avatar-help

[feral isle]

Where would i be able to find the maps?

[somber sequoia]

I'd have no idea without actually looking in your project.

Also your materials may not use maps, you'd have to go look

[feral isle]

this is basically everything in the avatar, every texture and then there is the colors and eye textures, i changed it all to 1024

[somber sequoia]

map textures aren't going to be in the hierarchy, they'll be added to materials, if you have them at all.

oh that's the project view - still there's no way to tell from that.

[feral isle]

this is basically all that is shown in the avatars textures, basically the same for every single one of them.

[pallid dove]

So I edited my proxy gestures to have facial expressions on them but for some reason it's saying I have an invalid parameter index?

[dense dove]

hey so like

ive had this issue for a while and havent been able to use audiolink on my avis at all because of it

does anyone know how to fix it??? i use poiyomi 8.0 for this

(pls ping reply!)

[ornate stump]

You could also update poiyomi 9 too.

[dense dove]

I have it, and it does the same thing with the ui, I only use 8.0 bc it's the version a friend of mine uses and they can help me if I need it :')

[upbeat sluice]

running into a weird problem were one part of the clothing is being partially scaled up or moved not sure which

[pure oyster]

Why is my avatar not passing security checks if it is not high memory and I’m using the latest SDK?

[somber sequoia]

is it a separate object? If so, make sure it's at the right location (usually the origin), make sure the armature isn't in a pose

[upbeat sluice]

same object

i think i have an idea what might be the cause but not sure if it is because of the armature

ok it was not that

[somber sequoia]

last idea is there's a shape key active

[upbeat sluice]

all the shape keys are set to 0 in both unity and blender

[rancid scaffold]

Can someone upload an avatar for me? I’ve tried to do it myself but I can’t.

[somber sequoia]

That's a big security problem, you shouldn't do that.

[nocturne cave]

you might be able to click on it and shift the size toward the right, for me it looks like this

depending on if the outfit is scratch or an assest im not too sure

[upbeat sluice]

scratch

scaling can't be don't since the outfit is only scaled by the armuture

plus only that part in the image is the problem the rest is in its proper place

[nocturne cave]

def gonna have to take it back to blend😭

wish you luck

[upbeat sluice]

any idea why though?

and thank you

[sweet acorn]

If i want the pc version to display a certain way when I'm on quest I need to change the way it looks before uploading right? How?
What should i search for tutorial if it isn't super simple

Like if I want a specific outfit or hair color

[timber wharf]

what

if you can change stuff on quest, pc version should do the same and use same parameter list

if its static then ye, just make it look the same. but if its fixed then its a bad idea to keep unused stuff

[sweet acorn]

The version i have has different base skin colors on quest. I don't think i can edit the parameter on quest since it's gonna be stuck d default

[night ember]

you really shouldnt have different parameter lists between the pc and quest builds

[sweet acorn]

If i log in on pc ans change them will they stay when I switch to quest?

[timber wharf]

use same menu/params on pc and quest

then you can change it on quest, it wont do shit for you but will for pc people

[sweet acorn]

Will blueprint pipeline link those or do i need to set up single project

[heavy zephyr]

They are already linked if you show up to quest and PC people

[timber wharf]

yes blueprint is what links your avis

[night ember]

the blueprint id is entirely what links the avatars together

[timber wharf]

as long as id is the same

[sweet acorn]

So say the quest version doesn't have the parameter slider, and I upload pc with blue black skin default, and quest with white skin.

[timber wharf]

if quest also doesnt have a synced param for that slider, pc should remain as uploaded

once again, if you dont need options on pc, try to not upload unused stuff, remove layer for skin color pick from pc's fx controller alltogether

dont make people download and store in vram textures they will never see

[sweet acorn]

Yeah cool. I just bought an avatar and want to know how to change the default look before uploading. I'm not a unity guy

A tutorial link would be cool

I do want the features when I'm on pc

[timber wharf]

k, then just find menus/params on pc version and make quest use the same ones

thats the easies way

itll remeber whatever you used when on pc, and you can also change it while on quest

(without quest users seeing it but ye)

[uneven vessel]

So i tried something to get the network synce for an asset im working on but im not sure how to config the remote side any tips?

[timber wharf]

whats the isse

seems fine

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure why you'd need that AnyState transition, but otherwise yeah, looks ok

[timber wharf]

ah ye remove anystate

[night ember]

tbh if it were me doing it Id just split it between 2 layers
one handling the parameter entirely local
one handling the animation transitions using anystate

[heady raptor]

anyone familiar with making normal maps by baking from high poly mesh can help me?

[timber wharf]

@night ember nah, thats the right way, saving the layer is always good

[night ember]

fair enough

[sweet acorn]

Thanks!

[timber wharf]

@heady raptor uh just increase ray distance?

[uneven vessel]

so on my side (local side) my animation transistions work fine as intended but others cant see the animation im not sure if i set the params correctly as i just did the opposite of what i did for the local side

[timber wharf]

wha

you create extra synced bool

you use parameter driver locally to set it to true/false on top of showing you animation

you use that bool to transition between remote states

well, its not "extra" since its the only synced bool youd need

local stuff is driven by contacts

[uneven vessel]

ohhhhh thank u ill give that a go i was following what someone else told lol

[copper carbon]

is there a way to raise and lower your avatar while using fbt?
ive tried gogoloco but the radial thingie just doesnt work

[gloomy flint]

OVR

[timber wharf]

ye, only steam+ovr i believe

[gloomy flint]

OVR Advanced Toolkit more precise. If you get it off of Github, it's free but you won't get regular updates, but the Steam Version is now paid for

[heady raptor]

nah doesn' twork, i could simply send the .blend file, it's the first time i'm trying this method :p

[copper carbon]

i have ovr but my pc cant run pcvr so i was wondering if there was some prefab or smthn

[upbeat sluice]

@nocturne cave @somber sequoia thank you too for the help turns out the problem was me doing all transforms

[heady raptor]

i usually do normals manually from drawing and converting, but i don't like it much. The way that's most functional is using substance painter, but i'm way too dumb to learn that program

[gloomy flint]

substance painter was actually stupid easy

you open up the spp file for the avatar you want if it has one, and you can literally just paint on the avatar's model or the UV for it, and then you expore the textures

[heady raptor]

there's the thing, i made my model/avatar from scratch

[gloomy flint]

oh my god im stupid i forgot novapie has a folder dedicated to physbones and they arent actually on the armature

vaporizing myself off the fucking planet rn

ok i have a new issue

[somber sequoia]

me too

[gloomy flint]

i fixed one issue and found another lmao

[somber sequoia]

yep, been doing that all day here

[gloomy flint]

the dress is set to collide with the legs (fine), the issue is it goes through the legs at pretty much any forward momentom besides like.. .1 lmao..

I want to know how to fix that because I've see avatars where short skirts dont just fly through the body using colliders, because 1: well fix this avatar
2: i have the information for future skirt wearers

[somber sequoia]

skirts are so much fun!

[gloomy flint]

they are 🙂

i love skirts and dresses but aughhhh

[somber sequoia]

please, give us Magica Cloth

[balmy barn]

colliders aren't reliable, physbone angle limits / weight paints or constraints better , skirts just painful

[somber sequoia]

yep.

[gloomy flint]

i'll look probably into constraints because I tried angle limits and they arent reliable for this

[balmy barn]

rotated bones on skirt to face inward ? or angle limits not really any good for skirt

[gloomy flint]

i think one reason its having issues is due to the fact that the physbones on the skirt are rather small, so they slip through the gap between the leg colliders

[balmy barn]

colliders just bad, can clip any easy , angle limits no way they ever get near your mesh unless you contort in fbt

[somber sequoia]

yeah I've tried that a few times, it gets kinda close but just not good enough

[gloomy flint]

i think the issue it was having was due to the gap in the leg colliders hilariously enough because if i added a hip collider it doesnt clip through

unless it goes ABOVE the collider

maybe i'll do a small mishmash of angle limits with a better collider size and see how that looks

angle limits so it cant go above the colliders or all the way backwards, but the colliders so that they move with the legs if i use gogo or walk

[somber sequoia]

yeah but to fix it you need a hilarious number of bone chains

[balmy barn]

some random skirt weightpaint & collider test i did some time ago, no colliders needed but easy enought to derp out if you sit certain ways

[somber sequoia]

oh that moves pretty well

[gloomy flint]

thats better

novapie released pip as a free avatar and the physbones make it feel SO rushed

theres other things but yeah having to go through and fix them is agh

why is there a thing where the max stretch 999

im going to vaporize my soul why is this plushie at 999 stretch oh my god

im going to move to general avatar now bc i figured out my issues but damn

[stoic bobcat]

so i tried this, it only has 8 emotes now, only reduced it by 1.5mb, so I have no clue what the hell is taking so much space onit

[spark walrus]

how would i import these? its vrcfury compatible and i cant figure out how to add it

its custom menu icons

[gloomy flint]

you go to your menu configurations and select the icon they'll use

[somber meadow]

Should probably look at the instructions included, If I were to guess you'd just drag that prefab onto your avatar's root object in the hierarchy

[gloomy flint]

i usually just do this bc its easier lol

[spark walrus]

no instructions haha

[gloomy flint]

but make sure you have gesture manager put on the project then try dragging it to the hierarchy of the avatar and test it in unity

[spark walrus]

it was just a free asset posted in the server

[gloomy flint]

if it doesnt work with just a hierarchy i'd just go the long route tbh

[spark walrus]

and someone made it vrcfury compatible

[spark walrus]

i have no idea what that means lol im not very experienced

[gloomy flint]

yeah, do that, then test in gesture manager

[spark walrus]

yeah i did that then did an offline test and they arent showing

[somber meadow]

just use gesture manager to test things, offline build and test is jank

[spark walrus]

its working in gesture manager thank you!

how do i close gesture manager lol

[gloomy flint]

click the play button at the top

[spark walrus]

ty

[gloomy flint]

how do i turn on audio in VRCC to test if the audio i put on something works?

oh,, i found it,,,,

[somber sequoia]

you realize that VRCC, if you mean Creator Companion, merely launches the Unity editor for you, and you're using Unity right now, right?

