avatar-help

[somber sequoia]

different shaders might do different things. Also use the same Anchor Override if those are separate mesh objects.

[eager acorn]

All shaders make the textures darker and all this has been joined to one single mesh

[heavy wraith]

different shaders works differently and handle things in their own way

so,.use the same shaders for consistency

[somber sequoia]

yep

[eager acorn]

that's the point. I plan on using the same material for all textures but the problem is that no matter which vrchat provided material I use they end up darkening the textures which I'd like to avoid

[somber sequoia]

do you have vertex colors? VRChat shaders use those

usually that results in solid colors and not shading, but who knows

[eager acorn]

why would they use vertex colors?

[somber sequoia]

what the VRChat shaders? I don't know, but they do

[eager acorn]

that is extremely dumb but also exactly what caused the problem, so thanks

[somber sequoia]

oh excellent

they can be quite useful, though I have no idea why it isn't a toggle.

[eager acorn]

is there a way to get rid of them within unity or do I need to reimport the character?

[somber sequoia]

I think VRC Quest Tools can, but I haven't used it myself

[eager acorn]

ugh, this is why I switched to unreal

[spare dome]

doesn anyone knows what this means i uploaded one avi andnow all this started happening i have to more avis i need to test and i cant even enter play mode

[somber sequoia]

do you have the latest VRChat SDK?

[spare dome]

i wouls imagine so i just made the project file this moring

[somber sequoia]

I don't see how that's relevant. Go check.

I've no idea what that is

[safe nimbus]

I am trying to build test an avatar and I am facing and issue where the avatar's hit box is insanely tall and it throws the avatar into the sky but it contorts as if I walked through a collider I am impl8imenting a fix but if that doesn't work I will document the issue and upload it here

[harsh wigeon]

How do I get started in making a custom avi? I've never done it before.

[safe nimbus]

any ideas?

[spare dome]

okay that seemed to fixe most of them but thes two

[safe nimbus]

this could just be an issue with the model itself but Why is the model registered as laying down in unity?

is it a plugin you are using?

[somber sequoia]

start by learning to make 3D models. There should be lots of tutorials around. Those from Rainhet are aimed at VRChat specifically, might be a good place to start.

[safe nimbus]

it's a boolien ( if I am spelling that right ) and pretty much it's a value on one of the meshes or parts

and it's pretty much just a math equasion to remove parts

[somber sequoia]

"boolean"

[safe nimbus]

so if you have a cube intersecting a cube it will remove that geometry and add the missing geometry you probably dont have it applied

[safe nimbus]

thanks

so did you make the model yourself?

there are boolean settings in unity that I would recommend checking out

as that might help you

it's been ages since I even touched unity so I think it would be within the animations/ coding tree

you should be able to if there is an error code for it go to the component that is causing the issues and sort it out there

that has to be a plugin then and if I am wrong then someone correct me

as it would have to be a plugin on the avatar

some bit of code that is causing that

[frail temple]

Stupid question, how do i make it so i don't have to update these on every project i make

[somber sequoia]

I just wrote a little shell script using vpm to upgrade everything in a project at once

I missed what you're trying to find, but you could set the weight for every animator layer to 0, then turn them on one-by-one until you find the one that causes the problem

I mean, I'd probably grep the animation files for that variable, but that might be a bit advanced.

yeah VF_ means that's in one of the layers VRCfury auto-generates somehow. This is a main reason for my dislike of it, it's a black box.

I can't see how you would do such a thing if you can't find the source of it

[mental estuary]

Why don't you ask in VRCFury's Discord server and they can tell you why it's there or what it's for

There's no point asking here, or trying to report VRCFury bugs here, they're going to know more in their server

[somber sequoia]

I'm also kinda curious how you tracked down that this is the cause

ah ok

probably Fury is copying that from something else when it does some magic combining

[safe nimbus]

Im still sorting out the blender side of things but I am lost as to what is going on with this avatar

[somber sequoia]

Specifically what are you asking about here?

[safe nimbus]

so in the test builds the hitbox and avatar sit way above where I am but the camera still is in the first person and the error messages about rotations and how everything is parented is throwing me off

[somber sequoia]

post error messages. And make sure the avatar is standing on 0,0,0 and all transforms are applied in Blender.

[safe nimbus]

also do you still need to set the first person perspective camera in the creator companion or is that gone in the newer builds

[somber sequoia]

You have to set the viewpoint, yes.

[heavy wraith]

Set your avatar view point between your eyes

[safe nimbus]

yup just trying to remember how to get to the view point menu

[somber sequoia]

it's in the avatar descriptor

[safe nimbus]

idk if it is just me or if something is broken but the avatar descriptor has nothing but the rig

[somber sequoia]

what is going on here

It seems like your body parts (mesh objects) are children of bones, this is strange.

[safe nimbus]

yeah I had rigged it like that but I am realizing that I am going to have to redo it

as I was trying to avoid fighting with the weight paint system

[spark urchin]

Does anyone know what that Avi is called?

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

[spark urchin]

Thank you

[safe nimbus]

would that cause the issues I am having with unity?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what issues you have but this is setup in a very strange way.

[safe nimbus]

here let me upload a video rq

[somber sequoia]

I'd go rework this in Blender before trying to fix things in Unity.

[safe nimbus]

alr

[somber sequoia]

not really sure what this video shows either?

[safe nimbus]

the avatar is above where it should be

but is acting like it is above where it needs to be

[somber sequoia]

if you didn't set your viewpoint, you need to do that first

[safe nimbus]

like if I clipped through a wall or something

[safe nimbus]

yup trying that now to see if that helps but I am not seeing the option to set it

[somber sequoia]

it's in the avatar descriptor. where that is, I have no idea 'cause that whole thing is setup weird.

[modern tundra]

So Im unsure if this Is happening to anybody else but every few unity projects I make I get this error when trying to use the VRC-Play audio script in my animator. Is there a way to fix it?

[somber sequoia]

did you maybe not give that component an AudioSource?

[modern tundra]

I did

[somber sequoia]

it exists, right? 🙂

[modern tundra]

yes...

[somber sequoia]

I mean, at that location? You didn't move it or something like that?

[modern tundra]

Nope it is on the head bone

[somber sequoia]

This component stores the path of the object at the time you set it up, but won't track if you move it like lots of other things do

[safe nimbus]

just tried to look it up and it says it is disabled

[somber sequoia]

I really don't have a clue about this from here, you haven't showed this component so I can't help further.

[modern tundra]

yes I know, Its stayed in the same spot, ive also redragged the audio source into the component again just to make sure and it still wont work.

[somber sequoia]

ok good. That was my best guess.

[somber sequoia]

... what is this?

[safe nimbus]

the only thing I can find on the avatar descriptor

though I was able to set up the rig

[somber sequoia]

usually you put the VRC Avatar Descriptor component on the root of your avatar. Again, I have no idea why your avatar is setup like this but it seems completely wrong.

[safe nimbus]

so fix the model in blender and try again and see if that helps?

[somber sequoia]

I guess?

[safe nimbus]

what do you think is the best way to rig it? parent the mesh to the rig but then weight paint it so that only the bones I want to control the meshes would be able to move it?

[somber sequoia]

That is the standard way, yes.

[silk thorn]

So I'm working on this project, and my shrink has game has been mediocre, how do people get those perfect line shrinks?

Do they just make an object and modify it to shrinkwrap?

[somber sequoia]

line shrinks?

[rain summit]

Is therea way to change the physical location voice comes frome?

[somber sequoia]

nope

[polar onyx]

Anyone know how to fix this?? been stuck on building avatar for over an hour

[rain summit]

What determines where an avatat's voice comes from?

[night ember]

head bone

[night ember]

switch tabs back and forth

[light charm]

try changing the transition times to 1000 (the ones that restore tracking)

(forgive me idk how to explain it any better)

like its not the transition time its uhh
the animation time?
make sure the restore tracking animation is 1 frame and is not looped

[cursive laurel]

Anyone able to assist with setting up face tracking for a model? I've got ARKit shapes set up but not sure how to set it up so it works in unity

[somber sequoia]

there's a whole discord for FT - have you tried there?

[cursive laurel]

Didn't know there was, is there a link?

[somber sequoia]

I can DM it to you, if that's ok

[cursive laurel]

sure

[fervent rune]

Hello friends I have inserted my avatar from blender into unity and since then it is in the t pose

[night ember]

you need to rig the fbx as humanoid

[fervent rune]

I have already set this

and it still doesn't work

[polar onyx]

It just doesn't build again

[night ember]

internet problem maybe?

[night ember]

did you unpack your avatar?

[polar onyx]

Idk, worked fine on another project

Strange

[safe nimbus]

I am trying to import a avatar into unity to get set up and I can't get unity to take the FBX

any idea what is going on there?

