avatar-help

[prisma thunder]

OVR playspace drag is a must for any fbt user, but it's obviously not a thing on quest. I was wondering how I would go about adding something similar as a gesture toggle?

[hushed panther]

Gogo loco is the only thing that somewhat emulates it from what I have seen.

[somber sequoia]

iirc gogo loco has that as a feature

ah, too slow

[prisma thunder]

Mhm

[hushed panther]

It doesn't let you go side to side, but lets you go up and down

[prisma thunder]

I wrote that in my notes actually

I wanted to get hand velocity and translate that to the parameter

[fiery monolith]

anybody know how to fix dis?

[prisma thunder]

I also wanted to do something similar to standable but dumbed down a little so my partner can lie down and roll onto either side without needing to change anything in gogoloco

[somber sequoia]

see the console for more information?

sounds like a weird setup though

[hushed panther]

That might be kind of difficult for quest, good luck, (I'd honestly just deal with the gogoloco if I were in your situation)

[prisma thunder]

I figured I could just use a few contacts tbh

[fiery monolith]

nothin in the console

[prisma thunder]

To tell when you're looking to the left/right/up, and if you're on the ground

[somber sequoia]

do you have physbones within physbones or something weird?

[fiery monolith]

yeah pretty sure

[somber sequoia]

well you have too much of that then

[fiery monolith]

too much physbones?

[somber sequoia]

the error suggests you have too many things depending on other things, I'm guessing you have physbones within physbones but of course have no idea from here

[fiery monolith]

alr

[runic ether]

Hi there, I'm having some trouble with a texture. I have a 1024x1024 texture with pixel art. I'm using poiyomi toon shader and there seems to be some distortion when I open it in unity, even without the poiyomi shaders. Is there a way to fix this?

various discolorations in different areas on the left side

here's another example of the discoloration

[gray zinc]

How did I put roblox model into vrchat

[somber sequoia]

get model, then follow one of the many many tutorials on setting up a VRChat avatar.

[runic ether]

Ended up solving my issue, for those who may be struggling with the same thing, I went to my 2d texture and set compression from "normal quality" to "none"

[fiery monolith]

i fixed it it had smt to do with another avatar in my scene

[somber sequoia]

usually it's best to just disable any other ones

[fiery monolith]

i had to delete the avi from the scene for some reason

[chilly solar]

my feet are offset and sideways in game, why is this??? they arent in blender

[rigid tapir]

Wondering if i can bug someone for some help with my model? trying to fix the toggles on my radial menu and such

[somber sequoia]

you can always ask specific questions

[somber sequoia]

looks like your legs taper in rather than going straight down - have you tried making them straight?

[chilly solar]

let me adjust that and see if it helps

ive now noticed the hips on my avi are poking out? they arent meant to look like this and arent sticking out in blender

yeah im having quite the problem here, im trying to update the model and adjust the bones to see if it fixes my tilted feet issue, but i cant overwrite the fbx? im dragging and dropping in a new one and replacing the file like is normally do to update the model but it isnt doing anything. im very lost.

[somber sequoia]

bone roll should be 0 for most humanoid bones, so check that too

[chilly solar]

what does that mean?

[somber sequoia]

bone roll is a thing you can set in blender. it should be 0 for humanoid bones

fingers/toes it's useful sometimes to not be 0

[chilly solar]

how would i change that? im not sure what that means or anything

[somber sequoia]

the blender manual is quite good 🙂

edit armature, select a bone, look in the 'item' window of the 'n' popup

[chilly solar]

my bad this issue is just very new to me

[somber sequoia]

yep, just reminding people that it's easy to look stuff like this up

[covert radish]

I need some serious help with unity nothing I'm trying is working I can't get gogo to work at all. I emulate the gestures and it doesn't move 😭

[somber sequoia]

emulate the gestures?

[covert radish]

You go into play mode with the gesture menu I can't get any poses to work with it tho.

[covert radish]

Someone smarter than me please help...

[coarse palm]

hihi
I'm trying to make an avatar for someone and it looks fine on pc but when they use it on quest it breaks the arms

they is moving their arms up but they go foward

pls help

[wooden nova]

how would i use final ik for these tubes as ive never worked with it before

and they do have bones

[marsh wasp]

I have an animation i made (of a hand holding a sword). How can i make finger tracking lerp, or at least be limited by the constraints of the animation?

I have a sword that i want to hold but in vrc the fingers can go though the sword, so it looks bad. So I am trying to make it look like it is naturally grabbing the sword, instead of going through it.

[simple adder]

Well, I got Windows build support on his Unity installation, and it worked

[vague bear]

so i was uploading avatars the other day and when i got in game to see how they looked all my avatars i bought and had custom made when i joined vrc where all gone is this something with vrc i dont know about since i cant seem to retrieve them back

[simple adder]

Is it possible to increase Viseme sensitivity?

[iron dove]

Hiya I'm looking for full yakuza tattoos for layshusa base please help me find

I'm making a yakuza toggle

[night ember]

Manually technically

[ornate stump]

How you are sure that you did all the setup correctly?

[night ember]

Sync the parameter then make it local only

Then you didnt do it right

[ornate stump]

The issue could be from other parts. There are a lot to unpack.

[night ember]

Why are you even using a parameter drive for shoot

But why is it required

[ornate stump]

How long does the parameter stay true locally? If one frame, it couldn't be enough to sync.

[dapper fjord]

Im not answering pointless questions

[ornate stump]

Do the animator states also depend on other parameters?

For both driving layer and reacting layer.

How did you make the shooting layer?

How did you configure transition for shooting layer, that's the real question.

If you can't explain, then take screenshot.

Transition should mean the logic.

Better just screenshot.

Just screenshot what you had in that layer first.

The parameter drivers also in the same layer?

Which one contain shoot animation?

The logic I meant is how all the transition is connected each state.

Ok sure.

[night ember]

Person wanted help but is being unreasonably difficult

[ornate stump]

Did they just get banned?

Um no. They just deleted by themselves.

[night ember]

🤷‍♂️

Guess didnt want help

[coarse palm]

can anyone help with this??

[flint lark]

physbones has the "Is Animated" checkbox, but animating the collision radius doesn't work?

[timber wharf]

is animated is for bones animation, like tail wag

you cant animate most properties of physbone without disabling and enabling component back

or at all (tho in that case you can have two separate physbone components and alternate them)

[covert radish]

I'm struggling here what does this mean I tried looking it up I don't see any of the usual issues.

[timber wharf]

rename head bone or mesh into smth different

[winter mauve]

is there any visual difference between UE and ARKIT ?

[covert radish]

Trying rn. THANK YOU SO MUCH 😭

[gray zinc]

Did guys found any tutorial videos like roblox model turn blender etc

I got it model from roblox

[wary surge]

Does anyone know how to fix the playerchatbox being stuck inside of my avatars head? Forget increasing the height ingame >> Not everyone will want to do it

[novel saffron]

Been running into an FBX import error: the texture for the model works when exporting from FBX back into blender, and yet refuses to work in unity. just showing up as a solid white.

[balmy barn]

extract materials (ctrl+d for each or click fbx export material) or make some - then change the shaders they are using

add textures to material if its using any

[novel saffron]

Yea, the textures. I'm trying to figure out how to exactly get the textures in. as they seem to be in the .fbx, as I can export/import into blender no problem

[still shuttle]

Textures are usually just images, you probably have it saved somewhere on your computer, hence why it works in blender and not unity. Locate the texture you need and drag and drop it into your unity project window. Once the textures are in the unity project, you can drag them into their proper materials

[novel saffron]

o! I managed to get the texture and the roughness ripped out of the .blend file (scary to do so, as I don't like the file mess it makes)
But now: the roughness ain't working.
I've seen that you could just drag and drop it into the smoothness part, but: it doesn't show up here

[still shuttle]

I'm not sure, I don't usually mess with roughness. I also use poiomi toon

[novel saffron]

wait what is that?

[still shuttle]

It's a shader for PC

Works beautifully in my opinion, you just gotta mess with the settings to get it how you like

It's how I make my avis have pretty skin like this

[novel saffron]

I have... never heard of it!
Granted, I've been working in blender and blender only for many years now so

[ornate stump]

In Standard shader, smoothness map is packed into alpha channel of metallic map.

