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[somber sequoia]

ah "texture set" is the term

yeah those at the upper-right

[inland seal]

Thats the head :/

Nice Uv map 😭

[somber sequoia]

are you in a mode where you can actually see the UV islands though?

[inland seal]

How do I access it?

[somber sequoia]

it's easy to see if you go into the paint mode where you can select islands or polys

[inland seal]

alr

@somber sequoia Is this what you wanted?

[rustic tide]

it works... but i cant seem to be able to shrink the close head so its not visible in the camera

[somber sequoia]

that's a good mode for looking at the UV islands, but you seem to be in 3D mode there, you wanted to look at the 2D view

[inland seal]

alr

[fallow gulch]

So you want to make it visible or invisible?

[somber sequoia]

HeadChop maybe?

[rustic tide]

thats what im doing

[rustic tide]

i want the head to not be visible in the camera

[inland seal]

I dont see a 2d mode unless youre talking about the UV map one

[somber sequoia]

yes

[fallow gulch]

You could maybe.. scale constraint if it is not the real head
If it is, then headchop mayhaps...?

[inland seal]

Its still same ;D

[somber sequoia]

I'd try to re-export the mesh

[rustic tide]

yea i have a scale constraint on it to scale with the real head.....

it does infact not scale with the head

[inland seal]

?

[somber sequoia]

from blender

[inland seal]

But its a custom one

[somber sequoia]

re-export the .fbx and re-load it into substance

[inland seal]

You want me to give it to you?

[somber sequoia]

... no?

[inland seal]

ok

Im just wondering how you will get that model

[somber sequoia]

I never said to give me the model?

[fallow gulch]

And it is only normal with this camera?

[somber sequoia]

Based on your pics of what's in blender vs. what's in substance, I'd re-export the FBX from Blender and reload that into Substance.

[rustic tide]

only with this camera, normal camera works fine

[inland seal]

ok

[fallow gulch]

You could try VRLabs' mirror detection, combined with islocal

To only scale it outside the mirror, only locally, when the camera is on

[inland seal]

@somber sequoia i found this

Where you can set the UV map

is that the place?

Ill try

[somber sequoia]

I see nothing about UV map there, but that looks like material settings

I'm not sure what you are trying to do here.

[inland seal]

nvm it didnt work

[mental estuary]

In Blender, export your FBX again. In substance go to edit -> project configuration -> select your FBX to force it to reimport. That usually works for me if there's changes that I've made

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's exactly what I suggested.

[inland seal]

a

thx

Ill try

[mental estuary]

There's 2 reimport buttons, and you never explained how

So I chimed in

[somber sequoia]

Sure, that's useful.

[rustic tide]

i straight up scaled the extra head to 0 0 0 and it was not scaled down in vrchat... not affected by any headchops or scale constraints

[inland seal]

Still doesnt work..

Maybe we can call so you will explain how to do that?

[mental estuary]

There's nothing else to explain. That's the steps to reimporting a mesh into substance painter

[inland seal]

Ye but the Uv maps still dont show

[mental estuary]

Why aren't you just using the regulus base. I'm sure they provide a substance file

[inland seal]

I want to make a custom one with Mayu body

[mental estuary]

Right, and the body and head will both have UVs already. So you can just merge the meshes and then have 2 materials already made for you in Blender

[inland seal]

Thats what I did?

I merged them together

[mental estuary]

Then the UVs will've been fine if they had separate materials

[inland seal]

They did have

But its broken and idk why

[mental estuary]

Did you combine the materials at some point and then separate them again?

[inland seal]

no

[mental estuary]

After lurking a bit I'm thinking it might just be better to start fresh, combine the meshes, leave them with 2 different materials, leave the UVs alone, and try to texture it then

[inland seal]

Its my 5th time ;D

[mental estuary]

Since if they stay with 2 separate materials, the UVs overlapping won't matter, and you can always combine the materials later by scaling the UVs

Your 5th time only combining the meshes and then exporting directly into substance?

Doing nothing to the materials or UVs

[inland seal]

Last 3 was doing UVs and materials

[mental estuary]

There we go... I'm suggesting to just combine the meshes and leave everything else alone

The 2 bases you're using should already have been UV unwrapped

So if you just combine the meshes, and export, and check in Substance, it will be fine. There will be 2 materials, 2 sets of UVs, no unwrapping for you to do

[inland seal]

So you just suggest me to combine 2 meshes together and not touch them ever again?

[mental estuary]

I'm suggesting to just combine the meshes and leave everything else alone for now

[rustic tide]

yea i cant get it to shink

[inland seal]

sure

[mental estuary]

Get the meshes combined so that you can texture it with the 2 materials, body and head, then you can think about doing mesh edits, and understanding UVs better

[inland seal]

How do I fill gaps between head and body?

Since F key doesnt work

It fills insides

[mental estuary]

Bridge loop

[somber sequoia]

select two edges and 'f' should fill between, assuming we're talking about a single mesh object.

[inland seal]

LoopTool?

Is that what you mean

[somber sequoia]

if not you could 'e' to extrude a new face then maybe snap the vertices to the other mesh or something

[mental estuary]

If you have both edge loops selected you should be able to do a bridge loop

[inland seal]

What is the hotkey for that?

[mental estuary]

Idk. I always right click then bridge loop

[fallow gulch]

That is weird

I don't think I have seen that happening before lol

[mental estuary]

It might be a built-in addon. I haven't touched my addons list in a while

[rustic tide]

and the only constraints im using are rotation and location constraints....

[inland seal]

Thats all I have

Do I need to Merge them 1st?

[mental estuary]

You need to be in edit mode and select the neck's loop and body's loop where you want to connect them

[inland seal]

?

[mental estuary]

Yes

[rustic tide]

how do i use the mirror detection.. i need to try it cause everything else i have tried dont do anything

[inland seal]

now?

what

[mental estuary]

Now you bridge them

[inland seal]

It doesnt let me

[mental estuary]

Also, yes, you should combine the meshes first

[somber sequoia]

again, you cannot make mesh between two different mesh objects

[inland seal]

Now it did

done?

Now I Eport and put in substance?

Export*

[mental estuary]

Now check the material list for that mesh

There should be 2

[inland seal]

There 4 since Mayu has 3

Do I delete once that arent needed?

[mental estuary]

Alright, sure, that's fine. You can figure out which ones to keep

Export the FBX, and import it into Substance

[inland seal]

ok

...

