avatar-help

[amber pivot]

all of the clothes have the same meshes and material, ill check about the anchor

[sterile pike]

How many seats are feasibly allowed to be put on a VR chat avatar totally not asking so that I can make a helicopter that can station 12 people

[shut swift]

Would anyone be ok with helping me make an avatar using game models

[misty hemlock]

could someone tell me why my material doesnt apply well on UV when I import the fbx ? is there something to do ? thanks

[amber pivot]

checked the anchor but nothing seemed to work?

[misty hemlock]

I may be completely off but isnt something with wrong sided normals on your mesh ?

[amber pivot]

i checked but all of them are facing normally,,,

it may be the materials messing up so i may redo them

[misty hemlock]

Do you know what my issue could be ?

I feel like its something stupid but im a total beginner

[flint rose]

afaik, the limit is 6, but I could be wrong

[balmy barn]

https://creators.vrchat.com/worlds/components/vrc_station/#stations-used-on-avatars 6

[twin pumice]

hi, is there anyone who is good at uploading avatars and would be able to help with my issue? Theres more issues listed with the VRCFury but i was just wondering if anyone could possibly help.

[plush onyx]

click edit in prefab, disable the two checkboxes "compress puppets" and "compress bool toggles"

then go up to the top, vrchat SDK > utilities > network id import and export utility > click regenerate scene ids for both the quest and pc side

[dusty hemlock]

whats that?

🥲

[plush onyx]

You have to tell what parts of the body to move with what bones. I've attached the rig I use and some random tutorial that's hopefully good, you only care about the part where they tell you about weightpainting, ignore anything about constraints or creating the rig
https://shunaka.gumroad.com/l/CbdBI

https://youtu.be/DDeB4tDVCGY?si=ysFVTgRCAuThzqlN

also, weight painting is not fun, it's very finicky so I hope you have patience

[dusty hemlock]

what is weight painting?

If you dm me asking.

[dusty hemlock]

Is it okay if i dm you?, like how do i put the thing in the same place as her

it opened a different place

[plush onyx]

you need to have basic knowledge of blender to tackle weightpainting
you can copy and paste the rig into your current project by selecting it and pressing ctrl+c, ctrl+v

[exotic yoke]

Would it be possible for someone to help me in creating a new avatar? It's my first one and I dont have experience in unity

[plush onyx]

I unfortunately don't have time right now to walk you through step-by-step
I have commissions I'm working on and I'm repairing older avatars that I've been meaning to fix for a while, but I will be starting paid lessons of blender/unity/substance painter/etc soon

[somber sequoia]

follow tutorials, ask here if you get stuck, provide details

[azure citrus]

Hi! I'm currently having issues with my hands and wanted to know where to start

rigth now in blender it looks like this

but in unity it looks like this (When closed)

in game they bend backwards like this

is there any way im supposed to have them resting or something?

[raven orbit]

if you move your fingers do they bend backwards too or forward

[somber sequoia]

you're thinking bone roll being wrong maybe?

[raven orbit]

maybe idk

[azure citrus]

they bend forwards and look a bit more decent when i rest my finger on the trigger

it's just that weird default pose plus they're all kinda slanted in 1 direction

[somber sequoia]

I wouldn't expect that to be so bad, but yeah, check to be sure the bone roll for those is 0

[azure citrus]

captured this last night im not in game rn to screenshot

[frosty summit]

How come I keep removing parameters to the point it's 201/256, yet when I upload it tells me its 261/256

[somber sequoia]

got something like vrc fury on there?

[frosty summit]

yeah

[azure citrus]

the index and middle were rolled 180 while the ring and pinky were rolled 0

not sure that's the issue since all fingers are bent the same

[frosty summit]

with the compressor thing for the parameters

[somber sequoia]

start by fixing those, see if it helps

[raven orbit]

could also try to make them more straightened out and parallel like this because that's what unity is expecting for humanoid models

[somber sequoia]

yeah that was my second thought, they're a bit splayed. but I'm not sure why it'd cause the backwards curl

[azure citrus]

ah, ill try undoing the splay

still looks a bit weird rn

[frosty summit]

does it have something to do with it? feels like if I removed like 50 parameter slots, only like 5 actual slots are freed up

[somber sequoia]

it can, if some component adds extra parameters. You'd have to look at them all.

[azure citrus]

let's try this

still kinda funky

[flint rose]

might be a good idea to add some downwards curl to the fingers.

also, how are you going about applying the pose as the new rest pose?

[azure citrus]

applying it via CATS

[flint rose]

anyways, some amount of upwards bending is normal, most people can do that a bit

[flint rose]

good 👍

[azure citrus]

but i also applied it manually with the same issue

cool

[flint rose]

did you do Pose > Reset in unity after reimporting modified FBX?

[azure citrus]

i added a bit of downward scale before and the same thing happened

[azure citrus]

didnt know that was a thing, but ive been setting the rig to none and then humanoid again to reset it

[azure citrus]

same deal

[flint rose]

the roll of the bones might be incorrect. turn on bone axis, and check that they're correct

[azure citrus]

in blender or unity?

[flint rose]

blender

[raven orbit]

fix the hand bone too

[azure citrus]

got it, hand bone is fixed

though that didnt change the fingers, just moved my hand slightly down

[misty hemlock]

still need help if anyone knows ❤️

[somber sequoia]

perhaps the textures aren't designed for the UV map the mesh has, can't tell from this image.

[candid osprey]

Say I want to use a single audio controller, but want it to be able to randomize between audio files that it uses everytime its animation is triggered. How do?

[somber meadow]

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors#animator-play-audio

[dusty hemlock]

why does it say this

[azure citrus]

if it's difficult to fix the main finger angles, does anybody know a fix for my thumb bending in the wrong direction?

[cunning grove]

Does anyone know how. Or have a tutorial on making facial expressions for gestures and adding it to the avatar in unity?

[candid osprey]

I can't seem to find this script when adding a component.

[balmy barn]

old sdk wont have it , its a behaviour in a controller

theres my random audio setup (paramter 0 = silence , greater then 0 play a random one)

that thing add it to a state in fx controller

[bold sun]

Hey so im tyring to uplaod a chracter i uploaded a few months ago but this time im getting a Application error. I dont know what exactly is the issue though. I don't know if these are enough information to discern where the problem could be but if they are please let me know :3

The offline build test did work

[somber sequoia]

looks like there may be more errors above - post the first 2-3.

[bold sun]

Above that were jsut warnings. I think i may have foudn the issue so im retryign the upload right now, if it fails again ill try to uplaod the entire log or look for more errors

Ok lemme upload the logs

[bold sun]

Im not sure if you just wanted the errors or also the warnings, but i just sent the warnings

[somber sequoia]

errors

some of the errors suggest you should probably unlock and re-lock your poiyomi shaders

the "1's position" one is a side-effect error, usually you get the real problem ones in the first 5 messages, at the top.

the rest of this is just noise

[bold sun]

Is it noting any specific shaders i should unlock and relock?

[somber sequoia]

the ones it's complaining about in the error messages

[bold sun]

seems to only be complaining about one specific shader

[dusty hemlock]

anybody

[somber sequoia]

because that's not going to work every time, you may just have to manually paint it

what were you trying to do exactly?

[dusty hemlock]

well i tried to watch a video on how to rig it

and thats what the guy said

[dusty hemlock]

I dunno how to do that

or what that means

[somber sequoia]

right so again, exactly what are you trying to do here?

[proven trellis]

how do I make it so only one of these toggles can be on at once? So if I have like.. annoyed enabled and I enable say, happy or something it disables annoyed

[somber sequoia]

you can put VRC Avatar Parameter Driver on one of the animation states, use it to turn off a different variable

[proven trellis]

..these are VRCFury toggles

Would that work?..

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure how those are implemented, you might want to ask in the vrcfury server

[dusty hemlock]

trying to put these on the actual character

🥲

[somber sequoia]

"these"?

[dusty hemlock]

the amature idk what there called.

[somber sequoia]

Looks like you have an armature, are you trying to weight paint?

[dusty hemlock]

Well i want to connect the bone to the actual model.

and idk what thatt is im a beginner 😭

[somber sequoia]

Did you make the model?

[dusty hemlock]

No i didnt, i just tweaked it a lot

i made the hair

[somber sequoia]

ok - and did it have an armature or are you adding that?

[dusty hemlock]

im adding armature

It didnt have one

[somber sequoia]

ah interesting. Ok so you probably tried the "parent with automatic weights" thing, right?

[dusty hemlock]

Yeah thats what the video told me, but yes

[somber sequoia]

okay. so if that didn't work, probably you'll have to do some manual weight painting. You most likely would anyway though, the automatic stuff gets you close at best

[dusty hemlock]

im not sure how to do tht

[dusty hemlock]

What exaclty is that

[somber sequoia]

have you not just done a web search for a tutorial?

