avatar-help

[verbal heath]

wdym

[young cairn]

rn the tip of the tail curls a lil bit

but if it has gravity itll just hang

[verbal heath]

i don't particularly mind that tbh

[young cairn]

i would only use gravity for big tails

[verbal heath]

ah okay

i'll see how it looks ingame

[young cairn]

but if thats your thing then go for it, again just test things out!

[young cairn]

yeyeyey

[verbal heath]

:/ it STILL says failed

[gloomy flint]

i use gravity for long tails, tails i want to droop a little especially if laying on my side or smth, or tails that are designed to hang limp (ie. Cow tails or something similar) so if i bend over they dont stick out like they're plastic lmao

[verbal heath]

do I have to build it with 2022.3.22f1 or something?

i'm just using latest

[somber sequoia]

Yes

[verbal heath]

Oh...

Fuck

Why is that just a warning then

[somber sequoia]

VRChat runs on 2022, you can't use a newer one

[verbal heath]

Should that not be an error

[thorny pasture]

hello! Im new to blender and I want to duplicate this bases tail to where it has 2-3 tails instead of just the one, but I have no idea where to start without breaking everything, and unfortunately there are no tutorials on how to do this lol, any help is appreciated (if this is the wrong channel for this feel free to point me towards the correct one)

[gloomy flint]

yellow warnings are usually 'this probably wont work but you can still try lol'

[verbal heath]

will 21f1 work

theres no option for 22f1

[thorny pasture]

nah that warning means absolutely nothing

[verbal heath]

its the only thing I can think of being an issue

[somber sequoia]

There are a TON of tutorials on how to use blender. This is going to be complex. See also #3d-modeling.
If the tail is not a separate object, go into edit mode for the mesh, select all the parts you want, shift+d to duplicate them, move them wherever. You'll probably want to duplicate the bones also to rig the new one...

[verbal heath]

animator was alr fixed

[thorny pasture]

gotcha, appreciate it!

[gloomy flint]

update to the latest unity then resent a picture of your SDK before you upload an avatar-

[verbal heath]

?

[somber sequoia]

"The Donut Tutorial" or any of those by Rainhet are probably quite useful if you're really new

[verbal heath]

im assuming 21f1 will work in place of 22f1

[steady summit]

why in Edit Mode the earring looks like this and then in Object Mode it looks crooked?

[verbal heath]

right

there's no option for 22f1

only 21

[somber sequoia]

No, you want 2022.3.22f1. You can get it via VCC if you like, or go to the archive

[thorny pasture]

ah lol I was more referring to a specific tutorial on how to do things like this, I don't actually want to learn blender just enough to do what I need lmao

[verbal heath]

vcc wont work for me

archive it is

[somber sequoia]

I can't use vcc either (linux), so I just do it via UnityHub, there's an archive button.

[verbal heath]

also linux lmfao

[somber sequoia]

You really do, this is not going to be very simple.

[verbal heath]

I can ignore compilation errors right

No, I guess not

how do I reinstall a package

[somber sequoia]

how did you install it the first time?

[verbal heath]

dragging and dropping the avatar sdk in

i tried just doing that again

didnt work

[verbal heath]

how would I fix this

[somber sequoia]

ah, I install the SDK via vpm, the command-line tool like VCC, that may be a good option, or perhaps Alcom.
But you can delete all the installed files, and just re-import the package.

[verbal heath]

okay

how do I do that

it says deleting a root folder is not allowed

[somber sequoia]

do it outside of Unity

[verbal heath]

oh

ok

nope

[verbal heath]

still says nullreferenceexception

do I have to just remake this

can you not convert a project

[somber sequoia]

from what to what?

[verbal heath]

6000 to 2022.3.22f1

[somber sequoia]

ooh, I'd close Unity and delete the Library directory in the project, then re-open it

[verbal heath]

ok i can just export the avatar and then make a new project

oh?

ok

close unity or unity hub

[somber sequoia]

Unity, hub has nothing to do with what's inside your project.

[verbal heath]

okay

hm

[verbal heath]

no dice

i'm just gonna remake it; i exported the avatar

hm

when I click "edit" on view

it doesnt show the draggable thing

[eternal plinth]

hey, need help with a blender model. not really avatar related. willing to pay a bit

[open sonnet]

Has anyone uploaded a Rindo, This is my first booth Avi I am uploading and it came with liltoon shader and the rindo FBX. I import both and she says pink. I am still fairly new to this and my Autism wants more data to fill in the blanks but data isnt there on the instructions. Anyone who's done a Rindo before PLEASE HALLLP

[somber sequoia]

pink = broken material, likely a missing shader

[open sonnet]

Ahhh I imported the unity package for lil toon I am guessing I need to do something to apply it

[gloomy flint]

why didnt you just import it into VCC and apply it to the package? Also Liltoon isn't the only shader the avatar needs if you looked at the requirements

[spark walrus]

Not sure if this is something you can fix but how can I make to where guns from games like prison escape, murder 4, blackout etc closer to the hand and more center . I ask because some avatars have a better item positioning

[open sonnet]

THANK YOU!!!! My autism was looking for what he said in direction lol Page says the link above so I click the link above not realizing its two seperate links up there. See the TISM is strong with me

[gloomy flint]

lmao- yw

[steady summit]

how can I fix the model looking different in Object and in Edit mode without having to redo everything? The model looks right in Object mode btw

[steady summit]

ohh omg thank you

💚

[winter edge]

If my particles are in my head how can I make them show up in mirrors?

[indigo compass]

~~Add the headchop component to the game object that the particle system is on. https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/avatar-dynamics/vrc-headchop/~~
Ignore that

Uh, they should appear in mirrors.

I guess maybe you still need the headchop component?

[fallen cobalt]

Yesterday I managed to successfully use CATS to apply bone scaling changes in pose mode, to allow me to scale some bones down to change the size of parts of my body

This caused two wonk bugs: my eyes were snapping to a weird position, and my hands look like they've been steamrolled

I fixed the eyes by removing their bone references from the Human rig in the rigging settings for the model

But does anyone have any clue how to fix issues with hands spreading and stretching in really weird ways after making size adjustments to the bones?

There's an example of the hand opened, it's... really stretched and freaky looking 😅

[gloomy flint]

gamtor,,,,

🥺

[fallen cobalt]

is it too thin in blender and needs to be thickened? The difference in Unity is so strong but I'm not sure at all why it's happening...?

[hard crescent]

Q: Is there a max distance you can make a 3D audio source for an avatar before the sound just Doesnt Play Anymore?

for testing I have a 3D sound source on one avatar set to 100000 meters but it doesnt play at range past 300 or so

(this is for a roleplay avatar, not something im gonna be pestering people with in random worlds)

[pure isle]

can't send a picture but i have a model where i made a custom top. when i assemble the outfit in unity eveything but the top is moving accordingly.
the breasts move independantly. i know that the shirt is weightpainted and correctly attached in blender. im not entirely sure what i can do to troubleshoot

[iron kindle]

Ok, new issue, A hole has appeared on the model in Unity and in VRC but I cant find it when opening in blender

Ok I think I seaked it but now the area has some weird grey untextured parts

[ornate stump]

Avatar spatialized audio has hard cap at 40 meters range.

[fallen cobalt]

Hey, I fixed my issue today! I had to go into the Humanoid Rig settings for the model in Unity, then "reset" the pose and "enforced t-pose" and the hands were fixed. I'm not sure what caused them to wig out during my edits, but resetting the model fixed the hands, and re-enforcing the t-pose didn't re-break them sooooo all is good? :D

[gritty zephyr]

I am not an Avatar creator but I do wear an Avatar it is called blue and yes it is blue from blues clues but unfortunately 1 day the clothes desynced from the Avatar and now PC users see her naked except for the beanie on top of her head. I would love for someone to contact the avatar creator and see if they can fix it.

[spark walrus]

this make a difference inn performance? not sure if ittl lag annyonnne

[muted night]

I'm trying to Animate My Avatar's Eyes in the FX layer, but nothing I do makes them move.
Literally just needed to do it in the Additive layer, ok

[frail karma]

does anyone know how to fix when you use a model in vrchat and it legs are just stiff and have no animation for walking? its like when i move around in desk top they kinda float with the body but dont physically move like walking

[sudden hawk]

I cant upload my avatar bc it says upload failed, what may i do?

[gloomy flint]

if it has gogo loco you might not have put the correct layers in Crude

[arctic ginkgo]

no it's jut telling you that "kaiser" usually has the preferred visual outcome. there's no pperformance difference

[stoic bobcat]

whats the prefab that people use to make clones and ragdoll? trying to use it for my loki avatar

[verbal pendant]

hiii does anyone know how to achieve this type of shading? (this image isn't mine and i got it from pinterest)

[stoic bobcat]

looks like its just realistic without any metallic or smoothness

[iron kindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9HmE7N84uQ I figured out how to fix the hole using this, If anyone needs help with holes this will help

[verbal pendant]

do i use poi toon or liltoon?