[novel saffron]

god there is so much more to learn than I thought what,,

I think I got poiomi installed on my thing (is it poiyomi?)

I am... very new to all this stuff

Just discovered that the armatures didn't get sent to unity either :arby

[wary surge]

This is making me flip out

xD

[surreal mist]

i added all the textures and this happens to the face eyes and body does anybody know if theres anyway to fix this

[desert elk]

"this"?

always assume people don't know what your avatar is supposed to look like, and explain "this"

[compact night]

When i try to upload my avatar with unity it gives me this error

[primal folio]

dose anyone know how to fix fingers or like hand (its on both)

[ashen hinge]

I'm having a hard time getting the hair to move (the phys bone component doesn't seem to be working)

[balmy barn]

1 bone, add endpoint

since you have a radius it will show up after

[ashen hinge]

Thanks that seems to have done something

[shy sierra]

I'm in the iOS Beta so want to have a fallback version of my avatar so I at least appear at the correct hight in VRC but the button for setting the avatar as a fallback never appears, are there any suggestions on how to fix this?
I have the Blendshape Optimizer from VRCFury on the avatar to help reduce the file size to 5.02 MB on Android and 5.04 MB on iOS.

[austere bay]

anyone know of any decimation tools outside of the ones blender provides? I've decimated my assets as much as possible and my avatar is still very unoptimised </3

[dapper fjord]

No, YOU in particular were asking worthless questions.

[desert elk]

https://github.com/teamneoneko/Unofficial-Tuxedo-Blender-Plugin/

i use this sometimes

[dapper fjord]

Ftr, it was nothing, i did everything correctly. It was just vr-slop being vr-slop. I had to Re-make, the exact same setup I had going, by hand. Suddenly it wants to work.

[marsh inlet]

I’m trying to take the wings from one avatar and put them on a separate avatar with all of the associated animations. Everything looked good until I started bringing over the animations. When I preview them with the new model, most of the bones seem to be set to 0,0,0 somehow while the wings animate properly. Does anyone have any ideas how I could get the animations to only affect the wings and nothing else?

[craggy fox]

i feel like ive done this correctly and made sure there is no jaw bone but for some reason the mouth itself on the model doesnt move, its like it creates a second mouth?

idk how to explain it, any tips?

this is my first ever model rig btw

[desert elk]

is the Body mesh the only mesh that has visemes?
do the shapekeys work correctly in blender?

[craggy fox]

blender is fine, im pretty sure body is the only one from what i can see

[desert elk]

can you post a screenshot?

of what do you mean by "second mouth"?

[craggy fox]

when i speak in vrchat the mouth clearly moves, but it doesnt really open on the model like i want it to

im having a difficult time explaining it

like so

even ingame aswell

the part underneeth is the mouth.oo

[shy sierra]

Anyone else having issues generating imposters?

[balmy barn]

some of mine never worked

nothing special on them either, dont use vrcfury/modular/whatever no constraints

I just use some other av instead set as fallback then overwrite it extremely rare i meet someone who see's that

[nova dust]

I cant change to android avatar

[desert elk]

download android build support

[somber sequoia]

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/setting-up-unity-for-creating-quest-content/

[hexed ore]

Hii ! Im new here so sorry if its the wrong channel to ask... but im having some difficulties/errors while uploading an avatar, is there someone who has expertise in this and is willing to help me out?

[desert elk]

screenshot the top 2-3 errors

and send the screenshot here

[hexed ore]

Theyre all pretty much like this. Uploaded the avatar for windows already, now wanted to upload for quest. I have not added the poiyomi in the project

(Also this is my first time doing this so i don't know much about it just yet)

[somber sequoia]

they meant errors as in the console. But yeah, you can't use those shaders on a quest avatar.

[hexed ore]

Oh oops hold on 🙈 And yeah thats why i did not add those in the project, so i dont know how they got in there? It was a new project

[desert elk]

Quest can only use a couple of shaders

[somber sequoia]

those are on the avatar itself, assuming you imported the avatar project

[desert elk]

was the avatar specifically for quest? if it wasn't that would be an issue with the shaders

[hexed ore]

Ah really? Well i had to add the Poiyomi file myself in the avatar project, so thats why i thought the avatar itself didnt have it

Not specifically for quest no, but could use both pc and quest

[somber sequoia]

doesn't matter either way, it can be in the project just fine

the problem is the avatar can't use that if it's for quest.

[hexed ore]

Is there a way to remove it out then? 🥹

[somber sequoia]

you will have to replace each of the materials currently used with one using a compatible shader.

(there are many tutorials on this subject)

(no, I don't have a link to one, check pins in the various quest channels though)

[hexed ore]

Yeah that does sound like hocus pocus to me so I'd love to watch a tutorial 🤣 Ill go look for them

Thanks!

[still shuttle]

Im making an eyepoke contact but I wanna make it to where when the finger gets closer to the eye, it slowly closes. instead of instantly closing when the eye is touched. How would I go about doing this? Is it as simple as switching the contact setting from constant to proximity?

[balmy barn]

animation + motion time (float) use proximity , blendtree exsample ( wich i had some very wierd issues with using floats in so usually those ends up in their own layer )

[fierce thunder]

how to make particle systems emit light?

[still shuttle]

Can I see what your logic for that looks like?

and possibly the animation

[distant nimbus]

I have two radicals to change colors of my fans considering I had too many materials to fit into one animation comfortably. i tested them out, and they both worked completely fine. i went back and decided to make a toggle to turn them on/off. now, my first fan radical doesn't respond??

[somber sequoia]

for mine the animation just runs a blendshape. I do the blendtree method (since I use them for most things anyway), it's really just blending between an "off" animation and an "on" one, using the proximity parameter.
This one is for a "wince" gesture if my ears are grabbed and pulled. It's got 3 animation slots because I wanted it to only happen when pulled more than a lower threshold.
Adapt for whatever you want it to do.

(this is inside a much larger direct blend tree, but could certainly be its own layer if you prefer)

[still shuttle]

this worked beautifully thank you so much omg

[somber sequoia]

excellent 🙂

[balmy barn]

how mine usually end up, had 3 annoying issues with blendtree doing the same thing

[inland seal]

How do people make straight lines along diagonal and curved lines?

[desert elk]

by drawing textures (?) I'm not sure what else could this screenshot refer to

[inland seal]

Like the lines are very straight without any mistakes

[somber sequoia]

is that an edge of the mesh itself? It's easy to color just faces

[desert elk]

probably just very carefully drawn textures

or the mesh

bring made that way

[inland seal]

Its an edge of an ear

[somber sequoia]

not really what I meant

if you look at the wireframe of the mesh itself, does that paint line trace an edge actually on the mesh

I wouldn't be surprised if it does

[inland seal]

Uh no?

[fierce thunder]

how to make particle systems emit light?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not really sure how that pic relates to the previous, but it was just a guess

[somber sequoia]

use a shader with emission, unless you actually require an actual light, which you really should not.

[inland seal]

Is it because theyre just too precise?

drawing it

[somber sequoia]

I don't know what you are asking?

[fierce thunder]

is there a quest supported shader that emits light?

thats my main goal

to emit light on quest

[balmy barn]

'light' emission

[somber sequoia]

I don't know offhand but you can look at the VRChat docs on what shaders are available and try them out

[fierce thunder]

light doesnt seem to work unless im doing something wrong

[inland seal]

What you cant understand :c

[somber sequoia]

anything about that question. I don't know what "they" is, at the least.

[inland seal]

Based on the picture I sent, by "they" I mean the texture artist

[balmy barn]

you need the newer sdk to try the quest with way more shader option (havnt bothered with it yet) - in some world they look like they are glowing - never ever use a light source

[inland seal]

Are they just precise with drawing the line on ear part?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not the artist so I have no idea

also it could be that line is actually straight on the UV map

it could be they used a path in a program like substance painter

[glacial vessel]

is the see through normal

[somber sequoia]

maybe? A few settings could cause that

it's not overly relevant if you intend to put this into Unity anyway

[glacial vessel]

alr

i assume the creator jus did tht for more visibility

also wsp kazin

[somber sequoia]

wsp?