[dusty hemlock]

idk what to exaclty search.

[somber sequoia]

blender "weight painting" is probably a good idea

[proven trellis]

Do you know if I can control an animations speed with a radial? Is that possible?

[somber sequoia]

please don't ping me for new things. But yes, there's speed and position parameters on animation states, use a float value

[livid palm]

How do i fix this?

[dusty hemlock]

i did it but how do i know if it looks good or not

[somber sequoia]

sorry, you did what?

[dusty hemlock]

the rigging?

[somber sequoia]

oh - not sure why you replied to that then

basically if it moves how you want it, it's good 🙂

[cunning grove]

I forgot what problem this is. How do i fix this

[dusty hemlock]

Why is this stuff seprated when i move the head

😭

[somber sequoia]

looks like extra objects you didn't weight paint yet

[livid palm]

@somber sequoia

How to fix?

[somber sequoia]

you too, please don't ping me to ask random new questions

[livid palm]

Just this once can u help me man

Im struggling

[somber sequoia]

if I had an answer, I'd have provided it.

[livid palm]

Ah

Ok

[somber sequoia]

you could probably search through the history to find others with the same problem and the kinds of things people asked them about it

[livid palm]

Where do i find the history

[somber sequoia]

I meant of this channel

[livid palm]

Oh😂

[cunning swan]

anyone know how to do cutouts for quest side of vrc avatars

[somber meadow]

cutout as in an avatar that's just a plane (flat picture)?

[misty hemlock]

My textures are all on the same material and work fine in blender with uvmaping, its when I import the fbx in unity, it doesnt work I feel like it did not import the uvmaping

[raven orbit]

if you mean cutout by transparency, i've found this way to do it in blender

[arctic ginkgo]

Do you have multiple UV maps?

[somber sequoia]

that would be weird. but... the list of UV maps is ordered, if you have more than one, it could be they got mis-ordered

[raven orbit]

i think selecting a uv map makes it the first index on export

[somber sequoia]

I always check the order before export - but I'm often combining or re-ordering them too so it's just part of the process

[proven trellis]

Can I stop it from doing.. this? it's a 9x9 sprite, and yes I set the texture filtering to point (no filter), but that changed nothing. Can I keep it pixel-y or do I just have to upscale the image?

[arctic ginkgo]

changing the max size may help? i'm not sure

[proven trellis]

All that does is caps the image resolution, that wouldn't do anything...

[cold palm]

You set the parameter that controls them as an integer so it cant have multiple states at once

[proven trellis]

I already got that all figured out with VRCFury, thank you though

[proven trellis]

Would you happen to know anything on this?..

[cold palm]

Wasnt sure yeah, good thing u got it fixed then

[cold palm]

Cause its blurry?

[proven trellis]

Yeah.

It's supposed to look like this.

[cold palm]

In unity does it look this way once u set the image to say 16x16 ?

[proven trellis]

it's a 9x9 sprite, I turned off texture filtering but it's still trying to smooth it.

[cold palm]

Maybe is it because its 9x9 ? Im trynna guess lol

Try to change it to 8x8 or 16x16 maybe

Iirc thats the resolutions vrc uses for the quick menus

Or well dimensions*

[somber sequoia]

is it the mipmaps setting?

I guess probably not, if it's just in the menu

[cold palm]

Wonder why itd be like that on upload if it (i assume so) looks fine in unity

[flint rose]

what if you use the Sprite texture type?

[proven trellis]

Oh you're here.. I have it set to sprite.

[flint rose]

I am everywhere ^^

[naive ferry]

is it possible to toggle objects using contacts

[cold palm]

Yes

[naive ferry]

set it to point no filter

[proven trellis]

Already have..

[naive ferry]

how

[cold palm]

You just make it so the animation the contact uses toggles an object

[flint rose]

can you screenshot the full import settings of the texture?

[flint rose]

hm, interesting

[proven trellis]

So i'm stuck with this?.. T . T

[flint rose]

you could upscale it a bit, potentially

to like, 128x128

[proven trellis]

Unfortunately doing that also immediately makes it blurry.

[raven orbit]

it works in vrchat, maybe it just doesn't work in gesture manager? (at least it kinda looks like that's what the original screenshot was from)

[proven trellis]

Oh.

I'll build it and look.

[winter sun]

trying to get this up on quest. everythings compressed but still not wanting to upload. idk if it's something i'm missing

[proven trellis]

it's still 1 mb over

[raven orbit]

yeah everything being compressed doesn't really matter when there's too many things total adding up

[winter sun]

how tho idk what else to do to get it to upload but i wanna keep everything

i guess it's stuck as pc only

[arctic ginkgo]

try using build size viewer

it won't reduce anything but it'll show you what is taking up the most space

then you know what to reduce

[winter sun]

never heard of it

they're either 1080 or lower is what i have them set to

last time i uploaded to quest i never had an issue

[proven trellis]

Okay so.. 2 of the images are pixely and then the others aren't??

They all have IDENTICAL settings.

I think it's based on image scale.. it might have to be over 16x16.

[raven orbit]

it still adds up if you have too many. i don't usually use more than like 5 textures and no more than one or two materials on my avatars

[winter sun]

all i really did was change the body texture, the wrapped tail texture, and the hair

removing two things lowered it to 41.15

so it's prob something i forgot but i dont see anything else to lower the size for

[arctic ginkgo]

try it and see what it says is contributing the most

[naive ferry]

im struggling with contacts can someone make me a simple button contact that toggles an empty when pressed

[proven trellis]

Can I really not have transparent textures on quest avatars?

fucking really?

[naive ferry]

u can

[proven trellis]

With what?

[naive ferry]

use the shader at vrchat -> mobile -> Particles -> Additive

[proven trellis]

Why is it making all of this brighter and making the black invisible T . T

[naive ferry]

use multiple instead of additive then

[raven orbit]

thats how additive works, just like the layer effect in photoshop

[proven trellis]

Why can they not just put alpha options on standard lite?

[naive ferry]

idk

optimization

[proven trellis]

I know that wouldn't be that unperformant.

[raven orbit]

it might be though, like having too many trianlges with the additive/multiply shaders made me lag a fuck ton on mobile

[raven orbit]

i think multiply would work better and this case, and the "transparent" parts of the texture would need to be full white for that. though i think it would be better to just cut out the text and make it non-transparent (up to you i guess)

[cunning swan]

will this actually work for quest side

[raven orbit]

yes. it cuts the mesh to the edges of transparent image. then you dont need any transparency shader

you have to apply the modifiers before export though (it doesn't work well with shape keys though 😔 )

[livid palm]

How to fix????

[cunning swan]

hm will try this with my ghilie suit model i have

[left gull]

does it say security check fail on it?

[livid palm]

No

It doesn’t even show in my uploaded i have to go on the website to put it on

Then when i do its shows a robot

This has been going for like 2 weeks now and i really need help

[cunning swan]

what shader should i use for when i import it to unity

[left gull]

does it happen on multiple Blueprint IDs?

[raven orbit]

idk like standard lite or something, it doesn't really matter what shader it is

[cunning swan]

alright

[livid palm]

Yes i tried reimporting all and clearing the blueprint id and reuploading it and im still having the same issue

[left gull]

id contact support about that then (https://vrch.at/support) that sounds more then an avatar issue if its consistently preventing uploads from registering properly

[obsidian rivet]

is there any reason walk animations won't play in game when walking?, I'm using the generic rig and not humanoid if that has any affect on it

[raven orbit]

that blendtree contains animations that are made for humanoid rigs - they dont affect regular bone transforms. and any animations for a generic rig need to have been made specifically for that rig

[obsidian rivet]

I made a unique animation for mine, do I just have to create/use a different blend tree for generic rigs?

[raven orbit]

yeah, it's not a good idea to include any animations that wont work on your model. You could also choose not to use a blend tree if it suits your case better

[obsidian rivet]

in my case I just need to get the walking animation in and probably just that one, all the tutorials I can find are for humanoid rigs so as for actually getting that animation to work I'm not sure how you go about that for generic rigs

[raven orbit]

for generic rigs you basically need to recreate all the animator logic yourself. take a look into tutorials on animator controllers that are not specific to vrchat, apply that logic using the vrchat parameters https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters

not without knowing literally anything about how your avatar is set up

[obsidian rivet]

this is more of a unity question but is there a way to update an asset version without having to redo all the settings?

[zealous pine]

still need help

[snow tapir]

H ithere has anyone had the issue where shaders would render normally and function normally in desktop and cameras, but in vr, one lens renders the particles in the proper place while the other lens has an offset?

