avatar-help

[bright silo]

Unfortunately no. Look at the picture in the message I replied to; the hierarchy

[fiery crow]

oh frick

[main copper]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[desert elk]

nope

you can have multiple shaders installed

no problem

[main copper]

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[fiery crow]

btw poiyomi also has a translation tool that converts liltoon to poiyomi mats (if u arent needing those liltoon mats for anims or something)

just an fyi incase u werent aware

super useful for booth models, if youre more familair with poi mats than liltoon

[glass geyser]

So, heres what i wanna do. I took a novabeast from pc since the fbx i can modify with blender has all the physbones removed and noting animates except the base skeleton. So im trying to optimize the pc one just enough to a poor rating so people dont have to show my avatar which i have to do all in unity.

Ive got a drcimater to reduce polygon count to 20k but it wont let me combine or delete materials in unity

[desert elk]

you do that in blender

there's an add on for it

[glass geyser]

God damnit

[desert elk]

https://github.com/Grim-es/material-combiner-addon?tab=readme-ov-file

[glass geyser]

Wait for blender or unity? I already have an optomized fbx but just tired of it being so basic and no interactioms

[desert elk]

blender

also i'd recomended baking your avatar with the tuxedo plug in blender instead of decimating, it makes it look better most of the times

https://github.com/feilen/tuxedo-blender-plugin?tab=readme-ov-file

[fiery crow]

should aim a bit lower, lots of people block poor avis too

green/medium would be better to aim for

[desert elk]

yeah, making pc avis medium isn't that hard (quest is a different story)

and if you're just aiming for poor, there's no need for 20k polygons, just do 70k

[glass geyser]

Ok. Well ill consider that for reducing tri count from here forward but guess ill determime whether to keep it very poor or use my fbx since android phones can show very poor ratings now

[desert elk]

20k is a quest thing

or i'm misunderstanding and you want to optimize it for quest

if that's the case, it's a different story

[fiery crow]

the novabeast server has already premade green opti packages

and quest premades too, just have to verify in the nova server to gain access to it

just btw ofc

[desert elk]

oh that's handy

[fiery crow]

yeah its v neat

[glass geyser]

it's for quest and yeah I know except they most likely have it locked behind something, I'm not gonna go there after how toxic they've been to me. most likely that's gonna have everything stripped from it too, I don't want it as a fallback, I have my main sona for that. basically what this came down to is I'm tired of it having no animated tail or interactions on it and no longer blinks or has a moving mouth cause I had to remove shape keys to decimate it.

in that case I'll just stick with the poor one I created if I can't optimize this one further, I doubt people on quest are gonna go that low, the performance doesn't even affect it that much. don't wanna go literal wii quality on my models just to make it medium or good

[desert elk]

baking doesn't remove shapekeys

just more reasons to use the plug in

[glass geyser]

alright well if I can keep vietmieses to have it blink and move it's mouth when talking, it won't be that bad. thank I'll try it out tommorow, it's really late for me currently.

[desert elk]

yeah, i use it for my avis

it doesn't always look the best if your avi has a lot of polygons to begin with, but it's better than decimating

[fiery crow]

high to low normal baking saves my lowpolys

[frail temple]

what does that mean? also huge thanks!

Oh iam stupid, you mean like a way to change the value ingame

[fiery crow]

ye

or u can ofc just set it to whatever u want without animating

just throwing it out there

[frail temple]

Should i adjust for add pass too?

[fiery crow]

i personally do both greyscales

[frail temple]

Alright, i'll try 0.25

I think i'll stick with 1, doesn't look out of place compared to the other 2 models in the example pic, what do you think?

[sharp imp]

Hello everyone, maybe someone know how to save T pose ? When I try to save it and click Apply then Done, nothing change.

[frail temple]

from what i know you can just do it in blender

[sharp imp]

well yes, I can change hands, but problem in fingers

[desert elk]

what do you mean?

[sharp imp]

Well, they need to be on correct angel, so I need fix in blender, then re-upload file in Unity to check

[frail temple]

I don't think you can actually change the skeleton in unity

[sharp imp]

sad

[inland pumice]

is it possible to do a alpha map to cutout some parts from a texture on a quest compatible material? for example hair

alpha cutoff

[desert elk]

i don't think so

[inland pumice]

for example this but quest compatible

[desert elk]

quest doesn't have transparency

[inland pumice]

oh okay

[desert elk]

you need to go to blender and cut out the mesh to fit the texture

[frail temple]

There's a special version of gogoloco i've seen that only has poses and has no taunts so you can add Coffeetauntsv2 or prismotes without it breaking, anyone have it / know it's name?

Or is it just an earlier version of Gogo loco?

Example:

[desert elk]

it's just an easier version i think

i recognise the icons from the earlier version

[frail temple]

Oh, so can i immediately put Coffeetauntsv2 with the current gen gogoloco or do i have to use this version?

are the animation clips for both gonna overlap? i don't wanna manually put the taunts in gogo loco

[desert elk]

i don't know what taunts are, so i can't answer that question

[frail temple]

they're the dances that desktop users use the most

[desert elk]

ah i don't do dances so idk

[frail temple]

Coffeetauntsv2 is just a bunch of those, and every avatar that has those dances either integrates it into gogo loco manually or has an older version of gogo loco

I guess i'll fuck around and find out, one last thing, i want to add Visemes to this avatar, how did they manage to do it like this?

[desert elk]

i'm gonna be honest with you i don't see any mouth movement on that video

visemes are blendshapes that you make in blender and assign them in unity in the avatar descriptor

[frail temple]

No i meant how does he make the head bob based on movement? it's intentional

[desert elk]

blendshapes

[frail temple]

Oh okay, got it

[desert elk]

instead of making blendshapes for the mouth, they made blendshapes fo the whole head

[hoary ember]

I have a quick question to ask, does anyone know what could cause an item to not toggle in game. The avatar is pre-made, and all of the toggles work except one. I edited the avatar in blender (I did not touch any bones, or armatures I just flattened the chest and clothing to match) I also exported the FBX with custom scale and no leaf bones and no bake animations because that’s the only way the avatar would work (I fixed another issue I previously asked about) . I’ve tried a animation repathing tool but the tool says there’s nothing wrong with the animation paths, the item itself works fine in Unity. Just won’t show up in play mode/AV3 Manager/gesture manager or in game

[desert elk]

is the item in the assets?

is the prefab missing?

you could also check the layer, menu and parameters to check if everything is set up there

[hoary ember]

Item is in assets yes, and yeah the prefab is there!

I haven’t touched the layer stuff, because I struggle there and it’s set up with AV3 so I’m way to scared to mess with that because I’d have no idea how to do so 😅

[desert elk]

you mean avatars 3.0 manager?

and does the toggle work without editing the fbx

?

[hoary ember]

Yea

Yeah the toggle works just fine on the original version

[desert elk]

did you override the fbx with the edit? or did you move the layers to the new avatar

if you moved them to a new avatar it could be misaligned names or something like that

[hoary ember]

No I copied settings over with Pumkins avatar tools, because replacing the FBX with my version with this particular avatar doesn’t seem to work

(Legit causes it to completely turn invisible)

[desert elk]

is the item it's own mesh?

did you copy that as well?

[hoary ember]

The item is a set with arm garters, leg garters, arm warmers and leg warmers. So it technically has multiple meshes

I copied everything over

[left gull]

check the animations themselves and see if the meshes are listed as missing (they'll be yellow) if not check that the parameter names for each toggle are consisent across your param list,fx layer and expression menu

[stone coral]

does anyone know that base model for this avatar?

[desert elk]

#1138520828556890214

[stone coral]

mb

[alpine zodiac]

i keep getting an error that says “trying to load data for an avatar we do not own, clearing blueprint ID” how do i fix it?

[left gull]

generally thats not the actual error preventing upload, can you send a screenshot of your topmost console errors and SDK upload panel?

[alpine zodiac]

uh yes, just give me one second

this is at the top of the console but im confused which part of the upload panel did you want to see?

the one about the missing prefab assest is the error i got before i got the blueprint ID one

[somber sequoia]

looks like you didn't install the face tracking package

[alpine zodiac]

where do i get that?

[somber sequoia]

vrcft.io I think?

the other one is about Gesture manager - you probably have the prefab in the scene but haven't installed that package either. It's only used for testing, so up to you if you install that or delete the prefab

[alpine zodiac]

so i don't need gesture manager? do you recommend i have it though?

