avatar-help

[grizzled glacier]

hey im trying to set up robocaps electric v2 can i get some help

ive watched the videos but im still lost af

[somber sequoia]

Viseme is for VRChat telling you which viseme it wants to use. What you do with that information is up to you.

details here: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/

(because it works differently for each case)

[keen igloo]

Ah okay, it does mention the jaw bone too in that

So.. now my other question though
How do I add them in and connect it to the mask?

I assume I add the Viseme Int to the parameters list

[somber sequoia]

Correct

[keen igloo]

But I'm not really certain how to attach it to the toggles

[somber sequoia]

it depends on what you want to do with it

[keen igloo]

A simple change of the jaw flap range when the mask is toggled on

[somber sequoia]

you can't change what vrchat does with the jaw flapping. You can disable VRChat's control of it and then animate it yourself.

[keen igloo]

Well yeah I assume that's what I need to set up

Or do I need to make both ends custom?

[somber sequoia]

ends?

[keen igloo]

how it behaves when the mask is off

and when the mask is on

[somber sequoia]

unless you already have animations for the "mask on" case, yes, you will have to make those.

VRChat handles the "mask off" case if you don't disable it via VRC Animator Tracking Control

[keen igloo]

I did already make a custom animation for the talk range when on, so atm it's mostly just not knowing how to add it

[spark walrus]

is there a way to remove/shorten the "fade in" transition for dances/animations? I have an avatar where the animation is completely fine everywhere else, but for some reason in vrchat it distorts the model a lot during the fade in (but it's completely fine once it actually does the animation). The animation starts in a fairly neutral pose already so I wondering if I could just remove the fade in, it's less than ideal but I can't seem to fix this issue so it's the next best thing 🤷‍♂️

[somber sequoia]

click transition, look in inspector at the transition times

[spark walrus]

the thing is I set everything I could to 0

also tried turning off fixed duration after

[balmy barn]

i dont trust 0 , so mine lowest is usually 0.1

[somber sequoia]

heh yeah 0 can sometimes be weird

[spark walrus]

alright I'll give it a try

[limber hedge]

Does anyone know if it's possible to change what blendshapes visemes use when you toggle an expression?

or make a gesture

[night ember]

I mean its something you make with an animation to begin with

there isnt a default expressions tied to gestures

[limber hedge]

that I am aware of

my issue is that on certain expressions the lipsync gets all messed up due to some blendshapes not mixing well

[night ember]

then animate it

[somber sequoia]

So yes, if you do all of the viseme animation yourself rather than relying on VRChat to do it

[limber hedge]

thank you, I'll try to figure that out

[somber sequoia]

what I've seen some do is go the other way around - use the speaking volume variable to control how much to do the expression.

[limber hedge]

how does that work?

[somber sequoia]

perhaps do less expression with more volume

or none

[limber hedge]

(I'm total ass at Unity, this is the first time I actually play around with gestures and expressions)

I'll try to figure it out

[night ember]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/

[keen igloo]

Funnily enough I'm struggling to figure out how to do that myself @limber hedge
It feels like people keep stopping short of explaining how to put the things together 😩

[somber sequoia]

generally what you'll get here is hints and clues, not a 100% solution that fits your unique problem exactly

[keen igloo]

Well all I can gather atm is I somehow use the animator tracking control to disable the avatar descriptors built in talk
Then somehow connect my custom talk animation to play in it's place
And somehow connect those both to when the mask is toggled on

When I tried asking a few days ago, another mentioned something about motion time and blend trees

So.. basically I just got like a pile of ikea furniture that's missing a instruction manual

[somber sequoia]

for part two you make a new animation layer which runs based on the Viseme parameter (or whatever) and does whatever you want when you want it to happen.

We don't know what you want to happen or when, so it's hard to give you more of a clue than that

[keen igloo]

I thought I gave a pretty straight forward answer though

[night ember]

more like you bought ikea furniture and are now trying to build something else using the pieces

[somber sequoia]

something we don't know the shape of, but probably you do

[keen igloo]

mask toggles on, and plays a different jaw flap animation when speaking

I don't feel like it's that complicated of an idea compared to some of the wild things I've seen others do with the animator

[somber sequoia]

add more visemes, etc.

I assume you can probably guess what conditions are used in the transitions too

[night ember]

I mean you could make it transition from anystate

[somber sequoia]

yep, could do that too, this is just one way

this way though you can use the "mask on sil" to disable tracking and "vrchat speaking" to enable it

[keen igloo]

Is the vrchspeaking empty, or does it have the animation tracking on it?

[somber sequoia]

all that does is set the face/jaw tracking to "Tracking"

the "sil" one sets it to "Animated"

[limber hedge]

Dang I feel like I need to learn an entirely new language just to do avatars lmao. I'll just keep to simple expressions for now.

[somber sequoia]

well also disable the mask in the tracking one

[night ember]

if you really wanted to you could just not use the avatar descriptor's lipsync at all

[somber sequoia]

(then you can talk about write defaults on or off and.... yeah...)

[somber sequoia]

yep, also an option!

I did this in like 30 seconds, so 🙂

[night ember]

or if you are doing an expression just dont lipsync
or have it auto disable the expression if you talk

[somber sequoia]

also I've tried that and wasn't as happy with it as I wanted, so when I did a mask, this is what I did.

[keen igloo]

I've only really done basic toggles and texture swaps so far with the animator, so going beyond is black magic to me atm 😅

[night ember]

beyond is just stacking basic toggles on basic toggles

[keen igloo]

So uh.. is this a good start?

oh woop dang thumbnails

[somber sequoia]

you want "Tracking" for VRChat controls it and "Animated" for you control it.

[finite karma]

so....why does the ear bones is removed when i attach other bones of my earring ?

[night ember]

well its now technically a "root" bone since it splits off to an earring

just tell the physbone to ignore your earring root bone

[finite karma]

how ?

[keen igloo]

That is an aggressive amount of bones

[finite karma]

there is only one bone per metal ball for the chain

[keen igloo]

I probably would of just two bones at most for the whole thing for optimization

[night ember]

thats an excessive amount of bones

[finite karma]

yeah, i have try with only two bones but the chain dont work like chain and more like a stick with that

[night ember]

Id personally use 3
2 for the chain so it can actually bend/warp and then 1 for the snowflake so it independently rotates

[keen igloo]

With some clever weight painting, you can make even one bone be enough to make a smooth bend

Basically just having the weights spread across further between what ever the root might be and the bone ya want to move it around

[finite karma]

i dont know well how weight paint, i mean, i dont even use blender for my asset XD so i start to think maya bones is not good for unity and other blender bones

[finite karma]

that dont work ;-;

[keen igloo]

Oh hm.. I assumed that's what that slot was for

[finite karma]

i have tried with the ear root and the bone root

[snow sandal]

I'm trying to replace the Idle animation on my avatar. I thought I needed to place the animation in the Upright Idle State of the IdleAction control and then place this controller in my avatar's Additive Base layer. However, this doesn't work. How do i change my avatar's Idle animation ?

[spark walrus]

You set the ignore transforms to 1 or 2

then drag the bones you want to ignore into there

[finite karma]

so the ear bones ?