[gloomy flint]

,,, u realize that doesnt matter right

[somber sequoia]

it's good to use the correct terms for things, so people understand what you're talking about.

[gloomy flint]

https://tenor.com/bXzE2.gif

brother if i say 'how do i listen to audio i put in an avatar' people know i'm not talking about the project list

[somber sequoia]

have you been here long? 'cause I'm not so sure about that...

[gloomy flint]

common sense isnt common but its not my problem. i found how to listen to audio so i dont need help with it anymore.

[sand apex]

I have a problem where my normal maps are breaking my textures and look like this on quest. How do I fix this?

[queen nimbus]

Is it possible to paint avatars or assets in 3D format on the iPad? I'm having a hard time with the 2D maps

[somber sequoia]

I thought ProCreate could deal with 3D models in some way - I'd try looking at that.

[raven orbit]

it doesn't have a way to mirror paint 🥲

[somber sequoia]

oof

I haven't actually used it, just watched my partner use it a lot

[queen nimbus]

Damn 🫠

[modest oxide]

How do I make a custom animation? Like an animation of one tripping? Is that all done through unity? Because when I try to rotate one of the limbs of my avatar with the record button active. It reverts back to the default state.

[somber sequoia]

You have to use the muscle movements in the animator, you can't rotate humanoid bones directly. But I'd probably do an IK setup in Blender and animate there, it's likely to be much easier. Or maybe find one you like at mixamo.com

[night ember]

itd be infinitely easier to just find a mocap or make a simulation of it in blender that is converted to animation

[somber sequoia]

yep

[modest oxide]

fair fair. Thank you for the direction!! I was trying and I was hoping to create a frame by frame there in unity but I had no idea that mixamo existed. Honestly supirsed been doing these avatars for 4 years now lolol

[somber sequoia]

they have a lot of really good ones

[cerulean robin]

Hey, sorry again. I've mentioned this earlier in the day but this issue is still persisting no matter how many edits I make to the bone.

It looks and works a-okay in config and animation, looks good in the main window

But when I go to hit play the thumb deforms and breaks outward

I've reset bone rolls, I've changed weight paints, I've moved the bones, I've completely redone the bones in the hand

Yet this issue persists

And it's honestly driving me a little crazy lmao

Even in blender it looks just fine

[queen nimbus]

Does I only have to import the FBX ?

[spark walrus]

Cant drag any pictures or files into my VRC related unity projects, but non vrc related it works. Whats going on?

[junior void]

Define cant

[spark walrus]

my cursor turns into 🚫

[raven orbit]

you can fix it in the muscle settings

[spark walrus]

as im dragging the file over unity, and i have uodated my unity hub, my creator companion, restarted my computer, ensured i am admin for unity, and made sure i was dragging the file into the assets folder and still wont work

This only began happening suddenly today

[somber sequoia]

I haven't used it so can't help further

[raven orbit]

procreate can import OBJ and USDZ https://help.procreate.com/procreate/handbook/3d-painting/import

if you convert an FBX to OBJ you should still be able to use any exported textures, as long as the UV Map is the same

[cerulean robin]

You're a lifesaver, the deformity seems to have fixed, but the issue I'm having now is that the thumbs seem to be moving on the wrong axis, if that makes sense?

[queen nimbus]

why keep it simple when you can make it complicated
😂
But ty

[raven orbit]

i think thats intentional how it's supposed to look for that slider

[cerulean robin]

Aaaaah, gotcha. Guessing I should make it so the fingers curl over the thumb via the muscles instead of vice versa?

[raven orbit]

yeah probably

[cerulean robin]

I'm also thinking that the weight painting I have for the thumb isn't enough in comparison to the rest of the fingers

[raven orbit]

this stuff is confusing me too cause i was having the same issue with the hands on one of my avatars today, and now looking at it in playmode i cant tell if the muscle settings even changed anything 😭

[cerulean robin]

Ooooh yeah, that might be a bit of an issue

Gotta add more red to the respective digits

It honestly might just be worthwhile making some custom hand gestures instead

Freedom at last

[solemn saddle]

how do i fix this? This is a PC only avi btw -

[austere bay]

honestly I'd just redo the materials

idk whats happening there

transparencies are messed up definitely

but probably a lot of other things too

or check you imported all the right shaders

and the right version of the shaders

[solemn saddle]

poiyomi was the only one that they told me to put in

[solemn saddle]

im using my latest one

[austere bay]

if it's an older avatar it may need an older version of poiyomi?

[solemn saddle]

in general this avi was a little confusing, since the fact i have to put the materials to the correct shader

[austere bay]

ah, honestly it seems like there was issues with the import for either the shader or the avatar

like I said; I'd just start from scratch if it were me, or you can mess around importing packages until it works

idk how else to fix it :(

[queen nimbus]

What was a uv map ?

[austere bay]

basically maps where the texture should show on the mesh

[solemn saddle]

i might just delete it in total, sadly :')

[somber sequoia]

could be you don't have "alpha is transparency" checked on your albedo texture files

[austere bay]

the face looks very not right though

idk if that's transparencies

[somber sequoia]

mostly I was guessing based on the red stuff, blush usually has an alpha component

otherwise, it's hard to tell without seeing material settings.

[modest oxide]

With animations again for Avatars. How do I reset the avatar so that it is no longer in the animation state? Like would I need to set the animation to default? I used a trip animation. But when the animation is over I want it to auto revert back to the default so that it is just normal and in the default again. If this is possible

[somber sequoia]

I just choose a different animation from the dropdown, and it resets back to the rest pose

oh you don't mean in the editor?

It depends on how you have the animation layer setup, if you use WriteDefaults on then it'll just auto-revert after the animation state is left

[modest oxide]

Well I wanted the Trip animation to happen without a toggle. I wanted it to happen when I join into a world. The avatar trip and then stay laying down for about 5 seconds and then get up and revert back to default without a toggle. If this is possible.

[somber sequoia]

sure. entry -> play trip animation -> play an empty animation clip

probably do this in the Action layer, with appropriate tracking control and such

[modest oxide]

Ooh okay okay I will try thiss

Would it be something like this? I also have this set as a Bool

[somber sequoia]

seems reasonable

oh well you'll want to have another state to setup the tracking and layer weight - see the docs on how to do things in the Action layer

[spark walrus]

How can I get particles to show up in the mirror? The particles show up on a camera but I cant figure out how to get them to show in a mirror.

[somber sequoia]

set the renderer to render back-sides, by default it'll only render fronts

[spark walrus]

Where is that at?

[somber sequoia]

in the shader

[spark walrus]

I think its already set to backs?

[somber sequoia]

culling the back means it's not rendering the back

[modest oxide]

I went and tried something out with the actions layer. However. The animation plays perfectly in unity but in vrchat the animation still plays but only when I walk I'm not sure why that is. At least the first time. It only plays properly when I walk. After It plays a second time because I took off the empty animation clip so that it could loop again. It just works when I walk which is odd. I used Vrcemote for the transistion arrows. And it works in unity perfectly but not in vrchat I circles what I added to the actions layer the PrepareTRIP is a copy of the Prepare Standing

[iron kindle]

Figure I should ask here, does anyone know how to increase the range of blendshapes?

[agile spruce]

May I please ask where does one get started on an avatar commission?

[iron kindle]

Try the VRCtraders server

[agile spruce]

Discord Link, my friend?

[iron kindle]

Sent it as a DM

[agile spruce]

Much obliged.

I’ll have to set up the description thingy majig tommorow.

[somber sequoia]

The link for that is in #1204490664637890580 too

[somber sequoia]

you don't in Unity, but you can do it in Blender. Kinda weird though, since it has to interpolate where the vertices go, it may not be where you expect

(aside: I bet you can in Unity by scripting)

[iron kindle]

I figured it was in blender, Just need to figure out how to do it, I can get the sizes I want by over doing the slider values, just need to figure out how to set that as the 100 value

[somber sequoia]

one way is that you can apply a blendshape to basis, then if you apply it again it'll double

you can also increase the range

[iron kindle]

Can you link to a tutorial?

[somber sequoia]

I don't have one

but there's a "max" right below the value setting for a given shapekey

[iron kindle]

I got a lot of stuff to learn about lol

[somber sequoia]

don't we all 🙂

[white sundial]

I'm currently blocking out most of what's soon to be a low poly chibi model

is this geometry for the head good, the reference is a rough draft since it's isn't exactly able to adapt to 3d 1 to 1

but it's been a very long time since i've worked on retro style low poly

any feedback is appreciated

the backside is mostly just one big blob lol but i didnt see how else to do it

[half hamlet]

No experience in blender: is it possible to ‘split’ an existing bone of a rig into two bones? The existing rig doesn’t have enough bones for me to use it in VRC

[ornate stump]

If you're asking for "one click to get it done" then no. You'd have to manually split, possibly retopo, and weight paint again.

