avatar-help

[somber sequoia]

easy enough to merge animators with Avatars 3.0 manager

[crimson pendant]

I'm not the only one having this issue

literally just search "left leg" in this channel

[night ember]

I dont exactly think youd stand perfectly mirrored irl

[crimson pendant]

this isn't irl

[night ember]

And this isnt an issue

[crimson pendant]

animations should be accomodating for as many avatar types as possible

[night ember]

It would be an issue if there was no possible way to fix it

[compact dust]

Ok so I’ve got the model done for those earrings, next step is bones and weight painting right

[crimson pendant]

so you're saying it's not an issue if it needs fixing in the first place?

[night ember]

It takes you less than a minute to fix it

[night ember]

Its not an issue that needs to be fixed to begin with

[crimson pendant]

tell that to the others who had the same issue

[night ember]

My digitigrade avis are completely fine with the default

[crimson pendant]

show me please

[somber sequoia]

same

it also could be that I don't think this is a big deal

[compact dust]

i dont see much of a problem if it takes less than a minute to fix

[somber sequoia]

it's fine if you do.

[crimson pendant]

modifying animation files in unity takes less than a minute?

[compact dust]

im not the one who said how long

im just commenting 🥺

[night ember]

Its literally just find default locomotion layer then ctrl+d
Find standing idle then ctrl+d

[crimson pendant]

fair enough

[crimson pendant]

right, then modify the files you duplicated

[night ember]

Which shouldnt take long at all to do

[compact dust]

dude if these earings work they're gonna be so cool (to me)

[night ember]

Half of me says "nice" the other half says "slay"

[compact dust]

slice 🥺

[night ember]

And dice

[crimson pendant]

I have a hunch this isn't the only animation file I'm gonna need to fix

[compact dust]

yuhh

[crimson pendant]

there's a lot

like a LOT

[compact dust]

ctrl a
ctrl d

would that work 😭

[crimson pendant]

for duplicating, yeah

[night ember]

Why would you even need to change the other ones

[somber sequoia]

FYI animation files are just yaml text files, you can edit them in many fun ways

[crimson pendant]

it's likely this isn't the only animation with a nonparallel leg

[compact dust]

gangnam style :D

[somber sequoia]

I admit to doing this more than twice

[night ember]

You do know that you dont stand parallel irl either right? Its not exactly a natural stance

[compact dust]

you dont?

[crimson pendant]

again, this isn't irl

[compact dust]

i do (i think)

i do not usually stare at my feet

[night ember]

Making it perfectly mirror would make it look weird in itself

[compact dust]

google drive takes too long to upload files >:C

[crimson pendant]

then it should be changed so the difference is only minor

[compact dust]

i cant transfer my model to my pc

[crimson pendant]

and not totally askew

[compact dust]

it says 1hour for an earring

[night ember]

Or just do it yourself since its entirely your choice

[crimson pendant]

I still would like to see how your all's digitigrade leg avis aren't having this issue

[compact dust]

idk any i had were uploaded like a year ago

i dont do ones with em anymore

[crimson pendant]

and from a game dev perspective, telling a section of your users to just fix the problem for you is kinda shitty

[compact dust]

well if it's not messed up on a normal leg avi.. then erm

not their fault

[somber sequoia]

digitgrade legs are a nonstandard case

[night ember]

Its literally game development in its entirety

[fiery crow]

how are u configuring ur digigrade btw, is it with constraints or final IK?

[compact dust]

if the animation wasnt originally meant for that then like

[crimson pendant]

vrc constraints

[somber sequoia]

constraints and some animations and contact stuff - I looked at final IK but haven't put a lot of work into it yet

[night ember]

Its not even an official thing either
Its a thing you manually add

[fiery crow]

yeah ive been wanting to make some but was unsure which was the best result

[somber sequoia]

right

[compact dust]

kazin do you remember my earring bone questions earlier

[crimson pendant]

it's not the digitigrade legs inherently causing the issue though

those kinds of legs are puppeted by plantigrade legs

[somber sequoia]

I remember you had questions but I'm definitely not going to go read the history

[crimson pendant]

the same as any other avi

[compact dust]

yeah but you at least know of it

[night ember]

Its not vrchat's fault if your unofficial rig doesnt work with official animations how you want it to

[crimson pendant]

plantigrade is official

[somber sequoia]

just ask your question

[compact dust]

well i dont have an example to show you yet, lemme get the model uploaded and then ill have it

[night ember]

And the animation works perfectly fine on it

[somber sequoia]

...

please don't waste my time

[compact dust]

sorri 😭

[crimson pendant]

when the thigh length is similar to the shin length

any other time, that's when this issue shows up

[night ember]

Having weird rigs is specifically its own thing and doesnt mean its an issue because its not working for you specifically

Just change the animation if you dont like it

[crimson pendant]

it's not me specifically

[balmy marlin]

I mean how they're nested inside of each other, I don't know what I'm looking at. I've only been using unity for a couple of days now. I've never done this stuff before.

[crimson pendant]

again, check this channel history

multiple people have had this exact issue across several different avatars

[night ember]

That list top to bottom is right to left in the round menu

[night ember]

Its a nonissue since its just swapping an animation because you dint like how it looks

[compact dust]

yo @crimson pendant and @night ember talk abt it in #avatar-general if you're not helping anyone 🥺

[crimson pendant]

again, tell that to the multiple people who disagree

[night ember]

Its like trying to say "the robot avatar looks bad and should be changed because I dont like the look of it vrchat pls fix xoxo"

Just change it
Thats literally what avatar development is

[compact dust]

i do not believe my diffusion helped 😔

[night ember]

Doesnt help if you are trying to get through a brick wall

[crimson pendant]

I can't wait for every vrchat video tutorial for digitigrade leg setup in the future to get to the part where the leg is crooked and be like "okay so here we gotta get a whole new animator/animations for the legs because uhhhhhhhhhh"

like cmon

these avis are way too common to be dismissed like that

[night ember]

"So you want an avatar that isnt the robot cause you dont like it? Heres a section on how to make a different model"

[night ember]

just change the animation

[crimson pendant]

🤦

[night ember]

The one we have now works fine and doesnt warrant change just for your specific unofficially supported rig

[crimson pendant]

yeah whatever

[compact dust]

i believe that the time spent talking (arguing?) abt it probably is enough time to change the animations

maybe

[somber sequoia]

so having done this twice, I didn't experience it, I wonder what's weird about what you're doing

[night ember]

Change it to a completely different pose entirely

[crimson pendant]

could you show your setup, if possible?

oh yeah that's another thing

this wasn't an issue with older sdks

[compact dust]

:)

[crimson pendant]

this was fine before

but has become an issue

because of updates

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what to show you since it's a bit complex

[night ember]

In the time you have been bitching about an animation file you couldve completely remade the entire locomotion layer

[crimson pendant]

my point is that not everyone should have to do this for an avatar this common

especially when they didn't have to before

[somber sequoia]

also, again, I use FBT so I bet I wouldn't notice this even if it were a thing

I suspect most people don't care

[compact dust]

yeah if you were in unity itd probably be like "oh that looks weird, oh well"

[night ember]

"Not everyone should have to swap out the avatar from the default robot"

[crimson pendant]

no, what you're saying is that not everyone should have as easy of a setup process as possible

if it takes so little time to change, why not have the devs fix it for everyone?

it would take them 10 minutes apparently

[night ember]

Avatar development has not one ever held your hand
Also you are acting like you need a nuclear physics degree just to change an animation

[night ember]

Its not an issue to begin with so why fix what isnt broken

[compact dust]

kazin and i watchin this with a bowl of popcorn 🍿

[night ember]

Hell a lot of the time you wont even see it ingame cause the automatic foot placement overrides the idle

[crimson pendant]

You're overestimating most people's capabilities. I can do it because I have experience with Unity, but most people setting up and avi download one that's already set up for them

[somber sequoia]

I'm drinking indian whisky, watching Red October, and writing some UdonSharp

[night ember]

Man I am snacking on cheezits watching someone bitch over an animation

[somber sequoia]

and I guess this

dammit, now I want cheezits

[crimson pendant]

why are you so passionate about making people do more work unnecessarily

[compact dust]

how dare Diven do this to you

[night ember]

Digitigrade legs should be the least of their concern if they are that new to it

[somber sequoia]

I guess we must be arch enemies now

but no, I like Diven.

