avatar-help

[limpid cargo]

edit the animation and make the second keyframe farther away

[somber sequoia]

that's really cheap for fully custom

[limpid cargo]

for... a minecraft steve?

[left gull]

yeah?

[spark walrus]

not a minecraft steve...steve irwin..

[limpid cargo]

OH

[spark walrus]

me

[limpid cargo]

oh yeah youre definitely paying a lot

[spark walrus]

fuckadoodledoo

[left gull]

anything 100% custom done is gonna get costly no matter the character

[limpid cargo]

minecraft steve is literally subdivided cubes, thats insane to charge hundreds of euro for that

[spark walrus]

Real

[glass condor]

so uhh

the creator is on Furraffinity, which doesn't allow for account creation anymore 😦

I think I'm screwed

[limpid cargo]

find their other socials then

and explain that you couldnt contact them there

emphasis on explaining that first...

[left gull]

err it depends on if its a fully setup model or just for the .fbx + any extra toggles, the texture work, if they're uploading it for you or not etc, if it was just for a model no textures,rig,unity work etc then yeah overpriced but otherwise seemingly pretty standard

[limpid cargo]

ah, i don't know
ive never sold my avatars, and people i have seen selling commissions never charge over 100 euro even with multiple toggles
so i guess i could be wrong.

[glass condor]

I'm pretty sure there's free Minecraft rigs for blender, anyone who charges that much is ripping ppl off lol

[limpid cargo]

thats what i thought 😅
but i didnt know about minecraft rigs for blender... interesting

[left gull]

those are generally just asset/kitbashes where they take existing content and either heavily/slightly edit them to work together on the model, not to mention with stuff like minecraft/roblox rigs they generally need custom locomotion and such to move like how they would in-game

[glass condor]

I checked, all inactive since...2023 😭

[limpid cargo]

oh my days

[glass condor]

So, I guess I just have to ask for any ideas on any common issues this could be 😅

[limpid cargo]

that is true. 100% custom assets for vrchat is tiring.
i make my own clothes sometimes and that alone is annoying

[left gull]

(also fyi alot of the rigs available for minecraft ive seen are just direct gamerips of the playermodel which wouldnt be allowed in-game as vrchat doesn't support pirated content :P )

[limpid cargo]

for normal avatars, i dont think its unreasonable at all

[limpid cargo]

even if its made from scratch, that is not hard to make because the minecraft rig is so simple

[somber sequoia]

you probably want a VRChat-compatible rig though

(I have no idea what Minecraft content looks like)

[arctic ginkgo]

For blocky characters like minecraft and roblox I recommend using constraints for the rig

Arms for example, you should have them parented to the upper arm, aim constraint to the hand, and then set the world up to object rotation up and use the X or Z axis as up for both of them, set the world up object to the hand

Then it will point at your hand, be attached to your torso, and twist with your hand

[wide canyon]

I've got an outfit for my avatar that didn't come with any textures. Anyone know a good tutorial to learn how to make textures for clothes that don't have them?

[wet oar]

how would one connect a seperated head to a body..

[proper storm]

What did you even do

did you try swapping them or smth

[wet oar]

have zero clue

this happens in unity

i dont have a clue how to merge object in unity without completely destroying the shaders

[glass condor]

Guys, i purchased an avi off of gumroad, but when i upload it to Build and Test, it shows up as the creator's watermark? What is even happening??? Please help. It's supposed to look like the third picture.

*first pic

[wet oar]

pretty scummy to add that for a paid avi

[limpid cargo]

this looks like the head isn’t weighted to the head bone

or some sort of weighting issue

[glass condor]

the watermark? Yeah there's a whole TOS about not removing it. Unless there's another feature I don't know about

TOS from the creator I mean

[wet oar]

seems like removing it is possible tho

but if you rather follow tos

thats fair

[glass condor]

it's easy, but considering that's the only thing I can see on the avi

I don't think I want to remove it

[lucid orchid]

Hii.., can I ask for help or is that not allowed yet?

[daring lark]

Looking to see if someone is willing to collaborate with me, I can make vroid avatars I just need someone to optimize and upload, definitely can make you a custom one too

[limpid cargo]

what does this even mean 😭

[worn birch]

No idea where'd this goes.

How do i make my own avatar?
Like are there any servers i could use to make one?
Or do i gotta go through a whole process?

I know i can commission but rn broke in terms of spending money

[limpid cargo]

i’d recommend visiting websites like jinxxy, booth, and gumroad for assets

and youtube tutorials / the internet search is your best friend :)

and of course we are here for small problems you have along the way

[worn birch]

Alrighty thank you

[lucid orchid]

Basically, I need someone to send me their own clips using any VRChat character doing a dance or something because I'm going to make memes :py I like editing. But my PC isn't working, so I'm asking for help.

And if you ask, nope, I don't have any friends who have VRChat, that's why I'm looking for it.

[limpid cargo]

but you didn’t ask that-
okay well i’d recommend asking for that in #vrchat-general-1 #vrchat-general-2 or #general-media

[lucid orchid]

Well, thanks. But I don't like being mean, that's why I'm asking.

[limpid cargo]

why did they just give u a thumbs down wtf 😭 so mean

[limpid cargo]

i don’t see anything mean about just asking for some clips. go for it

[lucid orchid]

Well, I've literally been searching for a month... yes, some people told me "Why are you asking? Don't you have any friends?" Hmm, sometimes that's annoying.

[limpid cargo]

well then those people aren’t very considerate 🤷🏻‍♀️

but anyways. let’s wrap this up here because this is an avatar help channel and we shouldn’t be off topic 😊

[lucid orchid]

It's okay thanks you ^^"

[steady anvil]

You’re not the only one having that issue

[true meteor]

can someone help me fix my avi it wont stop flotingp

floting,

[median glade]

Recently bought a model, and in the project area are variations, i click to apply them and it seems to change the model, but the vrchat sdk still sees the base model with no changes

Tried playspace mover jacob, or resetting your floor

[crisp tinsel]

are you attaching stuff to the avatar and not the scene?

[median glade]

scene shows the update game tab does not

[crisp tinsel]

of course the scene sees the update

can you send a screenshot of ur unity?

[median glade]

https://prnt.sc/qduRdwkEX3DJ

[crisp tinsel]

exit prefab view

[median glade]

not unity literate at all

[crisp tinsel]

get out of this

go back to scene

[median glade]

https://prnt.sc/cy4AWPoRcHo8

[crisp tinsel]

me when ^c doesnt work

oh variations

[median glade]

is this something more involved than apply variation does it take legitamate knowledge to use?

[crisp tinsel]

delete K001, put K006 in there and set it up

from the scene

[median glade]

what do you mean by set it up

[crisp tinsel]

ur VRCAvatarDescriptor unless its already set up

[median glade]

hmm that shows nothing in the scene now

[crisp tinsel]

right

send screenshot?

[median glade]

https://prnt.sc/najxcC8HNjwL

[crisp tinsel]

click this itll make things easier

but thats the SDK

ur descriptor is in the Inspector

[lucid orchid]

Hi, I sent you a message, I wanted to tell you something bro.

[median glade]

Okay think I might have need to alter scene though as there are a bunch of added notes for helping setup avatar

[crisp tinsel]

ur unity should look like this

not like this

dont double click

[median glade]

attempting an upload

[crisp tinsel]

also chat i need more stuff for manuka give me stuff to buy

[median glade]

Excellent that has worked, thank you very much!

[crisp tinsel]

you're welcome!