[desert elk]

what's up would be my guess

[somber sequoia]

oh. huh.

[glacial vessel]

lmao

[fluid holly]

Hi everyone ! Can someone explain why the toggle doesn't show in game but show when i use gesture manager pls ?

[desert elk]

are you sure you're wearing the same avatar and on the same platform as the upload?

[fluid holly]

Yes

[balmy barn]

animator is the mesh 'none' , will have issues trying to say things to a mesh not set

reason why i use a empty skeleton for generics

[fluid holly]

so what should i do ? im a noob i just started today lmao

[balmy barn]

check root of avatar - animator with 'none (avatar) ' will have issues

[fluid holly]

i cant select my avatar :/ @balmy barn

like nothing is showing

[austere bay]

you need to click on the fbx then under rig set it to humanoid

I'm pretty sure you need a humanoid rig

[somber sequoia]

you don't, but if you don't have one then you have to do all the locomotion animation

[desert elk]

that's not a human

[somber sequoia]

it's reasonable in this case to not

[desert elk]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

I don't imagine the average piano has any actual locomotion...

[austere bay]

you need something in the avatar section though, how do you get that if it's not humanoid? sorry if I'm being silly I'm still learning myself and just curious :)

also pls ignore the name of my fbx

[fluid holly]

lmao

[somber sequoia]

yeah you may have to add that manually, but many existing avatars are not humanoid.

[fluid holly]

my 3d model is from blender and look like that ... How can i "convert" this to avatar so i can select it in animator ?

[austere bay]

you could try this since it seems to have an armature

it might be humanoid

otherwise add an animator component to the same place you added the sdk

[fluid holly]

i dont think its an humanoid armature look

its like all the piano keys and moving part of the piano

[summer lodge]

it doesn't let me sign in or put the code in anywhere in unity, any help?

[somber sequoia]

yeah this isn't humanoid

[fluid holly]

yes sadly :/

[somber sequoia]

it's not really a problem though

[fluid holly]

i mean its a problem for me bc im a beginner lmao

[somber sequoia]

no? you don't need it to be humanoid despite what some others seem to be saying

[fluid holly]

yes but i still cant select my 3d object in the avatar setting from animator

[balmy barn]

my 'empty' skeleton wich i use on generic - drop anything in it , its now 'humanoid' and fx/ect will behave

otherwise making it in blender so its more like this - generic will now have something to point avatar slot to

[raw saddle]

might be a silly question but: have you removed body parts that are always covered by clothes?

[fluid holly]

how do u make that empy skeleton ?

[austere bay]

theres no part of my avatars always covered with clothes...

[raw saddle]

well beans

[desert elk]

furry 🫵
(this is all joking, i'm nice, trust me)

[raw saddle]

you might need to sacrifice some toggles (unless you have no toggles and are just a creature which i can get behind)

[wicked valley]

So, i upload an avatar to quest, it works fine, but when i upload to pc, it shows up as quest only and security checks failed, anyone know why? (Ping reply me please)

[austere bay]

she's just very detailed </3

but I'll probably split it into different avatars

[raw saddle]

ah.

[austere bay]

I got it from 900k to 450k so far

[raw saddle]

ouch

[desert elk]

did you set the blueprint id to be the same for both versions?

[raw saddle]

yeah mere decimating isn't gonna help with that, you're gonna have to turn some of these meshes into flat textures

[desert elk]

and as i rule of thumb you should upload pc version first

[raw saddle]

i don't super know how baking works in blender but that's what you gotta do

[austere bay]

I've gotta figure out the weightpainting first, I just wanted to get all the decimation done before that

[wicked valley]

yeah, its the exact same model, same textures and everything
ive changed nothing but the platform

[austere bay]

could you show the sdk and error logs?

[spark walrus]

cann someone help me out real quick to ffigure out how to put some tattoos i bought on an avatar

this is how they came idk where it goes

[austere bay]

click on that black texture and turn on alpha transparency or whatever it's called

it's a little tick box

[wicked valley]

theres no errors, its an in game thing

[spark walrus]

gotcha what now

[austere bay]

are you sure? after the build if it's not uploading there will usually be errors in the log, they might not come up as popups

[austere bay]

I'd put it on as a decal if you wanna put it on quickly

[spark walrus]

is the other 2 for emmisions?

[austere bay]

on the body material, if it's poiyomi you just gotta find the decal section

[wicked valley]

nothing

[austere bay]

one is a normal map so put that on the normal map bit, the other you can put on emissions if you want :)

just depends what look you're going for

[wicked valley]

it uploaded fine earlier, went to add something and now its not uploading to pc

[austere bay]

that's really weird there should be at least something there, if you clear the blueprint will it upload on it's own seperately?

[spark walrus]

I put it on for a decal but it doesnt appear

[austere bay]

what's it look like in the material settings?

[distant nimbus]

Soo i have my fans placed in the right spot, and connected to the wrists in my armature, but they appear above my head in game??

[spark walrus]

like on the inspector?

[austere bay]

I think you need to add a parent constraint to the fan root, idk though I haven't done anything like that in a while </3

[austere bay]

like on the material, where you've placed the decal

could you show that?

[wicked valley]

only thing i can think of is try again in a different project

[spark walrus]

like this?

[austere bay]

turn the alpha up :)

[distant nimbus]

yeaaahhh cuz this is what shes lookin like LOL

[spark walrus]

still nothing :(

[glacial vessel]

can anyone help my blender jus crashed, apparently wasnt saving, now when i try to open the older blend it crashes but wont on a version cats dont work on

[austere bay]

honestly just mess around with the material, it's the best way to learn and you'll figure it out eventually, there's only so much i can communicate through this yk

[austere bay]

what version of blender are you using that cats doesn't work on?

[glacial vessel]

newest

[somber sequoia]

get the right cats version

[austere bay]

also you can recover sessions under "file" in blender

[somber sequoia]

https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

[chilly solar]

ive changed some things about my avatar and want to update it, but it looks like this when imported into unity. its all messed up. i adjusted some of the bones to make the arms a little longer and fixed some leg bones, as well as remade the paws. to update it, i re exported the model and replaced the file in unity with the new version. ive done this quite a few times and never had an issue. i cant find anything online thats helping me. any ideas what i can do?

[somber sequoia]

(not that you need cats for much if you aren't doing MMD avatars)

[austere bay]

click on the fbx, go to rig, then configure and there should be options to enforce T-pose, that should work I think

but there may still be some scaling issues with your components (like phys bones)

[chilly solar]

it didnt, but when i see the model in that menu it look fine

[chilly solar]

how would i fix that?

[floral fable]

• Hayo does anyone here know how you would add an animation to Goloco flying? Like if you wanted to add a wing flapping animation to it?

[glacial vessel]

u saved me and @somber sequoia ty for cats

[somber sequoia]

GoGo drives most of it's stuff with the VRCEmote parameter. Per my notes, the flying values are as such:

          121 fly manual rotation
          122 fly radial auto
          123 fly raidal
          124 fly trigger
          255 reset

[glacial vessel]

wait how tf do i install it (v4,3)

[austere bay]

I've definitely had the issue before and managed to fix it, I'm just tryna see if I posted it anywhere for you :)

[somber sequoia]

So just key your animations to happen at the appropriate times. I've used to make a flying platform, and a hoverboard 🙂

[chilly solar]

ofc ofc i hope you can help D:

[somber sequoia]

(check those values - the creator tends to change them between versions)

[austere crown]

is 68k triangles good for a model? (assuming im trying to keep proformance good or medium

[somber sequoia]

that's still medium, so yeah

[austere crown]

whats the makimum for good?

[austere bay]

did you reset then enforce tpose? or just enforce tpose?

[austere crown]

maximum*

[somber sequoia]

details are on the vrchat docs site

[austere crown]

k

[glacial vessel]

how do i delete bones quickly

[somber sequoia]

look up "avatar performance rankings"

[chilly solar]

i just chose enforce t-pose

[somber sequoia]

armature edit mode, select bone, 'x'

[austere bay]

try resetting first

[austere bay]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system/

[chilly solar]

should i reset, apply, enforse tpose, apply again?