[tough token]

is there a way to combine these

[junior void]

sure, in blender. but why would you do that

[tough token]

i need to lower the collision count and im assuming that would help

considering unity highlights those when i click on the problem

currently im at 540 collisions which is like 38 above the pc max

[junior void]

That's way insane

You realize you could also just get rid of physbone scripts and/or lower the collider amounts in those scripts?

[tough token]

uh

explain im very new to this

[junior void]

https://vrc.school/docs/Avatars/PhysBones/#a60f98c8fe7b41b28c9324911ecda14a
https://vrc.school/docs/Avatars/PhysBones/#5ee38a67046c424ea7778c2d8d514077
Plenty to find if googling it

[junior void]

that sounds like the animation itself broke

that can happen if you change the name of clothing

cuz then, it cant find it anymore

[tough token]

i am lost still ngl

[junior void]

find the physbone scripts

in the scripts, find the "collision" part

[tough token]

scripts uhh

where can i find themm

[junior void]

it depends where you added them

some people add them straight to the bones they need to go

other ppl make a "folder" call it dynamics or physics and put them there

[tough token]

i see "avatar descriptors"

what extension would they be under

[junior void]

I will repeat myself

Sometimes, people put the physbones right in the bones they need to go, in which case theyd be on your armature

Such as in the hair for hair jiggle, on the ass bones for ass jiggle and so on

[tough token]

its an import from vroid

[junior void]

Where were spring bones before

Likely on the root, no?

[tough token]

i believe so

[junior void]

Did you see and scroll past your avatar descriptor

[junior void]

open this

Then click this

[tough token]

ok

[junior void]

then in the inspector window, see whats there

youre looking at things on the actual avatar, not for files in the asset folder

[tough token]

oh i see the scripts now

[junior void]

This is crazy basic stuff, id like to suggest watching general tutorials

As for vrchat, no avatar has a collider on the spine

I know vrm does this

But colliders are not for a humanoid setup here, we use colliders so that physbones (hair etc) does not clip say thru the chest

so you can remove any and all physbone colliders that go past this sense

[tough token]

so like remove the ones on body parts

[junior void]

Here's an example

this is my avi

i want the tail to collider with the legs so the tail doesnt clip in front of me when i walk backwards

so i have colliders for that AND those colliders ARE ASSIGNED in the physbone scripts of the tail

So you see, spine, arms, head, totally unnecessary for anything

[tough token]

i see

[jovial spoke]

I'm new to avatar making and I need some help with facial expressions. What I'm trying to do is making simple expressions by rotating the eyelids and jaw bones. I've set them up on hand gestures and it works in unity, but not in game. Am i missing something or is it not possible, bc i'm using said bones for Eye Look and Jaw Flap

[tough token]

when i was being taught how to make avatars from vroid they never mentioned this

i assumed it was optimized already

[junior void]

this is specific to vrchat

vroid set collider stuff for each limb

[tough token]

oh so theres a lot of colliders littered around

wow

[junior void]

yes

because the two systems work quite different

if you look at the avatar descriptor and scroll to the bottom f it, you see that the sdk even auto-assigns certain colliders already

such as for the hands and fingers

this promises that everyone can move peoples physbones even when they never added colliders to fingers

[tough token]

so should you only have colliders on specific hair and stuff you dont want to clip into your body

[junior void]

You wouldnt put colliders on hair

[tough token]

didnt you put one on your tail

[junior void]

you put the physbones on hair and colliders on things you want them to collide with such as the arms maybe if you have long hair

no

i added physbone script to tail

add collider to legs

then ASSIGN the collider in the physbone script

this img is from the tail physbone script

[tough token]

my hair is really short so i dont think i would need colliders on my chest, legs, arms etc right

[junior void]

right

thats good, less is better

[tough token]

oh that makes more sense

can i simple uncheck the check boxes on the scripts

or do i have to remove them manually

[junior void]

its better to get rid of them

[tough token]

I heard you have to select android platform for it to be quest compatible is that ture

true

[junior void]

you have to select quest as build platform and upload it - if it lets you. Yes

[tough token]

it told me it was disabled

also im still appearing as a robot ingame

that was the only limit that i was aware i was over

theres these but i was told they shouldnt be a problem

[junior void]

the top most message is important

if you use any other unity version than supported, even if its newer ones, youll always be a bot

[tough token]

when i opened project in VRCC

it said i could switch to the recommended version and i clicked it and it switch

and opened it

[junior void]

you should use 2022.3.22f1

it may have had a hiccup but thats what you should use

[sweet crypt]

how do i make outfit presets

using VRCFury specifically

[junior void]

I usually include the armature from the hips out so that i only need one armature link component

Could mean something else by "presets" tho

[sweet crypt]

like this

[junior void]

So whats the goal here?

Have all these on by default?

[sweet crypt]

how do i explain i guess i wanna swap between outfits without having to toggle each item n and ff

on and off*

[junior void]

As far as i know, you cant do that with vrcf alone

i did this in the past and what i did was i used a full controller component

made toggle animations myself

put them all into an fx layer by hand (yes it sucks cuz its a lot of work)

and then for whole outfits, you can use parameter driver to drive all toggles of one outfit by one button

[sweet crypt]

that sounds like a whole lotta wrk i aint feeling tonight xD

[junior void]

it is a lot of work, youd have to create each toggle animation (on and off) and then add that to an fx that vrcf then can merge on build

thats the only way i see it possible though

[sweet crypt]

well ty

[jovial spoke]

anyone?

[junior void]

you say "eye lids" (assuming blendshapes) and then eye bones, which one are you using? Which layer are you using?

[jovial spoke]

i use the eyelid bones to rotate the rigged eyelids and the FX layer

[midnight slate]

Completed ✅✅✅✅

[junior void]

i dont think you can animate humanoid bones in the fx layer

[midnight slate]

Does it looks cool 😁??

[jovial spoke]

Will it work if I put my controller in the gesture layer then?

[junior void]

Read the middle part here https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/playable-layers/#additive

sounds like what youre trying to do - a minimal change to humanoid bone that doesnt replace other animations but "adds"

This may be helpful as well. I havent messed with it myself but it may be relevant https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-tracking-control

[jovial spoke]

I see. Gonna try that whenever i can

[small kraken]

Whats the correct way to make a clothing moves with a physbone that is part of an avatar?

I rigged an outfit, set it up with either modular avatar or manually dragging the bones into the armature but i cant get the clothes to moves with the bust physics.

Same happens with some ear rings on a cat ear avi that has physics on it

[sharp oasis]

I have transparrent gaps in the hair when looking at myself with the spawnable mirror. Any idea what could be causing this?

Material is set to opaque

[junior void]

could be that the faces there are inside out. setting backface culling to none would fix this (granted it is that and that your shader has this option, not available on quest)

[azure crown]

So I need some help

I can't switch to android build and when I try it says it's disabled

I've went into file - build settings and opened the android download page and tried that. It did not work and I'm not sure how to fix it

I overreacted I just restarted my laptop lol

[cobalt zephyr]

Anyone know of any skurts for rusk, milk or mint? Or any other character woth similar physique

If u do could u be as kind as to give me a link to where i can get it

[wheat horizon]

Question I have a AFK animation on my avatar that summons an avatar's object in their heirarchy, the spawn in, afk, and spawn out animation have it toggle in and out but when I start the AFK animation the object doesnt turn on, can anyone help?

[mighty citrus]

anyone having issues uploading a avatar at the moment

after logging out and back in this time around its back to "the operation has timed out"

and yes after i copied my project to reupload my avatar with different outfit and controller and menu, i removed the blueprint ID

[hidden orchid]

Hello, whats the correct configuration for audio in an avatar i want a 3mt distance but my friends say that they can here it in the whole mapa

[smoky panther]

spatialize it, theres a checkbox i think on the vrcspatialaudio component that does that

[young ether]

What is the best way to size clothes to a model?

[hidden orchid]

Sculping it

[young ether]

I tried that and it ended up looking like a made the mountains on the clothes up close some parts were right others stretched to far out and it was just overall uneven

Especially for clothes that weren't made for the model I use

I dont understand if im using the wrong tool or just doing it wrong completely

[wheat horizon]

Anyone know how to enable an object during a afk animation

[bronze crypt]

sorry late lol

[somber sequoia]

those are warnings, errors are red. But those do make me think you also need to reinstall whatever shader you've got that uses Thry's editor

[frail tiger]

is any1 having issues uploading avis rn? mine are like infinitly loading tried reloading sdk downgrading sdk tried swapping out some materials checked my console but idk

idk if its a me thing or if the sdk is having issues rn

[mighty citrus]

having issues too

[frail tiger]

ok so i wont mess with anything rn might be sdk bugging out ill just wait a few hours

[mighty citrus]

yep i gave up for now i mean only thing i changed was out and menu and fails

[frail tiger]

yea im pretty sure its a sdk thing bc i tried looking at my other avi and its doing the same thing

come back later hope it works

[carmine island]

Can anyone help me with my Avi? i model it, but i need it to be color and made cartoonish, it is meant to be low poly. The color disappear when I combine all the objects together to one body so I can Connect the bonesto the body. Please help

[timber wharf]

if youre using solid color materials, either use vertex colors or use mat combiner addon to bake your materials into one atlas texture.

