avatar-help

[somber sequoia]

not sure why it hasn't been released...

[stray sphinx]

and you exported the blend to a binary fbx?

well the model you want

[covert delta]

Took the model I want

Tried to upload the textures

[carmine flint]

Aw.. Thank you for replying! I'll Just awkwardly fiddle with them until then. It started with the previous update and is still there for 3.8.

[covert delta]

It came out blank white

[stray sphinx]

the textures. you placed it in your unity project right?

[somber sequoia]

yeah what does "upload the textures" mean

[stray sphinx]

any way to make my friends camera on pc stick to the head when playing an animation? they can only see nothing when using the animation

[somber sequoia]

please don't ping me for questions I'm not already helping with.

[stray sphinx]

alr mb

[somber sequoia]

for the record, I have no idea what that might mean, and that's why I didn't offer help.

[stray sphinx]

alr

[frigid grove]

Hopefully you see what I mean. I don't know if it's something to do with foot ik or if the emote just sucks.

[stray sphinx]

that looks more like an animation problem .w.

[somber sequoia]

yeah no idea what is going on there - yeah, maybe animation

[stray sphinx]

but ngl, wobbly legs

[carmine flint]

What layer is the animation on?

[stray sphinx]

action

should it be in fx instead?

[frigid grove]

Bleehh, makes sense I suppose.

[carmine flint]

No, action is right

[somber sequoia]

no, action is right

[stray sphinx]

alr alr

I mean I know that basic -w-

it's mostly if there even is a way to make the camera stick to the head for my pc friend

I know gogoloco replaces the view each time you use a static animation

but that's only 1 update and doesn't work dynamicaly

[dusky silo]

Heyo peeps, Anyone knows why this alert appears? trying to upload to quest and that's the only shader that doesn't show the vertex colors of the asset

[somber sequoia]

that's a world shader, it can't be used on avatars.

[desert elk]

Light mapped is for worlds

[somber sequoia]

remove the vertex colors

[dusky silo]

understood, thanks!

[desert elk]

sdk doesn't make that clear unfortunately

[dusky silo]

yee, didn't know that :/

[stray sphinx]

they should ngl, have one saying world and the other avatars, would make it simple xD

or show which materials is the wrong shader

[desert elk]

yeah

[stray sphinx]

cuz sometimes I have trouble finding even what material I need to change xD

[balmy barn]

macarena so old , that motion looks like it was converted in blender wich does wierd things to hips and legs , theres multiple converters in unity for vmd/ect

might have one somewhere (have 100's of vmd)

yup

[frigid grove]

Mhm mhm, I think mine especially sucks though because I'm pretty sure it was exported from Fortnite and converted for Unity.

[balmy barn]

be sure you have tracking set to head & hip when using dances like that or very wierd things happen ( i just set tracking = animation whenever im doing one , when done set it back to tracking)

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-tracking-control

[unkempt summit]

how i put clothes avatar

[frigid grove]

What kind of clothes are you trying to work with?

[unkempt summit]

novabeast

and rex

[frigid grove]

Do you know if your clothes are compatible with VRCFury or Modular Avatar? I'm pretty sure most clothes for those models are prebuilt with compatibility with one or the other.

[unkempt summit]

i got both

[balmy barn]

I use blender for that, robot got sweater now

[desert elk]

love that robot

[frigid grove]

The clothes support both? Or do you have both of the tools in your project?

[unkempt summit]

vrfury

[frigid grove]

Mkay, try dragging one of your outfits into your scene and click it. If it supports VRCFury out of the box it should have a component attached to it named VRCFury Armature Link, or something like that.

[unkempt summit]

<->

my brain die

[frigid grove]

Mkay. On the bottom of your Unity window you see your clothes, right?

[unkempt summit]

Okay

[frigid grove]

Click one of your outfits and look over on the right. Do you see anything that says VRCFury Armature Link? Mine says Modular Avatar because that's just what I'm working with right now, yours might say VRCFury.

[soft thistle]

i wonder how i can be able to use these 2d faces for my 2d visemes & expressions

[balmy barn]

spritesheet , uv/offset detect viseme or just voice

matswap is also a thing but 'bleh'

pc can also animate using decals (annoying uv shift on them)

theres the numbers for a 4x4 sheet

[unkempt summit]

Okay wat next

[frigid grove]

Did it say VRCFury over there?

[unkempt summit]

it all give me this

[bitter tusk]

How do you view an avatar from 1 meter away in Unity? I keep hearing people say to do that to judge if you should up texture resolution but I can't find how do to that. qwq

[sleek cloak]

I made a gun with its own FX animator layers and parameters, but when I try adding it to my avatar, it doesn't play any of the animations. In Play mode, I can see the layer states playing in the Animator tab, but it's just the animations that don't play. Any ideas?

I was able to get it to play properly when it's not on the avatar.

[unkempt summit]

what i do next

[frigid grove]

Drag the outfit into the root of your avatar on the left :3

[soft thistle]

how do i figure out where to put the view position?

[desert elk]

between the eyes

X must be 0 to avoid glitches btw

[soft thistle]

gotcha

[unkempt summit]

<-> so drag it to the avatar

[frigid grove]

Yes :3

Just drag it onto the name of your avatar on the menu on the left.

[radiant cape]

failed to build avatar?

[unkempt summit]

so other one did work but now maid one dont

[frigid grove]

Oh wow, are you sure the clothes are actually on your avatar? It looks to me like you just dragged them into the scene.

[unkempt summit]

novabeast maid outfit

oh

i cant show it

[frigid grove]

While I'm in this channel though, I'm having a problem of my own. I'm getting an Avatar validation error when I try to upload.

[unkempt summit]

see

[timid kite]

this is a bone that i made bigger so it fully touches the handle of the leash. but in unity... it doesnt show as a big bone when i add radius. its still the same

[somber sequoia]

scroll up to find the first 2-3 errors

[eternal wedge]

Would this cause everything to become frozen ingame, like ears tail etc, trying to get my nova quest compatible

[somber sequoia]

it literally says "all physbone components will be removed", so yes, that is what that means.

[eternal wedge]

Thanks lol, just making sure so i dont go hacking off things

[soft thistle]

i'm here in the lipsync segment, since my 3d model has a 2d face, how do I set the 2d visemes?

(from now on, i have none)

[somber sequoia]

if they aren't blendshapes, disable that and animate them yourself using the Viseme parameter

[soft thistle]

gotcha

[hasty mountain]

How do avatar clothes scale down specific parts of the avatar when put on? When I scale down a bone it scales every bone after it with it.

[somber sequoia]

yes, that's how that works

[hasty mountain]

So do I scale up a bone further down the line?

I want to scale down the shoulder to prevent clipping but I want the rest of the arm to remain the same size

[somber sequoia]

I'd reshape that in Blender

[hasty mountain]

I want to resize the bone only when the clothing is toggled on

It would be a waste to reshape in blender

[somber sequoia]

I'd do a blendshape for that.

[cursive knoll]

hi! im trying to edit my avatar (its a booth minase avatar) and i tried to make a sculpt to head in blender,but when i put my materials on the head it deforms like this,.Any fix you guys suggest? (im really beginner in blender)

[hasty mountain]

Actually thanks I forgot to check blendshapes it looks like there's one already tho :3

[somber sequoia]

oh cool

[fallow mirage]

how can I tell what kind of problem does it have

should there be a more verbose error such as "impostor failed to generate because of component : "

[worn kiln]

usually too complex or unusual hierarchy cause those issue IIRC

[fallow mirage]

yeah, too complex

perhaps the write default is the problem

[frigid grove]

I just put my avatar back together in a new unity project and I'm still getting a failed avatar validation error. Any possible fixes?

[vagrant crater]

whys my boy set into the animation preview pose when im not in the animation preview mode?

[frigid grove]

Having a feeling its because of a write defaults mismatch, working on fixing it just to check.