[balmy marlin]

Right, I get that much. I can't find the GoGo Loco folder though. Is it because its installed by VRCfury as a prefab?

[night ember]

White cheddar cheezits

[somber sequoia]

....

don't make me regret that statement

[night ember]

Most likely

[crimson pendant]

exactly, even more reason why that process should be easier

[compact dust]

ok so how would i bone this, so that each individual hexagon has its own movement when i apply physbones

[balmy marlin]

RIP how would I display it 😭

[fiery crow]

stright in the center

[night ember]

You do realize you are talking about the equivalent to watered down game development right?

[somber sequoia]

honestly this is going to be kinda crazy

[crimson pendant]

you are talking to a game dev

yes

lmfao

[compact dust]

its 36 hexagons 😔

[night ember]

Not one bit of the process was beginner friendly

[crimson pendant]

so it should always be that, then

[somber sequoia]

So as a guess, one bone per hexagon, each a child of the one larger

[compact dust]

i know i need one in the middle as the main bone, but idk what would give each gon its own movement

[somber sequoia]

not sure how physbones will deal with it though

[night ember]

Or you can just change what you dont like as its clear that people also dont give a shit their leg is naturally not perfectly mirrored

[compact dust]

so one long one down the middle "axel", and the children will have the head there and the tail connected to the hexagon

[fiery crow]

what if it was several to a single bone but all slightly different weights? wouldnt that work as well?

[somber sequoia]

if it works, sure

[compact dust]

cus the physbones are supposed to make it spin but ive no clue how that'd work

[crimson pendant]

I will repeat myself again. Tell that to the other people setting up their avis with the exact same complaint

[somber sequoia]

it could, yup

[compact dust]

idk chat, we'll test the first idea

[night ember]

And tell that to the large portion of the people who also dont give a shit or the ones that didnt even notice because its that much of a nonissue

[fiery crow]

goodluck, that looks like a pain visually to add bones to

[crimson pendant]

ah yes we should not make the process easier for everybody because "people don't give a shit"

[compact dust]

i come up with the worst to execute ideas for the smallest things 😭

[night ember]

Just be a game dev that you claim so smugly you are and change the animation and move on

[crimson pendant]

if nobody noticed, I wouldn't be here

[night ember]

You are acting like its this massive problem that breaks the game

[crimson pendant]

you're acting like fixing this problem goes against your morals

[compact dust]

does it matter if the middle bone is facing up or down

[night ember]

The auto foot placement the game literally has doesnt even show the issue

[fiery crow]

no, the top or bottom orientation would not matter

it can be either

[crimson pendant]

okay whatever it's 2:30 am

[compact dust]

ok cool

[fiery crow]

(i think)

[crimson pendant]

I've ran out of time to give a shit

[night ember]

There is literally no reason other than "I dont like it" to justify wasting time just to change one singular animation that can be changed anyways

[compact dust]

can you hide a selected item with alt h

or smth like that

[somber sequoia]

east coast best coast

[compact dust]

nvm ill just press the eye button

[fiery crow]

H to hide, Alt + H to unhide

[compact dust]

oh

[fiery crow]

u can also add them to bone collections too

[compact dust]

ty, much better

[compact dust]

idk what that means :D

[fiery crow]

for a bit easier organization

[compact dust]

ive only ever made bones for 1 thing

[somber sequoia]

bone collections++

[compact dust]

which was another earring

is there a keybind to make a bone

[somber sequoia]

'e' can extrude a new bone from another bone

[compact dust]

ah k

[spark walrus]

Is it possible to make or upload an avatar from a laptop 💻? not for gaming design but I have VRchat there

[compact dust]

does it matter where the child bone is connected or does it have to be from the tail

[ornate stump]

If it can run unity then sure.

[fiery crow]

yes as long as it can handle unity

[spark walrus]

What is this

[fiery crow]

unity?

[ornate stump]

Game engine editor that require to run vrcsdk.

[spark walrus]

Yes

[balmy barn]

unity 2022 can be a memory hog if you have 4 or 8gb its going to be fun

[somber sequoia]

I regularly work on a laptop

[spark walrus]

What about uploading one? I heard that there is like a place where you can pick an avatar outside the VRchat and u can upload it in there smth like that idk

[balmy barn]

you use unity to upload

[ornate stump]

That's using unity.

[compact dust]

does it matter

i know it would make it the child in the heirarchy is all

[spark walrus]

Did u upload before

[somber sequoia]

child bones always go from their parent bone's tail, if actually connected.

[somber sequoia]

er.. upload what?

[spark walrus]

Aha

[ornate stump]

I believe you're referring to ReadyPlayerMe, which is an app to generate your avatar from your photo.

[somber sequoia]

avatars? yes.

[spark walrus]

Avatar

[fiery crow]

if ur laptop isnt that great, just expect upload times to take a decently long time fyi (for most western avis at least)

[compact dust]

so i'd have 35 bones under the main one 👍

[spark walrus]

I didn't look for it yet, but I think so yes

[spark walrus]

Dam

[spark walrus]

Okee

[ornate stump]

It limited to a single style and lack of customiztions. If that's sufficient for you then sure you can use it.

[spark walrus]

I will try today

Tysm yall

<3.

[radiant tree]

Blender question, how do i copy an arm onto the other arm's bones perfectly? I got taught it once and completely forgot

[somber sequoia]

what's "an arm" in this case?

mesh object?

[radiant tree]

Like a humanoid arm, basic ik rig

[somber sequoia]

right, so in blender, is it a mesh object? or armature?

[radiant tree]

mesh, the original left arm mesh that was meant to mirror the right was completely bitcrushed so i've been trying to fix it

[hazy sphinx]

i started painting and it did this

[radiant tree]

Like i know the basic ways, but it either isn't it's own mesh, or is weighted to the same arm as the opposite

[somber sequoia]

duplicate the mesh, mirror it, attach it to whatever body you have, try to mirror the weight groups

yeah you can probably just rename the weight groups left to right (or whatever), if it's already painted

[radiant tree]

Need it in dumb terms, sorry lol

[somber sequoia]

yeah I can't teach basic blender, sorry

this isn't a "click two buttons and done" kind of thing

[compact dust]

sadly

[hazy sphinx]

is there anything i can use to automaticly weight paint?

[somber sequoia]

nothing that's very good

[radiant tree]

there's one, but is worth a lot of money, works well tho

[somber sequoia]

which?

[hazy sphinx]

is weight painting even nessisary for my model?

[somber sequoia]

if you want it to move with your armature, yes.

[ornate stump]

For every model that's moved by bones.

[hazy sphinx]

can someone paint for me? i dont know, it just wont work

[somber sequoia]

haha

for free? hell no.

[compact dust]

it doesnt matter which direction the child bones here face does it?

[ornate stump]

Have you watch any rigging tutorial?

[somber sequoia]

learn, it's worth it.

[hazy sphinx]

yes

but i dont understand tutorials

[ornate stump]

Then watch more of it.