[mental estuary]

Select the other texture sets on the side

Check all of them

[inland seal]

Thats head ;D

[mental estuary]

And the others?

[inland seal]

This is body

[mental estuary]

And the other body?

[inland seal]

Hair

[fallow gulch]

I'm pretty sure you just merge the fx layer, and check for the value being less than 0
Though it is also worth to try out greater than 0, just in case

[inland seal]

Regulus hair

Im so confused rn

[mental estuary]

I'm starting to think this may be a problem with the head that you're using. Did you chop it off the original model?

[inland seal]

ye?

[mental estuary]

Did you touch any of the materials when doing that? Change any of the UVs?

[inland seal]

no

But whats odd is that I didnt touched Hair

And the UV is normal

[mental estuary]

At this point then, select all the head vertices and UV unwrap it

The body is perfectly fine

[inland seal]

sure

[mental estuary]

This should've worked fine if the UVs were fine with the original models. Maybe as an experiment you take the head's original model, chop off the head again, and check the UVs in Blender to see if it's fine or not

The body is completely fine, so I'm leaning to this being an issue with the head itself, or how you've detached it

[somber sequoia]

This image suggests it was already unwrapped in Blender though: #avatar-help message

unless I misunderstood what that was a pic of

[mental estuary]

Honestly Mystic, I'd suggest this at this point, cause that UV unwrap isn't very good

[inland seal]

Its fixed!

I can finally paint

[mental estuary]

Yeah, cause you unwrapped it manually

But that unwrap isn't very good

[somber sequoia]

you'll probably find it'll be difficult to paint well

but it's a place to start learning that at least

[inland seal]

:C

[mental estuary]

It's usable

But you might find things difficult or have worse quality

[inland seal]

Sure

I can try that

[rustic tide]

merge it with what? i installed it via vcc so im unsure were to find it

nbm i think i got it

[fallow gulch]

Yay

Merge it with your FX layer

[inland seal]

That worked @mental estuary

If I do just head

[mental estuary]

Right, good. So now merge that with the body, given that the body is fine

[inland seal]

UHhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Im scared it will break again

😭

[mental estuary]

Those UVs are fine

The body's UVs are fine

[inland seal]

mhm

[mental estuary]

So merging them together, everything should be fine

[inland seal]

By merging you meand deleting old head

and replacing it?

or what

[mental estuary]

Yes, or just taking a fresh copy of the body to be sure

[inland seal]

Sure

Ill do 2nd option

Oh wait

also

If I will add the filling between them

Do I need to put it in Uv?

The head and body

aka the gap

[mental estuary]

Not sure how Blender handles the bridging tbh

[inland seal]

Would be funny if thats the problem ;D

[mental estuary]

It looked fine in Substance since there was no white gap between the checkerboard

[inland seal]

True

welp

Ill try

[mental estuary]

You might need to unwrap that specific face loop, but that can just be put on the head's UVs since there's a ton of space

I doubt that would be screwing up the head's UVs though

[inland seal]

ok

Will Ctrl + P work?

Or I need to do Ctrl + J

[mental estuary]

J joins the meshes into a single mesh, then you bridge the vertices

[inland seal]

ik

Just asking wich is better

[mental estuary]

Pretty sure P separates, so

[rustic tide]

sooo... like this?

[somber sequoia]

ctrl+p is for parenting in some cases, not what you want to do here.

[fallow gulch]

Yeah, but make sure to also try Less than 0 as well, if greater than 0 didn't work

[inland seal]

Understood

[rustic tide]

i did try this thing it came with and made the animation under Mirror 0 0 0 to see if anything happend... it did not

[inland seal]

Welp

It broke ;D

same thing happened

[fallow gulch]

Yeah, this is the layer that decides which is the mirror

[mental estuary]

I'm stumped then. Sorry. No idea why merging the meshes would completely fuck the head's UVs

[rustic tide]

if its false its -1 if its true its 1..

[fallow gulch]

So yeah, the idea is clear, but in practice it is a bit odd

[inland seal]

I found the problem @mental estuary

[fallow gulch]

So make sure to try both I guess

[inland seal]

It breaks always when I Join them together

The joining is the problem

[somber sequoia]

breaks how?

[inland seal]

The UVs are stretching cuz it thinks its a whole model

[quaint hound]

heyooo everynyan

[rustic tide]

then just dont join them.... make them one mesh but dont connect the two pieces

[fallow gulch]

Just as a quick sidenote
If you join 2 meshes in Blender that have differently named UVs, the UV will be messed up
Make sure the UV names match 1:1

[somber sequoia]

UVs are going to be wrong after this, yes. We went over that

[fallow gulch]

Not sure if that is the issue, but that is a common mistake

[inland seal]

Really?

Ill try

[rustic tide]

its not their issue but its good to keep in mid

[fallow gulch]

Ye if you name them the same, they will join up into 1 UV

[somber sequoia]

Your body UV map is spread out over the whole 0-1 UV space, adding the head means you're going to have to do a lot of rearranging or a fresh unwrap

[mental estuary]

UVs can stack as long as they're using different materials

[somber sequoia]

oh are we still doing to materials? Okay

[quaint hound]

^

[mental estuary]

I was going to, otherwise it would get complicated for them to move the UVs around

I just want to get it working for them first

[rustic tide]

yea the local mirror thing does not work.... but it did break the camera

[inland seal]

OMG

@fallow gulch THX

[mental estuary]

UV names... Shall keep that in mind

[inland seal]

I will

[mental estuary]

Blender quirks 101

[inland seal]

So how much this took

Uh

7+ attempts

10+ hours

;D

[somber sequoia]

sounds about right

[inland seal]

😎

[mental estuary]

Hey, we troubleshooted each thing that could've gone wrong until we got to the solution

[inland seal]

Thx everyone for helping

[mental estuary]

That's how it goes

[inland seal]

Ye

Thx for that

I learned a lot

👍

[mental estuary]

Enjoyyy

[inland seal]

Yippee

Now I will put Armature back in place

and finally start working on him..

[fallow gulch]

Oh.. it should work.. but maybe not for this use case

This is tricky hmm.. maybe there is one more, more painful thing you can do

Giving the head you want to toggle a separate material, and using Poiyomi on it
It has a feature to hide / show things in various situations:

• Camera
• Mirror
• Real world

[rustic tide]

then i could do a local only matswap that makes it invisible to camera? or real world? depending on the layers i have on the camera i assume

also i still cant get postproccesing from the world to work on the camera

oh yea the headchop works when not looking throuh the camera

[fallow gulch]

Then I don't think you can have Post processing via the camera

And yes, you'd matswap locally to that mat to hide the head when needed

[rustic tide]

were in poi is this. i may be blind ;-;

[fallow gulch]

Special FX > Mirror

[rustic tide]

<3

[rustic tide]

thing hidden for camera in poi still shows up in the camera 💀

[fallow gulch]

What the heck.. lol...
Oh wait.. hide it in the real world

[rustic tide]

oh okay!