[keen igloo]

Yeah, that should be what ya need

[finite karma]

dont work either

[keen igloo]

The action layer also has some spots for the idle animation
Also the locomotion

[finite karma]

even this one broke, and bone is rigid

when i disable the physbones

[snow sandal]

Ah I tried the action to no avail. But I'll see what the locomotion layer does 👍

[keen igloo]

It has a blend tree for standing, and there's a idle stance in it

[snow sandal]

So I've tried replacing the StandStill_idle. Now my avatar does a weird walking animation which is neither the default idle or the one I placed in the blend tree. In addition, strafing left is now broken

🤔

[keen igloo]

Seems like you might of moved the idles position

It should be 0, 0 at the center

[balmy plover]

chat why is my avi hand tracking at the forearm area instead of at the hands 😭

[snow sandal]

I'll try this fix. Although I did duplicate the LocomotionLayer controller that comes with the latest SDK.

[surreal sinew]

I need help can someone upload for me 🧍I bought it already

[desert elk]

that's most likely against tos of the avatar creator

and don't give people your password

[surreal sinew]

I don’t think so🤔cuz they have people in server that upload

[night ember]

[snow sandal]

All fixed thank you kind traveller 🙏

But now I wonder, what the heck does the IdleLayer do 😂

[desert elk]

you still shouldn't give out your password to strangers online

[balmy plover]

i just uploaded this avi, and in game when i have my controllers straight out in front of me, the hands are pointing upwards and it seems like its tracking at the forearm/wrist area of the avi instead of the hands. any idea why this is happening?

[keen igloo]

Alright so I feel I might still be missing something, but this is what I've fashioned together @somber sequoia

[somber sequoia]

I'd probably do a blendtree between those 0 and 100 states

[desert elk]

bones in the wrong spots?

[balmy plover]

they look and work just fine in unity and blender

[keen igloo]

Oh yeah, another did mention something about blend tree and motion time

[balmy plover]

my inital thought was for some reason its tracking at the lower arm (elbow) bone instead of the wrist but i have no idea how to tell if its that

because its moving right at where the elbow bone ends

[keen igloo]

Is there any yellow errors in the builder about "so and so bone isn't the second bone"?

[desert elk]

you could try going to blender to fix it

you'd need to remake the bones that are currently first children

since bones are arranged alphabetically in unity

[balmy plover]

how would i do that? ive never had this issue ever i dont know how to do any of that 😭

[desert elk]

can you send a screenshot of the hierarchy? the arms and the leg parts

[balmy plover]

in blender?

[desert elk]

I'd assume those go in front of the children list in unity

Because L alone comes before LE when arranging stuff alphabetically. Rename it to something like LZ_...

that seems to fix problems like that for me

[balmy plover]

thats the unity version

[desert elk]

yeah, I was right

rename them so they go at the bottom

[balmy plover]

so i rename all those bones in the ss you sent to something like LZ_Bicep?

[somber sequoia]

I put a ~ prefix on mine,

[desert elk]

this or that

[desert elk]

and do that for both of the arms! (I haven't seen the right, but it could have the same thing)

[balmy plover]

so, just to make sure ive got this right, L_ZForeArmTwist renames to LZ_ForeArmTwist, L_ZBicep changes to LZ_Bicep, L_ZArm_Twist goes to LZ_Arm_Twist, etc?

[cyan torrent]

how do I actually make new anim here?

[night ember]

the proxy anims arent the full animation

[balmy plover]

click the dropdown right below the record buttonand hit "create new clip"

[desert elk]

yeah, that should work

[cyan torrent]

oh? where are them

[cyan torrent]

didn't work, if I do that on my model it just face blend anim

[desert elk]

oh you want body animations

[cyan torrent]

yeah like making new walk anim

[lucid rapids]

hello , is there a way to make like a toggle to switch between both textures in the photos ?

[balmy barn]

matswap easiest , theres alot of other ways using a shader

[night ember]

depends on the shader you are using cause either material swap or use something like poiyomi that has decal support

[lucid rapids]

sorry guys i'm not that much in unity , " matswap" does someone have a explanation how to do it ?

[balmy plover]

record your base state, and go to the second frame, then on that second frame drop on your new material. then take that animation and set it up as a toggle

[balmy plover]

well i tried renaming them in unity, did nothing

[night ember]

or just animate you swapping the material int he slot of the avatar

[balmy barn]

hit record , drag another material on where you want to do something , toggle thingie

[lucid rapids]

ohhhhh

[desert elk]

oh that's weird, consider the ~ Kazin suggested?

[lucid rapids]

okkkk thank you all <3

[balmy plover]

and i just went back to do that and it didnt even save my changes

[desert elk]

wdym?

[balmy plover]

it re-named them all back to L_Z whatever instead of LZ_whatever

[desert elk]

how are you renaming the bones?

[balmy plover]

i did it in the rig configuration at first, then i just redid it in the scene hirearchy instead this time and it still has these (replied message) errors

[desert elk]

you need to rename them in blender

cause it sounds like you used unity

click armature, edit mode, green bone on the right, somewhere there you'll get a box to change the name in

re-export into unity

should work

[balmy plover]

im about to tweak out, i just had to drag them because i unpacked my prefabs

[desert elk]

...

[balmy plover]

im gonna go cry in the corner now

[desert elk]

do not unpack your prefab

[balmy plover]

yeah i know its a bad idea

[somber sequoia]

do not unpack your avatar prefab

[desert elk]

it will most likely cause you problems later on if you ever wanna modify the avatar

[balmy plover]

i know this was a one time thing, and im never working on this avi again 😭

i usually never unpack them but i made a dumb mistake of not putting my head mesh in the top of the list and really didnt want to go back to blender (head not being on top was causing issues with detecting visemes) so i just unpacked it

[quaint hound]

does anyone have a clue on how to properly texture fur 😭

[somber sequoia]

I used a fur brush in Substance Painter at one point. You can also use Warren's fur shader instead of texturing

[quaint hound]

ok wait let me rephrase

by fur i dont mean normal maps

or whatever type of other maps

i cant find a good example

[somber sequoia]

yeah you'd have to explain somehow then

[quaint hound]

i need help especially with

fur transitions

[balmy plover]

welp nevermind issue is still happening in game

[quaint hound]

ie the transition between fur color 1 to fur color 2

[quaint hound]

i hope you enjoy my masterfully crafted example

i have issues making this transition effect look actually good

[somber sequoia]

do you have an art gallery? I would like to become a patron.

[quaint hound]

atm i have sharp transitions, so basically straight lines where the fur immediately changes to the other color

[somber sequoia]

anyway, I'm not sure what that has to do with fur I guess

[quaint hound]

texture painting 💔

im trying to learn how to texture good fur patterns on avis

[somber sequoia]

are you intentionally making such sharp edges?

[quaint hound]

no,, i want like a way

to blend them in a waay that looks natural

[somber sequoia]

blur brush?

[quaint hound]

thats just like a

blur between colors

[somber sequoia]

note that I am quite far from this kind of artist 🙂

[quaint hound]

im trying to recreate this

does that make more sense 😭

[somber sequoia]

sure

[quaint hound]

im not a traditional/digital artist either

💔

[somber sequoia]

I usually have my partner do the classic artsy stuff.