[median glade]

Now I just need to learn adding objects and custom triggers and I too will be able to hit things with a pan

[crisp tinsel]

wdym custom triggers

[median glade]

well this one allready has a thing where a fist behind the back summons a mallet.

just need to work on generally learning that kind of stuff

[crisp tinsel]

https://shatteredfur.gumroad.com/l/vrctoggle
this is a godsend

but it doesnt do gesture toggles, iunno how to do that yet

[median glade]

I might just stick to menu toggles

and learning to add custom screens to the visor. that will be way later

[crisp tinsel]

That's what I've done, cus I really don't wanna deal with... whatever the fuck this is

[crisp tinsel]

ooo visor? show

[median glade]

that actually seems simpler

[crisp tinsel]

oh you wish...

these things get complex, fast

[median glade]

you can see it here, the area where the eyes is,

https://prnt.sc/cy4AWPoRcHo8

[crisp tinsel]

im talkin like

[crisp tinsel]

ohh texture toggles? theres a video for it somewhere

is it a mesh or a texture

[median glade]

I think it might be an animation

[crisp tinsel]

thats how its done yea

[median glade]

hmmm clicked on one of them brought up dozens and dozens of variables.. not a fan of that

[crisp tinsel]

:3

welcome to the rabbit hole

[median glade]

hopefully printing over the nametag will be easier

[crisp tinsel]

oo wdym?

[median glade]

just being able to change it to a meme or something

https://prnt.sc/-2N6sH3Elcg7

can't quite figure out how it's displaying what it is

[crisp tinsel]

wish i could help a bit more, its def a texture

[median glade]

textures are forbidden magic

found where it's sitting at least

again thanks for the help heading off

[crisp tinsel]

no problem!

[frail temple]

Is there an easy way to change the speed of an animation for an emote toggle?

using VRCFury btw

[somber sequoia]

without fury? of course. with? uhh...

[frail temple]

I just have to edit the original animation clip if i am using VRCfury right? that's simple... Right???

[somber sequoia]

clips are clips

but sure, you could do it that way too

[ripe pond]

Guys... how do I fix this

[somber sequoia]

listen to that yellow one. But otherwise, did you install the android dev stuff?

[ripe pond]

wait I need adb?

[crisp tinsel]

no

[somber sequoia]

that error suggests you do

[ripe pond]

that odd It work litery this morning why is it not working now?

[somber sequoia]

what changed?

[crisp tinsel]

there should be an option to install android build support

[somber sequoia]

yep

[ripe pond]

another fbx and unitypacket added

[frail temple]

What's the method to do that? if you don't mind me asking

[somber sequoia]

... edit the clip?

[ripe pond]

also ti give this error as well

[clear sonnet]

I have a problem with the hand gestures on my avatars. I made multiple sets of face expressions, and I got that all to work fine. However, when I made custom hand gesture sets to match (mostly swapping out the rock and roll gesture for either heart hands or middle finger depending on which fits the face expression) only the right hand works! Now the left hand doesn't do gestures at all. I think it has something to do with the "Face" parameter being the only parameter to trigger both hands, but I'm not sure how to fix... (screenshots should hopefully explain this better)

[crisp tinsel]

Weird how this just... stopped working

I've never needed ADB

[ripe pond]

I use buld and test mode is that what cause it?

[somber sequoia]

got "transition to self" on any of those? turn it off. Otherwise, that doesn't look unreasonable, though all I can see is when Face is 0

[frail temple]

CTRL + A all the keyframes and just drag it to the left until half of the animation time is gone? nothing's gonna get disintegrated with this method?

[somber sequoia]

I'm pretty sure that comes along with the android SDK

[crisp tinsel]

It should

But again, they added packages and now shit's just missing

[somber sequoia]

I'm sure there are lots of videos about editing animations. Yes, you could move the keyframes, that will just delay when they happen. If that's what you want, cool.

[frail temple]

It worked!! sick!!

[clear sonnet]

"transition to self" is automatically ticked on all of them. I will try turning them all off and see if that changes anything.

[somber sequoia]

that should definitely be off

[ripe pond]

btw do I need to use botton or toggle expression ctrl to eneable hand gesture controll using expression controll?

[somber sequoia]

do you know the difference?

[ripe pond]

well botton act as a botton aka if statement, while toggles act as a while loop ststsment like a lever

[somber sequoia]

... that is not at all how I'd describe it.

[crisp tinsel]

made sense to me

[ripe pond]

yeah, Just look at the document pratacicaly close enough though

[clear sonnet]

Yeah, this did not work at all. Now it just loops all freaky like.

[somber sequoia]

means you have other issues still, I didn't say this was the full solution

watch where it loops and figure out why it's doing that

[ripe pond]

that odd when I tested out I got opposite probem it doesn't loop at all it just end as soon as I press it

[clear sonnet]

The animations are only one frame, so it's not like its stopping in the middle or anything. It's just endlessly transitioning between the chosen gesture and the idle gesture.

[somber sequoia]

then your conditions are probably wrong

[clear sonnet]

How do I know what they should be?

[somber sequoia]

it should stay so long as the condition remains met

well when do you want it to transition?

[clear sonnet]

It is a gesture. I want it to transition when I change my hand gesture or press the button to change it. And I want it to stay as long as it is held. You know, the way hand/face gestures usually work.

[somber sequoia]

so put those conditions in the animator

an "or" is two separate transitions though. "and" is a single one, all conditions listed must be met for it to transition

[clear sonnet]

This does not make sense. "GestureRight" and "GestureLeft" *are the parameters being used by default. All I did was add an extra parameter for my different sets.

[somber sequoia]

wait, are you using sub states with an anystate setup? I don't think that's going to do what you expect

[clear sonnet]

That's the only way it seemed to work. Dunno how to make it do anything different.

[somber sequoia]

I guess I'm not really sure how this is setup, but I wouldn't use anystate for this.

[clear sonnet]

What other options are there?

[somber sequoia]

uh, everything else the animator can do?

[clear sonnet]

🤦

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what you were looking for there

[clear sonnet]

Refer back to "dunno how to make it do anything different"

[somber sequoia]

okay

[clear sonnet]

It's not like examples of other setups are easy to search for unless you know exactly what you're looking for.

Which I don't.

[somber sequoia]

I don't really know what to suggest you search for

[clear sonnet]

How does using "any state" to transition between sub states work differently that using "any state" to transition between regular states? I'm using it the same way I did my props (an int parameter making each one mutually exclusive) and of course the interior of the sub state is the same as any other hand gesture setup with an extra parameter.

[ripe pond]

btw should deafult face mood look like this?

[clear sonnet]

You trying to set up facial expression tied to hand gestures?

[ripe pond]

symilar I want to set up facal expression as a menu item ie via toggle or 2-Axis Puppets

[hallow sable]

Anyone know why this blendshape for the mouth gets stuck after doing a gesture? I don't work with gestures or animations or anything like that, so I have no idea how to fix this

[left gull]

Do you have mixed write defaults?

[hallow sable]

How do I check that?

[left gull]

err i think the quickest way to check would be if you have any warning signs in your upload panel about it

[hallow sable]

Uhh I mean any of this look concerning? I don't really know what these mean either tbh

[left gull]

not sure what those messages really mean nor is that what i was directing you to as thats the console not the upload panel :P

[hallow sable]

oh oops

[left gull]

if you do have mixed WD and your sure the model doesnt require them to be mixed for some reason you could use AV3 iirc to turn all of em on and it should fix the overlapping (though id save before doing that incase it doesnt so you can easily go back to before you made any changes)

[hallow sable]

alright ill look

[hallow sable]

yep, turned all of them on and it's fixed

didn't cause issues with any other part of the avatar either
i appreciate the help

[quiet sinew]

could anyone help with this?

ive been having trouble with it for the past few days and ive looked up tons of tutorials and stuff on it i just need to know how to get past this one hump and i'll be good after the fact

[ornate stump]

You had a mesh and a bone with the same name "Head". You have to change the name in blender.

[quiet sinew]

I can't seem to find where the mesh that says "head"

[desert elk]

why do you have two armatures is my question?

[ornate stump]

It's rather the another armature with the same bone name,

[quiet sinew]

do i need to merge them together?

[desert elk]

I use the unofficial cats plug in to attach everything together, you could also do it manually

no need for the hair to be a separate armature

[ornate stump]

Better yes.