[raven orbit]

depends on what shader is being used, some shaders just dont work in vr as they are

[undone mantle]

How do i make the eyes work properly in unity?
It's fine in blender, and all the normals are correct

[light charm]

it would seem your eyes have their normals inverted, this can be fixed in blender.

[undone mantle]

As i said, the normals are correct in blender

[light charm]

have you tried applying position, rotation and scale? sometimes you need to do that in order to see if an object's normals are flipped

[junior void]

i wonder what material is on the eyes

embedded materials always look like dogsh

[undone mantle]

Yeah, i had some transforms unapplied apparently, i'll try exporting it again, thanks

[undone mantle]

I did that, and it didn't help, so i just flipped the normals for the time being
The UVMaps also seem to be broken lol
Can i check uvmaps in unity somehow?

I kinda got it to work, i had an older UVmap in blender that i forgot to remove
Now it just looks weird
How do i make transparency work with poiyomi? Using 9.2.6

[timber wharf]

@undone mantle for proper rotation without any adjustment eye bones should be perfectly vertical

select render type at very top, opaque by default

[undone mantle]

Yeah, i have it set to additive
It seems to be the only thing that at least kinda works

If i set it to transparent, it just does this

[timber wharf]

uh what is it even supposed to be. are you sure texture got transparency

[undone mantle]

Yeah, i have an alpha map

[timber wharf]

its black...

[undone mantle]

My ColorMap/Normals/Transmission

[undone mantle]

The lense is white, it's at the very bottom in the uvmap

So, it's alpha should be at 1, no?

Or is that not how it works in poi

[timber wharf]

weird that it gets white

should work with transparent/cutout

[undone mantle]

Both transparent/cutout seem to just remove everything other than the lense
So my guess is that poi expects an inverted transparency map?
I'll try that

Yeah, seems to sorta kinda work?
A lot worse than it does in blender, and chunk of the pupil just renders on top of everything else too lol

Cutout seems to fix that

[timber wharf]

for shine use other properties

like smoothness

and theres also clearcoat fx for extra

also feels like your normal map is not 'fixed' yet

[undone mantle]

That's pretty neat, thanks

Btw, where can i plug in a roughness map

[junior void]

under reflections and specular iirc

expand the map input dropdown

[undone mantle]

Thanks

Can i somehow do this effect blender has, so it kinda projects the eye insides onto the lense, instead of just letting light pass through?

[misty hemlock]

I had another UVmap masked in blender indeed ! thanks a lot for ur help @arctic ginkgo @somber sequoia

[timid terrace]

I made a video specifically about compressing textures for Quest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSiQuB9tP2Y

[undone mantle]

How do i fix these? I have all the bones mapped?

[timid terrace]

Try in the rig setting, down left, reset and the enforce t-pose

[undone mantle]

Did that, didn't seem to do anything

All the errors are still there

[timid terrace]

Do you have the avatar in the animator in the avatar slot ?

[undone mantle]

Yep

[timid terrace]

Also are you sure "avi" is the right bone for hips ?

[undone mantle]

Doesn't seem right
Changed it to the actual hip bone, it for some reason created another bone, instead of just picking hips?
EIther way, that's fixed now, but the issues are still there

[timid terrace]

And you are sure this is the right avatar selected in the SDK

[pliant wasp]

help please

i just got my first fbt trackers but i'm struggling on adapting my avatar to look good with it
for some reason, when i put my foot back, my leg gets fully stretched, i tought it was a limitation of my trackers but then i found a avatar that doesn't have this behaviour, my legs don't get stretched with the exact same pose
i asked the author if he could give the fbx to me so i can replicate the rigging and proportions, and so i did
but it didn't fixed the issue 💀
same rigging, fbx well configured, using the same animators (gogoloco), but different behavior

[timid terrace]

Can you post a screenshot of the whole window when you are editing the right setting and also your console if there are any errors

[misty hemlock]

how much time does it take to be able to upload avatars ?

[robust sigil]

Hey can someone with alot of patients help me out with an avatar. I'm on an old 2007 MacBook pro running windows 10 so it takes ages to do anything and also I'm a total noob. I have a little knowledge

[undone mantle]

It is the correct avatar selected in sdk

[radiant void]

When importing an avatar into (fbx filetype) unity from blender, model doesn't appear. I assume this is because of the FBX export settings?

[undone mantle]

It's not supposed to just appear, you drag it into the scene from assets (panel at the bottom)

[radiant void]

As in, I have set up the avatar already, already has a skinned mesh renderer

the Fbx mesh itself doesn't appear in the scene after edits in blender

[undone mantle]

That's weird
Are you sure you have the mesh visible in blender?

[radiant void]

Lmao
how else would I see it

[timid terrace]

Scroll the SDK up

[undone mantle]

Idk lol
I usually turn off everything non essential when exporting

[timid terrace]

You have a different avatar selected

[radiant void]

does anyone knowlegeable have an answer?
I can't seem to find fbx export settings which work

[undone mantle]

It doesn't give me any other options tho??

I just hit the "select this avatar in sdk" button, so it should work?

Weird

[timid terrace]

Oh

[timid terrace]

You have the avatar descriptor on the armature, not the avatar itself, that's the problem

You need to put it on this one

[undone mantle]

Can i move it somehow?

[timid terrace]

You can copy the properties and then paste them

You can copy properties in these

[undone mantle]

That worked, thanks <3

Everything seems to work now

[timid terrace]

No problem

[south agate]

hiya. i have my avatar descriptor set up with blendshape visemes on the correct mesh, but they don't seem to work in vrchat itself. i have been making weird noises into my mic for about 5 minutes but the face remains static. i've tested in unity with gesturemanager and everything seems to work fine. i'm not really sure what to try now

[timber wharf]

all slots should be populated, creatr empty blendshape for sil

[south agate]

ah okay, thank you

worked! amazing

[misty musk]

left is unity right is blender why is tex black on unity 😭

[misty hemlock]

Hello guys, do you know how long it does take to be able to upload avatars and worlds ?.. I really need to make it work today somehow. I played a little, added some friends and got VRC+

[ornate stump]

#vrchat-general-1 message

[misty hemlock]

Thanks ! It answers a bit and gives me a time approximation. Maybe this wasnt the best channel to ask this too, my bad, thanks anyway for your answer

[misty musk]

boost

[ornate stump]

Are you using vrchat mobile shader?

[misty musk]

ye toonlit

[misty musk]

^ forgot to ping

ok it works on lightmapped aa

[ornate stump]

mobile shaders make vertex color show up. If you don't need vertex color then remove color attribute from object in blender.

[misty musk]

ik it has visimes in blender but its not showing up in unity again aa

[ornate stump]

If the object had unapplied modifier other than armature deform, this will make object shapekey unable to export.

[misty musk]

wdym? like remove the unused shapekeys??

[ornate stump]

No.

Problem
object had unapplied modifier

Solution
Do something about that modifier.

[misty musk]

wdym???? like this??

[misty musk]

or

os it something else

[ornate stump]

That.

[ivory whale]

for me after less than a week, I still was New User - also adding friends will not increase your trust rank - you need them to add you

[ivory whale]

to apply modifers press the arrow down at the modifier header and click "Apply"

[final yew]

Trying to add a rigidbody to an asset, for some reason it keeps moving in the -X direction in game but not during Unity testing

Freezing the X on the rigidbody fixes this but I’m trying to make something throwable that I can pick back up (so it can’t be a particle).

There is a hand constraint on the rigidbody while it is being thrown.

Any common reason for this happening?

[misty hemlock]

I got it thanks a lot !

[somber sequoia]

excellent!

[void kettle]

How do I fix this?

[naive ferry]

im struggling with contacts can someone make me a simple button contact that toggles an empty when pressed

[tranquil niche]

Ok, so update to this, I just realized I hadn’t been saving like I thought I had been, I was only saving the scene, and so now I’ve just scrapped it and opened a new project and want to follow this tutorial https://youtu.be/xOGc8CetyXs?si=WCEQHHKwNXeIzspj however, is there REALLY no way to “save as” in unity?

[somber sequoia]

what are you trying to save?

save as works for scenes just fine

[pseudo crag]

Never had this much textures for one material before.

Some of them even go to the same slot

what do I do?

[somber sequoia]

the numbers on those suggest they're UV tiles... does the avatar creator have any instruction or sample material?

[pseudo crag]

No

He told on the model to figure it out

[raven orbit]

last time i had udims on a model i had to manually separate the materials in blender

[pseudo crag]

Because this is a blend file

I merely exported it with auto rig pro

and it's a lifesaver

[somber sequoia]

yeah probably this is going to be a bunch of work to get into a form for Unity

[pseudo crag]

Dang

[pseudo crag]

I have freetime

[somber sequoia]

I'd probably try to atlas those manually, rather than split into separate materials. Or bake to a combined UV map.

obviously this is just speculation without actually looking closely at it

[pseudo crag]

mmm

[pseudo crag]

What's atlasing?