[hazy sphinx]

wow, you would make a GREAT teacher /s

[somber sequoia]

teachers get paid 🙂

[ornate stump]

Not for free.

[somber sequoia]

I get it, but asking people to teach you for free is kinda a lot.

[hazy sphinx]

i fucking hate our capitalist scociety

[somber sequoia]

answering clear and concise questions? That's easy.

[compact dust]

🥺

[somber sequoia]

bones pivot at the head

so yes

[compact dust]

so tail placement doesnt matter at all

[somber sequoia]

only if you have a connected child bone

otherwise Unity mostly doesn't care

[compact dust]

uhuh

idrk how each thing is supposed to have its own bone if its all connected to the same point

[crimson pendant]

By the way, on this issue, "it'll take 10 minutes" my ass, lmao. Gogoloco is gonna have to be edited as well

meant to reply to what I was talking about before

[somber sequoia]

gogo loco is also a totally optional add-on, so.....

[crimson pendant]

the solution is not to not use gogoloco

that's just silly

but wow wouldn't you know it, an animation being part of the sdk itself means that popular add-ons are also gonna be dependent on said animations

[somber sequoia]

I don't, but you do you

[crimson pendant]

right, it's not necessary with FBT

even though it's still useful with FBT

[compact dust]

stop your yappin you're not asking for help with anythin

[somber sequoia]

the only part I cared about was the flying, and my friend built a version of that that takes up only one parameter, so I use that.

[crimson pendant]

I also use the speed walking and idle toggle

and position locking

and height adjust

[somber sequoia]

height adjust comes from playspacing

but yeah, I can understand the others

[crimson pendant]

gogoloco height adjust goes further faster lol

[somber sequoia]

again, you do you.

[crimson pendant]

that's why I use both

playspace drag is good for fine tuning

but also the animations I'm talking about are only seen in half-body or desktop

[somber sequoia]

yes 🙂

[crimson pendant]

aka the times you'd want to be using gogoloco the most

[somber sequoia]

which I've done I think once in the past year

[crimson pendant]

because you're in FBT every time you get on, that's cool

[somber sequoia]

yep

[crimson pendant]

not everyone does that lol

[somber sequoia]

it's true

[crimson pendant]

and I say that as a SlimeVR seller

cough link in bio cough

[somber sequoia]

I built my own Slimes, I get that 🙂

[crimson pendant]

oh nice, which model?

[somber sequoia]

wait you sell BMI160's? wow.

[crimson pendant]

yeah I'm working on a redesign

been out of stock for a while lol

gonna be swappin to LSM I believe

[somber sequoia]

right answer

[crimson pendant]

mhm mhm

[mental sparrow]

so I have 25.2 hours on VRChat + 13 friends and I still don't have the new user rank is this enough or?

[somber sequoia]

afaik it's not just about time

[timber wharf]

@mental sparrow was it public instances?

[mental sparrow]

yeah i also have friends

[mental sparrow]

yes

[night ember]

User rank isnt related to time at all

Well not inherently since you can get out of nuisance rank by waiting

[mental sparrow]

i have like 13 friends so im tryna get more

[glass geyser]

How would i go about optimizing this i tried deleting some textures i thought wouldnt be necessary it only freed up a few mb

[mental sparrow]

i just followed what the guide said

[glass geyser]

Idk the thing making the size that large and its the only thinf here

[somber sequoia]

can you screenshot the build window so we can see it, instead of taking a pic?

[mental sparrow]

i started a day ago

so i may seem stupid.

[night ember]

Less textures also smaller textures

[somber sequoia]

ah I bet there's a little time involved

[night ember]

Theres a huge difference between 5 512x512 images and 5 1024x1024 images

If I remember math correctly a singular 1024 image is the equivalent to 4 512 images

[timid terrace]

https://youtu.be/0zvNokic-fQ

[glass geyser]

Well i was, literally just now, but literally somehow, when i decided to just import it again since i ssw deleting those didnt do me good. Its now good rating.

I dont know how, guess it just didnt import corrextly first time

[somber sequoia]

that's a photo, but okay

[balmy marlin]

what is this error? selecting does nothing.

[glass geyser]

I was going to get to that, I would but there's a reason. vrc creator companion not only takes up a lot of space but unity is a big drain on my weak ass pcs, so I just use my secondary which is a celeron and my main isn't that much of an upgrade from it, it's a core i3 and slightly better gpu so I just use all it's resources on that one while I still have my main and not use all the resources on here

[night ember]

You are missing parameters that the menu is trying to use

[glass geyser]

but from here on out I'll just provide screenshots, I'll just transfer them

[somber sequoia]

uh..... sure

point being if we can't read your image, it's hard to help

[balmy marlin]

uhh how do I know which parameters its trying to use?

[night ember]

Itd usually tell you

[balmy marlin]

oh I'm stupid

nvm lmao

I missed inputting a thing in the parameters when I was trying to move the subfolder.

[zenith harbor]

anyone know what this error is

[spark walrus]

i cant seem to find the folder

[spark walrus]

someone help, im not sure what the issue is

[still shuttle]

This happens to me when I try to upload with an unstable internet connection, or not enough space on my PC. But it looks like ur main issue is within the sdk
If you already tried reloading the sdk and it didn't work, I'm curious how the avatar was set up. Did it come with an sdk or did you import one for it? This kinda stuff can also happen if you import one sdk ontop of another sdk

[grizzled knoll]

anyone have any tips on how i can lower the size?

[spark walrus]

Can I show you how?

[still shuttle]

Vrcfury blendshape optimizer, that should help a bit, + taking down texture quality. If you have the knowledge you can also bring the fbx into blender and decimate it

[still shuttle]

Can you explain a bit?

[spark walrus]

share my screen

[still shuttle]

I'm not currently available to call atm

[spark walrus]

Whenever you are, I don’t mind waiting

[still shuttle]

I may not be for a while, im currently on a moving trip and will be cramped into a car with 5 other people for another 5-7 hours lol we are in a motel for the night rn

[spark walrus]

Omgggg you enjoy your trip! Don’t worry!

[grizzled knoll]

it's been saying building avatar for quite a bit now...

[upbeat basin]

my booth character has niples on the website but don't have niples on my unity project and in game help lul

[ornate stump]

You have to open psd texture file and enable the hidden layer.

[ornate stump]

The builder might crashed due to error. So check console for errors.

[timid kite]

which physbone setting do i need to adjust so that boobs dont do the crazy jiggle?

[ornate stump]

Depends on how crazy it is. It might not even relate to physbone settings.

[balmy barn]

you can test that in play mode, no bone the same

[gilded raft]

there's a useful video in the pins of avatar dynamics

[timid kite]

true ty

[balmy barn]

most of my avs near the default physbone setting except angle limit + pitch , rotation & radius (posing nearly always off or friends will lock them somewhere )

[bitter spade]

hi im a total noob just taking packages from a site and trying to upload them to vrchat, can someone give me some insight on what these errors mean?

[timid terrace]

Some packages you have imported have errors. When you close and open Unity, what red errors appear ?

[timid terrace]

Do you have multiple version of the SDK in the project ? Are you using VCC ?

[bitter spade]

uhm

yeah im using vcc

i dunno what the former means

[timid terrace]

Did you import any SDK package as .unitypackage ?