[austere bay]

yeah that should work

[chilly solar]

didnt work :c

[austere bay]

unfortunately idk how to fix it then :( it's a scaling issue, you might need to start over </3

sorry :((

[chilly solar]

the first time i put it into unity i exported with leaf bones, and then this problem started when i exported it and replaced it with leaf bones turned off. then i exported it a third time with them turned on and i was fine, and then a forth time with them on and now it just went back and wont fix

im so losttttt

[frigid glade]

When changing anything about the bones in blender and exporting over the fbx in unity it will break your avatar so you might need to put it back in the scene and copy everything over

[chilly solar]

how would i do that?

[frigid glade]

Just drag the fbx back into the scene. If you have any physbones and stuff that you want to copy over download pumpkins avatar tools and that will copy everything from your broken one to the fresh one

[distant nimbus]

i added a constraint to the root, and they both are continuing to appear above my head

[chilly solar]

i dont understand things without alot of detail so this doesnt make sense to me :c

[sour linden]

could someone help me optimize or fix this somehow..? I NEVER use unity

[frigid glade]

So you know your fbx model in your assets folder right?? Drag it and put it in your unity scene

[austere bay]

tbh I'd just add them in blender, I don't usually add things in unity sorry :(

[distant nimbus]

no worries : ) thanks anyways

[chilly solar]

but its already here D:

[glacial vessel]

pose or is there a actual armature edit?

[somber sequoia]

actual armature edit

[wicked valley]

i go to upload to pc and quest, it only uploads to pc then does this

[frigid glade]

I know but cuz you changed things about the bones, it’s made the model all broken. You said the model looks fine in the assets folder right??

[chilly solar]

mhm it does

should i make a new scene or delete the model from it first or something?

[frigid glade]

No no don’t delete anything yet

[distant nimbus]

i find it easier to upload both the pc and quest versions separately, then connecting them through blueprint ID. idk if youre willing to do it that way, but thats all ik : (

[frigid glade]

Just drag the fbx model back into the scene. You’re gonna make a fresh copy.

[chilly solar]

ohh i see, my kitty is in there now with the broken one

[frigid glade]

Okay good. Do you have any physbones and stuff you had on your avatar originally??

[chilly solar]

i had physbones but i deleted them trying to fix this so im gonna have to put them back anyway. i have lots of toggles tho

[glacial vessel]

im just seeing disolve

nvm i got it, ty

[distant nimbus]

Soo i have my fans placed in the right spot, and connected to the wrists in my armature, but they appear above my head in game?? Ive added a parent constraint to the fan root, and it still appears this way.

[frigid glade]

Okay that’s fine. All you will have to do now is add the vrc avatar descriptor back to the fresh copy. Then put your menu and your parameters back into your model.

You don’t need to worry about rigging or anything because you exported it over the same model so that should all be the same

[chilly solar]

what do you mean put the menu and paramaters back, do i need to make new ones or how would i put the old ones on my new fella

[frigid glade]

You said you had toggles and stuff yeah??

[chilly solar]

mhm i do

[wicked valley]

thats what i have to do

[chilly solar]

so i gotta take my animator controller and drag it back here

in the controller thing

[glacial vessel]

@somber sequoia this is happening with unofficial cats

[frigid glade]

Once you’ve added the avatar descriptor, scroll down to playable layers I think it is and drag in where it says menu and parameters

[somber sequoia]

I don't use cats, I can't help you here.

[desert elk]

did you make sure you got the correct version for your blender?

https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

[chilly solar]

okay and i can delete the old one now? the broken model?

[frigid glade]

Don’t delete it just in case you need it. Just turn the model off in the top left corner

[glacial vessel]

i fixed the cats

[desert elk]

okay

good

[glacial vessel]

broski

[desert elk]

?

[glacial vessel]

now my head isnt moving with neck

[desert elk]

is it parented properly

?

[distant nimbus]

bump

[glacial vessel]

lemme check

[distant nimbus]

yall ive been tryna get help for an hour now while tweaking with google tips, PuhLEASE

[wooden nova]

how would i use final ik for these tubes as ive never worked with it before and they do have bones

[somber sequoia]

what do you want it to do?

[wooden nova]

so the tubes are parented to the upper leg and i want them to move with the lower legs

[somber sequoia]

huh I wouldn't have thought of using FinalIK for that

[wooden nova]

yea idk what else to use for it

that would work for this kind of thing

[somber sequoia]

just weight painting doesn't do it?

[wooden nova]

no i tried it with another avatar but that failed it moved in segments

[somber sequoia]

better weight paint? 🙂

[wooden nova]

an not as one whole thing

[somber sequoia]

I mean, not saying it'd be easy at all

[wooden nova]

i tried all different kinds it just looked weird

tried segments then smoothing them out it didnt work well

would final ik work though

[somber sequoia]

I'm not really sure what you'd do with it here

[unreal geyser]

how do I fix these?

[desert elk]

go where you set the rig to humanoid (click the fbx and press rig) and select configure

map the correct bones into the correct slots

if you're missing bones, you will need to use blender to add them

[unreal geyser]

thank you

[eternal dew]

what does this mean

[unreal geyser]

im not missing any bones everything is green except for the optional bones but everything is fine

[desert elk]

optional in unity ≠ optional in vrchat

does everything work now? or are you still getting errors?

[unreal geyser]

nope the same errors are still there.

[desert elk]

what bones are you missing?

you can check #avatar-rigging pinned posts for more info about requirements

[unreal geyser]

alright

[unreal geyser]

like which ones are the grey ones?

[desert elk]

I guess

[unreal geyser]

the upper chest, jaw, and the toes and thats it

[desert elk]

try enforcing tpose

or switching to generic, applying and switching back to humanoid

[unreal geyser]

ok

when I switched it to generic the errors go away

but when I switch it back to humanoid the errors come back

[desert elk]

my guess would be, you'd need to edit the idle animation

I'd assume so

[unreal geyser]

do I just upload it as generic or do I keep trying humanoid?

[desert elk]

if you upload it as generic it will not play any of the VRChat animations

[faint bridge]

does anyone knows how to rig clothes in unity, there is a way i've seen my friends do it without blender, they were gatekeepin' it

[somber meadow]

Rigging isn't possible but applying clothes is possible (if the clothes are made for the avatar) by using tools like VRCFury

[faint bridge]

yeah with VRFury

[somber meadow]

https://vrcfury.com/tutorials/linking-clothes

[deft prism]

how would I combine/merge 2 FX layers

[desert elk]

with avatars 3.0 manager

you can get it in vcc

[faint bridge]

thx mate

[deft prism]

I wanna combine th gogofxbeyond and my avatars FX layer without remaking it entirely

[austere bay]

A load of my blend shapes are working fine in blender but aren't working in unity, anyone know what can cause this?

[desert elk]

I said

[desert elk]

with avatars 3.0 manager

you can get it in vcc

then go vrclabs > avatars 3.0 and merge it from there

[desert elk]

did you apply all modifiers?

[deft prism]

oh!

[austere bay]

yep, i've just applied all transforms and gonna try again

[faint bridge]

mate i did everything in the link thingy

[austere bay]

it's still not working T-T

they're also all sort of in their blended state

[faint bridge]

@austere bayhaha i love your name

[somber meadow]

Screenshot the armature link component

[faint bridge]

i'm not good with unity that much

[somber meadow]

Looks like the asset isn't made for the avatar

[faint bridge]

danm nothing can match it

thx for the help anyway fam

[desert elk]

you can either attach it manually (maybe) in unity or in blender

[faint bridge]

i'm unsing unity, blender is dookie

[desert elk]

https://youtu.be/0wxpUsqxpAY?si=JyiqGSbmUNxBXPQQ

try this

could work, but I can't guarantee

[faint bridge]

i believe pinky

[austere bay]

some of my shapekeys work, i've got 0 modifiers on other than armature and all transforms have been applied T-T

[deft prism]

for the new Go/StandType parameter for GogoLoco 1.8.6u, do I need to make default more than 0? also do I need to make it save or sync or is 0 off off fine

[somber meadow]

Are the blendshapes there in the list in Unity?