I can bake though

I think I got an add on in blender for it

[somber sequoia]

SimpleBake is great, though not free. Atlasing is like this but you just split the UV map into square sections so it's easier to combine the textures

[pseudo crag]

That's the one I have

Do I have to re-do everything though

Or can I just save this unity project and go back to it after baking to a combined uv map

[somber sequoia]

I'm absolutely guessing based only on the numbers in the names of those texture files, you'd have to investigate this to be sure

[pseudo crag]

I will

It's past midnight though so I'll look into it tomorrow

While I figure that out I'll upload the black suit version of the other one I did before this

[tranquil niche]

When I loaded my older scenes, nothing reverted itself in my animator tab

[somber sequoia]

animators are separate files, not part of the scene

[tranquil niche]

As somewhat of a newbie, I can’t say that makes too much sense to me

[somber sequoia]

okay. But it's how unity works.

[tranquil niche]

Would just copying the entire project work for that?

[somber sequoia]

or you could just copy the animator

it's just a file on disk

as are animations, menus, parameter files, materials, etc., etc.

anything that's in your Project window is a file on disk and saved separately from the scene

(scenes can contain overrides of prefab settings though...)

[tranquil niche]

Hmm, I’ll have to take a look at doing that when I get home from work, but that sounds like it could work

[robust sigil]

So I added bottle of stars and pointless's ghost to my avatar. I got them aligned with my avatar and uploaded it. However I do not see their expressions in the expression menu nor do I see them on my avatar. What am I supposed to do?

[junior void]

you added what

you cant expect us to know what those are 🥴

[robust sigil]

Bottle of stars is an asset that gives you a bottle and you open it. It surrounds you with stars. Pointless's ghost is just the ghost from destiny with some cool features. Its attached to my avatar. I drug them to my core folder thing lined them up with my avatar and uploaded them but I can't use them for some reason and they aren't on my expressions wheel

[somber sequoia]

did you add a menu item for this?

[junior void]

Did you follow installation instructions and dependency installs?

[robust sigil]

They have menu items in their folder but idk what to do with them

Yeah I followed their instructions

[somber sequoia]

a wild guess: add the asset's menu as a submenu on your avatar's menu setup somewhere

[robust sigil]

Both of them said fury would do the rest but it seems it has not lol

I can try that but I don't know how that works

My thinking since my avatars main wheel is full it tried to put the folders in there but couldn't do I might need to move some stuff around/:

[left gull]

i mean you could contact each creator either directly/in their discord server (if they have one) if its supposed to just work instantly with vrcfury it might be something broken/wrong with their package or installation guide they should be informed about

[junior void]

I think i have a general idea now

[robust sigil]

The one for bottle of stars I don't know how to reach yet and the one for the ghost is taking a while to get back to me. I'm not in any sort of rush so I don't mind but I figured id try and reach out to others who may know what to do

[junior void]

If you want the menu to be installed not in the root, bc its full for example, you must specify the menu path in the vrcfury component

[robust sigil]

How would I do that

[junior void]

i assume you added the menu manually and its not going there, cuz thats not how vrcfury works

[robust sigil]

I haven't added any menus the menus it has came with the unity folder I drug into assets

[junior void]

Heres an example of the path on a vrcfury toggle

you can define paths that already exist on your avi

so if you have "Clothes" already, you can add that and the toggle will go into it

[robust sigil]

Where is that menu-

[junior void]

VRCFury components are usually on prefabs

I assume you dragged something from assets to your avi

Look at that, on your avatar

It may also be a full controller like here

[robust sigil]

For the 2 assets I don't see one that says toggle

[junior void]

it depends what the creator used

[robust sigil]

Yeah I have controller

[junior void]

read the text in the center then about menu prefix

[naive ferry]

how do i make it so other people can pull phys bones?

[somber sequoia]

enable collision and and grabbing, should be pretty obvious in the physbone component

[junior void]

also set a radius

[naive ferry]

i can grab it but other people cant for somereason

[somber sequoia]

make sure grabbing set to True or if "other" that "allow others" is set

[naive ferry]

thx

[robust sigil]

So there are a lot of errors- one problem I just fixed. Apparently I didn't put them in the root but I moved them and auto fixed that error. The other errors look to be built in warnings like "if you want to reuse the bottle change this setting but this may break this" so I'll give it another shot and see what else I need to fix

How do I fix avatar is out of space for parameters

[junior void]

you have too many things installed on your avatar in that case. Anything that has functionality or is toggles because both use parameters to drive thewir states like shoesEnabled etc

you can give this https://vrcfury.com/components/other#parameter-compressor-beta a try but ive never used it

Alternatively, optimize your parameters by hand, granted you know how to do that or just delete stuff

[robust sigil]

Imma try the optimization bc I don't wanna delete anything yet

[near adder]

Hello, I'm new to VRC avatar making. I want to add a custom gesture toggle (Specifically, if I place my avatar's hand over my mouth bit) that toggles a mask. How do I do that? The videos I saw around in youtube uses the base VRC gestures so I was wondering if this was possible?

[junior void]

I'd use a contact receiver and a contact sender, one placed on your hand, the other placed on your face that drive a boolean to toggle the mask state (on off). I guess you can combine that with a gesture as condition, say contacts are touching and gesture equals whatever, then toggle

[near adder]

Is there a video I can reference? I kinda get confused with menu stuff since I'm new to these kinds of things as well.

[junior void]

menu stuff?

anyway, you could watch a boop tutorial. As long as they are using contacts to toggle or trigger something, thats your start

you can always add the gesture condition later

[spark walrus]

👆 that's awesome to know

I'm having problem with my friend's avatar who's tongue shoots out of the mouth 😆
any ideas how to fix this? 🙃

[near adder]

Thank you, I found a video by PxINKY and have set it aside for reference material!

[junior void]

i myself use contacts attached to spine and chest (sender x receiver) to "detect" when a user is bending forward. This drives a float which makes a blendshape activate more or less depending on the bending they do

[spark walrus]

yeee - PxINKY is the GOAT with this stuff. Great channel for learning

[near adder]

I get it a bit now, I'll search a bit more how to make it so I can only be the one to toggle it. Or maybe I can just reduce the proximity's size to be just by my avatar's mouth so nobody else can toggle it.

[junior void]

you can set contacts to "allow others" or "allow self"

not ticking allow others will do just that

[near adder]

Oh, okay okay. Thank you again for the help!

[robust sigil]

@junior voidthank you so much for your help! i got everything working exactly as it should and loaded in the game!!! the avatar looks amazing but sadly i dont have a pc that works at higher than 12 fps on low quality or id show you the pc version of the avi the most i can do is send a picture of the quest version.

[cunning swan]

alright so my ghillie suit disappeared

[viral epoch]

sdk doesnt show up, error when ever i open the projet

[somber sequoia]

probably don't have all packages up to date, and there are small conflicts

[balmy barn]

disable error pause, its your av3 thats doing something with gesturemanager (id just delete it and try again) , scripts can fail first time so its always 'have you tried turning it off and on again'

[raven orbit]

in blender? you have to make sure the geometry nodes are set up right. you can adjust some individual values like setting greater than threshold to 0. you also have to make sure that the correct texture is and the uv map are selected. I would also HIGHLY suggest isolating and separating the specific part that needs to be cutout from the rest of the mesh (btw the blue section in the image i sent is optional)

[viral epoch]

animations not working

[somber meadow]

what Unity version are you using (says on the window title of the project)

[proven trellis]

Is there anyway to color particle materials using VRChat/Mobile/Particles/Additive or Multiply

?

[somber meadow]

Are these animation files that you're making or from an existing package?

[viral epoch]

making

[raven orbit]

the color comes from the texture on those materials?

[proven trellis]

So I can't put a custom albedo color over them? God.. this is SO fucking limited.

[raven orbit]

why can't you just change the texture 🤨

[proven trellis]

I'm using a thing that has white textures that are just colored per 1 of the 5 things

[somber meadow]

particle systems have a "start color" field

[proven trellis]

it's made for PC and I was gonna attempt to put it on quest but

I forgot that the quest literally can not do shit

[somber meadow]

usually particle shaders don't have basecolor settings as it's handled through the particle system component

[night ember]

the particle itself?

[proven trellis]

the particle material

[night ember]

yea you use the particle itself

you arent really meant to use the material to mess with the color

[raven orbit]

-# i didn't know that, thanks for correcting that for me

[night ember]

there is several settings related to how its colored in the particle itself

[viral epoch]

cant enter playmode

[balmy barn]

1. what unity version is this

[balmy barn]

did you import those files after putting it in a newer unity , going newer is fine - going back versions will cause issues , you can just nuke the .meta files to refresh

[viral epoch]

ill try

[crystal kernel]

what settings in a phybone should i take care of for breast physics?

