avatar-help

[stiff geode]

I have a model that I want to use physbones on but the bones arent moving?

[ornate stump]

Are you making a world? Physbone doesn't work in world project.

[stiff geode]

Yes, that sucks. :(

[violet cobalt]

Having a lighting issue with my avatar and not sure what the problem is. The body and outfit are using Poiyomi but the hair is using Liltoon. Dunno if that has any impact on how the shading works

[night ember]

I mean they are literally different shaders

[ornate stump]

Using different shader won't going to have same lighting.

[violet cobalt]

I mean yeah fair but I didn't expect it to have this kind of effect

[violet cobalt]

So I should try to get a hair that uses Poiyomi or is this just a Poiyomi issue?

Because i feel like this is way too dark even if it's just how it's supposed to look

[ornate stump]

Different shader use different formular to calculate light. Fundamentally just have to use same shader to have matching shading.

[violet cobalt]

I kinda get it? But again the body also uses Poiyomi and it seems just fine

[stiff geode]

Is there any way to make the bones poseable without stretching using other default components? I've tried using constraints and hinges but neither of them do what I'd like.

[ornate stump]

You haven't actually point out what was wrong though.

[ornate stump]

If you're creating world, you should continue asking in #world-development

[violet cobalt]

The clothing is too dark

mb forgot to mention it

[ornate stump]

Then see "Min Brightness"(or what semilar property) to increase brightness.

[violet cobalt]

where's that under?

[ornate stump]

Light Data

There's also search function in poiyomi.

[violet cobalt]

ah cool thanks I'll check that out

[gritty anchor]

does anyone know how to fix the chatbox being super lower/in the head on certain avis? it's not something thats fixable by hiding/showing or block/unblock, and it fixes on other avis. i tried making the bounding box bigger but it didnt seem to help

[iron kindle]

Discord work your magic

I am attempting to make a slider that makes it so the chest has a supported and unsupported mode, I have the proper blend shapes but when I test it using gesture manager only the clothes change and the body has no effect

[deft prism]

hey, I'm having an issue where the float parameter for my radial puppet isn't appearing in the expressions menu.

I've tried everything to make it appear but it just... doesn't

[ornate stump]

Did you add parameter to the expression parameter file?

[deft prism]

yes

I've REMADE the unity project 4 times

[ornate stump]

There is a dropdown on the menu file where you have to select the correct avatar, and make sure that you assign the correct expression parameter file to the avatar.

[ornate stump]

Then also be aware that you shouldn't set parameter in both parameter and rotation for radial puppet.

[deft prism]

oh'

yep, that fixed it

[arctic dagger]

hello gamers! i have this lil deer avatar im working on, how do you think i should go about doing fingers?

[solemn hound]

i can't find this option

[rustic apex]

tried to go on the reddit for help but i cant post there so im asking here lol how does one fix this? i’d look it up but i have no clue what to look up for this. the hand constantly opens and replays some fingery animation and then does what i want it to do so how does one just make it so it does what i want it to do instantly

[junior void]

check the animations used for the hands

[rustic apex]

that doesn’t help

[junior void]

Explain why not and i can make it more clear

But i wont give you a full blown tutorial only for you to say "i already did that"

[rustic apex]

i guarantee i haven’t tried it cause idk what the hell im doin lmao it has somethin to do with fake index i know that now

[balmy barn]

my guess it goes back to some base animation before doing next instead of going to whatever its ment to (not using any state?)

cant tell without seeing controller

[junior void]

yea

so are you not sure where/how to find your animations and controllers?

[rustic apex]

that was my issue and i found them right after i said “that didnt help” lol so now im here and donno what to do

could i just delete fake index? cause i know that’s the issue but idk if i were to delete it my gestures would just be gone completely

iiiiiiiiiii think this is where im suposed to be

[rustic apex]

i think thats whats goin on

[swift kayak]

everything was working fine, until i tried to add a throwjoint through the avatar3.0 maker, im quite new in making avatars and now I can't play it or upload a test because I have compiler errors and I don't understand what to do, could someone please help me?

[balmy barn]

missing scripts , read error find where add what it requires (seems very old since those might be dynbones)

[vernal pecan]

How do i temporarily disable blinking (to optionally override it with my own emotion animation)

so blinking blendshapes could not add to each other

oh.. i just have to use animation tracking control... sorry for bother

[swift kayak]

i just deleted the crayons entirely from the avi, but i still can't build it...

now it's telling me that the phys bones were destroyed, but they're still there??

could someone please help me? I have no idea what I did and now I don't know what to do :c

[ornate stump]

Have you removed all the missing script component?

[swift kayak]

i removed everything from the avatar, thinking it would fix it, but it didnt

idk what's the missing script component, idk what's missing, I saw some random empty scripts and i deleted them?

[swift kayak]

the reason was because i somehow deleted vrcfury... idk how i even managed that

[shut spear]

how does someone make a avatar pc vr comp?

[undone fable]

If I want to make the walk animation more individualized from the original VRChat one.
Where do I put my walk cycle?

I see the locomotion has a tree with different vector x and z parameters. But all those animations inside only have 1 frame instead of the entire walk cycle

[prisma thunder]

I turn off gestures because with gestures my hands look like I'm constantly trying to karate chop someone. Is there any way to keep the gestureless hands, But still have my gestures control my face?

[undone fable]

FX Layercontrols Face
Gesture Layer Controls Hands

[spark walrus]

There's a list of bones required for hands to work in vr chat

[vernal pecan]

whats the condition from any_state to idle2 ?

[rustic apex]

idk for i am no longer on my puter but i shall let you know whenever im back on lol

if i know how to check

[vernal pecan]

select a white arrow

and in the right pane youll see condition

[rustic apex]

oki doke i shall check whenever im back on it

[vernal pecan]

you must figure out witch animation is triggered repeatedly, by playing and watching the block scheme

you can do it by activating gray "auto live link" button in animatior's right upper corner

then you must keep animator window opened and select your avatar

you'll see how animation proceeds through the scheme, it will be a color line moving from state to state

most likely you have some condition, that works all the time no matter what, and it is in high priority among others, first suspect is idle state

[chilly summit]

Need help. I have an avatar that's both pc/quest, and pc version is fine, but for people on quest the avatar clothes keeps changing and stuff. How to fix?

[desert elk]

most likely some toggles are broken for quest

that's my guess

[somber sequoia]

Not sure how you want that to move, but I'd probably just use the first finger bone on each of those and see how well it moves. maybe two, use the first as a sort of knuckle and the second for the main rigid part of the "finger". It'll probably work pretty well though, it's a nice model

[somber sequoia]

use exactly the same avatar parameters file for both versions

[chilly summit]

I did though I believe, but I will check

[somber sequoia]

if you have an on-upload hook like VRC Fury this may mess with those

[tall dock]

Anyone here that knows about spider/multi-legged locomotion i would apprecciate some input on this (flying legs)

[somber sequoia]

there's a whole discord for such things if you want, "limbs" is the invite code

[tall dock]

Oh dang, thank you thank you!

[somber sequoia]

dm me if you can't find it, I'll give you an actual link

[tall dock]

virtual limbs it's called?

[somber sequoia]

that's the one

[tall dock]

ty a lot

[static sparrow]

how do i stop certain things on an avi from showing in the preview in game?cuz its off in unity and isnt defaulted to on but still shows

[desert elk]

if it's off in unity it should be off in game i think

did you turn it off in unity by the tick box or the eye in the hierarchy?

[prisma thunder]

in english please

but uh

[undone fable]

Gestureless hands are hands that won’t move when you move your fingers correct. Like a Lego hand?

[lucid rapids]

why it looks like this

[undone fable]

Send a picture of your avatar descriptor animation layers

[prisma thunder]

This?

[desert elk]

id assume weight painting issues

[lucid rapids]

can u tell me how to fix it or a video ?