Or what packages did you import

[bitter spade]

the character package and a dynamic bones package

[timid terrace]

Ok, so the avatar is pretty old, since we do not use dynamic bones anymore for some time
DId the character package have anything called SDK in it ? Can you show us these

[desert elk]

dynamic bones aren't being used anymore to my knowledge
physbones are used now

[bitter spade]

i c

[timid terrace]

(I suspect the avatar package had an old sdk in it, that's why am I asking for the screenshot)

[bitter spade]

i dont see anything with SDK in the asset list

there is this though

[timid terrace]

Yeah, I am right

[bitter spade]

ah

[timid terrace]

So, make a new project

And do not import the VRCSDK part of the package from the avatar

[bitter spade]

i suppose it is pretty old then haha

[timid terrace]

Should work somehow

[bitter spade]

i remember making something like this way back when before they made it all convenient and stuff

[timid terrace]

Yeah now we don't import the SDK like that, the VCC does it automatically

[bitter spade]

ill give it a go

blehhh

[timid terrace]

You did not import the SDK from the package, but you made a new project and imported newest SDK through VCC right ?

[bitter spade]

um yeah i think so

[timid terrace]

Show us the folders again pls

[bitter spade]

i ticked off all the sdk folders from the character

[timid terrace]

The Pumpkin tools are probably old too

Also what's above dynamic bone folder

[timid terrace]

I'd delete the pumpkin tools folders

[bitter spade]

i gotchu

[timid terrace]

Other than that I don't know. Maybe the dynamic bones folder is also making problems

[bitter spade]

this was it

thanks lol

ill keep that in mind if i upload anything else in the future, thanks for your time & patience ❤️

[timid terrace]

Nice

No problem

[quartz spade]

hi hi everyone, ran into this weird issue where generating a imposter for my avatar fails

weirdly enough my other avatar worked fine, but the other one with a different outfit doesn't

i dont have anything that would suggest why the upload failed, the only thing i got was a ingame notification that told me that the creation of my imposter avatar failed

[misty ridge]

Hi yall anyone knows why I keep getting these errors that wont let me upload my avatar hhh

[somber meadow]

Is there any more errors above

[misty ridge]

Nope

Im pretty sure thats all 🥲

[charred epoch]

Can anyone help me with explaining these errors, i have not done anything to the materials since i last uploaded it and now it is throwing this

[fossil dawn]

is this what the pipeline manager is supposed to look like? when its put in automatically it looks different.

[somber meadow]

Update your Poiyomi version, seems like the one you imported might’ve been a “recommended version” from an avatar, but you can use the latest version

[fossil dawn]

and when i search vrcpipelinemanager it only gives the option for a new script

[somber meadow]

Is this project created with creator companion, and is there any compiler errors in the console

[fossil dawn]

yes its made with the companion, and the console is empty

[somber meadow]

What unity version does it say in the window title of the project

[charred epoch]

About a week and a half ago i went through and updated all the materials to the latest pro version of poiyomi (or at least 9.2.6)

[fossil dawn]

this?

[charred epoch]

And i uploaded it when i did that, and now it is having trouble despite the fact i have not touched any of the materials

[somber meadow]

On the project window itself in Unity, not vcc

[pastel nest]

is there an easy way to find out which layer has write defaults on?

[desert elk]

avatars 3.0 manager

you can add it to a project in creator companion

[pastel nest]

thanks

i have it added just didn't know it does that

[desert elk]

at the top i think it's in vrlabs? something like that

[pastel nest]

no i know where it is just started it 🙂 but i normally used that to mix fx layers and properties never used it for the write defaults didn't know it could do that

[desert elk]

ah i understand now

[pastel nest]

thanks that helped me, missed 1 but i have a complex fx layer setup and thought i have checked them all

[desert elk]

yeah it had a WD section

[pastel nest]

is there a way to trigger a burst emission on particle with fx layer?

[fossil dawn]

just trying stuff while i wait, does this mean anything?

[charred epoch]

So i tried reimporting poiyomi without deleting it, got the message that i can't do that due to it already existing, then uploading works again for some reason

[pastel nest]

i want to be able to "throw something from my hand" what i did was turn on the particle system then the particle just drops even though i have inherit initial velocity

so i was thinking to keep the particle system on and then have some way to trigger it but not sure how to trigger it

[proper depot]

Hello, would anyone have any idea why my radial toggle seems broken? When I click on it, i cant use the radial and then it randomly changes the outfit color?

[balmy barn]

uncheck loop on animation (if its on)

[mossy jacinth]

im gonna try to explain this as well as possible but how do you make a toggle automatically turn off when an animation finishes?

[balmy barn]

use exit time when animation is done disable something

think its just exit time = 1 (play entire animation then exit)

[mossy jacinth]

its not working

[proper depot]

Ty for ur help! I have this radial just with the animation itself, no exit time page at all

[proper depot]

oh its off!

Is my animation for a basic radial wheel toggle wrong?

[mossy jacinth]

Ill figure it out later its not that big of an issue, thanks anyways for trying to help ✨

[compact dust]

ive resorted to asking chatgpt how to make things spin 👍

bro chatgpt is so smart

[austere bay]

a lot of things aren't getting exported to my fbx properly when exporting from blender into unity, some bones aren't parented and materials are missing. Any help would be great <3

I don't really know what other info to include sorry so just ask if you wanna know more specifics :)

[desert elk]

what are your export settings and did you apply transforms before exporting?

that's the only thing that comes to my mind

[austere bay]

nothing different about my export settings but I'll try check if I haven't applied transforms

[desert elk]

and can you explain what you mean by bones not being parented?

cause materials missing are normal and generally you shouldn't rely on them being embedded. It's possible, but doesn't always work

[austere bay]

they're parented in blender and move properly but in unity they're just not parented to anything

[desert elk]

could you send screenshots of what you mean? hierarchy i assume is where the issue is visible

[austere bay]

I fixed it i was being so stupid

idk whats going on with the materials but idrm

[brave viper]

has anyone run into this issue with the visual expressions editor? why am i imploding in the editor preview D:

[amber pivot]

would anyone know how to make radial puppet be at 25% ?
making some dances for an avi but dont want my dances to be at 0 when clicked

[somber sequoia]

set the value in your parameters list to 0.25

[marsh terrace]

hope this is the right place to ask so here goes nothing.
So made a model in 3ds max and saved FBX and used VR CC and unity to set everything up.
Was ready to publish. Apparently I am still considered a visitor even though I have been actively using VR chat for 4 years.
mostly on mobile beta and quest 2. Sometimes PC through steam.
what do I need to do to get a better rank so I can upload the model I spent days on?
any information or suggestions are greatly appreiciated.

[desert elk]

easiest way would be to buy vrc+

and make sure you're logged into the correct account

it needs to be a vrchat account (not oculus or steam)

[marsh terrace]

appreciate it
"it needs to be a vrchat account (not oculus or steam)"
Will try to just login somewhere and set AFK on PC for a few hours and see if that helps.
If that fails I will consider purchasing.
-Thanks again

[desert elk]

afk doesn't count

you need to play the game

explore worlds

add people to your friend list

and stuff

[somber sequoia]

you should probably convert your quest/steam account to a vrchat account

[desert elk]

yeah, if you have one rn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLaSwtWHl2E&t=2s

here's how you do it

[harsh ibex]

can you disable the dynamic foot movement?

[compact dust]

is that the thing that makes the feet move when you walk

[harsh ibex]

not locomotion like the feet moving to stand on a angle

[compact dust]

example?

[desert elk]

if they're on tip toes you probably have the wrong hight set in the menu

and a photo would help

[compact dust]

how does weight painting work :D

[desert elk]

you weight the bones to the armature so it moves with it

[compact dust]

yeah

[desert elk]

you should watch tutorials cause it's a broad topic

[compact dust]

but in this case its completely different

[harsh ibex]

ok so i want the idle to be a floating animation but the problem is vrc try's to force your feet to be on the ground

[compact dust]

i asked chatgpt bc its smarter than me

still dont completely understand what it wants me to do

[desert elk]

is that an earing?