[short ferry]

so I have a question, how does one make a toggle that disable facial expressions?

[somber sequoia]

set a boolean variable with the toggle and use that in the conditions for each of the expressions

[short ferry]

gotcha, thank ya

[lilac musk]

So I've seen multiple avatars now that will stop a players voice from working, but will play some other audio in it's place. I get how they are playing audio, but how do you stop a players voice through an avatar? Is it what I think it is?

[soft thistle]

if my character isn't supposedly to have a visible neck, how do i fix this missing heirarchy element problem?

[somber sequoia]

make a neck bone anyway

[night ember]

You need all of the humanoid bones

[timber wharf]

not all. but more than unity considers mandatory

[soft thistle]

i got that fixed btw

[grim valley]

i had this issue earlier before, but randomly fixed but it came back up since i reverted to a old fx file, but i want my facetracking to animate my ears and tails, so if i smile it makes them wag.

all that works transitions work, etc. im only having an issue with playing the animation. i can go into the fx player when in gesture manager and see it working and trying to play the animation and the conditions are met and such, but the animation for the tails and ears just dont play.

ive made a mask for just the ears and tails, but that didnt work. ive done every sanity check known to man, idk whats wrong 😭

if i press play and DONT go into gesture manager and change the parameters they will do the animation, but once gesture manager is ran it doesnt work

[vagrant crater]

still need help

[radiant cape]

that is all of the errors

[somber sequoia]

Pumkin's tools has a reset feature

[vagrant crater]

whats that?

[somber sequoia]

points at google

(that is the correct spelling)

[vagrant crater]

bruh im just asking

[somber sequoia]

but you already know the answer - it has a thing to reset that pose

[mild solar]

"Failed to upload file." and this is the only red error in console

[grim valley]

try using different version of poi shaders

[soft thistle]

now that i've settled the rest of the requirements, where should i start?

do i add in an Int for this part?

[mild solar]

unfortunately no, i have the recommended poi installed and im getting the same error, i tried a new project and im getting "Failed to upload"

[covert delta]

ok trying this again with a fresh new model

[frail temple]

I want my avatar to have a toggle to summon mosquitoes like the one in the picture, how do I achieve this?

Not as a pet, just a bunch of 2d models that move around a certain area super fast so nobody can tell they're 2d

https://youtu.be/tHJXpINeCQY?si=Z4JRpRTwndC76Lyw exactly like here

[ashen tinsel]

Anyone else "Review Any Alerts" tab jus not showing anything?

[frail temple]

you have to press on the arrow

[arctic ginkgo]

This would be done with a particle system

Add one into your scene by right clicking in the hierarchy and selecting create>effects>particle system

Make sure you have a material with the correct texture, and mess around with the settings

You can also animate them if you'd like using a sprite sheet texture

[frail temple]

Got it, i'll screw around with that later, sounds like a can of worms

[arctic ginkgo]

Yeah there's a lot of settings to mess with, just try playing around with all of them to see how they work

[frail temple]

I am currently having problems with Atlas'ing, for some reason this model has around 72 material slots, majority of them being duplicates, is there a fast way to combine all duplicate materials?

Problem is the materials are named weird and each material inbetween uses a different texture, so manually selecting them in Matcombiner is time consuming

[arctic ginkgo]

Fortunately they are divided up into nice, toggleable modules which makes it easy edit

[arctic ginkgo]

If they are duplicate you shouldn't need to atlas them right? Because they are using the same texture?

You would just need to assign all those faces to the same material slot

[frail temple]

just asking if there's a way to automate assigning all faces to one material slot instead of clicking every and each material slot, selecting their faces and then finally assigning it to one material

i don't even get why it's so many material slots, all these nodes look the exact same to me

[cursive knoll]

any fix?

[cursive knoll]

ok i fixed it,i needed to turn on this thing

[timid terrace]

You can fix it with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZx0NTmxTKM

[fallow mirage]

I found a solution:

1. Create new avatar id, upload to new id
2. Upload pc only build
3. Generate impostor on website
4. Upload quest build on the same id

[ashen tinsel]

Even with it extended, nothing shows

[echo yoke]

hey guys are there any tutorials or anybody that knows how to make generic avatars ?(im trying to add the isle tenontosaurus for like 4 days by now) i rlly need help

[light charm]

it ain't easy 😔

[covert delta]

textures are coming up blank

does anyone know why this is happening

ill try exporting the .blend instead but i doubt thatd work

[desert elk]

Do they perhaps have white emissions all over them?

[covert delta]

why am i not surprised

[covert delta]

nope

just untextured

[echo yoke]

ik,but i finally found a video for the locomotion,i just need the emotes and im done4

[covert delta]

I think I should give up

That seems like it'd be healthy

[void socket]

how do i get my liscense key/serial number in unity

[somber sequoia]

you do that in Unity Hub

[void socket]

yeah, but how?

[sturdy obsidian]

Anyone knows what is happening here? Doesn't seem to happen in other worlds, I was in camera mode maybe I had a setting on? It scaled with height and nobody noticed it?

[somber sequoia]

upper left, there's some kind of icon that has my initials and a dropdown where i can do account stuff

[void socket]

do i hit account settings?

[somber sequoia]

is the cube part of your avatar, like a screenspace shader effect cube or something? some worlds do weird things with lighting

[somber sequoia]

I'm assuming, I haven't poked at this in a while

[void socket]

i dont see any serial number :(

[somber sequoia]

it should send your browser to their online site where you login

[sturdy obsidian]

Ah maybe? Gosh

[somber sequoia]

I've never done anything with a serial number so not sure why you would for vrchat

[void socket]

it says i need one to unlock a avatar i bought

[somber sequoia]

ohhh, I thought you meant for unity itself

you'd have to see the avatar creator's documentation for that

[void socket]

oh

so the email i got from them?

OH

[somber sequoia]

no idea, it's not like there is a single standard for this

[void socket]

ok ill figure it out tysm

[sturdy obsidian]

So it is using a default unity shader my artist said

[void socket]

TYYY

oops

thankss

[idle kelp]

Can someone teach me on how to upload avatars?

[sturdy obsidian]

I'll ask other places too

[somber sequoia]

hah, I just linked you a tutorial in the other channel

what timing

[idle kelp]

Lol

[covert delta]

ok textures are here

how do i apply them to the model

[somber sequoia]

put them into the appropriate slots in your material

[covert delta]

i cant drag them anywhere

[somber sequoia]

that's weird

[covert delta]

just has a little circle strikethrough

no clue

[somber sequoia]

oh, you mean you can't drop them wherever you are trying to

[covert delta]

nope

[somber sequoia]

You can only drop those into texture slots in a material

[covert delta]

do i have to upload them somewhere else

oh ok

[somber sequoia]

textures go into materials, materials go into mesh renderers

[covert delta]

how do i directly make a material

[somber sequoia]

in the menu: assets -> create -> material

[balmy barn]

default one , shaders have wildly different looks

[covert delta]

wont let me enable it

[desert elk]

did you make the material or extract it?

[covert delta]

extracted from blender

[desert elk]

or are you trying to edit a material that's embeded in the fbx?

[covert delta]

im trying to import it as a texture

[somber sequoia]

"enable"?

[covert delta]

cant click the box

[somber sequoia]

what box?

don't assume we know what you are doing here 🙂

[covert delta]

here

[somber sequoia]

if you mean the texture slots, you drag your textures into them

[covert delta]

doesnt let me

[somber sequoia]

you can click the little circle next to it if you want to search for one

is everything greyed out, like the shader dropdown? If so that material is embedded in your FBX file and read only, so you have to make a new one

[covert delta]

nope

everythings fine

just doesnt let me click the box

[somber sequoia]

generally clicking the texture box will just show you which texture is in there, but if none is in there it'll do nothing

[covert delta]

if you want to take crack at it i can try to send you the .blend file 😭

im so lost 😭

[graceful mango]

these blendshapes automatically turn on when in play mode, is there any way to not have them do that?