[undone fable]

Yes.
FX has layers inside for "gestures hand" and "gestures left", but they are not supposed to use your hand bones in that layer
Gesture is where you animate the bones for making your hands do things

You said you want to press both triguers to make your face do a certain action. This input is read by both gesture and FX
FX makes your face do what you described, and gesture will pose your hands.

If you want to change how your hands look, change the animation in the gesture layer

[desert elk]

in blender, i'd check the arm bones if they're weight painted fully

cause from what i'm seeing it looks like not everything goes to the arm like it should

[undone fable]

put avatar in blender
go in pose mode
find the bone that moves something it shouldnt move
Subtract it in weight paint mode of the mesh that contain that vertex data with the same name of the bone you found

[desert elk]

yeah that

[lucid rapids]

okok tyy all

[flat canopy]

Hey I'm trying to weight paint my avatars clothes. My shoulder bones seem to not be working on any piece of clothing (no colouring nad it should bea a redish colour) Did somebody have this issue before?

[rustic apex]

idk what answer you needed for this so.. here lol

[somber sequoia]

make sure you have an armature modifier on the clothing mesh

[rustic apex]

im pretty sure its the “open” gesture cause it looks identical to what happens before it decides to do what it needs to do

sorry for interrupting y’all

[flat canopy]

i did the data transfer like usual and it does it for every other bone except the shoulders 😮

[somber sequoia]

well regardless of how you got there, it seems you'll have to do some painting

[flat canopy]

i guess lol thanks

[somber sequoia]

Also if you haven't tried it, the blender plugin "Robust Weight Transfer" works better than anything built-in

[sharp nebula]

I have a bat that im trying to put on my avatar and it installs using VRCfury but the toggle for it dosent work

[frosty jacinth]

Still struggling with this issue; my avatar mouth is open when I'm in the FBX rig configuration + when the avatar is being animated. I removed everything except the avatar and avatar descriptor, having cleared everything non-essential in the descriptor, so it's an FBX problem. Anybody knows what causes this and if there's any fixes? The jaw bone needs to be set on the FBX, so that's not an option.

[junior void]

Jaw open may be the rest position which you can change in blender

[somber sequoia]

you actually use the jaw bone for something?

[spark walrus]

I click the dropper to set a source and it says

[spark walrus]

This

[left arrow]

Hey guys, can someone help me with animator play audio? I have no idea how to make it work on my avatar, and i didn't find any instructions how to set it up.
I add an audio source, animator play audio behaviour, few .ogg audio files, set an animation but it didn't work :\

[somber meadow]

what are you intending to do with it? Can you screenshot your animator states and your play audio behavior/s

[left arrow]

yea

[somber meadow]

you don't have an audiosource set

[left arrow]

i do, it's a root

i tried to do it with any other object in hierarchy, but it ends with same result

[somber meadow]

"Source Path" needs to be at least populated with something

and how're you testing it?

[left arrow]

ok, i add a new empty object in the root with a audio source.
I testing it in a playmode, using Avatars 3.0 Emulator

[balmy barn]

doesnt work with any emulator , last time i tested it does nothing

[somber meadow]

Gesture Manager has support for it

I don't keep up with 3.0 emulator however

[left arrow]

huh, then it might be working, i'll try gesture manager to test it!

[balmy barn]

not sure it was random that didnt work or other one , but its been awhile might as well test it again

[left arrow]

i tried every playback orders, but it didn't help. gonna try a gesture manager, and see if it changes anything

[balmy barn]

av3 still dont work, gesture does

tested

[somber sequoia]

You can just type in that box too - anything that's a possible option will show up. What are you trying to transfer btw?

[spark walrus]

i figured it out lol

i only have one armature now instead of 7

[somber sequoia]

well that's a good thing

[spark walrus]

im making progress

[spark walrus]

oof

[desert elk]

delet eye from jaw

[somber meadow]

that's just a common mistake from the Unity Automapper, you can just click the LeftEye in the jaw slot and press the delete key on your keyboard

[desert elk]

My friend's trying to upload an avatar I made for him, but it doesn't look correct. The inspector and ask look weird. Whenever he tries to upload it, it uploads but says "not suported on this platform"

like, the sdk window is missing most things

idk what happened

[somber meadow]

The descriptor doesn't look weird, the categories are just collapsed

[frosty jacinth]

I set the rest position in Blender. Everything look fine in Blender until I import it into Unity.

[frosty jacinth]

Face tracking, the animations for the particular prefab I'm using uses the face muscles

[somber sequoia]

huh, fascinating.

[desert elk]

(ignore this i'm blind) normally i don't see the colliders section, that's what i was referring to, and sdk is still missing the points/categories, and avatar doesn't upload properly

[somber meadow]

By "not supported on this platform", are they playing on Quest?

[desert elk]

both

pc and quest say the same thing

but avatar is uploaded

which is why i'm confused

so i was wandering if anyone ever experienced that

this is what i'm seeing for the same avi on my pc

no idea why it's not working for him

[somber meadow]

that's because you have all validations shown in the SDK settings even if they're not bad performance

What Unity version are they using

[desert elk]

2022.3.22

[desert elk]

that's the only difference between his project and mine, so i figured that could be the issue

[spark walrus]

how come theres nothing showing for material for head

[arctic ginkgo]

that's your head bone, not your head mesh

[spark walrus]

o

how do i mesh

my body and head are one mesh

[junior void]

Then itll be on the body

[spark walrus]

But if I put the texture on body it spreads across the whole skin

Not the face

[junior void]

Your body likely has more than one material slot

Take a screenshot?

[frosty jacinth]

Select your body mesh and you'll be able to see what materials the mesh uses

[junior void]

^ click your avatar twice so it has an orange outline

[junior void]

See, 3 materials

[white sparrow]

is it possible to use some sort of "or" condition? like x activates if conditions 1, 2, or 3 are met?

[junior void]

One is likely for the head

[spark walrus]

o

thanks

[frosty jacinth]

Use multiple transitions

[spark walrus]

stuck in t pose

[junior void]

Check if the rig is set humanoid

[vernal pecan]

I have an odd glitch, i have a blend tree, 5 animations with blendshapes in it.. and one in the bottom isnt enabling blendshapes to 100%, only about 5-10%

[spark walrus]

i didnt put psybones

do i need psybones

[desert elk]

no

they're not necessary

they're there to make your avi's parts movable or interactable (aka hair, or tail)

[desert elk]

is the animation set to 100?

[vernal pecan]

i have another blendree controlled by the same parameters, and it works fine, i tried to delet and recreate blendtree, and change animations places in it - and always down doesnt work

[spark walrus]

ummmm

[vernal pecan]

do you mean blendshape? yes from 0 to 100 between animations on center and on bottom

[desert elk]

yes, that's what i meant

[vernal pecan]

as all other blendshapes - on top, left, right etc.

[spark walrus]

i think its broken

[vernal pecan]

i just change animations from top to bottom and vice versa and other one stops to work just because it's in bottom

i tried to set coordinate Y to -0.1 in hope it needs some further move, but it doesn't help

oh.. it's just got fixed O_o after about an hour of struggling

[spark walrus]

What about mine

[tiny fog]

what version of unity to make avatar? Just in case I forgot.

[desert elk]

vrc website says 2022.3.22f1

[white jungle]

working on a hoodie for a avatar that has a blendshape to put the hood up or down. how should I handle the weight painting? While down I don't want it to be weight painted to the head, but when up it shouldn't be weight painted to the chest :_: Thought about making separate bones and use rotation constraint to copy the relevent movements while toggling off the unwanted one - but wondering if there's a simpler method

[arctic ginkgo]

that is the most simple method imo

work very well

[spark walrus]

Please help

[desert elk]

did you select humanoid as your rig?