[quiet sinew]

got it

[quiet sinew]

okay

it worked! oh my gosh thank you so much you guys don't know how long i've been looking for this solution, thank you thank you thank you!!!

[queen verge]

I've created an avatar, and on Pc and Quest the saved state of the avatar and its toggles/sliders are different between the two. Does this mean that other platforms are seeing my avatar in separate states based on what platform they are in? Or is the state of my avatar just dependant on what platform i'm using it on?

All ive done to differenciate the two is change the glowing mats from standard to standard lite

[ornate stump]

A platform can only see content built for that platform. It will load whatever package your avatar is built for the platform.

[timber wharf]

@queen verge to have the same states use the same exact avatar parameters file/asset, even if some of them are useless on quest. menu and animators can be different.

[gray fractal]

Where do I go from here?

[glass condor]

Guys, i purchased an avi off of gumroad, but when i upload it to Build and Test, it shows up as the creator's watermark? What is even happening??? Please help. It's supposed to look like the third picture.

I'm getting desperate for help, any suggestions?

[pulsar marsh]

does this happen to your guys' avatar? I move the view ball forward and it doesnt actually help

[unkempt canopy]

why is my quest avi invisible and they cant hear me

been a reoccuring issue seems completely random too

[oak bone]

Are your arms super short? Move it backwards, in that case

[void kettle]

Bump 😦

[pulsar marsh]

They look normal, it was a free base

[pulsar marsh]

but im talking about the fact that i can see my chest alot when i look down

[misty bobcat]

can anyone help me out? I wanted to update my avi but i dont get the alert window anymore. I updated everything, reopend , reimportet

[supple needle]

Where do I remove parameters ?

[desert elk]

in the parameters list

[hazy flax]

can I ask about unity help here?

like, my unity opens for a second and quickly closes before opening the project..

[supple needle]

Where might that be

[pulsar marsh]

Hi Hi everyone, Whats the most common female body type that has alot of clothes choice to buy for it?
i see Pandaabear bodies alot

[supple needle]

Overall I think e-girl and zinfit

[pulsar marsh]

thank you!

[unkempt canopy]

does anyone know how to fix the issue of the quest avi not moving when I move on pc?

it gets trapped in one location

on spawn

[desert elk]

click on your avatar, scroll down to parameters

in the inspector

unless it's vrcfury then you'd need to look in assets or somewhere else

[daring lark]

Still looking to see if someone can post these avatars for me ,I’m willing to make one for you too

[tepid oyster]

I was trying to add texutres and colors and stuff but now when I try it paints in only one color, how can i fix this?

[mild solar]

could this error be why my vrcft isn’t working?

i’m not sure how to fix it

[quiet sinew]

Anyone know how to attach the clothes onto the body?

[mental estuary]

It's normal for that error to appear with the face tracking prefab, so probably not

[desert elk]

you need to parent manually because they don't have an armature

and weight paint them

you could use robust weight transfer

[mild solar]

i made a head swap, the head has the proper arkit blendshapes, and when i debug in vrchat i see the green dots moving but the face doesn’t at all. are there any indicators or things i can look for to make the ft work

[mental estuary]

If the head is a separate mesh then the face tracking prefab won't work as it's pointing to body. If you merged the head with body then it should work fine as long as you're using the ARKit face tracking prefab

[mild solar]

oh, the head can’t be a separate mesh?

[quiet sinew]

what does robust weight transfer do

[desert elk]

transfer weight painting from your body to the clothes

[mental estuary]

It can be, but it's not really advised. It's easier to have it all as 1 mesh

Right now the face tracking prefab is trying to find the ARKit blendshapes on Body, but your head is separate so it's not finding it. So you can point the face tracking prefab at your head instead using the path rewrite rules from Body to (presumably) Head, or merge your head and body meshes in Blender

[quiet sinew]

wait so parent them to the body or the armature, im assuming the body

[desert elk]

armature

[mild solar]

ohhhh okay, so when i do path rewrite its “if animated path has this prefix:” i put Body, and the “rewrite the prefix to” i put Head?

sorry just to double check

[mental estuary]

Your head mesh probably isn't called head, right? You need to put the head's mesh's name in there instead. You can't name your head, head, because your armature probably has the head object and Unity doesn't like them both named the same

[quiet sinew]

so after i parent them are they suppose to be dettached from the body when i move it around in pose mode? and are they suppose to connect to the body once I weight paint them?

[mental estuary]

But otherwise, yes, you're rewriting from Body to whatever your head's mesh is named

[mild solar]

thank you SO much for the help, life saver

[desert elk]

yes, if you didn't weight paint them

[quiet sinew]

so i just parented them. the armature menu is suppose to look like this right?

[desert elk]

yeah

[quiet sinew]

so just go to weight paint mode and do robust?

[desert elk]

this or that yeah
i never used robust i just know it can do that

[quiet sinew]

so what am i suppose to do while in weight paint mode?

[desert elk]

weight paint the pants?

google a tutorial if you don't know how

or google how to use robust

[vagrant dock]

Do I need to know jow to code in vrchat language for the avatars

[wind pelican]

heyy, im having some issues with face emo
the avatar works perfectly locally and remotely when used on desktop. however, when used on quest and viewed on desktop, the expressions become out of sync.
I have two sets of expressions with the same menu used on both platform versions. locally on android the expressions appear correctly, however when viewed from desktop the expression is stuck on one from the second set

[daring lark]

When I upload the quality is terrible

[desert elk]

nope

[desert elk]

maybe make your texture size higher?

the account you upload from doesn't impact quality

[daring lark]

I’m using vroid

[desert elk]

okay, so am I

[mild solar]

i did the rewrite prefix on both the main vrcft and the 'eye rotation', the face tracking now works but the eye tracking doesnt work

[desert elk]

what do you mean by "quality is terrible"?

because it can mean different things to different people

[daring lark]

They end up looking like Roblox avatars when I’m trying to optimize for quests

[vagrant dock]

Like this handsome guy

[daring lark]

U where able to get it on quest?

[desert elk]

alright, how are you optimizing them? what methods are you using? can you provide any screenshots?

[desert elk]

Yes.

almost all of them

[daring lark]

If I can steal alil of ur time can we call?

[desert elk]

I don't call

[daring lark]

Oh

[desert elk]

you will need to send screenshots and explain your issue in text

[daring lark]

Is there sb in here that will call? Or can post for me

[desert elk]

no one will upload it for you

[daring lark]

Not the best at explaining

[desert elk]

can you really not send screenshots?

cause "quality is bad" can mean a lot of things

[daring lark]

How do I ss while in quest

😭😭

[desert elk]

you can take a photo with the vrc camera

or record the screen with the oculus camea

[vagrant dock]

Their YouTube videos and their ChatGPT

[wind pelican]

^ and then sync it to the meta app on your phone from the camera/gallery app

[desert elk]

yesh

[daring lark]

Hold on gimme a few I’ll show u it’s terrible I’ve watch a lot of videos

[wind pelican]

don't trust fucking chatgpt

[desert elk]

yeah

it sucks

[vagrant dock]

I use it to teach me coding

[wind pelican]

it's literally just a bunch of answers that already exist online, but blended together with the possibility of it just making shit up

[desert elk]

that's a bit different

[wind pelican]

good for you?

i've never used ai to teach me anything because i'd rather learn from human beings even if i have to google for five extra seconds

[vagrant dock]

No like I struggle on coding class because I can put random things I search on the

I can’t find nothing on google

It got be apple to apple for me to understand

[wind pelican]

so you can't apply existing answers to your specific situations and refuse to learn

and u need it spoon fed to u

anyways dont use ai for avatar creation. even googles ai overviews are inaccurate and they pull directly from the search results

[vagrant dock]

Coding is a lot to process and I understand but when my teacher give me assignment it like hwo do I apply to this tho

[wind pelican]

??

[vagrant dock]

Chat got does okay at quizzing me on it but I sti

It just so random

I can’t use types of codes he hasn’t taught us

[tepid oyster]

beep?