[fallow gulch]

Cause technically that's what you want

[rustic tide]

i see how that makes sense

[fallow gulch]

Yee

[rustic tide]

It works! now i only have one issue left!... this V shape is supposed to sit at 0.0.0 of the headbone and it does for others, just not localy for some reason

[fallow gulch]

Oh... interesting lol

Neat that you got so far though

Is the V shape head chopped?

[rustic tide]

no... that is position constrained to the false Head... and the false head is position constrained to a thing that is parent constrained to the 2 physbones.... (but only at half strength)

so i see how this can break

[fallow gulch]

Maybe put the V at the root of the avi, and add multiple sources?

One for the fake, one for the real

Zero offset

Or parent them to head chopped empties on both head

That shouldn't give you issues cause of scaling

[rustic tide]

this is an evil circle of parenting to make it work

i forgot a line were horn center goes to head ghost aswell

im honestly suprised this mostly works, except localy

[fallow gulch]

Yeah... maybe try to make it a bit more simple, cause the constraint might be giving up

As it did when we were messing around with the Ragdoll system, with VRC Constraints

At some point, some constraints just did nothing lol

[misty lagoon]

Desperately need help getting eye tracking working on a booth avatar that is for-sure compatible with it. Spent days and tried to do everything myself before asking for help and this is my first exposure to Unity/3d modeling, so I'm pulling my hair out a bit.

I'll cover the jist of what I've done and if anyone could be so find to find the holes.

(Quest Pro)

downloaded VRCFT, have it running while game is up, is sending and receiving data successfully, detects "2 parameters" and the avatar itself.

steamlink tracking data port is set to the same output, all OSC/tracking toggles on (as far as I can tell)
in-game VRC OSC toggled on.
eye tracking debug is on showing that the eye tracking is actually functioning in the headset (along with the eye tracking calibration), but the avatar is just not doing it in VRC

(i've been using steamlink so far because fairly easy to get working, but i did buy virtual desktop)

I think it may have something to do with the avatar itself but I have no idea how to approach that, but from some research it should have the things it needs for eye tracking to work

[rustic tide]

it works. just offset by half a meter sideways and thats what im confused at for now LOL.... cant really think of a simpler way to do this

[fallow gulch]

As long as you only do this locally...

[wraith geyser]

hello,
i'm trying to fit in the 10mb quest limit. I used to use this https://vsk.lox9973.com/abstat/
to visually see wich parts are the biggest in memory usage (models or textures)
but it doesnt seems to work anymore, or vrc changed the vrca folder maybe?
so here's my question.
Do you know how to use this tool again? or do u use a similar tool? thanks

[rustic tide]

thats a sus link

[pine valley]

eh, seems fine -- you're just uploading an asset bundle to the site

You should get a build report in the editor log after running a build

[wraith geyser]

its not but you dont have to click it anyway, the people who used to use it would recognise it

[pine valley]

you could have a look there

note that it'll tell you the uncompressed sizes of the assets

[somber sequoia]

I wouldn't send my avatar to a sketchy site like that.

[pine valley]

it has a very cute :3 root page

i'd trust it with my life

[balmy barn]

just use buildsize or read unity editor log

[pine valley]

yeah, you can search for the build report in the log

(restart the editor to start a new log file if it's a giant mess)

[rustic tide]

update... reuploaded the avatar and its randomly fine now

[wraith geyser]

thanks for your answer but im a bit confused, where can i find this build report pls

[balmy barn]

android have it too now i guess, not ever tested it in 3.7.6

[pine valley]

oh, neat, i never knew about that "open player/editor log" button

[rustic tide]

and thanks for the help tohru you have been a big help!

[fallow gulch]

Glad I could help ^^

[wraith geyser]

thanks, but geez i miss that tool

waiiiit if i use the offlinebuild and manage to find the vrca file i could still use that tool i suppose

[lucid rapids]

Sos

[balmy barn]

buildsize viewer can still read after

(wonky)

[fathom fossil]

the rig for this model has no upper chest bone so will it still work?

[somber sequoia]

yes, that's optional

[desert elk]

yes

mhm, optional, just like toes

:)

[inland seal]

Small problem. How do I fix this?

The small part of neck isnt attached to a Neck bone

[sick ice]

Im not sure what the issue could be but it does this everytime i import it to unity. Does anyone know how to fix it? The left is unity, Right is blender

[inland seal]

?

Check if its set to Pose, If it is then put it on rest

[sick ice]

where do i find this?

[wooden zinc]

hey anyone know where i can find the new fake index gestures at all i see it on almost all the avatars i find nowa days-

[sick ice]

nvm i found it

[inland seal]

Set to rest and try again

[sick ice]

alr

[sick ice]

nope it didnt work

[fathom fossil]

fuck you mean

[inland seal]

aw

Then idk ;D

[sick ice]

its all gooood. Ill try and look more into it. thanks

[wooden zinc]

u got to name other stuff in blender like say u had two heads , like skin meshes you would need to name then different like head 1 and head 2 (sorry if that doesn't make that much sense

[fathom fossil]

i mean idk but i hope it still works in game

[wooden zinc]

could be blendshapes

[inland seal]

A

[wooden zinc]

what did u do that lead up to that point if u dont mind me asking?

[inland seal]

I merged head and body together

then add a fill gap between them

using LoopTools

Aka Bridge

[wooden zinc]

did u waight paint it at all?

[inland seal]

no

All blue

I checked

[wooden zinc]

do u have the cats pluggin? by chance?

[inland seal]

no

[wooden zinc]

with cats plugin you can merge armatures easily without extra struggle

it also could be the lack of waight paint

[sick ice]

should i just delete the blendeshapes thats on that part of the body?

[inland seal]

Where do I download one?

[arctic ginkgo]

I wouldn't recommend using cats tbh, it can break models

[wooden zinc]

im not a 100% sure to be frankly with you

i use cats all the time it never broke my stuff but thats just me

[arctic ginkgo]

its intended use case is for getting MMD models ready for VRChat

[somber sequoia]

weight paint. remember that just because it looks blue doesn't mean that vertex's weight is exactly zero.