[night ember]

wdym take the fbx

[safe nimbus]

like I am trying to drag and drop the fbx file into unity and all I am getting is my cursor changing to the cancel icon

[night ember]

you drag it into the assets folder

unless you are still searching something in the assets folder

[fervent rune]

what i make my owen avatar in blender and import to unity and i stand in a t pose

[night ember]

tpose in unity or in game?

[fervent rune]

unity and game bro

[safe nimbus]

that sounds like a rigging issue

did you make sure to weight paint everything as needed?

[fervent rune]

yeh

[unborn mirage]

I am running into a lot of issues with aim constraint for avatar bones where at certain angles the bone just twist. It's a bit unclear how to prevent it.

[safe nimbus]

so anyone have any quick ways to find out which verticeis out of 5k+ needs to be weight painted?

[rain wave]

would reducing & lowering textures help lower this amount??

[night ember]

yes

[frail temple]

aren't neck and shoulders optional bones? why does my upload require them?

[night ember]

they are in fact not

[frail temple]

thank you unity, very cool

[night ember]

theres a difference between unity's optional bones and vrchat's

[wraith salmon]

Hey so for some reason my avatar's eyelook and blinking refuses to function despite the fact I am able to preview all of that just fine

Like when I upload the avatar or preview it with gesture manager neither of those things work

So it isn't an issue with the eyes not being weight painted or the blendshapes being empty or something

[rain wave]

oh okay let me do that then

[crimson pendant]

How do you set up the VRC Animator Play Audio behavior with motion time so that it only plays audio after a float parameter reaches a certain value?

[open nova]

I got same problem here

what's goin on there tho

[night ember]

couldnt you just set the condition to be that float value

[crimson pendant]

My avi has a surpised animation for when the tail is pulled that's motion time based, but I want it to play an audio clip only at the end of that animation

[night ember]

could just toggle on the object that has the audio source

[arctic ginkgo]

Do it in another layer using the same parameter

Or you could use a blendtree for the tail animation and either put that in a DBT to optimize layers or have it in the animation states that you use for your audio logic

[crimson pendant]

I tried it like this, the audio seems to always be delayed for about a second

though, it's kinda random

sometimes it's almost immediately, most of the time it's delayed, and sometimes it just doesn't play if the parameter isn't held above what I set the condition to for long enough

[arctic ginkgo]

Well how did you have it set up?

[crimson pendant]

op, I think I figured it out. For some reason, I think adding the _IsGrabbed parameter of the bone driving the animation makes it respond faster..?

do float-driven animations just have a lower refresh rate or something?

[wraith salmon]

Sorry for asking again but I still am not able to figure out why it isn't working

[somber sequoia]

got a toggle somewhere that's disabling it?

[wraith salmon]

Nope not a single animation touches the eyes

[somber sequoia]

I can't think of what else it might be then

[wraith salmon]

Only thing with the eyes is that I have a rotation constraint on the top set of eyes using the bottom ones as a source

I guess I could try using the top set of eyes for the avatar descriptor but that seems like a less than optimal solution

[somber sequoia]

which one are the actual eye bones though?

[wraith salmon]

I doubt it would work anyways

[wraith salmon]

The bottom ones

but they do both have their own set of bones

[somber sequoia]

yeah, then use those. Make sure those are the ones in the rig setup too

[wraith salmon]

And regardless that doesn't solve the blinking problem

[wraith salmon]

I am and I did

That's why I'm so confused as to why this isn't working

[somber sequoia]

oh ok - VRC Animator Tracking Control left on somewhere?

[wraith salmon]

Nope

[somber sequoia]

I'm running out of ideas here!

[wraith salmon]

Same

It's so weirdddd

there was a parameter driver that was driving nothing though, not sure why that was there

[lost umbra]

Hey, I'm making a eye poke receiver next and wanted to know what most PEN are called? Are they just PEN?

[wraith salmon]

I don't think most pens have a collider?

[lost umbra]

oh they dont? (I'm currently adding pain system to mine such as being stepped on has negative effects for example.) Being poked in the eye with pens are quite common and figured it needed to be treated similar.

[slate nimbus]

hey...ummmmmmmmmm...y'all know how the rgb auto switch color thing is called?

[lost umbra]

audio link

[slate nimbus]

not by radial or toggle

[lost umbra]

you can use it with poi or fast fur

[slate nimbus]

no i ment for quest

i mean

[lost umbra]

ah, it's called animation

[slate nimbus]

yh ik but like...

[wraith salmon]

Yeah just a looping animation that hue shifts it

[slate nimbus]

if i go to play mode i just wanna have it like...on default on

without like...

[wraith salmon]

Yeah

[slate nimbus]

the nawiko Avi

[wraith salmon]

Have the material be hue shifted by a looping animation

just put that animation in a layer

[slate nimbus]

and how????

like...

[wraith salmon]

How much do you know

what material are you using

[slate nimbus]

ehhhh...to an extent

[slate nimbus]

VRChat/Mobile/Standard Lite

[wraith salmon]

Oh

You can't

[slate nimbus]

coz y'all know the nawiko Avi

right?

[wraith salmon]

The avatar doesn't matter

Can't hue shift mobile shaders as far as I know

[ornate stump]

You could animate color property to mimic hue shifting.

[wraith salmon]

Like this where each one adjusts the hue by 30 degrees

@slate nimbus

In case you don't know how to switch the color picker over to hsv you just click on that and select hsv

technically you don't need to do it that way and you could do it in rgb mode but that's kinda annoying

[wraith salmon]

I still have no clue what broke but uhhh exporting it as a package and putting it in a new project worked I guess?

Nevermind apparently it now just works in the project it was broken in before despite the fact I haven't really changed anything

God I hate unity

[frail temple]

Does my avatar stand like this because of the roll on the hand bones?

[dusty frost]

Does anyone know what could be causing this? Almost every time I try to add a prefab or click on an expressions menu/parameters Unity crashes and starts doing this. It was working fine yesterday, now all the sudden everything is broken. I tried reinstalling Unity, reinstalled all of the packages, deleted the library folder, and even made a new project but the problem persisted.

[icy wyvern]

i love spawning into the ground
(i somehow fixed it, no idea what was wrong tho)

[polar onyx]

I had to remake everything from scratch in a new unity project on sdk version 3.7.6

[limpid cargo]

i did pc toggles and they work fine,
but converting the avatar to quest and now the toggles only work once and then they get stuck and need to reset the whole the avatar, help appreciated

[west magnet]

I'm trying to stop my particles from colliding with my flight hitbox, what option would I disable to stop them hitting the flight but hit everything else?

[fervent rune]

my tail is stiff what did I do wrong

[ornate stump]

How are the bones look like in the scene?

[ornate stump]

What are those messy lines?

[timber wharf]

@west magnet in collision for particles disable Player/PlayerLocal/MirrorReflection

[west magnet]

Ah thank you!

[hard valve]

hello I have no idea why certain bones are being sucked down like that since ive gone through and manually reparented the bones to how they should be the same way in both arms

[frail temple]

Show us the rig in it's FBX

[hard valve]

from blender or unity?

oh wait i getcha

@frail temple ive spent a good couple hrs trying to fix this in a few areas and can never get it to be correct

[frail temple]

Okay, that doesn't make sense to me, I would install the animation rig in package manager to be able to see how the bones look like in Gesture Manager

[hard valve]

you'll have to explain what you mean by that as im not familiar with gesture manager

[fervent rune]

hello my hair is going through my head what can I do about it

[desert elk]

its a package you can install in vcc that lets you preview the avatar and animation before uploading it to the game

[desert elk]

physbone limits or collider

[hard valve]

im more used to the 3.0 emulator, is there smth similar do you know for it

[desert elk]

?

what

3.0 emulator and gesture manager do similar things

[hard valve]

is it a specific feature of gesture manager or will there be the same thing

bc im not sure atm what i need to do with it

[desert elk]

I don't know what the conversation is about, i just saw you ask what it is so I answered. I haven't read the previous messages

[hard valve]

i see i see

[wind skiff]

how would i go about adding a small hud element on an avatar? it should be a small bar driven by a float on the avatar

[slow niche]

can anyone help me with this ? , its keep counting

[frigid glade]

Is the mesh affected when you use blendshapes??

[still shuttle]

Have you tried dragging her fbx into the scene and re-setting it up?

[wraith salmon]

Did you overwrite an existing model or is that what it looks like when you drag it into the scene

[hard valve]

@frigid glade If possible id like to avoid that as I’ve set up a lot of vrcfury toggles that would be hell to setup again. Though I haven’t tried it yet I’ll see what it does

[ripe bloom]

so what does websocketexcpetion mean

[ornate stump]

Your conection to server had an issue.