[tranquil niche]

Hey all, would anyone here be able to help me with a question regarding modular avatar?

i have this thing on my avatar where the avatars toes are supposed to interact with surfaces properly and I've been trying to add a pair of shoes to this avatar, however, every time i have it turned on in my expressions wheel, it keeps the toe part of my shoes pointed upwards while my feet stay flat and extrude out of the shoes. but when I turn it off the shoes work fine, ideally i'd like to be able to use that feature, but can't if i don't figure this out

here's a video of myself toggling the option off in vrchat so you can see what it's doing in greater detail

[tranquil niche]

This is probably a better video showcasing the issue

[tiny spire]

So im putting this lace lingerie set onto my avatar, but im really struggling with the textures on it. I don't know how they achieve the transparency of the lace without an alpha map? any help is appreciated!

[sly lodge]

is your main color texture doesn't have alpha in it?

[tiny spire]

Unsure?this is the current main color texture being used in the shading setup

[sly lodge]

i think, it does have

@tiny spire you can try plug the image texture's alpha output pin into your Principled BSDF's alpha input pin

[tiny spire]

I'll letcha know if that works

i'll slap myself silly if it does LOL

[tiny spire]

seems to have partially done the trick!

wait nevermind, it has fixed it. ❤️ thank you so much

I do have one final question because i cant figure out where this map belongs

In the maps folder it contains this, but i can't find an input pin for this anywhere in the principled BSDF and any amount of googling relating to height map brings me to terrain generation for blender

[sly lodge]

is your clothing detailed enough? the height map would modify the vertices positions, but it wouldn't look too good, if it's a low poly model

[tiny spire]

detailed enough! not really too bothered was just always curious about its usage texture wise

[sly lodge]

you can use it like that, you need a displacement node, and maybe change some settings too in the rendering tab

or maybe throw in a subdivision surface modifier too, to get better results

to more vertices you have, the better is the result

[tiny spire]

I see, so more for high vertice' detailed textures/models

[sly lodge]

yeah, for games, you don't really need it, normal maps usually just fine for the details

[tiny spire]

Thanks a lot ❤️ I appreciate the help

[pale adder]

anyone here have experience using motchiri's shader? causing this to happen when i hit play mode

nvm i figured it out, wasn't using gesture manager to compile it in play mode

[stiff kiln]

Aptempt number 15 at making good looking blendshapes for the lipsync. (The white part is made of glass, I just couldn't adjust the material in Blender to make it transparent.)
What do you guys think? Any suggestions on how to improve it?

[mighty citrus]

still cant upload the new avatar

[shrewd stirrup]

How do i make a sound when a particle collides and plays a sub emiter

[somber sequoia]

you can't on avatars

[night ember]

well I mean you technically can but just not with a particle alone

[shrewd stirrup]

well how is that done

[night ember]

rigidbody

[shrewd stirrup]

i see

[stiff kiln]

Quick question: Is there a way to make a material transparent on Quest? I dont want to remove the glass material from my avatar's Quest version, but if I dont the eyes are completly hidden.

[night ember]

you could use one of the 2 particle shaders you can use on avatars to just make it not visible entirely

[wheat horizon]

How do I enable an object during a afk animation, mine is already toggled into the afk animations but it doesn't show

[balmy barn]

use AFK bool in fx enable disable stuff

[stiff kiln]

Im asking because this is what happens when I use the VRChat/Mobile/Standard Lite shader.

[night ember]

quest doesnt have transparency

[stiff kiln]

I know, thats why I was asking. Because if I remove the glass, it looks a bit too ugly...

[wheat horizon]

How does this work? Sadly I'm using a prefab that made its afk animation in the action layer instead. Sadly alot of videos are mega out of date too

[balmy barn]

animation goes to action - object in fx

[ object off ] < AFK false | AFK true > [ object on ]

[wheat horizon]

I think I get it, once I work on it later I'll let you know if I need help thank you

[median grotto]

Can someone please help me? I'm getting so many errors when I'm just trying to work on my Vroid avatar and get her functioning in VRC ;_;

[arctic ginkgo]

does anyone know if the physbone parent constraint issue is going to get fixed? (physbones incorrectly apply motion from original parent when parent constrained)

i thought this was fixed already, i remember it being rolled back temporarily, but i thought they ended up implementing it

[stiff lantern]

what would cause an avatar to t-pose ONLY on desktop mode? in vr it moves fine but on desktop its messed up and t poses unless moving

[wheat horizon]

Send the errors?

[median grotto]

I'm basically starting over from scratch because I'm so lost ;_; As soon as I open a new project from the creator companion, I get this: Packages\com.vrmc.univrm\Runtime\IO\VRMImporterContext.cs(274,28): warning CS0618: 'ExtensionMethods.GetOrAddComponent<T>(GameObject)' is obsolete: 'Use VRC.Core.ExtensionMethods.GetOrAddComponent(GameObject go) instead.'

[median grotto]

and then after that, anything I do just goes up in flames. I'm literally just trying to put gogoloco on my avatar and preserve her facial expressions from vroid......

[jovial spoke]

So that didnt work

[tiny spire]

Similar question to last time but, this time i have an opacity map

does that go in the alpha input pin for principled BSDF?

cus its not looking proper in blender at all

[raven orbit]

if the opacity map is a solid black and white map, rather than a transparent image, you'll have to set up the shader using a mix shader, with transparent shader in one slot and the principled BSDF in the other, then in the factor is where you plug in the opacity map

wait no im wrong, it would work fine in the alpha slot of the bsdf

if it is transparent, it needs to be set up like this

[tiny spire]

Its setup like this for now, but it didn't affect the opacity whatsoever, and using the different blend modes breaks the texture

oh wait

i might see my issue 🤣

[raven orbit]

oh what version of blender is that

[tiny spire]

Old lol, I flip between 3.0 and 3.6

[arctic ginkgo]

Maybe your base controller has missing motion fields in your blendtrees for desktop. By default they are not forked. But if you are using gogo loco (or some other custom controller) it changes the locomotion animations for desktop, 3pt vr, and fbt. Maybe something you did broke it, try running it in gesture manger (defaults to desktop mode but can be changed) and see if you can reproduce the issue. Open your base controller and select the avatar in the hierarchy. This will let you watch the animations and transitions in real time to see what may be causing any issues. If you're having problems with seeing what's happening (camera moving too fast, forcing you into a different substatemachine than you want, etc), clicking on "auto live link" in the top right of the animator window disables the camera framing the active state (clicking it again enables it) so that you can freely navigate your controller. Be aware that making any changes to your animations or controller while gesture manager is running will cause it to stop, and you will have to select gesture manager and click "reload scene" (or exit and reenter playmode) in order for the emulator to continue.

[stiff lantern]

ill have to try some other time bc ill have to redownload the pkg i made but it literally only happens when i use one specific persons products ;0; im GM it looks perfectly fine ;-;

[arctic ginkgo]

If you cannot reproduce the behavior in unity, try using the debug panel in-game to observe the state of animation controllers, parameters, and other avatar information (like temp pose space).

[stiff lantern]

is temp pose space an add-on? sorry this is getting into things i dont know

[arctic ginkgo]

No, and it probably isn't relevant to your issue

It's a type of avatar information that doesn't fall under the category of "animation controller state" or "parameter value", just giving an example so you know how to read the panel

[stiff lantern]

OH sorry misread- thoght you were telling me that temp pose was a debug panel, how would i go about a debug panel? or any tuts on how to do it on my own?

ohh okay

[arctic ginkgo]

The panel is organized in 3 columns. Left is parameters, right is general/misc avatar info, and right is animation controller states

[arctic ginkgo]

It's in your radial/action menu. Iirc it should be under settings, then avatar

So on desktop it's the menu that comes up when your press R, and on vr it's the one that comes up when holding your menu button

If you are curious what temp pose space is, it's something you can activate on your avatar which will override your viewpoint height with the current height of the head bone in the animation it is in

This is intended to be used for adjusting your height when posing (sitting, laying down, etc)

It's what gogo loco uses to adjust your height when posing or using the hover feature

[frank spruce]

Anyone know why my models body is stuck facing a specific way

Wanted to see if maybe its a unity issue before going back to blender

[pastel night]

anyone know why poiyomi is showing larger file sizes than if i look at the texture directly

seems like when i upload it uses the larger size, because my total texture memory is 200+, when all my textures are crunch compressed to 1MB or lower, and there are not that many

[stiff kiln]

I have a last help request about lipsync.
To give some context:
To test the lipsync of my avatar, I first test them using my mic, then I go to multiple mmd worlds to see if its compatible with other stuff that may use it. For the mic test, it worked fine (although its still pretty ugly) but for the compatibility test, no matter the world I choose, nothing seem to work while other avatars seem to work fine. (See attached video.)
My issue:
What do I need for my avatar to be 100% lipsync compatible? Do I need a jaw bone or something? More blendshapes? Im really confused.