[arctic ginkgo]

if you're not working with MMD it's not very useful and can break things that are intentional

[somber sequoia]

do not rely on the color for accuracy

(you can see weights for a vertex in the Item tab of the n popup sidebar)

[wooden zinc]

i have all of this if it does help anyone- but yeah weights is verry useful when doing stuff like that

[inland seal]

?

[somber sequoia]

great tool, but that's not of any use for Mystic, without a mesh to transfer weights from

[inland seal]

Is there smth odd?

[sick ice]

IF i delete this modifer it will work but than the bones wont move with the mesh?

[somber sequoia]

no weight data is shown here

[inland seal]

where is it then?

[wooden zinc]

brb

[somber sequoia]

I don't have a clue what mode you're in or what you clicked, but this is what one of mine looks like:

[inland seal]

Are you in object mode?

or edit

[somber sequoia]

why would I be in object mode to click on a vertex?

[inland seal]

Eh

[inland seal]

Where is that?

[somber sequoia]

literally where I said it was

[inland seal]

But it doesnt look the same

[somber sequoia]

this is Blender 4.3.2, the object has an Armature modifier and that vertex has weight. I don't know what you have.

[inland seal]

I have 4.4

[somber sequoia]

ooh I didn't realize that got released

[inland seal]

It got an hour ago

[somber sequoia]

excellent

[inland seal]

I cant find this

[somber sequoia]

maybe you have no weights on whatever you clicked, or nor armature modifier

[inland seal]

I have?

So what do I do now?

[somber sequoia]

just verified that's there in blender 4.4 for me as well.

and not for a vertex with no weight

thus the vertex you clicked probably has no weight.

[inland seal]

Is that good?

[somber sequoia]

if you don't want it to move with a bone, yes. You probably do, since this is an avatar, so no, that is not good.

[inland seal]

mm

Do I got to weight paint and add weights?

[somber sequoia]

yep

[inland seal]

Oh damn

It worked ;D

I feel dumb now

[somber sequoia]

not dumb, just new 🙂

[inland seal]

yey ;D

I was always thinking that not having weightpaints is good

but if it breaks then its the oposite

[somber sequoia]

yeah, without weight, a vertex will not move along with a bone.

[inland seal]

Mind explaining why a head can

Just want to learn ;D

[somber sequoia]

it can't

[inland seal]

But its blue too

[somber sequoia]

but everything else can, leaving a vertex in place

[inland seal]

hm?

[somber sequoia]

dunno about you but I can't distinguish between the blue that's a weight of 0 vs. .0001

[inland seal]

huh

It matters?

if its so small

[somber sequoia]

0 won't move. .0001 will move.

[glad dirge]

When making an avatar which of these packages should be enabled? (I wanna do stuff like toggleable accessories and functions in 3.0 menu as well)

[somber sequoia]

the ones you have so far are required, the rest are optional.

[night ember]

Thats all you need

[inland seal]

damn

[fiery crow]

would recommend gesture manager if u wanna test out toggles youre making

[night ember]

Av3 manager would be better than gesture manager

[somber sequoia]

I use AV3 emulator and AudioLink and Avatars 3.0 manager

required? nope.

[fiery crow]

i use both sometimes

but gesture manager usually my main

[night ember]

Wingmandraws' editor camera is also good to have

[fiery crow]

gesture manager is alot more user friendly tho

for beginners imo

[night ember]

Av3 has been pretty user friendly to me

[somber sequoia]

I greatly prefer AV3 Emulator but with Gesture manager to have the in-game-look of the menus

[night ember]

Everything in it is well documented/named

[somber sequoia]

it's good to have options.

[inland seal]

Oh cmon 😭

It is set tho

[fiery crow]

yeah i love the menu, if i want to test params i usually just make debugs params or manually tick it

[somber sequoia]

click "configure" and verify everything is right

also unmap the jaw bone unless you use it

[inland seal]

I dont

It seems fine

[somber sequoia]

check that the bones in the slots are correct, don't just glance at the picture

[inland seal]

ok

[somber sequoia]

sometimes you see the armature root in the hips slot, sometimes a weird bone where it shouldn't be

[inland seal]

They're correct

[night ember]

dont have meshes named the same as the bone

[inland seal]

I dont have any

I got this now

[somber sequoia]

yeah don't waste your time trying to build with that error

if this was an update to an existing project, you may have to switch the rig to generic and apply, then do the humanoid setup from scratch.

that's synced parameters. if what you deleted were not synced then they wouldn't change that number

[inland seal]

I feel even more dumb

Since I uploaded a new version of the avatar and changed its name the name in VRC Controller didnt change

So it was 2.0 not 3.0

😭 The weight paint didn't help. Its still broken and doesn't follow the bone

Ima wait for help ;D

[glad dirge]

How do I get rid of these toggles in the 3.0 menu. I wanna keep the clothes on for now but I don't want the toggles in the 3.0

[left gull]

remove the options in: whatever the clothing menu is named, the parameter list and your FX layer

[glad dirge]

tyyy

[primal wind]

Does anybody know why unity doubles my tri count?

[somber meadow]

Do you have keep quads on in the mesh settings

[primal wind]

I can check

No

[somber meadow]

Oh that's the old cats plugin saying that

use the Blender statistics overlay instead

it only shows what tris it has of what's shown

[primal wind]

Weird, I don’t know why it does that. The cats plugin showed everything

[misty lagoon]

is there any reason that changes i make to a re-uploaded avatar in unity will reflect but after a little while or changing avatars to and back to that avatar will make it seem like my changes are being ignored?

(in vrchat)

[somber meadow]

Security checks queue is back most likely

[misty lagoon]

like I changed a bunch of the variables on physbones to reduce sway/movement, and it will reflect in vr chat initally, but after changing avatars to something else, then back

its like, ignores those changes i made

[somber meadow]

the older bundle is being used as the newer one hasn't been checked by server processing

[misty lagoon]

what's the fix to this?

[somber meadow]

waiting

if there's too many avatars being processed at once, a queue starts

are you saying the avatar goes back to the original bundle after it working once?

[somber sequoia]

what is "VRC Controller"?

[inland seal]

A Vrcfury thing

[somber sequoia]

ahh

[inland seal]

This is still broken. The Weightmaps didnt work

I remade the model

But still nothing

I was jus hoping that maybe I did smth wrong

I mean I did smth wrong

Idk what I did wrong

[somber sequoia]

is this ^ image in Blender?