[austere bay]

yeah they just don't do anything

and it's like the blend shapes are set to 1

[somber meadow]

Then modifiers aren't to be worried about

what Blender version are you using

[austere bay]

4.4.3

[half stirrup]

could anyone help with this

im trying to get this hair to match the fluff on my model but its not working at all rip

trying to get these to match

idk what im doing

[somber meadow]

is it not possible to just use the same material?

it's best to minimize on unique materials if you can anyway

[half stirrup]

ahh okay

im just not sure what to do because without the same material, it looks like this

and its wonky in game with specific lighting, its completely off color and it doesnt look good

this is using standard shader, with the albedo being the same color as the fluff (that i want) but its still the wrong color

this feels impossible to fix

[faint bridge]

wow now it's inside my body

https://tenor.com/view/wanna-break-from-ads-xqc-gif-27101951

[tranquil niche]

Hey all! i have a question regarding animation and animator in unity for my vrchat avitar, essentially i have an avi that can wear sneakers, and so to save on performance, i used blendshapes to hide the feet when she's wearing them, however, my avi can also reach down and grab the shoe off the foot to hold it in hand, and when I do that, the feet are still hidden, so, i went back into the animation and made sure that the grabbed animation sets the blendshapes for toes and feet to zero however i'm assuming this makes a weird conflict because having the shoe toggled in the gesture menu also makes sure the blendshapes for the toes and feet are set to 100, so how would i make sure that one animation overwrites the other? Would I use weights?

[balmy plover]

really quick question: i just got the kimiko head, i dont like the big lips. theres a shapekey for small lips. cool. i want the 100% turned on smaller lips shapekey to be my basis. i forgot to do it in blender. what is the unity version of blender's "apply shapekey as basis"? *if there is one

[balmy plover]

easiest fix i can think of: make a option in your menu to where the "shoe grabbing" mechanic can be turned on or off. if the mechanic is turned on, then the foot shrink shapekey is disabled. if the mechanic is turned off, then the foot shrinks inside the shoe

[queen nimbus]

pls help. my imposter is naked and idk why.

[austere bay]

anyone know how i can fix this mesh?

[balmy plover]

you applied all the maps that came with the asset? (normals, metallics, etc)

[austere bay]

the look of the material isn't what I'm worried about, sorry i should have specified. some of the mesh seems to be missing or clipping meaning you can see the skin on the other side

it's set to opaque atm so the material doesn't really matter

you can see a bit better if i put a black material

[balmy plover]

hm. id make sure it wasnt a problem on your end first by either sculpting the bra piece to be bigger or the boobs to be smaller, make sure its not just a common clip

sometimes even when an asset says "sculpted/fitted to 'suchandsuch base'", there can still be minor clipping as base creators update the bases all the time to be "better"

[austere bay]

I sculpted it and everything in blender and it's completely fine

the second screenshot is how it looks in blender

I've tested the weights, applied all modifiers

[balmy plover]

then id think its a cull/shader/material issue

try setting your shaders to poiyomi and turning backface culling off in your rendering tab, that might fix it

[austere bay]

already done that T-T

every pic of unity thats what the settings are

[balmy plover]

huh.. you made sure and applied transforms before exporting in blender?

[austere bay]

it's definitely not a material issue, doesn't matter what mat I use, it's the mesh but I'm not sure how to fix it. I think unity is trying to optimise it or something, and yeah transforms are all applied

[balmy plover]

im really not sure then, sorry

[austere bay]

i fixed it, just needed to triangulate faces while exporting :))

[unreal geyser]

anyone know how to fix this I already tried rigging everything it mentions but these errors are still there

[glacial vessel]

uh guys my skinny keys shapekey randomly stopped working

the legs are permanantly monsterous

[small stone]

Is anyone available to hop into a call with me ? I'm having a sudden mysterious issue where I cannot upload my avatar due to it throwing a "Make sure you're using a validated VRchat account" error. However, I have a validated VR chat, I'm signed into it through SDK, my account is active and updated, and I've been able to upload avatars in the past with no issue.

[glacial vessel]

if nothing else works get someone to upload it for u

[prisma sedge]

Try disconnecting the blueprint ID if you havent already

[small stone]

I did already bwomp

thank you for the suggestion though

[glacial vessel]

can nayone help

my head

isnt connected

to the neck

[marsh inlet]

Bumping this

I’m wondering if I’m missing some sort of default pose or something

[marsh wasp]

what avi?

[small stone]

rot by LPB

[winter locust]

ive uploaded 5 models already, now getting this message, help?

[arctic ginkgo]

does anyone know if it's possible to use the "mask" mode for detail blending on toon standard without having a detail texture?

right now doing this makes the entire material black, i guess the lack of a detail texture replaces it with a black color

[chilly solar]

Is it possible to make toggles on an avatar that are interactive? I want to make glowsticks with audiolink for my avatar and I know I can just make them be in my hand and stuck there, but is there a way to make it so I can drop them and pick them back up?

[arctic ginkgo]

replacing it with a transparent texture doesn't seem to work either since it doesn't take the alpha channel into account (that requires the alpha blended blend mode, which means you can't use a mask)

the issue this is causing for me is that i can't mask detail normals without having a detail texture, even though all i want is the detail normals

[arctic ginkgo]

yes if you want them to just freeze in place use a parent constraint and toggle the "freeze to world" option

if you want them to have physics when you let go that is more difficult but possible using a variety of methods

if you want something quest compatible your best option is to use a particle system. If not for the entire glowstick at least for world collision detection

you could also have fake physics where it just animates a position constraint's weight increasing and the position constraint has only the Y axis frozen and a "floor" object as the source

you can make a basic floor by just adding an object to your avatar, but this will jump with you. If you want an accurate floor position to the world you need to use contacts, constraints, and some animator logic with some of the default parameters to figure out where the floor is

if you want a more simplified version of this you could just have it use a parent constraint with "freeze to world" enabled and then when "grounded" is false it waits for it to be true again and then updates the position by toggling freeze to world on and off.

that doesn't account for if you are falling below the original floor height (jumping off of something tall), or if you are using colliders to make your avatar fly

which is usually what i use the contacts for. They can help with detecting if you are below the previous floor, which means that you just jumped off of something from a height

but you probably don't need to update it that frequently. Unless you are jumping off of a height while you let go of the glowstick it won't cause a problem

idk there's a lot of ways you can go about it and account for many scenarios

[frail tiger]

gonna ask here bc i dont really know where else to ask and kinda stumpted ive been messing with models for a bit editing or making my own and i ran into this problem a bit ago where in unity my avi boob_root physbones just dont work at all for some reason and honestly idk what i did wrong and i kinda dont wanna restart a whole new avi project over this mistake i made somewhere bc i spent days working on it and was wondering if any1 knew where i can look or how i can get the Boob_root bones to work again (also everything else works just the boob_root doesnt)

[glacial vessel]

can i ask for name suggestions here?

[arctic ginkgo]

probably your multi-child type

try setting it to "average"

[pallid rapids]

Not sure what this error is or what to do with it. Imported from blender after optimizing the avi

[arctic ginkgo]

you have non-manifold geometry somewhere, it deleted 2 of your polygons, which may or may not be an issue

depends on what it deleted

[frail tiger]

like multi-child for constraints i dont have any constraints on this avi just physbones and animator and descriptor put onto it

[glacial vessel]

can anyone help me my head isnt connected to the body

[arctic ginkgo]

no, look on your physbone component. It will have something that says "multi child type"

[glacial vessel]

@arctic ginkgo ?

[arctic ginkgo]

set this to "average"

[arctic ginkgo]

i'm not sure what you mean that it isn't "connected". Connected in what sense?

[frail tiger]

o yeah that fixed it thankyou ive never ran into this issue before and have been spending alot of hours trying to figure this out i thought this whole time i did somthing wrong in blender

[glacial vessel]

when i move the neck the hair & head doesnt move, the glasses do tho

[arctic ginkgo]

is your head weightpainted to your armature?

[glacial vessel]

i believe so, data transfer right?

[arctic ginkgo]

the reason this exists is so that you can use one physbone component for multiple chains of bones without having the root bone move (usually used for hair, skirts, etc)

"Average" is for when you want the root to follow the motion and direction of multiple chains (usually used for boobs)
"First" is usually used for single chains of bones, like tails

[arctic ginkgo]

are you kitbashing?