[daring lark]

Warning this is nightmare fuel

[desert elk]

Here are things that I think you could be struggling with (I'm guessing, I haven't seen your avatar). If it's something else, you'll need to be more specific
Face textures being black 8:54
Clothes/Eyebrows 24:27
Less polygons - baking with Tuxedo 32:11
https://youtu.be/lxL5TxNc6MA?si=GsqJiYAPXWi-k814

oh the video's coming

I was too quick xd

[vagrant dock]

Youl texture it in blender or unity

[desert elk]

yeah

watch the video I linked

I added time stamps for specific issues

follow those

and you'll be fine

[vagrant dock]

Wait Elliot you make avatars?

[desert elk]

because quest doesn't support cutout/transparency. And VRoids rely on it a lot

[vagrant dock]

I’m definitely gonna watch yo tutorials

[desert elk]

so you'll need to get creative

[desert elk]

Yeah, and it's one L only

[desert elk]

they're mostly for VRoid tbh

[daring lark]

Imma just follow the whole vid thanks

[desert elk]

read the pinned comment first 👍

[vagrant dock]

Oh

[desert elk]

cause there is some stuff that's not correct

[desert elk]

yeah, so 🤷

[vagrant dock]

I always have toruble apply colors from pallet in blender

Don’t feel like making a avatar either bc im building a roblox game

[tepid oyster]

blender

[daring lark]

Is the 4 min vid work for quest

[desert elk]

what?

[mild solar]

i headswapped an avi and added face tracking, which works but the eye tracking doesn’t. i used rewrite prefix from Body to Head1 on main vrcft prefab and eye rotation, but eyes still don’t move, im not sure what to do

[desert elk]

Ah, the one I made. No. It's only for PC

it says that in the 1st second of the vid

quest requires more attention

I time stamped everything

so you can skip through

[supple mirage]

Does anyone have a good tutorial on how to make own hair prefab?

Does anyone know how to make own hair prefab?

[drifting temple]

help why can't I grab physbones in play mode in unity?

[daring lark]

Do I need the highlights and iris to merge or is coloring in the transparency enough?

[desert elk]

better merge

[daring lark]

Um it’s grey in gimp

[desert elk]

i don't use gimp, i can't help you there

[daring lark]

Nvm it’s grey on here too

[desert elk]

ah

you're using the apply colour thing

[daring lark]

Ok I did it I merged them

Wait

So I need to put the eyelashes on the face mesh?

[desert elk]

yes

otherwise they'll be black like they are rn

on your avatar

[floral fable]

Yall know what this means? I've got a ton of em?

[light charm]

looks like an issue with gesture manager?

[daring lark]

Ok this is definitely the hardest part😭

[desert elk]

i know 😭

i also don't like it

[floral fable]

Yeah it's the same problem on like 6 other errors

[placid citrus]

Just delete gesture manager add-on then upload/:

[floral fable]

Man I got all this yesterday idk what the manager even does

[placid citrus]

It just helps out with testing expression's

[placid citrus]

It's not a requirement to upload it or anything

[floral fable]

Rodger. Thanks.

[limpid cargo]

unrelated but she is a cutie

[placid citrus]

np

[daring lark]

I’m finna do sum bs and use these eyelash stickers on Picsart n see what that gives

[daring lark]

Thank uu

[wind pelican]

?

[desert elk]

are your parameter lists the same?

[wind pelican]

yes

they use the exact same parameters and menus and the faceemo settings were copied over 1:1 from the desktop version

[floral fable]

Ah ha, new problem arises

[daring lark]

Yall think this gonna work

[desert elk]

test it and see

[wind pelican]

probably

[limpid cargo]

it should, in theory. but it may be warped on your avatar

[wind pelican]

yeah it might look weird from some angles

[desert elk]

yeah

but if you don't look that close it shouldn't matter
unless you do than you're gonna need to use the blender knife and some other tricks

[limpid cargo]

if you end up not liking the way it looks, it’d recommend reading my message in the other channel 😊

[desert elk]

:)

[drifting temple]

Maybe I'll provide some context:

The issue is global, I can't move any physbone
I have grabbing enabled, and the radius is set to a reasonable size
I am using the latest SDK
Everything is on the Default layer
Grabbing them works just fine when I upload the avatar or build for testing

[daring lark]

Ok not too bad

[desert elk]

woohoo

[mild solar]

oookay. instead i simply merged the mesh of head and body, but whnever i go in preview in the animation tab, the eyes go back slightly into the head,exposing some of the eye socket, when i take it out of bicycle pose its normal

[daring lark]

How do I put in the new cats?

It’s a folder

[desert elk]

edit > preferences

do not unzip

[daring lark]

I didn’t unzip it downloaded like this

[desert elk]

like here

and find the zip folder and add it

like with any other add on

[daring lark]

But it didn’t download zipped

[desert elk]

where did you get it from?

it should be zipped

try again from this website
https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

[desert elk]

it looks like you got the wrong cats version for your blender

[mild solar]

can anyone explain why the eyes go back into the head on preview/play mode?

[desert elk]

try the correct cats from this website
https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

for your version of blender

and restart blender

[daring lark]

Oh it downloaded 4.2.9

[desert elk]

what version of blender do you have?

[daring lark]

Is that the right blender

[limpid cargo]

are your eye bones rotated correctly?

[balmy barn]

its the same, mac probably did something wierd when you clicked on it

[desert elk]

yea

i just noticed it's mac

i know nothing about it

[mild solar]

when i preview "eye straight" and look left and all that, they look normal, is there another way to check that?

[daring lark]

Is this enough

[balmy barn]

old cats

[desert elk]

what blender is that?

yeah

cause it's old cats

that's why i'm asking

[limpid cargo]

hmm … make a copy and go back to blender and use the cats option to rotate eye bones, it should be near the eye tracking section.
export this copy and see if it’s any different

[balmy barn]

id use 4.2 blender lts https://www.blender.org/download/lts/4-2/ + unoffical cats 4.2.3.1 https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial-/releases/tag/4.2.3.1 (catsblender page also work) , using 4.2 cause of random plugins arent too happy with ones above yet

[desert elk]

yeah, i also use 4.2

[balmy barn]

wierd blender page, here is a button for 4.2 lts, goes to 4.4.1

[daring lark]

yall r killingg meee

[desert elk]

why?

[daring lark]

4.2.9 isnt the right one?

[balmy barn]

4.2.x

[desert elk]

it is, but idk how you got old cats on it

we assumed you used an older blender

[daring lark]

probably from my poor attempt of previews trynna optimize

[desert elk]

ouch

[daring lark]

will it not work?

[desert elk]

don't mess with code yourself 😭

it won't

[balmy barn]

no it will hate newer versions

[daring lark]

fuck

[desert elk]

it'll be buggy af

[daring lark]

well its downloading as a folderrr

i can compress it myselffff

lemme see if that works

[desert elk]

mac is doing weird things

[daring lark]

Ok compressing it myself works

I pressed the wrench

[mild solar]

i think im going insane. im trying to do a headswap, i thought maybe when i merged the head to the body armature that the eye/head bones moved to the armature's headposition, so instead i merged the body armature to the head, and now this is what i get after exporting 🥹 the eyes now bulge out of the head.

the eyes either bulge out or sink into the head, i tried eye rotation and it said the eyes were already rotated

there's LeftEye, RightEye which is what im using, but in the armature for the head theres also Eye L and Eye R that also control the eyes. that's how the head came when i purchased it though. could that be messing with it ?