Sorry I couldn't find a better way to record, im not that good at recording stuff ^^"

[indigo compass]

You need blendshapes, with specific names.
Here is a ok tutorial (quite dense) for it https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dqzjyvJPa845Atbq5oUaWyt19OK_ia0m325nvYddHy4/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.uimgiwuhtiuv

The blendshapes should be named with Japanese characters only.

[stiff kiln]

oh...

[indigo compass]

MMD worlds use stations to play animations on your avatar, to convey enough expressions they need quite a few blendshapes that need to follow some standard.

[stiff kiln]

Yeah I guess..
So I need to rename my blendshapes with those characters?

[indigo compass]

I guess you could for the basic ones, but I think duplicating the blendshapes will make it easier in the long run, no need to remember what Japanese characters meant what viseme and such.

[arctic ginkgo]

compression doesn't affect memory usage, just download size

[stiff kiln]

I'll try

[arctic ginkgo]

think of it like this. You have some furniture that you'd like to deliver to your house. Compression changes the way in which the furniture is packaged, and so if you can fit everything together neatly, you'll have a relatively small package to deliver. This is the "download size", what is delivered to you. Then once you it gets to your home, you'll need to assemble the furniture back to it's original format, and back to it's full size in order for it to be usable. The more the furniture is taken aparent and tightly packed (compressed) the longer this will take. This is why crunch compressed textures can cause a lag/stutter when loading into memory. Then once it's fully assembled it will still remain at it's original size.

Furniture package = Compressed texture
Delivery = Download
Assembly = Decompression
House = Memory
Space it takes in your house = Space it take up in memory

if you want to decrease the memory, you'll need to decrease the actual size of the image (in the metaphor this would be like ordering a smaller piece of furniture)

download size is still important, as the larger the size, the longer it'll take to download, but you should try to avoid sacrificing a quick decompression for a smaller filesize if it lags people (which crunch compression often does, especially for very large textures)

a good way to reduce texture memory is to channel pack textures that don't need all 4 channels (rgba)

[indigo compass]

To be specific, "crunch compression" only affects download size, while reducing texture quality and not touching actual size.

And when uploading the asset bundle (your avatar or world) is being compressed anyway, but with lossless compression (quality doesn't decrease), donno how close the final size gets to if you used crunch compression, but was someone over in #world-optimization who saw basically no difference. (know there can be a difference so who knows)

You need to decrease your texture resolution on things, remember that things will generally be looked at from at least arms length away.

[frail tiger]

anyone else still having issues uploading avatars? like my sdk is just stuck infinitly loading

[arctic ginkgo]

some shaders offer this ability and some don't, if you're using poiyomi for different types of maps, some can be channel packed, like metallic, smoothness, occlusion (i haven't done this myself since i usually do flat/cel shading so i could be wrong on which maps can be channel packed, check the documentation of the shader you are using)

[stiff kiln]

Like this?

I was a bit too lazy to do every blendshapes, so I just made the ones I thought were the most used. ^^"

[indigo compass]

Yeah, that should work

[stiff kiln]

I only had the time to do a, i, u, e, o, n. I hope that'll be enough for now.
Im not trying to make something 100% fitting, I just wanted to not have a completly immobile expression ^^"

[tired python]

I have a jacket that when ever I try to modulate it, it doesn't work and the jacket ends up looking this in game

the jacket is not inside of the armature if that matters

[junior void]

Modulate? Since theres 5 ways to add clothing, lets start by how do you add it? Unity? Blender? Any addons, scripts?

[tired python]

im doing it through unity using a community VRC CC package. Its called "modulate avatar"
This is just the way I was told to do it by someone but if there is another method (through unity) that works ill do that

[junior void]

I never used modular avatar before but theres also vrcfury which can do the same thing with its armature link component

Note that bone names must match between base and cloth for it to work. The clothing should be rigged and have an armature, thats a given for both methods

[steel marsh]

so im having issues with uploading, it either cant get the data from existing avatars completely loaded in the menu or times out while uploading, im wondering if anyone has experienced this and/or knows a solution

[somber sequoia]

yeah I'm having the same issues, seems like an API issue

[tired python]

worked like a charm, thanks!

[steel marsh]

so is it a waiting game or what can i do to fix this?

[somber sequoia]

I have nothing to do with the VRChat API so can't answer that

[steel marsh]

ah

[somber sequoia]

interesting that the cancel button just outright hangs it

[open sonnet]

Hi everyone, I got a prefab asset for Rindo but I have zero clue how to add it to her. The download only had a unity file in it off booth I imported the prefab but now I have zero clue (Also Autism doesnt help because the tism wants all data possible. Its the whole folder Symphony of dutchess, Any help would be greatly appreciated

[somber sequoia]

heh that's a lot of mesh objects.

[somber sequoia]

did the asset come with any instructions?

[dusk finch]

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone might know why i have this happening to the clothing shown, the same section on the body is where this appears. Cause I've checked textures, doesn't appear there, doesn't appear in blender, and the bra does show this spot in game while the body doesn't from what i can tell. It just bothers me not knowing what it's doing xD

[gilded raft]

hmm, looks like no real instructions, but they do have a link to avatar tools near the top of the store page (if i'm looking at the right one)
maybe that could help? a brief looksie makes me think it can

[distant owl]

heya, im trying to add this portal effect onto my avatar, but for some reasons only the base shows up, im guessing it has something to do with the shader, but i don't wanna switch it since no other shaders would work on these, how do i fix this?

[somber sequoia]

ok so it turns out maybe I can answer this - for me I'm having IPv6 routing issues, which happens with my ISP occasionally. Just disabled that and the avatar upload worked properly.
Maybe it works for you too.

[daring lark]

Hey

I need help with avatar optimization

Can I call anyone?

[pallid jolt]

when i use blendshapes it changes the way the face piercing shader looks, using PoiToon 9.0 but I'm still pretty unfamiliar with it, how would i make it not do that?

[raven orbit]

in the fbx import mesh settings change blendshape normals to none instead of calculate

[pallid jolt]

thanks!

[steel marsh]

im going to be real no clue how to do that haha

[somber sequoia]

there's always google

[pale adder]

anyone else who's used motchiri's shader had problems with rim light breaking? is there a fix?

[steel marsh]

it worked, thanks!

[somber sequoia]

oh nice!

[frozen goblet]

Does anyone know the name of this avi???

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

[raven orbit]

https://ptb.discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1138520828556890214

[frozen goblet]

How do I look it up??

[somber sequoia]

the first post there literally tells you what to do

[white rock]

is there a way to have 1 gameobject with a Collider on it work with 2 separate Radial animations?

[somber sequoia]

I don't see why not, though you might have to get complicated depending on what you're trying to do

[white rock]

the thing is i have no idea how to go about it other then making an entire separate armature for a total of 6 with 4 more physbone scripts and using multiple constraints which is a hell of a lot less optimized then just allowing 2 animations to edit 1 gameobject.

[somber sequoia]

why would you need another armature?

Usually you don't want to have multiple things acting on the same object, but you can create logic in the animator that can pick and choose which is active based on parameters

[knotty oracle]

so i making an avi for ADVENT

and im trying to fix my model

[somber sequoia]

ADVENT?

[knotty oracle]

yeah

[white rock]

the issue is the 2 blendshapes need to use the same 2 Colliders (scaling) but also the 2 blendshapes work together at the same time but i can only get the collider to scale with 1 blendshape, i could make 1 blendshape a toggle but that defeats the whole purpose of the thing, plus i have the animation capabilities of a toaster.

[knotty oracle]

it looks good huh?

anyway

[somber sequoia]

could be as easy is "if this or that, do the thing"

[knotty oracle]

im trying to make the stuff work

im trying to make mouth movements too

im new to blender

so how do i make it look like its talking

for voice chat

and how do i make the arms move

since i have armatures

[somber sequoia]

that armature is a bit sus, looks like a game rip. you might have to rework that

[knotty oracle]

how do i rework it

and which one

[somber sequoia]

there's an example image pinned in #avatar-rigging

[grizzled drum]

How do I fire a Particle without a Buffer?

The Devs said there was a another way during the 2022 upgrade but never said

[ashen crane]

why is it that when i record an animation or even when i use gesture manager on unity, my avatar's mouth is open, maybe meaning that one of its visemes are enabled? For example, when on pause, the mouth is closed, but when recording any animations, the mouth opens...

[somber sequoia]

do you have the jaw bone mapped, but shouldn't?

[ashen crane]

it shouldnt be mapped?

yeah i guess thats true....

[somber sequoia]

If you aren't using it for the speaking, then nope, don't.

[ashen crane]

ight

[feral thistle]

Quick question, those who are familiar, How do you pose your avatar using gesture manager. I've never used this tool before and Im just using it to pose some clothing I've made to check to see if it clips or not.

Thanks.

[ashen crane]

i have another question, should the eyes also not be mapped..?