[mental estuary]

It'll more likely be VRCFury and Jerry's Templates

[somber sequoia]

I'm new to FT, so yeah, maybe that 🙂

[alpine zodiac]

yeah i was confused on that because it said vrcfury face tracking

[somber sequoia]

I use AV3 Emulator more, but Gesture Manager works well. Really personal preference here.

[alpine zodiac]

oh i don't know what AV3 Emulator is so i won't risk it

[mental estuary]

I don't like AV3 since it seems to have more bugs, and it uses Gesture Manager anyway

May as well just use Gesture Manager

[alpine zodiac]

uh wait where do i get the vrcfury thing though?

[somber sequoia]

like gesture manager, it's a tool for making testing easier. there's no risk here

[mental estuary]

vrcfury.com

[somber sequoia]

it's the first hit on google

[alpine zodiac]

oh no by risk it i meant like mess stuff up

[somber sequoia]

it won't, but sure, up to you.

[alpine zodiac]

sorry i shouldve worded that better, i have vrcfury but where do i get the 2nd one, the one for face tracking or is it the website you said earlier

or vrcfury face tracking

[mental estuary]

Jerry's Templates on Google

[alpine zodiac]

alright i'll check it out, thank you

[rancid prairie]

having an issue where for some reason my normals are getting inverted even though they're perfectly fine in blender and another where when i apply a blendshape it removes the shade smoothing from the model

[alpine zodiac]

sorry is it this link or the gumroad link?

[mental estuary]

The templates are on GitHub, yes

You add it to the VCC then install that package into your project

[alpine zodiac]

ok, thank you

[alpine zodiac]

now it says its conflicting with stuff

[quasi trail]

I need some advice, I have an animation on my avatar, and I've set it up so that when you hit a toggle, it turns the object on, animates it, and then toggles itself off at the end, but when I upload it to VRC, the toggle turns the object on, but it doesn't move, and for the record, it isn't set to static.

[somber sequoia]

set to static?

[alpine zodiac]

if someone knows how to fix this or wants to help just ping me

[quasi trail]

Literally said right at the end that it isn't.

Here, I looked at the animator in unity and the animation gets stuck right at the beginning.

[mental estuary]

You probably have the templates imported in your assets folder as well as now your packages. If they're in assets delete them and only use the one that's installed into packages via the VCC

[somber sequoia]

sorry, that wasn't clear - this is an avatar project, right? I'm curious what would you set to static?

[alpine zodiac]

deleted the one in assets tried to upload and got this

[mental estuary]

That asset shouldn't contain any templates either. I'd suggest just reimporting things

[alpine zodiac]

like delete it then readd it?

[mental estuary]

If this is a particularly old avatar that wants the assets templates, you'll need to upgrade it

[alpine zodiac]

no this is a new avatar that the creator posted recently

[somber sequoia]

seems like one of those cases where someone packed up a whole avatar with everything included, which they shouldn't have done

[mental estuary]

Then it should work fine with the VCC version of the templates

That too

[alpine zodiac]

should i just start a new project completely?

also they had seperate downloads for pc and quest so idk if thats what you mean

[somber sequoia]

but yeah, reinstalling that stuff via VCC should replace what's incorrectly included

[mental estuary]

Just delete the templates folder inside Wooferine, and replace what it's moaning about with the equivalent files from the templates in the packages folder

[alpine zodiac]

i dont see a template folder

this is all i see

[quasi trail]

Nevermind, I figured it out, thanks though.

[mental estuary]

That doesn't look like the packages folder

You have Assets, then you have Packages

[somber sequoia]

alright, cool 🙂

[alpine zodiac]

i thought you said inside wooferine?

[mental estuary]

I said delete the template folder from inside Wooferine. If it's not there then that's fine already

[alpine zodiac]

oh ok

from the jerry's templates right?

[mental estuary]

Yeah the path will be the same. Jerry's Templates, animators, eye rotation

The files it wants will be in there

[alpine zodiac]

ok so once i find the files do i drag it into wooferine or something else?

[mental estuary]

You'd drag it into the full controller that wants those files

I don't know where that would be on your avatar. Probably labelled face tracking

[alpine zodiac]

would that be in assets, the picture in the screenshot or would i have to find it in the inspector?

[somber sequoia]

open the blue one

[mental estuary]

Seems like gesture manager also needs to be readded to the scene

[alpine zodiac]

i found these

[alpine zodiac]

someone told me it was just for testing

[somber sequoia]

expand that so we can read the whole text

[alpine zodiac]

the red one or both?

[somber sequoia]

me, and it is, but definitely recommended.

[somber sequoia]

I meant the window, sideways.

[alpine zodiac]

ok i'll do that after then

oh

[mental estuary]

It is but the prefab is broken, that's why it's red xP

[alpine zodiac]

ooo

[somber sequoia]

cool, now you know what prefab's package you need to add.

[alpine zodiac]

do i add it there?

[mental estuary]

Delete the one that's red then readd the arkit VRCFury prefab from Jerry's Templates... That should fix it

It's probably just because of the inclusion of the templates by the avatar creator

[alpine zodiac]

alright, if i have any other issues should i ping you? just in case it doesn't work again

[opaque marlin]

Anyone else getting security check failed on Avis they made after uploading a quest version?

[mental estuary]

Just post another help request. People are always around

[alpine zodiac]

alright

[next yew]

how do i make acknowledgments be a string and who is null object
(how do i update my avatar through webpage)

[mental estuary]

This just seems like the avatar creator included part of the things that were needed, then you added the rest of the files using the VCC, and the legacy files got cleaned up and broke some references. As long as the face tracking has been added from Jerry's package you're all good

[alpine zodiac]

ok im sorry but i don't know how to readd it in

[gleaming steeple]

Thanks to all the people here sharing information to help people do what they want

[somber sequoia]

I just want people to make avatars that I can see without compromising my performance 🙂

[mental estuary]

Go into the prefabs folder of Jerry's templates and find the prefab with the same name. Drag it onto your avatar and delete the one that's red

[alpine zodiac]

do i drag it into the hierachy or like the actual picture of the avatar also i deleted the red one already

[mental estuary]

Onto your avatar's object so it becomes a child

[alpine zodiac]

im dragging it onto the avatar but it won't let me

[quasi trail]

Really quick though, I'd like to make it so that the animation automatically disables itself after it's done playing, rather than loop, does this animator look right?

[somber sequoia]

Sure, that looks ok, assuming the transition conditions are all reasonable

[balmy barn]

thats one way to do a toggle, but dont use any state

[quasi trail]

Right, well there in lays the issue, it still loops, so I assume the transition conditions are messed up, do you see an issue with these?

[somber sequoia]

yeah I don't see what the any state transition is for here

definitely not with "can transition to self" checked

[quasi trail]

Okay well I just turned off "can transition to self" and it still loops.

Btw loop time on the animation itself is turned off.

[timber wharf]

you dont have any condition for going to off

[bold marten]

Been having this issue with new avatars, It won't import the asset at all and noone has had an answer. I'm in the updated SDK and current vrc unity version but noone from the avatar servers knows what to do

I'm also at work at the moment just remoting to my home pc so please ping me for responses!

[arctic ginkgo]

Copy the transition parameters from "any state">"billy ride on", delete the transition. Make a new transition between "billy ride off">"billy ride on", paste both

also transitions without conditions sometimes will not transition and get "stuck", so i suggest adding a redudant condition to the transition

i usually have a float parameter set to 1 in my controller that I use for DBTs, so I also use that for my transitions that don't need conditions

also if you want to disable the parameter "billy oops" once the animation stops, add a parameter driver to your "billy ride off" state and have it set the value accordingly

[somber sequoia]

yeah it'll go there after the animation is done, that's not unreasonable

[arctic ginkgo]

ideally, but the behavior is bugged and sometimes doesn't transition. I always add conditions to my transitions after discovering this behavior

[somber sequoia]

hmm can't say I've ever seen that happen

I do a few things like this

[arctic ginkgo]

I had this issue with a blinking animation a few months ago. It was very simple and by all accounts should work, but each time it attempted to transition there was a chance that it wouldn't, and would get stuck forever. The only thing that fixed it was adding a condition, and I found a few people online saying they've had issues with this before as well

[somber sequoia]

huh that's weird

[mild light]

Hey yall. Wanted to ask if theres a way to bind a gameObject to the Players view instead of a bone like the head bone?