[limpid cargo]

try using the other eye bones

u need to be careful when doing swaps and messing with armatures like this

try to use the other eye bones on the other fbx, the one before you made a copy

[mild solar]

the eye look in the vrc descriptor only properly works with RightEye and LeftEye, when i use Eye L and Eye R the previews make the eyes completely disappear/out of the sockets, plus when researching applying FT they said RightEye and LeftEye have to be under Head in armature, so i figured those were the correct ones to use. I can try though

[daring lark]

Not letting me change the name

[fathom current]

Hey having a issue with view position I have the the dot exactly on the head where it should be not matter what I do the view is always set to outside of the body at head level exactly to the right any ideas how to fix

[daring lark]

Nvm I had to restart blender it’s working now

[desert elk]

1. Make sure your avatar's scale is 1.1.1 in Unity
2. Make sure your avatar's position is 0.0.0 in Unity
3. Make sure the viewpoint's X coordinate is 0 in Unity

if all of there are true, it could be something else

but those are usually the culprit

[daring lark]

So when I’m merging bones if I do the breast will they be stiff?

[dry ibex]

how come when i export my model from unity as a fbx, all the shapekeys and vertex groups disappear, and how do i fix it?

[chilly summit]

I'm having trouble trying to put a gimmick on an avatar, but it keeps crashing my unity.

[daring lark]

I’m trying to join these meshes

[desert elk]

i believe you're having problems because of the way you installed cats (zipping it yourself and having the wrong version first)

[daring lark]

I clicked sum else and it did it but I wanted to see if I delete both bones on the boobs will I have no jiggle?

[desert elk]

make sure you don't have any unapplied modifiers in blender (for example mirror)

[daring lark]

Well merge weight

[desert elk]

yes

[daring lark]

Can I keep the boobs or no

I just do most the hair

[desert elk]

if you wan

t

[daring lark]

Ok

How do I see the amount of bones and polygons

[desert elk]

it will show up in the bottom right of blender

on the status bar

[drifting temple]

why does my avatar enter this position when enter paly mode?

it's really annoying for testing, can I just make it stay in TPose?

[balmy barn]

some controller on it or you arent using av3/gesturemanager

[glass condor]

Guys, i purchased an avi off of gumroad, but when i upload it to Build and Test, it shows up as the creator's watermark? What is even happening??? Please help. It's supposed to look like the third picture.

Any suggestions?

[drifting temple]

I think it's the second

how do I setup this av3/gesturemanager?

[balmy barn]

add it in vcc

then see list of stuff you can add

av3 have some very wierd quirks sometimes, gesture manger i find slow and bulky but yet to see it not break like av3 can

[glass condor]

OH! I should mention that this only happens with the prefab model. When I load up the FBX packaged within, it's fine but it's stuck in an a-pose where the chest moves, but not the arms or legs

[dry ibex]

Its not my model it came in a unity package so im not sure

[desert elk]

ahh

[balmy barn]

oh look a ripped av

[desert elk]

i misread

don't use the unity's export function XD

[dry ibex]

Its not ripped 💔

Files r public

[desert elk]

it's total trash

[dry ibex]

From the creator

[balmy barn]

why is it ripped then if he has the files

[desert elk]

if you really bought it, there should be an fbx for it in the assets

[dry ibex]

Its free😭 the creator made the files public a long time ago i got it off of someone else

The model is a couple years old

[desert elk]

"off of someone else" fishy

[balmy barn]

look at the hiarchy for it, thats a straight ripped vrca

[dry ibex]

huh

[desert elk]

that prefab name is so guh

ripped

[dry ibex]

What😔

[desert elk]

the name of your prefab

the avi;s

[night ember]

definitely ripped

[desert elk]

nr 1 sign of ripped stuff

and "off of a friend"

get it legit xD

[dry ibex]

As far as i know the creator has been offline for a really longh time

[night ember]

sure bud

[desert elk]

mhmhmh

[glass condor]

I don't think hyperrx is a ripper themselves, but that avi is deffo ripped

[dry ibex]

guhhhits a homestuck avatar😔 😔 😔 kind of expected but ya ill take yalls advice

[night ember]

cant do that if the avatar wasnt meant to be given to people or bought

[desert elk]

true

[desert elk]

yeah, i doubt the creator chose to make it public

someone else did

[light charm]

yeah that is straight up a ripped avi

[wind pelican]

the error i get from vrcfury
-all params i made are present on BOTH VERSIONS. they use the same parameters
-this only happened after i set up and added the faceemo prefab, but it also messes up my tail params specifically (not the other ones???)

i dont know where these global parameters even are????

[soft prism]

im using substance painter rn trying to retexture this model for the first time and i have the original avatars file and the one im doing, how do i get the shading they used on mine?? like theyre in seperate layers and i just want to take their shading and overlay it onto mine but im struggling finding an answer to that lmao (if this makes sense)

[ashen pelican]

can't wrap my head around why the left particle texture I made isn't transparent, I copied the settings of the right one exactly, which i'm using as a reference from a thing

[daring lark]

What’s the bone limit

[desert elk]

check it here
https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system/

[wanton cedar]

uhh, repeat that

are you talking about the color??

[soft prism]

the model has like shading that the creator painted on the model and i just wanted to recolor and overlay the shading, everything is in its own layer

[wanton cedar]

mind ss it? Just to make sure im following 100%

[daring lark]

How do I get the tuxedo thingy

[wanton cedar]

??

[daring lark]

I’m on the website and don’t see download option for the tuxedo plugin

[desert elk]

https://github.com/feilen/tuxedo-blender-plugin/releases

the first thing here is a zip file with the plugin

[wanton cedar]

oh tuxedo blender

[desert elk]

here

[wind pelican]

do you know what layer/folder does the shading?

[wanton cedar]

time to hide layers and check

[soft prism]

im honestly not sure but i think its mainly the one that says stylized shading

[wind pelican]

are your textures in the same project?

if so just duplicate that folder and drag the duplicate on top of your color

or, actually, it looks like the original has the colors on a soft light layer on top of the shading?

try both of those

[daring lark]

Does it cost to make an avatar room?

[wind pelican]

wdym?

[glass condor]

wdym?

[soft prism]

gulp idk theyre both seperate projects and i cant drag them and im like new to this so idk what im doing 😭

[glass condor]

if you mean a world to store your avis, no. It's easy to just download a generic free room off of booth and put Avis in it.

[wanton cedar]

does anyone know any better scar textures? (ignore the fact it carried on down to my freaking extra arm

[wind pelican]

oh i see. do you think it'd be allowed for you to send me the substance painter files?

[soft prism]

uhh idk i dont think so aaahh im just struggling rn LMAO

this is prob an easy fix and i feel so stupid rn

[wind pelican]

you might be able to hide all layers/folders except the shading, export it as a texture, then import that texture into your other project?

or you may be able to copy/paste between projects

[soft prism]

i tried to copy and paste and i googled and tried smart materials idk if thats what i should use but it just imported them all funny

ill try the hiding layers

[glass condor]

Update: I have a model that is visible, but it's stuck doing an A-pose.

I checked, it has a humanoid body structure in the Rig options, and all bones are mapped. It has a custom animator, but adding the animator changes nothing; no matter what, my character is a posing, and only the torso twists and turns, showing signs that SOMETHING is moving. Any ideas anybody?

[daring lark]

Can I go back in and sculpt or is it too late after combining materials

[desert elk]

You can always sculpt

[daring lark]

Should I delete the regular one?

This coming out a lot better then that nightmare fuel

[desert elk]

you can, you don't need to. I think it's always better to have a back up somewhere

although I prefer having one avatar per project, but you do what suits you

[daring lark]

I’m so glad u had a video pretty easy to follow too

[desert elk]

thanks

[glass condor]

Like guys, what is this

I'm in VR btw, not desktop if that wasn't clear

[desert elk]

is it weight painted? and does it have the rig set properly?

[wanton cedar]

you got that from booth????

[glass condor]

it should be, this is an avi I bought on gumroad--this came out of a unity package

[glass condor]

gumroad

[wanton cedar]

um

maybe contact the seller?