[somber sequoia]

If you use the eye bones for moving the eyes, then yeah, you probably want them

[arctic ginkgo]

i don't think it super matters tbh, for eye look vrchat uses the transforms in the avatar descriptor. I don't have eye tracking so I can't test it out, but I'd assume it uses the same transforms for eye tracking. The only thing having them mapped in the humanoid mapping does is make it so you can animate them with humanoid animations

[knotty oracle]

so how do i import my thing from unity to the VRC SDK

actually nvm

[daring lark]

Opened my unity and there is nothingggg

Like what the heck

How can I get back to the regular screen

[somber sequoia]

open the right scene perhaps?

[daring lark]

I had to start over thought it would be easier to export as vrm but this is popping up

I’m completely new to this

Watching so many videos on YouTube

But it seems like I keep running into walls at this point

And then my characters face is gone

[candid girder]

how do you remove excess bones?

the tail on the rex by default has extra bones because the feathers but they're still there when removing the feathers

[regal patio]

can someone please help me convert my pc avatar to quest im not very knowledgeable on how to do this and there are not enough videos online to help explain how to

[raven orbit]

use the "ingore tansforms" setting on the physbone component, you can set it to the number of bones you want to ignore (probably 3 for your case) then drag in the bones from the hierarchy. every bone below those on a chain will be ignored

though that only removes the bones from the physbone component, if you want to remove the bones entirely, you'd need to do that in blender

[arctic ginkgo]

does anyone know of a way to avoid the issue with physbones applying the motion of their parent even when parent constrained?

I tried setting the bones to just be parented to the armature, but that doesn't seem it work, as any movement of the avatar in world space will trigger the same issue (so it only works with locomotion disabled)

[open sonnet]

Hi everyone,
I've been watching some videos, but I think my "tism" might be making this more complicated for me. I added a set to Rindo, and everything lines up fine until I get to the lower legs and feet. It seems like everything is anchored to the hip, so rotating the legs or feet doesn’t work properly, as the entire set appears to be pre-anchored to the hip.

I tried changing the root bone for the shoes to handle them separately, but it looks like the shoes are part of a single asset for the entire set. Does anyone have advice on how to approach this?

[somber sequoia]

set?

[open sonnet]

sorry a full outfit.

My tism called it a set in my head

so my fingers followed lol

[arctic laurel]

does anyone know how to add face tracking to a avi i am having the hardest time figuring it out

[somber sequoia]

there's a whole discord server for it, and some stuff here: https://docs.vrcft.io/

[arctic laurel]

ik i am in it but i cnat find where it tells me how to add it to a avi its not my avi its my boyfriends ijust need to know how to add this stuff tto unity

[daring lark]

If anyone is willing and has free time I’m hoping to talk to someone about avatar optimization. Specifically for vroid models .

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure what's specific to vroid, but sure

[left gull]

Does anyone know what causes this/how to fix it? the model isnt offset from the origin point in blender but looks like this in unity

tried a re-export and it didnt change anything so im guessing its a issue i dont know about :P

[somber sequoia]

got any un-applied transforms in Blender?

[left gull]

other then Armature nope

[somber sequoia]

no, transforms, not modifiers

[left gull]

ah oopsie, lemme check

nope nothing out of place there either

[somber sequoia]

ah, that'd have been easy

[spark walrus]

took an avi into blender, had a friend guide me thru decimate, reimported it and the vismes were gone and they had no idea why, any ideas?

I really wanna make all my avis quest compatable, but if i cant use blender to lower their poly count then it isnt possible because thats why they cant be made quest

[somber sequoia]

Do you have an un-applied modifier? That can lead to missing shape keys in unity

[spark walrus]

idk, because i just had them walk me thru it and they never dealt with that before, idk anything about blender so idk how to check

[night ember]

Pretty sure you need a specific plugin to be able to decimate while keeping blendshapes

[fallow mirage]

Good to be here

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing you added a decimate modifier to mesh objects

[spark walrus]

ok so quest compatting my avis isnt happening then, since i dont know enough of what im doing to try to find and add a plugin but ill show them this and maybe they can help but if not i give up lol

so we didnt decimate the body

we just did clothes

so vismes shouldnt of been messed with?

[night ember]

Did you apply it

[somber sequoia]

yeah, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter which object

[night ember]

Also is your avatar an fbx

[spark walrus]

i dont know ill have to ask, i merged meshes tho and yea i exported the fbx to edit

[night ember]

What do you mean by exported it

[spark walrus]

i drug it from unity into blender then exported it in blender to drag it back into unity once i was done

[night ember]

Thatd be importing to blender not exporting to edit

[spark walrus]

yea i imported to blender, then exported it to unity

[night ember]

Cause if you exported it as fbx from unity thatd be a much bigger problem

[spark walrus]

should i have just saved it in blender and that would of carried over to unity since i just dragged and dropped?

[somber sequoia]

no, you need to export a FBX from blender for this to work right

[spark walrus]

alright so i did that part right

they have always done it the way they showed me and never had an issue so idk

we are trying to figure it out still

[somber sequoia]

the issue isn't the export, it's most likely an un-applied mesh modifier

[spark walrus]

i really wanna have my avis quest since most of my friends are quest but if i cant its not a bit deal

[somber sequoia]

oh you definitely can

[spark walrus]

do i have to apply a modifier? thats what they are asking

[somber sequoia]

yep

not armature, but other ones that can't apply automatically in the export, you have to deal with

[spark walrus]

so where would those be?

[night ember]

Modifier tab where you added it tobegin with

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing you added this

so yeah - there

[night ember]

What

[regal leaf]

Hey, I'm so sorry, I need some help in regards to an avatar, as I want to edit it, but it's stuck in this mid-jump position and clipping halfway into the floor. Is there any way to fix this?

[night ember]

Thats just the animation preview pose

Stop previewing the animation

[regal leaf]

It's stuck on it, even when not previewing any animation.

[night ember]

Then drag in a new copy of the fbx

[jolly harness]

Hey all, I am trying to use a contact receiver to activate a toggle on my avatar for this lid object to appear/disappear any time a hand is in the area, but instead i just get the lid to appear just for the first frame and then disappear when a hand enters, regardless of what i have the toggle on in my menu. Is there a simpler method to achieve this?

[unique surge]

vrcfury toggle with use a global parameter

[jolly harness]

do i have it set up wrong in that second image?

[jolly harness]

is there something better than the On Enter I am using? i see that it defaults to 0 as its using the dynamic avatar stuff, causing the one frame of the object appearing. But I am unsure what a better component to use there is

[timber wharf]

uh, use constant if you need it while touching

[jolly harness]

i just need it to toggle, the problem with constant i was having is when the hand leaves the collider it reverts back. which makes sense, but not what i want to happen

[timber wharf]

well idk if vrcf can cover this

in normal layers youd just have two states each going to another when param is 1

and on enter

[jolly harness]

yea im thinking i am going to have to set it up in the animator manually to get what i want

i dont have too too much experience with it so i was hoping to avoid that lol oh well its the best way to learn

[spark walrus]

dose anyone know how to make a photoshop file into a substance painter file trying to do a avi recolor and i know how to use sp but completey lost with photoshop

[merry thistle]

Guys I know a friend who have a problem at installing an avatar for quest and the avatar is only installed for pc, is there a way to fix this and make it for quest too?

[balmy barn]

swith to android in unity - upload same (more optimized one) avatar using the same blueprint it now will be pc & quest

[spark walrus]

so how do i apply the modifier?

so i dont lose the vismes again

uh

[elfin flint]

Hi

[somber sequoia]

sometimes you can use this tool. But often, with modifiers that alter the vertex count or topology a lot.... you can't. You'd have to do something like split the head or face off into another object first, and decimate the remainder, then rejoin. Or recreate visemes. or use another method to reduce poly count - Blender has a decimation method that isn't a modifier, for example. Or dissolve edge loops. Or just retopo it.
https://github.com/przemir/ApplyModifierForObjectWithShapeKeys

[elfin flint]

Im new in vrchat

And Im having a problem

[spark walrus]

ok so quest copating isnt happening then i guess because im not doing all of that because it sounds complicated and i hardly know what im doing lol

i plan to make more pc friends anyways, so

[somber sequoia]

yep, it's a lot of work, I don't usually bother now that we have imposters

[elfin flint]

This is my avatar but idk how to import to VRChat

[spark walrus]

still cant figure out why my avi flys when i jump tho

she never did that before when i uploaded her to my old acc, and i changed nothing

theres no colliders on her feet or anything

[somber sequoia]

there are many many tutorial videos on this topic, have you watched any?

[merry perch]

Does anyone know about the bugged trails? It appears fine normally but it appears bugged in mirrors/cameras

[somber sequoia]

explain what "bugged" means, maybe show a pic?

[elfin flint]

I did and I dont understand very well

[merry perch]

This happened after latest VRChat update

[elfin flint]

I dont have vrm converter

[merry perch]

It only appears bugged out like this in mirrors

[somber sequoia]

really not sure what I'm looking at here?

[merry perch]

The red thing is the trail

Snapping to a point

(Sorry for the ping)
Has happened to other people as well.

[somber sequoia]

is this a particle trail?

[merry perch]

Yes

[somber sequoia]

what is it supposed to do?

[merry perch]

It's just a trail that follows the tip of the knife

[somber sequoia]

"just a trail" could mean almost anything

[elfin flint]

What should I do?