[glacial vessel]

idk what that is so no

[frail tiger]

oh that actually makes sense im honestly suprised i havent ran into the issue more then tbh .lol

[arctic ginkgo]

how are you making your avatar?

[glacial vessel]

blender

[arctic ginkgo]

from scratch?

[frail tiger]

like did you buy abunch of clothing assests and a head and body to put all together

[glacial vessel]

oh yes

it was working before

and now it isnt

the hair is connected to the hair bone

head bone*

but the head isnt

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah, kitbashing is when you take parts from other models and piece them together into one

[glacial vessel]

wait

so i move the head bone

hair and head moves

[arctic ginkgo]

is this happening in blender or in unity?

[glacial vessel]

blender

[glacial vessel]

and my second pair of glasses

and if i move neck bone

[arctic ginkgo]

is your head a different mesh from the body?

[glacial vessel]

yeah

[arctic ginkgo]

is the head parented to the armature?

[glacial vessel]

yes

[arctic ginkgo]

does it have the armature modifier?

[arctic ginkgo]

and is the correct armature in the armature slot on the modifier?

[glacial vessel]

yes

[arctic ginkgo]

is the weight painting correct for your vertex groups on the head?

[glacial vessel]

these?

[arctic ginkgo]

yes

[glacial vessel]

yes

i can redo it aswell

[arctic ginkgo]

so when you move the head bone, the head does not move with it?

[glacial vessel]

when i move the neck

only the bat glasses move with it

[arctic ginkgo]

okay, but what happens when you move the head bone?

[glacial vessel]

i moved it up to show but everything on the head moves

[arctic ginkgo]

is your head bone parented to your neck bone?

[glacial vessel]

how do i see that

[arctic ginkgo]

select the armature and go into edit mode

then select the head bone, and shift+click to select the neck bone as the active selection

then press ctrl+p and choose "keep offset"

[glacial vessel]

does this show u

[arctic ginkgo]

yes that also shows you

[arctic ginkgo]

this will just ensure the position won't be affected in case the tail of the neck does not align exactly with the head of the head bone

[glacial vessel]

ah

[arctic ginkgo]

but yeah it looks like it isn't parented

[arctic ginkgo]

so follow these steps

[arctic ginkgo]

oh that would mean they are already parented or can't be parented for another reason. Are the two bones in the same armature?

[glacial vessel]

oh wait

i didnt click neck first

its parented but stull dont work

the head moves the neck

the neck doesnt move the head

[arctic ginkgo]

you need to click the head first, then the neck

[glacial vessel]

OH

[arctic ginkgo]

the neck should be the active selection (in the lighter color)

[glacial vessel]

alr that fixed it tysm

wait

the chest bone doesnt move the neck

is that normal

[arctic ginkgo]

no, you need to do the same thing to the neck

since you accidentally reparented it

so select the neck, then the chest

[glacial vessel]

oh shit

the WHOLE armature is fucked

[onyx owl]

Hey yall, would u mind helping test out an avi?

[tidal silo]

So, I'm having a little trouble with an avatar, the animations used to trigger them display the toggles taking place as they should, but when I enter gesture manager the toggles don't work at all.

[glacial vessel]

i just cant weight paint for some reason..

please help

subtract or add

[mild solar]

the origin in unity (where the green blue red arrows show when selecting avatar name) is at the waist but origin in blender is at the feet

how do i fix it please

when i select armature the center is at the feet

[arctic ginkgo]

top left of the scene window, click where it says "center", it will change to "pivot"

[winter socket]

im trying to make my first avatar by importing an existing 3d model, how do i give it the bones?

[somber sequoia]

you have to create an armature and in it, create the bones. There are pins in #avatar-rigging that show what it should look like

[viscid oriole]

So new to the VR chat world & I’m trying to upload an avatar I got. But every time I load unity & the companion I get an error & SDK doesn’t show up to log in or upload.

I even uninstalled and reinstalled everything, and I still have the same problem.

[covert radish]

Hey so got a weird issue. My blend shapes don't appear in Unity on the side BUT, I can assign them for talking and stuff, really weird since I have 0 extra modifiers. Help?

[timber wharf]

did you expand blendshapes section? its collapsed by default. is it the same mesh you have selected as face (for visemes) as youre trying to modify manually?

[frigid glade]

What kind of toggles are they and what type of parameters are you using for them??

[covert radish]

Yeah it's not there found a work around, could you use blend shapes to make a hand gesture for VRCFURY tho? Instead of the animations console in the same way you'd add face expressions?

[desert elk]

i don't think that would work

[covert radish]

Damn 🥲 alright

[frigid glade]

Yeah no cuz you need to have an animation it can switch to in the controller menu. Though I think if you make a blendshape with a gesture and then make an animation with that blendshape enabled that could work I think

No yeah it would because that’s just how you make facial expressions, it’s essentially the same thing but with your hands

[sleek atlas]

Anyone on latest sdk (tested on 3.7.5 and 3.7.0 as well), do you have this as well? Changes to viseme blendshapes don't propagate or even count as changes on prefabs for me.

After restarting unity it reset all of them back as well (I did save, both in the prefab screen and before closing)

I feel like the sdk is just broken. Other changes to things like the eyelid blendshapes do work

[timid kite]

why does my friends fbx weigh 130 mb? just the fbx. he does have a lot of stuff but so do i and mine is 40 mb. we have about the same amount of triangles

[sleek atlas]

Embeded textures, blendshapes, vertex colours, bones

Most likely embedded textures

[gentle goblet]

Um so I gave my avatar a new tongue and it works well, but idk how to fix this issue when it is "hidden" without removing the physbones entirely >~>

[still shuttle]

Toggle the physbone component off with the off animation of the tongue

You may have to make sure "is animated" is checked on the physbone component for it to work

[gentle goblet]

Thank you ♡

~> So I did that and since I hide the tongue with a blendshape for some reason it just doesn't size up, the physbone animator worked but somehow broke the blendshape >~>

[clear cobalt]

Hello first time here and i was wondering if anyone has delt with this type of issue with an avatar before

[raw saddle]

where do you have the avatar stored

[clear cobalt]

in a file separated in documents but i have 5 more avatars in different files that didnt do the same as this one

[raw saddle]

open it in file explorer, click the top bar, copy everything, and paste it here

[clear cobalt]

ok

[clear cobalt]

C:\Users\Mondo2\Documents\VRChat avatars\Bennyhondo

[raw saddle]

hm

then there shouldn't be any issue, unless there's some random resource file with a weird character

[clear cobalt]

i looked up some vids and some are saying to uncheck the VRC SDK stuff since this Avatar may be old im guessing

[clear cobalt]

thanks for the help i really do appreciate it

[still shuttle]

I would just make the tongue it's own mesh then

[slim sail]

does anyone have an answer how to fix this?

ive been looking everywhere and i cant find anything to fix it

[timber wharf]

vrcfury has (an attempt of) autofix. otherwise read https://vrc.school/docs/Unity-Animations/Write-Defaults/
https://vrcfury.com/technical/wd/

[raw saddle]

-# oh goodness that vrcfury article
-# no wonder i was having trouble with animations

[solid arrow]

hands are backward. only in vr mode. only with this specific model. any help please

[ashen tinsel]

Anyone know how to get rid of Frenni's original hair? I have another hair for her and am trying to remove the original hair to replace it. In shorter words, making her bald

[fierce thunder]

there is a automatic way to fix it and a manual way

for the automatic way just download vrcfury and add a fix write default component (make sure you select your avatar then add the vrcfury component)

for the manual way you have to set every single animation in your controller FX to write defaults either ON or OFF

[desert elk]

in Blender, selelct the hair mesh and delete

[desert elk]

avatars 3.0 manager

can do this tpp

too

[fierce thunder]

i never used avatars 3.0 manager so i wouldnt know

[desert elk]

switch write defaults on/off

just saying

[fierce thunder]

nothing wrong with trying to help

[ashen tinsel]

Couldn't find the hair mesh. It all seems grouped together

[desert elk]

you can go to edit mode

and select the hair

L key may be useful

[ashen tinsel]

Alright

Thank you 🙏🏽

[fierce thunder]

how do i make particles emit light? im trying to make a flashlight for quest

[desert elk]

quest = no light
the most light-like thing you can get on quest are emissions

[fierce thunder]

how do i make emissions?