[frigid glade]

I’ve had a couple problems with avatars in the past where some parts of the mesh start pulling towards the floor when I mess with the sliders for the models blendshapes. To fix it you just have to go in blender, select the affected vertices and click propagate to shapes

[ashen hinge]

So why is this happening? It doesn't let me upload the avatar

[indigo compass]

Missing scripts mentioned at the top, did you install everything you were told to install on the avi's page/documentation?

[ashen hinge]

I think I did

I'm guessing removing the components isn't correct either?

[ornate stump]

You seems to not remove all of them.

[rapid forum]

how do I fix this error? I did what someone else said but its literally still here

[junior void]

Show your animator being on your avatars root

[rapid forum]

kk

This?

[hard valve]

@wraith salmon @frigid glade dragging the prefab into the scene again. There isnt anything being sucked into the floor, however im not sure why and would really hate to have to set her up all over again

[hard valve]

reassign the correct bones from the armature into the corresponding slots

[frigid glade]

You could use pumpkins avatar tools to copy everything over??? Otherwise I’m not sure if there’s a way to revert it depending on what’s caused it

[hard valve]

it sadly doesnt work with vrcfury components as far as im aware

[somber sequoia]

but you don't need it to, you can just drag new copies of those onto the new avatar

[rapid forum]

But they ARE assigned correctly?

[balmy barn]

2 uppertorso no no

[somber sequoia]

they are not - you have "UpperTorso" in the lower spine spot

[hard valve]

you cant assign the same bone to multiple slots

[hard valve]

they cant simply be dragged and dropped it takes a very very long time as ive done it once before with the entire toggle menu

[desert elk]

yeah, same with the upper arm

[rapid forum]

Why? Its a roblox avatar it moves like that

[balmy barn]

pumkin have this option expand the copy , rarely use vrcfury myself soo

[somber sequoia]

isn't that the entire point of a VRCFury prefab, that it can simply be dragged and dropped?

[desert elk]

Roblox ≠ Vrchat

some things are different

you can't have one bone in two different spots

[hard valve]

oh how have i never seen this I'll try tysm

[rapid forum]

mmmm

So I gotta make more bones or can I fix it without starting over and going back to blender?

Cuz I didnt make this rig

[somber sequoia]

If your avatar does not have a humanoid rig (there's a diagram of one pinned in #avatar-rigging ) then it cannot be humanoid

[desert elk]

if you don't have the necessary bones, you will need to add them

[somber sequoia]

and that means making up the entire locomotion system

[rapid forum]

locomotion system?

[somber sequoia]

walking, running, etc.

[desert elk]

how the avatar moves, etc

[somber sequoia]

all of those animations you'd have to make, and the animator to drive them

[rapid forum]

Greaaaat

[hard valve]

would using the rig from a premade base and repositioning the bones work for that maybe, if you were to re-weightpaint it?

[rapid forum]

If I click a non humanoid thing would it work?

I think there were other options but tbh I forgot

[somber sequoia]

non-humanoid is what I'm talking about here

[desert elk]

you'd need to make all the animations and everything

it's not that hard to add the bones, they don't need to be weight painted if I remember correctly, they just need to exist

[rapid forum]

Generic?

[rapid forum]

I cannot add bones to this rig idk how

[desert elk]

in blender

[rapid forum]

Well yeah but its a circle rig or whatever

Idk what its called

[desert elk]

circle?

[rapid forum]

hold on

[somber sequoia]

anything not humanoid means you have to do the locomotion yourself, doesn't matter which of those options

[rapid forum]

Its one of these

[somber sequoia]

looks like IK targets

[desert elk]

I've never converted a Roblox avatar, but I think there are tutorials online, no?

[rapid forum]

The problem with those tutorials is they never include 3d clothing

So even if I follow them I cant bring my jacket

[hard valve]

@balmy barn you are a lifesaver, i was up until 9am trying to figure this out just for that to be hidden in plain sight :')

[rapid forum]

Can I just parent a preexisting vrchat rig to this one?

and call it a day

Ive spent way to long on this stupid project I cannot

[balmy barn]

torso , neck and shoulders missing but its sorta like that , dont care about bending its all blocks

[desert elk]

you'd need to weight paint everything

[rapid forum]

Not doing that

Anyway

Can I spit the bones in half then?

[somber sequoia]

sure, click on one and in the right click menu, subdivide

[rapid forum]

That way I aint gotta make any new ones and they get stay generallyyyy in the right spot

Fantastic

Wait in unity or blender?

[somber sequoia]

you'll probably need to at least check the weight paint.
in blender.

[rapid forum]

I kinda lost track of what we talking about tbh

[somber sequoia]

you can't do much useful in unity

[rapid forum]

noted

[desert elk]

yeah, blender is necessary

[rapid forum]

Found a quicker solution anyway, it still gimme an error tho?

idddkkk

I feel like I did everything

[somber sequoia]

you need Chest no matter what it says there

[desert elk]

chest is a must bone, you can't skip it

[somber sequoia]

also I'm not sure what Flip is, but we'll assume that's the actual root bone?

[rapid forum]

yeah

Hold up I forgot to uuhhh

Do I need a spine?

Or can I rip that away and put upper torso on chest?

[somber sequoia]

you must have, in order: hips -> spine -> chest -> upper chest (optional) -> head -> neck

[rapid forum]

neck?? my character dont even haveeee a neck

maaan

can I use the root bone as the spine?

yknow flip bone

[somber sequoia]

whatever the root bone is, that's "hips" in my thing there

[rapid forum]

That makes no sense yo hips dont move?

Valid question I fear

[somber sequoia]

it's the root of everything, of course it moves, that's how vrchat slides you around with the stick

[rapid forum]

How do I steal I mean borrow animations from roblox?

Specifically the popular animation pack

And the toy animation pack

[glass condor]

Anyone here familiar with blender sculpting? I got an oddly specific issue to ask about.

[rapid forum]

real

[somber sequoia]

#3d-modeling may be a good place to do that

[rapid forum]

Ok forget the animations

If I just click generic and use fbt itll work right?

Gotta charge my trackers lowkey

[glass condor]

it seems dead in there, hopefully someone sees it 😭

[somber sequoia]

no, it won't move at all if it's not humanoid and you built a whole locomotion layer

[desert elk]

yeah, it's not how it works unfortunately

[rapid forum]

Why not? Its got bones

[desert elk]

not the correct bones.

#avatar-rigging
for the avatar to move like a humanoid model it needs specific bones that you don't have

you could do what Thulen sent

it will work

just weight paint the mesh to the bones

[rapid forum]

Idk how to weight paint

Someone else weight painted my jacket

[desert elk]

there's 800 tutorials online

you'll find one you can understand

[rapid forum]

I tried man, they always stick together somehow

I dont like it

Weird thing is they really shouldnt stick together

At least as far as I can see

[desert elk]

you can always go to VRC Traders (link in #1204490664637890580 ) and commission someone for it 🤷 not here, in VRC Traders

[rapid forum]

lol

no

So thats it? The bones need to be weight painted?

Cuz I think they are tbh

yknow mostly

[desert elk]

you don't have the correct bones.

[rapid forum]

Oh right you did say that

[desert elk]

check the pinned posts in #avatar-rigging

mostly isn't good enough they need to be fully correct

[rapid forum]

aight I need spine, chest, and neck then

I mmmm

[desert elk]

.

everything is there

[rapid forum]

mhm

As I was saying

I got a blender plugin that lets me generate a vrchat ready rig

Is that aight? and I can justttt parent my current bones to that

then whatever extra bones I can just use that for the animator

[somber sequoia]

you're overcomplicating this in a big way

[desert elk]

yeah

[rapid forum]

I tried subdividing them and it messed up my model so idk

[desert elk]

you don't need to start everything from scratch, we're trying to tell you that

[rapid forum]

Yall just confusing me tbh

[desert elk]

"messed up" how?

[rapid forum]

Skill issue on my part tho

[rapid forum]

The arms detached and floated near the head

was mad odd

[balmy barn]

rig you can find in google just need to add shoulders, torso, neck (alternative rename them so unity dont go whats that)

[rapid forum]

AAAYYY we doing the same thing

[balmy barn]

nah im just bored

[desert elk]

I believe Thulen's just sending those so you know what to do

[rapid forum]

See what I mean

Theres a very real possibility im doing it wrong tho

[rapid forum]

quiiick tiny question

nvm dont feel like it now

[sage hawk]

A tutorial said you needed a plug-in/addon to import a model from blender to vrchat but when I tried putting in the addon an error popped up

[rapid forum]

Bruh I added extra bones but they dont even show up in unity

I hate this program

[somber sequoia]

are they shown in the hierarchy?

[rapid forum]

In unity? no

[somber sequoia]

oh ok, something wrong with export or import then

[rapid forum]

lovely

[desert elk]

if it's cats you're trying to install the wrong plug in version for your version of blender

https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

[somber sequoia]

Note that you don't actually need this plugin to import/export. It does have some other useful features though.