[arctic ginkgo]

the head bone follows the player's view, so just parent or constrain it to the head bone and center it on the view

[mild light]

That is not always true, especially when looking up/down and/or doing poses with for example GoGoLoco

I already have it attached to the headbone, but would like a way to attach it directly to the viewpoint instead

[arctic ginkgo]

oh then no, not really. If you're just going for a visual effect though it can be done through shaders and/or particles

[timber wharf]

and then it will go back to on via anystate, thus causing looping

[arctic ginkgo]

yeah but they don't need the anystate transition anyways, it looks like they just want to transition between the two animation states

[somber sequoia]

Right, I already disagree with using AnyState here

[timber wharf]

well, question was, why it loops, i said why🤷‍♂️

[jaunty gorge]

Hey, could someone help me, it's the first time im using VRC CC and im trying to export an VRoid avatar

[uncut lotus]

DUDE Im freaking out. I was trying to fix an issue with the jacket on my avitar, and I miss clicked something, and now the avitar is all fucked. What do I do!? https://youtu.be/-KWjUD-PJbA?si=fy5MdYrqGgx8bbX0

(the vid I was using)

[jaunty gorge]

[frail temple]

ctrl z

[junior void]

looks like you simply preview the wrong shaders

[alpine zodiac]

could i get help with this

[uncut lotus]

It didnt work

[frail temple]

ctrl u?

[uncut lotus]

....

I thought it wouldn't save if I closed it, and well....it did...and now I cant undo it

[frail temple]

like zero said, you probably clicked something related to the shaders

[uncut lotus]

Oh....I fixed it

I just deleted pipeline something....

[frail temple]

Just make a backup of your avatar projects

[uncut lotus]

God....I could feel my soul loosing a few years 😔

[uncut lotus]

Def gonna do that now

[frail temple]

goes for both unity and blender for a very good reason

[uncut lotus]

I just need to fix the pink on this stupid jacket

[uncut lotus]

I have like 4 backups on blender, so Ima do that in unity rq

[frail temple]

publish the avatar in offline mode just to make sure you actually fixed the problem

[uncut lotus]

Ight

I know the pink jacket thingy will still be there

any idea what it could be?

Even in this pic, you can kinda see how the pink acts almost like an overlay, and reveals some of the actual texture

[timber wharf]

are you on quest shader? so its vertex colors?

[uncut lotus]

Im on quest shaders, VRChat, Moblie, Toonlit

Its weird since the jacket shares a texture with the mask, and beanie, but the jackets the only thing affectde

[night ember]

vertex colors is a mesh specific thing

[young bear]

i know this isn't exactly an issue with an avatar itself, but does anyone know some good places to get free/cheap particle effects or textures for particle effects for avatars? I want to spruce up some of the features I have on my avatars but i'm not really a VFX artist so i don't know how to make the particle textures themselves

[uncut lotus]

Whats that?

[night ember]

blender thing

but quest tools does have a way to get rid of them

[uncut lotus]

So I gotta get that addon?

[night ember]

or fix it in blender

[uncut lotus]

Alright, Ima get the addon, first. Is it a simple right click and search for Vertex colors or something?

[acoustic blade]

Does anyone know these names or the creators who made these avaters

[junior void]

#1138520828556890214

[worldly whale]

is there a way to rotate cubemap? cause i want the sun in the front but its in the back

NVM

[supple needle]

First time trying to use CATS in blender. Every time I try to enable it, it gives me this warning and I’m unsure what the issue is

[compact dust]

hi spencer

[supple needle]

Hello (?)

[somber meadow]

The original cats repo on github is abandoned and only works on older versions of Blender (3.5 and lower), use the unofficial branch that is more maintained

https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

[solar tapir]

Does anyone know how to make a Blender model into a vrchat model? I have never ever used Blender before so I'm at a lost currently

[uncut lotus]

Do you have a model in Blender?

[compact dust]

tutorials on ze youtube

best way to learn basics

[solar tapir]

I've tried but still couldn't figure it out

[solar tapir]

I do I have the original .rar files of the Avatar that I wanted but unfortunately the model is a Blender model and not a single person that I know really knows on how to move it from Blender into Unity

[compact dust]

export as an fbx
if it has bones and weight painting that is

[solar tapir]

And... I'm not too sure if anything else needs to be done on it

[compact dust]

sooo

what did it come as in the .rar

and was it a pre-made ready to upload

or just the 3d model

[solar tapir]

I dunno... my uh pc is kinda shitting the bed at the current moment so I can't really check all I know is I got the original files from the model creator themselves

My pc has been acting up for awhile now and I dunno what's wrong with it

[supple needle]

So, after this link, select unoffical cats ?

[somber meadow]

select which one applies to your blender version

[supple needle]

My version is 4.3.2, I only see one for 4.2.2.5

Either that or 4.3.1.5

[somber meadow]

grab the latest version that it gives you

[compact dust]

then downgrade to that version if its that important to use ig

[split cairn]

Does anyone know any free particle system?

[somber meadow]

the versions your listing are the plugin versions, not the blender version

[supple needle]

Gives me this

[somber meadow]

that's weird, the error isn't about cats at all

did you remove the old cats

[supple needle]

Yes

[somber meadow]

just try closing blender and reopening it

show what file you're importing into it

[supple needle]

I am using the “CatsBlenderPlugin4.4Latest” ZIP

[somber meadow]

you're using blender 4.3

[supple needle]

So I should switch to that one I assume

[somber meadow]

yeah

[supple needle]

Gotcha

Looks like it worked, thanks a bunch !

[jovial sphinx]

i forgot how to upload the avatar

i done did what i wanted now im trying to figure out how to up load it

[left gull]

generally there'd be a tab at the top of the screen but you seem to be missing that

is the SDK even imported into your project?

[jovial sphinx]

i dont think so

[desert elk]

did you reopen blender?

you need to if you tried installing original first

oh it's fixed

okay

[left gull]

importing the SDK is meant to be your first step before even importing any required model scripts or the model itself

[jovial sphinx]

can i still import it?

as you can clearly see i bearly know what im doing

i only retextured her was all

[left gull]

is it possible? yes but it could break the model, you should open a new project along-side your current one and import the required scripts/add-ons then drag your current project's model folder into the new one

[jovial sphinx]

you're gonna have to run this step by step with me

im new to everything

only just finished buileding my first pc not even 2 weeks ago

and doing the avitar stuff for less then a week

[mystic grove]

what should I do when parts of the characters model is pink? body is pink, pants is pink in game, the material has the assigned texture it loads up with
but in game, the material is just pink
I tried changing material or texture, and all the same parts is still pink in game, I test the swap texture thing, and its still pink in game

[heavy zephyr]

Are you somehow uploading pc shaders on quest?

[mystic grove]

nope! its doing it for quest and PC

[heavy zephyr]

What kind of shader are you using?

[mystic grove]

vrchat/mobile/toonlit

it works for other models, since its a normal basic path

[heavy zephyr]

Maybe try creating a new material with this shader from the start and reasign the textures. Also make sure your SDK is up to date

[mystic grove]

okkkk!

[left gull]

i dont have the patience or time to walk someone through that, you could try looking over the info provided in here: https://discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1139228456090087495 or if you've got specific questions google them/ask in one of the channels here

[frail temple]

What's the best texturing program for a beginner? Ibis paint / Substance painter or Armor paint? price is irrelevant

[mystic grove]

doesn't seem to let me update the SDK, been having this error for a while, when i try to add a package or update it, it just does an error
on vrchat creator companion

[left gull]

probably Substance painter but its a bit overpriced and adobe are scumbags, theres a few built-in blender add-ons out there for painting if you just want something light for when your creating your model (and later using an external program to clean it up)

[uncut lotus]

RQ, is there a way to have a toggle that switches between shaders for quest?

I like 2, cant decide, and figured Id have them be a toggle if I can

[left gull]

set up the toggle as a material swap though thats a bit un-optimized

[heavy zephyr]

Yeah, possible but not recommended

[uncut lotus]

oof. Ight then. Thanks

[left gull]

you could make 2 variations of the model (with the two diff shader options) and upload them seperately

[uncut lotus]

Oooo. I think I will

[earnest jay]

hey so anyone have an idea on how i could make my avatars movement choppy? say like 12 - 24 fps or sm? i swear ive seen someone do it, but that mightve been some steam vr driver or something

[glass geyser]

is there a way to transfer physbones from an avatar to another? basically thing here is I'm making an optimized avatar for quest and while normally the model has physbones on it to like, animate certain parts, the fbx doesn't have any and the model kinda becomes static asside from the basic skeleton that's animating the model.

so like, the tail doesn't move nor any of the fur on the character.

[earnest jay]

is it like an alt version of an already existing avatar? like a quest edit?