[slim sail]

thank u sm

[desert elk]

i don't think the particle shaders have emissions, but Standard Lite does if that's something you can use

[fierce thunder]

couldnt i just put the standart lite material on a particle?

[desert elk]

you can

but idk how your particles look

so idk if you can or not

[fierce thunder]

there is a emission toggle on standart lite materials but it seems like it doesnt really work?

it makes it bright but it doesnt emit light

[desert elk]

yeah

that's what it does

that's the closest thing you can get to light on quest

because you can't have light light on quest

you can only have emissions

[fierce thunder]

i have an avatar that emits light on quest

[desert elk]

did you upload it yourself or is it a public?

[fierce thunder]

its a public one

i assumed it used particles because of the details

its called "neon ukon!"

doing gestures trigger diffrent weapons that have lights

[desert elk]

could be uploaded through a bad sdk if it actually does have light and not emissions
as the legit vrchat sdk doesn't permit light on quest

[fierce thunder]

not sure about the quest details

[timber wharf]

glowing beyond mesh boundaries emissions are based on post-processing bloom, default unity scene got no post processing but it can be setup for testing, in vrc its up to a world creator to include one and pp is unavailable on quest at all due hw limitations

additive particles with blurry edges ofc can fake it somewhat

[fierce thunder]

alright ill try it thanks for the help

the avatar i used as an example is sdk 2.0 so it was probably something that was possible in the past

[timber wharf]

pp is world based, its not a thing nor ever was on quest

like, can you show actually glowing example?

[fierce thunder]

i can send in a video i think

i dont know how to record on standalone

im using a pico 4

i dont use my headset standalone unless im testing avatar stuff

im just gonna try it in the future when i got more knowledge

[timber wharf]

id guess its just emmits bunch of particles bound by main skinned mesh

ie shape section of particle

[fierce thunder]

ill try to take a video

[fierce thunder]

i also checked the details on quest and it showed the exact same as the pc details

[timber wharf]

oh, thats looks lika a normal light, shouldnt be possible on quest.
maybe this https://booth.pm/en/items/3644288 but ive no idea through what this is done.

[fierce thunder]

amazing thank you

[heavy zephyr]

You can have lights on quest but only through a workaround and it's not recommended at all

[fierce thunder]

why is it not recommended?

seems to work well

[heavy zephyr]

Because lights have a big performance impact and quest doesn't need more lag.

[fierce thunder]

if they have peformance issues they can either stop using the light or turn the avatar off

ill test if it crashes people later

if it does i wont use it

[balmy barn]

random person turns on alot and crashes you see you should have turned them off

reason why the potato quest shouldnt have certain things, very easy to make them crash

[pulsar marsh]

Sorry, another Question, Would adding Disolve effects to an Avi un-optimize it by a big margin?

[fierce thunder]

no worries i wont use it if it does crash people

[heavy zephyr]

Dissolve isn't very heavy on performance no

[timber wharf]

@pulsar marsh wha, dissolve how. dissolve usually a shader.

[pulsar marsh]

Thank you!

[pulsar marsh]

Ey brooda i dont know alot with this, nothing would suprise me

[tidal silo]

all 5 are outfit toggles using int parameters

[smoky tinsel]

did you ever find a fix for this issue ? am currently trying to add an animation which only affects one arm, while keeping all the other base layer stuff active, but even when i use a mask on action it will override all the other muscles too

[timber wharf]

@smoky tinsel you need to have a separate tracking control to override only part of humanoid with animation while the rest is still IK, not masks https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-tracking-control

[smoky tinsel]

Sorry if i'm misunderstanding something here, but i thought the Animator Tracking Control would only be used if i'm trying to overwrite tracking data like when i'm on vr, in my case i have no tracking, i have goloco stuff in my base layer and want to temporarily overwrite those animations for only a specific bodypart

[somber sequoia]

that's not really what that does

it doesn't "overwrite" anything

wow I can type today.

Anyway - it does exactly what you need to do there, lets you animate one arm only

[timber wharf]

@smoky tinsel when youre not in vr, you run default locomotion animations

or grab pickup animations etc

so you want to overwite it explicitly regardless.

oh tho idk how itd work with gogo, never touched it

since gogo is already overwriting stuff

[smoky tinsel]

exactly

that's the part where i feel like we're kinda talking past each other

[timber wharf]

well cant help. make sure your layer is lower than any gogo.

[smoky tinsel]

i did that but every playable layer i try putting it in has some other complications, like when i put it in the base layer it will constantly override all other goloco stuff and i cannot disable layers for base

i also read some people talk about putting a layer back into a "neutral" state or "exiting" a layer by having all animated parameters return to their default values but i'm not sure what those values would be for muscles or if that even works there (also everything is using WD on by the way)

[pallid bobcat]

Hello I want to get started making an avatar but I wanted to know how do you add animations and objects

Is it all unity or no?

[desert elk]

objects, as in props to toggle on/off?

[pallid bobcat]

Yes

[desert elk]

that's unity

https://youtu.be/XqtSg6_W07Y?si=QvrKHvdlJzJ2x5e9

[pallid bobcat]

I’m not clicking a random link

[desert elk]

and animations would also be in unity, because they're also toggles

[desert elk]

bruh it's not my fault it didn't embed

it's a tutorial

same one as this

#avatar-general message

that one embeded

[leaden laurel]

Would anyone be able to explain what I could be doing wrong with trying to add phys bones to a novabeast it seemed to have already had them setup so I basically just enabled it in the "inspector" tab and put it into play mode to see if the already existing one worked it in fact did not I've also looked up a video and after following that it still dont seem to want to work for me.

[timber wharf]

and how it doesnt work? playmode, uploaded?

[leaden laurel]

ok so I put it into play mode clicked the whole model in the "hierarchy" and clicked the move icon in the tiny tool bar in the "scene" and dragged the model around to see if the phys bone worked it is just still it dont move

[desert elk]

do you see the physbones on the model?

[leaden laurel]

No not at all

[balmy barn]

if radius doesnt show up, add endpoint ( 1 bone ones need it )

[desert elk]

yup

was gonna suggest this

[timber wharf]

@balmy barn i doubt novabeast needs that, its way past physbones introduction

[leaden laurel]

mk I will try rq

[timber wharf]

@leaden laurel enable gizmos ie rightmost ball on top of 3d view

[leaden laurel]

oh it is there LOL

I am assuming it is that cone shape thing

[desert elk]

yes

[timber wharf]

well ye now test and see if anything jiggles when dragging root around

[leaden laurel]

kk

ok so in play mode the physbones move but the boob itself does not

[timber wharf]

then its some mixed meshes problem, ie your existing boob bone doesnt affect your skinned mesh. go outside of play mode, find boob bone and drag it, if mesh doesnt deform then it doesnt listen to it (ie not affected by vertex group of said armature)

then idk, try to find one that actually makes mesh follow, or thats not great

[leaden laurel]

it does deform so that is so odd

[timber wharf]

hm okay now it is. and bone youre moving is a child of one with physbone, not some random different one?

[leaden laurel]

yea the main parent shows blue in the hierarchy yea?

if so that is the one I am moving

she stretching she just wanna be fussy with me lol

[somber sequoia]

blue just means it's an object in a prefab, nothing more

[leaden laurel]

hmm

so hypothetically speaking

if i was to add phys bones to all the breats bone things would that be fine

[somber sequoia]

you just need one physbone component on the root of the bone chain you wish to have physics.

[leaden laurel]

to see if I am using the wrong bone

[timber wharf]

ye, i mean bone youre stretching is child in hierarchy like those are all children (or grandchildren ) of breastq_r with physbone

overall thats a lot of children there, doesnt seem right

[leaden laurel]

there is only cause some of the clothing I have on I have had to unpack the prefab and move it into the thing so it would move with the model properly or it was clipping not moving with it etc

[glacial vessel]

can anyone help me link my pats and shoes to the legs

idk why they arent

[desert elk]

how did you try to attach them?

what method?

[flint cipher]

Hei everyone! Im looking for help with creating an outfit system for my avatar. I wrote everything in detail in this help post! https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1372974784425754784 Thanks for reading ❤️

[desert elk]

making avatars is a big task, you're better of asking specific questions

what do you mean by "outfit system"?