[compact dust]

yes :/

[desert elk]

i would put just one bone there (unless you want it to bend)

[compact dust]

i know i could do one bone but that wouldnt make it work how im imagining

[desert elk]

and weight paint the whole thing to it

[compact dust]

i want the rings to spin around the middle axle

[desert elk]

what do you mean by that?

[compact dust]

this

[desert elk]

ohh

[compact dust]

i know how to do it in unity with physbones

but idk how to setup the bones

[desert elk]

like each ring separately?

[compact dust]

yeppers

i believe the head should be in the direct center, correct?

that'd be the pivot point

rotation, wtv

[desert elk]

idk, i've never done stuff like that

[compact dust]

my brain hurts from too much bone

this is what gpt says but it doesnt make complete sense where the bones should go

like ik what it means but i dont

[desert elk]

i'd assume like this. And you put as many bones as you want the rings to rotate
(i'd assume if you want half to rotate one way, half the other you could get away with using 2/3 bones only)

[void kettle]

how do i just move the view point? ;-;

[desert elk]

put your avi at 0.0.0

and the view point is higher up

you can just use numbers if you waant

you can manually put something closer to 0 to locate easier

[snow goblet]

how could i configure my fallback shaders to keep this dress transparent? i tried setting things myself but obviously misunderstood something!!! 😭

[void kettle]

like this?

[desert elk]

everything should be 0

X, Y and Z

[void kettle]

oh okay even the 1's?

[desert elk]

for the avatar

nope

only the position

[void kettle]

ok!

[neat coral]

Ah i did it but doesnt work ( trying to do drivers)

[compact dust]

black is the main bone, white are the children?

[desert elk]

idk xD i just picked them randomly

i don't know how the physbone set up works

so i can't say where the main bone should be

[compact dust]

would you extrude from the tail of the main or nah

well all the bones should be connected to the middle

so the main would be the "axle"

ig

idk, ill probably just try things until it works

[void kettle]

So if I just put the view point at all zeros it wound go right better the eyes?

[desert elk]

if it's all 0 it's gonna go to the world centre

the ground where your avatar's feet are

[void kettle]

Oh

So it’s fine with how it is? All zeros for the avatar and the other numbers stay for the view point?

[desert elk]

Y is the height of the view point and your avatar in game
Z is how far into the head it goes

you need to position on the view point to be between the eyes

slightly inside the head

[void kettle]

That’s the thing I can’t see the view point or move it 😭

[desert elk]

you could move it by changing the number Y to something closer to 0, so it's in a spot that you can easily find and then you can move it up with the arrow

[void kettle]

It just moves the whole avatar

😭

[desert elk]

are you pressing edit next to the view point numbers?

[void kettle]

Yea

[compact dust]

this earring is gonna make me crash out

[desert elk]

this is what i meant

[last kernel]

i need help with an emote i put on an avatar, Everytime i click it plays right dance to audio but with it being a loop audio and selecting loop it doesn't continue on forever like i'd want it too

[desert elk]

maybe a video will be more helpful

[void kettle]

I still didn’t work 😭😭

[desert elk]

do you have gizmos on?

maybe it's that

[void kettle]

How do I turn gizmos on?

[dusty dove]

anyone expirianced with doing tattoos or so on who willing to help me i will get more specific in dms
like i have the tattoos done and everything but struggeling with em on avatar
or im having issues with rim light and my avatar tattoos idk whats the problem tbf just need help haha

[desert elk]

should be here

[void kettle]

Oooooh!! Tysm!

[desert elk]

did it work?

[void kettle]

Ya!

[desert elk]

awesome

[dusty dove]

dose anyone know how to fix this problem i found rim light settings turning that off fixed it but then the shading of the avatar dissepears

[somber meadow]

use the mask in the rim lighting section of the shader to avoid the tattoos

[dusty dove]

?

[dusty dove]

.

[somber meadow]

are you asking if that's it? Then yes

[dusty dove]

yes sorry

[dusty dove]

i think i have done my tattoos wrong or summing

[carmine flint]

My friend is trying to make a flatlander avatar (A Square!), but for some reason when she gets it into VRChat it's forced upright. Is there a way to force it to stay flat to the ground?

It's made up of several planes and it's weighted to the hip of a humanoid armature.

[balmy barn]

make it in blender, you wont have wierd origin or go flat (lazy way unity ? make a gameobject root)

[wheat escarp]

hey, im trying to import my avatar from unity to a blender but there is a problem there is a error that says ASCII files are not supported how i can fix that?

ive been tryin every tutorial on how to fix that on youtube but 10 tutorials cant help me

[somber meadow]

FBX/Model files are already inside your Unity assets if you obtained the avatar legitimately, you don't need an "FBX exporter" Unity script

[desert elk]

exactly this

just grab the fbx dile

file

[carmine flint]

She made it in blender and exported it to Unity. The model is meant to be flat. The issue is not with the origin point.

She wants the model to stay flat to the ground, but once it's in VRChat it stands upright.

[somber sequoia]

oh wrong person

[carmine flint]

Lol

[somber sequoia]

I've been staring at code all day

[wheat escarp]

welp thats what im trying to do

but this

[desert elk]

how are you doing it?

with the unity exporter?

or just grabbing it from explorer files

you need to do the second one

[junior void]

Dont use some exporter addon. Avatars ARE fbx files

[wheat escarp]

okay then

how do i import it?

[somber sequoia]

file -> import -> import fbx

[wheat escarp]

thats what you want me to do right?

[somber sequoia]

I think I missed what you just did there, I didn't see you open the file menu

[wheat escarp]

thats the same thing

[somber sequoia]

oh I guess drag & drop works?

[wheat escarp]

its shows ascii error again and again whatever am i doin

[wheat escarp]

it works

[somber sequoia]

so if your fbx file is an ascii one, blender won't open that, you'd need to convert it to a binary one

very weird it's ascii though

[carmine flint]

Rewording this

Is there a way to make an avatar stay flat on the ground (parallel with the X axis in Unity)? It looks correct in Unity, but when it's tested in VRChat it's flipped upright to be parallel with the Y axis.

The model is a flat plane weighted to the hip of a humanoid armature. It was modeled in Blender. It is supposed to be flat because it's A Square from Flatland.

[wheat escarp]

after converting it it a binary

welp am i trippin?

[somber sequoia]

that's not a useful message unfortunately

you'd have to read the rest

[wheat escarp]

i know right?

it doesnt shows anything useful

[somber sequoia]

there's no traceback on the next line?

[wheat escarp]

hell nah

[somber sequoia]

never seen that before

[wheat escarp]

same

[somber sequoia]

(you do have to click that to open the console if you're only looking at the status bar)

[wheat escarp]

i dont have to click on that

it should say anything without clicking on it

i had those errors before

[somber sequoia]

okay

[wheat escarp]

i swear im gonna cry

🙏

[brave viper]

taking a shot again
Has anyone seen this happen to them before with Hai's visual expressions editor?

[wheat escarp]

i figured it out

[somber sequoia]

excellent

[wheat escarp]

a whole fbx files was ascii because of this fbx exporter

i had to delete whole avatar assets and add it again

but thanks!!!

[somber sequoia]

oh did it overwrite the file that was in the project? How rude!

[wheat escarp]

idk how but yeah

thanks again

[reef cove]

My SDK is a bit out of date, but I'm quite sure that the "Audio source found on avatar" warning is false. I never added sound to this avatar. How would I search the avatar hierarchy for that component?