[mint sphinx]

dose anyone know how i can fix this?
she has the blendshapes and they work in unity and blender but not in vrc, iv made all the animations and toggles already and i dont wanna have to start over

[half hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-some-of-these-words-mhmm-clueless-words-i-know-gif-5609882

Well damn my funny joke failed

But still thanks for the answer, wish I knew how to do half of that

[ornate stump]

Knowing nothing isn't a funny joke.

[white sundial]

Id guess your issue is in the script part of the avatar

When you're setting up the stuff for the avatar properties

Did you use vrchats defaults?

[mint sphinx]

im useing these so yes? i think

[white sundial]

Is your head part of this body mesh?

[mint sphinx]

no, its just called body bc i didnt change the name

[white sundial]

Its hard to see the inspect tree

You gotta select the mesh that contains your head

[mint sphinx]

thats what i have ;^;

[somber sequoia]

if you select that mesh object in the scene and go to the inspector, then in the blendshapes list, does changing the value of one of these actually affect the face?

[mint sphinx]

yes

wait no

huhh

it did

wait yes, ok, yes it changes

everything works in unity just not vrc

[somber sequoia]

oh I see it in your video, good. You can test visemes in the editor in play mode with Lyuma's AV3 emulator

(maybe gesture manager too - I'm not familiar with it)

[mint sphinx]

i use gest, i dont think you can

where can i get Lyuma's AV3 emulator?

[somber sequoia]

VCC

[agile spruce]

That server was a big waste of my time! But still thanks anyways... punk.

[ornate stump]

Why is it though?

[iron kindle]

How am I the punk?

[agile spruce]

Bad timing I suppose.

[agile spruce]

And for you! You need to learn how to take a joke.

[iron kindle]

You got to learn to carry the joke, I left it open for further funny

[mint sphinx]

it still dosnt work

;^;

[agile spruce]

Whatever.

[mental mirage]

does anyone have any idea why the long hair in the front is working fine while the rest of the hair is glowing in low light worlds? the texture and material and shader are all the same

[mint sphinx]

that would be somthing with the tex/shader that your useing

[ornate stump]

Have you set anchor probe for all object?

[mental mirage]

i have the shadow and reflector probes set

if that is what you mean

[mental mirage]

ill look to see if there is another mat that i missed or something

[ornate stump]

That should be called anchor probe. Just to be sure, can sure screenshot where you set it?

[mental mirage]

can do in a bit

[mental mirage]

the only "probe" i know of

[ornate stump]

Anchor override.

So they're the same on all object?

[mental mirage]

all on the same thing for the hair yes

[ornate stump]

Then you should take a look in the material settings. Usually something for Min Brightness and Monochromatic Light options, or something with similar wording depends on shader.

[mental mirage]

oh yep had some missing mats guess i diddnt save that when unity crashed earlier oops

we good now thank you so much!

[mellow vigil]

Does anyone know how to make a toggle that moves while its toggles. I made a prop with an animation that inlarges and shoots it foward, but when I make the toggle it doesn't do anything. It just sits there in its default state

[ornate stump]

Did you record it to move?

[mellow vigil]

in blender yes

and the fbx imported with an animation attached to it

[ornate stump]

How is the animation being used? Is the fbx itself is the avatar root, or you put the fbx on another avatar model and put the animation on avatar playable layers?

[mellow vigil]

I took the fbx animation and all, and slapped it on the avatar. Then made an animation for the fbx that toggles it on and off, did I miss a step that makes it play the animation on the fbx?

[ornate stump]

The animation that came in fbx file suppose to be used on animator of the fbx file itself. If you use it on avatar animator then it won't match the path.

[mellow vigil]

Ok, do you know I can fix it? I know it has a working animation, it plays in unity just fine

[ornate stump]

Either you have to manually change animation patch to retarget object from your avatar root. Or use vrcfury or modular avatar workflow to create modular toggle where the fbx file itself it a root for animator.

[mellow vigil]

ok thank you

[modest oxide]

I tried to do animation in the action layer. This isn't permanent. But when I do the animation with it default on. It does this first. Then it resets then It does the actual animation and then the animation constantly loops. I do not have any loops on though.

[uncut cargo]

i need help trying to watch movie

[ornate stump]

Does this relate to avatar creation?

[timber wharf]

its a documentary on creation of avatar 2: the way of water

[timber wharf]

show layer setup/how it is on by default

[uncut cargo]

I need the new movie code VR-m.net not working

[ornate stump]

Go to popcorn palace discord and ask there.

[uncut cargo]

Ok where is that

[ornate stump]

The link should be in world description and in the world itseld.

[uncut cargo]

Ok

[modest oxide]

This is the animation I have set up in the action layer. I am using the VRCEmote to do this. It is an Int, and I do not have all of the ones circled as a write default. I set it up how most set up a dance animation. Or at least used to before vrcfury came to be. Again it works perfectly in unity but not in vrchat.

[timber wharf]

why it goes to empty clip with no exit

[uncut cargo]

I can't see it

[modest oxide]

At first I had it just go to the blend out stand and it end there and then that goes to the end state I think that is how that works at least lolol. But should I add the empty clip to the exit?

[timber wharf]

and check all your transition properties against og ones, you dont need 0.25 offset for driver etc

[inland moon]

is this the right place if i brought a model and am trying to put it onto vrchat but need help with the whole thing ???

[modest oxide]

I know that part too. What is weird though is that if they are not set to 0.25 the animation itself will not play in play mode.

[modest oxide]

I decided to get rid of the empty clip and now it just foes to the blend out stand. How would I get it to reset back to its defaults?

[somber meadow]

Is this an asset made for this avatar base? Also please use VRCFury's armature link instead of manually moving bones, it's way more simpler and optimized

[shut gust]

It is made for the base and I did use vrc fury and it was way worse then this they wouldn't bend before and doing it manually it was at least able to move with the avatar there just not linked to it for some reason

[crimson gust]

I can't figure out what is going on here

[snow raft]

i know this seems really dumb but, what does the red one mean? Ive been wasting over this to get it to go and the SDK doesnt give me any option in unity to login, or rather the SDK login doesnt show in unity

[unkempt cobalt]

So, for some reason, my Yoshi avatar's hands just do not seem to want to behave correctly, no matter how many switches I flip and sliders I mess around with. It always ends up in the exact same situation: They go into his face instead of onto his sides.

Here's what I mean in the form of renders in a meme:

And trust me, this isn't the first time people have reported this issue, so this needs to be fixed stat. But to do that, I need help from this channel immediately.

[plucky bridge]

I'm uploading an avatar for a friend, and it has face tracking on it. Uploading it to PC worked fine, but now that I'm uploading it for quest, I'm getting errors saying the face tracking parameters aren't defined. Any idea as to how to fix the issue is appreciated. They also don't care about the face tracking, but I don't know if deleting it will implode anything, so I'm playing it safe.

[plucky bridge]

NEVERMIND, I have fixed it. Probably

[unkempt cobalt]

So? How do I get the hand problem fixed?

[raven orbit]

having a avatar with really exaggerated proportions (such as having a huge head) tends to cause weird tracking problems. Standing normaly with your hands at hip level, your hands would be around halfway between your head and the floor. So, if your head is where you put the view position, vrchat tries to put your hands around halfway between the ground and your view position, but on a character with a head that takes up half the body, the halfway point is at the neck instead of the hips, so thats where your hands end up. i dont know if there's a more efficient way to fix this, but one thing you could try is having a second set of arm/shoulder bones in the position they realisticly should be and map those as the humanoid bones, then create constraints for the bones your model is actually rigged to with the respective humanoid bone as the source for each one.

[iron kindle]

Any ideas of what I am doing wrong here?

[ornate stump]

Your model wasn't exported with correct scale.

[iron kindle]

Any ideas why?

[ornate stump]

That was why.

[iron kindle]

Wrong choice of words on my part

Any ideas on what I can do to fix?

[frigid whale]

hey y'all, I've got my avatar base exporting fine from blender, but when I try to remove some of these unnecessary bones, it starts freaking out like this. any idea what's going on?

[ornate stump]

When exporting, you have to change Apply Scaling to FBX all.

[ornate stump]

That happens when you altered the model armature while the model was unpacked in the scene.

[frigid whale]

do i just need to remove all the bones and then re-place the prefab in the scene?

like make a new avatar prefab

[ornate stump]

Drag the fbx file into the scene again. Aka, startover. Do not unpack model.

[frigid whale]

ok, thank you

does adding bones trigger the same issue btw?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[frigid whale]

if you know

ok

alright well i'll just put everything in blender and export & restart afterwards

trying to merge some of the clothes so everything isn't all separate

[iron kindle]

Thanks

[wooden cairn]

For some reason, one of my avi's chest physbones is constantly vibrating in VR, but not in unity with the AV3 Emulator

Any ideas why?