[spark walrus]

yes and it's

[spark walrus]

Head not good

[desert elk]

do this

delete the eye bone from the jaw

[spark walrus]

its good now

shes isnt tposing anywher but she still has a siezure if u try to walk

[desert elk]

I'd assume something went wrong when you combined all of your armatures

that's my guess

[spark walrus]

i used cats

[left gull]

it looks like improper setup of phybones

also how's the hair attached cause it doesnt look like it follows the head?

[spark walrus]

all the physbones are like this

[desert elk]

and how did you do that? With this menu?

[spark walrus]

yes

i clicked merge armatures

[desert elk]

okay

then that should be fine

[left gull]

what bone are is the phybones on? seems like the hips/spine have the script on them with no specifc bone to exclude/aim for

[spark walrus]

i just left it default

[desert elk]

what bone did you put the script on?

[spark walrus]

all of them

[desert elk]

all?

no

[spark walrus]

oof

[desert elk]

only the ones you need

watch a physbone tutorial

[spark walrus]

i put it on tail, spine, butt, chest, legs, shoulders and neck

[desert elk]

noo

too much

spine, chest, legs, shoulders and neck, shouldn't have physbones

[spark walrus]

o

[left gull]

with phybones unless you exclude the child bones of those parent ones (neck shoulders legs etc) then they'll also be effected

likely the reason your models moving all weird

[desert elk]

mhm

[spark walrus]

so do i even need physbones at all

[desert elk]

i told you already

[left gull]

if you want certain parts to have movement then yes you'd need phybones

you just have to actually edit the settings properly

[desert elk]

mhm, exactly what i told you

[desert elk]

right here

[spark walrus]

i just want to walk and jump and do normal stuff

[desert elk]

that's not what physbones are for

watch a tutorial

don't add things to you avatar if you don't know what they do

[spark walrus]

the tutorial said to add it

[desert elk]

ofc it did, but it probably talked about hair

or animal ears

and ofc if you search up "physbone tutorial" it will tell you to add it

[spark walrus]

what then why is she stuck in tpose

[desert elk]

what's this?

[spark walrus]

\

[left gull]

none of whats in that screenshot shows anything about phybones

[desert elk]

mhm

[desert elk]

she also says nothing about adding them to spine and arms

[spark walrus]

well she is walking normal now the only issue now is the hair

[desert elk]

most likely physbones

[white jungle]

Is there a handy way to reset rotation when deactivating the rotation constraint? Looks like it freezes w/ current rotations when deactivated

[desert elk]

does she look normal when you stand still?

you must not have a collider in the head

if it only does that when walking

[left gull]

might also be a case of being parented to the neck bone rather then the head if it isnt the phybones

[spark walrus]

yes

[desert elk]

i'd add a collider to the physbone

[spark walrus]

i removed the physbones

[desert elk]

so this is without physbones?

[spark walrus]

yes

[desert elk]

then as Lilpimpen said, check what the hair is parented to

cats by default parents to hips, so if you didn't change that it could be an issue

[spark walrus]

is root supposed to be in head

[desert elk]

show the whole armature

not a snipet like that

[spark walrus]

the hair works now

[desert elk]

what was the problem?

[spark walrus]

i moved the root into the head

now just the horns and hairclip

i see the tail and the horns are somehow connected

[desert elk]

wait, you unpacked the prefab? just so you know, you may have issues due do that later on

[spark walrus]

rip

I just yeeted the tail and horns

[desert elk]

?

[leaden ice]

eliot the struggle is real

currently using cats plug-in for blender and when combining same materials it just deletes clothing all together

also downgraded blender ver. to 2.6.3 to get cats working

[arctic ginkgo]

i would just set the global weight to 0 before disabling the contraint

is there a reason you need to disable the constraint?

[quasi briar]

That's not what cats is for. It doesn't atlas materials as far as I know. It literally deletes materials that are very similar and merges it to one. Also, cats in general is not really necessary, I do not use it.

[desert elk]

you should use cats unofficla

[desert elk]

yes, cats doesn't have a merge materials funtion

it deleted materials that are similar

[quasi briar]

Downgrading blender just to use cats is just a bad idea in general

[desert elk]

exactly

[leaden ice]

alrighty then

sigh

[balmy barn]

https://github.com/teamneoneko/Cats-Blender-Plugin-Unofficial- blender 3.6+++

[leaden ice]

so much fucking around for nothing ig

[quasi briar]

It sucks because so many videos say to use cats. But it's not really that good (nowadays)

[desert elk]

this

unofficial has bug fixes and it actually being updated

offical sucks

[leaden ice]

right

i ended up doing what u recommended and made separate projects for quest and pc

so i got the assets working

but my material and triangles count is too big for quest

[desert elk]

you can merge materials in blender with https://github.com/Grim-es/material-combiner-addon?tab=readme-ov-file (it is works, ofc, apparetly there are issues, but i've never had any)
triangles you can bake your avatar in blender with https://github.com/feilen/tuxedo-blender-plugin?tab=readme-ov-file
both of those warnings won't prevent you from uploading your avatar, it will just be very poor quality for quest

[leaden ice]

i managed to upload but security checks failed again

[leaden ice]

ty

[white jungle]

Yep that's what I ended up doing 🙂 0 weight effectively 'disables' the function so no need to also disable the constraint - unless there's a performance gain to be had.

[left gull]

if its failing security checks your model may be outside of the stat limits listed here:https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system/

[leaden ice]

so should i use blender 4.2 with unofficial cats and those plug-ins u suggested?

[leaden ice]

been looking for this, tyty

[desert elk]

i use blender 4.2 and I had no issues so far

[leaden ice]

okay i'll give it a shot

[desert elk]

so I'd say go for it

[arctic ginkgo]

if you set the weight to 0 before disabling it then you ensure it goes back to it's default position, but it really depends on your needs

[tepid sage]

Anyone know how to access this feature here? I’m new to unity

[desert elk]

you need to add control, most likely

what are you trying to do?

[tepid sage]

Make a toggle

[desert elk]

yeah, add control

[tepid sage]

The photo was screenshoted from a video, I just want to know how to get the the "Main Menu"

[desert elk]

AAA

right click in the assets

create > vrchat > avatars > expressions menu

you'll most likely also need parameters to you can make those too

[tepid sage]

Got it

[tepid sage]

Also do you know where I could find the name of the parameter that I need to input the parameter thingy?

[desert elk]

you make it youself when you make the animation

it needs to be the same name in the fx and in parameters

[mossy jacinth]

hey friends quick question: how do you make audios hearable to other players? i know about quest limits, shields and audio settings but even with those sorted the sound still cant be heard by other people

for context im creating a functional revolver for my avatar

[white jungle]

Just so you're aware, these are the default parameters - if you happened to try and make one with the same name as a default you'd likely have problems 🙂 https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/

[vestal haven]

Does anyone know if the Additive Playable Layer works for bones that are tracking? Such as arm recoil for gun firing?

I really dont wanna resort to using constraints and duplicate armatures for this kind of functionality, does anyone know if additive layers do what I want to use them for?

[near zenith]

so i finished my avatar and i wanted to upload to quest but it says it to large by 3.06 mb, how do i fix that?

[mossy jacinth]

compress

audio files tend to take up the most space

iirc

[white jungle]

that's how it is supposed to work - for example that's where we'd add a breathing animation loop that plays while the player is moving around. Do need to be careful as the transforms are indeed 'additive' - they will be added to the player's tracked movements which can cause some wonky results. Also be aware you're only supposed to make armature transforms here, not playing blends etc

[vestal haven]

thats the intention! I'm testing with a rather crude animation to see if tracking doesnt override these transforms

[near zenith]

compress the audio files?