[quaint hound]

is there like a relatively easy workflow to do that type of texturing

[somber sequoia]

dunno, I tend to mess around with blur/smear brushes

[quaint hound]

honestly like a

[somber sequoia]

but I don't do a lot of avatar texture work

[quaint hound]

smear brush that doesnt blend colors might work?

that way i can "drag" strands of fur over the other

do that mak sens

does that even exist/is that even a thing that works in substance

[somber sequoia]

if you put the two colors on different layers, then sure, you can do that in subtance

[quaint hound]

oh yeah i like

have different layers which use masks

so i dont technically paint anything i just edit the mask layer

[somber sequoia]

yeah that seems a good workflow for most things

[quaint hound]

the layers are all just completely filled in colors

mfw cant find a good cat avatar base

[balmy plover]

i got rid of those two error messages that should have been causing the tracking issue, but its still happening 😭

[quaint hound]

why cant i just meow in peace and be silly 💔

[keen igloo]

https://youtu.be/zXaUTwhVIRI So by random chance someone did make a video recently showing how to set up a custom jaw flap outside of the descriptor

[cyan torrent]

when i lower my body my avatar go up, how do i fix this?

[cyan torrent]

like is there something wrong with what is count as "ground level" here?

avatar height just average to the hip when my height change

[flint sundial]

yoo

can someone help me with this?

I have an issue with gogoloco

[desert elk]

what issue?

[flint sundial]

this is the issue

I put gogoloco on the avi

and its js broken for some reason.

[desert elk]

broken how?

[flint sundial]

idk

[desert elk]

I just see it running

[flint sundial]

I tried reimporting it

and it did nothing

[desert elk]

again, what's the issue?

[flint sundial]

I could show you in a call

[desert elk]

No

[flint sundial]

hmm

Idk tbh

[desert elk]

if you can't explain what the problem is, how can we help you? send a video if you think that's better

[flint sundial]

ill try

There

bro.

It didn't work

[desert elk]

you used vrcfury to install it?

[flint sundial]

yes.

[desert elk]

did you put the prefab in the correct spot?

[flint sundial]

yes

i dragged it into the avi

[desert elk]

I can't offer more help since I don't use vrcf

[flint sundial]

welp./

[somber meadow]

Show the avatar's descriptor

[flint sundial]

wdym?

[somber meadow]

Before VRCFury runs

[flint sundial]

Im confused

[somber meadow]

outside of play mode

[flint sundial]

its not in playmode

[somber meadow]

Your avatar shouldn't have VRCFury animators before VRCFury runs

[flint sundial]

it does

yOu wanan see the animator?

[flint sundial]

would you be up to call?

Idk how to do this imso sorry

[glass geyser]

so, I have seen avatars like, have these effect symbols on their face with their expressions, like for example, the common angry symbol on their face when they're mad. I've been thinking about adding stuff like that to my avatar, but don't know where to begin. avatar creation is still new to me.

I figured it's related to adding particles to the animation of the expression or something, idk. is there a guide to help me start

[left gull]

if its non-animated (like it just appears on the face and doesnt move or anything) then its likely just a normal blendshape

[glass geyser]

Oh ok then

Yeah i do remember now when i put a base i have that had those, theyre stored in the head. So in this case, how would i attach it to a blendshape of the animation then

[desert elk]

edit/record the animation and activate the blendshape

[dry flicker]

how do people have animated shirts

[desert elk]

one animation can in fact use more than one blenshapes

[dry flicker]

like how do I make a shirt with a gif

[void kettle]

I did this but it didn’t help 😭

[carmine delta]

im new to avatar creating and need some help modifying an avatar

can someone might be able to help me

[desert elk]

what do you need help with? also check this out first https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495

[carmine delta]

i need help to put a asset on my avatar and i cant seem to find the right guide

[desert elk]

okay, what asset

more details

[carmine delta]

might you be able to hop on a vc with me it would be easier for me

[desert elk]

No

[carmine delta]

ok

well i got a crowbar and want to put it on my avatar

and i dont know how

[desert elk]

https://youtu.be/XqtSg6_W07Y?si=-6KstMkC_ecsgGUz

there you go

tutorial for a prop toggle

if you don't want a toggle and want it permanently on just don't do the animation steps

[keen igloo]

https://i.gyazo.com/e4b034bef4b24688005e4d7b0282e584.mp4
@night ember @somber sequoia
Changing the default to a custom animator definitly made it easier to eventually figure out
Now it's split off to it's own separate toggle

[somber sequoia]

hah, that came out great!

I love how low poly it is

[night ember]

beautiful also that AA looks like you are about to scream at me in smoke detector

[somber sequoia]

haha

[winter lark]

Whenever I try to upload my avatar, this pops up

[somber meadow]

read the first popup

you need to upload the PC version on the same VRCFury version

[neon osprey]

This may be a stupid question. But I changed this avatar in blender a bit and it seems to be missing whatever this is when export it. I feel like it may be connected to why this happening when my avatar moves but I am bit lost.

[somber meadow]

Set the model's rig to humanoid

or just overwrite the original FBX (make a backup of the creator's version)

[neon osprey]

How and where do I do that? o.o

[somber meadow]

click the model file, and look in the inspector

[somber sequoia]

but reading is hard!

[neon osprey]

Ok I managed to create one 🙂

I've just deleted the old Armature, Body and Hair from the old fbx with the new FBX to avoid having to create all the Physbones from scratch is that the right way?

It seems to apply it but once I delete the old FBX from the project and try to use the gesture manager the models disappears XD

Basically what I want to do is is swap out the newly sculpted model with the old one.

[somber sequoia]

assuming you haven't unpacked the avatar prefab, simply overwrite the .fbx file

[neon osprey]

I can try that

Hmm its still the same :<

Maybe I messed up the bones in blender somehow but I only sculpted and weight painted so not sure

[somber sequoia]

hard to say from here, but I do that successfully literally every time I upload an avatar

[neon osprey]

its weird tho cause the problem only occurs once I start gesture manager as if something is being applied

[compact dust]

chat it's time to crash out because of bones again

[timid kite]

i added this prop to my project and it has its own bones and mesh. how would i attach it to my hands and add phys bones? ive only added things through blender before

[compact dust]

but it under the hand bones

so like

Wrist
Item

smth like that

[timid kite]

i want to do everything from this object. im familiar with settings up things through armature link also

[compact dust]

wdym "everything from this object"

[timid kite]

but do i add armature link to the object or the armature of the object?

first of all i need an armature link

[somber sequoia]

you link the object's armature to the avatar's armature

[timid kite]

and add phys bones on fans armature?

[compact dust]

hi kazin

[somber sequoia]

yeah on the object, if that's where the bones are

[timid kite]

ty

[compact dust]

kazin are you busy w/ anything important

[somber sequoia]

one might say that everything I do is important.

[compact dust]

agreed

[somber sequoia]

sometimes it's very important to be sitting on the couch sipping a cocktail

why do you ask?