[inland seal]

ye

s

[somber sequoia]

in what mode?

[inland seal]

Pose

[somber sequoia]

what'd you do, move the whole avatar to the side, and those vertices remained in place?

[inland seal]

mhm

[somber sequoia]

go into weight paint mode on the body mesh, move the avatar just like that, then you'll see the verts sticking out. Weight paint them to the appropriate bone.

[gloomy flint]

how is it getting worse

im sorry just everytime i glance in here to see if youve figured it out, the neck stretches even farther into the distance

[quaint hound]

hi hello Hello.

How can I help

[misty lagoon]

okay so im trying to reduce the jiggle on the characters chest.

i go and change a bunch of the variables in her physbones for her chest (pull, momentum, stiffness etc)

I upload the character when its what I believe to be more acceptable.

i open vrchat, go to a mirror and test it out. huzzah, boobs no longer sway around like crazy. happy.

10 minutes later, or after changing to and from another avatar, the chest now sways around the way it did before any of all that.

[inland seal]

Idk ;D

[gloomy flint]

actually cursed by Ra

[inland seal]

How can I move avatar in weightpaint mode?

[somber meadow]

Is this the open beta?

[misty lagoon]

open beta of what

[somber sequoia]

Ideally you just rotate bones, but you can move them around. move the root bone or something

[quaint hound]

of vrchat

[misty lagoon]

idk i just download from steam

[somber meadow]

just the game client

does it say "Open beta" next to the play button in steam

[quaint hound]

this is normal person speak for "no, im not on the open_beta branch of VRchat"

[misty lagoon]

proud to be normal

[somber meadow]

all I'd try is see if clearing content cache fixes the issue

this issue just sounds like it's not user-sided and VRChat itself is not delivering the right bundle then

[misty lagoon]

maybe i do a fully avatar delete, reupload

[somber meadow]

you could also try a new avatar id yeah

[glad dirge]

I removed the files for the tights and now the legs are gone. How do I replace em with just bare legs for Manuka

[gloomy flint]

oh my god

ok so you need to go to your blendshapes

[somber meadow]

those are shrink blendshapes, double click the body so it's hightlighted in orange, expand the blendshapes option, and find the blendshape responsible for the legs

[somber meadow]

usually on booth models they should be along the lines of X_BodyPart or Shrink_BodyPart

[gloomy flint]

i think Manuka uses Shrink?

hilariously ive seen some avatars have a blendshape like "Arms On" and if you turn it to 100 the arms shrink for clothing

and its like.. yup.. arms.. arms are definitely on i guess

[somber meadow]

It's better having a blendshape at 0 by default anyway

anything above 0 would be a skinning performance issue

[gloomy flint]

its just a weird naming scheme for the shrink shapes tbh

[inland seal]

I cant move them

[somber sequoia]

go watch tutorials on weight painting

[inland seal]

I watched

Ik the hot key

It doesnt work for me

Idk why

[somber sequoia]

what hot key?

[inland seal]

Ctrl + R Click to select a bone?

Atleast thats what they said in video

[somber sequoia]

huh, news to me

er, isn't it ctrl+shift click now?

yeah

[mental estuary]

Every blendshape, 0 or not, is kept in VRAM. The only way it becomes better for performance is if the blendshape is baked using something like VRCFury's Blendshape Optimiser

[inland seal]

a

[somber sequoia]

you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means

[mental estuary]

I understood that reference

[somber sequoia]

🙂

[mental estuary]

insert captain america

[somber sequoia]

no.

[somber sequoia]

yeah since Blender 3.3? or so it's ctrl+shift click

[somber sequoia]

Princess Bride

[mental estuary]

The understood that reference is a reference to captain america

I was doing a meta-reference

[somber sequoia]

I must not know that one

[somber meadow]

You shouldn't have blendshapes constantly activated or they'll add more to the skinning pass

[mental estuary]

First avenger's film when they're sat in the helicarrier

[somber meadow]

Blendshapes have more than just VRAM impact

[inland seal]

Still nothing 😭

[glad dirge]

Uhhhh I honestly cannot find anything like that 💀

[somber sequoia]

still works for me

[somber meadow]

that looks like a face mesh

you selected the wrong mesh

[inland seal]

Cant you watch my stream?

[gloomy flint]

click on like

[inland seal]

I could show

[gloomy flint]

the arm

[mental estuary]

Exactly, so if everyone uses blendshape optimiser there's no issue

[gloomy flint]

where are you streaming then

[somber sequoia]

huh I think I saw that when it was first out, I definitely don't remember that scene

[somber sequoia]

no, I'm doing my own stuff

[inland seal]

sad

[somber meadow]

but either way it's not too big of an issue, this is mainly touted for blendshape heavy animation systems. This was more of an issue back in Unity 2018/2019 days

[mental estuary]

moves blendshape from 0 to 0.0001
pc explodes

[gloomy flint]

if i could see-

[inland seal]

OH

OH SHI

[gloomy flint]

lol-

[somber sequoia]

hey look at that very dark blue ring right there

[inland seal]

It was in chest :D

[somber sequoia]

I think I know what that means

[inland seal]

Ye ;D

[gloomy flint]

click on like.. the arm

[inland seal]

I think I need to erase it ;D

[somber sequoia]

no you need to paint it.

[gloomy flint]

that isnt the arm

double click on the arm

that'll pull up the body mesh

[inland seal]

wouldnt any work?

but sure

[somber sequoia]

any what?

[inland seal]

nothing

[gloomy flint]

you need to see the orange outline around the body itself

[glad dirge]

I got itt

[inland seal]

:0

[gloomy flint]

there ya go

[inland seal]

Its gone :D

[gloomy flint]

Ra has forgiven you, mystic

[inland seal]

Not for long

I will texture soon

;D

[rustic tide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/670325400718540843/1351630860797083688/2025-03-18_19-57-25.mp4?ex=67db13d5&is=67d9c255&hm=df136777dbc079581f14c649909044dd7f835312c397b9a885fa34506fa3a7be&

@fallow gulch hahaha so it works in the editor..... but uhm

[gloomy flint]

lollll

[rustic tide]

oh it dont imbed

[inland seal]

Ok now I can 100% say that Its done and no need to help anymore :D

After 2 days of pain I did it

[gloomy flint]

good

[rustic tide]

essentialy... when horn L is grabbed horn R flies into the bvoid together with the bone both are parent to... and i cant really see why... horn L and R are only parentd to the one that is being grabbed... the grabbed one is not parented to the ungrabbed one

[glad dirge]

Now another issue I'm prob gonna be asking for help a lot cuz this is my first time and I can't find anything about some of this on youtube lol

the hair does not stick on the model

it's just floating

[somber sequoia]

how did you attach it?