[balmy barn]

find where in the fx controller doing it

[graceful mango]

im in the fx controller but like where do i find it and disable it, want a screenie?

[somber sequoia]

what I often do is set the weights for each layer to 0, then enable one by one to see which one causes the effect I'm trying to find.

there's no way we can find it from a screenshot

[balmy barn]

i duplicate and nuke layers until i find it

[graceful mango]

im sorry im not too good with unity vocab 😭

[somber sequoia]

watch basic tutorials. each layer in the animator has a gear, in that gear is a weight parameter. 0 = off, 1 = on.

[graceful mango]

ohh right!!

YAY

i did it

found them

they were presets for like, the main outfit the base comes with

thanks!

[covert delta]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nSeNZniFON4PWixJn8ajwfpxY8IT1v8f/view?usp=drivesdk

If anyone wants to try 🥲

[strange pasture]

for some reason my model exports without its shape keys, is this a known issue?

[desert elk]

did you apply all modifiers?

mirror, decimate, etc

[strange pasture]

just applied, ill test rq

oh wow that just fixed it thanks

[balmy barn]

no, just no

[vagrant crater]

so im wanting to have a chair i can toggle on and off and sit on but clearly by adding it onto the body of the avi its just gonna to fallow the avis body so how i keep it from moving so i can sit on it

[balmy barn]

cant sit on your own station, closest you can do is fake sitting

[somber sequoia]

there's a prefab that does this!

basically puts a chair under you when you sit, it's clever.

[balmy barn]

sitbox thing

[vagrant crater]

yes thats what i wanna do im saying a physical chair on the avatar not a station

[balmy barn]

yeh thats fine just animate avatar and make stuff appear , bunch of sitting animations you can grab from mixamo

[vagrant crater]

no your not getting what im trying to say

i have a chair that i can toggle behind the avi a physical chair that everyone could see if i go back to try and sit since its connect to the avi itself it moves backwards with were my body is how do i stop that so it just sits there in the world

[hexed cobalt]

so uh my avatar wont upload i dont really use unity so idk what i did wrong everything is imported i recon and its the right version

[craggy plaza]

How are your constraints setup? I have a chair on my avi an I just parented it to the hip bone and it works fine

[craggy plaza]

You are missing a file. Look at the selected line it tells you with one it is

[vagrant crater]

i connected it to the whole thing so it wouldnt be bound to just one thing was guessing on what to do

[uncut pine]

I have a very simple problem: My view orientation is flipped around

This is my avatar in unity (it's a coutch and I wanted to start simple)

But in VRChat it's turned around

Sadly I cannot adjust the view rotation only view position

[craggy plaza]

I would do it like this, (don't copy the numbers) this will always keep the chair "glued" to the floor but it will always position itself under your hip bone, so if you sit down the virtual chair will always be under your hip.

[craggy plaza]

check if your coordinate system is set to "global"

[uncut pine]

it was local

[craggy plaza]

you avi will always face to positive z (blue arrow)

[craggy plaza]

@vagrant crater is that what you meant?

[somber sequoia]

actually what you want on that VRC Parent Constraint is the "freeze to world" checkbox

[hidden shore]

hey, just wondering as to why the physbone chain is not continuin on, it seems to just cut off after the first bone, anyideas?

[desert elk]

that's normal

it will affect children

[somber sequoia]

what are you judging that by exactly? You may want to set the collision size to see it visually

[desert elk]

but it doesn't apply a component to them

better for performance

[hidden shore]

it doesnt seem to be effecting the other children in the bone system, sorry i forgot to change the collission radius

thats with the vidualizer, dont worry about the weird movement,m im just using it to see how the outfit flows

[desert elk]

I'm gonna be honest, it's hard to see if the outfit even moves on its own with that avatar movement

[somber sequoia]

that looks right, you won't see anything useful if you click on the child bones

and yeah, I don't see what's moving or not here either

[balmy barn]

2 physbone compents on those ,other going to hate it

[hidden shore]

im not sure if this is what you mean

[balmy barn]

stick to one

[hidden shore]

theres only one on the sode, currently i believe its the only one effectig that bone, i think x.x

apologies if its a little wierd, im not great with models and stuff

i really just mainly deal with particles x.x

[uncut pine]

I got it to face Z+ with global settings, but it wasn't doing anything. I turned it around 180° and of course with 0°. (I also deleted the files of the previous avatar to really make sure I am using the new orientation). But even if I enter a random rotation like so ⬇️ . I still don't see any rotation within VRChat (I am not uploading, just testing locally)

This is my blend file and everything is okay in here, I think

I changed my export settings in blender and it worked

[sharp oasis]

Quick clarification question. If I have this toggle, and the selected transition is Toggle True and IsLocal True, it will only turn on for me, right? not for others?

[somber sequoia]

yes - all conditions must be met to transition, and Islocal is only true for the avatar wearer.

[tall dock]

Question, when exporting a tex from substance painter, is there a way to make the texture png transparent? most of the time the parts that weren't painted on stay as a gray background instead of being transparent

[somber sequoia]

If you mean a base color texture with an alpha channel, go in the inspector for the image file, check "alpha is transparency".

most of the shaders will support that.

If you mean at export time, well put the opacity value on the alpha channel of the base color texture in your output template. Or optionally output a separate map file, but unless you're doing weird things that's a rarer use case

poiyomi.com has some nice output templates, I started from there and tweaked for my needs (such as outputing packed maps for poiyomi or mochie shaders)

[tall dock]

In unity turning on that option only makes transparent black or white but the background is gray

[somber sequoia]

well your shader has to use that channel too

[tall dock]

Ahh it's because when I put the texture onto the other to make them join I have to magic select the gray area and the dissolve effect of the texture doesn't apply

[somber sequoia]

also this doesn't work on Mobile of course

[tall dock]

Hmmm

I'll check based on the things you told me

Although may be hard for my brain to connect the dots

[somber sequoia]

I'll be around for a bit, I'm learning math

[stuck oxide]

Hi! does anyone know how to use pcss + liltoon that could help me out with it? Please DM or ping reply ^^

[somber sequoia]

you mean a mask in the animator?

[balmy barn]

dont need a mask for that, just set 'is animated' if you have physbone on it

[somber sequoia]

yep

the physbone component docs on vrchat's docs site have such a screenshot

[balmy barn]

ears go flop

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/physbones/#vrcphysbone

[somber sequoia]

it's on the physbone component used for the ears, wherever that is located

possibly on the ear bone root?

we can't tell you from here but you could search the hierarchy for 'PhysBone' probably

[timber wharf]

t:script in top of hierarchy

[somber sequoia]

I always forget the syntax for that

oh. this is a vrchat server, so....

'sokay - I just have no idea how to do what you're doing 🙂

maybe others do

[graceful mango]

its supposed to look like this with the bones, but in game it doesnt show and some toggles dont even work???

[somber sequoia]

sorry, what are you referring to here?

[graceful mango]

ill show you what the toggles look like in unity vs vrchat

^via gesturemanager

okay wait the tank and shorts dont even work

but the skeleton shows in unity but not in vrchat

the asset says it requires "avatartools" but they didnt provide instructions

need any further info..?

[somber sequoia]

I mean, there's really nothing to go on here, so...

[graceful mango]

the deal is that the skeleton asset here is missing ingame

[somber sequoia]

well how does it work?

[graceful mango]

let me see

i definitely need to re-check the booth page

yeah theres lit no instructions https://booth.pm/ja/items/5754578

but it pretty much uses modular avatar to rig itself to the model

ill try to use avatartools

[soft thistle]

is it possible to use 2d visemes that depend on other expressions?

[somber sequoia]

since they're really just generic animations, you can setup transitions based on whatever criteria you want

[graceful mango]

for some weird reason when i look down at an angle it appears but when i look back up it somehow dissappears?