[compact dust]

sounds like a good friday night

so if i could send you a simple fbx i made could you try making it an armature/physbones, because at this point i think it's the mesh thats messed up
it deforms whenever any form of physbone is applied

i thought i fixed it yesterday but it deforms even with 0 weight painting on the parts that deform

[somber sequoia]

that sounds like work

[compact dust]

if you could test just the 6 frills (6 bones) and a physbone component is all

not anything too in depth

or i could just take a video of it

[somber sequoia]

you could

that sounds like way less work (for me)

[compact dust]

ik its not the weight painting at least

cus all bones have it set to 0 except the needed areas

[tame badge]

Hey, how do you solve the go go loco bug with Davali?

[somber sequoia]

which bug?

[compact dust]

there are many bugs with gogo loco

[tame badge]

My legs are completly disabled with it and just hang stiff. I know its a known thing with Davali but I'm having trouble looking it up and not just getting genatic results

The curse of a hyper specific problem

XD

[somber sequoia]

oh I hadn't heard of that

but there's a discord for those avatars, I'd ask there

[sterile cedar]

how do i fix my int toggles, for some reason i have to deselect the toggle and select a new one for the stuff to actually properly switch
id like to just be able to switch toggles without having to deselect them

[compact dust]

using vrcf?

[sterile cedar]

no

[frail temple]

Is there a way to preserve transparent/cutout pixels when atlasing a texture or should i just make them a separate texture/mesh?

[timid kite]

this is supposed to be replacing my avatars stomach. i added mesh from blender but no clue how to proceed.

[compact dust]

combined the meshes, or make a blendshape that deletes the stomach from the body and adds that?

or make a version of the body that has that, and then a toggle that switches between the normal body and that version mayb

[somber sequoia]

you mean your texture file has alpha transparency? Make sure the tool you're using to atlas supports that.

[compact dust]

btw here's ze video kazin, sadly the answer is not weight painting

[somber sequoia]

what am I looking at here?

[frail temple]

Yeah, the Skirt_Split and Inner_collar/Outer_collar textures have white pixels to represent alpha transparency, but when atlasing, all the whtie pixels turn completely black, and i can't find a tutorial to fix that

[compact dust]

only the frills/feet have physbones
the body is not supposed to deform

no bones are on the main body part

those parts move correctly but main body does not

[somber sequoia]

so the bit that kinda sticks out pointedly when you grab it and move it?

[compact dust]

yeppers

[somber sequoia]

seems obviously something weighted in a way you aren't expecting

[somber sequoia]

possibly the tool you are using does not do RGBA textures

[woeful holly]

at least, fixed neck problem! thx so much to help!!!!

[compact dust]

yeah which is what i thought
but then going to check weight painting in blender, nothing is painted incorrectly

all the parts that should move are at 100% (or however much) and the parts that should not move are 0%

[somber sequoia]

hmmm

[compact dust]

thats why i was askin you abt takin a look

cus maybe im just messin smth up and i dont see it

[somber sequoia]

Sure, send me the .fbx

[frail temple]

I am actually straight up stupid, the video says disable alpha because we don't need any transparency pixels, somehow that went through one ear and out the other in my case...

[somber sequoia]

mmm hmm.

[marsh sundial]

Can someone teach me how to create an avi

[compact dust]

#avatar-development-links message

[frail temple]

https://youtu.be/bSwMz4WcajQ?si=4LlyqXPglyvGVlDh

[compact dust]

or that

[frail temple]

practice with already premade avatars, unless you like pain then practice with game ports which you'll have to weight paint and rig yourself

and if you really like pain then make an avatar from scratch

[marsh sundial]

what I was tryna do lmao

[marsh sundial]

any sites I should visit to test premade avis?

[frail temple]

i think gumroad has some, i also used sketchfab, just make sure whatever you're getting is Vrchat/VR Ready

[marsh sundial]

alright

[sly birch]

I'm running into an issue where my viewpoint in unity and game don't match up for some reason . in game it's way higher than it was set to in unity

[glass geyser]

ok, so a big problem I have here is I'd like to make some changes to my avatar's blendshapes to like add some stuff I can toggle with it, but thing here is that requires exporting the fbx and I know for a fact when I've done that and import it back in, the physbones are gone.

[compact dust]

copy paste the physbone components?

[somber sequoia]

a) don't unpack your avatar prefab
b) don't unpack your avatar prefab, really.
c) if you want to do crazy things you can put your physbones in empty game objects not in the armature and they any changes to it won't affect them, other than having to update the root transform. You can even do fun stuff like making them into a prefab.

If you don't make drastic changes to the armature when you do the export, it should be just fine in most cases.

d) if you did unpack it, you can use Pumkin's Tools to copy everything en masse to a new packed avatar prefab. Or do them one by one like Michstan said

[glass geyser]

oh, I see. I'm mainly speaking from experience when I had to use an fbx of the model optimized for android/quest but as a result the tail and everything else stayed static. this time it's just so I can edit the pc version. I'm just new to all of this so it's very confusing

[somber sequoia]

yep, it's often easy to do it wrong, and lots of older tutorials teach bad practices

[compact dust]

especially since a lot of older ones use a different version

so some stuff is different

[glass geyser]

ok, so in this case I know not to unpack it, but all this time I could've saved the physbones of it and put them back on the model in unity?

cause idk how to do that

[compact dust]

copy paste is an easy way

[somber sequoia]

I put all of mine into a tree of game objects, then make that into a prefab, and so I can have the same settings for each avatar in the project. You just have to drag the right bones into the "root transform" slot (because the component isn't on the target bone)

so it's not quite saving but more planning ahead for potential disaster, or just sharing settings.

pro tip: you can do this with constraints and colliders too

[marsh sundial]

lwk can I get like an avatar creatiion tutor

[compact dust]

https://youtu.be/bSwMz4WcajQ?si=4LlyqXPglyvGVlDh

[somber sequoia]

I'm sure such a thing would cost money

[marsh sundial]

true

[queen nimbus]

is there a way to see all parameters inclouding MA und fury ?

[fast fox]

How can I edit skins, such as changing the color?

[compact dust]

image editing software
blender

procreate, microsoft paint, wtv works

[fast fox]

Do you have the link?

[compact dust]

to?

[somber sequoia]

gimp, krita, substance painter, armorpaint, the list goes on and on

[compact dust]

krita is paid isnt it

at least on steam it is i think

[somber sequoia]

I didn't think so but I don't use it

[compact dust]

on steam its $10 but im p sure you can get it for free from the website

[ornate stump]

Krita is free download form their website.

[compact dust]

i dont think they're the same version tho

[fast fox]

mn and there was a website that had options and one of them was world and editing the color was https://xanxys.github.io

It was this one but it's no longer working to edit skins. I wanted to know if there's one that still lets you change the color.

[compact dust]

just use an image editing software

or blender

[fast fox]

where can i see this?

[compact dust]

see what??

[hazy sphinx]

how do i import a model so it has textures?

[ornate stump]

You need to setup material in unity.

[compact dust]

import fbx and import texture

make a material

[timid kite]

i removed all bones from the hair and attached the mesh to the head. now when i move hips, hair doesnt move with it. help

[ornate stump]

You need to keep the hair bones.