It's just one chain of a two-chain physbone component

[steel tapir]

Anybody knows how Neitri's Wireframe shader works?
I get huge noises nearest to objects

[iron kindle]

Trying to move some toggles from an older version of my model now, right now working on hair but it seems to not be working, not visible despite being in the hiarchy

May have figured it out

And nope. I think I have copied it from the working model exactly but when I go in game their is no hair, and if I just add it to the model the hair seems to not be attached to the head

[safe badger]

having issues with audiolink. everything works in unity, but in game none of the audiolink effects are activating

oh i guess it needs audiolink enabled worlds

[stoic bobcat]

I wish there was a way for me to add the emotes I want and have it fit for quest, uncompressed it’s 9mb but compressed it’s 2mb, my emotes just tank the download size 😭 idk if there’s a way to compress these better or anything

[iron kindle]

Ok, how do I connect my hair to my head? this is getting weird

[reef cove]

I have an avatar which has some bones scaled to 100 and others to 0.01 in unity. If I import them into Blender some of them become tiny, and if I export them back to Unity again, none of the avatar dynamics work because the bones are in the wrong position (the scaling affects position)
if I zero out scaling - then it just looks ridiculus in Unity. And it's hard to keep track of all the scalings and making the opposite transformation afterwards manually, since both the bones and meshes which are weightpainted to the bones have been scaled in various ways.
Any easy way to deal with something like this?

[night ember]

Dont scale them in unity to begin with

[reef cove]

I didn't, I bought something from Booth which only has a .unitypackage and no .Blend file, and that fbx file has scaling applied in various places

So merely putting it into blender and exporting it again (with no changes) breaks it by scaling some parts of the avatar

[outer nimbus]

What does "allow posing" in physbones do? And should I have it enabled?

[reef cove]

That just decides if other players can move your hair and have it stay in a weird position, or if it goes back on its own always

[gloomy flint]

if you press trigger you can lock it in place

[outer nimbus]

Ohh that's what that is okay

[night ember]

Without posing if you let go it just returns back to its position
Posing lets you freeze the pose where you clicked trigger

[reef cove]

Is there a way to "apply scaling" in Unity and reset all scales back to 1 without actually changing the scale? Like you can in Blender

[night ember]

Well I mean yea
If you export and overwrite thats changing the fbx and prefab in scene

[frigid whale]

wtf happened 😭 looks normal in unity

[reef cove]

If I import an FBX and export it again, it changes. So it's a destructive transformation. In other words, Unity or Blender is deleting information

[night ember]

Weird blender settings I believe

[junior void]

Export scale is wrong

[frigid whale]

where do i change that

[junior void]

Blender

[night ember]

Its not deleting

Unity has no say on the fbx
Overwriting the fbx just resets the prefab in scene if you havnt unpacked

It just puts it back to what the fbx is
If there is nothing changed then no change happens

Entirely intended behavior

[junior void]

I wonder if the bones were scaled in unity bc theres a toggle that scales them back ig

I can see that being done

[night ember]

Probably or weird edits the guy didnt feel like doing in blender

[reef cove]

The unity armature has scale 0.01
If I put it into Blender and export it again, the size stays the same, but it now says that the scale is 1 in Unity
Meanwhile, the bones for the ears are inside the head and 100 times smaller than they should be, the avatar is ruined and without me taking any actions. So the import/export throws away information

[night ember]

Not throwing away anything?

You are exporting different scales

[gloomy flint]

who did you buy it from jesus

[reef cove]

If I import a picture into ms paint, and export the same picture, then it doesn't change. If I import my fbx into blender and export it without changing anything, then the numbers in Unity are different

[night ember]

Thats a picture not an fbx

[junior void]

If your armature has a scale of 0.01, likely the creator used default export settings. If you export using scalings fbx all, itll be 1

[reef cove]

Imports and exports should be neutral transformations, like multiplying by 1 or adding 0 to a number. Since this is not the case I need a way to zero out scaling in Unity so that importing it to Blender doesn't ruin it

[junior void]

I dont see a way to export mixed scalings

[night ember]

You cant change scaling in unity

[reef cove]

armature is 0.01, clothing root bone is 0.01, clothing parts is 100, most other things are 1.0
It works fine in Unity, but when I put it into Blender it looks like this. And if I export it like this, then the bones do not go back in the correct positions (these are two ears, but now they're inside the head). I don't know what they're scaled relatively to, so I can't even put the small bones back in place manually by scaling them up

[junior void]

You should have mentioned that you have multiple armatures

The creator used fbx all on things that are scale one and all local on things that are 0.01

[night ember]

Looks like the idiot used a unity script to convert to fbx

[junior void]

Something fishy for sure

[night ember]

What does the hierarchy look like in blender

[reef cove]

The bones in the picture is from one armature. And in Unity the bones are in the right place in the creators FBX, but in my edited FBX they change places because I can't retain the scaling.
The bones also change name when I import and export, somehow

[night ember]

what does the hierarchy look like in blender

[reef cove]

Like this?

[night ember]

What even is the model you bought

[reef cove]

It's clothing

It's not uncommon that there's just a single .fbx file

[night ember]

The fbx isnt the problem here

Its the fact the guy very likely used a script of some kind to convert it to fbx

[reef cove]

Some parts are smaller in Blender because they have the value 100 in Unity. I could change the scale in Unity to 1, import into blender, fit it, and export it again. But I'm fitting the clothes to fit the avatar, and if I scale anything, then I won't be able to see if everything is in the right place, haha

So a script may be able to rescale things?

[gloomy flint]

where did you even get this mess

[night ember]

You dont understand what I mean

If a person takes something in unity and tries to convert it to fbx it breaks it completely no matter what

[reef cove]

It is an FBX already. And it works. It just breaks if I put it into Blender and export it again

"You can reparent all child objects (to parent == null), change scale of your root object to 1,1,1 and drag childs inside again, they will maintain the current size if you do it like that."
I found this on stackoverflow. I may need a script to do this for every object in the hierarchy in the right order

[junior void]

Can we quickly cover how you got this into blender

[reef cove]

Blender import -> fbx

[junior void]

The arms for example seem fine but the right leg is scaled down. Is that particular bone on the asset scaled x100 in unity by chance?

[reef cove]

In Unity, this transform9 (and not the parent of root bones) has scaling 100,100,100. When I put it into Blender, it scales it back to 1,1,1. If I then export it again, it's still 1,1,1, so 100 times too small

Yeah, it's just some of them

[junior void]

Interesting because the avatar in your hoerarchy in unity is an instance of an object. Changes one makes to the avatar in scene do not reflect on the fbx it originated from

So my guess is that the model was imported fucked up like this and then fixed up by scaling up shit in unity

[reef cove]

The fbx file itself (before you put it into the scene) has the strange scaling

Yeah lmao

[night ember]

Or was exported from unity after making edits in unity

[junior void]

In a weird way yes

and then overridden

[night ember]

Everything exported in unity with an armature will always fuck up

Especially doing shit like I saw in that image

[junior void]

Imo your best bet is to fix it in blender (scale bones from origin by factor 100) and importing the edit as a new fbx, not overwrite and set it up from there (yes, shit tons of work)

or you go complain to the maker/refund yada yada

[night ember]

Thats the only actual way to fix it and make it usable in blender

[reef cove]

Scaling by 100 in Blender doesn't save me, I think it's because I need to use the parent bone as origin, which I'm not sure how to do

[junior void]

set the cursor to the origin, (shift +s ?) and then at the center top, use transform orientation cursor

[reef cove]

I'm not sure it's the real origin, it may be relative to the parent bone. At least the position is slightly off if I just scale it by 100

Oh my god, I can't add a script to a game object, I can only add a "new script" and change the code.
I made a script to normalize scaling but it literally crashes my Unity by causing a memory excess violation even time I make it, and when I start up Unity again the script is gone from the scene

[junior void]

We told you you need to do it by hand but you wouldnt listen

[plain mural]

how to mix/make the shading the same on these two objects? (same polygons, different meshes)

[sly lodge]

when you separate the mesh, it will change where the normals are facing to, but you could use a data transfer in Blender to make the normals look seamless

normally, I would duplicate the mesh, combine them together again, and use the data transfer to your separated mesh

[spring sierra]

I've been at this for a few hours now and I still can't find out what's wrong, I tried deleting and reimporting the 'lilmaterialutils' thing multiple times. There's even multiple copies it, and because of this one issue, I'm unable to upload my avatar

[plain mural]

it doesn't look like it fixed the model(
the material is the same

[left wharf]

Try reinstall lilToon.
If that doesn’t solve the errors, close unity & delete Library folder from explorer.

[sly lodge]

you can try this

[spring sierra]

thank you! I will try this out after my lil nap

[balmy barn]

merge by distance (unless you must have mesh separated)

[spark walrus]

is there a way to fix this or did i just waste hours or work?

[left wharf]

That’s side-effect error. open console and see first few errors

[spark walrus]

i'll have to reopen it later, i wonder if it had anything to do with me getting rid of some parameters and menus

[maiden finch]

Im having a SDK Error on my avatar that i bought and trying to upload. Is there any way to figure out which asset is the backdated item or which one would be best for usage?

[left wharf]

What’s the error say?
We don’t know what asset/avatar do you want to upload and what’s happening on your Unity

[left wharf]

Don’t clop your screen shot. This screenshot doesn’t include necessary info

[maiden finch]

Oh ok. where exactly do you want me to screenshot

[left wharf]

Whole console tab and first few errors in console

[maiden finch]

I should also mention this is a set of four avatars. 3 of the 4 uploaded perfectly fine

[left wharf]

Oh, my bad. The “error” stands for the messages which have red icon

[maiden finch]

oh!

[left wharf]

OMG there’s no useful info lol. have you tried reopening Unity?

[maiden finch]

Yes. This is actually my third one I have opened.

[left wharf]

Ok, clear console, try reupload, and show me what the SDK says and console shows.

[maiden finch]

Where do I find where the SDK part is.

[left wharf]

The error appares near the Build & Publish button when upload fails

[maiden finch]

Ah ok

[pure oyster]

Best shader for android upload?

