can't actually do anything

Blender is a bit unique in how its bones have a head and a tail

as far as Unity is concerned, your toe bones are single points

[tall dock]

How so? and yes im putting them in individual toe bones

[pine valley]

look at the physbone component

[tall dock]

Ohhh okay

[pine valley]

i think you want to try setting the Y component to some small number

[tall dock]

In transform?

[tall dock]

Ohh

[pine valley]

No, on the Endpoint Position.

it is a property of the VRCPhysbone component.

[tall dock]

Would it help if i create a random bone with no weights and just attach it?

[pine valley]

It would, but you don't need to

[tall dock]

Oh okay, i see it

it's all in 0

so the y component i should modify?

[weary imp]

please help this is literaly my avatar and first time i want to upload there is no blueprint. its driving me crazy

[pine valley]

the math is pretty much just

red1 * red2
green1 * green2
blue1 * blue2

hence, multiply

It's similar to how the tint color on your materials work

you multiply that with the color from the texture

if your tint color is white, nothing happens

[steep meteor]

Heya guys, coming here with a slight confusion. I've followed this persons tutorial about world contraints: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pknSS56Abkk and they work. But only i am able to see them, I am using VRCFury on my avi, added the custom controller as FX etc etc. Is there maybe something i have to check for it to be shown to others?

[somber meadow]

making world constraints like that is extremely out of date, VRChat constraints have a system built in for it

VRCFury also just has a world drop component which will make this really easy

[steep meteor]

Got it, thanks for the info

[somber meadow]

if you want to do it manually animate the "Freeze to world" toggle in the advanced options on vrchat constraints

[steep meteor]

Got it working with VRCFury, thanks!

[vernal moss]

Where do I get JUST the prefabs for Jerry's Face Tracking?

Not an avatar, JUST the prefabs

[somber meadow]

Google's first result

https://github.com/Adjerry91/VRCFaceTracking-Templates?tab=readme-ov-file#vrcfacetracking-templates

[vernal moss]

Much obliged

🫡

[slender jewel]

What's the max amount of tris a Quest-Compatible Avatar can have?

[surreal salmon]

20000

tho no hard limit

[left lotus]

Hai, slightly new user here, im trying to upload my own vrchat avatar for my own personal use but im not sure if im doing it right, i did what I was supposed to do in blender, but now im not sure how i would load it up in unity, im extremely new to this and would appreciate ant tips and tricks you all are willing to give.

[somber meadow]

export it to a FBX into your assets folder of your Unity Project

[tepid oyster]

I'm confused on why one of the hand paw bean thingamajigs dont move with the finger it's supposed to be attatched to

I tried weight painting yes

and i check to make sure it was aight but still

can someone tell me why and how to fix this?

(im using blender btw)

[naive moth]

Hey! could someone help me on why my avatar body is so bright?

the emmisions are set to 0.1

on both the head and body

[somber meadow]

what shader

[naive moth]

poi toon

[somber meadow]

screenshot the material settings responsible for emission

[naive moth]

body

[somber meadow]

is that initial screenshot from a world with AudioLink?

[naive moth]

the audiolink works so i think so

[somber meadow]

cause your strength is either 1 or 2 with audiolink

[naive moth]

thats the head

oh well I set them to zero to test but it did not change anything

[night ember]

the audiolink settings kinda override the emission strength

[bright grotto]

is anyone else experiencing issues logging into the SDK?

[tepid oyster]

beep?

[naive moth]

can you explain what that means?

[bright grotto]

nvm seems as tho i just forgot to update the sdk files

[somber sequoia]

with audiolink minimum set to 1 that means emission is 1 if audiolink is present in the world, no matter what it is doing.

[naive moth]

so what should audiolink be set to minium

0?

[somber sequoia]

what do you want it set to?

[naive moth]

not suure?

[somber sequoia]

probably figure out what you want it to look like then

there's no right or wrong answer here

[worn kiln]

generally, 0 is fine. as most not want emit when nothing.
but like keep minimum brightness to 0,04 kind for at least visible even complete darkness kind of world.

So it is how you want to be visible when nothing going.
If you want to be just follow how bright world be, 0 is answer.