[glad dirge]

good question idk how :( I just put the hair in

[somber sequoia]

ah so if it's just sitting there it's not actually attached

use a thing like VRC Fury's armature link, or Avatar Dresser or something

[pine valley]

yeah, you have that armature directly stapled onto the root of your avatar

it'll follow your root around just fine, but it doesn't care about what your armature is doing

[fallow gulch]

I see.. it kinda.. works

You may just have to mess with the parenting I guess

[gloomy flint]

usually manuka uses Modular Avatar

but the prefab itself on the store page should have a dependancy listed like VRCFury, Modular avatar, smth, that tells you how its installed

[nocturne lintel]

I would highly suggest using blender to merge the armatures if you plan on only using this hair

[gloomy flint]

zen does NOT need all that-

they need the package that the prefab uses to attach

which is again, most commonly Modular Avatar

[nocturne lintel]

Why not be destructive for the sake of saving in performance?

[gloomy flint]

its a booth avatar

[nocturne lintel]

Again IF you are only using this hair, merge the armatures.

[glad dirge]

Yea I got the hair attached to the head now but it clips through

[gloomy flint]

its already shit in performance lol

[mental estuary]

It wouldn't save performance. The hair would still use a separate material, which still counts as another draw call

[nocturne lintel]

You can remove the old hair bones

[mental estuary]

Merging meshes in blender is only better for performance when you merge the materials as well

[gloomy flint]

add a collider in the chest, capsule shape could work well, so that the front hair rests on that

[pine valley]

How did you do this?

[nocturne lintel]

You are merging the armatures properly, lowering the bone calculations.

[gloomy flint]

oh wait it has one

[pine valley]

Depending on the hair's armature, it might be unavoidable

if it only attaches to your head, then it can't really know what your chest bone is doing

[glad dirge]

ahhhh

[gloomy flint]

@ Zen in the hair's physbones, add the CHEST collider to the physbone colliders

[pine valley]

Ah, yeah, see what that does

Some hair setups will actually attach to your spine/chest/neck bones, so they deform properly

But they could also just use physbones

The former is more likely if the hair was made specifically for your model

[gloomy flint]

considering theyre front bits, its probably physbones so that it can technically work on multiple avatars

yeah

[nocturne lintel]

That will only work if their chest collider is well mapped, and it will likely collide through their shoulders, as the chest collider is just a capsule.

[gloomy flint]

they can still try it and see if it works.

it should though

[nocturne lintel]

If the hair is made for the model, it likely has compensation baked in via shapekeys

[rustic tide]

i just dont see why it flies into space.... ill remake it tomorow. this was a learning experience... did try one thing and im gonna test if it works on vr now

[nocturne lintel]

For example a Breast Enlargement shapekey to push the hair to lay flat with the breast.

[gloomy flint]

found the hair prefab it seems it uses colliders too so checking the hair's blendshapes would be a good idea too

[glad dirge]

Uhhh idk if I did it right but there's no chest sooo idk if this is the right thing lol

[gloomy flint]

can you

show the whole screen

and not a tiny snippet taken out of the context of the rest of the project

i have no idea where this collider is placed

[desert elk]

or meshes
nvm I misread

[gloomy flint]

...

[glad dirge]

a one sec

[nocturne lintel]

This is a manual collider placed it seems.

There are some colliders that VRChat generates for you

[gloomy flint]

remove the collider, theres already one on it

manuka has a chest collider, i saw it earlier in the project too

[nocturne lintel]

Those being Head, Chest, Feet, Hands, and Fingers

[gloomy flint]

you need to go through the armature until you get the Chest bone

[nocturne lintel]

Or you can t:Script on search.

[glad dirge]

alr I found chest

[rustic tide]

only for the fingers (atleast that physbones interact with)

[gloomy flint]

ok there IS a collider on it right

[nocturne lintel]

No component there

[gloomy flint]

https://tenor.com/vmhBSOXcewp.gif

where is that collider attached what

[nocturne lintel]

Looks like those colliders are on the breast

[gloomy flint]

god dammit i dont have link embeds for my squint gif

[nocturne lintel]

Again, t:Script

[gloomy flint]

this is where you put it to find all the scripts, which includes physbones

[nocturne lintel]

You can also t:VRCPhysBoneCollider

Unless they changed the MonoBehavior name

[gloomy flint]

it should work since t:VRCPhysbone brings up physbones

ok so you found the chest, keep that on hand and go into the Hair's physbones alr

you need to find this section of the hair's physbones on each component

[nocturne lintel]

ChestC1

[gloomy flint]

you open up the dropdown called Colliders, and you put 1 in there, that will open up a box below it where you put ChestC1

[nocturne lintel]

You can also just drag it on the Colliders name to add it automatically

It’s an Array type

[glad dirge]

Ok I'm lost mb y'all uhhhhhhhhh

[glad dirge]

how do I get to here

[gloomy flint]

you go to the hair's armature and find where the physbones are, OR you type in t:VRCPhysbone to find it

[nocturne lintel]

Find the hair physbones for the front sideburns

[gloomy flint]

those are bangs 😭

[nocturne lintel]

Bangs is too broad

[gloomy flint]

sideburns are very specific

thats shaved down hair in front of the ear, its masculine as well 😭

bangs is any hair dangling down from the front of your head past the ear

[nocturne lintel]

I am aware, just using quick lingo for the front longer hair piece

[gloomy flint]

If you changed Radius, undo that

[glad dirge]

alr

[gloomy flint]

all you need to change is the thing called Colliders

[glad dirge]

oh like this

[nocturne lintel]

Yep

[gloomy flint]

yup!

[nocturne lintel]

Go into play mode and you should see them push forwards

[glad dirge]

do I do the same thing with the back part of the hair

[gloomy flint]

you can but its not really needed i'd argue

the reason your bangs were clipping into your chest is because the physbones use gravity so they were pulled downward from their default position

[nocturne lintel]

and because the Armature structure changed for the Physbones, the calculations became different also

Scaling bug.

[glad dirge]

ok now that works but now I can see my front bangs in my face and it still has the same issue with that part

the other parts work tho

[nocturne lintel]

Head collider?