[maiden finch]

Oh my goodness it actually uploaded. not sure what I did for it to work but Im glad it worked

Now i have to put the up to date SDK and fight with that. Thank you ^_^

[left wharf]

There’s no best because it’s depends on how do you want to show the meshes.
You can see the list of shaders you can use from here > https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations/

[pure oyster]

how does this even make sense

[left wharf]

According to the official document, VRChat/Mobile/Particles don’t have “Alpha Blended” shader. So you cannot use this.

[pure oyster]

damn i think my whole avatar cant be put to use then 🥲

[indigo compass]

Lightmapped and alpha blended are shaders optimized for Quest worlds that for seemingly legacy reasons are now stuck in those folders.

[atomic latch]

someone help please? missing scripts? IM SO CONFUSED

[somber sequoia]

Some component on this avatar requires a package you did not install

see the instructions for the avatar, it may tell you what to import

[modern scaffold]

why doesnt vrchat/mobile/particles/alpha blended work?

[somber sequoia]

are you trying to put it not on a particle system?

[quasi briar]

I had the same issue. It's VRCFury right? Just use an older version for now

[modern scaffold]

yeah

[somber sequoia]

it's for particle systems...

[modern scaffold]

but additive and multiply work on models

[somber sequoia]

yes

[modern scaffold]

swear alpha blended used to work

[ornate stump]

It has never been.

[modern scaffold]

what do i use for these then for quest

[somber sequoia]

additive or multiply, as you said

toon lit, whatever it's called

[modern scaffold]

additive removes the dark parts and multiply removes the light parts so cant use those

and toon lit doest remove the transparent parts

[quasi briar]

The avatar isn't intended for quest it seems

[somber sequoia]

yeah, you can't do alpha transparency on quest

[modern scaffold]

bit silly that

[somber sequoia]

it's a glorified mobile phone...

[atomic latch]

tysm!

[modern scaffold]

it worked fine with bloodborne 🤷‍♀️

[somber sequoia]

and?

[modern scaffold]

so its possible with no issues

it used to be possible with the vrcsdk a while ago when you got to the upload screen

[quasi briar]

bloodborne is a modified sdk isn't it?

[somber sequoia]

it's possible, but just because it "worked" for you doesn't mean it isn't a problem

[somber sequoia]

Yep, breaks limits and such

[ornate stump]

It's modified sdk so what you had done was illegel.

[modern scaffold]

illegal*

[ornate stump]

Well thanks.

[frigid whale]

so i made a copy of my avatar with a different outfit and tried to make a new avatar with a new FBX, and it seems the materials are all sorts of screwed up -- won't show any textures on the skin mesh. any idea

[balmy barn]

guesswork - uv not the same, wrong material on mesh(es), decal / missing matcap ,yadada

[icy pewter]

Guys I bought a pen but the pen won't stop writing even i didn't press any button pls help I cry

[steep herald]

Is anyone up to date with gogo loco and VRC Fury? All of the tutorials are outdated now, supposedly gogoloco has a gogo/fury prefab? Has anyone set up an avi recently?

[ornate stump]

There is a Readme file included in the same folder as the Gogoloco VRCFury prefab.

[steep herald]

this is my file, and my vrc fury doesn't include a visible auto install, things have been moved around

[obtuse elk]

is there any script that does the opposite of what headchop does, so instead of showing component in locally, it doesn't show it?

cause i'm making a screenspace hypno shader

[steep herald]

Without more information my guess is that you have the wrong material slots assigned

[somber sequoia]

you don't need a script for that, make an animation to disable the thingy, and use the IsLocal variable in the animation layer

[obtuse elk]

thank you

[ornate stump]

Not actually named "Readme", but I meant a text file that exist in the same folder as the prefab.

Sorry, image file.

[steep herald]

I'm up to date with gogo this is the only image file which is old school manual set up for write defaults

[somber sequoia]

it ought to be as simple as just dropping the VRCFury-specific prefab onto your avatar.

[steep herald]

I have another actually, maybe some hidden? can you just tell me? Dont know what I'm looking for

[ornate stump]

Did you look in the Prefabs VRCFury folder?

[steep herald]

Thats my point, VRCFury is supposed to have a prefab but it doesnt and in pinkys tutorial in tne comments they say vrc fury has moved it and now gogoloco supposedly has the prefab on it, like im following old outdated tutorials I dont know what the deal is now

[steep herald]

Yea, the prefab should be right here right?

[ornate stump]

No.

[steep herald]

Ok in pinkys tutorial it was

[ornate stump]

Prefab folder inside of Gogo.

[somber sequoia]

it should be in the GogoLoco folder

[steep herald]

ok heres my gogo

[somber sequoia]

in GoGo/GoLoco/ here

it is in mine...

[ornate stump]

You haven't open the Prefabs folder.

[somber sequoia]

on mine that's for the non-Fury ones, but I'm on 1.8.3, not sure if that's current.

I've been migrating away from using it.

[prisma thunder]

What have I done?

[steep herald]

im on the .6 one I think whatever is newest

[ornate stump]

VRCFury.

[somber sequoia]

also there's a vrc fury discord too

[steep herald]

Ok I see, so pinkys tutorial was way different and the comments section were all sorts of wrong

[somber sequoia]

yeah probably that's a bit outdated

it does seem like every version of GoGo Loco, even the patch releases, has significant changes

[prisma thunder]

Wait, I might actually need help.

I'm trying to reupload the older version of my avatar and it's not working.

😭

[steep herald]

Yea I just wanted to make sure I had everything and didn't specifically need to get something from one of their discords etc, some things have moved around, and when I did it last I had to do it all manually which was like a 15 min process everytime once I sorta knew what I was doing, thanks for helping

[steep herald]

tyty

[white topaz]

I imported my fbx on my avi into blender so I could flip some of the normals. Reimported it back into unity and it broke

[prisma thunder]

If the only thing rated poor or very poor is my triangles, is that fine?

[ornate stump]

Switch rig type to None, apply and back to Humanoid and setup.

[steep herald]

Not an expert with file conversion, but my guess is its a bug, go back to blender, export > apply all transforms, try again, fix mesh if any pop ups show in unity

[ornate stump]

Most of the time it's fine. Unless you excessively mean by lot.

[prisma thunder]

200k>?

[ornate stump]

Also depends on platform. 200k for pc is fine, but quiet concerning for quest.

[prisma thunder]

Full stats (I'm fixing materials slots and skinned meshes )on't worry.

[somber sequoia]

what's the light for?

[steep herald]

No that's not fine if optimization is the game

[ornate stump]

Also if you said greater than 200k that would include 1m which isn't fine.

[white topaz]

tried that

no luck

[prisma thunder]

Flashlight

[somber sequoia]

ahh

[prisma thunder]

I'm scared of the dark and my friends make me play horror games.

That is never leaving my avatar.

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot the menu where you set the rig type?

[white topaz]

only error i have

[prisma thunder]

The only issue is triangles.

They can probably get sub 150 but that's about it.

[ornate stump]

Is it look fine in the preview?

Did you actually click on Apply after changing to None?

[white topaz]

It's does, I did click apply too, but the avatar is just gone in scene

[balmy barn]

unpacked - bad

[somber sequoia]

wait, is that avatar unpacked?

this won't work, drag a new model into the scene and migrate stuff to it

[ornate stump]

That's the different issue. This one is because you edited the unpacked model.

[white topaz]

damn first avi where that's been an issue

[ornate stump]

Editing unpacked model has never been safe. You'd have to know the reason why it work and why it doesn't.

[white topaz]

tbf the model is from 2021 lol

all good though, I'll just drag and drop everything into it

just glad it's not fully broken

[ornate stump]

The year shouldn't matter though.

[frigid whale]

it seems the UVs got deleted in the process of adding the clothes ... any way to copy them from the other model?

[white topaz]

all good, thank you for the help

thank lord for pumpkins avatar tools

[frigid whale]

or i think they're just on a different UV map actually

[south kraken]

any unity tools that can rename or duplicate shapekeys on upload?

[ornate stump]

Why would you do that?

[balmy barn]

blender time for that

[south kraken]

ive seen tools do stuff like this before tho so if anyone knows the names of them I'm still interested

[steep herald]

for real

[ornate stump]

Is that for a person I replied to, or did you get some new question?

[south kraken]

i can think of many cases lol but im too lazy to type them

[ornate stump]

For example?

[steep herald]

I was agreeing, but in shock

[south kraken]

thats why tools like starmesh exsist for example

[steep herald]

Examples pls

[south kraken]

i was looking for something similar to this

[south kraken]

no, cope

[steep herald]

My point exactly

[south kraken]

if i didnt have a reason i wouldnt be asking for that kind of tool 🤡

which i know exists

yall will have issues over ANYTHING in this server chill out

[steep herald]

Unity has trouble with naming, i'm also really not sure why you'd want want to duplicate a blend shape which ultimately hurts performance in the end, you're asking for help without providing anything, you are a very, silly, goose

[balmy barn]

people will use the wierdest tools instead of 1 minute in blender

[steep herald]

For real, super lazy

[light lark]

I don't know if this is an avatar help but I need some assistance in VRC So I've made 2 additional slime trackers for the elbows. When I started playing I noticed that the shoulders really weren't moving at all to the point that when I rise my arms it makes the models elbows like photo 1. When I play in FBT without the elbow trackers the shoulders move normal like photo 2.

Now my question is there a way to get the shoulders moving correctly with the elbow trackers on?

[urban glacier]

can someone help me

[light lark]

What's up @urban glacier ?