[naive moth]

yeah i don't want it to do anything without sound

[somber sequoia]

well... for multiply you want that to 1 for "don't react to audio"

Add you want to be 0.

you know, because math.

[pine valley]

perhaps the emission color is a very bright HDR color

oops, I was scorlled back

[somber sequoia]

Yeah - good to note though, if that emission color is super bright, it'll be noticeable at low levels

it's a whole bunch of math on the colors, base * emission * audiolink multiplier + audiolink add

[worn kiln]

yeap

[somber sequoia]

(I don't recall the order of operations though, so that ^ may not be accurate)

[worn kiln]

(when need some ref)
https://www.poiyomi.com/audio-link/

[naive moth]

ty

tthat did it

the head is a slighty different tint than body though , ill make sure the hdr matches i suppose right?

[somber sequoia]

I merge the meshes, easier that way 🙂

[naive moth]

is that in blender or something?

[somber sequoia]

yep, blender or something similar

but you can probably make it look the same in Unity - use the same shader settings and have the same object in the anchor override slot on the mesh renderer - I use the chest bone.

[naive moth]

ok ill try

[whole lark]

Does anyone know what was going on with this model. It's supposed to be belle from zenless zone zero. I found it in a world and it looked fine for me and my other quest using friend. However, it looked incorrect for my friend using his pc.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/627703643491270656/1361171342262534174/ezgif-7fabce8fa6b371.gif

[wanton surge]

does anyone know how to log into the cc because i havent made avis in quite some time and i cant seem to upload it and im a trusted user on vrchat

[vast geyser]

so there is this headchop thing to show stuff from your head in first person, is there also the inverse for generic rigs? i kinda wanna hide some bones as if it were a humanoid head

[somber sequoia]

if you mean VCC you don't login to that?

[somber sequoia]

Sure, HeadChop works for things that aren't the head, look at the "scale factor" setting

[vast geyser]

huhh is that scale factor thing new? never noticed it before

[somber sequoia]

I suspect you just ignored it until someone pointed it out.... like I did 🙂

I mean, I also ignored it until someone mentioned it

[vast geyser]

could be 😅

[sudden tendon]

Question... how does VR chat respond to non humanoid rigs, ie a full animal?

[night ember]

awful to try and animate since nonhumanoid rigs arent supported

you need at least a humanoid rig to have a properly supported avatar even if the bones arent actually weighted to anything

[sudden tendon]

So... not worth it I guess?

[surreal salmon]

there are manny rigs for something like this but they often are based on humanoid rig

[sudden tendon]

hmm?

[surreal salmon]

like u can have a taur but its likely gonna have constraints mirror puppiting hind legs or something

[sudden tendon]

Yeah... that seems out of my league...

[surreal salmon]

or u can have no mesh tied to leg bones and just a phys bone on ur tail

for like a naga

[sudden tendon]

I've never rigged a model before but I've made them.

I might just make some more standard models for the time being then

Thanks for the insight

[surreal salmon]

ye i dont mess with constraints myself much yet

[sudden tendon]

Well, I've also never modelled humanoids either so... that's why I was attempting to start with animal

You can probably guess the animal

[surreal salmon]

generic rigs are acceptable to vrc

[sudden tendon]

It just doesn't sound simple or fun, especially for having never rigged before

Maybe after I make a few more standard models

[surreal salmon]

have fun, hope it goes well

[sudden tendon]

Ty for the help

[surreal salmon]

np

[ripe pond]

any one know how to make the tail not stiff

[supple cloud]

did you use bone phycis?

[ripe pond]

bone physic?

[supple cloud]

yeah so your tail dont get stiff and freely moves while you moving

[ripe pond]

ok thank

[supple cloud]

yw

[carmine bridge]

the scarf isnt scarfing...

so a bit of context, I got the base robot model off of gumroad, but got the scarf from a gmod addon that I edited to be just the scarf, however, whenever I put into unity to port to VRC, it breaks and flips itself

i've tried switching to parenting it from the chest to the neck, tried using parent constraints, tried rotating it the other direction, but nothing seems to fix it

nvm... its fixed

[sly stone]

Anyone know how to make it where in vrc her tail wont disconnect when shes moving? Anytime I go to root it it makes her all messed up

[wraith blaze]

After using a bunch of VRCfury components to "Move or Rename Menu Item" iim getting loads of BlendTree and Controller errors where they say the perameter 'FXWeight" does not exist/ or does not exist in controller. does anyone know why this be? or how to fix it?