[glass condor]

he's inactive AF, no discord, other accounts dead since 2023

[wanton cedar]

get a refund

[glass condor]

The only hope is YouTube, and he uploaded two months ago. That's why I'm desperate

[glass condor]

I don't think you can for a digital purchase...? Unless there's a feature I don't know about on gumroad

[wanton cedar]

i think you might be able to make a complaint to gumroad and such

since the product didnt even work'

[somber meadow]

Bank chargebacks, but that could possibly get your card/account banned on gumroad

Making broken avatars then abandoning your store without delisting your products is pretty scummy

[wanton cedar]

fr

[drifting temple]

can I make an animation set a Parameter value?

[glass condor]

So I got ripped off. Yay

[wanton cedar]

yup

no offense but it does look kinda scammy

[glass condor]

https://dragonskyrunner.gumroad.com/l/MaximusDraconis

It's this thing

There's a VR chat demo avi and everything, I don't understand how they botched this so badly

[daring lark]

Ok so I’m on the unity part I’m trynna get the colors

And I’ve dragged and dropped my stuff into assets

[desert elk]

okay

[daring lark]

What do I do now

[desert elk]

right click in assets > create > material

put your texture on that material and put the material on your avatar

like this, except it must be a quest compatible shader

so something like toonlit/standard lite

[wide prairie]

anyone know how to fix desync like my face is in front of someone elses but in my view im inside their head

like their actual position in game is different thn wht I see

im using lumin that I bought and it doesnt seem to be an issue for others with the same avi

[desert elk]

change the shader to a quest compatible one, you're in the right spot

in standard it would be the first slot

but standard isn't quest compatible

[daring lark]

Now I’m lost

Didn’t make a material folder

[desert elk]

it's not gonna make a folder for you

[wanton cedar]

how did you upload it?

[wanton cedar]

was there anything that said "open me"

[desert elk]

the texture goes here

[daring lark]

Still lost .-.

[desert elk]

I don't know how else to help

[daring lark]

How do I get the texture on here

[desert elk]

drag it

[desert elk]

drag it from the assets to the box

[daring lark]

To where🥲

[glass condor]

Wait...I found a light in the tunnel. they have an older version of the avi available. I downloaded it and uploaded it, and...it works. Idk wtf they did with the 1.1 version, but something in that avatar broke everything. I might be able to save this 😭

[desert elk]

the box that I marked here 😭

top right

[daring lark]

Oh shiii😝😝

The back hair is transparent from the front 😂

Butttt this is looking great

[desert elk]

that's normal on quest

you'd need to duplicate it in blender

if you'd want it to be visible

[daring lark]

Damn the avatar description thing not here

[desert elk]

you need to add it manually

[daring lark]

How

This button not doing nun

Nvm

[desert elk]

click on your avatar in the hierarchy and add a descriptor in the assets

and set it up

[daring lark]

Ok I’m excited looks like it’s working

[desert elk]

it should

[wide prairie]

did someone just ping me

[desert elk]

no

[daring lark]

Ok so way better looking, the mouth didn’t work and the eyes not blinking but this definitely is a lot better

[desert elk]

you need to set it up in the avatar descriptor if you didn't

but it looks way better

[night ember]

if you have the blendshapes or whatever for it

[desert elk]

there should be one

[quiet sinew]

how would I move the clothing arms to fit the body arms? is that even possible?

[balmy barn]

pose mode , adjust , save as rest, then sculpt ( can also transfer weight instead of using the bones after )

sorta same thing

[wanton cedar]

can i save this to show to my friend?

[balmy barn]

👍 sure, i post random vids on here

[quiet sinew]

it worked thanks

[daring lark]

How do I set it up in avatar descriptions

[desert elk]

how did you set it up for the pc version?

Same process

[daring lark]

Oh I skipped that😅

[soft prism]

how do i upload the avatar i retextured with the textures using unity? i made the retexture in substance painter. im a bit confused by it

[somber meadow]

Does that avatar's materials use poiyomi?

[limpid cargo]

this sounds like an issue with your Eye View
go to your avatar descriptor > view > view position > edit > then reposition the ball. it may either need to be further in the head or closer to the face

[crisp night]

I need help making an avatar

my first

[left gull]

lots of info here on what you'll need/ general resources : https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495

[vagrant dock]

if youll got better ones, do youll mind sending me

this is only refrence image i could find

[wide prairie]

I think I was able to fix this before messing around with my actual height in vrc settings I’ll check it out though ty

[mild solar]

update from an earlier post: i’m trying a head swap, but the eyes keep bulging out of or sinking into the sockets in preview/gesture manager play mode depending on the way i try to add the head. the ONLY way the eyes stay where they are in the sockets is if i apply the entire head prefab under the main avatar’s headbone. the problem is, the head sculpt has vrcft arkit and for specifically eye tracking to work, the head sculpts RightEye and LeftEye need to be under the main avatar’s Head bone in hierarchy. i tried merging armatures/bones/mesh in blender, i even tried renaming the main avatar’s Head bone and moving the sculpts Head bone under the neck, almost like redirecting the main Head bone to the sculpt’s one (i didn’t need anything under the original avatar’s head so i deleted it all except Head bone and renamed) and nothing works. as soon as i merge anything, as soon as i move anything in the prefab, the eyes mess up.

if anyone knows of any fixes i would appreciate it so much, i really want to be able to use my head sculpt with face and eye tracking.

[limpid cargo]

then that means it was an eye height issue,
when you change your height in vrc, it shifts the eye view position

anyways… now i’m the one asking for help…
my physbones have stopped showing in the scene view , even with gizmos on

[compact dust]

object hidden, object off, physbone component off

possibly

[limpid cargo]

nope, none of those

it’s on my main body, everything is visible
i can see the axis, so the bone is selected
but no physbone visuals

[compact dust]

shrug

[desert elk]

increase radius?
or zoom out and look again, maybe it was exported from blender with the wrong settings and it made physbones very big.

[main moon]

I have a request: Could someone find a way to port Wheatley from Portal 2 into VRCHAT with his animations and everything? I’ve been trying, but I just can’t.

[vagrant crater]

This is more of a blender question but why is it black for some reason the beard keeps turning black for no reason at all each time i put it in blender with Cycles even with no textures ITS BLACK

[somber sequoia]

I've had that happen a few times, when the video driver on my laptop (an AMD, *spits*) was out of date

[vagrant crater]

well im thinking its more model related their PMX files which ive never used beside for this

[somber sequoia]

I was modeling so didn't particularly care about the textures at the time, so I just ignored it until later

[ripe pond]

Is there a better method of cutout mesh that is invisible under coutout mattereal than manualy cutout teh metch?

[somber sequoia]

removing polys is always better than having a shader render them, even if it discards

[leaden laurel]

How does one unpack a unity file so I am able to import my model into blender to scale clothing etc. I am just not able to locate the FBX file as it's a unity package 🤣

[desert elk]

import into unity
there should be an fbx in the assets folder

or somewhere within a folder that's inside of the assets

if it's not there file a complaint to the avatar creator 🤷

[leaden laurel]

the only thing I see in the assets is a prefab id as it's labeled and that's all

[desert elk]

where's the avatar from?

[ornate stump]

If you got that in unitypackage, it's ripped avatar.

[desert elk]

that's what I was gonna say when I asked where it's from

[ornate stump]

The answer often is "a friend gave me".

[desert elk]

truee

[somber sequoia]

it's always the friend

[hard current]

anyone know why i get these errors when i try and build and publish

[ornate stump]

Look for other 2 errors.

[hard current]

huh

[ornate stump]

Confused? The number count 7 errors. But you're showing only 5 errors. So find other 2 errors.

[somber sequoia]

(scroll up)

[hard current]

found them

[ornate stump]

Try updating or removing the AV3 Manager.

[hard current]

ok

[ripe pond]

That is why sice I don't want to remove each geometry one by one

[somber sequoia]

not sure I could really advise without better understanding of what you're working with

[ripe pond]

well my model have a tone of cutout and if I want to use it for mobile I can't have cutout whci mean I have to punch 100+ hole total in my model to get the effect of alpha channel

[glass blade]

you konw whyy ?

[somber sequoia]

the first one is a world shader, you can't use that on avatars

the second is for particles, you generally shouldn't be using it on not-particles.