[compact dust]

unhide all and it might show you a symbol

like a sound icon

[fair mirage]

im having an issue where the impostor for one of my avatars is completely invisble, any idea how to fix it? its not a huge problem since its rated good for both platforms anyway, but still

nevermind, it mysteriously fixed itself after regenerating for the third time

[reef cove]

I don't see it, but I also don't know the shortcut for "unhide all". I even Googled it and searched on the Unity shortcut page. I don't like Unity

[reef cove]

I think it just sends a requiest to regenerate. The server takes like 5 minutes to generate the new imposter and change it. So you might be seeing the result from the first regeneration now

[compact dust]

i dont think there's a shortcut, but you can press the eye button in the heirarchy

thats the only way i know

[fair mirage]

i mean i generated it 2 times like 2 days ago so its def not that but shrug, doesnt matter

[brave viper]

okay what the hell did I do to get here...

[brave viper]

?

[unreal pasture]

showing u ghow to get out]

[brave viper]

no sorry i'm talking about the abomination in the scene right now

that isn't normal

right?

[unreal pasture]

whatr]

what isnt nornal

[brave viper]

i ran a test in VRC just now and none of the avatar showed

[desert elk]

enforce t pose?

[brave viper]

so i went to check on the animation rig and i saw that...

ah, i had to reset pose before enforcing t pose

that was... weird

[balmy barn]

did you overwrite your fbx and the one in scene is unpacked

[brave viper]

i did overwrite the fbx, it is not unpacked

[balmy barn]

why is it white then

[desert elk]

that's how avatars look in the rig menu I believe

it surprised me once

[balmy barn]

you can reset transforms by doing the generic > humanoid if they are waay different

[brave viper]

i went into the source fbx to investigate

not the one in the scene

[carmine flint]

SOLVED! If anyone is trying to create an avatar that is "flat" it still has to have some depth. Making it just 1-3mm tall is enough to keep the illusion of being a flat plane without VRChat flipping it upright.

[brave viper]

noted, ty!

[brave viper]

that's not how it looks for me usually, apparently Hai's expressions editor renders sample expressions based on how it's rigged in that setting

now that i reset the rigging i look normal now

[desert elk]

I meant the avatar box being white

[brave viper]

o

[desert elk]

that's what unpacked avatars look like

usually in the hierarchy

[brave viper]

my bad 😅

[desert elk]

but if I remember correctly packed ones look like that in that rig menu too

[brave viper]

yeah i believe that's the case as well

[compact dust]

physbones dont have a rotation constraint do they

[unreal pasture]

whjatatatat

what cant it compile help

[dusty dove]

can some one help me with this problem i seem to not be able to fix it its connected with the rim lighting but i cant get it to overlap it or i cant seeme to fix it without dissabeling rim lighting

please and thank you who ever is willing to give me theyre time to help me

[inland pumice]

how do i get a two faced material shader for quest?

name?

or do i need to download something?

[zinc dagger]

how can i fix this

[somber sequoia]

you don't without duplicating and flipping the faces

[west magnet]

I'm having this weird issue, I lowered only a few texture sizes to upload to quest, but when I tried to upload again, it says its 3mb over the limit, I didn't change anything execpt a single image file

[somber sequoia]

your mesh takes up space too - might be a good idea to use a tool like Thry's to look at what's big

[compact dust]

could you change it to an emission and just make it black with no glow?

[dusty dove]

uuh i can try give me a minute

[dusty dove]

i might need help with it

[compact dust]

like this kinda

[forest dawn]

There have been a couple impostor generator hotfixes in the last couple days. I'm glad they fixed your impostor!

[dusty dove]

oh i was using poyomi pro 7.3 on the avatar thats why a lot of things were diffrent

[compact dust]

wowi a human

hi human

im actually going insane from these earrings that i've yet to figure out a fix for

[dusty dove]

if i change to the new version of poi all the shading and everything dissepears

[forest dawn]

There was a brief impostor server outage this morning, it's possible yours was in progress when they went down 🤷

[compact dust]

it might fix it if you copy the component and paste it onto the new poi version, idk tho

[dusty dove]

im so new to this shit holy i have been struggeling for a few hrs now trying to figure this out

[compact dust]

did that help?

[dusty dove]

idk what how to copy the component to new poi
thats what my messege was ment as

[compact dust]

ah ok

[dusty dove]

oh you mean the rim light component

_

?

[compact dust]

you right click the material and press copy material properties

then after changing versions press paste properties

[dusty dove]

uuuh

[somber sequoia]

there's a documented upgrade path, have you looked at this?: https://www.poiyomi.com/general/upgrade/v7-upgrade

[dusty dove]

no i didnt even think about upgrading before

im altering a little bit older avatar so i didnt think of the version of poi at all

i think upgrading is not an option for me im gonna try to get a happy enough fix for the shading thing and then figure out how to make a toggle then if i can do all of that im gonna actualy do it on my avatar bcs rn i have been doing it all on my test upload not the verstion i have actualy uploaded

when actualy changing the texture of the avatar then i managed to fix it but idk i cant seeme to make it work with toggles

this is without rim lighting

all the like shadows dissepear

this is what im trying to acieve basicly

[inland pumice]

how do i flip it and duplicate?

[somber sequoia]

bring it into blender, select faces, duplicate them, flip the normals, re-export back to unity

[fair mirage]

ah that could explain it

though it seems my impostor may have disappeared again? have to double check tomorrow though it's late

[zinc dagger]

why does my emote immedietly stop and go back to its idle pose

like it just starts for like .2 seconds then goes back to its idle frame

[bitter spade]

ive been trying to fix an issue with an avatar where one of the sprites shown during a gesture isnt transparent and its really ugly'

ive tried to get rid of it by just editing out the blush from the texture file entirely but it just comes back despite no longer being a part of the texture (???)

ive been stuck on trying to fix this for the past 2 hours so if anyone knows what i could do please let me know

[bitter spade]

still waiting.. heres an image for better understanding

[round comet]

Gud tutorials for weightpainting?

[round comet]

If this is for mobile its just gonna show as a black block btw

Might as well go into expressions and delete anything with the blush shapekey

[bitter spade]

what does that mean

is there a view for doing that

[clever elbow]

does anyone know if u can get rid of the black areas

[bitter spade]

@round comet

[round comet]

Yeye copy the avi, then drag your fx into the controller of the copy

And edit your facial expressions

Or hypothetically just do the mobile particle shader multiply and have no texture

[bitter spade]

what

❓ ❓ ❓

can u explain it in laymans terms because i cannot follow anything

is it this view?

@round comet

please.. 😭 its 4 am and i really want to get this cleared up

[next cape]

So I'm getting this error, lmk if y'all can see this?

When I go to upload an avatar, it doesn't move and is stuck in the T-Pose because it's a non-humanoid avi and doesn't use VRC's anims

Would there be a in Unity fix to this or do I have to go to Blender?

[feral dagger]

how to activate a trail renderer using menu expressions vrchat avatar

PLS help me

ive been trying to figure that out for 3 CONSECUTIVE days

IM GOING insane

AND GOOGLE WONT HELP

[compact dust]

like a toggle?

i'd assume you could use vrcf, but i might not understand wym

[radiant inlet]

Hi!! I purchased an avatar from a creator. I was able to upload to PC perfectly fine but when I went to upload for quest it says the avatar is too big? 10.11 out of 10

[zenith remnant]

Someone could help me, i don't know why my AV have the feets underground

[spark walrus]

Adjust the hip height for your avatar's FBX in Unity and apply it. Adjust it so the feet are not in the ground

[zenith remnant]

Could you explain me a little more detailed? I'm new on this

[spark walrus]

Yes so basically in Unity there should be an FBX file of your avatar, do you see that?