[balmy barn]

rendering queue or bounding box , main reason i keep everything in one mesh

[graceful mango]

i need to make the bounding box a lot times bigger right, because it's sized 'perfectly' around the mesh

(i expanded the bounding boxes and nothing changed)

what's the editor again?

this

i recently made it bigger to match all the other assets' bounding boxes

not really, its pretty late so i kinda rely on visual representations, im not sure what rendering queues are

thulen had mentioned render queue

im using liltoon

found it, what is it supposed to do?

and does this help?

[balmy barn]

opaque / transparent have different rendering queue , if you use the same it can fight over wich one is visible first , staring at different angles you will notice it

inner probably opaque , transparent tend to be alot higher

[graceful mango]

ohhh i think i get it now

[balmy barn]

very much guesswork tho could be other things

[graceful mango]

so like, how do i get it to work?

right
what do i have to do for that?

i mean, i get what you said

which would you recommend i select?

[balmy barn]

skin very likely transparent and inner opaque they should behave

just if one is higher then transparent it will stick out

[rain cave]

Hey I changed the Gravity settings on my physbones to 1 and entered play mode and tilted my avatar to one side. But the bone is not falling after the gravity at all

[balmy barn]

try without polar , angle might keep it from going anywhere

[graceful mango]

i set the skin to transparent, what counts as opaque for the skeleton?

[rain cave]

just did still sadly nothing

[loud topaz]

When editing the hand colliders, "automatic" has colliders on both hands while selecting "custom" only puts a collider on the left hand. Anyone know why that would be? Second picture is "custom"

[graceful mango]

i'll probably leave this all for tomorrow, thanks all for helping me :D

[rain cave]

ah this might be it any idea what could create that its for some reason the Face Tracking UE Debug that its pointing at

[loud topaz]

Solved: although it was mapped correctly in rig settings, the SDK was unhappy about how my right hand bone was named, which retained an old name on accident

[loud topaz]

This happened to me when i had a mismatched version of the SDK installed on accident. But gosh, that was a few years ago. Checked that everything is up to date?

[rain cave]

yeah everything should be

just checked yeah

[loud topaz]

Correct Unity version? Newest version of whatever plugins or scripts you're trying to use? An obvious one, but have you restarted Unity?

[rain cave]

2022.3.22f1 with the SDK at 3.8.0

guess am uploading a test and testing it in vrc :p

[loud topaz]

oh i thought it was preventing you from uploading

[rain cave]

nono its just the phys bone gravity not doing its thing in play mode

[balmy barn]

3.8.0 is annoying asking before you upload and noticed angle limits dont do a thing editing it in play mode so im back to 3.7.6

[rain cave]

yeah noticed that 3.8.0 is weird in some things especially the upload button now being mid upload 🥲

guess am downgrading thx!

[fickle basin]

Is there a crashlog in VR chat? I just crashed with my new model on and i need to know if it was the actual model or the room i happened to be in

[worn kiln]

?tag logs

[flat musk]

=How to access your output log=

1. Copy the following text.

 %USERNAME%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat

2. Open explorer and click the address bar.
3. Paste and Hit Enter.
4. Look for a text file named "output_log_xxx", usually you only need to share the latest one.
5. If you haven't, create a new thread in #1138891887374237706 and attach your output logs there.

[worn kiln]

(ignore step 5)

[frail temple]

Anyone have any idea to fix it?

[fickle basin]

So i have two issues in this picture, 1. Those gray textures are meant to be transluscent like glass. 2. the rear face of the head is see through for some reason, it has the same shading as the rest of the faces so i'm not sure whats going on here

[copper carbon]

what is the best LTS version of blender to get for avatar creation? (i need to reinstall blender and figured i should upgrade from 3.5)

[somber sequoia]

I'm using 4.4 but honestly it doesn't matter in the slightest

[frail temple]

as long as it has CATS honestly

[somber sequoia]

if you use that, sure

[copper carbon]

i dont even use CATS lmao

[somber sequoia]

yeah I don't either

[frail temple]

play russian roulette to choose your version lmao

[copper carbon]

i used it once for a base edit (optimising stuff with bones) now i just dont use it anymore cus i saved that version i made

[somber sequoia]

so the answer is: get the newest version supported by whatever plugins you like

[copper carbon]

thanks :3

[copper carbon]

that sounds like normals being borked
also if you want translucency on quest ... good luck cus the only way i know how to do it is alpha blend particles which the sdk doesnt let you use cus its dum

[frail temple]

Still, anyone's got any idea on how to fix this damn thing?

[somber sequoia]

you could select all faces and assign to that slot...

or hide things you aren't working on

[young bear]

is there any way (such as via an VCC package) to make it so you can use multi-platform build mode when the avatar has pc-exclusive scripts (e.g. audio sources or rigid bodies)

it kind of defeats the point of multi-platform building when you can't change anything ABOUT the avatar in between builds

[fickle basin]

anyone know why my avatar is leaning forwards like this?

[soft thistle]

does your armatures work fine for your avatar

[fickle basin]

i don't understand the question. I mean, it works, technically, as you can see its functioning in the game, but it's leaning forward

[soft thistle]

oh

[timber wharf]

@fickle basin send raw fbx to mixamo, see whats different

[final girder]

Anybody know how to fix this error?? "This avatar uses Visemis but the face mesh is not specified."

[somber sequoia]

you probably don't have the mesh with the face in the right slot in the avatar descriptor

[mental pawn]

im going to upload a basic avatar and pretty much its all done, but how should i name the bones

[night ember]

whatever you want to name them

there isnt exactly a strict naming scheme

just whatever would make sense for you

[somber sequoia]

the convention for the spine though is roughly hips -> spine -> chest -> (optional) upper chest -> neck -> head

[night ember]

some people do like UpperArmL,LowerArmL and others do like ArmL,ElbowL

just whatever is easiest for you

[mental pawn]

so blender's naming scheme is fine?

[night ember]

sure

[somber sequoia]

blender has a naming scheme?

[night ember]

random shit like upper_arm.L or forearm.L

insert spine.001 to spine.004

that type of scheme

[somber sequoia]

well the extensions are good since that's what blender uses to figure out left/right

otherwise it seems to just name children based on their parent

[night ember]

main name being whatever with spaces replaced with _ and extensions separated with a .

[frail temple]

How do I get Mixamo animations to work with my avatar?

[somber sequoia]

I forget what you get, was it a .blend or .fbx? I remember exporting from blender then in Unity, copying the animation out of the .fbx (turning it into a .anim)

[mental pawn]

I just read the getting started and i guess ill add non deforming leg bones lol

since my avatar is kind of like a floating bean kind of thing

[frail temple]

FBX

[soft thistle]

could this be a proper way of setting up the 2d visemes?

[night ember]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

very unoptomized

just make a sprite sheet then animate the offset

[soft thistle]

where can i make one

[night ember]

manually

just take all of the faces and merge them into a 4x4 sprite sheet

[frail temple]

Any art program really, I use Photoshop

[somber sequoia]

I use ImageMagick for that

[soft thistle]

i have that too

[fickle basin]

Kay, now my robot is dancing, not sure what i'm supposed to be looking for though

[compact dust]

macarena

[fickle basin]

shrug

[merry sedge]

😭idk how to attach the tail properly
that happens

[night ember]

weight paint

[mental pawn]

you could try checking up on wweight painting

also i would say, parent the bone that starts the tail to the hip

[night ember]

spine would be better than the hip

[mental pawn]

well in this case yeah, because of the placement of the tail

[merry sedge]

where is that in CATS 😭

[mental pawn]

you can parent it manually

press the child bone then the parent, press ctrl + p and then either keep offset or the other option which links it to the bone itself

[night ember]

you dont need cats in the slightest

[somber sequoia]

(in armature edit mode)

[mental pawn]

what is cats for anyway (cant use it lol, because its made for a really old version of blender)?