[desert elk]

i believe pumpkin tools can transfer physbones, although i could be wrong

and you can also add physbones manually

which will allow you to have more control over where you place them

because quest can have max 8 physbone components

[earnest jay]

using UdonSharp;
using UnityEngine;
using VRC.SDKBase;
using VRC.Udon;

public class ChoppyMovement : UdonSharpBehaviour
{
    public Transform trackingSource; // assign your head or controller transform
    public Transform avatarRoot;     // the part you want to move choppily
    public float updateInterval = 0.2f; // in seconds (adjust to taste)

    private float lastUpdateTime;

    void Update()
    {
        // Only update every updateInterval seconds
        if (Time.time - lastUpdateTime >= updateInterval)
        {
            avatarRoot.position = trackingSource.position;
            avatarRoot.rotation = trackingSource.rotation;
            lastUpdateTime = Time.time;
        }
    }
}

would this work on an avatar?

im tyring to give it choppy movement

[desert elk]

i believe avatars don't allow for custom scripts

[light charm]

how do you fix "animation culling"?
like an avatar stops playing animations if its far away
as someone who makes animated avatars, this is very annoying

[earnest jay]

know any slternatives?

[desert elk]

custom animations i guess. I think you can create a custom walking animation

[earnest jay]

i meant more like the actual tracking lol but fom the looks of i it i might need a custom steam vr driver

[somber sequoia]

but why would I want my computer to play stuff I won't see 'cause it's too far away? I'm not sure there's an ideal situation here.

[desert elk]

yeah, that's what i think too

[somber sequoia]

I absolutely understand your point of view

[desert elk]

i understand wanting people to see your avatar, but at the end of the day if someone is far away enough not to see it than it doesn't really matter. They aren't talking to you if they're so far

[light charm]

because those avatars rely entirely on animations
the avatars "slide" because their animations aren't loading

[desert elk]

slide?

[somber sequoia]

still probably not something the viewer cares about if it's that far away

[desert elk]

yeah

true

[light charm]

the animation culling might work fine in an enclosed space but these maps im on are nature maps so you see people from afar

[timber wharf]

@earnest jay in theory you can constrain each and every bone to its copy. your tracking moves copies, while mesh weighted to og. then switch freeze on/off via animation.

[light charm]

yes, because the walking isn't showing because of the animation culling

again, animated avatars

aka generic

[timber wharf]

@light charm afaik only stuff like visemes/eyetracking is disabled automatically from far away. everything else is only because of distance hider.

ie blue gems

[desert elk]

i'm gonna be honest with you, if i'm not talking to someone, i don't look at them 🤷‍♂️ they're all just diamonds

[somber sequoia]

I rarely cull by distance/count, relying on tools like this animation disabler and the download limiter.

[timber wharf]

but you absolutely should now, when its finally disables animators

[somber sequoia]

but if you're far enough away, I'm not looking at the detail anyway

[light charm]

except that those avatars are pretty big xD like mammoths and stuff

[somber sequoia]

oh then I'll probably manually hide it and that's that

[light charm]

so its very noticable

[desert elk]

so it's hidden

[somber sequoia]

in the right situation, this is probably fine. maybe a client option to enable that stuff would be interesting, but I tend to think how it's currently setup is a decent compromise

[light charm]

it's going to cause alot of issues with the videos my friend are going to record though
we'll need to record from afar for some scenes

[somber sequoia]

ah, there's a special case that it'd be nice to be able to do, yep

[uncut lotus]

Random question, If I add an Idle animation, would it affect people on quest, or with a headset?

[light charm]

yeah...
is there a fix for it?

[somber sequoia]

not that I know of

(but I also have not looked for one)

[light charm]

😔
hopefully they'll add some kind of fix for this (like if you manually enable the avatar it will not do the animation culling)

[short iron]

How can I add the "floating" animation I have on the cloud ON animation to the cloud position radial?

[somber sequoia]

you should put in a feature request on canny, or find one that already exists and +1 it

[somber sequoia]

in the condition for cloud on/off check if the radial value is > 0, then it should go on

[short iron]

Where do Ifind that?

Oh I see

[somber sequoia]

You put that as a condition for the transition.

(or whatever other conditions you want)

[short iron]

I put that and it still is doing the same thing it seems

Hopefully im doing it correct

[timber wharf]

@light charm if vrc indeed disables loco layer, which i never heard of, try slaping same onto fx, not like it matters much for generic rigs

[somber sequoia]

those conditions are joined with AND - so both must be true for that to work

I of course don't know how you have anything else set up

[stray trench]

almost none of my packages are appearing here despite having them installed in the project

[somber sequoia]

check the eyeball in the upper right, it may be hiding stuff

[stray trench]

didnt fix anything

[timber wharf]

@short iron if your goal is to pick some frame from animation just use position float as motion time for ON (where on is both enables cloud and moves it)

no need for 2nd blend tree layer at all

[short iron]

But how will it animate with the hovering animation

It has a positional radial but the ON animation has a "floating in the air" type animation

[timber wharf]

k fair then you move howering animation part to other layer, like just entry->hower

[frail temple]

quick question, i am baking my materials into one in blender, most of them are 16x16, 16x8, 8x16, and 32x32, what size should i make the width and height? also, for a lowpoly avatar like this, should i turn on Direct/Indirect light?

This is the model for example https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730948173379535022/1347943633860558971/image.png?ex=67cefb55&is=67cda9d5&hm=49d47e569d6d977b52901d18edc8e462c180cf0f929cf39b30b403d45eb5969e&

It's 42 materials btw

[desert elk]

I've never seen those settings, cause I combine materials differently, but generally you should aim for a size that's the same height and width

[somber sequoia]

for size... up to you. direct/indirect it depends on what kind of baking you are doing

[frail temple]

Alright i see, i am currently debating whether i bake all the materials into one mat or bake the 42 materials into 9 seperate ones

[somber sequoia]

probably aiming for 1k works if it's low-poly, but if you want to stuff a lot of things on one texture set, you might need 2k for detail

kinda depends on what craziness you've done to your UV map

[frail temple]

ignore the lack of arms, some kind of rigging problem

this is what happens when i put all the materials into one

[desert elk]

9 is gonna be not good for performance, if it's already low poly why not make it have less mats? but if you don't want good performance, then it depends what kind of toggles you'd like. Or if you wanna use different shaders for different parts

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what you're showing?

[frail temple]

the UV map of all the materials into one, i think

left is the baked version, right model is the original

[somber sequoia]

not really, but okay

[frail temple]

What do you call the 2d picture that has the textures of a 3d model again?

[somber sequoia]

I mean, if you don't know the model, looking at a UV map isn't really very interesting anyway

[somber sequoia]

depends on which texture it is, I suppose. Anyway, don't put effort into this, I wasn't asking to see your UV map.

[frail temple]

Alright, i'll make it into 3 mats, 1 for the skirt split specfically so i can do the cutout shader for it, one for the head and one for everything else

Quest version's gonna have either 1 or 2

[somber sequoia]

reasonable

[desert elk]

and quest can't do cutout so keep that in mind

when you're making the quest version

[frail temple]

i am guessing i am required to edit the mesh myself in blender to mimic cutout

[desert elk]

yes

[frail temple]

Can quest do Cull?

[desert elk]

you will need to cut the mesh to fit the textures

[somber sequoia]

Quest will cull back, always

[desert elk]

nope, it has backface culling

and only that

[left gull]

Im having a bit of an expression issue, only a single one of my facial expressions is occasionally breaking (the other faces not itself) inconsistently. how would i animate it/set it up to stop it from breaking (sorry about the audio didnt realize ;;) Fixed

[frail temple]

Fuck, gonna have to shift d the skirt/jacket so it doesn't cull

[desert elk]

you'd need to kind of double polygon count if you wanna get around it

yeah, that's what I was gonna say

shift d and flips normals

[frail temple]

Meh, polygon count of this avatar is only like 700

[desert elk]

faces?

[main copper]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[desert elk]

as in 700k? wasn't it supposed to be low poly? and don't upload that to quest

it's gonna crash

if just 700 than okay

[somber sequoia]

You can't use your own stations, so you'd have to setup an animation to pose your model and probably lock some of the IK down so it doesn't move while seated. VRC Animator Tracking Control can do some of that.

[frail temple]

it's 700 vertices and 1k triangles, 900 faces

[desert elk]

ah I understand now

I got worried for a second there xd

[frail temple]

@somber sequoia Huge thanks for the video you sent a while back about baking materials, you've been a huge help!

you too eli!

[desert elk]

those stats I do like

[somber sequoia]

Yeah! it's a really useful technique. not sure if I mentioned, but I use a (non-free) add-on called SimpleBake that makes it really easy.

[frail temple]

Oh yeah i am an idiot, forgot about the direct / indirect option, which one do i choose again?