[merry perch]

Particle trail that follows the tip of the knife, it is activated via a gesture when said knife is toggled on

[trim ingot]

First time buying and editing a model and it's a booth model this is all so confusing lol I tried to search the page to see what to import couldn't find anything so I just imported poi pro after making a project with creator companion and I fixed all the pink materials but it doesn't look right what so ever I wasn't sure if this is the place I need to go to ask or not but these 2-3 yo videos just don't help T_T

[junior void]

usually booth stuff for anime styled characters use liltoon shader

it will be in the dependencies list of the site

[trim ingot]

ohhh thank you so much!!

Is the "dependencies" here?? I translated it all and read it and I didn't see anywhere what to add or how T_T

[junior void]

it says compatible with liltoon and poiyomi. its possible the creator made material presets for both or either and its also possible that you overwrote the liltoon materials that were broken bc u used poi to "fix it"

ideally, the maker used named folders in the project and named materials

[trim ingot]

Okayy I will redo the project and try not importing anything but I looked through everything that was attached in the avatar file and I didnt see any materials so I imported poi but I could be wrong!

[left gull]

iirc it should have two prefabs for liltoon and for poiyomi

choose the Poi version and if it still gives pink materials then import a newer version of poiyomi to the project and remove the old one

[trim ingot]

I see this

[trim ingot]

oh

so i do need poi..

new project LOL

[left gull]

you dont need to re-make your project?

just import the shader from the actual site rather then using the one provided (if its provided) in the package

[junior void]

i assume the liltoon one will look a little more of whats expected here tho

[trim ingot]

Im sorry this is new to me I thought poi could only be imported before avatar

[trim ingot]

you might be right I am lost HAHA

[left gull]

it should be imported before an avatar but if the package includes the shader already then doing it after doesnt change anything

and visually i dont think theres much of a difference between poi and liltoon

both versions looked fine on velle

[trim ingot]

ohh ok yeah because it says there is a poi version and liltoon

so I just import poi and fix the pink? I did that if you see a little up and it looked just grey

[elfin flint]

I was about to finish the avatar and this appeared

[left gull]

from the screenshot the grey looks like you didnt drag the correct materials into the slot

the mesh is using locked standard materials

[trim ingot]

ohhh so I need to drag the materials there from the higharche?

I also opened this up and for her fur I do need liltoon

[somber sequoia]

you seem to have an empty scene.
Also, you don't need to import shaders first.

[trim ingot]

I havent dragged her in yet bc unsure what to do LOL

[somber sequoia]

it certainly helps prevent confusing new users to do it first though 🙂

[trim ingot]

I broke her the first time I did

Well I think I figured it out I dragged lil toon velle and then imported lil toon and boom she looks good

[night ember]

quest tools is fucked also why are you using dynamic bone

[mint verge]

i don't??? im pretty sure everything physbone

[mint verge]

alright removing quest tools helped

[junior void]

Please read the rules before posting. You will get scam dms from here. Please go to #1204506421631393913 discord as they have a verification system

[night ember]

small correction
you will only get scam dms here

[trim ingot]

I am back with a question or 2 I am curious as to why I don't have an animation tab near the left bottom next to project and console I am trying to add a skin swap and I dont know what is missing or wrong here

[lyric dagger]

For VRC Animator Play Audio. What is the setting so when for example I release a trigger, It transition to another animation where it plays the last bit of the audio.

Or is it better I just use Audacity to just cut this myself.

[junior void]

Top, click "window" - "animation/animator". Its normal for that window to not be standard

[trim ingot]

Ohh! Got it thank you so much

[somber sequoia]

I'd just cut it

[lyric dagger]

Yeh...

Oh well, improvise it is then.

[trim ingot]

These are showing pink but she looks fine would it be smart if I mess with them before I add my material swap? I wouldn't know what to even change them to.

[junior void]

previews can be broken when the materials are actually fine

so just test it first on the model? can always just do ctrl+z

dare to experiment

[trim ingot]

Hahaaa I think I will leave them because she looks fine I am just scared to mess it up and have to re do it all XD

[junior void]

if you think like that, you will never make the changes you always wanted to make :p

[night ember]

might I also recommend after making a layout you like with all that you need save the layout so if you ever lose it you can just reselect it on the top right

[trim ingot]

Thank youuu I am def going to need to do thisss

I am having a bit of an issue or idk but I duplicate the booger I go down to animation make a save for mat swap then click record go over 1 frame and when I try to drag the material it like shows I can drag it but nothing happens

am I doing something wrong

her body also like looks like tha

that

When I add the fbx to controller throught the right side it adds what I assume is the skin material swap "it shows on the animation" but I cant edit it or do anything

[somber sequoia]

probably watch a tutorial on how to make animations - you're probably missing a step here

And the body should go into that position when working with an animation in Unity, it's the default animation pose.

[trim ingot]

Okay I am watching this video but the girl is using a cube and I am doing everything she is but something isnt adding up thats why I came here for help I have been watching all kinds of videos

I did everything she did but my avatar fbx already had a skin material so its showing on there and its not letting me edit it

I made a dup and did it without the fbx in the controller but its still not letting me add the material and I am just confused

[trim ingot]

Can anyone else HELP me with this please<3

[junior void]

you may be trying to add the material in the material shader list on the avi/clothing whatever (are you dropping the material ball on top of the shader?)

if thats the case, you need to scroll up and expand "material" where you will find slots reflecting whats in the bottom

including pictures of what youre doing vastly helps understand on the helpers side

[trim ingot]

Okay give me a few min I will take a video of exactly what I am doing so you can better see!

[somber sequoia]

even just detailing the steps is a big help.

[trim ingot]

Here we go

[somber sequoia]

(let me watch it all first)

[obtuse echo]

Could somebody help me with making these 2d planes visible in unity? im trying to make an avatar from a model i made and rigged in blender. im using poiomi shader too and i think i can do it through that? but i dont know how

[trim ingot]

I'm sorry I don't know how to put all that into words I am so new

[left gull]

in the material you could turn backface culling OFF but that means quest users wont be able to see it have both sides with faces

[somber sequoia]

which material is on there already? Like Zero said, take a look at the material slots - if you're trying to add the one that's there, it won't record, but you can add a different one and then add the right one, and it'll record just the last thing you do

[obtuse echo]

how do i do this? im new to unity

[night ember]

Poiyomi

[trim ingot]

The one I was trying to drag is one I am adding I assume the dots there are the base material "skin color" that shows

[night ember]

Rendering options

[somber sequoia]

Yes, but again, which is already on there? that one?

[obtuse echo]

where do i find these? in assets?

[somber sequoia]

Settings on the material which is on the object you're working with

[trim ingot]

I assume the skin color one is already on there? its like explaining math to a toddler I am sorry i dont understand

[night ember]

The material

[trim ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ayasan-gif-24417454

[somber sequoia]

You'd have to check this yourself, we can't from here. But again, if the material you're trying to apply is already applied, it won't record that. You'd have to apply a different one, then apply the one you want so it records the last change.

[trim ingot]

The one I am trying to apply isnt on the avatar I imported it into the project that is it so I am wondering why its not working

[night ember]

The way to do it so quest can see it is duplicating the collar in blender and flipping normals on the duplicate since a face usually can only have 1 side

[trim ingot]

The material i am trying to add shows up for a second then goes away and I cant add it

[night ember]

Why not record what you are doing and send it here

[somber sequoia]

they did, it's linked a bit back

[night ember]

Oh

[night ember]

you arent even dragging it onto the clothing there

you hovered over the clothing for a split second which caused it to flash but you then immediately hovered over the arm instead

[scarlet roost]

Hey there, I'm trying export my vroid model from Blender as a fbx file, but no matter what I do, the textures are always missing, I need help -_-'

[trim ingot]

its for the skin

I am trying to make a skin swap from the skin color to the alien skin colors

[balmy barn]

get the mesh material slot and drag material into that

[trim ingot]

Thank you this might just do it I am going to try this

[obtuse echo]

does anyone know how to fix this texture issue? (1st image is intended look)

[trim ingot]

Well I am def getting somewhere but I dont know if I delete these or what I added face to the top one then body to the second one and it turned just the face

I assume because these are only for the face?

[night ember]

that just looks like a completely different image

[obtuse echo]

its the same image

[night ember]

is your head round then

[balmy barn]

shading? full lit wont do

[obtuse echo]

no

[night ember]

do you have blendshapes or something

[obtuse echo]

i dont think so?

[night ember]

that second image looks entirely intentional

[obtuse echo]

its not, i really dont know why the face it like that. everything else is fine

i even tried to redownload the texture and i had the same issue

[rugged crow]

Anyone here that can help me add an Mask to my avatar ?