[zenith remnant]

Yes

I do

[spark walrus]

Ok so click it, and it should take you into a menu. Press Rig and then press Configure. Once youre in that, click the hip bone and adjust the height to where your avatar is no longer in the ground. Once its how you like, Press Apply and press Done. Then reupload

[zenith remnant]

There?

@spark walrus

[spark walrus]

Sure if it looks correct, also you can always go back and adjust it

Id say just try it and if it needs adjustments then you can do those and retry until it is perfect

[zenith remnant]

Thank u so much

[weak knot]

Anyone got some tutorials on a tutoral how how to customize the color scheme of an avatar Because I want to change my avatar to have a different scheme.

[compact dust]

you'd have to change the textures directly using smth like photoshop

so basically open your file explorer and open the texture pngs using a photo editing software to change the colors

[weak knot]

So yo open the open project folder of the model and find the texture png.

[compact dust]

yep

[lapis terrace]

How can I make this look more egirly without changing it's proportions too crazy?

you can draw on it, edit the photo etc

[compact dust]

if you click on a mesh, open the texture and click this,

itll take you to the png

you dont actually have to open the explorer, you could just double click the texture while in unity

[weak knot]

OK

[compact dust]

hair 👍

[weak knot]

Thanks bud

[lapis terrace]

looks alright i guess

i need to make her look more barbie imo

[patent jackal]

Texturing question:
What is a matcap? why would I want to use one? I dont understand the concept specially since its turning my whole texture gray. (I dont know how its used or when its supposed to be used)
I have some clothing and it came with a matcap... Could someone explain in quick simple terms? Please?

[ornate stump]

Matcap stands for material capture. Imagine that you have a sphere, and matcap texture will overlay on a sphere perfectly. It determine uv position from angle of incident from camera. It can be used to overlay to replace surface, or use various blending to blend lighting on surface.

[indigo wing]

How do I go about fixing this so I can upload the avi?

[ornate stump]

Scroll console up and see first few errors.

[indigo wing]

@ornate stump

[patent jackal]

try detaching blueprint ID from pipeline manager script located on root of avatar, in inspector.

[ornate stump]

The "error while saving prefab" is the one.

[ornate stump]

You likely haven't import all the necessary packages.

[ornate stump]

Blueprint ID error is a sideeffect of build failure. You have to look for other error.

[indigo wing]

When I go look at the site where I bought it, it only gives me the package and says you only need vrcfury and poi shaders

[ornate stump]

Is the lolipop a different package of the avatar package?

[indigo wing]

Nope, came in the package

[patent jackal]

did you import poiyomi first, avatar second? (ive had to do that in order for things to settle correctly. )

[ornate stump]

So your avatar included the lollipop?

[indigo wing]

Yep when I uploaded him to unity

[ornate stump]

Ok I think it isn't a literal lollipop.

Do you know what it is?

[indigo wing]

It’s the penis from what I can see

[ornate stump]

Ok. You can delete it from the hierarchy.

[indigo wing]

Would that not delete the lollipop tho?

[ornate stump]

Do you need it?

[indigo wing]

I would like to have it but if that’s what’s stopping it I can take it off

[ornate stump]

Remove it is the easiest.

[spark walrus]

Check if there is a blueprint ID already entered

If there is remove it and try again

[ornate stump]

As I mention earlier "Blueprint ID error is a sideeffect of build failure.".

[indigo wing]

I will go ahead and try it

[compact dust]

pink!

[proven trellis]

someone please help my entire hiearchy was just fucking destroyed all the objects were scattered around the main object holding everything with the avatar descriptor and all of my toggle is gone PLEASE HELP

[compact dust]

ctrl z?

idk 😭

[proven trellis]

no I just opened it it was fine last night but now every time I open it its like this is my avatar fucking donefor?

[compact dust]

is it one you created or one you downloaded

either way you could just put everything back into the correct sections of the heirarchy (i believe)

but im not sure if that would fix everything

[spark walrus]

Try to get the autosave back from the last time you entered playmode

[proven trellis]

that's gone

[spark walrus]

Youd have to search that up because I dont know how to do it I just know you can

[proven trellis]

I looked in temp

oh my god its over

[spark walrus]

No itll be okay

[proven trellis]

Do I need to contact support?

Can they get me my .unitypackage for it?

[spark walrus]

Try asking in the Unity subreddit

Someone more knowledgable might know there

Or the discord server

[proven trellis]

Oh my god

[spark walrus]

??

[proven trellis]

??

[spark walrus]

Why oh my god?

[proven trellis]

because I'm fucking scared??

[spark walrus]

I am reading somewhere it says that if you delete the library it can cause the project to try to restore itself and MAY fix it

Let me look into it more before u do that

Yeah it says it is possible that deleting the /library folder and reloading can help

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's safe, Unity will rebuild it on start

in fact, I need to do that to a project of my own

[proven trellis]

where is the library folder??

oh.

[somber sequoia]

in your project named Library

[spark walrus]

I hope it works. I remember the agony I felt when something like this happened to me..

[somber sequoia]

do this when Unity is NOT open

[proven trellis]

oh my god why is this such a large folder???

[somber sequoia]

cache, compiled stuff, etc, etc.

[proven trellis]

Okay but is this not an issue with my .unity file??

I just dragged it back in to the hiearchy and it was fucked up like this

[spark walrus]

Dragged what back?

[proven trellis]

the scene file

[spark walrus]

Are you certain it was the right scene?

[proven trellis]

yes I only have one

I'm genuinely gonna have to ask support to retrieve the asset bundle for this..

[proven trellis]

okay well this obviously didn't work because it's related to the scene file

I have no backups

I

have to go to support

will they even do this?

[somber sequoia]

I haven't read back to see what your issue is

[spark walrus]

Well id ask in the Unity discord honestly

[proven trellis]

When I opened unity the hiearchy was absolutely fucking destroyed

[spark walrus]

or Reddit

[proven trellis]

How the fuck would they be able to help me with something on vrchats servers

[lapis terrace]

Before and after

[somber sequoia]

your unity project is on your own computer

[proven trellis]

t h a t

n o t t h e p r o j e c t

[somber sequoia]

I assume that's your scene

[proven trellis]

y e s

the object with the avatar descriptor and all of my vrcfury toggles? gone

and several other object had all of their children get thrown around

I have no fucking idea what happened and I am terrified because I don't know if I can recover from this

Where do I even contact support?

[somber sequoia]

I doubt you'll get anything from them without a paid license

[timber wharf]

and thats how people learn to backup

[proven trellis]

They really can't get me the files for MY avatar?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure where you think they would be

[proven trellis]

I've heard I could just download it through vrc.cloud.api

[somber sequoia]

you can't get files from vrchat, and unity of course wouldn't be able to help with that anyway

[proven trellis]

..it's uploaded to the vrc api

they can recieve files from it

[spark walrus]

They won't give it out

[somber sequoia]

and even if you did, the bundle that gets uploaded isn't quite what you'd need to rebuild, it's a lot of work to undo

[timber wharf]

nothing of your source file exists after upload, only jumbled mess that youre not allowed to disassemble, author or not.

[proven trellis]

So my avatar is now permanently fucked and theres nothing I can do about it

great

I'm gonna go kill myself

[somber sequoia]

it's wise to make backups

[nova flicker]

Hiii I need help on an avatar.. :/
So im working on a pre-existing model. and I want to change its default animation (i made it so that the body shrinks under the clothes first. originally it does not shrink.)
I made the reset layer, I made the animation, however, when i go into playmode, its not applying those changes. 🧍‍♂️
got any ideas ?

This is the result im trying to make.

When I go into playmode, it ends up like this.

[timber wharf]

you do use gesture manager or av3emulator right?