[desert elk]

and you don't go blender > vrchat
it's blender > unity > vrchat

[rapid forum]

ok so

My plans to extrude each bone for an extra bone didnt work and idk man

I think imma just give up tbh

Took months to actually finish the blender side now this

This is to much

[somber sequoia]

why not?

[rapid forum]

?

[somber sequoia]

why didn't it work?

[split crown]

question, when it comes to particles, what is needed to make a non looping particle activate when a contact sender enters a contact receiver?

[somber sequoia]

If you can turn the particle system off after easily, you could just enable the game object to play it, then turn it back off at the end of an animation.
If you want it to be a "fire each time triggered" like shooting a gun, you'll need to have the particle system spawn a child particle from a system which is NOT a child of the launcher one. Basically this is the "buffer particle" method.

[limpid cargo]

instead of extruding, i would’ve recommending subdivide the bone so it keeps position but split into 2

[rapid forum]

I tried this first

[rapid forum]

exibit A

[limpid cargo]

so why didn’t that work?

did you rename the bones and redo the weight painting afterwards?

[sage hawk]

how do you rig a character like this?

[somber sequoia]

same as any other?

[desert elk]

same as any other yeah

[mental tide]

i can't see the red dot for previewing my blend tree

following a youtube tutorial

😭 what am i even doing

this is so odd, i can see it in other blend trees but not in the one i want to preview

[pulsar marsh]

Hi everyone, i downloaded Bubbles Comfy Set, and i imported but the items are sorta see through at a certine angle and sometimes is not, why is this?

[atomic rain]

Umm guys there is a problem with these "Dragon Ball" Avatars. They have broken textures for the shaders and matcaps.

For Example this

All I see is some black

[frank sundial]

It's cuz they use legacy shaders or transparency, which was removed in the newest updates

[atomic rain]

Idk when there gonna be back

[somber sequoia]

Sometimes black like that is due to vertex colors

[atomic rain]

So how are they gonna back? (I don't think next update)

[somber sequoia]

they aren't

[atomic rain]

Not until the next VRCHAT update (still no)

[limpid cargo]

likely a normals issue?
go to the two overlapping circles button you see in the top right of blender, click the dropdown arrow, and enable “face orientation”
then send another screenshot

[arctic ginkgo]

the people who made these avatars were breaking the rules and abusing unwanted behavior, the issue has been patched and will only break content made by breaking rules

if you make content by breaking the rules you are taking a risk that it will get taken down or stop working since the behavior is unsupported

[atomic rain]

So the legacy shaders will never be back

Is that correct

[limpid cargo]

yes.

[atomic rain]

All they gotta do is make sure the albedo textures are assigned

[mellow scaffold]

I recently found a Na'vi model i wanted to edit and use, but its not like the anime models ive worked with, and i wanted to add him to vrchat, but the model doesnt seem to work that way? the textures only appear correctly in shading, and not layout or anything like that

[atomic rain]

Well, Akaza I'm having problems with anime avatars and that is dragon Ball Z avatars that appears to be black

[green raptor]

everything seems correct, why it says is not humanoid?

[ashen hinge]

Everything went well but there's one problem: the blush expression shows up weirdly despite the fact I'm not on quest. I tried using different shaders to no avail

[pseudo glacier]

Hello does anyone how know to change this back to the normal colours I had previously?

[desert elk]

what did you set your shader to? you need to set it to something that is transparent

[ashen hinge]

I set it to liltoon

[desert elk]

alright

but inside of that shader

you have different modes and settings

I never used liltoon so idk where specifically

but you need to change that

[ashen hinge]

I think I know what you mean, I'll play around with it

[pseudo glacier]

Nvm got it!!

[cold nebula]

Anyone know how to get rid of this warning? It's coming from my physbones and I've checked them/messed with them, fresh projects, added fresh physbones and nothing makes it go away. :
Never had this issue until yesterday and now it's affecting all my projects..

[pure isle]

if i wanted to add a collider to prevent my hair doing through the floor of rmy avi how would i go about that? i can figure the plane phys collider but i cant figure where to attach it to to keep it in a static location

[rotund solstice]

Does anyone know why the slider isn't working? This is the Just fit PB set up with modular avatar.

[mellow scaffold]

did you take off the color attribute?

[rotund solstice]

This should make it work if you haven't already fixed it yourself ^^

[ashen hinge]

Thank you thank you thank you

[compact cloak]

Texture looks fine in substance. The exported image seems to match what it looks like in substance. However, it looks to have ziggy edges in unity. No blendshapes are active. It is the same topology. Ideas?

[shell light]

I cant drag this avatar into the assets folder

nothing happens when I do

[worldly marlin]

im trying to mimic eyelook with an animator that just has a blendshape activate for a couple seconds every now and then

[atomic rain]

I'm a quest user but I'm not an avid creator I'm talking about when will the black broken glitches on shaders be fixed by VRChat itself

[sage hawk]

same bro 😭 im using this tutorial rn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-Obo_nC3SM

[craggy widget]

I don't know how to fix this error?

[craggy widget]

is there a chance you have parts of the armature lacking a mesh when you import it into unity?

[sage hawk]

how do you get this 'unity' to upload an avatar from blender?

[craggy widget]

To upload an avatar from blender you need to

1. Make sure it had an armature that is correctly weight painted
2. Import it as an FBX into unity with it’s texture’s (that includes any other things you wish to put on the model) and make sure you put the model to a humanoid rig
3. Have the VRC SDK in the package, you can either do this manually by dragging and dropping it or just starting the unity package IN the vrc sdk.

You’ll be prompted with things to fix in the vrc descriptor, if you need other help there are tutorials online to help with uploading

[somber sequoia]

there are many many basic avatar tutorials, such as this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwMz4WcajQ

[limpid cargo]

as we’ve explained, vrchat is NOT reversing this decision any time soon.
you’ll have to ask the creator of the avatar to fix it, but otherwise vrchat is not reversing this change. they fixed something that broke their t.o.s. i don’t know why that is so hard to understand

[sacred walrus]

so I made a post in here: https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1367682981774229534 for my avatar help if anyone could help id appreciate anyones time

[grizzled sigil]

So im trying to add 2 clothing toggles to a base I have and im struggling, Im using MA and got one outfit prefab to go on and off with a toggle but im trying to figure out how to make another so that when i click another outfit itll toggle the other outfit and remove the first one. Im not sure if that makes sense

[compact dust]

vrcf should work

[grizzled sigil]

I tried vrcf but it just kept adding the 2nd outfit over the first without removing it

[compact dust]

did you use the "untoggle" on the same toggle?

it should be (for example) smth like

Turn on Shirt 2
Turn on Shirt 2

Turn off Shirt 1
Turn off Shorts 1

[grizzled sigil]

Let me check rq and ill try it if i didnt

[grizzled sigil]

should they be on the same asset or the seperate ones per outfit?

[crisp trail]

anyone know possibly why my visemes wont work in game?

[compact dust]

doesnt matter what it's attached to i think

[grizzled sigil]

it pops up like this if I do the example you sent (unless I did it wrong )

[compact dust]

no it's right (to my knowledge) but i didnt remember if that was the right way to do it

Im not sure if vrcf can do it then

might have to do it the old way then

[grizzled sigil]

ahh fixed it! Id have to figure out how to do it more advanced (if i get another prefab on her)

[compact dust]

magic

[grizzled sigil]

but its where if i click the toggle it auto switches the two

tysm!!

radials are gonna be my next challenge when i get there

[limpid cargo]

goood luck

[grizzled sigil]

just did a test run and yeahh ill wait til I finish with clothes

[grim valley]

why is my imposter naked? i have it clothed when uploaded

[grizzled sigil]

do you perhaps know how to do the same thing with more clothing? like I have 2 prefabs currently and want to add another one and not sure how to change the vrcf to work for it

[hard vigil]

hello i need help with unity with a toogle pls if someone can help me out would be great thanks

[desert elk]

describe what problem you're having/what kind of toggle

[hard vigil]

soo i have a pc avi with a toogle and the quest version dose no have and would like to place it to work

[hard vigil]

. sorry forgot to reply

[left gull]

do they share the same FX layer,parameter list and menu?

[hard vigil]

yes

[left gull]

what type of toggle is it then, like what does it use/do?

[hard vigil]

dm

[left gull]

err no thanks, since its NSFW if you could just describe the general idea/setup then i could help but im not doing DMs or private calls :P

[hard vigil]

all good

[crisp tinsel]

stop wasting your time

https://shatteredfur.gumroad.com/l/vrctoggle

:3

it's free btw

[hard vigil]

thank for the help

your a real one

[crisp tinsel]

https://kurotu.github.io/VRCQuestTools/docs/intro/

[crisp tinsel]

no problem <3

[rocky charm]

yo!! im tryna do some whacky stuff in unity w/ avatar creation and i had a couple questions

the avatar im working on is 2D, a flat plane with animations

im trying to figure out how to
A) create idle, speaking, and walking states that loop between 2 simple frames when in those states
and
B) potentially create or use some kind of shader to create a "billboarding" effect, i.e. the sprite faces any and all viewers at any given time, at least in terms of horizontal rotation

[wide canyon]

Hey, weird question, but is it possible to have two separate "Head Chop" components that you can toggle on and off separately?