[white jungle]

do you have a PC and Quest version? If so switch the build target back to PC, make a 'test build' of the quest version, then switch the target back to Quest. this updates the 'build size' in Unity.

this assuming the quest version is not actually oversized - I run into this alot in a project where I have PC and Quest in the same scene and just change build targets to upload

[mossy jacinth]

compress everything

[near zenith]

how would i do that-

[mossy jacinth]

resize images, remove polygons, decrease audio quality

[vestal haven]

it is as I feared, tracking does override any additive layer animation

I tested it with this to see if it could twist my whole body and...well the results speak for themselves...

[desert elk]

Nope, go to VRC Traders

link in #1204490664637890580

[vestal haven]

the only way, as far as I know, to do this effect while still maintaining tracking is to constrain the model to a duplicate armature, then rotate a parent of the constrained bones

[white jungle]

disable tracking on the head and hands during the animation. Make a empty state on the base layer (i think) that uses "VRC animator Tracking Control' to change tracking to 'animated', then another state changing it back to 'tracking'

[vestal haven]

for what I want to do, it is essential that tracking isnt turned off

[slender basin]

Says the link is expired

[white jungle]

painting yourself into a corner then, cant have it both ways as far as I know.

[vestal haven]

with this you can! its just a PAIN to setup

[desert elk]

you will need to Google for it yourself

[vestal haven]

thanks to this handy lil feature we got!

[white jungle]

absolutely, meant theres not really any other option

[slender basin]

Dam

[desert elk]

search VRC Traders discord

it'll be the first on google

[slender basin]

I did, it still says the link is expired

[mellow drum]

So, I have a feeling for what I want for a model I am going to need to make it myself but im not sure what would be best for me to do since I dont have any money to spend on this. Notably the two main things is that the model is going to be much more stout and physically built(Think someone like Vander, or something. Lots of mass that is just hard to move) and I am going to need to add toggles for things like shields and stuff. Is there anything I should aim for or to avoid for these? Or any specific programs that would be easier or harder for this?

[desert elk]

can't help then, it works for me

[slender basin]

Dam

[mellow drum]

Maybe check the Reddit

[desert elk]

Blender's the most popular one to make your avatar in

Toggles are made in Unity

I'd recommend keeping the shields and stuff you wanna toggle separate meshes as it'll be easier to toggle that way

[civic bone]

hi im new to the unity stuff and im working on an avatar but idk what im even doing lol i have the avatar but im getting some errors can anyone voice chat and help if possible

[ornate stump]

You should post the error here. Most errors can be solved without going for vc.

[civic bone]

ok

do u want the specific error when clicked on or just the base error when its not clicked

[ornate stump]

Anything you observed.

[civic bone]

thats the first one

[ornate stump]

You likely didn't import all the package required by the avatar.

[civic bone]

ok

i wish someone could do this for me XD

cuz ive never done any of this and its so overwhelming

[ornate stump]

You should just read the instruction in avatar page to see what package needed to be imported.

[civic bone]

gotta find it again

welp that was fast XD

[spark walrus]

@round comet

[round comet]

That seems like an issue with the hair being attached to the armature

Where is it connected? The head or the spine?

[spark walrus]

it's by itself or it was but im away from my pc at the moment

[round comet]

Yeah, looks all sorts of busted

The hair needs to be attached to the head bone in one way or another

[round comet]

Oh? The hair is under the spine it seems

That’s why it isn’t working right

[spark walrus]

oh okay

[round comet]

The bones need to be under the head section

[spark walrus]

But as soon as I removed physbones my avi works fine besides the hair

[round comet]

So odd

Yeah, just make sure its attached to the right area. Hair for head bone

[spark walrus]

Like right now the hair follows my head just fine it's just not animated

[round comet]

Would still fix it most def

[spark walrus]

But i have 0 physbones

[round comet]

Nono I mean, getting the hair bones in the correct area

[spark walrus]

Also fixing the jaw bone helped

[round comet]

That’s good

[spark walrus]

My left eye was in my jaw

[round comet]

Yeye you don’t need a jaw bone

At least on your humanoid models

[spark walrus]

I'll be sure to put the hair in the head tomorrow when I get back to my pc.

I had a tail and some horns but I yeeted them because they somewhere were attached and they kept moving together

[round comet]

Horns can go on the head bone and the tail can be attached to the spine

Their bones I mean

[spark walrus]

Ill look for a tutorial to figure it out

[near zenith]

apparently theres one shader thats not supported and i cant find which one

[craggy fulcrum]

(edit mode for simplicity/example sake) how would one go about making sure the clothing doesnt be dumb and not Tpose when im trying to rig it? tbh idk if im doing anything right currently im totally clueless.

[errant crag]

anyone know why my regulus is stuck in this pose?

the default one matches the t-pose and its a bit back normally but idk what happened with mine

[somber sequoia]

armature modifier on the clothing mesh ,weight paint it

(or I'm missing what the problem is)

[craggy fulcrum]

its me im the problem ;u;

[somber sequoia]

oh - I understand that well 🙂

[craggy fulcrum]

idk how to do any of that, ive only been trying to do this stuff for 2 weeks and feel like ive learned absolutely nothing

none of the video tutorials i find are helpful either, none of them show what i need shown and im so so tired of having to click through 500 videos a day to try to figure this stuff out ;u;

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what state your model is in, so I'm not sure what to tell you

[mellow drum]

Hmm.... Im trying to add Cats to my blender but its having issues. Do I have to change versions of blender or something?

[somber sequoia]

If you have Blender 3+, you need the "unofficial" cats, get it here: https://catsblenderplugin.xyz/

[craggy fulcrum]

ive managed to connect the body/face/hair all just fine. clothing however im struggling with because the second i try to it decides to just clip through the arms and do its own thing

[untold minnow]

why isnt my pants staying to my hip?

[somber sequoia]

that could me a LOT of things

[untold minnow]

its just connected to my leg?

[somber sequoia]

difficult to see from those pics, but it looks like you just need better weight painting.

[untold minnow]

could you help me out a lil bit

tell me what I could do better with

[somber sequoia]

if stuff moves and you don't want it to, use less weight. If stuff doesn't move and you want it to, use more weight

(this isn't easy to get perfect)

[craggy fulcrum]

meaning the armature for the head, body and hair are all connected and fine, the clothing isnt. im not really sure how else to word it than that.

[untold minnow]

Well I know the basics of weight painting

[somber sequoia]

"connected"?

[craggy fulcrum]

idk the terms, like i said i just started doing all this.

[untold minnow]

but its the entire waist is moving with the leg

[somber sequoia]

add an armature modifier to the clothing, and weight paint the clothing

[untold minnow]

when the waist is also separately weight painted

[somber sequoia]

weight painting is all about relationships - if part of it is moving with the leg, then there must be some weight that's making it do that.

[untold minnow]

I see

thank you

I will see

[somber sequoia]

if you don't have auto-normalization on, then "fully red" is possibly not actually fully red 🙂

also don't forget that a bone's children move with it, so sometimes weight on a child is the problem. Start at the end bones and work back to the roots

[mossy jacinth]

blender adding weights to an area farthest away from a bone for no reason and making you search through the whole armature to fix it:

[mellow drum]

Hmm....So Im going to be needing to make a model but for what I want to make the base is going to be alot bulkier and more stout than a normal base, with the character being alot taller and just thicker(Though they are also female) but I also cant afford to spend any money on it. Are there any suggestions for bases for something like this?

[somber sequoia]

you can easily go into edit mode and click a vertex, and see which weights apply to it

[civic bone]

what do i do for this

[mossy jacinth]

you, WHAT

[somber sequoia]

in the info box in the "n" popup menu thingy, weights get listed

item? I forget what it's called, I don't have blender open

(top one)

[patent geyser]

Is there anyway to force the creator companion to sort by abc order

Clicking name doesnt work. its frustraiting.

[mossy jacinth]

Right click the inspector on the avatar and add the animator

[errant crag]

more context, also still looking for help

[solemn hound]

hi anyone can help me via dm pls 🥺

[somber sequoia]

pumkin's tools has a thing to reset back to t-pose, you could try that

[civic bone]

@mossy jacinth in here ?