[somber sequoia]

depends on what kind of baking you are doing

[frail temple]

what kinds are there?

[somber sequoia]

which type of texture do you want to produce? Set up your baking specifically for that.

[frail temple]

Alright i'll figure that out, i'll give it 2k size for the body materials, and calculate the size for the face and double that

[somber sequoia]

you probably do not need 4k textures for this

[frail temple]

Should i just calculate the size of the sum of all the textures (example : three 16x16 textures get 48x48 space) and multiply that by 1.3-1.5x?

because the baked texture i processed has alot of empty space

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure I get why you're doing this math

[frail temple]

cuz eli said i should aim for the same height x width

[desert elk]

but why math?

[somber sequoia]

if you're baking multiple materials to a single with a new UV map you can make that UV map look like whatever you want and target whatever size you want

[desert elk]

exactly

no need for math

complicated stuff

[somber sequoia]

including reshaping islands, such as making some larger when they need more detail

[compact dust]

hi kazin/eli

wa's goin on

[frail temple]

Oh okay, so i just give 2k and worry later

[uncut lotus]

We think this gonna finish?

[glass geyser]

ok. also if I recall, you're the one who recommended tuxedo plugin to me?

[compact dust]

yeh

[desert elk]

it could've been me

[somber sequoia]

or me, but I only really use it for twist bones

[dry ibex]

why is the hair all oily how do i fix it

[desert elk]

could be vertex colours

[dry ibex]

how do i fix it

i dont know what that is

[desert elk]

uhh I would need to browse this channel cause I don't actually know

#avatar-general message

here

[frail temple]

i was gonna say isnt that a blender thing

[dry ibex]

thank you

[desert elk]

it is

but it shows up in unity with quest shaders

[dry ibex]

it did it with other shaders too btw

idk if that info was needed

[compact dust]

what would cause this when applying a new material btw

[glass geyser]

yeah I look back it was. so I tried it, and it generated a bunch of unecessary coppies for different ratings, and highest one was a medium preset, but even then, it doesn't look bad for 14k tris, but now since it combined everything into a single 2k texture, it looks a little pixelated now.

[desert elk]

it generates everything

you need to delete the ones you don't want from the list of things it can generate

pick one or two and it will only generate those

the texture will be pixelated a bit, you could theoretically set it to 4k in unity, but that defeats the whole optimization point

[glass geyser]

Well I was gonna say at this rate, I really do not care if some people block poor as long as it will show up for more, people I come across imediately report to me they see very poor ones I have on. but I was gonna ask if you can just manually set the amount of tris in the output, and literally a single 4k texture won't make a difference. all I wanted really was to just keep the vietmieses while doing the bare minimum for keeping a poor rating so it won't be blocked by default

[compact dust]

a 4k texture takes up quite a bit of memory

[desert elk]

you can put in a custom number of tris in tuxedo

make your own preset to generate

so yes, you can set it manually

[compact dust]

eli would you happen to know

[somber sequoia]

"this"?

[compact dust]

mb, the black outline around it

lemme get a better picture

[somber sequoia]

seems all black

[desert elk]

yeah, all i see is black

[compact dust]

its the same texture just with a color change, dont know what changes the color in the shader settings though

[somber sequoia]

yeah really no way to see what's going on from just those pics

[desert elk]

1. Add a new platform
2. Select it
3. Set the amount of tris
4. Set the texture size if you want

done

custom baking settings stuff

it will generate all platforms you have in there
so you should only have one or two, because baking takes a long time

[glass geyser]

ok, I'll do that. thank you. one last thing for now, I see the model like, has bones already for the tail and other parts of the fur, but the times I've put it in the sdk, it turns out they're not animated. I'm not sure if it's cause I have to generate an animator for a humanoid avatar, so would there be a way to get it to use them or is it better to just look into pumpkin tools to try to get the physbones from pc somehow and transfer them onto the quest/android avatar?

[desert elk]

what do you mean by animated?

and i highly recommend adding physbones manually to your quest version, so you know where they go. And keep in mind that you can have max 8 components. Easier to keep track of if you do it yourself

[uncut lotus]

Dude iots been like 30 minutes, is thsi shit gonna work?

[compact dust]

got it, its bc the color change materials have an outline set to 0.1, but the original has it set to 0.0001

[glass geyser]

with the novabeast you can usually see the tail, ear, chest fur and that stuff move but because I'm just using the fbx, it's all static.

and how would I add them manually I have no idea about how physbones work

[left gull]

depending on what you did to trigger the load then it might be reasonable

[desert elk]

ah that's physbones yeah

?

[left gull]

@dusk tundra

[compact dust]

physbone tutorial

[desert elk]

ah

[left gull]

yeah didnt reply properly

oopsies :P

[desert elk]

yeah, i can link you a physbone tutorial i watched and has many useful info

[compact dust]

hi eli

[desert elk]

hi mich... meshvr?

[glass geyser]

ok. but I'll be doing this little at a time since I'm not gonna spend too much time on this.

[compact dust]

it was a joke thingy

[desert elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyY6VFjOMz8&t=962s

here's two shorter tutorials if you don't have the attention span
physbones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTTnWUkswkU&t=10s
physbone colliders: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT6wO01dwTU&t=9s

[compact dust]

how make radial for multiple materials :D

unless vrcf has one

[somber sequoia]

I'd use a blendtree

[compact dust]

well vrcf has a slider, but it looks like it only does blendshapes?

lemme test that ✔️

[somber sequoia]

I dunno, I don't use Fury for this

[compact dust]

im not good with blendtrees

[desert elk]

i use blendtrees too

it was a pain to learn, but now i think they're quite fun to do

[somber sequoia]

I use the heck out of direct blendtrees, but you don't need to go there for just this one thing

[desert elk]

yeah

[uncut lotus]

Dude, it wont even let me close it

[compact dust]

task manager

[uncut lotus]

what do i do on itZ?

[desert elk]

force close unity

[compact dust]

task manager, gettem!

[uncut lotus]

How do I do that on Task Manager

[compact dust]

click it
force close

end task

[desert elk]

open task manager, right click unity, end task

[uncut lotus]

I couldnt find Unity at first

got it

[compact dust]

would suck if you didnt have it saved

[uncut lotus]

I didnt

Thats the only reason I waited so long

But I like, saved before what I was trying to do, so I just gotta start this one process over.

[dry ibex]

still having this problem

[dusty monolith]

Is your smoothness down

[dry ibex]

Yes

[dusty monolith]

Is there any vertex paint in blender?

[dry ibex]

everyuthing is white

[honest apex]

making my first avatar, does anyone know why its backwards?

[dusty monolith]

Normals are right side up?

[dry ibex]

Yes

[dusty monolith]

Is your scale and positions positive?

[dry ibex]

How do i adjust that

[night ember]

needs to face -y

[dusty monolith]

alt a apply all transforms having the mesh selected

[honest apex]

i tried it like that previously and it didnt work but i can try again

[dusty monolith]

Then make sure normals didn’t flip if so just flip it again

[night ember]

you rigged it backwards so youd need to rerig it properly

[dry ibex]

Thank you chat!!! this fixed it

woops

forgto to reply

[dusty monolith]

Lol ur good

[dry ibex]

thanks

[dusty monolith]

Np

[honest apex]

i just had to flip name directions and it worked, thank you for the help though!

[compact dust]

spaghetti unity coding

anyways
i need a good blendtree tut

[worldly whale]

what does a vrc spatial audio source do?

i tried setting the gain and far on an animation to increase the volume and distance of the volume and nothjing changed

[desert elk]

I used this one: https://youtu.be/ES4DHdNZ1-o?si=E-j9tD8mf_funqLn

[night ember]

idk if its animateable but iirc its just a more optimized way to handle audio

[compact dust]

yeah nvm i gave up and im gonna do it the non-optimized way

[desert elk]

but the comments say that they forgot how to show one step, but it's not that hard to figure out

[night ember]

also fixes some issues

[desert elk]

alrighty

[compact dust]

but ty eli 🥺

[worldly whale]

like it looks like i can be but i dont know if it actually works

[oak shale]

How do I add tails and stuff?

[compact dust]

create the tail fbx, import into blender, give it bones/weight painting, then import to unity

probably

[night ember]

I mean it fixes issues where the audio doesnt understand where it is

[desert elk]

if your avatar is humanoid there's no need to create a generic rig

if it isn't then it's a different story and I'm not sure how to go about that

[oak shale]

Oh it is humanoid but I want the long parts of their hair to move

[desert elk]

you do that with physbones

[night ember]

you add physbones

[worldly whale]

so its not animatable? how would i make it louder then 1?