[pallid mirage]

Hello guys, could you help me with the dress on my avatar?

I separated the left and right sides and parented them to legs, so when i move a leg that side of the dress moves with it. However, since i don't want the middle part of the dress to move that much, i just position constrained it between the left and right sides.

And it causes some weird clipping to happen. I notice it mostly when i'm walking or cross my legs.
Is there a way to fix it? Or is there a better way to do what i'm trying to do?

[frigid glade]

https://youtu.be/kTYWWvWXJ4Q?si=wcT7IqL8nctn-o3a I follow this tutorial when it comes to skirts. It doesn’t work as well with different types of skirts and you can adjust it to your liking but on the whole this method works pretty well for me

[vocal cypress]

Is there any way I can make the entire cannon slide on the ground like a static object while still using a humanoid avatar?

kinda newbie on blender and unity so

[limpid cargo]

i feel bad that no one replied to you so i’m going to tryyy
but im pretty sure you can do that first one by making an animation of what it is you want and then messing with the base and locomotion layers
(assuming, because i added idle and walking states before but i was messing around)
speaking is generally done with visemes but there may be a way for you to still do what you want? i think i think

[desert elk]

I believe there's a way to disable leg movement, but currently I don't remember how

[vocal cypress]

I would really love to know especially because it looks horrid with the humanoid walking animation

i mean it's goofy but I want it to be realistic

thanks for helping anyway!

[drifting temple]

can I set custom fallback shaders for my avatar? as in, create a material that is only used when others haave my actual shaders disabled?

[ornate stump]

Yes. With shader that support custom fallback.

[drifting temple]

so if I make a material that can be used for fallback shaders, how do I sactualyl set it as my fallback shaders?

[ornate stump]

No. Keyword is "shader that support custom fallback".

That mean if it can customize fallback, the material would show custom fallback field for it.

[rocky charm]

yeah haha i think im realizing that this is more difficult than I previously thought. right now I'm just trying to find some way to use the animation controller to switch between to materials whenever x or y velocity is greater than zero

[drifting temple]

can I make a fallback shader with poiyomi?

[ornate stump]

With newer one yes.

[drifting temple]

NVM, I foudn the little field at the bottom for fallback shaders, thanks for clearing things up regardless

[limpid cargo]

it is definitely difficult, but i’m sure there are tools out there to help you
i used something called “wet cat locomotion fix” for my avatars and it was easy to change the idle and walking animations there because it is laid out easier,
so it’s not impossible, don’t give up ❤️

[rotund solstice]

Does anyone know if I can add butt bones onto the milltina model in unity or is it only thru blender?

[junior void]

You cannot add bones in unity.

[rotund solstice]

Aww okay. Thank you

[small valve]

How can you make such a fur?

He looks like it would be a FurMark-test, but the performance was actually really good.
How did he made such a fur without blowing up my PC?

The first thing I was thinking about after seeing such high fur details in VRC, was this thing here:

[junior void]

Its a fur shader. I know of poiyomi pro having it and warrens fur shader. There may be others i dont know of

[somber sequoia]

yes, though if they affect the same bones you may have to consider timing

[arctic ginkgo]

It should be only attached to the avatar or just the armature. If you need it to have bones like for moving the turret and stuff, give it separate bones, and the root bone shouldn't be parented to anything (like how the hip bone isn't parented to anything)

[balmy barn]

https://warrenwolfy.gumroad.com/l/atntv try the free one, seen others that murders your fps

v5 have locking , uv discard, decals and stuff

[wide canyon]

Great! They don't, just have some items I want to be able to toggle some items on/off without impacting others.

[somber sequoia]

That'll work great then

[half turtle]

Do you have to upload for iOS as well as PC and android to be able to use an avatar as a fallback?

[balmy barn]

I have fallbacks and never uploaded for ios

[half turtle]

I just did pc and android and I don't see an option to use any of mine as fallback and it's fallback ready 🤨

[balmy barn]

go back to android if its not ,should be a very small button somewhere for fallback , been awhile so im not sure

[desert elk]

make sure your platform is set to android first

[half turtle]

I definitely uploaded it with android selected in the vrchat sdk control panel window
^ platform as android

Ohhh, there was a button I missed that said upload as fallback on that window in the options

[somber sequoia]

ahhh, that'll do it

[half turtle]

Do I have to check that on both pc and android before uploading?

[somber sequoia]

iirc just once

[half turtle]

So I can just check it on android and it's good?

[somber sequoia]

you could try it and see

[half turtle]

It was correct 👍

How do I delete an avatar? I have an older one that is not as optimized that I'm pretty sure I'm not going to use.

[somber sequoia]

content manager tab in the SDK console or on the website

[half turtle]

Where on the site?

Ohhh you have to click the edit button on avatars on the site

Now I see a delete option

[split juniper]

Hello, I am making an avatar on a linux system. Unity has been working flawlessly on linux until I want to publish it. Where it says "security checks failed". Is it cause I am making the avatar on linux or can it be for other reasons?

[somber meadow]

As long as you're building for the Windows target, you're fine. Screenshot the performance ranks of this avatar

You can also check this article, https://help.vrchat.com/hc/en-us/articles/31264259544211-My-avatar-is-showing-Security-checks-failed

[desert elk]

other reasons most likely. Could be too high stats

[split juniper]

They are.. pretty terrible. Though the V1 version I had of it worked fine and passed the checks

[somber meadow]

It's bad, but doesn't look like it's security checks bad

scroll down and show more of the SDK's stats

[somber meadow]

It most likely could be bones

[somber sequoia]

I've been using Linux for this for years - there are no current issues.

oh - I see why that fails, that avatar is quite beyond Very Poor

[somber meadow]

Is there multiple outfits on this avatar? I'm assuming you're using Modular Avatar or VRCFury that merges them after build

[split juniper]

using Modular Avatar and there is currently 3 outfits

[somber sequoia]

IMO split this into 3 different avatars, each with one outfit

[split juniper]

worked before on the V1 version so I am confused why it doesn't work now

[somber meadow]

Is there a way to make a test/baked avatar to see the stats of that? I know it's simple with VRCFury

[split juniper]

Let me check

[split juniper]

seems to go up with that version

[somber meadow]

Specifically the VRCSDK stats

Thry's performance tool doesn't show much of what the security checks is looking for

[balmy barn]

waaay too high

how

thats not very poor that nuke from orbit avatar

[split juniper]

I am not planning on using this in public lobbies. More for photos I take with it so I don't mind it being high

[desert elk]

so make it 3 avatars

it would be way better trust

[split juniper]

It is the same as my v1 of the avatar as well just that this just uses 100% modular avatar instead of mixing modular avatar and vrcfury which is why I am confused about why it doesn't work now but worked before

[prisma thunder]

So, I recently joined my sweater and body as a single mesh, but the end of the sleeve usually goes over my hand, so it clips when I turn my hand now.
I just wanna attach the end part of that sleeve onto my hand bone, how would I do that?

[desert elk]

weight paint it?

[prisma thunder]

Ok so

Issue

I don't know anything about blender 😭

I don't even know what that means 🙏

[desert elk]

Google and YouTube tutorials are your friends

[prisma thunder]

Ugh

I told myself I'd never touch blender

[mental estuary]

Did your sweater have an armature before? How did you join your sweater and body?

[somber meadow]

the pipeline

[desert elk]

when I read "joined meshes" I assumed blender. Did you do it differently?

[prisma thunder]

Yes it did have an armature before, but when I use armature link in vrc fury, it had the same issue, which might be helpful here.
I just used Ctrl+j in blender

[prisma thunder]

No

I just don't wanna actually learn blender

But I gotta

[desert elk]

m

[prisma thunder]

So

[mental estuary]

If it had the same issue using Armature Link then the weight painting for the sweater was wrong to begin with

[barren wharf]

hey uh i deleted the eye bones for my avatar by mistake

how do i get my eyeballs back

[somber meadow]

ctrl + z

[barren wharf]

i can't

[desert elk]

blender. Add eye bone. Weight paint to the eye

[prisma thunder]

I could drag the sweater's hand bone onto my own hand, and it'd work just fine

[desert elk]

and parent it correctly to the head

[mental estuary]

If armature link wasn't already handling that then the bones were named differently

[prisma thunder]

That's what I figured

[mental estuary]

You can rename those bones to be the same as your avatar's bone names, or use multiple armature links

[prisma thunder]

Is it as simple as renaming the bones?