[night ember]

just state your issue instead of asking to ask

[rugged crow]

Well I am trying to add an mask to my avatar but I dont really have a clue of what I am doing and want to make this work 🙄

[night ember]

if its just a mesh you can drop it onto the headbone then move and scale

[rugged crow]

it looks like this rn

[night ember]

well does it have bones

[rugged crow]

yes

[night ember]

theres stuff like armature link but its ehhhhhhhhhhh
but you can take both models into blender and just reparent the mask to the avatar's armature then change vertex group names if need and edit weight painting if also needed

[rugged crow]

🙃

[raven orbit]

do those faces have 5 vertices? they should have no more than four. your issue may be that when unity converts the mesh into triangles, it does so in a different pattern than blender is, thus distorting the texture. use the knife tool to cut those faces into quads or triangles

[rugged crow]

is this simple to do >?

[night ember]

weight painting can be complicated depending on what you need to do
but reparenting and changing vertex group names isnt

[obtuse echo]

hhhow do i do this?

[raven orbit]

knife tool

or, triangulate modifier (and applying it before export)

[somber sequoia]

I tend to just select two verts and j to join them, or maybe select a face and ctrl+t to triangulate it

[raven orbit]

cuts like this would work best here imo

[obtuse echo]

thank you sm!

[frosty summit]

Anyone knows how to fix this?

I have no idea how to read errors ._.

[balmy barn]

shader seems to be the issue

[night ember]

is there more errors than just that

[frosty summit]

no

these are the only "critical" ones that prevent the upload

[night ember]

anything is helpful

[frosty summit]

That's inside the shader thing, should I just remove it?

[somber sequoia]

it seems to be a broken shader, maybe it's missing an include, kinda hard to say without debugging

[frosty summit]

hm

[balmy barn]

easy test just remove whatever its on/ try another shader

[obtuse echo]

does look a bit better. thank you!!

[raven orbit]

could turn the other quads around the mouth into triangles to make absolutely sure that it shows up the same in unity as it does in blender. you may have to adjust the UV map

[obtuse echo]

i can try that

[obtuse echo]

these right?

[raven orbit]

yep, i would add additional cuts like this, switch to textured view, and adjust the UV map until it looks correct again

[frosty summit]

now im just left with these

after getting rid of those shaders

[obtuse echo]

didnt seem to really work. think im just gonna cut my losses and go with the good enough one

much thanks for the help tho

[night ember]

you typically wouldnt want ngons

[obtuse echo]

what the buns is a ngon

[spark walrus]

A polygon with more than 3/4 sides

:3

[night ember]

a not polygon

[obtuse echo]

ohhh

[spark walrus]

I mean it is a polygon

It's just that 3d software in general doesn't like ngons

[raven orbit]

a ngon is still a polygon

[night ember]

fair

but softwares usually get angy when trying to calculate them

[raven orbit]

yeah, thats why i told morg to cut it into quads/triangles

[frosty summit]

How do you normally supposed to read this error? Looking at it is just a lot of "VRCSDK" mentions ._.

[night ember]

thats just yelling at you it failed to build

thats all that is

[frosty summit]

ah

i've tried reuploading it on another project, still no avail

[night ember]

first one is a logging error
second one is telling you it failed using a system string that its cancelling the upload

show the entire console

[frosty summit]

just expand it and take a screenshot? or is there a way to

show it fully without making a mess in your eyes xD

[night ember]

screenshot the whole thing

[night ember]

does it even say anything in the sdk window

[frosty summit]

ill check again

nothing here

[night ember]

thats not the full window

[frosty summit]

i can't fit it all too long

from the top (2nd picture)

[night ember]

scroll all the way up

[frosty summit]

oki 1 sec

( hope im not missing what you're trying to help me with )

when it comes to uploading stuff and having it giving me errors, im dead x_x

[night ember]

what were the new errors when you tried uploading again

[frosty summit]

before

[frosty summit]

after

shader problem was "solved" just by banishing it (removing)

initially i thought i did something wrong when i was importing everything like poiyomi, so i opened a new project and made sure to upload everything in the correct order and have everything needed

wait. hold that thought? the 4th time I tried uploading it it said successful now? what the fuck unity 😭

it's fixed. Fixed by uploading it 4 times in a row.

[tribal notch]

how to get marissa package

3. Import Marissa's package.

[hardy meteor]

Ok I have an avatar bio lumi made by I am soul that when the finger tracking update came out a few months ago completely made a mess of the fingers and the look like spaghetti changing tracking settings does not fix it and I reuploaded the avatar to see if something happened to it but in unit and blender the fingers are fine and what is especially weird is when you look in a mirror or camera in game the fingers are completely fine but not for me or any user

[gilded raft]

can't upload due to these errors in the validations bit of the sdk uploader thing. I don't have these in my params list (i either renamed, or deleted and created with a new name. idk). the select buttons takes me to the same submenu, which doesn't use the listed params, nor do the submenus it links to. . .

[night ember]

it thinks theres a submenu with them somewhere

[gilded raft]

well, i've checked all my submenus, animators, anything that might use/have used the params. but nothing. it just doesn't exist.

[somber sequoia]

there's a stupid bug here. If you made a new menu item and the last one was a submenu, it might make a new one that's also a submenu, and if you don't delete the actual linked in there menu, just changing the menu item type, it doesn't clear that out, and this happens.

you can find it if you grep the actual menu files to figure out which one still has that data lingering

there's a canny reported for this, yes.

ooh several actually

[gilded raft]

so, if i delete the submenus its pointing at, then set the menus up again, it should be sorted?
or i guess i could always add the params to the list and just have some useless params floating about. . .

[somber sequoia]

you have to find the parameter which has a hidden submenu item inside it, then delete that

[gilded raft]

ahh, i see. yup, that fixed it. thanks!

[obtuse echo]

what does this mean?

[somber sequoia]

excellent

?upload

[flat musk]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[somber sequoia]

this

[obtuse echo]

ohhh

okay so i just have to play the game then

[gilded raft]

i think vrc+ also just bumps you straight there

[somber sequoia]

yep

[night ember]

it boosts you enough for another level but not outright just skips past the requirement of being new user

[warped scroll]

Can someone please tell me why this is happening when I try to update my model?

[somber sequoia]

Show all 6 errors please

[somber sequoia]

just a simple list is probably fine in these cases. But that infinite loop one is interesting..

[warped scroll]

i found the thing its pointing to

[somber sequoia]

I'd probably restart Unity, and if that doesn't work, shut it down, delete the Library folder in your project, and start it back up again. Which will take a while.

oh?

[warped scroll]

the oculus spatializer or whatever?

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's not out of the ordinary

[warped scroll]

okay it looks like that worked

thank you

[placid mica]

Why do my materials keep zooming in??? It's so annoying!

[somber sequoia]

at a guess, UV mapping?

[placid mica]

I don't know what that is

[balmy barn]

very much uv trying to put a square image on that

[placid mica]

How can I fix it

[balmy barn]

blender or fiddle with material texture setting offset/scale

[somber sequoia]

If you didn't make the asset, find the included texture and edit your image to look like it does

or maybe offset/scale yeah

[placid mica]

Thats what I had done and it still did this

[balmy barn]

dumb exsample 99.99% not like yours look- a uv and you are trying to fit a square thing on it

[placid mica]

These are the given instuctions

[somber sequoia]

oh, that's nice of them to include

[gloomy flint]

can you show what you're doing with it?

like show the way youre texturing the uv

[placid mica]

I dont even know what a uv is

[balmy barn]

put image into gimp/photoshop ect put uv texture on it thats the visible part , scale your image to fit

[gloomy flint]

^

liiike for example i have one i can show

[placid mica]

Photoshop is so hard to use, I dont know how to import multiple photos into one project

whenever I try it puts them on like seperate tabs

[raven orbit]

copy from one tab paste into the other

[gloomy flint]

i would put this image in first (only posting a partial snipping tool bci it is part of an asset texture) in like Krita

and i would take the photos i WANT to use for it, and open up a new layer

and then i would stretch and crop the photos to fit the colored squares

to get this type of layout

if i put the full texture into my asset's material, it'll show the photos fitted perfectly into the frames

What you would do is take the UV image and open it up on Krita or Photoshop or Gimp and then take the photo you want to put in the frame and then crop it to fit within the heart shape

and then you would simply export that as its own texture

which means basically, png.

[placid mica]

..whhat

uhhh

[gloomy flint]

,, ok u know what i'll be nice send me the UV png and the photos you want to put on the frames in my dms and i'll crop it for u

[placid mica]

I appreciate that so much 😭

[gloomy flint]

np

[young cairn]

would anyone know why VRC says my triangle count goes up to 2.14billion when I add a sword to my armatures hand? I checked the model in blender and the sword is only 3k tris

[raven orbit]

make sure the model is set to read/write in the mesh import settings

[young cairn]

it was

[gloomy flint]

lowkey kind of funny

the 2.14 billion tri sword

[raven orbit]

on the sword? cause that's kind of the only reason it would have a number like that

[young cairn]

yes

[half ice]

wanan buy it

[raven orbit]

https://ptb.discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1138520828556890214

[jovial spoke]

trying this again. is it possible to make facial expressions for gestures using facial bones like jaw, eyelid_L and R on my model

i've used this tutorial before and the animations don't work in game https://youtu.be/UU9NFJz2qls

[solid ingot]

Hey everyone, I'm a relatively new user trying to make my first avatar (as a gift for a friend), but my account doesn't have enough trust rating yet. If I buy a VRC+ subscription, will that immediately give me enough trust to build avatars?