[timid kite]

im making opti so no

[compact dust]

yeah it has no bones to attach-?

[timid kite]

can somebody please be actually helpful. thank u

[compact dust]

maybe listen and it will help

[ornate stump]

Then you must weight paint to head bone.

[somber sequoia]

wait, you want the hair to move but don't have the bones that make it move? yeah this doesn't work

But if you just want it to move with the head, you'll need to weight paint that mesh to the head bone

it'll probably look janky

[timid kite]

head bone was the one i wasnt sure about. thank u. ill paint the head bone

[proper storm]

anybody know about writing shaders?

writing my own and they render fine in one eye and are off the screen in other eye

[somber sequoia]

#shaders - you need to support single pass instanced

[upper ermine]

Anyone know why the avatar i'm making is autofalling on entry? Even if i'm grounded and not jumping, it still plays the fall/jump anim right after the entrance anim. I have to jump to make it stand normally again. It's a generic rig, not a humanoid one, just using anims ripped from the game

[somber sequoia]

Y velocity 0 is greater than -2

I'm not sure what you meant to do there

[upper ermine]

Copied transition reqs from a sample animator in the sdk

[fast fox]

Can someone send me the editor or link to it so I can edit the skins, I just want to change the color?

[upper ermine]

Just floats on entry after the cry. Jumping fixes it and it works fine then but it's just a bit annoying

[somber sequoia]

what editor? They are image files you can use any image editor you want.

[somber sequoia]

right because when sitting idle, Y Velocity is 0, so that condition for jump would be true

[fast fox]

and an editor where I put the link of the skin, it appears, I take the parts and go to the paint app and change them

[upper ermine]

Changed -2.001 to 2.001, now it works fine... so i wonder why the sample had it negative. thank you

[somber sequoia]

possibly other coordinate system

[somber sequoia]

without having your model we couldn't possibly tell you what or where to edit

[compact dust]

hi kazin

[somber sequoia]

But generally the colors come from textures, which are image files

[fast fox]

it was this one https://xanxys.github.io/mev/ so it doesn't work anymore it stopped

[somber sequoia]

ooh I thought that was spanish but it's portugese

no idea what might have been at that link

[fast fox]

Is there anything I can do on my mobile?

[ornate stump]

Why would you do it on mobile? You need a PC to use unity to create avatar so just use PC app to editor your textures as well.

[snow goblet]

quick question, how do i fix outline sizes with liltoon shaders getting really broken after exporting from blender?

[ornate stump]

Apply scallings, FBX All.

[snow goblet]

appreciated

[grim valley]

how do i have automatic blinking stop? i use vrcft and its messing with it

[ornate stump]

Unassign eye blink in avatar descriptor.

[grim valley]

i do but it still does

did*

[somber sequoia]

do you have an animation doing it?

[ornate stump]

Then it should not have blink, unless there's still custom blink in FX layer.

[grim valley]

wow. im so stupid its literally RIGHT in front of me

sorry yall

[somber sequoia]

happens to all of us!

[grim valley]

one more q, should i keep my lip sync control? im ngl i dont have a clue what ti does as this isnt my avi, was given it cuz i use it alot and just wanted to add haptic+FT

[frail temple]

Why does this happen when baking? For some reason, the front face textures and Upper chest texture along with several others get mish mashed

Doing the head by itself works, but doing the body by itself doesnt

[desert elk]

woah, so complicated

[frail temple]

figured it out

also when seperating meshes, they retain the textures of ALL the meshes, so you have to delete this

thank you blender

Is it better to keep transparent textures seperate or to put all transparent textures in a seperate Atlas?

[night ember]

I mean it supports different levels of transparency so together

[desert elk]

teah, together

I put all mine together

[night ember]

I only separate what I dont want to make a global mask for

[frail temple]

Oh so i put the transparent textures with the non transparent textures in the same atlas?

Sick

[hot magnet]

keep transparent materials seperate from opaque

[frail temple]

Oh

[hot magnet]

this will avoid triangle sorting and transparency stacking issues

you'll also avoid doing a lot of raster overdraw

[night ember]

My avatar's entire body is opaque so that is its own uv then I have my shirt, earring, and glasses lenses on its own material since they are just solid transparent squares with different opacity levels
Then my wings have a separate material since they use the fresnal alpha setting in poiyomi which I didnt want to make a global mask for

[hot magnet]

you can bake the atlas down to all the same texture, that's fine

[night ember]

Just use separate materials for transparent and opaque

[hot magnet]

ye

[frail temple]

Alright sick, quick question i needed to make two atlas textures, one for the body and one for the face so i can apply different shader settings, i made the body 2k, should i also make the face 2k in height and width

[hot magnet]

they don't need to relate to eachother at all

do what looks good and leaves room in your performance budget

[frail temple]

my avatar has 700 verts / 1000 triangles, i'll just do both 2k

or 1k for the face, something like that

[hot magnet]

you're nowhere near any kind of perf concern lol

use 2k, treat yourself

that's the part people are going to be looking at the most anyway

[night ember]

1k tris is amazing

Significantly less than what I usually see in an avatar

[desert elk]

yeah!

its very impressive

[night ember]

While my model sits at 25k since I wanted to try and make a fully modeled face

[daring gust]

someone know why this happens?, i remember that the last time this happened to me i just downgraded the sdk and the vrcfury version, I tried that again but still saying that (as I noticed only happens when sps stuff is attached to the avatar)

[night ember]

Do you need sps?

[daring gust]

yep

[frail temple]

I baked and atlas'd the textures, but for some reason, when i remove compression and put it on No point filter, i no longer get the pixelated look i had before i baked the textures into one mat

Is it because i made the textures 2k?

[ornate stump]

Did the texture got scaled up when you baked?

[frail temple]

I think so, most of the textures at 16x32, 64x64 or 8x32

How do i preserve the pixelated look when baking?

[ornate stump]

Then the problem came when the texture in the atlas isn't at its original size.

[ornate stump]

I have no idea when using the bake tool.

[frail temple]

Do i just measure the texture's total length and width then base the texture atlas size on that? (for example 4 textures with 16x16 will get a atlas size of 64x64

[ornate stump]

Totally no. You have to do it anyway to keep texture width length in the atlas the same width length of its original.

[night ember]

Atlas of 32x32 actually

1 32x is 4 16x

[frail temple]

I don't follow, so what do i do ?

[ornate stump]

As I mentioned: I have no idea when using the bake tool.

[frail temple]

So what's the formula?

Do I just add up all the texture and divide by 2?

[night ember]

Well no

A texture is both horizontal and vertical

16x2 is 32

Which only accounts for 1 axis

Which a 32x32 is both axis

[frail temple]

Wouldn't 4 textures, each consisting of 16x16 still equal to 64x64?