[golden bluff]

i just bought a waist chain and applied vrc physbone scripts and cannot get the singular bones to do anything. Advice?

[azure citrus]

Hey Guys, im trying to do facial expression blendshapes with hand gestures

I copied the default hand fx layer and added my animation to the peace gesture

and the animation works completely fine as i can tell in unity

but in game i still have the default hand gestures with no expressions

is there something I'm missing?

i've tried other animations and the same thing happens

and ofc I set it as my fx layer

didn't work as the gesture layer either just in case

[balmy barn]

if your eyebones set in humanoid rig you need to set tracking control (=animation) to animate them , otherwise im not sure whats the difference

[azure citrus]

i have separate bones to rotate, and wouldn't the blendshape still work?

[balmy barn]

they would

[azure citrus]

so the animation isnt loading

and the fx controller is being loaded since my hue shift still works

[torpid flame]

Has anyone that uses standard shader figured why using fade for brows and lashes does this?

It makes it seethru in worlds

[somber meadow]

is the face included in that eyebrow material?

[torpid flame]

The brows are apart of the mesh yes

[somber meadow]

mesh doesn't matter, if they're the same material that'll be an issue as it's in the same pass

[raven orbit]

a mesh and a material are different things

[torpid flame]

The whole mesh is connected

[viral epoch]

help pls

[torpid flame]

head,body and brows

[somber meadow]

can you screenshot the list of materials

[raven orbit]

those are absolutely not the same material 💀

[torpid flame]

Behind any light source

[somber meadow]

what shader is the face and eyebrows using

[torpid flame]

its all standard

brows are fade

[raven orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvaoZJmjENs

[torpid flame]

Not using poi though

poi fixes it

but

i want to use standard

[somber meadow]

You can make poiyomi look like standard if you want

[torpid flame]

Ive tried

many times

[raven orbit]

is there no render que option for standard

[torpid flame]

In unity its fine

[somber meadow]

and what goes wrong

[torpid flame]

but in game

[raven orbit]

the video is more than about poi, it explains why this problem happens in the first place, which might* be able to be applied to other shaders

[torpid flame]

it does that see thru thing

[torpid flame]

It comes close but its never as spot on

[somber meadow]

Pretty sure Poiyomi has a preset for it, have you already looked for it?

[torpid flame]

Its called realistic

[somber meadow]

that's the shading

go into the light data tab, there should be "Standardish" settings

[torpid flame]

poi

using standard light data

[raven orbit]

thats not the brows or lashes though, so what does that have to do with changing the material on the lashes?

[torpid flame]

True

No idea

In unity its fine

In game it shines thru

behind any light source

[raven orbit]

yeah we get that, we've already suggested a solution

[torpid flame]

Make it all one material?

[raven orbit]

we said to do literally the opposite of that 😭

[spark walrus]

Is there some easy fix for this? I bought this avi of gumroad and can’t even upload it

[raven orbit]

if it was advertised as being quest compatible then i'd consider that a scam ngl. it may have been put up for sale before the 10mb size limit was enforced though. I wouldn't say there's an "easy" fix for optimization but reducing the max quality of all the textures might work. there's also other tutorials online for what else you can do

[balmy barn]

363k 'android' sure you have the right avatar activated ?

[spark walrus]

Yeah

[raven orbit]

yeah kinda looks like a pc avatar... those starts are insane for android

[balmy barn]

nuke it from orbit and leave a negative on whoever said thats quest compitable

[spark walrus]

Is there any way to fix it? I paid 35 bucks I better get the damn thing

Turn down shader quality?

[balmy barn]

could be some prefab/slop on it thats massive you can remove , seen rings in the 100k's

[spark walrus]

Like if I remove a couple toggles or smth?

[balmy barn]

people who make avatars in 100k'+ usually just slap on different stuff in unity

got to dig around to see if there is one you can remove, hard to guess what that is without having it

[raven orbit]

there's optimization tutorials on youtube but reducing something like that takes a lot of work. it's not feasible to list out everything you could do, it would be quicker to start googling

[spark walrus]

They also gave me an authentication key do I just keep that for myself or do I put it somewhere?

[spark walrus]

Ight

[left snow]

Has anyone used "Freeze to World" in VRC Constraint?

After enabling "Rebake Offsets When Unfrozen,"
I tried the following steps to change the target transform while keeping the object's position:

1. World On -> Position to A -> World Off
2. World On -> Position to B -> World Off

However, it doesn't seem to work as expected. Any ideas?

The animation "X", which changes the position,
is recorded over 3 frames as follows:
World On -> Position to A -> World Off.

In the FX Layer, the structure is:
World On animation -> X -> Mirrored X -> World On animation.

Does anyone know why this might not be working?

As expected, the object's position should remain unchanged even when the target source is switched to another.
However, the object moves to a specific position every time the target changes.

[somber sequoia]

if you actually paid for a 363k poly quest avatar, that seems bordering on scam to me

at the least it's negligence

[spark walrus]

I bought it from someone my friend bought an avi from and the one he bought had no issues

It’s been an hour and it’s only dropped from 12.56 to 12.45 mbs

[tranquil niche]

hey all, would this be considered screwed up?

Notice how in the preview source state, every gesture is transferring from peace?

[raven orbit]

that's normal, when it has to preview a transition from any state it just picks one of the other states. I believe you can change it too

[tranquil niche]

sorry, not preview source state, the thing under it

every timeline says peace

or is what you said still true for that?

[raven orbit]

hey.. i think i know what was causing the spazzing issue now. the fist has the grabbed parameter as true, which results in a double positive (it constantly switches between both)

[raven orbit]

yes, the preview source state determines what initial state is visible from that timeline

[candid osprey]

Verrrrrrrrry roughly, how far in any measurement is an audio source distance at 500?

For the 3d sound settings

[raven orbit]

500m i think

[tranquil niche]

We’ll give her a test

[tranquil niche]

it stopped spazzing

[raven orbit]

epic

[tranquil niche]

however......

it seems that my custom animation goes away unless i hold the controlers buttons

actually, a video would do more justice here

[raven orbit]

🤔 now that i think about it, the transition to the custom animation probably doesn't even need the gesture condition

[tranquil niche]

so just get rid of that guy?

[raven orbit]

yeah

[tranquil niche]

ok, we are sooooo close

it works mostly as intended, however the spazzing will start up again if i touch either one of my triggers

[raven orbit]

what's the transition to idle look like?

[tranquil niche]

but it does stop spazzing when i take my fingers off of the trigger

[crude plank]

I need someone to please help me fix my radial menu. I'm adding assets for the first time to my first avi and have no idea what I'm doing.

[tranquil niche]

ooooooh this is an issue i might actually be able to help with

what are you trying to add to your menu?

[crude plank]

Ike hud

[tranquil niche]

like your ggesturewheel?

[crude plank]

ye

[tranquil niche]

can you send me a screenshot of your inspector tab after you've selected your avi in the hierarchy?

[somber sequoia]

looping the grab animation probably - anystate transition to self on, or loop checked on the animation?

[tranquil niche]

Loop time is off for all of the animations in use, at least the custom ones i made, and we've also unchecked transition to self on just about everything

[somber sequoia]

hmm

watch that animator while doing the action, it's got to be looping somehow

bogus transition out of the state maybe

[raven orbit]

what the the transition to idle look like? sorry to ask twice im not sure you saw my question before

[tranquil niche]

oooohhhhhh i thought you meant in game

[crude plank]

IDK how to take a screenshot outside steam

[tranquil niche]

windows key + shift + s

[raven orbit]

if there's a prt sc (print screen) button on your keyboard, that screenshots too

[tranquil niche]

though i'm not too sure i know what you mean by transition to idle, i'm gonna take a guess and assume it looks like this?

[somber sequoia]

the hand grab animation isn't in FX, so show us the gesture one

.... it shouldn't be anyway

[raven orbit]

the state really should be called neutral i guess cause that's what the gesture is called in the documentation

[tranquil niche]

right here then!

does the zero need to be a 1?

[crude plank]

@tranquil niche can you do dm's?

[raven orbit]

it needs the nike am grabbed false as well, keep gesture at 0

[tranquil niche]

ahhhh, i see

uploading now!

It workkkkks!

hollllyyyy mooollylyy

[somber meadow]

Btw never take DMs from people acting like they'll help with issues here as it's 95% a scam, there's always people here that will help directly in this channel

[tranquil niche]

oh my gooooshhh thank you allllll!