[nova flicker]

Yes, I use Gesture Manager

[timber wharf]

then, if youre sure your state is getting played, it means some other lower layer overrides that blendshape

[nova flicker]

hmmm how does one ensure that it doesnt override it? cuz im not really good with animations and blendshapes type stuff.

i use Av3Creator to make my toggles.

[timber wharf]

check through layers and what statete theyre probably in, one of them animates same blendshape

[nova flicker]

yes, some animate the same blendshape. do i ust remove it ?

[timber wharf]

well, if you dont need them to, ye just remove that property from animation

[nova flicker]

kinda need htem to. when i have the shirt enabled, ineed the body to be hidden. 😭

[nova flicker]

lil update, i removed them but when i toggle my jacket & shirt, they dont revert the body back to its original blendshape

😭

[hearty elm]

I stilllll may need help with this, changing bone scale for this rig doesnt seem to be helping-

[onyx sun]

hey can some one help my vrc crerator companion isnt letting me upload it says i dont have perms

[junior void]

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[onyx sun]

yeah it says i dont have enough hours but i have close to 1000

[junior void]

hours does not equal ranking

[onyx sun]

but im trusted

[junior void]

are you sure youre using the same account and not an alt by accident

[onyx sun]

no im on my alt to see what it looks like for questies but im using the right login i believe

[junior void]

what counts is under which account youre trying to upload

the one you use to log in to the sdk panel should be your trusted one

[onyx sun]

OK? that was weird

i was logged into another users acc

not mine

but im publishing it now thank you zero for the help

[livid sonnet]

So I’m trying to upload my model but I get an error saying I don’t have any of the Gogoloco stuff but I do have it

[junior void]

Best would be a screenshot of that

[livid sonnet]

Yeah ik, sorry I just got off and need to sleep, but is this the place I would post and ask the question for that so I can do it tomorrow

[visual dove]

I got question is Toon shader VRC/Moble/Toon Lit?

[still shuttle]

Vrc/mobel/toon lit is typically used for the quest side of an avatar.

Poiomi toon is one of the most popular shaders used for PC avatars, but there's also lil toon which is most commonly used on booth models

[finite pecan]

Any idea which of these scripts work best?

[junior void]

'work best'?

[still shuttle]

Depends on what you're trying to do with the avatar?

[finite pecan]

Just trying to get it to build

[still shuttle]

You only need an avatar descriptior and a blueprint ID for it to build properly

[junior void]

If this is an avatar you bought, and these were there to begin with then you likely missed to install dependencies/extra scripts the avatar needs

this is often stuff like vrcfury or modular avatar and should be in the description or readme file if you have one

[still shuttle]

Yeah that too, if u purchased it and it's not an avi you're making yourself, definitely double check the instructions it comes with. Typically avatars you purchase come with a read me file that tell you what you need and how to upload

[finite pecan]

This I got from vr models, when I tried to upload I guess I needed latest poiyomi shaders of 9.0 and I didn't have that. Modular gave me many unrecognised errors so removed that and then deleted the mono scripts and it uploaded.

[junior void]

i hope you know that vrmodels is a piracy website

[finite pecan]

Ah, I'll keep that in mind.

What should I use instead?

[worn kiln]

also include virus which is more bad...

[junior void]

gumroad, jinxxy, booth - if an avatar is "for free" it IS too good to be true in 99% of cases

[worn kiln]

yeah, they are well moderated.

[still shuttle]

Oof yeah vrmodels is poopoo I dont recommend you use it. It takes payed avatars and gives them out for free without the knowledge or consent of the original creator. And the files could be altered to contain harmful content, like viruses. I've heard stories of ppl having to get new pcs cuz they downloaded avis from that website

[finite pecan]

I had a whole list of sites but dunno how to tell which are good or not. I guess I'd find out when my pc no work 😨

[still shuttle]

Jinxxy.com, booth.pm, gumroad, and payhip are the most commonly used sites for selling and buying avatars

[worn kiln]

[finite pecan]

Thanks guys

[still shuttle]

[finite pecan]

I guess the safest way may also to just make them myself, I think one day I'll get to that point.

[still shuttle]

Yeah that's also a good idea but it really takes dedication and time to learn and work through everything. I've been making avatars for a little over 2 years, maybe 3 and the first avatar I ever tried to make didn't even get into the game

I've taught people and a LOT of them see the process and give up

[junior void]

same here, i took 2 years to make one avatar

[weary verge]

But the avatar there are not like you should make your personal avatar from scratch

[finite pecan]

I had a friend that had like 15 years experience and one day her pc caught fire, but I usually just edit materials or shaders and stuff.

[still shuttle]

There are a bunch of amazing options from those websites I listed, especially for ppl who don't know how to make stuff!

[still shuttle]

Oh my god that sounds terrible

[weary verge]

Yeah definitely but I've tried series if times not until I made mine from and artist

[junior void]

personally i started just like that, making smaller edits until i bumped into an asset that required blender work so i had no choice. then i was hooked and got greedy, wanted more faster better and so on, now look at me xD

[weary verge]

I got someone that makes avatar for me even on fiverr and hes in discord here aswell and he's works are very nice

[finite pecan]

fivver?

[still shuttle]

Making stuff from SCRATCH is so hard, I've made hair and clothing assets before, but I mainly kitbash my avatars. I'm pretty good at rigging tho, I can take roblox avis with no rig and put em into blender and rig em for vrchat easy

Don't go through fivver omg

[weary verge]

Yes

[still shuttle]

It is riddled with scammers

[weary verge]

Who?

[still shuttle]

I don't trust anyone selling from fivver like ever

[weary verge]

Why did you said that ?

[finite pecan]

I tried x before twitter changed to it, bad idea cause of the cons. Now I see them on tiktok.

[junior void]

a low key recommendation like this sounds like youre using an alt to recommend yourself basically, trying to get clients like this (whether the service is legit or not is not the point here)

[still shuttle]

Fivver is a website very commonly used by scammers, that's why

[weary verge]

The artist you use right?

[worn kiln]

?tag scam

[flat musk]

Hey ho 👋 I see you're looking for commissions.

You will probably receive DM's or friend requests from scammers now (or later) that will try to offer you their services. 😖

🚫 Absolutely DO NOT engage with those, regardless of how competent they might seem or their excuse to why they contact you.
This is unsafe practice used by scammers, and also breaks this Discord's rules. 👮

If you seek a creator, check out VRCTraders and follow their protocols strictly 🥺

🌠 It's extremely important to always DEEPLY investigate the account and social media of the person you plan to commission.
Is their social media linked in Discord? Is it legitimate? Are the references stolen? (Try to reverse image search posts to check.) 👀
The quality of fake profiles out there can be crazy good, be aware of that and NEVER engage with DM or friend requests that originate from the artist.

When in the slightest doubt, do not commission them and contact the moderators of the involved communities. 😱

[worn kiln]

just note

[finite pecan]

Yeah a few that reached out to me to pay them to make them.

[weary verge]

Yeah I got scammed once but ever since I started using this one artist honestly he's so amazing

[junior void]

is there a bot command list somewhere that ive missed so far?

[worn kiln]

For public, mainly only ?upload I bet

[still shuttle]

I still, personally, would never trust anyone using fivver

[finite pecan]

Did I skip that from somewhere, I'm just now seeing it.

[weary verge]

Okay

[weary verge]

Okay maybe that your own lucky cause the one artist I be using now is so super cute and super deligent with it

[still shuttle]

From everything I've seen and witnessed, if someone uses fivver, 9 times out of 10 they are gonna be a scammer. I don't commission people tho, so I've never been scammed.

[finite pecan]

I was given like obj files and stuff not sure what I was supposed to do with them lol