Damn

[somber meadow]

Was the clothes made for the base model you're using?

[prisma thunder]

Yes

[mental estuary]

Bones will be merged if they have matching names, as long as the hierarchy of the bones are the same

Sometimes asset creators will rename bones, which isn't ideal

[barren wharf]

shit is there a way to do it without blender?

[prisma thunder]

Oh? I had no clue!

[desert elk]

no. can't add bones in unity.

[prisma thunder]

That should fix all of my issues then, thanks!

[barren wharf]

shidddd

i unpacked my avi 😭

[desert elk]

that's why, you should never do that

🤷 set it up again or use pumpkin tools

[barren wharf]

how do i use pumpkin

[desert elk]

pumpkin tools

[prisma thunder]

Y'all are training the best avatar Optimizer ever
(I suck but at least my avatars ratings aren't blocked by anyone 🙏)

[barren wharf]

what option do i use once im in pumpkin?

[desert elk]

it's pretty self explanatory.

drag one avatar at the top the other at the bottom press copy

not rocket science

[prisma thunder]

How would I go about joining things like hair and tails?

Could I add the hair armature to the body, then join a duplicate of the hair to it?

[desert elk]

why a duplicate?

blender. Import model and hair, parent hair root bone to the head bone. Done
same with the hail, just parent it to the hips

[mental estuary]

Armature Link will parent bones when it finds it cannot merge, so it will have the effect you want

[prisma thunder]

Joining the skinned mesh I mean

[mental estuary]

If the hair already has an armature then you can merge in Blender by just merging it. As long as the bones are in the right place in the hierarchy it will work

[idle laurel]

does someone know an desctop firendly/Animated Gabriel (from Ultrakill) avi?

[desert elk]

#1138520828556890214

[winged bobcat]

hey, i generated an imposter for one of my avis and apparently the imposter version all the clothes disappeared, does anyone know how to fix this?

[mental estuary]

Are you using VRCFury?

[winged bobcat]

yep

[buoyant thorn]

Using contact receivers how do I make them permantently toggle something instead of turning on and off once leaving the proximity of the collider? I forgot after such a long time 😭

[mental estuary]

Enable "Default On" in the toggle's options

[winged bobcat]

tho one outfit uses modular avatar instead

the toggles turn off the clothes rather than enable them, i was told by someone that it was better to have them on and use toggles to turn off objects instead of turning them on cause it could cause problems, i dunno if that is actually the case tho

[mental estuary]

You should only ever really be using turn on toggles. Makes things a lot easier

Then you can either enable default on, or show when animator disabled if you only want them to show when someone isn't showing your avatar (or during imposter generation)

[winged bobcat]

is there a way to easily view the imposter other than having someone else look at it?

[night ember]

the avatar preview

[winged bobcat]

i think i might have seen the issue, the toggles for the different outfits to be enabled were all set to default on bc i forgot to turn it off except for one outfit

[night ember]

whatever the default state the avatar was uploaded in is what the imposter looks like

[vocal cypress]

you mean making the head part and the rest separated?

[arctic ginkgo]

?

i mean you should weight paint it to a bone that isn't parented to anything

[grizzled sigil]

so while trial and erroring how to make multiple outfit toggles, i did figure out radial toggles to change clothing colors so I will be taking that as a win.

if anyone has any ideas to how to fix the multiple outfit issue will gladly take any tips, otherwise ill keep on with my trial and error!

[somber sequoia]

what is the "multiple outfit issue"?

[craggy widget]

You can also do a radial toggle for clothes

[somber meadow]

Are you manually creating the toggles in an animator or using automated tools like VRCFury

[grizzled sigil]

im trying to make another toggle for outfit 3 and when i try using it the 2 first outfits stay under

[grizzled sigil]

vrcfury

[somber sequoia]

turn the first two off?

[mental estuary]

https://vrcfury.com/components/toggle#exclusive-tags

[somber meadow]

so when shirt 2 is on you want shirt 1 automatically off?

[grizzled sigil]

I have one toggle like that with 2 shirts but cant add a third to that toggle and the first 2 remains if i create a seperate toggle

[mental estuary]

Either use a VRCFury Toggle with a Flipbook Builder action. and set the Toggle to Use Slider in the options, or make multiple toggles and define an exclusive tag

[craggy widget]

That’s why I recommended the radial toggle, it helps and automatically switches the other clothing off when you use it.

Plus less toggles for you to have to deal with and make in the animator

[mental estuary]

They just said they're using VRCFury to create the toggles... Those are the 2 options

[grizzled sigil]

alright ill give this a try!

[craggy widget]

My apologies I don’t use vrcfury

[grizzled sigil]

making radial toggles by animator has been a a struggle even with tutorials so vrcf has been my best route

[mental estuary]

You'll want to use the flipbook builder action with use slider for that then
https://vrcfury.com/components/toggle#solution-2-create-a-slider

[craggy widget]

Funny enough it’s actually pretty simple, people just make it look complex. I learned it on my first go

[deep siren]

So - i have this issue where I have these slippers for this model right - and she has a seperate outfit with heels. By default, the heels blendshape is OFF - both in the animation and value and despite the heels not being active which is meant to activate the blendshape, her feet are just still poking through

[grizzled sigil]

yeah alot of friends have suggested videos and they made it feel 100x more complex for me since they speedrun through the process and i had no luck figuring it out lol

[desert elk]

yeah, most tutorials speedsrun because people don't have the attention span from what I noticed

plus they're more likely to click something that's 3 minutes long Vs 15 because 3 minutes seems easier, cause it's shorter

[desert elk]

is this outfit made for that model?

[deep siren]

Yes

[craggy widget]

Here hold on, you can watch the radial toggle tutorial from DwuckiesVR on YT. It’s super helpful.

[deep siren]

If I turn on the heels to be OFF by default, then when i toggle to the outfit, she won't be wearing shoes. But when her slippers are active, the heels blendshape has been set to 0, so im not sure why it's ignoring it

[desert elk]

I'd think it's some sort of sculpting not being correct, but since it's supposed to be for that model it should be correct

[grizzled sigil]

yeahh all the ones ive been sent are short or sped up and im not quick with learning that way and finding a in depth video always somehow involves me getting another package for unity to use so vrcf has been my go too sorta

[grizzled sigil]

ouh yes! ill check it out

[desert elk]

you don't need any packages for manual toggles

but yeah

idk, I haven't actually seen a lot of tutorials myself

[vocal cypress]

ohhhhh

now I understand

thanks!

[grizzled sigil]

yeahh idk i think i just found a bad batch of tuts i think

[desert elk]

unless you mean gesture manager or 3.0 emulator to preview the toggles

[grizzled sigil]

I alreadt have both already but I saw one with a package called vixon i think? or smth like that

[desert elk]

I've never heard of it

From the first look on Google it just seems to be the same/similar thing to vrcf

so not manual toggles

[north turtle]

I'm having trouble devising a system for this, so I'm tossing it out here in the hopes that someone else with a fresh perspective might have an idea I haven't thought of.

I'm trying to set up a pointer coming off of the hand of an avatar that can have its direction adjusted via two sliders: one for the horizontal rotation, and one for the vertical rotation. I initially just tried animating the X and Z rotation values of a Parent Constraint to adjust it, but when I did it that way, it'd move in strange arcs that made it unintuitive to control, due to the fact that rotating it on one axis throws off the other axis.

I ended up making some half-rings for each axis to help visualize where the pointer would move when adjusting its rotation, but I can't for the life of me get the pointer to consistently pass through the point where the two arcs intersect. At extreme angles, it always starts to drift off of one or both lines.

I've tried many different variations of Rotation Constraint shenanigans to get it to work, primarily focusing on having a separate object use the X rotation of one arc and the Z rotation of the other, but it keeps resulting in the drift-off-the-line issue.

Anyone have an idea for how they could ensure that a pointer beam would pass through the intersecting lines? x_x

[arctic ginkgo]

i'm working on trying to figure something out, i'm thinking an "offset constraint" setup should help

https://github.com/VRLabs/Offset-Constraint

[molten rampart]

trying to have it so the necklace moves up when the shirt is activated, however everytime i attempt it, the necklace doesnt budge
(what ive attempted was edit the toggle animation so that the necklace rotates upwards every time its activated but in testing, it stays where it is. but in the animation viewing in unity, it does move.)
any tips?

[arctic ginkgo]

if you are rotating a skinned mesh, that won't work. If you are rotating a physbone affected transform, make sure the physbone component has "is animated" enabled at the bottom

[molten rampart]

i was rotating the bone
necklace 1 has a physbone and necklace collider is .. well the collider lol
and i was rotating the highlighted one

so would that still apply?

[arctic ginkgo]

idk

not enough information

is it affected by the physbone?