[solemn hound]

how i make follow the object to the avatar movements ?

[somber sequoia]

definitely need a lot more info than this

[mossy jacinth]

yep! at the very top

[somber sequoia]

you have an animator right there, but also a missing script, so probably you didn't install a requirement that you should

[civic bone]

i installed everything

idk how this works and its frustrating

[somber sequoia]

and yet you have a missing script

[civic bone]

yeah but idk where that is

[solemn hound]

dm

[somber sequoia]

I don't do private help for free, sorry

[civic bone]

i dont understand this at all and i love it and im currently being sarcastic

[solemn hound]

[civic bone]

i know how u feel it sucks

[mossy jacinth]

armature modifiers don't show in edit mode.

[somber sequoia]

you can show them if you really want, there's a toggle for it. Generally you don't, but hey, you do you 🙂

[craggy fulcrum]

i know, it was just for a visual example.

nvm i'll just figure it out myself yall aint helpful and are kinda rude.

[somber sequoia]

huh. and here I was trying.

[mossy jacinth]

????

[civic bone]

i wanna give up on mine tbh

[somber sequoia]

a lot of the problem in trying to help someone is having a good idea of what the person is trying to do, and what isn't working. If you can't explain it in enough detail, it's really hard to help.

[civic bone]

my problem is ive downloaded everything and it doesnt have the animator crap

or wtf that file is

[delicate osprey]

hello does anyone know why i am not able to grab physbones it is not a problem on the vrchat side it is something in unity?

[somber sequoia]

but the image you shared has an animator, so that's clearly not the issue

[civic bone]

it says its missing something

[mossy jacinth]

I'm assuming you haven't added a radius, physbones can't be grabbed without them

[somber sequoia]

"something"

[civic bone]

i dont understand

[mossy jacinth]

wait did you add an avatar descriptor?

[delicate osprey]

is that in the physbone itself or something in the hand?

[somber sequoia]

Right, so if actually has an animator, which means there's more of an issue - are there other errors in there? or in the console?

[civic bone]

lemme check

[mossy jacinth]

it's in the physbone settings

[civic bone]

all i have is this there was another error but thats just cuz i tried puting the file in but it didnt work meaning my avatar file but that one doesnt matter

[somber sequoia]

this suggests an old version of the SDK or Gesture manager, but yellow = warning, not error

[civic bone]

there are no other errors

but i cant upload it

[delicate osprey]

it has a radius i guess i should have said that other people can grab my physbones no problem i cant grab other peoples or my own

[somber sequoia]

maybe show everything in the build window where the animator error is?

[civic bone]

this?

[ornate stump]

Better screenshot the entire unity window.

[atomic plover]

I would like to turn off my body's movement locomotion in VRC when in or out of FBT as my avatar is meant to not have legs and just a dress. How can I turn it off, regardless of FBT?

[mossy jacinth]

Is "allow self" enabled? and sometimes players have avatar interactions disabled so the latter might not be your fault

you can also check your colliders in the avatar descriptor

[solemn hound]

nvm i find it by myself

idk why this channel is called " help " because some people is asking for money lol

[civic bone]

nice

[ornate stump]

That's what you'd get when asking in private dm.

[somber sequoia]

to be very clear, I never asked for money to help people in here, so suggesting that I did is incorrect

[civic bone]

i still dont understand why mine isnt working

[somber sequoia]

huh, that's all? Interesting. I'd consider redoing the rig setup, I'm not sure what else is the issue

[atomic plover]

This is my current method for locking the legs. but it causes the dress to be bent forward since its slightly weight painted to the legs and I'd like the legs to just register as straight down instead of bent

[delicate osprey]

other people could grab their physbones just not me and we double checked that interactions were on for me. my friend is also having the same issue with the avatar i made him, he also cant grab physbones.

[civic bone]

whats that?

[ornate stump]

Screenshot again but entire unity window.

[civic bone]

with the build?

[ornate stump]

Yes. Just show most of the thing you had in unity.

[somber sequoia]

The part where you setup the rig to be humanoid when you import your model file. I don't know what you did or didn't do before here so I'm guessing at what might be the issue, without really knowing

[civic bone]

ok 1 min

[civic bone]

do u want me to link the file so u can try?

[somber sequoia]

I'm not really sure how that would help your project, I'm sure I could make it work

[civic bone]

cuz my avatar had a green visor thats all i wanted to change was the color too and i figured that out too

[civic bone]

could u try and walk me through it with what ur doing if possible if i sent it?

or someone?

[brazen crater]

Guys i need help, I keep trying to upload my avatar and it keeps saying the build failed, I have everything updated and nothing seems wrong

[ornate stump]

What about screenshot?

[civic bone]

yeah 1 sec sorry forgot

[somber sequoia]

we'd need to see the error messages to help

[ornate stump]

#avatar-help message

[civic bone]

the decompress thing was something else it didnt matter i know what i did for that

[ornate stump]

Then also show where you put avatar descriptor.

[civic bone]

its behind the build 1 sec

[brazen crater]

I got it thanks

[civic bone]

wait discriptor?

were is that at?

[ornate stump]

You should ping once when you got what I ask.

[ornate stump]

Avatar descriptor, the component.

[civic bone]

were do i find this?

[ornate stump]

Do you remember where you added it?

[civic bone]

sorry i dont understand lol

like adding the avatar?

[ornate stump]

Just inspect your avatar root object and find a component called VRC Avatar Descriptor.

[civic bone]

avatar root? sorry ive never done anything with this stuff

oh vrc avatar discriptor?

[ornate stump]

Avatar root is the most left indented object in hierarchy.

[civic bone]

this?

[ornate stump]

Keep screenshot entire unity window.

[civic bone]

ok

[ornate stump]

Your avatar root is Viper object.

[civic bone]

ok so object im assumin is the little cube with blue on one of the sides?

[ornate stump]

Yes the blue one. The unity icon one is the scene.

[delicate osprey]

@mossy jacinth boop

[civic bone]

ok so what do i do now?

[somber sequoia]

did you show us your physbone settings and I missed it?

[ornate stump]

Screenshot showing avatar descriptor, entire unity window.

[civic bone]

is that on the inspector window?

[mossy jacinth]

check the ingame settings if you disabled avatar interactions, other than that I'm not sure what else you could do :(

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[civic bone]

ok

this right?

[delicate osprey]

its not that but thank you for the help

[civic bone]

oh entire screen 1 sec

[delicate osprey]

@somber sequoia here are the setting

[ornate stump]

Yes. You're having a bigger problem. You put avatar descriptor on a wrong object.

[somber sequoia]

Yeah this looks pretty reasonable. Not sure what else I'd look at, assuming that bone is correct and you have avatar interactions on, it ought to work fine.

[civic bone]

so how would i fix that

[somber sequoia]

ohhh yes, now that makes sense

[ornate stump]

Just put avatar descriptor on the correcr object.

[somber sequoia]

remove that and put it on the avatar root object. You could copy it in the "three dots" menu at the upper right of the component.

[ornate stump]

And remove avatar descritor from whereever you put it before.

[civic bone]

tbh i never touched it i just put the packages in

under assets

so idk were to put them

[ornate stump]

Let me guess, you got the package from "a friend".

[civic bone]

no

[ornate stump]

Then just inspect every object and see where the descriptor is.

[delicate osprey]

its every physbone on the avatar i cant grab and i cant grab any physbones on anyone's avatars thats why i was thinking it was something maybe wrong with my hands that im missing that would allow me to grab physbones

[civic bone]

i got it off a website and it said a read me with a link to google docs for the shader stuff and i did both in the package cuz i thought they were both packages

[ornate stump]

If the avatar package came in like that, the author was absolutely incompetent.

[somber sequoia]

yeah it's something else then, this physbone looks good to me

[civic bone]

can i send u what it is?