[ripe pond]

Yep That what I'm talking about for teh second one I subspect it a bug

The probem is that Particle mattereal is the only way to get transparant or cutout model while being quest compliance aside from remove the probematic part out right

[glass blade]

is for a particule

[somber sequoia]

it's not listed on the website's docs as being approved for avatars, so...

[glass blade]

What I don't understand is that it's in the VRCHat/Mobile category.

[somber sequoia]

yeah the message is misleading

[glass blade]

but there are still some unauthorised shaders

why not VRChat/Worlds

[somber sequoia]

🤷

[desert elk]

yeah the sdk should be updated to make that message more clear

or generally separate the shaders properly

[somber sequoia]

probably can't change them for legacy reasons, but the message should be nicer.

[desert elk]

true

[hard current]

i just love it when you sit around waiting for an avi to upload andd right as its about to finish it goes upload failed

new error coddes

some errors are in both

I will check back in a couple hours I am going to get some sleep

[desert elk]

looks like your account doesn't have permission to upload avatars

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[limpid cargo]

some possible reasons as to why physbones aren’t showing and just don’t work in game at all?
(the bones are weighted and move fine, but no physbones)

using default physbone settings as well.

[night ember]

If you try to upload ones beyond the limits itll just delete them

[limpid cargo]

i only have 2

it didn’t work when i had 1 either

[ornate stump]

Aren't showing as in it didn't show gizmo in unity?

[limpid cargo]

gizmos on, they also don’t show

collider radius, limits on, nothing showing

[ornate stump]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/physbones#transforms Read cautions.

[night ember]

You need at least 2 objects to make a physbone work

[limpid cargo]

i don’t have any root bones

[limpid cargo]

it doesn’t work with 2 either

[desert elk]

mess with endpoint settings

and see if the show up

[ornate stump]

Root bone if you don't set, it's the bone the component is on.

[night ember]

Cant tell ya without actually seeing what your avatar looks like

[limpid cargo]

i love you

platonically

[desert elk]

yeah, you probably didn't have enough children bones

[night ember]

Aka 1

[desert elk]

yup

[limpid cargo]

yeah there is no children bones…

[night ember]

You didnt have 2 then

[limpid cargo]

i thought you meant 2 physbones ,
“objects” was not very specific

[night ember]

Physbones are components

Objects is literally whats in scene and hierarchy

[limpid cargo]

eh whatever

[ornate stump]

If you actually read the caution in the page I sent you would understand.

[limpid cargo]

i did read it, that’s why i responded to you with “i don’t have root bones”

how would i know that’s what the caution is talking about if i didn’t read it…

[ornate stump]

And I answered what root bone actually is and that still should apply to your case.

[limpid cargo]

well it doesn’t matter now, they helped me fix it

[agile abyss]

I've spent the last hour trying to get this skirt right, any recommended setting I should use for the spring bones? or should I just go for something different?

[ornate stump]

Spring bone is for vrm avatar, not for vrchat avatar.

[agile abyss]

epic

are you just supposed to use cloth physics then?

this my first avi sowwy

[ornate stump]

You have to use "VRC Physbone" component.

[agile abyss]

any recomended settings for those? I spent way to long futzing with them which is why I thought I was supposed to use something else

[ornate stump]

Its really depends on how you want it to move.

[agile abyss]

aight

[supple cloud]

dude this shirt wont get on the rig

[ornate stump]

Did you weight paint?

[supple cloud]

i use auto and voxel heat addon

it kept saying
Bone Heat Weighting: failed to find solution for one or more bones

[ornate stump]

That means auto doesn't work and you have to manually weight paint.

[supple cloud]

i dont use manual weight paint

[desert elk]

well you need to

[junior void]

auto weights is not perfect anyway

[ornate stump]

You do now.

[fast urchin]

Hi.
I was wondering:
What is the best way to toggle objects on an avatar?
I seen something that just scales objects to hide them, but is that what should be done or is there a way for them to just not render and save performance?

[timber wharf]

if its a bunch of complex objects like multiple full outfits, then honestly extra game object (with material slot) for each would be best, despite how it affects avatar ranking. on pc theres uv tile discard in shaders like poi, which allows to have toggles on a single material. then you can scale stuff down, better if you can do it with a bone, worse when its blendshape. both dont skip rendering mesh tho but its only way to not add extra materials on quest.

[fast urchin]

Ok.
It is a shame you can't save on object rendering, but you can save on materials?
(If I understand you correctly)

[supple cloud]

this is not fun

[timber wharf]

@fast urchin well yes, ofc if its all atlased or somehow else uses the same texture. if its different material then just separste it and toggle as an object

[fast urchin]

Toggle..
You mean make it's size zero?

[spare moss]

So I more so need help with my full body, I’m not the creator nor do I know how to fix things, but every time I load into this avi my arms act all weird and the waist slightly bends. The person that made it had people with FBT test it and it worked for them. Why is it doing this for me how do I fix it 😓

[timber wharf]

@fast urchin i mean checkbox on top of inspector

so whole object is disabled

[wide prairie]

I noticed the auto measure height function isn't accurate should I just use that or my actual irl height you think?

[fast urchin]

Oh you can use those at runtime?
That's great.
But from the way you were talking: am I correct in that you can't manipulate objects that way that are in the same hierarchy as the avatar?

[timber wharf]

@fast urchin what? you can toggle anything, only limitation is at least one renderer should be on any time, like disabling everything and going invis will break things. it just when its toggleable, its extra skinned mesh renderer in your performance rank, on top of extra material. while uv discard or scaling allows to minimise those.

[fading furnace]

Currently trying to figure out an issue with a model I commissioned and am trying to put into VRchat; It (mostly) works, but for some reason when I actually get ingame, the entire avatar is raised up by like 5 feet. Provided ingame screenshot is just in T-pose, the arms do control properly, even though they're way above my head
I figure it's something to do with the rigging but I have very little experience fiddling with anything on that end so I'm unsure of any solutions. It was certainly not made for VRchat to begin with, but as far as I've looked I can't find anyone with a similar issue

[timber wharf]

@wide prairie most cases it mean you need to remake your guardian

[fast urchin]

Ok
Nice
So everything should work as expected when doing this on pc.
But for standalone and mobile you need to think about the materials?
And disabling objects is allowed there too?

[timber wharf]

its allowed. just stats are way lower compared to pc, like 2 skinned meshes, 2 static and 4 materials max, or youre very poor.

[fast urchin]

Oh.
That would make it difficult to just add random things to it.
But thanks for letting me know.

Need to take some time to make a really good fallback I guess.

[burnt briar]

anyone know how to use the IKEHUD. it has the textures but when i enter playmode it doesn't work?

and the video guides it comes with don't exactly help

[wary perch]

Has anyone found the cause of the bug that causes buttons to not work, and display in the menu as blank "button text" entries? Please @ me if you have the solution. I just wanna fix my avatar.

Took a break for 2 days, and I still can't figure it out.

[hidden loom]

I'm having issues understanding chairs in vrchat.
In player enter location, if I assign for example another object in my hirarchy as enter location, then do I need to set up a collider on the same object for it to be able to be targeted? If a person then clicks on it, will they get put into the poisition the onject with the station component is at?

Is the End location going to be where another object in my Hirarchy is positionally if they try to leave the chair by lets say moving?

Also what do I need to do to make sure the chair is on? I if I have it disabled by default can never seem to make it work. So The object the chair is on needs to stay active? Will the chair be able to be entered if I disable the enter location object?

[limpid cargo]

oh yeah it glitches it out sooo much. use your real height, or go a few inches below or above to find what works for you :)

[somber sequoia]

it's a skirt, it'll take way too long of futzing with it. probably more than once 😦

[somber sequoia]

last time I looked, which wasn't recent, you have to have stations enabled by default. You can disable them via animation after 2-3 frames though.
The docs say that Enter location is where the player is seated.