[molten rampart]

ill give it a go and see
and im not sure what u mean by that, im a lil slow loll

[arctic ginkgo]

I got something working this way, you just need a couple of animations and some logic to get it working. You cannot rotate both axes at once this way jsyk

[grizzled sigil]

this worked! I will still be looking at how to use animator ao I can learn but ty!! This is my first time making a custom avi for myself so im learning steo by step lol

[mental estuary]

Learning how things work is always a good thing, but using the available tools to the best of their abilities is definitely recommended as well. A good balance is always needed

[north turtle]

Can't rotate them both at once as in, can't actively have the radial wheel menu open for both of them at the same time? Or as in, they can't both have their own offsets? :x

[arctic ginkgo]

you can't adjust their rotation simultaniously

the idea is that you have an "active" axis, and the inactive axis is parented to the active one with a parent constraint while not being rotated

to keep its rotation when switching which one is "active", you use the "offset constraint" setup

then your pointer will have two rotation constraints, each with a different axis solely frozen, and the respective "axis" transform as its source

then you just need to animate a toggle that switches which parent constraints are active/inactive based on which is moving

[north turtle]

Hm... I think I understand how that works. I'll keep it in mind as an option, though I also need to ensure that it's something that can be reached again automatically with saved parameters. I might be able to just apply those saved parameters in sequence as though it were being actively controlled, I suppose. o.o Thanks!

[steel seal]

Is there way to make avatar not load in public/group public worlds?

VRCSDK on unix, i pressed upload and its doing multi-upload again and again for i think half of hour now, how can i stop it? Is it ok if i just “stop process”?

Ps: fixed, i just needed to “cancel upload”, still no idea what caused it btw

[arctic ginkgo]

this is a bug that i've seen numerous people report on, and i've experienced as well

[steel seal]

Ohhh

[steel seal]

Btw is it unix only or appears on windows too? And is it dependent to unity on external drive

[arctic ginkgo]

idk if the other people i've seen report were on windows, but I've experienced it on mac

[broken lion]

dm me i need help with avi

[sweet iron]

is using someone elses model as a base scummy if i credit them?

[round comet]

State the issue in the chat as people are more likely to help

[broken lion]

idk what the ishu is it is undescribable i

[somber sequoia]

going to be very difficult for someone to help then

[broken lion]

i would leve stream the issu

[arctic ginkgo]

Where/how did you obtain the model?
Does the model have a license that you can refer to for use?
Did the creator give you permission to use the model?

[somber sequoia]

again, you are way more likely to get help if you can explain it in text

[sweet iron]

i got it off of sketch fab
no
and no

i'd love to ask permission but its such a common model (the old cartoony adam murray model from mandela, the fnf one.) that i dont even know who uploaded it

i think i found the creators page but i have no idea how to contact them

[broken lion]

umm my toggles wont work my camera position is not my head that is the bet i ca desribe

[arctic ginkgo]

can you send the sketchfab link?

[somber sequoia]

Did you set your view point correctly? And you don't have an extra camera on the avatar?

[sweet iron]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/old-adam-murray-dc9b80ab873e46dc947c2dc9fe6db555

[broken lion]

it is a base by radeus

[sweet iron]

the model was taken down so i got it off someone who reuploaded it

heres the original upload https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/funkdela-vol-1-vol-2-extras-d22adb8b716c4cfc818a595d62139caf

[arctic ginkgo]

all sketchfab models have a license you just need to look

[sweet iron]

oh, alright.

[arctic ginkgo]

this license means you can repurpose the model in any way you'd like, as long as you give credit to the author

[sweet iron]

ok nice

thank you for the help

[arctic ginkgo]

although the description for this model does say "not mine"

not much you can do there though since it doesn't look like they credit the original author

https://x.com/nxxi3d

this may be the original artist but i'm not sure

[sweet iron]

they havent posted in a long while

a whole 3 years

[arctic ginkgo]

based on the other sketchfab model's description from this author, it looks like the original modeller had a google drive that no longer works

and that had the models free to download

i'm making assumptions based on what info i can find

it seems like you're in the clear

[sweet iron]

alright thanks man

[somber sequoia]

don't ask to ask, just ask your questions

[finite wren]

oh ok

can anyone help me with my avatar? i want it so i can enable a table right in front of me and leave it there in place. How do i do that?

[somber sequoia]

You can use a constraint, probably VRC Parent Constraint, and tick the "freeze to world" checkbox when you want it to stay put

[finite wren]

do i need to put it in my parameters?

and where do i put it in my avatar?

[somber sequoia]

read: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/constraints/

[finite wren]

how do i activate it?

[somber sequoia]

depends on what you mean by "activate"

[finite wren]

in the menu

[somber sequoia]

you'd need to make a toggle for that if that's what you want

[finite wren]

yeah

i did already

is there a YT video i can watch?

[somber sequoia]

for this constraint specifically? I have no idea, haven't looked

[finite wren]

i'm looking

don't worry

[surreal salmon]

how does one fix "this avatar uses visemes but the face mesh not specified"

[somber sequoia]

drag the mesh with the face into the appropriate slot in the avatar descriptor

[surreal salmon]

thanks

[torn trellis]

ok so i have this model and i can not for the life of me get the face tracking to work can someone plz help me? https://lividlily.gumroad.com/l/Diana?layout=profile

[steel seal]

Btw are you using ALCOM?
I assume this issue can happen due to ram-swap dependency, at least its happened to me only once in two years 😅

[magic yarrow]

why is my lunabeast still stuck with blacked-out ears after applying the texture that include the ears?

I have 2 sets of textures, one for the novabeast, and one for the lunabeast. The novabeast one includes the ears, but not the lunabeast one.

Whenever I apply the novabeast texture to the ears in edit mode, the main body still has the luna texture, but when i go into play mode, the nova texture on the ears immediately gets overwritten by the luna texture, causing the ears to black out

[somber sequoia]

that sounds like a material swap animation

[magic yarrow]

how can i resolve it?

i haven't worked with animation swaps before

[arctic ginkgo]

Yes, I am using alcom

[somber sequoia]

find what animation is doing the swap and change it how you want it to be. Best I could do without understanding your project is is general directions

[magic yarrow]

I have no idea of knowing what animation is doing what

[somber sequoia]

you could disable each layer then turn them on one by one until you find it

maybe the layer is named something obvious

[magic yarrow]

in the hiearchy? or an animation thing?

[somber sequoia]

in the animator

[magic yarrow]

okay

[charred epoch]

I am trying to set up an animation that turns on the emissions for a material that is used by multiple meshes, but it seems that the animation is not working properly when i preview it or test it in play mode

[magic yarrow]

idk what im doing ;-;

[somber sequoia]

I thought that when you animate a material's properties it's actually the mesh renderer's material's property, not shared between all mesh renderers. I know doing this with U# or C# you can do either one but by default it's "local"

[charred epoch]

If i manually turn on the emissions for the material, it works on all meshes using it, but when i am trying to use an animation, it does't even work for the mesh that the animation is using

[somber sequoia]

What exactly did you animate though? A mesh's material's property?

that should animate just that material in that slot

technically regardless of what specific material is in the slot

[charred epoch]

This is the animation, the top four work perfectly, but the bottom four is what i am having trouble with, like it is not even working on that specific mesh either

[magic yarrow]

i drag and drop the ear texture to the ears in either edit or play mode, but every time i enter play mode again, the ears black out and the correct texture is overwritten

i don't know where to look in an animations thing to fix this

im getting extremely frustrated

[grizzled sigil]

was wondering if anyone might know why my metals are appearing black? Im using poiyomi like it sayys so idk

[somber sequoia]

Are you in a toon (flat, ramped, etc) shading mode? you probably need realistic for that to work well

[rocky grail]

I made my first booth and I put all the booth related stuff attached to it and apparently my imposter shows me naked but not on pc how do you fix that

[grizzled sigil]

gonna be completely honest, I have no idea what shading mode its in. Where can I check?

[somber sequoia]

https://www.poiyomi.com/shading/main#lighting-type

[vagrant crater]

so the avi is havin issues with the hands idk why when i enforce the t pose it breaks the fingers and then dose not apply after im done

[spice sable]

oh wait wrong channel

[ember blade]

Chat which chrome design do we like for Chromeo?

Aluminum, smokey, or crystal?

[oak bone]

last feels like chrome the most

[left gull]

3rd one for sure

[crimson pendant]

What would cause the transforms of the hips, spine, chest, upper chest, and neck to all be in the same place?

the head transform too, apparently

worth noting, it's not like this in the avatar config view

they're actually in the correct positions there

[vagrant crater]

still need help

[crimson pendant]

it's even more off in play mode

[desert elk]

is your hierarchy correct? are the bones correctly assigned?