[night ember]

its not a really old version of blender and its just tools that "help" the process but its not required (or I recommend if you know nothing about blender)

[merry sedge]

theyre both greyed out 😭

[night ember]

you need to be in edit mode

[merry sedge]

i am

[night ember]

and it could very easily already be parented

[mental pawn]

i dont see the stripped line tho

[night ember]

and?

[somber sequoia]

you can check a bone's parent in the bone properties window - lower right box, little bone icon

[somber sequoia]

case sensitive

[merry sedge]

does it already have to be inside the other armature

[somber sequoia]

oh - yes

you can only parent a bone to a bone in the same armature

[soft thistle]

the spritesheet should look like this for the 2d visemes, right?

[compact dust]

not necessarily, just wtv you want em to be

[timid kite]

how to make the circle of the sound smaller so people in a small area hear the sound and not around the whole world?

[compact dust]

i might have no idea what you're talking about tho

[compact dust]

on the sound just reduce the size of it

[timid kite]

how

[somber sequoia]

you mean on an Audio Source? it's at the bottom, falloff distance

[compact dust]

yeh that

i dont add sounds very often cus they can be annoying

[somber sequoia]

under 3D sound settings

[timid kite]

where

[somber sequoia]

literally right there, max distance

[timid kite]

should i change min and max distance?

[somber sequoia]

I dunno, do you want to?

[timid kite]

i only want the sound to reach few people around me

[compact dust]

then reduce ze distance

[somber sequoia]

docs on this component: https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.0/Documentation/Manual/AudioSource-reference.html

[merry sedge]

ok i got it connected but now its doin somethin else lol

[somber sequoia]

weight paint

[merry sedge]

ok thank u that sounds googleable

[somber sequoia]

ooh boy

[soft thistle]

still a bit sure if this is right

[timid kite]

people still hear me from a far

[compact dust]

did you upload the avi again after changing it

[timid kite]

yes...

[compact dust]

is that the right audio source

[timid kite]

yes

[compact dust]

lemme see it selected on the avi

[compact dust]

well maybe cus its still big

[merry sedge]

is it not supposed to be like this

each bone is similar

[compact dust]

is what not supposed to be like that

looks like it bends

[olive yoke]

make sure theres no other bone its weighted to other then each section’s bone

but from js that ss yes

[merry sedge]

yes! thank u the leg was attached

actually a lot of other bones are

is there an easy way to change it or do i just have to find and paint them

[halcyon gull]

What app would I use to make the model? I was planning to do it on my tablet then put it on my laptop

[compact dust]

blender usually

what app on your tablet?

[halcyon gull]

I don't have any apps yet but I'll try to get blender

I'm trying to learn to do everything because I have a couple avatar ideas and I want to learn how to make them

[compact dust]

you cant get blender on ipad btw

[halcyon gull]

Oh

I have a laptop but it doesn't work rn

[compact dust]

i can recommend nomad sculpt if you're really set on starting on ipad

but its not great for when you get to making your model move (from my experience, maybe im just dumb)

[halcyon gull]

Ok ty

[compact dust]

it's really easy to learn and make stuff in, but can be hard to get good at cus it's weird in some areas

[merry sedge]

i cant find what else has weight on the tail 😭

[soft thistle]

i'm a bit lost here

[north socket]

Is there a way to change a particles lifetime with animations?

[night ember]

why is it set to 2d instead of 3d

[gray fractal]

I've never modeled a chibi head before (in fact I've never modeled any head before). Why does it feel wrong to me, and how do I fix it?

[somber sequoia]

you need to set spacial blend to 3D

[night ember]

thats incredibly low poly

[frail temple]

What's the best website to find locomotion anims?

[somber sequoia]

mixamo

[gaunt grove]

hi could anyone hop in a VC with me and help me upload an avatar I got commissioned? Need help with toggles

[compact dust]

mm no
just ask ze question(S)

[gaunt grove]

1. How do I add toggles to turn certain items on the avatar on/off
2. How do I add a texture/material swap toggle
3. How do I turn blendshapes into toggles
4. How do I make certain parts of the avatar float/move around

[desert elk]

1. Either with VRCFury or manually
   https://youtu.be/XqtSg6_W07Y?si=sIvoMuM1UlQ_KfXz
2. Record animations where you swap the materials and set up the toggles for them, either manually or vrcfury (idk if vrcf requires you to record animations)
3. Same as above, record animations that active/deactivate blendshapes
4. No idea

[compact dust]

yeah all of that is literally like a few steps in vrcf, just search tutorials or use eli link

[somber sequoia]

#4 really depends on what you mean

[desert elk]

yeah that's why I couldn't answer

[gaunt grove]

like uhh

hold on

these wings I wanna have like. bounce/float around when the avatar moves

[compact dust]

part of the walk animation is what i'd do

[gaunt grove]

sorry im extremely tired rn so i might be bad at explaining

[compact dust]

unless fbt, then you could do a toggled animation that repeats, otherwise idk

[desert elk]

Maybe you could get away with physbones? That's what I did

if the wings have bones

[gaunt grove]

thats what i thought? but i wasnt sure how i'd. do that

let me check if they have bones

[somber sequoia]

physbones

[gaunt grove]

they do !! okay sick

ty guys sorry for the bother GHDSHGDS

is this a good place to put the view?

[night ember]

I mean do you want to see from there

[frail temple]

I can't find any good idle animations on there

[lucid bison]

Any good tutorials on importing 1 frame pose animations from blender into unity?
In this case I'm not animating any of the humanoid bones, just some ears and whiskers.

[night ember]

Why not animate in unity

[lucid bison]

Because it's much easier to pose my rig in blender.

[night ember]

Wat

[somber sequoia]

okay

[frail temple]

Is there any other website you can recommend on finding animations?

[somber sequoia]

google?

I have no idea.

[night ember]

Just export the fbx that has the animations
Also in unity its literally just click bone then rotate it

[somber sequoia]

I'd agree Blender is way easier to animate humanoid bones, the bike pose is annoying. But for ears and tail I'd just do that in Unity

[night ember]

^

Nonhumanoid bones are far easier to animate in unity

[lucid bison]

1. I have inverse kinematics in blender and I'm using constraints. And I animate long ears with spline IK's. Also it's hard to even see the bones in Unity. If it doesn't make sense that I find it easier to pose in Blender, please just assume I'm crazy or stupid and move on because that isn't a helpful conversation.

2. I'm exporting the fbx with the animations and they show up in the settings for importing fine but the actual animations are empty:

Hence why I'm asking for a tutorial, because I might be missing some obvious step for a single frame animation.

I've also tried giving it two frames.
Then it's not empty, but the shape keys on the skinned mesh renderers are keyed even though I tried to mask them out.

[night ember]

I dont think constraints and ik transfer from blender to unity

[lucid bison]

That's why animations are baked.

Or in this case:

I'm using them to POSE and then I keyframe that pose.

The only reason I mention the constraints and IK is you asked why anyone would want to pose in blender and not unity.

[night ember]

Im not even entirely sure if nonhumanoid bone animations can be transferred

[somber sequoia]

yeah you'd have to bake the animations if you use anything more complex than basic keyframes

[lucid bison]

They sure can be. I imported this heart tail shape for an expression before:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1334054886588813414/1337222198133395487/Unity_zO5Gv1mnXF.mp4?ex=680594b8&is=68044338&hm=cf8bad965a3667e56023ec476de3c87fcd3cabf52c82183993d054091aaeedb9&

[somber sequoia]

eeee, that's cute

[lucid bison]

And it even plays nice with physbones (that one was posed with a spline IK)

[lucid bison]

Thank you!

[night ember]

Animated custom properties maybe?

[lucid bison]

So I did this once before but I completely forget how I did it. Hence the questions.

I guess I'll go look at that project and see if the settings tell me anything.

[lucid bison]

Hm. Maybe. But I think this is just location+rotation.