[gloomy flint]

how did that even happen

all we did was add chest collision to the bottom bangs what did you do 😭

[nocturne lintel]

Wait wait wait

Pause

If you can see your bangs, then the hair is NOT a child of the head

Could you crouch

[sterile pike]

can someone help me with this please ;-;

[glad dirge]

yea I fixed it but now the bangs are hair is doing the silly again :<

it'll collide with the chest but I even checked

[nocturne lintel]

Mmhmm

Okay

Did you up the breast size?

[glad dirge]

no that's default lol

[balmy barn]

0 radius, not going to collide with anything

[nocturne lintel]

Ah yep

Set that to equal the width of the visual hair

I thought it had a value earlier

1?

[gloomy flint]

it looked like they changed it from the actual default

[balmy barn]

0.01 ish usually or you have a odd scaled avatar , mostly i just use angle limits so no collider needed

[gloomy flint]

usually things like that are set to below 1 but not zero

but they had highlighted the box blue and 1 seemed like it would be too large for it normally

[nocturne lintel]

You will see a capsule collider when you up the number

Make it mimic where the mesh is

Can someone uh, less programmer what I said…

I can’t think of how to explain this in english without using components

[gloomy flint]

slowly up the number from 0 like

0.001, and if its too small, 0.005 and so on until the green shape lines up size-wise with the bang

[nocturne lintel]

That

[gloomy flint]

and then once that's done, it'll rest on top of your chest collider instead of going through it lol

[nocturne lintel]

Curiously, re-examine the image of their capsule collider Michael

It kinda looks like it is forwards a lot

Can’t tell due to the angle tho

[gloomy flint]

not really

its at 0/0/0 with a height raise of .03 which is about normal

[nocturne lintel]

Yeah, maybe I am hallucinating

Not sure where the bone alignment is on Manuka

Or where this child is

[gloomy flint]

ur chill

[glad dirge]

even with the collider stuffs at 0.01 and all that

[gloomy flint]

i think its more of a case of zen accidentally touching things without realizing it 😭

[glad dirge]

it still doesn't wanna do anything

[gloomy flint]

,,,

w,,

why are they stiff-

are they actually moving?

[glad dirge]

no

it's stiff

[gloomy flint]

what happened

[nocturne lintel]

That…

[gloomy flint]

how

[nocturne lintel]

Yeah, can you turn on the visualizer

In the circle menu

“Action” Menu

[gloomy flint]

actually

easiest way to put it

is to open your expressions menu, the circle fella with the tabs right

go to Options, aka press up

and then go to Avatar

Overlay

Physbones

[nocturne lintel]

^

[gloomy flint]

in game btw

not in unity

[nocturne lintel]

I always called it the circle menu, forgot it’s name lol

Expression Menu

[gloomy flint]

its also called the Radial menu

[wraith geyser]

buid and test now works for android too!!
... kinda

[gloomy flint]

fear..

[nocturne lintel]

Is ADB working properly?

That looks like the SDK is seeking for a device to me.

I know with Worlds, the daemon will hang, needing you to relaunch Unity

Maybe Avatars has the same issue?

[somber meadow]

This only applies if you use the android build of VRChat on a Phone and have an open ADB server

The creator docs has information on how to use it

[wraith geyser]

awww i see thank you

but is it supposed to get stuck on build like this? should i force quit?

[raw spindle]

quick one, how do you move the menus that VRC fury adds, like the gogoloco stuff, say i wanted to move that into a seperate submenu how would i achieve that?

[gloomy flint]

on the prefab itself there should be a thing about menu placement

hold on

you put where you want it to be under Prefix

[raw spindle]

ohhh so the prefix is the location?

[gloomy flint]

so if you have an outfit toggle and you want it under Clothes, you would put Clothes/

yup!

[nocturne lintel]

Force Quit, you are hung

[raw spindle]

alright, thank you

[gloomy flint]

np!

[raw spindle]

do you know how to turn off some parts of the shading with a mask?

with poiyomi toon

[glad dirge]

alr it got physics and stuff now but

when I move it's too much

[gloomy flint]

maybe take a video instead of a photo?

[raw spindle]

mess with the physbone settings, specifically the ones that have spring, dampness

[glad dirge]

I don't see anything about spring or dampness

[gloomy flint]

show this part of the physbones in unity

[wise crater]

I need help

Can somebody help me

[wise crater]

Can somebody help me

[gloomy flint]

can you state what you need help with.

[wise crater]

I don’t know how to make a body for my avatar

[gloomy flint]

blender

[wise crater]

I got that

[gloomy flint]

i dont usually mess with physbones toooo much so if anyone here helping atm with zen knows what each setting does, feel free- i usually only work with the gravity and limits lol

[magic yarrow]

Does anyone know the name of this tail and where I could buy it?

[glad dirge]

Well I copied what u did with angle lol

it doesn't do it as much

so that helped

[gloomy flint]

here hold on let me change my settings to smth

let me mess with my settings and if i find a combination that could work for you ill send it

bc i wanna emphasize those are for an apron my bob wears lol

not hair-

perfect found a combo

try this

note if it moves weird because o the angle limit, change 16 to -16

.. i forgot the slash would obscure the minus

[raw spindle]

so i managed this, but i do wanna know if its too much sparkle

[gloomy flint]

never too much sparkle :)

[raw spindle]

crazy

alr

[nocturne lintel]

My suggestion is to port the original values sans gravity values from the prefab

That is if the values Michael provided aren’t doing too well

[gloomy flint]

i usually put on gravity for hair specifically 1 because it looks nicer when you tilt youe head in any way, and 2 in my experience it helps it look more natural in how it falls tbh

just a wee bit tho

[nocturne lintel]

Sorry, I was meaning their Gravity, not just no gravity lol

As in the prefab creator gravity values

[gloomy flint]

which is 0 lol

[nocturne lintel]

Oof

Wait

If it is 0

[gloomy flint]

the lemon hair has 0 gravity thats why i put some on it 😭

[nocturne lintel]

How..

[dry ibex]

why does blink/sleep expressionm shapekey not fully close in unity

[somber meadow]

what does your model's import settings look like

[dry ibex]

export? like blender

blender expoirt settingsd?