[somber sequoia]

"a website" - which one?

[civic bone]

1 min

[ornate stump]

Not need.

[somber sequoia]

aha

[ornate stump]

Aha moment

[somber sequoia]

So it's ripped.

cool, moving on.

[civic bone]

what does that mean?

[somber sequoia]

certain sites offer stolen content

[civic bone]

oh

so i shouldnt be doing it then?

[somber sequoia]

often stolen right from the game, sometimes from other sites

Pay creators for their work.

[civic bone]

i feel sad now

i didnt know that tbh

[ornate stump]

I'm going to do something else now.

[somber sequoia]

when you're newish, sometimes it's not really clear

[civic bone]

sorry about that

[delicate osprey]

do you know what makes it grabbable cause i am assuming it has to do with something with my hands since i cant grab any physbones.

[somber sequoia]

you've got the option set to make it grabbable

[delicate osprey]

so does the physbones just detect hands or how does it know how to grab

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure I know the details you're asking about, but yes, you grab with hands

[delicate osprey]

ok ill ask tomorrow when more people are awake thank you for your help

[somber sequoia]

I meant more that it sounds like you're asking for like, vrchat technical details about how it works internally?

[delicate osprey]

fair

[glass geyser]

so, tell me - cause this is driving me insanse - an avatar I got has a pc and quest version, obviously want the avatar cross platform, they are unity packages, all I want to do is upload pc for windows and then import the quest version unity package and make that one android so I don't have to switch avatars for either version just for people to see me. but when I import the other unity package it like, replaces the whole project with that one, and for all I know is you just have to copy the blue print to the other one and it will make it work for both but I can't when it does that.

even when the avatar creators do god's work and make their avatar work by removing so much cause it has to be extremely specific and quest versions literally need to be wii quality, it's somehow still hard to just upload it for the other platform.

[patent geyser]

how do i fix this?

[somber sequoia]

remove some parameters or uncheck the "synced" box - knowing that this means other users won't see their effects

each int or float counts as 8 bits, a bool counts as 1

[keen jay]

hihi im beyond confused currently. ive been editing my avatar for couple weeks now and for some reason like half of my model sliders dont work (eg. ear size, tail size, etc.) ive gone over everything and cant find a reason or any resources online for it

if anyone could help id appreciate the hell out of them 😭

as far as i am aware they only stopped working either last night or today. havent changed much except for some blendshapes for clothing

[vestal haven]

BEHOLD

It took so long and I had to re-edit all my animations to work with the new skeleton, but this will be well worth it for what I have in mind >:D

[mellow drum]

That is cool, though im worried about getting motion sick depending on how it works

[vestal haven]

camera view doesnt move with it!....but I can make it an option

its more of a test to see if it worked well, Im gonna use this for a system for "melee combat"

[atomic plover]

Is there a shader or some setting with poiyomi that will allow me to have a portion of my avatar change color a certain distance away from a point? I want to create an effect of something that fades in the further away it gets from my body

[pseudo fox]

how do I keep my glasses attached to my head? when I look around horizontally they stay on but when I try to look up/down or if I move around, they lag behind and just clip into my head.

I have it inside my avatar hierarchy

[atomic plover]

Is there a way to just make a thing just, randomly wiggle?

Like having something on my avatar that just keeps wiggling around even when stationary

[ornate stump]

Did you put the glasses prefab on the head bone?

[pseudo fox]

I did try that once but it did the same thing

like this?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

Is that what you did?

[pseudo fox]

I have before

but

I'll retest it right now

[ornate stump]

It should just work this way.

[pseudo fox]

should I remove the armature since it's already connected to the head?

[ornate stump]

Absolutely don't.

[pseudo fox]

alright

[serene wing]

What do I do to fix the humanoid problem?

[left gull]

click the model's .fbx and change it from generic to humanoid (you'll also likely need to go to configure and setup the rig)

[half ice]

can anyone tell me please .. how to fix this ( i change few things on my avatar in blender and export it to unity but when i use the blendshapes what the body have the texture look like this)
im using the blendshapes what the avatar have before i didnt change anything with the body i just added clothing

[solemn hound]

any know how to i make a texture swap ?

[half ice]

nvm I found the solution xD

[ornate stump]

Texture can't be change directly. You have to animate material swap.

[solemn hound]

[ornate stump]

Not sure what you meant by that.

[hallow otter]

I’m trying to find a Jacket model that is similar to that of an irl jacket.

I’m also not sure if this is the right channel to ask this question.

[junior void]

doesnt really fit here

[hallow otter]

So where do I go to ask this question?

[junior void]

im not aware of a channel that fits you here. there is an avatar search channel, but then again, its for avatars, not assets. id like to suggest searching on gumroad, jinxxy and booth

[kind vigil]

Can anyone help me figure out how to do this cartoon squish or flat effect?

[dark jay]

if i wanted the thumb not to clip through the sleeve would i weight the wrist or the thumb vertex?

[solemn hound]

why the animation is not working i don't understand

[plain anchor]

Hi there, just here to know if I am alone in this situation. Since few beta update and now in the live version too, I have some random issues on VRChat constraint.
Randomly at the avatar loading all the constraints are just broken. My parent constraint leaves the object at their initial position, the rotation constraint are not rotating anymore.

The only way I had to fix this is to rejoin the world (a basic reload of the avatar is not enough).

It seems to be local, and random. I haven't found any hints as of why it does that.

My constraint were working perfectly for a long time, and it suddenly became really unstable

[desert elk]

what's your animation set up?

[small raft]

does anyone know why my clothing isnt sticking to my avatar on quest?

[vernal pecan]

Is somebody have an idea how to make GestureLeftWeight and GestureRightWeight -driven animations to refresh fast for other players?

[timber wharf]

define fast, any avatar data is 10hz at best

[vernal pecan]

but except those two, isn't that so?

at least it was like this some time ago, maybe now it was changed?

[timber wharf]

10hz is ik sync, thats fastest any data gets in vrc

for comparison typical world pickup is 5hz most

[vernal pecan]

Playable they are... and it makes animations driven by them laggy

[timber wharf]

oh, well, then playable they are.

weights are implemented kinda dumb anyway, trigger on index, grip on quest.🤷‍♂️

[vernal pecan]

but locally they aren't laggy... maybe there is a way to locally transmit their values to normal float variables and then control things by those variables globally? maybe i not understant local-thing completely

[timber wharf]

ye, locally theres as much data as you want

like you can send thousand events via osc and theyll be fine locally

while remote will see only a few per second

[ornate stump]

You could combine with parameter smoothing.

Should help mitigate stuttering.

[timber wharf]

normal floats are also playable, unless its radial menu being opened afaik

[vernal pecan]

what is parameter smoothing, it is built-in feature?

[ornate stump]

More like a complicate workaround. Search for "animated animator parameter" or "osc smoothing".

[timber wharf]

https://github.com/regzo2/OSCmooth

[vernal pecan]

will oscmoothing affect Gesture[]Weight ?

[mental estuary]

It would be better to use VRCFury's smoothing, as it's frame-time-independant, and also non-destructive

[timber wharf]

no it will create new param to be used in animation

[vernal pecan]

but any of this solutions can help to make smooth GestureWeight driven animation?