[crude plank]

thanks for the advice, idk if there is info i need to kee private on the screen they asked me for

[tranquil niche]

but if you do grab a screenshot of the inspector feel free to @ me

[crude plank]

i did

[tranquil niche]

Click on "add component"

actually, no, just drop down the arrow that says playable layers

[crude plank]

ok

@tranquil niche

[tranquil niche]

ah, so that's all correct

then under it do you have something like this?

[tranquil niche]

YES!

so you'll want to click on that top thing "KitsuneM (VRC Expressions Menu)"

or, i guess double click it

[crude plank]

is this it?

[tranquil niche]

Yes, and no XD

i'm trying to send a screenshot of my avi but it's taking me a sec

my avatar isn't the best example because i've bought something that makes mine work a tad differently

[crude plank]

vrc fury?

[tranquil niche]

i'm trying to get it fixed up so that it is

no, it has nothing to do with VRC Fury

[crude plank]

ah

[tranquil niche]

well, i've just fixed it so, here!

This

Equals

This

[crude plank]

i do not understand

how do i get it to show up in my radial menu

[raven orbit]

add it to the menu

[tranquil niche]

you'll double click KitsuneM here to get to here

[gentle brook]

why is it not recognizing the vicemes? they exist in blender but they dont in unity

[crude plank]

okay, i think our menus just look a bit different

lemme try something

[somber sequoia]

these pics are from the latest VRC SDK too, if you have an earlier one they may look a little different

[tranquil niche]

can i see what your inspector looks like when you doubleclick KitsuneM?

[raven orbit]

check that the blendshapes are still on the mesh in unity. blendshapes can be removed from the mesh on export if it has any unapplied modifiers in blender

[somber sequoia]

do any blendshapes exist? If not, perhaps you exported from Blender with an un-applied modifier on one of the mesh objects, such as subdivision

Neiryl seems to be typing faster than me this evening 🙂

[gentle brook]

this is how i export them

[raven orbit]

😼

[somber sequoia]

good but not what we're asking about

[gentle brook]

also its only 1 mesh

[somber sequoia]

Does it have an un-applied modifier?

[gentle brook]

how do i check

oh nevermind yea it does

[somber sequoia]

apply that

[raven orbit]

might need this https://github.com/przemir/ApplyModifierForObjectWithShapeKeys

[somber sequoia]

one of the best blender scripts

[gentle brook]

ill just go the long way around and apply them then remake the shapes

[tranquil niche]

hey all, can you guys watch the first minute of this video and tell me which method (1 or 2) I should use for my shoes? I just don't know how "attached" to my avatar they are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVtQ3vn1ROk

[raven orbit]

it would be the armature way, and you'll be able to use the parent constraints you already have for this

[tranquil niche]

NOice

[crude plank]

@tranquil niche can you joinin one of the vcs to tell me wat im doing wrong

[left gull]

theres no VCs in this server

[crude plank]

really?

huh,

didnt notice

[tranquil niche]

I see the way he's doing this is with toggles, though ideally i'd want to just let go of the thing and have it fall, so now i'm a bit clueless

his world drops also just float in mid air

[raven orbit]

i think i know a way this can be done, i can try to write out an explanation but it might take a while.

[wicked helm]

So like anyone know how to fix this i just bought the avi and im trying to figure it out when i press auto fix my toggles dosnt work and the same with the skip one

[somber sequoia]

you may need to investigate how those toggles are set up, if they're using WD on or off

[wicked helm]

well is it suppose to be on or off im confused xD?

[somber sequoia]

it's supposed to be whichever way you or the creator prefers

[wicked helm]

huh o.o

toggles isent my thing xD ngl xD

[tranquil niche]

take your time! i'm thankful to have someone helping me with it at all!

[civic cliff]

first time using blender, originally when i imported this model the entire armature was at a 90 degree angle and i managed to figure out how to move it back with cats plugin, however, the hair is still stuck and the avatar doesn't seem to have a face, i just want to edit the blend shapes a little bit so i need the face lol

this is a selestia btw

[misty hemlock]

hey guys, SDK is telling me that I have way too much vertices, but I think my character model is normal, not too high poly ? do you have an idea to solve this ? ty

[left gull]

if you read the error it says that you should go under 20k but you're currently at 33k-ish

honestly it wont prevent upload and isnt too bad for quest so it could be ignored it'll just be very poor ranked

[misty hemlock]

I dont need it to be ranked I just need to be able to play it with a vr set, but unity won’t let me upload it for android with this config 😦

[dark creek]

I did the moddling and everything except rigging

I'm not sure if I should parent everything together

join, or add it bit by bit into unity

[raven orbit]

definitely should be all together

[dark creek]

I plan to have the character toggle these [orange, notification sign, searching, alerted, caring, and pillow prop]

[raven orbit]

there's a lot of ways you can do that. I can't give you any specific answer as to what you should join, because you'd need to pick the toggle method yourself and build the proper setup for it

[dark creek]

her booty might be too big

[somber sequoia]

baby got back?

[heavy ledge]

I just got vr chat and why is everyone just a grey diamond I can’t see there avatar I can’t hear them I tried the trust thing I don’t know what to do

[abstract mulch]

Check your settings

[abstract mulch]

You probably have some safety feature on

[gilded smelt]

why wont it let me publish?

[heavy ledge]

What kind of setting

[simple adder]

Why is my avatar giving "Security checks failed"?

[abstract mulch]

Idk im bad at this stuff but ive had that problem before

I think its and issue in your settings

[raven orbit]

it says what you need to do in this screenshot...

[fallen cobalt]

I have some avatar audio that's supposed to be a specific size relative to my body, but I've been told that it does not automatically increase the audio source distance when you scale the avatar up, and I need to set up an animation to handle that bit... is there a tutorial or something I can look at that helps explain how to make animations that make things scale alongside your avatar scale settings?

[left gull]

then theres gotta be something else in the list thats preventing the upload since what you've shown doesnt prevent it

[simple adder]

Idk what to do. I optimized my avatar well for Quest, but it's giving this error for PC.

[cold palm]

I wonder if you could use the float parameter used for the avatar scaling ? There is one but since its in game and not in ur avatar directly im not sure

[cold palm]

Change upload platform to windows after setting up the avi for quest so its available on both platforms

[raven orbit]

i agree with miku, i used 'ScaleFactor' for an avatar with scaling functionality before

[simple adder]

I've already set it to "Windows, Mac, Linux". Do I have to explicitly set it to Windows?

[cold palm]

I know when i setup my avatar for quest i switch to android, set it up, switch back to windows and then upload

Otherwise its quest only

[gilded smelt]

again i ask, why wont it let me [ublish>?

[raven orbit]

it says it in the screenshot man read it

[gilded smelt]

i have the name set and thumbnail

[raven orbit]

oh mb

[cold palm]

Huh, screenshot?

[raven orbit]

we aren't gonna know why this is happening if you don't share any more info, but at a guess, try switching to another build target and back, or restart unity

[gilded smelt]

i fixed it...dont know how

[dry ibex]

why wont the bracelet properly attach to the arm when i move the bones? im using armature modifer and i weightpainted it

[night ember]

you probably have it weightpainted to multiple bones

[dry ibex]

I dont think so leme check rq

NVM THANK YOU SM,, i didnt even weightrpaint it to the right arm but it said i did wtf?? but thank you

[remote jasper]

does anyone else keep having this problem? i keep getting it over and over again and i seem to cant fix it :< lmk if someone could help me w this

[cold palm]

Only time i had these kind of issues was when i was using an out of date creator companion which led to everything else being out of date

If this can even help

[remote jasper]

ohh oki but i used the one thats up to dae on the vrchat website but it still wont upload anything

[cold palm]

Which unity version u got ? To double check

Cause ik the installations weird sometimes

[remote jasper]

the current one 2022.3.22f1

[cold palm]

Thats weird

[remote jasper]

ikr

ive tried everything but nothing seems to work at all

reinstalled unity made a new project got a vpn nothing

[cold palm]

Try to update the vrcsdk in the creator companion in your asset manager thingy tab

If already updated try to downgrade it?

Just trying to guess

[remote jasper]

hmm lemme see if i can find it

[cold palm]

I think its on manage project button i believe? Not on pc so cant provide ss lol

[remote jasper]

ohh thats okai ima try downgrading it and see if it changes anything

[cold palm]

Hopefully it does

[remote jasper]

downgraed it once and tried to reupload didnt work im gonna try going lower

nope didnt work

i dont get it?

[cold palm]

Yeah i dont have any more ideas sadly lol

Does that on every avatar i assume?

[remote jasper]

yeah every single one when i try to make a new one

[cold palm]

Hmm you could maybe try uninstalling the sdk and do a manual installation ?