[arctic ginkgo]

no, 16 is half the size of 32, but since they are squares, you are talking in terms of area, not length. 16*16 = 256, so 256 square pixels for 1 16x16 image. 4 images therefore would be 256*4 = 1024. so area of 1024 square pixels. 32x32 = 1024 as well, so the two have the same area

simple math:
16*16*4 =
16*16*(2*2) =
(2*16)(2*16) =
32*32

sorry for edits, i am fighting the formatting with the asterisks lol

so when combining volumes together, doubling each length gives you 2^d volumes within the new defined volume, with d being the dimensions

1D (length) = 2
2D (area) = 4
3D (volume) = 8

and this extends beyond 3 dimensions afaik but you likely won't be working beyond 3 dimensions lol

[glass geyser]

so, I have a problem here. I recently edited my novabeast fbx model to have expression symbols and recorded it to existing keyframes for expressions already on it. I combined materials of all the added meshes. now as you can see here, they're there and I'm assuming "default" in the materials is for that mesh, except it won't allow me to put the texture on it even though I imported it there. it's not letting me do anything with it.

how can I fix this? it was just fine in blender.

[somber sequoia]

those are the materials embedded in the fbx file, you can't edit them. you must extract them or just make new materials

[glass geyser]

So the problem here is how do i extract it to like put the atlas texture on it or somehow assign the new material to that mesh? I tried that already but dont know how to assign it on the untextured mesh there

[gray crane]

in blender this model has shapekeys but it uses the shapekey selector but to export it it doesnt have any and only operates with the shapekey selector how do i get the shapekeys or how to i transfere them need help pleaseee

[glass geyser]

Nvm i figured it out

[pallid mirage]

Hey hey. Does anyone know why my elbow twists like that when i face my palm up? I'm assuming it's because i have these twist bones and maybe they're not rotating properly. I tried to merge the twist bone to the elbow bone but it didn't seem to help, but maybe i did it wrong or something.

[timber otter]

Does anybody know why unity is giving this error? I’m selling an avi and out of the 30 who bought it about 3 of them get this error and I cannot get it, but my boyfriend can. Any tips?

[timber otter]

Looks like weight paint issues with the hoses

[quaint hound]

i have like. actually no exact clue, it might be weight paint like marina mentioned but it could also be uhhh

whats it called

it could also be avatar muscle settings

i heart that i think upper and lower arm twist settings in these can cause but also fix "candy-wrapping"

[pallid mirage]

Well, that's a menu i've never seen before

[timber otter]

When you set it up as a humanoid it’s on the right side you’ll see muscles above all the bones

[quaint hound]

but i think its mostly weight paints

[timber otter]

Get silenced lol

[quaint hound]

wow...

[timber otter]

Either weight paint or wrong bones

[quaint hound]

^

anyways

im here to ask for Help

Unity work pla

[timber otter]

Anyways can someone tag me if they have any solution for my problem 🙏

[quaint hound]

pleaaa

[timber otter]

That’s just the sdk not unity

[quaint hound]

ive had

ive had this happen

[timber otter]

You do? How’d you fix?

[quaint hound]

when uploading a jpg image thumbnail that was converted to png

it might be the thumbnail

try asking them to upload without thumbnail

that fixed it for me

it might not be the exact error

[timber otter]

Im having bf check en

Rn

The thumbnail picture is on a cube so I’m having him delete both the picture from unity and the cube

[quaint hound]

try uploading the avatar without a thumbnail at all

i doubt its the actual texture file or sometihng

[timber otter]

Can you do that?

I thought you have

You gotta capture an image no?

[quaint hound]

im pretty sure you can just upload without one?

well

whatever

[timber otter]

Nah I think you need one

[quaint hound]

looking at the error rn i can

[quaint hound]

i might have an idea why

[timber otter]

Originally my bf though it was bc they have no storage bc he said normally that’s what that error means but he has storage. And only small amounts of people are getting it

I will be in ur debt

If u know how to fix

[quaint hound]

looking at the error it has some problem with some filename (i think)

whats the location of the thumbnail picture on the drive? i assume it gets stored in the unity project folder while uploading

it might have a problem with the file path

i fixed it by importing the file i wanted to actually upload into unity and capturing it in scene lol

[timber otter]

I put the image into the unity project itself not through my pc

[quaint hound]

ah

thats

[timber otter]

Omg it worked

[quaint hound]

weird

[timber otter]

Deleting the image

[quaint hound]

oh my god i msor good

[timber otter]

Robin

[quaint hound]

im so good

[timber otter]

Im in your debt

Whatever u need

I got you

[quaint hound]

idk pay me 70 bucks thanks

[severe crown]

how do i delete parameters where do i delete it?

[quaint hound]

No im joking

💔

[timber otter]

Uhm

[quaint hound]

go into ur avatars main prefab

under vrc avatar description

*descriptor

[timber otter]

Robin you are amazing thank you

[quaint hound]

here r the parameters

if u click that

double click

itll open

[severe crown]

okay im here ^^

[quaint hound]

and here u have like

list of parameters

i dont know which ones you can safely delete and which yiu cant

[severe crown]

this is all i have not sure why its telling me that i have a lot or im over

[quaint hound]

u have space left lmfa

r u using vrcfury?

[severe crown]

yeah

[quaint hound]

oh

yeah the way vrcfury works is that

[severe crown]

it tells me this lol

[quaint hound]

it combines the asset's parameters with ur avatar ONLY when u upload it

that means u have too many assets adding their stuff

[severe crown]

so delete some assets?

[quaint hound]

wouldnt delete them from the project but you can remove them from the avatar

yes

[severe crown]

got it

gonna do that rn

[quaint hound]

you could make a 2nd avatar with those things you removed so you dont have any missing stuff

i asume you paid for like most of those things so

💔

@severe crownthis part is actually really important

you should be able to go thru files of ur assets and see which has the most parameters

and maybe ask the creator if there are any that are not important

[severe crown]

yep yep ^^

its just i got it from booth idk how to contact the creator

[quaint hound]

ohhhh

thats why i dislike booth

[severe crown]

ill remove some assets then ^^

[quaint hound]

yes

[severe crown]

its a rave avi ill remove some unncessary stuff then

[quaint hound]

start with those with the most customizable things

[severe crown]

thank you robin!

[quaint hound]

those usually have a bunch of parameters to save colors, size, options, etc

[quaint hound]

no problem

i came here for help and i end up helping like 5 people in total

YAY!

[fierce thunder]

Modular avatar bone proxy makes my gameobject fly above the head after upload / play mode

how do i make it merge with the head

i wanna avoid using MA merge armature because i want it to be a prefab that you can just put on your avatar

[quaint hound]

@fierce thunder

have you checked under the advanced tab

not super familiar with MA but id assume it have custom offsets in here

[fierce thunder]

nothing relevant in here

[quaint hound]

huh, weird on ma's part then lol

but yeah i have no clue about ma either

[hot magnet]

if you want the pixellated look just don't atlas your textures

there's no reason to

with textures as small as what you're working with

[frail temple]

Yeah I just tried everything in my power but literally nothing works

[frail temple]

I have 42 material slots, I am forced to

[hot magnet]

oh damn, yeah that's a reason

what are you using to atlas

[frail temple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS4rqkqmg7Y

[hot magnet]

it's probably doing scaling/filtering when generating the atlas

[frail temple]

i tried going with 128x128, same stuff

it just gets deformed

[hot magnet]

I'm not sure whether blender resamples when atlasing, you might just have to use a different method

[frail temple]

I think it does, you got any other methods for me to try out?