[mental estuary]

Use either gesture weight in a VRCFury Full Controller when merging whatever you're doing, in the advanced settings add the gesture weight parameters to the smoothed parameters list. VRCFury will automatically handle the generation of the smoothed parameters and rewrite your animations to use those smoothed parameters as well

Then you can still test in Unity with the normal parameters in GestureManager, and it will all just work

https://vrcfury.com/components/full-controller#smooth-parameters

[vernal pecan]

Ok, ill try, but testing in unity as in vrchat itself is useless, cause locally they are always look fine, but other people notice ugly suttering

[mental estuary]

Locally the smoothed parameters will never apply to make sure everything updates as quick as possible for you

As long as the parameters are marked as wanting to be smoothed, I don't see why it wouldn't work

Just use GestureLeft/RightWeight as you would normally in any animations

[vernal pecan]

thanks

[spark walrus]

Is there a way to make your avis textures look better

[junior void]

define 'better'

[spark walrus]

Like not shitty

[junior void]

thats not helpful

take a picture of what you got and tell us what youd like it to be instead

[spark walrus]

My avi looks like a blob with no detail, no shadows, no highlights, just 1 color with no reflections

[junior void]

you likely didnt set shading to anything other than "flat" which is the default setting of poiyomi

[spark walrus]

Here the whole avi just pops in comparison. You can see shadows. Light reflects, there's detail in the textures. They aren't just a lifeless blob

[north sonnet]

Hello can someone help me with SDK

[ornate stump]

Someone can, after you describe the help you need.

[north sonnet]

I don't have the control panel

[ornate stump]

Did you create your project via creator companion?

[north sonnet]

Yes

[ornate stump]

#avatar-help message

[ornate stump]

Your unity installation seems to be incompleted. Try uninstalling and install back again.

[north sonnet]

ok

[north sonnet]

Where do i unstaling it

[ornate stump]

Via unity hub.

[shut plover]

What is the quest shader for 2d elements like this ?

the only one that would work mobile/sprite/alpha blended is not allowed on the SDK

[ornate stump]

There is no shader for quest that can do transparency. You have to cut the mesh to shape instead.

[shut plover]

shucks, well thanks

[north sonnet]

Im dowloading it manualy

i think it might work better

[ornate stump]

Using standalone installer would make it harder to install android build module.

[balmy barn]

can just download android/ios manually from unity (ctrl+shift+b or file/build settings)

ios i dont really care about

[crisp perch]

anyone know how to fix that?

[balmy barn]

look one up

you need to download android build support

install only that , dont need rest

[crisp perch]

ohhh alr ty!

[serene wing]

For some reason I’m trying to get rid of the standard material from my vroid model but for some reason it isn’t letting me extract from prefab or delete it? Can someone help me it would really help ty

[junior void]

i have so many questions right now

why dont you just go over your meshes and assign a different shader?

[desert elk]

exactly, that's what you should do

[pale cloak]

For some reason when I try to upload a quest avi it says that the android player is disabled,is there a way to enable it?

[spark walrus]

Does anyone know how to make avi textures look better

[somber sequoia]

really depends on what you mean by better and what you currently have

[indigo compass]

Did you install android build support when installing unity?

If not, just follow this.
#avatar-help message

[junior void]

@spark walrus didnt read my reply?

[pale cloak]

Yea it says I have it installed when I go to unity hub

[round comet]

Your example is less the texture and more actual material

So you need to mess around with poiyomi

[spark walrus]

okay

[round comet]

You could even use your godfall avi as inspo

See what settings are used on her for certain mats

[spark walrus]

oohh good idea

[spark walrus]

why is my head and body one shared material

[somber sequoia]

why not?

one material slot is more efficient than more than one 🙂

[zenith harness]

Does anyone have knowledge about how to change proportions of limbs without completely breaking an avatar?

I know the use of blender is needed and I tried, my character was shorter and still rigged right except now all her physbones, toggles, and her camera were all off

[somber sequoia]

Ideally export your avatar with "Apply scalings" set to "FBX All", but it may have been done differently in the past

[spark walrus]

cuz i put the face on and it covers the whole body

[somber sequoia]

But once you change scale, you'll need to update all the things that don't change automatically, such as physbones and viewpoint

[zenith harness]

Yeah that's what I ran into I think. so there's no good way to copy past those you just have to redo all of them

[somber sequoia]

really don't know what you have, but if you've merged these things into the same UV map then you'll need to rework the textures to fit that

[somber sequoia]

Really depends on what you've got, but if it's the export settings, they should only be off by a factor of 100. Viewpoint is easy to reposition

[zenith harness]

If I load her in there's also some super bright light lmao

It all becomes complicated so quickly that it's making me want to settle with just never having satisfying tracking on the legs

[somber sequoia]

it's probably not that bad once you "get it" 🙂

[spark walrus]

hair comes off when walking

[desert elk]

parent it properly in blender instead of unpacking the prefab and moving stuff around in unity

what are your hair bones parented to now?

[cerulean garnet]

thats the mesh

[spark walrus]

o

what do i need to look at

[cerulean garnet]

open the armature and find your hair bones

[spark walrus]

all these hairs?

[mossy jacinth]

you gotta go into the armatures edit mode and parent the the hair bones to the head bone

[spark walrus]

o

[cerulean garnet]

like this

[spark walrus]

its not in anything i can fimd

[cerulean garnet]

does your hair not have bones?

[spark walrus]

yes it has many

[cerulean garnet]

and if you click around the armature in edit mode and look for root bone?

[cerulean garnet]

click the armature and go into edit mode

click around the head and find the hair bones and then follow the chain up to the root bone in the hierarchy

[spark walrus]

this says root

[cerulean garnet]

then do this

select the hair root

then Ctrl + click the head bone

right click > parent > keep offsets

[prisma thunder]

Could someone explain in crayon eating terms how one would go about combining skinned meshes?
I have 10:
Head
Body
Hair
One set of ears
Other set of ears
Panties
Sweater
Collar
Thigh Highs
Tail

[cerulean garnet]

in blender select them all in object mode > move your mouse into the scene view and press CTRL + J

make sure every UVMap has the same name or it will break

[prisma thunder]

That's not crayon eating terms

That's playdough eating terms

[cerulean garnet]

what are you confused about?

[prisma thunder]

How do I rename and find the UV maps 🙏

[cerulean garnet]

just select each object on your avatar

and view it on this page

make sure the UV map name is the same

[prisma thunder]

Assuming I just drag all of my fbx files into blender, do I have to align them properly? (Like the clothes are where they are supposed to be, for example)

[cerulean garnet]

oh are you trying to make a model yourself?

[prisma thunder]

Nono

[cerulean garnet]

you test in blender if it works by selecting the armature > top right of the scene view and selecting pose mode > then rotating the head bone

see if your hair follows

[prisma thunder]

I have the deira base with some clothes, extra ears, and a tail. Just trying to get the avatar down to medium on pc

[cerulean garnet]

if it's already attached to a model you have in unity then you just import the FBX file into blender and all the seperate meshes will come too.

[prisma thunder]

Weird question; why do any avatars have more than one skinned mesh if they can all be combined so easily?

[cerulean garnet]

its sometimes better for performance to keep meshes seperated if they have a lot of geometry

or a lot of blendshapes

[prisma thunder]

Ah

[spark walrus]

now this happened in unity after doing the parent

but its not in blender

[cerulean garnet]

did you keep offsets or move the hair around in unity?

[spark walrus]

i kept offsets

[cerulean garnet]

good

[spark walrus]

and idk how to move hair in unity

[prisma thunder]

Just wanna make sure im not doing anything wrong 🙏

[desert elk]

Physbones and head collider would be my guess

for Tylerdacherry

[cerulean garnet]

This doesn't really tell me anything

[cerulean garnet]

^

[spark walrus]

how do i set it up

[desert elk]

you need to add a collider to the head bone first

[desert elk]

VRC Phys Bone Collider

and mess with the size to cover your head

[spark walrus]

like so?

[prisma thunder]

How would I rename these? Right clicking doesnt work lol

[cerulean garnet]

does the physbones on your hair have the collider section set to use the new collider you just made?

[prisma thunder]

(Sorry for asking dumb questions)

[cerulean garnet]

double click

but if all your meshes have the same named ones selected as the active ones

you dont have to mess with it

like if they all have a bunch of UVMaps with different names, but the actively used ones are all named UVMap you can just leave it

[prisma thunder]

Ah

tysm

[cerulean garnet]

set the size to 1 and drag your head collider into it

[desert elk]

colliders size, the bottom one

[cerulean garnet]

and the radius to something

[spark walrus]

the radius doesnt matter?