If not idk

[remote jasper]

hmm lemme see

[simple adder]

Ok, explicitly setting it to windows solved it

[cold palm]

Nice 👍

[remote jasper]

still dosent work

vrchat and unity hates me atp

[cold palm]

I have no idea what could be wrong lol sorry i cant help more

[remote jasper]

its okai ty for helping me though

[ornate stump]

Failed to upload often causes by avatar thumbnail is unable to upload or process. Try changing image to be smaller or capture from the scene.

[remote jasper]

okai ima try that

omg tysm it worked

[sharp crater]

Anyone have the helldivers salute as a unity animation clip?

[dusty brook]

Hello, I hope this finds you well.
I'm trying to upload an avatar, and it's giving me these errors.

Error Message:
Images used for Actions & Moods are too large.
UnityEngine.Debug:LogError (object)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<>cDisplayClass106_0/<<Build>b2>d:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2187)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder:SetException (System.Exception)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<CheckAvatarForValidationIssues>d169:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2638)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder`1<System.Exception>:SetResult (System.Exception)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<HandleBuildError>d108:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2290)
System.Runtime.CompilerServices.AsyncTaskMethodBuilder:SetResult ()
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<FinishBuild>d107:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2280)
UnityEditor.BuildPipeline:BuildAssetBundles (string,UnityEditor.AssetBundleBuild[],UnityEditor.BuildAssetBundleOptions,UnityEditor.BuildTarget)
VRC.SDK3.Builder.VRCAvatarBuilder:ExportCurrentAvatarResource (UnityEngine.Object,bool,bool,string&,System.Action1<string>,System.Action1<object>)
VRC.SDK3.Builder.VRCAvatarBuilder:ExportAvatarBlueprint (UnityEngine.GameObject)
VRC.SDK3A.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder/<Build>d106:MoveNext () (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Editor/VRCSDK/SDK3A/VRCSdkControlPanelAvatarBuilder.cs:2239)
UnityEngine.UnitySynchronizationContext:ExecuteTasks ()

Does anyone have a solution?
I really appreciate any help

[misty musk]

it cant find a armature even tho the avi has an armature

[raven orbit]

Show if there's errors in the build menu (above first image), i think there's an auto fix button for this issue but it's possible im also mistaken over what the issue is

[raven orbit]

You have to manually choose the correct bones in this case. And Hips should not be set to "Armature" nor should spine be set to "Hips"

[misty musk]

thats what i figured but i was hoping there'd be an easeier method 😭

[raven orbit]

Unfortunately not. I really wish unity would auto assign them based on the bone names, but they instead check the weights of model itself and assign based on that. The result is it just doesn't bother assigning anything on bones that have no weight, which is a big issue for models that deviate significantly from a standard humanoid form while wanting to retain humanoid animations in vrchat

[dusty brook]

Thanks so much for the suggestion, I did the auto fix already, but unfortunately it didn't work

[misty musk]

i tried to apply modifiers but it wants no shapekeys 😔 wtf do i do

[raven orbit]

Ohh i linked a blender plugin here for this, i'll scroll up and reply to it so you can see it

[raven orbit]

.

[dusty brook]

@raven orbit I got it to work, thanks so much, it was a menu file size issue

[raven orbit]

I'm glad you got it working!

[dusty brook]

Me too, it's such a relief, thanks so much

[shut plover]

i really need help with an avi

how do i default her clothes on? no matter what i tried everytime i reload the avi she is butt ass naked and while this is a pretty soft issue since i can just avoid reloading her in public spaces the real issue comes if certain players is not showing my avi SHE SHOWS COMPLETELY NAKED FOR THEM
i really need help with this i can't really take her anywhere until i fix this

i tried toggling on the clothes in unity and still defaults to nude

[misty musk]

i added it to blender but it still gives me the same error when i try to apply, do i need to do something else to get it to work??

[raven orbit]

It's difficult to know what exactly might be causing this without knowing more about the setup of the avatar, but you should be able to set the default toggles by changing the default values of your avatars parameters

[raven orbit]

How are you trying to apply it? the plugin has it's own button for applying modifiers. I forget which menu it's located under but it might also be visible from the toolbar on the left

[misty musk]

ohhh

i was trying to click the apply button

[raven orbit]

Yeah, im not sure blender plugins are able to modify the functions of default UI elements like that 😔

[shut plover]

would reverting some clothing toggles really work? i thought about it but wasnt sure it would actually be effective
now of course it would fix the reload avatar issue but would it fix the issue where if someone is not showing the avi she appears nude?

[raven orbit]

I don't know what you mean by "reverting toggles," i just suggested changing the default state of the parameters. I can't guarantee it would be effective or not because i know nothing about how your toggles or animator layers are set up

[zealous pine]

trying to install vrclens to my avi but even after all the tutorials i watch nothing acutally works and when I test it, nothing shows up even though i did everything properly. anybody know whats up? (im using version 1.9.2)

[misty musk]

in blender its weightpainted but then in vrc how do i fix this? im assuming its a unity issue

[shut plover]

i use av3 toggle creator it would be toggle on by default

[misty musk]

like for some reaons on unity it connects it to the hips

[warm heron]

If I put my model into unity will it give it its own rig or do I gotta make my own rig

[timber wharf]

you only map existing rig so unity understands what head and what legs

model already must have proper rig/weghtpainting

[outer mantle]

i forgot how to make swap toggle wheels help

[left gull]

what type of toggle?

[outer mantle]

scroll swap skin texture

[left gull]

like a radial material swap?

[outer mantle]

ya

[timber wharf]

@outer mantle #avatar-help message

[outer mantle]

ayo thank you

that doesnt explain how they got to that point tho

i need like step by step

i completely forgot i know its within the parameters but im afraid to touch it cuz i dont wanna mess it up lol

[shut plover]

any way i can cut the physbones? for some reason it's far too long

[misty musk]

is anyone familiar with hoyotoon? when i lock the shader on this mat it turns pink what do i do to stop this

[junior void]

may be _end bones. easy to delete in blender

[junior void]

try their discord or make an issue on their github

[misty musk]

their discord isnt for vrc avis 😔

and i think its a usererror cus its using an edited tex

so i think i did something wrong

bc it worked before

[misty musk]

ok

[shut plover]

yeah seems like ill have to edit it in blender, not an issue because i made this model in blender i just wanted to be lazy

[solar mason]

Hey, im making an avatar in vroid, and i was wondering if anyone knows how i could get the skin texture to be better quality, like classic vrchat egirl typ skin, is it even the texture or the material shader? Honestly not sure

[timber wharf]

@shut plover add first useless bone to ignore transforms

[left gull]

its a mix of both, you could purchase/grab a free texture used on one of the e-girl faces/bodies to get an idea of how the texture is but for the material its usually done with specific shader settings and height/normal maps for a realistic effect

[arctic helm]

can i ask quickly what does blue mark mean here (and how i can delete)

[spark walrus]

Need help figuring out why my avatar's mesh shoots out of her mouth when moving the tongue?

[left gull]

not sure about the blue line but to delete blendshapes you'd need to take it to blender and delete them there ( or VRCFury apparently has a blendshape optimizer though im not sure how well it works)

[spark walrus]

Had this issue happen before no idea how fix before but I had a quest ver ready for an avatar that would be 10.4mb so I get rid of one thing then all of the sudden the avatar jumps to 58mb some how. Had this for a while.

[timid terrace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_At596jLi3k

[left gull]

Does anyone have any good/recently updated videos on how to properly convert a VRchat model to VRM? im able to export my model but alot of these videos are using methods that wont work for half the setup or really old scripts/programs like dynamic bones

[crystal kernel]

my avatar doesnt have walking animations, are those located in the default animation controller? if so, where is that located

fixed it

[raven orbit]

Yeah, i don't know how to help you with that. I set up the toggles manually because that way I can have more control over how it functions

[trim tiger]

anyone got any idea why an avatar's straight up just not uploading with physbones

for quest

it has physbones

less than 8 components

they work in play mode in unity

but in vrchat the physbones straight up aren't there

and i've been banging my head against this issue for 2 days now

[raven orbit]

What about the physbone transform count

[trim tiger]

probably fine since the sdk's giving no warning

they just aren't there

[raven orbit]

Someone else had this issue before because the sdk didn't give any warning. Tell me the number

[trim tiger]

remind me how i check the total again

without just manually counting

[raven orbit]

There's a statistic with the name i mentioned earlier (edit: in the build menu)

Could also be another statistic related to physbones like collision checks, i'll sent the list of hard caps

Apparent number of contacts can affect it as well

[trim tiger]

i had nine components instead of eight

[raven orbit]

Rip

[trim tiger]

also when the hell did the requirement go down from sixteen to eight

[rich monolith]

Hiya everyone, I'm trying to setup a custom afk animation w/ goloco onto my avi but when it comes to testing it, it just touches its forehead instead and only starts playing it when exiting the afk animation, any idea why that's happening thank you

[indigo compass]

The mobile limits have always been 8 components.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230613181952/https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-performance-ranking-system/
13th of June, 2023

[buoyant thorn]

is there a way to lock transform z trails from generating trails in X and Y angle?