[still shuttle]

Im having an issue, I have made toggles for contact recivers so many times but for some reason this one time is not working properly.
I've set it up exactly how I set up all my other contact toggles but this one is being fuckin weird

The toggle seems to ONLY work when interacting with the contact itself. Its a basic on/off toggle with the contact on by default, you should be able to toggle it off so the contact no longer works, but for some reason you can only toggle it off WHILE you interacting with the contact. Its not supposed to be like that, I've never encountered this issue before

[somber sequoia]

seems like it could be a logic problem, but obviously hard to tell from here

[still shuttle]

here is a video of what i mean

this is how my contact is set up

and the toggle is like any other toggle

[somber sequoia]

I probaly wouldn't be using AnyState here. But if you are, turn off "can transition to self".

Also the transition to Exit is kinda meaningless in the AnyState situation

[balmy barn]

any state for that no no

[still shuttle]

thats odd
I've been making contacts like this for a phat minute and have never encountered an issue like this

[balmy barn]

default on any state hammers the state 10000's of times over a hour instead of once

[still shuttle]

this didnt fix it D:

This is the only way I know how to make contacts lol

I have done this so many times, no idea why its acting up

usually it works perfectly fine

[somber sequoia]

I didn't say this was exactly the fix, just that this is a thing which is usually a problem and may contribute to this one.

show your logic now?

it could be as simple as enter -> off -> on -> exit

(with appropriate conditions)

[still shuttle]

its the same I just unchecked the "can transition to self" box

[somber sequoia]

ah. Yes, again I would still not use AnyState for this, that transition to exit isn't going to get used.

[still shuttle]

How would you recommend to set up contacts then?

[balmy barn]

ish

[somber sequoia]

I just said. And yeah, Thulen's way works too

[still shuttle]

Where?

I dont see where you sayed that lol

[somber sequoia]

#avatar-help message

[still shuttle]

that doesnt make any sense to me

[somber sequoia]

which part do you need explained?

it's what Thulen's image has except I do a transition to exit usually.

[still shuttle]

this seems just like a normal toggle tho?

[somber sequoia]

right - you just put specific conditions on the transitions

"is grabbed and other variable is true" or whatever logic you want

[still shuttle]

Yeah, but usually I use an avatar parameter driver, will it still work without that?

[somber sequoia]

not sure where that comes into play here but sure, that can go on any state

[still shuttle]

Im not entirley sure why the avatar param driver was used, I believe a while ago I watched a tutorial on how to make contacts, and have just been using that method

[balmy barn]

not sure why that need a parameter driver for a float or animation its temporary

[still shuttle]

I switched the logic for the contacts to be more like basic toggles, but im still having the issue

[balmy barn]

had issues testing contacts before but thats usually av3 issue

[dreamy thicket]

hi someone can help me on how can i upload my avatar using unity? its giving me errors, im trying to upload the pc one first but its giving me errors

like idk what to do

[ornate stump]

Note the missing script error. You likely haven't import all the required packages.

[dreamy thicket]

like i uploaded the avatar and the avatar update, should i also import the vr one too on the same project?

[ornate stump]

No. You should read what package it requires.

[dreamy thicket]

i read it on their website but i did everything that they said to do...

on that specific avatar

[desert elk]

double check

[dreamy thicket]

cuz i imported everything for the avatar and it says that the vrtracking is missing its that normal?

[ornate stump]

It isn't.

[ornate stump]

Chance is the author forgot to update the requirement in description after updating it to the new version. In this case you have to contact the author.

[dreamy thicket]

ok

[balmy barn]

read webpage for that avatar , step 2 & 3 list all requirements (if its the one on payhip)

362mb vram

[near cliff]

jjust joined so i can ask, anyone know any shaders that make the avatar look like a slime?

tryna find or learn how to, but i cant online

[sly rose]

I'm gonna scream, it's been like 30 Minutes I'm trying to import a character but it kept saying there's not a certain bones execpt it his

[desert elk]

go to configure

in unity's rig tab

[somber sequoia]

often that happens when the bone has no mesh weighted to it. you can drag the bone into the slot in the rig setup, but it may be a sign of something else wrong

[sly rose]

Cause he look like that-

And his bones are that

[sly rose]

I don't see the configure tab

[somber sequoia]

this is not a vrchat-compatible humanoid rig

[desert elk]

oh yeah

[somber sequoia]

there's a pin in #avatar-rigging as to what it should look like, you need more bones

[desert elk]

that's not gonna work

[sly rose]

Oh man

I'm a shit at rigging 😭

How am I supposed to do his fingers if he doesn't have ones

[balmy barn]

they just have to exsist dont need to do anything

[sly rose]

Where do I put them

On that sphere-

[desert elk]

wherever you want

[sly rose]

Cause the hands

[desert elk]

they don't need to do anything

[sly rose]

are the sphere

[desert elk]

bones are invisible in game

[sly rose]

I hate rigging 😭

[desert elk]

you don't need to weight paint them to anything

[sly rose]

oh yeah ?

Is there a template or something 😭

[somber sequoia]

#avatar-help message

[sly rose]

I'm stupid

[somber sequoia]

nah, you just missed it

[little steeple]

Hey all! Noobie here. I am playing around with my friend's avi that I uploaded for him, to learn. I found a free asset of a cyberpunk jacket, fitted it to the avi, made empties under the bones and linked it all up. All good and working, but the UV map, for whatever reason on one submesh of the jacket is broken in vrc, but looks fine in unity. What could be causing this ?

im working with toon lit shader, bcs I need it to be quest compatible

[ocean quartz]

did i apply this correctly to the face or is there another/better way, there was no directions how to apply on the download just wanna make sure

[sly rose]

I'm managed to go to the upload step thanks again !
But huh what does that mean ?

[ornate stump]

You didn't assign chest bone.

[sly rose]

Oh yeah thanks !

Sorry I'm a noob to that

[fallen glade]

how do i make a rig like this

[somber sequoia]

looks like a normal humanoid rig, with the body weighted to a second set of bones, using rotation constraints for much of it.

[arctic ginkgo]

Try checking in blender to see if there are multiple UV maps, then delete the ones you aren't using

[frail temple]

Finally found it! i found the 3d model used in the game! i am guessing the particle system also allows for 3d models aswell?

Or would it be done differently? asking because there's supposed to be atleast a hundred or more of these hornets

[somber sequoia]

You can create mesh particles, yep

there's a joke avatar that's a swarm of rats, I'm guessing this is how that works

[frail temple]

Each hornet is 200 triangles, would it be too much for VRChat?

[somber sequoia]

hmm I should look at that through a wireframe shader at some point.

[somber sequoia]

that's a question of computer hardware, not the game

and how many hornets you want

500 hornets? yeah that might not perform very well 🙂

[frail temple]

From what looks like it in the game, they're around 200-400 hornets, i am guessing the more practical side would be around 100 hornets

No idea how a 2003 game did that many...

[somber sequoia]

Hmm I'd assume GPU instancing applies in the shader here though

oh well a game is vastly different than vrchat too

[frail temple]

Here's what i am referencing if you're curious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHJXpINeCQY&t=9s

[sly rose]

Is the camera correctly placed ?

[somber sequoia]

no idea what is in this image

[arctic ginkgo]

I would put it inside the head

[sly rose]

But we will see the eyes ?

[somber sequoia]

those look like pre-rendered cut scenes, but still wow that's a lot of hornets

[arctic ginkgo]

No, you can't see anything on the head

[sly rose]

Oooh

I didn't knew that

well thanks you !

[arctic ginkgo]

Your avatar's proportions are large head, small body, those types of avatars tend to lift up when you look down. To mitigate this you should put the viewpoint as close to the headbone as possible

[somber sequoia]

ideally you want X = 0, and it right between the eyes and a bit forward of the center of the head bone. in this case the head is really big so probably it should be inside, yeah

[ornate stump]

It's possible the further ones are just billboarded.

[somber sequoia]

yeah I would have assumed most of those are billboards if there wasn't talk of actual mesh