[cerulean garnet]

it does, otherwise your collision radius on the bones will be hair thin

[spark walrus]

what do i put it to

[cerulean garnet]

idk

whatever fits

[spark walrus]

oof

[cerulean garnet]

its completely dependant on whatever you're working on

just look in the scene view and check if it somewhat fits around the hair

[spark walrus]

nothing is changing in the scene when i change the radius

[prisma thunder]

All the UVMaps were named as such, I joined everything except my tail, second set of ears, and hair together, and imported the fbx into unity, hoping I didnt mess anything up lol

[quasi briar]

Try adding an Y-axis endpoint value

[desert elk]

Zoom out, it could be that you exported with default blender settings and your colliders are just massive so you can't see them when you're zoomed in

[spark walrus]

is it this weird box

[idle quartz]

can someone help me understand how to use a unitypackage.part file because the quest version of the model is a unitypackage but the pc version is a unitypackage.part and i cant drag an drop or import it

[desert elk]

No

You have your hair selected right now, so physbones are invisible

You need to have the physbone component open

just like when you set the head collider

[desert elk]

does it import manually? Assets > Import Package > Custom Package

[idle quartz]

it doesnt show up in file explorer

[desert elk]

?

[idle quartz]

it just cuts everything down to folders

[desert elk]

I think I'll need a screenshot

[idle quartz]

sure one sec

[desert elk]

what bone did you put the physbone component on?

[idle quartz]

thats if i try to import

[desert elk]

So it's just a folder of files?

Oh

[idle quartz]

this is how my explorer looks like normally

[desert elk]

I see it now

[idle quartz]

ye

the file i need is at the top

[desert elk]

Hmm

[cerulean garnet]

what if you just delete the .part and import it

[desert elk]

I've had some weird endings sometimes and I'd just delete the stuff at the end

You could try that

[idle quartz]

ok maybe 100 iq lemme see

omg

wait

[cerulean garnet]

if its a .unitypackage.part that doesnt really make sense

same way you would back up a dll file or something by naming it .dll.bak

[desert elk]

I've had .gz before and I'd just delete it

[idle quartz]

failed to import package: couldn't decompress package

[cerulean garnet]

how did you get this package

[idle quartz]

my friend sent me it to work on

[cerulean garnet]

is the download also called .part? could just be an incomplete download

[idle quartz]

in our dms yes

[cerulean garnet]

ask them to export the unity package again. A .part file shouldn't even be a thing

[prisma thunder]

After combining the meshes, how would I
A) Toggle materials on specific parts (With expressions menu)
B) Toggle off specific parts

[cerulean garnet]

UV Tile discard or animate the materials alpha

if things are a single mesh, you can't really toggle it off in the sense of disabling it and enabling it later, you just kinda make it invisible

[desert elk]

If you want to toggle something like animal ears or small hair parts off you could make a Blendeshape that makes them small and hides them in the head

that's what I did for my Avis ears

[cerulean garnet]

i have my tail and ears on a single material and toggle them individually with UV tiles

also have all my metallics across the entire avi on a single metal material that i UV discard

[desert elk]

I've never used the UV stuff so idk

[cerulean garnet]

its really easy

[balmy barn]

another way - scale down bone instead , blendshapes the heaviest way of doing it

[cerulean garnet]

true

[desert elk]

how would you do that? make an animation of the bone in unity?

[balmy barn]

same as any toggle, just scale down root bone of ear/tail ect instead

[cerulean garnet]

Don't see why you cant just record shrinking the bone and use that in your FX.

[desert elk]

I didn't know that's how it worked xd

I'll try it out on my next avi

[cerulean garnet]

i have all these as metals lol

but they're on a 4x4 grid on the UV

[desert elk]

that's a lot

[cerulean garnet]

so they can be toggled

all on 1 material

[desert elk]

interesting

[cerulean garnet]

its nifty af, you should do it

set the tiles up here to 4x4 so its easier to visualize

then just select the UV and do G + X/Y + 1/2/3

[desert elk]

i don't do my own uv maps yet, maybe some day xd

[cerulean garnet]

to move them

you dont need to make them

just move them

[shut oxide]

Hello does anyone know if i can export blender curves (used em for hair) to unity or do i have to turn em into a mesh first

[desert elk]

i think it's too early for me to understand that xD i'll stick to my blendshapes for now

[prisma thunder]

Please teach 🙏

Also uh

Kinda wanna make sure it all works on quest

[balmy barn]

uv discard using m +/- value , its not a quest thing tho

[cerulean garnet]

^

[desert elk]

@_@

[balmy barn]

quest you better off either bone scaling, mesh toggle (rip perf stat) or last blendshapes

[desert elk]

yeah, i mostly do quest stuff

[prisma thunder]

I have this issue now lol

[desert elk]

you need to set the rig as humanoid

[prisma thunder]

Uhhh

How 😭

[desert elk]

find your fbx in the assets click on it, go to rig, set it as humanoid

press apply

and then you can check the configure button to check if all bones got assigned correctly

[spark walrus]

now theres just a small gap

[desert elk]

make the collider bigger maybe?

or move it a bit the the side?

[radiant tree]

Does anyone have a copy of the suited V-bot? It went out of sale on gumroad and have been trying to find a copy of the model for a little bit now for making a personal custom.

[arctic ginkgo]

you need to turn them into a mesh first, but if you want to keep the original in your blender file in case you need to edit it later, you can always duplicate it and hide the original before converting it. Then when exporting your FBX make sure that anything you don't want do export is hidden and anything you do want to export is shown. Then check "Visible Objects" in the "include" section at the top

[arctic ginkgo]

found it on VRCArena seems to be the original seller, just not sold on gumroad now
https://www.vrcarena.com/assets/3c3f6-suit-v-bot-3-0-quest-compatible-vrc-sdk3-avatar-upload-tutorial

[radiant tree]

thanks, guess i'll try to save some money now so i can buy the assets

[desert elk]

same thing as~Hero~

[desert elk]

here

[spark walrus]

oh duh

[frail temple]

quick question, how hard is it to port an already existing avatar into a quest compatible version?

this is the one iam talking about

[spark walrus]

hard maybe

do u have the files

[frail temple]

Not exactly

[idle quartz]

i get errors when trying to upload the pc version of my avatar saying poyomi shaders cant be used for quest avis even tho my build is set to windows

[frail temple]

How hard?

[desert elk]

if you don't have files it's not possible

[desert elk]

restart your windows, switch to android/quest and switch back

[idle quartz]

i have to restart my whole pc? :<

[frail temple]

I'll try to get in touch with the avatar creator, I just want to know how hard it is if I had the files

Since I am a total freshie

[arctic ginkgo]

it absolutely depends on the avatar

[balmy barn]

acient 2.0 sdk av ,not impossible to find the files to convert it to vrchat yourself , it will however hate quest shader those hairs are cutouts

[arctic ginkgo]

it might just be as simple as replacing the shader and uploading to quest, or it could require days of work

ohh yeah i didn't notice the hair

it's hair cards which use transparency, which quest does not have

might have to do a bit of work to get the avi setup for sdk 3.0 (which you should do for PC and Quest) not too much work, it's a pretty simple avatar

hardest part will be getting the hair to look nice on quest

might require blender and/or texture editing

[frail temple]

Is it mediocre work for a seasoned vrc avatar creator or a newbie who has no idea how either of those work?

Might just pay someone else to do it

[balmy barn]

knife tool would go on overdrive , ads alot of time and vertices

id pay 0$

black parts are ment to be seethrough quest cannot so blender+knifetool+hour'iiish

[frail temple]

Guess I'll get to learning blender and getting the files

I don't think it's possible to find someone who would do this work for 0$ is there?