[crystal kernel]

is there a way for me to achieve a way to make a code? i have these glyphs with receivers and i want to make first_spell_id the first activated glyph.. anyone any ideas?

[raven orbit]

I don't have perfect knowledge of how the afk animations are set up in gogoloco, but there's likely more than one animation state that needs to be replaced. You may have replaced the animation state for exiting the animation, but there would be another one you'd need to replace before that, likely transitioning into that state you replaced

[lean kelp]

Heya, Is there anyway to convert a .VMD file into a .anim file? I'm trying to make an emote for personal uses, found a VMD file of the dance I really liked

[rich monolith]

the problem is that all transition states have been replaced but only the afk exit one plays after exiting the the said afk

[raven orbit]

i believe there's a plugin for importing MMD files into blender, also I found this tutorial video after a quick google search https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zkffR7-6gU

[raven orbit]

i happened to have a unity project with gogoloco open so i took a look at it's action animator and the setup is... complicated. It's possible that there's another reference the other default animation that's harder to find. I believe there's an option in gogoloco to choose what afk animation plays and somewhere that might overwrite what you replaced? idk. Here's some videos I found on google:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlL3GiqTjxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMBUUo7H9hc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjhj_rFNT2M

[raven orbit]

also, i don't know what the video goes over, but i also have some general tips on importing the animations in unity. For humanoid animations, the skeleton doesn't need to match the model you are using for your avatar, so it might be easier to use a model you are sure maps correctly be default. I also set the first frame of the animation to the a T pose, this also makes it easier to map correctly. You can copy the animation contained within the imported file and paste it within your assets, then you can edit the animation and remove the T pose frame.

[lean kelp]

I think I tried this, but my model was made using VRoid, so it's doesn't really has bones

I've been in front of my pc for like 7 hours now lol

[raven orbit]

ah... thats odd. usually vroid models should export with bones

[lean kelp]

This was the error I encounter when I take the anim file for the bones and put it in as a toggle

Gesture Manager didn't let me play test, so I'm building it and testing it in game as a last resort

[raven orbit]

oh yeah, usually when I import animations I only import skeleton. Is the import set to humanoid? It needs to be mapped the same way as a model import. It should also be possible to remove the keys referencing those paths from the animation manually within unity

[lean kelp]

what I did is I import the VRM file into blender, slap the VMD file into the model and export the whole thing as a FBX file

then I put the imported FBX file into Unity and take the bone's anim file

[raven orbit]

well, that description appears to miss the step of mapping the animated FBX as humanoid. The anim needs to be converted to humanoid because keys referencing the direct path to bones won't work on a humanoid avatar

[lean kelp]

when I imported the FBX file into unity I did changed the rig into humanoid, or do I need to do it in blender then export it?

[raven orbit]

You may need to check that the mapping is correct in the configuration (in unity), other than that I believe it will work. you will also need to edit the animation to remove the references to the Camera and Eki_mesh

[lean kelp]

Okay, thank you a lot. I'll refer on this and try to fix this damn thing

[raven orbit]

hope it works!

[half wagon]

hey ive started having this error out of no where anyone have any idea what it is

[crystal kernel]

some package (stuff like poiyomi or VRCfury) is retrieved from a public github
in your case, whatever package youre using, is not avaible online so its searching on your computer instead, which is also not there

[half wagon]

its vrcfury and gesture manager thats doing it for somereason

[crystal kernel]

it might be an internet problem

since i can download it

try restaring vrcc?

[half wagon]

i have tried doing it a few times maybe its just having a stroke for me

[crystal kernel]

hmm

[rich monolith]

So from what I've gathered this little transition is what's causing the ruckus any idea how to disable the animation that plays in it or 'under-prioritise' it as per say?

@raven orbit forgor to reply there oops

[somber sequoia]

Click on it, and in the inspector somewhere is "mute" - that will disable it

[rich monolith]

Unfortunately that did not do it, also disabled one's similar to it but no luck and weirdly enough loco re-writes the animations inside each afk transition for some reason

[arctic ginkgo]

@rich monolith how are you going afk?

[rich monolith]

with av3 emulator

also on runtime there seems to be 2 diff afk layers (upper one is custom)

[arctic ginkgo]

i mean what are you doing to make the avatar go afk?

[arctic ginkgo]

oh this is a vrcfury issue..

[arctic ginkgo]

vrcfury is for some reason duplicating the layers

[arctic ginkgo]

okay so you're going afk by chaning the afk state

just wondering because gogo loco has 2 afks

regular afk (in emulator it's the afk button, in-game it happens by opening your headset or steam menu or taking off your headset)

then there's manual afk, which is a toggle in gogo loco

[rich monolith]

okay so removing the animations from the 2nd one seems to have done the thing

the question is how to find and delete it

[arctic ginkgo]

how did you customize your layers?

did you do it by customizing the ones used by your vrcfury prefab?

because it looks like you may be installing gogo loco both manually and through vrcfury at the same time

[wooden zinc]

does anyone know how to do the idle animation for desktop users on a avatar (also where i can get them from)

[rich monolith]

yeah I think that's what happened, I dropped the fury version onto the avi and setup the layers afterwards

[arctic ginkgo]

okay you'll need to either setup the layers that are used by vrcfury (and remove any gogo loco controllers from your playable layers on your avatar) or remove your vrcfury prefab and setup gogo loco manually

[rich monolith]

yup the fury version is using write default version meanwhile the manual work is using non-wd ones

and that has officialy fixed the issue, ty Sunshine and Neiryl

[latent beacon]

how do i get my avatar. i got a new hard drive and dont have access to my files anymore

[arctic ginkgo]

if you have access to the files then you get them from wherever you stored them. If not, then you lost them

[latent beacon]

damn it

[crystal kernel]

i have 4 objects, i want it so that after all of them are True, they are disables (GLyph_x_off). bu they dont. i have On Enter receivers on all of them and they share the same state logic. i have no clue why they dont work

could it be that the receiver make the bools False AFTER the animation player?

yeah how do make the contact receiver, or at least the bool it modifies, only do it when i enter (disabling it casting 0 when theres nothing)

[merry geyser]

Currently I have done a head swap successfully. I have some mesh that either overhangs or doesnt line up right. What is the easiest way to fix it so it looks seamless

[junior void]

depends

[merry geyser]

everything is joined as one and connected via armature. Im just trying to figure out how to make it look more seamless atm

[junior void]

you could start by scaling is down on the z axis so its not clipping into the ear, then you can try separating it and blending the normals. as reference, i did that here on the hairs of the tail

[merry geyser]

ty

LOL

It looks 10x better

should i go in with sculpt and smooth the rest?

[junior void]

artists choice

[merry geyser]

kk ty

next question. I go into sculpt mode but it aint letting me sculpt

[somber sequoia]

you had the right object selected, right?

[merry geyser]

Correct

[somber sequoia]

sculpting also doesn't work well on stuff that's low poly

[raven orbit]

i mean it depends on what you're trying to do. I use sculpt tools to smooth and grab regions of low poly models all the time

[merry geyser]

It was because I had the A.A blend key selected and not the basis one

sob

now my issue is the mouth is open but the blendshapes are at 0

[junior void]

in unity or blender

[somber sequoia]

ahh

[merry geyser]

blender

[azure citrus]

Hi, I'm trying to animate a material to change color but unfortunately it looks like I can only animate all materials on the mesh at once. Is there a way to only animate 1 of the materials?

[raven orbit]

was it open is basis before or has it changed the basis to another shape key? I've had a bug that did that before but it was on a much older version of blender from a few years ago

[merry geyser]

at first it was only doing it in edit mode

[junior void]

sounds like its posed

[somber sequoia]

if you use a shader which lets you rename properties when locked, such as Poiyomi, you can do this. Otherwise, nope

[merry geyser]

you where right

is there a way to reset it or do i need to manually do it

[somber sequoia]

go into pose mode, hit 'a' to select all, then in the menu there's a reset transforms

I forget which menu, I don't have Blender open

[arctic ginkgo]

you don't need to use on enter if you aren't trying to detect velocity

you can just use your own logic to detect when it's entered and turn something on/off

say you want an on/off button.
1st press = on
2nd press = off

what you do is set up 4 states that transition in a loop. They will wait for it to turn true, then false, then true, then false

[somber sequoia]

yeah - we're discussing in #avatar-dynamics

[round comet]

So curious, a friend of mine mentioned a solidify modifier in blender. What does solidify do?

[arctic ginkgo]

it adds thickness to your faces

[round comet]

Ouu alright!