[urban glacier]

i uploaded a pc ver and i copied the blue print id and pasted it in for the quest verison and its not loading

like its all greyed out

[light lark]

Can you send a screenshot of the SDK menu on the quest side

[urban glacier]

yeah

[light lark]

Close the project and reopen it again. I think that's just a loading issue

Happens to me sometimes too

[urban glacier]

i did

it still like thi

this

lemme try again

yup still not loading

its letting build and publish it

i js cant see the stuff it says

lets hope it works

HUH\

[balmy barn]

10.001 is larger then 10.00

you only see 2 digits after

[urban glacier]

now it said it failed cuz it doesent see a thumbnial

wiat

finally it loaded

its uploaded now

[ornate stump]

The only tool I know that change blendshape name is model obfuscator, which meant to rename everything jumbly to make avatar ripping harder. You didn't mention your use case so we can't recommend any tool that would suit your unknown use case.

[south kraken]

Honestly I'll type it out tomorrow I'm just tired is all

Thanks

[ornate stump]

And if you gave good enough reason, you might be able to convince people to search for the tool.

[light lark]

Nice nice

[wraith geyser]

hello, for some reasons when i upload my avi i have no errors on unity, but in vrc it says security check failed. Any ideas where the problem might be please?

[somber sequoia]

Show the stats on the builder window in Unity - probably something is way outside of norms

[wraith geyser]

the physbones collisions maybe?

[somber sequoia]

yeah this is all kinda a lot, that one does seem a bit extreme

but I'm not sure what would trigger the check failure

[hidden loom]

The physbone collision check count is easy to fix honestly. If you try reassignment and combining colliders used properly it might fix the issues. Because 1,5k checks on only 200 transforms is extreme

[wraith geyser]

i did lowered to under the 500 limit and still security check fail :/

[hidden loom]

the other thing that could cause it is outdated components on your prefabs/ game objects. Try to check your game objects for such.

To help with the search, try disabling all your particle systems(make a duplicate of your avi, delete the particle systems off of the duplicate and reupload) and see if that fixes it.

[wraith geyser]

ill try this thank u

[wraith geyser]

so it did work, but for some reasons after uploading the quest version it broke again (security check)

[somber sequoia]

that's a quest version? that's going to be awful for performance, yours included.

[wraith geyser]

you are at the right place to get help, describe your issue and some nice people will definetely try to help you

for commissions just go to the world of your favorite creators, they mostly have their discord or online store link written somewhere

but absolutely do not trut all those people that will DM, they will to tell you they can make your avi but they will most likely try to scam you and sell you a ripped avi. Allways ask them to send you the link of their store (Gumroad,payhip or booth) if they dont have a store, dont trust them

[raven orbit]

this server is the place to go for commissions https://ptb.discord.com/channels/189511567539306508/1204506421631393913

[shut gust]

can anyone help with this i used vrc fury to put them on but they were just stiff and stuck to a foot and when i put them in manually they work but arnt attached to the legs

[hidden loom]

So one of your particle systems then uses something that is outdated or not allowed to be used as such anymore. It could be the particle destruct thingy that they implemented a few months ago to not be supported anymore. Consider replacing or disablign any function tied to that

[light remnant]

Now I'm too scared to do anything jesus- I tried my hand at help but as soon as I fixed one thing it gave me more issues. Now I just need to deal with blah blah make sure your neck and shoulders are children to chest/upper chest. I doubt changing the name of the bones will help but I'm honestly willing to try anything.

Thanks for the advice y'all. Probably saved me butt ngl.

May have accidentally opened a Pandora's Box of friend requests.

[scenic fiber]

Radial Puppet sticks in VR: I have a specific issue where if I use my own or public avatars ardial buttons they get stuck and have to be unstuck by resetting the avatar, I can use the menu based radial sliders, however the behaviour doesn't occur in mobile or in Desktop mode. Anyone know of a fix?

[novel agate]

Any idea how to fix this? im losing my mind

[somber sequoia]

did you check the log for details?

[novel agate]

just says code erros in the avatarsSDK

And ive tried to remove it and reinstall it over and oevr again, Hold on i can get a screenshot

[somber sequoia]

you could paste the first 2-3 error messages (at the top), that may help.

[novel agate]

i managed to figure it out, It was a bunch of out dated packages that had added up over the years

Just following the errors and deleting them as theyve came up has fixed it

[unreal cairn]

Hey, is there anyone who could help me with toggles

[ornate stump]

You have to be more specific about the problem you have so someone know they could help.

[unreal cairn]

So i have a avatar and im trying to figure out how to toggle diffrent colors for the avatar, or change the colors in the already made toggle

[somber sequoia]

either animate a hue shift, if your shader supports that, or swap materials entirely.

[stoic bobcat]

idk if its just me, but has crunch compress been working for android? Ive tried it so many times for maybe a year now and it seems to just not work anymore, unless thats been something new with the sdk

[viscid snow]

Anyone else had an issue where trying to use dynamic topology to sculpt on their avatar crashes instantly, but dynamic topolgy works otherwise for example with the default cube. Any fixes?

Even if I set dyntopo to the lowest quality setting, clicking on the avatar with it on is an instant crash

[somber sequoia]

it generally doesn't get you much over just reducing texture size itself, and tends to be worse quality anyway

[unkempt cobalt]

Alright, so the second render to the right is incorrect. That only happens when you have your hands up to your chest. I meant to say that the arms look weird when they are down.

Since I'm at a workplace right now, I cannot make a new render resembling the issue at hand because I don't have Blender, so please just take my word for it. Any ideas on why this occurs?

-# I also think it would be really awkward to do such a thing at a workplace anyway.

Regardless, a solution would be fantastic, if you guys can find any. I'll try and recreate what the rig looks like in MS paint, since that's the only tool that's available to me for the time being.

Do not judge me for a bad rig representation and horrendous program choice, by the way. I do not have access to Blender, nor the files to even show the rig, during workplace hours.

[raven orbit]

i responded to you with a potential solution earlier

[unkempt cobalt]

I literally just said that the second render was incorrect.

Anyways, this is the rig structure. Take note that all bones are technically facing upwards in Blender, but are still considered connected in terms of bone structure parenting.

The clavicles/shoulders are not actually coming out of the neck, by the way, even though I drew it like that. They are connected to the chest like they should be.

[steep herald]

Is it possible to blend shape an avatar base, apply that to a clothing asset specifically made for the base, then link it through vrc fury to apply the blend shape once your clothing asset is in unity?

[sudden hornet]

who would i reach out to to have someone properly rig a pleated skirt with 0 clipping in idle, crouch, prone, and all gogoloco poses

[steep herald]

VRCTraders, gonna get scam requests here, prob will recieve a few within the next few minutes

[somber sequoia]

a miracle worker, probably. That's really hard to meet all of that criteria.

[steep herald]

There's some good tutorials on skirt rigging though

[somber sequoia]

yep

[steep herald]

You know if its possible to apply a blend shape to an avatar through a clothing asset with vrc fury by chance?

[somber sequoia]

not sure what you mean by applying a blendshape to clothing if it's on the base, it doesn't quite work that way

[steep herald]

I know its not intended that way but vrc fury seems to have a lot of applications/potential.

[somber sequoia]

but VRC Fury does have a blendshape link, it'll just match based on the name, works decently.

[steep herald]

Best example is a furry avatar with a large nose but you want to add a mask, you flatten the nose to make it not clip through your mask. I want to make a unity clothing asset that can apply a blendshape to the base for a someone who downloads my asset, rather than use my customized avatar base, sort of like giving them a blendshape

[halcyon moth]

So I'm trying to make a follower to my avatar since I want it to be customized to whatever model I want to be. They are manly pokemon models with animations, All I want is when I move it'll move with it's animation for walking and idle when it stops moving

[steep herald]

complicated territory, lots of work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx9v-3bgBa8&t=33s

[somber sequoia]

They'd need to have the avatar model with the blendshape

[steep herald]

Ok so there is no way with vrc fury to apply a blend shape to the base model through a clothing asset?

[gloomy flint]

you need blender for that

thats why theyre called blendshapes

[somber sequoia]

there's no way to add a blendshape to a model other than remodeling the model itself

(sometimes I wish there were)

[gloomy flint]

you dont need to reMODEL it, but you do need to do a bit of work

[steep herald]

I have 2k hours in blender

[gloomy flint]

but you do need modeling skill bc you make the blendshapes yourself

[sudden hornet]

thanks

[somber sequoia]

yeah I was kinda glossing over it really

[gloomy flint]

then perfect kioshi

[steep herald]

The goal is to make a clothing asset for a model that I CANNOT redistribute, which doesnt have a convenient blendshape on it

[gloomy flint]

you would need to open the fbx in blender and make the blendshape yourself. Unity is fully incapable of making blendshapes.

[somber sequoia]

yep, no real good way to do that, unfortunately

[steep herald]

let me ask a different question then, is there any way to apply a blendshape for a model through unity?

[somber sequoia]

you don't apply a blendshape like you're saying

[gloomy flint]

you make one, in Blender.

[somber sequoia]

You put the model in blender and create a shapekey there.

[gloomy flint]

That is the end all be all, you literally cannot create a blendshape in unity.

[somber sequoia]

all the VRCFury component does is trigger an existing blendshape with a name that matches one on your asset.