[desert elk]

set the rig to humanoid and apply
and after that you can add phsybone components

Google a tutorial on what they are

[oak shale]

👍

[night ember]

make the audio itself louder as you cant get louder than 1

[worldly whale]

bruh, damn it

[agile sapphire]

has anyone else's uploads slowed down significantly?

[night ember]

nah

[agile sapphire]

how weird

[desert elk]

it could take longer if the stats are bigger

[cloud lodge]

Does the world freeze save its original location if someone hides and shows your avatar again?

[compact dust]

what does vrcf "protect with security" do

[compact dust]

doubt it bc it unloads the asset

[desert elk]

nope, you still move around the world

[jovial pollen]

What is a compiler error and how do i fix it?

[somber sequoia]

look in your console window

[jovial pollen]

this is what it says

[balmy barn]

check the red ones

[warped root]

unsure if this is the right channel but, I got this avatar and it has some really cool variants to the clothing. However I dont know what basecolors are and where these slots would be found, any time I try to drop the textures onto what I think is the correct piece of clothing it doesnt show up at all or It doesnt look how it should help?

[somber sequoia]

Seems like a number of errors from add-on packages, perhaps they are not compatible?

and one just not added at all

[jovial pollen]

ill check the assets

thank

i deleted the ones i wasn't using and it worked, thank you!

[somber sequoia]

nice and easy

[short iron]

How come in Blender it says I have 69k but in Unity 103k?

I dont get it lol

[somber sequoia]

did you forget to count particle systems?

[short iron]

I have all gameobjects turned on in Blender for accuratcy

I have 2 particle systems with combined max paritcle count is 33

[somber sequoia]

are they mesh particles though?

[short iron]

I dont think so? Theyre both just materials

[somber sequoia]

look at "Render mode" in the "Renderer" tab, if set to "Mesh" then each particle's mesh counts

[short iron]

Both is billboard

[somber sequoia]

ok not that then

[short iron]

I cant figure it out

[inland pumice]

so i want to add physbone to the 2 long hairs, does anyone have suggestions how i should make the forces?

i tried some forces but it looks kinda odd

[compact dust]

MIKU!

[inland pumice]

miku miku beam

[compact dust]

i would recommend smth like gravity 0.2, gravity falloff 0.075 to begin with

idk messing around with gravity/immobile is fun

[arctic ginkgo]

I like using curves on gravity for long twintails

Done this for a few characters (miku, sweetheart, entrapta)

What looks best to me is to have the gravity at 0 towards the top, then where the hair bends down, have it go up to 1 on the graph, and then back down to 0 towards the end of the hair

This helps it keep it's shape

[uncut lotus]

What does this mean!?!?!

[arctic ginkgo]

But also lets the hair point all the way down

[compact dust]

means update no worky work

upload

[arctic ginkgo]

It means your avatar build failed, you need to check the console to know why

[compact dust]

hi "sunshine/peepymou"

:D

[glass geyser]

sooo I do that, 20k tris and 4k texture, but these past 2 times after all the time waiting, blender just closes itself during the process and all I get are the textures, not the model which ruins it.

[arctic ginkgo]

Hi "michstan el waffle lover or smth" :3

[compact dust]

[inland pumice]

@compact dust @arctic ginkgo okay thanks

[arctic ginkgo]

Hope your miku goes well

[uncut lotus]

Wait, so do I have to delete that hidden one for it too work?

[arctic ginkgo]

What errors are in your console? Because you shouldn't have to delete it, no

[desert elk]

I can't help you with that, since it always worked for me. The only thing I can recommend is to try again or reach out to the tuxedo discord, it's not very active though.

[arctic ginkgo]

Okay try enabling the hidden avatar, then go to the build panel and select the correct avatar

Sometimes it tries to upload a disabled avatar even if it isn't selected, not sure why but enabling it and selecting the correct avatar seems to fix it (even if you then disable the avatar again)

[uncut lotus]

thank you so mcuh it woooooooooorked

Wait a minute, how do I make a new one of this model, and stuff without it overrighting the model?

[jovial pollen]

Is there any way to make particles for quest?

[arctic ginkgo]

Yes, you can use any of the quest allowed shaders. If you're not sure what they are, you can check the creator docs, but if you have an idea of what effect you're going for lmk and I can recommend one

[jovial pollen]

i toyed around with some of the allowed particles, and managed it

thank you!

[glass geyser]

where, they don't provide one

if you need to dm me go ahead

[desert elk]

??? it's the first thing in the read me on GitHub

[compact dust]

does vrcf have a world constraint where you can spawn an item and leave it

i assume thats what "world drop" is

[somber meadow]

yep

[night ember]

yea? those are just animations

fx layer for the expressions
gesture layer for the hand pose

[glass geyser]

oh ok I didn't see it lol I'm used to just seeing the images at the bottom if github projects ever link their socials

I'm in a rush so I just skimp through things

[desert elk]

mhm

you put the faces in fx layer and gestures in the gesture layer

https://youtu.be/UU9NFJz2qls?si=gC0auanYpQRBrCll

gestures go in gestures

you will need to move them there

[somber sequoia]

gestures as in hand movements should be in the gesture layer.
facial expressions triggered when you perform certain hand movements generally go in FX

[livid yarrow]

why am i getting this??? this is my first time trying to upload this (specific) avatar, shes just been sitting in blender the whole time until now??

my blueprint ID is empty.

[dusty monolith]

how to fix this?

[untold minnow]

I got this model from Sketchfab but I can’t seem to sculpt the model at all, the vertices aren’t the problem as it has enough, I just can’t edit the mesh at all and I wanted to know if anyone could help out

The model has clothes on, it was just suggestive so I blocked it out just in case

[dusty monolith]

are you on a inactive shapekey?

[untold minnow]

I’m still relatively new to blender so I have no idea what that is

[dusty monolith]

is basis highlighted? or is there anything there at all

[untold minnow]

Basis is highlighted yes

[hollow meteor]

no matter what I do it wont go as a humanoid, I tried enforcing tpose too ( yes I added the chest bone ) can someone please help?

[untold minnow]

Is your forearm bone a child of your upper arm bone

I had that same issue earlier and that was the fix for me

[dusty monolith]

maybe its your active modifier?

[hollow meteor]

yes?

[untold minnow]

the only ones I have active on the mesh

[untold minnow]

check once more on blender

the direct problem with mine was it had two identical bones in the same area but the wrong one was parented to the wrong bone

if not that then I am sorry for that was all I could provide

hopefully another would be able to provide further assistance

[untold minnow]

I am sorry I have no idea what may be the issue

you could try the browser to see if that could help, or reddit. Reddit always helps me

[bold marten]

Take two with my night peeps now- Been having this issue with new avatars, It won't import the asset at all and noone has had an answer. I'm in the updated SDK and current vrc unity version but noone from the avatar servers knows what to do

[uncut lotus]

Bro, Im litterally soooooo close......

The butterfly toggles on, but the butterfly is for some reason in his leg? I even went back to blender, and made sure to apply the transfer again, and still it's in his leg :(

Ideas?

[ashen crane]

(2nd send cuz first one failed) so the arm isnt supposed to glitch like that, and in unity, it looks fine, what did i possibly do wrong??

[uncut lotus]

I also have align position on

[ornate stump]

If your storage doesn't have enough space to import and that would cause it to failed. Another common cause is the package file itself is simply broken.

[ornate stump]

If your model rest pose arm elbow angle is completely straight, that would cause unpredictable rotation like that.

[ashen crane]

so it should be slightly bent?

[ornate stump]

Slightly bent toward direction of intended bending.

[ashen crane]

i see

[ashen crane]

sadly it still does it

the thing is that its not the actual forearm bone spinning, i have another bone parented to the forearm bone thats suppose to immitate it and be able to spin

this is how the animation is supposed to look like

[ornate stump]

Weird that it causes entire arm spin. Does the animation controlling the arm also?

[ashen crane]

nope, no keyframes are modifying the actual arm

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the animation panel to confirm?

[ashen crane]

all the things highlighted are the arm bones

the bone ArmCannon is the one that spins the arm

[ornate stump]

To test this, try removing the transform properties and see if the arm still spin.

[valid olive]

does anyone know how to fix this

[ornate stump]

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/vcruntime140dll-and-msvcp140dll-missing-in-windows/caf454d1-49f4-4d2b-b74a-c83fb7c38625

[ashen crane]

alr so i removed the keyframes that made the fake forearm rotate and the arm doesnt spin anymore, but it doesnt glitch as well

[light trench]

Hey just wondering if anyone knew about this weird issue.
On this specific avatar the mouth is Jagged and weird during a couple Visemes in unity.
In blender they work great! its when the mouth frowns in unity it becomes jagged.

any idea on how to fix?