[night ember]

I mean thats what nonhumanoid animations are

[lucid bison]

I'm not sure what you mean about custom properties then.

Also animations can include scale which I didn't list.

[night ember]

Checkbox toggle right there for it

[lucid bison]

Yeah but I'm not using any of those

[night ember]

Thats the only thing I can think of for unity side at least

[regal jay]

hey babes i got a silly question, how would i toggle an item to stay stuck betwen one point or another?
like if i got a sword holstered and i want it to stay stuck in my left hand or right hand ?

i know its somehting to do with the parenting component but i just cant understand how to use that component properly,,

[night ember]

Just dont have the conditions met that sends it back

[regal jay]

oh,no,the issue is not staying stuck,its that i dont know how to control the goal positions

[night ember]

Parent constraint
Weight of 1 is goes to the target
Weight of 0 it sits at the original position and parent

[lucid bison]

Easiest way is to have a parent constraint to something like your hand transform. If you hit zero with the source set up to the hand transform.

And then you animate the weight of the constraint like Diven said.

It's a little more flexible if you put an empty object under your hand transform and parent to that. Then you can play with rotation a little more easily

[regal jay]

i see!

so i move the item to my hand, zero it up as a source,then i can move it to another position and do that again ?

is that how you properly set up positions i wanna parent around?

[somber sequoia]

I use empty GameObjects as my targets for the constraints

make them children of their respective bone, and then you position those

[night ember]

Just have it in the holster
Create empty on the sword
Move the empty up one in the hierarchy so its at the same level as the sword
Create a parent constraint on the sword
Set the object as the target
Activate the constraint
Place the object on the hand
Set the weight to 0
Animate the weight to 1 (and 0 if write defaults off)
Done

[regal jay]

oh i got that diven,thank you

but my issue is more of the cordinate part

[night ember]

I literally just said how to fix it

[regal jay]

@.@

[night ember]

The object is at the sword's 0

[regal jay]

yeah

[night ember]

After you parent just move that object onto the hand

[regal jay]

oh?

OH

and will there be any offset like this?

or it will really stuck in the hand?

[night ember]

If you put the object under the hand bone in the hierarchy

[somber sequoia]

it'll be stuck to the target object, wherever that is

[regal jay]

okokok

so just to be sure

if i wanted to make a cool sword thing, where it starts off holstered

and i can make it so it goes left hand and right hand

i should go and make 3 empties

make each empty a source

[night ember]

You only need two

[regal jay]

oh?

[night ember]

Sword starts off on the holster

One on left hand and one on right hand

[regal jay]

right,yes,so for that i can just animate the parenting to be weight at 0

oh ok, two,you edited,OK THEN THANK YOU

[night ember]

Have both objects as targets

[regal jay]

this is exactly what i wanted to know!!! thank you so much :>

thank youuu 💖

[night ember]

Weight of 0 on the entire constraint for the holster
Weight of 1 on the entire constraint and "right hand" as a weight of 1 or "left hand" as a weight of 1

Either or

You could technically do it with 1 object and 2 constraints

Either or

[fervent spear]

hey guys this might be a stupid question but what does this button do? and will it break anything if i click it?

[somber sequoia]

it applies those vertex streams to the particle systems which use the shader

if you haven't changed those it won't break things

[fervent spear]

ohh ok thankyou :D

[prisma thunder]

Hi! Strange question, but could I have a contact that plays an audio clip, but it plays a different, but specific one every time it gets touched?

So, if I press it three times;
Sound one
Sound two
Sound three

And if I press it more, it'll loop
Sound one
Sound two
Sound three

So the sounds aren't random, but each should only be played at the first/second/third contact, and the fourth is considered the first again and so on

If so, how would I go about this? Also, could I play a specific part of an audio clip and not the whole thing?

[craggy plaza]

You can do that very easily, you can switch the AudioClip in an Audio Source with an animation.

[prisma thunder]

Oh?

How so? Also, would this use multiple audio source slots?

[craggy plaza]

no, just 1

How much do you know about Animation Controllers?

[prisma thunder]

Nothing 😭

[craggy plaza]

I found a YouTube tutorial that does what you want

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmXCXP6UsQ8

[obtuse flicker]

A bit confused does the FX layer and the avatar controller need to be the same for between PC and Quest for them to sync up?

[desert elk]

I don't think so, the parameters need to be the same

[somber sequoia]

Correct, you can have a 100% different avatar in every way except the parameters list and it'll do what you expect

[timid terrace]

The parameters need to be the same, meaning the order, not the names. It is synced by order

I've actually made a video about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPRkacFhxg

[quick parrot]

is there any way I can fix this? it’s supposed to be regular black bows, this is my first avatar and i’m not sure what i’m doing wrong

[remote harness]

Hey i have question, i don't know if it is proper channel, i want to make something like cables between head in my avatar and elbow, but i don't know how to apporach this (i don't have much experience in blender/unity), can someone help me? I've tried doing it with bezier in blender but then cable is disconnected from elbow :<

[desert elk]

Is it for Quest?
You will need to use the knife tool in blender

if it's for Pc, set your shader to cutout

it should fix it

[quick parrot]

ohhhh

[desert elk]

(if the problem is what I think it is)

[quick parrot]

it’s for quest but it’s a vrm

idk if that changes anything

[desert elk]

yeah

you need blender

convert it to fbx in blender

and use the knife tool to cut the mesh around

to fit

VRoid I'm guessing? it can be annoying sometimes with Quest

[quick parrot]

yup!!

[desert elk]

yeah

You'll need to become very good friends with blender's knife tool hah

[quick parrot]

I honestly might just start from scratch

vroid is epic but I think it might be interfering with the quest optimization qwq

[desert elk]

It's only annoying cause of the transparency/cutout issues

once that's fixed, it's quite good!

most of my VRoids are quest compatible

[quick parrot]

I tried to just set it as that and see if I could upload it to quest but it wouldn’t let me upload it

[desert elk]

yeah, quest doesn't do transparency/cutout
that's why blender is a must!

[quick parrot]

sorry if this is an obvious fix i’m hella new to this

[desert elk]

it's okay, don't worry about it 👍

[quick parrot]

also, if I can’t get this to work, do you do upload commissions?

[light charm]

if you mean "upload this to my account for me", that is against vrchat's TOS because they would need your login info

[quick parrot]

ohhhh I see

sorry!!

[desert elk]

yeah, it's also dangerous

[desert elk]

Uploads like that are against ToS, but you may be able to find someone you could commission to convert the avatar to Quest compatible for you. Just not here! Here is full of scammers! Try VRC Traders if you want to commission

[signal totem]

Hey! Been trying to refit some clothing to my avatar. Only thing I’m having trouble with is taking the physbones from the clothing’s previous armature and sticking them to the new one.
Tried on my own but the physbones don’t move the cloth in unity when I test it thru there.

[desert elk]

is the clothing weight painted?

[timid terrace]

I want to do a video on that too, since it's not the easiest thing to do

[desert elk]

weight painting? yeah, it's not the easiest thing

I don't like it xd

[timid terrace]

No I mean adding custom clothing to your avatar when the custom clothing has a custom rig you want to keep

Because it has chains etc for example

[desert elk]

ah I see

[signal totem]

Yes

[desert elk]

can you show your physbone set up?

are the physbones visible at all in the scene view?

[remote harness]

I did something like that, how can i connect it with bones from both sides without interrupting current armature??

or is there any substitute i can use in blender/unity to make flexible bezier rope between two points in my mesh

[hidden shore]

Hello! any advice for how i could get two endbones to keep its original control? cause the physbones work great, however its the very end points that dont preserve the ring, i tried doing parent constraints and aim constraints but it doesnt preserve the ring at all pretty much. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you ❤️

[arctic ginkgo]

you can just weight paint it to those bones

if you want it to remain curved you can always add additional bones between them and rotate them between the head and elbow rotation

using rotation constraints

and for where to position them, you can have an empty with position constraints that is weighted 50/50 to the head and elbow

[remote harness]

sorry im pretty new to that stuff, could you explain it to me a little bit more detailed?