[hot magnet]

I don't, sorry

I think https://github.com/d4rkc0d3r/d4rkAvatarOptimizer might be able to do something for you? I haven't used it specifically for this before though

[frail temple]

Nah, my only problem is the material slots, otherwise this avatar has 1000 triangles, no way to optimize it further

I think i'll have to only bake certain materials, how many slots should i use for PC port and for Quest?

[cyan torrent]

I wanna get several dance/flip/etc animation that I can add to avatar emote, is there a website for that?

[hot magnet]

d4o can combine textures

[lament lantern]

i accidently put an skin on :/ how do i become the default error robot again?

[hot magnet]

...and is just generally great for getting rid of material slots

[desert elk]

you can change into it on the website
https://vrchat.com/home/avatar/avtr_c38a1615-5bf5-42b4-84eb-a8b6c37cbd11

[lament lantern]

thx!

[frail temple]

can i get the full name? everytime i google d4o i get a bunch of stuff unrelated

[hot magnet]

i literally gave you a link to the github

oh

it's d4rk's optimizer

[frail temple]

that's darkavatar optimizer

[quaint hound]

how do you edit the rest hand pose ?

trying to make the fingers closer to eachother so it feels nicer

[desert elk]

you can modify one of the default animations

if i manage to find the tutorial i saw before i'll link it

but basically you can take of of the default animations, go to the animation tab and start recording

and position the fingers how you want them to be

with the numbers

[safe mesa]

I need some help with bypassing the blendshape weight clamp. It's mainly for a specific blink animation I'm looking for.

One that's a bit exaggerated in a way, but not overly so.

nvm I got it

[ornate stump]

You can't bypass weight clamp. Even if you somehow did in unity, the weight still got clamped when in game.

[safe mesa]

bruh

[errant comet]

You can do it in blender

[buoyant sundial]

#1350292599084154940 message

[crimson pilot]

Hi, I'm having trouble using an animation controller that swaps between 2 states by going from "Finger point" to "Finger gun", because of the "Idle index" state that happens for a few frames in-between. Is there an easy solution for this?

[proper turret]

Hi! Sorry for newbie question. Are there any requisites for uploading my avatar in vrchat?

[ornate stump]

https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495

[safe mesa]

So all I did was add eye tracking to my avatar, and all of a sudden the hands just randomly got fucking mangled

Left is Blender, Right is Unity.

[somber sequoia]

can you show the blender view with the bones?

but if you did nothing else maybe your export settings were different than the last time?

[safe mesa]

Side view

[somber sequoia]

that looks fine

[balmy plover]

trying to upload for Android, Unity says sucessfully uploaded, but when i view it on the website it says security check failed, and it says pc only in game. any idea what that means? ive never seen "security check failed" before

[somber sequoia]

at a guess, probably it's very, very poor

[desert elk]

could be too high file size

you can view it with this tool for example

https://github.com/Thryrallo/VRC-Avatar-Performance-Tools

or if you show the stats in the sdk we could probably tell you if they're too high

[balmy plover]

i genuienly dont understand anymore. i went back into blender, changed only the bone names (i was having the tracking at the wrists error yesterday) and made a brand new unity file to re-do it. ive added no physbones, no toggles, no nothing. just a descriptor and view look. how is it to high in file size its smaller than the sucessfully uploaded but bad tracking one

[somber sequoia]

oh if you changed bone names, go and redo the rigging setup

[balmy plover]

i remember why i quit avi making now

[somber sequoia]

oh wait, I'm confusing two people

[balmy plover]

did that 👍

oh

[somber sequoia]

k, good 🙂

[balmy plover]

i did do that tho lmao

[desert elk]

any errors on upload?

[balmy plover]

only one yellow warning saying im using more than 1 pixel light

(i dont even know what a pixel light is)

[full furnace]

Hi, I am sorry if it's a wrong channel but I am looking for an *avatar editing * tutorial. I cannot seem to find one. I have purchased an avatar and I don't want to add new features etc. I would like to for example remap gestures, turn off some gestures, turn off physics for certain bones etc. Just customise it a bit with what it comes with out of the box

[desert elk]

you need to search for specific things

there isn't one big tutorial

[quaint hound]

alr thank you

(did u manage to find it...

[desert elk]

no, sorry

[quaint hound]

i am sobbing

[desert elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOGc8CetyXs&pp=ygUYdnJjIGhhbmQgZ2VzdHVyZXMgY3VzdG9t

[full furnace]

I see. I figured out some things myself but some seem to be beyond me. Will change my googling approach then o7

[balmy plover]

tutorials that teach you how to make avi's will teach you the basics of this ironically

[desert elk]

there's only this that i found
the process should be the same excpt you can edit the premade hand gestures

[full furnace]

Surely, but I would also have to ingest a lot of information I don't need. But I might go that way if I need to

[balmy plover]

never hurts to learn imo

[safe mesa]

I think I'm on the right track to fixing Shawn's hands.
(FYI: My avatar's name is Shawn Cobalt. Only saying this to clear up confusion)

[quaint hound]

whats ur current unity knowledge

[full furnace]

I just installed it an hour ago xd

[quaint hound]

its over 💔

[balmy plover]

if you really cant find any tutorials id be happy to hop in a call and try and help you out

[desert elk]

you can generally check out the channel that uploaded the video i linked. They have a lot of beginner friendly tutorials

[quaint hound]

watch a few videos abt avatar creation
most importantly toggles and stuff you do once you have an avatar already done

[desert elk]

yeah

[quaint hound]

you dont need to know all about idk FBX import and unity avatar etc

[full furnace]

Wow, thank you very much ❤️ I will watch some vids first though, and only then if I still can't do what I want I might decide to take up on your offer.

[quaint hound]

i can also help you in a call

i have nothing else to do rn

[desert elk]

just don't unpack your avatar, that's basically the only thing you need to remember

[quaint hound]

eh

[desert elk]

eh?

[quaint hound]

u shouldnt

[desert elk]

yeah

[quaint hound]

but its not fully the end

its only a little the end 💔

[full furnace]

xD

[quaint hound]

why is it even that bad

[desert elk]

it makes stuff very complicated if you wanna make futher edits in blender

[quaint hound]

oh

oh yeah it does

[desert elk]

or any errors arise that you need to fix in blender

[quaint hound]

yeah

i just assume i dont need to do anything in blender

because if i do i just give up 💔

[desert elk]

blender isn't that bad tbh

i stayed away from it at first, but it's very cool now

[quaint hound]

ive ALWAYS had issues with reimporting

[desert elk]

like overriding the fbx?

[quaint hound]

ya

but tbf

i never really learned how to properly do anything

[desert elk]

ensure you're using the same export settings as you originally used in blender and it should be good

well, unless you didn't export the fbx from blender yourself

[somber sequoia]

and do not unpack your avatar prefab

[quaint hound]

what if im editing an FBX 💔

[desert elk]

then you do it till you get it XD

[quaint hound]

lmao

[somber sequoia]

works fine

[desert elk]

yeah, i said that already XD

[quaint hound]

i still dont see why its that bad 💔

[somber sequoia]

it should be said repeatedly 🙂

[quaint hound]

like its bad cuz of the reimport but like

what exactly does it break or make harder

[somber sequoia]

because it breaks the link between what's in the scene and the .fbx file so you can't simply overwrite to update.