[valid olive]

TYSM

[ornate stump]

That's really weird the transform animation affecting parent transform.

[ashen crane]

yeah, tell me about it lol

[ornate stump]

Is the animation on gesture layer or fx layer?

[ashen crane]

fx

all of my animations r on fx

[ashen crane]

could the problem be that theres multiple child bones on my forearm bone?

[ornate stump]

I don't think so. Unless multiple bones have same name which isn't the case. My hypothesis is the animation mess up with arm IK tracking. which this doesn't show up when testing in unity because gesture manager doesn't emulate IK tracking.

[ashen crane]

damn, even when i added back the rotation keyframes onto the animation, it restarted glitching

[ornate stump]

Is it only the ArmCannon that's causing the issue?

[ashen crane]

yep

ik that sounds weird, but could it be a problem w my tpose?

[ashen crane]

wow i found something out

[ornate stump]

What could it be?

[ashen crane]

when fully on the ground, the glitch seems less apparent??

i wonder if the glitch even appears when using the avi on VR

[ornate stump]

Might even be more prominent on VR.

[ashen crane]

that... sucks.....

could this be the cause of this?

[arctic depot]

Could someone help me with a thing please?
How can I make a mesh to be hidden in first person (VR mode)?

[ornate stump]

Possibly. Very likely.

[ornate stump]

Use HeadCap component.

[arctic depot]

You mean this?
I'm trying it but it doesn't hide the mesh, both with scale factor 0 and 1

[ornate stump]

Yes. HeadChop. You have to put the bone as the transform.

[arctic depot]

The mesh I need to be hidden doesn't have a bone, is there another way to make it work?

[ornate stump]

If you use scale tool to scale that transform, does the mesh scale correctly?

[arctic depot]

Oh yeah that's the problem, it doesn't scale since it's just a mesh

[ornate stump]

Is it mesh renderer, or skinned mesh renderer?

[arctic depot]

skinned

[ornate stump]

Then it has bones.

[arctic depot]

It's tied to the Neck bone, maybe I should try that

[ornate stump]

Yes. But I'm not sure the effect of headchopping humanoid bone.

[arctic depot]

Ok, I'll make some tests, thanks

[dark hamlet]

is there a way to turn off idle blinking without also disabling eye movement?

[somber meadow]

as in entirely or through an animation?

[dark hamlet]

entirely, so it doesn't happen at all but my eyes can still track people

[fallow gulch]

If you set the blinking blendshape to none in the avatar descriptor, then the avatar won't blink at all
To add blinking back in a toggleable way, you gotta make an animation for blinking, and an animation where the avatar doesn't blink
Then you can make a layer for this in the FX controller, with these 2 animations
You can use a bool to transition between blinking and not blinking

[dark hamlet]

that's the thing, it is set to none right now which is why I was so confused

I think I found the issue though, there's something in the animator which seems to be custom blinking logic, wasn't named anything related to that so I looked over it

yeah that was it lol

thanks regardless! 🙏

[somber meadow]

FX based blinking but it's not named correctly

sounds fun

[surreal grail]

this error is preventing me from uploading. Help!

i have no idea how to fix it

[ornate stump]

One of your playable layer is corrupted. If you're using vrcfury or modular avatar, try restarting unity and see if it's resolved.

[surreal grail]

already restarted unity

its happening for me and the person i sent the file to

[ornate stump]

Then the file is corrupted.

[surreal grail]

i found it

it was one of my animators

[gray pewter]

Is there any way to play a sound in reverse using VRCAnimatorPlayAudio in the same way that you can by playing a clip with negative speed?

[main copper]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[arctic ginkgo]

Maybe the pitch values? They actually affect speed as well

[rustic creek]

random question but does anyone know how to scale down the 3D icons when in Unity

[timber delta]

everytime i try to import my model to unity it keeps giving me this issue with the foot despite me knowing its fine. the other foot and other bones work fine but it keeps giving me the most trouble here for no reason and i have no clue why.

i dont know what to do now. ive tried to troubleshoot for 2 hours now and nothing has worked for me

[ashen crane]

Yikes, that’s what I was hoping wasn’t the problem… meaning I can’t really fix it unless going back into blender and fixing the model… meaning I have to restart the animations 😭😭

[ornate stump]

You could use Silent's avatar tools to reorder bone.

[ashen crane]

Link pls?

[ornate stump]

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/silenttools

[desert elk]

What icons do you mean?

[rustic creek]

Like the audio and light ones

[left gull]

i dont think you can scale them only turn them off completely

click this (or open the dropdown and toggle specifically the audio and light checkboxes) to hide them completely

[regal raft]

I need help

[left gull]

gotta specify what you need help with rather then vauge posting

[regal raft]

Need help finding different variants of the robot avatar

[desert elk]

go to prismic or #1138520828556890214

[half moth]

You can!

[balmy barn]

scaling and turning them off is there

[half moth]

I forget where the option to scale them is I don't have unity open atm

[balmy barn]

my cam and lights usually off, i know where they are dont need to see them

[civic hornet]

soooo... for some reason, my avatar's parameter menu is empty in the game. even though it's not empty in unity. what the hell is going on??

[spring jolt]

Anybody can explain how to make texture changing?
I mean I already have animations for it.

For example I'm making Hoodie = 2 and Animator plays Set Texture 2 and then Show Hoodie
My problem is: Actions from Set Texture 2 are resets when Show Hoodie plays.

Set Texture 2

Clothes: Skinned Mesh Renderer.Material._Texture Hoodie ID = 1 (Parameter from Shader)
Show Hoodie:
Clothes: Skinned Mesh Renderer.Blend Shape.Hide.Hoodie = From 100 to 0 (Parameter from Blend Shape)

I have no override of animation keys but Show Hoodie don't remember Texture Hoodie ID from Set Texture 2

All Animations have Write Defaults = ON

Or I should make texture Settings in separate Layer?

[mental estuary]

You can't swap textures, only materials

[spring jolt]

I can. I made texture atlas and with help of AI I made UV Offset in Shader

[mental estuary]

An offset isn't a texture swap, that's animating an offset

If it's just an int, then setting the int in the animation should work fine 🤷‍♂️

[untold minnow]

Might anyone know why I cannot sculpt my mesh at all? It’s not the vertices as it has more than enough

[spring jolt]

Atlas have 16 tiles with 1024x1024 textures. And Offset modifying looks like texture swap. But it is offtop for my question

My question is, how make unity to remember data from previous animation

[fallen bear]

i need help. im following a tutorial on doing facial animations for a vroid avatar but theres nothing and i dont know what to do

its telling me to go to the packages for the animations stuff but theres nothing

[mental estuary]

You don't? You set the offset index for each swap you want it to be in

Each animation needs all the data in it that should be animated. WD on means that if the field isn't animated it will return to its default

[fallen bear]

https://youtu.be/mMhDy5gQ21g?si=CeDM8y01gSFxX_wh&t=321 this is the tutorial im following

[rocky python]

how do i get permission to upload a avatar?

[desert elk]

expand the avatar and click on the body if what you're looking for are blendshapes

and click the eye in the top right corner of the assets if what you're looking for are missing packages

and just so you know the X in your view position should be 0

[somber sequoia]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[spring jolt]

that means I need to make 7 copies of Show Hoddie to keep texture on it?

Because I have 7 Set Texture Animations

[somber sequoia]

I haven't read the whole history but in each of those, also enable the hoodie.

or put the enable/disable in a separate layer, though this is slightly worse for performance.

[spring jolt]

Enable/Disable are animations with smooth appearing. I think it will be hard to sync "texture swap" and appearing/disappearing of hoodie in separate layers

[mental estuary]

If the enable animation is separate then no, but if your texture setting is tied to your enabling of the hoodie, yes

[spring jolt]

Earlier I did animations in Godot, and in there objects remembers states modyfied in animaitons.
In Unity I have troubles with that.

Yeah I have 7 animations which material modifies and 2 animations for enable and disable hoodie

[mental estuary]

Unity WD on means that if a field isn't animated it will return to the default value. WD off would work with what you want, I think, but you shouldn't mix WD modes

If the texture offset setting is separate from the enabling then you don't need to include the enabling in the texture offset animations

But it needs to be on a different layer

[spring jolt]

I tried to remove Write Defaults for Show Animation. No changes.
I removed Write Defaults from Set Texture and Show Animation. No Changes

[mental estuary]

Because mixing WD has bugs, is probably why

[mental estuary]

^

[spring jolt]

I don't undertand it

[mental estuary]

Have your enabling in a different layer from the texture offset changing

Then you can animate just the texture offset in a layer, and it will go between all the animations you want

Or, just use VRCFury and make a flipbook builder slider with the set material property action

[spring jolt]

VRCFury breaks entire avatar... I already spent 2 days to fix consequences of that plugin.