[raven orbit]

remake the mask to fit the face without a blendshape

[somber sequoia]

^ this is the way, unfortunately

[steep herald]

Its not a mask, that was an example

[halcyon moth]

I always get stuck on this one bit cause I doesn't work the same as he has it

[steep herald]

Im trying to make a complicated avatar with weird physics to work with a specific article of clothing, so I need the avatar to blend shape certain areas away, but of course I cant include the modified model because its against the sellers tos

also had to fix my keyboard, it started writing in japanese

So with a combination of weight painting and contorting the avatar, ive eliminated most of the issues, but i figured because the clothing is designed for specific model, anyone who gets the clothing asset will be using it on the same model, I figured vrc fury or something would had a magical way to transfer the blendshape, but I guess the only functionality is to combine the blends for like a breast slider, so the clothing and avatar base both blend at the same time?

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's what it's for

[night valve]

If anyone knows how to setup the lava lamp shader I really need assistance because nothing I’m doing works

Dm me if you’re willing to help

[steep herald]

Its not something anyone can walk you through because its very time consuming, and anyone who can will want money. VRCTraders or Fiver is my best advice, you need a lot of knowledge of animating/constraints etc

[halcyon moth]

Alright i'll consider that, thanks

[steep herald]

Ok cool, had to ask, and just one last time. Just to confirm that there is no known way at all, to apply a blend shape to a model outside of blender in Unity, and the only solution is to make a better asset?

[somber sequoia]

there is no "apply" here, that isn't a thing that can be done for blendshapes.

[steep herald]

Alrighty, I appreciate it

[queen linden]

Question, I've noticed that people are able to take model animations from other games and apply them to their VRC avatars as toggled animations. How is that done exactly? Through Blender, Unity, or both?

[somber sequoia]

depends on how it's stored, often you have them in a .fbx file, you can extract the animation from that in Unity

[steep herald]

Both, blender is the modeling software, where you make the asset/import it etc fit it to your avatar base, unity is where you configure it, where you set it up, add shaders, toggles and upload it

I wonder if I could apply a blend shape through a script

[somber sequoia]

I don't see how you could get that data from one model to another in Unity

you'd have to find a way to distribute the data also, which is not an actual .fbx file with the mesh object inside

it's theoretically possible, though I would be surprised if Unity has an API for this

[steep herald]

No youd have to input the values from the base mesh and some how re apply them to the avatar, because whoever has the clothing asset will also have the base mesh

[somber sequoia]

yes, that's basically what I said

[steep herald]

yea im thinking its theoretically possible but insanely complicated, also as you said

[somber sequoia]

the shape key is mostly just vertex positions

[opal agate]

Im getting security checks failed and a robot. How do I fix this

[steep herald]

console have any errors?

[somber sequoia]

this security check thing has got to be a FAQ at this point.

[opal agate]

Nope

Im going to try uploading it again to see if it fixes itself

Hmm strange, this time it gave me an error

When switching to android

Rebuilding the avatar from scratch using the fbx didnt work either

[somber sequoia]

hmm do you have the latest gesture manager and latest SDK? that ^ looks like it's caused by version mismatches

[opal agate]

Hmmm

Ill try updating it if I can and then try again then

[opal agate]

Just ended up removing the avatar 3 emulator and it decided to work

[stoic bobcat]

Dang, just trying to find more ways to reduce size so I can add more emotes :/

[solemn hound]

how i remove a gogoloco ?

[junior void]

Whats the shader on the hair

[weary pagoda]

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[junior void]

And whats the target platform rn?

[weary pagoda]

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[junior void]

Are you sure

[weary pagoda]

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[junior void]

Is the material animated by a swap?

[weary pagoda]

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[junior void]

Youd have to have a look at your fx layer

Likely theres an animation layer animating the material in there. Yeeting that layer should do. But know that if you yeet it from the fx layer that is used by the pc one also, itll equally be gone there too

Consider duplicating the fx and editing the dupe for quest if you havent

[weary pagoda]

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[junior void]

As long as parameters are same to sync ft, youre fine

[weary pagoda]

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[gloomy flint]

graaaggg... an avatar i have came WITH the prefab for body chairs, which i dont need

but if i delete the pefab, it wont let me even test the avatar in gesture manager

i dont need it, i dont want it, its a menu i'll never use and it takes up space.

[unkempt cobalt]

So, this is what I mean. I've hidden the bones that would be considered irrelevant.

And don't worry about the fact that they're all facing upwards, they're all technically connected.

These are the two bones that are connecting the limbs, btw.

[queen linden]

Sorry, just saw this reply, the model files are in TGA format. I have a video on how to convert XPS/mesh files but I'm not sure if that's the same.

[unkempt cobalt]

For context on what the issue is, refer to the original post here: #avatar-help message

[somber sequoia]

TGA is an image file format, not 3D mesh data

[queen linden]

Is there a way to turn it into mesh data? Because from what I'm seeing in the folder I have, all the body parts are there.

[somber sequoia]

that doesn't really make sense

[somber sequoia]

this doesn't make anything really clear, but I'd guess some of those are albedo textures, some are normals

[queen linden]

Whoops, pardon my earlier question, I'm trying to figure out how to turn this model that I have into a usable VRC avatar. Though yeah there's no 3d mesh, just TGA files. Are they usable or unable to be used due to the type of file it is?

[somber sequoia]

targa files are usable, Unity will take 'em.

[queen linden]

Hmm...

Then there's the issue of there being no body.

[somber sequoia]

they tend to be quite large though, I assume it'll compress internally but dunno for sure, haven't looked.

there's a .fbx file right there though?

[queen linden]

Oh shit wait there is an FBX. Nevermind there we go. Too many files lmao. Then I guess the tga would be the textures correct?

[somber sequoia]

.tga is an image file, so yes, textures of some sort.

[queen linden]

Awesome. Hopefully they open in Unity as textures.

Time to suffer in Blender for rigging and blendshaping again... Thanks!

[nimble bloom]

Is there anyone here who is proficient in weight painting who wouldn't mind me picking their brain for a moment?

[somber sequoia]

I probably suck less than the average at it 🙂

[nimble bloom]

May I DM you?

[somber sequoia]

if you do it in here or #avatar-rigging perhaps others can learn from the conversation also

or contribute

[nimble bloom]

I am currently weight painting an outfit for a friend and the majority of the weights transferred just fine without much revision needed, but I am running into an issue with a leg harness that is near the top of the thighs that doesn't want to weight paint properly no matter what I do to it and it keeps getting either severely misshapen or just clips into the legs instead

[somber sequoia]

remember that weights get averaged, so by adding weight for one bone, you're removing it from others

and Unity only takes the top 4 weights per vertex, annoyingly 🙂

but otherwise, it's hard to offer too much advice without seeing what's going on in detail

[nimble bloom]

In blender I am only seeing 3-4 bones affecting this piece of clothing, and I have played back and forth between them to see if adding or removing from one would help the other

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's how I usually do it, check all the surrounding bones after altering one

[nimble bloom]

I am not sure if I can post a screenshot here due to the nature of the location of the issue

[somber sequoia]

as long as there's nothing... you know.. showing, it's probably fine. It's a complicated area to paint well.

[nimble bloom]

The screenshot is wireframe

But close up

[somber sequoia]

ok sure, DM me

[nimble bloom]

You aren't accept DMs at this time

[somber sequoia]

oh interesting, thought I had that off, one sec.

k

ah, nothing wrong with that IMO

[nimble bloom]

If you are sure, not looking to break rules lol

[somber sequoia]

I see where it's getting all scrunched up too

re: rules, I don't make 'em, so I can't do more than provide my opinion 🙂

[shrewd stirrup]

how do i fix lyuma emulator not working?

[somber sequoia]

probably depends on why it isn't working

[shrewd stirrup]

it doesnt let me see the menu

[shrewd stirrup]

even adding gesture manager i cant click on any toggles

[nimble bloom]

Did you add the parameters?

[shrewd stirrup]

ye

[shrewd stirrup]

yeah it happens when i add emand the fx

[nimble bloom]

I am unfamiliar with the lyuma emulator, usually gesture manager not working is a parameter issue

[somber sequoia]

any errors? I use Lyuma's, it seems to just work

[ivory turret]

hey where do i get the gogo loco with dash

[somber sequoia]

the creator's booth page as usual, I imagine

[somber sequoia]

or right there

[ivory turret]

ok thanks

[shrewd stirrup]

np

[lost shore]

When I turn on play mode the avatar has her mouth wide open for some reason???

When not in play mode its normal

[somber sequoia]

Got a jawbone mapped in the rigging setup? Remove that.

[lost shore]

Ill check in a min

[hollow hemlock]

Howd i import png file to the project ?? Ive tried using sprite, but i cant upload it cuz it have to be removed by spriterenderer

[somber sequoia]

do you mean, how to put a PNG file onto your avatar? You'd need to put it into a material and that material onto a mesh object

(could be just a plane)

... wow 430k triangles

[hollow hemlock]

Like this ??

[gloomy flint]

hey question

you know the general expressions menu, the one you get when you first open gesture manager/click Expressions in VRChat?

is there a way to rearrange that specifically?

because I want the prefabs I put on my avatar to be at the END of that list, not randomly thrown in the middle

[somber sequoia]

do you mean the avatar's main menu? You control that. Or the VRChat-generated menus - you can't change those.

[gloomy flint]

i hate that i cant change the order of them, thats inCREDIBLY stupid

[quasi briar]

I dunno how others would do it, but I would make a flat plane mesh and then add a material to it. Easily optimized into the base mesh and material

[hollow hemlock]

Oh yeahhh, it does works. Thanks tho

[marble finch]

hii

i havent played in years and my avatars are quite simple. however, the dynamic bones are misbehaving, like they just randomly.. float?/ stick ?

havent touched these chars since round covid

[somber sequoia]

if you can re-upload that, probably do so, and convert the Dynamic Bones to Physbones

[marble finch]

look at the skirt

[marble finch]

i dont know what that second part is lol

[somber sequoia]

VRChat's replacement for Dynamic Bones.