[vagrant crater]

yes

[sharp quartz]

I am trying to recale my avatars height proportions to better match mine (I am 4'10) I followed 2 tutorials to the T but find that when I upload the FBX into unity and override the current one, it completely breaks the avatar. Is there any way to fix this or does anyone know an updated version to fix the height proportions? The tuts I followed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sfTEBAl8sA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGc0if7dSWA&t=1s

The first image is before I change the fbx or anything and the second is what happens when I do. Any help is much appreciated! ❤️

[desert elk]

Don't ask for DMs you'll get a ton of scammers - not good.
did you export it with the same settings as the first time?

[nocturne tendon]

i need help in #avatar-rigging

[sharp quartz]

Oh- Sorry I am very new to this server 😭 I believe so? I don't have much experience in blender/unity I am kind of self teaching rn.. I just took the FBX file out of unity and put it into blender

[desert elk]

so you probably didn't

re-export it again, this time set the scaling to FBX All and see if that helps

weird things can happen if you export with different settings

although I've never seen that, but it's good to check

[sharp quartz]

FBX all?

[desert elk]

ye

[sharp quartz]

Fixed it tysm for your help!

[fierce thunder]

i saw an avi using particles to emit light on quest, how do i recreate that since normal lights dont work on quest? or can someone link me to a prefab using that method

[desert elk]

Emissions are the only way you can achieve a light-like effect. It's not gonna light up anything though.

[drifting temple]

can I parent something to the View position? I have an overlay for my avatars view, but can't figure out how to make it stable. Also, if you know a simple way to make it so it's only visible in first person,. I'd like to know how

[ornate stump]

Make it local is to make transition condition with IsLocal parameter.

[drifting temple]

You're really guiding me through the whole process I see 😭 thanks so much

[royal folio]

hey yall, anyone know what's up with this? changing settings doesn't seem to be it. also changed the image between Point and Bilinear but the difference was that it's either pixelated or blurry. is it the image size? it's 74x123 pixels but it doesn't make sense that they'd scale it down further and then scale it back up. i'm stumped here...

or maybe it is my settings. i'm just now realizing every other avatar i have also has reduced texture quality. but idk which one it is, there's really only one section for graphics

[timber wharf]

try disabling mipmapping

for the texture

vrchat will use lower mipmap version when youre low on vram

tho im not sure if it will do that for your own avi

[fervent spear]

hey guys what does this mean? ive never gotten this before

[timber wharf]

@royal folio ah and also resize vertical to 128, cause it goes 64 otherwise

[royal folio]

wdym vertical?

[timber wharf]

@fervent spear just click fix. it makes every mesh to use same point to apply lightprobes

@royal folio image height

[fervent spear]

alr thankyouu

[royal folio]

like the actual pixels of the image? ight, also where'd you get this info btw? is it just powers of 2?

[timber wharf]

@royal folio yes, gpu only uses textures with powers of 2, it cant work with 73 or 123. so unity scales it down to nearest one

[royal folio]

interesting

what about the width tho?

[timber wharf]

64, sounds fine

well ofc you can make it into square as well

[royal folio]

yeah 64 squishes it, so ig 128x128 then

[wicked fulcrum]

Quick question does anyone know how i could do this low framerate thing ?

[royal folio]

alright that works lol. thanks!
also disabled mipmaps, dunno how huge of a difference mipmaps made compared to just upscaling to a power of 2 tho

[timber wharf]

i mean, it didnt look even like 64x64, more like 32. and about mipmaps i was making guesses about why all the avis may look low res.

[wind skiff]

Doesn't it just depend on camera distance

[woeful wren]

anyone know how to setting the arm so its not really close to the body?

[blazing marlin]

Anyone have a YouTube tutorial or forum they can send me of how to set up a gun reload system for an avatar weapon?

[desert elk]

like on desktop during the idle position?

GoGoLoco can change the position of the arms, if you have it on your avatar

if that's what you meant

[woeful wren]

im not sure where the setting, but my body is too big so the arm and hand is inside it. if only i could use wheel to move the arm

[desert elk]

it's not a wheel, but toggles. Default wide and wider

I don't remember where it is specifically but if you mess with GoGoLoco settings you'll find it

and you can set the default to be wider in parameters so you don't need to click it every time

I used that for my avatar before

[woeful wren]

hmm, ill try it. because sometime ago i found avatar that can rotate the arm with wheel, so i wonder how to make that

[desert elk]

I guess animating the shoulder bone position

[woeful wren]

i found model with the gogoloco, its possibe posing animation with wheel. i wonder how to make that

[desert elk]

my answer is still the same

[timber wharf]

@wind skiff no, for like half a year it supposed to unload highest levels from memory, when short.

[lofty gate]

Hi all, I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, I am extremely new to 3d and vrchat as well. Extent of my knowledge is editing an existing base and recoloring existing textures. I have an avatar I'd like to add clothes to but I'd have to model them and texture them myself and then add the meshes to the base, and then probably rig it I assume? is this something that can even be done?

[desert elk]

of course it can be done

you'd probably wanna do it in Blender

[lofty gate]

Do I need any extra programs to texture that or can that also be done directly in blender?

[desert elk]

I do outlines of what I want in blender and export it to IbisPaint X to make it pretty.
some people texture things in Substance Painter

[limpid cargo]

found fellow ibispaint x user in the wild

[desert elk]

it's free!

[somber sequoia]

you can do textures in Blender but it's not great. If you must, there are some decent add-ons to help, such as ucuPaint

[limpid cargo]

i’ve been using it since 2018 💦💦

i dont think i can try another app…

[desert elk]

same

i tried sketchbook (?) but I'm too used to ibispaint

can't switch

[versed briar]

Hi can someone help me figure out how to use my own drawing to make my vtuber model

[wind skiff]

isn't that just a side effect of streaming mips now?

i don't know if it does this on purpose as well, that would be cool

[indigo canopy]

Yes sure it can be done

[indigo canopy]

Yes I can explain

[desert elk]

it's a VRChat server? not a VTuber server.

[timid terrace]

It's most probably a scammer

[desert elk]

ye

that's what I thought too

[timid terrace]

The George guy

100%

[desert elk]

ye

[quiet tree]

okay someone explain like im 5 bc im brand new to unity and vrc in general lol

I know how to upload the avatar and stuff thats not the issue, im trying to add extra animations to the avatar that i can toggle and all the tutorials ive found either expect you to know what you're doing already and/or have different files bc they arent using the same avi as me

I'm using the avatars I've gotten from cupkake's store so I should be able to do the same process for each one since theyre all set up similarly and have gogo loco in them already

note: i dont have gesture manager installed to the program bc it keeps giving me errors when i select it and go to start the project and idk how to fix that either

[arctic ginkgo]

each bone has a parent constraint with "world freeze" enabled and then there's an animation that turns it on and off at a set framerate

[sage hawk]

do we install this?

[somber sequoia]

You cannot use that version of Unity for VRChat.

[desert elk]

it needs to be 2022.3.22f1

[sage hawk]

heck i tapped no how do we download that one?

[ornate stump]

Via VCC

[sage hawk]

idk what that is i need links

[desert elk]

or the unity website

[balmy barn]

https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.22 | hub / manual or vcc

[desert elk]

yup

[ornate stump]

You wou;d find lot of links here https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495

[indigo canopy]

No worries! Since you're using Cupkake's avatars with Gogo Loco, the process should be consistent across them. To add toggleable animations, you'll need to use Unity's FX layer and add your animations there. Then, update the Expression Parameters and Expression Menu to create a toggle.

[vagrant crater]

so just trouble shot this issue i was adding this head to the model by just bone it to the neck with the current head rig well it seems when i do this it breaks the fingers which breaks the model so how should i apply the head to the rest of the model

[quiet tree]

is that in the vrc cc? or in unity?

[desert elk]

VCC is only for creating the project and adding some packages to it

everything else is done in unity

[desert elk]

make sure you have all of the required bones and try to enforce tpose

[vagrant crater]

i do that and then it tells me theres still a issue

[desert elk]

well what's the issue?

[desert elk]

you will need to fix it

[vagrant crater]

no kidding haha

[desert elk]

how manu armatures do you have?

[vagrant crater]

theres two a head and the body

[desert elk]

why?

[vagrant crater]

because i added a head to a body

[desert elk]

why can't you just combine it in blender? it's save you a headache

[vagrant crater]

wdym

[desert elk]

that's probably why you're having issues

[glass solar]

anyone know why the particles still rotate but dont move in world simulation space, I dont want it to rotate

[desert elk]

you can't have a bone named the same thing as a mesh, so make sure that's not the case

[vagrant crater]

i tried boneing them together i tried deforms and it still gives this issue ive dodne it like this before and it works

ok

[indigo canopy]

That part is done in Unity! You’ll be editing the FX layer in the Animator, and then updating the Expression Parameters and Expression Menu in the avatar's descriptor (still in Unity). The VRC CC (creator companion) just helps set up the project—most of the customization happens in Unity itself.

[desert elk]

i said that already :)