TF?

[trim jacinth]

For some reason my gestures stop working on my avi when I open it in unity

Like my clothes switching and stuff can someone help?

[somber sequoia]

in play mode? or just edit mode

[azure crown]

Any idea why my avi is in the ground?
Viewpoint is correct and configure is fine I enforce t pose and works fine (despite the werid viewpoint)

And if I move it down more the model itself it still half in the ground

[somber sequoia]

is your avatar's origin at the avatar's feet, and actually at 0,0,0?

[azure crown]

Yeah both armature and main thing

[somber sequoia]

that first one doesn't look like the avatar is standing on the world origin

oh you have 'center' selected

[azure crown]

Don't think i see it or im blind

[somber sequoia]

that's a weird armature scale too

[azure crown]

it was tall if i kept it normal

[wraith blaze]

pls help

[clever dirge]

ive been trying for ages to figure out how to pair these bones i had to hand make to move each individual strand of hair and im about to lose it

does anyone know how to parent each individual bone to each strand of hair?

[trim jacinth]

in playmode

[rigid hemlock]

you have to weight paint them

[amber gull]

hello can someone please help me why sometimes when i export my fbx file into unity sometimes the clothes looks lil wonky or weird but on blender it looks fine?

[graceful pilot]

trying to upload my avi but i jsut see this

[night ember]

Literally as it says
You are missing files

[graceful pilot]

the thing is i think i have literally everything i could idk what im missing

[night ember]

Something about face tracking apparently

Whered you even get the model

[night ember]

Thats not telling me anything

[graceful pilot]

gumraod

[night ember]

And which one on gumroad?

[graceful pilot]

nvm i fixed it

[primal spruce]

anyway to make a toggle where You cant see it but other people can?

[ashen yarrow]

could anyone make a quick tutorial on how to add custom blinking to a avatar? i’ve looked through so many and there either to old or they add the toggle version i just want it where its just the blinking ive rarely used the animator so im genuinely struggling to to much with figuring this out and even if i follow the tutorial with the toggle it doesnt work

[sudden violet]

Parameter <IsLocal> set to <False> in the transition should do that

[primal spruce]

Parameter? i usually use VRCFury to make toggles

[sudden violet]

oh, i can't help you there, i don't use these.

[primal spruce]

thats alright, do you know if there a tutorial showing how to make togglers without vrc fury? so i can find the parameter thing

[sudden violet]

nope, i do everything without these plugins. I remember trying to edit things with VRCfury / Modular, but it was more of a head-ache than simply merging the controllers with AV3 avatar manager, and doing it the normal way

[primal spruce]

So you used AV3 avatar manager, and thats where i can make the local stuff?

[sudden violet]

you'd need a basic understanding of controllers, but yes.

[primal spruce]

Alright Thank you

[sudden violet]

if it helps, i will guess you can simply edit the controller in question, and still use VRCfury.

i'll get a few images for you, 1 min

[primal spruce]

also is if u make local false
so other ppl on pc andq uest see it but you dont

is that for all toggles? or just one

[sudden violet]

step 1: Open your controller, hit parameters, create a new BOOLEAN parameter named "IsLocal", case sensitive
step 2: find the toggle in question, add this parameter set to false to both transitions

You'll have to do it for all of them.

i'm not 100% sure that this works, but try it out with one toggle, it should

[sleek cove]

how can i fix this?

[mossy nacelle]

There's no camera preview shown for the thumbnail and if I click capture it turns blank.
I've tried using different cameras, restarting unity.. no luck so far..

[snow goblet]

is there a rate-limit to updating avatars? im about to mass update around 10 avatars and wanna make sure i dont get 403'd

[small valve]

I have a dance animation that uses fingers and everything works, only the finger works if I put the animation straight to the Avatar in Unity and hit Play. but in VRChat / GestureManager its animated but not the fingers.