[spark walrus]

Yes you will be coming a user when you buy VR Plus+ your trust will boost

[solid ingot]

Okay, thank you so much

[spark walrus]

👍 when you do that just try to make sure relaunch it VRChat

[tall carbon]

Im using the skullbeast and i uploaded it for a basic test to find it is stuck in tpose even when moving, the physbones work but not the rig. i know im probably missing a step but cannot for the life of me remember what it is

[obtuse echo]

Lowkey could I send someone my avatar model to have them rig it for me in unity to be a vrchat avatar? Cause my rigs geek the hell out whenever I touch them 😭

I do not know what is wrong with them and I’ve been at this for about 5 hours now I have no idea what I’m doing

[arctic ginkgo]

Yes. If you want to animate a humanoid mapped bone, you need to do it on a layer that isnt the FX layer (usually action or gesture for non-locomotion animations, or additive for additive idles), and you need to use animation control in order to animate them on any layer that isn't the Base layer.

Here are what each layers do:

Base: this is basically your tracking. If you do not have tracking for a specific bone, these animations are what play. For desktop users this controls the whole player, for 3pt vr this controls legs, torso, etc (just not head and hands), and for fbt this controls anything else you don't have trackers/tracking for (like elbows, eyes, etc).

Additive: uses special additive animations to add motion on top of the base layer

Gesture: used for animating transforms and humanoid bones. Mostly reserved for hand animations, but this can kind of do anything the FX layer can do + animate humanoid bones, but like the base layer these act as "tracking" for those who don't have it (so if you don't have finger/hand tracking like an index controller or quest hand tracking, these animations take over). This might be a good layer to animate eyes and jaw on as well.

Action: this layer animates only humanoid bones, but also takes over whatever other humanoid animations play on any other layer (based on the masking and animation control). This is commonly used for emotes/dances.

FX: used for anything that isn't humanoid bones. You can animate non-humanoid transforms this way, as well as properties of any gameobject and component (blendshapes, transforms, constraints, physbones, materials, etc)

Also by default you cannot animate humanoid bones the same way as regular transforms. I personally find it easier to animate in blender then export my fbx with the animations embedded, but there is a unity tool designed to help with animating humanoid transforms within unity

[tall carbon]

dont mind my friend in the background, heres a video

[night ember]

rig the fbx as humanoid

[tall carbon]

how does one fix that?

[night ember]

click on the fbx in assets folder

theres a rig tab for it

[jovial spoke]

I need to mention that my eyelids and jaw bones are used for eyelook and jawflap in the descriptor. Basically i want the blinking and lipsync to stop when i do my expressions

[merry thistle]

How to fix this?

[tall carbon]

turned it off and on

nothing changed

would anyone be willing to hop in a call and help me with the unity process

[tough token]

is it possible to change the animation of the point itself and not just link a facial animation to it

[fleet zephyr]

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[tall pumice]

Specials menu changes a param to 1 as toggle, param tab has param named Knife. Blend tree has Knife Param as float. Changing the value to 1 switches to knife 1. But nothing actually.. Happens. The animations don't play. Any ideas? Do I need to communicate the params somehow?

My animations also have Constant 0 stream 1? but the other animations on this model have constant 1 stream 0

Not sure what that means

They are both 0 frame toggles for skinned mesh renderers

My knife animation should set the c_eternal_reward gameobject's skinned mesh renderer to 0

[arctic ginkgo]

Yep, you will need to use the tracking control state behavior

[jovial spoke]

This is much harder than i thought it would be

[timber wharf]

🤷‍♂️being generic is always easier

[tall pumice]

I think my animation just isnt working for whatever reason

Its staying visible even when I test it, which means the first animation isnt even playing properly (the animation to hide it by default)

Finally figured out and fixed my issue, realized. You can't make animations on packed files or whatever, you have to unpack them

[somber sequoia]

er... that's not quite accurate

[fallen cobalt]

I've noticed some worlds that have item attachment systems are flipped 180 for my avatar, and I'm aware that this is an issue with avatar development that occurs sometimes but have no clue how it happens or how to fix it...

I've seen in Unity that when I enter play mode, the position my avatar faces is flipped 180 degrees, but again have no clue why this happens really?

[tough token]

any1?

[night ember]

gesture layer

[tough token]

i click on fx and go to the layers and it shows left hand and right hand

i can change the animations attached to each gesture but it doesnt do anything it just does the regular animation in vrchat

[night ember]

gesture layer not fx

[tough token]

where can i find that then

[night ember]

same place where you put the fx layer

[tough token]

i copied the fx i use to assets

[night ember]

the avatar descriptor

[somber sequoia]

no, the one on your avatar - click the avatar root, look in the inspector, somewhere in there is the list of animator layers

[tough token]

this?

[somber sequoia]

no, that's the animator component. But on that object should also be the avatar descriptor

[somber sequoia]

ok so you have the default gesture layer

if you want to make gesture animations, you'll need to make a gesture layer and put animations there

[tough token]

how do i make one

[somber sequoia]

I don't have a link to docs or tutorial available, sorry

[tough token]

cant i just use the default

but change it

like as a template

[somber sequoia]

there's a sample one in the SDK somewhere

[tough token]

uh

what would it even look like

this is so confusing

[somber sequoia]

Packages/com.vrchat.avatars/Samples/AV3 Demo Assets/Animation/Controllers

(sorry, doing other things too)

[tough token]

which controller would i use for a gesture layer

the hand ones are identical to the fx layer i made

[somber sequoia]

I forget, I just knew where the samples are

[merry thistle]

.

[tough token]

i think i found a video on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0xsHGWBR8g

[merry thistle]

Dose anyone know how to fix this?

[north atlas]

And? did you check the console?

[somber sequoia]

are you on the right Unity version?

[merry thistle]

Yes

[tough token]

i figured it out

the video i watched wasnt showing me what i thought

he was explaining how to attach things like a dissolve animation to a gesture

but watching him i figured out i had to make a new controller and replace the gesture with my own animation and then use the gesture index to link it to the gesture i replaced

now it works

[west cipher]

need some advice! im trying to optimize an avatar but seems like nothing is making it work. ive crunched the textures. deleted practically everything off it. it doesnt have any vrcfurry assets, not even gogo. i even tried deleting everything off the model and it still was somehow above the 10mb limit

none of the materials other than the body itself has any textures and all those are only 512

[ornate stump]

Did you start build again to make it recalculate the size?

[west cipher]

yes, it goes down only a few points, if i leave the one outfit its 12.5mb if i delete everything its 10.45

[ornate stump]

The mesh itself (nearly translated to polygon count) also is a big contributor to the size.

[daring lark]

Hey so I’m almost done with making this custom avatar

When is blender it wouldn’t allow me to atlas the materials

In

So I went to the previous “unoptimized version and atlases it

[west cipher]

im not entire sure how to decimate in a way to not make it look like an old lara croft game

[daring lark]

I’m trying to get this on my model from this png

I used chat gpt but it looks very wrong

Here’s the atlas png

How my character looks after trying to apply it

[ornate stump]

When it started to look like the old lara croft game then increase the number a bit. Blendshapes are also big contributor to the mesh size, to make sure to delete any unused blendshape.

[steady summit]

can I use a second Expression Menu as submenu? I tried and my toggles just don't work and I did everything like always but this time I didn't use a GoLoco submenu

[ornate stump]

VRCFury also has a tool to bake blendshapes which should help reducing size from blendshapes significantly.

[west cipher]

do you mind telling me how to get to the tool?

[ornate stump]

Google search should yield as the first result.

[pine heath]

forwarding this cus i legit have no idea whats causing it, comissioned to get the entire thing re rigged it still does it

[raven orbit]

in blender are the eye bones pointing straight up?

[pine heath]

yes

would using the cats plugin do this?

[hollow meteor]

im trying to add physbones to the egirl base chest but its not working.. can anyone help?

[ornate stump]

Do you see bone gizmos show when you added physbone?

[daring lark]

How do I fix?

[regal leaf]

Finally trying to fix the avatar-

This is what we're trying to fix

[ornate stump]

Can you be more specific what "this"?

[regal leaf]

The model clipping into the ground

[ornate stump]

That's called bike pose. Use Pumkin avatar tool to reset the pose.

[regal leaf]

Better seen here-

Pumpkin avatar tool? Alright! I'll go look for that!

I've been trying to fix this for a while, oops

[hollow meteor]

no I dont and I have them on and I know the base has bones cause it shows them in blender

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot bone hierarchy where you added the physbone in unity?

[ornate stump]

Since each bone chain has only one bone so you have to set endpoint position for each physbone.

[hollow meteor]

how do I do that?

[ornate stump]

See "Endpoint Position" in physbone component.

[hollow meteor]

oh yes

[hollow meteor]

what do I put it to?

[ornate stump]

Whatever number that make your bone gizmos appear and look correct.

[hollow meteor]

I cant figure out what to make it they're long gizmos is that normal?