[somber meadow]

click the mesh file in Unity, and screenshot the inspector

[gloomy flint]

are you questioning how it was going through the shoulders earlier without gravity bc honestly im unsure too it looked like a gravity issue since it was only in-game but then issues kept turning up lol

[nocturne lintel]

Yeah

[nocturne lintel]

Exactly

[somber meadow]

in the model tab

[nocturne lintel]

Now I am absolutely bambooled

[gloomy flint]

welcome to modular avatar where it sometimes works if you press the right button

[nocturne lintel]

Yeah, I hate MA and Fury for this very reason

[gloomy flint]

Fury's easier imo and harder to break, but fair

[nocturne lintel]

A simver change to the base model could break like, everything

[gloomy flint]

Fury's main issue is it accidentally allows lazy creators to backdoor 'solutions' that break everything else

[nocturne lintel]

I am hardcore Blender to Unity

[somber meadow]

enable legacy blendshape normals, it's required to be on for uploading to VRChat anyway

[nocturne lintel]

Every poly/bone/material is ones I deemed needed

[gloomy flint]

the only thing i use MA and Fury for is putting on props n such

not hair, or clothes, too hard and too easy to break

a pair of headphones or a fun new locomation tool i found? sure i'll use MA to put that on

[nocturne lintel]

Yeah, I do use Fury for GoGo

[uncut lotus]

Not really avi avi I guess, but If i update bledner, will it still let me use CATS plug in and save my progress on my current Avi im working on?

[nocturne lintel]

Depends

Are you using CATS community?

[uncut lotus]

think so ya

[nocturne lintel]

So yes, but you will need to reinstall it

[uncut lotus]

Ight

[dry ibex]

it didnt work

[somber meadow]

it might be weld vertices since that mesh looks fairly compacted

[nocturne lintel]

All of your scene settings and such are saved in Blender’s blend file

[uncut lotus]

I saw a vid talking about new things blender was adding, and wanted to try some of them out, but I wasnt sure if it would affect the CATS plugin

[uncut lotus]

Thank god

thx

[dry ibex]

didnt work 😔

[nocturne lintel]

Could you do me a favor and move a vertex really far away as a new Blendshape.

[dry ibex]

me?

huh

[nocturne lintel]

Yes

[dry ibex]

Oh ok wait

just a random one on the eye?

ok

[nocturne lintel]

I wanna see if the Blendshapes are being under-driven.

[dry ibex]

like this or something?

import into unity?

[nocturne lintel]

Yee

And see if it is only moving x% as much as it does in blender

[dry ibex]

Ok heres how the blendshape looks in unity

[nocturne lintel]

Seems 1:1

Hmm, can you show me the Shape Key in Blender

The sleepy one

[somber sequoia]

What exactly do you need help with then?

[nocturne lintel]

This is so weird…. For the hell of it, could you reverse the Shape Key

[dry ibex]

huh

[gloomy flint]

thats a dude.

[dry ibex]

how do i do that

[gloomy flint]

also is it sad i recognize that its a homestuck oc

[dry ibex]

IT IS

[gloomy flint]

lmaooo

[dry ibex]

a commission for my friend actusally

yea

[nocturne lintel]

See the dropdown arrow there on the side of the shapekeys

[dry ibex]

huh

[desert elk]

you good?

[nocturne lintel]

[desert elk]

mm

[gloomy flint]

damn you made the avatar 1:1 with it, thats amazing dawg 👏

[dry ibex]

yes

[dry ibex]

yes

[dry ibex]

thank you

[nocturne lintel]

There should be a set shape key values as basis

Or the like

Kinda going from memory

[nocturne lintel]

Right click the shape key maybe?

where’s my Mac when I need it

[nocturne lintel]

Pause, what version of Blender you on?

[dry ibex]

its ok if i cant fix it tho, i hasd this problem with one of my othyer avatars anbd i just didnt feel like fixing it. really greatful for ur help though

[dry ibex]

3.6

[hoary sparrow]

Anyone willing to make me an avatar that I could pay for?

[dry ibex]

i keep crashing on the newer version

[nocturne lintel]

I got this, Gimmie a moment to nab my mac

[balmy barn]

scammers are all willing to take your money and deliver nothing

[somber sequoia]

Go to the VRC Traders discord, link is in #1204490664637890580 .
And beware of all the people who are about to DM you trying to scam you.

[hoary sparrow]

I tried to join it and got banned for pressing the verify button. Explain how that makes any sense

[somber sequoia]

I have never been there so I have no idea.

[desert elk]

i joined without any problems 🤷

that's weird

[frigid void]

Is there anyone here that would be able to help me with an avatar, I would like to replace some parts of a body with bones (Im going to make a zombie) and Im just not sure how to do that

[nocturne lintel]

Well, I guess that could work, can you set Blink to 1, the press, New Shape From Mix

That will essentially clone your blinking blendshape

[dry ibex]

Okay

did it

[nocturne lintel]

Now try with that new blendshape

If it gives you only half again, slide the second one and see if that does the whole eye

If it does then it seems that only half the weight is supplied to the blendshape

If it is stuck, then the issue might be normals or something else

[desert elk]

go to blender, delete the parts you want to replace, connect the new ones
it depends if the skeleton has bones and is weight painted already

if it has bones you can just merge the armatures

[dry ibex]

i suppose its culling 😭 thank you for your help though

[nocturne lintel]

Uhh

Well, if you lemme get home, I can help you fix that on my main computer

As I will have access to blender and Unity

[frigid void]

How do I delete just certain parts?

[desert elk]

go to edit mode on the mesh

and select the parts you wanna delete

[dry ibex]

No its okay ill figure it out thank y9ou though

[desert elk]

using the L key may be helpful

[nocturne lintel]

Aight np

[frigid void]

Ok thanks!

[stone trellis]

Stupid question but how do i remove the quest compatibility of a avatar and make it pc only again

I tried updating it again for pc only but the green quest icon was still there in game

[vernal charm]

not sure if this is the right place to ask but every time i try to open project from vcc it opens the actual unity app menu and tells me i don’t have any projects

i’ve been able to use it before so idk why it’s doing this now

[desert elk]

there isn't a way to delete only the quest version to my knowledge. You will need to open the PC version in unity, detach the blueprint ID and upload it again. Detaching the ID will make it be uploaded as if it were a new avatar

[stone trellis]

And where can i find that

Im in the project rn

[desert elk]

check vcc settings if you have the correct unity version and if it's connected

[desert elk]

same place where you placed the avatar descriptor. Click on the avatar in the hierarchy, and in the inspector scroll till you see Blueprint id

[stone trellis]

Im not seeing it anywhere

@desert elk

[desert elk]

can you show a screenshot of what you're looking at?

[stone trellis]

Im scrolling through my avatar prefab