I checked multiple times and its the same animation. I used in "Action" and "FX" Controller.

[bold shoal]

I got a paid avatar and I want to remove some toggle options. I figured out how to delete the actual toggle in unity but the option in the menu wheel still comes up, how do I remove it?

[somber sequoia]

edit the menu, delete the item.

the main menu is under "Expressions" in the Avatar Descriptor - you may have to follow the trail down to sub-menus though.

[pearl pumice]

Uuuuhhh why can't I see the alerts???

[somber meadow]

the failed validations are in the console

[dim cloak]

Hello, can anyone create and model avatars? I need help

[somber sequoia]

lots of us in here can, ask your questions

[somber meadow]

This server has 319k members, there's definitely someone for that

[sacred shadow]

hello, would anyone here be willing to sanity check how i have audiolink set up? i think i messed up somewhere

[somber sequoia]

If it works how you want, it's correct. Otherwise, explain what you did and why it's not right.

[sacred shadow]

so i set the emmission map to include both the eyes and markings on the avatar in poiyomi, and set audiolink to multipy emission strength based off the bass

but only the eyes are reacting

[somber meadow]

screenshot the entire emission settings section

[sacred shadow]

here ya go

[somber sequoia]

You probably don't need the same texture in mask and map

[sacred shadow]

just map then?

[somber sequoia]

... what version of poi is this?

[somber meadow]

seems fairly older

[somber sequoia]

yeah quite old, guessing 7?

[sacred shadow]

7.3.050

[somber sequoia]

interesting.

[somber meadow]

yeah I'd update

[sacred shadow]

one sec, switching to 9.2.43

[somber meadow]

it's not one click though

[sacred shadow]

switched

[somber meadow]

https://www.poiyomi.com/general/upgrade/v7-upgrade

only v8 has a one click upgrade option when going up to v9

you'll need to follow this upgrade guide if this material was already fully setup for v7

[sacred shadow]

ill take a look, im using the deira base so theres a lot thats aging

[true flower]

So I have an animation included with my (apparently older, apparently using broken components) avatar. The Properties in the scrrenshot are all greyed out (kinda hard to tell in that image) as are the Paly button and the Record. Could there be a lock somewhere in the program that I need to release, or is this file borked and I'd be better spending my time making a whole new one? (this is after fighting with it for several days, on and off)

[snow goblet]

sorry for the late reply.
when you upload an avatar, it will ask if you are allowed to upload it in the first place. simply click "yes". if this pop-up doesnt appear, make sure you have the VRChat SDK up to date and reload the SDK

[somber meadow]

Unity has no reference where your property paths are, you need to attach the animator controller with the animation to the animator component's controller slot located on the root object of your avatar

[true flower]

.................................................................... (Gears turning, math symbols float in midair)
Ok, let me repeat that back to make sure I got it: You're saying the animation has come 'detached" from the object it's meant to be animating, something like a cord having come unplugged. What I need to do is to trace the 'cords' back to their assigned places and reconnect them. Yes?
I'm trying to learn, so doing it the hard way is something I'm deliberately aiming for before scrapping it and starting over with a whole new animation file. 😅

[sudden violet]

Your avatar has a component called "Animator". Throw your controller with these animations in there.

[tepid oyster]

Just checking to see if anybody can help me solve this now

[true flower]

I feel like this wasn't right

[somber sequoia]

Did you say that it worked in Blender? I'm not sure I understood what you mean by "it was aight"

[tepid oyster]

I mean that Im using blender for this model and what I meant by “it was aight” was that I checked the whole weight paint thing and it seemed fine

But the issue still remains

[somber sequoia]

Right but did you rotate the bone around in Blender and observe the mesh moving properly?

[vernal quarry]

Is there a way to add a material swap toggle on a quest avatar? or is that only possible on pc?

[true flower]

OH! I see now, NOW I can edit the animation... Awesomesauce, thank you!