[mental estuary]

No it doesn't. You probably just used it wrong

And if it did, report the issue in their server instead of dismissing it

[spring jolt]

I followed tutorials and pressed same buttons

[mental estuary]

Tutorial was probably old. VRCF has multiple updates a day

[spring jolt]

GoGo Loco also removes with VRCFurry. I mean it make me choise, or I will use my own animation sets or use GoGo Loco only

[mental estuary]

Anyway... You've got your solution for the texture offset swapping

[spring jolt]

it will be buggy as one guy said here

[spring jolt]

Seems I need to make 7 Enable animations and 7 Disable animations...

[somber sequoia]

I must not understand what problem you are trying to solve with this.

are you now doing the WD off workflow?

[spring jolt]

I just want to make switching textures, but playing. I Pressed Skin 2, and it shows Set Skin 2 and then it plays Enable Hoodie with Skin 1

WD is ON everywhere

[somber sequoia]

if the object is off by default, then you shouldn't need more than a single enable animation, using WD On.

[spring jolt]

Object is enabled, but it have animations where Blend Shapes smoothly makes Hoodie visible

[somber sequoia]

ahh. Okay then on and off makes some sense.

[spring jolt]

and I guess I need to make Show Hoodie + Skin 1 and then use Set Skin 1 to remember a texture of hoodie.

[quasi trail]

This is just a question on how to do something, I have an avatar Of a box tv, and I want to make a toggle that makes the tv stay where it is and allows me to move away from it while invisible myself.

[somber sequoia]

VRC Parent Constraint, toggle the option to freeze it to the world. I forget the exact name of that option but it's obvious.

[quasi trail]

I see a "parent constraint" component but not a VRC one, I assume that's it?

[somber sequoia]

no that's the Unity one. You may have an old SDK.

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/constraints/vrc-parent-constraint/

Freeze To World

[wicked fulcrum]

uh im confused everytime i try to upload an avatar i get this message

i have no idea how to fix this

[somber sequoia]

is this the only error you have?

[wicked fulcrum]

i mean theres this, but the main one that pups up in the sdk is the other one

[somber sequoia]

paste the first 2-3 errors, at the top.

this looks like you have version incompatibilities though, maybe make sure your SDK is up to date.

[wicked fulcrum]

its the newest

[spring jolt]

Newest SDK also requires specific version of Unity

[wicked fulcrum]

wich one ?

[somber sequoia]

2022.3.22f1

[spring jolt]

I use 2022.3.22f1 as Companion recommended

[wicked fulcrum]

okay yeah i have that one i just checked

[quasi trail]

Yeah so, slight issue, the only way to update the SDK is to update my unity project as a whole, and when I do that the whole project breaks.

[somber sequoia]

both of those statements seem weird

I mean, yes, this is project based, but what breaks exactly?

[quasi trail]

Well tbh I don't know if "breaks" is the right way to put it, but rather, the new version of the project gets like 60 red errors in the console, I haven't tried uploading yet though, so I'll try that real quick and get back to you.

[somber sequoia]

Clear the console and do a build, see what shows up there.

[quasi trail]

Can't clear it, and when I try to playtest it tells me that I have to fix all compiler errors.

[somber sequoia]

yeah you have issues with version mismatches - upgrade the other packages also if you haven't. Like Gesture Manager.

[civic hornet]

I still need help on this

[quasi trail]

I think the only thing that needs to be upgraded is gesture manager, but I can't find it in the asset tray, do I just drag and drop the latest version of it into the project and it will just upgrade automatically?

[somber sequoia]

I don't use VCC but you should be able to handle it with that

[quasi trail]

Yup, that fixed it, thanks Mr. Clutch Master.

[somber sequoia]

excellent

[frail temple]

I joined all my meshes as one like an idiot and separating by loose parts doesn't put it back like it used to before, is there a way to transfer the mesh data from the backup blender project?

[desert elk]

not that I know of

you could separate by materials or by selection

[somber sequoia]

you could import the backup mesh objects though

[desert elk]

oh nice

[quasi trail]

Hey, sorry to bug you again, but I'm trying to make the toggle using the VRC parent constraint, but it's not working, the animation itself looks fine, and I have set it up in the animator, but when I playtest, the option to freeze the object doesn't toggle as it should.

[wild robin]

this isnt really avatar help more of help with the SDK panel, ive tried looking online to see if anyone else has had the same issue or asked my friends but a lot of them dont even have this version of the SDK..

is there any fix?

[onyx owl]

You have to click on the avi in the hierarchy

Then go to one of the side tabs like conntent manager and then go back

Should refresh

[onyx owl]

Also make sure u have the avatar descriptor set up properly

[quasi trail]

Let me show you what I mean, In the animator, when the animation is triggered during playtest, it doesn't do anything, yet outside of playtest, the animation does what it's supposed to.

[onyx owl]

What are u tryna do with this exactly?

[balmy barn]

thats not how you do a world drop check advanced settings , 'freeze to world' , you must have a element source or it will never go back to origin

[onyx owl]

Yep yep

[onyx owl]

Damn beat me to it

XD

[quasi trail]

My avatar is of a box tv, and I want to make a toggle which freezes the tv in place so that you can move away from it while invisible yourself.

[onyx owl]

Ya

That's called a world drop

What u do is set the source to the spawn point of the object

[onyx owl]

(I recommend making a game object for it)

BRO

Thulen

Super sonic speeds up in here

Holy

Also

One last thing,

Make sure to have rebake offsets off

[quasi trail]

But then why doesn't the animator toggle the "is Active" option on the script when playtested?

[onyx owl]

Cuz that's what saying the contraint is working

Without it goes by the point to where the object is located on the avi

[untold minnow]

Can anyone help me figure out why my mesh doesn’t move when I try to sculpt it?

[quasi trail]

Than what exactly should the animation toggle to activate and deactivate the freeze?

[onyx owl]

The world drop

Freeze to World

First frame have it off

Then second frame turn it on

Should be in advanced settings on the constraint

[wild robin]

im still new-ish to unity.. lol

i did the first thing you said and it didnt work

[onyx owl]

It's all good

[onyx owl]

U can message me in DM's and I can take a look

[quasi trail]

Just tried it and when playtested it still doesn't toggle that option either.

[onyx owl]

Do u have the source set right

like we told u to

[wild robin]

ok

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure about your actual question, but just note that you're working on a specific shape key rather than Basis.

[untold minnow]

How can I fix that

Basis is highlighted in the thing, someone helped me earlier with that

[somber sequoia]

in the upper left, it doesn't say Basis though

[untold minnow]

How can I fix that?

[somber sequoia]

it's possible you selected that in a different editing mode, you'd have to look in the shape key list to confirm.

[quasi trail]

So the source should just be an empty game object set to wherever I want the item to drop? And the target transform should be the object I want to be frozen?

[somber sequoia]

target transform is the object, yes, but it can be blank if the constraint is on that object.

[untold minnow]

Perhaps object mode or edit mode?

[somber sequoia]

no, those are different modes, pick the shape key you want when in the mode you're using.

[untold minnow]

And that should be “basis” in sculpt mode right?

[quasi trail]

Still getting the same problem...

[somber sequoia]

it should be whichever shape key you want to sculpt

[untold minnow]

I honestly have no understanding of shape keys as this is my first time having a issue about it

I don’t know what a shape keys defines

[quasi trail]

The box just won't tick in playtest for some reason.

[somber sequoia]

time for some blender basics then.
"basis" is the default. every other shape key contains data describing where each vertex is relative to that default.

[somber sequoia]

do you have an animation active affecting that? That would prevent you from manually clicking it.

[balmy barn]

constraint not used

[quasi trail]

I do yes, multiple in fact, it's a tv so there needs to be animations which change what's on the screen.

[untold minnow]

So for example if I wanted to morph the forearm id need to select the bone that the forearm mesh is connect to in the shape keys?

[somber sequoia]

You can't manually change a thing in play mode which is set via an animation.

[somber sequoia]

bones have nothing to do with shape keys

they exist only on a given mesh object.

[quasi trail]

What if I made it an int instead of a bool?

[somber sequoia]

irrelevant

[untold minnow]

So I have the select the forearm shape key?