[marble finch]

mm its gonna be difficult i havent touched unity in years let me see what i can do

what version are we on

[somber sequoia]

good place to start: https://vcc.docs.vrchat.com/guides/getting-started

but we're using Unity 2022.3.22f1

[marble finch]

nvm, i dont think i have any of my project files anymore..

😭

guess im screwed. welp. rip my avas.

actually, i found my projects on unity cloud, but how do i iport them

[somber sequoia]

there's a button in VCC, "add project from disk"

[marble finch]

its on unity cloud tho

[somber sequoia]

oh I have no idea what that's about, but I figured you could probably get a download from it

[subtle veldt]

Ive been trying to get this contact to work correctly it plays the other animation when the contact is tested yet the particle to not turn on im guessing its the way i set up the animator (I am horrible with layers)

It goes to the next anim but doesnt seem to really turn the emissions on despite the animtion working with tested with gesture manager and on preview

[somber sequoia]

looks reasonable at a glance

well you don't need masks if that's the FX animator

[subtle veldt]

fair to be honest

only had it on since it wasnt working

i had the weight on zero...

at least it was something dumb

[somber sequoia]

oh! haha, yep, I see it now

[thorn oriole]

who can teach me how to make avatars

[left wharf]

google it.
there's many tutorial videos/articles about "How to make an avatar" on the internet.

[sick ice]

does any one know how to fix script errors?

[somber sequoia]

Install whatever package is missing.

You may have to check with the avatar details from the creator, they may have listed what you need

but that one gives you a clue - seems to be FACS Utilities

(I just googled it)

[barren stream]

I'm having a major issue. I had an update on VCC, none of the versions of anything had changed, as soon as I updated vcc my model won't upload with any fx layers in the descriptor, not even gogoloco. Tried 3 new projects, all the same issue. The SDK just goes blank and I get an error and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to fix it. I've never had this issue in the 4yrs ive been creating and the model is due to release tomorrow, I've tried everything. If anyone knows how to help please lmk 😭 video has sound i forgot to mute

[somber sequoia]

wow 500k tris

hmm definitely something in the animator, if it worked without

[barren stream]

yeah but it worked perfectly until i updated vcc and then something broke and I haven't touched any fx layers in a few days

[somber sequoia]

VCC doesn't affect unity projects unless you also updated a package in the project

[barren stream]

they all stayed the same 🤷‍♂️ and even adding gogoloco and nothing else has the same result

even with a new descriptor

[grizzled lichen]

the animation doesnt work with the model i want it to work with, how would i make it work with all models [i also want it to work when i make a luigi model]

[nocturne cave]

Having some trouble where i upload my avatar and it ends up turning BRIGHT PINK, The shaders seem fine and the textures also seem fine, im not sure what do to from here

[somber sequoia]

got a material swap animation that's swapping to a broken material?

[vagrant crater]

i wanna make an object throwable so i can hold it on the avatar but be able to throw it would this at all be possible

[tough snow]

I know there's some props that do that, unsure how they actually accomplish that but there is this? https://github.com/VRLabs/Rigidbody-Throw

It's Not Great for performance though

[sly lodge]

looking at it's stats, you could fit in a medium sized avatar, and you would still have room for other stuffs too

[surreal dome]

how do i use Easy Quest Switch?

[night valve]

i try to set up this lava lamp textuire for my avis tail but it looks 2d or looks like a greenscreen effect, does anyone know why? (when the tail moves, the bubbles inside dont move with the tail but rather like its i a greenscreen)

[ornate stump]

Do you have an example what it supposed to look like?

[night valve]

no

but just image a greenscreen being moved

the bubbles dont look like theyre inside of the tail but rather greenscreened onto it

[ornate stump]

Because that's usually how material and texture works: it paint the texture on surface.

[tough snow]

Could maybe try something with Parallax Effects?

[night valve]

its a baked shader

not a drag an drop texture

[tough snow]

Oh like, a custom shader? From where?

[night valve]

on github

called lava lamp shader

[ornate stump]

Do you mean computed rather than baked?

[night valve]

i guess?

[ornate stump]

Because bakes supposed to be static, while computed mean everything is calculate and render within the shader.

[night valve]

yes

[tough snow]

Did you follow the instruction PDF they have?
https://github.com/normalizedcrow/LavaLamp/blob/main/Instructions.pdf

[night valve]

i did

but i dont know if it explains how to fix this problem or what to do to prevent this problem from happening

[ornate stump]

It doesn't even showcase what it suppose to look like. So I guess what you had is the correct effect.

[night valve]

there is a public avi that uses this shader its called routa lvmp01 and on there the bubbles of the shader stay inside the avis body rather than move when you move like a greenscreen effect

its like plopping a moving gif onto something but i dont like it that way

[solemn hound]

Hi how i remove parameters of gogoloco on a avi ?

[ornate stump]

You might be missing some of the step in pdf. You would have to try follow it again carefully. And it still didn't work, you better have to contact the author.

[ornate stump]

Inspect parameter file of your avatar and delete parameters start with "Go/"

[solemn hound]

how i inspect it ? lol i'm kinda new

[ornate stump]

Inspecting mean selecting an object and look in the inspector panel. So inspect your avatar to find avatar descriptor, look for expression parameter assignment, click on the slot to highlight its file in the project panel, then inspect the file to see list of parameters.

[solemn hound]

Ok

[solemn hound]

this one ?

[ornate stump]

No.

[ornate stump]

It's playable layers. But you would have to remove gogoloco layer from that as well.

[solemn hound]

ok is done disable now i have to find those you said

[ornate stump]

It's right below what you show in the screenshot.

[solemn hound]

here ?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[ornate stump]

I'm too lazy to confirm you every step. So ask only when you really uncertain.

[solemn hound]

i think is done anyway thankss

[spring sierra]

how do I do this?

I've been at this for a day now and I still can't find out what's wrong, I tried deleting and reimporting the 'lilmaterialutils' thing multiple times. There's even multiple copies it, and because of this one issue, I'm unable to upload my avatar

[copper carbon]

how would i go about making phys bones behind me not clip through my body when moving backwards (like a tail for example)

[somber meadow]

Use limits

[copper carbon]

ive tried limits but the rotation stacks ontop of other rotation so it still ends up clipping but will look stiff

[left wharf]

reinstall liltoon: remove liltoon from vcc, and re-add it (i said "reinstall lilToon". not reimport a single file.)
reflesh Libary folder: close Unity, open project folder from explorer, and delete the folder named "Library"

[copper carbon]

for different animator controllers where should i put things that only change parameters?
cus rn ive just been putting them in FX but i feel like i should use additive or something

[ornate stump]

You can put it any where. The most sensible place would be close to where you use the parameter.

[copper carbon]

then whats the point of the 3 other animator controller assignments in the avatar descriptor?

[ornate stump]

They have different purposes, also for legacy compatibility and how it deals with your mirror reflection avatar clone.

[copper carbon]

wait it can effect mirrors????

i have so many questions
to google i go

[ornate stump]

Somewhat yes.

[ornate stump]

You can just read vrchat documentation.

[spring sierra]

uhhh my vrc thing by the inspector disappeared

along with the one at the top

what do I do

I've tried deleting the folders and reimporting the vrcsdk manually

even restarted the project multiple times

[stoic hound]

I sent my friend my blender file of my wolfman to make it more muscular and he can't seem to get it to open in blender on his computer

Can anyone please help me?

[fervent fog]

what causes this problem with bone roll on eyes? even whenever i set bone roll to 0 degrees, or 180, it's basically the same outcome. Either on defualt, the eyes are in the back of the head, OR the eyes in the look animation are in the back of the head or vice versa etc.
I keep applying transforms on the armature and the model while neither are parented to one another, then reparenting but it still causes this issue for whatever reason. I have tried asking this on here before, but never really got any answers so I thought I'd ask again.

[timber wharf]

wha. just delete eye bones, extrude two new bones perfectly vertical, name them the same. done. 0 rotation should now be look fwd.

[fervent fog]

same problem

ok now its magically good what the fuck

thank you lol

idk why this is so problematic

[fervent fog]

Ok it's actually not fixed still

[junior void]

i had a similar issue once which was due to me scaling the avatar in object mode while the parts were separated (eyes ended up not in the center of the eye bone anymore, hence rotation into one direction was crazy off)

If i were you, I'd grab the eye bones and eyeballs from an untouched orginal and merge it onto your edit

[outer nimbus]

Should I be scaling my avatar? I had to 100x scale it for it to be around 1.7m in height. in base size, the viewpoint gizmo is larger than the whole avatar.

[junior void]

sounds like you may have exported a model from blender to unity and then scalings of gizmos were off

[misty musk]

is unity 2022 supposed to not have the rig options???

[junior void]

if theres an armature, yes

[opal agate]

Lets say I wanted to make a simple toggle animation. To switch between two different materials. How would I make that toggle in the menu do the same but for the quest version of the avatar using different textures that are quest compatible. So when I use the toggle as a pc user, the material change shows up for quest users too. Is that even possible

[ornate stump]

Possible, but quiet tedious. You have to duplicate the fx layer, duplicate the animations, and replace animation in the fx layer for quest.