[crystal marten]

could someone help me out? i changed my model import rig from generic to humanoid, but when i look at the playable layers of the avatar the rig still says its generic, and in the vrc control panel it says the same thing.

[signal totem]

Yes
One sec ^^

Took this the other day but it’s a screenshot of the bones in the skirt
Whatever I’m doing wrong is consistent between projects. I’ve tried two different dresses and they both have the same issue.

Basically I selected those and hit p but I can’t individually select any of those bones after that to connect them to the hips.

[desert elk]

switch to generic, apply and switch again. If that doesn't fix it, try dragging your avatar to the hierarchy again

[crystal marten]

ok ill try! :)

[crystal marten]

i did both of the things you asked but for some reason its still not saying that its humanoid in the playable layers and the controll panel, but when i select the model to go to import settings it says its humanoid there instead.

[somber sequoia]

there's no useful info in this image, unfortunately. Are there any errors?

[crystal marten]

it said in the vrc control panel that it wouldnt be able to use the vrc animations provided but that was the only error i saw

ok wait i fixed my problem nvm thank for everyones help :)

[somber sequoia]

oh good!

[crystal marten]

omg wait no i have another problemm. when i enter play mode with gesture emulator, the body moves slightly forward, but the hair and ears dont move, but when im not in play mode its all aligned.

[mystic yacht]

hello !! i wanted to know if avatar from Vroid can be added on vrchat ??

[desert elk]

yes ofc!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ITTI5KwC3o&t=5s

like this

[mystic yacht]

Thank you for answering that fast !!

[desert elk]

tutorial linked

[earnest wind]

hey yall, Im trying to make an animation for my rangefinder where upon toggle, itll go towards a 90 degree angle position (like in picture 2), and hopefully, upon toggle disable, itll go back to its upright position like in picture 1.

for right now, i have two separate toggles for an up and down animation, but for some reason, the position changes dont save when recording. does anyone have any suggestions?

[frail temple]

Sorry for the bother, i tried to replace the idle animation with gogo loco added to the avatar, and even after changing the idle animation with my own, it doesn't replace it

done on the WD and non WD avatar

[timber wharf]

dont use proxy_ in animation names

sdk then doesnt even upload them and uses global ones

[frail temple]

Oh, so if I just remove the underscores, it'll work perfectly?

[timber wharf]

if you rename it to my_idle2 or smth. i cant say if it will work tho

[frail temple]

Doesn't work

Changed the go_idle to stand_still2, no change

[crystal marten]

Does anyone know how to fix this eye movement?

[frail temple]

i am not exactly sure but i think you have to unselect the eye bones in the rig in the head section

[frail temple]

For anyone in the future who wants to change the simple idle animation when using GoGo loco, Just go to the Desktop_Stand_idle animation controller and replace the first anim

[fervent verge]

I am trying to upload an avatar that i bought and i keep running into this error and I dont know what it means TvT

[hidden shore]

Hello! any advice for how i could get two endbones to keep its original control? cause the physbones work great, however its the very end points that dont preserve the ring, i tried doing parent constraints and aim constraints but it doesnt preserve the ring at all pretty much. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you ❤️

[somber sequoia]

I think you'd have to try to do that like a skirt, with bones coming from the hip area, terminating on that ring part. the way you're doing it isn't likely to get much better

[hidden shore]

Gotcha, think maybe having it going down the middle and controlling the sides kinda like a treee with branges might work better?

[somber sequoia]

could work

[olive schooner]

Does anyone know why my blendshapes reset when going into playmode? it also resets all my clothing blendshapes

[somber sequoia]

you have an animation setting them

[olive schooner]

im guessing it would be this animation?

[somber sequoia]

it's an animation, sure

[soft thistle]

should i make this spritesheet transparent for the 2d visemes?

[somber sequoia]

sure.

[olive schooner]

it was the right one so, thank you for the information!

[arctic ginkgo]

not if you want it to work on quest

[soft thistle]

yea i'm planning to make it compatible to quest

[hidden shore]

So i did the tree method, got some mixed results. it moves a bit better and preserves the ring, however now it wont follow the rams that well, i tried parent constraints but thats not working very great. any ideas?

[somber sequoia]

ooh that's much better

[hidden shore]

now its just getting it to bent properly is a bit strange

so heres my idea for a possibel fix, which should i go with, the chain thing paired up with the back chain, or should i go with the same tree branching bone tree where theres some bones that come off the main thing and theyll be rotation constrainted to the arms maybe?

[somber sequoia]

the chain around the bottom edge I think is the problem - this really won't work.

[hidden shore]

so something like this?

[sonic flicker]

a little odd but does anyone else know how long it takes for SDK to let me build my avatars and test them? I got that notice stating I need to wait and enjoy the app some more before they contact me via email about it.

[hidden shore]

yeah doesnt work great either

[light charm]

you need to reach at least new user rank
just play more vrchat lol
go to public worlds, add people to your friends list, etc
(and no, going afk won't help)

[sonic flicker]

Very well, I'll leave my room and go to the family dinner. ugh (satire, but genuinely, thanks for the answer.)

[mental pawn]

why wont the eyes follow the head?

also, how do i fix the spine error?

[somber sequoia]

with way more bone chains from waist to edge

rig it like a skirt

[languid remnant]

Is there anyone who can upload my avatar for me to their account then meet me in game so I can clone it? I’ll send you $10

[somber sequoia]

you'd need someone who owns all of the same content, else you're breaking terms of service and such...

[languid remnant]

It’s custom made and not copyrighted

[mental pawn]

just get vrc+

its not much expensive and you get to keep your ranks

[languid remnant]

I play on quest 2. Would I still be able to upload it on the quest?

[mental pawn]

you need a pc and unity

[languid remnant]

I don’t have either

[mental pawn]

any help i could get, also i got some new errors ill send

the thing is that im trying to fake a humanoid avatar

since my character isnt really humanoid

also do these messages matter? yes i didnt really assign weight since i just boned the eyes

[hidden shore]

something like this you mean?

[balmy barn]

where is your shoulders ?

[mental pawn]

it has none and for some reason it letted me go without them

i just did forearm and arm

well, i dont mind faking bones

i did that with the non-existant legs

[balmy barn]

shoulders are not optional for vrchat humanoid

[mental pawn]

hmm, i really thought that since, well its unusual for it to let me go like if it didnt matter

[night ember]

you cant fake a humanoid rig you need all of the required bones

[mental pawn]

my character doesnt have limbs, like a rec room character but what im doing is faking the bones

[night ember]

you need the bones

doesnt matter if it has a mesh or not

it still needs the bones

[balmy barn]

1 is fine but 'slower' then 2

blendtree not tested with it they have no exit time/ect

i used to run them in reverse , so i could just make one animation instead of 2

been years since i done any with wd off

find it a giant waste of time and can break stuff very easy

wd off did some very wierd things on stations too

[soft thistle]

i made this spritesheet of my own, how am i able to assign each texture to the visemes? (i also made the voice layer in the animator too)

[night ember]

just edit the uv settings

tiling .25 .25
then just move the offset

[soft thistle]

gotcha

this is what it should look like, right?

[night ember]

sure

[mental pawn]

added the shoulder bones but im still getting these errors

let me guess, i need to add the missing finger bones?

and how do i fix the spine error?

[night ember]

what does the spine look like in blender

[somber sequoia]

yeah, though I'm not sure why your bones are oriented that way

[mental pawn]

in blender it looks alright

[night ember]

try setting it to generic then humanoid again ig

[mental pawn]

i fixed the T-pose one, but let me try that

[mental pawn]

you mean, setting up the bones back again?