[glacial vessel]

it was working before, armature and data tarnsfer mod

[somber sequoia]

that's very vague. What about "armature"?

[flint cipher]

i have a bunch of complete Outfits for my rindo, personally i prefer mixing them up however to make stuff i like. And i want to be able to easily switch between each full outfit. Previously i had every outfit item in its own category i.e. underwear, top, legs etc. and toggled them all on via animations controlled via the rotary menu thingy. but thats been a while and i forgot how i did it. Also its a lot of work i feel like when i want to add new stuff.

[somber sequoia]

IMO do separate outfits as separate avatars.

[desert elk]

i agree

if you want to have likr 7 different outfits, it'd be better of having 7 different avatars

but, you could achieve that by int toggles or maybe blendtrees (i'm new to them, so I'm not sure)
here's a tutorial for int toggles (the part with hats)
https://youtu.be/XqtSg6_W07Y?si=QvrKHvdlJzJ2x5e9

[timber wharf]

separate avatars is the best one. separate meshes for each outfit is 2nd best, still takes whole vram and destroys your perf rank but you do know its only one shown at a time. you can chase better rank with tile discard but if overall perf rank is beyond poor then no point

[glacial vessel]

The modifier called armature

[somber sequoia]

... but what did you do exactly

[glacial vessel]

i cleaned up some bones that werent supposed to be there

and

it stopped working

i think

[somber sequoia]

... right.

[glacial vessel]

weird thing tho

the pantys and shorts are still working

[flint cipher]

separate avatars arent really something i want to consider since its a lot of effort if i make any changes to the base itself or other parts of the model to keep all of those updated. I used the video to make the current system i used but for my taste thats still kind of a lot of work. Are there maybe any plugins or smth someone can recommend?

[balmy barn]

achievement

[somber sequoia]

Welcome to VeryPoor land.

[desert elk]

let me introduce you yo override fbx

[timber wharf]

whoa, just a casual 1.5m avatar

nothing new move along

[jaunty plume]

hate to interupt the convo
The material wont apply to the body mesh? when i enter play mode it turns purpol :[

[somber sequoia]

probably a material swap animation is active, you'd need to find that

[timber wharf]

well i mean nothing beats 2gb vram eboy i met last new years. completely stock as well, just typical gumroad

thank lord vrc stopped that

[wooden nova]

im back again about rigging this tube i tried using aim constraints in hopes of faking it but it made it spazz out

its not using them in the photo but idk how to use final ik either

so im stumped

i need to stop making avatars with tubes and wires

[glacial vessel]

@somber sequoia can u help me

[desert elk]

explain, step by step how you attached the clothing

cause the info you provided is very limited

[glacial vessel]

so i imported the pants, i used the correct bones, positioned and merged armatures

it was working before

so was the shpors

shoes*

but it isnt now

[somber sequoia]

yeah without full details on what you did and the current state of things, I have no idea what to suggest.

[glacial vessel]

mm

mb i deformed armature and did data tarnsfer too

[desert elk]

what changed? You said you deleted "bones that weren't supposed to be there". My guess would be that they were supposed to be there, if everything worked before deleting them

[glacial vessel]

well it was bones from a different body

that i accidentally added

the bones in my armature are now the ones from zinfit, tail, and hair

for example there was a extra sdet of shoulder bones called "should left/right" when zinfits is .L/.R

they also didnt move in unity

and nothing moved with them.

could the meshes have been linked with them?

[desert elk]

maybe, hard to tell

[glacial vessel]

ive reimported and rigged

still nothin

it has they weight painting

[desert elk]

can you send a screenshot from blender?

of the full screen

[glacial vessel]

what should be open?

[desert elk]

the model?

i basically want to see the hierarchy

[glacial vessel]

alright

ive already dome my head hair and body merge

[desert elk]

what isn't moving as it should?

[glacial vessel]

pants

shoes

[somber sequoia]

do they have vertex groups which match the bone names?

[glacial vessel]

sweatshirt to but it isnt apart of the legs

[desert elk]

i was about to ask that

[glacial vessel]

yes

[somber sequoia]

must be no weights in them if they don't move then

[glacial vessel]

wait

it did

now it dfoesnt

wth

it has.. foot weights

wth

why does it move with the feet now man,

[spare spear]

how much playtime do i need to publish avatar because on steam it says i have 29Hour but i cant publish avatars

[desert elk]

do you have an official vrchat account?

[somber sequoia]

weight painting.

[spare spear]

on the website?

[desert elk]

in general

[somber sequoia]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[somber sequoia]

That second paragraph ^

[desert elk]

playtime doesn't really matter if it's afk btw
you need to actually play the game

[spare spear]

well i have a vrchat account i think

[somber meadow]

The best way getting out of visitor is to make friends in the game normally, and visit different worlds with them

or just toss $10 at a single month of VRC+

[glacial vessel]

is there a way i can jus merge the armatures without messing stuff up

[somber sequoia]

I never actually "merge" armatures, so I'm not sure what you're trying to do here.

[desert elk]

are the pants weight painted before merging?

[desert elk]

import them and test

[spare spear]

well i have a bunch of friends but my account still doesnt have the permitions for it

[somber meadow]

Does your account have a random string of 4 characters after it in the name

[spare spear]

yea

[somber sequoia]

that's a steam account

[somber meadow]

then it's a platform account, not a VRChat account

[spare spear]

then how i do a vrchat account?

[glacial vessel]

the cats addon

[desert elk]

you will need to merge it with a vrc account

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLaSwtWHl2E&t=22s

tutorial

[somber meadow]

https://vrchat.com/home/register

[somber sequoia]

it's in that link ^

[somber meadow]

You can merge your platform account to the VRChat one so your friends/favorites aren't gone

[glacial vessel]

yes, but to its own armature

[desert elk]

do the bone names match?

of the pants and the avatar?

[somber sequoia]

doesn't matter - if the vertex group names are the same as the armature you want to use, just swap armatures in teh armature modifier.

[desert elk]

yea

[somber sequoia]

"merging" is rarely actually required.

[glacial vessel]

ah

wait wtf

the boobs arent moving with the bones???

ts shit broken

[spare spear]

hey if i merge the account do i have to play for the playtime to count or the playtime i had before counts?

[desert elk]

doesn't the video I sent explain it? I don't remember, it's been a while

[somber meadow]

Your hidden rank level is transferred, (by whichever's account is higher)

[somber sequoia]

I don't think before-time counts

oh ok

[spare spear]

what are the ranks btw so i know

[somber meadow]

Visitor, New User, User, Known User, Trusted User

[spare spear]

kk ty

[timber wharf]

pretty sure it inherits your highest rank, its just with vrc one it climbs way faster (to the point of being useless but nothing new here)

[glacial vessel]

why is my rotate not showing up in pose mode

it just highlights the bone no tool

[somber sequoia]

I don't use the tools, I just hit r to rotate things

[somber meadow]

transform tool probably isn't selected but I'd recommend using the hotkeys in your workflow to act faster

yeah

R > Rotate (tap R again for swivel)
G > Move
S > Scale

[glacial vessel]

ok so my body is fucked

[somber sequoia]

think of g as "grab" and you'll remember it's for moving

[glacial vessel]

my boobs dont move with the boob bones

but do move with the chest

[somber sequoia]

weight painting

[spare spear]

guys i had the User rank but now that i merged its appearing as Visitor does it reset or it will just take sometime to change?

[somber meadow]

merging takes some time

[glacial vessel]

is there a way i can transfer the weight paint from one bone to another

[spare spear]

oh alright alright

when it merges i will be able to publish the avatars right?

[somber meadow]

when you sign into the VRChat account in the SDK, yes

As long as you're New User or above you can upload

[somber sequoia]

copy the vertex group and name the copy the same as the target bone

[glacial vessel]

i see

[somber sequoia]

this is the avatar help channel, you have world stuff there?

[violet mist]

Anyone here familiar with using physbone stretch values to edit blendshapes? I'm currently trying to get one of those working, but the stretch value seems to instantly max out. Anyone got any idea why this is?

[unreal geyser]

no im trying to publish an avatar but that error popped up