[somber sequoia]

Works just like on PC

[tepid oyster]

Like if the paw pad thing isn’t attatched (even tho it’s weight painted)

[somber sequoia]

Is that a separate object? If so, does it also have an armature modifier and is weight painted?

[sacred shadow]

alright, updated to latest, should i use a mask or map?

[somber sequoia]

You should understand the difference between the two. Mask a greyscale texture for "put emission here" and map is a RGB texture for "put emission colors here". Using both together can result in fun effects.

[sacred shadow]

cool, so i should make seperate textures rather than how it was set up using the same

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what effect you want so can't really tell you exactly what to do

[sacred shadow]

i just want it to do something

since earlier it wasnt doing anything at all

this should be enough, thanks

[true flower]

Lordy, do I feel THAT 😅

[arctic drift]

Dumb question here maybe
Is it possible to avoid having to re do all the avatar physbones, materials and that after modifying the mesh and adding a couple bones in blender?
I added this 4 bones and I thought that just by re-importing the model with the same name they'd be added to the hierarchy
I've done this before but I think I just modified the meshes, not the bones

[somber sequoia]

You should be able to just overwrite your FBX. Objects on bones that got changed or removed will probably disappear though. I do my best to not bury stuff in the armature hierarchy - I put my physbones separate under their own game object and then drag bones into the "Root transform" slot to help prevent this.

There's a limit though - sometimes you'll have to redo the rig setup, even switching it to generic and back to fully reset.

[arctic drift]

Do you do that from unity?

[vernal quarry]

i get this error when i try animating the material

[somber sequoia]

Yes that's all in Unity

[arctic drift]

Also this is because I decided to add a Tootless tail to my wicker hehe

[somber sequoia]

You'd have to explain what you are doing, without context I don't know what this means

[arctic drift]

That's what I was thinking, as I said I've modified meshes before and nothing weird happened bu as I modified the bones this time...

[somber sequoia]

Yeah you can get away with some level of bone changing before it's too much

[vernal quarry]

I'm trying to making an animation to make a material swap for an avatar, doing it the same way I do it for pc avatars. Click Record on an animation, then drag n drop the material. but it just gives me them errors instead

[somber sequoia]

are you editing a prefab or something? I've never seen this.

[vernal quarry]

nope

i tried doing it all from scratch, but it still gives me the same error

[sleek cove]

If a popup appeared and I clicked OK, but that kind of error showed up, what could be the problem? Could it also be a version issue? my sdk version is 3.8.1

[lament ivy]

should i merge rings to my body in blender to keep them in place? or is it good enough to generate verts, add deform for armature and weightpaint them to the bone they are on

[somber sequoia]

You have to weight paint them either way, but combining them means fewer mesh objects

[lament ivy]

okay, thanks

[hushed bough]

Can any artist make my some avatars for me and my friends pls

[somber sequoia]

Don't ask here, you'll get scammers in your DMs. Go to the VRC Traders discord to commission artists.
Link is in #1204490664637890580

[hushed bough]

Oke, thanks

[crystal whale]

How do I go about syncing a world drop between users?

[true flower]

So it turns out the reason the Hue Shift I was trying to fix wasn't working NOT because of the coding-- well, it was, I had to start from scratch with that-- but because the texture itself was wrong for that specific function. Changed to a different texture and Zip Zop Zam, works like a charm now.

Only took me two weeks to figure that out.

[arctic drift]

Forgot to ask but how do you usually overwrite your fbx?

[somber sequoia]

in Blender, file -> export -> export FBX, choose the existing file and save

[magic yarrow]

does anyone in here know how to make emission maps in Substance Painter? I've exhausted the internet for tutorials and i still can't find any helpful tutorials. I want to make the things i've already drawn glow, but i don't know how these silly anchor points work

[somber sequoia]

Are you trying to just make a map from an existing layer?

Basically are you trying to make a mask or map and if map, do you want it to be the same color as some other layer?

[magic yarrow]

yes

im trying to make a currently existing layer an emissive map

[somber sequoia]

Ok if you want to use anchors, put the anchor on the existing layer then use it in the new layer.

you can also just add an emissive property to that layer and later use that in your export template to create a new texture for just that