[desert elk]

make your avi invisible

:)

i had that happen before cause i unpacked it

[quaint hound]

cant i just. Re link it

[somber sequoia]

no

[desert elk]

nope

[quaint hound]

So id have to

resetup the avatar from scratch then?

[desert elk]

yes

[quaint hound]

oh

[somber sequoia]

you drag a new avatar into the scene and then re-setup, you could use pumkin's tools to copy stuff though

[quaint hound]

i heart pumkin

[somber sequoia]

but if you just don't unpack, this isn't an issue

[desert elk]

no need for external stuff :

[quaint hound]

so thats probably what happened with me LMFAO

[winter edge]

does anyone know how to target all physbone scripts in a specific prefab? in the hierarchy just trying to disable grabs for everything all at once

[full furnace]

I will leave learning how to edit gestures, facial expressions etc for later, but for now I just have one more question. It appears that my humanoid rig avatar does have running animation, but only when I am half body (rather than full body). Other avatars do not seem to have this issue. Does it mean it's the way avatar is set up that's affecting it?

The avatar is Runa

When I switch to full body it starts gliding when I move

[quaint hound]

wdym?

[balmy barn]

fbt have this toggle

[somber sequoia]

there's an in-game toggle for this

[quaint hound]

this confused because i thought thats preferred lmao

make sure

[full furnace]

I do not recall fiddling with such thing with other avatars though. Will try though.

[quaint hound]

in the editor under your avatar prefab

that force loc animation for 6 point tracking is OFF

idk why its on here i gotta disable it

[quaint hound]

it was probably because every other avatar had this toggle turned off

in the editor

how do i set an avatar as my fallback 💔

[full furnace]

so if I want running animation I need to turn those off, yes?

[quaint hound]

yes

no no

[desert elk]

it needs to be uploaded to every platform with a rating good or excelent

[quaint hound]

wait

just the for 6 point tracking

[quaint hound]

uhuh...

got that

[desert elk]

after uploading the quest version there should be a button for "set as fallback" in the sdk

on the quest version

I don't know where cause I haven't uploaded fallbacks on the newer sdk

[quaint hound]

well

[desert elk]

open the quest unity project

open the sdk window

and look there

should be a button somewhere

[quaint hound]

i didnt see anything

so

im gonna upload ios 💔

[desert elk]

I'm not sure if iOS is required

maybe they updated it

idk

[trail burrow]

maybe posted in the wrong area, but any help would be nice. https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1350515266270003332

[quaint hound]

does anyone have a clue on how to preview/edit animations of an avatar

im trny change the idle hand pose which is controlled (i think) by the idle anim of the avatar

[full furnace]

I can't seem to find this :/

[quaint hound]

its in the avatar descriptor

under ur avatars uhhh

prefab

[warm fable]

hey guys im currenly working on the eyes for the revel wolf clothing compatible version and when I change the main eye color it changes it to a weird gold/green mix, am I doing something wrong?

[quaint hound]

whats the uhh

shader for the eyes

i assume poi?

[warm fable]

Mochie

[quaint hound]

ohh

no clue abt mochie

never used it

[full furnace]

Oh, got it. It is already unticked though

[quaint hound]

oh

hm

i sadly dont know then 😭

[full furnace]

I'll tick it and see what happens

[warm fable]

Its what was recommended for me to use with that base

[quaint hound]

have you tried the ingame toggle?

[somber sequoia]

that ought to be in the gesture layer

[quaint hound]

i see

[full furnace]

yeah, didnt help.

[stray trench]

hey guys, quest users can't see my eyes looking around on my face tracking, but can see the shapes of my eyes move

[somber sequoia]

regardless of shader you'd have to look at the settings, there's not really anything we can tell you without further info

[stray trench]

i was able to confirm its only with my avatar that I added FT to

[quaint hound]

lmao sorry but what now?
i have never done anything animation wise except for basic toggles

and evne then the animation thingy is so uhg

[warm fable]

Well Im not sure where to look, is there any other color options that would cause this?

All I did was go to eyes (material) and changed the textures

The default color is green

Oh

I see

Hdr color is set to green

[somber sequoia]

shader settings 🙂

[quaint hound]

kazin, sorry to bump butlike

😭

[warm fable]

There its fixed

Lol

[quaint hound]

i got the animation but like

how do i preview it on my avatar

💔

[desert elk]

maybe the preview button?

next to the red dot

[quaint hound]

its

greyed out

[desert elk]

click on your avatar in the hierarchy

is it still gray?

[somber sequoia]

I haven't been following along, I was just answering the one question

[quaint hound]

yes... but it also gets rid (deselects) the animation in the animation window

[somber sequoia]

but it looks like you found one

[somber sequoia]

if you want to work on an animation, that animation must be in the animation controller in the Animator component on your avatar.

[quaint hound]

so

i drag the gestures controller

into my avatars uhh

animator?

yrsd

yea

[somber sequoia]

Yes. Not the one on the Avatar Descriptor

[quaint hound]

oh my god

ur my saviour

[somber sequoia]

no, just a jerk who tries to politely remind people of things they probably saw in a tutorial video but didn't realize was important at the time 🙂

[quaint hound]

i

actually never saw this in any video lmfa

i assume there isnt a way to mirror these right

[somber sequoia]

it's in every video about animating avatars

[desert elk]

yeah

also in the one I linked 👍

(if I remember correctly)

but generally I see it in most tutorials

[somber sequoia]

it's also very easy to miss how relevant stuff like this is the first time

[desert elk]

yeah

I missed that too at first xd

[somber sequoia]

same, and got my avatar stuck in bike pose more than once

[quaint hound]

is there a way to uhhh

mirror animations

[somber sequoia]

I don't think you can in Unity

[quaint hound]

i hate unity

[full furnace]

Actually having this setting u told me about ticked fixed it 😄

[quaint hound]

oh

lmfaoo

no more glide

i dont wanna call whoever made the floofkitty bad... but

one of these hands/hand poses is

better than the other

[full furnace]

yes :3

[quaint hound]

it cannot be this hard to do right

like

[somber sequoia]

it's probably more that most people just let VRChat use the default animations here

[quaint hound]

true actually

for some reason the one hand is bigger than the other

is it over?

[timid terrace]

You mean this ?

[quaint hound]

does this actually mirror the uhh

editting

like if i edit the left hand does the right hand get edited aswell?

[timid terrace]

It mirrors the whole thing

[somber sequoia]

yeah, that plays it forward then back

[stray trench]

anyone know?

[quaint hound]

no i mean

mirror the editing

not like literally the animation

[somber sequoia]

yeah, I know what you're asking for, but haven't seen a thing to do it

[somber sequoia]

make sure the parameters are synced, and your parameters list is the same (including order) for both avatars

[stray trench]

how do I check they're synced?