[night ember]

in unity

set it to generic

then back to humanoid

[mental pawn]

it reverted my settings

oh well, gotta redo it

i re did it and hands got redded out

it didnt really fixed the spine problem tho

[night ember]

your spine isnt a child of the hip bone

[mental pawn]

yeah i fixed that but that didnt fix the other problem

this one

[vagrant dock]

Should I use a boy modle that a already made and just make clothes are do it from scratch. I'm not sure

[hidden shore]

Oriented in which way? Like it being so high up or elongated?

[night ember]

did you change it in blender or unity

[mental pawn]

i changed it on unity

well its not the one that i mean

its the one where this bone says that its to 0

let me bring up the other one

[night ember]

can you ignore that error?

[night ember]

does it actually prevent you from uploading

[mental pawn]

let me see, ill apply it and then upload it

it just needs texture re organization

[somber sequoia]

pointing any direction other than waist -> edge of clothing

[acoustic folio]

Im pretty fresh into blender. Could anyone tell me how to mirror that eye to the either socket?

[somber sequoia]

Is the eye its own independent object? do you want the second one to be a separate object, or more mesh in the same object?

(also #3d-modeling )

[acoustic folio]

Oh sorry thanks. Also yes it is, and no. I dont mind of their together.

[somber sequoia]

ok an easy way would be to put the 3D cursor at the origin, set the eye object's origin to the 3D cursor, then add a mirror modifier and apply it

[acoustic folio]

Thanks alot

[somber sequoia]

another way is go into edit mode, select all, duplicate, then with the movement orientation set to the 3D cursor (again at origin), mirror the selected mesh, it's in the "mesh" menu somewhere.

[mental pawn]

for some reason hands are redded out, BUT when i go and check there are no problematic bones

[somber sequoia]

do you not have hand bones in the slots?

[mental pawn]

they are already setup

[somber sequoia]

does that mean the answer to my question is "yes"?

[mental pawn]

yes

[somber sequoia]

is the hierarchy of the arms down to the hands not correct?

those being red means something is wrong about this, maybe post that whole window so we can look

[mental pawn]

hierarchy is setup correctly

okay

[somber sequoia]

I meant just the rig inspector one, and would normally want to see the "body" part expanded, but that all looks correct - show one of the hand pages instead?

[somber sequoia]

ahh there we go

you can't be missing that first thumb bone like that

you can be missing the distal one though

[mental pawn]

guess i could add a non deforming bone just to fake it

here we go again, its the 4th re import lmao

[somber sequoia]

or just put the bones up one slot

[mental pawn]

you mean adding the same bone to both slots?

[somber sequoia]

no I mean using the first two slots, not the second and third

[mental pawn]

oh

oh well

yes! it worked

[true sinew]

hello I was wanting to ask a question does anyone know how to prevent a world object on a avatar from moving when scaling example of what I am trying to do when at default scale my object spawns in the correct location in the world and stays in place however once I scale the object moves to a different location I have placed a scale constraint on the object and it makes it so it wont scale but the object still moves I have a parent constraint also on the object so it wont move but it still moves when scaling and in unity when I try it and scale the object does not move it only happens in vrchat

[zinc thunder]

is it possible to have the eyes attached to a bone that isn’t the head and have them look around?

[mental pawn]

this is the most cursed image i saw but why are the eyeballs not in place within the head?

like, i made sure that theyre boned. in blender this doesnt happen

but if its actually something from the rig itself, is there a way to fix it without reimporting back it all again?

[desert elk]

eye bones should be straight up

[mental pawn]

when the character is posed, this happens

it works in blender as i said but it breaks on unity

[desert elk]

unity expects your eye bones to be straight up

[compact dust]

what is bro lookin at

[mental pawn]

and that means, pointing upwards?

[compact dust]

its very interesting

[desert elk]

like this

[compact dust]

eye bones have to be up??

[desert elk]

yes

[compact dust]

weird

[mental pawn]

fuck, this is the 10th re import

[desert elk]

always have been like that

[mental pawn]

😭

[compact dust]

i dont do bones very often, definitely not human rigs, im not good with weight painting or bones

[mental pawn]

i kinda hate having to re-setup the bones all over again if something is messed up

[desert elk]

you can override the fbx

can you not?

[mental pawn]

and that means?

since what i do is to delete and re import

[desert elk]

open the assets in an explorer window, drag the new fbx in, select "override" or something like that

[compact dust]

or upload directly from blender to the same folder in unity with the same name, does the same thing i think

[mental pawn]

oh you mean merge

[compact dust]

thats what i do if updating an fbx

[somber sequoia]

oh only 10? heh.

Just export from blender writing over the same .fbx file

[mental pawn]

well it was supposed to be a simple (ended up not so simple) upload

lmao

ill have to re parent the freaking bone because its a little too messed up

now it works but its giving herobrine, is that normal?

[somber sequoia]

uh.... what?

[mental pawn]

the pupils arent straight frontward

[somber sequoia]

your bone roll for the eye bones should be 0, if it isn't. for all humanoid bones, actually.

(attempt 11)

[mental pawn]

how can i edit it?

[desert elk]

Blender

in the side menu (the one that shows up when you click N)

[somber sequoia]

click a bone (in edit mode), look in the "item" tab on that

[mental pawn]

ok

done

it was -360

LMAO

uh what.. I setted the bone roll to 0 and it still has the same issue

for some reason the eyes are facing downwards?

[somber sequoia]

check the eye look stuff in the avatar descriptor

[mental pawn]

oh thx, i just had to set it up!

[somber sequoia]

ahh, yup

[night ember]

you are missing the first thumb bone

[mental pawn]

Thanks, Someone told me that i just had to set the first one to be the base bone

Instead of the last two

Do the first two

[somber sequoia]

yep, no skipping bones

[mental pawn]

can i ignore most of these?

or how can i fix them?

[somber sequoia]

none are red so they won't block the build.

[night ember]

red stop sign specifically

since poor and very poor would also be red

[somber sequoia]

that first one may be an issue for you if you use FBT though

[mental pawn]

its medium rated, not that bad tbh

i have officially made my first ever avatar

[somber sequoia]

congratulations!

[soft thistle]

nicely done

maybe i should be able to achieve that goal too

the only part i'm still trying to work on is the 2d visemes

[distant ibex]

is uploading stuff being like really weird for anyone else

[soft thistle]

not me

[soft sand]

How do I get Unity to stop overdriving the bones for my avatar's hands?

[velvet junco]

getting this spammed in my projects console

anyone?

[somber sequoia]

does it persist after you restart unity?

[velvet junco]

yup

seems to be an issue with an imported unitypackage, trying to delete the folders that came with it

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's the next step

[velvet junco]

yeah, deleting it fixed it

thanks

[soft thistle]

still confused on how to animate the 2d visemes

[soft sand]

https://youtu.be/l--1c8QGpVw?si=8m_1hRfoKiOUvnHw

[verbal oar]

does anyone know how to accomplish a marvel rivals type shader?

its got this colorful background light

i was thinking i could put a very bright light onto the back of the character

but the light would still be on the back

unlike marvel rivals

the light is always on the edge of the character

[arctic ginkgo]

you can use poiyomi rim light i believe

i'm having a weird issue right now trying to test an avatar. I'm using gesture manager emulator, and when i go into play mode, open the FX controller, and select the avatar, i'm unable to see the live transitions in the animator, it just looks like normal. Does anyone have any ideas for what might cause this?

additionally, my contacts don't seem to be updating consistently

maybe this is an issue with gesture manager

nope, same issue with AV3 Emulator

[soft thistle]

i tried to animate the 1st viseme, it gets the mouth asset right, but it affects my character's textures

[arctic ginkgo]

yes this is unfortunately an issue with unity

the solutions i can think of are:

1. have your mouth on a different mesh
2. use shaders that call these properties different things
3. use a shader that allows you to rename the property (poiyomi allows this)

[soft thistle]

i could try those solution, but i'm trying to make this avatar quest-compatible